Join us in this episode as we delve into the intricate saga of Venezuela’s ongoing political transition. As the U.S. intervenes, aiming to assist a country gripped by decades of dictatorial rule, we unpack the audacious operation leading to Maduro’s capture. This daring maneuver, marked by stealth and precision, challenges the established narratives and prompts reflection on America’s geopolitical strategies in the hemisphere. Our discussion reaches beyond borders, touching upon the experiences of Venezuelan expatriates hopeful for change and stability in their homeland.
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We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. And it has to be judicious because that’s what we’re all about. We want peace, liberty and justice for the great people of Venezuela. And that includes many from Venezuela that are now living in the United States and want to go back to their country. It’s their homeland. We can’t take a chance that somebody else takes over Venezuela that doesn’t have the good of the Venezuelan people in mind. We’ve had decades of that. We’re not going to let that happen. We’re there now, and what people don’t understand, but they understand as I say this, we’re there now, but we’re going to stay until such time as the proper transition can take place. So we’re going to stay until such time as we’re going to run it, essentially, until such time as a proper transition can take place.
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I like how he self-edited. He’s like, yeah, we’re just going to run it until the proper transition. And that’s key, I think. And that’s also something that we’re going to be watching for quite… We’re going to be watching to see how that unfolds. Because, look… We’re going to dive into this. And I realize there are some of you out there who are like, whoa, what happened? It’s very Washington crosses, you know, the Potomac on Christmas going after the Hessians. First off, welcome back. Happy New Year. I hope you all had a blessed New Year. A wonderful Christmas. I know I really enjoyed the break. It was necessary. It was a very necessary break and to recharge and kind of refocus and reset. But it is really good to be back with you guys because I was getting particularly antsy. I think when Kane starts noticing that I’m sending things to Slack at like one in the morning. That it’s all right. It’s time to get back. I mean, it’s not like we don’t have anything to talk about. You know what I’m saying? I mean, there has been a huge hemispheric shift that just occurred in the past few days. Now, that’s just… As it pertains to Venezuela. We’re going to be talking about Iran. We’re going to be talking about the Somali pirates. Sorry. The Minnesota chapter of the Somali pirates. Because you know. That’s their chapter up there. We’re going to get into all of that. And of course the Mandani inauguration. But first and foremost. The invasion of Venezuela. And the capturing of Maduro. Now if you are a subscriber to the newsletter. Over at Substack. Chapter and verse. You have that already. And you have all of that. You got the rundown. That’s why it’s incredibly important to sign up for that newsletter, because you get all of that important stuff. But this it was a pretty daring raid, a very daring raid. And. no fatalities on our side. And it culminated with Nicholas Maduro being paraded in front of the press and sweatpants, which I, that’s one of my worst nightmares. Just, I can’t even imagine going out in public and sweat. I just, I don’t know. It’s a thing. I just don’t, I’m not a sweatpants kind of wearing person. So the, uh, uh, whole thing the way that it unraveled and the fact that it was lightning fast and surgically it’s surgical precision no fatalities the way that it went down plucking him out of his fortress now full disclosure he did ask for it did he not cane maduro did ask for it back in august He made a big, well, he was boasting, he was running his mouth. This is what bad guys do and it never works out for them. He was boasting about this and saying that, well, come to Miro Flores and come get me. Listen, this is what he said in August. He said coward. This was the meme that they also came out with. Yes, the White House did play a little bit of a biggie there. No lyrics censored, which is why we immediately had to get out of it. Because the White House can post it. But I don’t think Chairman Brendan Carr is going to like that too much. So this… He did call – don’t call down the thunder if you don’t want the thunder. I’m just saying. Now, I know that everybody – and I’m going to get to everything because everybody has been kind of reveling in the way that this was carried out. There are some other implications to consider. And also, everything can still go sideways. I’m not here to rain on your parade, but I am here to bring perspective. I always believe in spiking the football. I also think that this is one of the ballsiest moves that we’ve seen in – A long time. Now, I’ll say, too, going after bin Laden, that was a pretty big deal. I didn’t oppose that. And that was under a Democrat president. I mean, I didn’t oppose that to the point where in downtown St. Louis, where I lived at the time, I ran up and down the street playing Team America. Blink. Yeah. At like 11 o’clock at night, I’m sure my neighbors, they were all up anyway. I’m sure they loved it. But there’s the way that it was conducted. And I one of the reasons that Maduro was able to run his mouth like that is because nobody there hasn’t been a leader that has held him to account. This has been going on since before Maduro, though. This is what people need to realize. He was not, first of all, he was not the duly elected president. He was not the legitimate president. He lost the election, even with all of the fraud and the oppression and the suppression and everything else. He didn’t win an election. He just refused to hand over power. He’s a dictator. So he was never the elected president. He refused to hand over control. But All of this, you know, this Operation Absolute Resolve, what had been going on in Venezuela, and we’re going to dive into the energy portion of this coming up. It’s really heartbreaking. We have a lot of friends. I don’t know why, but we do. We have a lot. Not like we, you know, portioned everyone out. But when we were talking to our friends, I realized there were a significant number of our in-person real world acquaintances who are either from Venezuela or first generation Americans from Venezuelan parents. And they are just ecstatic over this. They were overjoyed is not even a word that I think properly contains how they felt. One of our friends is an Olympic shooter who had to flee Venezuela after her shooting coach was telling her, you’re not even going to be able to compete much longer because they were disarming everyone. I mean, even competitive shooters, which is a nightmare. This is a country that has probably… some of the greatest resources on planet Earth. They sit, Venezuela sits, on the world’s largest oil reserves. The Orinoco Belt. It’s a heavier, kind of sludgier, specialized crude. It’s a little bit harder to extract. But their reserves that they sit on is greater than all of OPEC combined. the gold, the copper. You can see why everyone wants to be friends with Venezuela. And with this administration, and this is what I think Republicans and Trump himself need to be very careful about messaging forward. Remember, you are talking to multiple generations of people who either served in Iraq, served in Afghanistan, had parents that served in Iraq or Afghanistan or family members or who grew up With the looming story every day of Iraq and Afghanistan, mission creep, etc. Now, I’m not comparing the two. But there has always been a good reason why conservatives and libertarians notice I’m not saying Republicans, but conservatives and libertarians have always been very hesitant with anything that even so much as looks like it’s nation building and for good reason. Now, everything that I’m hearing from POTUS, that’s not what this is. It is an individual who was hanging on to control that he did not win. and killing people who opposed him. An individual whose equally murderous predecessor nationalized the oil industry in Venezuela, which I will have you remember includes billions upon billions upon hundreds of billions of dollars of American infrastructure because the United States and Venezuela had partnered together. on energy. And then when Hugo Chavez nationalized oil and gas in Venezuela, they confiscated that. There were only a few companies that actually took a minuscule buyout. I mean, ultimately, they lost billions of dollars. And why I say it’s heartbreaking is because the people of Venezuela, there is no excuse for any of them to live at the poverty level or anywhere close. I mean, for crying out loud, you’re a coastal nation. You have beautiful beachfront. You’re in the southern part of the Caribbean, for crying out loud. I mean, Enya wrote a song about you, essentially. I mean, come on. I mean, beautiful, gorgeous country. Rich history. Very friendly, lovable people. untold natural resources. There is zero reason for anyone in their country to be living even near the poverty level. But this is what tyranny brings you. That’s a reason why they haven’t been able to actually expand extraction in the Oronoco Belt. It’s one of the reasons why they haven’t been able to expand extraction as it pertains to gold and copper because of the politics, because of the negotiations, because of the corruption. And so when you look at the United States and its close proximity to Venezuela, I can’t remember who said it the day that it happened. And I was trying to remember. But someone had said that, oh, you don’t want to have the nicest house in the bad neighborhood. Now, that makes sense. I mean, it’s not a very long flight from Miami to Caracas. It’s not a very long flight at all. There’s a reason why China wanted to get a toehold there, a reason why Russia wanted to get a toehold there. We’re going to talk more about that. All of this, though, does make Joe Biden slam on Maduro back in 2020. Just look all the more ridiculous. Remember this? I mean, Biden was saying Biden didn’t do a single thing. He didn’t do a single thing. Nothing. I mean, they went from opposing Maduro. And like Raskin, Jamie Raskin said his assault on the electoral process and free speech. They try to call him right wing. Did you know that? Democrats have been trying to brand this for forever. Joe Biden saying Trump talks tough on Venezuela, but admires thugs and dictators like Nicolas Maduro. As president, I will stand with the Venezuelan people for democracy. Joe Biden stood with the Venezuelan people just about as well as he stood with the Iranian people during the Green Revolution. Just about, which meant not at all, really. Remember, this is flashback Chuck Schumer, cut 16, going after Trump. Listen to this.
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He brags about all these things he wants to do or is doing, but his actions belie his words. Maybe the best metaphor was his claim to bring democracy to Venezuela. There was a big policy there. It flopped. If the policy was working, Juan Guaido wouldn’t be in the balcony here. He’d be in Venezuela. He’d be sitting in the president’s palace or at least waging a fight to win. He’s here. And the president brags about his Venezuela policy? Give us a break. He hasn’t brought an end to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the president began.
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And now it’s not. As I said, I think that POTUS needs to be very careful, as well as other Republicans, in terms of how they message on this. This isn’t actually about a regime change, because the regime that’s in place was not one that was duly elected by the people. Remember, he didn’t win. He held control of power. He wouldn’t relinquish it. So it’s not really a regime change. You could say that it is helping a neighbor in the restoration of their liberty, which without sounding too much like hell divers, you know, democracy restored without sounding too much like hell divers. It very much is helping your neighbors so that because it benefits the United States to have healthy neighbors. Now, who’s going to run Venezuela? We don’t want another stooge. That’s the other issue. When you took out Chavez, when Chavez passed away, you have Maduro. You’re going to have a ton of little Maduro’s and Chavez is waiting to take their spot. You don’t want to essentially restore something, you know, status quo or worse. China is also big mad. Now, all of this happened while a Chinese delegation, CCP delegation, was in Venezuela. Remember, Venezuela is part of the Belt and Road Initiative with China. They were there in the country. We’re going to tell you what China had to say. Democrat reactions. And why is this case being decided in the Southern District of New York? which is where Maduro is being held. As we move, folks, I’ll bring you the program. It’s Burn a Gun. Burn a Gun is a great, it’s a way to diversify what you carry because, look, you’re not always able to carry everywhere you go. Now, everywhere I can go, I always carry, but there are some places where, in fact, there are a couple of places, you know, if you go into, you know, if you’re at schools, obviously, because it’s been a federal law for over 30 years now, Private property, municipal restrictions, you might be barred from carrying. But you still want to be able to protect yourself. And it’s always like the most highest crime places that always pass these ridiculous laws. So what are you going to do to protect yourself if you cannot carry, if you’re denied your Second Amendment right? Well, maybe you should check out a Burna gun. It’s the Burna CL. This is the one I would recommend to you. It’s a compact launcher. It’s roughly comparable to the size of your iPhone. I’m not going to say it’s the size of the iPhone, but it’s very close to being the size of the iPhone. It shoots chemical-irrigant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. Stun guns have like maybe one or two rounds. This has a 15-shot capacity with its cartridge. And you can choose different rounds. You’ve got different accessories. But it makes it to where you’re still able to protect yourself. And here’s the big thing. There’s no permits, no background checks. It does not care about gun-free zone signs. There’s no waiting period. You literally order it online. It shows up on your front porch. Visit Burna.com and get your Burna CL, which stands for Compact Launcher, today. B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Ready when you are.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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So our House majority now just shrank by one. House GOP Rep. Doug LaMalfa passed away age 65. Representative LaMalfa was out of California. It was announced just a little earlier today that he passed away age 65. He represented the 1st Congressional District, part of North California, was chair of the Congressional Western Caucus. So now that brings the majority down to 218 to 213. Ooh, man, it’s getting closer and closer. But also, thoughts and prayers with his family. That’s a sad thing. A man who broke windows at J.D. Vance’s Ohio home was detained and is a trainee. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. I mean, I know, no one’s surprised. I got a lot of headlines here. Corporation for Public Broadcasting voted itself out of existence. It’s done. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is now finitoed. Slowing auto sales are stoking concerns over near-record car accidents. prices cars are so ridiculously expensive right now it is asinine uh but on now high prices are going to put those sales in a big decline middle class consumers have been shying away from new vehicle purchases also a rare move to override trump’s veto the house is going to vote thursday to override a veto of two gop-backed bills one of them had to do with water infrastructure in colorado that was in lauren bobert’s district uh that water infrastructure project i should say uh And you also that’s there. They haven’t scheduled or made all of the scheduling plans for that public air for Thursday. But apparently it’s expected for that. It’s a very rare, very rare rebuke of a veto. Bus fares in New York City raced to three dollars. Now, Mandani, this was kicked into effect before he was in office. But he did. He’s already been walking back all of his promises, including the bus fare thing, which makes it relevant. Stick with us. We got a lot more in store. You guys are familiar with Relief Factor. They want me to tell you about this guy named Travis Clark. And he told the folks at Relief Factor that it took him an hour to walk a mile. And he told them that today he can walk four miles now in that same hour. And he even began running again for the first time in a decade. So Relief Factor supports your body’s natural inflammatory response that causes aches and soreness and stiffness and discomfort from exercise, daily activities. It does this by targeting inflammation that can keep you from exercising and enjoying the things that you love. It’s a 100% drug-free formula made with ingredients that include omega-3s and resveratrol, all designed to support relief from everyday exercise-related, etc., discomfort. It helps to maintain healthy joints and muscles, promoting better movement and less pain over time. Try their three-week quick start. It’s only $19.95. That’s less than a dollar a day, less than a cup of coffee. Don’t wait. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF to get started today and take your first step toward feeling better.
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Imagine you’re part of the communist Chinese. delegation that’s there in venezuela you know you came in to meet with a belt and road initiative member country and you’re chilling with maduro who’s hanging out in his palace by the way them jams that he was rocking them some fancy jams by the way uh you’re this you’re the ccp You’re there in Venezuela, you know, chilling, you know, doing whatever commies do together. And then, you know, boom, the thunder comes down from the sky and Majuro and his wife are plucked right out that fortress. I mean, I’m not going to get into the details of the operation. I think everybody knows, you know, I mean, they had a blackout. They had I mean, there were a lot of there was a lot of planning ahead of it. But I got to say, they said that it was delayed because of the weather. Do you remember hearing them talk about that, Cain? It was delayed because of the weather. think so I think that they’re just doing that to make it seem I think that’s something that they’re saying to make it seem like they were being judiciously cautious when in fact I think I personally think it was time precisely when the CCP was going to be there what a ball buster man what a Jimmy Ressler holy cow I mean just to do that while they’re there were they even awakened I don’t even know I and no one knew anything. There were no leaks. So let me say something else. And we’re going to get into this whole argument. We got Senator Rand Paul is going to be joining us later. I have yet to be persuaded that this was illegal. Now, I’m open to being persuaded. I’m not a zealot. You guys know this. I’m not a partisan. I’m completely open to being persuaded. However, this was not a military. This was not a an act of war. The act of war is what Majuro did to his people. The act of war is the asymmetrical warfare that under Majuro and Chavez before him, Venezuela engaged in by powdering the United States with cocaine and fentanyl. This was asymmetrical warfare. So if we’re going to if we’re going to be big kids and we’re going to pull up a chair to the table and actually talk real, let’s that’s that’s the act of war. If you want to really use those words, that’s the act of war. The act of war is allowing a geopolitical foe to get a toehold and the act of war. was confiscating American property and infrastructure to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. So miss me with this absolute feces of… I’m tired of hearing these people say this. Where the hell were you, Seensters, when all this stuff was kicking off? Where the hell were these seamstress screaming nowhere for oil when China was going and cutting deals using our infrastructure? Where the hell were these ballless eunuchs out there screaming about nowhere for oil when you had the nationalization of actual American hardware, of actual American property, of actual American infrastructure? Because the United States, prior to Chavez, had partnered with Venezuela to do this. Where were the cries of active war then? Or all the fentanyl, again, or working with the Sinaloa cartel or Trenaduragua. Where were all of the cries of act them war? Where was all of that then? So anyone who did not voice an objection about that can sit down and S-T-F-U. Done. Got a problem with it? Get out your little iPhone and write an email to kissmyadoublesnakes.com because I’m not interested in hearing it. This is our hemisphere. So everyone learned about the Monroe Doctrine. You guys probably knew it, but you guys know who I’m talking about, right? The short bus folks learned about the Monroe Doctrine today or the past couple of days. Trump’s now calling it the Donrow Doctrine. Let me make it really clear. Of course, oil is a reason for conflict. You’re a moron if you don’t think so. I’m not trying to sound like, you know, old man boomer radio here, but I’m so done with this naivete. Where the hell do these people come from? Were they born in hospitals made of peppermint and candy cane? We walk on gumdrop roads. Where the hell do you people live where you have such a pie-eyed view of this world? This world is full of terrors. OK, to quote Game of Thrones. So, yeah, of course, oil is a part of it. Oil is the lifeblood of everything. Now, I realize that under the previous administration there and Obama, they were trying to kneecap us and make us perpetually dependent upon communist China for their monopoly of rare earths when they wanted to transition us stupidly to all electric everything. Well, who has the monopoly on it? Because we get tied up in red tape and we don’t have like a streamlined extraction process the way oil and gas have been able to develop. China, right? They don’t have… China doesn’t have OSHA. They don’t have environmental protections. They don’t care. But see, we always made fun of Democrats and the greenies because they think that, well, the pollution stays over there. There’s an invisible wall. It doesn’t come over. They don’t get it. So… This idea that it’s not worth having a reaction over is dumb. It’s incredibly dumb because oil and gas are still king. And it’s plentiful and it’s a renewable resource for people who don’t understand geology. It is. Cry harder. It is. Sorry you failed in school or you went to a bad school that they didn’t teach you better than that. But this is not the time now to take it out on people who are observing just minor fact. So this idea that, oh, well, this is just about seizing oil. Well, no, this is about you could be partly reclaiming our infrastructure from Venezuela. But also going back to what I said in the first segment, we don’t want to be the nicest house in the hemisphere. It is in our best interest for all of our neighbors to be healthy. And when you have terror supporting dictators everywhere, who have seized billions of dollars of our assets and are working with the two of our biggest geopolitical foes to destabilize the United States. That’s a problem. So back to the Monroe Doctrine. Yes, it’s our hemisphere. You’re damn right it’s our hemisphere. I need some of these people to grow a set and wake up. This is the world in which you live. You know why it’s our hemisphere? Because we’re the biggest badass in the hemisphere. Do you know why it’s our hemisphere? Because we are the richest, biggest badass in the hemisphere. That is what being the richest, biggest badass gets you. Welcome to Earth. This is how it works. Utopia, for those who failed Latin, literally translates to nowhere. You’re not, there’s no utopia. This is the world in which we live in. So yes, it is our hemisphere. And hell yes, we have the right to determine, hey, our neighbor here, who’s being run by a despot, who’s been taken over by a tyrant, who also took over billions of dollars of our energy and our infrastructure, who’s carrying out asymmetrical warfare against us to destabilize us, who’s working with China, who also has a not really secretive. It was kind of already noticed. A drone trade deal with Iran where they’re assembling them and working with Iran on drone warfare. Yeah, that’s a big problem. It’s a national security concern. You’re damn right it is. You are damn right it is. So this idea that we live in this kitten and sunshine world where, oh, it’s so mean. I just I’m done with it. This is it is a geopolitical game changer and a number of reasons. So China is the biggest importer of Venezuela’s crude. Now, I mentioned earlier the Orinoco Belt, Venezuela’s crude. They have a special it’s like a heavier crude. So it requires a more specialized extraction process. The refinement is a little bit different. It’s a little bit more difficult. But bottom line is that China was the biggest importer of their crude. China needs that crude. If you guys don’t think I think I feel like a lot of people also don’t realize how important oil is and energy, especially looking back at World War Two, World War Two, Japan. Japan got mad at the United States and carried out Pearl Harbor because we started sanctioning Japan because of what they were doing, extracting and going out and claiming resources and getting energy, oil, etc., doing all of this stuff from China. So when we started putting sanctions and penalties upon them, crushing them, they got desperate and reacted. They had the resources to react. China doesn’t. We’re going to talk to Stephen Yates about that. But China is the biggest importer of that crude. They need it to continue their expansionism. They need it to fuel their imperialistic tendencies. So what this strike did or what this plucking of Maduro did is you went after the trifecta of China, Iran and Russia. Right. Russia is more of a sideline player at this point. They are. Let’s be real. But with Iran and the drone trade that they had. And then, of course, with China now, this is this has changed it, changed it up a lot because China can’t make a move in the Pacific without having that. China also desperately, I think it was in 2018 that Venezuela signed on to be Belt and Road. They signed this agreement to start the process of becoming a Belt and Road participant. Venezuela really, they were really working with China. China really wanted a toehold there. They wanted that proximity, that close proximity to the United States. And Russia would love nothing more than to have access to that. Iran would love nothing more than to have access to that. But this is the crude that is used. It’s for all of their building, all of their construction, their shipmaking. You know how we’re talking about all of this stuff making their fleet out in the Pacific. Okay, well, you have to have that very unique type of sulfuric, sludgy crude that is found in that Orinoco belt in Venezuela. And they were the biggest importers of that. So now, you know, I made mention that they sit on the biggest reserves. That’s going to affect oil prices. The United States is not talking about running this in perpetuity. They’re talking about getting back there what was stolen from them by the dictators of Venezuela. recouping that. In fact, the Trump administration has already been telling oil companies, if you want to recoup, you need to get down there and start helping that infrastructure. The United States so far, and again, I’m open. If Trump comes out and says something different, I’ll criticize it. But so far, they’re not looking to run Venezuela. We don’t need to have a dependent welfare state. And that’s not what they’re looking at doing. They want a healthy neighbor. I want a healthy neighbor. I don’t want to run a country. I just want to get back my stuff, and I want a healthy neighbor. And I want them to be prosperous. I want them to be happy. I want it to be where I got another place I can go and fish and vacation and all. That would be great. That would be amazing. So, yes, all of this is important. It’s not just about drugs. I don’t understand the gun charges. That’s another thing that I thought was real weird, but whatever. All of that aside, this is a major, major national security issue. And in one move, there were three hits, major hits, and it reshaped that hemisphere. I have a piece that I’m going to be coming out with that talks about If you’re interested in the history of the seizure of these the American infrastructure for oil and gas, billions of dollars seizure of assets. There were they tried to take them to court. They went to contractual arbitration, you know, the international courts. I mean, some of them had to settle for a penance. Some of them didn’t get anything back. Ever. I mean, even though there was a tribunal that determined Venezuela breached their state, blah, blah, blah. You guys get it. Obviously, not everybody got everything back. Some didn’t get anything back. And the Trump administration back. Actually, it was even a couple of months ago. Trump had first talked about Venezuela repaying their seized U.S. oil assets. And this was back when they were really this was goes as far back as 2007. And he threatened the blockade to enforce compliance. And he specifically like Exxon Mobil and others, he specifically was referencing all of that multiple times prior. So it is it’s a big deal. And in fact, now this Reuters piece, U.S. is pushing. Let me share this with you. The U.S. is pushing on investors to invest big in Venezuela if they want to recover their debts. Now, this came out on the 4th. Oil executives were told by the White House and State Department that they would have to return to Venezuela quickly and invest significant capital in the country to revive the damaged oil industry if they want a compensation for assets that were seized by Venezuela two decades ago. because they seized everything from international oil companies. They gave everything to the state-run company. So this is something you’re looking at ConocoPhillips. You’re looking at a lot of stuff. I mean, they’ve had Conoco has had billions and billions and billions and billions that they have been trying to recover from the Chavez nationalization, ExxonMobil, others. So I wanted to put that that is a significant thing that not enough people are talking about. So all of the people who are like no war for oil, shut the hell up. Where were you when this happened? Where were you when our assets were seized? And it hurt us. It hurt our ability to produce as much as quickly. 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If you don’t like the United States of America, go back to the countries that we’re from and you’ll see how much you appreciate the United States of America.
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Just saying, Mr. Worldwide. He’s just saying fact, man. I heard no lies, Cain. No lies detected. None. None at all. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Chats at Rumble. Don’t forget, watch it at YouTube as well. But yeah, this has been a very news-heaviest Christmas break of recent memory. So coming up. rules-based international order i think all of this shows that it doesn’t exist we’ll examine also why was this why is majiro in new york why are we in the southern district of new york with us and not i don’t know say in florida man can you imagine this being in miami it almost gave me chills just thinking about that i’d almost feel bad for him i dude i wouldn’t but man i just i would i’d go down there just to watch So we’ll discuss that. Also, the amazing chapter of the Minnesota chapter of the Somali pirates, they opened up leering centers for your kids to leer. To what? To leer. Oh. We’re going to talk about leering. You don’t want to miss. 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Promo code Dana. welcome to the second hour of the program it’s our first show back in the new year and i hope you all had a really fantastic new year we got so much stuff to get into so i’m just going to go right into it um the we got to talk about we’re going to get into the leering center um and also the uh question as to why nicholas maduro is in new york and not say i don’t know florida because i think in kane i’m pretty sure i can speak for everyone Including some of our dear friends who have family in Miami and they’re Venezuelan. They were heartbroken that it wasn’t in Florida. Because I think that they… There would have been maybe some shenanigans. I think they’re justified, personally. I didn’t see nothing. I didn’t hear nothing. What are you talking about? I just see skies and palm trees. That’s all I see down there, Cain. But… The reason why Majuro is in the Southern District of New York, and a lot of people have been talking about, I know, the judge is like a 93-year-old, what was he, like a Clinton appointee? Hold on, let me pull this up. The judge is, he is, oh, yeah, 92. Sorry, I overestimated him by a year. Alvin K. Hellerstein. He’s a Clinton appointee from 1998. He’s a thousand years old. He’s been as he’s also the guy who refused to move Trump’s hush money case from state to federal court. You know, that stupid Alvin Alvin Bragg case. He blocked the Trump administration back in May. Their use of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to also deport Venezuelan gang members who were trend Aragua gang members within SDNY. So just that. Now, there’s a couple of ways to look at this. Southern District of New York, first off, that’s where all of these charges were first implemented. I think this kind of started all the way back in 2020. So, The criminal cases against him were already filed and they were developed in the Southern District of New York. And that is like the premier jurisdiction in the United States. for transnational crimes, right? That’s where most of the transnational crime stuff, narcotics trafficking, terrorism financing, money laundering, particularly if foreign actors are involved, and even more particularly when U.S. financial systems are implicated or affected. And so that is why they were saying that he and these other officials were using U.S. dollar-denominated transactions and correspondent banks in New York. So that’s a big thing. That was one of the channels that they used, correspondent banks that were located actually in New York. So that is what’s giving… The Southern District of New York clear jurisdiction in this case. So once the once you file, you have an indictment. And once that indictment is in existence in a particular federal district, that. then means that the defendant in the case in question is brought to that particular federal district where they’re arraigned. They have their hearings, the trial happens there, et cetera. That is not a political thing that was done. It’s not a political choice. It is how it, that’s the process. So to explain why it was the Southern District of New York, that is the reason why. So it makes sense. You know, I get that. Now, the other thing Here’s a different way to look at it. You could look at it as, oh, well, here you have a judge in the case. You’re not going to be able to say that this is a politically a political prosecution. I mean, this is a judge who clearly did not like Trump and went along with this stupid hush money thing and went along and try was trying to even stop, you know, gang members of Trend Aragua from being sent back to Venezuela. So there is zero way anybody can say that this is a politically motivated anything. So I do think that there is a silver lining in the… of where the case is being prosecuted, that district, if that helps give you perspective on that. This is just simple standard operating procedure as it relates to federal charges, federal courts, federal indictment. And because, again, those banks, those correspondent banks that Maduro and his cronies were using were in New York, that gives them clear jurisdiction. That, coupled with the fact that the initial… uh, indictments and criminal cases were filed and made and built in that district that also gives them particular jurisdiction in this case. So that makes sense. That makes sense when you, when you look at it like that, the layering center though, we’re going to have to get into those layering centers. Can I pause though for a quick minute? Because you guys know this is a, we normally don’t, you know, get really, uh, talk about personal stuff you guys know as we get the layering stuff ready we we we got a new family member we got a new family member and her name is daisy do we get her oh baby girl it’s my baby girl oh she’s terrified she doesn’t she hasn’t said her hair this is our sweet baby daisy look at her there’s a sweet daisy what do you think baby girl she’s like i don’t like this we officially have a studio dog maybe not yet i’m trying to let her look at the television so people can see what is that This is Daisy. Daisy is going on 10 weeks old. She’s currently nine and a half weeks.
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What’s her take on Venezuela?
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She’s our new sweet puppy. She’s the best baby girl. She’s a tomboy, and she’s all drama. We call her Thunder Floof. She’s just all drama. This baby girl is all drama. Look, look, what’s up? She’s clinging to me. You’re all right, baby girl.
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She’s so cute.
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It’s like a Cottonelle commercial. She’s such a good baby girl. I’ve got to use my Daisy voice. She’s a good baby. But Wick is so protective of her. He loves her. They get along so well. They get along so good. She’s just not wanting to look. She just doesn’t care. Daisy, look at everybody. Oh, my goodness.
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Oh, look how cute.
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She’s such a good girl. He’s such a good girl. You are. Oh, my goodness. Can we just do puppies for the rest of the show?
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Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
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I wouldn’t be against it. This is Daisy. We love her. She’s so precious. We just love her to bits. And she’s such the best baby. But I wanted to introduce everybody to her because you guys know our other dogs. And you kind of met Wick. Wick’s a little bit of a wild one. Right. And he’s huge, so he can’t really come back here. He’s all bull in a china shop. But sweet baby Daisy, she’s a very good girl. You a good girl? Yeah, she’s a very good girl. But that’s Miss Daisy. Daisy Dew. Got her. Yeah, she’s a good girl. Right now she doesn’t shed a whole heck of a lot. Do you? No. Okay, I know we’ve got to do professional lady radio. But I love you. I love you, sweet Daisy. That’s Miss Daisy. Little Miss Daisy do. So we got her… We kind of had her… We needed to get a female golden retriever because Wick is crazy. He’s half Belgian Malinois and half Rhodesian Ridgeback. He’s a rescue pup. So he’s a little bit… And so far, she has already been amazing at chilling him out. And he’s he’s unk. You know, he protects her. He kind of like helps keep her in line. And she kind of teaches him to be a little bit less nervous and a little more fearless. So it’s been it’s been great for both of them. So that’s Miss Daisy. We’re not going to send her to a leering center. The I think I’m going to start. You know what? We’re clearly in the wrong business. I need to start a leering center. It’s like Zoolander, right? It’s for kids who can’t read so good to learn how to read.
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To leer how to read.
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That was the first thing I thought of. I looked at this and I’m like, wait, where’s the N? It’s the Derek Zoolander Center for kids who can’t read good and want to learn how to do other stuff good too. The Larian Center. So while all of this was happening, all of this fraud was coming to play. Isn’t it just crazy that they got robbed only of all of anything that could ever indict them or be used to prove their guilt, Cain? Let’s play this clip because one of the layering center managers spoke to the media. Can you believe that somebody legit just stole all of the enrollment and employee documentation only? So crazy. Watch this. This is wild.
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Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation, enrollment of the children, and also employee documentation that was gone. There were also… checkbooks that were ripped from our, check papers that were ripped from our book. This is devastating news and we don’t know why this is targeting our Somali community as one video made by a specific individual made this all happen. We’ve been receiving hateful messages through our voicemails threatening us for the past couple of days. Including one that happened yesterday morning when the break-in, after the break-in. This is frightening and exhausting because this is happening to us Somali communities as Somali Americans. We are supposed to stand with each other and help each other through everything that’s happening.
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That’s why we helped each other to all this taxpayer money. So they get busted for tons of fraud and he’s like, but we’re Somalians and you’re mean. That’s irrelevant. You’re a thug and you stole from people. And you actually… didn’t run any kind of educational facility at all. So this guy, he’s one of the daycare managers. I have so much on this. There was a video that came out showing these guys like running out of a building, their faces covered and leaving because they saw that the reporters were approaching them. So they said that, oh, his business got broken into allegedly. And allegedly, all the student enrollment allegedly was allegedly stolen, Kane. And all the employee documents, anything that would identify anything about anybody there was just taken. That’s typically how robberies were you mean all the things they could have used as proof of them being a legitimate business yes stolen so insane that’s that’s like walking into a kincaid’s burgers and you know stealing every like taking their little signs off the wall that shows their business license and their health inspection and just leaving and not touching anything else that’s just exactly how crime works right that’s the leering center live laugh leer The Larian Center. Nobody believes this guy. I feel like I’m watching an SNL skit. Nobody believes this guy at all whatsoever. Millions, billions, billions of dollars, billions of dollars. And he’s saying that, well, just can you believe it? I mean, there’s these people. I don’t even think his glasses are real. How much you want to bet those are just like glasses that he got on Amazon? I don’t even think his glasses are real. I didn’t believe that.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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So apparently two women at Red Rocks got into a giant fight over a selfie spot. It was at Red Rock Canyon. It turned ugly because a little argument over selfies and who was in the selfie spot first escalated. And then there was an Italian tourist and a Nevada woman and they got into a huge fight. And apparently a park ranger had to show up and one was screaming assault at the other woman. And it was so completely out of control. Yeah.
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How long does it take to take a selfie?
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Dude, I don’t even know. I don’t get what some of these people do. Just stop with your selfies. People have fallen into the Grand Canyon doing this stuff before. I don’t know. Maybe we should encourage it more, but I don’t know. An Arizona Supreme Court was evacuated after a package tested positive for explosives. This is crazy. They also evacuated a nearby Department of Education building. This was in downtown Phoenix. Authorities investigated the package that tested positive for explosives yesterday. It began when they found the package with no return label in the mailroom. And a retired ATF agent in charge said that, you know, it’s standard operating procedure to when you get a suspicious package to test it. And then everybody freaked when it came back like, oh, yeah, there actually is something to it. So it did apparently have legitimate chemical traces on it. It wasn’t like a false positive. So they’re investigating. That’s kind of crazy. They’re investigating that. How did it even get in the mailroom? That’s the other. I mean, I’m sure they’ll find that out. But let’s see. Ooh, a man killed himself at Walt Disney World, according to the sheriff. It was 855 p.m. It was found the day after New Year’s and it was at the Walt Disney, a Walt Disney World property. And there apparently it was right around the Disney Springs near some warehouses. And it’s just sad. They’re still investigating. What is it like the third time? In the past six or seven months that somebody’s done that at a Disney World, it’s like that Japanese forest. Everybody just goes there and off themselves. It’s crazy. Let’s see. Ooh, the first country in the world ended its postal service after 401 years following a 90% decline in letters. And that, of course, is Denmark. They had all 1,500 mailboxes across the country. It said apparently they sold them. And that’s it. The last letter ever delivered was handed over by a veteran postal worker. That was just a couple of days ago when their dispatch, they ended their four-century-long service because apparently nobody sends it. Everything’s digital. Everything’s electronic. That’s kind of the way it is. That’s the way it’s going here. But instead, we just dump money into it over and over and over again, which is… Doesn’t make any sense, but OK, that’s just what we do. We’ll just continue funding it. But they that’s that’s I figured I think that’ll happen like within the next 20 years here. And as we said earlier, a corporation for public broadcasting is officially dissolved. It is no more. That’s they were the ones who funded PBS and NPR and all of that stuff. And so now they’re officially dissolved. Coming up, we’re going to be talking with our friend Stephen Yates, because what we’re seeing play out. This is a huge, huge deal in this hemisphere and a major national security move. And China is livid. We’re going to discuss coming up. Stick with us.
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I mean, we had just seen Chinese officials arrive in Venezuela for talks with Nicolas Majuro. And then, boom, right after, all of a sudden, Majuro and his wife aren’t there anymore. What are these Chinese officials there to do? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. You can listen coast to coast. Don’t forget to stream us, YouTube, Channel 347, DirecTV. We were talking a little bit about the association between China and Venezuela. And I maintain, and we’re going to talk to our good friend Stephen Yates about this in a second, I maintain that they did not have a weather delay. I think that they purposefully timed it. for these chinese officials to be there and then they swooped in and it was just a giant middle finger in the face of xi jinping and i really guys i got to tell you i really felt warm fuzzies in my heart i really did i felt Warm fuzzies and a joy in my heart. I could have floated up to the ceiling like a balloon. So was the joy. Joining us now, our very good friend Stephen Yates, his first time with us in this new year, Senior Research Fellow at the Heritage Institute. At Steve Yates on X. So my good friend, I hope you had a blessed Christmas and a wonderful new year. Although I couldn’t imagine a better gift. to you than imagining the faces of these communist Chinese officials as they realize the guy that they were there to negotiate with is now in New York.
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Yeah, well, nothing says, you know, thank you more than, hey, I’m here, I’m your enduring partner. Whoop, where’d you go? And but, you know, the Chinese Communist Party aren’t really respecters of persons. I’m sure they’re much more concerned about where’s that oil that we wanted to be able to depend upon so that we are not not dependent on the the straits near the Malacca Straits near Singapore as a choke point in a time of crisis. So they’ve been looking to diversify their supply. They have used the financial instruments that are otherwise known as money laundering in Venezuela. uh to help avoid sanctions help others avoid sanctions so there’s a lot of little things that are tied up in this briar patch and uh you know i don’t know whether it was accidental on purpose but you just take the outcome yep they were right there with the front row seat And so they got to see that, you know, you screw around with America long enough, you kill some of our people, you steal some of our resources, you play with the bad guys, and sooner or later, you just might have that sweet smell of New York air in a courtroom.
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Exactly. And their statement that they released and said they, quote, strongly condemn the U.S.’ ‘s blatant use of force against a sovereign state and action against its president. That’s their foreign ministry. For those unaware, that’s what the spokesperson said late Saturday. Such hegemonic acts of the U.S. seriously. to violate international law and Venezuela’s sovereignty. I’m not even going to read the rest of it because, Steve, I mean, violating their sovereignty is kind of hard to do when the dictator who lost an election and refuses to relinquish power. I would imagine that that’s a pretty big violation of sovereignty.
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Yeah, well, I mean, the Tibetans, the Uyghurs, the Mongols, the Manchus, some of the Hong Kongers, the residents of Macau, all of them might be wondering where all this virtue was at the time that they wanted to appeal to it. And the so-called international community, of course, is where it always is, chit-chatting with itself at a very important meeting and doing jack squat to help anything meaningful on the ground. So, you know, the Chinese don’t really care about international law. They’re not really interested in precedent or anyone else’s opinion. They’re going to do what they want to do unless they are forced to. to do otherwise. And that’s the way of East Asia right now, as they look at Chinese expansionism that isn’t exactly bowing to Japanese sovereignty or Philippine sovereignty. And so I don’t know. I don’t know whether that statement makes me want to bend over in half and choke on the irony or just fall on the floor laughing about how ridiculous it is.
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Well, aren’t they trying to you know, they’re talking about the, you know, the acts of the U.S. and their expansionism. That’s what they’re trying to do, though, in the Pacific. So we were talking earlier about the oil and energy specifically, and China is the number one importer of Venezuela’s particular type of heavy crude coming up there from the Orinoco Belt. They’re they’re the big importer. I know that they get oil elsewhere. But what now that the U.S. is is is involved and reclaiming the infrastructure that Chavez stole and that Maduro continued with his thievery, which, by the way, the Chinese were exploiting stolen American infrastructure in order to expand in the Pacific and expand in Venezuela. How much does this sideline them? And I think that that’s what everybody’s kind of wondering. Does this seriously thwart any imperialistic plans that they had? Like maybe if they were thinking about going after Taiwan this year, how much does this set them back?
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Well, it should set them back. Again, we can’t assume that they have any rationality about these things or whether an angry letter from somebody is going to change their mind. But if they look rationally at this, there are a lot of things at play. Venezuela is closer to the United States than people realize. It’s only 400 miles from Puerto Rico, which is a territory of the United States. It’s only… the distance of say Denver to DC to go from Caracas to Miami. And so whether they are pinning down resources that we might want or need in a time of crisis or whether they’re looking to avail themselves of it, it certainly factors into that. But a lot of their weapons systems and technology including some radars that were supposed to pick up stealth activity, obviously had a little malfunctions that Chinese quality control they’re famous for might give some of the Chinese recent empire pause about what did I buy and is it worth the package it came in. And so, I mean, the oil in Venezuela mattered enough to China that they were contemplating digging a second canal across the isthmus of Central America so that they wouldn’t be just dependent on Panama to get that crude to them in a time of crisis.
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Wow, that’s significant. And of course, our friend Stevie H joins us at Stevie H’s on X. The yeah, that radar detection system didn’t work. I mean, not at all like it didn’t fail a little bit. It just literally didn’t work at all.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, so Iran had a little fun with that. And so these people that thought that BRICS is a thing, and it is sort of a jawboning annoyance thing, but if they thought that this is who’s going to stand up for you, basically there’s a perfect record of if something happens to you, the others do the old matador move and say ole and you’re on your own. And so Russia and China, they show support for the inauguration of the interim leader after Maduro took his involuntary trip, but they’re not really in position to do a whole heck of a lot. So the ability to thwart the international financial system imposing discipline, the golden armada that’s there that will stop a ghost fleet from being able to get that oil anywhere, even if we never set foot on Venezuelan land again. It’s still locked in there. And last I checked, you can’t drink it and use it yourself. And so I think the demonstration of this has already been quite significant. And it matters a lot because Colombia is next door. Mexico has some strategic choices to make. And there’s the always elusive Cuba situation. I think that’s the right pronunciation. It has to think about what next for them because they had some of their security people who proved completely incapable of stopping America.
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Yeah, that’s a that’s an incredibly good point with that. The also with Iran, because Iran was I didn’t realize. I mean, I knew that they had an agreement and they assembled drones for Iran, but they had a it wasn’t exactly secretive. They had a pretty big drone trade program with Iran. So here you had Russia who was working with Venezuela, China working with Venezuela. Iran working with Venezuela. It seemed like Venezuela was the linchpin of this malicious trifecta, these foreign actors that really wanted to destabilize the United States. And I still realize this is in the early days. And I’m sure there are mistakes that can’t be made. I’ve yet to see one or been persuaded that one has been made yet. But. In your view, how much does this reshape the hemisphere now after this was done? Because it was one quick move, but it hit three different sovereign nations.
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It did. And I think that when a lot of people think of the Monroe Doctrine, they think it’s sort of America saying we’re going to be the boss of the block and maybe it has some of that going on. And, you know, those with power do get to set the rules from time to time. But really what it was more about was saying that outside powers were not going to carve up this hemisphere against our interests. uh and so that i think is very consistent with what the trump administration’s uh new national security strategy was talking about when stephen miller has gone on tv to try to explain more about this sometimes in pretty ferocious tones with uh the lefty journalists that try to poke holes in this uh but just make it very very clear you know you try to kill our people you try to do illegal things in this hemisphere only hundreds of miles from our shores And we’re not going to keep putting up with this for impunity. Past presidents of both parties have given lip service to this kind of stuff. But this is the first time anyone said, you know what, I’m going to go ahead and put the hammer down. It’s not going to be invade and occupy and run forever. We might not even take the oil, although President Trump keeps talking about that. Who knows? But even if we don’t take any of the oil, this has reset things in a profound way in our hemisphere. And whether people like it or not, I think there are a lot of knee-jerk intellectuals that are sort of professors without classrooms out there saying, oh, no, this is isolationism. You’re pulling back from Europe and Asia. Well, I’m not so worried about Europe, but… When it comes to Asia, do you think that those powerful countries expect we’re going to be worth our weight if we can’t even guard our own sovereign nation and our near abroad? And so this has a powerful demonstration effect. It affects supply chains, but it definitely will affect the range of options we have to bring power to bear in other places if we get our own hemisphere right.
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That’s a great point. That’s a very great point. I like the professors without classrooms because that’s what it seems like with a lot, some of these critics that I feel like everyone thinks that warfare, these individuals, they think that warfare is still, we’re still stuck in the days of redcoats where everyone lines up in a nice orderly fashion and then we just take turns shooting each other. And whoever has the most ammo basically wins. It’s not how it’s done. I mean, it really is a form of asymmetrical warfare. And China was really part of that. And I think that China personally, you can correct me if I’m wrong on this. I think they were the biggest driver of this in Venezuela. I mean, their relationship with the cartels, their push of fentanyl, their push of cocaine. And Venezuela being, you know, the prime driver, a major driver of this. I feel like they were the ones that stood to lose the most and have lost the most now that Maduro is out.
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I think there’s a lot to that. I mean, in fairness, Venezuela was basically a nexus for anyone who was trying to run things that should be regulated or stopped or otherwise illegal. And so whether it was illicit finances, illicit manufacturing supply chains, weapons trades, whether it was Islamist radicals who were trying to pre-position in this hemisphere and embed in the migration waves that came, there were a whole host of bad things. It was essentially a devil’s playground. within arms reach of the United States of America. And there’s just no excuse for letting that just go on with impunity. China, for sure, was hit hard in that. And I know I, of course, don’t shed any tears, but there should be more public discourse about how deep in that kimchi they were, because they try to talk about this rules-based international order and win-win solutions, and it’s the bad United States that’s out there trying to impose its will, but they’re deeply embedded in a lot of illegal, terrible, lethal things. I have to say, Dana, just as a point of personal privilege, I’ve gotten a lot of people coming at me trying to say that they weren’t a part of the fentanyl trade, and I’d like to introduce them to a Tencent dictionary word known as fungibility. That when you are out there pumping the money laundering, when you’re out there pumping the gangs, and when my daughter, who did not have a college education, could tell me more than any of these armchair yahoos could, that there were Venezuelan gangs operating in Colorado, dispensing everything from cocaine to meth to heroin to alcohol. fentanyl laced tablets too she knew they were venezuelan gangs and to hell with these people who want to say this wasn’t a part of it and even if it wasn’t a direct hit on all of them all the bad guys have to be saying well crap if they can do that there who’s to say they’re not coming around the corner here in the next week or month
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Amen to that. And that is the peace through strength. That’s exactly, I mean, that’s what it buys. Steve Yates, our very good friend. I so appreciate your perspective on this. I know we’re going to have a lot to talk about in the weeks to come because this is the ripple effect is still going. I hope you had a blessed Christmas and a happy new year. And we are so grateful that you are so generous with your expertise and you share it with us as often as you do. Thank you so much, my friend. It’s so good to see you. Happy new year.
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It’s his life mission to make bad decisions. It’s time for Florida Man.
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All right. So first up, we’ve got a couple of things here. I don’t even know where to start. So we had a 36-year-old Florida woman who was arrested on child abuse charges because police say that she held a six-year-old boy’s head underwater at a hotel pool in Kissimmee, Florida. And they were called to the authority said they were called to the Gaylord Palms Resort. Witnesses reported that the child was forcibly submerged by the woman because he was bullying her nonverbal autistic son. And Kane’s expression just totally changed. So she got involved. Investigators and surveillance video showed her placing her hands on the kid’s shoulders and putting them underwater for a couple seconds. And it left him upset, et cetera. And then she yelled the boy’s mother and then left the pool area. She was charged with child abuse and released on bond with conditions that include no contact. The first thing is, where were the parents? Number one. And if the parents don’t get involved. I don’t think, sorry, that wasn’t child abuse. That was just her defending her kid. Either you control your kid or someone’s going to whoop your kid’s ass. That’s the way it is. That’s the way it is. So I think that’s ridiculous that they charged her with this personally. Now, I will say, I think the caveat should be, did she try to get the parents’ attention? I mean, you can’t just like, you know, drop, not pay attention to your kids. Like, come on, this is crazy. But she, but apparently, and according to witnesses, um, the nonverbal autistic son of this woman’s had been bullied by this kid. And then she had enough and apparently intervened. So yeah, you know, you buy the ticket, take the ride. I’m just saying a Florida man in red lingerie hit a gun under prosthetic silicone boobs. And yeah, this one I may have to save. He said he was going to a costume party. But then when deputies asked for further details, Matthew Zacharino, 39, then he stopped talking. He stopped talking about that. I have video with us. Sheriff Grady Judd talking about it. We’re going to play that for you tomorrow. Third hour on the way next.
SPEAKER 01 :
Mr. President, so Colombian President Gustavo Petro, you know, a couple weeks ago, he said he’s got to watch his ass. And today he said he’s not concerned about anything happening to him in the aftermath of this operation. So just what your message is about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, he has cocaine mills. He has factories where he makes cocaine. And yeah, I think I stick by my first statement. He’s making cocaine. They’re sending it into the United States. So he does have to watch his ass.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my gosh. That was just too funny. He’s like, yeah, he doesn’t have to watch this. He just was just very, you know, stated the obvious. That was POTUS when he was asked about, you know, what do you think? How do you think Columbia’s leader is going to react to this? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of the third hour. First day back in the new year. The legality of all of this, the… action in venezuela and i know there are a lot of people that there are some that don’t agree in fact one of our guests that we’re going to have on coming up senator rampal who i love senator rampal is a lawmaker i mean he’s a good he’s one of those that i don’t loathe with every fiber of my being some of yeah some of them in there you’re just like i i always appreciate the people who very sharply always They’re smart contrarians. I don’t like contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. That’s so empty and shallow. I don’t think Senator Paul’s ever made a point that, you know, hasn’t been a fair point to make. Doesn’t say that I agree with him all the time, but he’s always been very thoughtful in his approach on it. And you appreciate those people because they you need people to pin down that particular aspect of the discussion. Whether or not it was considered, you know, the legality of it, I don’t know how I have not persuaded that this was illegal. I don’t understand. I don’t even understand how that argument is made. Do you? I don’t get I mean, I’ve tried. I just don’t understand why that is. I just I don’t agree with it. I just don’t.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s inconsistent historically.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, historically – and that’s not to say, well, because we’ve done it before, that means that we can – we keep doing it. That’s justification for it. That’s not what it is. The legality of it, though – and Jonathan Turley had a piece on this where he was talking about the congressional approval required for different operations and how with this particular operation, POTUS did not need congressional approval. By the way, if he would have gotten – if he would – One of the things I really do believe is if he even if he were to have sought congressional approval, there goes the tactical advantage of surprise because they would have leaked this out in a heartbeat. You know that. I don’t care if it’s classified. They would have leaked it. It happens every time. I think that this kind of shows that POTUS learned a little bit of a lesson from his first term because a lot of stuff got leaked his first term to the detriment of his plans. And you cannot have… the scale of operation with the planning and everything that you had with leaks. It just wouldn’t have happened. It would never have happened. Now that’s, and yes, I do think it’s also missing is the illegality of leaking classified information, which, I mean, we’ve seen with a number of people and, you know, a number of Democrats and a number of lawmakers, they’ve leaked so much classified information. I really, I just can’t take seriously people that have you know, their own behaviors that raise questions. I just don’t take the legitimacy of their claims. It’s not, you know, ergo decedo or anything. It’s just, I simply just, I cannot take seriously their, any, I don’t believe they have any veracity. They’re compromised and they’re compromised, which makes me question their logic. So that’s, you know, for insight onto that, into that. But they are, When you look at one of the things he noted is going back to all the way to Noriega. And this was in I was in sixth grade, fifth or sixth grade when this happened. This was in 89. And it was when you had Jim McGovern, who was the then Democrat rep from Massachusetts, who said without authorization from Congress and with the vast majority of Americans posed, he said Trump just or he is representative McGovern from Massachusetts declared Trump launched this unjustified strike, et cetera. But yet. This actually followed the same plan. Actually, it followed what Obama did in going after Bin Laden. It followed what Noriega did in going after Bush. The other thing is, too, Congress knew something like this was building. We had blockade. We had sanctions. There were other penalties. Trump had kind of floated the idea. He had discussed it. That’s one of the reasons why you had that August speech when Maduro was out banning daring Trump to go and get him in Miraflores, go and get me, etc. So Congress could have actually done something to prevent it. Congress did not pass a law or did not pass anything to do such. So if you don’t do anything… You see what I’m saying? Like, why are you complaining? Why are you complaining? Furthermore, this wasn’t against a sovereign nation. It was going after someone who had multiple warrants out for his capture and arrest. Also, it’s a national security issue, which it is. This is we’re talking about asymmetrical warfare. This was from what I have been able to deduce. I am not persuaded that this was an illegal action at all. Now, some say, well, the Vienna Convention and Turley addressed the whole consular relations thing about international agreements. You have to notify an embassy, give notice. Of arrest of a foreign national. I think that’s goofy. Noriega argued that and Turley noted that his arrest violated national law because he had head of state immunity doctrine and the court rejected it because they never recognized Noriega as the legitimate ruler of Panama. It is a fact that Maduro was not the legitimate ruler of Venezuela. He was not elected. He refused to relinquish control. Refusal to relinquish control does not mean that it’s not a substitute for a free and fair election. Stop. And I’m sure that that’s going to be something that’s brought up in Maduro’s prosecution. The United States for the 11th Circuit rejected the immunity claim. Now, there was also the treaty providing the extradition of criminals. That was in May 25th, 1904. Noriega argued that his capture violated that. But then Turley noted the Supreme Court’s decision that. barred that argument in 1992 because the issue is whether he writes he was abducted to the United States with the superseding extradition treaty and the 11th held that he relied on this claim. And yet, no, it’s not. He has not carried the burden. Therefore, his his claim fails. So he had I mean, there wasn’t what was it, five years and outstanding arrest warrant. Not not a duly elected leader. He’s tied. I mean, there’s mounds of evidence tying him to criminal drug cartels. And so I how in the world is this illegal? So I again, if you present to me. an argument that is convincing and factually unassailable. I’m open to being persuaded. I’m not, again, I’m not a partisan and I’m not a zealot. I just don’t see one here. I don’t see one. The only thing that Maduro is going to be able to do in court is to rehash Noriega’s old arguments that all failed under Maduro. multiple judicial reviews. And I think that Maduro’s case is even crazier than Noriega’s case. So I don’t see this as being a violation of any kind of law. In fact, the U.S.-Panama extradition treaty, that’s what Noriega was trying to say, that he was trying to rely upon that. They said that to prevail on an extradition treaty claim, a defendant must demonstrate by reference to the express language of a treaty and or established practice there under that the U.S. affirmatively agreed not to seize foreign nationals from the territory of its treaty partner. He’s not carried this burden and therefore his claim fails. You can’t claim it’s a regime change when you’re not changing a regime. You’re going after a failed leader who did not win an election, who refused to relinquish power, and who was carrying out asymmetrical warfare against the United States. again, if we also want to talk about no war for oil, then why wasn’t that complaint lodged at Majuro or before him, Chavez, when they literally seized American infrastructure, like our American dollars went into that as an energy agreement with Venezuela. And then when Chavez took control, they seized that. They nationalized everything. And they did not They did not at all in any way give money. They did not at all anyway pay off any debt for that. There were people who did not receive compensation. They just had their stuff stolen. And we’re talking to the tune of billions upon billions of dollars. So that’s it. The point that Stephen Yates made last segment when he mentioned the Monroe Doctrine, it is as much as not allowing entities to grow and pose a threat to the United States as it is not allowing Europe or anyone else to slice up the hemisphere. That’s it. And yes, it’s our hemisphere. The United States is the biggest, richest nation. And by the grace of God, we love liberty. Thank heavens. What if we had the ideology of these, you know, third world hell holes? Well, we wouldn’t be the richest, most powerful nation because that ideology does not deliver that kind of result in terms of leadership or in terms of economic or military growth. It just doesn’t. Just doesn’t. So that’s just the way it is. So I I again, I’m not a zealot. I’m not a partisan and I’m completely open to being persuaded. But I don’t see that argument here at all. I just I simply just don’t see it. Now, it’s this was a very surprising. I wanted to read this. This is a part of it. This is a very surprising. I can’t believe this was a piece in The New York Times. The New York Times. I know. Headline Trump was right to oust Maduro. The Times publishes, quote, Maduro’s governance drove millions of Venezuelans out of the country, fueling a migration crisis at America’s southern border. He gave American rivals China, Russia, and Iran a foothold in our backyard. The security of the United States, Latin America, and the world stand to benefit now that Mr. Maduro is out of power. The potential benefits of Maduro’s removal run much deeper, particularly in Venezuela itself. Maduro was an odious and incompetent leader who engaged in human rights violations and badly mismanaged his country’s economy. While he was in office, Venezuela’s gross domestic product contracted by 80%. Poverty rate rose to 90%. Hyperinflation peaked at 130,000%. Maduro’s removal provides the opportunity for a better government economy and future for the Venezuelan people. End quote. One of the things also no one talks about is he they tried to act like, oh, well, we’re going to increase pay for people. We’re going to increase pay for people who work in this particular sector. And when they did, they ended up shuttering over 40 percent of their remaining private or not somewhat private in Venezuela. That’s how they operate. Businesses that were really kind of dragging the rest of the economy along. And that created a greater economic crisis. What they which is insane, considering. All of the resources this nation sits on. I mean, you look at Saudi Arabia and you look at UAE and you look at these oil rich nations where everybody over there is basically rolling in dough. And Venezuela could be the same thing. It would be amazing to have that kind of neighbor. The United States does not want to be singular in everything. It’s power and leadership. We want other like minded neighbors. A rising tide or tide rises, you know, raises all ships. It’s the way it is. We would. I mean, I would love to see healthy neighbors. I would love to be able to, you know, how cool would it be to like be like, oh, yeah, I’m going to go into Venezuela. What? What’s up? And not have to worry about being murdered because of your affiliation, your political affiliation back home or captured or heaven knows what else. I it’s just it’s so sad because it’s so unnecessary. But this is why they don’t again, they don’t even have the more sophisticated infrastructure required to expand extraction and refinement of their heavier, sludgy or crude. It’s one of the reasons why they don’t have a better extraction of gold and copper. I mean, good night. Just the gas and the minerals alone.
SPEAKER 14 :
And now all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, so first up, smart rings are poised to go mainstream after they had like a really big last year. Those are the, what is it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Those are like the… Yeah, your heart rate and different biometrics, I think, are on this ring.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s the one ring to rule them all. I watched a movie about this. Yeah, totally did. I don’t like that. I don’t like that idea. They’re like these weird ceramic… They have a Samsung ring. They have a Aura ring. I don’t know. I just think they’re weird. They said that it took a decade, but the smart rings can monitor sleep activity, heart rate, and just spy on your life. I don’t like that. I don’t need that. No. No. I don’t, ew, who wants that? Stop being tracked. My gosh, we don’t need to be digitally babysat with everything. Good night. We have not evolved as a species to the point where we have to have, or ever at all, where we have to be babysat by little digital devices. That’s what people buy to make themselves feel important. I’m sorry, but I think it’s a vanity. It is an absolute vanity object. That’s not being honest about being a vanity object. Other indulgent vanity objects are at least honest about it. This one, pretend. I don’t buy any of it. I think it’s all superfluous stupidity. That’s exactly what it is. Let’s see. Big crash on I-95 in Florida. It was cabbage. Why do they call it lettuce? That’s cabbage.
SPEAKER 13 :
The whole story is like it’s lettuce. Who does not know food? And it’s cabbage.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s not lettuce. That’s straight up cabbage all over the road. Man, you know what? I really, really want a good like beef marrow stew with that. Oh, we got. Oh, I didn’t even get into the Warhammer toys that were stolen from a Grant County storage unit. Lots of them. Senator Rand Paul next.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to the program. If you’re not listening terrestrially around the country, you’re probably watching us on DirecTV, Channel 347, also at YouTube X and everywhere else. So we’ve been covering not just the early leering centers, but also the unbelievable operation that happened with Venezuela and extracting Nicolas Maduro, who’s now in New York. We were talking about why that was in the Southern District of New York and not someplace like Florida. There is, though, always still room. for opportunity for things to go sideways. And I think that’s now where we have to turn our attention. Everybody gets very, very excited when we have engagements like this, operations like this. And I think maybe it’s because we’ve been without serious, decisive leadership for so long. And maybe that’s why people get very excited about it. However, at the same time, Where is it going to go? Are we going to have like mission creep like we had in Iraq and Afghanistan? What are we going to expect next? Who’s going to be in power? Who’s going to be after Maduro? How involved is the United States going to be? And I think it’s safe to say that you can like that Maduro is out, but also still be concerned. very invested and concerned about what the answers to those questions are. And that brings us to our next guest, Senator Rand Paul. As you know, he’s been on the program many times. He’s one of the few lawmakers we actually like in Washington, D.C. And if you haven’t read his book, Deception, the great COVID cover up, you need to. I’m going to ask him about the J6 stuff here coming up because that’s a whole other can of worms. But Senator, I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. Happy New Year to you. I think these are fair questions to ask. I mean, I understand the arguments about asymmetric warfare and narco terrorism and all of that. But what I get concerned about is what is the commitment look like? I don’t think there should be a commitment. I understand also the arguments about America’s infrastructure as it relates to energy. But what happens next and what concerns you about where it could go?
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, I think there are a couple of different issues here. And the first issue would be, was the Maduro regime evil? And I think without question we can all agree to that. Are socialist regimes in general evil? I think we can agree to that. I wrote a book called The Case Against Socialism, and in there we talked about state-sponsored socialism inevitably leads to state-sponsored violence. And that’s what happened in Venezuela. So nobody is mourning the loss of Maduro. that that is you know really not necessarily an issue at all we can next ask ourselves will it practically work will the people of venezuela choose something better the next time we have to understand that it isn’t the first time they’ve chosen socialism and And although the most recent elections have been fixed, many of the elections since the 1970s were not thought to be fixed and resulted in socialism. They first nationalized the natural gas industry back in 1971. They nationalized the oil companies in 1976. And the progression of socialism got worse and ended up with authoritarianism. But the question is, if there were free and fair elections, would the people of Venezuela choose something better this next time around. There’s practical questions about whether or not this leads to civil war. But there’s yet another question. That’s the question that I’ll be faced with this week, is we’ll have a debate over whether or not it’s constitutional for the president to bomb a nation’s capital and remove another leader of another nation. Is that constitutional to do that without the approval or authorization of Congress? When our founding fathers debated this, when they got together at the Constitutional Convention, when they wrote in the Federalist Papers, there was pretty much universal agreement from Hamilton at one end and Jefferson at the other that they believed that the president shouldn’t have this power. In fact, Madison wrote, that the executive is the branch most prone to war. Therefore, we have, with studied care, vested that power in the legislature. Could they have declared war here? They’ve been planning this invasion for four months. Of course they could have. Now, some will argue, well, then it wouldn’t be a surprise. Well, the armada, the largest armada, has been off the coast of Venezuela for three months. They had to know there was a good possibility it was coming. The president doesn’t have to warn us when he acts or what he does, but once the war is declared, then this would have been a justified action by the president according to our rules. Now, why is that important? Well, there are dozens of people around the world that we could depose. For example, in Brazil, many of us think Bolsonaro has been unfairly imprisoned now for life, basically, by the Silva government. Or would it be okay for Donald Trump to invade the capital of Brazil tomorrow, pluck out the president, and say to Bolsonaro, you were unfairly treated, now you’re president again? Or what about Saudi Arabia? Our intelligence reports concluded that the leader of Saudi Arabia was involved with the murder of an American journalist or someone visiting America, Khashoggi. Would it be okay if he were put under indictment by a grand jury in New York to pluck him out of, you know, bomb Riyadh and then pluck him out of Saudi Arabia? So there really is a question of constitutional authority, whether it resides with Congress or with the president. And we will have that debate. And my conclusion is that, no, the president doesn’t have the power. Am I glad Maduro’s gone? Of course. Am I glad the Venezuelans have a chance to opt for something other than socialism? Of course I’m happy with that. And I hope for the best. But at the same time, I still have to stick by my oath, which is to defend the Constitution.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know we’re talking with Senator Rand Paul. I know, Senator, you said that you were going to vote for the War Powers Act, which I agree with. And I think that that’s you know, that’s completely justifiable. And that’s for those who don’t know, when the president chooses to take up any kind of kinetic action or armed forces or armed force action of that sort. There’s a 48 hour period. Congress has to be notified. And then you have to there’s a limitation on hostilities and there’s a clear limitation as to what the commander in chief can do. Do you think that because there are many out there and I’ve yet to be I I under I believe in the constitutional process, but I also understand that there are extenuating circumstances. Do you think that Venezuela presents one of those extenuating circumstances because of its proximity to the United States, the involvement of China and Iran? How do you view that that issue in this context?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you could argue that we’re doing this because there are narco terrorists and we’re all dying from their drugs, but apparently that would only be true if you kept the president, the former president of Honduras in jail, who’s convicted of importing and laundering, you know, thousands of pounds of drugs in our country i was interviewed recently and they said well what about the fentanyl what about the fentanyl there’s no fentanyl coming there is absolutely no fentanyl made in in venezuela it’s made in mexico 99.9 percent of fentanyl comes from mexico and so the best thing we can do for fentanyl is actually control the border and i compliment the president look i have disagreements with president trump But no president has done a better job of controlling the border faster and really without any extra money. He did it by sheer force of his personality. He shut the border down with Mexico. That’s the best thing we’ve done, and I think deaths will continue to decline. But I think it was a ruse to say this was about drugs. One other part of the indictment, which is bizarre, that most Americans don’t know about, is they’ve also indicted Maduro for possessing machine guns.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don’t get that one. I don’t get that one.
SPEAKER 02 :
It shows you the bizarre nature of this. In 1934, our country passed a gun law that said that Americans are not allowed to own machine guns. And that’s true. If you have a machine gun, not a semi-automatic weapon, but a machine gun in our country, you can be arrested. But what does that have to do with Venezuela and with a leader? Don’t you think almost every leader of every country in the world has security that have machine guns?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I once interviewed the mayor of East St. Louis and he I’ve never seen Uzi’s in person in my life. And it was Carl Officer Jr. And he had two bodyguards on either side of him with Uzi’s. That was the first time I ever saw like a fully automatic in my life.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is this is the roots of this indictment. They say this was not war. It was we were capturing an indicted individual. Now, what’s he indicted for? an American crime of having a machine gun, an American crime of peddling drugs. These are American laws. How do we indict people for American laws who don’t live in America? It’s sort of a bizarre notion, but really it’s a ruse. It’s regime change. They wanted him gone for a lot of reasons that I agree with. He was a despicable leader. He impoverished his people. His people lost 30 pounds inadvertently over the last couple of years because of starvation. I wrote in my book, The Case Against Socialism, of a 16-year-old girl who’s part of a gang, and her territory is a dumpster behind four restaurants where she scavenges for food. I wrote of another young man in Chicago who was in charge of a gang that would hunt pets to eat. Hunt rodents to eat and pigeons to eat that’s what the story of socialism is but everybody’s ignoring this Venezuela went from being a great country, but the decline began in 1970 when they began voting in socialist this should be a debate between socialism and capitalism, but it’s a separate debate on the constitutionality of separate from the debate between socialism and capitalism. But you won’t hear from this from the left and you’re not hearing this from anybody on the right other than myself is we need to try to encourage the Venezuelan people. I say encourage because we don’t get to vote. Encourage them to choose capitalism. Encourage them to make contracts with our oil companies. But we are, I think the administration is going to ruin the goodwill in that country if they continue to insist it’s our oil and we’re in charge and we’re running the place. Imagine that you’re a Venezuelan today holding up an American flag. You love Donald Trump. You love the freedom that you now have. But then you’re being told that he owns your oil, that America owns your oil, and American oil companies are going to run Venezuela like we’re in the Banana Republic in the 19th century? That will embitter the people who are currently optimistic and favorable to America. It’s exactly the wrong thing to do. To say we’re next going into Colombia. You know, there’s rumors now that there’s going to be an embargo and we’re going to surround Cuba and stop all trade with Cuba and starve them until their government changes.
SPEAKER 05 :
They’re already being starved, though, to be fair, by their own government, sadly. What’s that? They’re already being starved by their own government, sadly. Yeah, I agree with you on I think your point that you’re making, too, about the socialism versus capital capitalist argument. I think that’s a great point to make. I’m would you be all right with because I agree. I I think the biggest danger right now is getting over our skis with us, because now everything we’ve got to mitigate everything at this point so that it doesn’t. As you said, you don’t want to burn through the goodwill of people who desperately do want to be free and and. Maybe the companies that lost that had their assets seized by Chavez, I think it was like back in 1972 when that nationalization began, not everybody was compensated, maybe giving their property back to them and allowing them to make deals with Venezuelans. I think that would be I mean, would you be in support of that? I think that would I mean, that seems like that would be fair.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it was Perez. The president was Perez in 1976. Most of the people are dead. I mean, most of the people who ran the oil companies are dead. Most of the people who ran the country are dead. Sure, it would be right. And you can make claims. There are people, you know, when we pull up a shipwreck off the coast of Florida from 1742, you know, sometimes the insurance company says, we already paid for that. We want the gold. So yes, you can have multi-generational, multi-century sort of claims on property. Sure, it would be right. But what’s not right and what will backfire is demanding that the oil companies, that it’s our oil, we’re going to run the place. It will ruin all the goodwill. So all I can say is the people are jumping for joy, great. The people are celebrating this, great. I celebrate with you the demise and the removal. I don’t celebrate the unconstitutional means, but I do celebrate the removal. But we can’t say, oh, my goodness, we’re just coming in. It’s America. Here comes America. And expect that the people are going to love us for that. It’s still unknown what will happen here. We should hope for and we should engage with them towards free elections. But people also have to realize the socialists have won most elections in Venezuela. Since 1970, we’re talking about 55 years of elections where the socialists have won virtually every time. We have to realize that a few years ago, this guy Guado, that everybody said, oh, Guado, he’ll be this great leader. He was a socialist also. So some of the opposition leaders are socialists. Socialism is the scourge here. It is the evil. People like Maduro are just examples of the nature of mankind that when too much power gravitates to anyone, man or a woman, they will abuse it. Right. And so you’ll get another Maduro if you continue with socialism.
SPEAKER 05 :
If we play it too hard, we’ll have another Maduro. I agree with that. I do hope those companies get what they had seized from them back then. That’s the one thing because they did have the government took their property and I’m all for returning their property to them. But I agree with you. You can’t say everything in the Orinoco belt’s ours because I don’t believe that. But we should encourage a partnership. I need to ask you, though, really quickly before we let you go. The J6 findings. This is insane. And I know that you were talking about this. And in fact, I’m going to pull this up. I have it right in front of me. This is a crazy story. The findings on the weaponized watch listing that even I mean, Christine Crowder, this was something these documents that were obtained through the FBI. I was looking at this information. I mean, we’re talking about watch list, watch list that you can’t get off on watch list. There is no judicial review at all whatsoever. Tell us about this, because now we’re still finding out things that we had no idea about. And Jay Sixers are still dealing with the outcome of this.
SPEAKER 02 :
We know it all started when we heard about a program called Quiet Skies. This is a program where the DHS and the TSA developed a watch list and they would follow you, they would pat you down, they would give you private room screenings, all of this, to basically harass you as you tried to travel. Tulsi Gabbard was added on this list. She was a former Congresswoman. She’s now head and the Director of National Intelligence. She was put on this list. But what we found is other ordinary citizens were too. So Christine Crowder was a woman who was a Trump supporter who came to the Ellipse at the White House. She came to hear the speech on January 6th, but she never went to the Capitol. So one of her nosy neighbors, who was also her enemy, gossiped and said, oh, I’ve seen her. I saw her picture. Here’s a picture of her. She was rioting, and here she is in the Capitol. Well, gossip’s not usually how we convict people in our country, but they did. The Biden FBI put her on a list. She was harassed in airports for years. They searched her home. They did surveillance of her home. They basically treated this woman like a criminal for years. But you know what? Within a month of starting their investigation, they had looked at her cell phone. Her cell phone was at the White House but was never at the Capitol, is what she told the investigators. But they kept her on the list even though they knew she wasn’t there. they did voice comparisons they I mean in facial comparisons they knew it wasn’t her and yet they continue to harass this poor woman for years and we only found out about this because her husband was an air marshal and was able to get to the bottom of this and he became a whistleblower on this but look he was one of our most trusted people he was privy to all this private information and meanwhile they were harassing his wife throughout all this and And so this is what the Biden administration did to January 6th. It was weaponized. The committee and what the Democrats did to their fellow congressmen by going after their phone records. And then we discover this thing called Arctic Frost, where the FBI actually went after and Jack Smith went after and investigated members of the Senate and got their cell phone records. These are high crimes, and this is an abuse that needs to be publicized so we never let it happen again.
SPEAKER 05 :
We need to make sure that these watch lists without any judicial review or way for people to get removed from them cannot continue. This is insane. I’d love to have you back. Senator Rand Paul, always a pleasure. I appreciate you holding it down. Thank you so much, Senator. We’ll talk again soon. God bless you. Happy New Year. Thank you.
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SPEAKER 05 :
So, packed show today, so we’re running a little short. Our first day back. Make sure you go subscribe to the newsletter over at Substack, chapter and verse, because I’m going to have a write-up over this. I’ll be on Water’s World tonight in the 7 p.m. Central hour. And in the meantime, back with you behind the mic tomorrow. God bless, and let’s continue in the new year.
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