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Join Kim and her guests as they dissect the controversial developments of the Glow Park project, unraveling the complexities of public-private partnerships and the implications of such projects on local communities. Featuring insights from citizen watchdogs and local officials, the discussion highlights the importance of community involvement in preserving representative government. The episode also features contributions from the CUT ratings report and reflections on historical political wisdom, offering listeners a comprehensive understanding of today’s political landscape.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. Happy Wednesday, and we’ve got another jam-packed show planned for you today, so fasten your seatbelts. Wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And also, since it’s Wednesday, that means that it is Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. That’s for to-go or to-dine-in. Their locations are Loveland, Westminster, and on Aurora, in Parker Road on Aurora Road. On Parker Road in Aurora, let me start over on that. So three locations, Westminster, Loveland, and Parker Road. Let’s see, several things. Since we’re so jam-packed, we’re going to get to break a little bit early on this particular topic. segment. But as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It’s not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people’s rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. I’m going to add in a new word, and that is compliance. But certainly Our rights can be taken via weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, compliance, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda, and the globalist leech agenda, which we’ve seen play out through the United Nations and the Colorado State Legislature. But I’m going to give you an example of of this playing out right here in local communities. And we are seeing people in local communities that are becoming active, getting their brains around what’s happening. But this stuff has been coming at us like a freight train. And we’ve been busy with other things and have not been paying attention. So remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And we must get back. We must reclaim representative government. And that’s why these elections are so important. We will be talking with Harry Howry with Unite for Freedom, formerly United Sovereign Americans, regarding our lawsuit that we helped fund that they put in place and also their Jefferson County Prevalence Voter Study. He will be the featured guest in this hour. We focus on the issues, not the personalities. We’ll mention the people that are pushing these issues. And a perfect example for you to be able to do your own research. I got it to the printer a couple of days ago, and that is the CUT ratings report for the 2025 legislature and governor. And we will be publishing that very soon. But as a friend of mine had mentioned, CUT is your shortcut to know what’s going on. It’s only $25 to join us. and that’s about $2.08 a month, which is less than a cup of coffee. And it can be your tool to get an understanding of what’s happening because it’s almost like there is so much out there. How do you sift through all that? And we at the Kim Monson Show are helping you do that and also would have you recommend that you join CUT. And I wanted to mention my fellow board members and say thank you to them. And that’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And when you see these folks out there, be sure and say thank you. And thank you to Charisse for our word of the day. This is going to be a fun one to say. You can probably say it all day long. And that is Snallygoster. And it is spelled S-N-O-L-L-Y-G-O-S-T-E-R. It’s a noun. It could be one, especially a politician who is guided by personal advantage rather than by consistent, respectable principles. Number two, it could be a shrewd person not guided by principles, especially a politician. And it looks to me, I went to a meeting last night that was held by residents of Cherry Creek North. And, of course, that’s a very well-to-do area. But what is being proposed is being proposed by, say, Snollygosters. And it’s called a GID, a General Improvement District. And, my friends, as I looked at what this GID could do, first of all, it will be controlled by people that are appointed. It’s either by the Denver City Council, the mayor, or both. So this board is going to be appointed. The representation of the people of Cherry Creek North on the board would maybe be about 14% of the board, but they would be providing approximately 52% of the revenue for this GID. So this is really getting interesting. to, I would say, taxation without representation. And we’re seeing this all across, well, the metro area, but throughout America. But this GID could do all these things, according to this slide, could be to levy and collect taxes based on your property values, have perpetual existence. There is a GID in Rhino, which is a 20-year term. It could be to borrow money and incur debt, and again, this would be without you having to vote on it, to provide services outside the boundaries of the district, to exercise the power of eminent domain, to fix rates, tolls, or charges for services or facilities furnished by the district, and can place a lien on your property for nonpayment. This is unbelievable. And people are trying to get their brain around it. It’s very interesting. We’ll continue to shed light on this. But I thought that was super interesting. And so that’s where I went to Calvin Coolidge for the quote of the day. And Calvin Coolidge was our 30th president. He was born in 1872. died in 1933. And he said this, he said, unless the people through unified action arise and take charge of their government, they will find that their government has taken charge of them. Independence and liberty will be gone and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish interests also known as Snollygosters. So your challenge is to use Snollygoster in a sentence today. The big news, I think, is probably the Denver Broncos have determined a location for their future new state-of-the-art stadium ending, it says, years of speculation. This is from Axios. Now, this is what they say. They said the new stadium will become the city’s centerpiece and make Denver a contender for major events like the Super Bowl, Final Four and concerts. I’m not quite sure how the well, the Final Four. I thought that was always college basketball. So anyway, that’ll be interesting. It says the Broncos prefer to construct this new stadium at state-owned 58-acre Burnham Yard, a historic former rail yard, where the team recently began acquiring property. Now, don’t you think this is so interesting? They were floating out other locations. In fact, Lone Tree was considered as a location. How is it that they were floating that out there, but also they’d been acquiring property? I find that curious. But it says that it is expected to be privately financed by the Walton family, who leads the ownership group. And I’m glad to hear that it’s privately financed. I find it interesting that it’s on state-owned land. But stay tuned. If it’s privately financed, okay, then there we go. But so stay tuned on that. One other thing. And again, this is from Axios. Colorado counters Trump administration’s COVID vaccine limits. I would like to see Colorado not trying to fight Trump on many of these things. And here we have Trump. The Trump administration is moving Space Force. Now, this again is from Axios. It said Colorado Democrat Governor Jared Polis said that the state will sidestep ridiculous new trump administration restrictions on covet vaccines by issuing its own order the move keeps vaccines widely available in colorado even as federal rules narrow access for millions of americans and i just found that very interesting as well So let’s see. We’ve got a lot going on. Did want to mention Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week that starts this next Monday. It kicks off with Rob Nadelson and the keynote speaker on the 20th, which I will be emceeing the event, is Jonathan Turley. which he is a nationally known expert on the Constitution. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Pleased to have on the line with me Mike Rolick. You know him. He is a citizen watchdog. And Adrian Waller, who is with Pleasant View Metro District. Mike, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Ken. How’s it going?
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Well, and Adrian, welcome as well. So let’s get right to it, Mike. You are, and I was thinking of you and also this meeting I was at last night for Cherry Creek North. This is happening all over the metro area where people are finally starting to pay attention to what’s going on. And so you are concerned about this Glow Park development. So for people that did not hear our previous discussion on this, set this up for us, Mike.
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Okay, sounds good. There was a land swap that Adrian can kind of give some more information about, but there was a land swap that had happened between Jeffco, the state, and the federal government was also a participant in this situation where Jeffco Open Space had gotten 160 acres on South Table Mountain Exchange for about 9.3 acres just south of the MRAL area. And that was going to be an expansion for some renewable research and technology campus. And now it has switched to a housing site. The state owns the land and under two bills that were passed in 2022, they can now use quote unquote unused real property in a public private partnership situation with a 99 year ground lease and to now start creating housing to quote unquote, fix the housing crisis. Everything works for the crisis. So it’s, it’s a little, it’s a little dubious in my view to keep on saying everything’s a crisis. So therefore we must circumvent normal processes and go for things in an expedited manner. And I will just say this from the request for quote that has been put out for this particular project. They do discuss that. It says the department anticipates a developer will take the lead on any permitting and entitlement process, but in this case, a location and extent process will be used that will vastly expedite the zoning and permitting necessary. Right there. Right there, they’re trying to say, we need to get this through as quickly as possible. So we’ll circumvent normal rezoning laws. And you and I and Natalie had talked about how rezoning can be a force for freedom or for constraint. And in this situation, circumventing these laws will get the will of the state done a little faster. So I don’t know how this fits into freedom.
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The housing project itself is up to eight stories and 42 units per acre.
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Okay, well, Adrian Waller, welcome, and you are with the Pleasant View Metro District. So what’s your perspective on this?
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Thank you for having me on the phone call this morning. And, yeah, our perspective is just as a longtime community member and board president for the Metro District. Been here 30 years. We are not in Golden and we are not in Lakewood. We’re unincorporated Jefferson County, maybe 2,200 homes and a few businesses sprinkled in. NRail is the big behemoth here that builds like crazy. And so when they did this land swap, the community was quite frustrated because they took nine acres of park land, but it was out of our control because the park is technically owned by Jefferson County Open Space. But nonetheless, we went along with it, getting some things for the community for ourselves, some money from open space to improve our parks. But with the idea that it was going to be a 9 o’clock to 5 o’clock research facility for, let’s say, PhD-type people that come from around the world, to study next door to NREL campus and be in collaboration. But then all of a sudden, about a month ago, we didn’t receive an email directly, but indirectly, because they need approval from the fire chief to proceed with some things. And he forwarded to me and And it’s kind of a switcheroo where all of a sudden it went from this research facility to be this, we’ll call it high density housing for stuff that just does not fit our community. We have no buildings here in the community. that are over four stories, only one, and that was just recently built. Everything else falls under the Jefferson County rule of 35 feet in height. So the community is quite upset. And last night we had a very effective meeting with the state representative, Blue Cordova was here, and she’s the one that’s been pushing the glow park and all of a sudden did the switch. And so the community meeting was one for her to, to come out and say what the state wanted to do. But then we gave opportunity, you know, the three minutes of conversation back at her and more than 100 people were present last night.
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Boy, this is, as you mentioned, a switcheroo. And I’m seeing headlines everywhere. There was a headline I was looking at this morning that in Westminster, it says Colorado residents and council split on the proposal to build senior living community on open space. So we have been funding open space for many years through the Colorado, I think, lottery program. And I think people have liked the idea of open space. But what’s happened is then government is buying up more and more of this land. And I think people thought that that was open space. And that’s a whole different discussion. But now open space is being… repurposed over here for an eight-story apartment building, in essence. Right, Mike?
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A little bit like that. And also, well, first of all, Jeffco Open Space is funded by a half-cent sales tax as opposed to the lottery. So it might be different in other portions of the state. I don’t know. But this was a land swap to the state. And then the state says… Well, we have unused property. And in these two bills that were passed in 2022, they’re allowed to use their unused property through the Department of Personnel Administration, the DPA. And then they’re allowed to do these public-private partnerships. What’s interesting is right in the request for quote, they kind of play the blame game a little bit. It says here, prior to 2025, the state’s plan for the land was to build clean energy labs in partnership with NREL. The funding for NREL to expand into these labs has been suspended during this federal administration. So the purpose has turned to housing. From what I understand from talking to Adrian, it was also going to be a private entity funding the new labs, and they were just waiting for the correct partner, and they haven’t found one yet, as opposed to things being suspended by the federal administration. Adrian, what do you know about that one?
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Yes, that’s correct. All of it, all along, has supposed to have been a private-public partnership. So the only thing the state would own is the 9.27 acres that was swapped with them for more open space near and on top of Table Mountain, South Table Mountain. So, yeah, all along, it was supposed to be a private partner. And then even last night at the meeting, the state representative said, due to the current climate in government, you know, that we’ve now had to change our focus.
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So a subtle way to blame Trump as they’re in these particular meetings instead of their own taking responsibility for that, in my humble opinion. So, Adrian, what you had this meeting last night. So what do you what do you think is going to happen? What’s the next step on all this?
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Well, we’re hoping that, again, the state representative, Lou, that was here, she gets the message that the community is not interested whatsoever and to stick with the plan. I’ve also been in communication with the mayor of Golden, the city manager of Golden, and then… And they’re not for it either. Already our little corridor here in the Golden Valley, South Golden Road, is just so choked with car traffic that we’re hoping that she gets the message that this is just not the right piece of land to be doing this on. And, you know, just like you said a minute ago, we see the same notes, you know, in different postings of various cities. I think there’s like 14 different projects that are being proposed or so that are all on these land owned by the state but are seeking private partnership. So, I mean, the next step is if she didn’t hear it loud and clear last night from 100 residents, there was only one person for the project. the housing and the other people that all spoke were all against it, then is to look for some legal ways to slow the machine down aside from whatever else we can put into play.
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Boy, and that’s so expensive. Hiring attorneys is so expensive. And, of course, government seems in some ways unlimited money. It’s our money. But to hire attorneys, we have to then hire our own attorneys to… Because our representatives are not representing us, we the people, but special interests. Public-private partnerships are a real problem. And I didn’t quite understand them when I first got on city council. I was on council 2012 to 2016. But in essence, it seems to put the risk to the public, to us, the taxpayers, the private component. They are able then to work with government to… basically that they would have the positives of the whole public-private partnership, but the risk really goes to the taxpayer. And then the other thing I’m troubled about is, and you hit this, Mike, is the fast-tracking of permits, and it’s like they’re not having to play by the same rules as everybody else. And when we’ve been talking about the FWLA rules, French Bakery, which is up on Lookout Mountain, they just need a variance so that they can keep their tiny homes on that property. And Jefferson County seems to be responding with a very iron fist on that. So I find it so interesting that fast permitting over here and no flexibility someplace else. That’s why we’ve got to reclaim our representative government, Mike Rolick.
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well i would tend to agree um again as you spoke last time about this we’re not really thinking that jefferson county is in tune with this proposal um from what we’ve seen in the meetings and the videos uh they’re dubious as well but the state is forcing the location and extent process which means that even if the planning commission This would not be a board of county commissioner vote. That’s not how a location and extent process works. But even if the planning commission says no, the state, because they’d be financing or otherwise authorizing this under state statute, they can say, well, thank you very much. We’re going to do what we want anyway, which really lets us all know who really owns the land. We had talked about fee simple versus a low deal title. We’re in a fee simple situation. The state co-owns or even our private property with us as it were, because we don’t have a low deal title here to stay at the outright on the land. They say, guess what? You know, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll play nice as a formality. That’s like a location extent process is. But if you don’t go along with what we wish, we’re just going to appeal it back to ourselves and make the decision that we want anyway. And that was iterated during one of the meetings on video with the county, not as a threat, but just as an awareness that that could happen in this situation.
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Mike, I appreciate you clarifying this for me because it is complicated. And I did not quite understand that it’s really the state that’s doing this and not Jefferson County. So I appreciate you clarifying because we really do want to get it right. And this is a very important issue. Adrienne, let’s go to you first. What is your final thought right now that you want our listeners to be contemplating on today?
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I think the most important thing that we all have to do is just have our voice be heard instead of just being steamrolled over by what appears to be a larger entity moving forward like the state on these projects. And last night, you know, just I was very impressed with the community coming out, and I see that more and more that the community is pushing back. And so when citizens feel like something doesn’t sound right, smell right, We need to stand up and get informed and then participate in all of these governmental proceedings to make sure that our voices are heard.
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Very good. And this came in on the text line, Mike, before I get your final thought. And it is, thank you, Jenny. She said, they get the money by open space tax and then they can apply for matching grants from the Colorado Great Outdoors, the lottery-funded Parks, Trails, Wildlife Areas Act. and the Great Outdoors Trust Fund. So thank you for that clarification. And yes, Mike, thank you for reminding me that many of these counties have sales tax makes life more expensive for all of us for open space. Mike, what is the final thought you’d like our listeners to contemplate today?
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You know, as a long time ago, Rahm Emanuel, I believe, made that quote famous, never let a good crisis go to waste. We have to be very careful when we say, oh, there must be a crisis going on, such as a housing crisis. On November 7th, the State Demography Office will be having their annual meeting. It sounds really boring, but it’s actually a really good day, and it’s on Zoom. I went last year, then I was able to kind of dive more into their website. I just want to bring this up. This is in unincorporated Jefferson County. And since 2020 through 2024, the population in unincorporated, not total because there’s obviously cities involved, population has declined from 199,077 down to 196,948. Our vacancy rate has remained stable at 4.28%. And total housing units has risen from 81,014 up to 83,789. I’ve seen other indicators that say the housing is moving in the right direction. Golden’s vacancy rate from the same website, the State Demography Office, is in the sevens, 7% vacancy rate. for one, don’t see a crisis here. And I see housing is free market-wise starting to move in the right direction. I don’t know why we need a public-private partnership to put in this many units in a fast-track method that circumvents local rezoning at all.
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Good point. Okay, well, Mike Rollick, thank you so much. And thank you so much, Adrian Waller. We’ll stay in touch on all this.
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Thank you.
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Hi, Kim. Nice to be here.
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Good to have you. And your credentials are pretty impressive. And so give us just a quick synopsis of you and then why you were a co-founder of Unite for Freedom.
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So that’s a long story. I’ll try to condense it as much as possible. But I have been a cybersecurity-focused person. person for about 40 years. And operational security. It’s a large part of what I did in federal government contracting work that I did with the Defense Department and various intelligence agencies. I happened to come back to the United States after an extended period abroad in 2019. There’s a lot of things that are seemingly going wrong in the country, not the least of which was COVID. But as the election started forming up on the horizon, it became more and more apparent that there were issues that needed to be addressed. As a result of a number of coincidental matters, I became involved in the election integrity discussion. peripherally in the spring of 2020. From there, I was asked immediately after the election by a number of people to help with statistical and voter analysis. It has to do with Not only am I a cyber expert, I helped as one of many, just to be clear, but helped to write the operational guidance and many of the material aspects of the Help America Vote Act in the year 2000. The reason primarily was because John Ashcroft, a former Missouri governor and senator, was George Bush’s point man on the 2000 election challenge. And out of that 2000 election mess came the Help America Vote Act, which was kind of a compromise, primarily by senators. and the administration as to how to potentially reform national elections. But I’ve testified on election matters. I am considered both a system matter expert in cybersecurity matters, particularly from an architectural and vulnerability perspective, and have worked extensively in these areas over my career, as well as… you know, being deeply involved and understanding the genesis of and the intent of the Help America Vote Act when it was created. In 2020, I start working primarily, I mean, I was involved in a lot of the legal efforts, but supporting the Amistad Project, Phil Klein’s Claremont Institute Project, trying to figure out, you know, what was happening with the Zuckerberg dollars or the Zuck bucks, as it became known, and also, you know, tantalizing evidence of flagrant and casual disregard for the law, not just HABA, but, you know, the National Voter Registration Act and a number of other matters. As we saw in 2020, the judges were pretty much dismissing standing by normal citizens, which I can’t imagine how that is a proper interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, but at least so far it hasn’t been able to be brought in front of the Supreme Court as a constitutional question. But we have been challenging on an ongoing basis the conduct of the election in many states, including Colorado, obviously. And we just are in the process of appealing an initial decision to dismiss our case. in Colorado, but we feel confident that we can use this as a vehicle to get in front of the Supreme Court. Of course, the judges make these decisions, not the citizens. But as a group, we continue to fight for awareness of what is happening and have done deep and broad statistical analysis of the election results and the election data. And we have analyzed the mischief, if you will, or the conduct outside of the law in over 30 states, including Colorado, for 2022 and 2024.
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So Harry Howry, our listeners and followers stepped forward to raise the money regarding this lawsuit that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress for elections. And then that lawsuit was amended the first part of August. So what’s the status on this right now?
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So it’s still going through that process. We filed that amendment, and there will be motion practice associated with trying to get it dismissed again and all of those types of things. It’s our intention, if it’s dismissed again at this level, is to – and, of course, we have to look at what happens in the district courts, but – It is our intention to drive this all the way to the Supreme Court. We think Colorado has some unique aspects of what they do in elections that we think are particularly difficult under the federal law. And, you know, we think it’s a logical and proper vehicle for, you know, taking the process as far to the mat as we have to. you know, of course we can’t in this day and age guarantee, um, you know, federal lawsuit outcomes, but we, you know, have, uh, you know, focused on Colorado actually, uh, as the most important, uh, piece of ongoing federal, like, you know, litigation that we’re, um, attacking. So I can’t predict what will happen with the new amendment, but, uh, you know, we adjusted our standing arguments and, uh, a little bit of other framework. We were given that leave by the court and filed the amended petition. It’s being considered, if you will, by the district courts at this point. We’ll see whether we get hearings or if we get some summary judgment. If we get a summary judgment, we’ll try to get it reheard with an official hearing. In Colorado, if we’re denied that, we’ll go to the appeals court and pursue it through the appeals process. The critical activity, because we’ve known from the beginning for a couple of reasons. The first is particularly with the narrowing of district districts. authority, the judges no longer can really make decisions pertinent to national cause. So, you know, to fix this through litigation, We need to pick a horse, and when we started all of our litigation, it must be understood that it was at least possible to get a district court to rule on a national matter, but the Supreme Court has narrowed it now, eliminating the, you know, in recent decisions by the Supreme Court, eliminating the automatic ability to apply a district or a circuit rule a court of appeals decision to the entire country. So we actually need to force this to the Supreme Court so that we can get a finding of law that applies to the whole country. So people should not be discouraged. It’s our intention to take it to the Supreme Court. And we believe that Colorado will do all it can, the judges and the state, to The force is through the appeals process, which we fully intend to pursue.
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Okay. And Colorado, I do think, is at the tip of the spear. There’s a lot of things that are happening, obviously, in our country. We’re going to continue the discussion with Harry Howry, who is the chairman and co-founder of Unite for Freedom, formerly known as United Sovereign Americans. These discussions happen. We’ll talk with him in the next hour, and that is Lorne Levy regarding everything mortgages.
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Yes, and welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s kimmonson.com. And Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week begins next Monday. And on Saturday, the 20th, is the main event. And they are pleased to announce that there will be a meet and greet with Professor Jonathan Turley. And you can get your tickets by going to grandlakeusconstitutionweek.com. I will be emceeing the main event. Very excited about that. So join us. And again, all that information is at GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com. On the line with me is Harry Howry. He is a co-founder and chairman of Unite for Freedom, formerly known as United Sovereign Americans. And Harry, our listeners and followers came together and raised money for a study regarding Jefferson County and their elections. And I… had talked with you all about this because there had been a very interesting voter prevalence study in Orange County, California, which had indicated that there was, in that study, nearly 20% of the voters either should not have received ballots, were illegal, phantom voters. So that’s why we did this study here for Jefferson County. And so read us through the results on that and explain the credentials of the prevalence study as well.
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So the issue with regard to most of our studies has been that they’ve come from the voter registration rules. And it’s obvious when we do this analysis at a cursory level that there are significant defects with regard to state administration and voter registration rules all over the country. But when we looked at Colorado as a state, as an example, in 2022, We find almost 1.5 million voter registration errors that affect over 100,000 votes that are registered. So we looked at a number of counties. It’s quite expensive to do these studies, but the prevalent studies are essentially looking at a subset of of data, usually county-directed, although we’ve done a couple that have not been county-directed. And we do a statistically valid random sample using NIST random sample tables, and we pick a number of people according to what’s called a, well, its purpose is to use an accepted statistical mechanism for evaluating what the prevalence of a particular state is. It could be whether or not somebody’s had the flu, as an example. Same kind of statistical analysis that the CDC uses to try to evaluate the spread of disease or the way that a researcher would be trying to establish whether or not some process works. In this particular case, what we did was prevalence studies for a number of counties, which included a deep dive on identity. The reason we did this was that almost no state in the country is doing an adequate job of verifying identity. So what we were trying to do was determine in a blind fashion, on a statistically valid basis, whether or not data was being, you know, whether identity was being validated. Now, the problem, you know, that people have is they don’t, you know, sometimes understand the statistical analysis, but the What we’re trying to do is determine the prevalence or the percentage on a statistical basis in Jefferson County of people that do not appear to have valid identities. And we’re using… commercially available research databases that are used for skip tracing and, you know, credit authorization, this type of thing. These are not deep analysis. We aren’t getting into, you know, PII per se. What we’re doing is hiring, you know, licensed investigators to look at the data and see whether or not these – you know, these individuals can be found, you know, are they, you know, able to be located anywhere or if they’re not able to be located anywhere, you know, we go a little bit deeper and, and see, uh, you know, what can be found to at least possibly corroborate, uh, the existence of the voters. So the result in Jefferson County was, you know, quite, you know, significant, um, When we look at the percentages, and it’s for all sorts of reasons. We can’t find the individual. The date of birth and the registration records don’t match commercially available databases. The addresses don’t match on that individual. No dates of residency at the particular address are found. The Social Security… number is is locatable but and again we didn’t get into any of this ourselves we used a blind relationship with investigators that are licensed to look at this data and then whether or not the individuals lived at the address at some point in time but didn’t live at the address at the time of the election so you know all of these bring in the direct question and we’re not accusing any individuals we of you know misconduct what we’re trying to do is determine whether or not the states are making any even cursory attempt to determine whether people are legitimate voters or not and you have to understand the law the responsibility is on the state to do these verifications and what we can prove with these studies is that the state is not exercising their statutory duty to know under the Constitution that the people that are being given ballots, whether they’re mail-in or in person, when they’re being given ballots, whether or not these people are legitimate, eligible citizens according to constitutional and state requirements. Also, people don’t understand under the federal law, the state law becomes the federal requirement. It’s the stick, if you will, that’s used to measure whether or not they’re complying with the federal law. The states have the authority to establish certain rules with regard to eligibility, but in the end, they have to meet the constitutional requirement of eligibility. meeting state eligibility and the test of whether they’re U.S. citizens or not. So when we look at Jefferson County, we see, you know, significant, you know, violations. You know, the voters just not in compliance, you know, is, you know, approaching five percent of the total, which, you know, every I try to get into this people, you know, the judges, in my estimation, incorrectly uh, evaluate materiality. When you, when you get into a uncertainty about 5% of the, of the voters, almost 5% of the voters, you end up in a situation where any, any, uh, any result that has a margin of victory, less than 5% is, is drawn into direct question. You don’t know, uh, you know, how these errors, um, you know, might affect the outcome. But the fact is that the state is not making any valid attempt to eliminate these voters that can’t be easily verified. So now, are there ways to do that? Yes, of course. But the states, you know, Colorado in particular, but most of the states are not taking steps to verify identity. And that’s actually a requirement under law that You know, most people don’t know that, but they aren’t allowed to give you a ballot unless they know who you are. It’s kind of the KYC of election systems, right? So the banks require identity to have a checking account. The election system requires identity in order for you to get a ballot. So we think these are flagrant violations of the law. It’s a dereliction of duty by election officials not to make cursory attempts to do this. And by the way, it’s quite cheap. I mean, at scale, using these credit authorization processes and a little deeper dive than just regular credit authorization, an actual identity verification process, It only costs a few cents a person, so it’s not a major cost for a state to do this, and it can be completely automated. So there’s no excuse for them not to do identity verification, and the states have access under law to identity verification databases at the federal government level, which are much better than what we can do.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, Harry, Harry Howry, we are out of time. This is absolutely fascinating. And you can get more information by going to their website, and that is UniteTheNumberForFreedom.com, UniteTheNumberForFreedom.com. And, my friends, our quote for the end of the show is Calvin Coolidge. He said, by urgent public necessity and sound public policy is not a protector of liberty, but an instrument of tyranny. It condemns the citizen to servitude. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Wednesday, Producer Joe. Quite the first hour that we had. If people missed it, they can listen to it one to two in the afternoon, Joe. And I appreciate you running the boards for us.
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It’s my pleasure, Kim, and happy Wednesday to you as well.
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And let’s go ahead and jump into our word of the day. Thank you to Charisse for this. This is a fun word to say, but kind of concerned about the people that it’s defining, and that is snollygoster. And it’s spelled S-N-O-L-L-Y-G-O-S-T-E-R. It’s a noun. And it could be one, especially a politician who is guided by personal advantage rather than by consistent, respectable principles. Or it could be a shrewd person not guided by principles, especially a politician. And we need to have elected representatives. We need to understand politics. what representative government is supposed to be. We need to reclaim our Constitution. What that means, that’s why what’s happening up at Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week beginning on Monday is amazing for this little community to put this together. Grand Lake is truly a gem as far as Americana, and I love it. I’m excited to be the emcee on the 20th. But it kicks off on Monday with Rob Nadelson talking about ancient Rome and the Constitution and just a lot of great information. So go check them out, GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com, because when we talk about local government, And people think that local government means that they’re representing us. Well, as I mentioned in the first hour, I attended this meeting for the Cherry Creek North Concerned Citizens regarding this GID, which is a general improvement district. And my friends, what this GID could do, it stops me in my tracks. It’s being put together by Schnelligoster’s. And the people of North Cherry Creek, which is a very well-to-do area, but ultimately what is occurring is Snelling Gosters are trying to get to a point where I think they’re going to try to tax people out of their property. So even though people are well-to-do there, more and more taxes, taking money via taxes, then redistributing it to these pet projects. When we talked with Mike Rollick and Adrian Waller about what’s happening with the Glow Park development, This is happening at the local level. So the most local of all government is ourselves. And so we need to make sure that we are working to live our lives with principles. Now, we know that we are fallible people, and that’s why Christ going to the cross for us is so important. But even though we are imperfect people, we can strive for these high ideals and virtues, which were set forth in our declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. So that means government should be limited. The founders understood that. And that’s how we got to the Constitution. So when I went to this meeting. And it was up on the screen. And again, I don’t I did not take a picture of this other screen, but I should have. But I think they said that. So this would not this GID would not be governed by representative government. It would be appointed by PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties. and the people of North Cherry Creek would provide 52% of the tax revenue, but only have 14% representation. Do you not see a problem with that? But then in addition, this GID could levy and collect taxes based on property values, have perpetual existence, borrow money and incur debt, Provide services outside the boundaries of the district. Exercise the power of eminent domain to fix rates, tolls or charges for services or facilities furnished by the district and could place a lien on your property for nonpayment. This should stop all of us in our tracks. And so we need to understand what’s going on and the idea that you think local government has your best interests in mind. Many times they are – and it could be very well-meaning people – uh that they think that they have a good idea but it’s outside the scope of what government is supposed to do so i went to this quote from calvin coolidge our 30th president born in 1872 died in 1933 he had a reputation as a small government conservative and he said this unless the people through unified action arise and take charge of their government they will find that their government has taken charge of them independence and liberty will be gone, and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish interests, also known as nollygosters. And so ruminate on that today. And pleased to have on the line with me one of our great sponsors, and that is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. Lorne, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good morning, Kim. and uh let’s talk about what’s happening in the mortgage arena right now uh what should people know lauren yeah so right now we um you know you and i talk a lot about the 10-year treasury and it’s down below 410 for a little bit here which is nice so rates have come down a bit we’re seeing several opportunities for refinances which is excellent for people to help them save some money I would tell you as we headed into the Fed meeting next week, people are excited. They think the Fed’s going to cut, but no one really knows what that might mean. So right now there’s an opportunity, and I would encourage anybody who has an interest rate that’s bought within the last couple of years that might have an interest rate 699, 7 or above. to call it and leave to get stuff like a shell built and have a conversation so that opportunity to strike is now and could be even potentially better. We’ll see what happens to the reaction from the Fed.
SPEAKER 18 :
Lauren, I actually woke up very early and I was thinking about our conversation today. And so let’s say somebody has purchased their home within the last couple of years and they have that 6.99 rate. Because there’s more inventory and we’ve seen some downward pressure on some of the housing prices in the metro area, would somebody get caught that they have this higher… rate, but yet their property may have gone down in value to try to do a refinance, would they maybe have to bring some money to the table on equity or what could that look like?
SPEAKER 16 :
I understand your question totally. And it depends, you know, it depends what they put down. It depends what the comps in their particular area, you know, within a mile of their home look like. It depends if an appraisal is even required. A especially if it’s just refinancing a home to get a lower rate. Sometimes the system through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s algorithms won’t require an appraisal. So that would take that away. But I mean, I guess it is a possibility. I don’t think that we’re seeing too much of, we are seeing some price reductions. There’s no doubt about that, but I don’t think they’re large enough and on the scale that we haven’t run into that yet where someone is trying to refinance and They go to get an appraisal and it comes in too low or they have to bring money. They may not have the appreciation from when they bought in the last two years if they’re trying to get equity out or something like that. But as far as the prices holding up on an appraisal, they seem to be doing pretty well.
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Okay, good. Yeah, I guess thank you for understanding my question. I think that’s what that really was. So next question, preparing for potential reduction in mortgage rates. You’re recommending that people call. There are those that I know that are looking at things saying, oh, I’m going to wait until interest rates go to this, that they’re down this much. Then if they haven’t prepared and called you first. then the delay could cost them. Yes or no? I’m trying to figure out.
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It takes a little while to get connected and then to do things like, you know, do the application, bring in the credit report, things like that. It doesn’t take, you know, it’s not a super long process, but things move, rates move. Mortgage rates change sometimes during the day and it can change more than once depending on data. You know, today we got data just this morning about the PPI, the producer price index, which came in a little lower, which was nice. It showed a lack of inflation at the producer level, which now people are saying, you know, might spur the Fed even more to cut next week because the Fed’s biggest fears are, you know, coming in and making a cut and then spiking inflation. So if they see that prices are down at the producer level, that could help them. But there could be another data point tomorrow that shows something else. And so rates change. So we always suggest to be prepared and always look at the numbers. I had a lady that I was talking to yesterday who told me that her real estate agent had told her that it’s not, doesn’t make sense to refinance unless you can lower your interest rate by two points. So she was at six and a half. So that means she was going to wait till four and a half. She might be waiting a very, very long time. Um, if ever. And so what I explained to her is everyone’s different. It depends on the size of your loan. Loans are bigger these days because homes are more expensive. If someone can save you $250 a month, but that only knocks a half percent off your interest rate, that’s still $250 a month. That’s $3,000 hard-earned a year after tax dollars. So every case is individual. I don’t like when I hear advice like that. So you should always have the conversation and see if it makes sense to you. How much does it cost to do the loan? What’s the breakeven analysis on the cost? And that’s how we determine if it’s worthwhile or not.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and I love the fact, Lorne, that you work with many different companies, so you’ve got a lot of choices for people. And also you can help people in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. How can people reach you for a conversation?
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The best way is always just give us a call, 303-880-8881. Again, that’s everything mortgages for Lorne Levy, 303-880-8881.
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And I think you’re going to be in studio next week, so I’ll be looking forward to that. Okay, great.
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Thanks so much, Kim.
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Thanks, Kim. Shedding light’s a good idea.
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Yes, light is a good antiseptic to all that’s going on out there. Now, you probably didn’t hear our word of the day, and I’ll ask you if you know what it means. Snallygoster, and thank you to Cherise for submitting that. Do you know what a snallygoster is?
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I have no earthly idea, nor would I have any idea how to spell it to look it up.
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It is S-N-O-L-L-Y-G-O-S-T-E-R. One, especially a politician who is guided by personal advantage rather than by consistent respectable principles. Or number two, a shrewd person not guided by principles, especially a politician. I bet you’re going to be using this.
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Well, I’m glad those don’t exist.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, we’ve got a lot to talk about. But before we get into all of that, I texted you, and I don’t know if you saw it or not, but our friend Eric Manning passed on last week. And as I was thinking about it, remember that morning? It was a cold morning. It was the National Western. I was going to come out and broadcast there, and then I guess I was on your show first, and then I broadcast. And Eric was adamant that he wanted to get some of his burritos to us. And I just what a great friend and patriot of both mine and yours.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I didn’t see that until you sent me the note. And absolutely, I remember that morning and I remember virtually every one of his calls. I really appreciate you bringing that to my attention. He’ll be missed.
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He will really be missed. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. First thing, you recently did a show regarding AI data centers and the strain on local resources. And I had Wendy Volk on the show recently. Volk on the show a little over a week ago, and then you had her on your show as well. She lives up in Cheyenne. She’s a realtor there, and they’re concerned regarding a huge industrial wind project that’s going on up there, ostensibly to help provide power for these data centers, and there’s a whole bunch that are being proposed in Cheyenne. So what more have you found out, Trent Luce?
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Well, there are data centers approved, I’m told the ninth one in Cheyenne, that will use one gigawatt of electricity 24-7. That’s equivalent to five times the number of homes in the entire state of Wyoming. And the project you speak of is in Laramie County. And that’s all wind, but just in the neighboring county to the north, Chugwater or Platt County, they have wind, solar, and battery development. So, I mean, it’s just bombarding this area. And fortunately, we have champions, but there’s not a lot of time. I mean, they’re trying to move quickly, and anybody listening in that area, we need to engage now and let local officials know what you think of this resource depletion. I did find some other information because it’s been really hard to come by, and that is that the amount of water used in two things, AI, and Phoenix is now the third fastest growing place. No, Phoenix is second. Dallas is third. Fastest growing place, Las Vegas, combining Las Vegas and Reno, which doesn’t make any sense to me because Las Vegas and Reno are like 300 miles apart, but. Hey, they’re both in Nevada, so they lump them together. So that’s the fastest growing spot. And then you’ve got Phoenix, and then you’ve got Dallas. And I’ve been to the Dallas region where they are trying to consume, take water away, literally take water away. Anybody wants to search the Marv Nichols Project, they’re trying to expand water, take land via eminent domain. And they say it’s for the people of Dallas. Well, it’s really for the AI centers. And in Phoenix alone… They’re talking about each AI center is going to use 177 million gallons of water a day.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and that’s a bunch. One thing I wanted to ask you about, though, somebody said that the AI data centers, that they do reuse water. So I just wanted to clarify, somebody said that. It’s still a lot of water.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s a closed system. It’s a closed system where the water is recycled and cooled. But you have to cool it. You’ve got to get it back to a cool state. And there’s a percentage of evaporation, but it doesn’t detract from the point that it uses 177 million gallons of water a day. That’s 177 million gallons that will not be used in the middle of a desert for food production. So, yes, they have a closed-loop system, but it’s still water use, and there’s still evaporation that takes place.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, great. Thank you for clarifying that. Years and years ago, I spent some time in the Tucson area. And because of irrigation, it was a very fertile farmland. They were able to raise cotton and crops in the Tucson area because of water. So taking this water from, as you say, food production, which ultimately… if we keep going down this road, people are going to starve, I think, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
There’s no think about it, Kim, and that’s what I’m fighting on a daily basis. And yesterday, I got two more calls. You know, in a week that our elected officials, if they’re elected, in D.C., and the appointed ones, such as Brooke Rollins with the USDA, are talking about the threat of China purchasing land. I got two calls yesterday, just like a normal day, one from Clint Thomas in Jordan, Montana. He’s been, his family is third generation having a marina around Fort Peck, and government, this happens to be the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, is coming in and basically telling them they can’t own any more land. And this is part of the family, and the land goes back to when Fort Peck was created as an irrigation system for local farmers. And in exchange for some land that his family owned that they put into Fort Peck, into the river or the lake, his family was given nine sections of land in another area. And now they’ve whittled it down to where they can’t even own that. I get a call from Iowa, same thing. We want to take land for energy production. I am much more concerned about what is happening with the federal government taking land than I am anything about China. And I try to make that point every single day.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and I’ve had listeners, one of the times we had a conversation about Brooke Rollins is that we see embedded in many of these bureaucracies people that want to slow down the Trump agenda, that they are digging their heels in. And so I think it’s a tall order for her to try to get all of this under control that’s why it’s important that you shed light on it that i shed light on it as well but there are those that those career bureaucrats that are i think just trying to slow things down maybe at the army corps of engineers uh wielding their power we’ve gotta we’ve gotta get this stopped though uh trent lose i had no way shape or form believe that to be true really
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OK, no, no. I continue to have people who are close to the scene tell me that the rhetoric that comes out of anybody in the Trump team is never going to match what’s happening on the ground because they want to continue to fool you until you have your back against the wall and can’t do anything about it. Gosh, OK, well, we’re going to no way, shape or form that camp.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, Trent Luce, you and I are both… Can I give you one example of Trump, what I’m talking about?
SPEAKER 18 :
Sure. So…
SPEAKER 09 :
You recently remember this summer that Donald Trump himself went to the UK, sat down and got a ton of press about he reached a trade negotiation with the UK and then he did the same thing with the EU. And everybody’s talking about, oh, my goodness, this is wonderful. We’re going to be trading. We’ve got a free trade agreement with the UK and the EU. First of all, there is a U.S. Trade Representative’s office that is supposed to do that. Why did he do that himself? Well, I contend he did that because he wanted to press, he wanted to make it look like he’s out working to get trading partners. Right now, today, as we stand here on September the 10th, there is not one bushel of corn or soybeans that has been committed to by China to purchase from this upcoming crop. We are going to have the largest corn and soybean crop, arguably, in the history of the United States agricultural system. Typically, China purchases 25% of the U.S. soybean crop and a significant percentage of the U.S. corn crop. We export about 20% total. And of that, China buys more than all other countries combined. And they do not have one order for U.S. farm products at this moment in time because there’s a 35% tariff. If you look at the taxes they have to pay, plus the additional tariff that Trump just put on there. So our number one customer for benefiting American farmers across this country… is completely being ignored. And he did this the last time he was in office. And I justified it to many people within agriculture, because what did he do? He stopped our trading with China. Ultimately, he did get phase one of the China deal later, but what he did was he stopped it early, and then he rolled out all of these massive subsidies to compensate for what we didn’t do with China. We don’t want subsidies. We want to produce the highest quality food in the world and trade it with people who want to eat the products that we produce. It’s the rhetoric that doesn’t match what’s happening on the ground that continues to concern me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and I want to say that with other guests in other industries, they’ve been very happy with what Trump has done.
SPEAKER 09 :
I would love for one of them to tell me what he has done on the ground that’s made a difference.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I will go to work on that for you, Trent Luce. But I’m intrigued. So first of all, China has been charging, my understanding, they’ve been charging tariffs on our products going to China or India or these other countries. And Trump, with these tariffs, has said, well, if you want access to our markets, then you need to reduce your tariffs. I think he’s also using tariffs as a negotiation tool with China. But if China has not put in any orders, But they have been, in the past, importing these American crops to China. Where are they going to make that up at?
SPEAKER 05 :
Brazil.
SPEAKER 18 :
Because there’s no way Brazil. Is Brazil producing as much as we do?
SPEAKER 09 :
Brazil is the number one soybean producing nation in the world.
SPEAKER 18 :
So where is so then but who they’ve been selling to then?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I absolutely know where you’re going. What we’ve had happen in the United States and there could be a really good discussion about, well, we just need to find a way to use this more domestically. Well, 50 percent of the U.S. soybean crop has been going into biofuels. And so we could continue to expand that and not rely on the politics of trade around the world. But truth of the matter is that we’ve been the breadbasket feeding the world. And all of a sudden now we’re the number one beef importer in the world. Why is the United States of America the number one beef importing nation in the world? We have the resources here.
SPEAKER 18 :
This didn’t just happen since January 20th. No, that’s correct. That’s a true story.
SPEAKER 09 :
But we have in 2025 a $59 billion agricultural trade deficit.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we’re not doing anything to fix it.
SPEAKER 09 :
We’ve only made it worse.
SPEAKER 18 :
It seems to me, though, then if China is going in and buying more of the products from Brazil, whoever Brazil was selling to before, they’re going to be looking for products. So it seems like we as the United States could step in there to fill that demand.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s the exact argument I used when he did this the last time in the first term. And what has happened since then, what it is, except what has happened, is that farmers have become reliant on a subsidy payment instead of producing and getting paid a fair price.
SPEAKER 18 :
But that didn’t happen just under the Trump administration. That happened really, wouldn’t you say, under FDR?
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 09 :
It started during FDR’s administration, and we’ve been building. But my point is that we’re not taking the steps to fix it. We know what the problem is, but instead of fixing the problem, we just throw more money at the system, increasing the debt of the United States.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and that’s not just in the farming arena.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it’s not. It’s not just the agricultural system. It’s in airlines. It’s in a railroad. It’s in everything, and we cannot afford it anymore.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, we cannot afford it anymore. That is for sure. So next question, though, and I know that you are very frustrated with Trump, but the alternative would have been the continuation of the Biden-Harris administration. And so talk to me a little bit about what those administrations were doing for the farmers.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it was equally a disaster. We have not had foreign policy, probably dating back to Reagan, that was good, period. I mean, we just continue to increase the reliance upon payment. We’ve got to stop that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I agree. This just came in on the text line, Trent. It says, I see that the Trump administration… I think that’s valid. No, it’s not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Boy, you are adamant on that. I’m personally involved in this one, and I’ve got a personal angst on this situation, and it is the one that really turned the tide for me. It all started with the mod case in South Dakota, which you and I talked about. And there were 17 state representatives and senators who took that mod case under their own wings and said, we’re going to fix this. And then Brooke Rollins, USDA, held a press conference and claimed she did it. She fixed it. And in that press conference, she said, if you know of any government intrusion that’s comparable to what we’re dealing with here, we want to know about it and we’re going to come and fix it. I personally know three people who submitted that day what was happening to them, including Hank Vogler, who now has five government agencies since that day. Homeland Security sent him a letter that they’re now going to be auditing him. He’s got five different government agencies, including the Department of Labor, that’s threatening to take away his H-2A workers for three years. And they took away his land this summer. He has had government overreach for 30 years on his property. He has since submitted three times what has happened to him. He talked to his local U.S. House of Representatives. He spent an hour with his governor last week. And the USDA and the federal government continues to ignore what they say they’re doing. And the other two, they’ve also not paid attention whatsoever. In fact, the guy I talked to yesterday, after his representative… got a hold of the federal delegation and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. They started slapping Clint Thomas in Jordan, Montana, with 3,300 violations. They said what he did wrong, and a retaliation for him talking to his U.S. representative to try to get a fix to what they were doing, and they’re stealing his land. So that is something I’m very passionate about and have personal experience with, and that is a perfect example of the rhetoric in D.C. does not match what’s happening on the ground. If you can name me one person that has had any relief from federal overreach since Brooke Rawls made that statement, I want to talk to them because I can’t find them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, but I think, Trent, I think, didn’t you say the Maude case did come to a good resolution? So there’s an example right there.
SPEAKER 09 :
But Brooke Rollins didn’t do it. The state House and Senate, 17 state representatives and state senators made that happen. Not Brooke Rollins, not the governor of South Dakota, Larry Roden. There were three representatives, Dusty Johnson, the House representative from South Dakota, Mike Rounds. And John Thune were all standing there like they were part of it. I was on the inside of this mod situation. I know who was doing what. All three of those had privy to information. The only one that even listened was Senator Mike Rounds, but he didn’t do anything about it. And by the way, Kristi Noem was the governor of South Dakota when all this happened. She didn’t do anything about it. It took 17 state representatives and senators to make it happen. And the guy who did this to them, who committed this crime against his family, is still employed by the USDA. Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, well, we need to continue to shed light on this, but I think that there’s a lot of people that are embedded into these bureaucracies, and I think that it takes time. And starting with the message, I think, is important. And so I think this is an issue that we agree on what the outcome should be, I’m I like the rhetoric. I want Trump to step forward and certainly match up with what they are saying. So we’ve got more to talk about with with Trent Luce and a couple of things. Wanted to mention Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week, which begins next Monday. It’s a great week up in Grand Lake. The speakers are amazing. The main event is on the 20th. in the park. And Jonathan Turley will be the keynote speaker. What a great get. And there’s going to be a meet and greet that night. They’ve just gotten that organized. And so you can buy your tickets by going to GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com. That’s GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com. And for everything, if you’ve been injured, and we talked with him yesterday, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 18 :
It is a great day to be alive and want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And also tomorrow is 9-11 and the Center for American Values in Pueblo is going to have a great remembrance ceremony. You can get more information and the details by going to their website. That is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And then also the USMC Memorial Foundation is hosting a 5K run on Saturday the 20th. And there’s a lot going on on that day. And you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with Trent Luce, a sixth-generation farmer and rancher. And we’ve been talking about a large corn and soybean crop that the United States farmers are going to be producing this year, which is great. My dad, a farmer, said that he farmed for two reasons, to take care of his family and to feed the world. And… So Trent is, I would say, frustrated with the Trump administration. We’re going to talk with Ron. Ron is on the line. Ron, what is your question?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, just about his comment about China. If you in the land, I understand. And, you know, the government control of it. I understand. And I agree with him. As far as the China thing goes, if you put together the Panama Canal and what China has done to the Panama Canal and taken over it, basically, and how they had to do this, retake it and control it again, then you have to start to wonder why Trump would send a battle group with nuclear weapons to Venezuela, which is over in that area. Uh, if you eat with China and if you put it in, plus they have all the land that they’re buying up around naval bases. If you put one, two and three together, there’s issues. And for him to make that comment about worried about China, not worried about China. Um, I have, I have, uh,
SPEAKER 18 :
reservations uh anyway that was my okay thank you thank you ron uh so trent your comments on that outside the farming or the the crop consideration and the buying up of farmland and and actually i think ron has a very valid point china buying up land around our bases our air force bases and our different bases so what’s your thoughts on that trent
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, first of all, I’m proud that it was my team, not me personally, but my team at Beck News that broke that story about how China was buying this land near mostly Air Force bases. And I went to three of those to see for myself, including off at Air Force Base in Omaha. That’s a concern. And, Ron, I did not say that I’m not concerned about China. What I said was I’m more concerned about what the U.S. government is doing. But let’s just continue this China discussion. Why, if we have all of this concern about China, did Trump willingly say that we’re going to have 600,000 Chinese students come into our universities? And that caused me to do a little digging. And then I found out that we have $57 million from China going into our universities. In fact, since 2020, the amount of money that’s going into universities and the United States educating our kids from China Is more than it was for the previous 40 years. So there’s much more to this story than just nitpicking one thing saying that China and I’m the guy that people, my friends in Oklahoma called me 12 years ago and said, we’ve got an Oklahoma law in the books that says China, Chinese nationals cannot buy land in Oklahoma. And my neighbor just sold his property to some Chinese individuals. So it’s been happening for quite some time. And Oklahoma tried to find a way to put a stop to that loophole that they had unintentionally created. But in Oklahoma, what is happening with the federal government and the state government consuming land is a bigger challenge right now than what China ever committed. So if I’m going to rank them, I’m more worried about the U.S. government, state and federal, than I am about the Chinese government as it involves buying land or controlling land.
SPEAKER 18 :
So that is so interesting. Are you familiar? And I agree with you. First of all, I don’t think that the government was supposed to own all of this land. And we had a conversation with Mike Rolick and… Adrian Waller, about there was a land swap between the state of Colorado and Jefferson County. And in the land swap, now on the land that’s called the Glow Park property development, it was supposed to be some other buildings that were accompanied NREL in the National Renewable energy lab and now the what’s being proposed in fast-tracked is that there would be an eight-story housing facility on that property which would really change the fabric of the neighborhood but the bottom line is is that the the state owns that land and it’s like question mark there and then the new bronco stadium was announced yesterday. And they said that it’s going to be privately financed by the investor group that owns the Broncos, headed by somebody from the Walton family. But that’s on state-owned land. Where did the state get the money to buy this land? Well, they took it from us. So your point regarding being concerned about government owning the land or taking control of the land is very valid, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 09 :
And there’s one other component which is massive because government, federal and state, currently owns one in three acres in the United States. But that does not speak to the land that is controlled by the federal government, either through a CRP payment or being enrolled in some program. And, Kim, the longest discussion you and I have had on this program is the easements that are signed for transmission lines, pipelines. You name it. Wind and solar. Look at what we started by talking about what’s going on in Cheyenne with wind and solar. Every time there’s an easement that is signed, most of those easements that I personally read are for perpetuity. They’re forever. Somebody controls your property forever. And it point blank says line item listed on there. We reserve the right to sell this easement to whoever we want. Literally. The holder of that easement, the wind developer in this case, can sell that land or sell that easement, which controls the land, to the U.S. government or the Chinese government. In fact, the CO2 pipeline debacle that started with Summit Carbon Solutions, one of the original investors is SK Engineering, which is South Korean engineering company. They’ve already been fined two times by the Department of Defense for committing false fraudulent claims for $80 million, and they own part of the easement that is going in if you sign an easement with the CO2 pipeline. The control of the land and ownership of the land is the number one issue right now, and it’s more driven by federal government issues and state government than it is foreign government. But these easements equally contribute to the problem.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, Trent Luce, important discussions. And we should probably have another discussion coming up soon about all this open lands as well and the taxes that we’re paying for government to buy land to, I think, ultimately, then they’ll lock it up and we won’t get to it. And I know that sounds somewhat like a tin hat, but we’re seeing that happen.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no, that’s exactly what’s happened with my scenario that I talked about, Clint Thomas, yesterday. It’s U.S. crime… U.S. Army Corps of Engineers takes the land back and then they do not let the public have access to it. We’ve seen this with Bureau of Land Management land in Alaska. People go to Alaska to hunt. And there was I think it was two million acres that they said off limits, no more hunting.
SPEAKER 18 :
OK, we’re going to continue the discussion. We’re out of time. Trent Luce, it’s always a spirited conversation. Thank you. Have a great week. We’ll talk next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
You do the same. Thank you, Kim.
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