In this episode, we delve into a controversial CBS town hall meeting that left many conservatives feeling targeted. The conversation explores the aftermath of the event and how it reflects on the broader societal clashes, particularly the silencing of diverse opinions on major platforms. We also touch on a tragic incident at Brown University that has raised questions about safety and political expression on college campuses.
At a CBS town hall, and the smart kids are livid. They can’t believe that another point of view would allow to be platformed on CBS on a Saturday night, by the way. The graveyard shift. It wasn’t primetime. It wasn’t Monday through Friday. It was a Saturday night. Oh, we’re going to put pressure on the advertisers and people at CBS are reportedly furious and saying it was a crap show. What? It was a fantastic evening with a young grieving woman who is a prominent, prominent voice in America. But, Mark, let’s just go to the natural extension of all this. They do want us killed. They want us silenced. You mentioned Brown University. You did see that one of the few conservatives on the Brown campus was one of the victims, 19-year-old president of the Young Republicans, young, beautiful female who was killed, and there’s speculation that she was targeted the way Charlie Kirk was targeted. How do we know, by the way, because those inept officials at Brown still haven’t – they don’t have a suspect. A thousand cameras, Mark. They got a thousand cameras. They had a person of interest. Well, they let him go. Isn’t that funny? They don’t know who did it. But they do know that one of the few Republican voices on that campus was slaughtered at Brown University. Meanwhile, go to Bondi Beach in Australia. Mark, this just astounds me. Apparently a father and son, they had a bunch of legally purchased guns. I thought you weren’t allowed to have guns in Australia. Oh, but it was the bolt action kind. And the guy was up there, and did you see the video of him using that bolt action long gun?
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Sure, for a long time.
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He knew what he was doing.
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Got off a lot of shots, too.
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And the cops evidently, reportedly were cowering. They didn’t know what to do. They didn’t take him out until, what, 30 minutes after they had killed 15 other people.
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And Lord knows there’s no armed citizenry nearby to do anything about it.
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And Mark, this is what globalizing the Intifada means. The Intifada came to Bondi Beach in Australia. And when I saw Zoran Mamdani’s statement of sympathy, I thought, wait a minute, buddy. This is what you meant, wasn’t it, by globalizing the Intifada? Don’t play games now. You know, anti-Semitic, this is something that we’ve got to deal with here. And that leads us to the powwow today between Candace Owens.
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Back up 30 seconds before we finish it. Australia, because you’re totally right, because I owe to be a fly on the wall in that room as Candace Owens and Erica Kirk will apparently get together. I have deep concerns. But so the story in the video, one of the most compelling things about the Australia attack is how it ended or close to when it ended. When a guy, when a heroic man confronts the gunman, comes up at an angle, right? grabs him and disarms him, takes the long gun away from him and points it at him and doesn’t shoot and kill him, creating the instant question that I’ve asked kind of rhetorically. Who among us could have? Maybe you’d like to think you would have. You’ve disarmed him, so maybe you feel like you’ve defused the situation. Guy ran away and the cops ultimately got him. Now, how much do you and I love our buddy Kurt Schlichter?
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Kurt Schlichter posted that it was shameful of him to do that.
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It was shameful for him not to kill him. Not to kill him.
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I screamed at my computer screen, yeah, but you’re an Army colonel. It’s a little bit different, Colonel Kurt. You served ably and admirably. You would know what to do. On the other hand, let’s take it a step further. So he takes the gun, he disarms him, and that video is wild. It’s so… I mean, look, all the video is wild. A lot of people got their phones out and took video as it was happening. Do you know what they would have done to him if he would have shot an unarmed man to death? They’d have charged him.
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They would have, Mark. He knows what country he’s in. He knows the culture that he’s in, the country that he begun hating.
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I’m not sure that wouldn’t happen in America.
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I mean, he was unarmed. He disarmed him.
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I mean, you look at our laws.
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We should have called in a mental health professional to defuse the situation.
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But look at our gun laws and all that. The whole bit about the right to retreat or you have the right to defend yourself. He wouldn’t have been defending himself. Now, I guess you could have made an argument in a greater good that…
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He was preventing future. This guy was clearly a terrorist. And the tragic part is he went back up on the bridge and started firing some more. He may have killed some more people when that guy had. But look, and then there was debate about whether he was a Christian or a Muslim. Apparently, the guy is actually a Christian who disarmed the terrorists. First, he was reported to be a Muslim. And not that it matters.
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But we instantly presume the Arab-sounding names. Oh, instant Muslim. Yeah, not so much. And I don’t care. I mean, heroism is heroism. That’s right. I guess it’s good for the PR if we get a Muslim hero alongside an Islamist.
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I reposted something that actress Patty Heaton posted yesterday. Of course, everybody loves Raymond Fame, and she’s a big conservative.
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One of the rare conservatives in Hollywood.
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And she reposted a young Arab woman saying, look, as a Muslim, I condemn this. This is horrific. And Patricia Heaton wrote more of this, please. Exactly. But, well, yeah, you say exactly. She got a lot of pushback on that, saying, nope, nope, sorry. Islam is incompatible with Western culture.
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Okay. And, by the way, those are points you can make. It doesn’t embrace free speech. It certainly doesn’t embrace equality for women. It certainly doesn’t embrace, you know, keeping religion and government sort of in their lanes, so to speak. No separation. Fine. But if a Muslim person steps forward to say, look, I am a Muslim and this was terrible, can we please – accept some human decency from people and not make everything a talk show. Pardon me.
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I know, but people don’t want to. People don’t want to. But let me ask you that question. So I think you sort of answered it. And the reason I’m bringing it up is that was a quote from Charlie Kirk shortly before he was killed. He posted, Islam is incompatible with Western culture. So you agree with that?
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I do. There are tenets of Islam practiced around the world which are completely incompatible with the constitutional republic. So American Muslims, of which there are many, living here and not wanting to kill anybody, need to shelve or subjugate the portions of their actual faith that calls for the government where they live to be spread in the dissemination of their faith. I guess I’m… Everybody can lead their lives. They can lead their lives in their faith however they wish. Some of the grand policy stuff.
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I’m uncomfortable with that statement. I’m uncomfortable with saying Islam is incompatible because it does then sort of put a scrutiny on every single Muslim.
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Maybe you shouldn’t be here then is the kind of the natural destination, which I do not say because we have religious freedom in America.
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I keep thinking about a little place. I’m not going to mention the name, and I hope you won’t either, but I used to go. Denise and I would eat in Southlake all the time on a regular basis owned by a Muslim family, and they were wonderful and beautiful people and actually pretty conservative. And so I think about them. You know, it’s important to establish those kinds of relationships in your life. Of course. Because then when somebody comes along and says, well, Islam is incompatible. We’ve got to kick out all the Muslims for the United States. Then I think about my friends in Southlake and remember, no, no, that’s a blanket statement. Back to Rob Reiner for a moment. We found in the archives – I interviewed him years ago. Now, figure that out. And because he because I brought it up, I said, look, you’re a well-known Democrat activist. You’re a lefty and I’m a conservative. And Mark, he was so charming and so gracious and so fun and playful. This is another thing. It kind of kind of ties into what we’re talking about with Muslims. Not everybody who disagrees with us politically needs to be banished. You know, I mean, we can disagree with people.
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Don’t banish anybody. Now, in fairness, it was before it was before it was before Trump, before Trump broke up 60 seconds. Candace Owens, amid her mental breakdown, has been savaging Erica Kirk, savaging Charlie, savaging Turning Point USA. It gets worse every day. And now we learn that rather than just going at each other from TV and social media, that Candace Owens and Erica Kirk will apparently have a private sit-down meeting today. Part of me is thrilled that maybe this might bring some healing, but part of me thinks Candace is trolling her. Has she had some epiphany? What do you think happens in that room, and is it a good thing or a bad thing?
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Don’t forget, these are young people who all know each other. Candace was absolutely well-known. She was part of the Turning Point. She and Charlie were one of the original founders of Turning Point. Of course. And so she knew Erica well, I think. Yep. Look, there’s nothing bad of it. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. Good for them. I’m glad they’re sitting down. I don’t completely understand if Candace is going to back off.
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I don’t trust her. I don’t trust her as far as I could. I do not trust her. She is a broken, twisted woman. If this is evidence that she has had an epiphany and is now going to act better, then great. I will celebrate that. But going in, I would tell Erica, keep your guard up. Keep your guard up.
