In this episode of A Guy’s Perspective, the hosts delve into the complex journey of building a life as a man today. They engage in deep conversations about the importance of structure within the household and how it lays the foundation for future success. The episode also explores the impact of absent fathers, the challenges men face when trying to rebuild their lives, and the essential steps they can take to overcome mental barriers and succeed.
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I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man.
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
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How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM. You can always talk to the guys. We’re on air from 2 to 3 every Saturday. You can always reach us at 303-477-5600. Again, that’s 303-477-5600. Just to let all of our listeners know, it’s a new year. We’re just… Letting you know we’re the Guys Perspective. We focus on guys’ needs. That’s basically what we do. We can’t really help women because we’re not women. We focus on guys. And starting now, we’re going to do like a community group. So one Saturday, our last Saturday of the month, if you go to theguysperspective5 at gmail.com, we’d like you to come in and sit with the guys. And any topic you want to talk about, we’re going to cater the show after you. If you want to talk about transgenderism, we’re going to talk about it. If you want to talk about the current presidency, we’re going to talk about it. If you want to talk Bible, we’re going to talk about it. If you want to talk about your low rider in the driveway, we’re going to talk about it. You know what I’m saying? But in order to come on the show, you need to go to theguysforsective5 at gmail.com. Send us a message saying you want to be a part of the show, and we’re going to bring you on. We’re going to build a community. So let’s go around the room. Introduce yourself, guys.
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This is Andre with Advanced Tech Electric. I’m Brock. I’m the janitor.
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This is Heath Heine.
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All right. Our topic is how do you build your life as a man or woman? What do you guys think about that? That’s an interesting topic.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s an interesting topic because it requires you to create a foundation, right? I’m curious, if we had a world without men and we could still populate or procreate, do you think the world would run better? You women out there especially, would the world run better without men?
SPEAKER 12 :
could or as men do men create the foundation of what’s up can i put a question out there who would help you as a parent be a better man uh your mom or your dad your dad so if your dad is not in the house okay statistically you’re probably are statistically you are right so then your mom would probably help you be a better thought be a better man
SPEAKER 03 :
Not necessarily. Statistically, there are things where they brought up and I can look it up. You know, I don’t have them with me right now, but a lot of men are when they’re not in that family, that household typically does not do well, especially as the child gets older. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go ahead. And I only bring it up because I didn’t, my dad left me as a kid. What? Eight. But when he was there, I always did good in school. Always got good grades. But then when he left, I felt free to do whatever I wanted. And my mom had no control of me. So in doing that, I failed. I flunked out of school, hung out with the wrong people. But when my dad was there, that didn’t happen. But when he was gone, that’s when I lived.
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Like structure-wise? Yeah, of course. But here’s one of the problems, too, though, is anybody who’s part of a broken household, whether it be ran by the male or the female left, They’re going to be broken. They’re going to be working on their own psychology, their emotions, their everything. So how could they possibly give you all that you need as a child? Don’t you think? Or female in a broken house.
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So would you say that… Neither one of them could lead well. Would you say that as a person begins to travel in life and begin to build their life, what comes first? Respect, career, religion, or the ability to express yourself? Which one of those come first?
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s kind of back to Brian, which what he’s talking about is structure. Whether there is structure or is not structure in the household, that’s going to be a determining factor for how you begin to build your life.
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Well, I think success is an ambition, whether you’re talking about financial, like monetary-wise, or whether you’re talking about in school or whatever the case may be. I think for most of us, we want to be successful. We want to be appreciated, right? We want to be valued first and foremost. That’s just my opinion. And then maybe God afterwards. Because not too many people know God. Some people are agnostic, atheist. They don’t know God.
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So what do they lean on? But everybody’s trying to live a life. Correct. Whether they know God or not.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I think structure is number one because if you have structure in the house, they’re going to lead you. If they have the right structure, they’re going to lead you into believing in God. So if your parents have the right structure, they’re bringing you to church. You see what I’m saying? So if they’re bringing you to church, then you can’t have God later or first because the parents are teaching you to believe in God in the beginning with that structure.
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I’d like to say that one of the things pertaining to success, like Brock was talking in any and all of those endeavors, success is really the ability to get back up and try again. Relationship, relationship with God, financial work and everything, everything like that to keep trying.
SPEAKER 11 :
And listen, people, call us at 303-477-5600. That’s interesting we’re talking about a foundation first and getting back up and what makes a man. And we’ll get back on topic, but I think this goes along with what we’re talking about. That gentleman who the ice came and tried to take him and he left his five-year-old boy there and took off running.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
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How do you think that would affect that kid as he goes through life? You think he’ll remember that even though he’s five?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that kid’s going to be the next El Chapo. If that happened to you, you’d be left alone.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I guess what I’m wondering is once that foundation’s built, how crucial is the development of a man’s mind at that point? Can a man fail in life because he cannot seem to get his mind in order?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. That’s deep. Well, when you think about it, I think a lot of men in general, when they fall, because it’s not an if, it’s a when. According to the Bible, right? A win? Well, it is. Yeah, for sure. I mean, but it’s getting back up that makes a man righteous or a woman righteous. But when a person falls, I’ll tell you what, sometimes that fall can affect you in your future because you’re always looking back at the past, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, think about how many men have failed, you know, cheated on their wives or so be it, and the kids want nothing to do with their parent afterward.
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So you think that the mental part of a man – because I think a man can rebuild himself, but I think there are steps he has to take. Sure. Like how he presents himself, how he dresses, how he thinks. But if he’s always got that mental block of – I’m never going to reach my goals. What would you men say to a man that’s listening to us right now who thinks, I can’t succeed anymore. I’ve tried everything and I’ve fallen on my face. What advice would you three men give them?
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That harkens back to one of our episodes, which was talking about imposter syndrome, does it not? Like where somebody, if they can’t get past the mental state of failure and shortcomings, if they can’t move past that, then how can they move forward toward anything?
SPEAKER 03 :
wow you know and i also think too is you know biblically speaking you know there’s always a landmark that was made there was always a milestone a milestone or otherwise there was a altar that was built so if we look at it you know whenever you know the in the old testament we look at these different altars that were built and usually those altars were based on something that god did or something they came through the children of israel came through a lot of times, sometimes when you fall, that’s new altar and it doesn’t mean your death or your demise as a human being. It just means that I remember in 1988 or whatever, I had this happen to me, but now, you know, it’s, 30 plus years later, I’m living good. 40 years later, you know, I’ve overcome it. Sometimes I think we forget that. We forget that once we fell. And that’s okay. But we can’t live there. But look how far we’ve come. And the thing is, if you fall on your face, that’s not always a bad thing. Sometimes that means it’s just time to pray.
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So why do you think in 2025, men struggle with… their day-to-day lives, like providing for their family, building not only a home for their girlfriend or their wife or their kids, but building their own life. Why is it so difficult for them?
SPEAKER 04 :
What’s it say in the scripture? It says that whatever the hand finds to do, do it with all your might. And also pertaining to like your neighbor and stuff like that, like mind your own business. Yeah. That’s good. Oh, yeah, that’s good. And if we’re not minding our business because we’re so overwhelmed by all of these platforms and we are moved to try to keep up with the Joneses or be like this or the other, how can we possibly succeed? Because we, yeah.
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And piggybacking on what you said, you know, a lot of these things are unrealistic expectations that are set upon us. When you look at Hollywood, you see all these so-called, yeah, you see all this stuff going on where they’re saying, yeah, this is what it’s like on, what’s that show that you like to watch, Brian? Pimp My Ride. Not Pimp My Ride. What’s the marriage show? The guy’s always getting pimped.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, Bachelor.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bachelor. The Bachelor. You tell me that’s real life. Yeah. You tell me that’s the way it really is in romance and how to build a romantic relationship. It’s not realistic, you know, and unfortunately that’s what we’re getting.
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And people call at 303-477-5600 because I think when a man is building himself up, he’s got to learn a little bit of gratitude not not for what other people do but for what he does for himself like he’s got to somehow get the mindset to say you know what i was pretty good at what i did today maybe maybe i can do a little bit better tomorrow
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a good point, too, because if you’re always beating yourself up. Oh, it’s huge. When I was doing a lot of Muay Thai, I remember one person told me, just because you missed or whatever, just because you didn’t get that routine or whatever, the kid says, stop beating yourself up. He goes, because that’s what you’re looking to do. You fight, so that way you can fight someone else. Don’t fight yourself.
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We are our worst critics. And I think this goes for male and female alike, men old and young. We’ve got to make sure that we have not only the mindset but the speech pattern of giving ourself praise and accolade for the things that we do.
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Because if most guys are like me, you look in the mirror and you think, God, man, my bank account doesn’t have seven figures yet. Like, what am I doing wrong? Where have I messed up? What path am I not taking at that moment?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s one of those speech pattern things. I don’t know if you guys caught it, but Brock had said, I don’t have seven figures in my bank account yet. I like that. Right, right. That’s a speech pattern thing. And by that pattern recognition, then your mind can allow yourself to be like, well, there’s the chance. There’s the opportunity.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. Yeah, because I think… Where I think men mess up, and this is just me, is we don’t have the ability, it seems like, to stand up for ourselves. Like, everything crumbles in front of us. And instead of us saying, hey, you know what? Everything’s falling apart in my life. I’m going to put a stop to it right now. Whatever I have to do to stop everything in my life crumbling, I’m going to do it at this point.
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But most people get into a cycle, and that’s very hard to come out of. Explain. Once you have something that’s going on all the time, and you’re used to having no money, you’re used to having the dead-end job, you’re just continuing in that cycle. Well, that’s what I’m saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
How do you get out of that, though? I mean, are you just existing?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, of course. Wow, that’s a strong word right there. You just exist. That’s very good.
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I mean, you become comfortable with your situation. Why do you think people out here are homeless? Because after a year of doing it, you just become complacent with what situation you’re in. Wow, this is good. Call at 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 11 :
Man, you guys are talking deep right now.
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Yeah. What urges you to get up out of the chair, man? The spring that’s poking you in the butt? You would hope. I mean, because so the hard times are the ones that like motivate you to have to do something. But when things are just simple and easy… Anybody who’s worth their salt knows to take advantage of the opportunity in the good times. Wow. And I’ve missed that. I’ve missed that a couple times in my life. Tell us about it. When things were rocking and rolling with the business, there were opportunities. I just missed them to be able to, okay, starting windshield replacements. I only started it two years ago. I should have started it 30 years ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
Brian, what were you going to say? I mean, just think about, you know, not speaking ill of anybody, but think about the people that are really extremely overweight, right? The percentage of them are going to continue down eating bad, eating the way they are. But then you get the small percentage of people who are going to say, I’ve had enough, right? Going to get out of that chair and they’re going to do something about it and they’re going to change their situation. But the percentage is low.
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Well, I was going to say there’s that quote about hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
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Just that circle, that cycle keeps going.
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Because it’s weird, because I heard Nick Saban make a comment about… hunting dogs and show dogs like a hunting dog is a part of a group he he works together they work together they’re a community for the betterment of their football team but a show dog is about me me me me me and sometimes I wonder if as men like you were saying Brian like they get stuck in a rut and And sometimes I think they take on a mindset of woe is me. Woe is me. All this always happens to me. Why is it always happening to me and it’s not happening to the guy down the street? And that might be the wrong mindset.
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So you’re saying that it’s imperative to have like a group, an accountability partner or somebody so that even when you have low times, you have somebody to pull you up and out.
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Yeah, you do need a support group.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s very true, man. Conversely, when you are real lofty and haughty and heady and you think you’re all that and a bag of chips, they can knock you down. They can say, no, you didn’t come with a bag of chips.
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People call at 303-477-5600. This is good. This is good conversation.
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Oh, yeah. Because I want to say one thing. Okay, so like success and failure, right? What about these people who succeed in capacities that really end up being detrimental to life?
SPEAKER 11 :
child child star actors oh wow wow oh yeah seems like success doesn’t it right seems like success and it always goes bad look at the fallout look at the fallout that happens afterward well let me ask you that’s funny you just said that do you think people that win the lottery do you think there’s like a lot of them that regret taking in all the money they get i would think that it would make you happy right I mean, you know what I’m saying? Because you read certain things of like how this person wishes they didn’t obtain that. They wish they were back to their own, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know one thing Jim Carrey said. I wish that all of you could have the fame and success that I have so you could see it’s not the answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Wow. Absolutely. And you know, the other thing, too, is what do you build your foundation on? Right. I always allude to the four legged chair. You know, once you start knocking out one of those chairs, eventually, you know, if all three of those legs go away, like, let’s say it’s your money or finances. I’m sorry, your finances, your family. You know, I mean, what do you do?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Spirituality. Now you’re just sitting on one stick.
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You’re just sitting on one leg. Right. And what’s that leg based on? What is that thing that’s going to pull you out?
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Wow. Yeah. I mean, that’s a good point that you’re bringing up because like if one leg goes out from underneath you like a family member, you should be preparing for that. Like inside, right? Don’t you believe? You should be preparing yourself mentally before it occurs. You know somebody close to you is going to die. You know that’s just the way of life. Your mom’s bound to die. Your girlfriend’s bound to die. Or so forth, right? You should be preparing yourself mentally so when it comes along, you’re able to stand.
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Well, and to couple with you there, B, it’s a lot of times – I don’t know if you guys caught yourself with this, but somebody will talk about something like loss, but it doesn’t resonate with you until you’ve experienced loss.
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Yeah.
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I don’t know that there’s a way to prepare.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s funny you guys are talking about that because my next question was, as men, we have to learn to welcome responsibility because there’s so many times we’re in a situation – For example, money. Like a person passes away and we don’t have any way to afford a funeral because we were out spending our money on dumb stuff. Like maybe we wanted a new snowboard or we wanted a new truck. Instead of storing… You know what keeps coming to my mind? It says, look to the ant. I don’t know why I keep thinking about that. But seriously, those dudes are storing up. I mean, nature itself tells you that stuff. But us as human beings seem to have… I would say, I don’t have a number, but let’s say there’s 5 million people here in Colorado. I would venture off to say 3 million of them got zero in their bank account in the savings.
SPEAKER 04 :
Probably more.
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You think more?
SPEAKER 04 :
Probably more. Most people are just paycheck to paycheck and don’t even have a thousand dollars in the bank.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s scary. That’s scary to think, man. Yeah, you’re right, because when you think about it, just because you have the money in your account, what is that credit card balance holding? I mean, technically it’s a negative against your account, right? Oh, yeah.
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It’s a negative, yes. Because this is why things like, you know, for all their communal efforts and stuff, things like GoFundMes are thriving in an industry like – in our existence because most people are ill-equipped or not prepared at all for disaster. Oh, yeah.
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And listen, we’re talking about building a foundation. We’re talking about what builds a man. What steps does he have to take? Call in at 303-477-5600.
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Yeah, I’m the first to admit, I mean, I was so foolish with my money for what, the last 20 years? I had a cush living with mom, you know, great job. I should have been putting, you know, $40, $50 away for the last 20 years. Wow. And easy. I would say the last 25 years, I should have been having $50, $100 a month saved. I could have had $100,000 by now.
SPEAKER 04 :
How easy would it have been to put away $100,000? Easy. I mean, easy. Okay, how easy would it have been to put away $1,000 a month?
SPEAKER 12 :
That task would have been a little difficult.
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But here’s what we’re talking about. It’s got to be a shift in our minds. That’s the problem with men.
SPEAKER 12 :
But that’s the problem. That’s the problem. See, I didn’t realize how important it was until it became important, but it was too late.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow.
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So I didn’t really see it as important because it was cush. I was living with my mom, had no bills, but now it comes up, rents through the roof. the bills, the groceries, and so forth. And now I look back and I’m like, dude, I should have been saving money for this time and purpose in life. People, this is good.
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This is real talk about we’re being real men right now. This is transparent stuff. How to live a life.
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yeah yeah well what does success mean i mean it means so many different things to different people really right you think about it some some find it in wealth some find it and just being a good you know father or you know good husband or whatever the case may be you know so i think also we need to define that area too is what makes you a success just because you don’t have the money doesn’t mean you’re not successful let’s just be real true right Because there’s people, men out there, that feel like complete, utter failures because they don’t have the money in their bank account. They feel like the trains are already left the station because, you know. No, he’s right with that. Oh, yeah, of course.
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The worst thing a man can go through is not having money to provide. Dude, when you got that four-year-old that wants a new bike and you have to look your kiddo in the face and say, hey, man, I can’t afford it. Yeah. That’s a hard task, dude, especially when all their friends have got one. I guess it comes down to, let me ask each one of you guys this, and we’ll even open it to our listeners. You can either call, we’ve got three minutes left, or tell us on the other side at 303-477-5600. What is the one thing in your life right now you were most grateful for?
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I’ll tell you what I’m being self-employed or running my own business and the reason why is because I’m the boss if I don’t make anything that’s my fault and the nice thing about is I don’t have to rely on someone else you my customers are my boss really when you think about it and it’s up to me to foster that relationship it’s up to me to create more growth and sometimes when you work for somebody you’re allowing them to dictate your life whereas you know when you’re when you have your own business, you’re creating the wealth that, you know, you’re able to gather yourself. And that feels pretty powerful, in my opinion. You know, it really helps out.
SPEAKER 12 :
I would have to say church. I’d have to say God, first and foremost, because anytime hard problems come, any situation shows up, I have somebody to call on that can help me, lead me, and guide me in what she has done. Amen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Amen. I guess it would be health and physical ability, man. That’s something I’m really grateful for. Breath in my lungs and all ten fingers, all ten toes. You know what I mean? Because then I should look at that as such a blessing when other people with less have achieved more.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh my God. Have you guys, have you guys saw that? Like, I don’t know where I saw this, but I, it’s coming to my mind now. I saw a person, they were, they were in a window and they were looking out to the street and they were like, man, I wish I, and the person they were looking on the street was in like a wheelchair or something. They’re like, I wish I could be like that. Yeah. The person was wheelchairs. Like, I wish I could walk in and the other person to bust up was like, I wish I could have this and that. It really makes you wonder. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I agree. But, you know, getting back to what you said, Brian, about God, at some point in our life, I think all of us have to come to that realization that, I mean, look at jails, for instance. What do they have in there? You know, Bible studies, prison ministries, etc. Because sometimes when you go to the lowest of the lowest, when you’ve lost your family, when you’ve lost your finances, when a judge is dictating where you’re going to sleep and eat, You know, most people will turn to God in that instance. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think that’s why sometimes hard times come in people’s lives, because if you’re walking the road that you shouldn’t be walking, you’ve completely abandoned your faith, abandoned church. You live in your life however you want. The bad time comes to realign you to where you actually need to be and what road and path you should be on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tell you, I’m no Job, bro, but I’ve had some hard times and I shake my fist at God. I’m sorry, Lord.
SPEAKER 11 :
And on the other side, call us at 303-477-5600. Guys, this is a really good topic because I think at the end of the day, This is for me is I think men are lacking self-esteem with inside of ourselves. In 2025, because there’s so many things coming against our minds.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s a bombardment on our minds. You’re either not making enough money. You’re not being successful. You don’t love yourself enough. You’re not going to be good at this. You’re not going to be good at your career. You’re not. You know what I’m saying? Like it’s a nonstop date. Listen.
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How’s everybody doing today? This is the second half of The Guy’s Perspective here on KLZ 560 AM. Every Saturday from 2 to 3, we’re on the air. Call us at 303-477-5600. And you can talk to guys. We’re talking about how does a man build his life and cultivate his life. And it was interesting. We ended and we’re talking about distractions. Men get so distracted from what they’re supposed to be doing as a man. The goal. The goal. That’s perfect. What about the meaning?
SPEAKER 04 :
What does it mean, the meaning behind the goal?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. That’s a really good question right there. I would think the meaning behind the goal is this right here. To cultivate essential life skills, such as maintaining your home as a man, learning how to cook as a man, taking care of finances as a man. And just presenting yourself as a true man, because we learned we’re all the modern men here. We’re no longer, at least according to our show and according to what it says, we’re all the modern man.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, it makes me think of guys in biblical times. Obviously, all times are biblical, really, when you think about it. We’re in it, too. But harken back to, like, David or anything like that. Musician. He was a warrior. A father, a husband, a philosopher. Yeah, he was a renaissance man when you think about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he was.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I think that’s back to those, like a chair with the four legs and stuff, that we have to do that in life. You have to make sure that you have several things, spiritual, financial, emotional, emotional. Yeah, relational.
SPEAKER 11 :
When does a man, after the foundation has been built, whatever foundation he takes, whether it’s spiritual, financial, mental, when does that man become the person or when does he find his higher purpose?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think when you find balance, right? That’s really good. When there’s a balance in your life where you’re not, you know, hyper spiritual, seeing a devil in every picture or whatever the case may be, or that when hard times come, it’s a sign from God. I mean, it’s good balance for everything that we do in this life. Balance with family, balance with God, balance with finances, etc.
SPEAKER 04 :
I want to quote somebody, this guy Propaganda. I’ve probably said this before. He’s like a rap artist, a poet, and he talked about his dad, and his dad had been through four or five marriages, and he asked his dad for some advice. And his dad said he was he was a war vet. He said, I couldn’t get past the bomb, son. Either the ones that neither killed me or the ones that didn’t come. And he needed to be present. And that’s the that’s the most important thing is that we’re present. That’s right. Now we’re all present. We’re with one another.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you feel like you found your higher purpose in life?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do I? I’m still searching, man. Obviously, I’ve been running side to side with windshield repair as a leader, a business owner, and I’ve been doing the acting and obviously my relationships.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, Hank, how’s it going? Talk to us, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, enjoy you guys’ program. You always talk straight from the heart. Hey, I was going to ask you, have any of you guys ever listened to AM630, not to reference another station, but at 9 o’clock every evening… Monday through Friday, there’s a program on there called Our American Stories.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, we’ve never heard of it. We’ve never heard of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I’ve never heard of it. AM 630, and people write in, but he also tells good stories about strong people from our past and history. And he had this really interesting guy on there the other night that over the course of his life had come to be a champion of work. He owned this giant company called you know, seven-figure salary that employed a lot of people. But he asked him what was his success at work. And he says, to be successful in your life and in work, you must first have, there’s three things. You must first have integrity. And integrity, you know, is a oneness, a soundness, an honesty. And number two would be a willingness to work, which sounds like all you guys have. And then the third thing was drive, just never giving up, continuing to go, go, go, you know, no matter what happens, get back on your path and your plan. And the other thing. There’s another show, Dave Ramsey. Have you heard of Dave Ramsey?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. We’ve all followed his thing. Hank, Dave Ramsey helped me and my wife get out of $200,000 of debt following his career.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh. That’s great. No, well, he had to go through the bottom of the valley first. He had a big ego, and it went bankrupt. Then he decided to come back, and he did it just with simple eighth-grade math, grandma math. and the biblical terms, and he just never got off of that, and he kept learning. He’s still learning, and he’s another good program. He’s on, let’s see, he’s on AM 760 at 7 to 10, Monday through Friday, and he’s got a great radio program, and the people that call in are really stressed, got all kind of different problems, but these guys have come up with a lot of kind of good solutions, and Ramsey has a bunch of solutions.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hank, I got a question for you, because you sound like an older man who’s got it together. You sound like an older man who’s got it together. What would you say is emotional strength for a man? What would bring a man emotional strength?
SPEAKER 07 :
I like to go back to that thing of integrity. And for people that have self-doubt You know the cure for that?
SPEAKER 12 :
What’s that? Tell me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Accomplishment. Wow, that’s huge. Wow. What you put your mind to, to do it. And if that’s one thing I say to all you guys, you guys are great guys. You’re talking about a lot of different things. Thank God you have biblical foundations. But you need a plan. and some good books like have any of you ever read think and grow rich well i have i have quite a few times i’ve read it twice once read it read it five or ten times okay i i’ve also read the cash flow quadrant i’ve read um rod smith i’ve read you name it i read all the time man those are those are good books and they i call them brain food for your brain absolutely your brain is like a little garden and if you tend the garden and fertilize it and keep it in order and continue to work your plan, you’ll be successful. And the biggest thing that Ramsey says is live within your means. And we as men always see so many little old trinkets and things like they bought Manhattan for $24 worth of junk for the Indians. And we’ve got to save. I mean, once you start getting a little money in your bank account, you start to feel your power. and your power comes from so many things.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my God. Hank, thank you for calling. Thanks, Hank. That’s some good stuff right there. Thanks, old pro. Thank you for that. Thank you for calling in, and thank you for listening to us, and we really appreciate you. Don’t ever give up. The old pro. I asked him that question. First thing he said was integrity. Then he went deep into success. Because if you think about it, guys, thank you, Hank, for coming on the air. Again, people, it’s 303-477-5600. We’d love for our telephone lines to light up. Success. What have you done lately that’s been successful?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I was going to touch on one thing. Obviously, for those that know and don’t know, I, in 11 months, rehabbed a home from being a meth house to being like a livable, wonderful, beautiful home. I’ve never done it before in my life, and it’s our forever home. But the thing I wanted to touch on that Hank said was how many times do you read that book? And you said two, and he said read it five more times. That reminds me of Dave Ramsey because Dave Ramsey said something like when some people say they’ve taken his course and they’ve not gotten out of debt, then he said you flunked. You failed. Take it again. Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Think about that, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because we think we know something. We think we’ve grasped something. But if we do it again, then we’re going to have – that foundation already, and then we can really put to work the knowledge or wisdom that’s been bequeathed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and just another thing, too, what Hank was talking about. One thing is I think he was alluding to setting goals. Yes, for sure. Because if you don’t have a goal, and biblically speaking, if you don’t have a vision, the people will perish. One thing I would appreciate with my pastors is that they always created a vision for the new year. What aren’t we doing in our lives when we’re not creating a vision for our family, for our careers, for our spiritual walk, et cetera?
SPEAKER 11 :
Another thing, did I hear him right? Did he say once you start getting money in your bank account, it brings you power? He did say that. That is true. Dude, that’s biblical right there. It is. Success brings power.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, see, I try to set goals for myself, but then doubt sets in, and then what it’s going to take for me to reach that pinnacle, to reach my goals, and then it seems overwhelming. So then I just let it all fizzle out, and I let it flutter, and before you know it, I’m not even chasing my goals.
SPEAKER 11 :
So let me ask you this. Is success different than ego then at that point?
SPEAKER 04 :
Success and ego?
SPEAKER 03 :
They’re separate. They’re separate. I think they are separate too, but some people’s ego make them successful and some people’s egos cause them to fail. Oh, that’s deep.
SPEAKER 04 :
I want to harken back to the book of Hank 1-3. He said that with doubt, how do you overcome doubt and its accomplishment? That’s exactly what he said. So then you give yourself a couple of tasks that you can take on and win and succeed. For sure. Make breakfast for yourself. Right, right. No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because I was reading a book the other day, and it slipped my mind, but it’s something about time management, and that’s what it said. It said set goals that you can achieve because if a goal is too hard for you, You won’t chase it. So like you said, if your goal in the morning is to make breakfast, what you should do is that night before, set the pan on the stove so when you wake up, you see it.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I read this book by Admiral William H. McRaven. And it’s called Make Your Bed. Have you guys read that? The premise behind it is if everything else fails that morning, at least you can come home to a bed that’s been made. That sounds good. That’s true. You’ve already accomplished. You’ve already accomplished. First thing in the morning.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s funny we say that because I’m huge on making my bed. My dad was in the military. Listen, most people, you’re never going to meet my dad. You know what I’m saying? But he was in Vietnam for eight years. It’s so ingrained in him to make his bed as an old military man. Right when he gets up, that bed is made. Like, he don’t go take a shower. He don’t put on deodorant. He ain’t blowing a fart. That bed’s being made, bro.
SPEAKER 12 :
he’s making that this whole military man’s got that stuff down pat bro yeah but i mean i mean i’m listening to i’m listening to what all you are saying but i’ve seen the the other side of the spectacle too like i’ve seen people that were driven that had such success that had All the money that traveled the world, right? And ended up getting married, right? Bad circumstances in the marriage led into a divorce, which in return led them into losing everything that they strived for for 20 years. Now they don’t have a house. They lost all their money, you know, living with somebody else. So it’s like, okay, you can have a vision and you can go chase these things and be successful. But in a moment’s time, you could lose it all.
SPEAKER 11 :
But they can get back up also.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, how easy it is to win $4 or $5 million back if you’ve earned that over the last 20 years to gain $4 or $5 million? You act like it’s just coming every day though, bro.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s a mindset. That’s what we’re talking about. Once a person fails, they have to pick themselves back up.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I got a question for you, Brian. What do you define it? I mean, because when I hear you, you know, it’s just like you’re basically saying, never try, never fail. Does that mean, is that okay? Is that a good mindset for people? No.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think I’m speaking to myself. People call that 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 12 :
I see what you’re saying, and I feel like sometimes I say that to myself, so I don’t take that step. You know what I’m saying? Sometimes I feel like I’m saying that to you to stand firm by what I believe, but in retrospect, it’s probably speaking to me. How has it worked for you? I’m still living with mom. Are you afraid of success?
SPEAKER 11 :
Are you afraid of success and what that might be? That’s good because some people are afraid of it. That’s true. And listen, people, we haven’t talked about that on our show yet, and that’s a show we’re going to eventually talk about, but there are some people who are afraid of success.
SPEAKER 04 :
They are. It’s why I never made it as far as I had thought I would as an actor because I was afraid of the success and how it would bring me to P. Diddy parties and stuff. I just didn’t want to go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Guys, listen. Okay, so now let me ask you this. What does it mean in 2025 as a man, the foundation’s been built, you know what you want in life, what does it mean to you a handshake? Does a handshake still even exist? Since COVID, no. No, I’m saying is your word a handshake still or is that a thing of the past?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. If I tell you I’m going to be somewhere, and we don’t even have to handshake, if I say in a text or on a call that I’m going to be somewhere, I’m going to be there. I’ve learned to have separation, my yes be yes and my no be no, and try not to be in the middle there.
SPEAKER 03 :
So that’s integrity, kind of what Hank was alluding to.
SPEAKER 11 :
How hard was it for you as men or just men in general to get to that point to where you just have to step back every once in a while and say, I got too much on my plate.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can’t do it. That’s a good point. You actually have to know when to say no. And sometimes we are overcommitted, especially in churches and sometimes in not churches. not to mock anybody or to put anybody down but there’s a good point where even biblically speaking moses you know was basically was given a uh his uh stepbrother had to come in and give yeah aaron or not not aaron his father-in-law i’m sorry the jethro principle where he basically had to come in and say you’re doing way too much let’s take the load off and i think that’s where we got a balance
SPEAKER 12 :
Because there’s nothing wrong with being a guy and saying no. Yeah, but what about a guy like me who always wants to please somebody? I want to be the good guy to you. So if somebody asks, yeah, it’s to my default. But on the other hand, I’ve been that way forever. So if somebody comes to me and says, hey, I need you here, I need you there, whatever it be, I want to be the good guy because you’re putting your trust in me. Yeah, I’m going to be there, but knowing I might not be able to make it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Listen, people, this is really good conversation. Call at 303-477-5600 because there’s nothing wrong with being a guy and saying no.
SPEAKER 03 :
Boundaries.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 03 :
Boundaries. That’s when you’ve got to have well-established boundaries. Just like what Heath said, if I can’t be there, then don’t say you’re going to be there. And it’s okay, like Brock was saying, it’s okay to say, no, I can’t make it this time. That way at least someone can plan it out. But if you’re getting to the point of exhaustion and you can’t even take care of your family or your finances – What good have you become? You know, basically people pleasing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. It’s not really good. Because it’s all right to tell somebody if you have listened people and I don’t know who’s listening to us. It’s got 50 million in your bank account, but it is all right to tell your family member. No, I’m not buying you that new car. Yeah, it’s perfectly fine. But the problem with men is.
SPEAKER 04 :
is i think like brian said pride not not even pride i think we want to help people to make it maybe it is pride to make us feel good yeah yeah i guess that’s what it comes down to it’s a lot of times it’s pride and ego i’ve done this in my life uh many times to a fault where uh um i i would i would i would help in capacities that i probably shouldn’t have Because it was detrimental to the person I was helping. And then detrimental to me. And so it’s like casting pearls before swine. There’s a right time and a place. And if you don’t move in the spirit and have the spirit tell you when to do or give, then it’ll probably be detrimental.
SPEAKER 12 :
Brian. But with that being said, why, when you said it’s okay for a man to have $50 million in his bank account and not, you know, say no, why is it that people with less money seem to help people more than the people with the money?
SPEAKER 04 :
They don’t have control.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I think they don’t understand finances.
SPEAKER 04 :
They don’t understand money. They don’t understand its purpose. For sure. And then when they have it, easy come, easy go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because when you don’t understand money, you make bad financial decisions, dude.
SPEAKER 04 :
I got one. It’s the parable of the unjust steward. Remember, it was called to that steward to account for everything that he had, right? And what did he do? He called in everybody. He was like, hey, Andre, you owe $8,000. Go ahead and give me $4,000. And then to Brock and on down the line, he was cutting everybody a deal. And why was he cutting him a deal? Because he didn’t know what he was going to be able to do when he got out of that position and he was trying to pad it so that they would take him in for food and clothing and shelter and all of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
People, we’ve got nine minutes left, 303-477-5600. The last thing I’m hoping we’re top on is self-reflection. When, after everything, after a man has been built, he’s now in his 40s, his 50s, maybe even his 60s. Does he start to regret decisions he made? When does he start self-reflecting on himself?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think psychology says around the 50s we start to do that and even up to the 60s. But, you know, in fact, that’s where a lot of men in that age range tend to fall into a deeper depression, you know, because they start to reflect. But the problem is that’s where you got to take care of your mental health. And I think men do not prioritize mental health.
SPEAKER 11 :
Jesus, that’s good, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
We just don’t.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is so good.
SPEAKER 03 :
Say that again, man. Say that was really good. About prioritizing mental health. Yeah, say that. Yeah, we don’t. We don’t prioritize our mental health. Men are always the fixtures of a relationship, you know. But yet we don’t take care of our own issues, you know. And that’s the problem that we run into.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because I deal with that daily. I sit back and I self-reflect like, Jesus, why didn’t I make that step to do eight? Listen, I might be an engineer, but just because I’m an engineer doesn’t mean I’m the smartest tool in the shed, dude. By no means am I, because if that was the case… I wouldn’t sit there in my bed at night and self-reflect about all the stupid decisions I made by not with money.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think there’s some wisdom in that, but it’s about not leaning all the time on that, basically brooding over that, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Sometimes you just got to just own it and just move on. That’s good. What do you guys think about self-reflecting in your 40s, 50s, 60s?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it can be detrimental.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because then I think it could bring condemnation. It could bring… What if you’ve done great things in your life? Because it goes both ways. You either do good or bad. Yeah, but in my life, then it’s just going to be bad because I’ve made so many bad mistakes. You got them out of the way now.
SPEAKER 10 :
You got them out of the way.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s like you never learned your lesson. You know, somebody told me a story a long time ago about if the Lord gives you a test, make sure you pass it the first time so you don’t have to take it over again. And it seems like I just took the test over and over and over.
SPEAKER 11 :
I just don’t believe the Lord works like that. Oh, he does. I don’t. I believe life. I believe because I’ve heard you guys say it. I heard you guys say it. What’s the Genghis Kong saying that you guys say?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, that you’re the rat.
SPEAKER 11 :
Say it again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Basically that he’s the wrath that God put upon the people.
SPEAKER 11 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s the wrath that God put upon. I am the hand of God.
SPEAKER 11 :
I am the hand of God coming to execute judgment on some people. I think the way it works is I think in life, Men fall down, fall down, fall down. Either you become successful, fall down, or you fell down, then you become successful. And as you’re sitting there self-reflecting, I think self-reflecting can be a good thing. Falling and being tested is two different things.
SPEAKER 12 :
What’s the difference? Falling down is falling down to temptations. I have been in college nonstop, and when I flunk a test, that’s falling to me. No, that’s not falling. That’s how I feel when I’m in school. That’s being unprepared.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my God. That’s being unprepared when I get an F on a test? Yeah, I would say you didn’t study enough.
SPEAKER 12 :
You should have stayed off your phone.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think I’ve fallen on my face when I get an F and not an A. Well, it’s just like you guys have said. Money is something that needs to be learned. Money management, right? If you don’t have the money in your account, you haven’t managed the money well because you haven’t learned how to do it right. Just like you alluded to, Brian. But now you recognize it, like Heath said, and that’s where we start to become self-aware.
SPEAKER 11 :
See, and that’s where I’m hung up. He’s saying that falling down and being tested and not passing is two separate things. I look at it as the same thing, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER 12 :
wrong okay i’m saying you could use your falling down as a test as a test of preparing you to not make the same mistake so when does god test a person then i or when does life test a person well i i can’t answer that i mean i think on a daily basis you know we’re tested right according to the bible
SPEAKER 03 :
But with that said, I’ve always said that just because you fail doesn’t mean you’re a failure. Just because you fail doesn’t mean that you have to stay down. In fact, according to the Bible, a righteous man, no matter how many times they fall, they get right back up. And that’s something that we need to teach our young.
SPEAKER 12 :
yeah that’s good that you just i was just about to say that the guy that followed seven times got back up what did he call him righteous righteous so then then then if the dude fell down isn’t that him fell in a test didn’t he he probably fell in his test i was gonna say too i don’t know if it’s a book but it’s about falling forward learning to fall forward that’s good which is which is uh
SPEAKER 04 :
Almost expecting the – prepare for the worst and expect the best or something like that so that you can make sure that you learn something out of it. Like that’s the success. The success is learning after that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because I don’t believe any man. Listen, man, this is just me. I could be wrong. We got three minutes left. Call at 477-5600. I do not believe there’s a man on this planet that has not fallen on their face countless times. How could you even? How could you? Elon Musk, the richest guy in the world, and I read his stuff 24-7. And he talks about almost going bankrupt all the time, dude. Shouldn’t we?
SPEAKER 04 :
In addition to falling forward, shouldn’t we also fail often or something like that? Because how do you grow otherwise? If we’re not failing often, we’re not trying enough. Exactly.
SPEAKER 12 :
My perfect example is Thomas Edison. He didn’t make the lead ball but a thousand times. Is he falling?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think he did fail every time he messed up. The same with the Wright brothers when they didn’t fly the first time. That’s a failure?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Every time you fail. Abraham Lincoln was a great example as well as someone who was considered by most a failure. God, I wish we had more time with this guy. I think that’s failure, right? He became the president of the United States, but look how often he failed before that.
SPEAKER 11 :
And people, we will get more into this. I wish we had more time. We don’t. And we have a call. Yeah. Can you let them come through for one minute? I don’t think we have enough time, but we can talk to them off air. Put them on the phone. Okay, we have somebody. Well, anyway, what we’re saying is that when people fall down and they make mistakes, I personally believe they – how’s it going?
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, okay, okay. We’re just learning what to do here, people. Okay, so hop on the phone. All right, bye. Hop on the phone, Andre, and put him on speaker right here.
SPEAKER 1 :
All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know
SPEAKER 06 :
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