Join Kim and her guest Patty McKernan for a riveting discussion about the surprising changes in cast vote records in Arapahoe County. They dissect these anomalies and their potential impact on local and national elections, questioning what these shifts mean for the future. Discover the ongoing battle to ensure transparency and the accountability of governmental institutions. This episode also touches upon the importance of supporting military veterans and ensuring that American values remain intact amidst legislative changes.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim munson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday producer joe happy friday kim And boy, the weeks go by pretty quickly. We’re headed towards shorter and shorter days. That’s hard to believe. But each day, roll up your sleeves. We’ve got work to do to reclaim this state that we love and our country as well. And so that’s why we engage in this battle of ideas. We search for truth and clarity. By looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s never compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force obviously can be a weapon. But it can be sneakier. It can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear of coercion, government-induced inflation. This agenda that is being pushed out by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites, and they’re using all kinds of things like land use codes and zoning regulations. Ginny had texted me yesterday and said that, and this really goes to these elites, that they think globally. but they’re acting locally. And so what has happened is, and we’re seeing this really play out in Lakewood with them doing this whole zoning rewrite. And you really should check out Karen Gorday’s piece that she published. It was published at the Lakewood Informer, and it’s called Zoned Out, How Lakewood is Selling Out Its Neighborhood. She’s an entrepreneur and owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting, which is also a sponsor of the show. But how this all worked out was that the globalist elites, they took over our universities, and then they put in place in these public administration, the schools of public administration where these young people are taught to be city planners or city administrators, They have been taught that the globalist agenda to put people in denser and denser housing and these 15-minute cities, basically they’re trying to couch it that it’s something that would be so convenient. that you would have everything within 15 minutes of what you needed it. But, hey, if people want to live in an apartment and a 15-minute seat, people should have the freedom to do so. But they have used public policy and tax incentives and special treatment programs to build these apartment buildings that we see up and down these transit corridors and then peeling money out of the gas tax money that we have paid to put in transit. And so that is a way that they’re trying to control our lives. And so it’s important that we understand that. But again, what happened was our universities, our colleges were taken over by those that want to indoctrinate students. Our kids and kids coming out of these public administration as planners, as city managers, they are pushing that agenda because that’s what they’ve been taught. And so it’s important to understand that. And they’ve been doing this through public policy. So with that, remember, if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t need to use force to implement it. And you shouldn’t need to use tax incentives to implement it. If it’s a good idea, it should be able to stand on its own two feet from an economic standpoint. So with that, our word of the day is despotism or despot. And it is spelled D-E-S-P-O-T-I-S-M. And it could, as despotism, could be ruled by or as if by a despot. That’s so frustrating when they use that as a definition. So, of course, we had to look at despot as well. which is a ruler with absolute power, a person who wields power oppressively, a tyrant, or it could be a Byzantine emperor or prince, and it could be tyranny. And it’s a government or political system in which the ruler exercises absolute power. And we are living under a lot of despotism with this Colorado State Legislature and this governor. And so they are going to be meeting for a special session. And myself and my fellow CUT board members will be watching that and taking positions on whatever it is that they’re going to be introducing. And we would really appreciate if you would join and support CUT. It is the Colorado Union of Taxpayers organization. all-volunteer group that’s been watching legislation and issues since 1976. And when you see these people, my fellow board members, out there at events, be sure and tell them thank you because they spend an enormous amount of time to stand up for the taxpayer of Colorado, the taxpayers of Colorado. And who are the taxpayers of Colorado? It is all of us. If you buy anything in Colorado, you pay sales tax. So all of us are taxpayers. But my fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, and Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. So be sure and say thank you to them. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show because it is of our amazing sponsors. And all of your support is why our independent voice is out there on the air. And our hope is in the spirit of the Apostle Paul, and I’ve been reading the book of Acts, and he would go into different cities and be in the public square or the synagogues, and he would be reasoning and persuading people. And that is what we are working to do here at the show as well. So the word of the day is despotism or a despot. It should be pretty darn easy to use that word of the day. On Fridays, I, for our quote of the day, highlight a quote from the Medal of Honor quote book that’s been published by the Center for American Values. And one of the things that they do is they honor our Medal of Honor recipients. In particular, they have portraits of over 160 Medal of Honor recipients and their quotes. And it really is a very, there’s just a lot of reverence as you go in and you start to understand what these men did. And Drew Dix, one of the co-founders and Medal of Honor recipient, said that when they have students come in, you know, kids may be horsing around as they get off the bus, but once they come into the center, almost all the time their behavior changes. And I think that that is such great work that they’re doing. So support the center. That website is AmericanValueCenter.org. And our quote of the day is from James P. Fleming, United States Air Force Medal of Honor recipient, was born in 1943. And this is Actions on November 26, 1968. And this is the citation. It says, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Captain Fleming, then first lieutenant, distinguished himself as the aircraft commander of a UH-1F transport helicopter. Captain Fleming went to the aid of a six-man special forces long-range reconnaissance patrol that was in danger of being overrun by a large, heavily armed hostile force. Despite the knowledge that one helicopter had been downed by intense hostile fire, Captain Fleming descended and balanced his helicopter on a riverbank with the tail boom hanging over open water. Wow. The patrol could not penetrate to the landing site and he was forced to withdraw. Dangerously low on fuel, Captain Fleming repeated his original landing maneuver. Disregarding his own safety, he remained in this exposed position. Hostile fire crashed through his windscreen as the patrol boarded his helicopter. Captain Fleming made a successful takeoff through a barrage of hostile fire and recovered safely at a Ford base. Captain Fleming’s profound concern for his fellow men, at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, are in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Air Force and reflect great credit upon himself and the armed forces of his country. And this is his quote. He said this. He said, American service members are truly superb. They answer the call to duty for freedom, justice, and the American way. And again, American service members are truly superb. They answer the call to duty for freedom, justice, and the American way. Every day we must keep our military and our veterans in our prayers. And that is why I so support the Center for American Values. And please support them as well. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. And then also the USMC Memorial Foundation. Paula Sarles, who’s the president of the foundation and her team, are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial and at the same time supporting it and having events there. It’s a very important place for military and veterans, and it’s important for us to support it so that we show our appreciation for those veterans that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. So again, that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We have been going through from the White House website the 50 wins in the one big beautiful bill. Today we’ll let you know about 20 through 24. One, two, three, four. Okay, number one. Excuse me. Number 20. It incentivizes Made in America. You know what? I did this one yesterday. So it’s 21 through 25. Here we go. It creates a new Trump savings accounts for newborns, allowing children across America to experience the miracle of compounded growth. I find that interesting. Love supporting families. Not sure that government should be doing that, but supporting families, that’s number 21. Number 22, it expands access to child care for hardworking American families. Number 23, it provides a historic increase in funding for the U.S. Coast Guard. This will help block illegal drugs and migrants from entering our country, protect our sovereignty in the Arctic, and promote our national security. Seems like that’s a great idea. Number 24, it supports building new factories to grow domestic business operations. So the bill renews 100% immediate expensing and interest deductions, increases the small business deduction, and establishes 100% immediate expensing for equipment and machinery. And then number 25, it helps American farmers, producers, and ranchers compete and sell products in foreign markets. It says the bill makes sure American farmers aren’t crowded out by foreign imports in liquid fuel production markets. So that is number 21 through 25 in the 50 wins in the big, beautiful bill. And a couple of other sponsors that I did want to mention, Hooters Restaurants. The Lone Tree location will be closing on Sunday, so drop by and say hello to everyone. I was in on Wednesday to pick up the wings for the girls. And they will continue with their locations in Loveland, Westminster and on Parker Road and continue to sponsor our show because we really have this this bond as they are entrepreneurs. 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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunsonMON.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you are there. Let’s get to it. On the line with me is a good friend of mine, Patty McKernan. She lives in Arapahoe County, and she is the chair of Congressional District 6. Patty McKernan, welcome.
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Bright and early on Friday. That it is. And Patty, you had brought this to my attention. You live in Arapahoe County and Arapahoe County, the clerk’s office, they changed the cast vote records on an election. Explain this. We’ve talked about it before on the show, but if this is new to people, explain what this means exactly.
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So cast vote records are the statistics that you get to see if you go out to a government election site. So if you go out to the state, the secretary of state, there are election statistics out there. If you wanted to see how many people in Arapahoe County voted for Trump and how many voted for Biden, you would be able to go out and look at the statistics. Well, the statistics are posted based on what they call cast vote records. cast vote records are taking all of the little tick marks when you fill out a ballot and digitizing them and putting them in a in a database so basically think about a big excel spreadsheet so in arapahoe county in the 2020 election we had a very important we had a couple of very important ballot initiatives um we didn’t not only had the trump and the vibes biden race which Remember, that’s when we started flooding the voter registrations with automatic registration, and all of a sudden we had ballots galore. But all of those huge numbers of votes kind of disappeared in the 2024 election, didn’t they? The 81 million for Joe Biden went down to 60-something for both Trump and Kamala Harris. So anyway… I digress. But in 2020, we had two really key races. We had the Gallagher Amendment repeal, and that is the Gallagher Amendment had to do with the percentage of taxes coming from commercial versus residential. And certain lawmakers thought that was upside down, so they wanted to have the residents’ property taxes be increased. So they put out on the ballot to repeal Gallagher. Well, it was complicated. It was hard to understand. And so it was a pretty close race. They got, I think, 57 percent. They needed 55 to repeal it. And in Arapahoe County, it was discovered that through a couple of different things. One was a Nevada lawsuit in investigating other votes around the country, and the other one was supposedly an assistant Yale professor that was investigating people that vote split ticket. So I vote for Joe Biden, but I vote for Heidi Ganahl, that kind of a thing. So it came to everyone’s attention that in Arapahoe County, the Biden voters and the Trump voters voted to repeal Gallagher exactly the same patterns. So we were all lined up, every one of us that voted for Trump and doesn’t like to increase our taxes, we voted to increase our taxes. That’s what the graph said. That’s what was discovered. And when it was pointed out to Joan Lopez, lo and behold, in 2025, they went back in and said, oh, it was a redacting error. And they manipulated columns. There were 15.5, I think, million columns. Data points changed in the cast vote records. So then they presented it, I’ll call it re-presented it, on the Arapahoe Votes website. And now it looks normal.
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So how do you do that? Yeah, and Patty, but they didn’t tell anybody they did that, did they?
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No, they didn’t tell anybody they did that. And, of course, people that were watching elections discovered it. And so we started bringing information. Some of us in the Arapahoe County that look at elections started going to the commissioners meetings and saying to the commissioners, you certified this vote on these cast vote records. And so did the canvas board. And now your county clerk, Joan Lopez, has changed these cast vote records and represented them on the website. Well, now that we put them to the task and told the commissioners, you were responsible for certifying this and now you’ve certified something that was false. And this is not good and we’re going to push it because if Gallagher was repealed because of mistakes in Arapahoe County and Jeffco and El Paso and other places where these things are happening, then we’re paying property taxes that we shouldn’t pay and we want a refund. So we started going down to the commissioners meetings and lo and behold, Arapahoe decides to put a statement, Clerking Recorder’s Office statement regarding the 2020 election CVR. And they basically are saying that they compared original unredacted with redacted, which makes no sense. I mean, that’s the argument here. But they’re saying that we are harassing them, that the Claims being shared are not just inaccurate. They’re part of a broader coordinated effort to spread false claims aimed at undermining confidence in our elections. And that sharing this disinformation erodes trust in free and fair elections through deception and manufactured outrage. And they’re saying that we’re trying to destabilize democracy. Well, we kind of are because democracy is top down. It’s like majority rules, not representative government. But I don’t mean that that we’re trying to destabilize and saying that tongue in cheek. So there’s a little battle growing in Arapahoe County. And so we decided to bring experts into Colorado that could talk about what they found on the cast vote records. And so Tuesday night, the 15th of July, there’s the Colorado Election Integrity Summit. And, Kim, I don’t know if we’ve been able to get that on your event stage or not, but that’s where we should put it so people can find it. Because right now it’s a sign-up genius and it’s being shared through social media and emails and word of mouth. And it’s not something you can just post, you know, for a website.
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Okay, let’s talk about, we’ll probably put that in the show summary is what we’ll do on that, Patty, and that’s where people should be able to find that. Now, a couple of other things, and I wanted to just clarify because these vote totals that you mentioned regarding the 2020 election and the 2024 election, again, it’s one of those things that just doesn’t seem like it matches up. And so the vote totals, For Biden in 2020, he received the most votes ever in a presidential race, about 81 million. And I’m trying to find Trump’s in 2020. And I don’t have that right there. But hold on. But in 2024. Harris received 75 million. So where did those 6 million go, right? That’s the big question. And Trump received 77 million, which is the second highest vote total for anybody for president ever. So I think it’s important for people to connect that dot and say, hmm, where did those 6 million people go that voted for Biden but did not vote for Harris? I find that, I’ll just say curious.
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Yes. Yeah. So actually it was Kamala Harris got 67 million votes in 2024. So we went from 81 million votes for Joe Biden to to Kamala getting 67 million. And I guess I think maybe Trump, do you have the Trump number?
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Yeah, he got 77. We’ll just leave that out there. We may want to source that because I’m getting some different things. But the key thing is, is where did those extra votes for Joe Biden go? Because I don’t think that it was that they became Trump lovers. And so where did those votes go?
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Yeah, it’s been a question that I’ve had for a very long time. I’ve been investigating, I think I said on the last time I was there, the FD-19 race with Lynn Gerber against Rachel Zenzinger. And they say that it’s just because of the explosive growth, but there was not really explosive growth in population in Arvada and Westminster at that time. So I’m just going to go back to your word of the day. despotism and that is you know that jenna griswold as the sos is ruling elections with an iron fist and anytime anybody questions anything uh she and her minions jump up and down and start trying to prosecute people and persecute people like tina peters and now they’re trying to uh intimidate us into you know just saying nothing to see here nothing to see here but what if there is something to see here and our property taxes went up because
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they cook the books with the votes well and see this and how this is connected is property the founders knew that being able to own your property was it was foundational to the american idea so when you have these higher and higher taxes and on my voters guide i was a strong no on repealing the gallagher amendment and there were people on both sides of the aisle that were getting paid to be out there to try to encourage us to vote to get rid of gallagher i think it’s important to make that that distinction so then what happens is these exploding property taxes within two years uh people are are uh getting really struggling to pay those property taxes it’s an assault upon property and so final thing again the event uh that uh and and you should tell us who the guests are going to be for this election summit that’s going to be on tuesday
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Yes, so we’ll have our keynote speakers Dr Douglas frank and he’s a world renowned physicist and has been speaking on his nickname is Johnny apple seed of an election integrity. And he’s been in Mike Lindell’s documentaries. And so he’s our keynote speaker. And then we will have online. This will be live streamed, too. So we’ll be able to present the platform later today. Mark Cook, who has done a deep dive in these topics. Cassoulet Records, and he’s the one that came up with the 15 million changes in data points. And then Ed Solomon, and he’s the one that actually kind of discovered this whole thing while he was an election expert witness in Nevada. And so we’ll have… All three of those speakers, and again, it’ll be in person and live, so everyone should be able to join.
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Great, and you’ll be on on Monday with more details, so that will be on Tuesday evening in Arapahoe County. There is an event with Dr. Frank on Monday the 14th in Mesa County. Patty McKernan, thank you for all the great work that you do, and also thank you for being the chair of Congressional District 6. Greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Kim.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. And check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And Trump has been in office not quite six months. And my, oh my, things are changing. And, of course, our military is so important. They were getting at least appeared very soft because of the CRT-DEI woke ideology that was being pushed by the O’Biden-Harris administrations. But now that things are changing. And so so pleased to have on the line with me, retired Army Major General Joe Arbuckle. General Arbuckle, welcome.
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Hey, well, good morning, Kim. It’s a real pleasure and honor for me to be with you again. Thanks again for all that great patriotic work that you do.
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Well, thank you. We stand on the shoulders of giants, General Arbuckle, and it is our duty to do everything that we can to protect this great American idea and pass it on to the next generation, which is what our founders did. So you certainly are doing that with STARS, which is an organization monitoring the CRT-DEI woke ideology in the military. You are the vice chairman of STARS. and doing great work. So first of all, Trump and the military, things have changed significantly in the last six months, correct?
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Yes, indeed. President Trump didn’t waste any time in that regard. The first day he was in the office, the 20th of January, he issued an executive order that said, we’re going to end the radical and wasteful DEI programs throughout the entire federal government. And in that He made a really bold statement. He’s absolutely correct. He said that DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, is unlawful and immoral. And he required that all the DEI offices throughout the federal government, including our military, be shut down immediately. And so he’s followed on with that with about four other executive orders. And our Secretary of Defense, who’s doing a great job, in my opinion, Pete Hegseth, has issued six or seven memos, which are in effect, orders the entire Department of Defense to execute the president’s guidance. And so we’ve gotten off to a great story here with President Trump. As I said, he didn’t waste any time. And that’s been followed through. There is a problem there, though, Kim, and that is twofold. One is institutional inertia. And by that, I mean it’s tough to change a culture that has developed to support this DEI and critical race theory over the past, oh, gosh, 20 or 22 years, starting with Obama. You just can’t turn the switch in some cases and change that overnight. That’s one issue. And the other is Pete Hagseth is being hampered because I’ve heard about 200 of his key people that require Senate confirmation are not yet in a job. On top of that, the program that President Trump put out to allow federal workers to retire early has been used, and that’s the intent, to reduce the size of the federal workforce. But it leaves holes. That’s the problem. It leaves holes in key positions within the Department of Defense that need to be filled. And so that takes time. So the bottom line is we’re definitely headed in the right direction. There’s some resistance there. We need some people in place to really follow through with the orders. And I can talk about that more in a bit. But so far, definitely going in the proper direction.
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Well, in this woke ideology, I saw a headline yesterday that an admiral that Trump had slated to, I think, promote him and that he would be in charge of the Seventh Fleet. Trump has pulled that back now as he has come to realize that they had a drag presentation on one of our, I think, aircraft carriers. That does not seem to me like that is something that should be happening on an aircraft carrier.
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Exactly right. It should not, or any place in any military installation, for that matter. I recall that happening many, many months ago. There were some stories about that. But I’m glad that the Trump administration and Department of Defense is going back and looking at actions that were taken, such as with that admiral, and holding them accountable. Accountability is exactly what we need right now across the board. And tied to that, recently, the three top lawyers in the services, they’re called TJAGs, the Judge Advocate Generals and all the services, were replaced for the same kinds of reasons that they were seen to be supporting DEI. So that is going on. There’s been some Other flag-level officers, and by that I mean generals and admirals that have been asked to retire and replaced because of their past actions. That’s exactly, again, the signal we need to send. We need leaders in positions, particularly at the top, that are going to support our warfighting agenda and not social agendas.
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Okay, and I don’t mean to blindside you on this issue, but the attack of taking out the Iranian nuclear facilities, as I was reading the accounts of this, I’m thinking this is remarkable that you have these B-2 bombers leave from the middle of America, fly halfway across the earth, and carry out this attack with refueling and the fighter jets coming in. I found that whole thing remarkable, General Arbuckle.
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Yeah, exactly. Well, no blind side on that one. That’s the epitome of our professionalism, Operation Midnight Hammer that you’re talking about there. That is the best that we have in our military, and that’s what we’re striving to put across our entire military. Yeah, you’re right. The coordination, the planning that goes into that, and then the execution of the mission was flawless. And it’s not just the bombers, as you mentioned. There are multiple, multiple fighter aircraft involved in that. Submarines, you probably know, launching cruise missiles in advance of the bombs that were hitting the ground. Regarding timing, that’s just right on the money there. And on top of that, I was really pleased during the press conference to listen to our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Raisin King, Talk about the 44 Army soldiers that were left on the major air base to guard it. Everybody else was evacuated. They were left there to face the incoming missiles to land on the air base. And they fired their Patriot missiles before those enemy missiles ever hit. And the senior person, the senior Army guy on the ground was a captain. Then there was a lieutenant, a bunch of senior NCOs and troops that did that. I mean, that’s absolutely great. It’s really what our military is about. It’s the warrior ethos. It’s teamwork at its highest level where everybody’s part of the team. They all have a common mission and purpose. And, by the way, we call this one team, one fight. That’s a battle model in our military. And everybody is focused on that mission. There’s nothing about self, and nobody’s worried about identity groups based on skin color or gender or whatever else. It’s all about the team, and they have to have total trust and confidence in each other. And while I’m on that topic, that’s exactly what DEI attacked in our military. It attacked that teamwork, that mentality that it doesn’t matter what your skin color is or gender or anything else. It’s all about getting the job done. And so we’re going back to that. That page has been turned. We’re going back to our roots, which is equal opportunity for all, no matter who you are in the military. And meritocracy. In other words, the best person is picked to do whatever job is at hand. So we had the best pilots, I’m sure, in those B-2s. We had the best people on the ground that I just mentioned in our air defense network there. We had the best people in our submarines. And a simple example I like to give, if I’m in a foxhole and there’s an enemy out there in front of me, we’re in a firefight, and I have a machine gunner next to me, I don’t care what that machine gunner’s color is or gender. All I want is the best machine gunner that Army can produce at that moment. So that’s what we’re all about. Long story, long answer to what you’ve raised there.
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OK. And clarify, I was not familiar with the story about this air base. So tell me a little bit more about that. Where was that located? And those people that those individuals that stayed there knew that they could be in significant danger, but they stayed there and did the job. Right. So where was this at exactly?
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Right. I believe I was in Qatar. There’s a really large air base there. And they knew that they were going to receive some Iranian missile attacks there. The troops that were left there are air defenders in the military. They have missiles, in this case Patriot batteries, and they’re designed to knock down incoming enemy aircraft or missiles. And so that is their job in the Army. That’s their mission. And I’m sure they were proud to do it, and they did it extremely well.
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Well, it certainly just as I was reading this, it was just really unbelievable. And as you know, with my America’s Veterans stories, I had the great honor to I’ve interviewed many, many different veterans and members of our military. And so I was just in awe of this mission as I started to read about it and understand that more. But this DEI, as you mentioned, is really gone after this one team, one fight. It’s tried to put people into groups and confuse them. And instead of giving people promotions because of… meritocracy and trying to be the very best. It put people in groups and then would give them promotions because of the group. That’s not only happened in the military, but that’s happened in our society as well. And I love the fact that we’re getting back to that American idea of being the very best that you can be and doing the job the very best that you can, General Arbuckle.
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Absolutely. That’s been historically in our military are the ground roots of what we’re all about, and that is treating people fairly and equally, rewarding them, promoting them for their performance and their future potential in other jobs, and not caring about anybody’s identity characteristics. In other words, we’ve been colorblind. When we look at each other, we don’t care about the color. Everybody’s green, so to speak. Everybody has the same color of blood. It’s kind of been what we’ve talked about, and it is absolutely true. That model has been tried and tested over the generations in peace and war. And along comes DEI, and it attacks that. It says, no, you’ve got to be color conscious. When you look at somebody else, you have to think about their gender, their sexual orientation, and their color. And that’s why it is so toxic to our military. And that’s what we’re plucking out now. We’re eradicating that mentality, that cultural.
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Okay. And before we go to break, at stars.us, there is going to be a, it looks like a virtual town hall, DEI exposed by Stanley Ridgely, professor and former military intel officer. And that is his book. And that will be next Wednesday, the 16th at DEI. 10 a.m. Mountain Time, and people can register at stars.us. That looks like that’ll be quite interesting.
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Yes, thanks for mentioning that, Kim. I encourage everybody to sign up. It’s free. All you have to do is just submit a little information and you’ll get tied into it.
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Okay. And when we come back, we’re going to talk about communism and Marxism, which DEI is based on that because Marxism wants to put people in groups and then pit those groups against each other. And General Arbuckle said something over Twitter. Quite interesting that we’re going to unpack for you. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Let’s get right to it. I’m talking with retired Army Major General Joe Arbuckle. He is the vice chairman of STARS. That’s S-T-A-R-R-S dot U-S. There is all kinds of information there. They have a very informative website. that is scheduled for Wednesday, this coming Wednesday at 10 a.m. Mountain Time, regarding DEI exposed. General Arbuckle, Marxism is based on putting people in groups. Instead of recognizing the groups inherent value of each individual they it puts people in groups and then pits those groups against each other and communism of course marxism and they’re all connected and uh you since the text over regarding the 45 communist goals read into the congressional record back in 1963 so what should people know about that
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Well, thanks for mentioning that, Kim. First, I highly recommend that people get on the web and just do their own search. Just look for the 45 communist goals that were read in the congressional records, and it will pop up just like you said. A congressman named Herlong read those into the record back then. And we’re doing a briefing, a presentation within STARS, and we’re talking about our national creed being attacked And it’s being attacked, of course, by social reengineering in these communist goals. And we prepared a slide for that briefing where it summarizes some of the 45. Let me just read through some of these very quickly to give the listeners a flavor for what the goals were back then. And then think about, have they accomplished these goals today? And I’m afraid the answer is yes. They want to capture political parties. They want to get control of schools and teacher unions. Communist goals are to infiltrate the press and gain control of the media. They want to eliminate prayer and religious expression in schools, discredit our Constitution, belittle the American culture and discourage teaching of American history, infiltrate and gain control of unions and big business, promote the United Nations and one world government, use student riots to form in public protest, infiltrate churches, discredit the Bible, discredit the family, try to get control of kids, take them away from their parents, I support violence and insurrection as legitimate and break down the standards of morality. That’s just a summary that we’re using in our STARS briefing. But the rest are equally striking, I believe. And unfortunately, as I said a minute ago, I’m afraid the communists have accomplished these goals to a large degree in many places.
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So what do we do about it?
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We kick back, we stand up, we talk against it. Just like one of your segments earlier, talking about defending the Second Amendment, that’s absolutely necessary. We have to get engaged in our political processes, obviously. We have to take control of our schools back, away from the unions. Citizens have to go to school board meetings and speak out against things that are wrong. A lot of the legislation here in Colorado is geared at taking control of kids. The CRT, correction, the LBGTQ movement there, obviously, has got to be pushed back against in terms of parents not having any say about what their kids are taught in schools in that regard. Churches and so forth, churches, they have to stand up and talk about this sort of thing. That needs to be done basically at the grassroots level again, in addition at the legislative level.
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Well, and that’s why we do the show, General Arbuckle, is because I realize we are in a battle, but it is a battle of ideas. And this has been attributed to Stalin. I’m not sure he said it, but he certainly could have said it. And that is ideas are more powerful than guns. We wouldn’t let our enemies have guns, so why would we let them have ideas? And that’s the battle that we’re in at this particular time, General Arbuckle.
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Absolutely right. Another side we’re doing this start-up briefing and presentation I mentioned is based upon the oath that we in the military and officers in particular take to support and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. During my entire 32 years in the Army, I never thought about a domestic enemy, frankly. We’re all focused on foreign enemies because the domestic side had not popped up yet. And it is represented by C-R-T-D-E-I. What this slide does is breaks out foreign and domestic enemies. On the foreign side, it goes back to a guy named Sun Tzu who lived 500 B.C. And he published a great book called The Art of War. And the message in that is sort of related to what you just said. The art of war is to subdue the enemy without firing a shot. Ideas, in other words. And there’s two Chinese communist colonels who published a book in 1999 called Unrestricted Warfare, and they laid out their battle plan to defeat the United States without firing a shot. And I highly recommend that book. It’s entitled Unrestricted Warfare. And the idea is there’s no limits to war. You basically infiltrate a society like ours, take over our colleges, our universities, They’re after our farmland, as you know, intellectual property thefts and all that. So we’re basically, in my opinion, losing that war because they’ve been at it all this time. We’re just now waking up to what the heck they’re doing. On the domestic front, it’s a cultural war we’ve been talking about. We started really the counter-revolution, counter-cultural revolution in the 60s, and it’s targeting our institutions and now our military, as you know, we’ve been talking about that. It’s critical race theory that has evolved into DBI. That’s the domestic threat we face today. And it’s just as deadly as any enemy firing a weapon at us. You want some evidence? Students and faculty riots, flying Hamas flags, burning U.S. flags, riots with Antifa, BLM, and so forth. Anti-Semitism is being rampant now in our colleges and universities. And now we have, of all things, a Muslim communist running for mayor of our largest city, New York City, Mandani. And it looks like he could very well win that. We have a communist Muslim president. going to be the mayor, perhaps, of New York City. That’s evidence of the domestic war we’re in and evidence that we’re not winning.
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Give us some optimism. We have about a minute left, General Arbuckle, because you are a real American hero. And you obviously are not giving up because check out STARS. That’s S-T-A-R-R-S dot U-S. You can see that you are engaged in this battle of ideas. Your final thought.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, please do check out the website. Yeah, positive, yes. The good news is we’re recognizing the enemy. The first step in understanding and winning a war is understanding the enemy. We’re doing that. We’ve done that. And we are kicking back. We’re pushing back against it. Everything that President Trump has done in the last six months has been pushing back against this cultural revolution that we’ve been in since the 1960s. What he’s done in six months is unprecedented. It’s all positive. He’s putting America first. He’s pushing it back against the ideas that I just kind of laid out here, the communist goals and so forth. And we’re doing that in the Department of Defense. So the bottom line is we’re definitely headed in the right direction, as I said early on. We’ve got the momentum behind us. All we have to do is stay engaged and keep pushing.
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General Arbuckle, thank you so much. And again, check out STARS. That’s S-T-A-R-R-S dot U-S. We will talk again very soon. And thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you, Kim. My pleasure. Have a great day.
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And our quote for the end of the show is from Thomas Edison, who said this, Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave as your fathers before you. Have faith. Go forward. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And a despot could be a ruler with absolute power, a person who yields power oppressively, a tyrant, or it could be a Byzantine emperor or prince. It doesn’t have to just be a person. I would say that the Colorado State Legislature and this governor are despots. And the other word, despot is spelled D-E-S-P-O-T, and despotism is D-E-S-P-O-T-I-S-M. And it could be rule with absolute power, authority, tyranny, or a government or political system in which the ruler exercises absolute power. And my, oh my, we see a lot of that coming out of this legislature and this governor here in Colorado. And that is why we really need to be pushing back towards, we need to reclaim this Colorado legacy. that we love and these discussions happen because of all of you and your support and our sponsors and i so appreciate susan harris and her family for their goal sponsorship of the show and i say thank you to them grateful for them every day let’s see here Let’s get to our quote of the day. This is from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And I highly recommend that you check it out. The center is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And check out their website, AmericanValueCenter.org. Be sure and support them. And I’d highly recommend that you get down and visit the center as well. The quote is from James P. Fleming, United States Air Force Medal of Honor recipient. Born 1943, actions November 26, 1968. I read his citation in hour number one, and that will rebroadcast in the one to two hour, but he said this. He said, And that is James P. Fleming. The other thing, I did this in the first hour, but if you missed that, going through the 50 wins of the one big beautiful bill, and this is from whitehouse.gov, 21, it creates a new Trump savings account for newborns. Number two, it expands access to childcare for hardworking American families. Number 23, it provides a historic increase in funding for the U.S. Coast Guard. 24, it supports building new factories to grow domestic business operations. Number 25, it helps American farmers, producers, and ranchers compete and sell products in foreign markets. Another headline that I wanted to mention, and this is very related to the conversation that General Arbuckle and I had in our number one regarding Marxism. And this is from The Daily Caller. And the whole climate change narrative is really Marxist in its agenda. And that is why the film, the documentary that is the product and vision of Walt Johnson is so important. You can watch it for free at aclimateconversation.com. I have the great honor of moderating the documentary. And Walt really was, I think, he was ahead of his time. He was so concerned about this. He’s a geophysicist. And he was concerned about this narrative. And he said, we need to have a discussion about this. And so I think we did that three years ago. It’s been shown on Newsmax quite often. Our guest today, our featured guest, Steve Gorham, was one of our guests for our podcast series. But the Teachers Union, this is from Daily Caller, Teachers Union’s climate justice goals are meeting fiscal reality as students fail. It’s talking about the Chicago Teachers Union. The kids can’t read and write. So if you dumb everybody down, they don’t have the tools to thrive and prosper. And that is what’s happening not only in Chicago. We’re seeing it in a lot of different school districts. But it says climate justice provisions in the Chicago Teacher Union’s new contract are colliding with financial reality as the city’s low-performing public school system faces a projected $734 million budget shortfall. So stay tuned. Our kids can’t read and write. We’ve put all this money into these things that really make no sense. And we’ve got to get all that turned around. Please have on the line with me great sponsors of the show. And that’s Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate. And Teddy is also co-owner of Spartan Defense, which is a gun store. In Colorado Springs, Alicia does training. Teddy, welcome to the show. Before we jump into your essay that we published this last weekend, tell us a little bit more about Spartan Defense.
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So Spartan Defense is a family-owned and operated retail store in Colorado Springs. We specialize in more rare, higher-end products. merchandise and firearms, things that you don’t normally find at other firearm stores in the state. In fact, we have some state exclusives. But we also have something for everybody, you know, whether it be just the average Ruger or the high-end Staccato or Atlas or Lago Alien, we have it all.
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Okay. And Alicia, you provide training and you also are associated with Spartan Defense, yes? Yes. Indeed.
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So I have a training company by the name of Concealed Carry Classes of Denver, out of southern Denver. But I also do a lot with Spartan Defense just to make sure that we are keeping people educated and armed. and supporting the best gun shop in Colorado.
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So with that, though, Alicia, you realize that our Second Amendment is certainly under attack here in Colorado. And so you and Teddy have come together to create the Second Syndicate. So tell us about that. Correct.
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Correct. So we were seeing, notably in the past couple years, just a continuous assault on the Second Amendment. And you know, there’s such an entire community of people that are involved in the Second Amendment industry that aren’t represented, such as firearms educators like myself, people that make optics, people that manufacture ammunition or holsters, all these people that aren’t necessarily federal firearms licensees, but are representative of all the wonderful things that we do as a community. And we said, you know what, what about them? Where’s their voice? Where’s their presence? And You know, we have a couple groups in Colorado that we’re friendly with that are also 2A organizations. But we said, you know what? We need to step our game up, and we need to start more of a grassroots organization and unite everybody. So Teddy, his wife, Rocia, and I formed the second syndicate, and here we are.
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And this is so important. And you, Alicia and Teddy, are also writing monthly essays for us. And Teddy, we just published your essay this last week. And it took a couple of days for us to get a line around with Facebook to get the promotion going. But we’re starting to get some real eyes on that at this particular point in time. You have about 1.1 million. 1,000 likes, which that means that there’s been a lot more people that have had their eyes on that. And Alicia, I think yours from last month had at this point about 7,200 likes. I love the fact that we’re getting eyes on these issues, Teddy.
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Absolutely. Definitely important to bring up. Definitely important to keep an eye on it. You know, at the end of the day, that big, beautiful bill was Definitely did something that needed to be done for the 2A community. I don’t think it went far enough, unfortunately, and that’s kind of what we addressed in the article, so check the article out.
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And yes, the title is The Big Beautiful Bill. Win worth celebrating, but still not good enough. So, Teddy, explain to us. We’ve had discussions about suppressors in Colorado, and firearm suppressors basically dissipates the sound a bit. It doesn’t make them silent, but it makes it so that the sound is suppressed. And… You were looking for remedies because it was something that kind of fell through the cracks with the Big Beautiful Bill is it would make suppressors basically illegal to purchase or own in Colorado. So that did get fixed?
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Kind of, sort of. In the bill it did because what happened in the bill was the Hearing Protection Act and the Short Act actually were taken out of the bill due to the House, I’m sorry, do the Senate’s parliamentarian. We didn’t want it to be taken out. We just wanted it to be modified in wording. But unfortunately, the parliamentarian struck it because of the bird rule. So what they did instead is they just took the fiscal or changed the fiscal amount for NFA tax stamps. So it used to be $200 in order to purchase a suppressor or a short barrel rifle or short barrel shotgun. They reduced that fee to $0. You still have to apply for the stamp. You still have to get fingerprinted, things of that nature. So not the win we were hoping for, which would have eliminated suppressors and short barrels from the NFA altogether. But, you know, it’s a step in the right direction for sure.
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So I imagine, Alicia, that you and Teddy, Rocia, and all those that are standing up for the Second Amendment are just rolling your sleeves up and thinking of the next thing to do, yes?
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Indeed, and one of the things that I want people to understand is, you know, how do you eat an elephant, right? One bite at a time. And although this wasn’t the slam dunk that we were hoping for, it’s progress. And this is probably, in the past, 10, 15 years, this is the biggest attack against these unconstitutional laws that we’ve had for the Second Amendment in quite some time. So this is a pretty significant win for us. And there’s larger organizations that we are very friendly with and we are in discussions with quite often, such as Firearms Policy Coalition, the Second Amendment Foundation, the NRA, that have come together to unite to sue against these regulations in the NFA. So now we have some standing in that we can push back a bit and start getting some relief. And that all comes with getting the people involved as well. We’re only as strong as the support that we have. So if people are out there and they’re listening and they are sick and tired of these constant infringements and the foots on the neck of liberty, support the second syndicate. We are out here working with these organizations. We’re doing what we can. We are talking to people. We are working together to get ourselves to D.C. so we can have more in-depth conversations with our congressmen and women. So if you if you want to see the second syndicate be more successful, please consider donating to us. You can head to our bonfire store at bonfire dot com forward slash store forward slash the second syndicate. But to Indy and buy some merch, you can go and subscribe to our YouTube channel that we have at the second syndicate. We actually just had Lily Tang Williams come and take a visit and do a show with us again. If you guys aren’t familiar with her, she’s quite an interesting story. She shatters every narrative the left tries to push because she is a Chinese immigrant who escaped communist China under Mao, came to America, embraced her Second Amendment right, and is now running for Congress. And she’s in New Hampshire, isn’t she, Alicia? Yes, she is. She is quite the spitfire.
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Yes, she is. Hey, Teddy and Alicia, sorry about that. We will talk again next week. But what is that website, Teddy Collins?
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That’s the2ndsyndicate.com. That’s the2ndsyndicate.com.
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And be sure and check out Teddy’s essay at the Kim Munson Show. And we’ve got that published there. Have a great week. We’ll talk next week.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And pleased to have our next guest, Steve Gorham, on the line. We actually did a podcast with him for our climate, the documentary, A Climate Conversation, that whole podcast series. You can find that at A Climate Conversation dot com. And really an informative, long interview on that. So we really appreciate it. But Steve Gorman is the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and the author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book is Green Breakdown, The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Steve Gorman, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hi, Kim. Great to join you again.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I want to get to a couple of these articles that you’ve written. But first and foremost, these floods in Texas are devastating. It’s heartbreaking. There are those that want to blame it on climate change, some on seed clouding. What’s your response to all that, Steve Gorham?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, really tragic. More than 100 people killed and more than 100 missing, I believe, are the current counts are. Just very, very sad. Yeah, and we do have a bunch of people blaming climate change or the current administration as well. ABC News said, quote, extreme weather events like Texas rain are more likely to occur due to climate change. Scientists warn. You know, this is sort of a special part of the country, though. It’s the Texas Hill Country. And they call this actually Flash Flood Alley, this particular location north of San Antonio. I had fun paddling it a number of years back when my kids were young. It’s a beautiful area. But Texas also gets tremendous weather changes, a lot of rain. I was going down to visit my uncle over a couple years and helping him with the retirement home. And I was down there on two different weekends when we got eight inches of rain on two different weekends. They just get an awful lot of rain. And Matter of fact, a study at the University of Texas in San Antonio has counted the number of deaths to flooding. That was prior to this event. But over a 60-year period, there were more than 1,000 people that died in floods in Texas, and that was the leading state in the nation. The next highest total was Louisiana with about 700. So really a sad situation. And a lot have blamed the administration as well. But they did put out flood warnings a couple different times prior to the event, and just to say, you know, I guess this thing hit at 1 or 1.30 at night, and I think the girls in that camp were in bed when the water started coming in windows. I mean, there really was very, very little warning. My wife has suggested that what they need are those horns, you know, audio horns like we have in the Midwest for tornadoes, and maybe they should put those in all around those areas, and then give people at least a little warning, but really sad.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. And one other thing, cloud seeding. One of our guests this week said that they’ve been seeding clouds in Texas. Do you have an opinion on that, Steve? Is that something to be concerned about?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, cloud seeding is usually used. I think they put a sodium compound into the atmosphere to try and increase rainfall and Particularly if you have a drought in an area, but if you don’t have any clouds, it doesn’t do any good anyway. But I don’t know that they were doing this down in Texas. They get an awful lot of rain down there. But cloud seeding has been sort of sometimes a little bit of help, but often not really much. I don’t think it’s really very effective where it’s been tried. But I don’t think this was through the cloud seeding. This was just Texas weather coming in off the Gulf and the West, and they get all these huge storms periodically.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So next thing, the Big Beautiful Bill. There is a lot in it. And one of the things is these whole electric vehicle mandates. What’s your thoughts about the Big Beautiful Bill and EVs?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, the Big Beautiful Bill was passed very close, signed by the president last week. Much of the discussion has been about the making the Trump tax cuts from his first term permanent and then also about Medicaid. But there are some really big changes in there for renewable energy. Now we’ve been subsidizing wind since 1992 and subsidizing solar just about as long with production tax credits, with investment tax credits, with loans and with outright grants. And These were running about $10 or $15 billion a year during the Obama administration. They went down during Trump’s first term. But then when the Inflation Reduction Act was passed in 2022, the numbers ballooned to $100 billion a year in subsidies, went up by a factor of five. And if not changed, they’d be running a trillion dollars over 10 years. But now with the Big Beautiful Bill Act, these have all been scaled back. For example, they have cut the tax credits. You won’t be able to get them unless you start construction within 12 months, and you must finish construction by 2027. These are very tight time limits, and they also have definitions of what construction means. And then also they’re not allowing credits to be resold. Often wind and solar companies would get these credits and they would sell them for money to other firms that could use them. But that has been halted as well. So really a really a big, big change. And wind and solar is going to summer predicting a 50 percent decline in the amount being installed. By the way, the proponents of wind and solar always claim that this is the cheapest electricity. But then on the other hand, they say, well, but you can’t cut any of the subsidies. You know, that would be terrible if that happens. So just a shock to the industry. You also mentioned electric vehicles. Another big change is that the $7,500 electric vehicle federal tax credit is going to disappear by the end of September. And also you could resell EVs and get a $4,000 credit in some cases. That’s going to disappear as well. So pretty big impact there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and so this is moving the vehicle market to a free market where people, and we have Lauren Fix with the Car Coach reports on regularly, where people can buy the vehicle that they want instead of these carrots and kind of force to try to get people into these EVs. Yeah. And so this is a really big deal. And has this contributed to the rift between, I guess, what’s your thoughts about the rift between Trump and Elon Musk? Is this money going away? Is this part of it? Do you think that there’s been a rift between the two?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it’s hard to tell on that. You’ve raised a number of things. So, yeah, we’ve had a number of states with EV mandates. saying that sales of vehicles must be 80% EVs or 100% EVs by a certain date. I think Colorado is one of those states as well. So there’s a couple things happening. First, the Big Beautiful Bill Act has cut these subsidies, which is going to hurt the markets, the demand. But another thing that’s occurring is that Mr. Trump signed resolutions against the waivers. Now, the pollution control is supposed to be done by the federal government. The 1970 Clean Air Act said that was the responsibility of the federal government. But at that time, they also provided waivers to states who had the prior pollution control laws like California. And for the last 35, 40 years, California has been getting waivers allowing it to set its own pollution control. And, for example, California has a zero emission law law for cars sold from 2035 onward. And 11 other states have adopted similar programs. Colorado is one of those, trying to force people to buy electric vehicles or hydrogen, which isn’t doing much, instead of gasoline and diesel cars. But both the Senate and the House have acted against those waivers. They passed resolutions. And Mr. Trump has now signed a these resolutions that eliminates California’s waiver for EVs. And so this is going to be a big deal. The auto manufacturers are kind of mixed. Some of them want the EVs and some don’t. But you mentioned Elon Musk. One of the things Tesla has been getting for many years now are huge credits. The state of California, for example, if you sell cars in California, they require a certain amount of EVs. And if you don’t, you have to get credits for the cars that you sell. And so people like Ford and GM are buying credits from Tesla. And it’s been over a billion dollars a year to Tesla for Elon Musk and his company. But that is now changing. And the state of California, by the way, is suing the federal government over this rollback of the waivers. But really a big, big impact. So Tesla is getting hit not only by the credits disappearing from car sales, but also the money that they’re earning over a billion a year by selling waivers to other vehicle firms. So again, huge changes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. It is huge changes, but it’s necessary changes because if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force, coerce people to do that, Steve Gorham, and you know that for sure. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Steve Gorham, and we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything residential real estate, reach out to award-winning realtor Karen Levine.
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And welcome back. Yes, it is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Our guest, let’s get right to it, is Steve Gorham. He’s the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of four books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book is Green Breakdown, The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Before we get into this, Steve Gorham, I want to just give you a shout out. You were one of our guests on our podcast series at A Climate Conversation, which people can watch at aclimateconversation.com. But in working with you there and then working with you as a guest on the show, Joe and I were just talking about it during break. You are… You are such a delightful guest. You are so organized and so thoughtful. And in fact, when Zach was putting together the podcast on all that, he said, what a great guest. I just want to give you a shout out because I think you’re doing something very special. I don’t want to embarrass you, but I just wanted to say that. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks so much. It’s such a joy to join you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let’s get to this piece that you published at Real Clear Energy at the end of June. It’s hot weather, but not man-made. Well, it is summer. It has been hot here, but it’s not because of human beings, huh?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah, we had been, especially the east, the Midwest, the east and the south, Last month we had a very big heat wave. There were about 160 million people that had areas where temperatures were approaching 100 degrees Fahrenheit. And we had a lot of people saying that, such as CNN and NPR, saying that this was due to man-made climate change, that it was due to burning, using power plants with coal and natural gas and burning oil, those sorts of things. And, you know, and we’ve heard that a lot before. This is the first heat wave for the summer. But if you look at the data, and I go, I like to go to a website at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They have a website called State Extremes, and they list the state high temperature and the low temperatures and rainfall and other sorts of things, all of the records going back for about 100 years. And you look at this and you go, okay, well, let’s look at the state high temperature records. And the first thing you find is that 36 of the 50 state record highs were set 50 years or more ago, 1975 or earlier. There have been only six records set after the year 2000. And actually, Colorado was one of those states in 2019 on July 20th. you had your maximum temperature recorded, 115 Fahrenheit at John Martin Dam. But most of the states are much, much older. For example, we have Illinois was 1954, it was 117 Fahrenheit. I’ve never seen anything like that in my history. But And then if you look at when most of the records were set, 23 of the 50 state high-temperature records, almost half were set in the decades of the 1930s. And so you kind of go, okay, we know it’s been hot, but there have been warmer times in the past, and that’s really what the data shows.
SPEAKER 04 :
As you’re talking about that, I’m looking at this, and where can people find the article, Steve Gorham?
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, let me see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Where did I… I think it was Real Clear Energy. Real Clear Energy, yeah. Okay. And as I’m looking at this, for example, my home state of Kansas, the highest temperature ever recorded was in 1936. And you mentioned so many of these states. This was a long time ago. A lot of this was before air conditioning, and air conditioning really changed people’s lives, yes?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, it did. Actually, they attribute a lot of the growth in population of the South to the invention of the air conditioner, and it’s kind of obvious why. But you mentioned Kansas. There were two days in July of 1936 when it made 121 degrees Fahrenheit in Kansas, so those records still stand.
SPEAKER 04 :
Boy, that would be very uncomfortable. And that, of course, that was at a time where there was a significant drought there as well. So looking at the data on this, this is really important, Steve.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Yeah, it is. And let me give you another thing here. So the press is always talking about this. The United Nations has said that we’re in the era of global boiling. They’ve been quoted that way. And every time we get a heat wave, and I had one in Europe a couple weeks ago, people are all crowing about how your neighbor’s SUV is causing all of this. But again, if you look back in history, you’ll find that that’s really nonsense. Thermometers started being used about 1880, 140 years ago. And over that period, temperatures have risen about 1.2 degrees Celsius or about 2 degrees Fahrenheit. We’ve had a gentle warming in 140 years. But before 1880, scientists were able to use a thing called proxies, which are chemical changes in the environment that follow temperature. And if you use those, and those are things like tree rings and ice cores and oxygen isotope ratios, those sorts of things, you find that we’ve had many times in the last 10,000 years since the last ice age, many multi-century long periods when it’s been warmer than today. And an example is the Rhone Glacier in Switzerland. The Rhone Glacier is in central Switzerland. It’s a wall-to-wall glacier, mountainside to mountainside. The Rhone River flows out of it into France and down into the Mediterranean. And that glacier has been pulling back for about 100 years. It’s shrinking a little bit. But every time it recedes, they find things under it like horse bridles and wagon wheels. And they find 4,000-year-old wood that was buried by the ice. And scientists have pointed out that for most of the last 10,000 years, this valley where there’s a glacier today has been ice-free, indicating that it was naturally warmer many times in past centuries. And we see this is just one piece of evidence. I could go on for an hour and quote many of these. And so the idea that we’re in abnormally warm temperatures just is flat-out wrong, but it is just repeated endlessly by the press and others.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and the reason is, Steve Gorham, is because then with that narrative of climate change out there, then it’s really about control. And I remember you mentioned that, let’s see, something in the 1992 was when they started to subsidize wind and solar. It was back in the 90s also. And this was the first thing that got my attention was the mandating on… are taking away choices on light bulbs. And I inherently knew in my gut that something wasn’t right when government came in and started to regulate light bulbs.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. Change your light bulbs and you can save the climate. Yeah, well, we have a bunch of those now. We have seven states as well where cities and counties, and even in the case of New York, the whole state, have banned gas appliances and new construction systems. By the way, Colorado has a couple of those counties, I believe, where you have to use an electric appliance in a new construction. And so that’s another example where, as you talk about control, the people that endorse climatism, the ideology, the fear of man-made warming, want to control your vehicles and your appliances and power plants and a lot of other things. By the way, there are also 24 states now that you don’t hear about, but those states have passed laws saying, saying, Mr. County Manager or Mr. City Mayor, you can’t pass a law banning energy use in your city. So we do have a pretty big pushback against that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and I think it’s because people are talking about it. And when did you get interested in this whole climate change narrative and started writing these books?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I was an out-of-work business executive back in 2008. Okay. and realized to find something at the same level. I was the general manager, head of a factory in engineering and things, and I’d have to move out of the state near Chicago and didn’t want to do that. So I said, well, you can write books, you can study, and I got into the climate thing. I read all of Al Gore’s books and decided he was probably wrong. And since then, I’ve written four books on climate and energy and public policy, and I also am a professional speaker. I speak to… to engineering and energy and metals and transportation and utilities and all sorts of different folks about energy and about climate and public policy. And it’s been a lot of fun, but it has gotten very political, so there’s the downside to that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, whenever you have this fight about control, it’s always going to get political. That’s just the way it is. We’re going to continue the discussion with Steve Gorham. And be sure and check out aclimateconversation.com. You can watch the documentary for free. We have a great podcast series, and Steve is featured in one of those podcasts. And what is your website before we go to break as well, Steve Gorham?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, Steve Gorham, G-O-R-E-H-A-M.com. They can get all of my books. One of them, by the way, is The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism, which is a great book for kids in high school or college who are getting a very one-sided point of view on climate from their courses. It’ll give them some balance. It’s got… Three polar bears and a Mazda convertible on the cover.
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Indeed, it is Friday. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Also, check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. The official memorial is right here in Golden. And it’s a very special place. It was dedicated in 1977. And Paula Sarles, who is the president of the foundation. and her team are working on raising the funds to do a remodel, and so support them. It is important that we honor and remember those that have given their lives or have been willing to give their lives for our freedom, and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is Steve Gorham, and Steve is the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and has written four books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book is Green Breakdown, the Coming Renewable Energy Strategy. which that segues into this recent piece that was published at Master Resource, and that is state net zero electricity dreams are collapsing. And here in Colorado, it seems like this legislature and this governor are wanting to double down on this whole net zero debacle. But yet net zero, I guess, first of all, explain what net zero is, Steve Gorham.
SPEAKER 16 :
So net zero is the idea that we ought to get to net zero carbon dioxide emissions by 2050 is the typical date. And that means to shift away from coal, oil, and natural gas and to wind, solar, and biofuels. And that has become a worldwide goal, but it’s beyond a reach out. It’s an impossibility. It’s not going to occur. And that’s a lot about what my book, Green Breakdown, is about. But you’re right, Colorado is one of those states. We now have about, let’s see, we have 23 states that have enacted laws or executive orders to try and get to net zero by 2050, and Colorado is one of those now. But these net zero electricity dreams are collapsing, and there are three big factors. One, of course, are the Trump policies. and the renewable subsidy rollbacks, as we’ve just talked about with the big beautiful bill. We also have states and towns and cities in some states that are now pushing back on renewables. And then the third factor is the artificial intelligence revolution.
SPEAKER 04 :
And my understanding is AI, artificial intelligence, will have an insatiable appetite for electricity. And there’s no way – and they cannot have something that is intermittent. And the sun doesn’t shine 24 hours a day, and the wind doesn’t always blow. And so I find it interesting that there are those that have been on this narrative of conserve energy, making it more difficult for citizens to cool their homes in the summer, just trying to control all that, make things more expensive. They seem to be fine with this whole appetite of AI for all of this electricity. Address that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, the whole AI revolution surprised everybody. All the grid operators, if you read their quotes from a few years, from a couple years ago when Chad GPT came out, they all said, wow, how did we not see this demand ramp coming? We had flat electrical power for two decades in the United States, and during that period they closed about 200 coal plants, and we put in a lot of gas plants and a bunch of wind and solar. But all of a sudden when Chad GPT came out and now NVIDIA has become the biggest, most valuable company in the world, we had all these data centers being upgraded. There’s a website called the USA Data Centers, which I like to use, and they keep a count of data centers. Back at the start of 2024, there were about 2,700 data centers in the United States. And data centers are the things that typically run the internet and provide cloud storage. But now they’re being upgraded to do high-speed computing for the artificial intelligence revolution. And so we went from 2,700 up to 3,800 data centers in just a year, like a 25% increase. According to their count, there’s 57 of these in Colorado as well, these data centers. But what we have is we have all the big guys, Microsoft and Meta and Google and Oracle and Amazon, putting in these data centers all over the country to run artificial intelligence routines try and make machines think like humans. And this is just a massive increase in electricity. Virginia says they have to double their electricity consumption within a decade. They don’t know how to do it. Texas says they’re going to have to increase it by more than two and a half times by 2031. Just huge, huge effects. And as you say, these AI routines run 24 hours a day. They run all night. They run weeks on end. They need a lot of power, and that power has to be consistent. Wind and solar really can’t handle it. So what we’re doing is, around the country, they are extending and restarting power plants. Nuclear plants are being restarted in Pennsylvania and in Michigan. We have coal plants that are extending past the dates they were going to close in Tennessee and Utah and West Virginia and Indiana and a lot of other places. But the big winner is going to be the natural gas plants. There are now over 200 of those in planning or under construction in the United States. And so all of this is really clobbering the net zero revolution. You know, you can’t get to net zero in wind and solar if you’re going to be building all these gas plants and keeping the coal plants around.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why are not the climate change activists really out there being vocal about this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they are trying to be, I think. But it’s a problem when the power goes off. You know, we had a – and the number of blackouts, by the way, is rising in the United States. The U.S. Department of Energy keeps that data. And about 10 years ago, the average outage, average cumulative outage for an electricity user was about three hours a year. You might have three outages one hour at a time. But that has now risen to five, six or seven hours a year. It’s more than doubled. And a lot of that is because intermittent power. We also had that famous blackout in February 2021 in Texas when the power for four and a half million people went off for 72 hours. And it was just terrible. A lot of people had the power out and they couldn’t maintain their lives. We had over more than 200 people killed. from that blackout, and that’s more than any hurricane in history except one. So these are not, you know, these are not minor things when the power goes out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, so looking in your crystal ball, and we only have a couple of minutes left, how is this going to work with this AI taking all this energy? But we as everyday people, we certainly love the comforts of having energy that we can be warm in the winter and cool in the summer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, one thing is power prices are going to go up, and they have been rising in the United States recently. Particularly in the green states, the U.S. average has gone up about 3% per year, which isn’t bad. It’s about like inflation. But California, for example, is up 116% in the last 15 years. That’s green California. Colorado, by the way, last year was at $0.15 per kilowatt hour. That’s a little bit lower than the national average, which is good. But the latest thing is BYOP, build your own power. These companies are putting in their own gas power plants, and they’re not relying on the grid because they just can’t get them in time. And gas turbines are sold out now for the next four or five years to try and build a power plant. But it’s going to raise prices. We’ve got big demand. And I think people are going to stop trying to build wind and solar. That’s just that’s just the small, small share of things.
SPEAKER 04 :
Goodness. OK. And Steve, I think we’re going to need to get you back on the show to say what what can we the citizens do about this? Because we only have about a minute left. What’s your final thought you’d like to leave with listeners?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I’d like them to go look for my book, Green Breakdown, The Coming Renewable Energy Failure, and they can get all four of my books at my website, stevegorham.com. And my last three books, in addition to the science and economics, they’re colored paperbacks, and they have all these great sidebars that are real headlines about climate and energy, but they’re crazy. There’s one here about the New York Times essay that says you should mate with short people to save the planet. But that’s just one of 150.
SPEAKER 04 :
That was probably written by a short person, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
So they’re fun reads, but they’ll give people a balanced idea, and then they can go be active in the discussion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and again, that website, Steve? Steve Gorham, G-O-R-E-H-A-M dot com. Okay, Steve, and we’ll get you booked for next month. Thank you so much. Thank you, Kim. And our quote for the end of the show is from Thomas Edison. He says, Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always Americans. America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. So be brave as your fathers before you have faith and go forward. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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