Mike says I told you so, and Mark eats crow!
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SPEAKER 01 :
How old is Cher today? Is she 80? She’s 80! Cher is 80. So I had to go to that vast library of Cher and say, what should I do, what should I do, what should I do? Turn back time. That works. And you know what?
SPEAKER 02 :
I’d like to turn back time. You know, if we go back in time, I remember a guy who kept telling you that they were going to push Biden out because he wasn’t going to make it. And you kept saying, are you crazy?
SPEAKER 01 :
You said Biden is not going to be the nominee. He will not be the nominee. Look at the impossible things that have to happen either. He gets out, which he’ll never do, dot, dot, dot. So Nostradamus, Nostradamus. And I’ll tell you, this happened.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good, I’m sorry. And I hate to be mean. I mean, I just hate to dunk on you today. But let’s just take a little trip down memory lane. We just have to go back 24 hours. And in fact, Lordy, there are tapes. Eric, from yesterday’s Eminem experience. Let’s relive. Hit it. I’m going to make a prediction.
SPEAKER 01 :
He’s going to endorse. Even Cornyn yesterday said, I think that ship has sailed.
SPEAKER 02 :
I’ll bet he endorses this week. But I don’t know who it’s going to be. That’s what’s crazy. At this point, I have no idea.
SPEAKER 01 :
Which is why he’s not going to endorse.
SPEAKER 02 :
Won’t he look? You said that he he said he would think about whether or not to endorse.
SPEAKER 01 :
He said somebody said, hey, you haven’t endorsed in Cornyn versus Paxton. His reply was, I’ll make a decision in the coming days. And everybody thought, oh, he’s either going to endorse Cornyn or Paxton. And one of his decisions could be not to endorse at all. It gets worse every time. It gets worse every time.
SPEAKER 02 :
That aged like fine wine. I mean, when are you going to listen to me? When are you going to listen to me?
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you know what did age well, really well? I went back and I said, okay, because we were living it in literal real time. We started the podcast yesterday at 11. We knew that Trump was going to endorse, which enabled you to needle me. But we didn’t know who was going to be. And I can give you more credit than you gave yourself in that clip. Because moments later, you said, you know what? I’m going to double down. It’s going to be Paxton. So, boom, you went 2-0. But in listening last night, I went back and listened to us at 11. I said… It was the smartest thing we could ever just dive in, reveal in real time that we this is breaking as we speak. We have no idea whom the endorsement is going to be. So if it’s this way, how does it go? If it’s that way, how does it go? And the Eminem extra was was was just spectacular yesterday for a number of reasons.
SPEAKER 02 :
And what a night last. What a day we had yesterday. Man, oh, man. Mark, you can’t get out of the way of victories. I mean, from Georgia to Kentucky to South Carolina, they voted to redistrict, getting rid of Jim Clyburn’s seat. Now, that’s in the House of Representatives. Or in the House, rather. It’s got to go over to the Senate. But it is expected to pass. So that’s a huge, huge deal in South Carolina. And in Georgia… All three conservative Supreme Court justices in they won and they won big in. Of course, we know about Thomas Massey. Wow. I mean, it wasn’t close. It wasn’t close. Think about it. I love what Scott Jennings wrote. He said, you don’t tug on Superman’s cape. You don’t spit into the wind. You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you don’t mess around with Trump.
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, think about this.
SPEAKER 02 :
Think about this situation with Thomas Massey and Ed Galrein. A seven-term incumbent named Tom Massey lost to a candidate who had never held public office, never debated. He wouldn’t participate in any debates. He was only in the race because Trump asked him to be in the race. He was Trump’s hand-picked challenger. Look, MAGA is not dead. Trump is MAGA, and Trump knows how to win. And something very… special happened last night, yesterday in Kentucky. The boomers won the election. Everybody, young people favored Massey by a million miles. Seniors carried Massey, you know, a gallery across the finish line. Because all the other demographics… Voted for Massey. But that’s the power. They can mock boomers all day long. Hey, boomers, if you show up, we’re going to save America. You’ve got to show up. You’ve got to vote. And because we will outlast and outvote them and outnumber them. You don’t need to win the room. You’ve got to just own the one corner that shows up. That’s how powerful the seniors block has become, and Kentucky is a prime example of that. Because, look, Massey really did have a lot of wind in his back. He had a lot of momentum, whether you like it or not. The left was rooting for him. The mainstream media was rooting for him. And young people, Gen Zers, Gen Xers, They were all for Massey. They liked him sticking his thumb in the eye of the Trump agenda.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know what else. You know what else. What else? It starts with I. In the air? The other I. Israel. His Israel hesitancy resonated greatly. And I said yesterday, I don’t think Tom Massey is an anti-Semite. I really don’t. But if you’ve got that hanging over your head, the last thing you do is in your concession speech say, well, it would have been out here earlier, but I had to try to call Ed Golrein. He was hard to find in Tel Aviv.
SPEAKER 02 :
But, Mark, can I ask you something? Can I push back a little bit on that? And I saw our friend Scott Jennings really laid in to Massey for saying that a lot of people seem very, like, viscerally angry at that. Can I ask you a question? Why is that de facto anti-Semitism?
SPEAKER 01 :
As with many as with many of our Tucker and Tucker and Candace, I think that ship has sailed. But I’m still sticking with the notion that Tom Massey is not is not a Jew hater. Right. If you’ve got that cloud hanging over you, the last thing you do is offer up. Here goes once again, one of the most familiar anti-Semitic tropes. And that is that the evil Jews are able to lure our leaders into some thrall in which they must do their bidding. It’s the imagery of Ed Galright not even being in Kentucky on election night, but hanging with his Jewish masters. Yeah, I just hate that. You just don’t do it. Now, as far as Scott, I’m not. You know what makes me really, really angry? Actual Jew hatred. You know what makes me scratch my head? Clumsy and stupid sops to anti-Semitism. And that’s what matters.
SPEAKER 02 :
I hate when somebody says, well, you’re a racist without a lot of evidence there, that the default is to say it’s due to bigotry that you feel the way you feel. I think it’s very important to acknowledge that Thomas Massey might believe that Israel played an outsized role in that race. That doesn’t make him a Jew-hater. That doesn’t make him an anti-Semite. I get what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 01 :
Played an outsized role. Played an outsized role. Did AIPAC support Ed Gellerin? Sure. Okay. Do you think, did AIPAC make Ed support Israel? Does Ed support Israel because of Jewish money? No.
SPEAKER 02 :
But Mark, to keep saying that you’re an anti-Semite because you’re dubious about… That’s the opposite of what I did.
SPEAKER 01 :
It’s the opposite of what I did.
SPEAKER 02 :
To say you’re an anti—I’m not talking about you particularly, but to go into the anti-Semitic screams of protest because somebody’s not comfortable with the role that Israel plays in American politics is stupid.
SPEAKER 01 :
Then tell me why you’re uncomfortable with that if you’re oh-so-smart, oh-so-genius Tom Massey who just got his ass beat in Kentucky, partially from people who believe that his discomfort with Israel is a problem because it makes him a Trump opponent. Stop. It’s the equivalent of a racist joke told by a non-racist. It doesn’t necessarily make you racist, but it makes you stupid.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I just heard you say you don’t think he’s an anti-Semite. I don’t. OK, well, then go with that. Then don’t say he’s an anti-Semite because he is.
SPEAKER 01 :
Is there no. Listen, have there been racist jokes told by non-racists? Yes. Was it stupid? Yes. How about don’t when we are. Would you agree with me that we are in a time when real Jew hating real anti-Semitism is a problem? You know that it is. Of course it is. Since it is, how about if we say, you know something, guys? How about if we stop playing footsie with the index cards of anti-Semitism? And how about if we just don’t go there? That would be a really smart and classy thing to do. Thomas Massey was a classless loser to the surprise of no one.
SPEAKER 02 :
Here’s the counterargument to what you just said, because the other side would say to you, Mark Davis has fallen into the trap of saying we’ve got to tiptoe around Israel because anything you say that’s critical of Israel is going to lead to you being called an anti-Semite. Said no such thing. And I have spent years. having to deal with you being criticized for not liking the Obama agenda. Oh, you’re a racist. I’ve been criticized for criticizing black politicians. Now we’re in this era where it’s Jim Crow 2.0 because we’re going to have sensible, smart redistricting, and it’s all about race. I heard a great conversation this morning on another show in South Carolina. Name one time a black person in America from 2020s on has ever been denied the right to vote. Name, give me one example of a black person.
SPEAKER 01 :
2020s on? How about 1980s, 60s, 70s?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, no kidding. But really, they’re trying to make it seem like we’re trying to deny blacks the right to vote. Blacks aren’t being denied the right to vote. They want to tell black people, you’re too dumb to be able to figure out how to get a photo ID. So we can’t have voter ID laws. They’re lying. They’re the racists. They’re the ones who talk down to black people. And maybe I’m just hypersensitive to this anti-Semitic issue. But I saw that clip last night, and I thought, oh, come on, Massey.
SPEAKER 01 :
But you realize it was it was a dumb thing to say. I’m not setting my hair on fire like Scott may have suggested. No, and I will. I will stay by. There’s a spectrum. There’s actual Jew hating. There’s people who may or may not be, but who knowingly with a nudge and a wink kind of use the index cards in an attempt to just need absolutely. I understand.
SPEAKER 02 :
And look, in Kentucky, staying there for just a moment, man, oh man, these establishment Republicans are dropping like flies. Mitch McConnell spent 41 years building the most powerful Republican machine in the Senate. He blocked nominees. He killed legislation. He outlasted six presidents. He bent the entire GOP caucus to his will for four decades. The moment he stepped back, Trump came in, endorsed Andy Barr. offered the other rival an ambassadorship. That guy dropped out. Guess what? Bar one was 60%, and McConnell is livid. John Thune is livid. John Thune is still going to stick with Cornyn. Hey, Newsflash sent a majority leader.
SPEAKER 01 :
He has to. No, he doesn’t. Why does he have to? Because he’s the Senate Majority Leader and Cornyn is an incumbent.
SPEAKER 02 :
And Trump is the titular head of the Republican Party. Trump is the Republican Party. Trump is our party. And for John Thune to play footsie with John Cornyn. By the way, John Cornyn is going to lose. Period. I mean, I’m sorry. I don’t mean to be Nostradamus on this one. Are you kidding me? It ain’t going to be close. I think Ken Paxton is going to win pretty easily.
SPEAKER 01 :
I’ll still believe it when I see it. Oh, here we go.
SPEAKER 02 :
You’re going to go 0 for 3, man?
SPEAKER 01 :
No, I’m not suggesting Cornyn’s going to win. I’m suggesting that it’s not going to be like 10 points or anything. It’s going to be very, very interesting. Let’s play numbers in the final 60 seconds. What’s close? Two or three percent? Three, four, five, maybe five. Yeah, four or five.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think eight. I think eight. I think Paxton wins by eight, but we’re going to see.
SPEAKER 01 :
Listen, A, anything’s possible. B, I dare not thwart you. Thank you. Nostradamus is powerful.
SPEAKER 02 :
You don’t tug on Superman’s cape. And finally, one big reason, another big reason to smile on a Wednesday. How about Brad Raffensperger? He lost in Georgia. He couldn’t find 11,000 votes. He couldn’t manage to find those votes.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well done. I see what you did there. I see what you did there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep, Brad Raffensperger. Hey, the Trump enemies are dropping. Look, we’ve got momentum headed into the midterms.
SPEAKER 01 :
It makes me feel good about those midterms. It just does. The notion that we’re all going to get smoked because we’re so dispirited and the agenda’s gone off the rails. Maybe not.
SPEAKER 02 :
This could be history in the making, my friend. And I’m telling you, and we’ll break it all down and we’ll get even more intense on the podcast today. Noon Eastern, we’re live on YouTube, 11 Central. And then wherever you get your podcasts, don’t forget to find the Eminem Extra. And we’re having a blast doing these daily podcasts. We’re having a joyful experience and people seem to be loving it. The numbers are growing. People are hearing about it. You know, it’s kind of funny, too quick, the final thing here. The longer people hear you and me together, the more they appreciate that sort of chemistry, whatever it is. I don’t know, but it works.
SPEAKER 01 :
Camaraderie. You’re sticking my face in my misstatements. I feel like a dog that’s pooped on the floor is like, look, Lucky, don’t do this again. Oh, camaraderie. I love it. That’s my kind of camaraderie. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. That’s mine, too. I love you, man. That is Mike. His radio show is at 10, podcast 11, Central Time on 660 AM The Answer. I’m Mark Davis. Back in a moment.
