Join us on the Kim Monson Show as we dive into the pressing issues of our time, from the socialization of key sectors like transportation and energy to the current geopolitical tensions involving Iran and Israel. Our host, Kim Monson, navigates these complex topics through the lens of freedom versus force, offering clarity and insightful perspectives. Guest Dave Evans joins us to discuss the significance of patronage boards and their impact on local governance, inviting listeners to consider the future of policy and political transparency.
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The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it’s actually tapping down the truth.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. Seems like it was just Monday.
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It really does. It’s been flying by this week.
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Time flies when you’re working hard, right?
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That’s right. And think about this. We’re going to be in 4th of July here soon.
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I know. And we’re going to be pre-recording those shows. It’s going to be a blend, I think, Joe, because we knock ourselves out so that we can take a few days off and sleep in a little bit. But we’ve got some great shows that we’ve had from the past. So I think we’ll do a blend. We’ve already got some things on schedule to record, but it’s going to be a great week. And you and I are going to, I can’t believe, in a way it’s coming early for us because the 4th of July, I think it’s on a Friday. So it’ll be that week before. So that means our 4th of July starts a week from Monday, if you can believe it.
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That’s crazy. I didn’t think about it that way.
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Yeah, well, we got a little work to do.
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Yes, ma’am, we do.
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But we’re on it. We are on it. So check out the website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Make sure that while you’re there, down at the bottom of the website, you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter. We only normally send… one email a week and that’s on Sundays every once in a while there might be something special important that we might send a second but we promise that we will really respect your email inbox and so sign up for that weekly email newsletter so you can first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate. And it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can be a weapon, but it can be more sinister in a way with policy. and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda, which is to put us all just on top of each other, and the globalist elites also, and just put us in… very dense housing and prevent us from having vehicles to be able to have freedom of mobility. That’s really what they’re looking at. In a way, it’s boundaries on your life, and that’s what they are focusing on. And so we’ll talk a little bit more about what’s happening out in Lakewood. But they play this out through the United Nations. This Colorado legislature, you’re seeing it with the Lakewood City Council, the Colorado governor, and they use land use codes and zoning regulations and forced fees and all that kind of stuff. So we are we are on it because owning property, the right to own property, both physical or tangible property and intangible property property. is inherent in the American idea. Now, on the show, we work diligently to focus on the issues, and we’ll mention the people pushing the issues, but we really work to stay out of the whole personality kind of stuff on that. The show does come to you 6 to 8 a.m., Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That’s on all these KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And it is Wednesday, so that means that it is Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. And they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And really great specials. Kurt Gerwitz is going to be in studio on Friday. And normally, he and I will go over to Hooters and take advantage of their lunch specials. So be sure and check that. That out. Our word of the day, and Richard the limo guy, you probably know this word, but maybe I might stump you because I stumped some of my neighbors with this word the other day, and that is cudgel. And it’s C-U-D-G-E-L, and it could be a short, heavy stick or a club. Number two, it could be a staff used in cudgel play, shorter than the quarterstaff and wielded with one hand, hence any heavy stick used as a weapon. Or number three, a fight or a sportive contest with cudgels. And I was using it in the first definition of a short, heavy stick, a club. And I said, I was talking about this whole climate narrative on climate change. And it’s being used as a cudgel to gain more and more control over our lives. And so your challenge will be to use the word cudgel in a sentence today. And Jody Henzey with Mint Financial Strategies, we normally talk to her on Monday mornings. She’s really great at using the word of the day in a sentence. So that will be her challenge today. Jody Henze, the challenge is on. Our quote of the day is from Albert Einstein. And hold on here. I thought I had his short little bio up here. Instead, I put the quote of the day twice on my little outline here. He was born in 1879. He died in 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist who is best known for developing the theory of relativity. And he also made important contributions to quantum mechanics. And he said this. He said, the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it. I thought that was very telling. So that is our quote of the day. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. I really appreciate them, and we’ll be getting Susan Harris on the show here very, very soon. One of the first headlines is this whole thing going on with Iran and Israel. And this is from the Daily Caller. It says, Trump is mulling an Iran strike ahead of high-stakes Situation Room briefing as he says he knows where the Ayatollah is hiding. Now, I was looking at these headlines last night. I don’t know if something has changed on that. I know that we’re all on the edge of our seats. We really don’t want to get involved in this war. It is a war now. So that’s one of the important headlines. I did get a call from someone who’s very much in the know. And he said this, he said, you’re bound to be talking about Iran on your program sometime in the next few days. He says, one thing that’s very important, most people don’t even know anymore, up until the summer of 1978, Iran was a very strong ally of the United States. And it was in 1978 that everything changed. And my colleague said that he had a friend that was very involved over there. And he had told my friend personally that he had been called by Jimmy Carter. and to go tell the Shah to resign. And that’s when everything changed. And so Jimmy Carter did a number of really terrible things, I think, from a public policy standpoint. And I remember a story about Iran that was one of their sporting teams. I want to say maybe there were soccer team and it was on an international stage and they did not do well and they basically disappeared. And it is a regime that is so heavy handed with their people. And so they not only want to be heavy handed with their people, they want to be heavy handed with the rest of the world and they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. And that’s going to be a problem because clearly they do not want to coexist. And we got to figure out ways to be able to work together. Right, Joe?
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You’re absolutely right. I think we should take the same idea that we did in World War II. We’re not in it until we’re brought into it.
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Well, I sure hope that we can get this done without us getting brought into it because war is a terrible thing. And anyone that has been in combat, they know it is something that we would like to avoid at all costs. However, it has to be peace through strength. I did find this really interesting, though, as I was delving into this a bit more because there’s so many different headlines out there. This, again, is from the Daily Wire. And you probably know this, Joe, but it says a fake Israeli phone call triggered a meeting of Iranian leaders. Then Israel targeted the meeting location. And so this is the way that they were able to take out many of the top military leaders. So they’re probably getting down to the Ayatollah at this particular point in time, right, Joe? I know you’re watching this a little closer than I am.
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That’s what I heard. I heard that they got a lot of the top brass as well as several nuclear scientists and a nuclear facility.
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That’s pretty significant. And Trump had said that we – and the thing with the nuclear facility is they basically haven’t been telling the truth. They’ve been saying that it’s for nuclear energy when – It looks like they were, whatever you do with uranium, to get it to a point where it could be a nuclear bomb. And that’s not okay to have the crazies like that have a nuclear bomb. So I know we’re all on the edge of our seats. Is this World War III? We sure hope not. And boy, I would not like to be facing all the stuff that Donald Trump is right now. So we need to really be praying for him, for wisdom and discernment and for our world. And so that’s really important. Next thing. I think that we should all really be concerned, and not that she’s going to listen much, but the fact that Colorado Secretary of State has suspended access to the state election tracer site is – and they do this because of the shootings up in Minnesota. I’m not sure how I see that they’re really connected, that you take down all of the information, all of the transparency about elections – I don’t quite get it. And so I think they need to put that all back up. So that’s one thing. And then also Karen Gorday was on the show on Monday. And she has written a very important piece. And it’s at the Lakewood Informer. And you may say, well, I don’t live in Lakewood, so why does this matter to me? It matters because they want to export this to other municipalities as well. And it’s titled… sorry about that, zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. And each of you need to be informed on this. So again, it’s a very important piece by Karen Gorday. Check that out at the Lakewood Informer. These discussions are so important so that we look at these from a reasoned standpoint and understand what’s going on, talk with our neighbors, persuade them to continue to want to reclaim our liberty, our responsible exercise of freedom. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team understands there are unknowns that can keep you up at night. That is why Roger Mangan can also help with life insurance and health insurance needs to replace lost income. So call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan’s insurance team is there.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I did want to mention Mint Financial Strategies because you may want more freedom and confidence with your money. And Mint Financial Strategies can help. They’re an independent firm with over 25 years of experience. And as an accredited investment fiduciary, they put your best interests first, always. With a strategy-first approach, they’ll help you build a plan. that fits your life. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That number is 303-285-3080. Pleased to have on the line with me Dave Evans. He is a listener of the show and he volunteered to join us as a board member the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And I think all of my board members will agree what a gem he is. We are so thrilled to have him join us. And he’s on the line. Dave Evans, welcome.
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Well, good morning, Kim, and thank you. I’m flattered with the compliments you’re giving me.
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Well, it’s been really impressive with you coming on the board. And I do want to give a quick shout out to our fellow board members, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, you. dave evans uh corey on his org paula beard and ray beard and this is a really amazing group of all volunteers that have spent significant time throughout the legislative session taking a look at bills we had there was 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced just this legislative session and our team took positions on 261 of them And really the things we look at is protecting the taxpayer, protecting TABOR, which is Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, property rights, school choice, elections. We do look at things on elections. So very important. And we’d love to have people join us. It’s only $25 a year, $2.08 a month, which is less than a Starbucks coffee, a little bit more than a McDonald’s coffee. But you will be informed, and it’s a great tool in your toolbox. So Dave Evans, with all that, you had taken a look at some of this legislation that set up patronage boards. So explain what a patronage board is to our listeners.
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Well, that’s a term that I use. Patronage is a political system of appointments. And government has expanded so much that it’s become a practical necessity that these boards have been set up in order to govern all the various concerns that they have. It would just simply be impractical to have elected persons on these boards. And so in this case, most of these governing boards are appointed either by the governor or in some cases by the various agencies of the state government.
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And they’re unelected and they’re not accountable to the people.
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Exactly. They’re not accountable to the citizens. Plus, most of them are unpaid, which sounds great. And I think most of them have altruistic motivations. But there is still in all a risk of corruption because, you know, each one of these comes from their own specialized area of the economy. And, you know, they’re vulnerable to temptations. of that sort of thing. But of the bills that we reviewed, I counted 18 that were about boards, councils, or enterprises. Wow. Yeah. Eleven of these bills set up new boards. All of these were opposed by cut. Three of the bills extended boards that would have otherwise been sunset. Three of the bills expanded boards that were already existing, one of which was extended by, that was supposed to be sunset. One of the boards was a just in case of federal cutbacks act that gives unelected DORA, the Department of Regulations, authority to make rules about health insurance coverage. And one of the bills, H.R. 1027, actually ended a board. and that was the governor’s expert emergency epidemic response committee. It actually passed and was signed into law, although unfortunately it does nothing to limit the governor’s power in emergencies, which in my opinion was kind of abused.
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Yes, okay. Go ahead. No, continue on. This is amazing analysis that you’ve done on this, Dave.
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Okay. Estimated budgetary impact of the enacted bills, and this comes from the legislative estimates, $27 million per year with a negative impact to TABOR of $5 million. And by that I mean it would reduce TABOR refunds by $5 million. These numbers rely on $2 million in federal funding. And I have to wonder if that’s a good assumption. Many of these bills rely on gifts, grants, and donations. So the costs may actually go higher. Not necessarily in this year because the boards were formed on the basis that the gifts, grants, and donations would be sufficient. But in future years, if those donations dwindle off, The taxpayers are likely going to be on the hook for those. So out of the 18 that we reviewed, 12 of the bills were passed. And I wanted to go over one of them in a little bit more detail. And that’s 1198, House Bill 1198, entitled Regional Planning Roundtable Commission. This sets up a 15-member board in the Department of Local Affairs. Its objective is to assist local governments with statutory housing, land use, and other planning requirements. In other words, it helps the local government write rules and it helps them understand the rules that have been imposed from the state. The members in this case are appointed by state agencies. The board members are not compensated, and the board is expected to raise the funding through gifts, grants, and donations to pay for a state employee, plus whatever expenses the board might have. Their objectives, land use planning at local level, emphasizing environment, climate, affordable housing, access to public facilities and services. Cut’s view is that this is a state intrusion into local government and private enterprise business and we don’t believe that we need to spend $85,000 a year and one new full time equivalent employee to oversee and coordinate things that are under local jurisdiction. Additionally, The bill makes the board subject to, or rather the grants and donations make the board subject to influence. And the board objectives are clearly geared towards pushing things like 15 minutes, cities, public transit, and subsidized housing. And these are all things that we conservatives disagree with. And most of these boards are very much pushing left agenda items.
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You’ve really connected an important dot, and that is having this 1198 and the gifts, grants, and donations. What that means is that you’ve got a governmental entity. Of course, now it’s a board, so it’s not accountable directly to the people. And then you have special interests that can come in and fund it. What could go wrong with that picture, Dave Evans?
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yeah that’s my worry me too well dave evans your final thought on all this and again you do great analysis and we’re so pleased to have you as a member of the colorado union of taxpayers board well thank you very much kim um my final thoughts are um citizens need to be alert to this stuff and uh and uh raise raise issues with this and and um And then after these boards are enacted, keep tabs on what they’re doing and make sure that people are aware of that stuff outside of your area of influence.
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Well, and that’s why being a member of CUT, I think having CUT in your toolbox to be informed is one of the first steps on all that. And again, people can join us, Dave, at coloradotaxpayer.org. That’s coloradotaxpayer.org. Dave Evans, thank you so much. And we’re going to be working on our ratings report. We’re in the process. And that’s a lot of time and effort as well. But we are just really pleased to have you on the board. And I thank everyone for all of their hard work.
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Well, thanks, and thank you for allowing me on the radio show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And it is so important that we support the official Marine Memorial, which is right here in Golden, Colorado, because from our founding to now, people that have been willing to put their lives on the line or who have given their lives for our liberty, and liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom, we need to support them. A great way to say thank you is to support the Memorial Foundation. And again, that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is a fan favorite, and that is Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is the founder of IPAC-EDU. Dr. Jack, welcome to the show. Whoops. Oh, he fell off. Oh, we had him on. We’ll get him right back on here. While Joe is doing that, I will mention the Center for American Values, which is the other nonprofit that I feature on a regular basis on the show. The center is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk. And it’s nonpolitical. It’s nonpartisan. But it focuses on foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And they do that through their K-12 educational programs. They have On Values presentations down at the center on a regular basis. And then the amazing Medal of Honor portraits of valor. And so check that out. I’d really recommend that you get the kids in the car and go down and enjoy the Riverwalk in Pueblo and also the Center for American Values program. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And while Joe is getting Dr. Jack back on the line, one of our listeners, I was talking about Iran or Iran. The whole nuclear, the purifying uranium, I guess it was. And so our listener said uranium only has to be enriched to three to five percent purity level for nuclear electricity. And Iran has their uranium enriched to 60 percent. Hence, I think that’s the problem out there that they’re trying to address. Okay, Dr. Jack, Dr. James Linesweiler, I had you totally set up as a fan favorite, and then I threw it to you, and you were off the line. So it’s great to have you back.
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Yeah, speaking of electricity, my phone died. We’re on now. How are you?
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That’s good. That’s good. So first thing, IPAC-EDU.org, which you founded, it was during the whole COVID thing when you founded IPAC-EDU. And it is for people that are intellectually curious. And you offer these great classes with amazing instructors at a reasonable price. So just bring us up to date about IPAC-EDU before we get into this Bethesda declaration.
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Well, we teach courses on topics that, you know, for advanced learning for adults may never have a chance to enter college formally. So you can have the learning experience at that level. So you can empower yourself to handle the issues that matter to you today. We choose our courses and our instructors to make sure that the topics that are taught are relevant to issues that matter to us. For instance, you know, we have a workshop this summer on… informed consent, medical rights, and human rights. You know, I was just doing a little bit of research for a project. Under what conditions can the doctor overrule your choice to accept or deny a medical procedure or medicine? And it’s scary. There are four or five different ways that a doctor can say that you are not competent. not just because of, you know, mental disability or things like that, but also because, you know, you can’t state the benefits and the risks on the doctor’s terms and then say that you’ve made up your mind. Well, you know, people often go to the doctor. They want to make their decision. They want to make their doctor understand. I really don’t want all of this aluminum in my child in the first year of life or the first two years of life. Well, that doctor, according to the doctor, according to the doctrine of modern medicine, that’s that’s perfectly safe in vaccines to have so many doses, so many repeated doses of so much aluminum in vaccines. And yet we know that aluminum is neurotoxic. And so patients that actually engage with the doctor and say, hey, you know what, I’m going to explain to you why. And then he can put in his nose, this patient does not understand current medical consensus. Even though consensus is wrong, even though you might win the argument with your doctor, they might be able to overrule. So we really have to educate each other on these facts and how to act accordingly and which threads to pull on when it comes to medical freedom. But things like genetic testing, all the things that you might imagine, that big medicine might want to do to you about how do you, if you’re engaging with genetic testing, what kind of testing is most helpful to you? And I don’t mean which brand. I mean, what are they going to do with the information? So we’re really looking under the hood of how big medicine and science works. And we’re teaching the public on things like how to read and interpret scientific studies, immunology. You know, we just have a wonderful community wonderful collection of courses. And they last anywhere from, you know, eight weeks to 18 weeks. My biology of cancer course runs for, I think, 22 weeks. It’s the longest one.
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Wow. And what’s that website, Dr. Jack?
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ipac-edu.org.
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Okay, IPAC-EDU.org, and that stands for Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. Let’s get over here. You’ve been writing a lot, and people can find you at Substack under Popular Rationalism. But one of these articles that you recently had published back June 9th, was regarding, it says a rebuttal, it says reclaiming science, a rebuttal to the Bethesda Declaration and a defense of reform. And so bring us up to speed on this.
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Right. So a collection of anonymous people that say that they’re working at the NIH decided to take on the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., And Jay Bhattacharya, who’s the director of the NIH, Robert Kennedy Jr. is the secretary of Department of Health and Human Services. They claim that the way that they’re approaching running HHS and running NIH is dismantling science. What they really mean is that the revenue streams that they’re used to to do what they call science are being disrupted. Now, in terms of downsizing the government, in terms of, you know, taking people out that didn’t show up to work, you know, but one day a month didn’t do their jobs, really just didn’t care because it’s very difficult to get anyone removed from the big administrative government. And they were literally parasites on the federal budget. Those people are gone and they’re not going to be coming back. The people that are speaking out, I think, are afraid that the games that were played to go along to get along in the NIH, which means don’t ask tough questions, take shortcuts on ethics like Fauci and Collins, with Collins being the former NIH director, specifically coming out, for example, and saying that, well, we don’t need to have all three phases of studies for the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Let’s combine phase two and phase three. And then a week later saying that we’re not taking shortcuts. So the fact that they were saying that they’re not taking shortcuts means that cutting out the middle step where you actually learn the list of adverse events from the vaccines that are confirmed in the third step was not taking a shortcut. And so imagine that multiplied all across medicine now with this culture of, well, it’s good enough for government work. And that’s really what’s happening here. So they claim that, you know, guys like Bhattacharya, Jay Bhattacharya, who was a Stanford professor. Epidemiology, he created the Great Barrington Declaration that got everybody talking about maybe we shouldn’t vaccinate everyone, just the people that are at highest risk. It’s called risk stratified vaccination. They’re accusing him of injecting politics into science, when in reality, we’ve been fighting against the politics in science. You know, science is so politicized that people in different countries aisles of you know different allegiances with political party you can predict how they’re going to interpret a study i mean this is ridiculous what our job is to depoliticize science and we’re going to continue doing that we we’re we’re taking science out of the realm of politics and vice versa there’s a divorce going on and yet you know all of human endeavor there are some philosophers who say all human endeavor is political But science was a formal set of procedures that was established and set up by Western civilization mostly, specifically so that we can learn when we’re learning properly and learn when we’re fooling ourselves. And it’s like to say, okay, well, we’re actually going to have a political argument about how you’re going to do brain surgery. It’s ridiculous to politicize science and it’s dangerous to do that. If you start replacing the rules of science with all of the tricks of the trade of politics, then it’s like we’re all on this huge airplane flying through this high tech age and no one’s at the helm. There’s no pilot. This article takes down their arguments point by point. That’s a lot of what we do with popular rationalism. We state their arguments and we counter them and say no. the evidence does not support their claims about what’s actually happening.
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Well, and you do. You take it point by point. The first, as you’ve just talked about, the myth of political interference when politics already captured the science. And so this next one that you have, let’s actually go to break and we’ll come back and go through the next one. The peer review crisis, a broken process, not a sacred tradition. And very important that we have these discussions. And it happens because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Pleased to have on the line with me scientist Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is the founder of IPAC-EDU, which you can find more information about IPAC-EDU.org and their courses. You can find that at their website. And again, great courses for people that are intellectually curious. Dr. Jack, we’re talking about your article at popularrationalismatsubstack.com. And we’re talking about this Bethesda Declaration, which I first and foremost find it really interesting that it is anonymous. I feel like if you’re going to say something, put your name on it.
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Yeah, that’s perfect. fair fair game there was a group in in cdc during the dark ages when pharma ran the cdc they called themselves spider uh and they they let people know like robert kennedy jr and myself and others that they were there that they were trying to change the system from within but that they actually you know they put their head up from their desk their head would be chopped off okay and and This is how Fauci operated. He could reach anybody at any university. If you’re a young assistant professor during Ebola and you write a paper that says, hey, wait a minute, wastewater treatment for Ebola is not going to work because PCR has nonspecific binding, the primers in the PCR, and you’re going to overestimate Ebola. Your university, probably the research office, not your department chair, but maybe the dean of your division, you know, if you’re the dean of the School of Medicine, might get a phone call from Anthony Fauci himself saying, you got to get this lion’s wire creep under control or you’re going to lose all your NIH funding. All of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I hadn’t thought about it that way. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point. They weaponized it. I mean, when I went on a radio interview, I was no longer with the University of Pittsburgh. I went on a radio interview. in the Pittsburgh area, in the region. I think it was on a Friday with Hank Bauman. He was a great guy, a great radio host. And we were asked some tough questions about the Allegheny County Board of Health and HPV vaccine mandate. A week later, a surprise announcement that Paul Lafitte from Children’s Hospital Philadelphia was coming to the University of Pittsburgh and was going to be given an award. So this is what they do. It’s all theater. And then he was coming to find out, who is this guy? Is he still affiliated? What can we do about it? Wait a minute. Hang on. You’ve got the tendrils of pharma not just doing that, but you also have the 17 members of ACIP. If you want to understand what’s going on with the 17 members of ACIP that Bobby fired, these dismissed people are analyzed in exquisite detail at popularrationalism.com with all of the conflicts of interest. Every single one of them have conflicts of interest, some of them with four or five, six different vaccine makers. How in the world could they say, turn around now and say that Bobby is doing something other than putting science back into the process of evaluating vaccines if it wasn’t science before, right? If it was marketing, if it was literally like a marketing department for vaccine manufacturers, they would rubber stamp the vaccines. They would talk about safety after the vote. to approve it for recommendation. And then they would never question each other or challenge each other’s vaccines because, you know, how dare you question my vaccine? I’m going to turn around and have my guy back question yours.
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Interesting. What does ASIP stand for, Dr. Jack?
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It’s the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. This is the one that’s in many states. If you hear that a state has a vaccine mandate for school, many states have passed laws that If ACIP recommends it for children in general, then in a given state, like New York State or California, then it becomes a mandatory vaccine, perhaps without exemptions, to attend school. So when this committee approves of a new vaccine for the childhood schedule, they have the de facto power of writing new law by decree. That’s how powerful this committee was.
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So no wonder they’re a little frustrated with what RFK Jr. is doing. So let’s go over here to this next point in your article, a rebuttal to the Bethesda Declaration and a defense of reform regarding the peer review crisis.
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Okay, so listen, when I was a young assistant professor, I created a journal, Cancer Informatics. All of the cancer centers… in the United States and cancer researchers around the world were figuring out at the time how to use all this massive amount of information that more powerful computers could allow us to handle per unit time. And so this field of informatics came about. I helped create the field of bioinformatics as a graduate student. And so, you know, I recognized that there was a value to bring all of these different areas, like pathology informatics and medical, sorry, bioinformatics, cancer informatics, all of it under one umbrella journal, so that if somebody working in radiology informatics found a solution, it could be helpful for somebody, say, in nursing informatics, that they could talk to each other and they could learn, right? And you don’t ever see this in medicine. Well, this journal was so successful that the NCI director at the time, Andy von Eschenbach, brought me up on stage at a National Cancer Institute’s meeting with all the cancer centers, and basically announced that they should build a statue in front of the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute to me because of this journal. And this pissed off my supervisor, my immediate supervisor so much. He targeted me for the next two years for removal from the University of Pittsburgh. Just spite, just jealous. He’s one of these creatures that has too many elbows. Well, anyway, one of the things that I did in that journal was I made sure that the peer review was independent. that if somebody wrote a paper and the journal sent it out for peer review, that the person who was reviewing that paper had conducted no collaborations with the authors of those papers in the last five years. It’s truly independent. Well, that’s fair enough. There are hundreds and hundreds of people doing cancer research, thousands of people. Surely we can find someone that is expert in the field. Well, it’s the same thing in immunology. It’s the same thing in internal medicine. Anything like this, we can have independent peer review. The problem with HHS is they, as far as we can tell, conducted zero peer review whatsoever, certainly not independent, on things that were published by the scientists that worked for the government. So they would publish, say, in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, whatever narrative they wanted to publish. It was basically… opinion backed by data, but that’s not science. Science requires independent assessment. You have to be able to challenge the assertions of somebody that says, I’m a scientist, I found this, what do you think? And if you can’t challenge it, then I don’t even recognize it as science. It falls outside, it’s demarcated away. But yeah, peer review is supposed to be a sacred process by which we, you know, harden our steel in the fire right instead it’s back scratching cronyism you you give me a good review on your grant i’ll give you mine uh let’s not worry about reproducibility is this new i only want to look at things that are new because we already have one study in that well we don’t need one study we need actually like six or seven or eight studies on something And so people can weaponize all of this. They can say, well, it’s not that new. There’s already five studies. Knowing that you need eight or nine or 12 for a meta-analysis, for a summary, for a systematic review, and they can kill a paradigm within science by abusing the peer review process. And then, of course, well, that’s not how it’s done. This argument that, well, we’ve never done this before in science stops innovation. So peer review is actually backwards. And It’s supposed to be a sacred tradition, but it’s treated by these people as something that, oh, wait a minute, we don’t want anybody else looking at our stuff. We’re the cool kids in the club, you know, no girls allowed kind of mentality because we want to do things the way that we always have. And that’s over. The good news is because Bobby Kennedy is the director of HHS, because Jay Bhattacharya is the director of the NIH, because – Dr. Macri is the director of the FDA, and Oz is in charge of CMS. The era of narrative enforcement is now over. And one thing I wanted to say to your listeners is you’ll also find a stunning announcement by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reported on popular rationalism at Substack that no news article, no mainstream media, no legacy media reported But it really should take the breath away of every patient, every doctor, every administrator, every person involved in medicine in any way, especially across the governments and these agencies. Mr. Kennedy was on Fox News, and he said in response to one of the questions that we have an epidemic of immune dysregulation in the United States of America. That’s the sitting secretary of Health and Human Services declaring an epidemic. of immune dysregulation, where our immune systems are broken and not a peep. Can you imagine, you know, if the former HHS director, Becca, came out and declared an epidemic and nobody believed?
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, that is amazing.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s a bias entity we have to overcome big time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Hey, Dr. Jack, this has gone way too quickly. We only have a minute left. How do you want to wrap this up?
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Well, I hope everybody understands that, you know, we’ve created these courses for the public. Yeah, who wants to go to school in the summer, right? Nobody ever wanted to go to summer school. But we have a great time. We talk about current issues. You get to hang out with people that are similar-minded, similar interests, similar age group. Come on over to ipac-edu.org, find a course, sign up for it. If it doesn’t run right away, it’ll run in the fall. We’re building this community of really well-educated and empowered American citizens that know how to speak truth to power. They know where they stand on the facts because they’ve been taught so well. It is recently learned, which is important for people of a certain age. But, yeah, the participants just love it. They love the community. They love the instructors. So come on over and hang out with us. Tim, you have one of our classes, right?
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I have. I’ve taken a couple, and it is truly amazing. And, again, that’s ipac-edu.org. Dr. Jack, thank you so much. We’ll get you scheduled for next month sometime.
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Sounds good. Thanks so much.
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We try to stay out of that whole personality-fighting stuff. Our word of the day is cudgel. And it’s spelled C-U-D-G-E-L. It could be a short, heavy stick or a club. Number two, it could be a staff used in cudgel play, shorter than a quarter staff and wielded with one hand, hence any heavy stick used as a weapon. Or number three, a fight or a sportive contest with cudgels. And I had used it as I was working on something, kicking this idea around with my neighbors. regarding the climate change narrative has been used as a cudgel to control every aspect of our lives. And this is a good time to mention a climate conversation documentary. You can find that at aclimatconversation.org. You can watch it for free. It’s been shown on Newsmax a bunch of times. It is the project of Walt Johnson, geophysicist. He just wanted to have a thoughtful, reasonable conversation about this whole climate change narrative. Hence, he took money out of his own retirement to fund this documentary. And people have said it’s one of the best pieces that they’ve seen regarding this whole conversation. So, again, that’s at climateconversation.com. We also have done a number of great podcasts with scientists and experts. And so if you really want to get your brain around that issue, a climate conversation is the place to do it because they’ve been using this climate change narrative as a cudgel to control everything from our light bulbs to our stoves to our cars to our transportation, all of it. And so that is why it’s great to take a look at that. The movie there, the quote of the day is from Albert Einstein, and he was born in 1879. He died in 1955, and he was a German-born theoretical physicist who was best known for developing the theory of relativity. And he also made great contributions to quantum mechanics. And he said this. He said, the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it. And so that is why, first and foremost, we need to be informed about what is going on in our world. We need to – and it can be confusing. There can be a lot of chaos there. what is going on, all of the different headlines out there. But remember, our North Star is this vision of America, that all men are created equal with these, and when we say men, we mean human beings, all of us, all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so that’s what we need to protect. The Constitution was put in place to keep government in its proper role. It’s way out of its proper role. And I was thinking about all the debt. that we are incurring. We talk about the national debt on a regular basis and getting this national spending, this federal spending under control. Absolutely important. But my friends, we’ve got to roll up our sleeves on the local county, state level, these special districts. Yesterday when I was talking with Bob Boswell, who is the great sponsor of the show, CEO of Laramie Energy. And they are in the natural gas business out on the Western Slope. And we were talking about in this little town, Colburn, Colorado, they somehow talked themselves into voting to approve a bond for $70 million for a new school for, I think it was 250 students. And that works out to $280,000 per student. And that’s not even hiring a teacher, not one teacher. And Laramie Energy, because of the taxes that they pay, the fees, not exactly sure on the accounting on that, contributes significantly to the revenue out there in that little community. However, they still are going to have – and then the state had said they’re going to come in and pay for part of that school as well. And that’s one of the things that I think people look at. They say, oh, we’re going to get this free money – I have that in air quotes – free money over here. So let’s go ahead and approve this bond, not thinking about what that would do to their property taxes. And then the other thing, the cudgel of the polis administrative state and what they’re doing to try to – shut down or make it more difficult for oil natural gas producers and of course also coal they’re trying to make it more difficult for all those producers if those businesses go away who’s going to pay the taxes well that’s going to come down on the backs of all of the farmers and ranchers and people in that community so we talk about the national debt Okay, that’s a problem. But we’ve got to take a look at local and school district debt. And in last year’s Voter’s Guide, I took positions on a number of these different school districts and then was hoping that that could be a template for you if I didn’t have your particular school district on the Voter’s Guide to really understand why we need to be saying no to all of this new debt or extension of debt. And so not only at the national level, but at the local level as well, we are getting ourselves into a position where it will be very difficult. Well, what will happen is because of all these encumbrances that we, the property owners or the people of Colorado, have to pay off, means that we basically will be working, spending a lot of our time working to pay for government. So let’s get government back in its own proper role. Two things I wanted to mention is, well, just very quickly, I want to run through the headlines from the first hour. And this whole thing with Iran and Israel certainly has us on the edge of our chairs, hoping that we’re not into World War III, would really prefer the U.S. to stay out of it. And so anyway, it says Trump malls. This was from the Daily Caller. The Trump Mall’s Iran strike ahead of a high-stakes situation room briefing, as he says he knows where the Ayatollah is hiding. So that is of some concern. We had a friend of mine who’s a caller, and he had left a message that he knew personally that 1978 President Jimmy Carter, when I say knew personally, he had a friend who President Jimmy Carter knew. came in and said, hey, ask the Shah to resign. And up until 1978, Iran was much freer. It was much more prosperous. Everyday people were doing much better. Once that happened, the Ayatollahs came in. They became very heavy-handed with the people of Iran. And so Jimmy Carter was a big part of of now what’s happening with iran iran is trying to get to a point where they purify purify uranium so that they they’re getting into the levels of a nuclear weapons and that’s why all of this action is taking part right now in the middle east next thing colorado secretary of state General Griswold and her office has suspended access to the state election site, which we want that information. They should not be taking down any of that information. They said this is in light of the shootings in Minnesota, which is very tragic. However, that doesn’t mean because there’s shootings in Minnesota that we take down transparency about our elections in Colorado. Connect that dot. Something does not connect with that dot. Then also wanted to mention Karen Gorday’s article at the Lakewood Informer zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. Even if you don’t live in Lakewood, you need to understand what’s going on. And then lastly, I had not mentioned this in the first hour, but there was an AutoZone store that was totally ransacked in L.A. And when you look at the devastation, the job of the mayor and the police force is to protect people and property. They’re clearly not doing that. So then the governor should be doing that. He clearly is not doing that. So Trump steps in. I don’t like the idea of having federal stuff happening to be on the streets of our American cities. However… People need to be doing their job. Karen Bass needs to be doing her job as mayor of L.A. And Gavin Newsom needs to be doing his job as the governor of California. And when they don’t, it gets us into this situation. And I don’t like being in this situation. And I’m sure that Trent Luce will have some things to say about this as well. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team can create a personalized insurance plan to cover all your needs, from protection for your cars to your home, condo, boat, motorcycle, business, and don’t forget renter’s coverage. Contact the Roger Mangan team now at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan’s team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And wanted to say thank you to the Harris family. for their goal sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice on an independent station. That means we’re not coerced by any media, corporate media out there. And I have full editorial control on subjects and guests, and that is because we are independent. On the line with me is sixth-generation farmer and rancher, lives in Nebraska, and that is Trent Luce. Trent, welcome to the show. Hello.
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And yet you bring me on, even though you’re not forced to do so every week. Thank you, Kim.
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That is true. The discussions are always robust, I would say. First thing, I thought I saw something that there was a huge tornado in the sand hills of Nebraska the other day.
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I am not home. I have not been home since Sunday, but. Kelly told me that there was 77 minutes of severe weather on the ground near Maxwell and in the south of North Platte area, just to give people a better idea. It must have been extremely severe, but I have not been able to monitor how bad the damage was.
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Okay. I grew up in Kansas. I have great respect for tornadoes. Of course, the Wizard of Oz. I totally respect all that. Seventy-seven minutes of severe weather does a tremendous amount of damage out on the plains. So next thing I wanted to get into, you sent this over, and that is that Trump is promising farmers that changes are coming to immigration crackdowns. So I know that there’s been some real problems with that. So what’s your thoughts on this?
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Since you and I started talking about this probably 30 days ago, the severity of it has just only grown. Last week, ICE went into several places, and I guess they still have a goal of more than 3,000 people a day that they want to round up. But this is rippling through. And the people that are legal, I’m just going to reemphasize something we’ve talked about. People that are here legally can prove that they’re here legally are not showing up to work because they’re scared. They are literally scared. And I happen to be in Montana this weekend. It’s interesting. I come up here. And literally been here since Sunday, and I’m talking to people with the same exact experiences all over. And you see in that piece that they’re going to continue to ramp up raids, like happened in an Omaha packing plant last week, and detained 76 people. And then Stephen Miller, who just within the last two weeks, I’m not sure what his role is in the Trump administration. He’s certainly somebody. He had point blank said, and I could go find the exact quote when and where it was, that farmers shouldn’t worry about labor problems. We’re going to have everything automated and you’ll have robots and AI will do it all. That is not going to take place in the agricultural world. We still need human ingenuity and intelligence to take care of the resources and get the job done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we do. And let’s see, he’s a senior aide to Donald Trump. This is Stephen Miller and deputy chief of staff and Homeland Security advisor. But there really has been and there’s been real pushback on what this is doing. And my understanding is, is they’re reassessing this. the workers in the farming and ranching communities, hospitality communities. But we need to get to a point where we have legal immigration. We do want to get rid of, send back, first of all, all of the criminals to where they came from. We don’t need to import criminals. We’ve got enough of our own. And then a guest worker program and was talking with someone the other day on the show regarding the Bracero program, which was after World War II. So we’ve got to get to a legal remedy to this whole thing, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree 100%. But the way that they’re handling it is not going to achieve that, because what we’re doing is scaring off people to show it up to work. And this didn’t just happen. I think what frustrates me the most about the rhetoric, not only from Trump administration, but everybody who talks about this, they want to blame Biden for everything. Biden was a zero. Well, I like to do that, too. Yeah. But, Kim, there were 12 million illegal people in this country when Donald Trump was president last time. And that didn’t happen on his watch. It’s been happening for a long period of time. And all of a sudden now it all just happened during this Biden 12 year period or excuse me, four year period that that we went from 12 million to whatever it was. And that was because it was in our face. We were told we’re giving them money. We were giving them money. We’re paying. They’re giving them cell phones. We’re creating hotels and we’re turning beautiful hotels into warehousing the illegals. All of that is absolutely wrong. But it didn’t just start with Biden. It’s been a problem for quite some time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I agree with that. And the strategy, I think – and again, it’s happened under both Republican and Democrat administrations. And I’ve heard that those previous administrations, that the Chamber of Commerce had put pressure on them and typically – The prevailing opinion, anyway, is that the Chamber of Commerce would lean more Republican, but yet they put pressure on politicians and bureaucrats, and they would be the interested party, to wink-wink the other way on these $12 million that had come in because it was providing cheap labor for businesses. and undercutting the American worker, but then you can take that thread and you can move that to a point where you get that labor has become so expensive in the United States because of maybe union policies, taxes fees out here in colorado we’ve got the family leave thing the the costs of that and so there’s been things that have made labor so expensive so it’s it’s a it’s a web that as i agree it’s been woven for a long time but you go from 12 million estimates are 18 30 million after biden another 18 million coming in in four years That changes population, which then could change the makeup of voting for congressional seats. All of it, it’s a web that has really been created, and I would say from both sides of the aisle, for a number of years, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
This in no way, shape, or form should change voting because those people are not eligible to vote.
SPEAKER 13 :
But they’re using population numbers is the problem.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. They’re not. I don’t know what that means.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, so the House of Representatives in Congress, that is apportioned regarding population.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, you can’t count illegals in the reapportionment for House districts. But I think they don’t. But that’s not legal. That’s not constitutional to do that.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s not. But I think that it’s occurring now.
SPEAKER 12 :
We’ve been gerrymandering districts for quite some time. But everybody, in my opinion, is trying to make this far too complicated. The fundamental problem is Americans who are legal citizens, too many of them are getting a payment instead of working. We’ve suddenly become whatever it takes to just get paid. We don’t want to show up to work. I’ve been in three restaurants where I’ve had this discussion here in Deer Lodge, Montana, this week. In order to get somebody to come in every day that they’re on the schedule and work and do their job, they’re just pulling their hair out. These three restaurants that I’ve talked to, just because I’ve been getting into this conversation, I want to know, they can’t get anybody to show up and do the work. Why are they not showing up to do the work? Because somebody is enabling them. If it’s their parents… And it all stems back to me, to the federal government is subsidizing too many things in too many ways, which disincentivizes people to show up to work. Consequently, the employers turn to whoever they can find to come in and do the job. And, I mean, the one thing that has come to my attention better than ever is because I’ve had a fantastic dose of Montana history, which is the history of the United States. We have as… businesses and families that have been employing people since the beginning of time in this country have found a way to exploit labor. You don’t need any better example, and nobody will even argue with you, that when the railroad, which the transcontinental railroad was built across this country, particularly through Nebraska, and the Golden Spike was put in Ogden, Utah, and even in this country, this part of Montana, south of Missoula, is just It was built by so many of the Chinese immigrants that came in and worked on that railroad. And nobody says that they were treated well. They weren’t treated well. They were treated like subservient slaves. And we’ve got to find a solution to that. And paying people to do nothing is the problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
It also makes them pets instead of people. Because pets is you take care of everything, but you don’t get to choose your dog food if you’re a pet. And so we’ll leave that out there. I can tell this is going to get more robust with Trent Luce. And so you want to stay tuned on this. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And one of the things out here… One of the things that the founders knew is that in order to have freedom or in order to have liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom, we needed to be able to protect those rights. And so that’s why they put the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights. And that’s why I’m so pleased that we have the discussions about our Second Amendment with the Second Syndicate.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I threw it out there twice and he didn’t take my bait. So I’m just going to have to tell you, Kim, ask me why I’m in Montana.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I should have asked you. Hey, Trent, why are you in Montana?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, two things. Number one tonight, Carter County, Montana, Ekalaka. We’re going to have a meeting. The Bureau of Land Management wants to inject CO2 into the ground, one of their flawed systems. So we’ve got a meeting tonight here in Ekalaka. I’m in Deer Lodge at the moment, and Deer Lodge fits into this discussion in a way that’s really kind of canny. 1871, before Montana became a state, the first prison in Montana was built here in Deer Lodge. And a gentleman by the name of Frank Conley, who came from Maryland with his brother to Montana… in the 1860s. And he came here because he wanted to be a surveyor for the development of Yellowstone National Park, which I find interesting. But he ended up being a deputy sheriff in a local county. I’m in Powell County at the moment. And then they created this prison. And in 1871, again, I repeat, before Montana became a state, it was still a territory. And within 30 days of the prison being constructed, it was overpopulated. Can you imagine that in that period of time even? And it was overcrowded. So what Frank Conley did was he said, we’re going to change this structure and we’re going to bring these prisoners in. We’re not just going to stick them in a cell and let them rot. We’re going to take them to the community, the ones who have become the trustee status, and we’re going to give them jobs. We’re going to work them at the lumber mill. One of the remaining lumber mills in Montana is here in Deer Lodge. Sun Mountain logging. And there’s a copper mill in Anaconda just down the road. And so these inmates started filling the jobs and contributing to building the economy in the area because everybody was talking about there’s a shortage of workers. And so I find this interesting that before we even adopt statehood, we have the same fundamental problems and people saying what they’re able to do. And then We had the railroads built, and that’s where the Chinese individuals come into play and what happened with that whole scenario. This has been a problem from day one. There’s really nothing new in any of this other than this legal and illegal migration into this country. We don’t need reform on legal immigration issues. We just need to implement the laws. We need to enforce the laws that are on the books. Well, isn’t that what Trump is trying to do, though? Trump is trying to do that in a way that is creating chaos instead of actually doing it. Number one, you shut down your border to make sure you’re cramping down on it now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and he’s done that. I had Chris Harris on, a retired border agent in the San Diego sector on Monday. And he said that, yes, Trump has really delivered regarding getting the border shut down.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good. I hope so.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Hey, next thing. You mentioned railroads. And I have not had this gentleman on for a long time, Burton Folsom. He is the author of a book called The Myth of the Robber Barons. And he says that it’s a new look at the rise of big business in America. And so he goes through this and he talks about entrepreneurs and those that did not take government subsidies. And one of those was James J. Hill. who had built the railroad, whatever the one was, the Northern Railroad, maybe it was, he did not take any subsidies. And he was much more successful than the other railroads. And you’re talking about bringing in this Chinese cheap labor to build the railroads. Bear in mind… that those railroads, those other railroads, were receiving significant government subsidies. So government had its hand in it back then as well, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
100%. I can draw every problem we have in today’s society to people becoming complacent because government gives handouts. And that has become the lifeline of a government is to create dependency of its citizens instead of we exhibiting our independent liberties. I couldn’t agree more.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Next thing, have we finished this? Because I have another thing that I’d like to, well, I actually have several different headlines that I had for you. But tomorrow we are going to have on a woman that lives in Elbert County, Colorado, regarding the transmission line corridors and Xcel Energy, threatening using eminent domain to take people’s land. in Albert County, which I’m really concerned about. So we talked about eminent domain. And of course, Trent, with eminent domain, which should be used very, very seldom, but it’s being abused, I think, with these transmission corridors and these CO2 pipelines as well. But I was talking with her about, with eminent domain, if the land is taken via eminent domain, that the person is supposed to be compensated, justly compensated for the land. So I think there’s two components, and I thought a lot about this when I was on city council, is one, who determines just compensation, but number two, to take land via eminent domain and pay in… cash which is deflation the the value deflates so instead of you having your land which there’s only a finite amount your paid cash and then of course government policy with inflation devalues the amount of the cash it does not seem like a fair trade to me your comments on that
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, again, I’m going to talk about history, and I’m guessing the lady you have joining you from Elbert County has a husband named Trent.
SPEAKER 13 :
She may. I don’t know that I got that couple. This is Carrie Giblets that’s going to be on tomorrow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no, I had the couple on last week. Yes. Excellent. So, again, I’m going to go back to where I’m at and what I’ve been focused on this week. When the railroad came through, what do you think the largest discussion and consternation was? Labor. The right-of-way taking the land and how are we going to be paid properly because you can’t come in here and just take my land.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, nothing, nothing in today’s world changes. It’s just the dollars change, the people’s names change, everything changes. But this… This transmission line thing, to me, is a big deal. And I’ve been paying more attention to where transmission lines are and how many transmission lines that we actually have. And if you look at what these transmission lines are doing, I now know people who are using the transmission line above them as a means of providing energy to their electric fences for their livestock. Usually, you have to have some sort of a either a solar or electric generated fencer to keep power to that particular electric fence that you use to fence in livestock. I know people who are just running their fence underneath the power line and they’re tapping into energy that is spilling off of these transmission lines. If that’s the case, what’s that doing to the health and well-being of the individual people? And I know this is not addressing what you’re what you brought up, because it is a big deal. I mean, the Fifth Amendment is all about public use. Is there a public use? And if there is, then you need to be justly compensated, fair market value. But we are using this eminent domain as a weapon, a weapon. And this is Xcel Energy that we’re talking about here coming through the eastern plains of Colorado. I had people from every part of the country get a hold of me after my discussion on Friday about Elbert County and what was going on there, saying Xcel Energy did this to me and our family in Minnesota. I mean, there are cultures of companies that are looking out to be good citizens and good community members, and there are others that just want to come in and bully and say, well, we have the right to take that from you and we’re going to do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and they’re using it.
SPEAKER 12 :
People need to stand up.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ll use our word of the day. They use that as a cudgel to do all of this nefarious thing. And big business and big government like each other, the agenda by the Polis administration and Xcel Energy has been more than happy to get in bed with each other on this particular issue. We’re going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. All this happens because we have amazing sponsors. And one of those is John Bozen and Bozen Law. Give them a call if you’ve been injured.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And, in fact, yesterday I was at the memorial service for Battle of World War II, Iwo Jima veteran Don Whipple, an amazing man, an amazing Christian. Just I’m blessed to have gotten to know him in my life. And I got to know him through Paula Sarles and Cooper’s Troopers and Grady Birdsong, all of them. And I’m so grateful for that. And that’s one of the reasons why I totally support the USMC Memorial Foundation, because we must remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. That website to help them is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And then the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo on the Riverwalk, co-founded by Drew Dix. Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. Amazing. 56-hour battle. And Brad Padula, Emmy Award-winning documentary maker who’s actually made a movie about that. Anyway, they founded the Center for American Values. And it’s nonpartisan, nonpolitical, to focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. I have Sixth Generation Farmer and Rancher. Trent Luce on the line. He lives in Nebraska, but right now he’s in Deer Lodge, Montana. And Trent, Gammy is chomping at the bit. She’s got a couple of things she wants to say. Gammy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good morning, kids. How are y’all? Good. Hey, let me say something and then explain it. The narratives that are being used by the media, the newspapers, the television, all forms of media, I should say, are literally being used as cudgels to tamp down our voices. And I’m going to give you two examples, how you like them apples. Good deal. Number one, Lindell trial. Gentleman put a big op-ed in the paper, and he so misrepresented the trial. And it was a long op-ed. You know, they give them You know how it goes. If you’re working for the right side, they’ll give you lots of room. They didn’t tell the truth about the case. They only got him for two issues out of 10. And really, the person that claims he was maligned is full of crap, a liar, a cheat, and a horrible human being who did all kinds of bad things. But they wouldn’t allow evidence, just like with Tina Peters’ court case. The evidence was suppressed by the judge’s These judges made comments afterwards, like, say, to the jury, that should never have been allowed. It makes them all have cases for, you know, appeals. But these op-eds make all this noise, and people think it’s the gospel when it’s a cudgel, cudgel, cudgel, to just screw with your mind. A second one is the governor’s energy policy that the editor’s, of the paper put in their assessment of the governor’s energy policy, all the good things, the bad, you know, solar, wind, et cetera, and all the future stuff. And what they don’t tell is everything that Trent Luce tells us. Week after week after week all over the country. The lies about how dangerous the CO2 pipelines really are and emergency preparedness. People don’t even know how to handle a disaster if it comes from that. But the big part is they’re framing every op-ed, everything with narratives that support the Green New Deal, that support carbon footprint issues. assessments and needs to reduce the carbon. We’re still talking garbage that is not even true based on not science. And so what Trent does, what you do, not only has to continue, Every listener out there needs to start going to their commissioners, their city council, their governing bodies in their communities and bringing, you know, the truth like the climate conversation movie. Everything needs to be put out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Gammy, thank you. And you are so well informed and you are so. fervent in your care for our next generation. And I thank you for your call in on that. We’ve got Ron on the line as well. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Kim. No one said this, but I watched Newsmax and Carl Hagsby, former Navy SEAL, made a comment about all these shootings, like this assassination, self-Democrat assassination from a Democrat, And all these other shooters were all Democrats. Ninety eight to ninety nine percent of these shootings have been from Democrats. You got the transsexuals. You have you have these school shootings. You have all this other stuff. And and he quoted it’s like ninety eight.
SPEAKER 13 :
99 of them have been democrats wow that is and that’s an important point because then also ron it is the radical activists that have taken over the democrat party that are putting through legislation that wants to make it more difficult particularly here in colorado for law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors. And so that’s a great dot that you’ve connected on that, Ron. Thank you so much. Okay, Trent Luce, let’s have you jump in here and get your comments on Gammy. And, oh, excuse me, Ron has one more thought here. Hold on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I try to say this. These people have to, I’ve listened to other stations, and everybody complains about how Trump’s doing this and how Trump’s doing that. The thing about it is if it gets hard, everybody seems to lose their sack. They just don’t have what it takes. You’ve got to stay focused, and what the main focus is is to deport all these people, and then you work on the problems. But these people want to solve the problems before taking care of the problems. So people just have to stay on course.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we’ve got to stay focused. And this is what the Trump administration says that it’s doing, is it wants to focus on the criminals. And I think there’s plenty of those to focus on. And it’s messy right now. Trent, I know it’s not perfect. And I understand that. I understand the challenges for labor, for our farmers and our ranchers and hospitality. First of all, we’ve got to get back to a work ethic that people will do jobs. I think there’s some Americans that have been taught that they are above doing certain jobs. We’ve got to change that, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I agree 100 percent. And my main problem with Trump is what he is talking about and what his cabinet members are talking about that they’re going to do isn’t happening on the ground. And I can’t speak to the border issue in terms of shutting that down because I haven’t been there. But I am living the land use issues, the energy policy every day. And the rhetoric I hear coming out of D.C. does not match what’s happening on the ground. That’s my number one problem with that whole situation. But there’s something else that Gammy brought up that is a big deal. And I’ve experienced that here in Deer Lodge, Montana, in terms of getting the truth and accurate history portrayed here. We talk about CO2 pipelines, and in the last week I’ve had so many people reiterate that, well, we’ve got pipelines all the time. Pipelines are safe. The safest form of transportation of these is not CO2. And finally this week I brought forth Jack Willingham, who is the Emergency Manage Coordinator for Yazoo County, Mississippi. One of the examples that we talk about in a CO2 pipeline rupture that occurred in Satarsha, Mississippi, He was on the scene. He was ground zero. He saw exactly what happened. And as a result of then him having a better understanding that these CO2 pipelines are not like natural gas. They’re not like any other thing we’ve ever had in the ground. We’ve got to have a different level of training for those first responders. We’re putting them out there at risk without giving them different equipment and different knowledge based on what they’ve had. And I’ve got to take my hat off to Jack Willingham and what he’s doing in Mississippi And he’s got now a mobile lab where he goes out and works with first responders because they do not have the information they need to be protected. And that’s really what we’re talking about. How do we protect the citizens who are trying to make life better for everybody else?
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, Trent, we’ve got less than a minute, but I’m going to say that, first of all, CO2 is nature’s fertilizer and we should not be putting nature’s fertilizer into the ground. And one of the ways to stop that is that we would put pressure on this administration to get rid of tax credits, tax incentives, all those kinds of things for CO2 pipelines. And I think the problem would go away. You got just about 20 seconds to respond.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, I just got to say that louder. If all tax credits would go away, most of the challenges that we talk about every day would just dissipate.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that’s what we have to work towards. Trent Luce, there’s other things I had on my list to talk with you about. So we’ll have to try that next week.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will have the chance. Thanks, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And thank you to Gammy and Ron for calling in as well. And Albert Einstein said this. He said, the only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America.
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