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Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Roger Mangan’s life is the quintessential American story. Roger and his wife Alice moved to Colorado fifty years ago to start a State Farm Insurance business. Roger shares the recipe for his business success. State Farm Agent Mitch Gardner notes how Mangan’s recipe changed his life. Jan Jekielek, Senior Editor at The Epoch Times, discusses the Chinese Communist Party’s human organ harvesting. Colorado Rep. Ken DeGraaf explains why he represents his constituents instead of special interests at the Colorado Capitol. Joe Whitney with Rooted in Littleton notes
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It’s the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it’s actually tapping down the truth.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the staff here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And we’ve got an amazing show planned for you today. I’m really pleased to have in studio with me Roger Mangan, a great sponsor of the show, State Farm Agent. It’s great to have you here. Thank you, Kim. Good to be here. And you brought along one of your colleagues, and that is Mitch Gardner, who’s also a State Farm Agent. Mitch, it’s great to have you here.
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Good morning, and thank you.
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I think both you and I can attest that meeting Roger Mangan has changed our lives.
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Amen. Yeah.
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And so we’re going to talk about that, you and Roger, as our featured guests in segments three and four. So it’s great to have you here. Thank you again. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy. and unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that plays out at the United Nations with this Colorado legislature and governor. But we’re seeing it trickle all the way down to local government. And in fact, we’ll be talking with Joe Whitney with Rooted in Littleton in the second segment of this hour. So remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. Let’s get in here. I chose the word of the day, quintessential. It’s a great word. It’s spelled Q-U-I-T-E-S-S-E-N-T-I-A-L. It could be being the most typical example or most important part of something. And I’m going to go to a typical example here. Roger, I don’t want to embarrass you, but knowing your life story, I would say that you are the quintessential American dream. And so I chose the word of the day for that.
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Well, thank you, Kim. I’m honored today.
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It’s a great story. And our word of the day is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He was born in 1749, died in 1832. He was a German polymath who is widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. His work has had a wide-ranging influence on literary, political, and philosophical thought in the Western world from the late 18th century to the present. A poet, playwright, novelist, scientist, statesman, theater director, and critic. You know, Joe, I think that that was probably before iPhones, when somebody could get all that done there. Garite wrote on a wide range of works, including plays, poetry, and aesthetic criticism. And he said this, “‘The moment one definitely commits oneself,’ then providence moves too. Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it. Action has magic, power, and grace. I thought that was a great quote for the day. So jumping into that, let’s see. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And so thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. And then also Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor of the show for many years. They have locations in Loveland, Westminster, and in Aurora. And they have great specials Monday through Friday for lunch or for happy hour. and how I got to know them. I would say it’s a quintessential story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs, those politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to try to control our lives. So be sure and check that out with the football season in full swing. It’s a great place to get together to watch the games. There is a lot going on regarding headlines. And number one, As you know, we have been watching these transmission lines, this big land takings on transmission lines, and then just the amount of acreage for industrial solar and wind projects. And Trump, true to his word, this is from CT Insider. He is canceling 12, you know what, and we’ll challenge clean energy projects as we’re learning. These solar panels and wind turbines are not recyclable. But anyway, Trump is canceling 12 of these projects in Connecticut, totaling $52.9 million. And so that is pretty interesting that he’s staying true to his word on that. Next thing, and I was speaking at a backyard event on Friday night, and a gentleman, we’ve talked about this, he said this is a really big deal, and this is from complete Colorado, that the U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear a Colorado case probably tomorrow, on Tuesday, challenging the state statute banning use of so-called conversion therapy on minors. I remember when that piece of legislation went through the statehouse that said that if a child is having some confusion regarding their gender and they go to a therapist, a therapist by law can no longer talk with them about being the same gender that they actually were born with. They can only talk about transitioning. And they’re calling that conversion therapy would be to talk with the young person about about what their actual gender is. And so by law, here in Colorado, they can’t do that. They can only affirm gender transition. So Kaylee Childs, who is represented by the public interest law firm Alliance Defending Freedom, is arguing this. She said this violates her First Amendment right to free speech by barring a counselor conversations on the topic under threat of license revocation with clients under the age of 18. And it says the statute defines conversion therapy as efforts to change an individual’s sexual orientation, including efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attraction. And I can’t believe that the Colorado state legislators think that they need to get in between a patient and their therapist. So the case is scheduled for tomorrow. And the question presented asked whether a law that censors certain conversations between counselors and their clients based on the viewpoints expressed regulates conduct or violates the free speech clause. So this is huge. And thank you for, I’m glad that this was brought to my attention on that. Next thing, again, as you know, I was involved, moderated the documentary, A Climate Conversation, which you can watch for free at aclimateconversation.com. It’s a project of my friend Walt Johnson, who is a geophysicist for over 50 years. And he wanted to just have an honest conversation about this whole climate thing. And we filmed that about three years ago, and he’s in the process of, we’re going to do a sequel to this. But we had seen so much pressure in so many different areas regarding the narrative of violence. of climate change and i found this headline quite interesting this is from the irish news says the global banking climate group is to stop operations after member accidents and so what we were seeing is pressure on banking institutions to fund this agenda. And then, of course, we had all kinds of tax incentives and all kinds of money going towards that agenda. And I think this is a big deal. And it says assembled in 2021 by the UN Environment Program’s finance initiative, but led by banks, the Net Zero Banking Alliance committed members to align their lending, investment and capital market activities with cutting planet warming greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050. And quite frankly, as we learned in the documentary, CO2 is nature’s plant food. And the idea that we are trying to cut nature’s plant food is kind of crazy. But it goes on to say several major banks, including British lenders HSBC and Barclays, left the group within the last year. Remaining members have now voted to stop being a member-based organization, the alliance announced recently. The resources developed over the last few years will remain available to banks looking to make commitments to help tackle climate change. And again, I would really recommend that you check out A Climate Conversation because it’s just a great… a Socratic method of just kicking the tires on these ideas. And so be sure and check that out. You can watch that for free at aclimatconversation.com. And then also wanted to mention Mint Financial Strategies. They’re a great sponsor of the show. And Jody Henze asks, do you have big plans for your future? future, but you’re not quite sure how to get there? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies because they know that your financial life is unique, and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. So take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. And then also the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. Roger’s been in business for over 50 years, helping his clients, taking care of his family, giving back to his community. And, in fact, at the event that I was at on Friday evening, I had a friend that said that they’d moved out to Elbert County. And they’d been using an insurance broker. And the cost for their new property was very expensive. So she said, well, why don’t we call Roger Mangan? And that’s what they did. And she said his team was able to save them over half. And then she said she referred a number of her friends to you as well. So love that, Roger. And so like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team is there.
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Thank you so much for having me. To learn more, reach out to Teresa at 520-631-9243. Teresa would love to talk with you. Again, that number is 520-631-9243.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And also check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. Paula Sarles and her team is raising the money to take care of and remodel the official Marine Memorial, which is right out here in Golden. And Veterans Day is right around the corner. A great way to say thank you is to support the memorial. And you can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have in studio with me Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team and Mitch Gardner with the – is it the Mitch Gardner State Farm Insurance Team? Mm-hmm.
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Yes, it is.
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Okay. Well, it’s great to have both of you here, and we’ll be talking with both of you in the next segment about how Rogers changed our lives. So that’s great. But on the line with me is Joe Whitney. He is with a group rooted in Littleton. Joe, it’s great to have you on again.
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Thank you. Great to be here.
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So there’s a lot going on. I go to church over in Littleton. And as I go up and down Broadway, I’ve seen a number of rooted in Littleton signs. And tell us just a little bit about what that is if people are not familiar with it.
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Yeah, Rooted in Littleton is a volunteer community organization. A bunch of Littleton residents got together because the city tried to push through an ordinance in January where they would change the definition of single-family residential to include duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes in every neighborhood in Littleton. So we came together to fight that and we’re successful so far in pushing it back. But now we’ve got a ballot initiative that hopefully can make that a little more longer lasting than just November’s election.
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So, Joe, the governor on these land use codes, the state has tried to get into this whole zoning regarding increasing density. And it really should be a local issue, yes?
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It should, yeah. We are a home rule city, but our city has failed to join the home rule suit against the governor.
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Okay. And why is this important regarding single-family homes, Joe Whitney?
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Well, gosh, it comes down to individual home rights. And in our particular case, you know, all of us moved to Littleton because we wanted to get away from the crime and the traffic and the pressures of downtown to have a more idyllic setting to raise kids and to live. And this really threatens to make Littleton an extension of downtown and to really densify, double, maybe even triple the population of Littleton. They want to make it super bike-friendly, remove parking requirements, and basically really change the whole makeup of the town.
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Now, I was over in Centennial, and this just popped up on a kind of a, it’s not a main thoroughfare, but close enough, one of those feeder streets. And the people that live there, one day they woke up, and they had had the bike lanes that were painted, and then the pylons, and then the little turtle things. And I’m wondering how that works for snow removal, but the neighbors were pretty frustrated with that.
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Yeah, there’s a lot of that happening in Littleton. Not always for the better. We’re all for safer streets. There’s lots of ways to do it. But just putting cones on every single street and lining them. Some of them have so many cones and so much paint. Trying to really understand where to be. I think it’s actually more dangerous than it was before they did it.
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When I was on city council, I served on city council in Lone Tree from 2012 to 2016. We were seeing that push, and it comes typically from interested parties, goes to staff, and then it just happens. And many times, your representatives don’t understand or are not aware of it. And I asked, how much money is being used for all this paint and the time that it takes for staff to just paint the roads, but then to add in all of this other stuff, that costs money, Joe Whitney.
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Boy, it sure does. And speaking of costing money, the city of Littleton has now sued us. They’ve filed for a judicial review of our charter amendment, which is going to cost the taxpayers, you know, boy, I don’t know, 30, 40, $50,000. And it’s going to cost us a lot of money to defend ourselves, you know, right as we’re coming into this election. So it’s curious with the timing of this whole thing.
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What are they suing you for?
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So we have ballot initiative 3A, which essentially is an initiative. It’s a charter amendment. And the charter amendment protects single family residential zoning in Littleton. Now, charter amendments can be changed, but they require a vote of the people. You know, all of us, for the most part, people in Littleton don’t have a lot of trust for the city council because they tried to change the definition of single family residential zoning. So the only way we could think to stop it, at least for a couple of years, was to get an amendment on the charter that made it so that they can’t change it. So ours actually freezes the land use code. to January 1st, 2025, so they can’t attempt to rezone any of the existing neighborhoods in Littleton. And they could have filed for a judicial review to look into it earlier, but they waited until right before the election when we’re trying to get mailers out and things like that. to file their judicial review. And it’s problematic for two reasons. Number one, it drains our ability to really fund our organization and compete in a fair election. And they knew that. They could have done it sooner. They could have waited until after the election. But the second thing that happens is if the judge doesn’t dismiss it, and we’re trying to get him to dismiss it next week, but it takes a few weeks to do that. If the judge doesn’t dismiss it by the law, he will toll the election, which means he will not let our ballot initiative move forward in this election. And we’ll have to schedule a separate election later, which probably will cost $100,000 for the city to fund.
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Let me get this straight. The citizens, some of the citizens in Littleton are concerned about really losing their neighborhoods because if you start to densify, and the other thing is they’re not really addressing parking, so you get to a point where you have people on top of each other. I was out in California visiting someone, And people would drive around and try to figure out a place to park at night. They then would have to walk to their apartment or their house. And it really is – it’s bad policy, I think, to do that. But so citizens came together. They wanted to put a ballot initiative on the ballot so that people could – just have their voices heard. And you’re saying the city of Littleton is suing you so that people cannot vote on this. Am I getting that right?
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You are. I will tell you the city’s public response to this is, oh no, if the judge decides to toll the election, which he’s required to do so by law, they say they will waive that right. It’s really unclear if they even have that right. It’s certainly not specified in the law. It’s a brand new law, by the way, that went into effect August 6th that the city is using for this lawsuit. It was backed by real estate. investor, real estate companies and developers and apartment builders. So, you know, basically the people that line city council’s pockets at election time. And so, you know, we don’t know that they can say that. And so, yeah, we think we’ve essentially might be silenced in this election.
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Well, that takes my breath away, Joe Whitney. What about, can you talk about candidates? I know that there’s an important races for city council and mayor. Are you endorsing any candidates from? We are.
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We are. There are four. And thank you for asking. There is one member of city council, Pat Driscoll, who has been the only person consistently to stand up against citizens. The zoning changes the city has wanted to make. So he’s running for mayor. We think he’s got a really good shot. We’ve also got an at-large candidate, David Carlton. We’ve got Kurt Samuelson running for District 3. And Darren Limerand is running for District 1. So we’ve got four really solid candidates, all business people with proven professional business track records. All four will make a stark contrast to what we see on council today, which for the most part are people that are idealists.
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Okay. And again, give us those names one more time, Joe Whitney.
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Yeah, Darren Limerand, he is District 1, Kurt Samuelson, District 3, David Carlton is the at-large candidate, and Pat Driscoll, Mayor.
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Okay. I’m looking over here, yeson3a.org, and I’m a little perplexed. I am and I’m not. But the idea that… Your city would sue people to keep a question off the ballot. That seems like that’s that’s antithetical to the American idea. I think we want to have people to be able to have their voices heard.
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Yeah, and it gets a little creepier than that because they claim it’s not a suit. At the same time, we were served papers. And, you know, the papers clearly say Littleton versus rooted in Littleton, city of Littleton versus rooted in Littleton. And the money we have to spend to defend our interest in this is significant. It’s well into five figures just to get a motion to dismiss, which we think we have a good shot at. But still. It drains our coffers as we’re coming into the election. And if we don’t prevail, then we’ll be silenced.
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And the other problem is, though, is the city of Littleton has not unlimited dollars, but they have taxpayer dollars that they can tap. And they also have typically a city attorney or a contract out with a city attorney. The taxpayer is paying for that as well.
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Yeah, they hired an outside law firm. Aha. Okay. So for somebody not suing us, why they hired an outside law firm is a little perplexing that they can say that.
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This is very, very concerning. Joe Whitney, I normally do a voter’s guide, and so I was working on that yesterday. And so I was trying to find the information regarding Denver. They have a bond package, $950 million. And What’s frustrating is it’s not easy for everyday people to really get the actual ballot language. There was everything on there about vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, but we don’t know what we’re voting on. And now I can’t remember which founder it was. But they said it doesn’t really matter if we are electing representatives of the people if, in fact, the laws and regulations are so voluminous that we can’t understand them and that these groups are not representing the people. So this is a big deal, what’s happening in Littleton, Joe Whitney. What’s your final thought? Websites, all of that kind of information.
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Our thought is the city really needs representatives that are representative of the people. You know, the people of Littleton don’t want this. They’ve been very vocal ever since January 1st when four or five hundred people jammed city council chambers. We went and conducted a survey and found out almost everybody in Littleton is against this, yet the city continues to push this agenda, and they know the people don’t want it. So their mandate that they say is for people who might move to Littleton in the future, and they think they need to make the best decision for them, even though we’re the ones who live there and have lived there for years.
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And are paying the taxes. You’re paying the taxes for the city of Littleton to sue the people. That seems like a problem. Okay, that website is rootedinlittleton.org, rootedinlittleton.org. Joe Whitney, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. This is important that people step up and protect their communities. So thank you so much.
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Thank you, Kim. Always a pleasure.
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There’s so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we had Joe Whitney on in the previous segment with Rooted in Littleton. And they could really use your help from a financial standpoint. So go to RootedinLittleton.org and and you can make a contribution there, I think. And also, I think regarding the Yes on 2A, you can make a contribution there. And that is yeson3a.org, yeson3a.org. One of the nonprofits that I feature on a regular basis is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. It is on the beautiful Riverwalk. It’s nonpartisan, nonpolitical, but they’re focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They have the Portraits of Valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients listed. as well as great educational programs for our students and educators to really work on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Pleased to have in the studio with me my friend, great sponsor of the show, Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. It’s great to have you here. Thank you, Kim, very much. And Mitch Gardner, who is a successful state farm agent as well. Mitch, it’s great to have you here.
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Thank you, Kim. I appreciate that.
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Well, and Roger, we do interviews on a regular basis. And Roger had talked about kind of a shortened version of four things about being a success in business. And he shared them with me, and then he told a story about the two of you. And we thought, this is a great story. So it’s great to have you here, Mitch Gardner. Tell us about this.
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Well, thank you. And thank you, Roger. I cannot begin to say thank you enough, which I’ve expressed to you so many times. I just I’m honored to be here, Kim. And when you’re talking about I think you said the word is quintessential.
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Yes, quintessential.
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Yes. There was a good word for Roger in terms of being a motivator and an inspiration to not just myself, but a lot of people. So I just want to make sure I get that out there. I think that’s an excellent word. I’ve been an agent for 42 years.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Yes. And again, I owe that to Roger as well.
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He referred to you in this conversation as the young guy, but you’ve been in business for 42 years. Yes.
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Yes, which is a major milestone in terms of just doing business and having the knowledge and stuff and skills that you need to run a successful business, just in general. And my… introduction to Roger was that he was very successful and still is, but he was this person that was out there and was really, really, really doing really good work as an agent and involved in the community. And so someone had told me to call him and speak to him. And I said, okay, well, maybe I’ll do that. And the funny part about my experience was the fact of being locked in on trying to do business as a, you know, just as a startup. And We call that a scratch agent. So I was just a scratch agent, which means that you don’t get any files or anything. So you just start knocking on doors and go from there and making calls. And so I was about maybe three or four years into my agency, but I wasn’t going anywhere. I mean, I really wasn’t doing what I thought you should be able to do in this business.
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And that’s tough work. I was in the investment business. And cold calling, it’s a lot of work to start a scratch business. So things are not happening, but you’re not giving up.
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No, not giving up. So I called Roger. We were in a meeting together, and someone had introduced me. And so I called him and asked if I could maybe stop by and pick his brain a little bit. And so I called him, and he was very open, and he says, sure, come on over, Mitch. So he didn’t look at you as a competitor? No. No, he did not. Interesting. Yeah.
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So you get together.
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So we get together. Beautiful office. Everything was going well. I’m like, man, this is good. How do you do this? And so he said, you have to kind of get outside the box. that was a major thing for me to understand in terms of what he was saying about being an owner of a business okay right because before that i kind of was always this employee type mentality and not being an owner and one of the things he said to me which i will never forget he said well, you ever go to the bank? I said, well, yeah. Well, have you ever met the president of the bank? I said, well, no. He says, because that’s an owner. And a lot of times you don’t meet the owners of organizations. And so you have to shift your thinking to get outside of just being an employee. Because now you have to run a business, which means you have to have staff. You have to have And so when I came in, I said, okay, well, I just need one person. And at that time, a copier, right? And Roger, if you remember, we had the old microfiche system that we was using. And that’s the one that I thought I needed, right? Was to do these things. But no, I needed something more aggressive than just that, right? And so… He said, think outside the box. And that was just something that triggered for me in terms of getting outside of the box in terms of my thinking. And so when I did that, I… I don’t know. Things just started happening, Kim.
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Really? Almost like that?
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Yes. Things started happening because my thought process really changed. And I got a chance to see his office. And it made me think about what was going on in my office and my agency and how I was going to make this shift. Because that meant bringing in more people. And I’m just getting started, if you know what I mean. But bringing in more people and being able to be a coach instead of just plugging along. So I’m teaching them my skills in terms of knocking on the doors or making the calls. So they had more of a team approach to getting things going.
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What about hiring team members? Because getting the right people is really important. So how did that go, Mitch?
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Well, going back to Roger again, going back to Roger again, in terms of interviewing people, I started looking at people who worked in restaurants and people who were working in the banks, right, in terms of what they did and their skill sets. Because in the insurance agency, right, That’s what we do. We deal with people, and we have to deal, oh, the other one was people who worked in restaurants. Because they have the situation where they can tolerate the onslaught of adversity in the insurance industry, meaning catastrophes, accidents, or whatever might go along with that, to be able to service to service our clients, right? I mean, like you said earlier, like a good neighbor, State Farm’s there. And I wanted to own that brand. I wanted to do that. And by the way, I was a State Farm client when I was a kid at 17. So I kind of knew a little bit about State Farm as a kid, but not knowing what was going on the inside, but State Farm always took care of the issues I had. So, I don’t know, it just brought that to fruition for me in terms of looking for people who had the skill set to want to help and really serve people and to be able to give back.
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Wow. Roger, are you embarrassed that we’re talking about you behind your back while you’re sitting here?
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No, I am thinking about the people who in my life touched me as I was a young person. And I think my message to the listening public is whoever you are, Do something, and you can do it consciously or unconsciously, to touch the lives of people to light the path so they can move forward. Now, I’m thinking of my Scoutmaster when I was 11 years old, one of the great influencers of my life. But that was only a two-year window. And that two-year window as a Boy Scout, I was amazed at this person who cared about me so much that he recommended me for certain things like the Order of the Arrow, which is a very special award that is given to scouts. And it has to do with leadership. So here I am, 11, 12 years old, and he’s looking at me as a potential leader. And I never looked at myself that way. So from that point, I had a wrestling coach at McKinley Park District in Chicago who also looked at me that way. So my point is, you, if you’re a listener, please know that you can have so much impact on the lives of people without knowing it by just getting involved, just being there for them. In Mitch’s case, we were just casually talking, invited him over, and my hat’s off to Mitch because… As his career unfolded, he was able to prosper, to have a great agency, and at the same time work on his Ph.D., which he got. Mitch, tell them a little bit about that because that’s amazing.
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Well, we’re going to keep that as our cliffhanger, okay? And that is, yeah, we want to hear about that. And these discussions happen. As you know, I’m an independent voice on an independent station, so I don’t have any corporation telling me what to do. And that is why our sponsors and your support is so important. And certainly, I know each and every one of our sponsors, and they all strive for excellence. And one of those sponsors is Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. In studio with me is Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And we’re talking with Mitch Gardner, one of your colleagues, about how you… influenced his life and so Mitch you have a successful State Farm agency but Roger said while you were building that you also got your PhD so tell us about that well um wow
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Well, I went to Roger’s office and I saw the different awards and stuff that he had in his office and stuff. And so I was inspired by that as well. I got my undergraduate in Missouri, at Kirksville, Missouri. And also Roger brought the thing with the Boy Scouts and the arrow. I was a part of that as well. I didn’t know that we had that connection. I just understand that to the Boy Scouts for a long time. and still kind of actively involved with the Boy Scouts. So I just wanted to give that plug, because I didn’t know we had that piece together. Thanks for sharing. The leadership.
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Yesterday I stopped at the hardware store, and there were Boy Scouts selling popcorn. And I know it’s expensive, and I didn’t have my cash with me, so I went back to the car, and then I came around because I thought, I want to support what they’re doing. So I now have that expensive popcorn. Thank you, Kim.
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So your PhD. So anyway, I noticed that I think you had a master’s degree, correct? Yes. Yes. And so he had that. And so I always wanted to do those things, but I didn’t have the resources to be able to do that. And so it allowed me to go to get my master’s degrees at Regis. Wow. Because of the opportunity in terms of what Roger was able to do for me. It allowed me to do that, and I got my master’s degree from Regis, graduate with honors. Awesome. So then from there, I went to San Francisco and got my PhD at Saybrook University.
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And what’s the studies?
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Studies is in business systems and also psychology, of course. My major is in psychology and business systems. And so that, I contributed to that man over there also because he just inspired me. And he just opened, for me it was like, okay, here’s the key and you gotta open the door, right?
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And then you had to take it from there.
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But I had to take it from there, right? But sometimes you have a door and you got the doorknob, but you can’t get in unless somebody opens the door latch for you to get in. And so Roger did that for me. right and then i’m able to i’m able to give back so i also work at unc and also work or teach at ames because i’m able to get back because of that gentleman over there and so you are you’re helping other people exactly with opening that door exactly oh i love that
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Roger, we did a short snippet about you had four things that you really said people need to pay attention to to be successful. And refresh my memory on that.
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Glad to, Kim. Every business looks at itself through a lens, and the lens that I use to move my business through the years have been, there are four elements to every successful business. The first is you have to produce. to survive. In my business, you have to sell insurance policies. So whatever business you’re in, if you’re on IT, you better get contracts in order to pay the bills and move forward. The second element of a very successful business is you have to be able to administer the business to know where these leads are coming from, what you need to do to be better than you were the day before. So administering the business is critical because if you’re not keeping track of how the business is running on a daily basis, certainly weekly, then all you’re doing is treading water. The third element of every successful business is to entrepreneur the business, to change what’s going on, to stay ahead of the curve in order to be up to speed on new things that are happening in your industry. And I think that’s where Mitch came in. He saw what I was doing, and I was… Frankly, ahead of the curve. Most companies think about this as an armada of ships going across the ocean, and it’s wartime, and all the destroyers are protecting the aircraft carriers. They’re all keeping tight as they move along. Well, that’s good when you’re in the defensive mode, but being defensive isn’t going to lead to success. So there are ships in that armada that sail ahead of the fleet. And they’re in danger when they do that because they’re thinking outside the box. But you have to do that in order to be better than you were before. So I think entrepreneuring your business is critical to your success. And the last element of every successful business is to actually integrate the business. So those are the four steps. Now, integration is defined as the ability of the business to function without Mitch Gardner or Roger Mangan being present at all times and still be a successful entity. So if you integrate the business, it means you are working on the business and not in the business. So that’s the model.
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Very good. I’ve got to just jump in because that’s what exactly what he told me. And the point in terms of he says, you’ve got to build it so that you can do whatever you need to do. And that business is going to take care of itself. And so that was another one of those major milestones for me going, I never thought about that that way. Right. It can function and it’s going to survive forever. with your presence or without your presence, right? And so that was another one of those jewels.
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My dad said to me, he said, you need to do what you need to when you need to. So someday you can do what you want to when you want to. So I think that that’s part of that. Roger, we’ve got about three minutes left, but I think we should give a shout out to your wife, Alice.
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I hope she’s listening. She said she would be. Yeah, my wife is extraordinary. She… She is there at my side supporting me in virtually everything I do. If I try to do more than we’re both capable of, she reminds me that there are limitations. You just don’t run ahead of that fleet so far that you outrun your supply line. So keeping… A eye on the business in the mirror, as well as looking through the windshield as to where you’re going, is a nice balancing act. And my wife, Alice, keeps me well-balanced. Believe me, she’s a superstar.
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She is a superstar, and so I wanted to say thank you to her.
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Well, can I give a shout-out to my wife, too? Please do. We celebrated 50 years of marriage.
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Congratulations.
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And the same thing, Roger. Again, congratulations. And everything I do has kind of been watching this man. And so it gave me that part again to look at what’s going on, the whole thing’s together. And, yes, just like my right-hand person is my wife in terms of she’s involved in all the things that I do. And I just wanted to say thank you, if you’re listening.
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Ah, that’s awesome.
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Her name’s Christine.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and you will actually get a recording of this, so you can take that and play that for her. So Mitch Gardner, we’ve got just a couple of minutes left. What’s your final thought?
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I think I just want to echo what Roger was saying. Basically, those four points are very crucial to understand what’s going on. But to set your business, focus on working on your business, and not in your business. I think that was one of those major keys. So that would be my kind of final words for that, right? And then don’t forget to help others along the way.
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Mitch Gardner, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I appreciate it, Kim. And again, a shout out to your wife, Christine. And Roger Mangan, your final thought.
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Well, keep your balance in life, dear listeners, because you get pushed by all kinds of little pressures, whether it’s buying a new car or buying a house. Don’t overextend yourself. Live within your means, and you will be in charge of your life as opposed to running after it.
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Roger Mangan, my life is better. I’m learning so much from you and from Alice, and I so appreciate you immensely. And our quote- Thank you, Kim. And like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there. That number is 303-795-8855. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, and he said this. He said that there are only two lasting bequests that we can hope to give our children- one of these is roots and the other is wings so my friends today be grateful read great books think good thoughts listen to beautiful music communicate and listen well live honestly and authentically strive for high ideals and like superman stand for truth justice and the american way my friends you are not alone god bless you and god bless america thank you
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And fast on a rough road Riding high through the mountains Climbing, twisting, turning Further from my home Young like a new moon Rising fierce to the rain And lightning wandering out into this ground And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And we’ve got what a great first hour. Just really, truly inspirational to have Mitch Gardner, a successful State Farm agent, and Roger Mangins, successful State Farm agent, who is a great sponsor of the show. It really, really inspires me. And they’re both just truly entrepreneurs and really, really do appreciate that. Let’s go ahead and jump in here to a number of the things that we want to get done. The first thing is our word of the day is quintessential. It’s spelled Q-U-I-N-T-E-S-S-E-N-T-I-A-L. And it could be being the most typical example of or most important part of something. And I would say that the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team, Roger and his wife, Alice, he is the quintessential American farmer. man, I would say. And that’s why I chose the word today. It’s just I’m truly inspired and so pleased to have Roger and his team as sponsors, and I consider them friends. So our quote of the day, I went to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He was a German polymath, widely regarded as the most influential writer in the German language. He was born in 1749. He died in 1832. He said this, the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. Whatever you think you can do or believe you can do, begin it. Action has magic, power, and grace. And again, it took me a while to find the quote of the day. Sometimes it takes me a while as I’m thinking about the guests and the show. And it took me a while to find this. But I really felt that this was… Again, an inspiration of what Roger has done with his life. And I so wanted to share that. We talked with Joe Whitney in Hour Number One with Rooted in Littleton. And thank you, Jenny, for this text message. She said, so let me get this right. The Littleton government is suing the citizens they are supposed to be representing. Is this another example of being selected and non-elected with those voting in Colorado? That’s a good question, Jenny. However, what has happened is… Everyday people have been busy. And we have gone to these elections. Or sometimes when I was on city council, I did not have an opponent. And so I automatically got on city council because I said yes. And many times we will have people that just don’t step up and run for office. And so what has happened is these local governments, instead of representing the people, they are representing special interests. And the special interests may be pushing the agenda of the World Economic Forum. which would be that by 2030, you will own nothing and be happy about it. Well, let’s just think about it. With this density that they’re talking about, they’re rental units. and pushing out single-family homes. And a friend of mine, she many times says, Kim, but there’s only so much land, and so we have to become denser. Well, quite frankly, what has happened is that there have been rules and regulations and ordinances that have prevented development on other land. And And then, again, trying to push people into denser neighborhoods. The other thing is, is we are funding our own demise on this as well through taxing ourselves or the Colorado Lottery regarding buying, having government buy up land for – we have this, in air quotes, open space – Well, when we have government that is owning land that we cannot build homes on, then what happens is the price of homes goes up. And so we need to, I think, relax some of those rules and regulations. The other thing that we have to look at, though, is our resources. And that is water, schools, traffic. with these denser and denser neighborhoods that puts more of a strain on resources. And we are not asking those questions. And so I think all those questions need to be asked. But again, you can get the information on all that by going to Rooted in Littleton and Yes on 3A, which is a ballot question that the citizens want to have on the ballot to just ask other citizens what they think And their city, their representatives, and they pay taxes into that, are using those resources to sue the people to say, no, we don’t want to have that question on the ballot. It’s out of control here, my friends, and we’ve got to reclaim our communities and reclaim the Colorado that we love. So another interesting headline is we are seeing, in a way, bailouts of bad decisions by electeds. And this one is from the Denver Downtown Development Authority was joined by Denver Mayor Mike Johnston on the 16th Street recently to announce that the board was well on its way to purchasing the Denver pavilions. The Denver Pavilions is a shopping district that takes up two city blocks between 15th and 16th streets between Welton and Tremont. The city leaders announced that the Denver Downtown Development Authority plans to purchase the site for $37 million. I think just last election cycle, There was a question on the ballot for either additional taxes or additional money for the Denver Downtown Development Authority. Never thought that that would mean that the city was going to be buying property. And in a way, this might be a bailout for developers regarding the pavilions. And, of course, you also have to look at public policy issues. that because Denver has become dirty and dangerous and dysfunctional, people have not been going downtown. And then, of course, those businesses that had been in the pavilions suffer because of bad policy. And now you’ve got government coming in, taxing people to buy land, which I don’t think that is the proper role of government. So anyway, they’re going to put together a master plan And they said they’re going to bring in an international specialist to partner with us in restoring and enriching the Denver pavilions. Quite frankly, Mike Johnston, the mayor, and the Denver City Council can’t seem to run the city. I’m not sure how they think that they’re going to run a business. So anyway, stay tuned on that as well. So several things. I always like to get some of my thank yous out there. And one of those is to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. Because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power from naturally occurring hydrocarbons that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. and so thank you to laramie energy for their gold sponsorship of the show and also wanted to to mention little ritchie’s i love italian food and from parker to golden little ritchie’s pizza and pasta is your go-to for real new york style pizza hearty pastas and that unbeatable local vibe little ritchie’s is serving up daily specials quick and tasty weekday lunch deals and a happy hour the locals actually build their plans around So whether you’re bringing the crew, catching up with friends, or flying solo for a hot slice, Little Richie’s is your neighborhood hangout. Some of the other headlines that I wanted to mention is this is just crazy what we have seen regarding the Des Moines superintendent. In Des Moines, Iowa, the superintendent was here illegally and apparently had not been truthful on his employment application. And you got to wonder how on earth this could ever happen. And so anyway, we’ve got crazy stuff that’s been happening in our community. country and in our communities and we are shedding light on these things so that we can reclaim our communities and reclaim the colorado that we love and these important discussions happen because of our sponsors and really a great story with roger mangan and mitch gardner in our number one like a good good neighbor the roger mangan state farm insurance team is there
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. And be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And I did want to mention Mint Financial Strategies. They are doing amazing work, and financial freedom starts with the right guide. Mint Financial Strategies can help. They’re an independent firm with over 25 years of experience, and their credentials have an accredited investment fiduciary. They offer advice that’s focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. That’s 303-285-3080. And regarding the subject that I mentioned with the city of Denver buying the Denver pavilions, using tax money to do so, this came in on the text line, and I do want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. First thing is, when government owns land, it also takes that property off the tax rolls. And since the budgets don’t go down, taxpayers subsidize the government property through higher property taxes. And this is from Susan. She said cities have become big developers spending lots of tax money without taking any of the risks, and they are using zoning to help them take the property. I think that both of our listeners have nailed that on that. And property rights is inherent in the American idea. So let’s get to our guest here. Jan Jekielek, excuse me, Jan Jekielek, I got to get that right. Jan Jekielek is a senior editor with the Epoch Times, host of the show American Thought Leaders. Jan’s career has spanned academia, international human rights work, and now for almost two decades, media. He’s interviewed nearly a thousand thought leaders on camera and specializes in long-form discussions challenging the grand narratives of our time. He’s also an award-winning documentary filmmaker producing The Unseen Crisis, DeSantis, Florida vs. Lockdowns, and Finding Manny. And so very pleased to have Jan Jekielek on the line with me. Jan, welcome.
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I’m so happy to be here, Kim. Thank you.
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Well, and we’re going to talk about a very serious subject, and that is a human organ harvesting that is happening in China. What should people know?
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We’ve heard about black market organ rings all over the world. There’s some in North America even. And just what happens in China is a whole different level. We’re talking about at scale forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience on demand. And let me break that down a little bit. So in an example, I’ll use an example. And this is the, I first started to realize this was real. When there was a case back in 2005 where there was a man who needed an urgent heart transplant, he wasn’t going to live. And, you know, in any civilized country, it takes sometimes years to get a transplant because you have to have, there has to be an accident and the person can’t be completely dead. They have to be brain dead, body alive. And then the match has to work on the blood type and the size has to be right. And, you know, it’s just… Whole series of actions that have to happen in order to get the right fit. And so you wait years and sometimes you won’t make it because you can’t get one. But in China, this guy had it organized within two weeks. And he even knew the date that it was going to be done. And he told his transplant surgeon about this. And the transplant surgeon said, this is absolutely impossible. Because the only way that you could know when it’s going to happen is you’ll know when that person will be dead. And the only way you could know he’s going to be dead is if someone’s making them that way. And so this opened up this whole world.
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Was this guy in America or was he in China?
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So this was actually an Israeli. Okay. And because there’s this transplant tourism that’s happened from all over the world, but actually because of this case, the guy who, the transplant surgeon, his name was Jacob Levy. And he had actually, he was a child of Holocaust survivors, if I’m not mistaken, and he actually campaigned hard over the next few years to create laws that would prevent the socialized medical system in Israel from paying for China transplants because he saw something grossly unethical was happening. Yeah.
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So, and you call this transplant tourism?
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Right. So it becomes transplant tourism when you go to another country, right, or, for example, to get an organ. So, yeah, the people that are getting these transplants, people sometimes, and to give you another sense, right, I know of a case, I know of one case in the early 2000s where someone got a new liver in three days. And I know of one case which is almost unfathomable, and I just learned about this from a German doctor who had been an explant surgeon, someone who would remove organs from people, and then there would be other teams that would transplant, where there was a woman in Germany who had a rare blood type AB, and she was a heavy drinker, so she had severe liver problems. And she was able to source a liver in China within six months for this very rare blood type and got it done. And then because she kept drinking, that liver failed. And she went and got another liver in China, again for the same rare blood type. And she actually did that three times. And this actually happened. You know, so it’s hard to wrap our minds around that there could be a place where, you know, because they’ve taken over the years different groups. It started with the Falun Gong. I can explain that. And it looks like it’s also shifted to the Uyghur population when you have large numbers of people incarcerated in a prison and labor camp system. And what you can do, and this is what they’ve done, you can blood type them and tissue type them ahead of time, create a database. And then, and this is the title of the book that I’m writing, you can actually kill to order, right? Which is why you can schedule the date and why you have these unbelievably short wait times. Because as soon as the cash comes through, as soon as the check gets cashed, You’re basically in a situation where you can find the person and kill them to order. It’s terrible. It’s terrible and unfathomable almost.
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So it’s money that’s driving this, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
So there’s two things happening. Absolutely, money is a big deal. David Matus, who’s one of the really big experts on this, he’s been working on this for over 20 years. He estimates it’s about a $9 billion a year industry. So that’s obviously significant. But do you remember there was this Xi Jinping Putin hot mic a couple of weeks ago, right? And the way this goes down is, you know, Xi is telling Putin, you know, if you’re seven years old, I’m paraphrasing just to make it quick, but if you’re seven years old for us, you’re just a baby, right? And then Putin says, well, through continual organ transplantation, we can perhaps even achieve immortality. And she says in response, so I’ll probably 150 years will work. And that’s actually that refers to this project, which the Chinese Communist Party has that is to to help people the elites of course not not not the common person get that longevity right of 150 years so basically what it means for if you’re a chinese super elite is that there’s seven million of those people in the country um you have unlimited access to organ transplants on demand forever So there’s something more than a profit motive there, right? Because it’s basically life in a way, longevity in a way that is inaccessible to most of us if you have no moral boundaries.
SPEAKER 15 :
Jan Jekielek, we’ve heard the stories of World War II and the experimental or experimentation on well twins by Hitler and I I’m sitting here thinking oh my gosh as I’m sitting here in America this is happening in 2025 and what can we do about it
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me just qualify. You’re so on point, and I just want to sort of highlight how on point you are, right? They built this system. They were already killing some death row prisoners and things like this for people like that, for organs, experimenting with them as early as in the 1990s, okay? But then in 1999, there was this group called Falun Gong. They practiced truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, very popular, very grassroots. grew into a giant movement of 70 to 100 million people, bigger than the Communist Party. So the regime attacked them, kind of like in 89, the students were attacked. They were the group that became the enemy internally. This became the group that was the enemy internally. And that’s when the Chinese transplant system explodes. OK, it grows almost exponentially for quite a number of years because and this is when they put millions into the forced labor camp system. And then because nobody and prisons and because nobody actually did anything about it, except the odd case. I gave you the example in Israel where they passed that law. There were a few examples of people trying to deal with it. Then there was you’re probably aware that there’s this ethnic minority in the northwest in China called the Uyghurs. Right. And they’re actually and similarly in recent years, they’ve incarcerated millions of them. And we believe that this has shifted to them. And the U.S. officially calls that a genocide, by the way. And I would argue that what’s happening against the Falun Gong and also the Tibetans could also qualify as that. But the point is, you’re so on point. And the thing is, there’s a lot of opportunity for these kinds of experiments, like you mentioned, right? So we don’t actually… know what they’re doing. I’ve been hearing stories and I haven’t been able to verify this. I’m looking into it right now of actually, you know, sort of children being kind of farmed for this. I can’t verify, but it’s like, but again, when there’s no moral boundaries, it’s really, you know, only what you’re capable of doing. What can we do to stop? So now I’m going to answer your question, okay? What can we do to stop it? It’s also an unusually good time to act right now. And I’ll explain why. One is there’s a survivor of this, which I never thought we’d ever see. But there’s actually a guy who survived getting part of his liver removed and part of his lung removed. And lived to tell the tale. And he was rescued by a former assistant secretary of state while he was still assistant secretary of state in Trump 45. And he lives in America. And that kind of blew the top off it a bit. There was a lot more media coverage last year around this. And that actually triggered a whole bunch of legislation. There’s two federal pieces of legislation. One is called the Falun Gong Protection Act. Another one is called the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act. And there’s a third one. And both of those are kind of they do sanctions against people who are involved in this. And they also do kind of reporting. And this actually makes a difference because a lot of these the Chinese elite super elites, they have exit strategies to America. America is the place everyone wants to go. You know, whatever we were kind of down on America a bit here. But for most of the rest of the world, it’s a pretty fantastic place, especially for Chinese super elites when they have a kind of a crumbling system. They want to be able to have that exit strategy. If they’re sanctioned, they won’t be able to get it. So the point is, if we enact this legislation here, that will actually get a whole bunch of people who are involved in that system to stop. And that will save some lives for sure. Right. So there’s ways we can actually make a difference right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation, the official marine memorials right here in Golden, Colorado. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation, and her team are doing amazing work taking care of the memorial as well as raising money for the new remodel. So support them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m talking with Jan Jekielek. He is a senior editor with the Epoch Times and host of the show American Thought Leaders. Jan, you said that there’s some legislation, two pieces of legislation here in America that could start to address this forced human organ harvesting in America. China, it sure seems like that should be unanimous of our senators and congressmen and women to want to support this. What’s the political landscape look like on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Fantastic question. OK, so both of those two pieces of legislation actually passed the House. One found on protection act completely unanimously and the second one with one dissent. So it’s really the kind of thing that once it gets to a vote, I don’t think a lot of people are going to want to vote against it for obvious reasons. And a lot of people want to vote for it. So now it’s actually in the Senate, both the Falun Gong Protection Act and the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act are in the Senate. And I would, you know, it’s just a matter of getting it on the floor, I think. Right. And I mean, there’s people that are much smarter than I am. I’m not a I’m not a political operator. Right. But but, you know, I think I think that people calling their their senators would make a huge difference to get this. I think that I particularly am interested in seeing the Falun Gong Protection Act passed. One is because it would be the first legislation that actually names the Falun Gong in legislation. You know, there’s been sort of focuses on Tibetan persecution and Uyghur persecution. Certainly the Falun Gong deserve to be named as the kind of the largest group that’s being suppressed. over there in very extreme ways, I might add. So I think that could make a huge difference personally. There is a third piece of legislation, by the way, which is something like what was done in Israel. Back in 2008, I think that legislation was passed. There’s six states that have passed legislation that basically says Medicare and insurance can’t pay for China transplants. And now there’s a federal piece of legislation that’s in committee that might get out onto the floor in the House. So there’s actually three pieces of legislation that you could look at.
SPEAKER 15 :
When you say that, I want to say, well, duh, of course we shouldn’t be doing that. But talking about the politics on this, I’ve watched politics enough that I think that I’ve become cynical. And you said, if it can get to a vote. So there are senators that obviously would not vote against this. But from a strategic standpoint, there might be influences to keep it from getting to the floor. And I know that sounds cynical, but I’ve seen that happen, Jan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would imagine, okay, the Chinese Communist Party, you know, unfortunately, Washington, D.C. is awash with CCP money, right? And when I say, by the way, the reason I separate the CCP and China, right, is because the Chinese Communist Party is is not the chinese people even though it wants everyone to believe that right um and chinese people a whole different picture you know there’s there’s a whole movement in china for example to quit the communist party there’s over 450 million people that have So a pretty significant chunk of the population have actually done that privately. That’s a whole different discussion we could have about how that’s happening. But there’s a lot of money, and I do think there’s probably a lot of pressure to prevent this bill because once it’s law, right, This is just something that nobody will ever want to admit to, right? And the way that the CCP, of course, says that this is all terrible propaganda against it and unfair. Now, the crazy part is that they didn’t even have an organ donation system until 2015. We don’t really believe they have a real organ donation system now, but they didn’t even pretend to have an organ donation system until 2015. But there’s another study that was done on their organ transplant numbers, which basically showed that the numbers were a perfect quadratic equation. In other words, it was they just invented the numbers. And there’s a whole lot of reasons why. But basically, they’ve been used. They were using prisoners for, you know. decades, and then they just kept using prisoners as far as I’m concerned. But now they say that there’s a system. Maybe it’s tiny, but if it is, it’s just a tiny component. And there’s no way to do this on-demand stuff, of course, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
So are any of these intakes on these organs, is that surgery happening in the United States? Or do people have to go outside the United States to do this?
SPEAKER 06 :
You have to go to China, basically, because you can’t translate an organ. The moment an organ is removed from a body. It starts to degrade and that actually happens really, really quickly. So you kind of need to be where the person who’s being transplanted from is. But to give you another example, there’s a paper in the American Journal of Transplantation from a few years back titled Execution by Organ Procurement. And in that paper, the researchers found that there’s at least 70 examples of scientific research papers that are coming out of China where the dead donor rule is being violated. Basically, what’s happening is the person is being killed by the process of the organs being extracted from them. And it’s so normalized there, this is how I interpreted it, that they don’t even notice and they write it into their scientific methods that they publish for the world to see.
SPEAKER 15 :
Do they use anesthesia?
SPEAKER 06 :
The answer is no. And the reason is because probably because it interferes with it can interfere with the organs taking hold. And again, you know, the people that are being used for these things have been dehumanized through horrible propaganda. You know, you made the connection to to the Third Reich. Right. It’s the same kind of talking points. In fact, some of them are almost identical that were used to dehumanize the Jews in the 30s and the 40s. are used against all these different groups, whether it’s the Uyghurs or the Falun Gong or Tibetans and so forth. Yeah, so these people are very heavily dehumanized in the eyes of the people that are doing this too, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and that’s the thing about communism is that it puts people into groups instead of recognizing the beauty of the individual, which is that’s the American idea is the sanctity of the individual. So when you put people into groups, you can demonize the group and you can do terrible things to groups. And that’s why this big battle of ideas that is occurring in our country right now, where there are those that want to put people into groups instead of recognizing the inherent power. beauty of each and every individual is so important. So this is a big battle of ideas that’s out there right now. Jan, this is fascinating and troubling. What’s your final thought on this?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I hope I want to encourage people if you’re if you’re into reading about this, I’m in the process of writing a book which outlines all of this and also how it’s titled Kill to Order China’s Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America’s Biggest Adversary. I think if you want to really understand how the Chinese Communist Party works, this book will help you understand that through the lens of this horrible organ harvesting industry. That’s coming out in February. It’s available for pre-order on Amazon and other places. I saw even Target has it on pre-order, which is great to see. But anyway, that would be a start. And also, if you go, you can go to theepochtimes.com, right? That’s our website. And I have a show there called American Thought Leaders. And we have a lot of, we cover this issue probably more than any other media.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, this is so important. So important. So Jan Jekielek, thank you so much. And again, he’s a senior editor with the Epoch Times. Let’s stay in touch.
SPEAKER 06 :
I look forward to it, Kim. Thank you so much. This is a very thoughtful conversation. Really appreciate it.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And do check out the Center for American Values as well. They’re located in Pueblo. They’re nonpolitical. They’re nonpartisan. They’re focusing on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. So be sure and check that out. On the line with me is Colorado Representative Ken DeGraff. And we talked with Joe Whitney in the first hour, was rooted in Littleton, and talked about how important it is that the people that we elect are representatives of the people instead of special interests. And as you all know, I’m president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we are putting the finishing touches on our ratings report, so it should be published probably by the end of the week. And what we look at is different legislation. In fact, we took positions on well over 260 pieces of legislation. And then we rate… legislators on that big amount of legislation. And for any legislator that gets 80% to 89%, they are noted as a cut guardian, a Colorado Union of Taxpayers guardian. And that means they’re protecting the taxpayer and They’re protecting property rights, parental choice, and TABOR, Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And I’m very pleased to congratulate the legislator that we have on the line with us, Representative Ken DeGraff, as a cut guardian. Welcome, Representative DeGraff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you, Kim. CUT has been a tremendous, tremendous resource for us at the Capitol. And I couldn’t agree more. The people need to support the candidates who are actually supporting the constitutional value, is what I’m finding. There is that the special interest, like you mentioned, the special interest, the special money, the special investors, they what they want is mediocrity. They want mediocrity. They want mediocrity. So it’s dependent on those special interests. and what the what we need to do to get their big money out is we need to get little money in and so we need the individuals in colorado to to actually step up and displace that money so that we can get these candidates more of the candidates that will actually support these values because this is not going to be done by the big the big money that is supporting certain candidates
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and what I have seen is the consultant class, they’re using the narrative of balance, that we want more balance down at the statehouse. And you’re seeing that on both sides of the aisle. And actually, we’re seeing that balance they’re talking about is you mentioned mediocrity. I’m going to say even worse than mediocrity, because you said something over this Polly score. It’s an AI impact analysis service. And, man, they really went after you, saying that you were – if you really look at it, though, you’re not kowtowing to special interests. So a number of things here. The titles may sound good, but when you really look at it, it’s bureaucrats, bureaucracies that are not getting the job done. There’s a whole bunch of things regarding education. Representative DeGraff, our kids, throughout Colorado, there’s school districts where kids are not reading and writing at proficient level. And there may be, on average, I would say, only 30% of our kids are hitting that benchmark. But there’s school districts that are not even hitting that. But, man, they still want more money, more money, more money. And you voted no on those things.
SPEAKER 09 :
I did, Kim. And one of the things on that poly score, that AI that I sent over, the progressive one, that’s kind of the antithesis of cut, is one thing is they look at, they just, they go by the bill title, apparently. And one of the things that people need to realize is when they’re looking at legislation is what I call legislation 101 is what it says it is, it ain’t. What the bill says it is. has very little to do with what is actually in the bill. So when they say, hey, this is a bill to help schools, it might have some part of that. But it’s really something entirely different. So that score actually being a low score is, in my mind, good. But you’ll see the Democrats score very high on that, where they’ll score very low on yours. And you are right about balance, because these same special interests pay – They don’t have any issue with paying on the Democrat side to have very radical leftist views, but then they want to pay on the Republican side. They contribute to the Republicans who are doing what they consider a – you know, a middle of the road, what they call a middle of the road, which is just where you get hit by cars from both ways. And, you know, in one sense, I mean, going back to your previous conversation about, you know, the horror of unanesthetized organ removal, we have that same thing in the United States with the fetal harvesting industry. So that the Democrats voted, they voted down even anesthetizing drugs unborn persons before they’re subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. And so we have that same thing in this country. And what’s gotten us to that same point is the search for mediocrity, to say that we want to be in the middle, we don’t want to offend anybody, we don’t want… And so the special interests fund very far left, and then they fund the Republican side too often to stay in the middle. And what that does is it gives the – it gives the – It gives the governor, really, it gives him a bipartisan cover, and he can claim bipartisanship with at least one Republican voting on the bill, and those special investors keep him in. What we need to do, we have a million Republicans. If the million Republicans gave $500 million specifically towards constitutional values, we’d have $500 million to support constitutional values. candidates, where instead we’re clamped, we’re scraping together to try to get special interest money. And that special interest, that special investor money comes with a level of guilty that is that that’s keeping us from actually achieving our goals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and with that, I’d really recommend that people support CUT as well, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Absolutely. To join, it’s only $25. And that’s a year. That’s about $2.08 a month. And you will be so informed. And let me just say thank you to that team. This is all volunteers. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson. Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. When you see these folks out there, say thank you and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. So Representative DeGraff, unbelievable. 768 bills or resolutions were passed. introduced in the regular session, and then there was another, I think, 13 in the special session, which that was really just a pickpocket of a variety of things. But CUT took positions on 273 bills. And when you see the CUT report, It’s not political. We have looked at these different bills through this lens of protecting property rights, protecting the taxpayer, protecting Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, and parental rights. So when you see how these people are rated, it is just very informative. We’re not into politics, and we really look at the issues, and I think it’s important to understand that. So getting a rating as a cut guardian is a big deal representative to Graf.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. And for the people out there listening, it is a good investment because it’s a lot of extra sets of eyes. And you can see how much work it is to do 260 bills. And then when you consider that or 273 bills, when you consider that there’s, in this case, 781 that were considered in that 100 days, it’s pretty easy to see that government is being done to us, not for us. And the continual compromise is something that we need to stand up against, and that’s going to take the individuals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, absolutely. So when you see this AI-generated poly score and a candidate is getting unfavorable marks on it, you should probably say, ah, that means that they are standing up for the people and representing us. And we’ve not been paying attention. We’ve let this happen here in Colorado. I I know you are. I am working as well. We’ve got to reclaim this state, and we can do that. We’ve got a couple of minutes left, Representative DeGraff. What’s your final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I’d like to… But that that self-governance is not a spectator sport. You know, we have we need everybody. We need boots on the ground. We need people. We need money and we need money in our coffers. And now that money needs to be invested smartly. It needs to. I’ll be standing up a organ. I’m in the process of standing up an organization to support constitutional rights. focused candidates so that we’re not reliant on a system of doling out. And there’s a pro-family constitution that Brandy Bradley is working on. And those things are where you need to put your money if you want to have. But you do need to put your money. It’s essentially… It’s essentially a vote for the values, and people look at how much money is there, and they judge what candidates that they will attack and that they will consider vulnerable based on the money that’s there. So if you like a constitutional candidate, it’s going to take backing. One of the most valuable things can be, if you don’t have the money to do it, is to get organized into the – the door-knocking campaigns and take that message directly to the people. But too often we have people that say, well, I’ll give money when there are good candidates. And the special investors are never going to give you good candidates because they don’t want your money. They want you to stay out of it. So you’re going to have to invest outside of that, and you’re going to have to displace the big money if you want to have that voice in politics.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, keep us in the loop as you’re developing this representative to graph because this is very important. And we’re out of time. How can people get more information about you?
SPEAKER 09 :
My website currently is TheGraphForColorado.com, D-E-G-R-A-A-F, the number for Colorado.com. Okay. And we’re in the process of getting that more increasingly populated, and we’ll have more on our 501.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Thank you so much. And our quote for the end of the show is from Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. He said this, There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children. One of these is roots, and the other is wings. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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