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In this episode of Sportsman of Colorado, Scott Watley connects with Travis Peacock of Airgun Outdoors to discuss the innovative world of air guns and their growing popularity among hunters and outdoors enthusiasts. Delve into the fascinating transformation of airguns from historical artifacts to modern hunting tools. Discover how Airgun Outdoors is revolutionizing the hunting experience with their quiet, precise, and powerful airguns, making them the perfect tool for hunting small game and even larger prey. From hog hunts in Texas to customized shopper experiences, Travis shares his passion for airguns and the excitement of creating a dedicated store
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado’s premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado’s top outfitters featuring the industry’s leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here’s your host, Scott Watley.
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Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us on this beautiful day here in the Mile High City. And hey, let me just start out right now. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Hope everyone has a very, very wonderful Thanksgiving. Enjoy the time with their family and friends. And we have a lot to be thankful for in this country. And hopefully these next few years are going to get a lot better just with our country. And just hope everybody again has a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving. I just did not want to forget that. Well, hey, welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. We’ve got a great show in store for you. We’re going to kick it off with a great organization that we became aware of several months back, actually, of Mountains and Men. And this is a terrific organization. I will let Steve Osterholzer tell us all about it. He is the founder of it. But Steve, thanks for being with us today. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 12 :
I am doing outstanding, and thank you for having me on the show, and happy Thanksgiving ahead of time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. To you too, man, you and your family. All right, we’ve had you on several times. Some people, this is their first time to hear you. Tell us what Mountains and Men’s is all about.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sir, quick overview. So Abounds and Meant. So we are a 501c3 and our mission statement is to guide teens into Christian manhood. What we do is we focus on teenage boys who don’t have a father and also youth who do have a father in their life, but the dad needs a little bit of help. What we do is we help them on the road to Christian manhood in two ways. First, we’re taking them on wilderness trips. We’re doing big game hunts here in Colorado for both pronghorn and elk. We’re doing wilderness canoeing in Minnesota. We’re doing gator hunting of all things this coming August. down in Florida, and winter adventure trips in the mountains of New Mexico this coming March. And so these trips are critical in helping the young man gain the skills to result in competence. Competence is so important in order for them to become a man. Why we’re on these trips? We’re conducting our campfire talks. These are biblically-based talks. based upon the book Wild at Heart by John Eldredge. And it’s designed to help the young man begin to answer four questions. What’s it mean to be a man? How do I become one? How do I understand what a woman is all about? And finally, how do I become really alive? And we understand the kid’s not going to answer those questions in a four-day hunt or a nine-day wilderness canoe trip, but we can plant the seeds. We can get them thinking about these very important questions that every man struggles with on the road to manhood.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Well, again, We’re going to get you back on here in mid-December, I think it is. We’ve got you scheduled to kind of spend some more time. But I saw a post you did the other day, and I really wanted to get you on for this because we’ve got great listeners here to our show and on KLZ 560 as a whole. And these trips cost the young men zero. There is no cost to them. Everything is given to them. But you know what? It takes a lot of money to do that. So, Steve, you have a need. Tell us about it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we have a very specific need, and that is for purchasing binoculars for our upcoming big game hunts. Real quick, our big game hunts, boy, they’re blown up. We’ve gone from two kids on a deer hunt in 2019 to last year we took 20 young men hunting. That was for elk and for pronghorn. And this coming January, we are hunting, we have 28 cow elk tags of all things. We’ve got 28 young men who are going to be elk hunting for the very first time in their life. Some of them come from out of state and never seen snow. We’ve got kids coming from Florida and from Texas for their very first elk hunt. We just concluded our very successful pronghorn hunt in October. And all five young men tagged out. We were five for five and young men harvesting their big game animals. Well, for the listeners out there who have big game hunted, you know that having decent optics is very, very important. And so what we want to do as an organization, we want to buy six sets of binoculars to lend to the young men. So when they go on these trips, they’re not just having to trudge along after the guide and the guide is doing everything in the binoculars. They can’t see animals. They’re not really a part of it. We want to put a pair of quality binoculars in their hands so they can be more engaged in the trip. They can learn how to scan for animals. And to become more part of the hunt. You know, Scott, as you mentioned, all of our trips are 100% free for both the youth and the mentor that accompanies them. You know, it does take a large amount of money. Thanks to generous donors, we’re able to cover Nearly all the costs. Well, what we want to do is with our upcoming hunt in January on Cyber Monday, we want to purchase six pairs of decent binoculars. We’re looking at Vortex Diamondback 10 by 42 HDs. And we think we can get them for about two hundred dollars a pair. So what we’re asking people to consider is, hey, I want to invest. in a young man. I would like to go ahead and buy OMM a set of binoculars they’re going to be able to use for years where dozens of young men are going to have their big game hunt be even better because of their donation.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Well, I tell you what. You put Sportsman of Colorado Radio down for a pair, and we’ll do a pair.
SPEAKER 12 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 04 :
We’ll start it off. Thank you. All right? So, folks, listen. Thank you. I only got about 30 seconds here in this segment for Steve, but we will be getting back on. So, hey, help us out here. Get in touch with me at the station if you need to. My cell is 720-201-8585. Scott at sportsmanofcolorado.com. You can email me. Of Mountains and Men. We know this organization. We trust them. They’re doing a wonderful thing. actually changing the lives of young men let’s help them out 200 bucks hey let’s just blow it up and let’s get them done where steve can move on with other things all right so steve scott i just want to point out people can donate directly through our secure website www.ofmountainsandmen.org donation page they can go ahead and donate online and of course it’s tax deductible all right folks do it of mountains and men’s.org let’s take care of those binoculars for these young men steve appreciate it sir Thank you so much, Scott. All right, thank you. Tell you what, we’re going to hit our first break, and we’ll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman Colorado. Always good to have our good buddy, Travis Peacock. Airgun Outdoors. Now, you’ve heard Travis on the show several times. It just seems to be a few months in between each time, which is my fault. So, Travis, great to have you back in studio. How are you? Hey, great to be here, Scott.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 04 :
You bet. Hey, it’s Airgun Outdoors. They are located at 12543 North Highway 83, translation Parker Road. All right, so sounds like North Highway 83. Where is that and how far is that? Hey, it’s just on Parker Road. And that’s right off of Pine? Pine Lane. Pine Lane and Parker Road. All right. And their number is 720-603-3099. All right. First of all, let’s visit back. Uh, you came to the mile high hunting fish expo in April, and that was our first year for that at the gay Lord. Um, I’ve been asking people that we’ve had on the show, just as you look back on that expo and you’ve done other shows and stuff, um, your thoughts.
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I thought it was excellent. Um, They really did a great job with facilitating a great show. Lots of really good vendors, outstanding people. It was run very professionally. So from my standpoint as a vendor having a booth there, it was great. I would definitely be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And I tell you, I don’t know that there was just a vibe there of it’s hard to even. And I’ve told people I don’t really know how to explain it. But I think with just the different types of vendors and not just outfitters and things, but manufacturers, guns, archery stuff. I mean, just everything that was there. I mean, it just seemed like people really engaged with, you know, our manufacturers. display folks, the folks that had booths and everything. I don’t know. I think everybody loved being out at the Gaylord, too. That’s not a bad place to be at.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it was a great venue. Yeah, there was an excitement about it. I think part of it is it was all hunter-centric. It was outdoors, everything. Every booth was something. That was really nice. It was refreshing because nowadays you go to other shows and you’re inundated with you know, a lot of other stuff. So it’s nice to see everything, you know, from the outdoors world.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, right. And our wives usually don’t mind coming out to the Gaylord, right? No, not at all. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was, you know, it was just, you know, I don’t think I could pick apart anything that wasn’t, you know, just done really well.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, and there were some in the evenings. I mean, it was long days a little bit, but then we would end about six or so. And then both nights we had, you know, we had a real cool after party after Friday night, I think it was. And Saturday night we had this really nice banquet. A super nice breakfast buffet for the vendors and all. We’re like, wow, who does this? It was.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was just awesome, man. And just so many nice people. I met tons of other people at booths, and just the people running the show were super friendly. Right. Yeah, I will definitely be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
And more importantly, you sold a few guns there. So, hey, that’ll work out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Definitely. I’ve had several people come in that were at the show, and they just got kind of a taste. We had a line most days just explaining things. Right. That’s the thing with the high-powered precision air guns. I would say 80% of the people who walk through my door have absolutely no idea what they are until they walk in. My favorite part of my job, I would say, is explaining and sharing the hobby with people because it’s kind of foreign to a lot of folks. Everyone thinks airsoft or BB guns, and it’s completely not that. Completely.
SPEAKER 04 :
As you know. Which we’ll get into. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, you do you open your door and if you just take somebody in there and go, OK, what are you in right now? Well, I’m in a gun store, you know, which is partly true. But I mean, they do not look like the old. And I was teaching these other day when we went out shooting a little bit. I said, well, I used to have a Benjamin Crossman 22 caliber and had to pump it nine times or 10 times to shoot each time.
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And wow, has this changed. Definitely. The interesting thing is everyone’s like, well, this must be a new technology. It’s been around since, you know, the 1600s. Lewis and Clark had one on their expedition, a pre-charged pneumatic air gun. But this is, you know, as with everything, it’s evolved and evolved. Now, you know, I have everything from 17 to 50 caliber, and the performance is outstanding. The accuracy is amazing. Yeah, really accurate.
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Again, Travis Peacock is our guest. It’s Airgun Outdoors, 12543, I’m just going to say Parker Road. All right, and if you Google it, it’s going to say North Highway 83, but it’s right at Parker Road and Pine there. All right, now let’s recap a little bit about you folks that hadn’t heard you before. You’ve been doing this, what, 10, 11 years, 12?
SPEAKER 07 :
So in the air gun as a hobby, getting close to 20 years. Okay. Business-wise, I’m in my third year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, all right. I just knew you’ve been doing it a long, long time. Right. Wow. And what made you pick? I mean, a lot of things you could have looked at, you know, in the outdoor world. And what made you kind of want to go this direction?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think, you know, just the passion of, you know, I’m a big archery guy, too. So I was kind of like, do I go archery or do I go air guns? And there’s no other retailers like that. Of the caliber guns that I sell in the area. So that helped me make my decision, which it’s been a great decision. I’ve really enjoyed it. I’ve met so many nice people. And then just being able to – I would say probably on a weekly basis, I have five to ten people that come into my store, and they’re like – We’re so excited that there’s finally a real air gun store in the area instead of having to buy stuff online and have to deal with that. You want to take something, man, that’s for the family.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is it. I mean, if you live out anywhere where you’ve just got kind of a backyard, they’re so quiet.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s ridiculously quiet. And the accuracy, like I showed you the photo where we’ll literally shoot flies at 35 yards, individual flies. That’s how accurate the guns are. So things like that is I have guys literally that have a long basement, and they’ll set up a range in their basement because you don’t have powder. So you don’t have to worry about the toxic fumes and things like that. And the quiet, generally, your impact is louder than the shot. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, you mentioned from the caliber 17 to 50 and got to shoot the 50 the other day. And wow, the accuracy of that and still the quietness of that, it’s still targets. I mean, and the loudest noise. when you pull the trigger, it’s hitting a steel target. Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because it was shooting a 388-grain slug, and it wasn’t long-range. We were, I think, 7,500-yard, that type of distance, but it was rocking that 10-inch AR-500 steel plate like it was nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you’ve got something pretty cool coming up here in a couple weeks.
SPEAKER 07 :
I do, actually. A week from today, I take off to South Africa to hunt plains game with air guns.
SPEAKER 04 :
With air guns.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. So I’ve been trying to get this going for quite some time, and I’m actually working with an outfitter there. They’re trying to promote air gun hunting because they know that it’s gaining popularity all over the world. And so I’m going to work with them, get out, check things out. There are several different animals that are on the docket, so we’re going to get out there and see what we can come across. But taking a .50 caliber and a .457. Okay. Wow. Should be a lot of fun.
SPEAKER 04 :
Should be exciting, absolutely. All right. Somebody walks in, they kind of don’t know what they’re looking at. They got air guns. They see all these cool guns. How’s the conversation start when somebody, you know, hadn’t had one like me in 30 years? I mean, how do you find them kind of their direction there?
SPEAKER 07 :
So it’s use case. So the first thing I’ll ask is, you know, what are you going to be utilizing it for? Is it targets? Is it fun plinking? Is it competition hunting? Yeah. And then that’s kind of the start. And then the next would be budget. And then after that, we’ll go through form factor, things like that. We have bullpups. We have long guns. We have tactical looking. We have really nice laminate stocks or walnut. There’s a bunch of different options. So it’s kind of… Generally, when people are in the store, I’ll hand them a few guns and they know when they’ve grabbed something and feel it and shoulder it. And they’re like, OK, this is the fit. And then we work on getting it set up for what they’re going to be using. Like I have a lot of guys that are doing, you know, small game testing, stuff like that. Prairie dogs, coyotes. I have a bunch of guys that are doing hogs in other states. So, you know, then we go through and kind of, you know, tailor it to what they want to use it for.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And I’m looking forward. I think I’m going mid-November down to Texas to our friends at Lone Star Hunts for a hog hunt. And I’m definitely going to take this one that I got the other day. And, man, I can’t wait to just see what that’s like. And, again, if you do that, what you’re saying is a lot of these hog hunting places, especially, they’ll have archery stands there. And that’s where you say, hey, that’s a great place to sit, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. so that people understand why, you know, I would say, you know, get it a little bit closer because, you know, as you know, the pigs, they’re moving their heads constantly. We want to do a headshot if we can. So having it just a little bit closer, and we’re not doing 3,000 feet per second. So everything that I send out is generally subsonic. So, yeah. But if you have them, I mean, it can easily take a hog out at 50 yards, if not further, with a headshot. But as you know, they move so much, you want to try and mitigate any potential of them moving it as you’re getting ready to shoot. Right, right. Now, let’s take the one that I got.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And you kind of break it down because there’s a dial system on the back. Like if you’re just wanting to plink for a little bit and get extra shots, I guess we can say, you know, from the air tank and all that. So break it down in a professional level better than me of how all that works.
SPEAKER 07 :
No problem. So the gun that you’re talking about is the FX Maverick. It is a bullpup configuration, has a 700-millimeter barrel and a 580cc bottle. So the way that it works is you can increase your power, but then your shot count will go down. And it’s vice versa. As you go up with one, the other goes down. So if you’re going to just plink with it, there is a quick-tune system where you can just dial your hammer spring preload. So that you can say, hey, I want to just go plink in the backyard or someplace. I don’t need power, but I want shot count. You can dial that down, and it’s going to decrease your velocity but increase your shot count. And then you’re like, hey, this weekend I’m going to go shoot hogs or prairie dogs or something. I want more performance. You just dial it up. Obviously, you just adjust your zero for that change in performance. But as you saw, I mean, it’s – you know, you can pretty much dial that gun into whichever situation you’re in.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was unbelievable. And, you know, again, you say air rifle. Of course, it’s quiet. But I’m telling you, until you really experience it – you know out shooting as we were doing the other day uh i just could not believe how quiet and yet how effective you took out several prairie dogs and it was the impact on the prairie dog at you know yeah 100 yards was louder than the shot it actually was yeah and you’re not disturbing everything else around you know a lot of times these may be on some um properties and maybe there’s horses around or cattle around and you don’t want to disturb other game you know with a with a 22 even, you know, and that air rock, man, it’s just, I mean, it’s just unreal.
SPEAKER 07 :
And yours is a 25 caliber. So, you know, you can go up into the, you know, 30, 40, 50 grain projectiles with that. And we have it set up shooting slugs. So better ballistic coefficient, you’re going to reach out. And I had mentioned before to you, there was a property that we took 2,100 prairie dogs off of that was just infested. They couldn’t even run cattle because they had, eaten everything and with that there was adjacent properties that were shooting 17 HMR 22 and they would have to wait because the noise would of the supersonic crack and just the muzzle noise was scaring the prairie dogs and then they’d be gone for 15 minutes and with air guns they have absolutely no idea and you could just if you need to do some mitigation you can definitely do that
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Once again, it’s Airgun Outdoors, 12543 North Highway 83. That’s what it’s going to say if you Google them. It’s just right off Parker Road and Pine Lane. Again, the number is 720-603-3099. Now, make sure I get this in. The first Saturday of every month, you have kind of a get-together there, and everybody’s welcome to come in and chat. That’s got to be a cool thing. I’m going to try to get by there one of these Saturdays and come to that. So tell us about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, definitely. It’s called Good Morning Airguns, so I bring in coffee and donuts. Local airgun folks come in, and also it’s always an open invitation to anybody that wants to come check things out and meet other people that are in the sport. The community outreach is kind of a big deal to me. I like that aspect of it. You don’t always have to take my word. There’s other guys there. You can be like, hey, what do you do? There’s groups of guys that’ll get together and shoot. It’s a really good time. I enjoy doing it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Charlie, gentleman, that was another day when I was there. We ended up having a great conversation. We’ve known each other a little bit, but never really had a lot of time to visit. Man, you can just learn a lot and see what other guys are liking, see what they’re shooting, see what they’re doing. It’s a lot of fun for sure. Now, One thing I really love about your operation is this. You walk in, you get an air rifle. You walk out, you need nothing else. Okay, meaning you’ve got everything right there I need. So, extra, you know, the tanks, you know, that you can do to fill up, the compressors for them. You’ve got optics. So… I mean, you got pellets, so, I mean, we’re good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and that’s the thing is it’s a one-stop. I mean, you don’t have to worry about, hey, I can’t find it. I’ve got to order it. I’ve got everything. And that’s the nice thing about air guns is the ammo is ridiculously cheap, and it’s always available. I mean, I remember chasing down firearms ammo. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. when it was like empty shelves. I know we’re in a better position now, but when things get crazy like that and shelves start getting wiped out, that’s one really nice thing is I always have ammo. And when somebody comes in and buys a gun, It’s not just here’s your gun, see you later. I give everybody a card. I tell everybody there’s no dumb question. If you have any issues, questions, call me. I’m always there. And the nice thing is I have a lot of guys that will come in and they’re buying. cheaper stuff online and it’s breaking and they have to send it back to the manufacturer and things like that. If there’s issues on my end, which is very rare, I’m right here. And I always put an emphasis on taking care of my customers. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, optics. Let’s spend a couple of minutes there. As a matter of fact, the gentleman I just mentioned, he was telling me, he goes, Scott, he goes, I’ve had all the high-end scopes. I mean, three, four, five thousand dollar scope. But he likes one that you carry. And it saves him a lot of money. He can put more money into a gun and still have great optics. So talk about what you cover there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and that’s just it. I mean, most people think, well, you have an air gun store, you have air gun specific. I mean, my optics, you can run on pretty much anything. I have night vision. I have thermal optics. I have optics from Arkin is probably my top seller. I have Element Optics, Athlon. I can get others through distributors, but those are the ones that I mainly stock. My night vision and thermal I have from a company called Pard, which actually have a thermal sitting right here. So they’re going to check out. Yeah. But just a blast, you know, being able to take a super accurate gun and put a really nice optic on it and seeing the performance from both sides. Right, right. Anything we missed? I think the biggest thing is people’s misconception of what air guns are. So if you go out and do a YouTube search for air gun hunting, it’ll probably surprise people what you can do. I mean, they’ve taken Cape Buffalo in Africa. I don’t think we’re going to be doing any Cape Buffalo, but we’re definitely looking at some of the larger planes games. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, it’s going to be so cool. And I appreciate you taking me out the other day and letting me shoot some. And man, I mean, again, folks, if you’re looking for something that’s just totally, totally fun. And again, for kids, it’s great. You can teach them firearm safety. You can teach them, you know, how to properly shoot and, you know, squeeze in a trigger and not jerk. I mean, there’s so much you can do with kids and they’re going to love it. I’ve seen so many times and I’ve seen videos where people give kids a gun they shouldn’t be shooting. It kicks them, the kid falls back, and everybody laughs. Well, that’s not fun for the kid.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and so the air guns, there’s no recoil.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, there’s zero.
SPEAKER 07 :
Even the .50 cal is very minimal. You don’t even feel it, yeah. And then, you know, the noise.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
90% of the cases, it’s the hearing protection. It’s not even. Oh, no. Because it’s nothing. So, yeah, it’s, I mean, if you’re looking for something fun like that. Recently, like I said, I had set up a bunch of guns for people hog hunting in Oklahoma and Florida and Texas. But another, I’m doing a lot of coyote guns. So guys that are having predator problems. these are an outstanding solution because you have one come in, you take it out, and the other one that’s 200 yards away has no clue what happened. So it’s not one shot, and then you’re done at that location. So that’s been a lot of fun, getting those guns set up as well. But totally family-centric. You could have lots of folks that… It’s a funny story. I’ll have a guy come in, and he gets an air gun, and he’s like, I can’t tell my wife, you know? And then he’ll be back in three days later with her because now she wants one. Oh, really? Yeah, because she shot his gun, and she was like, this is amazing.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s fun, man. Well, hey, it’s Airgun Outdoors, and that really is spelled fun, fun, fun. All right, hey, it’s 12543 North Highway 83. Again, that’s just Parker Road and Pine. Their number is 720-603-3099. When you go in, I don’t know if you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado, and we’d appreciate that as well. Travis is a great guy. Hey, don’t forget the first Saturday of every month. What time do you open?
SPEAKER 07 :
On Saturdays, it’s 9 a.m.
SPEAKER 04 :
9 a.m. on Saturday and 11 a.m. during the week, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Donut day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Other than that, it’s 10 o’clock on Saturday. Oh, 10 o’clock. Okay, all right, cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, man, thanks so much.
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SPEAKER 10 :
You’re listening to AM560 KLZ, your home station.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Hey, thanks so much for being with us. Good luck to everyone out there in the archery world right now going on. And I’ve seen some great pictures on social media so far, which have, man, I did not draw an elk tag. I didn’t draw a deer tag. Kevin Flash is with us. So Kevin’s wiped that tear for me. But good luck to everyone. We got a great interview here for you now. Now, back in April, of course, we had our Mile High Hunting and Fishing Expo. And by the way, we will be back at the Gaylord next April. And boy, Kevin, was that a good… It was an awesome show.
SPEAKER 13 :
It seems so long ago now.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. It does.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m looking forward to next year. And I know the guys are busy lining things up and you’re helping them out. It’s going to be awesome. Lots of good things that continue the growth there. So it’ll be awesome to see.
SPEAKER 04 :
And one of our attendees there, a good buddy of mine and… Kind of a relative in a roundabout way, almost. Brian Dean, Coldwater Outfitters. How are you, bud?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, can’t complain. It’s a good Saturday morning up here in the Dakotas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, good deal, man. Now, Brian, you were there at the Mile High Hunting and Fish Expo, and this is live. So, man, just kind of give your thoughts about the expo.
SPEAKER 05 :
I appreciated the fact that everything there was related to hunting, and it wasn’t— popcorn vendors. Dips and chips. And, you know, in the things that are kind of a stretch to include in the hunting world, you can, honestly, if you were after birds, if you were after upland deer, elk, you could find somebody there to talk to, somebody to get some information from you used products that were there. So I think the guys that ran that show, Abe and them guys did a really good job filtering through and getting information concentrating the areas of people like this is actually what guys use. Not, hey, how about this jelly? We have enough of those. So I think they did a really good job in that aspect, really just getting core hunting And fishing people in there that people could relate to. And I thought they did a great job.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Well, and certainly for you, I mean, you’re making the trip from the Dakotas. So, you know, you’re coming over here to try to drum up some business and tell people about what you do. And we’re coming into your season, aren’t we?
SPEAKER 05 :
We started our season, we dropped our first inner velvet muley down in South Dakota last week.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, you did?
SPEAKER 05 :
We are there, we are fair and square, and we’re rocking and rolling. Yeah. We’re ready to go.
SPEAKER 13 :
The problem with your area of the world right now is that there are too many things to do. You’ve got two, you know, you’ve got the mule deer, you’ve got the ducks and geese.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s not a problem, you’re saying that wrong.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, right? I mean, and the fishing gets really good this time of year, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re right, yeah, and that’s one of the things for an outfitter like myself, you have to pick… what you’re going to do and when you’re going to do it because you could drive yourself nuts, you know, trying to keep up with everything we do. That’s why we concentrate all of our walleye catching and fishing in the spring before we go down to North Carolina for out-of-bank stuff. And right now we’ve got, from now until right before Thanksgiving, we’ve got anywhere from six to ten people a day down at our pheasant camp down in South Dakota and then our waterfowl lodge. kicks off at the end of this month with non-resident on the 28th i think this year so then we’ll have 18 20 people every day from then till uh thanksgiving so we’re running 40 45 people a day in two different locations and this is our this is our crazy season but you can’t you know if you try that and then you try to dip into fishing and you try to oh yeah there’s endless things that you can hunt up in the dakotas year round and it’s uh you gotta pick what you gotta pick what you can do well and stick with it yeah for sure did you guys have a cool morning today Oh, yeah. It was 40, 43 degrees.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Yeah. Back at my place in northern Wisconsin, it was 36 degrees this morning. And I was like, oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 05 :
I wish it would tip a little bit before our youth season kicks off this next Saturday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So all my boys are ripping and roaring to get out. And I hope we get like one. just below freezing, like if it touches it, then the mosquitoes will die.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or else we’re going to be in swim trunks and tank tops, mosquito spray, trying to keep every, you know, because the ducks are here, it’s going to be an incredible year.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
We had a lot of water this summer and spring, and there’s a lot of birds around. A lot of birds, good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. So, Brian, kind of walk us through just a little bit to give folks a little bit of a taste kind of about you. And, you know, I remember back when your early conversations when you were going to get this business going. Oh, yeah. But, you know, and you’ve been – I mean, hey, you know, we got together on an elk hunt over on the Western Slope a few years ago. So you’ve been with other outfitters and things. So as you kind of put your program together, what were some of the points that you said, hey, I want to make sure, you know, that – that we really offer a great service because we’ve all been with deals we could see improvements on. So what was kind of your mission and your points there?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it was funny because before I knew you were going to call me, I was like, man, this kind of started with Scott because I remember exactly where I was at in my driveway when I was in my truck when I called you a couple years ago trying to see, man, what do you think? Honestly, I called a lot of people that were in the business, and probably the best thing that I did was I called people that had gotten out of the business and asked them, Like what went wrong? You know, if you could do it all over again, what’s a couple of things you would change? Um, in, in the commonality and really what I had found and kind of read between the lines is when guys go from making it a business about hunting, rather than making it a business about hospitality. That’s where, that’s where the difference is. Cause it’s the, the, the companies in my, in my circles, I think that really thrive are the guys that you go out, it’s a bluebird morning. There’s no wind. and the birds don’t fly, well, you have to deal with those 18 people back at camp, and you have to have them enjoy their day, right? Because if you didn’t shoot a bird, you didn’t pull the trigger one time. And those are the guys, if you can do the hospitality side of things and you can knock, I tell all the guys that come on board with us, the things we can control, effort, timeliness, food, hospitality as far as the lodge and making sure it’s clean, if we knock those four things or five things out of the park, the rest of it takes care of itself. Because guys that come on trips, they understand, hey, we’re not going to do, nobody’s going to do 10 out of 10 every single day. Nobody’s going to limit out every single time. So it’s the other side of things when you can take care of people on the back end and make sure that they’re happy and it’s easy to be a guy when you’re slaying everything. That’s the easiest job in the world, right? Absolutely, yeah. The good guides and the good outfitters are the ones that guys feel appreciated and they understand that the effort went into it and there’s nothing we can do about it and they rebook, those are the customers that are like, these guys understand. And it makes, you know, it just makes camp easier when you learn how to take care of people and understand, yes, it’s a hunting business, but ultimately, you know, these are guys that have, you know, saved up for a couple years to come on this trip and they want to have a good time with their buddies or, you know, it’s a couple that’s coming for the first time trying a new experience and you’re just trying to take care of people more like a hospitality business rather than just your focus is mainly on hunting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure. No, I was talking with Fred Eichler a couple of years ago. I don’t know if you know Fred, but he was, uh, he was actually at the expo, but I just said, how do you vet someplace that you’ve never been or an outfitter? And he said, what you just said, he said, I want to talk to people that were there that were not successful on their hunt.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because if they say I’m rebooking, you know, just because of everything that you just mentioned. Okay. Because again, it’s hunting and it’s fishing, whatever we’re doing. And, uh, But he said, that’s who I want to talk to because if they’re still positive about the deal, then I have no problem going there.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think as well, those days that you don’t pull a trigger or you don’t catch fish, those are the days you learn so much too because then you see, you know, what you do to try to eke out that set that comes in or, you know, whatever that really tries to help you down the road. And the guides that are working like that, that are really talking to people that aren’t, you know,
SPEAKER 05 :
cussing and and and yelling at everybody about this or that and they’re frustrated too the ones that are really working are the ones that you’re like i want to come back because when we are slaying it where it’s going to be really good and it’s going to be fun you know what i mean you’re right yeah and that’s one of the things early on we did why we decided that we’re not doing any one-day trips yeah you can’t because it’s it’s tough i mean my wife will write a book about all the mistakes i made and how i’m not perfect right it goes it goes in the guidebook we make mistakes right we we thought You know, we thought we should have been facing this direction with the wind coming in the morning. All of a sudden, it flips directions. But if that’s your only and one chance to get somebody a taste of what you do, that was another thing. We don’t offer any one-day trips. So we’re based in North Dakota, but I think in the four years we’ve been doing this, I’ve had one customer that came to us from North Dakota. Everybody else, actually, this year, this fall, I have my last state is going to get hit, Hawaii. I got people that are flying over from Hawaii to come because they bought a trip at an SDI banquet over there. And they’re flying in, and they’re going to come duck hunt with me. So we’ve hit all 50 states except for just one customer in North Dakota. That’s awesome.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. So let’s get into everything you do as much as we can here, and we’re going to do this again. So getting to you, let’s talk about driving there. Logistics. Colorado, Denver area, and then flying in, what airport. Kind of give us some tips there.
SPEAKER 05 :
So for our – well, we have different things, right? So we’re here in North Dakota. We’re in South Dakota for our pheasants. Our team moves to Arkansas for January. We hunt ducks in the timber in January. And then in June, every June we fly. Everybody goes to North Carolina, Moorhead City, for the Outer Banks deep-sea fishing. So we’re always at the locations, and we’re about an hour, depending on where you’re at. Outer Banks is about an hour away from the airport. If you come to one of our Bismarck trips, we pick you up at the airport because we’re right here. So you fly Denver, probably United, I’d imagine. From Denver up there, you know, in the area, you can go through Dallas and American. But, yeah, we pick you up at the airport, and we’re right here.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s awesome. And we are booked for next year. Yeah. Yep. I got a little trouble booked up this year, but, man, we cannot. It seems so far away, but it’ll be here before we know it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, the trouble with our radio show is we have too many options. That’s our problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, man, we are looking forward to coming out there and hunting with you, man. All right, so let’s break down. Give us kind of a couple-minute spiel on each one of these here. Let’s talk about your pheasant hunts first.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, sure. So, well, and I can start with this. One of the things that’s different about us, too, is my team that’s in North Carolina and South Dakota is the same people that you hunt with in Arkansas and North Carolina.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, good.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it’s the same group of guys. We’re Christian people, and we tried running in that direction on purpose to try to take care of people, and we feel like we have a pretty good culture. But one of the things we do is if not, we never subcontract out our hunts. It is just us. So if you don’t like me at one of our hunts, you’re not going to like the other ones because I’m going to be there too. So that’s one of those things that we try to make people aware of. So our pheasant hunts, we’ve got 4,500 acres in South Dakota that we have. We have part of it preserved. For people that want to come and shoot a lot more than their daily limit, we have that. But there’s also about 3,000 acres that is wild grass. This year, we’ve got some beans down there, and there’s corn that’s planted. And we’re right next to a refuge that’s really highly protected. And it’s a beautiful area. It’s got a little bit of combination of every kind of pheasant. crops that you’d want to walk through or different ground or cover. It works well if people bring their pointers or flushers. Either dog is going to be able to thrive in what we’ve got down there. It’s taken a couple years to build up what we needed to and work with the farmer in the area. It’s a gangbusters hunt. We have a lot of fun down there.
SPEAKER 04 :
What’s your package right now for your pheasant hunt, Ryan?
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s three days, three nights. Everything’s included. That’s $29.95 per person. That’s all the meals your beer your lodging all the guides the dogs if you don’t have any um and that’s you know you just got to get to camp and everything else after that’s taken care of cool so and it’s five it’s five pheasants per person per day down there and what if somebody wants to bring their dog what’s the facility set up for i would love for you to because i wouldn’t go anywhere without mine and i can’t blame you to do it either so we encourage everybody to come bring their dogs when they come. We’ve got kennels set up for everybody. We don’t mix groups. Like if we have two different groups that brought dogs, we don’t put them together so the dogs stay separate. But it’s a blast to see. We’ve had some really weird breeds that are surprising good bird dogs. So it’s kind of fun to see everybody bring their pup. how they work, and, yeah, that’s part of the joys of our job. That’s awesome. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Brian Dean is our guest. It’s Coldwater Outfitters. Hey, check out the website. It’s huntcoldwater.com. And, Brian, what’s a good number if someone wants to reach you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, 701-955-4346. All right. Say it one more time. 701-955-4346.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, and we’ll put a deal on our Facebook page, Sportsman of Colorado Radio, for you to contact. But again, it’s HuntColdWater.com. All right, slip down over to Arkansas. Tell us about that hunt a little bit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so that is our southern duck hunt. We have the one in North Dakota, but we all go down right after Christmas, after the last split, and you land in Little Rock, and we’ve got about an hour drive to camp in Searcy, and we’ve got a mixture of timber and crop fields. that we have down there, and that is a four-day, four-night hunt for $25.95, and it’s all-inclusive like all of our trips are. So, again, you’ve just got to get there, make sure you bring some waders.
SPEAKER 13 :
A lot of shells.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, a lot of shells. We go through spec fields, we’ll shoot geese, and all the ducks in the timber we can handle. Last year was a little funny for everybody in Arkansas. The weather really messed us up for the duck population, but this year is looking pretty good. We’ve already got some coals. cold weather up in canada pushing birds down so yeah it should be a pretty good pretty good january down there yeah was january warm down there last year then too no we haven’t seen it i left it was colder in arkansas when i moved when i went down there for the month and it was in north dakota we had we had six inches ice on the main river down there no kidding the property yeah it was it was uh i left all my stuff the cold stuff here normally it’s pretty you know it’s pretty reasonable you’re yeah you’re 40 in the 40s yeah nothing it’s nothing that you could handle so
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, last year was just a weird year all the way through that sort of flyway. So, yeah, it can’t be that the way it was last year. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So it’s a good year probably to book and get down there. Do you have any availability this year for the January hunts?
SPEAKER 05 :
We do. We’ve got a couple spots left at the end of January this year, which is kind of my favorite because after the, regular season. Then they have one last weekend for the veterans and the kids. Oh, that’s cool. That’s always a good time.
SPEAKER 04 :
I need a little getaway, Kevin, after the stress of the Christmas season. So stressful during Christmas. Hey, on your deer hunts, let’s talk about that a little bit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. So we run those concurrent with our pheasant hunts in South Dakota. We’ve got really good deer down there. It’s a private property, so we’re the only one that’s on there. There’s a mix of mule deer and white tails white tails down yeah white tails down there and we unfortunately south dakota is one of those states that it’s pretty tough to draw tags and non-resident but they’re boat tags they’re over the counter and you can get you know some guys do the crossbow thing or whichever way but we have about 10 1500 a year that we allow on there to get bow hunt tags those are uh four thousand a piece and that includes you know your lodging you can also decide to do that in the morning, in the evening, and then go shoot pheasants in the afternoon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow, that’d be a fun day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, kind of all day hunting. It’s early morning, but it’s spot and stock for the mule deer down there. It’s a lot of fun. The back southern half of that property that we lease up is very mountainous, so you can get a little good exercise, but that’s where the deer are at. So far, we’re one for one. The guy dropped about 180-inch.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, dude, I showed Kevin the picture a minute ago. Yeah, that’s a beautiful… Yeah, that’s a big muley.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he had to crawl on his hands and knees for about 100 yards to get within 60 yards, but he… The mule he jumped up and popped up and looked at him, and he stuck him. He only ran about 20 yards, so it was a pretty good hunt.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, that’s so cool. Again, Brian Dean is our guest. Coldwater Outfitters, check out the website, huntcoldwater.com. Now, listen, I didn’t ask Brian anything, but, Brian, I’m sure somebody gets in touch with you through our show, anything you can do for them, we’d appreciate it. And, you know, maybe we can figure out some sportsman of Colorado radio package. That’s right. Hey. Maybe we’ll do something together and we’ll put together a deal. Come with Kevin and I. Yeah. We’ll go there. Exactly. Then Victoria won’t get on me with Kevin. It’s all work. That’s right. It’s all work. It’s all work. We want to make sure we help Brian out. Yeah. And so you got your deer as far as big game. What else? Anything else here?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. We got our waterfowl season in North Dakota and then our walleye fishing. Our walleye fishing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Let’s go to waterfowl real quick.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, our waterfowl, we start in three weeks, and that is the reason that I got into this crazy business, shooting ducks. And we are pumped. We have 320 people that are coming in nine weeks. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
My word.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we sell out. We’re completely sold out for this year, but we have some space next year. Yeah. This puddle duck region for North Dakota, we just get a lot of birds that come through here, and it’s amazing. Again, taking care of people when they’re here and the rebookings is part of the reason that we book out so quick on the waterfowl hunts. But it’s an amazing time of year. We’re really excited about it this year. So, yeah, and that’s four days, four nights. And it’s the same price as our Arkansas at the $25.95.
SPEAKER 13 :
Brian, talk a little bit about, that’s a lot of people, but talk about the resource and how you sort of manage moving people around, such as your hunting grounds and what you’re doing to make sure that, I don’t know if you have ducks that get sort of conditioned in any way or anything like that, but talk to us a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, sure. So we lease about 36,000 acres in North Dakota, and we have four or five guys that work full-time for me during duck season. So we spread out pretty good, and it’s part of managing, you know, remembering what field you hit and where they were coming from so they stay soft and they stay in the area. Yeah. And working with farmers, you know, making sure that we’re keeping them happy. And, yeah, that’s how we do it. We have a lodge that we actually are, it’s the grand opening. It is in a couple weeks for our duck season. It’s 3,000 square feet that we built right around the corner from my house, and it’ll hold about, 24 people at a time, but it’s a big investment on our part, but we’re excited to open it up for people, take really good care of them while they’re here. Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I tell you, Kevin, I cannot wait. When are we booked?
SPEAKER 09 :
October?
SPEAKER 04 :
October of next year. Yeah, I was about to say, I thought it was October. So, man, we are looking forward to it, and you’ll be back in April, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. I’ll be back. I’ve already talked to Abe. Okay, good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good, good, good. Hey, you can meet Brian, and like I say, they are booked for a lot of things this year, but if you want to get in touch with them, you can do that through the website as well. It’s HuntColdWater.com. Be sure to let them know you heard them here on Sports from Colorado, and we’d appreciate that as well. So, Brian, man, hey, great to visit with you. We’ll do this more often, man. We want to let people know about you, so we appreciate it, and Kevin and I are really looking forward to seeing you, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, sir. You guys have a great weekend. You too. Thanks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Kevin, thank you, sir. Thank you. All right, man. Hey, thank you for joining us. Remember, our replay is now on Sundays, 8 in the morning, 8 at night, Thursdays, 9 to 10 a.m. right here on KLZ 560. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend. We’ll talk to you next week.
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