In this episode, The Kim Munson Show delves into the underpinnings of our society’s biggest debates. From state legislation affecting our daily lives to broader issues of global significance, Kim Munson and her guests provide insights that seek truth and clarity. With expert guest Bob Boswell shedding light on industry-specific regulations and a segment dedicated to understanding historical milestones, listeners are equipped with knowledge and perspective. Whether it’s assessing local immigration policies or exploring the ideologies of economic thought leaders, this episode is a testament to thoughtful analysis and reasoned discussion.
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I find that it takes work to get your brain around these ideas, and it takes work to engage in these conversations.
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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it’s not.
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Today’s current opinions and ideas.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And the girls were over last night. We had our fun gift exchange and I got the Hooters wings special that is a special on Wednesdays. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And they were really, really good. And so be sure and check that out. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. And they’ve got great specials for lunch and happy hour. And you can find all that at my website. 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And once that is posted, you can listen to the show via the streaming services such as iTunes and Spotify. And we search for truth and clarity on the show by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff. So it’s not compassionate for Mike Johnston and the city of Denver to take money from the taxpayers of Denver and then give it to people that have come here illegally. That’s not compassionate. That’s theft. So compassion never has force around it. I think that’s an important thing to remember. But the PBIs that want to take your money and control things, they will do this under the guise of altruism or being compassionate. And just remember, if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And so it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, or lives. And force could be a weapon, but it’s policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum’s agenda, which goes right into the globalist elite’s agenda, the United Nations’ agenda. We’re seeing it play out with the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor’s the world health organization land use codes which all of this is connected zoning regulations forced fees conservation easements um all all of those things and they’re all connected and they’re all we’re at a tipping point on all this and so we’ve got to take a stand on it and so many of you are so thank you And on the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We will talk about the people-pushing issues and give you the facts as we best know them, but we’re trying to stay out of all the throwing words back and forth with each other. Our word of the day is onerous, and it is spelled O-N-E-R-O-U-S, and it could be involving, imposing, or constituting a burden or troublesome. Or number two, having legal obligations that outweigh the advantages. So I was looking at the headlines and one of them, their headlines, I got so many of them, is that the Denver sidewalk tax is going to kick in. And so that seems like that’s public property. Everybody walks on those sidewalks. And of course, when they talk about walkable cities, I just think this is a real problem. And think about if you live on a corner. And this is a way to take more and more of your property. You’re already paying property taxes. So this tax, I think, is an onerous tax. And again, that is O-N-E-R-O-U-S. And you should be able to use that in a sentence today. Our word of the day, excuse me, our quote of the day, I went to Milton Friedman. and he was born in 1912 died in 2006 he was an american economist and statistician who received the 1976 nobel memorial prize in economic sciences for his research on consumption analysis monetary history and theory and the complexity of stabilization policy It says, with George Stigler, Friedman was among the intellectual leaders of the Chicago School of Economics and Neoclassical School of Economic Thought associated with the work of the faculty of the University of Chicago that rejected Keynesianism in favor of monetarism until the mid-1970s when it turned to new classical macroeconomics heavily based on the concept of rational expectations. And we’re going to be talking with Bob Boswell, who is the CEO of Laramie Energy, as our featured guest in this hour. And we’re going to be talking about all of these regulations that are so onerous on our oil and gas industry. And so I was looking for regulations quotes and Milton Friedman came up. So this is what he said. Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. So, again, that is Milton Friedman. this day in history i pulled several different things and i think it’s important that we look back at history and realize that there were human beings doing things important things throughout the centuries and that we’re all connected but this uh this first one in 1822 mexico is officially recognized as an independent nation by the united states Then in 1874, Hawaiian King David Kalakua is the first king to visit the U.S. as guest of Ulysses S. Grant at the first U.S. state dinner in the White House. In 1901, Marconi sends the first transatlantic radio signal from Poldu in Cornwall to Newfoundland, Canada. 1911, Delhi replaces Calcutta as the capital of India. And in 1946, Tide laundry detergent was introduced. And then Trent Luce, we talked a little bit about this yesterday, that this day in history, Trent said, was that the Rockefellers, John D. Rockefeller, had contributed or donated six blocks in manhattan to the united nations and in 1946 on this day they accepted it i kind of forgot about this and i i had not realized this 1963 frank sinatra jr is returned by kidnappers after his father paid the 240 000 in ransom that was demanded And then in 2000, this is pretty historical. The U.S. Supreme Court releases its 5-4 decision in Bush versus Gore, settling the recount dispute in Florida’s 2000 presidential election in George W. Bush’s favor and thus handing him the presidency over Al Gore. Just imagine. Oh, my gosh. Al Gore. had been president, this whole agenda would have been started much earlier. Well, although the Bushes ended up, I think, being globalists as well. But then several other things. 2014, the UN climate change talks in Peru continue past scheduled time as negotiations continue to stall. And then in 2015, COP 21, the Climate Change Summit in Paris, reaches a deal between 195 countries to limit the rise in global average temperature to less than 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. And what we’re learning as we’re doing these podcasts for a climate conversation and some of these scientists that are speaking honestly because they have completed their career, they have tenure, whatever. One of them, now I can’t remember which one of it it says, is the whole climate change agenda is a communist agenda. overtake of the Western world. That’s the ultimate goal on that. And so do check out A Climate Conversation, the documentary. It’ll give you great talking points as you are with friends and family during this Christmas holiday season, because we need to be able to have conversations about this and speak truth into it. And so really a lot of great information. And you can check that out at aclimateconversation.com. So we have all that going on in 2014, 2015. In 2020, Chinese leader Xi Jinping says the country will reduce its carbon intensity by 65% by 2030. But we know that he’s just kidding because they are building coal-fired power plants over there at a clipping rate. And then in 2020, UN chief Antonio Guterres urges the world leaders to declare a climate emergency to avoid catastrophic global warming on the fifth anniversary of the Paris Climate Accord. And so they’re all in this thing together. And wow. OK, so let’s see. Next thing. And one of our listeners, the text line is 720-605-0647. One of our listeners texted this to me early. They said they’d just seen this. It’s a sad story on Channel 31 of a woman’s body found outside of Lyons. And the murder was a male that had four Spanish names in a row. Didn’t mention whether or not he was here legally or not. But it would be nice to find out about that. And this is really tragic. I pulled up the article, and this is from the Daily Camera. And… it says a family members DS so a man was arrested I guess it was last Friday so we’re just getting this here this was posted December 6th okay this was a little while ago so the story has not been hitting the headlines as much here so this is from the Daily Camera said a man was arrested Friday after the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office and coroner’s office used in it doing it DNA to identify human remains found in September on Blue Mountain Road northwest of Lyons, according to a press release. A family member’s DNA was used to identify Gaudi Garcia Pina, 37, a Venezuelan citizen who had been residing in Denver, according to the press release. Police said Pina was reported missing from Denver on July 15th. andres eloy martinez perez thirty one was arrested on suspicion of first-degree murder and domestic violence and was booked into the boulder county jail perez and pina were in a relationship at the time of her disappearance according to the release It says the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office received a call about human remains found on Blue Mountain Road on September 24. An investigator said they found a missing person report from the Denver Police Department that appeared to be a potential match for the victim in the case. It says the decomposition of the remains created a complication in the case, however, according to the release. And it says the coroner received this DNA from a family member as part of the investigation. So stay tuned on this. It will be interesting to see the immigration status on actually both of them. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Several things to mention. Yesterday we had rebroadcast an interview that we did with Colonel Bill Rutledge regarding John Heisman, of whom the Heisman Trophy is awarded. And that award will be awarded in New York on Saturday. And Travis Hunter, a CU player that plays both offense and defense, is one of the three finalists. And he is also a frontrunner. So this is very exciting. And so we did run that rebroadcast yesterday about John Heisman because there’s always things historical around all this. It’s important to understand all that. Next thing today, we anticipate that we will send out an email regarding this food scarcity and low quality of food at Fort Carson. This is unconscionable what is happening there. And Pam Long brought this to our attention. And she will be our featured guest in the second hour. And she actually went through and did all the research with all the contact information for us to reach out with instructions on what to say to a number of our elected representatives and also some of the head people down at Fort Carson. So expect that email. We normally only send one email a week, and that is on Sundays that highlights our upcoming guests and our essays. But I said to Zach, I said, I think this is really important that we let this be a standalone. So we hope to get that out later today. And then Josh Lowenstein brought this to our attention, and he was on earlier this week. And this is a… land designation for the Canadian links. And it would be nearly 7,700 square miles of West Central and Southwestern Colorado, as well as a number of other states. This is a huge land grab. And the Biden administration on its way out the door is doing things that are really hurting the American people. One of those is this assault upon property rights, and also to reduce access to public lands for grazing, agriculture, resource development, recreation. Ultimately, this agenda, the 30 by 30, is to return the land to the national habitat. which ultimately they do not want to have any humans on using that land whatsoever. And if you think that’s crazy, remember COVID, where here in Colorado, right here, my little park down the street, they put yellow police tape around or crime scene tape around the playground equipment so that kids cannot play on the playground equipment at the park during COVID. So you can just take that example and think what that’s going to mean for our public lands. And also, as Josh said, this would affect private property as well. And so we need to stay on top of that. Let’s see. I mentioned the soldiers. OK, next thing. This is from Axios, Denver. It said these Colorado cities are signaling support for Trump’s mass deportations. And we have had an invasion of our country. by people that we don’t know who they are, what their agenda is. And then we have borrowed from our children in this massive debt and also higher and higher taxation on each and every one of us. This is unconscionable what happened. So we’ve got to get this turned around. And Axios reports, it says leaders in Aurora, Castle Rock and Colorado Springs are committing to comply with what President-elect Trump has called the largest deportation operation in American history. At this point, Colorado law prohibits local police from working with federal immigration agents, setting up a conflict between state and city policies. Denver’s neighbors sharply diverge from the capital city, where Mayor Mike Johnston has vowed to resist Trump’s deportation efforts. And this defiance has drawn threats from Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, who warned that the mayor could be jailed for his position. Says this month, the town council in Castle Rock unanimously passed a measure to comply and assist with federal immigration enforcement under Trump’s plan. My comment on this is those that are here illegally will know which of these towns will be cooperating under Trump’s plan. And I would think that illegals will probably go to other towns and cities. So then it goes on in Aurora where Trump has planned to start his immigration crackdown. Mike Coffin told CBS4 this month he wants statewide restrictions lifted so the city can cooperate with immigration and customs enforcement officials on mass deportations. So I do hope that he stands strong with Trump, but good for him to get rid of this terrible legislation as well. It goes on to say in Colorado Springs, the city council recently passed a second resolution reaffirming its status as a non-sanctuary city. And then earlier this year, El Paso County, where Colorado Springs is the county seat, joined Douglas, Albert, Garfield, Mesa, and Rio Blanco counties in suing the state. And it says the lawsuit challenges two state laws that restrict local governments from aiding federal immigration authorities. And Stephen Miller, who’s Trump’s incoming deputy chief of staff for policy, recently revealed more details about the administration’s immigration plan. It includes a massive increase in ICE officers and a historic increase in border agents to carry out deportations, Miller said. And next week, we’re going to have Chris Harris on, who is a former border agent who’s been watching all of… what’s been happening happening down in San Diego. And so stay tuned. I’ll be excited to hear what he has to say about that. Let’s see. The next headline is this is from Denver seven says the Colorado voting system password leak investigation concludes that the passwords were unintentionally posted online. And it says this third party investigation by Braid Quinn LLC also determined there was a policy failure and issued seven recommendations to the Colorado Secretary of State’s office. And it says the report. by this firm which was hired to conduct the investigation after the Colorado Department of State revealed the lake and leak in late October also found that a series of inadvertent and unforeseen events led to the public disclosure of the bios passwords and this report was issued last Monday and says it was a unique set of circumstances and And then it goes on to say, and this is by the consultant group that was hired by the Secretary of State to investigate the Secretary of State, so just connect all those dots. It says, on an organizational level, the Secretary of State consistently took significant and appropriate measures to protect state information, including the BIOS passwords. And it says, notably, the report determined there was a policy failure in the And then it goes on to say that it was an employee that had put the – when it says partial passwords, it was actually the complete BIOS passwords. So, again, when you’re reading these news stories, it’s important to understand that. It was the complete BIOS passwords for, I think, 63 of the 64 counties. And the timeframe that they gave to this – organization and these consultants to check whether or not anything nefarious happened. As I’ve talked to experts, they said that it is impossible to have come to these conclusions in this short period of time. And the other thing that’s important to remember is that the Secretary of State’s office did not notify the county clerks of this breach of security until it was actually made public in a letter to Congress. that was issued or the information was issued by the Colorado Republican Party. And so you need to we’re going to stay tuned on this. I think that there’s I think there’s a lot more that we need to do on this. And that is why our Colorado 2024 election project is so important. Step one and step two have been funded and the lots firms have been hired to for both step one and step two. Step one is with the United Sovereign Americans law firm that they have filed a lawsuit, which was filed back in September, based upon credible information that the United Sovereign Americans volunteers had found regarding the 2022 election and that Colorado is not even meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for elections. So that lawsuit is filed and the attorneys are in the back and forth that I’m learning happens in these legal cases. Step two is funded as well. And that was to raise money for half of the attorney’s fees with the Wisconsin Center for Election Justice and Peter Bernager. And then also the money to run the Titan case. technology systems. And that lawsuit actually was filed on November 1st. And the basis on that is basically that our voter rolls are not clean. So in moving into 2025, we’re going to rename the project Reclaim Colorado 2025. And again, this is still somewhat in process. But step three will be to raise money for a lawsuit regarding this BIOS passwords security breach. And the fact that fraudulent ballots got through in Mesa County, we have to wonder, did that happen in other counties? We need to find out because we don’t have a country if we do not have free, fair, honest and transparent elections. So we need to find out. And then also there are things that are legal in Colorado, but they’re not right regarding our election elections. Well, a variety of things. One of the first when I tell people this and this was passed last Last election season, or excuse me, last legislative season, and it had a Republican co-sponsor on it. And it’s like, gosh, guys, you’ve got to keep your names off of these bad bills. But in that bill, it was election modifications here in Colorado. And Steve Finberg, Senator Finberg, was the main sponsor on that, a Democrat. I think he’s out of Boulder now. And I did testify against this. And there wasn’t very many people that had their eyes on this particular piece of legislation, but it was like 45 pages long. And when Senator Finberg sat down to present his bill, he said, we’re just doing some modifications to our elections. And I’m thinking 45 pages. But one of the things in there is current before this in Colorado, 16 year olds can be pre-registered to vote. which means the minute that they turn eighteen that that will generate a ballot that will go to the address that they gave when they registered to vote this last piece of legislation changed that age to fifteen we should not be having these 15 and 60-year-olds pre-registering to vote because I think that that could be a problem. And so we need to fix many of the things that’s happening with all of this. And shedding light on all of this is one of the first things, and we do that every day or every weekday here at the Kim Munson Show. And that happens because of our great sponsors, such as RE-MAX Realtor Karen Levine.
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back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson mon son.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you shouldn’t have to force people to do it And as I think all of you know, I dearly love the USMC Memorial Foundation. In my work with my America’s Veterans Story show, I’ve gotten to know so many Marine veterans, so many veterans. And it is so important that we honor and remember and the remodel of the Marine Memorial will will help us do that. And so be sure and help them out this holiday season. Make a contribution and honor our military. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And we talk regularly about Laramie Energy and the great work that they do and that it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources. from oil, gas, coal that helps us fuel our lives and power our hopes and dreams. And these industries are under attack, regulatory attack, legislative attack here in Colorado. And I wanted to talk with Bob Boswell about this because as I’m watching headlines, there’s a new carbon management commission that’s coming up with different rules. One of our listeners had called in so concerned about that the other day after the show. And so I wanted to talk with Bob about that. Bob, welcome to the show.
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I have a couple of headlines that are of great concern and they’re connected, Bob. And this is from Nine News. And it was reported on December 9th. It says Colorado’s GDP fell to number 41 in the nation in 2024, a stark contrast from the state’s high performance in prior years. It said the 2025 Colorado Business Economic Outlook released shows slowing in nearly every metric of growth. It says from 2008 to 2023, the state ranked number five in the nation for GDP. But now we’re at 41. And let’s connect this dot. This is from the sum and substance. It says study finds Colorado regulations among the highest in the nation costing jobs. So I think the two are connected, Bob Boswell.
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Well, absolutely. In fact, I might encourage you and your other listeners to look at the new publication presented by the Colorado Chamber of Commerce. It’s entitled the Regulation Impact Analysis Report of 2020. of 2024. And the chamber undertook a study, hired four expert economists to look at the state of call and what’s happened, particularly in the last four years when the Democrats have had a super majority in both the House and the Senate. There’s been over three times growth in the past four years in regulations. Colorado has some 50,000 regulations compared to a national average of 30,000 that directly affect California. industries, jobs, and employment. These past four years, the cost of these increased regulations has been a decline in the economy, as you pointed out. We’ve had job losses. The The general sector of the professionals, which adds about 30,000 years historically, is down to less than 5,000 currently. Most of the manufacturing, information, construction, pipeline jobs have lost jobs and are on track to lose jobs again this year. And we’ve gone from personal living standards where we were the third best in the nation to 39th. So all in the wrong direction. We had some 7% increase in regulations this past year compared to 1.3% at the federal level under Joe Biden. So excessive regulation is having effect. a devastating economic impact on the state. And that trend needs to be changed with a more balanced Senate and House so that we can stop this. Yeah, House of Representatives, so we can stop this influx of regulations. It’s gotten to a point of being absurd.
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It really has. And Bob, I think you know, I’ve got a volunteer gig as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And this is a good time to acknowledge these other board members, because during the legislative session, we take a look at all of the bills that are scheduled for hearing. And then anything that has to do with taxes, your pocketbook, property rights, we will review those and take a stand on them. So I want to mention everybody quick-like. This is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honecker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O’Loughlin, Wendy Warner. marty nielsen ramey johnson and mary jansen these are volunteers that each week during the legislative session take time to review all of this and then we create an email that goes out to all the legislators and the governor regarding those positions but last year bob over 700 pieces of legislation were introduced in colorado And bigger and bigger government means smaller and smaller opportunity for the individual. And so we’ve got to get this turned around. And one of the ways is to understand what’s happening down at the statehouse. And so, again, we’d recommend that people join us. It’s only 25 bucks to join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. But I say all that to say some good stuff did happen during this last election. And it was a nail-biter down in House District 16 in Colorado Springs where the Republican candidate, Rebecca Kelty, defeated a radical activist incumbent by just three votes. And when people think that it doesn’t matter if you vote, it does matter if you vote, because this those three votes really help to protect Coloradans from a super majority in both the House and Senate, because if they had it, they could ram through everything they wanted to do. Bob Boswell. So this is huge.
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Well, and that’s what they’ve done in the last four years with the supermajority. So the fact that going forward they will not have that supermajority isn’t critical because they won’t be able to ram through these additional regulations, a lot of which are focused on the environment, many of which are unnecessary. This study by the Chamber of Commerce also said across the broad spectrum of regulations, not just local, The environment, 45 percent of those regulations are duplicates, resulting in delayed times of getting permits for construction, other projects. I heard a fact the other day that was talking about the Statue of Liberty took something like 48 months to complete. To construct today to get a permit to construct something, the equivalent of the Statue of Liberty would take seven years. So that’s what we’ve done. We’ve tied our tied ourselves up, hurting our economy, creating poverty and losing jobs because of excessive regulation.
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I ended up during, speaking of regulation, I ended up in a face-to-face debate with Mayor Mike Johnston on that affordable housing tax, which if that would have been approved by, and it was ostensibly for affordable housing, it would have made a Denver sales tax close to 10%. And so one of the questions to me on that was, well, you know, we need to make housing more affordable, how would we do that? And there were different reports out by, I think, the Home Builders Association that 25% to 27% of the cost of a new build goes to regulations, and that’s on single-family homes. And on multifamily units, it’s 40%. Well, Bob, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if we reduce those regulations, we can make housing more affordable immediately.
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Well, absolutely. And try to put it on the back of the sales tax, which is regressive. 10% would approach California’s type of taxing level. And the people that get hurt the most are those that can afford it the least, because that’s an incremental tax on food and other elements that are necessary for everyday life. It’s not necessarily luxury goods or anything else. So That was an exceptionally bad idea. This mayor is a huge disappointment to me living in the city of Denver. And it’s time we get a change where we get mayors that really understand the economy and are just not politicians.
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Well, that’s why these elections are so, so important. But the other thing, though, Bob, is it’s so important also to be speaking truth into these issues because the everyday people, I think they’re trying to keep it together here. They want to take care of their families, and they want to go to their jobs or build their businesses. And there’s so much that comes at them. A lot of it is… I think just it’s just confusing, a lot of confusing information there. So that’s why it’s so important that we try to get through all this and get to the truth on it. And that’s why, you know, that’s what we try to do every every day here on the show. And and because. This prosperity that we have loved and this property rights and all of this is under assault by this radical activist extreme agenda, which is really playing out right here in Colorado, Bob.
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Absolutely. And yeah, every vote counts. That’s why we need to have a balance in our legislative branches. And also, once we have that balance, we need to make sure that under the existing legislation, they can’t just pile on more and more regulations. That’s been one of the things they’ve done. I think people hopefully recognize that they’re trying to subvert the Tabor Act. which was meant to control the level of taxation to keep new taxes from being put in place unless it had approval of the state. of the electorate, the people, and they’re getting around that with what they call enterprise fees. They’ve issued some 20 enterprise fees to subvert the Tabor Act, and so what’s being done by the government is wrong. It’s oppressing the economy. It’s hurting the lower-income people in this state, and things need to change.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I’m talking with Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy and I thank you for your sponsorship. of the show because we have these important discussions. And I’ve been aghast, I would say, at watching what this Biden-Harris administration is doing on the way out the door. And we recently talked on the show about these billions of dollars that John Podesta in the administration had been bragging about that they were getting over to green or renewable energy jobs. Well, the green in this, what I’ve determined is the green that’s going into all of the cronies’ pockets on all this, on these special interests. And I had Daniel Turner with Power of the Future on earlier this week, and he said that one of the things this money is buying is golden parachutes for those that are in the administration so that they will get jobs in these different companies that are getting the money. And, boy, that’s a great concern to me, Bob Boswell. Thank you.
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Well, I think you see that in a number of factors. It also shows the duplicitous nature of some of our leaders. The biggest example is Biden saying he would not, you know, not… do anything to release his son from the charges that have been brought against him. And yet he does that. And they’re doing this across the board, trying to dole out money before they leave to special interests to curry their favor. And as you pointed out, often results in jobs in the different industries, defense industry, in this case, a lot of the green industries. where they have taken billions of dollars going into renewable projects, many of which we have evidence have not been successful, both on the wind and the solar side. Some have been, and it’s a compliment, but it’s not a replacement, and we are actually raising the cost of energy to the country as opposed to lowering it through the doubling out of these excessive amount of dollars into these green projects.
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So, Bob Boswell, are you encouraged from what you’re seeing or with your ear to the ground regarding the incoming Trump administration?
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Yes, I am. I think the pendulum’s swinging, and we’re going to go back to hopefully a more moderate, balanced type of legislature, balanced type of approach to the economy. I think Trump very appropriately is coming in, is appointing skilled positions, people who present strong leadership, and hopefully we’ll be able to get some of the heirs of the past four years turned around. and headed the nation back in the right direction without the excessive government, not only regulation, but largesse that we’re seeing as the Biden administration leaves office.
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Okay. Next thing, Bob Boswell, is the Biden administration or the O’Biden-Harris administration drained our strategic oil reserves. And having those full is really important for our national defense and our security. And with prices down for gas at the gas pump, I would hope that the incoming administration is going to take that opportunity to fill those strategic reserves back up. Have you heard anything with your ear to the ground on that?
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No, I think it’s certainly an objective. It’s something we need to have in place simply because of what we’re seeing that’s happening in the Middle East. But I am optimistic that under the Trump administration that some of the various factions in the Middle East will be a reconciliation. They’ll be we’ll have. But, you know, we’ll have strength that will be recognized, and we’ll use that strength in a constructive way to hopefully ameliorate some of those contentious issues that we’re seeing in the Middle East. So I’m optimistic on that front that we’re going to go into more peaceful times, and it’s peace through strength.
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So next question, Bob Boswell. It’s been rumored that Jared Polis would like to run for president. And when we’re talking about these onerous regulations here in Colorado and that our GDP is near the bottom now, He and Mike Johnston, mayor of Denver, I feel that they’re running our state into the ground because of this radical activist agenda that they have been pushing. But then you’re seeing Jared Polis try to portray himself as more as a centrist. So do you have any thoughts about that?
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Well, I think he sees where the winds are blowing. Governor Polis is a very bright individual, and I think maybe his politics are shifting to more align with what he sees as a centrist movement. Whether he would be a good candidate for president, I would leave that up to the people. But from my vantage point and the history, you may have a – Wolf and sheep’s clothing there when it comes to regulations and government, size of the government, things like that. But I think he is moving more towards the middle, but then his term’s just about up. So I suspect he’ll be running for some office. I think the president is a stretch.
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And so with that, I think this next legislative session will be very telling, because as we watch this legislation with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, as we watch that, is that whatever is passed by the House and Senate and gets to his desk. He can sign it. He can veto it. Or if he doesn’t sign it, but it just sits there after a certain amount of time, it also becomes law. And so I think it’ll be really telling on what we see that is proposed. Someone that’s very active down at the State House had said that Jared Polis is really the head of the Democrat Party. And so the agenda that we have seen has been his agenda. But I agree with you. I think he’s a very bright politician. I think that he has effective handlers that are effective in the messaging. So I think he can, I think we’ll see his rhetoric at least move to the middle. But I think it’ll be very telling to see what happens this next legislative session, Bob.
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I think that in particular will be telling to see as he goes out how he leaves. You know, the other thing you mentioned, the mayor and mayor. has been a disaster. His position on Sanctuary City is not good for the city. We’ve got the highest number of illegal immigrants per any sanctuary city in the country. We’ve got issues associated with housing. We’re having taxpayer funds subverted into supporting these illegal immigrants. many of which should be deported just because of criminal backgrounds and things of that nature. So they set us up for a disaster, and he continues to endorse it. And it’s just beyond comprehension as to how he could continue with his same type of woke, liberal running of the city.
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Well, and it’s unbelievable, really, that these people that have come here, that we don’t know who they are and if they’re here to hurt us or if they’re here for free stuff. It’s really unbelievable, and it’s very irresponsible. I don’t fly very much anymore these days, but I had recently been on an airplane, and of course, American citizens have to show ID, and they want to take your picture, and you have to stand in line and go through TSA. And I’m thinking, how is it that and we have to pay for expensive tickets as well. But how is it that we Americans have to do this? But yet the reports of illegals being flown all over the country without I.D., without knowing who they are. It’s it’s almost like these radical activists, extremists don’t like Americans, but they like everybody else. And we’ve been seeing that play out in right here in Colorado. Bob, we have about a minute left. What’s the final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think elections matter. And unfortunately, we’ve been on a trend in the past several years of liberalization, wokeness, things of that. And I believe in empathy and sympathy for those less fortunate than us. But we can’t afford, we need to put America first and take care of ourselves. And we should have immigration, but people need to come in legally. So elections matter. And I think things are starting to move in a positive direction for the American people. We just need to keep pushing the right ideas.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Bob Boswell, thank you so much. And elections matter. And we’re going to be working very hard on elections here in Colorado. So, Bob Boswell, thanks so much. And I’m going to see you later today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Thanks, Kim.
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We will talk about the people that are pushing these issues, but we want to stay on conversations to really get to truth and clarity on what is happening in our country. And we have a real opportunity with the Donald Trump administration. If we had continued down this O’Biden-Harris path, um uh movement if you will we were we were in a very difficult situation but my friends uh what we’re going to see is that radical activist extreme agenda instead of being at the national level it’s we’re going to see it drill down to our local county and state governments and so that’s why we need to be very vigilant and very active in watching what’s going on and and i’m I’d like to not quite know what this will look like exactly, but we’re going to start Doge, Colorado, which is inspired by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, as they are looking at Doge stands for the Department of Government Efficiency, and they’re going to be looking at places where We can have a more efficient government, hopefully a smaller government at the federal level. And we as citizens, we need to incorporate that in Doge, Colorado. And so there’s a lot that we need to do. I think we’ve got an opportunity the next 18 months. It has to be pedal to the metal, my friends. And we’ve got to be engaged in conversations and helping people understand what is going on. So with that, our word of the day is very appropriate, as we had talked with Bob Boswell about all of these regulations, onerous regulations. So onerous is our word of the day. It’s spelled O-N-E-R-O-U-S. And the first definition could be involving, imposing, or constituting a burden, troublesome, such as onerous regulations. Was it 41 or 46 in the nation? Pretty low because we used to be at the top. But as we see these onerous regulations and onerous legislation, what happens is we’re now seeing the effect. And so what they say they want to do with this legislation and these regulations and what actually happens are two different things. And so the other thing is the radical activist extremists, they really want to take down our Western way of life, the American idea of limited government, that all men are created equal, with rights from God, of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. They want to take that down. And those people are in positions of power throughout Colorado. And so we’ve got the next 18 months. We’ve got a lot of work to do. So your challenge of the number two definition of onerous is having legal obligations that outweigh the advantages. And you should be able to use the word onerous in a sentence today. Milton Friedman is our quote of the day. He’s an economist, was born in 1912, died in 2006. And he ended up. He rejected Keynesianism, which is the economic theory of more and more debt and government spending that they believe could stimulate the economy. That’s not sustainable. And so Milton Friedman… He talked about monetarism in the mid-’70s, and it turned to new classical macroeconomics heavily based on the concept of rational expectations. And he said this. He said, corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. And, again, that is – Milton Friedman. So some of the headlines that we had talked about is, first of all, the Heisman Trophy will be awarded this Saturday in New York City. And CU Buffalo player Travis Hunter is one of the three finalists. And Colonel Rutledge, 96 years young, a retired United States Air Force, has really been excited about this. And he said he is such an amazing player. He plays both offense and defense. And he is the favorite to win. And so that would be a really big deal for CU. So stay tuned on that. I mentioned the soldiers at Fort Carson. And… Let’s see, we talked about, oh, there was one other headline that I’d wanted to get to. And this is what I’ve realized. The globalists really do not want us to have freedom of mobility. And we talk with Lauren Fix on a regular basis regarding this. They would really like us to be riding around on trains, buses, bicycles, walking. And this is… This is just from Colorado. It says Denver transit costs continue to rise as ridership fails to recover post-COVID. And so what I think we’re going to start to see is that there may be more… incentives, if you will, or more force to try to get people to ride these trains. But the trains are dirty and they’re dangerous and people really prefer the safety and comfort of their own personal vehicle and are willing to sit in traffic in order to enjoy that. And so you’ll see the PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, they want to make it, or they’re trying to make it more and more uncomfortable for us to be in our personal vehicles. They want to make it more expensive through higher gas prices. But this is from the Center Square. It says, Denver’s transit system continues to face financial challenges, even as it moves forward with expansion programs. According to RTD, the Regional Transportation District, the system maintains a strong near-term outlook. Yet, like many other transits throughout the country, which have seen little recovery in ridership since the COVID-19 pandemic, RTD ridership in 2023 was less than two-thirds of the pre-pandemic level, and that wasn’t even that high. And it says, unlike other transits, RTD’s ridership has been declining since 2014, when it was 5% higher in 2019. It says in 2021, the transit, which includes buses, rail, and on-demand services, reported 50 million annual boardings. Okay, that is another thing I learned when I was on city council. Boardings is not a round trip. So in essence, probably people are normally having round trips if they’re riding the train or buses. And so the real number would probably be half of that. But it’s a way that you’ll see PBIs that they try to skew the message. It says in 2023, that number had increased to 65 million annual boardings. And so stay tuned. We’re going to have to watch what’s happening with RTD. And the cost of ridership, your ridership. Your ticket, typically only at that, when I was on city council, only covered maybe 20% of the fare. Everything else was coming from government grants and sales taxes. And as Bob Boswell said in the first hour, sales taxes are regressive because it means the people that can least afford to pay them are the ones that have to pay a larger portion of their money towards sales taxes. And so we’re going to have to stay tuned on all of this. And we have amazing sponsors on the show. I know each and every one of them personally. And very, very pleased to be promoting the book Swift Sword.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I did want to mention a couple of things. The Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team can help you probably save money. The way to find out is to give them a call at 303-795-8855 and sit down for a complimentary appointment to go over your coverage. If you bundle things together, you might be able to save money, and it’s always nice to save money. And then also the USMC Memorial Foundation is raising money for the remodel and restoration a reboot, I would say, on the Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. And a great Christmas or Hanukkah gift would be to buy a brick that will be on one of their pathways of service to honor your loved one’s military service. You will receive a beautiful gift or a beautiful certificate that you can put on the wall. And it’s just a lovely gift. So check that out at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And on the line with me is Pam Long. She’s the director of the Children’s Health Defense Military Chapter. She’s a graduate of West Point. She is an Army veteran, and she served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO Stabilization Forces in the Army Medical Service Corps. She also writes amazing essays that we are honored to publish at the Kim Munson Show. Pam Long, welcome. Good morning, Kim, in Colorado. So I want to get to this essay. And these are always so interesting, the best and the worst of Colorado politics. But before we do that, first of all, thank you for doing the research of all the contact information who we need to reach out to to get this food situation corrected down at Fort Carson. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for sharing it, Kim. And that will go out today in an email. And we need to take action because our young soldiers and this this is hurting our young soldiers, our newest soldiers the most. And we cannot sit by and enjoy be enjoying the holiday season. knowing that our soldiers are not being fed properly. And so we’ll have to take action. So that’ll be going out later today. Pam, you also sent over a text message, I think it was this week, regarding the CDPHE and firearms. And you called it. So tell our listeners about that.
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Well, if you’ve been a watchdog for the health department, like I have for the past 10 years, you see patterns and they’re very predictable. And I predicted, I think it was last year on your show, that because there was this heavy emphasis during COVID and after COVID for students to be enrolling in online quasi classes, therapy type programs like I matter and healthy kids, Colorado. These are, these are not actually therapy. These are data mining operations. And I think there was a third one that these were traps, right? That these were actually going to work in conjunction with CDP cheese, new quiet programs, office of, I call it the Office of Gun Control. I think the real name is Office of Gun Violence Prevention, that the two programs would eventually merge to restrict people’s gun ownership rights under the Second Amendment. And that’s, we have a rumor right now from good sources that we will see a bill this session in 2025, and I encourage everyone to engage at the state capitol, to restrict gun ownership from anyone who’s ever engaged in therapy, however they define that. I see it coming to fruition this legislative session.
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And I think I saw that it’s possibly Kathy Kipp out of northern Colorado that might be sponsoring that legislation. Is that what you’ve heard as well?
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I won’t specifically name the potential bill sponsor, but I will say most of our problems are coming out of Larimer County’s elected officials. They buy into all the agendas. And if I could just kind of poke the bear of our Larimer County listeners, you need to be watching the legislation they introduced starting now. Ask them what is coming because the bills are already written.
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And also on the local level, this, Yvonne Paez had shed light on this regarding, and a number of our listeners had reached out about it as well, is Fort Collins and this preferred trash provider. They’re saying, well, yes, we can have competition. But what they’re saying is the city has chosen who the trash provider will be. And if you don’t use that trash provider or if you don’t need that trash provider, you still have to pay a fee for that. You can still pay your other trash provider. And so Yvonne had and she’s a co-founder of Perspectives 101. She had a town hall on that. People are really concerned about it. But ultimately, I think what’s going to happen. with this agenda is it comes out of the globalist elites is they don’t want humans to live life and create any trash. And so if you can get to a point where government controls the trash haulers, I think that’s the next step. And so if you are work from home and you might produce more trash because you work from home or if you have a larger family which will create more trash. then you might have to pay higher onerous fees for that. Do you think I’m tin-hat or what do you think on that, Pam Long? And if you think I’m tin-hat, it won’t hurt my feelings.
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No, this is exactly the pattern we’re seeing. As the president cut, how many of the 700 bills that you reviewed this past session, which is onerous, How many of them were the government interfering in private, you know, local affairs, private businesses and local affairs, trying to create incentives to go with a government program and then sanctions for people who do not go along with the government? I mean, it was a very high percentage of bills. They were either trying government takeover of what should be the private business sector or sanctions. offering these grants and tax cuts for very small interest groups. I would say that covers about 99% of the bills introduced this past session.
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Well, and then when we were talking with Bob Boswell to see how this plays out is that Colorado’s GDP, I need to get to this. I got too many different things open now. But we used to be in the top regarding all the states’ GDP, and we are now near the bottom. But yet we’re near the top regarding regulations. My friends, connect the dots. Government isn’t there to help you. Government ultimately is going to make things worse for you when they get out of the proper role of government, out of their proper lane, Pam.
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Right, and how many businesses are no longer wanting to come to Colorado because even with, like the Colorado Sun reported that we offered $1.45 billion for new businesses and incentives, and the uptake was about 5% of that was claimed. Even with incentives now to attract new business because we’re losing new businesses, to other states that have a better economy and less regulation, businesses are saying, no thanks, we don’t want to come to Colorado. We know exactly what your government is doing to businesses.
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Okay, I found the article, and Colorado’s GDP fell to number 41 in the nation. The other thing is, again, government incentives are a form of force because it’s coercion. And you see these economic development offices in the local, the county, and the state level. And when I was on city council initially, I thought, oh, my gosh, I love the idea of economic development. Well, what I’ve figured out, though, government economic development means that your PBIs are picking winners and losers, those that have to play by all the rules and those that don’t. And then what happens is where we are now in Colorado, number 41. and the nation in 2024. So I tell you what, we’re going to go to break early, Pam, because I want to give, you know, full, it’s a great segue into your essay, The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics. And we have these important discussions because of our great sponsors. And another great gift idea would be a gift box of some great cuts of meat from Lavaca Meat Company. And it truly is a premium product. It’s the steakhouse experience at home, and it is a lovely gift for friends family, and your employees.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of all of these sponsors that our independent voice is on the air. Pam Long is on the line, and she is a regular essayist here at the Kim Munson Show. We greatly appreciate that. She is also the director of the Children’s Health Defense Military Chapter, a graduate of West Point, former Army veteran of the Medical Service Corps, and she served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO Stabilization Forces. health force i would say here in colorado and for many years and she always does this great essay at the end of the year the best and the worst of colorado politics 2024 so where shall we start pam long where do you want to start the most important issues to voters this year were homelessness housing costs immigration cost of living taxes crime in the economy And all of these things that people are concerned about has onerous government effects on all of them right now, I think, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, let’s just take immigration. I think because we had this entire migrant crisis play out for the ideology and the reality, right? So let’s look at Denver. So going into 2024… The Denver Mayor, Mayor Johnston, announced he would spend $45 million for 1,000 migrants to put in shelter and receive services. That is $45,000 per migrant. In comparison, our state is paying about $9,000 to educate our students, but our migrants were given $45,000 in support upon illegal entry into the Denver area. Let’s throw out some other figures that are just It’s staggering. The Denver mayor committed to $15 million per month for a forecast of $180 million for the year for what he was calling a humanitarian mission and our obligation for shared sacrifice. Let me show you how that shared sacrifice played out for taxpayers. A cut to the fire department by $2.5 million, cut to the police department by $8.5 million, cut to the sheriff’s office by $3.8 million. And our health services were overrun. Denver Health reported $135 million in uncompensated care for migrants. UC Health reported $580 million in uncompensated I’m compensated care for migrants and the uninsured from the previous year. And our nonprofits were strained to the max. Aurora nonprofits reported serving 325 families a day at food pantries. Other churches shut down trying to host just makeshift shelters for up to 200 people. Not enough resources or volunteers to make that sustainable and And the Denver Public Schools reported $14 million in shortfall due to the 200 to 300 migrant students added to their school populations after student count and funding. I mean, this Ultimately, Denver spent $120 million, and this complete program failed. It was not compassionate to bring people to a cold climate without resources. And the mayor’s office, even by April, was announcing, please leave Denver. We will transport you out of Denver because there’s too much suffering and no opportunity here.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s really it’s really unconscionable what has happened. And again, it’s all because of bad public policy. But what would you say is the best immigration response plan?
SPEAKER 13 :
So the immigration experts at the border near in Texas, they all agree that the states who receive the most migrants had a pull factor. Pull factor is offering free housing, food, shelter, transportation to migrants in Denver and advertise that pull factor. And so communities like Douglas County made a very public resolution to mitigate the pull factor, saying that they passed an ordinance saying that prohibited commercial buses from dropping off passengers in unscheduled locations with a fine of up to $1,000 per incident. And this was a very effective and clever policy, because remember, there’s two laws in Colorado from 2019 and 2023 under the Polis administration that prohibit local governments from working with a federal immigration enforcement in detention. So their hands are tied in many ways that needs to be legally challenged. And, I mean, that is complete corruption. So the counties who said we are not sanctuary cities, do not come here, we will enforce our local laws, those counties did not see the crime and the exhaustion of public resources. We’re talking Denver cut the DMV services to its taxpayers. It cut parks and rec for its youth. The city, she declared, we are not sanctuary cities. Our citizens come first priority. They are not second-class citizens to migrants. Those are the counties and cities that won in 2024.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and as you’re talking about that, those that are pushing policies such as Mike Johnston’s, they try to make Americans feel badly when we just want to keep our community safe. We want to keep more of our money to take care of our families. And the analogy of if you’re on an airplane, you’ve got to make sure that your oxygen mask is on properly. correctly, otherwise you can’t help people around you. And it’s basically like they’re trying to take the oxygen mask and give it to everybody else. And that’s a real problem. So you’ve done a great job on shedding light on that. What about homelessness?
SPEAKER 13 :
So before this surge of 40,000 migrants to Denver in 2024, which, by the way, was the largest per capita number of migrants than any other major U.S. city. I guess we can say, look, we tested the limits of alleged humanitarian relief, and it failed. It was completely unsustainable. But before all this, Denver had up to 9,000 homeless people in the prior year, 2023. So Denver created this Denver Basic Income Project to give cash to homeless people. I can’t even believe I’m saying this. This is so fiscally irresponsible. The program gave out $6.5 million to 800 people in three different payment strategies, ranging from $50 to $1,000 per month. And now there was a mid-project about six months into this 12-month study, pilot program, whatever you want to call it, indicated a 30% increase in people living in homes. Now, however, we have no idea how this has played out in the This is not a long-term solution. The benefit of this program is completely unmeasured in cost-benefit effectiveness. This program has no restrictions or requirements on how people spend the money. They don’t have to spend it on rent. So I would say, you know, The majority of our homeless population have drug and alcohol addictions, which interfere with employment. This program does not address that. It does not give job skills to homeless people. There is no measure of this program that says it’s effective or the cost benefit justifies continuing the program.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, but there was a best homelessness policy as well. Who was that?
SPEAKER 13 :
So the research overwhelming – our governor and our elected leaders are not using data and research to make decisions. They’re using ideology. Long-term research supports that to build resilience in people, they have to have some form of productivity in society. This is studied in all sorts of populations – homeless, addiction, veterans with PTSD – This is kind of my field in mental health, that purposeful work in society could be as simple as walking your dog or your neighbor’s dog. Those are like just doing something that has purpose and meaning. So I found a faith-based program at the Denver Rescue Mission Harvest Farm, which allows men to live in a pure house if they work on a farm and remain sober. Programs like this are effective because they bring in those components of accountability, responsibility, and that eventually lead people who are in crisis to gain the skills to financial independence.
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And Pam, I really believe that. So Mike Johnson wants to say giving all this stuff away. And that means you can’t give something to somebody that you haven’t taken away from somebody else first. But he is trying to say that this is a compassionate. I think that the most compassionate thing that one man can give to another is is a job and that’s dignity of work and so this program with the denver rescue mission harvest farm the there’s dignity in knowing that you are earning something that you will be receiving value in return for and that’s capitalism and it’s a value for value and there’s such dignity in that and i think it’s important to drill down on that
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, absolutely. And accountability is the piece, too. Aurora passed a tough love program called the HEART Program, Housing, Employment, Addiction, Recovery, and Teamwork. This is a great concept of blending accountability with compassion. homeless people who you know tend to engage in panhandling and low-level offenses of theft this program once once enrolled the person is put on a probation until they complete the program and then and then the charges are dropped but while they’re in this program they are getting help to get back on their feet right they’re they’re being offered services to get off the streets and job skills and all the programs that are available to them so that they will become productive members of society, which every man and woman wants. No one wants to be homeless. Sometimes we just need to help people access the resources that are available. Handouts are not a long-term strategy.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they’re not. And again, the dignity of work, the dignity of trading value for value is really, it’s so important. And Pam, in your essay, you have links to back up all of this information. And again, as we’re going into the holiday season, I think it’s good that people are informed on these critical issues so that they can engage in thoughtful and reasonable conversations about this. So let’s talk about crime.
SPEAKER 13 :
So the worst crime policy is ignoring crime. That is also documented in decades of research, a lot of it coming out of New York City. And the New York Post reported Governor Jerry Polis ignoring crime. And this made national news. And this is an embarrassment to the state of Colorado. We’re where the city council members and the mayor of Aurora were reporting to their governor the problems with the Venezuelan gang taking over these apartment buildings. And the governor polis basically said this is their imagination. This is our governor gaslighting the people he was elected to serve. And so what we had is we had video footage, police reports, All of this evidence that it was happening in our governor gaslighting our local leaders in this particular building, Mayor Kaufman said, was funded for migrant housing. Goes right back to another bad policy of, you know, Denver, you know, humanitarian mission, alleged humanitarian mission to house the migrants created a gang running apartment buildings in Aurora, in our state. In America, this is like, I can’t even wrap my head around this happened in our state and in our country. And then when the New York Post, you know, asked for a statement from the governor’s office, the Post’s spokesperson responded to the New York Post saying, well, the governor really hopes that the city council members in charge stop trashing their own city when they are supposed to keep it safe. This is an appalling gaslighting, and there were confirmed Venezuelan gangs in Aurora, migrants who illegally entered into this country, and that is a terrible policy for crime.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and we had Danielle Jurinsky on, who is the Aurora City Councilwoman, who really, I would say, broke this story or broke this issue. And it is unbelievable how this whole thing has played out in Aurora, but it looks like that they’re… You know, shedding light on it is important. And I think that we’re going to be working forward or moving forward and get this addressed. Trump certainly is. And he’s focused on Aurora as Operation Aurora regarding all of this illegal immigration here in America. Pam Long.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. We have a lot to be hopeful and praying for in 2025.
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the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the Center for American Values. It’s located on the Riverwalk in Pueblo, Colorado. They do a couple of things. They honor our Medal of Honor recipients with their portraits of valor, which are just beautiful and inspiring, and then also some great educational programs to make sure that we remember these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. Pam Long is on the line, and she has a really important essay that I would highly recommend, and it is The Best and the Worst of Colorado Politics 2024. And she is the director of Children’s Health Defense Military Chapter, a graduate of West Point, a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps. And so she’s on the line, and we’ve got Nancy as a caller, and she had something that she wanted to comment on. Nancy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you. I assume you can hear me. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
We gotcha.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. I just have, I guess, a question for Pam. You know, I’m someone who tries to follow what’s going on at the legislature. There’s so many bills. And I also live in Larimer County, and I’d like to figure out how best to work with my local legislators, even though we’re on different sides of the aisle, and how to keep track of these bills. Like, do I just look them, like right now, before the session starts, how do I find out what they’re coming up with?
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So let me jump in here. First of all, Nancy, I would recommend that you join CUT, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. It’s only $25, and we have a team of volunteers that goes through the legislation, and we will rate things regarding things that affect our taxes or our property rights. So that’s a really excellent place to start with. And then also you can go to the state legislature website and you can find the bills that are scheduled for hearing for the week. So that’s another great way. But I really would recommend people engage with us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. So, Pam, your thoughts.
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I second the Colorado Union taxpayers. I benefit from their information. My hot tip, my insider tip for Nancy would be, so these legislators are writing the bills now in November and December with their special interest groups. And then they pretend in January when they introduced them that there was some stakeholder process where the public was invited to have input as required by our laws in the Administrative Procedure Act, which is clearly not happening on 99% of these bills. So because we know this is happening, We can go to our state representatives and our state senators in December, meet them for coffee, have a phone call, meet them up someplace locally and say, hey, what are your bills? We know they’re already drafted. And don’t limit yourself to your district representatives and senators. I care about public health. So all those people who keep running these horrible public health bills who are influenced by, you know, $70 million in lobbyists at the Capitol, I go to those people like Kyle Mullica and say, hey, what bills are you running this year? And there are ways to extract that kind of information out of them and put them on the spot and say, look, you might not be my elected representative or senator, but what you do in the people’s house affects me and every person in this state. So we will have this conversation.
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Pam, that’s an excellent point. And Nancy, this just made me think about this. When I was on city council, 2012 to 2016, and many of these city councils, they get to a point where they just want a rubber stamp of these agendas. And the study session is where a lot is revealed on the agendas. And so we would get our packet typically, oh, I want to say on Thursday, I think. for a tuesday meeting and so i’d have the weekend to go through the packet and it might be hundreds of pages long and what i finally realized then and and there might be agendas out there that i didn’t understand was was going to might be presented because they many times wouldn’t let me know because they realized that i wasn’t going to rubber stamp stuff and so i finally got to a point where i would meet with the city manager uh, once a week, either phone call or in person. And I’d go through the packet and then I’d say, and what else do I need to know? And so that way, uh, I was able to, if they didn’t tell me, and then I was surprised it was, um, not because I hadn’t asked. So Pam, what do you think about that strategy as well? When you’re talking with your city council, uh, men and women and your county commissioners, it’s like, what else do you have up your sleeve?
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That’s just a great strategy. And without saying too much, I have employed that strategy myself where, okay, I’m just going to say it because this is the times we live in. Everyone needs to be equipped. I really care about public health, but then I get wind of someone running a terrible bill on public health that I know they won’t talk to me about. So I will go and talk to them about another bill they’re running that maybe I support. Maybe it’s actually like a good bill about education, let’s say. And I say, you know, we have common ground on education. And then I say, well, what else are you running? And you can tell, you can make them squirm that they, you know, maybe they’ve gotten comfortable with you. Maybe they don’t want to tell you about that public health bill they’re running. But, you know, now they’re chatting. Now they’re talking to you and that you’re going to pull out the details of the bill they didn’t want to talk about.
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So, Nancy, what do you think? Are those a couple of strategies that can help?
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I like that. You know, I’m a little late to the plate here with the January starting up down at the legislature, but these are great ideas. And I will, you know, see what I can do to employ them. The other thing I found that’s just really helpful, if you can build a relationship with one legislator, you know, they often will then, no matter whether you agree with them all the time or not, but if you can build trust with one, sometimes they’ll let you in on some of the other things that are happening. So that’s one other tip that maybe worked for me. Yeah. That is a great tip from Nancy. Yeah. I just didn’t know if there was a way to see what these proposed bills are without actually meeting with all these people because of time constraints, but we won’t know until they’re posted. Is that correct?
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Yeah.
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In most cases, yes. Yeah, pretty much. You know, another, and I would say Colorado Union of Taxpayers and then Sue Moore and her group with Liberty Scorecard, between these two organizations, that will keep you really, really informed on what’s happening down at the statehouse because there’s a bunch of volunteers that do a lot of work for you, so I’d recommend that as well. So, Nancy, thank you. I think we’re going to have to recommend that people make sure that they read your essay, Pam Long, because there’s a lot more information. Maybe we’ll get to a couple more things here. But Eric had wanted, last time you were on, I think that we misspoke, if you will, regarding the space command. I think that we said, I think that you said that… It might go to Arkansas. And Eric wants to make sure that everybody knows that it’s Alabama is where it might go.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, thank you for catching that. It is Alabama. I do the 7 a.m. hour, which is, you know, little mistakes like that happen when you’re getting up at 6 a.m. And Kim, you get up at what, like 3 a.m.? So thank you. Yes, it’s Alabama.
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I know. I know. So let’s see here. This is from one of our listeners. It said there are wake up. There are two purposes, votes and jobs for cronies. I’m not quite sure how that whole thing connected. And then let’s see here. Another one. This was regarding Doge. Colorado is to get rid of government economic development organizations. Zero. None. Totally agree with that. And if we could get rid of these government grants at the national level that are going down to local, county, and state government here in Colorado, that would be a great way for us to get our DOGE, our Department of Government Efficiency, really off and running, Pam Long. And we’ve got about a minute, so your final thought. I know we’ve thrown out a whole lot for our listeners.
SPEAKER 13 :
Everyone needs to engage like never before at the state capitol. This is, you know, Polis going into the end of his administration. I mean, he could just throw out all sorts of, you know, the super damn majority could do all sorts of last minute, like scorched earth bills against our way of life here. So everyone needs to be involved in January at the capitol.
SPEAKER 12 :
And also, I think local governments, we have got to get engaged there as well. And I know it seems overwhelming, Pam, but everybody just needs to choose one thing, whether or not it would be the state legislature or it’s your local government. But if we all choose one thing and we’re engaged and informed on that, we can make the difference that we need to. And, Pam, I am convinced that Colorado is at the tip of the spear. This is the place where they are trying to – run the petri dish for all of the bad stuff and so when i say in the show at the beginning that we were made for this time in history we are the patriots of america and i mean we take inspiration from them and we were made for this moment pam long i have no doubt about it that’s right colorado let’s take back our state that this is our time And yes, we will reclaim Colorado. Pam Long, thank you so much. Be sure and be on the list for our email newsletter so that you can see her essay that we will be publishing in the Sunday newsletter. And then it will be on the website as well. Pam Long, thank you so much. Thank you, Kim. And our quote for the end of this show is from Milton Friedman. And he said this. He said, the essential notion of a capitalist society is voluntary cooperation, voluntary exchange. The essential notion of a socialist society is force. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you’re not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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I will fight for the right to live in freedom.
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