The Kim Monson Show brings you an episode filled with thoughtful analysis and engaging dialogue on societal control and liberty. Starting with a tribute to spring’s arrival and a light-hearted weather discussion, Kim quickly transitions into more serious matters, challenging policies that employ force over choice. As Kim outlines the battle for property and personal rights under current legislative pressure, she invites listeners to consider how these issues align with historic American ideals. Further, the episode provides a rich discussion on climate change narratives and their influence on public policies. Kim scrutinizes Senate Bill 25-201, presenting it as a
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And boy, it’s starting to feel like spring. I hear the birds singing and the trees are budding. Spring is trying to spring or sprung. But I think there might be some snow later on in the week. So it’s Rocky Mountains. God, I hope not. Well, we’ll see. Because you know what? They can’t tell us for sure what the weather is going to be like tomorrow. How do they think they are going to tell us what the temperature is going to be like in 100 years, right?
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That’s a good question. Climate change.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So we’ll continue on here. We’ve got so much for you today. Be sure and check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. While you’re there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And Alan Thomas has a great essay that we published on Sunday, the, let’s see, The Malfeasance of the Left. I think it’s The Wonderful Malfeasance of the Left. You will want to check that out. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. And the text line is 720-605-0647. And I always do like to hear from you on that as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station. searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. and force can be a weapon but it can be policy unpredictable and excessive taxation fear coercion government-induced inflation the agenda by the world economic forum and the globalist elites played out through the united nations this legislature is so radical activists left as well as this governor here in colorado jared polis but you can see this assault upon property rights Via land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. We’re going to be talking with Virginia Maka, who founded Stand for the Land Kansas, as our featured guest in this hour. And she’s going to give us an update on these land grabs and what is happening. People are stepping forward now. to push back on that. Remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. The show comes to you on all KLZ 560 platforms. That’s KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM. The website and the app comes in loud and clear on Alexa. And the show podcasts are posted to Spotify and iTunes. So you can catch all of that. Let’s see, did want to mention, I guess we’re down to the, is it the final four? Where are we at exactly on March Madness? I know all the games were on yesterday, and I think that’s where we are. Obviously, I was not partaking and watching all of them because I just got busy with all the other stuff that we needed to do. But a great place to watch the games. Baseball season is opening up is Hooters Restaurants. And Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together to watch the games with friends. And wonderful lunch specials for both Monday through Friday and also for happy hour. Also, thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. and we really do appreciate it and again we are an independent voice on an independent station so we’re not paid and bought by anybody and uh let’s see here we just are all of you we are just grassroots coloradans who care deeply about what’s happening on the show Somebody asked me, Kim, what do you focus on? And we certainly focus on this great American idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And how does that play out? Well, first of all, elections are very important. And as you all know, we founded the Colorado 2024 Election Project, We have our two lawsuits in place, and we’re morphing this into Reclaim Colorado 2025-2026 because we’ve got much work to do here, my friends. So we’re going to focus on elections because if we don’t have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, we don’t have anything. And we’re seeing that play out today in Wisconsin. I know Peter Berninger is working diligently with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice regarding this Supreme Court election in Wisconsin. If the radical activist leftist wins, she will use her power to redistrict Wisconsin that will ultimately affect congressional seats. So this is really, really huge. And so stay tuned on that. But we’re working diligently. On these elections, Colorado is the petri dish for all of the stuff that they are trying to do throughout the country. I’m going to be writing a book about that, so stay tuned on that because we need to know what’s going on so that we can change it. But also climate change. Be sure and check out the documentary I’m involved in, and that is aclimateconversation.com. You can watch that for free. It’s been on Newsmax a number of times. It is the project of Walt Johnson, and he wanted to just have a conversation about all of this stuff regarding climate, and so brought in scientists and experts to talk about that. And I think he might want to do a sequel, so stay tuned on that as well. But that’s at climateconversation.com. So we focus on elections, climate change, our children, We have a duty to protect our children and obviously property rights. Property rights are inherent within the American idea. Our word of the day is presage. It’s spelled P-R-E-S-A-G-E. First definition could be an indication or warning of a future occurrence, an omen. Number two, a feeling or intuition of what is going to occur, a presentiment. Or number three, it could be a prophetic significance or meaning. So presage. That’s our word of the day. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And… Let me think about, let’s see, feeling or intuition is what is going to occur. If we do not get our elections under control so that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then we are going to continue down the road towards socialism and communism. Make no mistake, even though there are those that are saying that the Democrat Party is in disarray, and it is, they are not going to give up. The radical activists are not going to give up. And they realize that if they can take the congressional seats, the senatorial seats in 2026, that they can basically… thwart anything that Donald Trump is trying to accomplish for our country. Also, these local elections, and that would be special district, school district, your city, county, and obviously the state elections are super important as well. And so that’s why elections and the integrity of our elections is so important. And so your challenge is to use the word presage in a sentence today. Our quote of the day, I went to Sir Isaac Newton. He was born in 1643. He died in 1727. He was an English polymath, active as a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, alchemist, theologian, and author. He was a key figure in the scientific revolution and the enlightenment that followed. And he said this, if I have seen further than others, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants. And we here in America do stand on the shoulders of giants. Our bill of the day is Senate Bill 25-201, and it is to require age checks for online sexual materials. And this particular bill, I found it as I was going through all of the different bills for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it certainly piqued my interest. It’s not one that we chose because it didn’t fall within the purveyance of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. However, it piqued my interest, so I decided to do some more research on that. And I find it interesting. curious, I think. Again, Senate Bill 25-201. The prime sponsors are Senator Paul Lundeen, who is the Republican minority leader in the Senate, and then three Democrats, and that’s Senator Lindsay Doherty, Representative Megan Lukens, and Representative Mandy Lindsay. And I just think it’s curious the way this is set up. So I texted Senator Lundin and said I’d like to talk with him about that. So I want to talk with all of you about this as well. And so we’re going to do that here in just a moment. But a couple of things. Didn’t want to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. And they are going to have their second annual golf tournament out at the Ridge in, I think it’s May 15th. You can find the exact date by going to their website. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They have a limited number of spaces. It’s a great golf course to my understanding, a great way to meet some new people, a great way to support the Marine Memorial. More information on that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then we have wonderful sponsors. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Before we get over to this bill that I want to talk with you about, and then also we want to talk about Cut Engaged Colorado Unions of Taxpayers. This is our new service for all of you. This is from Colorado Politics. And on Saturday, the Colorado Republicans elect former county treasurer with Routt County, Britta Horn, as the state party chair. So we certainly congratulate her. Another thing that I thought was interesting, and this was from, I think it was from Axios, Denver 7, excuse me, and that is the Sundance Film Festival is moving to Boulder, Colorado. And what is interesting, though, is the state, as well as the city of Boulder, have given them incentives to do so. And And so if they want to move to Boulder, that’s one thing. But to use taxpayers’ money to entice them is not something that I think that we should be doing. I think that we should be lowering taxes across the board for all businesses. Now, it continually will cite that there’s additional new business and revenue that comes to the city. But quite frankly, I don’t think we should be using tax dollars anymore. to make that happen, lower taxes, lower regulations and rules across the board, so that businesses and festivals come to communities on their own volition instead of because of these gimmies that are given there. But that is big news on that. Oh, the other thing is, is the Colorado Assembly has sent this Senate Bill 003 to the governor, which is the magazine bill, which is one of the most radical Second Amendment bills in the country for the governor to sign. And when I say that Colorado’s at the tip of the spear on everything, I’m not kidding. That’s why these elections are so important. That’s why… Understanding what’s going on in Colorado is so important, and that’s why we will be connecting those dots for you. So stay tuned on that. So next thing I wanted to just read through this. Okay, so my friends, something doesn’t feel right on this. The Senate Bill 25201, and it is, I like the title, concerning requiring certain Internet websites that provide material that is harmful to children to verify the age of individuals who attempt to access such material. Okay, that sounds good, but notice it’s only for internet. We’re putting these pornographic books into our school libraries without any age verification. So why the internet? So me and my cynical on this, why the internet? Why are these Democrats pushing the pornography into our school libraries But here we have three Democrats, and I think Paul Lundeen, the Republican senator, I think he probably is looking at this as this is a step in the right direction. But something doesn’t feel right to me, my friend. So I want to hear from you, 720-605-0647. So anyway, in the bill summary, it says this. It says, on and after July 1, 2026, the bill requires certain Internet websites that knowingly and intentionally publish or distribute material that is harmful to children to, number one, perform one or more reasonable age verification measures to verify the age of the individual. So first thing, they’re going to want everybody to verify their age. So that means that people that are over the age of 18 are going to have to verify their age, which that seems a little bit like that might be something they wouldn’t want to do. Joe, I can see that you’re questioning this kind of like I am. Any comments as I’m running through this so far?
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I’m just wondering why the specific regulation. I also thought about, well, these kids can be 18 to see this kind of material, but they can’t drink a beer or own a gun.
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Well, that’s a good point, too. That’s a conversation for another day. Good point. So it goes on to say, it says, prevent children from accessing such material. And it says that these, it says a covered platform may not rely solely upon the geographical registration of an Internet protocol address. So that means they’re looking at your location. So there’s a lot of, I think, Fourth Amendment stuff going on here. and must apply extensive due diligence based on available technology before concluding the individuals not located in Colorado. So there’s all of that. So then in the legislative declaration, and they’ll go through all these reasons, it says, Getting this, it says, recognizing the widespread availability of online pornographic content and its potential harm to minors, the General Assembly finds it necessary to require the implementation of age verification measures to prevent youth from accessing such material. This declaration affirms the state’s commitment to safeguarding children from exposure to explicit content that may negatively impact their development while protecting the rights of individuals 18 years of age or older. says by requiring robust and effective age verification systems for access access to online pornography and requiring a non-identity document-based option this legislation seeks to uphold the well-being of minors while respecting the rights of adults to lawful next page here hold on lawful So then it goes on to say this. The General Assembly also finds that extensive research has demonstrated that exposure to pornography at a young age can contribute to adverse public health outcomes, including increased rates of anxiety, depression, and distorted perceptions of healthy relationships and consent. It goes on to say studies indicate that early and repeated exposure to sexually explicit material is linked to compulsive behaviors, desensitization to violence, and unrealistic expectations about intimacy, which can have long-term consequences on minor viewers’ mental and emotional well-being. And then it goes on to say, leading public health organizations emphasize the need for protective measures to prevent premature exposure to pornography, citing its potential to negatively influence adolescent brain development and social behavior. Okay, I agree with all that. Why, why, why do we have in Colorado this movement to make sure that we have pornographic material in our schools? so this goes on though i look at this more and it says a child means an individual under 18 years of age who resides in colorado but yet we’ve had all of this legislation that says 12 year olds can have an abortion and that they can give permission for uh like psychotropic drugs without their parents knowing so this is not matching up but then it goes on to say that it’s focusing on platforms that make revenue off of this. So I’m wondering if that leaves the door open for quote-unquote NGOs to promote this material. And is this also a way to start to control the Internet to some degree? Is this a way to… With online verification, that seems like that’s onerous, that an individual would have to provide that. There’s things that I’m concerned about. So I like the title. I like some of the whereas. But when you get into the guts of this, I think that there could be some real problems. I’d like to know what you all think about that. This piece, it’s Senate Bill 25201. It’s nine, it’s 10 pages, I guess. Let me know what you think about that. I think we need to have a conversation. And Joe, your comments.
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It kind of sounds like an information grab, like that AI bill that they’re trying to use for wild forest fires seems similar to that, where they’re just trying to get every last bit of information out of you that they can.
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That’s what I’m concerned about, because why is it only online? Why are they concerned about the age and everything here, and yet they are just adamant on getting pornographic books into our school libraries?
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Why are the teachers talking about it with second graders as well?
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Yeah, it just it does not make sense. It does not make sense. So a couple of other things that I wanted to mention and Colorado engaged. We have that up and running. My friends, you need to take advantage of this. We have spent time, money and energy to bring this to fruition. Go to the cut Colorado taxpayer website. That’s Colorado taxpayer dot org. And at the top, Click on Cut Engaged and it will bring up the bills that we have selected that you can very easily make your comments known to the sponsors of the bill and then you can add in your senator or your legislator as well. And one that I think that we have four bills that we selected for this week, but one that I think you all should weigh in on is House Bill 25-1244. It’s the Welcome, Reception, and Integration Grant Program. And the bill seeks to expand an existing program which awards money to NGOs for assisting migrants with language training, job searches, and navigation. Hold on here. Navigation. of the state’s financial assistance programs. And the bill changes requirements for the immigrant to have arrived within the past year, to have arrived within the last three years. You have an opportunity to weigh in on this. Go to CutEngaged. It’s super easy. If you have any problems, you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. We’ve got Gammy on the line. Gammy, you’ve got one minute to weigh in on this. I think you’re calling on Senate Bill 201. So what’s your thoughts on that?
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Correct. I got exactly the same feelings you did about everything when I read it and reread it. And what I don’t understand, They just made the case for that 063 library bill in this very messy thing. And the big question is, why aren’t you just attacking the materials and removing them? That’s what common sense would say. Why do you need to crawl into our underwear, our lives, our way of living, our parents, our rights? Why don’t you just stop the materials?
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from getting to the children rather than trying to create don’t look like another registry that all we’re going to see if we won’t yeah i i don’t know already deep messed up and it’s messing up on everything boy gimme thank you for calling in on that uh… at the same here and Paul Lundeen, I know that he probably has his name on it because he cares about kids. But these are things that we need our legislators to look at the long-term consequences and what is the underlying thing happening here. And, Gammy, thank you for weighing in on that. I’m like you. I feel danger, danger on this. But, Gammy, the language that they have in this bill… We can use that as we’re fighting to protect our children on all of these other things. So, Gammy, thanks for calling in. I really appreciate it. You bet. Okay. And all this happens, all these conversations because of sponsors. And we’re in the spring buying and selling season in residential real estate. And if you’re going to buy a home, sell a home, or look at a new build, be sure and have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And you talk about a force, though, a force to be reckoned with. is Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And even though we’ve not met in person, I feel we’re kindred spirits. Virginia Maka, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. How is everybody in Colorado? Well, we’re doing our best to fight all the nutso stuff out there, Virginia Maka.
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Oh, I’m telling you, Kim, I just listened to your last segment. And unintended consequences. we have so many representatives that are bringing forth bills that by the time that bill is done with the best intentions down the road the unintended consequences are devastating for property owners for taxpayers and even for our children in education so It’s been fun watching this last session of the legislature wrap up here in Kansas for the 2025 session.
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Speaking of that, Virginia, the Kansas Capitol has made the news with that satanic thing, and I’ve just kind of watched it just from headlines. Any comments on that?
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I do have some comments. We… our God-fearing people in this state. And there are lines, I believe, that are very clear, crystal clear, that are drawn in the sand. And to let the satanic thing go unanswered or even opposed by our leadership in the House and that variation of timeframes I mean, two to three weeks before anyone made a statement, I think was a true sign that leadership is absent in our capital. This was, there were some people that had to suffer unintended consequences, some young people that were standing up for what’s right for this country. And a black mass in your capital, that should have been an immediate response, not a dribble of, well, I’m not sure. Yes, it is free speech. But there are also boundaries of that free speech, I believe, that may have been violated. And it just seemed to be kind of a clown show. you know, when it all came down, and a governor with no backbone.
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Well, and we need to engage in this battle of ideas. So I think a response would be that we certainly, from a free speech standpoint, overwhelm the narrative there with the narrative of truth and clarity on these issues. One of the beautiful… things about America is our liberty. But liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And we are seeing the radical activists, extremists use these great foundational principles against us right now, Virginia. I know.
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It was, it’s, and me and you have often talked about, we are a country of laws, and we follow those laws. And including demonstrating and exercising our right to free speech. And as real followers and law followers, there are a lot of facts that haven’t came out about this, but repressing some of those free speech for one side versus the other was, It will come out in the end, you know, all the facts to be known. But it’s a stat affair when your state is to this point. And this session was a great demonstration of how freedom is wavering here in Kansas.
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Well, it’s really wavering here in Colorado as well. However, you, I, so many people are getting up every day and engaging in this battle of ideas. And where you really have become an expert, and I think it’s almost… You hadn’t planned on this. And that was property rights. But property rights are inherent within the American idea. The idea that everyday people could own property, the government would have a limited role, and that we would pay limited taxes. But that otherwise we would have the freedom to exercise the use of our property, both tangible and intangible, to go after our hopes and dreams. And what happens was a great, vibrant middle class. But we see with government, with USAID, the taking, the fleecing, the stealing of our money to be used to push these agendas. While the elites have gotten rich and everybody’s gotten poor, that’s not okay. So things are changing. But one of the things they’ve done is take our property. And if you can’t use your property, if you’re not in charge of your property, then you don’t own your property. Hence, Stand for the Land Kansas. So give us a quick rundown on if this is the first time people have heard you. And then you’ve got some successes that are occurring.
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Oh, we do, Kim, and that keeps me going every day. In the last year, we have worked on growing our small groups in 105 counties. And those small groups are turning into 400 and 500 people that are attending public hearings, public meetings, questioning and calling their elected officials for accountability. And that has been a blessing for me to watch. These people never engaged and they’re finding their footing and the leaders are rising to the top. So that’s a great thing. We have a opportunity here in Kansas, and I’ve been working on this for the last about 60 days with a group of people. And we have a lawsuit heading for the federal court I believe in Johnson County, and it is in front of a Trump-appointed judge. So what this lawsuit will do, it’s a Jackson County property owners have filed a lawsuit. They have a very credible team representing them in this civil action, and it’s suing Janet Yellen, the Treasury Secretary of the United States, along with the environmental protection and a list of them over transferable tax credits and the ignoring of the NEPA requirement for any utility job, even economic development jobs that involve land and the environmental impact is being questioned on this solar project. So these three landowners have invested a lot of money in this civil action. So we decided to intercede with this civil case with an amicus brief. If you’re unfamiliar about amicus briefs, they are briefs that have been put together by other interested parties that are affected. Solar is a very narrow lane, but we know solar is not the only problem. It’s the transmission. It’s the eminent domain. It’s the environmental impact and changing of land use. It’s the impact, the economic impact and changing of a economy of a local community, which impacts small towns, small rural farming towns. So this amicus brief we have worked on and we have the opportunity to demonstrate to the federal judge that this is more than solar. So we traveled to Western Kansas and shot a documentary for Judge Holly Teeter to view so that she can see the devastation of not just the solar and the changing of land use and how everybody has stepped over these environmental impacts. It’s the changing of the economy of small rural towns, the impact of them having to submit more testing, environmental testing to the state, not to impact an environmental impact statement but just to remain say their wastewater treatment is picking up environmental entities like you know certain levels of say air quality or water quality they have to pay for that testing taxpayers will have to pay for that testing and that’s extra on top of these small rural towns and they don’t have the budgets for it so the requirements is really putting a lot of small towns at risk not to be able to meet requirements to maintain their wastewater treatments so virginia just a quick comment i wanted to make here in colorado as many of you know i’m the president of the colorado union of taxpayers it’s all volunteer group and so we’re watching legislation
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And we have over 570 bills and resolutions that have been proposed here in Colorado, and we’re not done until May 6th. But there is a piece of legislation to fast-track. quote unquote, renewable, the permitting of renewable projects here in Colorado. And you can see they’re playing long ball on all this stuff. And with 570 pieces of legislation, it’s very difficult for everyday people to really watch what’s happening. But I just want to let you know that they’re doubling down over here in Colorado.
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Well, please send me that information on that bill. if you really think about the the entire ball of wax for the united states each state will pass legislation that is very similar to other states and kansas is leading in this fast track renewable and the fast track of transmission and working it so that the taxpayers unknowingly are paying for that uh that those projects especially battery storage and they’re doing it through tax credits they’re doing it through uh taking money from the state general fund and putting it into slush funds that are very hard to track and so yes legislation has been very lackluster this session even giving tax credits to data centers and
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So you’re saying they’re trying to get tax credits to data centers? Tax credits to data centers?
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They have given tax credits. The federal government has actually issued transferable credits. Part of the civil suit, this civil suit that’s hitting the federal court, is that these We have never in this country had transferable tax credits. And what those are now, you can transfer those to a third party and liquidate them for cash. And that cash is not taxable as income. Oh, man. Okay. And so you see how big this case is. And that is why we entered into an amicus brief. Because when this judge renders her decision, It could throw the jake break on all of this green energy. It could call into question all these recurring tax credits that are hooked to our land that we don’t even know, that are hooked to property that property owners have no idea their land has been entered into these tax credit areas.
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OK, so. OK, so, Virginia, let’s go to break. And then my next question, because I had I had teased the NITC transmission lines and wanted. I just have a question on whether or not that these tax credits, how that affects that. So I’m talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. and doing amazing work. Check out our website, StandForTheLandKansas.com. All these discussions are so important because of all of our great sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is Lorne Levy. So for everything mortgages, you want to be sure that you reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something that’s a good idea. Excuse me, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Center for American Values website. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.org. They are located in Pueblo, Colorado. They’ve got a great event coming up on, I think it’s the 16th of April, and on values presentation by Norma Donlon, who is the gold star wife of Roger Donlon, who recently passed on. He was the first Vietnam veteran veteran to be awarded the Medal of Honor. And so it’s going to be a great presentation down at the center in Pueblo. The center is non-political, non-partisan. It is focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Virginia Mock is on the line with me. And check out the website, standforthelandkansas.com. Virginia, a question I wanted to know, you mentioned these transferable tax credits that the entities don’t have to pay taxes on. How does that match up with this other discussion we’ve had in the past regarding NITC, the National Interest Electric Transmission Corridors? How does that match up with that?
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So the NITC has lost a little bit of steam because… funding. These lines, some of these, say the Greenbelt line, that’s going to carry the power equal to three nuclear plants. It’s astounding. Even when you say that to a professional electrical engineer who has helped me do calculations through this process, he’s blown away. Three nuclear plants, the power to be on one line and that’s direct current. So the grain belt was part of a Nipsey line. And we have some heroes in Washington. Senator Josh Hawley has been a warrior for us. And now he is calling for the Department of Energy to pull back the $4.9 billion loan for the construction of the grain belt. Now the grain belt has been canceled in Illinois This line is like 700 and some miles between Kansas and Missouri. It cuts our states in half. And so Senator Josh Hawley has called for the pullback of that $4.9 billion in loans to build the Greenbelt. Now, as for the NISI lines, They have pulled down all those niche lines because of the process and the environmental impact statement, the same principle that is being applied in the civil suit in Kansas, because there has been no environmental impact done. So environmental impacts take years to do, especially the amount of area that they’re trying to cover. Now you do have one coming up from New Mexico and the South, uh, Southeast quarter, uh, Colorado, but it is slowed down because of the funding. Uh, so that’s some good news. I believe you have a Congressman Babart, uh, in that area, Boebert, and she, uh, came to Kansas and she is working with some of our people that are working on the Greenbelt. So that’s another plus. she is very aware. And so if we can get the Department of Energy and all of this money that has just been flying in the air for whatever and whoever, it’s amazing how this has really kind of slowed the wheels. And counties now are rising up in Kansas asking for help to fight these green energy companies. Things are every day change and they are moving fast. I think this lawsuit will bring it all to a head. This is a lawsuit that could set a precedence across the state and it could head to the Supreme Court, giving Senator Josh Hawley and other people that bring in a little bit more clout than a state alone. They could intercede in this if it heads to the Supreme Court. And this ruling would be something that impacts every state, every county, at least give us some tools to battle back. And as for our President Trump, he has done all he can to call back the money that was left there, but as you would have the other side, has really been working overtime, trying to hide the money from Doge, try to hide the money from the departments through these NGOs. And the NGOs are like a spider web. So that is kind of where we’re at. But President Trump is doing small things to bring down, push his executive order authority as far as it can go to at least slow it down if not get rid of the money for one reason or the other. So he has a very difficult, let’s say, pathway to navigate. And drill, baby, drill. That’s the smart thing to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, absolutely. And Virginia, what you are doing with Stand for the Land Kansas and getting this lawsuit filed is really, really important. And so I know that the legal system moves slowly. Any kind of time frames on all of this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes. The civil suit hits the court in April. We will file our amicus briefs. right before that hearing, so it will be viewed by the judge. We’re working on the finals of the production, the documentary, And it’ll be a very short five-minute clip, but it’s very impactful to get people’s stories in front of the judge to show her the harm that it is doing to a lot of citizens and a lot of property owners. And once that video is done, I will share that with you. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Will that be at Stanford Land in Kansas as well?
SPEAKER 18 :
We hope it will. You know, we hope we can get it online, but we would like the judge to be at first. There may be some legal legality there, but we’ll work through that. But I think it’s impactful that we all have stories, good, bad, or indifferent. But when it comes to the story of our land, that is our pride, and that is what secures our freedom every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, Virginia Maka, we’ve got a minute left. And you never really had thought that this was what you were going to do. You’re, I think, an engineer by trade, but you’ve stepped forward because you realize this is so important for the American idea. Your final thought.
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When you hit a point of life where you’re looking at, what am I going to leave behind? What is worth leaving behind? and what is worth taking on. And any time that you can stand up for freedom, I believe that that is not only all of our legacies, but it’s what we hand to our children in the generations to come. So it’s very important to have a voice. And you, Kim, have been a voice, an outlet for those voices. And we should have more of you. We should have more Kins in this world. That’s what I think.
SPEAKER 08 :
Virginia Maka, thank you so much. Let’s stay in touch. Again, that website is StandForTheLandKansas.com. Keep up the great work. We’ll have you back on soon.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you so much. And everybody in Colorado, you have a great day.
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Western Kansas, I’ll see you soon. Love it. And our quote for the end of the show, I thought this was great, by Isaac Newton. He said, “‘Tact’ is the art of making a point without making an enemy.” So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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We sure are. Yeah, I think I read something the other day. This estate farm, we handled 400 hail claims last year all over the U.S. And Colorado is probably at the top of the list between us and Texas, Kansas. Lots of hail. Lots of hail.
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Well, so not just 400 clients.
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What does that mean, 400 different storms? Storms, 400 different storms, reported hail storms. Yeah, and some of them are, you know, gigantic and others are pretty small. So we’re talking about all hail.
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Okay. Okay. Well, since Colorado is where we’re located and we seem to get these hail storms, Roof, Is there any additional things that people should think about?
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You know, there is something that came out recently that has been problematic in terms of claims over the last, throughout my career. So here’s what goes on. Let’s say a hailstorm hits your roof. And it damages the south side of the roof. And there’s no damage to the north side of the roof. So the adjuster comes out and says, we’re going to pay for what was damaged. And so you could have half a roof, basically, which means that if you want to replace a whole roof, you’re responsible for the other half on your own, your own dollars. People aren’t happy about that because they want everything to match, and I can understand that. So State Farm came out with an endorsement that you could purchase that would actually replace that side of the roof that was not damaged. You have to do that at renewal. You can’t do it. So if you renew and… March, you missed it. If you renew in May, I’d put it on, for example, or April. Because hail season usually runs from April through early October. July is probably one of the worst months. So that endorsement is probably maybe $160 a year. You could actually help yourself a lot by having that endorsement on. So we’re talking about maybe $15 a month more in your premiums. So if you’re ever put in that position, you could have some coverage. An average roof today is probably between 15 and 20, 25,000. And one thing I would caution you, once a hailstorm hits your area, please do not answer the door and talk to an out-of-state adjuster. We have a list of contractors that we have used for years that are reputable, that will take care of you, and they’re accountable for to their own ethics, but they’re also accountable to us, State Farm Roger Mangan. If we recommended one, two or three roofers and you choose one of those three and you have a problem with them and they’re not responding, you can always call our office and we will then call them to take care of any issues that are outstanding. Give you a quick example. I had insured that, got a check from State Farm on a hail loss up in Arvada, and the adjuster missed a lot, okay? And by the way, these adjusters, when a catastrophic loss occurs, that’s 500 claims or more, defined as 500 claims or more, then you get an adjuster from out of state, they come in and they adjust. A lot of them won’t even go on the roof anymore, they’ll use a drone, or they’ll use some other a visual inspection, and they’ll miss things. Well, in this case, it was about $5,000 of items missed in this claim. The insured called me and said, hey, how come they didn’t have this or this or that in the estimate? I said, well, let me give them a call, find out what’s going on. We did and sent another adjuster on a re-inspection, and the insured ended up with about $4,000 more on the claim. So those adjusters, by the way, are on rotation, 90-day rotation when they come in. So at the end of 90 days, the adjuster you had, they’re gone. So State Farm is very good at keeping good notes. And again, it is troublesome. I mean, we even have a challenge as an agency getting our adjusters to have a conversation with us about details. So I can’t imagine if you had a company that didn’t have an agent, you’re out there on your own. So I would advocate a direct writer. to have your insurance with. Could be State Farm, Farmers, American Family. They’re all out there and they’re all good. Your insurance really is as good as your agent. Let me put it that way.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I’m really pleased to have on the line with me. She was on the show a few weeks ago. And that is Savannah Crossfield. And she is a documentary maker, filmmaker. She’s with Lucidity Pictures. And she has a documentary, Cradled in Glass. That is their project. And very important regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. Savannah Crossfield, welcome to the show. Thank you. Good to be here. So Savannah, I wanted to get into more in-depth questions regarding IVF, in vitro fertilization. I’ve looked at it or heard about it. I thought, oh my gosh, what a miracle. People that I know that have wanted to be parents have used IVF successfully and have children that they love and they cherish. And I love that. But there’s other things to consider, yes? Yes, definitely. So let’s talk about that. Okay. So where should we start on this?
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Okay. So I think that when most people, of course, like you said, hear about in vitro fertilization, if they haven’t themselves walked through it and had to research it themselves, think of it, like you said, as this miracle solution to infertility, this way that parents or intended parents, people who want to be parents, who have infertility can have children. And of course, we all love children, whether you’re pro-life, pro-choice, from any culture, you love children and you want parents who desperately want children to be able to have that dream. But the issue that we see and that we want to look into in this series is that there is such a high risk to each individual human life that is created through IVF that we need to look more into whether or not the risk to human life is worth the few that make it through the entire process. And so the statistic that you can look to is that seven to eight percent of those created through IVF are born alive. And there’s a number of factors that go into that. But at base, you can look at that a petri dish, which is where these very small human lives, these little embryos, are created in and grown out to for about six to eight days before, if they’re intended to be implanted, then they would be implanted into the mother. But during that six to eight day period, there’s a very high level of embryo attrition, which means that The number of embryos that don’t make it through all of that growth to the sixth day is incredibly high. We see it to be around about half, but it depends on a lot of different factors, including the age of the mother or egg donor, whoever that the eggs are from. Also, the quality of the sperm and a couple of different factors. that risk is always very significant regardless of the quality of the eggs and the quality of sperm. And so that goes mainly into the reason why we have such low birth rates from embryos created through IVF. But a couple of other things that we look at are sex selection and genetic screening. And so if parents opt in to do genetic screening on their embryos, they’re told that that would increase the success rate of a pregnancy because you’re looking at each embryo and testing its quality, quote, unquote, viability, and you’re looking at whether a given embryo potentially has Down syndrome or Turner syndrome or… some other kind of genetically related genetic disorder that could be passed down from the parents. And you can also, when you do genetic screening, see the chromosomes and you can tell whether an embryo is a male or female. And so parents can also be given the option of choosing whether or not they want to implant a female embryo or a male embryo. And so this obviously decreases birth rates because you are discarding embryos that are not chosen to be implanted. And then when you look at the rates of embryos that survive implementation, that’s also around about 35%, depending on health of the mother, health of the embryo, many factors. But that is the highest that we have seen it, 35 to 40%. And so that also decreases that success rate. And so we are looking at the number of surplus embryos, is what they’re called, when you have embryos that you don’t implant right away. You implant about one or two embryos nowadays. And if you have extra embryos that you aren’t implanting in that cycle in this Petri dish at their sixth to eighth day, then you would be freezing those embryos if you wanted to save them for successive pregnancies, or if you wanted to put them up for adoption, there’s embryo donation, that’s what it is called, that other families could adopt those embryos and then try to have those embryos and have pregnancy and try to implant them. Or you could also donate your remaining embryos to scientific research. And that is where you’re getting stem cell research, other gene disease modeling, things like that, that we’re doing in research labs. So yeah, obviously lots of different ethical questions of where all of these different embryos are going and if they’re surviving the process at all.
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So Savannah Crossfield with Lucidity Pictures, what happens in the petri dish with the sperm and the egg, that is happening in the petri dish, which is what would normally happen during human intercourse, sexual intercourse, yes? Or right after, yeah. Okay, okay. And then the six to eight days, we’ll see, I guess is the correct term, whether or not it would take intercourse. Savannah, why are you interested in this? Why does this matter to you?
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Sure. So I have been interested in issues, pro-life issues regarding those who have not been born for a very long time. And I only knew about the abortion issue, of course. Most people do. And so I had been looking into that, researching that, and that had been the thing that I was trying to help with the pain. And then I got married at 19, got married young, and then immediately after got pregnant with my son. And so I am fertile and fertile. I have not in any way had to use IVF, thankfully. And when I had my son, I had a perfectly healthy, natural pregnancy. And at birth, everything went well. And then I saw after I had him on social media somewhere that there is a statistic, and I verified it and we have it as part of our series, that there are 1.5 million at least frozen embryos in the United States. And I did not realize why they were there, why they were frozen, if they were up for adoption or if they were abandoned or what was happening or how they even got there in the first place. I felt that I needed to do something about the number of embryos that I believe in science shows are very, very early, very young humans that, you know, why this is the case. And so at first I looked into embryo adoption and to build our family that way. And so I wanted to do that. And then as I was trying to look into that process, I got pregnant with my daughter, naturally. And so, of course, obviously I couldn’t adopt an embryo because my uterus was occupied. You were busy. Right, exactly. So I was thinking, okay, well, next baby, our third baby, will be an adopted embryo. And then I had my daughter prematurely, and we had an emergency C-section, and it was a rather traumatic birth. And so I’m now no longer a good candidate to do that very high risk. And IVF is just going to put pregnancies at a higher risk statistically in general. So not a good candidate for that anymore. But my background is in filmmaking and broadcast journalism. And I felt that there just wasn’t anything for the public out there, for the lay person in the movie or documentary or film space that people could consume and truly understand this really important topic. And of course, it’s in such a critical time for us to understand what goes on in IVF, how many embryos are frozen out there, what can we do, what should we be looking at as alternative methods to handle infertility and different treatments that make us healthier and allow us to naturally conceive. And it’s such a critical time because Of course, this past presidential debate in the presidential election, the issue of IVF was brought up, and it was the very first time that we were talking about it as its national issue. And then, of course, a few weeks ago, a month or so, President Trump signed an executive order looking to get policy recommendations on how to make IVF more accessible and affordable for Americans when most Americans don’t really know the science of IVF and what we need to be considering and what issues will increase necessarily if we’re increasing the number of IVF procedures we’re doing in this country. So, yeah, very important.
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Yeah, okay. So, again, I have friends that have used IVF. They have children. They wanted children. They love their children. And I see that blessing. I have to say the title of your documentary, Cradled in Glass. I was at church the other day, and there’s children everywhere and pregnant moms. And I love that. And I… I do think about little ones that are frozen, that are cradled in glass someplace. And it does stop me in my tracks. And then this idea of selection. of genetic selection, sex selection, that can start to be a really dark road to go down. You can see some positives, but that could be a very dark road to go down. For example, Down syndrome kids. I know that Down kids, there’s certainly challenges there. with that, but they’re also beautifully, wonderfully made and precious. And so the idea to select to not have, and I guess that happens through abortion as well. Gosh, these are ethical questions that get you at the gut, I think, Savannah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And the other thing is, like we said, in most cases, In IVF cycles, and of course, there can be exceptions, and when there are, that is amazing and beautiful. But in most cases, there are embryos that were created that did not make it in a given cycle. So you’re looking at these beautiful children, and every single life is as valuable as another. And that is exactly why we’re looking into this, because they probably had siblings that didn’t make it. The wording in the IVF history or in these fertility clinics, when the doctors are talking to these couples that have been hurting and really psychologically have been struggling with the fact that they have had trouble naturally conceiving a child because they want one, and the language that is used to describe the processes to these parents is either scientifically iffy, not entirely scientifically accurate all the time. And then also can be very confusing. It’s kind of like in the abortion industry when a doctor would tell you this is fetal tissue or just cells or tissue here and there, or using the word fetus or embryo. These terms can be very confusing to parents and they might not fully realize what is happening during these cycles. And ASRM, the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, which is the key board in this issue, has published information explaining that there are so many parents who have frozen embryos, have more than they intended to have in their family. They feel that they have finished building their family. They don’t want any more children to raise. But they feel this ethical imbalance this ethical struggle, this dilemma on what to do with their embryos that they still have remainingly frozen, and often they feel that these are their frozen children, and they don’t want to put them up for adoption because they don’t like the idea of another family raising their children, and they don’t want to discard them because they don’t want to discard their children, but they also don’t want to have them themselves, and that is one of the reasons why we have just so many frozen embryos in the u.s right now that will continue to be on ice relatively indefinitely many of them and then eventually they you know won’t make it through that um for a number of reasons but that’s you know just one of the things that we have to consider is a lot of parents don’t really realize what’s going on or that they’ll have so many left over as a possibility and no one can control what numbers you know you’ll end up with if you fertilize as many as possible And then you could be in this problem that we have so many Americans facing right now.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And as you know, I dearly love the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they’re doing. It’s important to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for us, for our freedom. And there’s a great fun way that you can… Support the foundation, and that is with their second annual Marine Memorial Golf Tournament, May 15th, at The Ridge at Castle Pines North. And you can register by going to their website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, which you can support the foundation, play a great round of golf. meet some new people, and play a golf course you might not play very often. And so go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to sign up for that. On the line with me is Savannah Crossfield. She is a filmmaker with Lucidity Pictures. And we’re talking about IVF, in vitro fertilization. President Trump… issued an executive order regarding IVF, wanting to make it accessible and affordable. I guess the first question on affordable, does that mean that everybody else will pay for that, Savannah Crossfield?
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Right, exactly. That’s something that we need to look at is, of course, when the idea is floated that something will be more affordable, we have to look at how is that going to be the case. And so in this situation, the government is looking into making IVF more affordable through having either subsidies toward that issue, so that’d be taxpayer dollars, or through medical insurance companies and requiring those companies to cover IVF treatments. And so we look at the cost of IVF There’s a study from California that shows that the average live birth from IVF costs $61,000. And that is because you’re not guaranteed to have a live birth every IVF cycle. And each IVF cycle, you know, tens of thousands of dollars, $10,000, $15,000 around there. And there are a lot of additional added features or services that you might want to have when you do an IVF cycle, such as the genetic testing we talked about or freezing. There’s a cost associated, an ongoing cost, with having embryos frozen in cryoscorage. And so the average amount of cycles that a parent goes through to have one live birth is two to three. And so if you want to build your family or multiple children, not just one live birth, you’re going to go back to IVF and do more cycles. If you have remaining embryos, then you can thaw some of those and then attempt to implant those at successive cycles. Or you might, if you don’t have remaining embryos, you might have to go back and go through the process again with fertilization And if there are issues with the mother’s eggs or with the father’s sperm, then you may need to get donor eggs and sperm. And if you have an issue with the mother’s uterus or her reproductive system in carrying the baby, then she might have to look into a surrogate. And all of those are incredibly expensive. And so what we look at in our series is, is there an alternative for qualifying individuals as a fertility treatment but is number one, a lot more cost effective, a lot less expensive, and then also healthier and doesn’t allow, you know, necessitate all these ethical questions because the goal would be natural conception. And so we look at this concept called restorative reproductive medicine. It’s a field of medicine that looks to the root of one’s infertility, whether that be a female issue or a male issue. And then treating that through various different methods because infertility is, you know, such an incredibly complex issue. So we look at hormones. We’ll look at do you have endometriosis or a physical structural issue that we need to correct with surgery? Or is this, you know, a timing issue? We just really need to lock down when your cycle is so that we can time things. intercourse for natural conception there’s a lot of things it could be dietary there’s just so many things that go into one’s fertility that this form of medicine seeks to treat and really when you look at it IVF in vitro fertilization is a workaround to infertility we’re not actually treating the root cause of your infertility but instead we are you know creating a embryos outside of the womb and trying to implant them into a woman that might not be healthy. And so if instead we have a policy that supports restorative reproductive medicine and makes that more affordable, also there’s a study that shows that with a successful treatment, a successfully treated individual, they can now naturally conceive cost $3,000 to $5,000. And if you want to compare that to one live birth from in vitro fertilization, that was $61,000. So, of course, it would be way more effective as a government policy to support with either taxpayer dollars or with medical insurance dollars, restorative reproductive medicine, over IVF. And I know I mentioned that there are some individuals where, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. If you’ve had a hysterectomy, you don’t have a uterus, or if there are no sperm in the male’s testes, and we can’t fix that through surgery, then, of course, restorative reproductive medicine will not work. But in most, the vast majority of individuals, restorative reproductive medicine is a potential option.
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So that is certainly a solution because of these ethical questions. So we as human beings, we can have something that can be very good, but it can also be used in a non-ethical way. And so you mentioned scientific research, right? Right. So the fertilization occurs in a Petri dish. There are six to eight days to see whether or not that fertilization takes.
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It could take immediately. It’s just you have to grow the embryo. The embryo is the embryo from the moment of fertilization, which takes less than a nanosecond. But you want to grow the embryo out to what’s known as a blastocyst stage, which is six to eight day. It has about 100 cells. And that is when you would either freeze it or try to implant it, or you could do the scientific research at that point. You have to make some decision on what to do with the embryo, because the embryo can’t survive in the dish for all that long. So, yes. Okay, got it.
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Thank you for the clarification on that. So people could determine whether or not they want a boy or a girl. They could… in some fertility clinics not all do it but most most do okay do genetic screening to determine if there might be some challenges with the embryo but you also mentioned scientific research now they’re not going to just do scientific research on an embryo so in essence or i don’t think they would you’re i’m going to ask you the question So does that mean that that embryo would be planted? Would they ultimately be growing humans for scientific research?
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Right. So we want to look into this. So an embryo at the sixth to eighth day, which is the blastocyst stage, we’ve got about 100 cells in this embryo. Let’s say they’re donated to scientific research. And so a research lab would do a number of things with that embryo, one of which, one of the most common things that an embryo donated to scientific research could have done is taking the stem cells, the embryonic stem cells, out of this embryo, growing them out in petri dishes in their differentiated cell types. I want to stress that an embryo is an incredibly complex organism, human organism, and it has differentiated cell types. Stem cells, embryonic stem cells, are just the precursor cells to those that would develop into adult cells. And so we see all that differentiation and complexity in these embryos. And so you would grow out the differentiated cell types, so it’s neurological cells, muscle cells, etc., And then you can use those cells to do disease modeling, try to develop vaccines. There’s a number of different things you can try to do with those. But the key thing that I want to stress is that we have not been able to, we go into it the series, but we’ll go too, too much into the complex science here. but we have not been able to make any medical advancements with embryonic stem cells. We have with adult stem cells, but not with embryonic stem cells. And there’s a number of reasons for that, one of which is that they’re incredibly chaotic and don’t really merge very well with adult cells. And we can’t control them and we can’t reproduce them as easily, but regardless. When you take embryonic stem cells out of an embryo, it necessarily kills the embryo. And so you can grow out these stem cells, multiply them for decades, theoretically. And they’ve done this with, you know, aborted babies’ cells as well. He’s growing them out, and those are called cell lines. And it’s the face of aborted fetuses. That would be fetal cell lines. you can use those cell lines to get vaccines and do other research with those. And so that’s, yeah, one of the main things that we’re looking at. But then there’s also a lot of cutting edge technology, such as CRISPR and germline editing, which is taking the genes in these cells from embryonic cells that are either donated or there are embryos that are created in labs through donor gametes for the purposes of scientific experimentation. They will never be adopted. They will never be gestated. And so in either way that you procure those embryos, you can take those cells and then you edit some genes to CRISPR. And they’ve tried to be doing this to create ways that you can potentially cure cancer, all of these different genetic issues they want to be able to fix, of course. In order to try to make medical advancements, you need to do research, and that is where the justification for this research on human embryos comes into play. Yeah, please go.
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Yeah, Savannah Crossfield. Let’s go to break. I’ve got a few more questions, and then people can text me at 720-605-0647. Or if you have a question for Savannah, that number is 303-477-5600. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. And if you’ve been injured, be sure to reach out to John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Check out the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is located in Pueblo. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there were four living Medal of Honor recipients that lived at the same time there. The center is co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, for actions he took during the Vietnam War and Brad Padula. an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker, and they’re doing all kinds of great things. There will be a wonderful On Values event on the 16th of April. Check all that out at AmericanValuesCenter.org. The center is nonpartisan, nonpolitical, focusing on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. Talking with Savannah Crossfield. If you have a question for her, 303-477-5600. The text line is 720-605-0647. And Savannah, this in vitro fertilization, IVF, it is a miracle. It certainly has been used for families that have wanted children and could not have children. It’s been that blessing. But there’s this other side, these ethical questions. And so I think the overriding question is, we as humans, how do we answer this ethical question? Now, I know that having them frozen and using them for scientific research, there will be those that say, well, these embryos don’t have a heartbeat, so they’re not a human yet. What would you say to that, Savannah Crossfield?
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Right, of course. I would say that there has been Science has shown since the beginning of embryology since we’ve been able to study life and this very then the very beginning stages, we have proven that an embryo is a genetically unique.
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organism of course the human organism so so question just a quick question every one of those embryos same sperm same egg is and i think i know the answer i know this is set up but i think it’s important to to confirm that but each of them are genetically different yes and just as because they are siblings are genetically different even though they have the same genetic parents
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And so, like I also talked about, embryos are incredibly complex. They’re not just a cluster of basic, simple cells. They’re dividing at an incredible rate and differentiating their different cell types, cells like neurologically embryonic precursor cells, embryonic cells, and skin cells, and all these different types. And the other thing that is important to note is that every single adult or baby that’s been born, et cetera, all of them were once an embryo. And it’s simply, and scientific textbooks will explain this, and if you pull, there’s a poll that pulled scientists all around the world from different cultures, ideologies, religions, et cetera, and 95% of them agree that A human life starts at the moment of conception or the moment of fertilization, which is less than a nanosecond long, an instant. And then from that moment, you have a genetically unique individual human being that is given the right environment, just as you or I are given the right environment to continue to develop and live. These embryos will continue to develop and live And if the odds of their survival are on their side, then they will continue to develop and then eventually become an adult, just as any other individual on their given stage of development would. And so that is one of the key reasons that we actually look into the ethics of in vitro fertilization. If each embryo or just a sperm or an egg not just a cell, not a genetically unique individual, just cells of the mom, cells of the dad, then we would not be looking into the ethics of this procedure because we wouldn’t be talking about individual human blood.
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So is the answer that we stop IVF?
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Well, so our series seeks just to talk about all of the ethical issues that we need to, as a society, look at since we are doing all of these to, of course, non-consenting, individual, unique humans. But I think that because we cannot separate the extreme risk of loss of life to each individual human life and each individual embryo then it’s incredibly difficult, especially in the US with the lack of regulation we have on the number of embryos that you can create any given IVF cycle. Other countries have plenty of regulations. In France, you can make very few. But in the US, you can make as many as biologically possible, as many eggs that will fertilize that you have. And that just means that we’re going to have an incredibly high loss of life, high embryo attrition rates. And it’s really, really important to consider as a personal choice for parents who are in the situation where they’re considering IVF. Much better, of course, to be informed rather than to go into it blind. And that’s what we really want to address is being informed as parents make these decisions for your children for the next generation.
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Boy, that is so important. And Savannah Crossfield, first of all, you can find this cradled in glass at luciditypictures.com. And, of course, going to Psalm 139, 1318, for you created my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully. and wonderfully made. I think that is so important that each human being understand that they are unique, they are precious, they’re treasured, and they are wonderfully and fearfully made. Your final thoughts, Savannah, we’ve got a minute.
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Yeah, so I think that We would definitely appreciate anyone who is interested in learning more about this topic and to follow what we’re doing to go to luciditypictures.com. So that’s L-U-C-I-D-I-T-Y pictures.com. We have a blog that comes out with a post every week. about behind the scenes, about production, where we’re going when we’re traveling across the U.S., and who we’re interviewing, and all these different interviews that we’re doing with experts in the field, people from all different perspectives, and then, of course, people who themselves have gone through IVF or related issues. And so we would love you to sign up for our email list and to monitor what we’re doing and support us. And you can reach out to me with any questions at scrossfields at luciditypictures.com. So that’s scrossfields at luciditypictures.com.
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Savannah Crossfield, thank you so much for sharing all this with us. And luciditypictures.com. Let’s stay in touch. OK, bye bye. And our quote for the end of the show is from Isaac Newton, who said this tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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