Hour 1 of Rush to Reason opens with John Rush in a wide-ranging, no-nonsense conversation with Dr. Kelly Victory, challenging decades of conventional wisdom about health, nutrition, and lifestyle. Is the modern food pyramid backwards—and has it helped fuel obesity, chronic disease, and metabolic dysfunction? Dr. Victory explains why processed foods, refined carbohydrates, seed oils, and constant snacking may be at the root of America’s health decline, while earlier generations thrived on real food, daily movement, and better sleep habits. The discussion dives into intermittent fasting, OMAD, portion control, and why hunger—not willpower—is often the biggest obstacle to weight
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Okay, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Leslie Corbley joining us now. Been with us before, so welcome back. How are you, Leslie?
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I’m doing great. How are you?
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Always good. Attorney and author of Progressive Prejudice, Exposing the Devouring Mother. Let’s talk about the Supreme Court. And I mean, I just sometimes have to shake my head at some of the absolute, utter nonsense that honestly, even a decade ago, if you told me we would be having a court case like this in the United States of America, I would have said, yeah, you’re a crazy person.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. I think it’s, again, I’ve mentioned this in other interviews as, you know, I think it really reveals how incoherent the progressive ideologies really are. At their core, it’s interesting because they’re very complex and they often attract really, frankly, very highly intelligent individuals who are quite capable of thinking well, but it’s almost like they’re able to think well in these really complex realms, and in some of the most simplest terms, they just Because I think it brushes up so harshly against reality and truths that are just inherent to being human that they can’t see the forest for the trees, right?
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They’re very, in a lot of cases, very book smart, but very common sense, you know, dumb, or they don’t have any common sense. They lack common sense, maybe is the way to say it, Leslie.
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Exactly. And it really, again, I think requires… when they brush up against a simple truth about human existence that is not in line, it doesn’t align with other aspects or other tenets of their ideology, they overcomplicate reality, right? It’s, oh, how do I fit this into this pre-existing system? And it often looks like, you know, kind of like it does with any ideology when it becomes extreme and denies aspects of reality. And that’s I think what we’re seeing, right, except it’s in a very stark way because it’s so physical, you know, denying something as simple as sex is so physically driven that it looks, I think, more absurd in some ways than maybe other fundamentalist ideological stances that others have taken in the past.
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I’m confused why we even have some Supreme Court justices that are – in a way, you can almost tell sort of buying into this whole idea that you can actually change your gender, which we know you can’t. And when it comes to athletes, male athletes playing in female sports, even though they’ve undergone sex changes, hormones, and so on, the reality is they’re still physically – a man, if you would, at the end of the day, Leslie, no matter what they try to do to take that away, the reality is they’re going to be stronger, faster. And it’s been proven over and over again that these men that, you know, that contribute to or play in female sports, it’s not fair competition at the end of the day, which, you know, i’ve talked about this before i could go on and on about this but you look at the whole feminist movement what the left wanted to do and how they wanted to you know uplift women and make them you know better and stronger and faster and so on which by the way not against any of that because i think women serve a valuable purpose in life in and of itself you guys were created you know you know god created you for a reason it should never be taken away but at the end of the day you’re not a man you you don’t have the same physical capabilities that i do leslie and it’s just a simple fact
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Sure. So it’s fascinating because in some ways I think some of this transition narratives are, well, I think they’re different based on whether you’re transitioning from male to female or female to male. And I think there’s different motivations behind them. And I think part of the motivation behind the male to female is how much we have denigrated masculinity as being inherently toxic over the past 30 plus years.
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Good point. I will not argue on that one. I think you’re 100% correct.
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I really think that that’s pushed a lot of young men to the point where they don’t really know how to embody what masculinity is. Because it’s wrong, Leslie.
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According to the world, being a man is wrong.
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It’s, yes, it’s synonymous with something that’s deviant.
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It’s negative.
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Aggressive and, yeah, like toxic and it harms people and you’re a predator. I mean, you know, all these are really negative connotations. Obviously, men can have those issues, right? I’m not saying that there’s no such thing as toxic masculinity in the sense of disordered masculinity, but there’s obviously the same with disordered femininity. So I think that if you were to… broadly speaking, obviously each individual is different, all cases are unique, but I would say broadly speaking, the propensity for a male to female perspective would be to avoid becoming a predator, which is fascinating, and the female to male perspective for transitioning would be avoiding being prey, which in some ways reveals the differences between men and women, right? It’s almost like it reveals that. It’s saying, I want to invert to avoid… Again, women are escaping… the concept of being harmed, right, of being victimized. And men are saying, I don’t want to be the oppressor. You know, sort of like a lot of the complexes that come out of some of this very extreme race rhetoric we’re hearing where individuals are really maligned for being white. You know, you see people who go, no, I don’t want to be white. My whiteness is bad. You know, it’s a similar concept of wanting to avoid becoming the person who harms people by denouncing something inherent about yourself and your humanity. And I think that that’s really dangerous. I agree. But yeah, I think that’s driving a lot of it.
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And along those lines, I think because in a lot of cases, I didn’t raise my boys this way, but in a lot of cases, boys aren’t raised into how to be a strong man. And by the way, what I mean by a strong man is you’re always looking out and protecting. You’re never going to prey on a woman. You’re actually there to lift her up, to protect her, to embrace her, to make sure that she has everything she needs. You’re supposed to be the provider of
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Well, what’s fascinating is the stories we’re hearing about, when you mention things like the sports stories, they actually reveal what you’re describing, which is actually that when men abdicate that authority, when they abdicate becoming strong, and they instead want to avert that, they actually, in fact, become predatory, right? I mean, when you look at what does that do? The men who are saying we want to become women, in some ways it’s becoming predatory towards the woman because it’s invading their spaces in ways that are highly inappropriate. So actually they’re attempting to avert being predators, but in a direct, inverted way it becomes that.
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Yeah, good point. I never really thought about it in that way.
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Yeah, not in the overt way.
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No, no, no. Inadvertently they’re becoming what they’re running away from.
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Exactly. Yeah. Because you can’t, well, again, that goes back to the whole idea of there being a right way. Like reality is ordered a certain way. And so when you try to avoid that reality, you end up causing harm, whether it’s intentional or not, whether it looks the way you perceive it as the way you assumed it would look or not. Right. I do think that there’s generally speaking, if you were to look at men who act too macho, you know, and, and end up being predatory in their own way, it does look a certain way. It can look very overt and like, oh, I’m going to possess you in a way. You know, that’s not protection, and I agree with that. But I think this pendulum is going too far in the opposite direction. It’s saying, I’m going to avoid being a predator by becoming a victim, but victimhood, embracing victimhood is a form of predation. It’s a different type of predation, right? But it is, because it tells other people that they have to accommodate your victimhood status, irregardless of whether they have an interest that’s opposite of yours. And so it’s a different form of predation. I would argue it’s a more female-coded form of predation. That’s what’s traditionally associated with how women operate in a predatory manner. But it’s not better. And I don’t think that there’s really a way for, again, I don’t think there’s a replacement for healthy masculinity. You know, there’s just not, just like there’s not a healthy replacement in my view for what healthy can mean. Agreed. They’re unique things and they’re necessary.
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We were created to do exactly what you just said. And when you, this is my problem with all of this, is when you start changing the order of what, you know, God himself established, well, then you start having problems. And here we are.
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Yes, it’s very, but again, it’s very much, I think, reality-based. It’s fascinating to me because there’s so many physiological, biological, other systems that are involved in the, that are X-based, frankly. I mean, you know, our nervous system systems regulate differently. Women have menstrual cycles, men do not. You know, there’s thousands and thousands, millennia, really, of biological differences that emerged.
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Right.
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again, biologically, physiologically, that are connected to the ability to birth children or not. And you can kind of paper over that with birth control now, but it’s not the same thing. You know, there’s certain instincts we all have that are just instinctual, right? And that doesn’t mean, again, that requires a rigid, hyper-rigid take on, you know, stereotypical roles you know obviously the male and female roles somewhat change based on environment and the reality is we’re in a technocratic environment that doesn’t remotely resemble the agricultural based environment we historically lived in so i think that there’s plenty no no we’re
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I’m going to jump in, though, even with what you just said, though, even in the day and age we live in today in general. And again, I know there’s exceptions to everything that we’re talking about. But in general, you know, men are conquerors and women are homemakers. Women are you know, they derive their their self-worth out of how well their family unit is. You know, how well are the kids? doing how is school going and so on dad on the other hand i hate to say it while he might care about some of those things in his world it’s how did i conquer today at work what did i accomplish how well am i exceeding at work what kind of money am i making how am i providing for my family is there a roof over their head and so on i think that there’s an actual massive i think you’re right generally speaking but i would say in the younger generations i think that there is a troubling
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trend towards, again, I think there’s, again, no replacement for healthy masculinity. And I think in these generations that have come up in a world where gender to some degree to them very much does feel fluid, and they feel as if and believe as if gender is somewhat interchangeable, right? Men and women are somewhat interchangeable. I think you actually have a lot more vulnerability for women in those systems because there’s no expectation of a man behaving like a man in a certain way, right? And we lose that expectation. I think it actually puts a much larger onus on women than it… I can’t argue that.
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I think you’re right.
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A lot of these arguments, for example, a lot of things that women complain about, which again, I think they have a grain of truth in them. Things like emotional labor, the woman takes on more emotional labor, so on and so forth. I think that actually comes from them not having the structure and the stability that was traditionally provided by… by a male role and if you and i think men are really struggling to define what is a male role in a technocratic society where conquering is no longer uh rewarded the way it was before right female modes of existing or non-masculine maybe is a better way of saying it non-masculine modes of existing are much more rewarded now than they used to be and so you know i think that that creates to some degree a massive identity crisis and men who are growing up in that system going, well, what is it like to embody this? Again, when our modes of living are totally different than the classic conqueror-type dynamic. So I don’t disagree with you. I’m just saying that I think that there’s a crisis of meaning in that regard, and it’s difficult for the men in those generations that grew up with that to understand what it is to to embody that role, because you’re right, it’s not mimicked. It’s not mimicked, it’s not modeled, it’s not something that is easy, I think, for them to observe. And you’re right that a lot of human behavior is observational. If you do not have that model as a child, you have to construct it to some degree as an adult. And we’re struggling with that.
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The whole, you know, we had the movement, you know, Matt Walsh, what’s a woman? Frankly, we need a movement, what’s a man?
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Yes. That’s what I mean. And I’m not saying it’s not inappropriate for a lot of this to go to what’s a woman because there is the vulnerability, particularly in sports and other school settings. I think that’s highly appropriate. But I do think the other question needs to be asked and answered because I think that actually, frankly, solves what is a woman. I think when men step up, women are safe. That’s just the reality. And when they don’t, they’re not. And that’s not comfortable for people to say and hear right now, but it is.
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No, you’re right on. No, I 100% agree with everything you’re saying. That, as again, as should be, when men, males, do what they’re supposed to and they fulfill the role they should have in the first place, order is set.
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Yes, yeah.
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It’s that simple. Leslie, how do folks get a hold of you and find the book?
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Absolutely. If you go to my website, lesliecorbley.com, as far as the book, there’s obviously copies on my website, lesliecorbley.com, or you can go to amazon.com and purchase it there.
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It’s always a joy. I enjoy having you. I always enjoy the conversations that you and I have.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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You bet. Have a great night. We appreciate it. I’ll come back and add a little bit to that in a moment. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Make sure you’re dialed in when it comes to your financial future. Al did a great interview of late. If you want to reach Al directly, go to klzradio.com.
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T.J. Banner here in 2026 with Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. Al, new year, new you. What should people be focused on as they’re getting their fresh look at 2026?
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Well, I think what makes sense is to sort of take a financial inventory of seeing exactly where you are. If you have concerns that you might be spending a little bit too much money, go look at the last three months of your bank statements. especially if you use your debit card for most purchases. You can sort of see where you’re spending your money, and if one of your goals going forward is to spend less, to buy fewer lattes, that sort of thing, you’ll be able to track that better by taking a look at your spending.
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It’s always good to get a fresh start. Do you think some folks kind of avoid that, especially in the new year, just kind of check and take an inventory of what they’re doing and what they’re not doing?
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Well, there’s kind of an emotional component to that. If somebody knows they’re spending too much money, they may not want to look at their bank statement. But in reality, if you want to save more, that involves either earning more or spending less. And I think in addition to taking a look at your spending, look at how much you’re putting into your 401k. How well are you funding your IRA? Are you contributing at the very least to the amount that the company matches? So it’s a good time to sort of take a financial inventory to see where you are. And if you’re getting closer to retirement, you can also do sort of an analysis where you can see if you’re on track.
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And if somebody wants to do that with you, how do they get in touch with you?
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Sure. You can reach me at my office at 303-744-1128. If you’re driving, contact KLZ and they will put you in touch with me.
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And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks for joining us and a happy new year to you, sir.
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Same with you, JJ. Have a great day.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And just going to continue on there for just a couple of minutes here. We’ve got another guest joining us here at 4.30, Kenneth Abramowitz. He’s been with us before. We’re going to talk about some of the things happening in Iran. But I want to continue on with – I had other things in my notes, but – Leslie got me thinking about some things in regards to, you know, where we are with all of this. And I’m going to say absolute utter nonsense when it comes to this whole transgender movement and gender fluidity. And it’s just it’s absolute utter garbage. I have no other word for it. It’s just utter garbage. I get it. It’s been created by, and Leslie is correct, this whole, you know, toxic masculinity and, you know, men can’t be men. Well, yeah, when men aren’t men, then I hate to say it, the order that God created, when men don’t know who they are, no one else does either. I’m going to say that again. Because of the way God created things, and I believe he did, When men aren’t men, no one else knows who they are. So really, my fix or my thought process on how to fix the issues we have right now is men need to be men. And for all of you listening, you know what I mean by that. And I will say that I feel like the majority of the listeners that I have, male and female, you guys understand what a man is. You understand what a man’s role is, what he should and shouldn’t do, what a good father is, and so on. And I don’t think I need to get into great detail of that, although I do think there are younger generations whereby – they haven’t necessarily seen that. They haven’t had a good father figure role model, if you would. They don’t have good mentors around them. Maybe they don’t know what being a good husband really means. In fact, maybe the only husband or father they’ve seen has been somebody that is not a man. Maybe it’s a very weak individual that mom wore the pants in the family and made all of the decisions and so on. And I think there’s a lot of that that goes on in today’s world. Sadly, it goes on in today’s world. Now, I’m not saying that every man needs to be some overbearing jerk that rules with an iron fist and so on. You guys know me. That’s not what I’m saying. Men need to understand when it’s time to be compassionate, when it’s time to be kind, when it’s time to listen. When it’s time to even give in on some things, and that’s what being a real man is, is knowing when to do certain things at what time. When to match, for example, things that are happening inside of your home, personality-wise, I mean, attitude-wise. And that’s a man’s job is to understand what to do in those times. But I have seen over the years far too many men inside the church, outside the church, whereby I’ll be straight up honest, they’re afraid to be a man. I’m not sure they even knew what to do to be a man. And I understand that in some cases, some people naturally have maybe more of that personality where being a man is a pretty easy thing for them to do. Although I would say that I do think that upbringing, and as I’ve told you guys numerous times, I was raised by a man’s man. I’m a man’s man. I’ve raised my boys to be men’s men because that’s how I think it should be. Again, not to rule over anyone, but to come alongside your female counterpart and really be an assistant and aid to them. And that’s how it’s supposed to work. And that’s what real men do. But again, I think Leslie’s right. We have literally become a society through the course of probably the last decade, especially, we’ve got the majority of men especially young men that don’t even know who they are they they think they be they think they can become a woman i mean i mean i’ll be honest almost makes me want to cry my heart goes out to some of these young men whereby they would say something along the lines of you know i think i’d rather just be a woman and i say that because nothing against you gals i love all of you i i really do i do i’ve never once in my entire life ever wanted to be a woman You guys have loads that you bear and burdens and so on that you guys take care of even inside of a family unit that, quite honestly, I don’t want any part of. I don’t want to be that. I’ve never wanted to be that. And frankly, I’m probably not cut from the right cloth to even be one, compassionately speaking, and so on. I’m just not that individual. I’m a man. And I do man things. And sometimes I do stupid things because I’m a man. And I say stupid things at times because, again, I’m a man. It’s not an excuse, but I’m a man. And I think differently about certain things than females do. Those ladies out there that are listening, how you think, it’s not the same as how I think. But at the end, and this is how God designed things, at the end, we can become great partners and add to one another and add value to one another and do things in a way that you wouldn’t be able to do alone, and that’s where two is better than one. But this whole idea that we’ve got young people running around today, men especially, that think they can somehow chop off their unit and be a woman, well, first of all, mutilating yourself isn’t going to change who you are. You know, it’d be no different than, and I’ve used this example in the past. We’ve had guests on that have used this example. You know, we don’t allow people to run around and say, you know, I don’t really like the way my arm functions or the way my hand looks, so I just want to have my arm lobbed off. I’d rather not have it. I’d rather go without. Or I’d rather have a prosthetic instead of my hand that I’ve got right now. There’s not a doctor, one, that I know of, that if you walked in and said, I just don’t like my hand, would you lob it off? They’re not going to do that. They’re going to say, wait a minute, you’ve got a mental problem. We should probably address what’s going on upstairs and what your psyche is before we actually lob off your hand. I mean, we literally, trust me, walk into any urgent care, any ER, any doctor’s office around and tell them you don’t like your hand and you want it cut off. And tell me what the reaction is. First of all, they’re going to be stunned. They’re going to think you’re a looney tune. They’re not going to do it. They’re going to probably get you some psychiatric help. But, hear me out here, but you can walk into a lot of doctor’s offices today and say, you know, I really am not quite sure what gender I am, and I know I was a male at birth, but I’d like to be a female. Now, that conversation is going to go completely different. There’s a lot of places out there, Children’s Hospital here in Denver being one of them, that’ll say, okay, you know, you’re 12 years of age. You don’t want to be a boy anymore. You’d like to be a girl. Okay, we’ll help you with that. Oh, and by the way, we don’t even need to let mom and dad know you’re thinking this way. Folks, are you listening to what I’m saying here? Those of you that are on the left especially, are you listening to what I’m saying? And do you understand how crazy everything I’m saying is? Those of you that are on the left, how can you justify what I just said any way, shape, or form? How could anybody go to the Supreme Court and say this is a good thing to do and we should have men and women’s sports? No offense, you’ve got to have a screw loose to even believe that. Those of you that are on the left that are thinking it’s okay and even probably helping out some of these attorneys that are actually representing some of these transgender athletes going before the Supreme Court, I mean, you’ve got to screw loose. Because if you look at everything the way I just said it, you wouldn’t allow that to happen. But yet we do. We do because of a deep hatred towards God himself. It’s a total Marxist movement. It’s a replacement of God through government, creating chaos and confusion among the masses, by the way. This is very Marxist in and of itself because that’s exactly what Marxism does. Creates confusion. change what the masses think and believe, turn reality into unreality, and then voila, you’ve now conquered a people group and a nation. And that’s exactly the goal of Marxism, folks. Trust me when I’m saying this. I’m not lying. I know sometimes I sound really radical and out there because I blame a lot of the things that we have going on right now on Marxism itself, but trust me, I’m not wrong. I’m not wrong, folks. It is the agenda that’s out there from the Marxist movement that has infiltrated, literally infiltrated, the majority of Democrats that are out there. Not every Democrat’s a Marxist. I get that. I’ve said that before. But unfortunately, a large portion of them are. And even the ones that aren’t are still contributing to a Marxist movement. Michael Bailey, he’s coming up next. Again, he is our estate planner, and he would love to help you. He’s mobile, so he’ll take care of you any way, shape, or form. Give him a call today. Get on his docket now. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, appreciate you joining us, and thank you for allowing me to ramble on there during that last segment and add some things to what I was talking to Leslie about. There are literally, these are times where I literally shake my head and wonder, you know, where are we headed here? But our next guest joining us now, Kenneth Bramowitz. He’s been with us before. Kenneth, welcome. How are you?
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Great to be with you. Thank you.
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It’s always a joy. National security analyst, you’re author of The Multifront War, Defending America from Political Islam, China, Russia, Pandemics, and Racial Strife. Talk to us right now, though, about what’s going on in Iran.
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Well, it’s pretty bad news, but there’s a revolt by We the People, who represent about 85% of the people, against They the Elites. And they, the elites, are shooting as many people as they can. I hear reports of 12,000 people dead, 20,000 people dead. For all I know, there’s 40,000 people dead and could be 100,000 people dead. Because the government is run by what I call an Islamo-Nazi death cult. And so think of it like Hitler on steroids.
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Right.
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If you could put Hitler on steroids.
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Right.
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And they couldn’t care less how many people they kill as long as they stay in power, which gives them the right to steal all the money. So it’s a criminal organization using religion as an excuse to basically steal all the money and kill all the people. And so they need help. They need help from President Trump. They need help from Prime Minister Netanyahu. And, you know, I’m waiting for the cavalry. You know, hello. Where’s the cavalry? Because every day that the cavalry delays, there’s another 10, 20, 30 thousand people dead.
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And we saw today, at least I did in the news, where there are troops headed that way more so than we already have there right now. Question for you, and this is a big question because I’ve thought a lot about this. I don’t know that I have the exact answers. Maybe you do as to what we as a country do and what President Trump does moving forward. In other words, does he do targeted drone strikes upon the regime? I don’t think he really wants to put boots on the ground, but there’s a lot of things that we can do airwise and even from – the Gulf itself, if you would? I mean, at the end of the day, what does he do to help these particular individuals combat the evil that is there? That’s literally the way it is. It’s literally good versus evil. How do we help with that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. Well, I monitor six forms of warfare. One is physical kinetic war, which that’s the last resort. But there’s five other ways to fight a war. You can fight a war with culture or information. That’s basically war of the words. That’s media, social media. You can fight with economics, boycotts, with lawyers, demographics, and cybers. So the point I’m getting to is we have a lot of cyber capabilities to shut down Iran. For example, we could do that. We could have a blockade. We could announce that Iran’s not selling any oil to anybody and basically blockade Iran. And they’re selling 2 million barrels a day, I’m told. And we can stop that in one day if we want to. So… On the legal side, we could announce that we’re holding the equivalent of Nuremberg trials in America, and we’re going to put the whole government and the military leadership on trial and absentia for crimes against humanity. So those would be a variety of techniques. And relative to kinetic war, There’s two forms of kinetic war. I mean, there’s more, but pretend that there’s two. One is you can bluff. In other words, if you don’t do this, I’m going to, you know, fill in the sentence and try to intimidate bad guys. And the second use of military force is to actually blow up bad guys. So first you want to intimidate, and then if you have to, you basically have to go after the leadership. The leadership in the government, the leadership in the military, leadership in the police, leadership or religious leadership, they’re all criminals. And there’s no non-military solution ultimately for this problem. You know, we didn’t end World War II because we worked out a deal with Hitler. The history of death counts is they go down for the count. And so we have to accelerate that. I’m a little disappointed to read that the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier strike group has been ordered to move from the South China Sea to the Middle East, and it takes one week. Now, this was two days ago, so that means it’ll take another five days. Five days, right. So I say to myself, hello, someone couldn’t have ordered them the week before?
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
How could we have no aircraft carrier in the Middle East? Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the question I have for you along those lines is – I agree with what you’re saying. I guess the other question I would have, though, is do you think sometimes we say that so they really don’t know where we are, or do they know where we are anyways?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, now with satellites and Russians and Chinese satellites telling the Iranians whatever they want to know – We should have had more assets in the region. That’s the point I’m getting to. We’re in a war to the finish with Iran for 50 years now, almost 50 years. Iran’s promised to kill everyone in America. By the way, they promised to kill everyone in Israel, and they promised to kill all Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the world. We’re talking about a death count on steroids here, and we’re not prepared to fight a war every single day. Wars don’t take place when you want them. They take place when the bad guys are threatening you. So we should have been better prepared. But anyways, when the assets are in place, President Trump’s going to have to make a big decision. And Prime Minister Netanyahu will have to make a big decision. If they don’t make the right decision, there’ll be a million dead Iranians, and that’ll be on their conscience for the rest of their lives.
SPEAKER 10 :
Question I have for you when it comes to the current administration, everything you just said, and you have more insight into this than I do. How prepared do you think this administration is in regards to the things that you just said? In other words, do you think President Trump really understands everything you just presented?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. Now, bear something in mind. President Trump just publicly said a week or two ago that we have to raise military spending from $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion. Now, some of that is bluster, but he’s right. If you’re going to be the leader of the free world, you have to spend to be the leader in the free world. And if you intimidate your enemies, you don’t have to blow them up. And so, yes, we need another $500 billion over time so we have all the weapons we need, and then we won’t need them. You see what I mean? You have to use reverse psychology. When your enemies think you’re crazy, and you have weapons coming out of your ears, and you want to blow everything up, you get peace. When, conversely, when you say, you know, I want peace, and let’s get along, let’s go along and get along, you’re guaranteed to get war. So, yes, I think President Trump knows what he’s doing. Now he’s got to make one of the biggest decisions in his lifetime.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree. I agree. And I think for those listening, these are not decisions that I think he takes lightly. I think he knows everything that you’re talking about. I think there’s times where he positions himself to where it makes it sound like, hey, I’ve got a really easy decision here and I’m going to make it. And, of course, there’s been a lot of threats coming from the Iranians themselves, which I look at that, and I’ve even seen some of the things online where, you know, there’s folks out there that are, you know, promoting and backing the Iranians. And, Kenneth, I think given what he’s already done and what type of attacks we’ve already done in Iran – And I know there’s people worried about, you know, what’s going to happen around the world if something with Iran happens. Personally, Kenneth, I’m not worried about that. I think they’ve got a lot on their plate. I don’t think their bite is near as bad as their bark. At the end of the day, I think they can talk a lot and spew a lot of words out, but I don’t think they can back it up.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yes, they’re a paper tiger. But, you know, you never know. You never know till you know. We do know that in the last couple of days they publicly said they’re going to kill Trump. Now, countries don’t publicly announce that they’re going to kill leaders of other countries. And so you can see how difficult this decision is. I mean, pretend you, me, any of us are president and we’re just about to order the military to blow up a whole lot of targets and we get a call. from an Iranian ambassador to something or other, and he says, oh, Mr. President, the Supreme Leader told me to call you and tell you that we know where your children live, where your grandchildren live, where your aunts and uncles live, and if you blow us up, as we’ve seen in the newspaper, we’re going to kill everybody. Have a nice day. You know, I don’t want a phone call like that. You know, what do you do when you get a phone call like that?
SPEAKER 10 :
True.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you can see how… how challenging it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, absolutely. And I think this is where those of us, you know, Americans in general need to be thinking more about that and more about what you just said. No American, no leader would want those same phone calls. And yet we’ve got a president who is likely to receive something along those lines. And again, making this job that he’s got very difficult. But I am confident in this. And maybe I’m Maybe I’m too confident, Kenneth, but I do think Donald Trump is an individual whereby he doesn’t scare easy. I think he’s got a good handle on things that are going on. I think that we as a country and the armed forces that we have now and even look at the people that are in power surrounding him versus what we had under the last administration, it’s not the same military, not the same military leaders that we had even a year ago.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure. We’re in the best position that we could be in. Nothing’s perfect, but we’re as close to great as it gets. Yes. But now we’re being…
SPEAKER 10 :
pressured and tested tested yes very much so yes yeah no no i thank you you took the words out of my mouth we’re definitely being tested now although you would think with what we just did in venezuela the fact that cuba is on the brink of failure i mean the reality you would think these countries would look at that and say gosh you know this is a sleeping giant that we have now finally awakened but i’m not i’m not confident they have enough brains to understand that kenneth
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, also bear something in mind. I mean, Chinese fingerprints are all over the place. The Chinese are telling the Russians to fight in Ukraine till all the Ukraine people are dead. They’re telling the Ayatollah to fight in Iran till all the Iranians are dead. And they had told Maduro to fight in Venezuela till everyone in Venezuela was dead. So you have the Chinese fingerprints are all over the place.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, you are, you know what, very well said. I cannot, I can’t argue with you at all. They are, this really is becoming more of a war between us and China than it is anybody else. It’s, in China’s case, it’s a proxy war that they’re fighting and funding and so on. Although, Kenneth, I will tell you, and I talk about this a lot, China’s not in as good a shape as they lead off to be. or they lead to be. In other words, they want everybody else to think that they’re really in great shape, economically speaking, militarily speaking, and so on. They rattle that saber pretty well, but they’re not near the mighty power they think they are.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure, and they haven’t been tested.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 13 :
At least our soldiers have been tested. Israeli soldiers have been tested. Chinese soldiers haven’t been tested. Good point. But bear in mind, a lot of warfare is bluster and threatening. I’m going to do this.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s very true.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s a big game of poker, and we’re just seeing it work out in front of our eyes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Kenneth Abramowitz, how do folks find your book, The Multi-Front War?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, two ways. Amazon, Barnes & Noble have it, and other Internet sites like that, and also my website, SaveTheWest.com. People can go to it, sign up. I write an article every two weeks. It’s complimentary. They should take advantage of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, they should.
SPEAKER 13 :
But on my website, there’s a link into Amazon to buy the book also.
SPEAKER 10 :
Kenneth, it’s always a joy having you. I appreciate it very much. As I said last time, you’re welcome any time. We’ll have you back again.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, great. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 10 :
You bet, Kenneth. I appreciate it very much. And, again, his last name, Abramowitz. It’s A-B-R-A-M-O-W-I-T-Z. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning coming up next. And, again, folks, if you’ve got any issues at all with your heat, your furnace, don’t forget, right now there is some inventory left of the lower efficiency furnaces that do not have the same costs and stipulations on that started January 1 of this year. If that’s something you’re interested in, call Cub Creek today. Find them at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening. And I guess I’m going to back up here and go to… Switching gears because we talked about the whole transgender end of things, Supreme Court and all of that, and then Kenneth was just on with us. I think what I’m going to do is jump into – let me do this. I had several different things I was going to talk about that I haven’t had a chance to get to, may not get a chance to get to, which is fine. Scott Besant, who I talk about on a – on a routine basis, who I like. And for those of you listening, Scott’s a gay man. He doesn’t hide from that at all. I don’t care one way or the other whether he is or isn’t. I just simply like the fact that he’s running the Treasury because I think he does a great job. And there’s an article out today. It’s an opinion piece in Fox News, but it’s talking about how, you know, Scott Besant, essentially how to stop fraud in Minnesota and across the country. And he really gets into depth, this particular piece gets into depth, talking about what can be done to basically stop this fraud. And essentially, more audits figure out exactly what’s going on with these particular individuals. Where is this money gone? Is this money going overseas? Is it funding terror organizations? And I think they need to do an all-out, which they are, all-out investigation as to where did the money go? And frankly, that’s how you stop it from happening again. If people know there’s accountability to where, you know, to when they receive money in these particular, you know, non-governmental organizations, NGOs and other organizations, by the way, not all of them are NGOs, but a lot of them were. Lots of memes, by the way, running around today talking about how, you know, I had one the other day that I sent somebody. Let me see. I think I sent this one to Dan. Hang on. Let me see if I can find this. I sent this to Dan Muir a couple of days ago. This particular meme, it’s basically like Indiana Jones. He’s got a whiskey. He’s holding it up like, you know, there’s a toast. And basically it says, may your 2026 be as profitable as a Somalian daycare. And I sent that to Dan because he’s up there. Now, we laugh at that and it’s sort of tongue in cheek, but it’s not far from the truth is the problem. There’s a lot of folk that have gotten extremely rich off of running Somalian daycares that don’t exist. And as we’re learning even from the men on the streets, it involves transportation companies. It involves all sorts of other things. It’s not just Somalian daycares. The corruption is widespread, folk. I mean widespread. It’s not just daycares. And I think what Basant is saying in this particular piece, and I’m trying to figure out if he actually wrote this piece. I think he did. Yeah, this is actually his piece. This is his own opinion piece that he wrote on Fox News. And he goes into detail basically talking about there’s one way to stop this, more checks and balances, more audits, figuring out exactly where the money is. Are you actually doing with the money what you said you were going to do with the money? And on and on we go. And he’s dead on, folks. He is spot on. I mean, basically what he’s talking about is FinCEN, which is the Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network. They’re going to start digging into where a lot of this money went. And frankly, more and more people should be going to jail. And by the way, they should be. We, I, you guys listening, Charlie, I mean, Charlie and I could not set up some fake daycare and have all sorts of money coming in, millions upon millions of dollars, and get away with it. I guarantee you right now, we would get caught. And rightfully so, by the way. We should be caught. You shouldn’t be allowed to take taxpayer dollars and get rich off of it. That’s not the way this system works. That’s not the way it’s supposed to work. They shouldn’t be allowed to do so. And Scott’s right. The way to get rid of more fraud is to make people pay for the fraud that they commit in the first place. In other words, make the punishment fit the crime. And, you know, make sure that criminals, which these individuals are, make sure criminals understand you can’t get by with this. Now, I would say this. I would go as far as to say that I don’t think that every single person that participated in a lot of these fronts that were there in Minnesota, and by the way, I think you’re going to find these uncovered in other parts of the country as well. It’s not just going to be Minnesota. And I will say straight up, I don’t think every single person that stepped into this initially was a criminal. They became one, literally became one overnight by stepping into this. So what my point is, I don’t think every single person there sought out to be a criminal. But boy, once they figured out that, man, this is an easy scam, they became one. And the scam grew. And it grew and it grew and it grew. I mean, to the point where there has been individuals, and I’m sure Jersey Joe will talk about some of this, literally individuals that even faked being someone else to basically pass an inspection and continue to have the hundreds and thousands of dollars, in some cases millions of dollars, roll in. even though they weren’t legit. But they played like they were. And folks, these folks should go to jail as far as I’m concerned. They should all be in jail. These are not just small white-collar crimes. This, in my opinion, and maybe I’m wrong in this, but in my opinion, this is no different than taking a gun, going down to the bank, slipping a note to the teller telling them you want X amount of money, you want all the money out of the drawers and so on, get the money in the safe, which unfortunately that doesn’t happen much, or maybe fortunately that doesn’t happen much anymore because there’s not as much cash as a bank. That’s why bank robbers don’t get what they used to. But you understand what I’m saying, the comparison. In my opinion, it’s no different. That person that runs down to the bank and scounds all sorts of money under threat of, you know, shooting people in the bank and so on, it’s no different than what these people are doing. And in today’s day and age, if you rob a bank, you’re going to jail. So why should any of these individuals that ran these fake organizations be any different? I don’t think they should be, by the way. And the man on the street stuff, if you’re watching any of those videos and the threats that are coming against this particular individual and individuals, plural, it’s actually frightening. These are thugs. Plain and simple. I realize not everybody that got into it was, but a lot of them are. A lot of them were. A lot of them knew exactly what they were doing. They knew what was at stake. They didn’t care. They went after the money, and they’re criminals. And they should be prosecuted as such. And essentially, I’m paraphrasing a lot of what Vasant put in this particular opinion piece in Fox News, but there’s going to be more people going to jail. And he wrote, sadly, Minnesota does not have a monopoly on this sort of fraud. Similar misconduct is almost certainly happening in many other states, especially states like California, New York, Illinois, which impose lax controls on the use of government benefit funds. In fact, our own government accountability office, the GAO, estimates that the government may lose more than $500 billion to fraud. That’s half a trillion dollars, folks. That’s a lot of money. And that’s your money and mine, which, by the way, we’re borrowing. So that’s money that our grandkids will basically pay back, $500 billion in fraud that is being hoisted upon the American public. So that’s a staggering figure, larger than what the GDP of most countries has. It represents up to 10% of federal tax revenues each year and approximately 1% to 2% of GDP. That’s in fraud, folks. Fraud. People stealing, getting away with it, and we need to hold them accountable, as Basant is talking about, and send them to prison. In my opinion, like I said, no different than a person that would run down and rob a bank. It’s no different in any way, shape, or form. In fact… Knowing its harm and what it’s doing, it might be even worse than the person running down and robbing the bank. And here’s why I say that. Banks expect a certain amount of loss and shrinkage throughout the year. The federal government doesn’t, shouldn’t. Our tax dollars, mine and yours, shouldn’t be used in that way. So great piece. You can find that at foxnews.com. It’s titled Secretary Scott Besant, How to Stop Fraud in Minnesota and Across the Country. Again, it’s an opinion piece that he wrote. And by the way, it’s well worth the read. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Now, Roof Savers can help you extend the life of your roof by up to 15 years or longer. And with this great weather we’ve had of late, that product can be put on any time the temperature is above 40 degrees. Talk to Dave today. Find out if that would work for you. 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
