Join us for an engaging episode of Drive Radio where car enthusiasts and experts gather to discuss everything automotive. We kick off with an introduction to the Tri-State Swap Meet, exploring its appeal to collectors and hobbyists looking for unique car parts and memorabilia. With insightful commentary and firsthand experiences, our hosts navigate the world of swap meets, delivering superb advice for both seasoned attendees and first-timers. The discussion moves into Super Bowl territory, unraveling the excitement and intricacies of legendary car commercials that have captured audiences over decades.
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All right, it’s Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in. Three hours we’ll do here in a row, live call-in shows. If you’ve got a car question, by all means, let us know, 303-477-5600. Paul Leuenberger with me today. He is our insurance resident expert. We’ll talk about insurance stuff today, which, by the way, coincides with Kent from Novus Autoglass in Sterling is with us as well. Roy and Dietze were going to be here today, and then they had – some things come up near their house so they will not be with us we’ll have them back here in a couple of weeks so roy deets if you guys are listening thanks for all you do as well we appreciate you greatly but good morning guys good morning how’s john good you guys picked a beautiful day to be inside it’s very nice now kent came down because kent’s going to the tri-state swap meet yes are you going paul as well no no just you
SPEAKER 05 :
Go see if I can find some more car parts and car stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s a lot out there. More stuff. There’s a lot out there. So for those of you that have not ever been to that, it’s a great event, and I’m not sure why they coincide that with Super Bowl weekend, but anyways, they do. Today will be a big day. They’ll be there tomorrow as well, but today’s a bigger day. And there’s cars to see, and there’s guys selling wares, and you can even peddle some of your wares, I think, if you want to. So there’s all sorts of things you can do along those lines. Again, it’s a big quote-unquote swap meet where you can go find something that maybe – for your car, your building, or collector car, or you just want to go see some cool things, license plates, whatever. I mean, you pretty much think of it, and it’ll be inside of that building. It’s at the Coliseum.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve only been a few times, but there’s a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s a lot of stuff. So, yeah. And for me personally, maybe I shouldn’t say this, but for me personally, with everything I’ve been through the last couple of years, going through all of my dad’s stuff, I have no desire to be there. I kind of had my own mini swap meet for the longest time of all the things that I had to go through from all of that. And, yeah, I just don’t have any – desire sorry guys i don’t think your wife would be happy if you’re coming home with i don’t need to drag any more junk home no i i went through enough of that already i shouldn’t say junk stuff things and i know for some people it’s still very valuable but again you can find things there literally you you think about it you know some of you that are even looking for art and decor and you know car memorabilia and so on yeah they’ll have that and apparel and everything in between
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Yeah, I should be there selling stuff, not buying stuff. Yeah, you should be, actually. It’s time to move on.
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303-477-5600. Okay, in honor of Super Bowl, which is tomorrow, and we talked best commercials last night on Rush to Reason. Andy and I and Richard did that. So kind of in honor of that, question of the day today is, give me your favorite car commercial. Now, it doesn’t have to be a Super Bowl-related commercial, but just any… solid car commercial which i richard sent me a note this morning that the car companies for the super bowl have cut way back so you’re not going to see hardly any super bowl ads tomorrow by the car companies and part of that i think is just honestly the cost so tomorrow’s super bowl ad is 200 and let’s see i gotta remember this right it’s 230 000 a second So $230,000 a second for the commercials that will run tomorrow. So the car companies, I’m guessing, are looking at that knowing, hey, you’re probably going to have a little bit of a lighter year than we normally have had. Both General Motors and Toyota downgraded their sales numbers. So I think all of them are looking at, you know, pinching pennies. Some of them also, and this is a topic for discussion maybe even for today, have taken a ton down. of write-offs, of late write-downs, I should say, of late when it comes to EVs. Stellantis, Ford, a lot of them struggled in that area because, again, they jumped on the bandwagon, and the government was pushing it, and the free market wasn’t. And I’ve talked about that so many times, I’m not going to talk about it again. Anytime you get involved and push a product on the consumer versus letting them choose to buy it, it normally does not end well, and it didn’t end well for some of these companies, and they have taken billions of dollars in losses. And I think combined that with the cost of a Super Bowl ad in general, yeah, I think some of them are sitting it out for all those reasons.
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I don’t blame them. That’s a lot of money.
SPEAKER 08 :
$230,000 a second? Yeah. And what’s amazing is some of those companies that will be running those ads, and we talked about this some yesterday, to see exactly where things go down the road. That’s sort of the launch site, I guess you could say, or the launch day for a lot of those guys, and they’ll run those ads for several months afterwards, and they’ll get as much out of that as they possibly can. But, yeah, they’re spending a boatload of money to run. So when you watch the Super Bowl tomorrow, some of you that will, and you look at an ad that’s even 30 seconds long, just start doing the math as to how much that costs. Add cost. Plus all of the production and everything else. I mean, I’m just talking the airtime is 230 grand a second.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, they spend a lot of money on production making those commercials. Well, and if you’ve got some big athletes in it, you’re paying them, too.
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There’s a lot of overhead doing those. So, yeah, for some of those. But, again, point being, what’s the favorite car commercial? You can text us 307-200-8222. You can call in, by the way, 303-477-5600. I’ve got several things to talk about today, one of them also being RFID chips in tires, which I did not know they were doing. I’ve got an article that one of you sent me along those lines. We’ll get into that today. And again, we’re going to talk insurance. So insurance, auto glass, all of that today, that will be our highlight. If you’ve got questions along the lines of either side of that, please give us a call. Typically, you all do, whether it’s on the insurance side and what does it take to be properly insured to what happens if you have an accident to on and on we go. Give us a call. Paul’s our expert along those lines. And, of course, on the Auto Glass side, Kent from Novus, who a lot of times I’m getting information from even when he’s not here on air. But if you’ve got a question for Kent when it comes to Auto Glass, by all means, let us know, and we’ll take that as well. 303-477-5600. We’ll take our first break. We’ll come back at Roland Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we are back. Appreciate you listening to Drive Radio, KLZ 560. John and Centennial, you’re next. Go ahead, sir. First today, I should say.
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Hey, how you guys doing?
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Doing great. How are you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Good. As you all know, over the last couple of years, the price of tires have really gone up. And I understand that. But do you notice that whether it’s Costco, Big O, Discount, or whatever, they’re charging $45 a piece for TPSs. You’re spending another $200 for tire monitoring.
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And that’s actually not a bad price for TPMS sensors. And the real thing you really have to ask is do they need it or are they just doing that to upcharge you? Because those are typically good for about seven years, John.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, okay. That’s why I wondered. I was just curious. Okay, so you don’t have to replace them every time you replace tires.
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You do not.
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Depending on how long you keep the tires.
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You do not.
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Okay. How do you know if they’re good or bad just when it shows up on your dash?
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The battery will start. Some of the tools for the TPMS units will tell you the battery strength on the TPMS sensor itself that’s in the tire. But I don’t know, John, that all of them do that. Rule of thumb is they’re good for about seven years.
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Okay, okay. Well, good. I was just curious because I’m thinking, you know, I’m pricing out some tires and then another $200 for TPSs? Mm-hmm. Jeez, oh, Pete. Okay.
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Right.
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All right. Good show, guys.
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No, great question. No, great question. I appreciate you asking that, and that kind of goes back to my comment earlier on the – RFID chips that are now in tires, which I did not know they were doing. And I learned something, and again, one of you as a listener sent that to me, which I appreciate you doing, because I did not know they were doing that. But a lot of tires now, and in this particular case, this is Michelin, they’re actually putting RFID chips in the tires, and they’re doing that for several reasons. And no, it’s not so much that they’re tracking you and where you’re at. It’s more of they’re tracking… the tire itself. And it will tell you on the side of the tire if it has an RFID chip in the tire or not. An RFID chip, for those of you maybe that don’t know, that’s a radio frequency identification. They can use that in tracking. It’s much like air tags and things like that and how they work. They’re sending out a signal that certain cell phones will pick up and it’ll tell you where certain things are at. You can track, for example, when you’re flying, where’s your luggage if you put one inside of it and on and on we go so that’s how those are working and and they’re becoming more increasingly handy for all sorts of things uh but when it comes to tires i did not know that they were doing that but they are in fact they’re putting these in i’m reading the article right now they’re incorporating this into millions of new commercial and passenger tires over the following two years the tags allow the tire to be tracked through its life cycle from manufacturing to disposal and then recycling so they’re going to track that tire all the way through. I don’t know exactly what they’re trying to learn with this. It doesn’t really say in here on that end of things. It’s more, I think, of a logistical thing where they’re trying to figure out exactly where are these tires going, what’s happening with them, how long are they lasting maybe. I mean, at the end of the day, I don’t know exactly what they’re doing. But my gut feeling is, and this article talks about this, if this ends up being successful for one of them, you’ll start seeing this on all of them, meaning every tire you buy will be tracked.
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How long does that tag last?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that’s a great question. I’m guessing in this case they figure it lasts the lifetime of the tire, so I don’t know exactly how that technology is working. I could probably get in and study it, but that’s a little bit above my pay grade. I don’t know exactly how they’re doing that and what their life cycle expectation of that actually is.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know what an average tire lifespan is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, for me… depending upon the car it’s on, I might actually age out the tire before it actually gets replaced and worn out. It just depends on the car and what I’m driving. Now, on my fleet sides of things, oh, man, in that case, I mean, we’ll roll through tires every, depending upon the driver of the truck and how it’s being used and so on, anywhere from, you know, 25,000 to 40,000 miles, depending upon the truck.
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In a short period of time.
SPEAKER 08 :
In a couple of years’ time frame, in some cases, or less. Maybe even 18 months or so, depending upon the truck. So… And, again, some of the commercial operators out there, they’re buying tires annually probably in some cases. So, again, I don’t know what this information is going to do or how they’re going to use it. I don’t know exactly how that’s going to come back into play. Are they going to use this to try to figure out how to make tires last longer or where do these tires actually end up? What landfill are they going to? So on and so forth. I don’t know. I just know this was an article that one of you guys wrote. sent me which again I appreciate I read all the things that you guys send me I may not talk about it on air but I actually do read about it and then and then on top of that you got to start wondering this kind of comes back to Paul’s sides of things you know what other types of tracking will insurance companies start to do along those lines to determine a lot of factors when it comes to insuring vehicles and so on I mean they’ve talked about the discounts with you know theft with OnStar and all the other stuff that’s out there there’s just
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It’s all done by – all the discounts right now are just strictly done by VIN numbers. Okay. That VIN number tells them exactly what’s there. So people that say, well, I’ve got LoJack or I do this or I do that, it’s not like a homeowner’s where you’re subscribing to that service and you’re paying for it and you got proof of it. I think the automobile, there’s just – They just, it’s not good.
SPEAKER 08 :
One question comes up quite a bit, and I’m glad you just triggered something for me to, reminded me to ask you. And I get this question periodically, and my answer back is you need to check with your own carrier to find out exactly how they do this. But do dash cams give you any kind of a discount worth using with?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, the big discount now you’re starting to see all the carriers go to is downloading the app so they can monitor your driving. Okay. You don’t have to, but like some of the companies… Geez, I don’t want to do that. But some of the companies you’re talking, it could be a couple hundred bucks a year per car. Really?
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s one company, they put something on the inside of the windshield to track the car.
SPEAKER 13 :
You can do that too. But like I tell people… I’ll scare them to death. Where it’s good, it’s bad, because if they’re going to give you something, they’re going to easily take it away. Yeah. So you did X, Y, and Z, now we’re going to charge you 50 bucks more a month.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you’re looking for stuff that it’s just not going to end well. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Jeff in Montana, you’re next. Go ahead, Jeff.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, good morning, Jeff. Good morning. Yeah, when I heard you talking about RFID chips, I had to call in because… It’s not like an AirTag. An RFID chip is just a chip they put in. It has no power to it. It has to be interrogated by a device.
SPEAKER 08 :
I see.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. You have a reader that goes out and sends. It’s checking. It’s like if you have a dog that’s been chipped.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. That makes sense. Okay. Perfect.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. So they put a reader over it. The reader has a low-level electromagnetic field. It detects a chip. That sends back some information. It’s basically a receipt. An electronic receipt is all it is. You know, your passport’s having them now, so they can tell it’s your passport, that sort of thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they’re going to have to get near the tire to actually read anything about that tire.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, and I don’t know what the distance is. I can’t remember, but it’s measured in feet. It’s not measured in miles. I guess somebody could drive by your car and read your tire RFID chips and find out what that is. okay, they’re going to know who the manufacturer was.
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Yeah, I guess that’s the other question I have, Jeff, is given what you’re saying, makes total sense, by the way, and I appreciate the clarification. So I’m assuming that whenever they read that tire, they’re really just going to pick up some of the, like a dog chip, they’re going to pick up some initial information that was put into the chip. But it’s not… recording where it’s been and where it’s traveled and who’s owned it or anything along those lines. It’s literally just going to pick up most likely what? The manufacturer’s information they stuck onto the chip initially?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think so. I think what happens, and maybe you have somebody from a tire store call in, but I think all they do is when they scan, if I go to discount tires, say, and they install the tires. They’d scan them. They record that information on my account, and now they know what tires I bought when. And next time I come in, they double-check and say, oh, yeah, those are the tires. He hasn’t swapped anything out. I see.
SPEAKER 08 :
That makes sense, too. Yeah, for the warranty sides of things, I could see that. But I guess where some might get concerned, this isn’t tracking the tires as much as it’s just recording and keeping track of the information the manufacturer put in there initially.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it was programmed with some information initially when it was put in the tire, and that can’t be changed. It’s not like they’re going to update it and say, okay, yeah, now we know that he’s moved to Montana from Colorado. I see. Discount might know that in their system, but the tire won’t know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I see. All it’s going to know is whatever that manufacturer put in initially, maybe… When it was made, the time of day it was made, other factors involved in that, when it maybe got shipped. I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know what all that means. They have to put whatever’s in there initially. To your point, they’re not changing that that I know of. Anyways, this article didn’t say anything in there about them changing that. Typically, what you’re saying is that’ll just be an embedded chip in the tire that will have that embedded information. And that’s just what it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Would it help with their inventory system?
SPEAKER 08 :
Could, yeah. It could even help with inventory and such, where instead of having to go look at different sizes of tires and so on, I guess you could just theoretically, Jeff, walk up to a tire, scan it, and know exactly what it is, its side, when it was made, and so on.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think that’s probably one of the double checks when you’re putting tires on. They pull stuff off rack and maybe get it wrong. So a technician would double check by scanning and go, yeah, that’s a tire you ordered.
SPEAKER 08 :
In that case, and I could see, by the way, everything you’re talking about, I could see lots of advantages to that being on not only tires but all sorts of other parts as well. And I guess we’ll see how this rolls out. I don’t know what kind of cost this adds to the tire. I’m guessing, Jeff, you buy tires. millions of these things, they’re probably pennies when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 15 :
The RFID chip, I’m sure it’s less than a penny. I mean, it’s just, you know, they crank them out by the millions, and the cost of the chip itself is…
SPEAKER 08 :
minuscule compared to the cost of the tire i guess the i guess the bigger question this is probably where some of the big brother folks listening are probably thinking is okay get what you guys are saying fully understand can see how it would control you know quality inventory all of that but i guess the next question would be providing they can’t update that chip as it’s out in the field saying yep you know kent owns this and yes now he is in montana yeah i uh
SPEAKER 15 :
They probably do make programmable RFID chips. I haven’t kept up on the technology, but I don’t know why a manufacturer would want to do that. All they’re trying to do is keep track of their tires. As far as I know, the NSA has not contracted with tires to track Americans across the country. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the point of what you’re saying is that’d be really hard to do because you physically are going to have to be within a certain distance of that tire to even read what it’s saying. So the way I look at it is more along the lines of what you’re talking about. It’s going to be more for quality control, making sure the right tire is going on the right car. Those tires were ordered for inventory. checking and i guess at some point jeff maybe end of life to say okay this is a tire we made you know february 7th of 2026 and it’s now you know july 31st of 2030 you know how long did that tire last that kind of a thing right and if it’s more than 10 years you know is it safe pull it off right right we’re already still the better stuff and if you just kind of again i’m i’m
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m suspicious of everything, but I try to have a proper suspicion. And anymore, if you have credit cards or debit cards in your wallet, they’re chipped. And if you can wave it at a device rather than insert it with a chip, it’s got an RFID chip in it. And so when you take your card and you put it in the gas station and pass it by the reader, it’s reading your chip to make sure it knows everything about you. But, you know, And you can protect that by putting them in the electromagnetic sleeves.
SPEAKER 08 :
Like a mini Faraday bag, basically.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I mean, I have a, what’s it called, passport card for Canada and Mexico. And that came in a little sleeve. Right. Electromagnetic sleeve that protects it from being red. Right. And you have special wallets that give you RFID protection for the cards that are in there. They have a thin layer of metal, you know. There’s all sorts of ways to protect if you’re worried. But in the end, I think it’s very innocuous on tires.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I would agree with you. Well, I appreciate that. Thanks. That’s much better clarification. Probably makes people feel better about that. So the advantages from what I’m like you, I’m always a little bit leery of some of this stuff. But I think from what you’re saying, the advantages outweigh any disadvantages there would be.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I think the advantage is for the company internally in terms of inventory control and management and stuff. It’s not for the government trying to keep track.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it eliminates mistakes from people writing things down wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I’ve never transposed digits.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, never, huh? Me neither. Not one time, Jeff.
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
All righty. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate that very much. No, that’s great information, and I appreciate you calling in and giving us that info. Somebody sent me a Best Car commercial was one of the ones back in the day, which you really can’t mention his name much anymore, but it was still a good commercial. Those were the old Hertz, OJ Simpson, you know, car commercials, and there’s other ones he did as well. So don’t mention his name a whole lot anymore, but his commercials actually were pretty good back in the day. All right, that’s the question of the day. Best car commercials? Let us know what those are. Myself, Larry Unger, answering phones, of course. Charlie Grimes is our engineer. Paul LeMuger with us today, as well as Kent Hilferty from Novus Sterling. We’ll be back here in just one moment, guys. Lines are open 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in. Again, any insurance questions at all, please let us know. Paul Lumber with us today, 303-477-5600. Again, Kent from Novus Autoglass is here as well. We’ll talk about Autoglass and different things there and the changes that are always happening in that world, and they’re immense. Now, really quick, Paul, and it’s one of the things we talk about every time you’re on, but when it comes to insurance, in the majority of Not our listeners, because they’re solid, responsible individuals, but because of Colorado law, most people are underinsured.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, 38%.
SPEAKER 1 :
38%.
SPEAKER 08 :
So four out of ten cars around you are underinsured.
SPEAKER 13 :
Or no insurance at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or none.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, there’s just no checks and balances, and most people, by price… So it’s $25,000, $50,000, $15,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, that’s our minimums in Colorado, $25,000, $50,000, and $15,000.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, so that’s bodily injury. So you get at fault in an accident, and you’re the one that I hit you, and it’s you and your wife, and I’m going to pay $25,000 for you and $25,000 for her, and that’s it. And it’s $50,000 total for the claim. That doesn’t go very far. And then the $15,000 is property damage.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s nothing.
SPEAKER 13 :
So you’re driving a brand-new Mercedes. Jeez.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, a bumper’s that much.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I’m driving a truck, and I rear-end you. It’s crazy how many people get in accidents, and they turn around and call Fred LaJoy or Geico or one of those, and it’s like they don’t have insurance, but their ID card was valid, or they don’t have enough insurance, and then you’re filing it through your own company.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so what do you have to have on your side of the fence to be made whole when that’s all said and done? Uninsured motorist or what? How does that work?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, as long as you have full coverage, you have to have comp and collision. If you’ve got liability only and you don’t have uninsured motorist property damage, then you’re SOL.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re on your own as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, but you want to make sure you’ve got, you know, at least $250,000, $500,000, $100,000 for property damage, you know. I tell people all the time, carry the best coverage you can and offset it with carrying higher deductibles because that’s the stuff you control. Right, right. You know, comp and collision, you know, go up to $1,000 or go up to $1,500 because you know what it’s going to cost to fix your car because that’s what you’re out of pocket. But I don’t know what it’s going to cost to fix you if I hurt you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Makes sense. Paul in Wyoming, you’re next. Go ahead, Paul.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning.
SPEAKER 04 :
I have a quick question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was told by my insurance agent, I think, that if I have an accident by an uninsured motorist and I don’t have collision on that vehicle, they’re not going to pay uninsured motorists insurance. Is that a norm or is that maybe to particular my insurance company?
SPEAKER 13 :
He’s right by what he’s telling you. You have to have collision. But if you don’t have collision, you can have uninsured motorist property damage, which then you’d have like $150 or $250 deductible. And that covers you if somebody hits you and doesn’t have enough insurance or doesn’t have any insurance. Okay. But if it’s a hit and run, you have no coverage at all because that line item only pertains to uninsured motorists. I see. Right. But you have to be present to know they didn’t have insurance and whatever, right? And you have to have a denial letter from them saying they don’t have any insurance or they don’t have enough to fix your car.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, see, what happened was, now I remember the whole story. A friend of mine got hit by an unlicensed… minor. And they, because he didn’t have a collision on the car, I’ll just, because it was so old, they wouldn’t pay anything. And maybe I don’t have all the
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I think what you’re saying, from my understanding, is if he didn’t have collision on his car, and even in this case, an uninsured minor runs into his car, he’s on his own. Yeah, he’s writing a check for that because he has no coverage at that point, period.
SPEAKER 13 :
Unless he, if he still had the uninsured motorist… Property damage, which is what you always carry with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I thought, and you’re the expert on this, I’m not, I thought you couldn’t get that unless you had collision on your car in the first place. In other words, I didn’t think you could buy uninsured motorist collision unless you have collision on your car.
SPEAKER 13 :
That takes place of the collision. So if I’ve got a 1984 Honda and I want liability only, I can buy… uninsured motorist property damage.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because if I have full coverage, I don’t need that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I see. Okay, I did not know that. So you can buy that as a separate policy in that case where you want liability only, but you still want to be covered if somebody runs into you, you can buy uninsured motorist collision coverage. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
And in this situation, we don’t know enough to know if… If he had it and maybe the kid didn’t have it, you don’t know the… The parameters. Yeah. The details.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think also it was illegal, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that wouldn’t make any difference one way or the other. The reality is it’s uninsured, uninsured, uninsured. It doesn’t matter if they came from Mars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Okay, okay. That didn’t make any difference. Thank you, Joe. No, great question, and I just learned something.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, thank you, Paul. I appreciate you very much. Thanks for listening, and I just learned something from you, Paul. I was under the—I don’t know why this was. I was under the impression, I think a lot of people are, that— You can buy uninsured motorist coverage, and that’s covering medical and other things that would happen if, in fact, somebody runs into you and doesn’t have insurance. And then I was under the impression that the only way I get my car fixed is my own collision coverage is covering that. I didn’t know I could do liability only and then buy uninsured motorist collision coverage. I was not aware of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, because when you have full coverage, it doesn’t matter what happens. You’re covered, period.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Whether you use your insurance or you don’t want to use your insurance, you’ve got that back coverage. But if you’re an older car…
SPEAKER 08 :
And you want liability only, but you want to protect yourself against somebody else running into you, you can buy that uninsured motorist collision coverage.
SPEAKER 13 :
And it’s $7, $8. It’s cheap because it’s only a small, small percentage you’re going to be able to use it. If it’s hit and run, can’t use it. I see. They’ve got to have their insurance. It’s a long process, but at least you’re covered.
SPEAKER 08 :
I see.
SPEAKER 13 :
For the what ifs.
SPEAKER 08 :
I did not know that. I’m learning something on that because I was not aware that that was the way that worked. Now, here’s a question, too, I think most people always have, too, is you have an accident. An uninsured motorist hits you. You’ve got all of your coverage on your end. Are you nicked down the road for a claim on that, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, because you’re not at fault.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I tell people all the time, it’s better… If they’ve got GEICO and you know they’re going to have low levels or state minimums, go through your own insurance and let them fight for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, let them subrogate.
SPEAKER 13 :
Let them go to subrogate and arbitration and get their money. You’re out your deductible in the beginning, but to go that route and then find out they don’t have enough coverage… Then you’re going backwards to get it. Let your insurance take care of it all because they’re going to go fix your car, minus your deductible, pay it all out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Then they’re going to go back against all of that and hopefully get your deductible even back, right? Well, let them do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s what you pay them for.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, thank you. You’ve paid them in your policy and your premium. Go ahead and let them handle that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you’re out your deductible, but you’re not out three weeks of fighting tooth and nail just to get your car fixed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there a chance of getting your deductible back if they can collect that from the other company or no?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, but they have to go through and do that. Unfortunately, the deductible is the last piece. If it is $2,500 worth of damage plus your $500 deductible and they get $2,000 back, they’re getting their money back first and your deductible is the last piece. Okay, good to know. But it’s not a claim against you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, good to know. Those of you that have questions, again, like I just did, please ask. 303-477-5600. The glass piece of this is another big portion when it comes to insurance and so on. We’ll answer that here just as soon as we come back. Don’t go anywhere. We’re going to take a quick break. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are Backdrive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it greatly. Paul Leuenberger with us today, our resident insurance expert, my broker as well, plus Kent Hilferty from Novus Auto Glass up in Sterling. So let’s talk glass for just a moment. In fact, I had a question for you. I think I may know the answer, Kent, but I’ll throw it at you anyway. Somebody sent a picture in of their windshield, and, of course, it’s all sandblasted, and the question is, can anything be done about that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Only thing you can do at that point is change it. Put a new one in. Put a new one in.
SPEAKER 08 :
I like that. Because you’re not getting those out, are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you can’t. There’s too many pits in it, and you can’t buff it out, so it’s time to change it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And if you live in Colorado, you will get that way sooner or later.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, and that’s just the nature of what it is, right? And eventually it gets to the point where, and this is where it gets kind of interesting, eventually it gets to the point where you don’t realize how bad it is until you put a new one in. That’s right. Just a little at a time it gets pitted up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Makes it hard to see at night. The wipers don’t work as well. True. So just change it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and really quick, along those lines, too, I’ve had people over the years say, well, you know, you can do this, you can do that, you can buff some of those out, this, that. Folks, trust me, I have been down that path. I have tried everything you possibly can to try to smooth things uh that window out or even a side window or whatever there are very few if any products i’ve ever seen that actually do anything at the end of the day that eliminate the things that we’re talking about you’re in the glass business you would know this there’s nothing you can do and it becomes economics i mean it’s cheaper to change it after a while
SPEAKER 05 :
And it is a wearable item. They do wear out after time because of the sand pits or they get rock chips. And just change it and drive it again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Now, going back to the insurance sides of things. where some have glass coverage with deductibles, some don’t. In fact, we were talking even before coming on air, some of you that actually buy cars, you buy a new car, they may at the time of the sale offer you glass coverage on the car that you can buy independent from what you’re doing, right, Paul? Yeah. Explain how that works, if you would.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve never, with what I’ve done, I’ve had clients go in and buy brand new Subarus or whatever, car they’re buying and they’ll offer them like kind of like a seven year warranty or five year warranty on that windshield or on all the glass i should say and you just got to kind of weigh it out that’s i was asking you guys earlier you know you can add glass coverage on your auto policy with a zero dollar deductible for all glass windshields back window side windows all that stuff but you know if you’re going to pay four hundred dollars a year for that coverage You know, you’ve got three, four, five years of not needing it. Well, are you better off, you know, taking that money, putting it in the bank, and not using it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And just make sure if you buy that extra policy, some of them are double insured. You’ve got your normal car insurance that covers the glass. Then you buy something from the dealer. So you’re double insured, and only one of them is going to pay for the windshield if you have damage.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, if you’ve got glass coverage, you need to weigh it out. Is it cheaper to do it through insurance, or is it cheaper to go through the manufacturer? Or is it cheaper just to pocket the money and not do any of it?
SPEAKER 08 :
And just self-insure like I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Self-insure. Play the odds. You may change one every two or three years.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s what I do.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m that guy. And part of that’s because I just learned a long time ago I can save more money by doing it that way. Steve in the Springs, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good morning, John and Paul.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds like the Apostle Group there, John. Paul, we’re just doing a couple more. That’s us. Anyway, Paul, I left a message for you. I’m doing a quote since you’re now a broker on all the stuff that American National wouldn’t. So you get a chance to call me on that. My question was this. This is just really egregious. I think I’ve talked about it with John before, but this business of getting a parking lot ding, particularly when another person won’t even disclose their driver’s license and insurance, and then your insurance comes along and totals the car for like a $2,400 rear bumper ding. And then I come to find out they sell the car and part it up and make 20% over book value. That’s got to stop.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. No, I mean, you’re right. That’s where, again, we talk. In fact, today’s drive rate of the extra mile, Burke Payne joins me from BP Appraisals, which the name is – how do I want to say this? It’s an accurate name, but Burt will do a lot more for you than just appraisal. He literally will go to bat for you with the different insurance companies on total losses, on – you know, diminished value, things like that. He does a lot of what you’re talking about and goes to bat for you and does your work for you, basically.
SPEAKER 03 :
Like a public adjuster on a house?
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s exactly right. Thank you. And I talk about that in the program today, Steve. Literally, he’s like a public adjuster for your car.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. And then I guess mostly for Paul. But on roofs, these kind of things have gotten so expensive, like over a very short period of years, 11, 12 grand to now 26, 28 grand. I don’t care what kind of roof it is. But I don’t want anybody up on that roof. Between high caliber drone photos and set photos, you don’t need anybody on that roof. Just my personal opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can’t argue with you on that. I think, depending upon the roof, and I think Dave would tell you, there’s certain roofs you don’t want to be on in the first place, and you can do it exactly the way you’re talking, Steve. I’m not disagreeing at all. I think you’re completely correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
The last thing, and I know, Paul, you kind of addressed this, but it took me a long time into adulthood with a lot of different properties to figure out how in the heck this is going on with insurance companies. And they usually, I don’t know any really agents to disclose the clue database, which is a Cassidy loss underwriting experience, which of course is available to every agent, any company. And of course they treat it like proprietary, like this doesn’t belong to the consumer, even though it’s their data. So people need to be aware of, There is this huge, huge database. Yep. Data mining their information, but the insurance companies treat it as their proprietary information. Don’t even disclose to customers there is a clue database, much less give a report. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s been that way for eons. I know on the commercial side we call it loss run. It’s the same thing you’re talking about on the home side, homeowner side, I should say. Excuse me. Yeah. For everybody listening, that information has been around the insurance world, Steve, now for decades.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that’s just how they rate you.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s been that way forever.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s your fingerprint. Most people don’t know it. Most people don’t know it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, yeah. No, you’re right. Most people don’t, unless you’ve been in the business world like I have, and you understand how insurance works there. Yeah, most people have no clue that’s being done. But as Paul just stated, Steve, it literally is your fingerprint when it comes to insurance. That’s exactly what it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. One quick last item. We just got a few days ago, the disparity… bag operations from Amazon, two for 15 bucks. Oh, nice. Nice. Your key pop, your key pop, it’s in there. Yep. Your credit cards, looks pretty nice, too. Good job. But I’m just thinking, for a promo, for people, like, in your business, the auto service business, You get these little deals. They’re kind of cool looking. You imprint your logo. Yeah, great idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s always going to be your company.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, great idea, Steve.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And Paul, for you too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. No, it’s a great idea. I love it. I like that, Steve. Great idea. All right. Thanks, man. Appreciate it very much. And hang on. Text message just came in a minute ago for Paul. Somebody said, Mike says hi in Littleton. So, Mike, thank you, by the way. We appreciate that. And then last question, back to the pitted windshield, and this is for both of you. Does insurance cover replacement of just a pitted windshield, not one that’s broken?
SPEAKER 13 :
From what I’ve seen, they don’t. No, that’s maintenance.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So if you’re just so pitted up, I don’t know, does a ball-peen hammer help?
SPEAKER 05 :
Sometimes. I didn’t say that. Most of the time, yeah, they won’t cover that kind of coverage. If it’s cracked or damaged enough where it’s not safe, they’ll usually cover it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And somebody else also texting and talking about the sandblasting on the windshield and so on. And yeah, I mean, it doesn’t matter where you live, by the way, folks. This person happens to be in Nebraska where Kent’s from. Again, it doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, there’s debris, things that are on the road, stuff that blows onto it. things that happen during the winter time, things that fall off of other cars and so on. Yeah, you’re going to get, you know, the air is dirtier than you think. It’s, by the way, why we use air filters on engines, because even though the air might look really clean, it’s not. There are fine particulates in it that will destroy the inside of an engine, by the way. It’s why every engine that runs, other than some racing engines where that’s super clean and they don’t run an air filter at that point. But that’s a very unique situation. By and large, you’re using an air filter on an engine because of what we’re talking about, meaning as you’re driving down the road at 65, 75, 80 mile an hour, even depending upon where you’re driving, think about that debris that’s in the air. Yes, that’s all hitting your windshield, and in some cases that debris is heavier at times than others. And, yeah, it is taking the brunt of it, and that’s what’s pitting up that glass. And the glass, even though it seems – and you can talk to this – The glass itself, it’s not as hard as you think.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it’s not. It still pits pretty easy. I mean, it’s fairly hard, but it does…
SPEAKER 08 :
And my point is, if you look at the front end of your car versus your windshield, you would think, well, wait a minute, my windshield looks like this. Why doesn’t the front of the car look like that? Because believe it or not, the paint and the clear coat, and if you do any kind of PPF protection, that’s actually stronger than the windshield is itself, meaning the glass is softer than the other components I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you can still find some damage on the paint around that area, the front of the car.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can. But my point being, people think that glass is stronger than some of your other components on the vehicle. No, actually, it’s not. It’s actually softer than you think it is. That’s the other question that comes up. We’ve got a minute left here. Are there differences in qualities of the glass itself, Kent? And maybe you want to answer this now or come back and answer it. But are there differences in qualities of the glass? Because I hear that all the time from people. They just don’t make glass like they used to.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s all the same quality. It all has to meet government requirements for safety standards, so it’s pretty much made the same way. Sometimes you find a lesser quality one that might be shaped a little different, but overall they have to meet the same requirements for strength.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the glass itself, you’re not going to see one manufacturer have a harder glass than another and things along those lines. In other words, that OEM glass isn’t any harder than the aftermarket glass you went and bought because, no offense, the OEM is not making that glass anyway. It’s all the same. Somebody, PPG or Pilkington or somebody is making it for the OEM anyways, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
They contract with the manufacturers to make it for them.
SPEAKER 08 :
It just has the Ford or the Ram or whatever logo on it is the only difference. It’s the only difference. Okay. All right, guys, we’ll be back here. We’ve got another two hours coming your way. Questions, again, whether it’s glass, whether it’s insurance, we’ve got lines open. And, of course, any regular car questions, we can handle that as well. Trust me, we can answer all your questions, not a problem. Give us a call, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 09 :
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