In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and his co-hosts dive deep into the complexities of Colorado’s political milieu. They explore how the state’s unique political landscape impacts policymaking and governance, discussing everything from economic factors to educational challenges. Along with their guests, they bring to light the strategies that could influence future elections and the importance of selecting candidates that resonate with the majority. The conversation also takes a reflective look at societal issues, emphasizing the importance of understanding and addressing voters’ real concerns. Through engaging debates and insights, the episode seeks to equip listeners with
SPEAKER 05 :
This is Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you’re scared. And you’re scared because if you try and fail, there’s only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
SPEAKER 05 :
With your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 12 :
My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job, Turk! You haven’t made everybody equal. You’ve made them the same, and there’s a big difference.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know, you can’t explain. But you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life. That there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
SPEAKER 12 :
Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 15 :
And welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Myself, Andy Pate, and of course, Charlie Grimes, our engineer. How’s Andy today?
SPEAKER 06 :
Andy is doing well. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 15 :
Always a joy. Always a joy. A little weirder weather today. It is. Just stranger today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. It’s just kind of meh. You know, it is. Now, back east, holy smokes, are they freezing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, they got nailed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we’ve got relatives back in Wisconsin. Actually, not mine. We’re talking about my wife’s. And my wife’s, I say it like it’s plural. My wife’s.
SPEAKER 15 :
Your wife?
SPEAKER 06 :
Your wife’s? Yeah, what is the possessive? Wives, wives, wife with an apostrophe S. Yeah, so it would be my wife’s.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think I only have one wife.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m not very good at this either, but I got that one right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ll have to check. Do I have any other wives? Wives. Anyway, she has relatives back there. And the wind chill was like 40 below.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, thanks. 40 below? No, thanks.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, thank you.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Yesterday’s impossible question. What mathematical structure generalizes groups and vector spaces? Abstract algebra. So for all you mathematicians, you probably already knew that. Today’s impossible question. What dead language influenced modern legal terminology most heavily? This is pretty easy. I would have even gotten this one right.
SPEAKER 06 :
What was that?
SPEAKER 15 :
What dead language influenced modern legal terminology most heavily?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would say Latin or Greek. I mean, yeah, I would say Latin.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nobody speaks that anymore, do they?
SPEAKER 06 :
Was there a caveman language? I would say that’s more foundational. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know. What was the first language? Does anybody know?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would think that, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
When did Adam and Eve speak?
SPEAKER 06 :
Adam and Eve.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Garden of Eden speak. What was it, Andy?
SPEAKER 06 :
There was no.
SPEAKER 15 :
It wasn’t English.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Obviously, there was no language because since the Tower of Babel, everything splintered from there, so we wouldn’t know Adam and Eve’s language.
SPEAKER 15 :
We have no idea what it was, do we?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, we do not.
SPEAKER 15 :
I wonder what it was, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know, but I think it probably had an Irish accent. That’s what I think. I’m not sure of that, but I think so.
SPEAKER 15 :
Picture the snake with an Irish accent.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Lucifer with an Irish accent.
SPEAKER 06 :
He did. He did. That’s what was really, really scary about him. Also, he was evil.
SPEAKER 15 :
But that Irish accent really got him going.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or maybe it was a British accent and Eve fell for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, they’re suckers for that, aren’t they? Or maybe an Aussie accent.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, even that.
SPEAKER 06 :
If it was an Aussie accent, they’re suckers for the Aussie accent. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, we might be on to something.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think we are. I think we’re writing a whole new Bible here. What do you think? You just never know.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, that is the impossible question of the day. Answer that. We’ve got several things to talk about today. We’ve got a special guest joining us, running for governor of Colorado, Jason Mikesell, right? Am I saying that right, Mikesell? Yes, you are. I believe I’ve talked to him before, so we’ll appreciate having him back here in just a few minutes. And then on top of that, we’ve got… Yeah, I’ve got a few topics from yesterday that I want to cover, plus some new topics today that Andy threw in. We will, if we have time, I promo this, so we’ll do our best to do this, but we will, with time permitting, go through the governor’s State of the State address because, you know, Polis likes to pump himself up and make him look a lot better than he really is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER 15 :
Doesn’t he?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, John, I’m just going to make it very clear here. Nothing good in Colorado has happened because of him. Nothing. Seriously. Tabor is the reason that we have a good economy. There are really two reasons that Colorado’s economy generally over the years, not recently, but generally has really done well. Number one, Tabor. It’s kept us from increasing all these taxes that crush other states. But the other one is basically all the money being pumped in by people moving here from poorly run states like New York and California. They… Because those places, everything is astronomical in price, right? So they sell. They flee California. They sell that house for $2 million, come here, and dump all that money right into our economy. Well, they were coming by the hundreds of thousands. And so you multiply that out by the millions. We have had that kind of money poured into our state over pretty much all of his term.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 06 :
He did nothing.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re correct. No, you are correct. And I talked about this yesterday. The current legislature that’s in session now, the Democrats that really are in charge because we really don’t have much of a voice at the state capitol right now. They are going to try to do as many end arounds, end runs around, I should say, Tabor as they possibly can, Andy. And there’s several things they have up their sleeve whereby they’re trying to, you know, For the kids, basically, you know, raise the TABOR limit, if you would. They’ll do this with a ballot measure that they most likely will get on there. And as I said yesterday or the day before, maybe it was even Thursday, what they’re going to do there is they will have heavy, heavy, heavy advertisement. It’s all for the kids. We need more money for the kids. This helps the kids, blah, blah, blah. And if that doesn’t pass, I’ll be surprised.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Because it always works. People are stupid. Okay. And let’s face it. Here’s what they’re really saying, John. For the kids, we want to take away the right of the parents to vote on their taxes. Right. Okay. In other words, we can use the money for the kids better than the parents can use the money for the kids. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
That and, as I said the other day, money is fungible, as we know. So if they take money in one area, that’s just less money coming out of the general budget in other areas. They know this, by the way. They know exactly what they’re doing, and they’ll do that. Now, I’ve got an article today. If we get time, again, to get to it, we will. If not, I’ll do it at a later time. But school enrollment in a lot of districts is dropping, not increasing, and yet they want more money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, but they need more money. Even though they raised our property taxes through the roof and they’ve got lower enrollment. Let me ask you one quick thing before we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re fine. You’re fine. Take your time.
SPEAKER 06 :
What about when you look at the incredible fraud that’s happening, not just in Minnesota, but everywhere nationwide, especially in blue states like this one? You know what’s happening here. When you say that money is fungible, okay, if more money comes in through any kind of tax increase, isn’t it going to go right to…
SPEAKER 15 :
those that kind of fraud basically because let’s face it folks it is not just general fraud it is democrats okay so that money is going to go right into heightened fraud that’s going to go right in the pockets of democrats right throughout the state you’re right you’re right andy 100 okay we’ll take a quick break we’ll come right back dr scott faulkner’s up next uh don’t let big health care or big pharma tell you what you need to do for your health talk to dr scott today and find out from him what you should do so you can stay healthy and feel great 303-663-6990.
SPEAKER 10 :
What if you could get over 110 lab biomarkers tested, just like Dr. Mark Hyman advertises, but for a fraction of the cost, and with a doctor who actually explains the results? At Castle Rock Regenerative Health, Dr. Scott Faulkner has recreated this powerful biomarker test panel at a substantial savings. We have a special price for both men and women. Just $689. That’s a savings of over $2,500 over the standard price. And here’s the difference. With Hyman, you get numbers on a page. With Castle Rock Regenerative Health, you get Dr. Faulkner and his team walking you through every result, showing what’s off and creating a personalized plan to fix it. What’s even better, you don’t even have to be a concierge patient to get this pricing. This is open to everyone. Think about it. Most people’s deductible is higher than this special price. And your regular doctor, if he could get approved by your insurance, would never order this many tests, let alone know what to do with them. Call 303-663-6990 today or visit CastleRockRegenerativeHealth.com. That’s 303-669-6990. Take control of your health at Castle Rock Regenerative Health.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, you’ve got a roof that’s got a lot of age on it, and you’re thinking, man, I’m going to have to do a replacement on that before too long. Well, don’t be so sure. You might be able to rejuvenate that current roof with the RoofMax product. In days like today where we’ve got warmer temperatures, that particular product can be installed. You can get up to 15 years of additional life on your roof, and sometimes even longer than that. Call Dave today, 303-710-6916.
SPEAKER 02 :
cold weather is coming is your roof ready to face it before winter winds and heavy snow hit colorado give your roof some love with roof max roof max is an eco-friendly treatment that revives old shingles adds flexibility and extends roof life saving you thousands but if it’s not time for a full replacement don’t worry we’re a full service roofing company roofs sidings gutters we do it all keeping your home cozy and protected all winter long And yes, with the right conditions, we can service your roof through the winter. Call Roof Savers of Colorado today at 303-710-6916 or visit roofsavers.com for your free winter checkup. KLZ listeners receive $250 off their treatment. Roof Savers of Colorado. Revive it or replace it. We’ll make your home winter ready.
SPEAKER 05 :
God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
SPEAKER 15 :
We are back. We appreciate you guys listening. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Rush, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I should say myself, Andy Pate, and Andy, introduce our next guest joining us right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, there are many candidates right now for Colorado governor, and this is the guy who I’ve been calling, what, John, my dark horse in the field, the one who I think could rise up out of that third tier and really threaten some of the other guys. That is Jason Mikesell. Jason, how are you today?
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m good. I’m happy to be here with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it’s good to have you. We’re glad you’re here with us as well. Appreciate it very much.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jason, before you even jump in, I want to ask the same question that I would ask of every single candidate in the Republican field, because I think it’s the hardest question. I think it’s the go-to question. And I think if you can’t answer this question, you don’t belong in. How are you, as a Republican, going to reach… going to reach a majority of voters in a blue state. This is a blue state. Okay. And I know that it’s half unaffiliated, but that half leans blue. So how are you going to reach outside of our base while keeping our base and reach those voters?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think as we talk before, it’s issues, right? It’s the right issues. It’s not social issues. It’s going directly to them and meeting with more of the independent and affiliated voters and even Democratic voters in the state. Look, Colorado is not going to vote in a pastor governor. And that’s really the race that’s happening in Colorado Springs you see right now. They’re not going to vote in a career politician into the governor’s position. They want somebody that actually is talking about issues, dealing with things, and talking about things that can change their lives. And I think that’s why my business background is working so well in the race. And also understanding that every single person wants to feel safe when they go get groceries from Safeway or a grocery store. And that that safety concern, because Colorado is one of the highest issues of crime in the United States, we need to fix that for young moms and folks that are trying to get to the grocery stores or anywhere in Colorado, for that matter. And I’m the one person that can handle that as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Jason, by the way, I agree with what you just said a moment ago and one of the concerns I’ve got with several candidates, which, by the way, I’ll just say this straight up. There’s numerous candidates, yourself included, that I align very well with. I like candidates. you know, their beliefs and what they’re what they stand for, their principles and so on. Although even myself, Jason, I personally am not electable. I’ve said far too many things on air that would very much get me in trouble running. We need somebody that can speak to your point a moment ago, speak to those middle of the road voters and have to do it in a way that’s going to convince them to vote on our side. And my question to you is, I understand that. You understand that. Why do so many of the hardcore folk on the right not understand what you and I are saying right now?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding that you can’t throw the first stone every time. The fact that we as Coloradans have to start looking at. How do we get a win? Because for over the last 10 years, we’ve been losing ground throughout this state.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re right. That’s one of the biggest complaints. No, really quick, Jason. That’s one of the biggest complaints that I have, even as a host here, is just the amount of times we lose and lose and lose. And I’ll be straight up honest. In most cases, it’s because we’ve not run the right candidate in the right race and equipped them well enough to know what talking points they need to be focused on because so many people on our side of the aisle feel like, you know, It’s all about me. It’s all about this topic or that topic and things that they feel very close to, which, by the way, that’s great, and I’m not opposing those items, and I’m sure you aren’t either, but that’s not how you win a race.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and you understand, listen, I’ve had other candidates tell me they’re going to fire everybody at the state level that’s Democrat or independent or unaffiliated. Those are the wrong ways to look at things. We have to look at it that we need the best people in office. I don’t care where they come from. They need the right leader to tell them which direction to go, and we need the right people to get Colorado back on track. Listen, we’re going to lose para. We’re losing retirement for school teachers in the state of Colorado that have worked their whole careers in maintenance and different things for the state. We’re losing our state parks. We’re losing so many things that have defined us as Coloradoans. We’ve got to come together, and we’ve got to be able to bridge that gap and get us back to where we need to be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jason, let me play devil’s advocate here for a moment on two things that you’ve said. Number one, how do you have the Christians? By the way, I’m a born-again right-wing evangelical Christian with a degree in the ministry, okay? And yet I totally agree with you. A pastor governor is not going to sell to Colorado. I totally agree. But number one, how are you going to show the Christians on the right that they’re not going to be abandoned by Jason Mikesell when you’re doing that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure. It’s my track record, right? I’m a Christian. I raised three boys in a Christian family. They’re doing well throughout the United States and here in Colorado. Because the thing is, as you become a leader at home, you don’t become a leader when you step into office. Here’s the other side, my track record. I wouldn’t let the state of Colorado shut down religious organizations in my county during COVID. Those are the things that I’ve stood up on, Truth and Liberty, and different talk shows about making sure that we allow the amendment rights for those churches to not be infringed upon by the state of Colorado. So I’ve actually shown the things I’ve done. A lot of the candidates out there that are talking about it, they’ve never shown anything. And in fact, there’s no verifiable proof that they’re going to do anything that they say they’re going to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, what would you have done with the siege that happened at the Minnesota church over the weekend?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, our jail would be full of people. Good. I’ll tell you that right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Look, right there, you just got a bunch of people back. Correct answer. Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Go ahead, Jason. That’s a law and order thing. You have to.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and really quick, I explained this yesterday, Jason, but for everybody that maybe didn’t hear me yesterday, that is definitely a law and order thing. Churches are still private property. Yes, they can be public gatherings, although they can actually determine who can be in that public gathering or not. They have the freedom to do so, Jason. It’s not a free speech issue. The minute they cross over that line and get onto private property, it’s no longer free speech. And I said yesterday, Jason, how many people are out there that just don’t even understand how free speech works and the correct—
SPEAKER 13 :
law around it you of course do because you’ve been in that world much longer even than than i have and you’re correct in what you said a moment ago about there should be a bunch of people in jail because they broke the law well and i’ll tell you here in colorado look we’ve we’ve had it where people have gone down and blocked highways and not let people through there’s no difference right that’s right you cannot stop people from living their own lives because you think that you’re right i think everybody gets that opportunity to speak not just some
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, now, as I said, second devil’s advocate here. I’m tough on every candidate, okay? You said you wouldn’t go in and fire everybody. By the way, I think that’s wise. However, what if somebody comes back and says, okay, but every time Trump did not go in and clear out a department or clear out a bunch of people, they wound up tremendously undermining him and flat out working against him and the country. What would you say to that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, listen, you deal with that when you take over a company, and you deal with that when you take over a sheriff’s office. You have some that aren’t happy with the way the directions are, but if you lead as an example and you start mentoring and you start developing people, they’ll follow. But here’s the thing. When you have people that will not follow the direction, you hold them responsible for it, and you take a hard line on the fact that we’re going to get something accomplished. If you can’t follow that, then you don’t need to be here. So that’s when you do terminations. That’s when you relieve people and move them to different locations.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
You just can’t walk in and do it without understanding that the person has the ability to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. And by the way, well said. Like you, I’ve bought and sold businesses over the years, and I know a lot of business owners and people that do acquisitions and so on. The first thing they do is come in, clean house, start over. I’ve never been one of those individuals, Jason. I just never thought that was the correct way to do things. I think there’s a better plan of action, which your plan of action is mine. I think that’s the right way to approach it. Give people a chance to make the necessary changes to see if they’ll actually come along. And if they don’t, then, of course, you’ve got to ask them to leave because if they’re not going to be a team player, they can’t be a part of the team.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, also, Jason, you are a sheriff. You are a sheriff. Okay. Do you respond differently to Republican households as to Democrat households, or do you serve everyone equally?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that’s the interesting part for folks that have talked about that. You know, we as law enforcement respond to everybody’s home the same way. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
We have to. Okay. Well, one second, one second, one second before you run on, because I don’t want to run on from there. So if you serve everybody equally as a sheriff, what you’re saying is that you would want to give everybody at the state government level the opportunity to serve everyone equally in their jobs, even if they have biases against you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And you know, you bring up a good point, because here’s the thing that I’ve seen in Colorado, right? Right now, you have no leadership at a state level. And the problem is that state leadership is going after people internally within the state of Colorado for not following what they believe is the right thing, even though they’re attempting to do the right thing. And I think that that’s true in the Department of Corrections. That’s true in your probation departments, where they’re just continuing releasing people. And you’ve got employees saying, we shouldn’t be releasing them. Those are Democrats, Independents, Republicans. They’re all saying, we should not be releasing people this way. And you have a state Democrat at the very top of the head of the government saying, no, you’re going to release them.
SPEAKER 15 :
To me, that’s just a complete conflict, and that’s leadership not listening to the folks that are at that level that know far better about what’s going on than that person does.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And that’s the problem in Colorado now is there’s no true leadership or understanding of business operations or local government operations or anything to do. It’s all based on… politics and a direction that they believe through their social mechanisms that that’s the way it has to be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jason, I want to give my personal bias here on an issue. I think a huge central issue for the Republican candidate for governor should actually be not our state, but California. And the reason is this. California is going to collapse this year. It is an utter collapse right now. And I mean, they are losing jobs and companies left and right. Their gas prices are over $7 average right now, and it may go higher. It looks like it will. And so I’m going to challenge you. Are you willing to look at Michael Bennett and say, hey, California is in full collapse. What would you do? I want you to tell me everything that’s wrong with how California has been run and how you would make sure we don’t do that. I mean, would you challenge him on the collapse of California?
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And here’s the thing. We’re doing the exact same model of California right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s why I ask it. In 23 years. Yep. In 23 to 24, we lost over 30,000 businesses in the state of Colorado. Over 10 of those had over 600 and some employees. Our economy can’t stabilize that. And right now, even like the para issues that they’re running to at the state level, right now the state is taking low interest rates loans from para to pay for things, social programs, all kinds of issues. We have a $77 million or billion dollar um, payout towards all those folks that have paid in for so long, but we only sustained $45 billion. We have a 33 some million dollar billion dollars that we don’t even know how we’re going to come up with that pay people out on that. Here’s the only thing that’s saving Colorado right now. Tabor.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because if they relieve the Tabor as a safety mechanism, we will be in the same predicament as California where we overspend. We can’t pay back those loans, even to para, and we will see a collapse
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 13 :
That they have said that couldn’t happen, but that will be the trigger to make it happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s right. One other thing, too, Jason, I talked about this this past weekend on my car show. I do drive radio on Saturdays. We talk about cars and people calling with questions and so on. And I don’t get into too many politics, but it came up this last weekend about the law that was passed several years ago here in Colorado, where if you have your catalytic converter stolen or if the one you have on the car right now goes bad, there was a law passed, and this was very much implemented by our current governor, He was the one really behind this. You have to now replace that catalytic converter with a California-approved catalytic converter. And I tell you what, it has done nothing, Jason, but raised the price of auto repair for people that are out there, and in some cases, no fault of their own that their catalytic converter was stolen. But now, because of that law in Colorado, which, by the way, needs to be repealed, and we need to just go back to the 48-state cat that’s out, or 49-state cat that’s out there, because there’s nothing wrong with it, and it works just fine, and there’s actually no proof. In fact, I did a little bit of… figuring on Saturday, Jason, when it comes to, because I’m in that world, when it comes to the California cats and the amount of rigmarole some of these people are running around doing, trying to find that cat and even have it freighted in, and on and on we go. Whatever type of emissions offset somebody at the top here in Colorado thought they were saving by forcing people to have that is negated by everything I just said. My point is this. These are the type of topics that I feel somebody running for governor could talk about because it resonates with everyone. Yeah, hardcore lefties, no, they’re not going to vote for us anyways, Jason, at the end of the day. But there’s enough other people out there that that topic alone that I just mentioned, because people have been affected by that directly, those are the things that average Coloradans want changed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and also, really quick here, on top of that, that’s a perfect example of every time we do anything that California does, it hurts us. That’s why I mentioned it. So, Michael Bennett, how are you going to do the opposite of what California does? I think Jason would. Go ahead, Jason.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. And here’s the thing I think that sometimes is missed. In the state of Colorado, it’s illegal to force counties to pay for something through the state that they don’t have the capability to pay for. But you know what’s never been pushed is the fact that how can a state government force a citizen of Colorado to continually have to buy things that are extra to do something that they want done? And here’s why I’m saying that. It’s not just catalytic converters. It’s also lockboxes in your vehicle for your firearms. Because if somebody breaks in, it’s not their fault that they steal your gun. It’s your fault for not buying a lockbox by law and putting it in your car. It’s the putting one in your home. It’s not all those types of regulations that cause a citizen of Colorado to have to spend extra money should be looked at and should be placed in the Colorado Constitution. It says you can’t force consumers to buy things through companies at a cost to them that the state’s not assisting with.
SPEAKER 15 :
Agree. Agree. And that goes back to the reason I mentioned the Cadillac converter thing is because, again, to Andy’s point, that was a direct copy of what California is doing. You know, we can talk even further about, you know, our emission laws we have in Colorado, what they want to do with EVs and so on. And the reality is we’re trying to copy ourselves into California. And yet, to Andy’s point, California is a state that’s really on the brink of ruin. Jason, why would we want to copy anything they’re doing?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we don’t. And that’s the thing is we’ve had 10 years of Democratic rule. in this state where they have not done one thing? And if even Democrats start thinking about it, what’s one thing that you can name that this state has done for you in the last 10 years that’s made your life easier, safer, or given you more money in your pocket? You can’t find one.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, the only people that could answer that, Jason, would be folks that are on the government dole, on government cheese. They might be able to give you some examples. But those of us that are positive taxpayers, you’re correct. There isn’t anything benefiting us.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and that’s got to change. Colorado has to think about Colorado. And I think that’s the biggest thing. A lot of candidates run on the fact that they want to chase after the federal side of everything. Well, here’s the thing. When do we work for Coloradoans? When are we putting money into Colorado races so that we can win back what we believe is our Colorado? And I think that’s the hard part for me to swallow sometimes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me ask you one last thing here, Jason, before we go. Colorado voters, by and large, are afraid of the Republican Party. I mean that. They look at the Republican Party, they feel it’s a toxic brand. I don’t think it is, but they feel it is. And they are afraid of Republicans getting into office. What do they fear about us?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think that we have done a really bad job as Republicans as to showing people what it really means. It’s a party of freedom. That’s what we started with, right? I think the messaging has been so bad for a long time, and we have really run candidates that couldn’t win races. They were solely being run on ideological issues that were in contrast to everybody in Colorado, even in the Republican Party sometimes. So I think because of that, that’s what’s created this bubble where people aren’t going to want them. But here’s the thing that I think will change that. The fact that we’re losing funding for everything. They don’t have the money they used to in their pockets. They’re not safe anywhere they go in Colorado anymore. They don’t have the water rights that they used to have. They don’t have the voting rights that they used to have. Look, you’ve got a state government that now is really wanting to do away with local government and take control from a state level. That’s scary to me. And schools, taking away the ability for parents to make decisions in schools. I think your independents, even Democrats, they want as parents to be able to make decisions on their own children and not have the state of Colorado do it for them.
SPEAKER 15 :
100%, Jason. Again, like I said, we think a lot alike. I’m like Andy. I appreciate, A, you joining us. I’m like him, too. I think you’re the quote-unquote dark horse candidate that’s out there. I think a lot of things will shake out with some of the other candidates when it’s all said and done. You and I have talked already before on air, and number one, I appreciate your time and appreciate your willingness to throw your hat in the ring. That’s not an easy thing to do. It’s hard on families. I get all of that. It’s partially why I’ve never done it, to be honest with you. It’s a very… large sacrifice, even to get to this point, and I appreciate you doing it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, thank you. And I hope, you know, at the end of this, the effort’s worth it, and I’ll be sitting in the governor’s office, and we’ll do a show from there.
SPEAKER 15 :
That would be awesome.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jason, really quick before you go, how can people reach you and support you?
SPEAKER 13 :
You can find me at MikeSoul4Gov.com, and that’s MikeSoul4Gov.com. You can go through our website. You can find us on social media at and you can ask to have us come and speak in front of your groups. But thank you so very much, guys, and I hope to see you again soon.
SPEAKER 15 :
Awesome, Jason. Keep it up and let us know when you want to come back. Will do. All right, have a great one. We appreciate it very much. Veteran Windows and Doors coming up next. Save money on Windows and Doors by going directly to the source, meaning that you cut out that middleman and save money in doing so. Dave can help you with that. Give him a call today. Dave Bancroft at Veteran Windows and Doors. Find him at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
You want windows for your home that will truly last. That’s why we trust our exclusive partner, Veteran Windows and Doors. As a Provia Platinum dealer, Veteran offers unique, customizable window options you simply won’t find anywhere else. For example, they now offer several new laminate window options that are built to last and virtually maintenance-free. So once they’re installed, there’s nothing left to think about. This kind of reliability is rare in the window industry. All Provia windows are designed and manufactured right here in the US with quality and precision. And through Veterans Provia Platinum Partnership, you also get access to four new window series featuring classic wood grain finishes with a remarkably realistic look, giving you more flexibility to match the style of your home. Enjoy peace of mind knowing your windows will stay beautiful and energy efficient for years to come. For top-of-the-line windows you can trust, contact Veteran Windows and Doors by going to klzradio.com today.
SPEAKER 15 :
Cub Creek Eating and Air Conditioning. Problems with your furnace? Give them a call today. Make an appointment online. Go to klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
Act now with Cub Creek Heating and AC before the new regulations make replacing your furnace significantly more expensive. Cub Creek still has some sellable inventory that was manufactured prior to the new rules. But once this inventory is gone, low nitrogen oxide units become your only option. And that means higher prices for you to buy and to operate. If your furnace is on its last leg or you’re considering replacing it, now is the time to act. As Rheem certified pro partners, Cub Creek Heating and AC will never sell you something you don’t need. They’ll tell you honestly if your furnace still has life left in it and how long it can reasonably last. No pressure, no obligation, just straight answers so you can make the right decision for your home and save money. Mention you heard this on KLZ when you purchase a system and you’ll receive a free one-year maintenance agreement. A $350 value. Call Cub Creek Heating and AC today. Find them on our klzradio.com advertisers page.
SPEAKER 05 :
The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate. John, I want to talk a little bit about the field. First of all, what do you think of that guy?
SPEAKER 15 :
I like him. Yeah. He’s impressive. I’ve said that before. I mean, and there’s no beating around the bush here. I’ll be straight up honest with everybody. And I even told Jason this a moment ago when I’ve interviewed him before. He doesn’t have the name, you know, out front name recognition that some of the other candidates have. That’s not, by the way, a bad thing. That can come with time. And reality is his approach and how he’s really even approaching the campaign currently, I’ll just say it straight up, it’s spot on. It’s right on the money. It’s exactly what I would be doing if I were in his shoes. I think the biggest thing that… that he needs, and we’re helping him with this right now, is just get more name recognition. I have nothing against Scott Bottoms. I think Scott’s a great guy. He’s also running. He thinks a lot like I do. In fact, he thinks very much like I do. In fact, he is me in a lot of ways, and that’s why he’s unelectable. And I mean that as sincerely as I possibly can say that. Again, I like Scott. He’s a great guy. I’ve interviewed him before. He and I think exactly alike on the majority of topics. That’s why I’m saying what I’m saying, because of that, he’s unelectable. And by the way, even if… He thought like I did. And some of you are saying, well, you know, he can tone that down and that doesn’t have to come out on the campaign trail and so on. No, folks, because he’s already said it. You know, he’s been in the legislature here in Colorado. There’s a lot of things that he’s already said, just like me as a talk show host that are going to be held against you no matter what. Those holes are really hard to dig out of, is my point, Andy. And Scott’s done a lot of the same things that even you and I have done, meaning he’s not a good candidate to run for governor of Colorado. Victor Marks. I don’t know Victor personally. I’ve never interviewed Victor. But my fear with Victor is, again, because of the church’s background of what Victor has going on and not saying that’s a bad thing. For all of you listening that are Victor Marks supporters, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. Or a good thing. What I’m saying is it will be an issue with some voters.
SPEAKER 06 :
Has he come on here yet?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, he has not.
SPEAKER 06 :
He hasn’t called us. That’s interesting. Well, you know, I agree. And I like what you were saying earlier, John, when you were saying that he has said these things. It’s going to be out there. But it’s more than that. It’s not just when you have said a few things. It’s when you’ve stressed them. It’s when you’ve made them core to who you are. Right. You know, the my pillow guy is not going to win in Minnesota. Why? Because the biggest thing for him has been the 2020 election. Nobody wants to talk about that. See what I’m talking about? It’s not going to work. You are not going to sell as a candidate to a blue leading state.
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
You are not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s talk about the field really quick. Not all the field, just the top group, okay? Because this is what I think makes the gentleman we just talked to very interesting. And Mike Sell is interesting because he’s a dark horse in a field that right now you’re seeing some crumbling in various aspects.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, we’re not going to mention all whatever it is, 17, 18 candidates.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
We’ll roll through the top, what, four or five, Andy?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and we would be totally willing, and we would love to hear from some of the other candidates who want to call in and introduce themselves to the audience.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, the invitation’s always open, but I don’t seek you out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we don’t seek you out. I didn’t seek Mike Sellout.
SPEAKER 15 :
I never seek, and I’ve said this before, but I’ll make sure I reiterate this. For all of you even that have campaigns, I don’t solicit people to come on air. all of the guests even that you hear us have on air, those have come to us. I rarely, if ever, Make a phone call. In fact, I can probably, Andy, on two or three fingers in the 11 or 12 years I’ve done this, tell you who I’ve reached out to to bring on air. I just don’t do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, a big part of that is if you start soliciting, then people wonder, well, why didn’t you solicit me? And then you’re playing against each other. And no offense, Andy, I don’t have time. No, you don’t.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ve got other things to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, let me talk about some of the field. Now, right now, at the top, you’ve got Marks, of course. And he just had a huge fundraising haul.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
The reason that I believe a lot of people are excited about him is very simply this. They look at California. It is California. They look at Colorado, a blue-leaning state, and they feel a Republican cannot win here unless it’s a movement Republican. And he is the only one who is a movement Republican. All right? There are no others. There are a lot of people committed to him who are not traditional Republicans at all. And you can say, well, wait a minute, but they’re all church folk. Yeah, but John, the church is not full of a bunch of people who are reliable Republicans, believe it or not. Okay? And the followers of Marx are very, very intense. They donate a lot of money. They are fully committed. He has quite an organization. It’s a movement.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I believe that that’s why they’re very excited about him. I believe that’s why he’s the leader right now in the clubhouse. I don’t know how that’s going to flesh out over the next few months. Obviously, vetting is going to go into his financial background. Has he had any financial misdealings with his ministries and so forth? I don’t know, but that’ll come out if it is. Right now, he’s at the top, but he’s also the new flavor of the month. So we don’t know. Next, the next tier down. is really now just three people because Lopez and Bazley, who were in the next tier, have left. Well, Lopez, yeah, he has left. He’s done. He left the GOP. He’s done.
SPEAKER 15 :
He’s done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
He has no chance. Those of you that are Lopez’s fans, which love you, but you’ve hitched yourself to a wagon that is unwinnable. That just became unhitched. That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And once again, I’m going to say this. I like Greg Lopez, but number one, he absolutely cannot win. And number two, the only thing he can succeed at doing, and he will do, is peeling off votes from the Republican Party. Number three, he will not peel off votes from the Democrat Party. Some people believe he will. No. Guys. No.
SPEAKER 15 :
How foolish can you be?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. A lot of his supporters are trying to say that online. Oh, jeez. You guys are morons. To try to draw in gullible Republicans following him. You’re morons. They’re saying, oh, he’ll draw equally from both sides. John, you know I know politics, okay? Let me be honest. I don’t care that he was a long time ago a Democrat. His entire brand has been built on the Republican side of the aisle.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
of his main views are republican correct he will not sell to democrats at all he will not sell to left-leaning um independents not at all okay only take from us right and one last thing i want to remind people if you run a republican organization that has republican in the name You must not have him or any other independent non-Republican speak at your events. Why? Because those events are for loyal Republicans who kept the R on their jersey. They said, I’m proud of you. I’m proud of my party. I’m proud of that team. Okay? You can’t have a non-Denver Bronco come in and get in the game. Okay? Mm-hmm. You see what I’m saying? You can’t do that. So if you run a Republican organization, absolutely do not have Greg Lopez come. And I don’t say that in any negative way toward Greg. I like Greg. I say that in a positive way toward the people who we need to show. We need to reward the loyalty of the candidates who have stayed. Okay. So Lopez and Baisley are out. Baisley now is running for Senate. I think it’s a great idea. Okay. The next second tier below Marks then is three people. Scott Bottoms, Joel Oatman, and Barb.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sorry. Excuse me. Something caught my throat there a moment ago, Andy, when you said that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. In other words, Rhino Watch.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Okay. Total. He is Rhino Watch. Oh, my word. Joel Oatman is Rhino Watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
So everything. By the way.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let me throw one more thing on top of that real quick. Yeah, please, please. He is the thug of Rhino Watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So let me make sure I’m very clear on that. And, Joel, if you’re listening, Joel, if you want to sue me over this, sue me, because guess what? We can go toe-to-toe on that and the things if you’d like. You are nothing but a thug when it’s all said and done. You need to go far, far away and stay out of politics in Colorado because you’re a thug.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, he just lashes out at everybody.
SPEAKER 15 :
He is a thug through and through.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s just, ugh. And the other one, by the way, is Barb Kirkmeyer. Now, I’m going to give my feelings on each one, and then you do it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, go for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
First of all, Scott Bottoms, I agree with you. I love Scott. He cannot sell to a majority of this blue state. I believe if Scott Bottoms were our candidate, and he’s like me, he has my views, he would have a 0.00 chance of winning. And I have challenged his supporters online, and folks, listen to me closely. I have challenged hundreds of his supporters online to answer this question. How is he going, someone with his views, going to win a majority of votes in a blue leading state? Not one, even some who campaigned for him, not one has been able to provide an answer. I think that says it all.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick, Andy, because there isn’t one.
SPEAKER 06 :
There isn’t one.
SPEAKER 15 :
The answer is he can’t.
SPEAKER 06 :
He can’t. He’s not a viable candidate in our state. That is not a bad statement on him. It is a bad statement on our state, on the market as it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s exactly right. Thank you. Thank you. Great comment, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, next. Joe Altman. Look.
SPEAKER 15 :
I already said what I thought.
SPEAKER 06 :
He cray-cray. Okay, I’m just going to say it. This guy is… Okay, Rhino Watch represents really the small, angriest, most enraged, vicious, nutty contingent of the Republican Party. By the way, it runs more than half of the state central committee. Unfortunately, that’s because of caucus and assembly. We don’t have time to go into that. But… They don’t run over half the state party. They’re a very small contingent of our party. The very, very, very far wing of our party in a state that is only 22% our party. Okay. He’s not electable in any way. If you were to say, Andy, out of all these candidates, who would lose the biggest? It’s Joe Oltman.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, big time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Joe Oltman, I believe, would lose, let’s see, Heidi lost by 19.8 or whatever. It’s a 50% loss, easy. I won’t go that high, but I’ll go. Oh, I would. Because you’ve got the people who will just vote R. I’ll go 30 plus. A 30 plus point loss.
SPEAKER 15 :
And here’s why I’m going farther than Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
There are a certain amount of R’s, myself included, where he is such a turnoff that I wouldn’t vote for a D ever. I just wouldn’t vote. I’d be like, yeah, I’m done. I’m not voting.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know me. I’m a team player. I would vote the R no matter what. In that case, Andy? But I will say this. He pushes me as close to not casting the vote as anybody.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, no, I’ll say it straight up. Just because of who he is, knowing what an absolute nut job he is, he is one of the rare exceptions in my world where if he ran, even though he’s got an R next to his name, because here’s the deal, folks. I don’t consider him an R. I consider him a C. He’s crazy. He’s absolutely crazy.
SPEAKER 06 :
I consider him, you know, and I say this politically, folks, not in the literal sense. I consider him a political terrorist. He is only in the Republican Party to attack it. He has no loyalty to the Republican Party at all. He doesn’t even have loyalty to Trump unless Trump does everything he wants. He has no loyalty to us at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s right. You’re correct, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s just a rage machine.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re right. That’s all he is.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s my opinion. Next, Barb Kirkmeyer. I believe Barb Kirkmeyer would lose far too much of the base to be able to compete statewide in Colorado.
SPEAKER 15 :
She loses worse than Heidi as well because of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think it would be a real problem. And don’t get me wrong, I like Barb. I think Barb’s views are the best positioned to win in the state of Colorado. But the problem is, Barb is hated so deeply. Not just by the Rhino Watchers, but really, I would say by the… The more right-wing half of the party really dislikes her. Okay? Not me. And I am in the right half of the party, but I like Barb. Okay? But I’m not the whole party. I don’t think Barb can get a majority of our party. I mean, obviously, the loyalists will vote for her, but I think she would lose. I think 10% to 15% of those who would ordinarily vote for the Republican would stay home if she’s our candidate. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
You are spot on. And again, like you said, I mean, would I rather have Barb than anybody running on the left? Absolutely. But is Barb personally for me my favorite choice? No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. That leaves the third tier, and that’s the rest of the candidates thus far. And look, I’m just being honest. Jason Mikesell seems to be… the dark horse of that group.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 06 :
Who could emerge from that group. Willie, hey, man, he doesn’t have the money yet. He doesn’t have the name rec yet. It’s early, though. He needs some others to clobber each other. I think Altman and Bottoms are going to clobber each other. I do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, and then Lopez is going to steal from Bottoms as well. So just keep that in mind also for all of you listening. So Oltman and Bottoms will duke it out. Lopez is going to steal from him as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Oltman and Lopez also are followed by those who have no loyalty to the party.
SPEAKER 15 :
True. True. Good point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so they’re the outliers. Right, they’re the outliers, but that is a percentage. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, no, you’re correct. Meaning, those two basically will cancel themselves out. Lopez is no longer going to be in the picture. You know, really, when it’s all said and done, you’re probably going to come down to… To Marks, who, again, through the vetting and so on that Andy’s talking about, you know, he may make it, he may not. You know, at the end of the day, after all that’s said and done, you’re going to have Mike Sell, who we just interviewed, and Kirkmeyer. Right. By the way, you could very well come down to those two.
SPEAKER 06 :
You could even come down to those three. You know, I think it would be very interesting if down the stretch, if people start dropping off like Oltman just starts his support, you know he’s going to enrage a bunch of people. Okay, after Oltman and Bottoms start dropping down to where all you’ve got left are their hardcores. Right. Right. And then you’ve got Kirkmeyer and Marks and –
SPEAKER 15 :
Mike Sell.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mike Sell. If you have just those three at the end, wouldn’t that be an interesting race?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because I think that’s where Jason, who we just interviewed a moment ago, could really rise to the top because, again, he’s going to attract a different type of voter than even what Kirkmeyer and Marx are going to attract. Kirkmeyer’s got her lemmings that follow her around and so on. We already know that Marx has those as well. By the way, Jason doesn’t have those. In fact, at the end of the day, it might serve him the best because he doesn’t have a quote-unquote cult following.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, he doesn’t. Now, I will say this. He’d better be careful with telling people, I don’t think Colorado will vote in a pastor governor. He’s totally right. But, you know, there’s quite a hardcore contingent in our party that if that’s not explained at first blush, we’ll take that wrong.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because they’re not very smart. Sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
I didn’t say it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I did.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know what? I’m the pointy more, Andy. I really don’t care. I’m going to say what I think because politics in Colorado has gotten so screwed up because of all of the knuckleheads that we have in here. One of those, of course, being Dave Williams that I talked about yesterday. We’ll talk more about what he did recently. I wanted Andy’s thoughts on that when we go into the second hour. We won’t have a lot of time. We’ve got a guest at the top of the hour. But at the end of the day, folks, our politics in Colorado, messy. Yes. Yes. And and I will agree with Jason on this. The reason they’re messy is because we’ve had no real leadership. And the one thing I will agree with Jason on is governor. If we have a Republican governor becomes kind of that quasi leader of the state for the party, just like Polis is the quasi leader of the Democrat Party. I mean, I know he’s not in charge of the. of the of the party per se he’s not the chairman but let’s face it andy it’s it’s like president trump really being in charge of the republican party right now because he’s president that’s how it works so if we were somehow to elect somebody like jason as governor of colorado him being a republican and being the leader that he talked about being which i believe he is we’d win more races yeah you’d win a lot more races because you’d have a guy in charge of the state and really kind of the party if you would that has a basic understanding of what it takes to win
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. And also because he would be emphasizing the things that unite for you will have a majority of Coloradoans, not just Republicans who want more law and order, for instance.
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, let’s do this. We’ll take a quick break. We’ll come back. And Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. As far as the legal end of things are not legal, the financial end of things go. Talk to Al today. Don’t forget, Al’s got his own program tomorrow between 2 and 2.30. But if you need anything when it comes to your financial future, getting there, staying in retirement, talk to Al today. Find him at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 11 :
Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial helps you get on track for 2026 by taking a fresh look at your retirement plan. If you’re like most people, money gets spread out over time. Old accounts, new jobs, life changes, and suddenly it’s hard to see the whole picture. Taking a fresh look with Al often means simplifying what’s gotten complicated. So less confusion, clearer records, and a solid plan for the future. And it’s not just about numbers. Al asks what’s really driving you to come in. because sometimes the issue isn’t your 401k. It’s a move you’re considering. Family dynamics, new health concerns, or uncertainty about retirement timing. Golden Eagle Financial plans at your speed and follows up regularly so you can be confident that you’re retiring on your terms and getting the most out of what you’ve spent a lifetime putting in. Get a fresh look at your retirement plan with a no-obligation meeting with Al Smith. Find out how on the klzradio.com advertisers page.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, Geno’s Auto Service is up next. Don’t forget, Geno starts with a J. Let them help you with all the things you need done for your vehicle, and you can do that by going to genosautoservice.com, and Geno starts with a J.
SPEAKER 09 :
Take advantage of Geno’s Alignment and Tire Rotation Special. Save $30 on a four-wheel alignment with tire rotation through the end of the month. Have you ever noticed how your tires have a way of finding holes in the pavement? Now is a great time to get your car aligned and your tires rotated. With constant alignments every 10,000 to 12,000 miles, you will experience better handling and improved tire wear. Geno’s is celebrating 43 years in business, serving Littleton, Colorado families and local communities. At Geno’s, we back up our work with Napa’s nationwide 36-month, 36,000 miles peace of mind warranty. We invite you to check out all our Google reviews to get a true snapshot of our business. We offer loaner vehicles so you can drop your car off and pick up when ready. Save $30 on an alignment and tire rotation. Give us a call or go online to schedule an appointment. Geno’s is AAA approved and located at Bowles and Platt Canyon. Stop in or visit us online at genosautoservice.com.
SPEAKER 15 :
Paul Leuenberger, if you’re looking for insurance, Paul is my insurance broker. He would love to help you with your insurance needs as well. Calling today, 303-662-0789.
SPEAKER 01 :
Even in the age of AI, looking for the right insurance can be a huge hassle. Paul Leuenberger has you covered without the hassle. He works with the best in the business. Hartford, Travelers, Safeco, Liberty Mutual, Nationwide, Allstate, AIG, Chubb, Pure, Berkeley, Grundy, Hagerty, and more. He’s local, independent, and licensed in Wyoming, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, and Texas. and he’s expanding into more states soon. Paul’s mission is simple, to find the right coverage at the best value and to treat every client like family. So whether you’re shopping for home, auto, or something more unique, don’t shop online. Call Paul at 303-662-0789 today. That’s 303-662-0789. Paul Leuenberger, insurance made easy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. A couple minutes left of this particular hour. We ran through the contingent of governor’s candidates for the Republican side. No, we didn’t cover every single candidate. What Andy and I just did was really took out the ones that we feel will gradually rise to the top. It’s already happening, really, as we speak. Now, some of them aren’t going to rise very far. The crazy Joel Oltmans of the world, he’s not going to get very far.
SPEAKER 06 :
What he’s done— He’ll rise quickly and then hit a ceiling.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, what he’s done is – and he knows this because – and I know Joel fairly well just from other things and watching him and so on. Joel’s a disruptor. That’s basically all he does. Joel is a disruptor. He’s a pot stirrer. I don’t know how else to say it, but he’s a pot stirrer. He’s a pot stirrer in the party. He’s a pot stirrer out of the party. He’s just a pot stirrer, period. That’s what he does. And by the way, there’s people out there in the world that live for that. Joel’s one of those. And I’m not saying that in a bad way. You just got to know who people are, and that’s who he is. He’s a pot stirrer.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, remember when I said the state central committee meeting was the worst – mess i have ever seen in my entire life it was basically the minneapolis riots at a meeting got it it really was it was like the people the anti-brita people at that meeting were a lot like the anti-ice people they were that irrational loud screaming out of control um fervent i mean it was just sick well those are oltman’s supporters right right great point great point I mean, they hold a lot of power within the party apparatus. They hold very few numbers within the party at large.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And again, the other thing that I will just say really quick about Joel that I don’t care for, the guy runs around like he’s got all the money known to God and he’s willing to spend it. And I’ll bet you at the end of the day, he doesn’t have near as much as he claims to have. But he wants you to think that he’s a bigwig.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Literally, that’s what he wants you to think.
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s got money, but I don’t think he does.
SPEAKER 15 :
He doesn’t have as much as you think he does, trust me on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, anyway, I’ll leave it at that. That was our synopsis of who’s running right now. We’ll see how things go. We’ve got two more hours coming your way. We’ve got a guest that’s going to join us, actually from the RNC, here at the top of the hour, Jody Weiss, I believe is how you say her last name, former FBI and superintendent of the Chicago Police Department. We’ll talk to her in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Average guys.
SPEAKER 1 :
Ordinary average guys.
