Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Oh to be a fly on the wall when The Inklings were meeting. Professor of History at Hillsdale College Brad Birzer introduces his latest book Tolkien and the Inklings: Men of the West. Retired Border Patrol Agent from the San Diego sector Chris Harris addresses the organized Ice protests. Molly Lamar discusses the sudden retirement of Cherry Creek Schools Superintendent Chris Smith. Co-Owner of Spartan Defense Teddy Collins shares updates regarding onerous legislation that makes you less safe. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Friday, Producer Joe. Happy Friday, Kim. Happy Friday, and man, do we have a great show planned for you today, so fasten your seatbelts. Check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Make sure you’re signed up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhood, or lives via force. Force can be a weapon, it can be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fees, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum and globalist elites that is playing out all the way to local government. Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, and we’ll mention the people behind those issues, but stay out of the emotional personality fighting. We’re looking for reasoned, thoughtful conversations on all of these issues. Let’s jump in here. Our first thing is our word of the day is destiny. And I chose that because we’ll be talking about Ronald Reagan today. As you know, throughout the month of February, we’re really focused on George Washington. But today is Ronald Reagan’s birthday. And he had the time of choosing speech, which we’ll talk about a little bit later. But the word destiny, and he uses destiny, and that is the inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined. One’s lot. Number two, it could be a predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control. Or number three, the power or agency thought to predetermine events. Destiny spelled D-E-S-T-I-N-Y. And it should be easy for you to be able to use that in a sentence today. Our quote of the day on Fridays, we go to the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, co-founded by Drew Dick’s Medal of Honor recipient from actions he took during the Vietnam War. And Brad Padula, who is an Emmy award winning documentary maker. And this book, I’d recommend that you have it at home on your desk. Freedom Library. This is from, the quote is from Thomas R. Norris, United States Navy Medal of Honor recipient born 1944, actions taken on 4-10-1972. And this is his citation for his Medal of Honor. And it is Lieutenant Norris completed an unprecedented ground rescue of two downed pilots deep within heavily controlled enemy territory in Quang Tri Province. Lieutenant Norris, on the night of 10 April, led a five-man patrol through 2,000 meters of heavily controlled territory, located one of the downed pilots at daybreak, and returned to the forward operating base, the FOB. On 11 April, after a devastating mortar and rocket attack on the small FOB, Lieutenant Norris led a three-man team on two unsuccessful rescue attempts for the second pilot. On the afternoon of the 12th, a Ford air controller located the pilot and notified Lieutenant Norris. Dressed in fisherman disguises and using a sampan, Lieutenant Norris and one Vietnamese traveled through the night and found the injured pilot at dawn. Covering the pilot with bamboo and vegetation, they began the return journey successfully evading a North Vietnamese patrol. Approaching the FOB, they came under a heavy machine gun fire. Lieutenant Norris called in an airstrike, which provided suppression fire and a smoke screen, allowing the rescue party to reach the FOB. By his outstanding display of decisive leadership, undaunted courage, and selfless dedication in the face of extreme danger, Lieutenant Norris enhanced the finest traditions of the U.S. Naval Service. And this is his quote. He said, everyone faces seemingly overwhelming odds sometime in their life. Never give up. And we are at a time right now, a time of choosing. And we need to take great heart from these Medal of Honor recipients. They took action when the situation presented itself. We’ve got a situation here in front of us. It’s it’s. It’s sneakier, it seems like, but it’s here. And many people are stepping forward to take action on the different things that are facing us. Let’s see. Our bill of the day. is House Bill 26-1013, and this is ratio, let’s see, the exact title is ratio utility billing systems. One has to ask, should government be involved in this whatsoever? The answer is no. It’s concerning the use of ratio utility billing systems by a landlord to allocate utility charges to tenants. and the prime sponsors on this are representative emily sirota representative javier mabre senator lisa cutter and senator mike wiseman and cut the colorado union of taxpayers has taken a no position on this and you can our commentary is this the bill allows landlords to define to divide utility costs among tenants the The bill narrowly narrows permissible charges allowed under House Bill 25-1090. So you can see how they build on these bills. That was from last year. They build on these bills and just it becomes more constricting, more constricting. So this bill disallows landlords from charging tenants for utilities related to common areas. Cuts opposition is based on the improper role of government interfering in private business contracts. the exclusion of utility costs for common areas and the improper use of the safety clause and i did want to say thank you to my fellow cup board members and really would encourage that you join us that website is coloradotaxpayer.org it’s only 25 that way you will get first look at our emails that we send out on monday to legislators and the governor regarding the bills that we’ve taken positions on for the week On Friday afternoon, I take a look at all the bills at that time that are scheduled for hearing, and then look at these bills through this lens of how does it affect the taxpayer, which is all of us. We all pay sales tax. So how does it affect the taxpayer? Protecting Tabor, Colorado’s Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights, property rights, and parental choice in education. then we take those positions and we will send those positions to the legislators with commentary which i think i know is very helpful for legislators as they are trying to determine the proper role of government and so join us the other thing is you’ve got some homework to do and i can see this coming in go to coloradotaxpayer.org click on cut engaged on the top it’ll bring down at this point there’s eight bills that we have submitted that you can make your voices heard within basically 30 seconds per bill, if not less. We all need to weigh in on this House Bill 26-1001, which was the very first bill out of the chute. It takes away people’s voices. It takes away transparency. and will allow if through an administrative process again no transparency none no people’s voices where on school land or universities church land transit orientated land that again without any any comment from the public bypassing the regular processes for development just allowing it to happen administratively that it could plop a three or four story affordable which the word is subsidized housing development into neighborhoods and changing the fabric of the neighborhoods property values and no matter what you think about the subsidized housing over here taking away people’s voices, bypassing the processes that are in place for other development. Actually, we need to reduce the rules and regulations on that other development as well, because it’s making everything unaffordable. So government makes things less affordable, then comes in and picks winners and losers through a non-transparent administrative process. This is not right. And so we need to continue to shed light on that. I know many of us can’t make it down to the state house, but if you go to coloradotaxpayer.org, click on Cut Engaged, go to House Bill 26-1001. You can weigh in on the others, but weigh in on that. If we have a lot of voices that are sending emails on this, it is going to make a difference. We’ve got to take a stand here. And I know you’re all busy, but do that. I can see as more and more of you are doing that every day. And thank you. The other homework that you have is to go to protectkidscolorado.org and contribute to them.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. As you know, during the month of February, we are focusing on our founding, what was going on 250 years ago and different happenings with George Washington. Because there are three important birthdays during this month, and that is George Washington on February 22nd, Abraham Lincoln on February February 12th. And Ronald Reagan’s birthday is today. He was born in 1911. He died in 2004. He was an American politician and actor. He was our 40th president. And he was a member of the Republican Party. However, he had been a member of the Democrat Party. And he became an important figure in the American conservative movement. And I went to… His speech in 1964, it was called the speech, it was delivered in various forms into different audiences as each word was honed, measured, and memorized. During the 1964 presidential campaign, Republican Party officials in California who knew Reagan’s powerful speech and delivery asked him to film a speech on behalf of the Republican candidate, Barry Goldwater. The speech was aired on October 27, 1964, and it was electrifying. and um i i wanted to just share a portion of this now he was talking about the cold war we have a different cold war we’re in an ideological cold war we are at a time of choosing of whether or not america will continue we are in our third founding and so you can change the words just a little bit and but think about it we have an enemy now actually within And he said this. He said, If we continue to accommodate, and I’m going to interject here, and this is on this ideological battle that we’re in. If we continue to accommodate this lie that boys can be girls, girls can be boys, that men can be in women’s spaces, this is an appeasement, so we’ll continue on. He said, if we continue with this appeasement, and to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand, the ultimatum. And what then? When Khrushchev had told his people he knows what our answer will be. He has told them that we’re retreating under the pressure of the Cold War and someday when the time comes to deliver the final ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary because by that time we will have weakened from within spiritually, morally, and economically.” Take a look at where we are in America right now, but there are many great patriots that are stepping forward. We’re going to talk with one of them here in just a moment because of the great work she’s been doing. But going on, Reagan says, he believes this because from our side, he’s heard voices pleading for peace at any price or accommodation at any price or better red than dead. Or as one commentator put it, he’d rather live on his knees than die on his feet. And therein lies the road to war because those voices don’t speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace, so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin? Just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the Pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard around the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where then is this road to peace? It’s a simple answer after all. You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, and the i’m talking about the enemies we are facing today my friends there is a price we will not pay there is a point beyond which they must not advance and this this is the meaning in the phrase of very gold waters peace through strength winston churchill said the destiny of man is not measured by material computations when great forces are on the move in the world we learn we’re spirits not animals and he said there’s something going on in time and space and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty. You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We’ll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we’ll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness. That’s Ronald Reagan, his speech, A Time of Choosing. I want to welcome on Molly Lamar. She has been fearless in her work care for standing up for our children. She had been a candidate for the State Board of Education. She’s been watching what’s been happening at Cherry Creek School District, which Cherry Creek School District used to be the school district people wanted to get their children into. But a lot of things have been happening there. But she’s got some very interesting news. Molly Lamar, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me on. So excited, the last time we spoke, I was reporting on, which was, you know, just last, or yeah, January 28th. And that afternoon we received notice that the superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools, Chris Smith, resigned. And it was a brighter day for children and staff in the Cherry Creek Schools, so.
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For people that don’t know, the environment in the administrative offices had gotten very toxic. And I know from a curriculum standpoint, Molly, I had parents that reached out to me maybe eight years ago concerned about curriculum in the Cherry Creek schools. But the… The toxic environment in the administrative offices was getting to a point of it was almost impossible for people to work in Cherry Creek in many ways, yes?
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Yes, and I think that the resignation of Superintendent Smith is not just a change in leadership, that is a victory for the hundreds of teachers and parents and staff who finally broke the silence on this toxic culture. For years, people have been afraid to speak up because the superintendent’s wife, Brenda Smith, has been the chief of HR. And so we don’t have a checks and balances system that’s broken. But she has also, she’s been put on administrative leave, which is another victory.
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This is really huge because I know you and many other families and parents have been working for a long time regarding your concerns with Cherry Creek Schools.
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yes and it you know it’s just it’s not just about workplace stress allegations from dozens of insiders if any of your listeners have watched the channel 7 investigative reporting you have teachers who have come forward but they’re so afraid of losing their position within the district that that they mask up, they wear hoodies, they have a voiceover, they’re that afraid to come forward. And that’s just an indication of bullying, demeaning language. You have high performing principals who are afraid to speak up for fear of losing their careers. I mean, we’ve had reports from principals saying that the Smiths You know, Power Duo says to them, you are annual employees and if you don’t toe the line, you’re gone. I mean, some of our principals have been there for decades and it just isn’t okay. And then, you know, we’re currently hearing that just from staff that one person being gone hasn’t fixed the problem. There’s still more to go and still more work to be done, but the dominoes have started to fall.
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So Molly Lamar, ultimately, this comes down to elections. So what has happened is that elections really matter. So the people are supposed to elect the school board, which is supposed to represent the people. And then the school board hires the superintendent, who is supposed to do the day-to-day operation of making sure that our kids can learn how to read, write, and do arithmetic. And what I’ve learned, that many of these salaries for these superintendents are king’s ransom. They’re very… They’re very high, yes. And when you and I were talking the last time you were on, I had tried to find from Open the Books the payroll of Cherry Creek Schools. And so I reached out to Rachel O’Brien after you and you’d been on the show. And I said, hey, I’m trying to find the payroll for Cherry Creek School District, but I can’t find it. And so she checked on it and she came back and she said that they have requested that information. And Cherry Creek School District has come back and said that they would charge them a very high price to provide that information. information which should be open to the public and I am realizing we’ve got a big transparency problem not only in Cherry Creek School District but across the state and I think this transparency issue is an issue that is going to resonate with the people because when you don’t have transparency you don’t have trust and then take it another level, you start to get to a point where it sounds to me like it was almost dictatorial what Chris Smith and his wife were doing there. And so they both, even though they have resigned, they probably have significant pensions that they will be living off of. And I think it’s important that people realize that as well.
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Absolutely. All on the taxpayer’s dime. And Thank you for mentioning the Board of Education. There’s a history of the Board of Education not doing its job in Cherry Creek. Thankfully, the board has stepped in somewhat here. They put a travel freeze, a six month travel freeze on all district level travel. talking about transparency. It’s like being handed an onion and deciding just to peel back one layer and then realizing there’s another and it just keeps going. The level of corruption and what I believe to be fraud on the taxpayer’s dime is really concerning. And the board the board needs to do its job. We don’t, we need a full audit and we have, you know, we have interim leadership who’s Dr. Jennifer Perry, but she’s been, I wanna give her the opportunity, but Jennifer Perry has been part of this culture for a very long time. And so we’ll see what happens, but, There needs to be full transparency. Parents, taxpayers, teachers need to be part of this process of finding a new superintendent. We need to go in a different direction. And the lack of transparency and communication needs to stop. The district needs to show parents that they intend to do better, go in a different direction, and fix this, not just for… but for our teachers. I mean, can you imagine getting up every morning and getting ready to go work in a classroom of 20 plus students and feeling like your job is at risk? You can’t, that’s a culture of fear that you project that onto the kids. And so the environment is not only unhealthy for our teachers, it’s unhealthy for our children.
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Well, and ultimately, the elected representatives, the school board, are responsible for this. They are supposed to have the oversight on the superintendent. And also, they need to be watching what’s happening with the employees and with the results. And so, Molly Lamar, you and I are going to continue this discussion because this is so important. But this is great news. And again, the reporter that it was not because the school board I don’t think realized that there was irregularities, if you will. It was because of this reporter. And so let’s give him the kudos that he deserves. What’s his name again? His name is Tony Kowalewski.
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He’s an investigative reporter from Channel 7. He was supposed to resign today. But stayed on, has stayed on to continue reporting on this story. We are so grateful to him because truly without him, none of this would have been possible. This has been years and the board has been… um ignoring emails and outreach from parents and complaints from teachers they have received I mean even in 2022 they received a letter from a former board member saying these marriages are a conflict of interest this power struggle is your power duo is a conflict of interest they rewrote policy and just
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Ignored it. Wow. Well, we’ll continue the discussion, Molly Lamar. I thank you for this. I congratulate you because this is a big step. We’ll continue to shed light on it, and we’ll talk with you next week. Thank you so much. Have a great day. And these important discussions happen because of our sponsors. For everything residential real estate, you’ll want to talk to Karen. Whoops, I’m sorry. It is the Second Amendment. And Teddy Collins, we’ll talk with him in the next hour. He is the owner of Spartan Defense and a co-founder of the Second Syndicate.
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thank god it’s indeed it is friday and do check out the website for the usmc memorial foundation that is usmc memorial memorialfoundation.org and they are preparing for their golf tournament it’s one of the first ones out of the shoot for the season it’ll be in may and they have early bird pricing for that so great way to support their great work taking care of the marine memorial and raising the money for the remodel as well as have a great day of golf and again that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org and i am so pleased to have on the line with me brad berzer he is the co-founder of and senior contributor at the imaginative conservative he is a russell amos kirk chair in history at hillsdale college and fellow of the ronald reagan presidential library dr berzer is an author of in defense of andrew jackson russell kirk american conservative American Cicero, The Life of Charles Carroll, Sanctifying the World, The Augustian Life and Mind of Christopher Dawson, J.R.R. Tolkien, Sanctifying Myth, Understanding Middle Earth. He’s the co-editor of The American Democrat and Other Political Writings by James Fenimore and co-author of The American West. But he has a book that will be coming out soon, Tolkien and the Inklings, Men of the West. And it’s so appropriate that we have Brad on today since he’s a fellow at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. And today is Ronald Reagan’s birthday. Brad Berzer, welcome.
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Hi, Kim. It’s really good to talk to you. It’s been a while. It’s great. And I remember your husband and I loved meeting you guys when I was out in Colorado. So it’s really great to be connected.
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It is so great to have you as well. And somehow I was doing some research and this new book comes out. Now, it’s not going to be published until later on in the year, right?
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That’s right. November 17th is the release date.
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OK. And it’s Tolkien and the Inklings, Men of the West. And I did that when I was writing the promo on this. I thought, oh, to be a fly on the wall with these guys, the Inklings. And so people explain who the Inklings are for people that may not know.
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oh sure well i would argue that the inklings are the most important literary group of the 20th century and so it really starts with tolkien and his best friend c.s lewis and we know that they actually had met with one another in the mid-1920s And then they started coming together as friends by the end of the 1920s. And then they invited a number of other friends to join them by about 1931. And so some of these other friends at the time, very famous philosopher by the name of Owen Barfield. There was a theologian by the name of Charles Williams. There was a biographer, very famous in his own day, Lord David Cecil. So there were a number of these guys. And it’s really amazing, Kim. Tolkien and Lewis were so close, and I don’t know how they could do this, but they would meet every Monday morning at a local pub before they would have their first lectures for the week. They describe in their notes that they would have two or three pints of beer before their not do that. That would not go over well in my classroom, nor would Hillsdale College approve. So they would meet on Monday mornings and do that, and then anybody who wanted to come could come meet them from 11 o’clock to 1 o’clock on Tuesdays at a very famous bar called The Bird and the Baby. And so you would have people from all walks of life who would show up and talk with Lewis and Tolkien. And then they would meet again on Thursday nights, just a small group of them, usually about 5 to 10. They would meet on Thursday nights. in c.s lewis’s rooms at oxford and they would read their poetry or j.r tolkien read the whole lord of the rings out loud to all of these guys so they would share their manuscripts with each other on thursday nights and kim this went on from 1931 until 1949 so just you know an incredible group overall just amazing
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So I’m intrigued with the title, Men of the West, because Brad Berzer, I think we are at a shared part of Ronald Reagan’s A Time of Choosing. And I think it’s appropriate now. Now, granted, he was talking about the Russians, the Cold War. But we have, I think, an enemy within us. America now. And we have those that I think want to take down America and those that understand that we are really under attack. And then there’s the big, broad, big, broad Part of America people that don’t realize that under the surface we’ve got this ideological battle going on and in the Speech by Ronald Reagan he said something. I thought was so interesting he said When great forces are on the move in the world we learn where spirits not animals I found that Fascinating I think it probably relates back to Tolkien and the inklings so how would you connect all that I?
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Oh, that is beautiful. Yes. I love that. That would be fantastic if Reagan was intentionally bringing out the inklings. But there’s no doubt that there’s a parallel there. So Lewis and Tolkien were both extremely conservative men in every way. And most of the inklings were as well. There were a few exceptions, but they were generally men of the right. And they were deeply concerned about Western civilization. And Kim, as I like to remind my students, you know, We do think we have it bad in 2026 and we do. But imagine being an Englishman in the fall of 1939 and you look out and the Nazis have just taken Poland. The communists have just taken Poland. You’re this kind of sane little island in the middle of nowhere. You’re preserving Western civilization and the whole world is going to hell at that moment. And so I’m not surprised that, you know, when we read something like the Lord of the Rings, one of the reasons that we’re so moved by it is because the heroes are, as they describe themselves, the men of the West. They’re they’re doing what they need to do to protect their equivalent of Western civilization. And Lewis gave a very famous talk. You know, it’s interesting. It’s often not remembered. He did not have a good position at Oxford when he was there. He would have been considered like a visiting associate professor. He never went up in the ranks at Oxford. But in 1954, he was given the most prestigious position. endowed chair at Cambridge. So it was a huge jump for him. And it’s what he deserved. He absolutely deserved it. And he had been treated horribly by Oxford. So here he gets this chair at Cambridge. And when he’s given the chair, he’s asked to give the inaugural address for the chair. And his whole speech is how there has been some change in Western civilization from Jane Austen or Edmund Burke up until today, and that the old Western men are dinosaurs, and that he’s one of these dinosaurs. And if you really want to understand Western civilization, you better interview him before he’s gone. So they clearly were very conscious of in their way of defending Western civilization. And that’s one of the things that I try really hard to bring out in the book, that when we’re reading The Lord of the Rings, and I think Peter Jackson does a great job of this in his movies, but when we’re reading The Lord of the Rings, we are truly being called to arms to defend Western civilization.
SPEAKER 16 :
So with that, Brad Berzer, in The Lord of the Rings, when Aragorn is at the gate, I can’t now, I’m sure you remember, I can’t remember. Mordor, sure. Yeah, and where he’s on his horse in front of the troops and he’s saying, not this day. That speech is just, it gives me a lot of grit, I guess, to continue on to engage in this battle of ideas. So I think that’s such a powerful, powerful speech that he gave at that gate. Yeah.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, no, I agree. It’s a beautiful moment. And Tolkien is drawing upon, in that moment, he’s drawing upon actual history of Western civilization because there’s this incredible moment on September 10th of 1683 where Vienna is under siege. It’s about to be taken out by a very, very, very powerful Muslim by the name of Mustafa the Black, right? And at the moment that he is about to conquer Vienna, and if he can conquer Vienna, he can sweep his Islamic armies throughout all of Europe at that point. Vienna is the last stronghold, and he will just destroy Europe immediately. and at the last moment completely unlooked for rides in the polish king with a thousand mounted bullish knights a guy by the name of jan sobieski shows up absolutely in the nick of time and that so that moment in the lord of the rings is a reflection of that last moment and and we Me, Kim, I mean, it’s really amazing. So Mustafa the Black is defeated on September 11th, 9-11. He’s defeated on 9-11, 1683. And the Muslims make their declaration at that point that when they have revenge upon Western civilization, it will be on September 11th. So it’s definitely tied in with our history very strongly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, goodness. So that goes to the attack on America on September 11th.
SPEAKER 23 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. There’s no coincidence there.
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Goodness. OK. OK, Brad Berger, this is fascinating. I knew that this conversation was going to go way too fast. And it is. So we’re going to go to break. And we have these amazing discussions because of our amazing sponsors for everything mortgages. Reach out to Lauren Levy.
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SPEAKER 23 :
Thanks, Tim. You know, a huge part of it, one of the great blessings, and I got to do this the year I was at Boulder, too. But one of the great blessings of being at Hillsdale is I get to teach great books and great ideas. So I get to talk about Homer and the Odyssey and the Iliad, and I get to talk about Virgil and the Aeneid, and I get to talk about Dante and the Divine Comedy. And so all of those to me are inspirations. They’re moments. in which there’s a kind of declaration, this is who we are and this is what we stand for. And I think for so many young people, especially the Lord of the Rings, along with Narnia and what C.S. Lewis wrote, but the Lord of the Rings especially has become their mythology. It’s their understanding of what’s going on. And so just like we were talking about right before break, someone like Like Tolkien believed very strongly in defending Western civilization. He thought the best way to do it was to tell stories. And here we are, amazingly enough, not only on Ronald Reagan’s birthday, but we’re also in the year that is the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. You know, the story we teach about the Declaration of Independence will affect the next several generations of Americans. So if the people who are and I think it’s wicked in a terrible way, the people who teach the 1619 project that America is only about slavery, if they get their way, we’re going to have a lot of disgruntled citizens for the next 50 years. But if we can convince those saying people that, no, we’re not just the country that had slavery. We’re the country that ended slavery. We’re the country of abolition. You know, if we can tell that story, then we can tell a victorious story. So I think for someone like Tolkien and that whoever is telling the story is really shaping the minds of the future. And so that’s why the story has to be told. And Tolkien himself was very, very pessimistic. So was Lewis. They both kind of worried that Western civilization was over. And they thought that what they were doing was probably defending Western civilization for a much, much future generation, not for the immediate generation, but say for a generation ahead. 100 or 200 years from now. So they were not optimistic at all. But then, of course, you know, you see something like the Lord of the Rings just catch on like wildfire throughout the 1960s, 70s, all the way up until today. And it resonates, you know, even if if kids pick it up. And they don’t know all the nuances of it. They’re still being taught a really good story about doing the right thing. And that’s incredible. One of the things I teach my students, Kim, is that when you look at Lewis and Tolkien, one of their greatest successes is that they make good, interesting stories. Good is not boring. Good is not cheesy. Good is really interesting. And so few authors can do that. Most authors, we take someone like Stephen King, who I think is very creative. But the only way he can make it interesting is by making it really dark and violent. Tolkien and Lewis did not do that. They made it very interesting by being bright and beautiful without being Pollyannish. And that’s an amazing accomplishment on their part.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Brad Berzer, you are with young people on a regular basis as a professor at Hillsdale College. At the end of my show, I’ve said, read great books, listen to beautiful music. And, Brad, we only have a certain amount of hours in the day. And I’m from western Kansas. My dad was a farmer, in fact. One of my sponsors, Roger Mangum, was in the other day, and I said something along the line. My dad would always say, today is the day the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad. And Roger said, was your dad a pastor or a preacher? I said, no, but he wanted to be. But my dad always said that we have 24 hours in a day. And actually, this is going to be a great quote. I chose a J.R.R. Tolkien quote for the end of the day, and it’s very appropriate. He said, we all have 24 hours in a day, and we make the decision on how we’re going to spend that. And as we’ve heard all of these different conversations about equality, and of course using the word equality to take from one person to another or put people into groups, I realized the great equality is that we all have 24 hours in a day. and that we choose what we do with it so there is an equality in that time constraint and in that time constraint you can read junk you can listen to junk but those minutes are gone then i i think that if we are going to live lives that have meaning we’ve got to be very conscious about how we use each minute of each day and i i think that’s a very western philosophy uh your thoughts brad
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, absolutely. And Kim, my mom’s side is all from Western Kansas as well and wheat farmers. So my family’s from Hayes. And yes, so I know Western Kansas well, and I know the kind of character you’re talking about. That’s my family, too. And I love, of course, Tolkien told us in the conversation with Frodo and Gandalf, you know, when Frodo says that I am I’m so sorry I have to live in these times. And Gandalf says, so are all who live in these times. But it is not for us to choose. We only get to choose what we do with the times in which we find ourselves. And I think that’s a great way of thinking about life. And when you were talking just a moment ago, Kim, it reminded me also of St. Paul, where he tells us, whatever is excellent, whatever is beautiful, dwell upon these things. And that I think we’re called to scripturally. We are called to actually look at the beauty in God’s world. You know, and imagine we know that every person we meet has fallen. But imagine if we went up to someone and met them and just in our minds kind That is, we instinctively look for the image of Christ in every person we meet, or at least we should do that. And I think that’s a very powerful way of thinking about the world, not looking at our sin, but looking at the glory that God has put in each one of us.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and also, I was just thinking as you were saying that, Brad, about equality, is there is a great equality in that Christ went to the cross for each and every human being. And, of course, each of us has to make a decision on what we… And I think it’s something I’m trying to… I think Lewis said something along this line of that… Each of us then have to make a decision on what we will do with this Christ. But I think there’s a great equality in knowing that he went to the cross for each and every individual.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, absolutely. Right. There is neither Greek nor Jew, male nor female. No, absolutely. Right. This is critical that Christianity is the first world religion that absolutely embraces a proper equality of all human beings, men and women, black and white. Doesn’t matter. Yeah, absolutely. Ken, I’m with you completely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Brad Berzer, we have one minute left. How would you like to wrap this up? This is absolutely fascinating.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, no. I don’t know, Kim. What would you like to talk about in our last minute? No, I mean, thanks so much for having me on. Like I said, I was in Colorado 2014-2015, and I so enjoyed meeting you and Molly and your husband Tom. I remember everybody, and it was such a great year for me. I’m very happy here at Hillsdale, but that year in Colorado was just pure joy for me as well and for my family. So, thank you. You were so gracious then. And it just means a lot that you guys were so open and welcoming to me that year. And yeah, so thank you for that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Brad Berzer, this interview is pure gold. So we’re going to have to make sure that we don’t let so much time go between the next interview. So I will be in touch.
SPEAKER 23 :
Anytime. Thanks, Kim.
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And our quote is from J.R.R. Tolkien. He said, all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. So, my friends, today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. If you missed our number one, you’ll want to catch that today, one to two in the afternoon on all KLZ 560 platforms. The conversation with Brad Berzer, professor at Hillsdale College, regarding J.R.R. Tolkien and the Inklings was absolutely fascinating. So check that out. uh and thank you i really appreciate each and every one of you for listening tell your friends about the kim monson show as well because we’ve got a lot of work to do but you are each treasured and valued you have purpose and today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history Thank you, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Producer Joe, the conversation with Professor Berzer was absolutely fascinating in hour one.
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Yeah, it was, and it made me really think about the scene in the first Lord of the Rings where Frodo’s looking at Gandalf, and he’s like, I don’t want this, Gandalf. Take it from me. He doesn’t want to have the task of the ring, and Gandalf looks at him and goes, that’s exactly why you have to, Frodo.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, there’s so many. Well, and another thing, Joe, you’re a young person. Lord of the Rings, and Professor Berzer mentioned this, but this has really resonated with young people, yes?
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Yes, it is. It’s a commitment, that’s for sure, to read the book or watch the movie, that’s for sure. But really fascinating discussion. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. We are under construction right now, so stay tuned. We’ve got some really cool stuff that’s going to be happening, so stay tuned. Sign up for our weekly email newsletters, though. You can do that at the website. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And let’s see here. Thank you. I always like to say thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station as we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the show, we focus on the issues. We’ll mention the people behind those issues, but we work to stay out of all the personality, emotional stuff going on over there. and want to have these reasoned conversations to help you then have reasonable conversations with your friends, family, colleagues, as we are engaged in this battle of ideas that is raging in our country. Our word of the day is destiny, and I chose it because today is Ronald Reagan’s birthday. He was born in… 1911 he died in 2004 and from his time of choosing speech from 1964 that was televised in 1964 he said that we have a rendezvous with destiny and so that quote or that word of the day is d-e-s-t-i-n-y and it’s a noun it could be number one the inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined one’s lot number two a predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control number three the power or agency thought to predetermine events Our quote of the day, and you can buy the Medal of Honor quote book by going to the Center for American Values website. The center is located in Pueblo, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. And this is from Thomas R. Norris, United States Navy Medal of Honor recipient born in 1944 for actions taken on 4-10-1972. He said this, he said, Everyone faces seemingly overwhelming odds sometime in their life. but never give up our bill of the day and we would encourage you to join the colorado union of taxpayers so that you can be informed on what’s happening as my friend pam long said cut is your shortcut to know what is going on down at the state house and there’s a lot of naughty stuff that’s going on down there but this particular bill is House Bill 26-1013, Ratio Utility Billing Systems. The sponsors on this are Representative Emily Sirota, Representative Javier Mabre, Senator Lisa Cutter, Senator Mike Weisman, all Democrats. And it is concerning the use of ratio utility billing systems by a landlord to allocate utility charges to tenants. This is not the proper role of government. And cut our commentary as we are a no on this. We said this bill allows landlords to divide utility costs among tenants. The bill narrows permissible charges allowed under House Bill 251090. This bill disallows landlords from charging tenants for utilities related common areas. Cuts opposition is based on the improper role of government interfering in private business contracts, the exclusion of utility costs for common areas, and if you can believe they put the safety clause on this saying that this needs to be put into law immediately without the review of the people this is crazy and that’s why we we need to make some changes down at the the state house although uh senator mark basely has thrown his hat in the ring for u.s senator And our sponsor with Spartan Defense, Teddy Collins. Also, he’s a co-founder of the Second Syndicate, has thrown his hat in the ring as well. And he’s got on the line. Teddy Collins, welcome.
SPEAKER 22 :
Hey, thanks for having me, Kim.
SPEAKER 16 :
and uh good to have you so first thing teddy as you know well and you were at the colorado union of taxpayers event uh last week and great to have you um but and you’ve thrown your hat in the ring for uh state senate which is great but i you go ahead
SPEAKER 22 :
I was going to say for Mark Baisley’s former seat, just to be clear, he’s running for federal Senate and I’m running for his Senate District four. He’s endorsed me in that race. And we do joke. I know he I think he had the high score for state senators, but I plan to beat that score. So I got to give him I give him a earful every time I talk to him. So it’s a good it’s a good competition between me and him.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that’s regarding being a protector of the taxpayers. And yes, Senator Baisley got very high marks from the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Teddy, as I looked at our Bill Track 50, which is what we use to track our bills, as of this morning… There’s 244 pieces of legislation or resolutions that have been introduced down at the State House right now. That’s on top of, you know, hundreds. Last session, we don’t need any new laws. We need people that are saying we want to repeal these laws and regulations so that everyday people are freer to live their lives, Teddy.
SPEAKER 22 :
Correct. I mean, that’s a ridiculous amount of legislation. Last year, I think it was almost double that by the time the legislature was over. We’re still getting bills introduced every day. We just had another concerning anti-Second Amendment bill that was introduced, I believe, yesterday, or actually day before yesterday now, that’s going to put even more regulations on federal firearms licensing dealers. We’re calling it the home FFL killer because it’ll actually put about 40% of FFLs in Colorado out of business. That is HB, I think, 1228. I’ll need to look up the number. I’ve been tracking about 30 pieces of legislation right now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. We’ll try to take a look on that as well. And I just looked at this. So Friday afternoons is when I have to go through all the pieces of legislation that are scheduled for hearing. And I’m looking at this. This is daunting. It could change a bit. But as of right now, they’ve got 69 pieces of legislation scheduled for next week. And there is no way, Teddy. Sure. that these legislators can read all of this stuff that’s then being put into law a lot of times particularly on the democrat side and this democrat party that is in control in colorado is not the democrat party of your grandpa and your grandma or jfk these are radical activists that want to control our lives
SPEAKER 22 :
It’s progressive and socialist, Kim. The question is, why are we legislating so much? It’s a ridiculous amount of legislation. It’s just government interfering in our everyday lives. Honestly, legislation isn’t really necessary in most cases unless it’s protecting a right or if it’s funding something. That being said, that’s not what these bills are doing. They are funding quite a bit of things, as you’ve seen from the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, quite a lot of unnecessary things. So, yeah, citizens just need to get involved. We need to take our state back. It’s getting ridiculous.
SPEAKER 16 :
We do have to reclaim our state. And we in America have citizen legislators, although as I also look at this, I realize that these radical activist Democrats, many times they might be involved with a nonprofit that is their job and that’s how they are paid. But it’s supposed to be regular everyday people. stepping forward to represent their neighbors. And so with that, you are an entrepreneur. You are co-founder of Spartan Defense, which is a very impressive firearm store in Colorado Springs. And tell us a little bit about Spartan Defense.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, so we’re one of the largest family-owned and operated gun stores in the state of Colorado. We’re located in Colorado Springs on the east side of town off of Powers and Barnes. And we carry a unique selection of things. We don’t just have what you find at your everyday big box store. I have people that come across the state for our selection. We have about 28 state-exclusive and city-exclusive brands. We’re the top dealer in a lot of the more luxurious categories such as Staccato or Atlas and guns of that nature. But we also have state exclusives like Cabot, Alchemy, Bull Armory, things like that that you’re not going to find at your everyday big box. So I’ve shipped to all 50 states, including almost every territory in the United States at this point, including Puerto Rico and Guam. People from around the country do shop with us, as well as from around the state. We get people from Denver all the time. They come down to the store to check us out and to see our wares.
SPEAKER 16 :
And Valentine’s Day is right around the corner. And probably a gift certificate to Spartan Defense could be a lovely Valentine’s gift. Yes?
SPEAKER 22 :
Absolutely. A gift certificate, gift card. You know, we do offer education, training and classes as well. And, you know, Kim, I got to send you a box of chocolate since Valentine’s Day is coming up here. So I’ll throw something in the mail for you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Sounds great, Teddy. And two things. How can people get information about your campaign and also about Spartan Defense?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yes. So they can go to Collins for Colorado dot com spelled out. That’s Collins for Colorado dot com. They can find out more about what I’m running on, why I’m running, who I am and what’s led me on this path. And then, of course, for Spartan Defense, it’s just Spartan Defense dot com. So, you know, support local shop with local businesses. There’s a lot of FFLs out there that are suffering right now. You know, even if it’s something that you that only I can get for you, let me know your FFL is and I’ll reach out to them so that they can get some credit, too. And they can get some support as well, because at the end of the day, there’s enough business to go around and we need to be supporting each other as federal firearms licensees.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, very good. Teddy Collins. Great. We will talk with you next week. You have a great day.
SPEAKER 22 :
Hey, Kim, thank you. God bless and stay safe out there, guys.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure to check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And the USMC Memorial Foundation is preparing for their fundraiser for their golf tournament, which will be in May. They’ve got early bird pricing on the website right now. It’s USMC Memorial Foundation dot org. And you will be able to have a great day of golf, support the foundation as they take care of the official Marine Memorial, which is right here in Golden, Colorado, and prepare for the remodel. And it’s just a great place to help remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me Chris Harris, and he is a fan favorite of the show. He is a retired Border Patrol agent from the San Diego sector. And with what’s going on in America, very important conversations. Chris Harris, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. As always, thank you for having me on.
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Well, it is good to have you. And let’s talk about ICE and these ICE protests. We are learning, not from mainstream media, but from independent media, that these protests are well organized. They’re well funded. I think they’re actually, in many ways, trying to take down the United States of America. Is that too strong of a statement, Chris Harris?
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I know. Maybe a while ago I might have said, hey, that’s a little bit strong, but you know what? I have to agree with you, Kim. This came out. There’s another billionaire. He’s in Hong Kong, Nabil Sigmund. He’s very tight with the Chinese Communist Party. He’s funding a lot of this, directly funding these activists. So there are people… I mean, let’s get this straight. There are four nation states that hate the United States of America, that would like to see us fall. And, you know, you could throw in… mainly in China, China’s communist government, Russia, North Korea, Iran, several other places that really hate us and hate our constitutional republic and would like to see us fall. And there are people, and everybody throws around George Soros, but that is true. He’s another one. They’re funding these people. So they get a lot of people that are, I hate the derogatory stuff about people say things, but there’s a lot of people that are sheep. I have people in my family that they’re older, white, you know, fairly well off people. They have nothing to do. Their kids are grown and they get sucked into this and they really start believing it. And we’re seeing these protests, but understand the protests really are only happening in blue states and blue cities. They just did a massive raid in that raids in West Virginia, which is not a sanctuary state. They worked with local law enforcement, state law enforcement with the feds, and they sacked up 660 people that were bad people. Not one right. Not one protest. So it’s only happening in blue states and blue cities. And they’re going crazy. I mean, in Minnesota now, in Minneapolis, there are literally people, you can see the films, they’re all like older white people. They’re putting blockades up on the street and demanding IDs from people to make sure they’re not ICE. So let me get this straight. You don’t want the federal government checking for people’s IDs, but you, you yourself with zero training, zero accountability, you think it’s okay to stop cars with a mob and demand to see their IDs. Wow. That’s past troubling. You’re looking at troubling in the rearview mirror. You’re past that. That’s dangerous, and that’s how you go to losing your country.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I did not realize that. So I’m trying to process through this. This is what is crazy about the left is what they say that they’re concerned that Trump and the federal government are doing is actually what they’re really doing. It’s called projectionism. And so I did not realize that, that people are stopping cars, basically asking for your papers.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is dictatorial. Yeah. So as I always say, and I usually say at the end of our conversation, but I’ll say it now, we have to decide as a nation, do we want to be a nation of the rule of law, which goes all the way back to the Magna Carta and certainly with our Constitution, do we want to be a nation state that’s the rule of law, or do we want to be mob rules? And mob rule, once you start it, is a slippery slope and it does not stop. And then that’s where we don’t like the laws. We don’t care that they are the laws of the land. We’ve chosen we don’t like them. So we’re not going to obey them. We’re not going to let you enforce them. And where do you stop? Where does that stop? That’s OK, because we choose by a mob that we’re going to stop you from enforcing duly problematic laws that were signed into law decades ago by a House, a Senate and a presidency. Nobody’s touched them since then. But you also don’t like them. And you’re going to use violence and anarchy to stop the enforcement of that. That is not good. I mean, you’ll lose your country. If mobs can get together, decide we don’t like this or we like this. We don’t like that you got elected. We’re going to remove you. Yeah, good. Welcome to the French Revolution.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the thing about mobs, Chris Harrison, you probably know this more than anybody because you’ve been in law enforcement, is that people do things when they’re part of a mob that they would not do as individuals. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. So you’ll have people that would probably normally tell you over Thanksgiving dinner, oh, their uncle’s a cop. They support the police. When they’re mobbed, they’ll be in the mob and they’ll be throwing rocks and bottles and fireworks at the police. They’ll get caught up in it. And maybe they’ll feel shame later on. I really don’t care. But it doesn’t help that cop that lost his eye because a rock hit him. Like, look, I’ve got hit in the head with a rock by a smuggler. It is not a pleasant thing. I was at a work for almost three years. uh with traumatic brain injury you you just but you get caught up in it and they do and again maybe they’ll feel shame later on you know great but you’ve already done the damage And you set that place on fire. You’ve broken those windows. You grabbed that woman that you thought was a reporter and you’ve manhandled her or worse. And that’s happening. And it has happened. And that’s you. You’re exactly right, Yvonne. And I’m thinking of your buddy there, Ron. Kim, you’re exactly right. Mob rule is terrifying. It’s scary. That’s how you get your house burned down. That’s how you get people beaten, people killed. And if we’re allowing that in these cities and states that are blue, because some of the Democrats think that that’s a tolerant thing to do. we’re in in a lot more trouble than i think a lot of us realize and i i’ll posit this too and i mentioned before my wife’s from mexico she naturalized i was very proud to watch her hold the flag and come to a citizen she did it not that hard that people act like it’s impossible to do she did it but when we look at these pictures of people protesting and she’s like there’s not one person of color in that you know in that picture it’s all you know older white men and women mostly women it’s like How patronizing and condescending can you get when you think you’re somehow defending the people of color who are not even there? That’s kind of ironic and humorous, but in a non-funny way.
SPEAKER 16 :
So connecting that dot then, because in our conversations, Chris Harris, you’ve said that what is happening in these blue cities of Denver, which is one of them, we haven’t turned into the powder keg of Minneapolis yet, but we very possibly could because it’s a sanctuary city. is that the way it’s supposed to work and i saw that headline as well in west virginia is the criminal and many times these these people have deportation orders against them for whatever reason they’ve been apprehended they’ve been put in jail And then when they’re let out of jail, the local authorities could let ICE know that these people who have deportation orders against them, they’re there. ICE picks them up, takes them, and deports them. But what’s happening in these blue cities, at least my understanding in my conversations with you, is instead of that happening, they’re releasing these criminals into communities. So then that means that ICE has to go into communities. And then these organizers, billionaires or whatever, they have… And in fact, I had shared some pamphlets that were given to me by somebody that had been in a Mexican restaurant a number of years ago. It says, if ICE comes to your door, you do not have to open the door. And it had all these different things that… that were, I’ll put this, rights for somebody that has a deportation order against them. And so they’re using America’s Constitution, I think, against us on all this, Chris Harris.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, let’s understand, the Supreme Court has ruled over and over again that, and people that are on the right to say this, they’re actually wrong. Everybody that lives in the United States, is protected by the Constitution. Whether you’re here legally or not, unfortunately, that’s how it’s written. It means pretty much everybody here in the United States is protected by it. Now, understand that for years, nobody had a problem with I mean, when I was when I was working for the union for National Border Patrol Council and my local, I was director of political affairs out here. I would meet with Democrats. We’re talking about 2014, 15, 16. Barbara Boxer and others, Senator Barbara Boxer, others. And they all understood that getting rid of criminal illegals was good. They had no problem with it. And then something happened in a few years after that, and they all switched to positions. And now it’s to defend people that are here illegally already, which is breaking the law. It’s a federal crime. It’s 8 U.S.C., 8 United States Code, 1325, entry without inspection. So… These are people that have not only broken the law to get in here, but broke further laws while here. And in the past, the way it would work was, and I did it myself, it was called a 247 hold. We would go down to the police department. We had an agent assigned on each shift every day. And that was my duty assignment for the day. That’s what I did. PD transport, PD liaison. We would go to the station, like setting a PD station. They’d call us and say, hey, this guy might be illegal. Do you want to talk to him? Sure. And then I would ascertain from questioning him and our data banks that he was, in fact, here illegally. So then I would give them a 247 hold, and they would tell us when they were going to release him so we could pick him up. And it worked very well. Now, under this, in the last year, the left has said we’re not having that. The liberals have said we’re not having that. The Democrats have said we’re not having that. We’re not going to do that. And so Tom Holman and I know Tom, Tom was a border patrol agent before he became ICE. So Tom Holman said, if you want to play that game, if you don’t want to release him to us from the jail or the prison or even a courthouse, which is the safest way to do it. He’s already in custody. He doesn’t have a weapon. We take your handcuffs off. We put our handcuffs on. Good to go. But if you don’t want to do that. then we are going to have to go into the community. We’re going to have to go into his house, his apartment, his vehicle, and get him. And then he said, and this is true, because when I was under a bomb and all that, it was called collateral damage. If somebody was with that person, your target, you weren’t allowed to touch them, even if they were here illegally. Well, Tom said, nope, the gloves are off. If we go into your apartment to get you, because you’re our target, and you’re a criminal alien, we’re coming to get you, and we don’t care if your abuela’s in there. If she’s illegal, she’s going to. So do it the easy, smart, safe way, or we’re going to do it this way. And that’s what they’re doing. They’re doing it the hard way. And I’m going to give you a story that happened about two years ago. Your listeners could look it up. It happened in California. There was an illegal alien. He beat his wife or girlfriend so badly that he was charged, and he did a year in jail, county jail. He was released. They were not able to tell ICE or Border Patrol that they were releasing him. This was from the sheriff because he was disgusted. He did a press conference afterwards and said, I was not allowed to let them know. Well, this guy, they had a thing set up with a monitor at a local church. So he got to see his two kids with the monitor. So it was supervised. Well, what does he do? He goes in, sees his kids, shoots the monitor, kills him, shoots his two kids, kill them, then shoots himself and kills himself. And the sheriff said, if we were not a sanctuary state, this would not have happened. It would not have happened because I could have called ICE up and said, hey, this guy is an illegal alien. He’s done his time for us. We’re about to let him go. Do you want to come get him? And he said, yes, they would have come get him. But legally, because California is a sanctuary state, I could not do so. And that’s why those kids are dead.
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wow okay chris so that that’s gonna move us into this next question that i have for you we’re going to go to break but that is these administrative warrants i want to find out what you think about that um i’m a bit uncomfortable with them i it seems necessary but i remember with the patriot act i was uncomfortable with that and then oh okay well we’ve seen where that has gone regarding monitoring everyday U.S. citizens. So we’re going to continue this discussion with Chris Harris. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, talk to Karen Levine.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. And I think where it gets muddied is and it’s difficult, especially for moderates and independents is those who come here illegally. And the left tries to tell you it’s not illegal. It is. It’s a federal misdemeanor. But then they don’t break any other laws. And that’s happened for years. There was a lot, especially decades ago. They would come here. They would they would keep a very low profile. They certainly wouldn’t break the law. And they worked hard. And so deporting them is legal. But I think it does bother like the middle of the road people. And I get it. It’s a tough it’s a tough one. but but um when you’re when you my wife and i laugh about like they you’ll hear like they’re terrified they’re like anne frank hi literally because i see them in the streets with the mexican flag or the guatemalan flag fighting with police i see them when when they’re trotted into Congress, illegals, and to talk. How terrified are they really? But the groups of people you mentioned, I think most Americans should focus on that, and that should be our focus, is that’s the ones we want to remove. They’ve come here illegally, and then they’ve done something illegal, or they are, and my wife will say, this is from my wife, is that back in the day, they came here to become Americans, They want stuff. And my wife worked for the county for, you know, with benefits and saw that, that people come here, be here one day like, hey, I want this. Give me this. You owe me this. Yes, they need to go. You commit a criminal act while you’re here illegally. You need to go. And I just really want to sort of get focused on that. The media is going to tell you, no, that’s not what’s happening. Yeah, it is. Most of the people they’re apprehending. are criminal aliens or have done something wrong since they’ve been here. And there’s no right for them to stay. They’re here illegally. And it’s been twisted. So you see people being arrested in Texas and Florida and now West Virginia. No process. I mean, no problem. They’re being arrested. They’re going to be deported. There’s no rights. So why is it only in the blue cities and the blue states that are really trying to fight this? Why? Why are you trying to defend… Say a pedophile or a drug dealer or any type of criminal. Why do you want him to stay? So that’s what people want to ask deep down, especially the moderates and independents. Why are people defending them and protecting them? And that’s all you have to ask. Why?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that’s an excellent question. So this brings us to the next thing in. I’ve talked with many people, they say, well, Trump, and of course they play into this Trump derangement syndrome, this hatred of Trump, I think has been fomented for many, many years. So they say Trump is taking people out of their homes without a warrant. And, of course, having a warrant is constitutional. And so then I did a little bit more research, and I realized it’s not without a warrant, but it’s with an administrative warrant, which is different than a judicial warrant. Correct. A bit uncomfortable with it, but yet the research I’ve done is that there’s some constraints around it. Okay, talk to me about this.
SPEAKER 03 :
So when you get an administrative warrant, it’s usually through, like in this case, an immigration judge. Now, the funny thing is, a lot of these judges are retired federal judges. So, I mean, they’re not, you know, they don’t know the law, but there are constraints on it. I myself have issues with it to a point. So normally in the past, administrative warrants, we use them. You’re walking down the street. We’re going to get you. You’re driving down. We’re going to get you. We rarely, if ever, use them to go into your house. Now, they’re saying that they’re using them now to go into people’s houses. I don’t know that for a fact, but let’s posit that they do. I am somewhat uncomfortable with that. I truly am, because I really believe in the Fourth Amendment. I believe in all the amendments to the Constitution, but our Bill of Rights particularly. So you’re supposed to be safe from search and seizure, and a federal judge or a local judge, depending on what the crime is, could issue a warrant, a search warrant, an arrest warrant, and then, yes, you can go into somebody’s house. So I’m not sure if they are actually using these just to go to people’s houses now. But if they are, I have concerns. Because if you really want to get somebody and you’re targeting it, then you should go that extra step and get a federal warrant. Now, it’s difficult when you’re trying to arrest, you know, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people to get those federal warrants. I am comfortable using an administrative warrant to arrest. You’re walking down the street. You’re our target. We, you know, we sack you up. I am a little bit uncomfortable going into a house. So really, I think what’s going to happen is if they are doing that, using administrative warrants to go into people’s houses to arrest them. I think what you’re going to see is that the Supreme Court will ultimately be the arbiter of this, as they should, and will make a decision. Yes, that administrative warrant has the authority of a federal warrant to go into your house or no, it does not. So but we have we have checks and balances. So, you know, when they start saying, oh, it’s like Nazi Germany. And now it’s not. It’s not the Gahan stop. Suppose I go into your house in the middle of the night, stacking you up and taking you to Auschwitz. It’s not happening. The Supreme Court will ultimately rule on that. Like, can you use an administrative warrant that’s issued by an administrative judge to go into someone’s house? And that’ll happen. And then, you know, they’ll decide, yes, it is constitutional. No, it’s not. So, I mean, the checks and balances are in place. I, like you, am very much a constitutionalist. So I’d like to see the Supreme Court weigh in on it sooner than later to see that it’s okay. But we’ve used administrative warrants forever for, you know, he’s walking down the street. There he is. He’s your target. Here’s our administrative warrant. The judge has ruled that he’s got a prior order of deportation. Go get him. That’s fine. And, again, not to beat a dead horse too much. Now I think what they’re talking about is like, oh, my gosh, they’re going to people’s houses. I don’t know that for a fact, but, again, if they are, it’ll certainly work its way up to the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, but there – and this is, again, where it gets twisted, is those on the left are getting information out into the community that if ICE knocks on the door, you don’t have to answer the door. So they’re being counseled on ways to – To elude ICE, if you will. So it’s messy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I guess that’s all I can say is it is messy. Activist groups, I’ve even worked with some of them to try to build some bridges when I was in the union. They’ve been doing that for years. Actually, they’re right. You don’t have to answer the door. You literally don’t. And we used to call them knock and talk. You go to the door, knock on the door and talk to them. you have the right as an agent or an officer to talk to anybody they have the right to not talk to you so there’s a give and take uh but yes they counsel them in all the ways to not do it i don’t be honest with you kim i don’t care about that it’s when you are you are now impeding to vehicles, ICE vehicles, federal agents vehicles. You’re blocking them. You’re blowing whistles in their ears and air horns. You’re literally now impeding. There, I draw the line. If you want to tell people, hey, here’s your constitutional rights. You don’t need to talk to anybody. God bless. I really don’t care. They’ve been doing that for years, Kim. When you are now actively impeding Federal law enforcement, you really crossed a big line. And there’s no doubt you have crossed it. Now, you might not believe you crossed anything, but you have. When you’re actively assaulting, impeding, fighting with, they’re teaching them how to un-arrest people. In other words, how to get them out of a vehicle if they’ve been arrested. How to get them out of somebody’s physical control when they’ve been arrested. You’re breaking the law. You’re impeding. And you want to talk about insurrection? You’re doing that as a mass? I’m sorry. That’s insurrection. So, Kim, I’m going to say I don’t mind if they tell them don’t answer the door. I really, truly don’t care. They’ve been doing that for years. Don’t care if they want a virtual signal. The mayor wants to say, hey, don’t talk to them. God bless. But if we have a warrant for you, we’re going to get you. And that’s all. But to actively impede him, that’s dangerous to everybody involved. And people get shot and killed. And then everybody cries. Somebody got shot and killed. Well, why are you actively impeding? What do you think is going to happen? You’re going against the FBI, the U.S. Marshal Service, the U.S. Secret Service, the U.S. Border Patrol. You’re going against federal agents who are trying to do the job, enforce the laws that were duly passed and are constitutional, and you want to stop them. Okay? Place the blame. Win Superbright.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, and so I just want to connect a dot before we go to break and Chris is going to be on with us this last segment as well. But so it’s primarily white people that are doing this impeding that are doing these protests to keep criminals in these neighborhoods. And these criminals, typically the first people they prey upon. are people of color, the people in their neighborhoods. So we’ve got white, many times middle-aged, baby boomer protesters protesting to keep criminals in communities where they’re hurting the people in the communities.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is that a dot that is… And they are angry people, too. They are angry, and I don’t get it. But I’ll talk about that after you come back from break, what my theories are.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. This month is George Washington’s birthday in February, as well as Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan’s birthday is today. He was born this day, 1911. He died in 2004. He was an American politician and actor who served as the 40th president of the United States. And I have pulled this from his, it’s referred to as the speech, A Time of Choosing. and it was delivered in various forms and to different audiences as each word was honed measured and memorized during the 1964 presidential campaign republican party officials in california knew reagan’s powerful message and delivery and asked him to film a speech on behalf of republican candidate barry goldwater the speech aired october 27 1964. he said this He said, admittedly, there’s a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement. And this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face, that their policy of accommodation is appeasement and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we will have to face the final demand, the ultimatum. He says, Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the Pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard around the world? The martyrs of history were not fools. And our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where then is the road to peace? It’s simple. You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, there is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond which they must not advance. And this is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater’s Peace Through Strength. Winston Churchill said, the destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we’re spirits, not animals. And he said, there’s something going on in time and space and beyond time and space, which whether we like it or not, spells duty. you and i have a rendezvous with destiny we’ll preserve for our children this the last best hope of man on earth or we’ll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness chris harris i think we are at a time of choosing here in america with what is happening with these blue cities and these blue mayors regarding these ice protests again is that too strong
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No, I don’t think so. I just want to say Ronald Reagan in the modern time is my favorite president. He was my first president I could vote for. And then him and Maggie Thatcher and Pope John Paul II. I’m not Catholic, but Pope John Paul II. They accomplished amazing things, including the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union. Amazing thing. So I’m so glad that you talked about him today. Back to the blue states. Yeah, I think we’re into the point where it was if mayors and governors can just say we are not going to follow Trump. Not just that we’re not going to follow, we’re not going to allow the federal government to enforce these laws. There was a mayor that recently said some stuff, and it was very close to what Calhoun said before they seceded from the union. So you’re talking about very close insurrection when you’re using almost the same exact words that a southern politician used before their state seceded or attempted to secede from the union. Almost the exact same words. It was frightening. It was like, does he know what he’s saying? And so we’re at that point. And I’m not calling for civil war. I don’t want to see that at all. But I really want people that are supporting this to reflect on what are you supporting? You’re supporting not only not wanting to go along with, but actually impeding and fighting the enforcement of federal law and laws, by the way, that have been on the books for decades. have been ruled constitutional by the supreme court so you are choosing like i don’t care what the law says i don’t care how it became i don’t care what the elections say i don’t like it and we’re going to fight back and and a lot of them if you look at the pictures and the videos of this there are a lot of older white people they’re not people of color and they’re very condescending patronizing like they’re there to defend blacks or hispanics and my wife thinks it’s hilarious First of all, don’t ever say Latinx to my wife. She’ll go off because that’s you trying to tell her how her language should work. But you see these older people. And they’re in their 60s and 70s. And I started to give this some thought, Kim. So what’s going on that they’re so angry? So, yeah, we could say Trump derangement syndrome, but what’s really got them stoked? What’s got them out there? And I realized a lot of these people, they grew up in the 60s and they were young and they were protesting. And then they went with the program. They got jobs. They made a lot of money. They’re all pretty much upper middle class or even kind of low, low rich class. They have nice houses in the suburbs or some rural areas. And their kids are grown. They don’t talk to them anymore. They have nothing to do. And so now to find something to do with their lives, to find some purpose, is to go out there and find a cause… and and again i think deep down a lot of them are racist because you mentioned earlier projection they they do but they are doing the same stuff that they say others are doing i i watched a video clip just the other day my wife sent me and it was a white dude just standing out some kind of protest and he’s wearing a mega hat and an older white male come up to him and literally said i’m going to beat the hell out of you and the box was like i’m just standing here doing nothing wrong isn’t this america and and the white dude said i’m going to beat the hell out of you and he says why because you’re wearing a hat People have found a way to be outraged, and I think really it’s to find some purpose in their lives. A lot of them left the church. They’re not religious. They’re not part of organizations that used to exist, like the Lions Club, the Optimist Club, things like that, civic-minded organizations. They’re not part of that. Again, they’re sitting at home by themselves or with their spouses, and I think they want to find something that makes them feel meaningful. Unfortunately, I think they’re picking causes that are horrible, but there we are.
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Okay, big question. We’ve got a minute left. What do we do about this, Chris Harris?
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So people that have gone far to the left, there’s not much we can do. I have a member of my family that I don’t deal with too much anymore. I love her, but she’s just moved steadily to the left. She knows I, you know, one of my years in law enforcement, her brother was in law enforcement. She’s becoming increasingly anti-law enforcement now. What we do is we reach out and try to keep reaching out to and dialogue with people in the middle, the independents, the moderates. We can’t, as Republicans, call everybody that’s not as conservative as we might be rhinos. There are rhinos, but there are people that, in good faith, are moderates. And those are the people, Kim, we need to have these dialogues with. We need to tell them, okay, you’re watching this on CNN, but that’s simply not the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And we have to, without being mean-spirited, without using negative terms. I get so tired when they call them Democrats and stuff like that. That’s fourth grade. Treat people well, speak to them well, be intelligent, be articulate, and explain to them why, like, hey, maybe you’re not seeing the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and let me help you out a little bit, what I’ve seen and what I know. And that’s our only way for salvation for this country, is to keep those moderates and independents. understanding that this is what’s really going on, and please don’t be fooled by the left. Or they’re being told, like, everybody hates ICE. So they start thinking, like, well, then I have to hate ICE. It’s definitely not true. I have a friend up in Chicago doing Operation Midway in the Border Patrol. They had videos of people giving them high fives, giving them, you know, cheering them. So what you’re seeing in the media is not true. And, again, just to round it out, Kim, we need to keep that dialogue going with people that are independents, that are moderates, and that we can talk to.
SPEAKER 16 :
Chris Harris, very wise words, and we will continue the discussion. That’s why we do the show, is to really kick the tires on these ideas. We will talk again soon. Chris, it’s just gold what we learn from you, so thank you so much.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you for having me, Kim. You take care.
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And our quote for the end of the show is J.R.R. Tolkien. He said, all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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