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In this episode of The Kim Munson Show, listeners are invited to explore the intricate details of government intervention in daily life and the Fourth Amendment challenges posed by new surveillance measures. With a strong emphasis on the importance of maintaining individual freedoms, Kim and her guests sift through the complex dynamics of current legislative endeavors, aiming to educate and empower citizens to take a stand for their rights. Discover how these developments impact our privacy and what it means for future governance.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment, and you are in Colorado for a reason. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Easter Monday to you, Producer Joe.
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Happy Easter Monday to you as well, Kim.
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Did you have a good Easter? I did.
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It was nice. I just went to the parents’ house, had a good dinner, and, you know, played some game. We played this game called Tapple. It was a lot of fun. It’s just a quick little word game where everybody’s kind of round-robinning words.
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Okay. Any words that we should use for word of the day? You have to think about it.
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No, it’s more based off a category. So, like, the category is movies, so then you’re trying to use each letter that’s not up. You’re trying to pick a letter and be like, oh, shoot, now I can’t even think of a movie. Okay.
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Well, good. I had a great Easter as well. And the Easter service was absolutely fabulous. And at my little church, they were going to have 16 baptisms. So at the service that I was at, they had six baptisms. It was absolutely precious. And I can’t believe we’re through Easter and we had pre-recorded four of the five days of last week. And I heard from many of you, you really appreciated the focus on those different subjects. But we’re back in the saddle and there is a lot going on. So fasten your seatbelts because we are on it. And so several things. Check out the website. That is kimmunson.com. And we had two excellent essays that we published yesterday, one by Pam Long regarding RFK Jr.’ ‘s first days. And so check that out. And then Alicia Garcia, a new sponsor with the Second Syndicate, also did an excellent piece regarding this Senate Bill 003. And so the title on that is License to Disarm the Tyranny of Senate Bill 25003. And I would really recommend that you check that out. She’s done a really super job on that as well. And just great. So check all that out over at the website. And then while you’re there, make sure that you’ve signed up for our weekly newsletter that goes out on Sundays. and you can email me at kim kimmunson.com the text line and i want to hear from you is 720-605-0647 i thank all of you who support us and the show comes to you uh uh six to eight a.m monday through friday first hour is rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon second hour 10 to 11 at night and that’s on all klz 560 platforms which is klz 560 am klz 100.7 fm the klz website and the klz app and as you know on the show we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and we focus on the issues on this show we’ll talk about the people that are involved in those issues but we really try to stay out of all the personality fighting on everything so Let’s see. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And it empowers us to change our own personal climate. It was a little chilly on Friday with the snow, and it was really nice to have warm weather. I met some friends for lunch, and nice to have a warm restaurant to go to as well. We take all of those things for granted. Our word of the day is felicitous, and it’s spelled F-E-L-L, excuse me, let’s start over, F-E-L-I-C-I-T-O-U-S, and it could be, number one, admirably suited, number Number two, exhibiting an agreeably appropriate manner or style. Or three, marked by happiness or good fortune. And I would say that probably this next two weeks down at the state legislature, the radical activist extreme Democrats will not be felicitous at all to either the Republicans or to the people who are concerned about a number of the things that are going to be rammed through these last two weeks. And do check out the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. That website is coloradotaxpayer.org. Join us. We send out an email each Monday during the legislative session with positions on a variety of different bills. And just to give you a quick report from Bill Track 50, as of this morning, there were 703 bills that have been proposed down at the state house and every one of those i think are supposed to have a hearing so it’s going to be pretty interesting to see what the last two weeks look like the colorado union of taxpayers has taken positions on 238 of those bills So if you want to be informed, be sure and join us. And I did want to say thank you to this group. And that is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. These are all volunteers that are working diligently to keep you informed and to take positions with these legislators and the governor on many of these different bills. And again, you can join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. Our quote of the day is from founding father Benjamin Franklin. And he said this. He said, And I love that by Benjamin Franklin. And while we were off last week, we were not sitting around eating bonbons and twiddling our thumbs, working diligently. First of all, we’ve got to be on the offense, and we are on the offense here at the Kim Munson Show with working with all of you. and the good Lord to raise the money for the two lawsuits that we have in place right now. One is with United Sovereign Americans, and the basis of that lawsuit is that Colorado – and this is based on analysis they did after the 2022 election – that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress on elections. And so that lawsuit is filed. The other is with Peter Berninger over at Wisconsin Center for Election Justice. And he used his technology to go through voter rolls here in Colorado and ended up because we were on a really focused time frame because of what is called NIVRA, the National Voting Rights Act, that we had to be very focused. And ultimately, he ran our analysis of certain voters as of Election Day, and 14,500 people that should not have gotten ballots voted. And so we’ve got that lawsuit in place, and those are going to complement, I think, President Trump’s executive order significantly. So then we fast forward to Holly Kaysen and the lawsuit with her, Sean Smith, and Ash Epp. They were the defendants against MeFamilia Vota, the NAACP, and the League of Women Voters. And they won their case, but they—it’s a long story, but the Christiansburg Standard— is a court case that says even if you are sued by NGOs and you lose, NGOs don’t have to pay your legal fees, which that means these NGOs can do just about anything they want over there on the legal side. And so they’re appealing that, and we needed to raise $60,000 for that. And together… with holly and sean and ash and the good lord we have just about raised all sixty thousand dollars and want to say thank you to all of you on that and then i started another project while we were off and you will know the details on that probably about in about five and a half weeks but that is going to be exciting as well we’ve raised the money for that as well So I want to say thank you to all of you who contributed, and thank you to the good Lord for providing all of those resources. The show comes to you because of our sponsors and all of you. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team wants you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. And their office will respond to your call or text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, give them a call. That number is 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Just came across the wire about three hours ago and Pope Francis passed on. And apparently, I think I saw something. They wheeled him out yesterday for an Easter Sunday greeting. But this morning, he passed on. So I just wanted to make sure that you knew that. Mike Rolick is on the line. He has been watching what’s happening down at the Statehouse. And we’ve got a couple of weeks here, and he has an update for us. He’s really been watching some things regarding, well, one of those is privacy. But let’s find out what’s on his radar. Mike Rolick, welcome to the show.
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Hey, good morning, Kim, and happy late Easter. Hope you’re doing well.
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I am doing well. So two more weeks. I think it’s May 6th that this legislature should be done, although they have put in place, I think, given power to a lot of PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties to do stuff. But what are you concerned about right now, Mike Rolick?
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Well, you know, we’ve talked about the Senate Bill 25011, and that would be the wildfire, the AI wildfire detection components. One of the companies that will be bidding for this kind of work would be Panel AI, but there are others. But the basic concern is the idea that this camera technology is always on, doing the 360-degree panoramic sweep every minute, and then recording that, putting it to a private device, AI, it’s a deep learning AI in the cloud, and then trying to figure out if there is a signal for smoke or not, and then passing it on to relevant authorities. Obviously, the privacy concerns are huge. We talked about them today. Sorry, tomorrow it’s up in the Appropriations Committee. We did discuss how the gifts, grants, donations aspect of this bill is still in play. And that will be what’s most likely getting discussed tomorrow since there’s an appropriations. They can earmark up to a million dollars this year and then $2 million next year of state funding. But the gifts, grants, and donations could be unlimited. Unbelievable. We’ve already talked about it. It’s terrible. Yep. And it’s interesting because I don’t particularly, you know, this technology is a little frightening to me, but if I were to want to donate, I could, according to one of the legislators that I heard in a testimony session, you could earmark that particular donation for a neighborhood of your choice, which is weird because if you have a state fund, It should be allocated to those most in need, I would think, as opposed to, hey, I’m giving money to a general fund, but can you look over here to my neighborhood? Do you remember when we talked about that?
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Gifts, grants, donations, yeah. Yes. And obviously, I think you and I share that same concern. And what’s CUT’s position now, Debbie? Yeah.
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Cut’s position on this Senate Bill 001 is a no. And this was what we said about it, Colorado Union of Taxpayers. Multiple laws at multiple levels of government already provide more than adequate assurance of equality. Hold on. That’s the wrong one. What was the number, did you say? 011. Oh, 011, it was 11, excuse me. Okay, here we go. Okay, here we go. Apparently, we were a bit mixed on this, but this is what we said. We said, most members oppose this of our board. Our current situation regarding federal and state forest upkeep is dismal. Colorado is ripe for a catastrophic fire in different parts of the state, but benefits are projected with no guarantee of results. We are skeptical of public-private partnerships and of gifts, grants, and donations due to strings attached and the potential for spending on unintended uses. Instead, spend $7 million on clearing underbrush, and those results are guaranteed to reduce wildfires and spread of wildfires. So that’s what Cut had to say about it to Mike.
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Yeah, no, and you brought up a second interesting point is the forest management. There is a discrepancy or a kind of battle going on right now about what proper forest management is, and that’s kind of a side note. But what we’re seeing right now in places like Jefferson County Open Space, they’re literally just cutting trees. down trees as opposed to taking care of the understory and leaving the canopy. And there is a scientific debate now on changes in wind patterns and changes in soil moisture content when you get rid of the actual large trees and the overstory rather than just taking care of the understory and reducing the fuels closer to the ground. I do have friends in forest management out in California and The ones that are getting the best results are leaving the large trees because you’re taking care of the fuels close to the ground, but you’re leaving that canopy and keeping things cool. You have less erosion, less drainage issues over time, and then less wind patterns. And so we’ve actually been looking at wind throw and it changes. We’ve talked to some folks near where these places have been clear cut and where they never were worried. They’re worried now because… Well, the wind patterns change, and now they’re experiencing those 70- and 80-mile-an-hour winds where before they had an amazing windbreak. So that’s an aside. It’s kind of a fuels management issue.
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But that’s pretty interesting as well. But as far as tomorrow goes, some of the real, I would believe, the supportive members, if people do want to reach out, which I hope they do, on the Appropriations Committee, we have Scott Bottoms. Lisa Frizzell and Brandi Bradley. And overall, their voting record has been pretty conservative. I can’t say that for every Republican, but Scott Bottoms, Lisa Brazell, and Brandi Bradley.
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Okay, great. What else do we need to know about? Because, Mike, you’re really doing a good job on this. And I think I need to talk to the cut board about this, but I think we’d probably like to put this on as cut engaged where people could take action on that. So I’m going to talk to Zach about trying to get that up this afternoon. Okay.
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So, okay. Yeah, that would be great. That would be great. One other interesting part about this, and I don’t know if you’re aware of the Institute for Justice, but I really like it. It’s a Fourth Amendment group out in the East Coast. Well, they’re based in D.C., but they have some satellite offices. But they’re taking on a lawsuit in Norfolk, Virginia, against the automatic license plate readers. And there are parallels to this because the automatic license plate readers are always on. They’re always taking information. They’re always putting it into a database as compared to, say, a red light camera that only gets triggered on when someone potentially violates speed. And I just was looking it up. In February of this year, there was a judge that said it can proceed as a constitutional issue. And I’m hopeful that there’s parallels here because, again, these fire detection cameras are always on, always recording, always uploading to a private database. There really is no transparency except for they’re supposed to pixelate a house and blur a face.
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So, Mike, one thing, Greg Morrissey, one of my buddies from Liberty Toastmasters, had sent this email over to me last week. And he said Longmont is installing the census gaso AI driven surveillance cameras right now. He said Firestone HOAs are installing Flock. And he says, are you concerned about where this is going? And these are these license plate readers. I know that Lone Tree is doing something regarding reading licenses over at Park Meadows Mall. And one of the reasons they say is they want to try to find bad guys. But that means that we’ve got government surveilling all of us all the time. And that is a real Fourth Amendment issue.
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Yes, I would agree. And this is a scary time when our thoughts might align with the ACLU thoughts. The ACLU actually was saying New Hampshire would be the model of how to deal with these kind of cameras because New Hampshire, I think, orders the information to be destroyed within three minutes as opposed to up to 30 days when it comes to flock. And they had some other protective measures in place. Because part of what happens is that there’s a lawsuit called Carpenter versus the U.S., and it was about collecting cell phone data for I think it was more than seven days, and that constitutes a search. Because you’re not actually – at that point, you’re not looking for anything specific. You’re just gathering data for the potential. And they also looked at the fact that – a license plate reader in that context could be acting as a state actor because they are working in conjunction with the government to surveil, to pick up the data, the information, and then find a crime that fits to it potentially. See, there’s a difference as well. And I think that’s the parallel to me with Pano AI versus some of the other technologies. Lockheed Martin has a technology that would assess the risk based on weather patterns and based on weather of the day to see where lightning strikes are possible switch on the technology as far as i understand to where those lightning strikes have most probably hit and now you have a need because a lightning can cause a fire, and you’re looking at that specific area with a specific intention as opposed to having these things always on, always surveilling, always picking stuff up, and then looking through the data to find something. So there is, yeah, I mean, there is an interesting connection there. And by the way, flock is pretty much everywhere. I do believe Arvada has flock now. And Flock also can connect to Axum dashboard and body cams for police. Wow. That’s one of their subs that I was reading about. So it is an interesting net that starts coming together.
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Yeah, and one other thing I just wanted to mention is I’m deeply concerned about the surveillance of everyday people. And obviously the founders were as well because we have the Fourth Amendment. Now, it was different kind of stuff there, but privacy is super important here. But if they were really serious about these, you mentioned lightning strikes, and we’re always gonna have lightning strikes, but my gosh, if you get rid of the fuel source, that underbrush, and manage that better, it’s going to, the fires are not going to be, you know, as intense. They’re not going to be as hot. And let’s see some real serious business about that. So, Mike, we could, how about give us one more? We ended up a lot of time on this, but this is important. So what else is on your radar?
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You know, the Senate floor is looking at the HB 1169, which is the quote-unquote Yigbee bill, yes, in God’s backyard. And we talked about that, I think, last week, building unlimited density on church property. But the caveat here that I thought was interesting is the Catholic Charities USA bill, put out a document that says, Catholic Charities USA is committed to addressing America’s critical housing shortage by increasing and preserving affordable housing stock. Providing affordable housing is one of CCUSA’s strategic priorities and a key support area for its membership. And they actually document out here project profiles and best practices for taking church land and building housing. HOMES OR TAKING OLD CHURCHES AND BUILDING HOMES. SO THIS BILL MIGHT HAVE A BIGGER ROOT THAN JUST COLORADO ITSELF. I TOOK A QUICK LOOK AND IT LOOKS LIKE A TREND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I SAW SOME IN CHICAGO, SOME OTHER LOFTS AND OTHER CITIES THAT WERE GETTING Yeah, they’re taking churches and converting them into higher density housing. So I don’t know if you’re aware of that.
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Yes, yes, I am.
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Kind of an nationwide thing.
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Wow. OK, well, Mike, we’re out of time on this. And man, you’re doing my oh my, I should say you are doing amazing work on this. And so let’s let’s get you on again here as we’re getting into the last couple of weeks here of this legislative session. And I think it’s going to be real busy, Mike Rollick.
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I believe so, too. And thank you so much for having me on today.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And last week, as you know, we did a number of prerecords, but I was down at the Center for American Values in Pueblo on Wednesday evening, emceeing an event with Norma Donlon. And she was married to Medal of Honor recipient Roger Donlon. And she didn’t really talk about that much at all because she was born in one of the Japanese internment camps here in America during World War II. And it was an absolutely fascinating story. She’s of Japanese heritage. And you can find that, her presentation, at the Center for American Values website, which is americanvaluescenter.org. And then Drew Dix, co-founder. of the center is now doing a podcast series. And you can find all that at AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. Pleased to have on the line with me, Todd Reed. He is a district captain for District 10 with Convention of States. And there is a rally that is occurring this week. And we wanted to talk about Convention of States, Article 5. So Todd, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim. Great to be here.
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Good to have you. So, Todd, if somebody’s never heard of this Convention of States, explain that to us.
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Well, just two days before the signing of the Constitution, the delegate from the state of Virginia by the name of George Mason realized that there might come a time when the federal government abused its power. And so self-governing people would have to have the ability to change the Constitution.
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Okay. And so they added something into the Constitution, right?
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They did. They added Article 5. And here’s a quote from George Mason. No amendments of the proper kind will ever be obtained by the people should government become oppressive. And George Mason and George Washington were farmers themselves. in neighboring farms. And so they were friends.
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And so fast forward that to where we are now. The federal government is out of control. And I think we’re trying to get it put back in the box it’s supposed to be in. And Article 5 of the Constitution would be important to do that. So tell us what could happen with Article 5.
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Well, the reason that we need article five to help fix Congress air quotes is that Congress will never vote for term limits and Congress will never stay within the federal budget. We’ve elected people and we see how that goes. So to start out 34 state legislatures have to lead the way to pass a resolution through both houses calling for the article five convention. So each of the 50 states would determine the number of delegates to send, and each state would have one vote for each amendment.
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So a couple of things. What amendments are you looking at on trying to push forward?
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Yeah, I got you. Well, the focus of the Article V Convention would be limited to three areas. In each of the state passed resolutions. Term limits for Congress. Fiscal responsibility to stay within the state budget or the federal budget and federal overreach. There is excessive influence on local decisions. And most of us would like Washington to stay out of our lives.
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So, Todd, I have a number of friends that are very involved in the Convention of States Article 5. I push back a bit on the term limits thing. And the reason is, is because I’m concerned if we had term limits for representatives and senators, that that would only increase the power of the bureaucrats involved. in Washington and well also across government for sure but I’m concerned that the bureaucrats who would not be term-limited would have more and more power so ideally the people are supposed to use to exhibit their term limits or push term limits at the ballot box so what would you say to that well um let me give you an example
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of the people that are in Congress. And here’s five from each party. Ed Markey from Massachusetts has been in for 45 years. Al Rogers in Kentucky, 42 years. Chris Smith in New Jersey, 42 years. Chuck Grassley in Iowa, 41 years. Chuck Schumer, New York, 41 years. Ron Hayden, Oregon, 41 years. Mitch McConnell, Kentucky, 47 years. Rose Delaro, Connecticut, 32 years. And Maxine Waters, California, 32 years. Don’t forget Jerry Nadler. New York for 31 years. So there are five from each of the parties. Do we really need people that are entrenched in our government for that long?
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But what about the bureaucrats? Because let’s take this scenario. They know that somebody’s going to be out in, let’s say, 12 years. And so the bureaucrats know that they’re not going to be out in 12 years. So in a way, I’m concerned that that would really make Congress even more irrelevant. Because I think the bureaucrats, we’ve got to do some kind of term limits on them.
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So you’re concerned that it’s going to make the Congress people more, say the lobbyists, have more influence on congressional members?
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I think that they’d have more influence on the bureaucrats behind the congressional members.
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And what bureaucrats are you referring to?
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So those would be over on the administrative state regarding, of course, Trump’s trying to do something about that. But they’re not term limited at all at this time.
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Well, that’s part of the debate that needs to take place.
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Right. Okay. Okay.
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Yeah, it’s a serious thing. The delegates to the convention will have certain guidelines that they have to follow. And under penalty of law, their behavior is restricted. So the discussion with the Convention of States lets Congress and the bureaucrats know that the people are watching and listening. And I think it’s a good thing to challenge the seat of power with the Convention of States.
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Well, I agree. And I think people, I think we need to be challenging the power of not only the federal government, but what we’re seeing here in Colorado as well. But that’s a different discussion. And so before we go to break, explain how, who would select, well, let’s go back to how many states need to approve this? Where are you at right now? Because I know that there’s been a lot of work to try to get these through the state legislatures.
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yeah 34 state legislature state legislatures must pass this resolution and currently we have 19 that have passed it completely through their both houses we have we have another oh it’s 31 total that have either passed or are um considering the legislation in their states So that’s a good number, and the Convention of States is going to happen eventually. It’s just a matter of time now.
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So let’s go to break. I’m talking with Todd Reed, and he is a district captain for District 10 with Convention of States and talking about things to get the federal government really put back in the box that it’s supposed to be in, that the founders… wanted our federal government to be limited. It’s not limited much at all these days. And so we will continue the discussion. But if you are looking at needing a new mortgage, a first mortgage, second mortgage, or a reverse mortgage, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And I am talking with Todd Reed, and he is the district captain for District 10 of Convention of States. And we were having this discussion regarding amendments that could be proposed at a Convention of States. One of those was term limits. And I think Producer Joe, during the break, he had mentioned just the power of bureaucrats but as he was talking about that I realized Todd with the Convention of States if there were term limits then that should put the representatives back on the side of the people instead of the special interests and then they could rein in bureaucrats is that would you say that that’s correct that is the that’s what we’re trying to accomplish because fresh faces in Congress
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have new ideas, and they want to serve the people. When you’re in Congress for as long as some of these people have been in Congress, you cozy up to the lobbyists and it’s business as usual. And we want to see if we can break that and infuse Congress with new ideas and new blood. And once the convention is held, 38 states, all get to vote on the amendments and ratify them before the amendments become law. Okay. There have been three mock conventions. We’ve held two in Williamsburg, Pennsylvania in 2016 and 2023.
SPEAKER 06 :
Was it Williamsburg, Virginia?
SPEAKER 10 :
Williamsburg, yes. And just last year, an Article V experience was held in Comfort, Texas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
So that’s the problem. Well, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so next question is the budget. We are headed to disaster with the deficits and the overspending, and we’ve got to get that under control. So tell us about that next amendment, which would be a balanced budget amendment.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we didn’t consent to $36 trillion of debt. And if it’s constitutional that Congress has to stay within a balanced budget, we wouldn’t lose control of the spending in Congress.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so that makes sense. And then the last one, federal overreach. Tell me a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the federal government tries to influence local decisions with grants and incentives. And this would allow local states to make their own decisions without the influence of Washington trying to coerce the states into making certain kinds of decisions.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and I think that, again, getting the federal government back in its proper role and getting rid of these grants that come from the federal government to try to influence behavior at the state, county, and local level I think would be really important. One of our listeners, Jenny, has said that these grants that come from the federal government to these other jurisdictions is like crack cocaine to municipalities and counties and states. And I think she’s absolutely right. So that makes a lot of sense as well. So Todd Reed, so there’s a rally that’s or there’s an event that’s going to happen this week, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s correct. Two days from now on Wednesday at 11 o’clock, there’s a rally on the steps of the state capitol in Denver. And Mark Meckler, one of the founders of of Convention of States will be a keynote speaker there. But, you know, my challenge to people, if you agree that Article 5 is a good idea, is to Google the Convention of States website and follow the Take Action button, because we have volunteers out all summer long. We’re going to be getting more people to sign the resolution that they agree and the Signature goes directly to your state legislature based on your zip code. There’s 2.5 million people who support Convention States nationwide and 55,000 in Colorado alone.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, and so this rally will be on, you said on Wednesday, again, at the Capitol. Is that going to be on the west side? And again, what was the time on that?
SPEAKER 10 :
11 o’clock on the west side, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And at the website, conventionofstates.com, you have a map that shows the states that have passed a Convention of States resolution. So is there any time limit on these different states that have passed that resolution?
SPEAKER 10 :
Not that I’m aware of. We’ve been working on this for decades. 13 years now to get where we are. We’re going to keep going until, you know, this Convention of States is like Kennedy’s vision of walking on the moon. It’s never been done before. And so if people want to take part in history, it would be a good thing that they can do to get involved. And it doesn’t take much. Just go to the website. sign the petition and send it off to your, it’ll automatically go to your state legislature and let them know that you support a convention of states convention. And you can either watch history being made or you can be part of history.
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So, Todd Reed, we’re in Colorado, and Colorado is not one of the states that looks like anything is happening right now with Convention of States, at least when I look at the map. So bring us up to speed regarding Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Colorado is a little bit behind, but that’s not deterring us. Our motto is to… to overcome. And that’s why there’s a group of veterans that go out to get signatures. And if you see them with the table set up somewhere in a public event, go over and say hello to them. They’re from the Marines, the Navy, the Air Force, and they’re really great guys. They’re trying to
SPEAKER 06 :
get as many people as possible to let our legislators know that the people support a convention of state conference so once this uh the convention would happen and this would you said it had to be 34 states is that right
SPEAKER 18 :
34, correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, and 19 have already approved this. And so there’s 15 more to go. And it looks like it’s passed in one of the two houses in Wyoming, South Dakota, and Kansas. And there’s active legislation in a number of other states. But then once the Convention of States happens, each state would then have a vote regarding those proposals. And then that would go back to the states that 38 states would have to approve those particular amendments to the Constitution. Is that right? Am I getting that correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, that is correct. 38 states would approve amendments. the amendments that come from Convention of States to make it law. So it’s a high bar to amend the Constitution.
SPEAKER 06 :
But Todd, this is really the way it’s supposed to be. When the founders put together, first of all, the vision of America through the Declaration and then the Constitution to keep government limited and that we would settle our differences, not by picking up arms, but in this battle of ideas, which is what we are involved in every day on the show, is to engage in the battle of ideas, which this Article 5, the Constitution, makes America unique in the history of man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. I think that we’re lulled into complacency and don’t think about getting involved in governance. You know, just ask yourself, can you name your state house your senator or house representative? It’s easy today. to save a phone number or an email in your phone and computer and let your legislature know what you’re thinking. And I appreciate your show especially because you talk about the things that Americans and Coloradans should be conversing about regarding policy that impacts us in the short term and the long term.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, in Colorado, I think Todd Reed is at the tip of the spear on all of the crazy stuff that’s getting pushed out here in our country right now. So that’s why, yes, that we do the show. We’ve got about a minute left on this, Todd Reed. And I really appreciate you reaching out. And I know a number of the folks that are really involved in Convention of States, they care deeply about our fellow man. They care deeply about America. So how would you like to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, everybody can be a proponent. You can talk to your coworkers, your bank tellers, grocery clerks, strangers. Just out of the blue, say, hey, do you know how many ways there are to amend the Constitution? And you’ll get a lot of crazy answers. But that gives you an opening to talk about Convention of States. And people that I’ve talked to appreciate the fact that that we can, as people, we the people, have an effect on the Constitution and try and correct Congress as it stands today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and it’s really important that being a citizen of the United States of America, it should not be passive. It’s something that we should be actively involved in because if we’re passive on it, we get to where we are right now, Todd Reed. I really appreciate that. And again, when is this rally?
SPEAKER 10 :
It is Wednesday. It starts at 11 o’clock on the west side of the Capitol building, downtown Denver.
SPEAKER 06 :
It should be a beautiful day in Colorado, so great to get down to the Capitol. Todd Reed, thank you, and thank you for all the great work that you and all those involved with Convention of States is doing, and that website is conventionofstates.com. And our quote for the end of the show is from Andrew Napolitano. He said, “…all presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe.” All presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president’s first job, as Jefferson understood it, is to keep us free. So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team, a great team that I get to work with, and that is Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Easter Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. Yeah. And we’re back in the saddle. You know, I took a little bit of time. Well, you just came in later. You didn’t have to get up at oh, dark 30. And amazingly, I’m so used to getting up at oh, dark 30, even though we weren’t broadcasting. I got up at oh, dark 30, but I got a lot done.
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I do believe that because I was naturally waking up about 4.45 every morning and going, oh, it’s time to go back to sleep because I can’t.
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And we try to do this four times a year. That is the week of Easter, the week of the Fourth of July, the week of Thanksgiving, and the week of Christmas to do prerecords so that the team can have a little bit of a break. And so really appreciate that. Hey, check out the website. That is KimMunson.com. While you’re there, we’ve got two excellent essays that we published this last Sunday in our newsletter. The first one is by Alicia Garcia. She is with the Second Syndicate, which is a new sponsor of the show. And the title of this is License to Disarm, the Tyranny of Senate Bill 25003, which Governor Polis signed that. And so that is really an important piece. And then also a piece by Pam Long where she talks about RFK Jr. and what he’s doing over at the Secretary of Health and Human Services. So super great, great pieces there. So check that out at my website. And while you’re there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. Text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. Our word of the day is felicitous. And it could be, number one, admirably suited or apt. Number two, exhibiting an agreeably appropriate manner or style. Or number three, marked by happiness or good fortune. And Lorne Levy, a great sponsor of the show for everything mortgages, he’s in studio and Karen Levine will be in soon. But I’m going to attempt to use the word of the day, Lorne.
SPEAKER 15 :
I thought you were going to ask me, so I’m glad you’re trying.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is, is that the markets are not very felicitous regarding uncertainty, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, very much so.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the uncertainty of these tariffs is pretty interesting with the markets right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is. And I’m just, you know, I just watch… I was talking to someone the other day over the weekend, I think in When we used to see moves in like the U.S. Treasuries, like the 10-year note, you know, if the 10-year note, let’s just say, for example, went from 425 to 430 in a day, that was a really big day. That was a large move. And now that happens like it’s nothing. Like I’m watching it right now. It just went from 435 to 441 back to 438 in the last like 20 minutes. So there’s like news is just moving it around all the time. So it’s just become a more volatile market.
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So, well, we’ll talk about that in the second and third segment, what that means for people in the mortgage arena as they’re looking at things. So our quote of the day, I think that you’ll like this. Now, you grew up in Boston. And so Boston, well, did you know that April 19th was Patriots Day?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that’s today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yesterday.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they’re actually celebrating it today. The Red Sox play their morning game this year in the marathons today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 15 :
So it’s always on a Monday. They have all the kids today are from school.
SPEAKER 06 :
For Patriots Day? Mm-hmm. I thought I was going to stump you on that because I was stumped on that. Not being from Boston, huh?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. No, there have been. After this, this is the one thing I usually do. I normally go to the office after this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 15 :
But today I’m going to go home because I’ve got to watch the Red Sox.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
They play at 9 a.m.
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So Patriot’s Day is, we had Ben Martin on last week. We pre-recorded it. And the right of Paul Revere, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s poem, although Ben Martin said it wasn’t actually totally accurate, but it was written to really get people excited about America. And then the shot heard around the world was February 19th as well, which was then the battles of Lexington and Concord.
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It’s interesting because you say I’m from Boston. I am. I lived there my whole, you know, youth and into adulthood. And it’s kind of one of those things I can only speak for myself. I don’t know about everybody else, but you kind of get bored with where you live sometimes and you don’t realize what you have. And the history there is amazing. So now when I go back and take my family, it’s like we’re going to do this. We’re going to do this. There’s so much people that go visit. Like, what should I do? I’m like, I can give you a thousand things to do there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s so much history and everything’s so old.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I know. I did the Freedom Walk in Boston.
SPEAKER 15 :
The long one or the short one?
SPEAKER 06 :
The short one, yeah. I want to go back. I want to go back. But lots of history, and this was in 1775. So, Lorne, I think we’re in our 1775 moment here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, there’s a lot going on, that’s for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
There’s a lot going on, and that’s why we do this show. I did want to mention, are you a golfer?
SPEAKER 15 :
I tried. I’m not very good. And then I’ve got this bad back thing, so it’s cut into the playing quite a bit.
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So you probably aren’t going to do the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I haven’t played in a while.
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15th, okay. But if you’re a golfer and you want to support the foundation and have a great day of golf out at the… I think it’s the Ridge and Castle Pines, go to the USMC Memorial Foundation and check out their website. And that would be a great thing to do to help support them. And that is on May 15th, which is right around the corner. And very excited to have Lauren in studio and Karen Levine will be in studio in a little bit. But I know all my sponsors personally, and I know each and every one of them strives for excellence. And so I’m blessed to work with these great people. And I’m so pleased to have the Roger Magnet State Farm Insurance team as a sponsor of the show. And we’re getting into hail season. Colorado is one of the top hail capitals of the world. And so let’s talk a little bit about roofs because roofs are one of the things that gets…
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damaged in a hail storm and lots of questions about replacement costs can you get insured to replace the whole roof what what does that look like exactly good question kim and yes hail season is upon us i think the latest claim i’ve ever had with hail was in october the earliest one was april so it’s a long season um you know it’s six months on the calendar and You know, if you have a roof that gets hit by hail and it’s 10 years old, and it’s, let’s say, severe hail, smaller than a golf ball, but severe coming down the right direction with the great velocity it gets coming out of the clouds, it can tear your roof up. So you need a new roof. Before we get to the financial side of that roof, I deplore you, please, do not, Except a knock on the door and talk to a roofer. I’ve had people who have done that. They get far enough into that conversation where they really like this roofer to be. And the worst part is signing a contract with that roofer. Basically, hail chaser, they have a team that goes and knocks on doors and, hey, your neighbor used us. Can I have a conversation with you? Or your neighbor got a new roof. Did you get one? Let me talk. So they’re really very smooth at what they do. And there are a lot of very good legitimate roofers out there. I don’t want to throw them under the bus. But there are some that take advantage of the situation. So first thing you do is call your agent. Say, hey, we had a hailstorm here. Would you please… You know, have someone come out and look at the roof. You’d want a state farm adjuster, for example. The best thing to do is get your agent to recommend a roofer who will go out, not the state farm adjuster. But a roofer, and your agent can give you the name of two or three roofers, that will come out, they’ll assess the roof and say, yes, you need a new roof. So you have a trusted roofer. Now you call your agent and set up a claim. If you do it in reverse, you set up a claim with State Farm, and there is no damage. Just because your neighbor got a new roof doesn’t mean you got one. That’s… I guess we call it. Everybody thinks, boy, I never got one. I deserve one. Hailstorms are kind of unique that way. They can damage a house right next to you and not damage yours. Be that as it may, your state farm adjuster comes out after the claim is filed and he writes it up. So now the roofer that you had come out looks at that state farm estimate and says, I can do it for that. Or that state farm estimator missed a few things, but the roofer and the estimator worked that out. You’re kind of out of the picture now, and that’s the ideal thing to do, to have a good roofer and a good adjuster, look at the differences, work it out, and write up a final estimate. Now, as far as replacement costs, A roof today is probably $30,000 to $50,000 to put out of, let’s say, a 3,000, 2,000 to 3,000 square foot house. That’s a big check, okay? So let’s say it’s a $20,000 loss. State Farm writes you a check, and they give you maybe out of $20,000, they give you $12,000 or $15,000. They’re going to hold back the loss. the difference until the roof is done so they have some leverage really to make sure the quality of the job is such that you accept it so and that’s a little confusing to people because your mortgage company is involved and the mortgage company is going to have to sign off on that so it is a there’s a three-way commitment going on here between the mortgage company the roofer and your insurance company and you’re in there of course your insurance company represents you but at the same time we have an obligation to the mortgage company to make sure that job has been done because they’re they own as much of that house as you do so as far as depreciation of the roof there are some companies out there writing business that do not give you a hundred percent replacement cost So you need to know what you’re buying on that roof situation. And if you’re getting a quote, be sure you say, do I have full replacement costs? If they say yes, State Farm sells only full replacement cost policies. The only thing they do is hold back until the job is done to make sure the job is done correctly to your satisfaction.
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Okay, Roger, that’s important information. So ask that question, do I have full replacement costs? And I think that can save you a bunch of headaches down the road here in Colorado where we are one of the hail capitals of the world. What’s the best way for people to reach you for a complimentary appointment?
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. I was busy last week, even though we… Had four days of prerecords, and Ramey Johnson and Walt Johnson, they did a screening with AMAC of Climate Conversation out in Lakewood. And Walt is kicking around the idea of doing a sequel to a Climate Conversation.
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And what is AMAC?
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uh American mature or something it’s the uh it’s the conservative alternative to aarp I think it is oh and so it was a great screening and uh so Walt’s kicking that idea around but you can watch a climate conversation for free at a climateconversation.com and Eric bless his heart he i don’t think the guy sleeps because he is so informed on everything but i get a text message he said uh hey a climate conversation was on at 4 a.m on newsmax i hadn’t watched it yet it was great and so eric thank you for that and then also this had come in from yvonne on friday she said we’re going to loveland hooters for fish and chips for good friday supporting those who support you. I love that. And then she also just texted me. She said she’s never been to Boston and she and I can be travel buddies. And she said, I’ll go with you. She would, she and I would have a blast in Boston. So we’re going to have to make a date on that because she’s listening to you. You don’t have much of a Boston accent.
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lauren levy it’s funny i i never really did um i have relatives that you would have trouble understanding but it only evidently come the one thing i’ve always been told is i talk fast which is a northeast thing okay um you know people have told me i have to slow down when i explain things sometimes but and then i’ve also heard that if i get mad it comes out
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I’m not sure that I could ever imagine Lord loving mad.
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It takes a lot.
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I bet it does.
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Yeah.
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But I bet when it happens.
SPEAKER 15 :
It hasn’t happened in a while, but it’s happened.
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Yeah. Same here. There’s lots of things when I get mad that I’ve tried to really temper that. But I wanted to mention thank you, Yvonne, for going to Hooters restaurants, supporting those that support me. And our show in Hooters restaurants, there’s five locations, Lovedon, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. Great specials for lunch and a happy hour. Probably can’t watch the Red Sox at 9 a.m. this morning because I don’t think they open yet.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s true.
SPEAKER 06 :
They don’t have breakfast over there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I’m not doing wings for breakfast very often.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, but the Red Sox season opener today, right? No, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, they’re like 20 games in. They’re like the Rockies. Oh, okay. This is just the Patriots day game. That’s why they do it. They do it so that, like we used to do this as kids. We would go to the game and get out. Of school. Well, everyone has the day off for school. So we go to the game. The game would end. And you walk out of Fenway Park and you’ve just missed the winners of the marathon. go by so then you could catch friends you know so like in college we’d go to the red songs game get out of the game go down to the finish line and you know we’d be carrying beers in our jackets and not you and then we just wait for our friends that were running the marathon okay to come by so like the game starts at nine the it’ll so that means it’ll end at like noon the winners finished the marathon like 11 30 i think okay the guys that are just flying
SPEAKER 06 :
I didn’t realize that the Boston Marathon was for Patriots Day as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that’s today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, and yes, I should know that opening day was earlier in April, and we’re in the hockey playoffs and basketball playoffs, too.
SPEAKER 15 :
So that marathon bombing, I think, was April 15th of 2013. I think it was right around now, you know, this time on Patriots Day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, good to know. And so, great place, though, to watch all the games, Hooters restaurants. Check that out. And great sponsors of the show. And let’s see. Oh, let’s see. Did I give the quote of the day with Benjamin Franklin?
SPEAKER 15 :
I heard it in the first hour, but not this time.
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Okay. I gave the word of the day. Felicitous. And the quote of the day is from Benjamin Franklin. He said, the U.S. Constitution doesn’t guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. And Karen Levine is in studio as well for Everything Mortgages. Yep. No, not mortgage, but I’m really real estate. It’s okay. Sorry.
SPEAKER 15 :
She dabbles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’m a little rusty here, taking some time off. Okay. Okay. Is this the year that your word is joy, or was that last year?
SPEAKER 05 :
That was last year. I’d like to grab that word back because it’s this year’s word. It’s tough.
SPEAKER 06 :
What was this year’s word? It’s listen.
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And you laugh.
SPEAKER 06 :
I get it. I truly get it. So, OK, let me make sure I’ve done everything that I want to do here. And so let’s jump into it regarding, first of all, real estate. While I had some time off on Friday, the day it was snowing, I ended up having lunch. This was a lunch that was planned for probably six weeks with some other girlfriends. And my girlfriend from Phoenix was in town. They were staying down in Colorado Springs. She’d organized this luncheon, and then she couldn’t make it because it was snowing. So the rest of us got together, but one of the girls is moving to Texas and she has her house on the market and she, and it’s in the South Metro area. And she said, I think I missed it. We, she said, I think that we put our house on a little too high and we haven’t had any offers. It’s been on the market for a month. And so I’m seeing more for sale signs. And I think What we’ve learned, Lauren, you and I have sat at this desk and watched so many different things happen in the mortgage market, the real estate market. So what’s going on right now, Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first I would say the fact you’re seeing more signs is a seasonal thing. We always see more signs in April. The most amount of signs actually seasonally is in April. And the most amount of buyers typically in the marketplace is March, April to mid-May. So this is the height of what we would consider the spring selling season. I have heard that the market of the South Metro area, Southern Aurora, Parker, Centennial, Lone Tree, those markets are seeing less activity. And I don’t know that I have an answer to the why they’re seeing less activity. The Northwest suburbs are very active. We’re seeing multiple offers on homes. But with that said, you and I and Lauren have talked about pricing. And you, as a seller, need to be very, very sensitive to your pricing strategy and make sure that you’re getting good professional advice about pricing your home. Because overpricing can be very, very harmful. Underpricing, and not dramatically underpricing, but when you slightly underprice… you look like a very good value, which creates more eyes on your property and the potential for multiple offers or for a very strong full price offer initially. So pricing is critical. And I would say… I have a new listing up in Arvada. It is lovely, three-bedroom, three-bath, two-car garage, priced well at $670. But Easter weekend is not an ideal time to see a lot of traffic. So this weekend was pretty quiet. It will be interesting to see when I get in the office today if that was true across the board.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I’m wondering if there’s been, down in the south metro area, there’s been such an increase in values of homes. And so I’m wondering if maybe Northwest is more reasonably priced or no? No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, I showed property to a client who this is an interesting journey that we are on. The client has a handicapped son who is in a wheelchair. And. Obviously, they have special needs of a home that can accommodate a wheelchair. We need a main floor bedroom, not a main floor master. We need a main floor secondary bedroom. And what we’re finding is finding the bedroom is not the challenge. It’s finding a bathroom that can be retrofitted for a wheelchair. There’s just not a lot of square footage in those bathrooms.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, because normally there might be the bathroom without a shower.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. If you have a main floor bedroom, you typically have a three-quarter bath. Because you have a bedroom, you wouldn’t have just a half bath to accommodate that bedroom. But it’s the size of that bathroom that doesn’t have enough radial space to turn a wheelchair around. With that said, we looked in the Ken Carroll area, we looked in Arvada, and we looked in backcountry, which is the southwest side of Highlands Ranch. And those homes were seeing a lot of activity two weeks ago, two, three weeks ago. And, you know, that was in the south and then obviously the west. And a couple of those homes are still on the market. But I showed him, I believe, eight properties and half are under contract.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Interesting. So there’s activity. Okay. Well, and I want to find out with all this tariff stuff, what that’s been doing to the mortgage market with Lorne Levy. So we’re going to go to break. And when we come back, we’ll have that discussion. But while I was off last week, I have that in air quotes, off last week. I did emcee an event down at the Center for American Values on Wednesday. It was fascinating by Norma Donlon. And she was born, she’s Japanese heritage, in one of the Japanese internment camps during World War II. And it was fascinating. And you can catch that. You can go to the Center for American Values website, which is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And catch that there. And then Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient, started a podcast, which is very interesting. And he did one on Greenland that I think that you really want to check that out. You can do all that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. And I’m really pleased to welcome as a new sponsor of the show, the Second Syndicate.
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SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea… Should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. Lauren Levy, mortgages, 10-year treasury, tariffs, what’s going on?
SPEAKER 15 :
A lot of bouncing around.
SPEAKER 06 :
You don’t need to go to the theme park and get on the roller coaster. You can just watch this, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I mean, you always talk about when we do our calls how long we’ve been working together. And the whole theme throughout the whole thing has been uncertainty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Regarding the tariffs and all that?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, just regarding anything in the market. Stock markets, any market doesn’t like uncertainty. It could be about anything. Right now, it’s the tariffs, right? I mean, in years past, it could be terrorist attacks or geopolitical tensions or what might happen, who might attack who or –
SPEAKER 05 :
But there’s always uncertainty.
SPEAKER 15 :
Typically, there is something.
SPEAKER 05 :
Inflation. Yeah. Remember when we were watching inflation.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, or COVID was a huge one, right? I mean, any of them, anytime you don’t know exactly what’s going to happen, markets don’t like that. They like direction and they like to know where things are headed. So right now we have uncertainty as to what will be the result of the tariffs. Will they stay on? Will they, you know, after this 90-day reprieve, will they come back? Will they be there? Will they not? Will it affect growth? Will it affect employment? Will it affect prices and inflation? A lot of uncertainty. And so when you have that, markets get scared. And people… All markets are risky. The stock market has risk, right? And people will not want to take that risk when they’re uncertain. So that’s when markets go down. People sell and go to cash. They also sell bonds, which are very safe, but… have some risk, and they’ll go to cash. And when they’re doing that, it brings down the value of all these different assets. So bonds work inverse to their price. The price comes down, the interest rates go up. The yield on the bonds goes up, which causes interest rates to rise. And that’s what we’ve seen. But then you’ll have something happen, like… We had those days when the stock market was down kind of big a couple days in a row, and then President Trump said he’s going to do a 90-day reprieve on a tariff, and the stock market went up by 2,000 points. And when you’re trying to price loans for people and you have a day like that, you’re like, whoa, that rate I just gave does not apply, as opposed to 30 minutes ago.
SPEAKER 06 :
So on an individual basis, somebody’s gone through all the work of putting everything together and figuring out if they can make that house payment, and then it changes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, and that’s when we tell them all the time, when you lock in a loan, you’ve locked in your highest rate. Okay. It’s not going any higher. From there, things can move around. We have ways we can do things, and the worst case scenario is… you’re looking at a refinance months down the road, which is a worst-case scenario, and that’s where we try to help people cover their costs as much as we can the second time around because there are costs to refinance. But at least you know the highest rate you’re going to have. And if you’re comfortable with that, you’re fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and Karen Levine, I think that people, it’s just human nature. You want to buy low, sell high. Or if you buy a house, and we had seen multiple offers, people say, gosh, did I overpay for my house? However, if they’re going to be there for a long time, it doesn’t matter that much, right? No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, in in the comment of overpaying is relative to the market, which is exactly what Lauren just said. You have a choice. And what we talk about is the freedom to make those decisions. And when you we had short supply and had high demand, we had less houses available for buyers. Well, that causes prices to go up and they had the decision to make. Do I make a decision to buy at this price? and get a three, three and a half percent mortgage, which really made the overall price irrelevant because the cost of money was so low. And now today we’re in a market where interest rates really are where interest rates typically have been for my career of 35, almost 40 years. So you look at rates in the sixes being pretty typical. And yes, our prices went up. But again, we still struggle with an inventory shortage. And yet the perception is there are a lot of signs out there. And yet we aren’t at a number of signs that would create what we would refer to as a balanced market where you have equal amount of buyers and sellers in the marketplace. And maybe you have a little bit of downward pressure on pricing if it becomes more of a buyer’s market. We haven’t seen that.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I am so concerned about all of these apartments. We’ve talked about that. And Lauren, as we were talking just about this, and I’m a free market girl. If people want to rent, great. But what I’ve learned is there’s really been some coercion by government to push these apartments. four and five story apartment buildings and then also we’re seeing colorado state legislature trying to for example there was this let’s see which bill was this that uh i think it was 1169 where it would say that churches and schools could use some of their property for affordable housing which could change the fabric of a neighborhood significantly and so this government coercion trying to push people into rental units. I’ve been concerned about it. And you said one of the reasons that that had happened, because you mentioned, Karen, the cost of money, the cost of money to build these apartment buildings was favorable, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, for a long time it was. These guys were getting FHA financing, you know, to build these these apartment buildings in very low rates. So they’re going to go where they can profit. Right. I mean, that’s business. So if they can make more to an apartments and not have to face the lawsuits of condos. That we have that they’ve had to face and and make more money that that’s a no brainer for them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I agree. I drive around all the time and I’ll be with my wife. I’m like, look at this building now. Look at this building now. And they’re trying to push all along the corridor. And every time I drive up and down these empty trains rolling up and down, it’s just like, man, this doesn’t work.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s it doesn’t work. And I saw I was driving driving around last week and I was at a stoplight and one of those accordion buses was there and it was empty. And I was thinking, what? Think of this transfer of wealth. Taking from people via sales tax because we pay sales tax to RTD. And just to continue this. And empty trains, I would drive by and there was nobody on the platforms to get on these trains. But they continue to move them back and forth. And it’s crazy to do this.
SPEAKER 15 :
The only times I see these, I mean, I guess there are times when I see people like early in the day or late in the evening, maybe taking them to work. Only when you have some place to go, it seems like a specific destination, like a Bronco game. I’m going to and from a concert, to and from the Broncos, to and from the Rockies. You’ll see some full trains. But when I drive around just on a normal time, you know, 10 a.m., there’s nobody on these things. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s crazy.
SPEAKER 15 :
They’ve built all these apartments where everyone’s just going to ride the train because they wouldn’t need a car. Yeah. But they want their car.
SPEAKER 06 :
They want their car. They want to be able to go where they want to, when they want to.
SPEAKER 15 :
And a lot of them want to put it in a garage. You think? Where they don’t have to brush off the snow.
SPEAKER 05 :
You think? Well, so then, you know, let’s not require parking spaces.
SPEAKER 06 :
For all this building. Because they think if you don’t have a place to park the car, then you won’t own a car. But what happens now is then everybody’s parking their cars in the neighborhoods nearby.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, which then affects it. But I am not fond of the multitude of apartments that got built. But you’ve got to look… When you look at it from a business perspective, of which Lauren was saying, if the return on an investment is positive for that developer investor, they will continue to build apartments. But if those apartments are not getting filled with renters, there’s going to be the pullback. And we always talk about overbuilding, overbuilding. There was a period of time I thought we were building way too much assisted living. And now you find we really don’t have too much assisted living. So a lot of that’s projection. A lot of that is business forecasting and you’re going to make good choices. You, the business owner, the investor, et cetera, et cetera. And some are going to be successful and some aren’t. The sad part is I believe that so much of what has come out of our city councils and our state legislature is has impeded the building of home ownership units, that has caused the unaffordable situation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which brings us up. Remember when you and I did that World Economic Forum show? And you and I, we were very concerned about it because we thought, oh, everybody will think that we have tin hats on. But you and I started to research it because there was a quote by somebody from the World Economic Forum that by 2030 that we’ll own nothing and be happy about it. You and I looked at it and we’re thinking, well, that seems kind of crazy. But that’s what that agenda has been. And then we’ve seen it, as you mentioned, play out. through public policy, to be favorable to rental units. You won’t own anything, but you’re not happy about it. I know a lot of people would like to have their own home. And we kind of thought we were crazy, but it’s been public policy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. But I think what’s exciting is that the American people still want the freedom to and the ability to own because that’s what built america property rights and i think what’s exciting is to see yes the first time the average age of the first time home buyer um has increased you know it’s in the mid 30s maybe higher 30s now um but the desire for them to do that they’re figuring it out and they’re making it happen despite all the things all the roadblocks and so I love that that’s our nature and it’s ingrained in us as people that we want those things.
SPEAKER 06 :
So before we go to break, you had told me about a conversation because you’re very involved at the local county and state level and that you were having a meeting regarding housing. And I don’t remember who it was with, but it was always incentives. And you said, hey, maybe we could look at this differently, which I thought was huge.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and you know. It’s also our nature that if we’ve done it this way, we should always do it this way. And so affordable housing has typically been incentivized. And that’s because it’s hard to bring a product out of the market when the land costs this and the building costs are these, et cetera, et cetera. A developer… builder is not going to build those properties for no profit. They are in the business of making money. And so incentives have created that opportunity to bring that lower-priced product to the market. But then the question is, well, how can you do this without it? And what I was happy about is the Government Affairs Committee at the Denver Metro Association just wrote our policy statement about, you know, the general… guidelines of what we will and not will and will not support. And I said, is there any chance that we could stop using the word incentive? And they did a good job in some regards, rewording some of those and seeing the harm or potential harm of always utilizing incentives. Good. So that was exciting.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s very good. What do you think about that, Lauren?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think, you know, the one thing as we do this show more and more, I always pay attention to when I’m reading or listening to things now. And, you know, there’s an incentive for everything, it seems like, you know, to try to get companies to move here, to bring jobs. They waive their property taxes on their building or whatever, you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s like, how’s that fair?
SPEAKER 15 :
To try to get movies made in states. They’ll try to, you know, waive all the taxes and stuff. And they incentivize everything.
SPEAKER 06 :
So the answer to this, and I had a conversation with a friend of mine in the film industry because we were just talking about incentives. There’s a bill down at the state house incentives for the film industry. And she said, well, Kim, this will bring producers in. This will be good because they’ll have to hire caterers. And I get all that. However, if you lower taxes across the board, so what if Boulder brings in Sundance, which I think is really great. But if if they’re giving business to a caterer, that doesn’t do anything for me. I’m still paying higher and higher taxes. So my friend and I were having this spirited discussion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. But the caterer then hires more employees. So there is economic benefit. And I’m not disagreeing with you that, well, if you’re going to give incentive, why don’t you give it to the citizens by less tax? I do see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I like your thinking. Yeah. I like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it’s, you know, it depends. It’s terrible that we’ve gotten into the habit. Well, they’ll just tax us. And they just do because we have many of us still push back, but the majority don’t push back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that’s why we do the show. And I’m so pleased to know that, Lauren, that you, hopefully people are learning as we’re getting these experts on. So we’ll continue the discussion. And actually, I got so interested, I was not looking at the text line. So this Mark says, housing is not the proper role of government. Market solutions only. I agree with him. And we have all these discussions because of these wonderful people I work with, like Karen Levine and Lauren Levy and John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I saw Paula Sarles, president of the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation, on Saturday night at a birthday party. And it was at a Korean barbecue party. which was so interesting. You have to work. You have to cook your food. And what happens, Lorne, is I get to talking with people, and it’s lucky that I like my meat well done. Overcooked, yeah. But Paula is doing such great work, and they’re going to have their… Second annual USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament on May 15th, and you can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. In studio with me is Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages, and Karen Levine, you want her on your side of the table. If you’re buying a home, selling a home. We’re looking at a new build. And I know she can bring all that expertise to the table for you. And I tell you, the residential real estate market, you need somebody like you on their side of the table, Karen. Well, thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think they do.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s for sure. I thought you’d probably agree. So I was off for four days. We prerecorded some amazing shows and Gabby is on the line. She was she didn’t take any time off. She was continuing to stay engaged, writing summaries on many of these bills down at the statehouse. Gabby, welcome. Did you miss me?
SPEAKER 04 :
I missed you terribly. Good morning, everybody. Considering half the weekend I was throwing up, that wasn’t fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I’m sorry. Are you feeling better?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Listen, today, Ken DeGraff needs help. Okay. He needs people’s support. HCR, which is a concurrent resolution, 1003. It’s only one page to read, and you write a half a page, a page, send in the written. If you can zoom in, zoom in. If you’re there anyway, show up. This is about a person’s rights related to their children. Literally, this resolution submits a constitutional amendment to the voters of the state at a 2026 general election, and if approved, Add to the non-exclusive list of inalienable rights of all persons the right to direct the upbringing, education, and care of their children. Literally, this is, you know what this is? This is a counter to the nightmare that they have passed with all the bills where the state, the human services, the judges, the legislators are taking your children over. This is like the Communist Manifesto. The state will take your kids. And they’ve passed bills that already give them those rights. So I suspect he’s going to have a heck of a fight. You know what? If I have to drop dead, I’m going to call and I already signed up to Zoom on Saturday. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, Gammy, again, I’m trying to find it. What is the number for that resolution?
SPEAKER 04 :
HCR, House Concurrent Resolution 25-1003, a person’s right related to their children. It is simple, short, and sweet, and to the point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. I was trying to find it in Bill Track 50, and I’m not finding it quickly. So, again, what time and where today?
SPEAKER 04 :
1.30 in the House State Military and Veterans Committee.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Okay. It’s HCR 1003. Got it. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
I figure, you know what? What’s the worst I can do? Show up in their faces, which I want to do anyway when I call in.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what’s that? Okay. Okay, Gammy, thank you so much for getting that on our radar. And that is HCR1003. And so that is something to do today. So thank you. I appreciate it immensely. And I wanted to get through just a few of these text messages as well. Mark says Gammy is the Energizer Bunny. That is true. And he also said incentives don’t work. They make everything worse. Ultimately, I remember, gosh, it was the company… Now, I can’t remember the name of the company, but they’d gotten incentives in California. And once those incentives ran out, then they started shopping around looking for incentives for another place to move. And so they left the place where they were, which was supposed to incentivize everything around there, and moved to another state. And so what happens is government’s picking winners and losers. And, Lauren, that’s not the proper role of government.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, but it’s happening all the time on many, many different things. You know, and if you just, people just don’t pay attention to it enough, I don’t think, you know. I remember, do you remember recently within the last few years when Amazon was looking at a home?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And all these different states were competing for it. It was just who can lay out the biggest incentives, you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you can’t blame Amazon.
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because as you mentioned, Karen, developers, they look at the landscape of what PBIs have put in place, and they’ve tried to work within that context. So the problem is we’ve got to make sure the PBIs are staying in their proper role. And I was against those incentives here in Colorado. And it was the one thing that I’ve agreed with AOC on because she was against all that as well. But she and I were coming at it for different reasons.
SPEAKER 15 :
I come from an athletic background. I remember in college I wrote a 35-page marketing paper in sports about these cities building stadiums for these teams to try to lure them when they already have billionaire owners.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. What’s wrong with that picture?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. And I mean, that’s the same thing right now. I mean, we’re looking at it locally here. It’s on the news. The Broncos are looking to move.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. They’ve talked to Lone Tree. They’ve talked about, I believe, somewhere up by the airport would be like the second one. And there you can see without them admitting it, they’re playing these cities against each other.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
to see who will cough up the most tax relief and tax breaks or give them the land. And you say, well, what’s wrong with their current stadium? Nothing. It’s just they can make more revenue with a newer one, and they can build condos around it and retail. I’m from New England. We’ve talked about Boston. Robert Kraft owns the Patriots. He was brilliant. He built that stadium with his money and just told the state of Massachusetts, just give me the roads. Like widen the roads. I need access. But he had the land. He had the stadium. And now if you go to that stadium, it’s got an outdoor mall with all these restaurants and stuff. And everything’s there, their Hall of Fame. And he owns it all.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don’t think that the taxpayers should be doing.
SPEAKER 15 :
But the threat is that they’ll leave. They hold that carrot that if you don’t give us a stadium and we have to play in this awful, antiquated, beautiful stadium much longer, well, maybe Nashville wants a football team. Or someone that doesn’t have one in Portland, Oregon might need a football team.
SPEAKER 06 :
So we’ll have to talk about that next month because we’re out of time. So do you have any final thoughts, Lorne?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I just gave them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, sounds good. And Karen Levine, thank you. Oh, let’s give your phone number, 303-880-8881. That’s for everything mortgages, 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Karen Levine, your phone number.
SPEAKER 06 :
My phone number is 303-877-7516. And we are in the heat of the spring selling season. So if you’re interested in buying or selling, give me a call today. That’s 303-877-7516. It’s always great to have both of you here.
SPEAKER 15 :
And one final thought. I know Nashville has a football team, so if anybody texts on that, I caught it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. That’s good. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is from Andrew Napolitano. He said this. All presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe. But all presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president’s first job, as Jefferson understood it well, is to keep us free. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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young like a new moon rising fierce through the rain and lightning wandering out into this great unknown and I don’t want no one to cry but tell them if I don’t
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