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And so stay tuned. You can see the film by going to aclimatconversation.com. That’s aclimatconversation.com. And you can watch it for free there. Today is Constitution Day, and Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week is in full force. Great speakers began on Monday, kicked it off with Professor Rob Nielsen. Getting up to the main event on Saturday, which will be great. I just looked. It’s going to be a beautiful day. However, it looks like it might be cloudy. So let’s pray for sunshine, because if it’s cloudy, we won’t get the flyover. They’re so beautiful. be the parade and the event in the park and the fireworks and all that. But let’s pray for sunshine because I would love to have that fly over as well. But you can get all of the details by going to GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com. That’s GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com and see all the remaining speakers and just what a great, they’re working so hard. It’s all volunteers up there. So check that out. The word of the day is prodigious, and it’s spelled P-R-O-D-I-G-I-O-U-S, and it could be extraordinary in size, amount, or extent, arousing admiration or amazement. It could be abnormal or monstrous or ominous. But I would say that the founders were so prodigious in creating this U.S. Constitution that This was a radical document because it was the first time in history that there was a document that said we the people would govern ourselves. And we need to reclaim our Constitution. We are way out of whack with all of the overreach at the local, county, state, and federal level. I think Donald Trump is trying to do what he can to get this ship turned around. We have our responsibility to do that in our communities, in our conversations with our family, our friends and our colleagues. And tragically, it was one week ago today that Charlie Kirk was assassinated in Utah. and it is amazing though the growth it looks like of turning point usa and people wanting to have a conversation and that is what we do on the show is we want to have a conversation about these important issues and we look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it’s not compassionate, and it’s not altruistic to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, their childhoods, or their lives via force. And force could be a weapon, but it could be policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, played out by the World Economic Forum and their agenda and the globalist elites. And you can see it at the United Nations, but also at this Colorado State Legislature with this Colorado governor. But you also see it at the county and the local level as well. And it could be land use codes, just a whole variety of things. And so I’ve got some good news to share with you on a variety of fronts here. But on the show, we focus on the issues. And we’ll mention the people pushing the issues, but we really work to stay out of the personalities, the eighth-grade girl fighting. We want to stay focused on the issues. So this is a quote. James Madison is known as the father of our Constitution. And he was, let’s see, he was our fourth president, right? And he said this. He said it will be… of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read or so incoherent that they cannot be understood and we see that even on the local level i remember when i was on city council we would have memorandums of agreement that would be pages and pages long as we get into this election cycle Proposition LL and Proposition MM, I think it was MM that was referred to the ballot by the state legislature, which is basically a graduated or progressive income tax. which that is Marxist in its basis because it treats people differently. It puts people in different groups. And of course, this old soak the rich kind of thing is a narrative out there that is it’s based in communism. And it puts people in groups and tries to pick groups against each other. And then it also will treat them differently. So if you’ve worked hard, maybe you’re working 60, 70 hours a week because you’re trying to create a business and the business has finally gotten successful. Why should someone that’s not working at all or working very minimally and be paying a lower percentage in income tax than you are. And then what happens is people make different decisions when they go to the ballot box. That’s why the founders were so brilliant in realizing that we all need to be treated the same impartially. The other thing is, though, is when I talk about PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, interested parties, big business, big government has figured out that they can use each other to soak the regular everyday guy and also then put in place advantageous policies so that the big business can make it more difficult for their competitors. And so that is why we need to reclaim this vision of the Constitution. The great work that they’re doing at U.S. Constitution Week up in Grand Lake is amazing. So let’s see. The next thing. Oh, I just will. We’ll talk about a little bit more about this. And Greg Abbott said 100 plus Texas teachers are going to lose their certification in the Kirk aftermath. And I would highly recommend that you get to Grand Lake for the main event on Tuesday. Saturday because Jonathan Turley, professor at Georgetown University, will be talking about freedom of speech in the age of rage. And so the government should not be able to throw you in jail for what you say. And you should have total freedom of speech. But there will be consequences. And if you are celebrating the assassination of someone because they were exercising their freedom of speech, then you need to be responsible for your words. And that may mean that you may lose your job. And so we’ll continue, though. I’m posing this question for many of our guests because I’m trying to get my brain around this whole freedom of speech, because freedom of speech is so important in a free society. But as Yvonne had texted me inciting violence We should not have freedom of speech to incite violence. And so many of these teachers who are teaching our children, so many parents have said, how on earth can my child have gotten indoctrinated? Well, this is how. We’re seeing this. The veil’s coming off on this. So this is a super interesting, dangerous time in our country. Wanted to share, though, two things, and we’ll talk with Wendy. She’s going to join us with Trent Luce in our number two, Wendy Volk in Cheyenne. But the county commissioners in Laramie County, which is the Cheyenne area, voted yesterday 3-1 to not support the permit, to deny the permit for this 56,000-acre industrial wind project, which is huge. Last night I was in Cherry Creek, where Cherry Creek North, that community has come together, and there was a working study session Last night, well over 200 people, maybe 250 people were there. And they basically made their voices heard that they did not want to be part of this GID or this GID, this General Improvement District. I guess it would be GID. And the consultant said, okay, Cherry Creek North, you’re not going to be in the GID. The basically said the case is closed. That we’ll see. That’s super interesting. So that was a success. And then up in northwest Wyoming, there is a group that’s trying to get a little charter school going. And they received approval for their next step. So citizens stepping up, just like we’ll talk with Mike Rolick here in the next segment, and researching things, understanding the issues, and then being able to calmly, although I would say it wasn’t totally calm at the Cherry Creek North meeting. People were adamant to say, no, we do not want this. 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Good morning, Kim. How’s it going? Good morning.
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Well, it is good to have you, and all is going well. First of all, just reiterate how important this forum is for the Arvades City Council on the 29th of September.
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Well, I would say it’s pretty important. It’s easy to forget that the city elections are on the off year. And I also believe the school board elections are this year as well. So while the big elections might have happened last year and in 2020, you know, we have these off year elections and even the off season ones. such as the other metro districts, such as fire protection districts that happened in May of this year. We can think of them as small elections, but, you know, there are a lot of state laws that end up being, you know, implemented by local governments. And that’s a big thing. And also some of our local governments, like Nevada, are joining in that lawsuit against things like HB 1313 and making sure the People vote on city council who will try to protect citizens, I think, is an important thing.
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And people are waking up when we see what’s happening in some of these other jurisdictions where there’s actually avowed Democrat socialists, which what that means is that they want government to control our lives instead of us controlling our lives. So we’ve got a lot to talk about. We maybe have mentioned this on the show, but have not really delved into it. And you’ve been watching this Bat Lab up at CSU. And COVID seems to be a little bit in our rearview mirror. But we need to remember all that was going on. So why are you concerned about this Bat Lab? And tell us, our listeners, what’s going on exactly?
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Well… In 2017, there was a cooperative agreement between CSU Fort Collins, NIH, NIAID, and then DARPA and some other groups to start looking into putting together a worldwide bat coalition, and they came up with the Bat One Health Research Network, the OHRN. Started thinking about ideas of how to do bat research in the United States. And in 2018, there was a field trip over to Thailand where they started looking at Indian flying fox bats. In case, and so this was a, the U.S. Right to Know, sorry, did a great FOIA request on this. It’s a great organization. There’s a lot of scientific and medical investigative journalism. So I found, you know, that article talking about how the DOD had put together a trip for scientists to go over to Bangladesh, to Thailand, near Bangladesh, sorry, up near the border to look at Indian flying fox bats in a specific cave. And then since then, they’ve been working on developing a bat vivarium research center on CSU Port Collins campus. In December of 2022, so two years after COVID really was going, two and a half almost, there was a location and extent event vote at Larimer County level to talk about this new bat vivarium or, um, research center. And I find it interesting because you remember the layers of governance, pretty complex. You talk about local elections, the CSU board of governors is, is basically in charge of what’s going on at Colorado state universities, right? And the board of governors there could be the ultimate arbiter on whether this research facility goes in or not. So Larimer County was given a location and extent process. We talked about location extents for the Glow Park situation. I’ve seen other location extent processes basically where the state co-owns the land or owns the land, right, and they co-own that land use decision. So there’s no rezoning for this. And it was just a planning commission meeting. And it got voted through, one abstained from the vote, and then it started getting built. That’s about the time I started figuring out, you know, what was going on, started working with some local folks in the area to see what was going on. In the county documents, they’re talking about studying a virus called Nipah virus. I don’t know if you’ve heard of Nipah virus. Sometimes it’s in the news. It kind of touched the news last year. But Nipah virus and Hendra virus are a connection, a family of paramyxovirus, which is respiratory as well, but does not spread as easily as coronavirus from what I’ve been able to read. What’s interesting here is a connection with the EcoHealth Alliance and how they’ve been looking at the Nipah virus for a long time as well. So that’s kind of the basics there. What they would do is raise bats… at CSU and then study the Nipah virus more directly up at Rocky Mountain Labs, which is a NIAID run lab, which is National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases. That kind of was a little famous for the past few years. And that’s up in Hamilton, Montana. So shipments of, from what I could tell, immortalized cell lines and tissue from these bats that go up to Montana, not sure by road, not sure by air. And then they would be studying that to BSL level four.
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So, Mike Rollick, this is great research. In the weeds, what’s the bottom line that you’re concerned about here?
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In the weeds, you’ve got a situation where you’ve got a disease that has a 30% to 70% mortality rate. That’s one to two out of every three people that contract this disease. being studied here, uh, being studied, you know, between somewhere between here and Rocky mountain labs, you’ve got these bats being brought in from Bangladesh through Denver international airport. Um, potentially if everything goes through, um, you’ve got the connection with eco health Alliance and you’ve gotten, you know, the mistakes that happen to move on. So unlike a Corona virus, which, You know, was fatal to some people, obviously, a disaster of a situation. You’re talking about importing bats and importing a virus into this country that has a potential to kill one to two of every three people that contracted. I think that’s a very, very deadly move, frankly.
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It sounds like it. So what what can we do?
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Well, this is an interesting situation. We’ve met with some state reps, and they say, well, because the NIH would be giving out grant money, go look to the feds. We’ve met with Boebert’s staff one time, trying to get a second meeting, and their estimation was try to get more of a groundswell of support first for this situation so they could take a look more into it. Also, Boebert’s staff was interested in U.S. Fish and Wildlife portion because you’ve got to import these animals from Bangladesh through some airport. We have some emails talking about Denver Airport through some core requests that we’ve done. And on the state level, I’m hoping that there can be some oversight for the Board of Governors and there can be some oversight for the – the lab safety portion of this whole thing. You know, the biosafety officer reports from CSU, maybe they can be overlooked. And just in general, what each piece of this can be, also from the Fed side, is taking a look at these grants a little more carefully. We did meet with Senator Bennett’s office as well, and we’re trying to get some further action there. Also, to say, hey, can we look at these grants? You’ve got several million dollars going into this kind of research, Ed, Can there be some oversight here?
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Is the Bat Lab, is it completed in its construction?
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Don’t quite know, but from what I’m hearing, it sounds about so. We do have some friends that are pretty close. Remember, this Bat Lab is less than half a mile, I believe, from Holmes. I mean, it’s relatively close. From what I can see from the Google Maps, it looks like stuff is getting built pretty close, a few hundred feet maybe.
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Okay.
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So you’ve got homes right close to this.
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Okay. We need to… And somebody had reached out to me, I think a couple of years ago, and I looked at it, and a lot comes at me, and I just hadn’t done additional work on this. So we’re going to have to continue on this. I so appreciate the great work that you’re doing. We have a whole other subject that we will address next week regarding our Second Amendment issue. But Mike Rolick, thank you. What’s your final thought you’d like to leave with our listeners?
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Once again, you know, get involved in the local elections. They really do matter. Zoning does matter. Zoning can be a tool for protection of freedoms or it could be a tool for a bludgeon, you know, against our freedoms. And in the situation with the bat lab, remember, all that stood in the way was a. flimsy process called a location and extent process. And even if the Larimer County Planning Commission voted against it, it could have been overruled by the state. So all these different levels of government that have their different elections, like the Board of Governors even, all these matter a lot.
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And that’s why the great work that you’re doing on this is really terrific, Mike Rolick. So have a great day, and we will talk with you next week. And, again, that’s Mike Rolick. And one other, just to reiterate, the forum for the Arvada City Council.
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Oh, I’m sorry.
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Yeah, just go ahead and tell us, again, the forum for the Arvada City Council.
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Oh, sorry, the forum. We’re going to be both online on YouTube, on our RBC YouTube channel, and also at the depot at the Village of Five Parks. And we’ll be focusing on land use-related questions. And at this point, you know, we understand that there’s a fair bit going on between our group and meeting with other different groups out there. Everyone’s welcome. It’s land use. It’s a very civil forum. It’s not a debate. So everyone has long form question and answer time. And it’s only one person at a time. So it’s a really, really nice and comprehensive way to to to run a forum like this that we’ve come across.
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OK, Mike Rollick, thank you so much.
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Thank you. Have a great day.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And there’s a lot happening out there in our world. And who can you trust to get information? And I would highly recommend that you check out Drew Dix’s podcast at the American Value Center dot org. That’s with through the center podcast. for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. And Drew has such a myriad of experiences between his military career and the service in the government as well. And so be sure and check that out. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And so pleased to have on the line with me Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. You know him. He is a scientist. He is the founder of IPAC-EDU, which is an amazing educational forum for people that are intellectually curious. And so pleased to have him on the line. Dr. Jack, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. How are you?
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Well, I am well and so excited to have you on the line, Dr. Jack, because so much has happened in our world since the last time that we talked. And you’re a colleague of RFK Jr. So much has happened. And Charlie Kirk, I was reading something that Charlie Kirk was very involved in RFK Jr. and Trump coming together in this last election. So what’s your thoughts about the assassination of Charlie Kirk?
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Well, I’m sure, you know, shocked like everyone, the horror, his children, his wife. Very, very, very difficult couple of days. And we see in Charlie’s life how dedicated he truly was to helping the next generation understand their deficit and try to overcome their deficit and being able to have a reasonable conversations, rational discourse. You know, what I loved about Charlie’s work when he’d go to these campuses is he would hear people out and then he would ask them to clarify so that he could understand it in basic and simple terms. And they would learn, for instance, that the woke idealism that they lean on so heavily is a house of cards and You know, in doing this for someone at that young age, you’re really saving them from building a life that’s based on, you know, compensating justifications and projections and formations, psychological formations that do not stand the test of reality. So he was acting in a loving way in doing this. And sometimes we have to be The firm, when someone is not able to hear you or not able to even hear themselves, if I showed up for a conversation to debate, you know, a topic A and then someone comes in and tries to make it an attack on certain people and that kind of thing, you know, hundreds of times, I’m sure he had to redirect back to the thousands perhaps, back to the original topic and not have it hijacked into some, you know, some conversation that was not his intent. And so he died doing what he loved doing. He died what he thought was his mission and his calling. And it was. And he, you know, has set forth with his passing, you know, a renewed… vigor, energy, dedication, appreciation for the fact that we can have differences of opinion, but if there are people that say that we cannot have those conversations, if there are agencies or entities that try to convince us that we cannot have those conversations because we are so disalike, that we’re going to not be able to survive as a country, as a nation, as a culture because the divides are too great. And most anyone with a megaphone or a microphone can make a statement. But when I learned that Charlie Kirk already had 3,500 organizations in high schools across the country, that gave me a great deal of hope that perhaps we might be able to catalyze a political movement to make sure that civics is taught in the United States of America in school, that the art of dialectic that is rational discourse that’s done in a reasonable manner so that people can work out their differences, work out understanding first. And then if you work out understanding first, many times the differences disappear. But, you know, I’ve heard… I was on X Spaces, a 26,000-person X Space, the day of his assassination and another one the day after. And I’ve heard so many people first say, this is going to put a chilling effect on people’s willingness to show up and speak in public. And I can understand people might be afraid, but I believe it’s going to have a boomerang effect that will have the opposite effect. And then… And that’s not hopeful thinking. I’m already seeing signs of that. And then we have an opportunity here to teach our youth debate and… People were saying on these spaces, person after person, it’s time to tone down the rhetoric. We all heard it. On both sides, it’s time to tone down the rhetoric. And I appreciate what people were saying, but they don’t understand what they were saying because nobody taught us what rhetoric is. We were never taught the difference between rhetoric and polemic. P-O-L-E-M-I-C. And one thing that Colorado could do and really take the lead on this for the nation is to teach… people, kids in 8th and 9th and 10th grade, how to pick up a topic and have rational discourse on it. Not everything’s a debate. The debate is a particular style of communication, is a particular forum. Sometimes it’s just a discussion. How do you carry on a discussion where two sides oppose? You know, you can pick up any issue and you can do it in a debate forum, but if I perform a good argument and it’s reasonable and it’s laid out, look it up in Merriam-Webster, it actually, that’s rhetoric. Rhetoric is an argument that is well-formed and laid out in a plain and simple way. Now, we also have it in our language as another use when somebody asks, say, for instance, a rhetorical question where the content of the question is not based in reality. It’s stated to make a point, but we have forgotten the other definition of rhetoric. And so when people say we need to tone down the rhetoric as a result of Charlie’s assassination, we’re actually saying we need to censor ourselves and stop making reasonable, well-laid-out, plain English language arguments. And a polemic is an argument that’s meant to shut the other side down. It’s done with such force. You need to shut up. You can’t say that in public because you’re going to hurt people. You’re going to inspire people to hurt other people when you say that. That’s a polemic. It’s not well thought out. It’s based on emotion. It’s not even based on reality. It’s based on the slippery slope logical fallacy. So I hope that there’s an actual turning point, an inflection point in the United States or just in a few key states where a curriculum can be developed and You know, National Science Foundation should be all over this to develop a curriculum so that people walk out of high school with a diploma in their hand, whether they go to college or not. And they realize that when someone’s making a point to them, they will be able to recognize the tools of. discourse and they’ll be able to appreciate that this person’s putting their time into laying things out for them so that they can hear it and understand it rather than try to just find the slightest little evidence of a crack in an argument or rather than try to find an inconsistency or just seeking that one confirming piece that proves your point. This is very important that you know Kim We want to say you should respect your elders. Understand, of course. We want to say you should respect your teachers. You want to respect authority, you know, if it’s decent and good authority not being abused. There’s no lesson where we teach them how to respect each other. Teamwork, fine, but there’s no lesson where mutual respect, and that’s different than admiration. There’s a difference. So we could… you know, raise the bar on how we educate our children. And I hope someone in the, within the zone of my voice picks this up. I know tons of people have heard me talk about how we should create the Kirk society, um, that, uh, focuses exclusively on bringing rational discourse to college campuses, and they have to get there first to get into public education. And I know people don’t like to build structure in government, but that’s where it is. We can’t allow yet another cohort of students to come through public education thinking that just because they believe something very, very, very hard, that makes it true.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are raising money to take care of the memorial as well as for the remodel. And it is so important to remember those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And we have a responsibility because of that to support the USMC Memorial Foundation and also to engage in these conversations. So Dr. Jack, I want to change gears in just a minute. This came in from Susan Kochevar. She’s the owner of 88 Drive-In Theater and a great sponsor of the show. She said, fantastic point. Dr. Jack is saying something that needs to be explained. She says, but no more government. She said, people need to learn to separate their emotions and thinking. They think that the emotions are thinking, and does that make sense? They can’t discern that their argument is emotional rather than reason. And I know that Susan has taken a number of your courses at IPAC-EDU as well, but I just wanted to get that out there that she’s reiterating what an important point you’re making.
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What she’s talking about is exactly right. Part of being able to engage in earnest discourse is not only to be able to evaluate, critique, and study, evaluate, and critique other people’s positions, but to do that on your own. There’s an aspect of human cognition that I call metacognition, where you’re thinking about what you’re thinking. You’re thinking about how you’re thinking. And it takes a certain degree of effort to do that, but it’s like a muscle. You can practice it. You can develop it and you can become very good at it.
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Okay, so a great conversation on that, but I want to change gears. People can find the things that you write at popularrationalism at substack.com. And you just published something, and I’ve seen a headline on this as well, that 14-year fugitive from Justice Paul Thorson was arrested in Germany for defrauding the U.S. What this means for the vaccine autism question. This is big, isn’t it?
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Yeah, this person was on the Office of the Inspector General website as America’s Most Wanted. He was among the, if not the most, most wanted. 2014 years ago, there was a cohort of people working on the autism vaccine question, and some of it got contracted, some of it was contracted out to… Danish researchers. They study their Danish health registry. And there is a book on this published by Skyhorse. The author’s name is James Grunvig.
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Whoops, I think that we lost him.
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The title is Master… There’s an echo. The title is Master Manipulator. And this man… was among the people who were doing research at the behest of the U.S., ultimately U.S. taxpayer to ask the question, are vaccines associated with autism? He had received one point one or two or three or something million dollars. And in what he allegedly did was abscond with the money and not do the research. However, there were other studies that came out at the time, um, that were, uh, let’s say, um, clearly manipulated to make the association go away. Um, this, I’ve said this before in public, I’m not breaking any news here. Uh, if you’re not familiar with it, you can look into it. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is aware of this. He’s written on it as well and talked about it. And, um, So here’s this fugitive for 14 years. You have to ask yourself, why was Paul Thorson living in the open in Denmark, making a living, working as a gynecologist, seeing patients, when he committed a federal crime against the United States of America government? He was on the OIG website. It doesn’t match up. Why was he never indicted? I mean, so why was he never extradited? So the federal grand jury actually indicted him in 2011. 22 counts of wire fraud, money laundering, and, you know, my speculation, other people’s speculation, is that he realized that he could because they dare not go after him for it and actually render him because he had the receipts. He probably had communications from CDC. If they were, CDC was involved in… defrauding the government sorry defrauding the public on the vaccine autism connection that he simply said thanks for the money now i’m going to use it however i see fit and there’s nothing you can do about it because i will let them all know about you know your communications to me where i i’m supposed to you know manipulate the data even further So this is going to be very interesting. There’ll be some time where in, you know, the extradition international extradition takes some doing, takes some time. Um, if he has, um, the receipts and the evidence, then, um, yeah, hopefully he’s, he’s got them in a, in a place where online he will be able to provide them, um, to the attorney general’s office here in the United States of America, uh, And his arrest, testimony, subpoena, whatever they managed to get out of him through that, he would probably want to enter a plea bargain situation to see if he could make his case as painless as possible to himself and bring forward charges. Or maybe he’s a great guy and he just refused to do it. He couldn’t do it anymore. Walked away from it and said, you know, no, I’m not returning the money either. I will out you. But that doesn’t make him a great guy. If he knew if he knew if he had the receipts all this time, he should have come forward. Fourteen years of vaccines going into children, altering neural development is something that, you know. he is party to by not coming forward. So, I mean, I don’t want to rush to judgment. Maybe they had things on him too. And that’s kind of how these, these power positions go where the, maybe they had some things on him too, and he didn’t want to destroy his career. Well, that doesn’t make him a great guy. So, you know, I’m left speculating. I have as much knowledge as anybody I think about this. James Grunvig has done the deep dive. But, yeah, this was actually brought about by Breitbart News. So you can read the original report of it. And other people are writing reports on it, like Children’s Health Defense. It’s a good development. It’s long overdue. And I think… This particular government, the Trump administration, should look into why he was never extradited.
SPEAKER 15 :
That makes a lot of sense. And I did see a headline as I’m looking at headlines preparing for the show. I saw something like that, and then I was going through emails, and you had published this at Popular Rationalism. We have one minute left. Your final thought, you’d like to leave with our listeners, Dr. Jack.
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It is so important that you show warmth and love to your children. No one can deny that. But it is equally important that through your behavior, you show them that you can carry rational discussions with people with who you disagree. Children learn not by what you tell them, but they learn by what you show them. Your behavior matters more than your words. Kim, I’ll let you close out.
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okay thank you and that’s dr james linesweiler and be sure and check out ipac-edu and the amazing courses that is offered there because learning about these things knowledge being intellectually curious is so important our quote for the end of the show because today is constitution day i went to the father of the constitution which is james madison and he said this he said where an excess of power prevails property of no sort is duly respected No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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To the mountains climbing, twisting, turning further from my home. Young like a new moon rising fierce. To the rain enlightening, pouring out into this great unknown. And I don’t want no one to cry. But tell them if I don’t survive.
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Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured. You’re valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I work with. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Constitution Day to you, Producer Joe.
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Happy Constitution Day to you as well, Kim.
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1787, on this day in 1787. And check out Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week. It is up and running, a great event. Today they will be having their, there’s going to be a movie at the community house in Town Park. And it is the American Constitution. Three o’clock, there will be their trivia contest. This evening at five, Dr. William Morrissey, professor emeritus of politics at Hillsdale College, will be presenting on separation of powers. And you can get all of the information about the balance of the week. Saturday is going to be super amazing. And they’re late breaking. There is a meet and greet. I would recommend that you get your tickets purchased to meet and greet Professor Jonathan Turley. He is the keynote speaker. But that evening at 6 p.m., tickets are $45 for the meet and greet or $60 if you want to buy his book. And the last time I was in an event where he had his books, he ran out. And so I’d suggest that you go ahead and get your tickets purchased. And he will. This is so timely. The subject is. Free Speech in an Age of Rage, and it’s based on his book, The Indispensable Right. And so check all of that out at Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week. You can purchase your tickets there. And it’s amazing. It’s all volunteers and these sponsors. We wanted to say thank you to the Gateway Inn, Sun Outdoors, Rick and Cindy Johnson, Hydrotech Plumbing, Mike and Jackie Tompkins. It is amazing in this little community the way these people are stepping up. And so check all that out at GrandLakeUSConstitutionWeek.com. Also, our board meeting was on Monday night, and that is with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. This is another all-volunteer group. that is watching the legislation that is proposed down at the State House and taking positions on that. Also, we will be taking positions on some of the different issues that will be on a variety of the ballots that will be in our November election. but this is unconscionable there were 768 bills or resolutions that were proposed at this colorado state legislature but this is also amazing the group took positions on 273 of these bills and what we look at is how does this bill affect the taxpayer or TABOR, which is Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights, property rights, or parental choice. And you can get a lot of great information by going to the website. That’s coloradotaxpayer.org. We’d really love to have you join us. We’re going to be publishing this ratings report here probably within the next week. But when you see these folks out and about, say thank you to them for their great work. And that’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas. Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And again, they volunteer their time. There are so many people stepping forward and volunteering their time. which is amazing, but these PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties, they have big bucks over here to be pushing their ideologies and their agendas. But my gosh, we’re seeing everyday citizens step forward and we are reclaiming our communities and this is so exciting. And it all begins with a conversation. And that’s what we specialize here. And I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it’s reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant power. from naturally occurring hydrocarbons such as oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. There is this war on hydrocarbons. And we need to make sure that our power sources compete in the free market, not with tax subsidies, not with preferential treatment, but to compete there to provide a product that is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant. And when there is a war on that particular power source, what that actually is a war on is everyday people thriving and flourishing. But everyday people are stepping forward and paying attention. And so that is very exciting. Our word of the day is prodigious. And it is spelled P-R-O-D-I-G-I-O-U-S. It could be extraordinary in size, amount, or extent. Number two, arousing admiration or amazement. Number three, it could be abnormal or monstrous. Or number four, it could be ominous. But the founding fathers were so prodigious in their vision for this country. They didn’t know what would happen if everyday people could govern themselves. And what happened was America happened, this big, broad middle class where everyday people could thrive and flourish and create wealth for themselves and their families. That has really been under attack, for sure, beginning with the Woodrow Wilson administration over 100 years ago, or about 100 years ago. And in some ways, I feel that this prosperity that we have, we are on the fumes of freedom, something that was put in place so many years ago in 1787. Of course, the vision of the Declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. We are now at our third founding of our country to see if we are going to reclaim human liberty. And that is why these discussions are so, so important. And so this is a good time to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. I’d recommend that you go down and see, you’ll be inspired by their portraits of valor of many of our Medal of Honor recipients and their quotes. And you can get all the information about all the great things that they’re doing. They’re nonpolitical. They’re nonpartisan. They’re just focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So be sure and check that out. And their website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. Our quote of the day is from James Madison. He’s known as the father of the Constitution. And he said this, it will be of little avail to the people that that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read or so incoherent that they cannot be understood. And case in point is supposedly we are electing our Colorado legislators, although many of them have been appointed instead of voted on. And I think we do need to change that. And also the great work that we’re doing regarding our elections, with all of you helping to raise the money for these lawsuits. We need to make sure that our elections are free, fair, transparent, and honest. And so that’s another thing that we’re working on. You need to make sure that that’s the case. And then we need to remind these people they are not elected officials. They are elected representatives, and they are to represent we, the people. And we need to, and I’m hearing many more stories. We talked with Mike Rolick in hour number one. What he is doing from a citizen watchdog standpoint is amazing. And just so many people that are stepping forward. There were some big successes yesterday. A little charter school up in Northwest Wyoming received the next approval they needed to move forward with this charter school based on classical education. and this is awesome. Last night, I was in North Cherry Creek, where the residents and citizens of North Cherry Creek made their voices heard that they do not want a JID, a General Improvement District. They do not want new taxes that would be, and the power would be put with an unelected board. Just think about that. They could levy taxes that you have to pay, incur debt that you have to pay, have the power of eminent domain. And they made their voices heard and very loud. And the consultant said, okay, no, you will not be part of the JID. Now, it’s going to be interesting to see next steps because what I’ve seen with PBIs is they retreat, may rebrand, do something different. So certainly have to be vigilant on that. But that was a great success. And then we will talk with Wendy Volk with Trent Luce here in just a moment about the 56,000 acre industrial wind project that the permit was denied yesterday up in Laramie County, Wyoming. And so take heart, my friends, take heart as we are shedding light on these issues. People are stepping forward. It is extremely exciting. And these discussions happen because of all the support that you give to us. I’m an independent voice on an independent station. And what that means is that I buy my airtime, so there’s no corporate person telling me what guests I have to have, what we’re going to talk about. We’re inspired by the good Lord with these subjects. And make sure you’re signed up for our weekly email newsletter as well, so that way you’ll see all of the guests. Sometimes we have some late-breaking guests that are added in, but that way you’ll know what is going on. And also we do a voter’s guide to help you get your brain around those issues as well. But it’s because of all of you and our sponsors and a great sponsor is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. Give them a call. 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Thanks, Kim. When did the word vibe become part of our normal vocabulary?
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Just recently. And there are those that have said that Denver has lost the Denver vibe because it’s policies. But yeah, I hadn’t thought about that. And of course, my friend Lauren, who writes the copy for that, she’s younger than I am. So of course, vibe would be a word in her vocabulary. So Trent Luce… Today is a very special day. Do you know what today is?
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It is two days before George Washington gave his farewell address in 1796 on September 19th.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s probably correct, but it’s also Constitution Day.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah, that too.
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1781.
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Well, 1787 is Constitution Day. Oh, there you go. Okay. I had my one and seven messed up.
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Oh, I hate that when that happens. So Trent Luce, we have on the line with us somebody we are just so excited to have, and that’s Wendy Volk. I know that you have interviewed her. We had her on yesterday, and she’s been shedding light on a 56,000-acre industrial wind project in Cheyenne. Trent, do you want to say anything before we bring…
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Just a true champion and understanding what the Constitution is all about, making sure that we empower the people, the prototype, Wendy Volk.
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And Wendy Volk, welcome. Yesterday was the meeting with the county commissioners. Welcome. It’s great to have you. So tell us what happened.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good morning. Yesterday at 3.30, we had just a phenomenal turnout of people come to hear how the county commissioners and the planning department were approaching a 56,000 acre wind farm or wind project that would be converting prime agriculture land here that’s owned by two private landowners and 6,100 of that 56,000 acres is owned by the state of Wyoming. And the turnout was tremendous. People wanted to comment. They wanted to express concerns. They wanted to first hear from the company. And it was probably the most information the company has given us since we all learned about this project at the beginning. And I say we all learned about it. The small group of people that was in one mile of the project received a registered letter in June. And then… We kept asking for more information, more information. Last week, our planning commission voted to say there were more questions than answers, and they voted to postpone making a decision. And that was their recommendation until after an industrial permit process was completed by the company. um so more information could be gathered we could have more questions answered so our county commissioners um it’s normally five people one person was absent was out of town so the other four listened and it started at 3 30 and we i got home at 8 30 last night it was it was unbelievable they had a full agenda of business to also conduct and so this was the last item and I really I’m proud of our county commissioners. They are very good at listening. They are very good at also knowing what our land use regulations are. And so we wanted to make sure we did things and conducted it just like we did last week at the meeting, which was to stand up and professionally express opinions. No personal attacking was done. No mudslinging was done. And I wanted that to be the gold standard for yesterday’s meeting. And I think people just followed one another’s leads is people could talk about their concerns about road safety. People talked about wildlife and the impact to wildlife, the impact to the landscape, the impact to the way of life in a Western way of life that we cherish here in Wyoming. And I know you do in Colorado and Nebraska. They’re just not making this kind of land. Once you change it and change that use, it’s gone forever. So it was a pretty big discussion. And the company had added more details than they ever have in their PowerPoint presentation. And then when it came to a vote, three out of the four commissioners denied the permit. They didn’t want to approve the permit as was recommended by the chairman and also recommended by the planning staff report that was presented. There were too many unanswered questions. And I know that the families put a lot of time and energy into it, and I appreciate that. I know our planning department put a whole lot of time and energy into this. I know the company put a whole lot of time and energy into it. But for me as a licensed real estate agent to have multiple times read through an almost 500-page document and put sticky note after sticky note after sticky note saying, but there isn’t anything proving this. Every statement they would make, That was, you know, whether it was on the investment, what was the return on investment on this project? No details provided. There was no information showing what the impact to wildlife is. They provided the letter from our Wyoming Game and Fish to say they had concerns about it. So everything was referenced, but nothing was provided in terms of the big questions, the wildlife, the return on investment, what would be the route, ideal route for transporting 300 construction workers and 285 semi-trucks a day during this project. There’s just too many unanswered questions, and I don’t think that’s fair to have done to our community if they would have passed that at this stage.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and Trent, our quote of the day, James Madison, father of the Constitution, said it will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read or so incoherent that they cannot be understood. And when I was on city council 2012 to 2016, I started to see exactly what Wendy was going through, a 500-page document saying, that she took an enormous amount of time to go through and put sticky notes on it, to ask questions, to ask for more information. And again, you and I both hats off to her for doing that. And people need to take inspiration for what she has done regarding this. But the idea that this thing is 500 pages, I think is unconscionable, Trent.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. But the overarching message here is that one person makes a difference. And I know for a fact that Wendy’s not the only one, but everything starts with one person saying, yes, I do make a difference. And then it becomes infectious with others. And that’s just the American way. It’s a perfect discussion to have on Constitution Day.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it is a perfect discussion to have on Constitution Day. So what does this mean, next steps, Wendy Volk? What’s the next thing that’s going to happen?
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, you’re asking a very good question that I don’t know, and I don’t know if a lot of us know, because I don’t think we’ve ever had a project of this magnitude in our community that was coming through the permit process so quickly without enough discussion without enough public input. It was just they were checking off boxes too quickly without slowing down to say, did we give the citizens the information they need? And so now I think the company is Repsol and they had a phenomenal turnout of their legal staff and their corporate staff was there. I think they’ll have to decide what the next steps are. Is I think it’s a two-step process to go through any type of an industrial permit that’s like for wind or solar in our community. And that might be the same in other places, but I’m not familiar with other communities and what their protocols are. But here we have to get the county permit as well as the state. industrial siting permit. And we just recently redid our land use regulations. And I think because we’re seeing this change in terms of agriculture land changing into industrial projects, the recommendation on our new land use regs is that the company go first through the industrial siting permit process. That’s probably more of a 3,000 plus page permit. It’s much more in depth and it is involving all of the state agencies, which they’re the ones really weighing in on something like this. When we talked about the traffic, that’s the Wyoming Department of Transportation, because a lot of the roads are state highways. If we were talking about wildlife, a lot of that is getting input from the Wyoming Game and Fish. So a lot of the concerns we had that were from the concerned citizens were really more state related. And our county commissioners, you know, one of them keep repeatedly telling us, you know, your concerns about water and the impact of the aquifer. That’s a state engineer question. And, you know, they need to weigh in on. So everything, it seems so premature for the county and the county commissioners for us to be discussing this at such a great level of detail with such a huge potential impact. If it had passed yesterday, then… I think the company would be getting ready to start ordering materials for this project and start preparing. Now I think they have to regroup and decide. Do they appeal this at a district court level? Do they rethink if they should submit their state permit, the industrial siting permit? They’ve not yet done that. So they’re at crossroads. I think we’ll find out what direction they and the private property owners in the state wish to take on this matter. But it’s really eye-opening. I’m still in shock that we walked out of the historical court building last night to say, so now what? Now what? And I think that’s it. We don’t know yet. But it isn’t just one person. I think if one person has concerns, they need to ask a whole lot of people a lot of questions, especially I don’t have the area of expertise yet. When I first started asking the questions and people kept giving me more and more wonderful resources to read, people to contact. That’s how, you know, I think our paths have crossed with one another on this project was just continuing to say, hey, what do you know about this? Who should I talk to? Trent, he forwarded me some wonderful information when I was on the show and I didn’t know about something. He sent me information. And then several of his listeners, they reached out to me and said, you should also read about this. And some of it, you know, I think we all have to read and familiarize ourselves to say, does this permit make sense? Does this article make sense? We need to really scrutinize and ask ourselves what makes sense and then come together to maybe overcome differences and solve some problems. We’ve got a lot. This is just one thing that’s probably going on, but it sure has preoccupied the last 60, 70 days of my life. Because it matters. We have a six-family ranch out there that’s been in the family 154 years. And ranching and agriculture is hard. It’s hard to keep businesses sustaining in the current world we’re in. But I’m glad for right now that the 170 wind turbines are not going to be on our horizon any time in the near future.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wendy Volk, congratulations. Trent Luce, your final thought to Wendy. It’s late breaking. Wendy, thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Trent?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, my final thoughts are twofold. My experiences tell me that the Spanish-owned energy company, which is trying to come in to Laramie County, Wyoming, to compile tax credits of the American public, there’s the question that needs to be answered. And that question will need to be answered because My experience says that this company will try to circumvent local control. They’ll go to the state industrial commission, state industrial commission, and the governor will try to bypass what the local people have said. And so the work is not complete, even though we celebrate where we’re at today. And all of this, by the way, is on the heels of another company that’s tried to do this same thing and has successfully done it that you and I, Kim, have talked about a lot. Xcel Energy has announced their customers in Minnesota and North Dakota will have a 19% pay increase or a cost increase on their energy bills for electricity per kilowatt hour because they’ve implemented too many wind turbines in their portfolio.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, boy. So, Wendy Volk, congratulations. And when you have a success like this, relish that, but realize that we must continue to stay vigilant. And I congratulate you, Wendy Volk. Way to go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you so much, Kim, and thank you, Trent. We appreciate all your support.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it is a big deal. These discussions happen. Another very important issue is our right to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves and our families. And that is why the work of the second syndicate, what they’re doing to try to keep our schools safe and just protect that particular right is so important.
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SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t think I can generate anything that hasn’t been said, Kim. I have nothing but respect for what he accomplished. I was fortunate one day before he spoke to a North Dakota Right to Life group to meet him and actually spent an hour recording him for a TV program. And if you just look at the number of young people that are inspired to do something they previously would not do, that is major kudos to what he accomplished.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and this is a turning point, I think, in our country.
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SPEAKER 15 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is important to remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And a great way to say thank you to honor them is to support the USMC Memorial Foundation. Trent Luce, I am broadcasting from home today, which I love it when everything works. But if the Internet’s wonky, it’ll dump me off sometimes. And so I’ve been on my phone. I watched that. And I also back and forth with text messages. So I was posing this amazing question to you. And then I realized I didn’t hear anything from you. And so that’s what happened. So, Trent Luce, my question to you was this regarding freedom of speech. Certainly not should not be inciting violence. However, the founders could be accused of inciting violence when they’re throwing the tea over the side of the ship at Boston Harbor. But people have to be responsible for their speech. What’s your thoughts about people losing their jobs because they have been celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk?
SPEAKER 12 :
First of all, I don’t understand celebrating the assassination of anybody. whether that is an evil dictator or that’s a person who is exercising their freedom of speech and being an American. I don’t understand why you do that. But I do share your suggested comment that we are stymieing speech in so many ways, shapes, and forms. If people want to show disrespect, should they lose their jobs? I don’t think that’s clear-cut in my world.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I’ve been asking people about it, and so freedom of speech, being thrown in jail because of what you say, I think we probably, just because of what you say, I don’t think that should happen. But yet, and John Boza with Boza Law, I asked him this the other day, and he had a really good answer, and that is that, and I’m paraphrasing how I remember it, is that that you have freedom to say what you want to say, but there’s also consequences. If, for example, your employer doesn’t want to have somebody that is celebrating the assassination of another person, and just because of what that person says, then perhaps you may not want them as an employee. And the employer should have the freedom to say that as well. So the person can say what they want to say, but they also have to realize that there’s consequences and responsibility for what they have to say as well. And I think that that’s one of the things that we’ve gotten away from in our education system is that realizing that there is responsibility for the things that you say and do. And so this, I think, can be a real… turning point in our country where people say, oh, there’s consequences to what I might say. And I think that that’s I think that’s good. I’m still working through this and I’m excited to hear what Jonathan Turley has to say up at Grand Lake U.S. Constitution Week regarding free speech in this age of rage. So it’s I just am questioning this. I want to hear what people have to say about this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, if you think about it at that level. There’s a difference, too, between an employer who is unemploying you because maybe you don’t fit into the culture of what we’re talking about. If, in fact, there were arrests because of something that somebody said in that blatant disrespect for an assassination, that would be a significant problem. But when you hire a group of people, and is there a difference if this is a public entity as opposed to a private business? Public entity, we’ve seen a tremendous number of teachers, professors, and people in education, which are publicly funded, who have said something and then have lost their positions. You know, I think there’s many layers to this, but at the end of the day, I agree 100% with what you said, and that is accountability. To be honest, isn’t that what we’ve been lacking from policymakers to educators all the way up and down the system is that there needs to be accountability to your actions and what you have to say and how it impacts other people.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, and I think that this is going to be a really important, it’s a monumental moment in our country. And that’s why these discussions that we have are so important. So I want to pivot to, I promised that we were going to talk about healthy meals for all school children, which this was something that was on the Colorado ballot. And there’s going to be two questions, Proposition LL and Proposition MM. Proposition LL is they collected more money from the taxpayer than they had anticipated from the ballot question back in 2022, which was ballot question FF. So they want to keep the money. They don’t want to give that back. But now it’s the classic soak the rich situation. 2.0 with this is they want to have a graduated income tax for another $100 million per year for people that earn more than $300,000 a year because they didn’t have enough money for the program. And this is a graduated income tax is based on Marxism. And that is where people are put into different groups. They’re treated differently. Of course, trying to take away the And property, revenue, money of people that have worked hard, taken risks and treat them differently than others is inherently Marxist. But I wanted to ask you about healthy meals for school children. What’s your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this is actually something that I’ve spent more time on than probably any other topic in 25 years because we have people promoting healthy schools, healthy diets and choices for students in schools or all institutions. And I’m going to include the military because military is driven by what is set forth by the dietary guidelines as well. When Donald Trump was first elected in his first term, Sonny Perdue – The Secretary of Agriculture, his very first interview was with me. He called me and he said, Trent, you’ve been so supportive. I want to give you the first interview out of the gate. I said, Sonny, thank you. And there’s something that you must accomplish in the USDA while you have your time. And that is. Make sure that whole milk and fat is no longer demonized within the school lunch program. He said, Trent, you’re absolutely right. I agree. We’ve got these kids on a path of starvation and depredation. We need to fix that. In the last 30 days of his tenure in the USDA, four years later, we did an interview again. And he said, Trent, I have failed in getting this accomplished. He said, we did not get where we need to be in school lunch programs. And we are putting these kids, again, I repeat, on a path of starvation, depredation. There is a tremendous amount of data. The science, in fact, I wrote my column about it this week, Kim. The science is so clear that animal protein and animal fat must be included in the diet of every human being. And as you age, protein is more important. And I wanted to share one more story that ties into all of this. In 2002, Lindsay Allen, a researcher from the University of California, Davis, went to Kenya. She spent two years with kids in Kenya. She had a group of kids that were on diets with animal protein, animal fat, which included eggs and milk. And she had kids that had no animal products. She came back to the United States, held a press conference, and said, She went so far as to say in that press conference, and I have a recording of it, she said, In fact, it was so significant, I believe that we should consider charging parents who do not make sure their kids are accessing this nutrition to be in possible child neglect. Those are big statements. I got a hold of her when I heard her say this. And do you know that she talked to me on the phone? but that she would not come to an event that I wanted her to come to. She would not join me in a broadcast because after she made those statements about what true healthy diets were for our young people, she was threatened. She basically lost her voice. They stymied her to where she wouldn’t even leave her house because she was living in fear. That information needs to get to the public. I’m talking about the information on what a healthy diet is. And if we as parents do not go to our school systems, and the U.S. government, the USDA, holds these schools at ransom, and if you make whole milk available in your school, they will withdraw all USDA funding. They have these schools so afraid not to comply, and their standards are less than adequate.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really? Okay, so here we have this proposition, MM, increased state taxes for healthy school meals. And that ballot title, although the actual question on the ballot, it’s, I think, 20, almost 20, maybe 30 pages long. So you have to say, so what are they really doing if it has to have that many pages? But this is something that sounds attractive to people. They say, I don’t make $300,000. Go ahead, have them pay more in taxes. I think it’s a great idea that kids get healthy meals at school, and it’s wonderful that I don’t have to pay for it. So what’s your comments on that, Trent?
SPEAKER 12 :
Again, I have a problem with the term healthy. What are they calling healthy? I’m telling you they’re going to tax people more money and not improve the health and well-being and the cognition, the ability to think for these kids in school. Why are we giving so many kids Ritalin and all these other things? that they need to pay attention because we don’t feed them correctly, nor do they get fed correctly at home. So, no, I’m not in favor of any more money for anybody until we figure out what a healthy meal is.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. And so how do we do that? What’s the next steps? What should that look like?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, just look at the data. And I have a friend, Nina Teicholz. who just comes from a completely different walk of life than me. She grew up in the University of California, Berkeley. She grew up there because her father was a professor. She’s a 27-year vegetarian. She is an investigative journalist. Anybody can find her book about meat. It’s absolutely fantastic. And she got an assignment, this is 15 years ago now, to look at why people continue to have cardiovascular issues and cancer and diabetes. And she knew that it was because people ate animal protein and animal fat. So she started researching that. And lo and behold, she figured out that we’ve been lied to since 1977. Ansel Keys, University of Minnesota, started this baller rolling. And Nina Teicholz, The Big Fat Surprise is the name of the book that she wrote. And the reason I’m talking about Nina Teicholz in this regard is that she went on her personal campaign after learning that she had been wrong. And I met with her in Manhattan, New York, and we had breakfast together, and she talked about she changed her whole concept. She was a 27-year vegetarian. She made sure her kids started every morning with bacon and eggs and animal fat and animal protein. And she was living at the USDA and Health and Human Services office for six years. In fact, I got her in some doors during the first Trump administration that she didn’t think she could get in. And she said, it is true that these people do not want the truth. They banned her from making presentations to the committee, which is 50% Health and Human Services, 50% USDA. They appoint these physicians and different people from Tufts University and Harvard and all these places. And she calls me so many times depressed and saying that they don’t want the truth. The answer is the same as what Wendy Volk brought to us before. Until parents in massive numbers stand up and say, you are not feeding my kid properly at school, I refuse to allow you to continue to put them on a path of starvation and depredation. Until we do that en masse, they’re going to continue to get away with it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. So I think you and I are both no on this particular ballot question. I agree with you on that. And also, from the tax standpoint, I don’t think that that’s the proper role of what’s supposed to be done either with a progressive income tax system. Trent Luce is always so fascinating and always gets us all thinking. We may not always agree on everything, but it’s so important to have a conversation. And I really appreciate the great work that you do for the people that feed and fuel us and also how you honor our veterans as well.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you, Kim. It’s a pleasure to partner with you. God bless the veterans and the farmers who feed us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that’s for sure. And our quote for the end of the show is from James Madison, father of the Constitution, who said this, where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 08 :
Like a new moon rising fierce Through the rain enlightening Wandering out into this great unknown I don’t want no one to cry. But tell them if I don’t survive.
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