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Scott Watley brings the heart of the Colorado outdoors to your ears with a packed lineup that includes expert discussions and product insights from OnX Hunt. Discover how technology is reshaping the way we interact with our environment and the importance of being prepared before heading into the wilderness. Engage with passionate industry professionals as they share their experiences and the value of staying informed and connected in the outdoor community.
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Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado’s premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado’s top outfitters featuring the industry’s leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here’s your host, Scott Watley.
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Welcome to Sportsman Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us today. Hey, we’ve got a jam-packed show for you today. But before we get going, I want to remind you, we’re seeing a lot of questions on social media about the big game draw and when we’re going to see the results. On the back of the 2025 big game brochure is all your answers. May 27th through the 30th, they’re going to be posting the results. You have until June 13th to hit that payment deadline. make sure the credit card you have in their system is still valid. Maybe it expired. So make sure your payment method there is good as well. Hey, the end of April, we had our Sportsman’s Day at the Capitol. And we’re going to take a real quick break here in just a second, but I just wanted to give you a heads up that OnX, our partners, were there and got to meet several folks in there. So we’re going to be replaying that interview that we did for you at the Capitol today. And then also stopped over at Green Mountain Guns this week, talked to Jake Salthouse. And then next weekend, the 17th and 18th, is the Colorado Gun Collector Show. And we’ve got Tom Hillman on to tell us about that. And also I want to mention Murphy Robinson. He is on his new role here with Colorado Parks and Wildlife on the CPW Commission Board and saw him at an event and invited him on the show, and he has agreed to come on. So, hey, I want to say now, get your questions to us. for him, and we will address them all. So you can send me a text at 720-201-8585. Again, 720-201-8585, and we’ll give you plenty of notice when Murphy Robinson is going to be a guest with us here on Sportsman of Colorado. So don’t go anywhere. A lot coming back. Our friends from OnX from Sportsman’s Day at the Capitol on April 25th will be with us next.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. If you’re just joining us, we were recently at the Sportsman’s Day at the Capitol, April 25th, and a lot of our friends were there. A lot of sponsors on the show. We come down just to, hey, see what’s going on, encourage each other, see what we can do to continue the fight for our rights. Hey, we’ve never been under such attack as we are now for guns and hunting and all the different things. So a lot of great organizations are here. One of those, one of my favorite, Onyx. If you know the name, you know, hey, you’ll always know where you are if you know the name Onyx. How’s that? All right. And just by chance, I actually wore an Onyx hoodie here and then met some folks from Onyx. So I’m going to let you guys go around to introduce yourself and kind of tell us your role with Onyx.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, thank you. My name is Bergen and I am part of our product team. So my teams are kind of supporting all of the different Onyx brands across our suite of products.
SPEAKER 01 :
And I’m Brandon, also a product manager here. And yeah, we work across the product, but we’re all fellow hunters. And so that’s what brings us out to this event today.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, my name’s Paul, and I work on the hunt team. I’m a product manager helping get tools for our hunters that they can use out in the field. Cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, I’ll ask a question, and you can tell me who maybe wants to jump in to answer it, and we can all kind of do this as a roundtable deal again. You’re going to hear sounds all around. We are live at the Capitol while we’re recording this segment here for the show. You know, you see something and you think, God, why couldn’t I think of that? First of all, I’m not that smart to think of that on X. But anybody want to get into the early days of how it got started and can kind of talk about just the progression? Because, I mean, you guys don’t sit still. I mean, you’re always coming out with new stuff to help us, right? So walk us through there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. I mean, Onyx has been around for 14 plus years now and obviously started as a project for our founder, Eric, who wanted a better way to use his GPS in the field with county data that included private land ownership maps. And so it started there. And back in the day, we built chips that would go into a Garmin Rhino or other Garmin devices. And since then, we’ve grown past the chip age and where we saw a big opportunity when smartphones came out and there was apps and we could put this actually on a smartphone and everyone could have it in their pocket. And, you know, that’s been the trajectory. And now as we look forward, you know, we’ve expanded out of hunt and into backcountry and into off road and into fish. We’re continuing to grow and give our users more opportunity to have this map and this tool in their pocket so that they can go further and feel confident getting away from the truck and away from maybe the other hunters that are all at that easy access point.
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Here’s one thing I think makes you guys so successful is everybody that I’ve ever met connect with you are hunters or are they fish, whatever, but you’re outdoor people. And then you get it. You know, so many times I think people invent something. They’ll get some clothing or something. I’m like, dude, that is never going to work because it doesn’t fit what you need. You know, the size pockets, whatever. Yeah. But, you know, Onyx and I was just telling you that we went out turkey hunting the other day and we were on this small property. And so I told the guy, I said, man, we got to watch here to see where we are. And man, it’s so nice to follow the little dot. And then I knew right where we were. And then, you know, you’re not going to get in trouble. And I’m hunting with my attorney. So I had to be very, very careful. But, you know, it. Talk about that just a minute. Bergen. Bergen, okay. Bergen and Brandon? Okay, see, you guys are messing me up here for an old guy. Bergen, talk about that because it is your responsibility as an outdoorsman, hunter, fishing, whatever, to know where you are, right? I mean, CPW, hey, they’re not too lenient on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, no, I think that is, it’s been the biggest value prop. I think that the product offers is really being able to have that confidence of knowing where, I mean, you’ll be in a wilderness area or in public, you know, BLM or on in national forests. And like that private line is not typically like identified. There’s not always a fence. There’s not always a clear, like no trespassing sign or private land sign. So I have used onyx in so many different capacities just outside of hunting as well just recreating in the outdoors and knowing that I can do that with confidence and really understanding that kind of that boundary line has been the biggest thing for me to give me the confidence to know that I can forage that mushroom or I can shoot that rabbit it’s it’s been a Yeah, I often find myself pulling my phone out of my pocket and being like, oh, I think I’m close to the boundary. But I mean, animals are smart. They like to hang out on that public private land boundary. So it’s advantageous for both of us.
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And, you know, this is a pretty competitive field, so to speak, competitive market, mapping and all the different things. So, Brandon, I’ll let you take this one and anybody else have some input. But what do you feel like really sets Onyx apart when you just lay all the facts out? And, hey, we’re not saying there’s not some good systems out there, okay? But we feel Onyx has the best. So tell us what you feel and what you would say, hey, this is why we feel we’re the best.
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Yeah, I mean, I think it goes back to what Paul said around the origin of the company and really solving that problem early on. And for our founder, it was solving that problem, knowing where you stand. And the whole company’s been built around that. And so I think with that and then bringing in a lot of folks that also really obsess about that problem and the customer has helped the product to continue to grow and become stronger and better for our users. And you kind of asked this question earlier around hunters building this product for other hunters. That’s a big part of our… You know, our ethos is these products are purpose-built. So we do a ton of our own dogfooding and usage of the app across the different apps that we have to make sure we’re solving the problems that we need to before we start releasing those to customers. And so I think that ability to really just grow in this space over time and be in it for a while has really allowed us to just continue to build an amazing product. Wow.
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Once again, we’re coming to you live from the Sportsman’s Day at the Capitol. We’re recording this on April 25th. And, hey, if you’ve never been to this, watch all the social media. We’ll let you know when we’re having these events. Usually there’s some wild game dinners going on. But you’ll get to meet a lot of great people, be around a lot of great folks. Get the facts. And, you know, there’s so many things on social media that just aren’t true. But unfortunately, a lot of it is true of just the attacks that we’re under. You can come here and meet people, figure out how you can get involved, how you can help. Hey, there’s banquets around. There’s get togethers that we do. And we need everybody to step up and be a part of this. All right. And your first name again? Paul. All right, Paul. I’m going to let you take this one. For people that have heard of Onyx, but they’re like, man, they’re my age, 60 plus. I’m not a super technical person. How do you walk somebody through how to get started with Onyx?
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Yeah, there’s a ton of resources. First, go download it on your phone or go on to onyxmaps.com. Try it out on the computer. But join us for our teaching courses. We’ve got a bunch of master classes that we teach. They’re free to all our users. We post them on our YouTube channel. You can join and actually ask questions. But we’ll walk every user through how to use this app. We’ve also got an amazing customer support team that’s up in Montana, here in the US, that answers our phone seven days a week. And they’ll walk you through any problems you might have with the app. The big thing is it is complex. There’s lots of things you can do in the app. But to just get started, come and let us teach you. So come to the masterclasses, call our customer support, read our articles, and we’ll really get you out the door and into the field.
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Now, there are a couple of different memberships, right? Can you walk us through those?
SPEAKER 10 :
I can. Yeah, we’ve got a couple of different options. So we’ve got our premium product, which will get you access to one state and all of the layer data that we have for that state. For all of these packages that I’ll talk about, it comes with all the features like offline maps, which are really important here when you’re hunting. out of service, making sure you have that map downloaded before you leave the internet connection. But that premium will give you one state access. We have a two-state product. We know a lot of people will travel to one or two states a year to hunt. And then the third package is our elite offering, which will give you access to the entire United States.
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And to me, I don’t want to interrupt you, but to me, that’s absolutely the best deal. I mean, $100. Look what you spend to go do all that you do. And to have everything for the whole, because you never know where you’re going to get invited to go or, you know, and maybe help somebody else out too. So I’m all for that package.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. It breaks out at nine bucks a month. And so it’s like for everything that you get, it’s like super cheap. Yeah, super cheap.
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Yeah, I think the elite package and that full country access, I got my hunting license in 2020, and I have had five out-of-state hunting licenses since then. So I think once you dip your toe in the water, it’s really exciting to think about hunting different areas, and it really just gives you such a different perspective of you could be driving along I-76, you’re like, what’s even out here? And then you get along the Platte River, and you get into Nebraska, and you hunt these different birds and these different species. It’s just… It gives you the confidence to go do those other things by really investing in that elite product.
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Go ahead.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. And just to add to that, like with Elite, like, and Paul’s actually working on all these things, but there’s also a lot of other access you get to. And so Paul’s working on a tool called Hunt Research Tools, which is all draw odds and helps you find places to go hunt. And you get access to that tool as part of Elite. And then even there’s partner deals as part of Elite. And so some of the partners that we work with, we offer discounts there. So a lot of times you can make up the price tag of the membership just on the deals you can get. Yeah. So really it is like an amazing amount of access that you get with the Elite product. Wow.
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Well, once again, we’re live at the Capitol here for Sportsman’s Day, and I hope you’ll join us next year. If you weren’t able to get out this year, I tell you, it’s a lot of fun, meet a lot of great people. But I’m telling you, hey, you’re getting ready for the big game season coming up. You do not want to be without Onyx. Go check them out. Just Google Onyx. I think it’s onyxhunt.com. Yeah, that works. Onyxhunt.com. But go check it out. Hey, just get the Elite membership. Trust me. I’ll tell you what, you use it for a year and you don’t like it and it didn’t perform for you, you call me, I’ll give you your $99 back. That’s how confident I am about it. So it’s onxhunt.com. Check it out. Hey, it’ll help you tremendously. Guys, thanks for being out here. Thanks for supporting us. You’re listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We’ve got to take a quick break, and we’ll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for being with us. Well, always good to stop by Green Mountain Guns, 3355 South Yarrow Street in Lakewood. We are actually on location recording this segment with the manager, owner, Jake Salthouse.
SPEAKER 16 :
How are you? I’m doing good, man. How are you? It’s great to have you by.
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I always love coming by here. My wife will call and go, what are you doing? I’ve got to go by Green Mountain Guards. She goes, you’re over there like four times a week. What’s going on? And I’ll go, hey, you never know what you’re going to find.
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Well, you never do. You never know. I mean, it’s just we’ve got a very revolving inventory here, and you kind of almost have to come in once a week to see what’s new. No doubt.
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Man, you know, we’ve talked about this, I think, last time you were on, but the assault has even heated up. on all of our gun laws and different things they’re trying to do here. And as we’re recording this today, there’s probably still some things on the governor’s desk. We’re waiting for signatures or whatever. But hopefully… We can get some folks in to say, hey, this is not constitutional. Y’all can’t do this. And let’s get some lawsuits going and back some of this stuff off because, man, it’s a mess.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it’s a big mess. You know, I mean, how many were there in total? 17 bills, I think it was.
SPEAKER 07 :
I might be wrong about that. Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER 16 :
There’s a lot, but the biggest one that I think has got everybody’s attention is this SBO3, the assault weapons ban, which is very sweeping. It was presented to the public as, hey, that’s just AR-15s and AKs. That’s all we care about. That’s all we’re going to ban here. But it’s not the way they’ve written it. It’s Glocks. It’s SIGs. It’s every single semi-automatic mag fed gun out there on the market. I mean, it’s 95% of what we sell, you know? So it’s pretty devastating. I don’t, I don’t know what they’ll, what they’ll do. Um, Truly, I know there’s going to be a lot of lawsuits that are already pending. A lot of organizations like Rocky Mountain Gun Owners that are really knocking heads and really pushing hard to get this reversed or stricken from the record, all that. But at the end of the day, it’s a wait-and-see kind of game.
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There’s been some governors from… Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, telling gun stores, hey, you got a home here.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. You know, I’ve heard, you know, here’s the funny thing. When this law passed, I’ve had customers come in and literally say to me, hey, man, I heard you were going out of business or you were moving. Right. And I’m like, wow, that’s news to me. I had no idea that we were moving and going out of business because that’s not our plan. We’re planning on staying here and fighting as long as we can.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that’s what, I mean, that’s what they’d love for all of us to do. Shut the doors on all the gun shops and people go to go to other states, you know. But, man, we need. Small gun shops here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you know, I can tell you right now, we provide a service to, you know, the metro area that a lot of places don’t, multiple services, whether it’s FFL transfers or private party transfers. I mean, if you’ve called around to see if anybody does that anymore, they don’t. And I’m hearing about a lot of different places that are giving up their FFL or they’re moving to Idaho or Montana, you know, like… Great for them. I’m happy for them. You know, I understand. But in my heart, I feel like if I did that, right, I’m letting these people win. And I’m a fighter, man. I’m going to stay here and fight as long as I can and do everything I can to, you know, keep this business going. We’ve been here 53 years in this community, and it is honestly amazing. Really shocking that in that amount of time it’s changed so much. I mean, we’re worse than California, worse than New York, worse than Illinois now with all these laws they’re pushing. But there’s something that tells me. In the end, we’re going to be OK. Yeah. Right. Whether it’s a lawsuit, because it is so ridiculously unconstitutional. Right. They’re taking away our rights or saying you have to buy your rights back. That’s not a thing. You know, that’s not a free America. That’s not the America I’m from. Sure. I don’t know about you. Yeah. No, I agree. For me. Yeah.
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You know, when all this came out with the taxes, of course, that’s in place now. You’ve got to pay the extra tax on guns and ammo and all. I saw a lot of posts on social media. People go, oh, well, go to Wyoming, get my ammo, whatever. And I really encourage people to use that. Man, we’ve got to support you guys. Because, I mean, hey, can you go up there and maybe buy some stuff? Yeah, and save a few bucks. But you know what? For shipping, and this is what I’ve heard, so correct me if I’m wrong, if this is wrong information for shipping I’ve heard you know if you order something online And it’s coming to Colorado. First of all, we found a lot of stores aren’t doing it because they don’t want to jack with it. And then if it does come here, you do have to pay the tax.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, you do. And they’ll collect that when you buy it online. But that’s why a lot of these online retailers are just saying, no, we’re not going to ship to Colorado anymore because they don’t want to have to set up a whole separate accounting firm just to pay that 6.5% excise tax. Sure. Um, but, but here’s the thing, Scott, you know, going across the line and buying this or buying that works, but, but is that really what we want long-term? You know, is that what everybody wants long-term? If, if you have no mom and pop gun stores like me to do your transfers, to, to be here to service the community.
SPEAKER 07 :
Help with your gunsmithing, whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
A million different needs, a million different things. Uh, you know, it’s… All of this is so short-sighted by the Colorado government doing this. They just implement this 6.5% tax. But then they say, okay, we’re also going to say now… You can’t sell 95 percent of what you’re selling to collect that six and a half percent tax. So it just blows my mind. Honestly, what are they thinking? It just doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense. But anyways, enough of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, another thing to change, concealed carrying classes and different things like that. Yep. What are you guys doing with that right now?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, so I do have an instructor that works for me here at the store. His name’s Merck. Very good. He’s an ex-military guy and probably one of the best shooters I know, personally. But he is running classes, offering classes based on what your county is and how long the wait is. As of July, I think it’s July 31st, but it might be July 1st. That’s when that new law goes into effect that you have to have the… Eight-hour course plus, on top of that, you’ve got to shoot, you’ve got to pass a test, and qualify, right? It’s never been that here before, but it is now. A lot of states have had that for a long time. Like, I know in North Carolina they do that, right, or did that. But now they have constitutional carry there, so, you know. Different story. They went the other way. We went this way. They went that way. But, yeah, so if that’s something that you’re wanting to do, looking to get, I would strongly advise doing it. I mean, I don’t know if you know, but crime is way up here in this state. So it’s a good idea to be carrying a firearm right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no doubt. Jake Salthouse is our guest. It’s Green Mountain Guns, 3355 South Yarrow Street. In Lakewood, hey, they do it all. Typical things you hear, buy, sell, trade, consign. Hey, if you’ve got a gun collection and maybe you’ve got a few guns that you’re just not using anymore and, hey, you want to sell those, they can help you out as well. And a couple of different programs you offer there on that end, the consignment part, and I’ll let you explain how that works, and then just a straight buyout. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. So we’ll start with consignment, right? We’ve been doing that for years. We’re one of the few shops still doing it around. But let’s say you got a gun and you no longer want that gun, right? You want to sell it. You want to upgrade to the next new thing. Bring it in. We’re happy to take it on consignment for you. Once it sells, we’ll write you a check. There you go. Pretty self-explanatory on that end. Now, let’s say you have a big collection of firearms, more than one, right? And I’ll buy one gun. It doesn’t matter. Let’s say you need money now, right? Bring that gun in. I’ll buy it today. I’ll write you a check.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Obviously, there’s going to be a little bit different price range on what we give.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you don’t know how long you’ll have it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. I don’t. And how long versus how long I’m going to have to tap my money up into it to sell it, that sort of thing. But, again, we’re very transparent on all that. We’ll explain it to you and give you both options for buy and consign. But let’s say for the person that has… 50 guns, 100 guns, and they’re like, I have nobody that wants these to will them down to, so on and so forth. I’ve got to get rid of them. Give us a call on that. We will come out to wherever you are, go through, evaluate each firearm, grade it, and then we’ll get on to the blue book of gun values and current market, so gun broker, arms list, those kind of sites. Find out what a good retail price would be for that. And then based on that, we say, okay, this is how much we can give you for it. And we’ll write you a check and buy all of it at once. And that’s not just guns, right? That’s if you have safes, if you have ammo, it’s a one-stop. Easy peasy, you get a check today and I get it all out of your hair, right? Right. And that’s kind of how that works.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it’s a lot better to do it that way, man. The last thing you want to do is put someone on social media, hey, I’m selling guns at my house, come by.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don’t advise that at all, 100%. You’re going to, yeah, that will end badly. Yeah. So that’s the best way to do it. If you have one gun or 100 guns, doesn’t really matter. I’m here to help you in any way I can, whether that’s buy… sell, trade, consign, whatever you want to do. We’re here to help you with that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, I noticed when I walked in the door, you’ve got some bulk ammo up front. It looks like some 9mm.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, I do. I have actually a lot of… I got a pallet the other day of 9mm, so we’ve got a really good deal on it. I got a good deal on it. and was able to get it at a really good price, and I’m passing that savings on to all of our customers. So right now you can come in, get a 1,000-round case of CCI 115 Blazer Brass for $299. Wow, okay. Cheapest we’ve had it in a long time because prices got inflated during COVID. And just now are we starting to see, even with all these tariffs and everything, kind of a reprive on prices.
SPEAKER 07 :
our cost on on ammo so i was able to get a full pallet which is 100 cases of a thousand rounds which is a lot of ammo i was able to get it at a really good price so i’m passing that on to you guys cool and they got hey they got a great selection of other ammo and calibers and all so you just need to come by the store and take a look and uh just about anything you need they don’t have it they can get it so uh just come by and see them once again at green mountain guns 3355 south yarrow street Now, we’re going to be running a little special here between now and July 4th. Yep. Tell us about that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, so this is really for all of your listeners. We’ve been on the radio with you for a number of years now. A number of years, yeah. And so I’m going to run a few different specials from now until the 4th of July. And then, of course, 4th of July, the week of the 4th of July, we do a huge sale. So it’s worth coming and checking out during that time. But from now until then, if you come in and you say, I heard you on Sportsman of Colorado. Okay. I’m going to give you 10% off anything in the store, right? Doesn’t matter what it is. That includes consignments. And we’re probably losing a fair amount doing that.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you’re going to include consignments? I will. Because you just told me this morning. Now you weren’t going to include. So you’re really going to give them a good deal? Yeah. This is a good deal. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m going to do it. And the reason we’re doing that is… honestly with everything the turmoil everything that’s going on in our state right now what i want to do is i want to i want to get as many people armed as i can before where i’m not able to anymore you know man absolutely all right hey but here’s the key you gotta mention sportsman of colorado radio all right and that’ll be going on from now to july 4th and um
SPEAKER 07 :
As Jake mentioned, hey, as far as guns, you know, maybe you’ve got a gun you’re not using anymore. Maybe you do want to upgrade, or maybe you just, hey, that caliber’s not for you. Bring it by. Let them throw it on consignment here. And I’m telling you, you never know, you know, how long. We can’t promise you a certain amount of time it’ll turn, but I’m telling you, I’ve done this through the years with them. and rarely has something taken more than you know a few weeks to sell i mean most time it’s pretty quick especially you know if it’s a a good gun so uh hey bring it by and let them know again you heard them here on the show but now july 4th 10 off and you may say what’s 10 you know you see ads 30 40 off you gotta understand the margins on guns and new guns especially uh very slim yeah okay yeah so 15 if we’re being honest so so given 10 off so a really, really good deal. Yeah. And like I say, great selection of ammo as well. One thing I wanted to touch on today for sure is that NFA process suppressors, different things, man, have we seen a huge turn in that? Because I mean, I’m telling you, I have never waited less than a year and sometimes 15 to 16 months in the past to Now we’ve sped that up a bunch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, man. It’s like the one good thing we’ve had going here lately is how fast NFA turnarounds are right now. And it does vary still. But most all approvals on suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, all that that we’ve been doing, I’m seeing them come back within a matter of days. Wow. I think the longest wait we’ve had recently was three weeks. So, I mean, I know, me like you, I’ve had NFA items for a very long time. Sure. And I remember when we were back on the paper system, right? first suppressor I ever got, I waited 16 months for, uh, and I was really happy when it came through. Uh, but now it’s like, people don’t even understand what we went through back in those days, you know? Uh, and they’re getting them in three or four days. And, and in some cases, which is really funny just between you, me and the fence post and everybody’s listening. But, uh, You know, we have this three-day wait in Colorado, right? Well, I’ve had people come in, buy a suppressor, and get it back. Get it before they get the approval on the gun? Yeah, get it back before they’re able to pick up the actual gun that they’re getting, which is crazy to me. But, you know, NFA is exempt from that three-day wait. That’s kind of a cool thing going on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let’s explain the process a little bit. Let’s say we’ll take two individuals. The person that has never bought a suppressor, they walk in your doors. How do you help them?
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s totally fine. We will walk you through that process entirely when you come in. So we are powered by Silencer Shop Dealer. So we do have a kiosk here in store that we can do everything right here. It takes about 45 minutes. So if you’re planning to do that, just be sure you plan to… Allow a little time. Yeah, allow a little time, especially if we’re busy. It may take a little bit longer, but… When you come in, we will help you say, okay, I want to get a suppressor, don’t know what I want. We decide that. We get that figured out, what’s going to work best for you and your needs, right? Then we have the kiosk here to be able to do build your silencer shop profile. then take your fingerprints right here on location, take your photo, upload that to Silencer Shop, then we will help you with your ATF e-forms and building that account, making sure that that matches exactly to your Silencer Shop profile, and then assigning that suppressor to you, helping you buy your tax stamp, and then certifying that form. Really, we can do it just about same day. Sometimes you have Silencer Shop, you know, they have to review documents or whatever, and it takes… 24 hours to get all that if you’re a first-time buyer but even even even so it’s very quick very easy and we do it all right here in-house we can help you through the whole process and kind of walk you through what to expect and what to do right now you can do this as an individual or you can do what has been going through the last few years as a trust trust yeah are you seeing any thing one way or the other for folks putting it in as individuals or folks putting as a trust coming back sooner so it was for a while uh that if you put in as an individual it was going much faster than like your typical trust would or a single shot trust there’s multiple different types of trusts now but let’s say you’re you’re decide you want to do a trust because that’s honestly the smart way to do it all right um if you do a trust Honestly, the weight now is exactly the same. It used to be if you did individual, it was a couple days quicker. But you’re only talking about a couple days back then anyways. But right now, it doesn’t matter if it’s a trust or individual. It’s going through. I mean, like I said, the longest weight we’ve had in the past three or four months has been three weeks. Right. It’s super fast.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow. Now, for the person that’s in the silencer shop system. Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
little bit quicker process yeah so if you’ve already done all that you just come in tell me what you want we’ll pick it out get it paid for and get it assigned to you and and if you’re up to date and current and all your your photos are good and and up to date uh and let’s say you have a trust that’s all up to date right right um you more than likely will get out of here in 15 minutes with everything assigned certified and done gotcha gotcha
SPEAKER 07 :
Folks, it’s Green Mountain Guns. And, hey, if you haven’t been in in a while, highly recommend you do. It’s 3355 South Yarrow Street in Lakewood. What are your hours?
SPEAKER 16 :
Right now, Monday through Friday, we are open 11 to 6. And then on Saturday, we are 11 to 4. 11 to 4. Sunday, we are closed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sunday, you’re closed. As you should be. Get some rest. Well, Jake, thanks for having us out. And folks, get by. Don’t forget, now 10% off everything. No exclusions, okay? Now through July 4th. But you’ve got to mention Sportsman of Colorado. They’re not going to bring it up. You’ve got to bring it up. So just mention Sportsman of Colorado Radio, and we’d appreciate that as well. So, again, Jake, thanks for having us out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, thank you, Scott.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
You’re listening to KLZ 560, your home station.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back to the show and thank you so much for being with us. Well, you’ve been hearing about these folks for a number of months now. And, hey, we’re going to continue on through the year because we want to keep everybody abreast of what’s going on with the Colorado Gun Collector Association and all they have to offer. And, hey, how do you become a part of them? And just to learn some cool stuff about some guns and other items, which we have learned, it’s not just guns. And our guest, once again, is Tom Hillman. Tom was the former president for the Colorado Gun Collector Association. Tom, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. I’m happy to be back, Scott. Where were they getting excited? Because we’ve got the big gun show coming up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Man, I tell you what, you know, time is so weird. I mean, we were talking about it, and it was five months away, and now four, and then three. Now we’re a week away.
SPEAKER 15 :
We’re a week away. The one thing we make sure is we never mess with Mother’s Day. Yes. We’re the weekend always after Mother’s Day.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is a smart man right there. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
We all gain a little knowledge with experience, don’t we?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Yes, sir. And now, I was asking you before we came on air here how booth sales were going. And, man, you think you’re going to have over 700?
SPEAKER 15 :
We’re going to have right about 700. Wow. And that’s various booths. And that’s always a little subject to change. Don’t please come in and start counting because some guys’ cars break down, somebody has a health issue, and we try to work with our dealers. Right, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
So how would you divide it? Is it basically like three categories? And I’m just trying to go back from memory here of the conversation we had. Kind of historical type items? Antique? Antique.
SPEAKER 15 :
And then collectible? Curio and Relics. Okay. All right. As well as collectible.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you got to remember this particular organization we belong to is what started back in 1964. Wow. And this is our 59th annual show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Man, I was six years old. Well, I was a little older than that. All right. Hey, this is May 17th and 18th. It’s at the Island Grove Event Center in Greeley. The hours are going to be Saturday 9 to 5, Sunday 9 to 3. Folks, it’s only $15 for entry, and that’s for both days. And then, and we’ll mention this again, but then I want to mention you were telling me about a pass for $75. And what does that do for you?
SPEAKER 15 :
If you wish to get into early entry, Friday is a day where the dealer’s just set up. But there is a special pass available for $75 for those that feel they want to get in there and get the first look at everything. Okay. That is available, too. Right. And that’s just… But it’s a great show for everybody. And the thing we always like to say is we go weapons from medieval, the Revolutionary War, Civil War, the Wild West, World War I, World War II, memorabilia, and weapons. And we just cover this whole width and breadth that you don’t get to see. We are the largest antique and collectibles gun show in this state and in this Rocky Mountain area. Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you’ve got folks that travel from what would be some distances away.
SPEAKER 15 :
Texas, East Coast, West Coast, not as much as it used to be, changing values there. But we’re always glad to see these folks, you know. They come in, you get to see stuff you will not see at any other show in this area.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that’s for sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that’s what kind of part of the fun is. And, you know, we mentioned the $15 for the two days, which I feel is a great value compared. What was it, $120 for the nosebleed section for the Nuggets game? Oh, I’m sure, yeah. Yeah. And I’ll tell you one other little thing we forget to mention sometimes, and that’s free parking. Okay. So come on up. And, you know, it really is a wonderful little city.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we often suggest, as you know, this is something where the ladies enjoy it, too, because they get to see some things they don’t see anywhere else. And they have some interesting items from foreign countries. But, you know, there’s a pretty good restaurants and a little night scene and a couple breweries and a distillery up there. Right. So, you know, come on up. Go to the show first. And then, you know, if you want to spread out and treat someone, it’s a great time to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And under that roof will be a lot of knowledge about guns and different things, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
And, you know, Scott, I just made a real short list if I can run through it. Absolutely. And why somebody should come to this show. And, you know, again, I go back to the fact that this is the largest historical and collectible show in the Rocky Mountain area. That’s not only 700 tables, but they’re 8-foot tables. And for those who may not get this distinction, a lot of shows will claim they have a 6-foot table instead of an 8-foot. So they can get more in there. But this is a wonderful, clean facility, easy parking. We just try to make it as simple and as easy for folks and families to come as possible. And, you know, it’s a great learning experience. These little kids have heard from their dads and their grandpas and the stories that are out there. Now they can come and actually see what they were talking about. It was this type of a thing that was used. You hear about Western history. Well, these are the guns, the knives, the swords that were all used out here. There will be a certain amount of Native American items, which we definitely consider part of that Wild West as we’re going through it. And, you know, it’s wonderful knowledge to pass on. And let me mention one more thing about admissions. Children 12 or younger are free.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, you know, I’m sure some people will cringe when I call this a family event. No, but it really is. It really is. They can go through there and they can learn things that they’re not going to learn or see anywhere else. And so I think that’s another reason. One thing that we have for folks is they can bring in grandpa’s or dad’s old gun or old sword or old knife. And, you know, they can get it looked at by folks. Uniforms and insignias, another thing. You know, if this is things you don’t want around the house anymore, refer it to a location. Maybe use it for part of a vacation or something. Because, you know, we can get this stuff looked at, identified. There are dealers there who are going to make cash offers if you want to sell it. So that’s another reason they come in there. Our dealers will buy, and they’re able to buy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Now, if folks want to bring a firearm, I assume there’s someone at the door checking that stuff. Absolutely. Do you like for them to have them in some type of case, or is that required?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, they’re going to need to get it out. Okay. But before they go in, they have to, of course, purchase our admission. Right. But then they go to a table. The gun is thoroughly checked to make sure there is no ammunition in that gun. And the gun at that time, there is a restrainer put on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
So somebody can’t go in, load a shell, and shoot it off in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
We’ve got a marvelous safety record. We’re very proud of that, and we want it to continue.
SPEAKER 07 :
Once again, it is May 17th and 18th. It is the Colorado Gun Collector Association show. It is at the Island Grove Event Center in Greeley. Once again, the hours are Saturday 9 to 5, Sunday 9 to 3, $15, your two-day pass. If you want to get in for those extra early time, there’s a $75 pass available. And as Tom just mentioned, hey, great event for the whole family.
SPEAKER 15 :
And, you know, Saturday we’re trying something new also where we’re going to have some short seminars going on during the day, which will be announced. We have certain people who are just going to go up and bring different things out to show. And you see a lot of unusual and strange things at this show you won’t see at the normal gun show. And, you know, as we look at this, it’s actually a little travel around the world, Scott, as we look at it. Because I know last year I was trying to think, and we saw weapons not only from the U.S., but we saw weapons from Europe, Japan, the Philippines, India, the Arabian Peninsula, Africa, Australia, Russia, and so many other countries and areas. And, again, it’s a little bit of eye-opening how different people looked at things and did them. And one last little perk, if I could put in here. Sure. If you are a member of the military, if you show your military ID or if you are a member of law enforcement, you know, and you wear your uniform, you get free admission.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that’s cool.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because we love our servicemen and our law enforcement folks. And we always stand behind them and… Do something for them once in a while for all they do for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Well, it’s going to be a great couple of days, and, hey, you need to be there. So save the date now, May 17th and 18th. Once again, Island Grove Events Center in Greeley. All right, we’ve got a couple more minutes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let’s talk about the— Well, let me throw one last thing on the end here that we just wanted to mention, and we’ll go back to the show again. But, you know, as a final kind of note here, we’re asking everybody to please support your local organization of your choice, whether you are a hunter, a sport shooter, a collector of historical arms, you know. And we need these organizations are going to start trying to fight and help our rights. And we need to get this because we do have misguided and intentional laws out there, very frankly, to restrict what people can do, and it is. So, again, we do urge everybody to, if you feel strongly about this organization, I don’t care if you’re Republican or Democrat. Support the individuals who support our hunting, our shooting. Support the organizations which are fighting to keep those things for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. Great point. Great point. But let’s talk a little bit about the association itself and who makes a good member for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anybody who’s interested in historical arms is a good member for us. We meet basically 10 months a year. where we have a meeting on the third Tuesday of every month. And essentially we go in, we show different things, new and unusual things that our members may have found. They give a short little talk on that. And then we have every meeting, we do have somebody do a presentation. Our last one was on Western revolvers called Mervyn and Holberts, which are maybe not famously known, but we enjoy it. We had another time where we had a young man who was working on his master’s degree give us a talk on Lynn Lees during World War II. Wow. And just all these little historical things. So I think in many ways the shooters, the historians are the folks that really seem to enjoy us because you get into all these little oddball cartridges, how this functioned, how that worked. Engineers might like us. Right, right, right. This is a time of wonderful machinery and workmanship on things. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
So how’s the best way for somebody to get a hold of you guys, you know, to see if they maybe want to think about becoming a member?
SPEAKER 15 :
Go into the online CGCA show is what we’re under. Go in, and there will be a name there where you can call and set this up, and we’ll be happy to let you come in and come to a meeting.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Good deal.
SPEAKER 15 :
And see if you like it or not.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you know what? Meet some great folks and make some new friends. That’s always a good thing. And a ton of like-minded.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. And we don’t have a meeting go by if somebody doesn’t bring something and says, what is this? Right. And everybody’s trying to help them out. And, you know, the ex-military is another great part of our membership. I would say probably 60% of our members have done military service. Right. But anybody who has interest. in these time periods. And guns have always been a part of America. Sure, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they need to continue. Yes, sir. For sure. Well, Tom, thanks so much. Man, I can’t wait for the show. I’m going to be out there as well. It’s the Island Grove Event Center, May 17th and 18th in Greeley. Once again, Saturday 9 to 5, Sunday 9 to 3. $15 gets you in for both days. There’s a special pass for $75 that’ll get you in the door a little early there. So you can check things out, but antique, collectibles, all kinds of cool stuff. And, hey, go check it out. It’ll be really cool. Bring the family. Something different. All right? And it’ll be a lot of fun. So, Tom, we appreciate it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, and thank you, folks, for listening.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thank you. Thanks for being with us today. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Leave it right here on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 14 :
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