In this riveting episode of Rush to Reason, Dr. Scott Faulkner and guests dive deep into the world of peptides and stem cell therapy. Learn about the fascinating science behind cellular senescence and the groundbreaking treatments aimed at targeting zombie cells in the body. Discover how omega-3s, vitamin D, and even nicotine patches play a role in promoting health and longevity.
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Welcome back, listeners, to Hour 3. Dr. Scott Faulkner with Jeremy Sova to my right, expert biohacker, Josh Gardner, expert in peptides, and Regina Nabrit, who I told you guys is an expert in everything. So if you missed the first couple hours, if you’re just hopping in your car, heading home, one, be safe. Two, pray for our troops and our president. Three, go back and listen because you guys missed a lot of really good information, Hours 1 and 2. Just to give you a quick recap, we were talking about cellular senescence to begin with. Those are the zombie cells. Like in the movies, you don’t want zombies around. Well, guess what? You’ve got them in your body. So we gave you a lot of tips on how to get rid of zombie cells out of your system. Some things are very simple, like taking the fisetin or eating strawberries, apples, cucumbers. the quercetin, which is in apples and onions, the theoflavones in black tea, apigenin or parsley. These things all help get rid of your zombie cells, omega-3s, vitamin D, that sort of stuff. And remember that we honed in on the generic senescent cells, zombie cells. But if you go back to last month, Jeremy and I were talking about the microglia in your brains. So the microglia were the cells that gobble up zombie cells and clear them out of the system. And we were talking about how in every disease, the Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, Lou Gehrig’s, multiple sclerosis, we see that the M2 microglia, which is the good – think of them like the little girl Pac-Man. Everybody likes her, right? And then they can convert to M1, the nasty, pro-inflammatory, ugly guy. So Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And some of the simple things that we taught you where you can actually reverse that M1. So if you have a loved one with Alzheimer’s or maybe you have the gene for it, but remember it’s the epigenetics that tells you are you going to get it. So there’s things that are modifiable. And things that will take the M1 microglia, move it back to M2, are things like your brain-derived neurotrophic factor, which Josh is going to talk about his story here in a second. Nicotine patches. Yes, nicotine patches. So I would get a 7 milligram. Somebody told me they’re over-the-counter because I’m used to writing prescriptions for everything. But put a nicotine patch, and that helps. The ACE receptor blockers, Candasartan or Telmasartan, are great at taking M1 back to M2. Simvastatin, Jeremy, your old statin, so it’s not a hardcore, oh, I’m totally against statins. Actually, in some cases, statins can actually be good for you. Yeah, stay tuned for next month’s Clotho longevity protein talk. Yeah. And it’s a lot like the metformin. So at first, right, metformin was good, good for diabetics. And then we’re like, oh, you shouldn’t be taking metformin. Now we’re back to in the right circumstances. And the last thing, believe it or not, is melatonin. Something as simple and it’ll help you sleep because right is made naturally by the pineal gland in your brain. So these things are actually good for you. So something to consider. Keep in mind, they’re cheap. You can do these easily. But we wanted to give Josh a chance to talk about his journey and peptides. And then if you can talk about the MOTC, people, MOTC is M-O-T-S-C. That’s why we call it MOTC. The CJC epimeralin, SS31. People are like, oh, my gosh, what are all these acronyms? I can’t keep them straight. That’s why we tell you don’t try and write it down while you’re driving. Listen to the podcast again and then write it down.
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Yeah, and ask Dr. Scott about it when you go to your free consultation. He’ll tell you all the acronyms and what you need to know. My story starts back in college. I’m fairly young, still in my mid-20s, but my journey with peptides didn’t even start with peptides. It started with fasting. And And fasting kind of has a stigma around it because everybody wants to eat food and nobody likes to feel hungry, right? And so I had the same kind of approach at first. I was like, that sounds silly. So what I started doing was I would eat at 5 o’clock. I’d eat the whole day. I eat all Monday, right? And I stopped eating at five and I wouldn’t eat until Tuesday at five o’clock. And it sounds hard, but you know, a third of the time you’re sleeping and you just get up and you don’t eat and you power through your day. And so that was kind of my journey to health, um, which quickly unraveled into a Joe Rogan podcast, which talked about peptides were, you know, this is seven years ago, um, and healing injuries and I’d played sports growing up. I was very active throughout school. Went to school in Bozeman, Montana. So skiing is a religion out there. And so if you can’t ski, what are you going to do in the winter? Well, I was getting to that point where injuries were piling up and it was, wasn’t looking good for me. So I started to look at alternative routes to, um, surgery. I come from a holistic household where we’re more Eastern medicine than Western medicine. Um, so surgery for me was never really even an option and discovered BPC 157 and TB 500, or what we call now Wolverine blend. And that was kind of my introduction to peptides after I, um, healed disc herniations, torn rotator cuffs, meniscus damage, and started to see overall inflammation in my body and day-to-day things that I was struggling with that I shouldn’t have been as a young 20-year-old guy. Um, once I started seeing those day-to-day tasks getting easier and easier, and I was able to enjoy the active lifestyle I was used to, um, I was hooked, um, didn’t know that there was going to be a career, um, but knew I was going to be involved with it, um, you know, throughout my life in terms of healing myself and my family, um, and just, you know, close friends and, you know, Fast forward seven years, it is now my career, and it’s so incredible to be in a place where we’re on the cutting edge of medicine. Every week, there’s new information coming out about things that peptides can, you know… potentially heal or um different ways to use them appropriately all sorts of stuff to kind of not have to do the traditional medicine route so that’s kind of my intro to peptides um if you’re anything like me um you’re like where do you start right and i think now um Um, mitochondrial dysfunction is the easiest and best place to start when it comes to peptides. Once you fix that, a lot of the other stuff is so much easier to fix. And this goes for, you know, the people who are on GLPs and you might not see that your body’s reacting like you thought it would, or like others have, you’re not shedding the weight, all these things. Well, you might be metabolically unhealthy. And so your body can’t process the fat properly or even use the peptide to its full potential. And so a great starting place is these mitochondrial peptides, these MOTC SS31 growth hormone secretagogues to help with repair and sleep and, um, the overall strength and, you know, vitality of your body. Sleep is huge. I hear that every single day. It’s the most important thing that we’re talking about. It all comes, you know, that’s when you heal, right? So if you can’t repair your body, um, it doesn’t matter what you put in or do for it. You’re not going to get the full benefits. So, um, kind of go over going over MOTC and SS 31. I throw those into the same category. Um, ultimately what those are, are mitochondria targeting peptides. And specifically, you know, what SS 31 does is it targets something called cardiolipin. And that’s this almost inner membrane of your mitochondria that is very easily damaged. And when you have oxidative stress in your life, your, um, cardio lip and suffers, which means your mitochondria aren’t functioning properly, which means you are dealing with, you know, sluggish behavior, um, uh, like I said, oxidative stress, inflammation in the body, poor sleep, poor exercise. And when you kind of target the mitochondria to start with, you start getting that ATP uptake. And we talked about NAD earlier. You start reducing some of the oxidative stress and protecting the mitochondria from damage. That’s ultimately the foundation of What’s going to lead to as overall health and your peptide journey is once your body on a mitochondrial level is functioning properly, all these other issues are going to be so much easier to tackle, which would bring us into CJC epimoralin or tesamoralin. These are these growth hormone secretogogs. They’re phenomenal. As you age, your growth hormone production that night starts to decrease significantly. So it’s something everybody over the age of 30 should be supplementing into their life. Not only are they going to sleep better, their workouts are going to be better. If you take them when you’re on a GLP, there’s studies that show that things like osteoarthritis and these bone diseases and stuff you’re getting from malnutrition start to dwindle. Um, ultimately it all comes back to how well can you get your body to function and how much is your body repairing when you’re sleeping? And it’s why, you know, it’s why kids sleep so much. It’s because their bodies are growing and they need, they need to repair them.
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Yeah. My son’s aura ring. We looked at the chrono chronotype as compared to mine, and it’s not possible because of their school schedules. but at 15 years old he’s supposed to go to sleep around 11 p.m and sleep till about 8 30 a.m so they do need more sleep at that age so hopefully society can adjust to that over time and to your point earlier the mitochondria mitochondria mitochondria paired with eliminating inflammation if we could oversimplify everything for the listeners power the mitochondria eliminate the inflammation Everything else will fall into line. And when your mitochondria are struggling, there’s no amount of caffeine or motivation or pushing through that’s going to fix the problem. Real energy starts at the cellular level.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday, first Wednesday of every month. If you want to know Jeremy and I’s schedule, Jeremy, like you said, you’re chained to the chair, so you’re not going anywhere.
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At least we haven’t had winter yet, so that’s good.
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Yeah, we had an inch of it last night. Want to talk about telomere length. I know we hit peptides hard, but we need a segue into telomere length. You’ve already touched on what is a telomere. So those are the protective end caps on your chromosomes. The goal is to lengthen those.
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The longer they are, the longer you live, and the longer you live a healthy life. And on that point, before we pivot, I’m going to let Josh talk about how peptides can help lengthen the telomeres. There you go.
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It’s a great segue. You know, like they touched on, telomeres have direct correlation to age-related illness and healthspan. And now I like that we call it healthspan and not lifespan because there’s a huge difference. Oh, yeah. And so two targeting, you know, two fundamental foundations for aging are telomere shortening and tissue degeneration. So both things can be easily addressed with one specific peptide called epithelin. And, you know, its primary role in the body is telomere maintenance with that. Um, there’s going to be some other awesome, we call them, I wouldn’t call them side effects, but you know, um, cause they’re, they’re good, but they are side effects or can be good. Um, effects really.
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Yeah. Totally. Yeah. It’s like the GLPs, right? Decreased heart attacks, strokes, inflammation, Alzheimer’s. So those are side effects, but they’re good side effects. Yes.
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Yes. So along with that telomere lengthening, um, you’re also going to have, you know, increased pineal gland function. You’re going to have a reset of circadian rhythm. And we touch on this before the break of how important sleep really is and having a proper circadian rhythm only aids in the recovery that you get from sleep. So that’s a huge benefit from epithelium. Um, and then, um, antioxidant density and how, you know, the defenses that your antioxidants can give to your body. So, um, you know, epithelin, it’s a very easy peptide to use. You use it about two weeks, every six months, and you’re going to use it every day over those two weeks. And then after that, the benefits stay with you for six months to come. So it’s not a peptide that you’re going to have to be on every week. or that’s going to break the bank, it’s super easy to use, you target it at, you know, times of the year, maybe you can target around, you know, summer and summer and winter, when you’re really going through different sleep cycles, you know, due to sun exposure, ultimately. And then its ability to be paired with GHKCU, which we touched on earlier, which is a collagen peptide. And then a wound healing peptide, anti-inflammatory signaling peptide. Um, but ultimately the real benefit comes with the tissue regeneration, right? We talked about age marking or age related marks are telomere shortening and, um, your basically your body’s ability to heal itself. So both of these paired together are going to be a wonderful, and we call it stack, um, you know, a wonderful stack, which is just a fancy term of saying using two peptides together. It’s a wonderful stack to target both anti-aging and also recovery.
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So the epithelium or epithelium, I guess I’m pronouncing it.
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I say epithelium, yeah.
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But tomato, tomato. Totally, yeah. So those you still use in a cold vial with a small diabetic-type needle into the subcutaneous fat every day for two weeks. Correct. But the GHKCU, you can use this new sublingual peptide combination for that stack. So instead of sticking yourself with two needles, you’re only sticking yourself with one. Exactly. And I’m guessing that you guys are on the path of maybe getting epithelon in an oral strip once the chemists figure all that out in the future. But we’re not quite there yet. It’s definitely in the works.
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It’s one of those peptides that is a staple to longevity. So it’s something that we’re actively figuring out how to do. Great. Excuse me. Right now, though, like, you know, like Jeremy mentioned, it does have to be done by injection. But luckily, it’s not one of those things that is going to be a long term. Like we mentioned, you know, it’s two weeks, twice a year.
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And again, it’s not like you’re going into the muscle. This is a really tiny needle into the, you know, pinch your love handle into the belly fat. Done and done. Wipe it with an alcohol swab. Go about your day. Where the intramuscular shots that I do take a little bit of tolerance and, you know, and strength of being able to inject yourself with a 25 gauge needle, which most people don’t enjoy.
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Yeah, so it’s the same technique as the GLP-1s, the Ozempics, Wegovis, if you’re going to give yourself a shot, or Monjaro’s Upbound. It’s a piece of cake. It’s the size of a mosquito bite. Correct. That’s right. And it doesn’t burn like some of the peptides can. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, Jeremy, along other modalities that will give us added telomere length, we know that hyperbaric oxygen therapy is one of those modalities, right? One of my all-time favorites.
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So you guys always hear me talk about get your biomarkers done. I’m going to beat that dead horse for years to come until everybody understands that it’s important to know what’s going on inside your blood and your body. The holy trinity of longevity, regenerative, functional, and what I like to call intelligent aging medicine. is hypobaric oxygen therapy, stem cell, um, umbilical cord stem cell therapy and therapeutic plasma exchange. All this other stuff that we talk about is great. It’s great filler. It’s all necessary. It’s all important, but those three things combined really, really move the needle and And I’m up to 122 dives in the hyperbaric chamber since middle of June. So I did the 60 dives in 90 days at two atmospheres for 90 minutes, which I learned from the Israeli study and from Brian Johnson’s personal protocol. And now I’m on a maintenance of 20 dives every 90 days. And I monitor all of my levels. And I was just talking at the break that at the top of Steamboat Mountain, my blood oxygen was 99% when I was skiing. Two years earlier, when I was with my kids skiing, I would get up around 12,000 feet. I would start to feel a little altitude sickness, turn a little bit gray, need to take breaks. And my blood ox at the time was 84, which is actually pretty low. But considering you’re at that elevation, But you go that low during COVID, they’re sending you to the hospital. So if you hikers that are out there going 14,000 feet, you know, out in God’s country, consider getting yourself one of those two-pound oxygen concentrators for your backpack so you can keep those oxygen levels up. But in the hypobaric oxygen chamber, when you’re at that reverse pressure of two atmospheres for that amount of time, It has reversed my hemoglobin A1C far beyond what just the GLP-1s were doing. My energy, my wound healing, my low back pain, my cognitive ability, and my business acumen, I contribute to those HBOT dives. When I say HBOT, it stands for hypobaric oxygen therapy. And back to the point, it has proven to lengthen your telomeres. So I’ve taken the telomere length test and it’s above average, which is great for my age. And I have turned my age back 16 years biologically in the last five. And then we’re going to see in 90 days where those telomeres are since I’ve done an additional 30 dives and I continue to do so. And I’ll be taking my second regimen of the epithelon coming up here in a couple of weeks, too. So it’ll be an interesting marker to watch. But the data shows, and of course, you know, Brian Johnson’s proved it as well, that the HBOT is one of the best ways to lengthen those telomeres. And telomere length is one of the key hallmarks of aging, one of the 12 that we’ve been talking about.
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Yeah. And for those of you who are engineers listening, you guys love data. You guys keep graphs and charts. When you come in, you just plunk it down on my desk and like, look, doc, what I’ve been doing. This is objective data. We can actually measure your telomeres. So just like I can check your kidney function, your liver function, whatever else with that 110 biomarkers. Here’s another one for you engineers that love data. We can see where you’re at at time zero and then put in a treatment plan, whether it’s hyperbaric or do the epithelon or together, and then we can retest you, typically six months or a year down the road, and show you, oh my gosh, you’re right, my telomeres are lengthening. It’s protecting my DNA because remember, when those telomeres get corrupted, Then you start getting misfolded proteins, and that’s when cancer sets in. That’s right. Yeah. So this is a great way to stave that off. Now, you had mentioned another test called hemoglobin A1C. For those who don’t know what a hemoglobin A1C is, that is a three-month blood sugar average. So it’s better than just a glucose test. So I like to pair the A1C to see what you’re doing over three months with a continuous glucose monitor. The beautiful thing about the continuous glucose monitor, now everybody has seen somebody wearing one, right? It’s the little white thing on the back of your arm when you go through the checkout stand and you’re like, what is that on that person’s arm? It’s a CGM or continuous glucose monitor. And maybe that person’s a diabetic. But in Jeremy and I’s case, we’re doing it because we’re biohackers. I want to know what is my sugar doing pretty much all the time. And more importantly, what foods wreck my body?
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Yep. I did it for six months. I was going to do it for 30 days, but then I just kept learning and learning and learning. So I went a full six months. I use Stello just because it pairs well from Dexcom with my Oura Ring, and it can overlay everything. And you don’t need a prescription. And you don’t need a prescription. But what I found very interesting is I know now why the doctors went from the snapshot of insulin to the A1C over a 90-day period. Because in a 15-minute period while I was waiting in the clinic to get my blood work done, I was watching my glucose monitor. And it went from 107 down to 85 in that 15-minute period. So depending on when the nurse sticks a needle in my arm, If it spikes at the 107, they’re going to think that it’s high. And back in the day, you docs used to say, what, 126 or greater was like diabetes?
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Yeah, 125 or greater is diabetes.
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Well, you break a fast or something takes place, that could be a major misdiagnosis. So now the A1C is better, but after tracking it over six months— I’ve learned that if you avoid seed oils in particular, they’re very, very bad for your blood sugar. The worst food that I’ve found, and I’ve done the data, so I’m sorry, everybody in the Southeast that’s listening, but there’s a reason the Southeastern United States, when you overlay diabetes on the U.S. map, and it’s very heavy from north of Florida up to Tennessee over to the Carolinas, Mississippi, and Arkansas, The number one most toxic food that I have found, corn grits. It is even higher on the list than the seed oils as far as toxicity goes. And I like some grits when I’m down visiting family, but when I saw the data, I will never touch them again in my life. And I can’t tell you as a scientist why, but I have the data showing that it is that bad to the metabolic system. So corn grits and seed oils are… get them out of your life entirely switch to beef tallow you know other whole foods but these seed oils made my my stello glucose monitor spike in dangerous ways for long periods of time and then i learned to biohack um how to keep my glucose more steady and in range consistently and exercise they say you know get up and walk the dog after a meal instead of watching netflix Well, I even nailed it down to 10 power squats in my office is more effective than a 45-minute hike with my dog. So the body using that energy of the body weight of those squats. So after six months, I basically have the ranges dialed, but the hyperbaric oxygen therapy helped, I’m going to say fix, but tweak or improve my pancreas in a way that has made it even further. And now it’s driving down in… to the healthiest ranges that my doctors thought wasn’t possible for me. They thought, okay, well you can hang out at, you know, 5.4 to 5.7 and that’s okay. As long as you don’t get into five, eight plus, but they had no idea that I could drive that number to five, three, five, two. And I, I credit the hyperbaric chamber, um, because it’s the only thing that I added in that could explain why I fixed everything else and still couldn’t get lower. Um, And then, of course, I asked AI and explained to me why the HBOT did it.
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Yeah, I love it. It’s so cool, folks. Your doctor, I promise you, doesn’t know this information. They’re just going to throw pills at you after pill after pill, pat you on the head and say, oh, well, until you have a heart attack and a stroke. And it’s like, oh, guess what? You had a heart attack and stroke. Too bad we couldn’t control your sugars better.
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Yeah, and they’ll throw the GLP at you, which is good. I mean, it’s better than nothing. But they won’t tell you the four other reasons why you should be taking it and why when the A1C is okay, you should still be taking it, microdosing it for four other reasons. That’s right.
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And some of the simple things. Jeremy, you just touched on it. Get rid of the seed oils out of your pantry, ladies. So tonight as you go home, just huck it. Just pitch it in the trash can. Go and get some avocado oil or some walnut oil.
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Extra virgin olive oil is the greatest fat you can put in your body. I take four tablespoons every morning, and I do cook with avocado oil as well. Those are the only two that I will ever touch. But extra virgin olive oil is a part of the Mediterranean diet. can’t be spoken about enough. It is the healthiest fat. It is a very good oil. Don’t let the cardiologists tell you that it’s bad. Even the old school guys, all the other oils. Yeah. Bad for the heart and the arteries. Extra virgin olive oil goes back to the Bible is that’s how important this stuff is. And I do, I take four tablespoons every day.
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Yeah. And that’s an easy thing to do. So we’re a little long in this segment. We better break. When we come back, we’ll keep this going. So Dr. Scott Faulkner, 560 KLZ. We will be right back.
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Welcome back, listeners. This is Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush, 560 KLZ, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Sun’s setting, so be very careful out there. We had a caller call in and talk about NAD, where do you get it, and things like that. So I’m going to have Josh in a minute talk about that. So for those of you who are asking the same question, hold tight. Right now we’re going to talk about one of the other hallmarks of aging. It’s stem cell exhaustion. So, Jeremy, stem cell exhaustion.
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Well, I can’t believe we got through all 12 in two months. We saved the best for last, in my opinion, though, because most doctors that go to medical school learn about stem cells in maybe less than a paragraph or maybe even a couple of sentences in their whole multi-year study. I feel like as a biohacker now, I’m going to forget more about longevity and intelligent aging that most MDs coming out of school are ever going to learn in their life at this point because they’re just told different things for different agendas and different reasons driven by, you know, big pharma and et cetera, et cetera. So stem cell exhaustion, you know, we talk about stem cells, you know, what are they? What do they do? Why do I need them? Where do I need them? What type do I need? And it’s really about the strength of the cells in your body that do all the repair, you know, so by adding umbilical cord derived stem cells. When you flush them through the veins, you get them intravenously, you’re sending them out in a shotgun approach like soldiers to basically repair all the different things that are going on disease-wise in your body. And then what I call rifle shots is when you’re going into a specific ailment. In my case, I fixed my lumbar spine, L4, L5, L5, S1. I fixed a torn iliolumbar ligament. I’ve used peptides that we talked about earlier, you know, to fix a torn labrum. you know, elbows, knees, you know, shoulders, you know, joint pain. So you can target these areas with these specific cells. And doc, I know you got a special that you’ve talked about in the last couple of hours for this weekend only. It’s like a 30% discount, which is Friday and Saturday only.
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Yep.
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And it’s improved, vetted, certified, proven technology. We’ve done our due diligence. I’m like anal retentive when it comes to this stuff because there’s so much bad and bad actors and dead cells and everybody’s selling this stuff online. So I’m absolutely convinced that you have the best source that is derived from the United States of America, which is great because a lot of people are getting them from overseas. And I’m not saying that there’s bad sources overseas. There’s some good ones overseas. But I really do like the oversight of the FDA in certain regenerative areas that are emerging. I’ve had stem cells now for 11 years, several times. So I’m more comfortable than maybe just the average person that wants to walk in and say, well, you know, is it worth the money? Does this stuff work? And I’m a testament. And I’ll put, again, my evidence out here in a couple of months with the study. So, exhausting your stem cells over time, they get older and they get weaker as you age. So, if you’re somebody… Yeah, they really drop off at pretty much 42 and 66 are the two ages that I saw in Vegas where they go over a cliff. So, in order to supplement for those, you need to get stem cell injections. There’s other ways to help make the stem cells in your body stronger. So, as you age… And there’s peptides that Josh is going to talk about that can help do this. We mentioned some of them earlier, but they’re dual attack type factors with these peptides. But really the only way, similar to the NAD+, it falls off precipitously, so I take it every day. The stem cells, as you age, it’s something that once you get going, you’re going to want, they call boosters. So you get them in, and then you get more as they degrade. And you can measure this stuff in the body. But it’s taking off for a reason. All these athletes are healing their injuries at accelerating rates. There’s hockey players that came back from injuries that they’ve never been able to come back from before. It’s a really, really cool area. I’m super excited about the stem cells, the hyperbaric oxygen, and the therapeutic plasma exchange because those three things together is the holy trinity of reversing your age in this intelligent aging regenerative space. Congratulations on offering the deal that you’re offering because I think it’s almost too good to be true.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and folks, your doctor doesn’t know the first thing about stem cells. Jeremy is correct. I, as you know, am allopathic trained. It means classic medical school, a pill for every ill. And I had 30 seconds in medical school over 30 years ago because we just didn’t know anything about stem cells. I had to learn this for myself. My uncle contracted Lou Gehrig’s because there was no treatment in the United States for Lou Gehrig’s. It was a death sentence. And so I started doing the research and that’s when my eyes were opened to these stem cells. That’s why I’m one of the world’s foremost experts because I’ve been doing them for so long, but I had to teach myself because there was no course I could take. That’s why I was in Las Vegas with Jeremy and Judy, my wife, in December training 8,000 doctors because they didn’t know either. So you’ve got to, one, look for the best source, but two, look for a doctor who is well versed in this and isn’t going to try and sell you something that if it’s right for you, I’m going to tell you it’s right for you. If it’s not, it’s not. But I’ll tell you what, they’re absolutely incredible when you see people regenerate their knee or their shoulder or you reverse Lou Gehrig’s or multiple sclerosis or Crohn’s, all these conditions. It’s absolutely fascinating.
SPEAKER 14 :
And you need to know how many to have. Some clinic, maybe they do have live cells, but they’re giving you a quarter of what you need for the price that you’re charging for the amount that you need. Yeah. So you’ve got to know how many thousands of cells do I need for which particular ailment. There’s a lot to it. So definitely sit down and educate yourself with someone like you to know exactly what do I need them for, how many do I need, how do I need them put in under what circumstances. But they’re the future of regenerative medicine.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And that goes back to that credibility that we talked about a couple of – Last month. Last month with Peter Attia and how he screwed his credibility being with Jeffrey Epstein. And so I told you my story. I’m not going to go back and rehash it. You guys can listen to that. But hopefully – I’ve earned your trust over a couple of years talking on 560KLZ. John, trust me, my show, my clinic, he comes, his wife comes. So hopefully that speaks volumes to my integrity and what we do at our offices.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and you’re honest, right? It’s an off-label use. It’s something that is getting a lot of good scrutiny from the FDA, and you’re starting to see this administration move more and more in that direction. You helped Governor DeSantis get it passed in Florida, and it’s going to spread like wildfire across the country. But in the meantime, do your homework.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do your research. Yeah, caveat emptor. Buyer beware. Yep. So we’re going to take one more break. And then we’ll come back, and Josh, I want you to talk more about the peptides and answer that caller’s question about where can you get NAD? Do you need to qualify for it? What are the contraindications? Things like that. So we’ll be right back. 560-KLZ, Dr. Scott Fulmer.
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Welcome back, listeners, to the final segment of three hours, 560 KLZ, Dr. Scott Faulkner with Jeremy Soba and Josh Gardner, who is an expert in peptides. So, Josh, we had a caller ask the question, heard us talking about NAD+, and how important it is. The questions were, where do I get it? Do I qualify? Do I have to qualify for it? So if you can address some of those questions that listeners have, I’d appreciate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Cool. Got to put the mic in front of me in order to be able to talk. That does help. So luckily for peptides, if you’re not going through a name brand GLP company, there is no qualification. Now, there can be contraindications, and this is up to your doctor to decide which peptides are right for you. But these are all off-label. We talk about the FDA a lot, and one of the best things about peptides is they aren’t FDA-approved. And what that means for you is they truthfully work, and they treat the root cause of something, and it’s just not a Band-Aid. And so specifically NAD, definitely not something that you have to qualify for. Everybody qualifies for it by just being alive. For the delivery technology that we touched on earlier that show the sublingual strip with high bioavailability and, you know, easy to travel technology, you can find that at casrockregenerative.com. Dr. Scott and his team will be happy to get that to you. But again, definitely not something that you need to qualify for. And for most peptides, especially those sublingual peptides, takes a lot of the regulation out of it. So they’re all dietary supplement labeled. So it’s just like buying a vitamin for for all the for all the listeners out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thank you, Josh. I really appreciate that. So let’s continue talking about peptides. The thymus and alpha one you had mentioned earlier, I think it was an hour to the BPC 157. I think you really were talking about MOTC. You didn’t hit SS 31. Well, so I’m going to give you an opportunity to really bring those home.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so thymosin alpha-1, thymosin alpha-1, T-A-1, is probably one of the most overlooked and underutilized peptides. And I say that because… It’s not a glorious peptide. The immune system is just something people really focus on, but it is so important.
SPEAKER 14 :
We said a few months ago, it’s the most important thing to focus on because the immune system being strong fights off all the other horsemen and thio mice alpha one. Myself included was so naive that I’ve only started taking it a couple of weeks ago, but now it’s a part of my ongoing regimen.
SPEAKER 08 :
and it 100 percent should be it’s one of those things that you can take for you know um systemic inflammation in the body or um you know long covid prolonged illness but it’s also something that you can take if your kid comes home from school and got sick and you’re a working parent and you can’t miss work it’s something you can take proactively So it’s phenomenal. Boosts your T cell function, which is a staple for the immune system and how you fight off illness. TA1 is antiviral, it’s antibacterial, and it’s antifungal. So it’s covering all kind of umbrella diseases. umbrella terms when it comes to the immune system.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I pair it with a high dose of vitamin C in the IV bags at Dr. Faulkner’s clinic. So I’ll go 18,000 milligrams of vitamin C, and then I take the thyromycin alpha-1 daily too. And here we are 10 and a half months later, I still haven’t been sick.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. But folks, did you hear that those who had COVID, long COVID, This is one of those things because it’s very hard once you get that spike protein in your body to get it out, and it’s wrecking people. I had a gentleman call yesterday, his doctor down in Colorado Springs, wasn’t sure what to do. He’s got fatigue, myalgias, arthralgias, so muscle aches, joint aches, and all his labs were looking pretty good. She wasn’t sure what to do. She said, call this Dr. Faulkner. I hear him. He knows a lot. Long story short, I made sure that he didn’t have like Epstein-Barr, chronic Lyme disease, things like that. He is on a GLP-1, and I’ve had about five people just have pure exhaustion from a GLP-1. It’s not common, but it can happen. Um, but he had started that three months ago and this exhaustion started five years ago. Long story short, I said, did you get the COVID vaccine? He said, you know, funny you say that because right afterwards, that’s when I started feeling this fatigue and nothing has helped. I said, you’re vaccine injured. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
So start the, um, the nicotine patch, get the therapeutic plasma exchange and take the thiomycin alpha one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Ozone, um, um, ultraviolet, um, blood infusion with the ozone. the natokinase, bromelain, curcumin, all that stuff. We throw everything but the kitchen sink at you because it’s horrible. And then believe it or not, I’ve had great success with stem cells. And that has brought people back from the brink. No surprise. Yep. So Josh, we’ve only got about four minutes left. So hit BBC 157. And I definitely want you to hit that brain-derived neurotrophic factor again. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don’t believe we’ve touched on BDNF or brain-derived nootropic factor yet. So I’ll start there and we’ll work into BPC. But brain-derived nootropic factor is a nootropic protein that plays a crucial role in brain’s health, learning capabilities, memory. And overall neuron survival. We’re also seeing that it has increased neuroplasticity. So what that means is your brain’s ability to be malleable and to learn and to. you know, undertake new synapse firing or neuron development. And that’s extremely important when you talk about PTSD or depression or all of, you know, anxiety, all of these mental illnesses. We’re seeing revolutionary things when it comes to BDNF and how it works within the body with the new synapses working and the growth of neurons and overall neuroplasticity of the brain. There’s a few other peptides that are, Kind of right up there, CMAX you might have heard of, dihexa, selenic, some of those. But I think the holy grail right now is BDNF in terms of kind of a cognitive enhancement peptide. And then another thing that starts with a B, BPC157. Back up.
SPEAKER 14 :
How do you get that BDNF peptide? Is it vials? Is it going to be coming –
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So BDNF is there’s, unfortunately it’s one of those ones that as of now, we can’t figure out how to work on a strip. Um, we’re, we’re limited to a thing called Dalton sizes, but it is something that you can get that as an injectable. Um, and you can also find that at Dr. Scott Faulkner’s, um, Casrock regenerative clinic.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Um, and probably could pair extremely well with, uh, the H bot. Um, haven’t, you know, done those side by side studies, but I could see there being a lot of synergy between both of those treatments. Um, and then BPC, the crown jewel, um, it is body protective compound. It is one of the most impressive peptides when it comes to overall repair of the body in anti-inflammation. When we kind of touch, when we go back to what we talked about earlier in the show, it was how to reduce inflammation in the body and how to optimize mitochondrial function. And BPC is the ultimate inflammation-reducing peptide, starting in the GI tract and moving to all the other systemic inflammation that your body has. I have a question.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let’s say I have, like I did, a slap tear or torn labrum. Mm-hmm. Are those strips to the mouth going to help? Because I was sticking it into the muscle near the injury. Or would you suggest a combination of the two? That’s a great question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Historically, oral BPC stayed gut localized, which means it only healed the GI tract. With this new delivery technology, you are actually seeing it be more of a systemic inflammation healer. Throughout the whole body. Throughout the whole body. So these strips will help heal ligaments, tendons, joints, muscles, all sorts of things, not just the GI tract. Thank you, Josh, for that.
SPEAKER 14 :
So we’re hearing the music. I just want to say next month, you do not want to miss the show. We’re going to unpack Clotho Longevity Protein, named after the Greek mythology goddess responsible for spinning the thread of life. symbolizing life and aging. And that alone is going to blow people’s minds because it’s the forefront of what we’re about to move into in regenerative medicine at your clinic and across the entire longevity space.
SPEAKER 07 :
And don’t forget, stem cells 30% off this Friday and Saturday only. Call the clinic 303-663-6990. Dr. Scott Falkner and friends signing off. We’ll talk to you next month.

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