Join Dana Lash as she delves into contentious yet intriguing topics surrounding cultural and political shifts. This episode scrutinizes the decision-making processes behind renaming ships in the U.S. Navy and the larger social and political narratives these decisions reflect. Featuring a lively conversation with David Mamet, the episode broadens its lens to examine anti-Semitism’s resurgence and the technological advances shaping our world. Mamet, with his profound grasp on both the arts and politics, provides an articulate and sometimes startling commentary on the state of modern ideologies, conservatism, and the need for a balanced understanding of both justice and mercy.
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The Navy is mulling over new names for ships that replace stupid names for ships named after people with no association to the Navy. So the Navy is going to rename the Harvey Milk ship. And here’s how Lefty cites, right? Hegseth orders the Navy to strip. He’s not, they’re renaming it. It is the, it was the office of the Secretary of the Navy, the official who holds the power to name the ships, showed that they had come up with rollout plans. They’re renaming the oiler ship, the USNS Harvey Milk ship. And you guys, you guys know Harvey Milk. He was basically basically he’s a pedophile. He dated a 16 year old boy. Harvey Milk also praised the Reverend Jim Jones. And in fact, in 1978, he wrote a letter to Jim Acotta where he was defending Jones and he was opposing Jim. This custody fight between this guy and his wife, Timothy Stone, he was trying to get his six-year-old son, John, who apparently was living there in Jonestown. And Harvey Milk wrote a letter to Jimmy Carter opposing that custody effort. He wanted to keep John at Jonestown. And John was amongst the 900 or so people who were killed in murder-suicide there a year later. And this is what Harvey Milk wrote at the time, quote, Reverend Jones is widely known in the minority communities here and elsewhere as a man of the highest character. And he’s undertaken constructive remedies for social problems, which have been amazing in their scope and effectiveness. He’s also highly regarded amongst the church, labor and civil civic leaders of a wide range of political persuasions. So he says that Timothy and Grace Stone, they’re attempting to damage the reverend’s reputation. So anyway, just to let you know. Yeah, Harvey Milk, he’s got issues. I mean, he had issues. The 16-year-old was just amongst them. He preyed on Jack McKinley when Milk was 33 and McKinley was 16. I mean, there’s a lot there. Nobody had any business naming a ship after this twink. Nobody did. And so they’re stripping him. They’re stripping the ship of that name, thankfully. Golly, I’m shocked that the ship didn’t sink or something like that. How is that not bad luck? So that was good news to hear that. They said that they confirmed it was making preparations, that it was brought on by Hegseth, and that the timing of the announcement during Pride Month was intentional. Good. And? And they’re also going to target other ships. Why are you naming ships after people that had nothing to do with the military? Or, like, ships, right? It doesn’t make any sense. So they had like the USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Seriously? Come on. I don’t know. So they they’re renaming them. Maybe we can have like some, you know, better names than some of these. I don’t get it. But I just why were we doing that in the first place? What was the point of that? The left is so performative. Yes, as Kane said, yes, the left wants to tear down all the statues. Well, this is just, you know, we’re returning the favor. That’s all we’re doing. We’re returning the favor and restoring some dignity to these vessels. So that was that’s a good to see. I mean, yes, I know we could, you know, maybe I’d like to see the Pentagon, the DOD spend taxpayer dollars better. But, you know, we’ll see how it goes. Caltech’s Gen 3 Sub 2K, which they rolled out with just just a month ago. And it’s another game changer from Kel-Tec, which always makes really cool stuff. Incredibly neat stuff. Great quality. I mean, it’s American parts, American labor, and everything is made right here in the U.S. of A. And it is the Sub-2K. This is the one that folds in half. which is awesome because it’s like gun origami. You can just take it and fold it in half. It’s awesome. Folding available in all these different calibers. Now even more versatile with the 10-millimeter chambering. Single twist and fold motion to that rotating forend. 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And it’s one of, I think, the best lessons that I learned from a very dear friend of mine, who is my one-time boss, the late Andrew Breitbart, who introduced me to the work, not the film work, but like the the political thought work of my next guest. And I mean, just like a brand new world opened up. David Mamet doesn’t really need an introduction. I mean, he is an American icon. And it’s crazy because I’ve it’s very weird to actually talk to somebody who has such a great body of work and who I think redefined how movies talk And was such is such a great writer of dialogue and character development. And I mean, the scene, the Chicago way scene from The Untouchables is, I think, one of the standout scenes that really got me into that genre. And I’ve read almost everything that he’s done. I think I’ve seen everything that he’s done. And he’s just a living legend. And he’s also like minded. which is very weird. It’s like finding a two-headed calf. He’s like-minded. That doesn’t happen very often. David Mamet now joins us via video. He’s got a new book out, The Disenlightenment, Politics, Horror, and Entertainment, and also a new film that he did with Shia LaBeouf, Henry Johnson, which you can find on the website, henryjohnsonmovie.com, and he joins us now. David, it’s such a pleasure to have you. I’ve always wanted to talk with you Thanks so much for giving us some of your time. Congrats on the new film. Congrats on the book. And thank you for setting all of these knuckleheads straight about everything. I’ve watched a number of your interviews. And I mean, I’ve been hearing about it, too, from other from other viewers and members of our audience who are watching you. And they’re like, he gets it. And people feel so encouraged that someone who does what you do understands their perspective. So thank you.
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Thank you so much. You know, I was thinking about you today, and I know you like beats, right? Yes, you know I do. Okay. And I wanted to say that what’s missing when we say the Judeo-Christian civilization is no longer applicable, what’s missing is shame. So you see a lot of things, people on the left, they’re free to lie because they have no shame. And they have no shame before each other. They have no shame before God because they aren’t grateful. So I wanted to tell you that the greatest aid to gratitude is beats. Do you know why? Why? Why? Okay, I love beets. I know you love beets. You so love super beets. So I was thinking, you know, you eat beets. I love them. Yum, yum, yum. You get up the next morning and you look, you’re peeing. And oh my God, you see my urine is red. I’m pissing blood. So the first thing you think is, oh my God, so soon, so soon. Well, I guess that’s the thing. Then you think, who’s going to get my pocket knife collection? Right. And then you think, I hope my wife doesn’t marry a lawyer if she does. Well, shame on her. And then you remember that you ate beets and you say, my God, thank you. I’m not actually dying today. I have another day. It’s a gift. So I wanted to thank you for promoting the religiosity of the Gratitude of Beats.
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It is my pleasure. And I think it’s more pleasurable than asparagus. So you’re welcome. You’re welcome on that. I wanted to, I wanted to ask you because you’ve, I think that you get the, I mean, obviously, cause you know, you’re a man. I mean, I, you get the psyche of men and you, you get the psyche of male characters. And I think you better than anyone can kind of really see into that. And I bring this up because as you know, and you’ve talked about this a little bit, uh, Democrats are, you know, fellow Americans on the other side of the aisle. They actually spent 20 something million dollars to study men to try to figure out where they went wrong with men this last election. They’re trying to understand what the disconnect is. What do you think the disconnect is with the left? I don’t think they need to spend that on it.
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Well, you know, Schiller, not the philosopher, my oculist, he said, with stupidity, even the gods struggle in vain. That’s the one thing I know that Schiller said. It’s so true. If someone, you know, there’s two phrases that everyone’s using on the left now, double down and die on this hill. It’s all about doubling down. So if you’re stupid, if you’ve done something stupid, as I certainly have, I try to do it, you know, As little as possible, when I do it again every day, wisdom comes from being able to step back and say, you know what, that was stupid. The problem with the left is that they’ve plucked themselves into a corner. Because if they say of any of these absurd, blasphemous, horrendous, savage ideas that they’ve doubled down on, Their life is over, as far as they know it, because they’re going to lose their spouse, they’re going to lose their kids in their head, they’re going to lose their job, they’re going to lose their community. So they have to keep doubling down. And that’s why, for example, as it becomes clearer and clearer that climate change is a hoax, they’ve doubled down on anti-Semitism. Because rather than saying, wait a second, let’s stop, right, let’s go down to the kitchen table and see what’s actually happening, they have to reinforce their… their stupidity to make sure they’re all on the same page, because that’s what happens in a totalitarian regime.
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Yes, yes, that’s true. That’s absolutely true. The phrase toxic masculinity, I think, had contributed a lot to that. This idea that men couldn’t be men anymore and that men, especially like some of the characters that you’ve written, that those men are somehow anachronistic with our times today, that they’re out of vogue, that these men don’t, there’s no place in society for manly men anymore. But I don’t see that. I don’t, I, I don’t see that. And I feel like that’s… Do you think that the pendulum is swinging the other way? Because it seems like for so long, men have been under attack. They’ve been, I think, discredited, disenfranchised, however you want to put it. And now I feel like Democrats and the left, they sort of realize that they have played the wrong hand. Are we… Is that pendulum going to swing back? Are we going to have like a reset where things feel a little bit more… I don’t know the best way to say it. Normal? You do. Normal? Correct? How do you view that? Are we going to get back to the way that it was? Like the 80s and the 90s when things seemed saner?
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Well, they were saner. We’re in the midst of a huge… cultural upheaval, and I think that it’s largely formed, it’s caused by a huge shift in technology. Just as the culture started to fall apart in the late 18th and early 19th century because of the Industrial Revolution, everything changed. So things have changed yet again now because of the computer revolution. Everything has changed. So rather than saying, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, what’s changed? What can I do about it? Which Elon is saying, Trump is saying, the Republicans are saying, people are saying, no, no, no, no, no, no. Something is terribly wrong, but it’s not that the culture has changed. It’s very difficult to look at that. It’s saying, you know what it is? Men are toxically masculine. People are born into the wrong sex. jews are the devil and the earth is burning and p.s any man who wants to compete in women’s sports so it’s it’s chicken little whoever’s screaming the loudest because who is capable of stepping back and understanding the time in which he or she lives the answer is nobody and that’s why we have laws yeah right because if not we’re going to resort to our feelings and our feeling absent laws and absent the idea that we can rely on the government is panic. Look, for the first time in many years, I’m not walking around, and a lot of people aren’t walking around saying, oh my God, if I say the wrong thing, someone’s going to throw me in jail. So for the first time, certainly in the last four years, I and everybody on the right is saying, I believe in government, which is not to say so much that I believe in Trump, although it may, but saying I believe in law, and I believe that the law is going to exist to protect the citizen.
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Well, that’s the nature of a republic, right? Everyone’s equal before the law and underneath the law when they when they violate it. I mean, we’re not it’s not a rejection of government so much as it’s an embrace embracing fair and equally apportioned government, I guess, for the lack of a better way to say it. that makes sense. I know that you’re a fan of POTUS and you identify basically as, I think, a conservative is what I read, which you like to conserve the individual, which I think is the best way to put it. That’s how I’ve always viewed it. How do you view conservatism in modern times now? I mean, it feels like it’s the common sense place to be. It’s like not the common sense party, but it’s like the common sense ideology. And it seems like people who have never really maybe identified as that before, maybe they were classical liberals, maybe they thought they were kind of more moderate progressives. Now they now they think this is so much common sense due to so much of what you said. So now they are they’re embracing the word conservative, conservative, conserving common sense, conserving individualism.
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Yeah, I think so. You know, it says in the Talmud, where there is no bread, there is no law, and where there is no law, there is no bread. So the question of conservatism, constitutional conservatives, is not what is the right thing to do. Because a lot of times we don’t look good because we all have passions, right? We want to belong. We want to feel good about ourselves. And so this idea of classical liberalism, what is the right thing to do? The idea of social justice, which has to mean injustice, right? Because it’s based on a feeling. The correct question is not what is the right thing to do, but the correct question is what is the law? Now, can the law be wrong? Sure. We have a law which enables us to change that. Additionally, that against my people the Jews say, the prophet Micah says, Micah says, what are you supposed to do? Do justice. Love mercy. And be humble before God. So that’s the correct answer to me. And as conservatism, absolutely do justice. But you’ve got to love mercy, too. Right. But they’re two different verbs, aren’t they?
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Yes. Yeah, exactly. And they’re not entirely mutually exclusive either, I think. We’re talking to David. Not at all. Yeah, exactly. Talking to David Mamet, legendary screenwriter, author. He’s got a new film out as well. Henry Johnson with Shia LaBeouf. And you can see it at Henry Johnson movie dot com. You mentioned to anti-Semitism. This is this is an insane thing here. It’s twenty twenty five. And I honestly I hear from my kids. I have a son in college and he says that he’s noticed an increase in anti-Semitism with his generation. That talk to me a little bit about that, because, again, it’s 2025. I don’t know if we’re just so far removed from the greatest generation that we’re like forgetting the horror. I’m just trying to wrap my mind around why this is like we had a guy who tried to set people on fire in Boulder. And then there was I mean, there’s like been at least like three, I think, attacks. There was a couple that was shot at in D.C. What are your thoughts on this? And why how are we in this? How is this happening in 2025?
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What’s happening for a bunch of reasons. One is that my people, the Jews, have not had a state for 2,000 years. We’ve been at the best guests and at the worst slaves and always at the mercy of whatever country we were living in because we were never actually citizens. So we got into the habit of keeping our head down and saying, I can put up with it, I can put up with it. Eventually they’re going to kill some of us, blah, blah, blah. Finally, the state of Israel comes along with some people said, you know, that’s enough, we have to have our own state. As Theodor Herzl said, when he was looking at Dreyfus, who was being maligned as a traitor in France in 1895, he was a Jewish officer, and Herzl was a very famous and successful Austrian playwright and assimilated Jew, and he went to see Dreyfus being disgraced for a false accusation of treason, but the people weren’t yelling death to the traitor, they were yelling death to the Jews. Herzl sat down, he said, oh, my God, they’re going to kill us all. We need our own country, right? And by the grace of God, 50 years later, we have our own country. But a lot of the world still doesn’t. Listen, it’s the go-to thing. It’s a guy loses his job, he comes home, he beats his wife, okay? She says, if you do that again, I’m going to leave. He comes back again. He beats her again. She goes to the cops. The cops say, wait a second, be a good wife. This doesn’t happen anymore. But that’s a traditional unfortunate outbreak of people who are defenseless. So. To say of the Jews, what are you doing? To bring it about, it’s the same thing as saying of the wife, well, what was the expression on your face when your husband came home? Now, the reason anti-Semitism is breaking out, again, is for two reasons. One is that the society is reinventing itself because of this The computers upended everything. How we date, whom we marry, how we work, how we talk to each other, what we see, where we get our news. It upsets everything. So people are upset. So what are they going to do? Just like the guy who comes home when he kicks his wife, he is going to go to the most proximate permitted victim. which is for 2,000 years been to Jews. There’s a second thing, and I think that we understand that when we look at Greta Thunberg, right? Here’s a little girl, God bless her, you know, she’s a professional truant. She says, the earth is burning, run for your life. The earth is burning, run for your life. Okay, give her the Nobel Peace Prize, you know, and pat her on the back and put her on the cover of Time magazine. Now, it turns out that the left gets tired of this fiction, right? And it turns out the Earth is not burning and the polar ice caps are increasing. So now what? What does Greta Thunberg do? She gets on a ship to go to Gaza. What in the hell does this little girl who’s never gone to school in her life, God bless her, all of a sudden, in addition to knowing about the earth is burning, she knows about what’s happening in Israel. She just ran out of steam, so she cross-decked herself. So that’s what’s happening. Those are the two things that lead to anti-Semitism. It’s a proximate victim, and the left is always moving from one horror victim to the next. It’s COVID. It’s the Y2K thing. It’s Islamophobia. It’s the earth is burning. And now it’s the Jews. Okay. What’s new?
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I mean, I think that’s it entirely. I wish that we had more time because I feel like it’s like drinking from a fire hose. And I love the points that you make. And I think that you’re such a great mind, especially And not just conservative ideology, but political ideology. The new book is The Disenlightenment. The Secret Knowledge was the first book of yours that I read. And then I went back out of order and read all your other ones. But Andrew Breitbart gave me that book. And that’s how I was introduced to all of your conservative thought, was that The Secret Knowledge. David Mamet. And the new film, Henry Johnson, with Shia LaBeouf. HenryJohnsonMovie.com. You can go get it, watch it right on the site. David, it’s such a pleasure. I would love to have you back. I’d love to talk with you for a longer period and do like a sit down. I think that you just have so much to say and I’m all here for it. So thank you so much for your time. You’ve been so generous today.
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So anytime at all. It’s a real pleasure talking to you.
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Thank you so much. Thanks so much. God bless David Mamet, everyone. And make sure you go see the new film, Henry Johnson and get the new book, which is fabulous. By the way, we have more in store as we wrap up this second hour. Stick with us. Third hour on the way. Gold Coat Precious Metals. This is a great hedge in uncertain times. I mean, this is like one of I love the gold standard all about gold and silver. And you can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today. Qualify and get unlimited bonus silver from gold code that’s real silver and it’s instantly matched to your account tax and penalty free. Gold and silver, as you know, have stood the test of time. And these are hard assets that offer real security. Get educated before you invest, though. They tell you everything that you need to know. It breaks down how precious metals fit into your financial strategy. And again, you can unlock that exclusive bonus silver. If you qualify, GoldCo will match your investment with unlimited bonus silver. And I love no taxes or penalties. It’s so great. Visit DanaLikesGold.com. Join thousands of people who have called GoldCo the number one rated gold company. And you can get that free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. It’s DanaLikesGold.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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So apparently it’s a killdozer day. Did you know that? Happy Killdozer Day. If you’re unfamiliar with Killdozer Day, uh, Killdozer, this was, uh, a guy who was a repair shop owner. He, uh, had a modified bulldozer in Granbury, Colorado. This is in June 2004. And, uh, Marvin Hemare. And, uh, he was, uh, he didn’t hurt. He, he, uh… Didn’t hurt anybody during his rage except for himself, unfortunately. But he was upset because he was a disgruntled resident because of a zoning dispute. And so he destroyed his store and went on a rampage. He had this bulldozer completely kitted out. There’s no way you could get into it. This thing was reinforced six ways to Sunday. But he was known for the killdozer rampage. It was falling down come to life. Yeah. It literally was. I mean, it absolutely was. Let’s see. Also, I thought that was a very important to share because I almost it was June 4th. So Kildore’s the day is the date. Unfortunately, his rampage ended and he he committed suicide, which is sad. But let’s see here. A couple of other things while I wait for all of this to reload because it’s so ridiculously slow. Yeah, I know. It’s Safari. What are you going to do? I can’t. U.S. is apparently going to offer Iran a nuclear deal, allowing temporary uranium enrichment. We’ll follow up with more about that. And Emmanuel Macron wax work was stolen from a Paris museum by Greenpeace activists. I don’t know what they’re going to do with it, but I’m all for waiting to find out. They stole. It’s going to melt like if it’s warm over there. The thing is going to don’t you have to keep those things in like a temperature controlled room? Scientists were stunned as heat caught on camera bounced like sun. It was the first time apparently that it was ever captured. And they said that researchers at MIT used a new mapping technique to observe heat moving as a wave and bouncing back and forth. It’s a wave-like manner and a phenomenon that they call second sound. And it’s the first time that they were able to actually capture it. Walt Disney is going to live again as a robot. His granddaughter said he never wanted this. It’s the saddest headline ever. They’re going to try to make him a robot and his granddaughter says it’s freaky. And she said that she had no it. He does not want this. He was just grandpa and he does not want something like this. I would agree, actually. Oh, wait, I’m going to go all the way back here. Texas woman dies from brain eating amoeba after using tainted RV water. I am really weird about water sources. Really weird. And she was using nasal. This is why you only use distilled water if you’re going to do this stuff. She used RV water that was tainted where she was, I guess, doing like a nutty pot. And, yeah, she had neurological symptoms days after. And it was branding an amoeba and it killed her. It’s horrible. These Chinese nationals that were charged with smuggling agro-terrorism animals. agent into the U.S. They said it was a direct threat. They were studying at the University of Michigan labs. The FBI director, Kash Patel, said that these two nationals, they were charged with smuggling a dangerous biological pathogen. They wanted to study it at the University of Michigan, KMC. And I mean, obviously, that’s a serious threat. They said that the CCP is continuing to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate institutions and target food supply. And then, I mean, it really could. I mean, that’s there’s a reason why customs is so crazy about, you know, food and animals and seeds and stuff. It was a fungus called Fusarium. Grammarium? I don’t know. It’s basically what’s defined as a potential agro-terrorism weapon. And they said it causes head blight, a disease of weed, barley, maize, and rice, and is responsible for billions of dollars in economic losses worldwide each year. And the toxins also cause vomiting, liver damage, and reproductive defects in humans and livestock. And the criminal in the criminal complaint, one of the researchers, 33 years old, received Chinese government funding for her work on the pathogen in China and that they describe her membership. You have to be in good standing in the CCP to be able to go back and forth like that. The other individual lied about smuggling it in. He brought it into the Detroit Metropolitan Airport, you know, because if you were all up on the above, you know, in the up and up and you were going to bring in something like this and study it. Yeah, you definitely smuggle it in and try to avoid border border protection and customs. That’s exactly what you do. You know, if you’re on the up and up, that’s the first thing you’re going to do is sneak it into the country. Right. It’s asinine. Nobody believes that. So, yeah, I think I think they should be put to death. You’re you’re I mean, you committed an egregious violation of U.S. law. I think that we coddle these. I think we coddle these people. This is, again, another example of the CCP presenting a grave national security concern to the United States. I mean, tell me I’m wrong. I think death penalty for these to send their remains to China. I mean, why not? So dumb with this. How long has China been doing this? Can you imagine if something like that were to get? Yeah, they brought it in to study it. That’s why they snuck it through and lied about sneaking it in and took great precautions to conceal it from Customs and Border Patrol. Yeah, that’s right. I mean, it’s a very harmful biological material. And so they obviously are detained, and I guess we’ll wait and see. I think they announced these charges yesterday. What did you say? We wonder why our bread is horrible here?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s not only the stuff that they spray on for pesticides and things like that, but how do we know this hasn’t happened before? How do we know that none of this stuff is already in the country, already affecting our food supply? How do we know that?
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Well, they discovered, so in 2024 of last year, One of them was turned away at the Detroit airport and sent back to China because he kept changing his story when he was being interrogated about red plant material that they found in his backpack. And he was lying about it. And he apparently was exchanging some pretty damaging messages with the partner there on his phone. But they said they found a scientific article on his phone titled Plant Pathogen Warfare Under Changing Climate Conditions. And they both, neither of them could keep their story straight. And the other thing, too, is if you’re going to claim that you are going to study a tightly controlled pathogen that’s monitored by USDA and Homeland Defense and all this stuff because of the damage that it could do to crops, livestock, and humans, that you would lie about and claim that you are going to study it at a university that has the federal permit to handle it. Because apparently, in order to handle this type of pathogen, to study it, you have to have a specific, actually several specific federal permits to handle it. And apparently the University of Michigan does not. So not only did they hide it, but then they lied and said that they were going to go and study it at a university that doesn’t have the heart, the actual physical capability to contain it and nor the permits granted to it to actually handle it. So, yeah, they’re terrorists. This was an act, a hostile act by the CCP. They should be put to death. I mean, and immediately… And they were described as two aliens presenting the gravest national security concern, according to charging docs. But yeah, we don’t have an extradition extradition treaty with China. So I think one of them did. There was another one apparently that did get away, but he’s not going to get arrested unless he comes back to the United States. So that’s probably never going to happen. But yeah, it makes all the sense in the world. They’re really bad spies. Think about this for all the talk about the CCP being, you know, so, you know, I guess suave and so good at spying. This is really bad. This is like some JV stuff. Like you can’t even you can’t keep your story straight under interrogation. And then you can’t even provide yourself with a good enough cover story and select a university that actually has the capability and the permittance to handle this stuff. I mean, that’s just like their spies suck. How are we getting duped by China? I mean, they sent a giant goofy balloon over here and we’re like, oh, really? Like, how are we getting duped by them? I mean, it’s like a third. It’s a third world nation. It is. Stop looking at the photos of the propaganda. Come on. This is I don’t know. Am I? I’m just shocked that anyone was even remotely fooled. And the fact that they had them in like little baggies in their backpack. I don’t know how this pathogen is set to be contained, but Kane, baggies are not, you know, the gold standard for sealing off things.
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No, no. Pathogens or anything. Yeah, you don’t want to just put it in a Ziploc.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, that’s what they did. Not even kidding. Not even. I mean, I think they were in like, I was looking at the photos, like a Ziploc, maybe in a Ziploc.
SPEAKER 04 :
They… You mean like an old school sandwich bag they used?
SPEAKER 01 :
Let me share. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like legit, like a snack bag or something. It looks like a little snack bag. Oh, yeah. Those are the little baggies. They had little bitty baggies. And they had those in their backpacks. Like, how is that not all over you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Dude, that’s not… Nothing’s contained in that.
SPEAKER 01 :
No. Walking through the airports with that in their backpacks, you know, derp derp, just another day. Another day in China, my gosh. Well, no wonder they eat bats. Just saying. The woo-flu.
SPEAKER 02 :
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