Join host Reggie Rocco on 560 KLZ for an engaging conversation with the dynamic Julissa Soto, a dedicated activist and the founder of multiple organizations aimed at advancing immigrant health and equity. Explored in this episode is Julissa’s journey from Michoacán, Mexico, to the United States, detailing her crossing the border and eventual transition from undocumented status to holding dual citizenship. This personal narrative lays bare the complexities and challenges of immigration while highlighting the resilience and determination needed to navigate the system.
SPEAKER 06 :
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Yeah. KLZ. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what about now? We want everybody. I mean, everybody. Stand up. Stand up. Hold your hands up high. This is about America, baby. We bring people together. I’m a United.
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flag of the united states of america and to the republic from which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all what’s up what’s up what’s up lukey luke
SPEAKER 06 :
What’s going on, Reg? How are you? Of course, good, good, man. You guys, you know I’m a United. You know how we do it all the time, man. We have a special guest in the studio. Now, Luke, you know I’ve had various guests on here. We’ve had… Republicans, independents, Democrats, we’ve had gay, straight, you name it. We’ve had everybody on this show, right? We’ve had legals. We’ve had illegals. One time, you remember when I brought my friend from Cuba, and we had to get a translator because all she could speak was Spanish. I didn’t know what she was talking about. But we’re great friends, and we communicate through Google Translate. But, yes, I have this very beautiful lady right here to my left. Why don’t you introduce yourself to the world? Tell people your name, what you do, and why you’re here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, my name is – good morning, everyone, first of all. My name is Julissa Soto. I am the Suicide Prevention Commissioner. I am the founder and CEO of Casa Inmigrante, Julissa Soto Latino Health Equity Consulting, Sotos Corporation, Immigrant Health Access Collaborative. I wear many hats, so I have many, many titles. I will be here all day telling people my titles, and I’m an activist by heart overall.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so yeah, I checked you out and you’re a very, very busy woman. Are you originally from Colorado or did you move here or what got you started in what you’re doing?
SPEAKER 04 :
No. I was born and raised in Michoacán, Mexico, which is south, way south, close to Acapulco. And I came to the United States 30 years ago. And when I arrived to the United States, I crossed the border in the trunk of a car. So I crossed the border from Tijuana, then California, and came to Colorado. And, you know, I came here undocumented. I don’t like the word illegal. Or maybe with not the proper documentation. Because when people are like, are you illegal or undocumented? I say, I just don’t have the proper documentation that the white folks require from me. That’s how I explain it. So I came to the United States. And my ex-husband brought me here. I didn’t want to come. I wanted to stay in Mexico, right, because that’s my country. And I was very happy there, but he brought me here. And when he brought me here, he continued treating me like he used to treat me in Mexico, which he was beating me up like two or three times a week. We came to the United States, and in here, a white person told me, that’s a no-no. You always have bruises in your face, and that’s domestic violence. And I spoke very little English back then. So I was like, please do not call the police. Let him beat me up because I’m undocumented, uneducated. I don’t speak a word in English. And if you call the police, they might deport him. And what am I going to do with two kids? Well, and she was my neighbor in the apartment buildings where we lived. So when one time he was beating me up for a long, long time. So she called the police. And when the police arrived, he already broke my arms and my legs and had to go to the ICU unit. And the rest is history. And I just say my kids are in the closet. And I always used to hide my kids in the closet. And that was my life. That was.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow, that’s a rough, rough life. So what made you choose America? And then we’re going to talk about, in reference to what you’re saying, like how you got here, how you came here, and the dialogue that you like to, you know, be… Talk about who and what you like. And also your words. I want to make sure that you explain to my audience and everything. Because that right there is a horrific story. That is serious right there. But you came here in the trunk of a car. So you crossed the border illegally, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I crossed the border illegally. I was many, many hours in that trunk.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so, and that has to be rough. Okay, so you get here and you want to become legal, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, when I came here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which you call documented.
SPEAKER 04 :
Documented, right? So, when I came here, I wanted to be a U.S. citizen like I am now. Now I have dual citizenship. I am Mexican and I’m American. So, yeah. When I arrived here, just to become legal, you know, when people say, like, why they don’t get documentations? Why they don’t learn how to speak English? Because it’s not easy. And because, you know, just to get your papers, I spent like around $30,000. Not everybody can afford a lawyer, you know, and somebody that can help you out. So it’s not as easy as people think. But, yeah, I came here to the land of a dream, which… I don’t see nothing of a dream now. These days, I see it like a nightmare.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. I’m glad you mentioned that. Now that we’re having this dialogue and you’re putting this out here, and I can understand what you went. First of all, I have Puerto Rican and I think it’s Venezuelan or it might be Cuban. Don’t get me wrong. But in my family. Okay. So there’s both sides of the fence that we need to definitely get out. And I have a whole bunch of Mexican friends. I mean, literally, my favorite food is Mexican food.
SPEAKER 04 :
You sound now like the white folks that say, I have a black friend.
SPEAKER 06 :
But it’s true.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s true.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s 100% true. Every culture you can imagine, not every culture, but being with my background, I travel, I have all kinds of friends that are different ethnicities, and they tell me different things, and I learn different things. This has been all my life. This is why I even go and do what I do, is because I know a lot of stuff from the street level, And the classroom level. Okay. And so my question to you, okay, you’re saying that things aren’t going right now. It’s like a nightmare right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. We’re living the modern slavery. We are the new blacks.
SPEAKER 06 :
You think you’re the new blacks.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m the new black. Okay, explain yourself. I’m the new black. They’re hunting us. You know, ICE is hunting us. Even they’re taking the ones that are legal in this country, right? We live in a slavery time where, you know… A lot of people talk about the undocumented community, but why you don’t go after the big corporations that they’re exploiting cheap labor? You know they’re exploiting us, but it’s easy to come after undocumented who don’t speak the language, and that’s just not fair. And I know that politics and nothing is fair in this life, but, you know, when I see the people in power, I’m like, you must not be in power because you’re coming after somebody. They can fight back, right? Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so let’s take this step by step. Because I definitely really want to hear what you’ve got to say. Any other country you go to… You have to be legally invited. You can’t just storm the borders and come across here. That’s a problem. So that’s in any country. You can’t go to Russia like that. You can’t go to China. You know what I’m saying? I couldn’t go out to St. Martins. I couldn’t go to Virgin Islands. I couldn’t do none of the places that I’ve been. You had to have the proper documentation to get here or you couldn’t. Get in. Would you not agree with that? I have five people who have that’s Russian and they can’t they can’t get into other places.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s not necessary. True, my friend. You have a lot of Russians in here that they’re not legal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I’m not saying – I’m saying everybody that’s illegal, what I say, needs to get their paperwork. They need to get up out of here. You can’t just come into any country or any environment illegally. Like, I have people in my family that are really upset, and that’s why I’m going to ask you. They’re the same race as you.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re the same race as you. Let’s be straight up, and you can ask me the questions. No hard feelings in here. As an activist, let’s do it. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
They tell me that they’re even upset at illegal immigration that comes here because they are, I guess they stand in line and they do it the proper way. And they got passed over because of the rush of all illegal immigrants coming here illegally. During the Biden era. What do you feel about that? What do you say to that? If one of your own people were sitting right here saying, nah, nah, we don’t agree with that. What would you tell them?
SPEAKER 04 :
So basically what happened with Biden, you know, he allowed the Venezuelans. to come to this country legally, right? In one month, they were already receiving all kind of benefits. You have the Mexicans, you have the Colombians, you have the Hondurians that we have been waiting in line for 20, 30 years without nobody. paying attention to us, and paying fees. Because what the government doesn’t tell you is that when we’re undocumented, they give us what you call an IT number. That number is like a Social Security number. But look how smart is the government. They tell us that with that number, we can only file taxes. But we can’t get any reimbursement, okay? We cannot get any money back, nothing, right? But we have to file taxes. So that IT number is to file taxes. And then, you know, the government don’t tell you guys. When people say that we’re not taxpayers, oh, hell, we are. Yeah, we are. And when we go to the store, we pay taxes like you. So we do pay taxes, right? So when they arrive here and they arrive in a demanding mode. You know, the Venezuelans, they are right, demanding and demanding. And here we are, humble, not demanding anything but freedom, but just documents so we can provide for our families. How do you think my community feels, right? And I’m not hating on the Venezuelans. No, but you’re telling the truth. It’s straight up the truth.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re telling the truth. And I say that about Venezuela. Again, I’m going to quit giving myself disclaimers because I’m always going to keep it real.
SPEAKER 04 :
Disclaimer, disclaimer.
SPEAKER 06 :
The Venezuelans come here with a whole different mentality. Yeah, they came here and we got a lot of bad Venezuelan people here. That is a fact. And so, are you saying that because of your nationality, your ethnicity, that ICE is just grabbing you And taking you, just assuming that you’re illegal. Is that what it is?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s what it is. And we have a caller on the phone already. They’re racial profiling. What are you talking about? The same way you are an American and you’re black. This is your country. And they still discriminate against you. Now imagine us. Let’s get the call.
SPEAKER 06 :
We got two calls.
SPEAKER 04 :
Two calls.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s get all the calls. Johnny, you there? And I see Casper’s on the line as well. Go ahead, Luke. Chime both of them in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. So, okay, my wife is not from this country. And in our country, there’s many nationalities, too. But because she’s from this particular country, they just put them all in the same boat. And so when we came, now, I am a blind guy on SSDI. So I don’t have $30,000. Okay. And so we paid the fees. She had to prove that she could support herself once she got here. She just couldn’t. And it took her about two months to find a job. And then that was in 2014. Now, it took from that time until 2017 for her to actually get her citizenship. And when they gave us the paperwork to study, it was in a lot of different languages. So they give you the CD, different languages. So if you say, I can’t speak English. And then at the interview, they said, if you want a interpreter, we’ll give you a interpreter. So, okay, maybe for you because you didn’t know, or maybe at that time, what, 30 years ago. I don’t know if they had CDs. Did they have CDs 30 years ago? But now I can’t see any excuse because they really opened up the door. And then we’ve been trying to get, like, her son here nine years. And my wife is upset because… Donald Trump, he throws down immigration for everybody. And I keep telling her, we have to sort this thing out because this idiot who was in office before just flooded in without vetting people. Now we’ve got people in our neighborhoods. Because when they’ve tried to send them all over to Mar-a-Lago, to Obama’s neighborhood, they kicked them out in 45 minutes. But they put all these people that are undocumented in our neighborhood. Oh, yeah, they’re definitely in our neighborhood. Yeah, we have to deal with them. But put them over in a risk person, put them in a Democrat neighborhood. They got their security. They got their gated community. They live behind walls. Right. We have to put up with them. So I feel you 30 years ago, but now there’s no excuse. And I’m not a rich man. And I got the job done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, hold on right there. Casper, are you there? I am. Time in. Welcome to the show, man. Go ahead. What do you think? This lady is very strong, very bright. We have a lot in common. You would not believe it, but it’s true. Tell me what’s on your mind, because you hear what’s on her mind, and we’re going to get deep into it. Because the only way we can solve and bring people together is to have a platform to speak. And everybody speak what they believe and all that, and then we’ll go from there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. She brings up a lot of great points. And the immigration laws are really jacked up and have been for a long, long time. And it’s both Republican and Democrats are keeping it that way intentionally, in my opinion. It’s just my opinion. They’re keeping it that way. They’re not wanting to solve the problem because legal immigration should be easier for It should not be an extortion for someone to legally immigrate into the U.S. And the numbers of legal immigration should be higher than what they are right now. Okay, so… Just allowing… Go ahead, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just allowing what?
SPEAKER 11 :
Just allowing people, though, to come across the border in any form. It doesn’t matter how they come across. Just allowing them to come across and then automatically start… Using the system or gaming the system, that is not cool. You can’t do that in Mexico. If an American goes to Mexico and says, you know what, I want to become a Mexican, they throw them in jail.
SPEAKER 04 :
And we don’t have those systems. And it’s Casper, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Gasper.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gasper.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gasper.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gasper. We don’t have those systems in Mexico. You are correct. We can’t do anything like that. But research and studies show that the biggest system utilizers are not blacks or Latinos. It’s the white folks. It’s the white folks that abuse the system. But, you know, the politics and everything around it has done such a good job with these fear media campaigns after the Latinos and after the undocumented. So they can fool all of us. And, you know, we don’t pay attention to what the white folks are doing. And I’m sorry for my white folks that they’re listening out there. I love you, some of you. Some I don’t. But, you know, I’m just speaking, Casper, from my heart, from my own experience. I’m a Latina and I can say this. It’s not that I am discriminating. But, you know, it’s… It is what it is, right? And I think all these campaigns that, you know, illegals are criminals, rapists, and all of that. And I’m like, no, dude, that’s what you guys do, the white folks. Where have you seen, you know, a Latino, an immigrant Latino, shooting schools?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, hey, we got to get back on this point. We’re going to go to break. You’re listening to 560 KLZ. I’m a uniter.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, this is Reggie Rocco. You’re listening to I May Unite. What’s up, Lukey Luke? And, you know, we got a very special guest here. She is very smart and very brave. And we got Johnny on the phone and we have Casper on the phone. And let’s get back into this because this is this is what we need. This is exactly what I talk about. So I have a question to everybody here. What is, and we’ll start with you. Perfect. What do you want to do in reference to the people who are here, like I say illegally, you say undocumented, whatever. It’s the same thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Same thing, but a little bit more cruel. It’s like saying the N word, you know? It ain’t that deep. It is deep.
SPEAKER 06 :
but it’s not deep for you but it’s deep for me so you’re saying somebody’s saying illegal if you’re if you’re not illegal that’s the same as the n-word yeah like when people call us illegal it’s like the same it hits a nerve if you’re just saying it hits it hits so what what is your what is your answer what’s your solution because you can’t come into the country illegally that is that’s a fact i pay taxes everybody here that’s american pays taxes And America supports a lot of the world with our taxpayer money. I don’t know why they let all those Venezuelans here, and I have an idea, but it’s just my opinion. But tell me, what do you do to get the undocumented or the illegal aliens out of the country? What is your solution for that?
SPEAKER 04 :
What is our solution to have an immigration reform? You know, like an amnesty, like we were doing it way back then, right? And it’s to our convenience to have the undocumented population to become legal, because then the country will make a boom, right? But when you are deporting the decent people, the people that are hardworking people, are you and I are going to do the jobs that they do? Construction at 5 in the morning, dishwasher. I don’t want to wash no dishes, so please keep the Mexicans here. You know, like, hell no. Like, you know, just keep the Mexicans here, please, or the Latinos, because I just don’t want to do the jobs that they do for nothing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Comment on that. Comment on that, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
I got to address the gangster thing because my wife, she has two sons. And because of the movies and all those things, all my black family and everything, they said, well, your sons must be gangsters. And I said, no, no, I met these guys. These are some good guys. And because of them not knowing there’s many different nationalities and where she’s from, i understand where you know even though her skin is a lighter shade because of where she comes from people say that must be a gangsta and it’s the farthest thing from the truth and i’m thinking like this this kind of dialogue helps but there’s one party uh who’s uh they call them comrades uh the code word is comrades that they want the division They’re the ones who started the Jim Crow laws. And I have a feeling that they’re playing all of us. Okay. Go ahead, Casper. It’s not going to be anything done as long as they’re playing us and we’re falling for it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, Casper. Yeah, Johnny’s right. It is a game, but the solution is incredibly simple. I mean, like, way simple. It’s so simple that they’ll never do it. so one is to improve the actual legal immigration process it doesn’t need it shouldn’t be thirty thousand dollars of extortion it should be a much easier process secondly the folks that are here illegally undocumented who have not committed any other crime other than coming across the border illegally they should go in line behind all the others who did come here legally And take a number. And if they have sponsorship, and this is all law, by the way, all the books right now. If they have sponsorship from a business or someone that will vouch for them, then they can stay. But if they don’t, they have to go back and wait until their number comes up, just like in DMV. You have to wait until your number comes up. Then you can come illegally under a better process.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, wouldn’t you agree, and just tell me, because to me, it’s a national emergency. All these people that came here, you know crime went up. My family has been a victim of the crime. Me, personally, it’s serious crime. It’s not the same country anymore. You know I love everybody, but I’m the same energy type of person. I’m the same energy. So she had mentioned like being the new black. Now, don’t think because I’m a conservative or a Republican that I don’t sit up here and talk about reparations. And because I’m in the copyright trademarks and I know what is up and there is no statute of limitation on murder. I have this conversation with all my friends. Some may agree, some may not, but politics is not who I am. It’s just something that I do. I want to bring people together, make America dream how it’s supposed to be for everybody. And but it has to be the same energy. So if you are here undocumented, illegal, then like you said, we need to fix that right away. But how do we do it? We just had I had my African friends in here and the Somalians are robbing this country bond. Like, you don’t think I want to have a billion dollars? You know what I’m saying? Like, are you serious? Like, we have to get we have to solve this. We have to get these people that don’t love America, that don’t want to be Americans about here. That’s it. What do you think? I’ll start with you.
SPEAKER 04 :
What do I think exactly about what? That America is getting hot? Or what is it exactly that you want me to answer?
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. How do you feel about people who are illegal being here committing crimes and going in front of the line of other people who are not committing?
SPEAKER 04 :
I feel the same way as when black commit, when there are criminals too, and also whites, I feel the same way. The status have nothing to do with your behavior. So I feel the same way. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Latino and you’re a criminal and you’re a thug and you’re a gangster. Yeah, guess what? You know, I feel the same way. You commit a crime, you have to pay for it. And the same way with blacks, Anglos, in the whole community, it goes the same way. Why should I feel any different just because of somebody’s status?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so let me ask you this. 9-11, right? And my family used to be FBI, sergeants, police officers, all of that, you know, back in their day. If… A group of people is committing a crime. Let’s say, like, Arabic. And they’re doing suicide bombing and blowing up buildings and doing all that kind of… That’s part of their culture, what they do. Now, they have brought that here to America. And we have to protect American and American citizens. When I’m looking for… That person who may or may not be a terrorist, do you not think that I’m not going to be looking into the Arabic community? I’m not going to be looking into the white community, the black community. We don’t do that. I’m not going to be looking in the Hispanic community. People are brought up from their culture what they do. So it’s not a racial thing. It’s just a common sense thing. Now, you’re saying that ICE is just grabbing people and grabbing Hispanics off the thing? Yeah. That is wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re hunting us. They’re hunting us. They’re into places where the criminals don’t go to. You know, like, what are you doing at 8 a.m. in the morning at a church or a health fair or, you know, at an event? I’m like, come on, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you have any actual proof of that? Because if that were the case, the news would be, like, broadcasting that 24-7.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you know, ICE know how to hide really well what they’re doing to our community. And we’re not going to find research and studies.
SPEAKER 11 :
ICE is not hiding anything other than their face because anytime ICE shows up. They put out a bulletin to have protesters show up wherever ICE is, so they’re not hiding.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I can show you on Facebook one of the businesses that they went into, and they sell just groceries. They sell just tortillas. And I’m not going to mention the name of the business. They just showed up.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what ICE is? Do you know what ICE’s job is?
SPEAKER 04 :
ICE’s job is to, no, ICE’s job is to humiliate, to treat our people wrong.
SPEAKER 11 :
And if they say to protect the country, that’s B. No, ICE’s job is to enforce the law that is passed by. Come on.
SPEAKER 04 :
What law? What law? You must not be a person of color, my friend. He’s black. he’s black okay then you know what what i’m talking about 66 years my friend you have been a person of color and you know that this country never followed the law with you and me i i have been profiled i’ve been stopped i’ve been uh asked questions of you know for no reason whatsoever i’ve been harassed by police My point is… And are they following the law when they’re harassing you, when they’re racial profiling you? Come on, man. But you know that I have to respect where you come from, and hopefully you respect where I come from. But the law in the United States was not made for you and me. The law in the United States and systems were made for the white folks. Do you understand that? Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER 07 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is good. Okay. Okay. Republicans are white, and they said, yes, the laws are made for us, but the Democrats got to convince you that all white people, and it is not all white people. The Democrats, as Malcolm X said, they have not changed. They don’t like black people, but they put black people in white spaces pretending that So when you say all, it’s not all, because if it was all, the Republicans would say, hey, slavery, keep it going.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, what’s your opinion, Casper?
SPEAKER 11 :
My opinion is if you don’t know the law, then you will be exploited by the law. Amen. In the cases that I was telling you about, I was younger and I didn’t know what my rights were and so forth. Now, today… If I am harassed by police, we’re going to court because I know the law and I have the resources to fight them and win. I have the knowledge. I have the Constitution. I have all that as my guide. So when it comes to folks being harassed, if you’re in Mexico and you’re an American,
SPEAKER 04 :
We love you. When you go to Mexico, we treat you the best.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m telling you, when you go to Mexico… I’m not talking about tourists. I’m talking about… You’re talking about activists. Yeah, if you go to Mexico and you’re an American, you say, first of all, I’m here to get on the system. I’m holding an American flag because I’m an American in Mexico. The next move for you would be to jail.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jail. You’ll be dead. Well, I don’t know about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know about that. Come on. But, you know, I honestly think that we need an amnesty. We need an immigration reform. We need to keep the undocumented community legal so our economy can grow and we can build together.
SPEAKER 11 :
But not a blanket… but not a blanket amnesty for tens of millions of people. What it should be is you get in line. If you don’t get in line, or self-deport to get in line, if you don’t do those things, then you’re subject to be… Well, the Venezuelans didn’t get in line much.
SPEAKER 04 :
They just got here and got documented and everything else.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that’s why they have to get up out of here.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t think so, man. I don’t think that they’re going to take everyone out. But that was very unfair.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, if they’re undocumented and they broke the law, if they’re here illegally, just the whole part of coming here.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no, but what I’m saying is they got here legal, but they were not in line. And my friends, Casper and what’s his name?
SPEAKER 11 :
They didn’t come here legally. They came here with a little wink-wink from the Biden administration that it wasn’t legal at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I will also say, I can speak on this in reference to the three Venezuelan girls, ladies that I know. Every single one of them crossed the border illegally.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they have to be ladies, huh, that you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because when I’m in the club, that’s what I’m looking at.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m looking at ladies. Oh, now I see. We want undocumented beautiful woman in United States.
SPEAKER 06 :
I wonder how that happens. I tell my audience all the time. I say, hey, Luke, every Venezuelan woman I run across is beautiful. Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a man in you.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s the man in me. But let me tell you, I brought them up here, one of them here, so they can have their voice and tell their story. And she pretty much put it all out in line, and it’s really sad. One of them walked 10 miles in her bare feet. And she said the money they had to pay the cartel at home, the money they had to pay along the route, and it was other things that were done to them that we won’t say on this air. And she did all of that to get here. And I said, okay, well, now you’re here. Why can’t you now break away? Break away, do what you do. You’re here illegally, but you’re here from that hell. And she says they have people here here and they are there are white people and there are some actual uh Hispanics as well that are here that set them up that take them to the clubs that pick them up that they have to pay all this money and they have them housed in in in you know in their own houses that they rent it’s not when they get here they’re free when they get here they’re still a slave they’re still a slave And I said, well, can’t you run? Can’t you go to the police? What do you want me to do? There’s nothing they can do because she says somebody will kill her daughter back home. Oh, yeah. So that is a life. Now, that right there, I can understand fleeing. You know what I’m saying? I can understand fleeing that. We have to keep the same energy and everything. Like, Astrid, I think you had a good situation. What is it, amnesty? But the bottom line is, however you broke away from that, because that’s a nightmare. That is a freaking nightmare. And she’s crying in my face on the phone, worried about her family and her daughter. And now she’s here literally like a slave. And like you said, can I relate to that? My people, yes, yes. I feel that. I feel that. The modern slave. The modern slavery. You’re 100% correct. But how do we fix it? How do we fix it to where we can help the world, but the world comes here and appreciates? You need to love America. This needs to be your country first to be here because that is how it works. America wasn’t born great, but she was made great. And we’re still trying to make her greater and greater. What you’re doing is trying to make it greater and greater.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s all unite. Right. Yes. But the people on the top, the ones that can make decisions are the ones that are even confused with making all these decisions. It cuts on Medicaid, Medicare, and all of that, access to care. So it is sad because you and I and Casper and whomever. And Johnny. And Johnny. I memorized Casper because you have a beautiful name. Thank you. But I think the people on the top are the ones that need to make the changes because all of us can talk to them. We’re blue and nothing will happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, this was a great conversation. You’re listening to 560 KLZ. I’m a uniter. We’ll be right back. Back.
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Yo, what’s up? 560 KLZ. I’m your knight. It’s Reggie Rocco. And man, we are, oh my God. We got a hot topic going on. But you know what? It feels good because this is what we need to do to bring everybody together to solve this. Casper, we’re going to have somebody else chime in. But in the meantime, why don’t you, you’re big in that activism. You have a lot of things going on. And you also have an event tomorrow, don’t you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, yes, I am.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I will be there.
SPEAKER 04 :
You better be there. You know, I create spaces where those spaces are not created for us. Tomorrow we will have the first and first ever Behavioral and Mental Health Conference in Español translated into English to all the providers and the community at the Cool Events Center in Aurora. And we’re going to have lots and lots of fun, and you guys are going to see a different type of behavioral and mental health conference that is organized for the community, by the community, where we will be discussing how the systems have failed us or, you know, we have succeeded looking for help. If we believe in telemedicine, if we believe in telehealth, I have been in public health for the past 30 years. I’m the suicide prevention commissioner. So that’s one of my jobs to raise awareness for the communities to access their services. This is for immigrants and refugee families, but I will invite all of you guys to stop by. The black community has been a big supporter of mine. I love the black community, and I hope that we can continue working together. I am in the process of organizing a coalition or a collaborative where in Aurora, for the city of Aurora, I want to start with Aurora, where we can discuss these issues in a peaceful way, where you can ask me the questions that you guys are asking me today without being offended, you know, giving our different point of views. And staying strong for each other. Because if we don’t unite, black and browns, they’re going to come after us no matter what. Imagine how strong would that be when black and browns can unite and fight the good fight.
SPEAKER 06 :
so let me let me make a comment right there actually black and brown did unite but they united for trump they they’re they black and brown by an overwhelming amount have joined the conservative the the that team and hispanics for that not latinos for i mean it’s it’s uh i i so the latinos want to be voted for trump huh oh there’s a there’s a there’s a literally there’s a what kind of latinos are those um i don’t know what you’re like i don’t know i’m just saying they’re latinos i don’t i can’t tell you but they’re hispanics a lot of hispanics for trump they’re they’re those um they’re those latinos
SPEAKER 04 :
who have acculturated so much white wannabes. And I’m not saying just because they’re highly educated. Because the way they speak, no. It’s because they’re so integrated that they can see that this is where they come from. They’re Latinos. And, you know, no matter what you do, people are going to see you brown. People are going to see who you are. You know, so I feel that that type of Latinos, and if they’re listening to me, they can communicate. Yeah, they’re definitely listening. They’re listening, and they can call me, but that’s my own opinion, right? Right, right. Now, I’m not going to try to offend anyone. No, no, no. I didn’t come here to the show to offend anyone, but to say my truth, I got invited to say my truth. Exactly. And if they want to say their truth, you can invite them too, right? Yes, exactly. But today, Julissa Soto’s in the house, and Julissa Soto’s going to speak up.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, Julissa, listen to me. this you’re on the right show you’re on the right show we keep it real on this show right so we i expect anybody that i speak with to speak in truth other words you’re wasting my time you know i want to hear your opinion i want to hear what you think it don’t matter if we may agree we may not agree but the bottom line like we it’s like we’ve been knowing each other for a long time already like right and tell everyone how you met me yesterday Now I came down the escalator or elevator and I seen a crowd of people around this lady and I’m like, what’s going on here? And then I heard her voice. I seen her posture, how she carried herself. I said, yeah, let me, I asked this lady and said, who was this right here? And she explained to me that you were an activist and that you were involved in community stuff and all that. I’m like, really? I said, okay, cool. I’m going to talk to her, let her know. I’m going to bring her up on the show. Because I seen with my own eyes the respect that you had. And it was white people. It was white people, Hispanic people. That’s my vibe. So I like the truth. So, yes, I have witnessed it myself. And that’s why she’s here today. Marianne, you’re on the line. You have something to say?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, I tend to disagree with the way she talks about ICE. I live in Greeley, Colorado, and we probably have as many undocumented, whatever you want to call them, as we do legal. I’ve never heard of ICE going into homes and just pulling out anybody. I think she’s spewing a lot of this stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
uh stuff that i’ve heard on tv no ma’am no ma’am greatly is one of the cities that is is under attack i happen to be hispanic so you can’t you know yeah you’re you’re one of those hispanics that have been here for generations and generations that don’t fear correct how long have you been in united states how long have you been in united states were you born here
SPEAKER 12 :
I was born here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. So you don’t have the problem that I’m talking about, language status and discrimination.
SPEAKER 12 :
You seem to have a problem. I don’t, ma’am. It still goes for your benefit because some of the things that you spewed about ICE…
SPEAKER 04 :
it’s like you have no respect for ice i don’t and i will never do so why should i when they’re attacking my people they’re killing my people they’re going to the meat packing companies some some of these they’ve had they’ve had why should i have respect for somebody that is killing my people do you have respect for the people that kill your people and back in the days Okay, what do you mean your people? Do you have respect for Hitler? Do you have respect for… Who has been somebody that has attacked, you know?
SPEAKER 12 :
Answer my question. What do you mean your people?
SPEAKER 04 :
My people is the Latino immigrant community. You know, I’m very proud of being Latina, speak two languages, have dual citizenship.
SPEAKER 12 :
So do I. Perfect.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re my people, and I’m your people. That’s our people.
SPEAKER 12 :
i have worked in two different countries and great i’m excited for you no it has nothing to do with excitement it has to do i’m excited that you have been in two countries i have been in six continents representing my community it has to do with the laws every country has to have laws or they
SPEAKER 04 :
What are you talking about? Do you understand that Colorado was not Colorado? It’s Colorado. Do you understand that Texas is not Texas? It was Texas. You’re calling us, and I’m not saying you, but people are calling us intruders here. When America, when you guys steal seven states from us, who’s the intruder here?
SPEAKER 06 :
Casper, chime in on that because you speak on that.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was purchased, not taken.
SPEAKER 04 :
purchase for one penny my friend exactly it doesn’t matter what the car it was come on guys it matters you pay nothing lady learn your history i will i’m gonna go back to high school i think should i go back to learn first how to speak english and then i want to go to school give me one second give me one second casper because i i Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
I need to talk to this Latino lady. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
I need to talk to this Latino lady. What should I do to learn history? What should I do? I’m leaving history. I’m part of history. So what do you want me to do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Besides that type, unless people are.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would love for you to come to our conference tomorrow. It’s a great conference, a mental and behavioral health conference that you will love. You will see lots of providers there in Aurora, Colorado, and maybe you and I can meet and talk and dialogue, and I would love to meet you in person, for real. I would.
SPEAKER 12 :
But you need to quit spewing the bad information that you’re spewing.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, my friend. You know, we all have our own opinions, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, one second. Casper, go ahead. Go ahead, Casper.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so some of you here today aren’t old enough to remember, but back in the 80s when Reagan was president, The same discussion was happening. So this is not new. This is not for this time. It’s been going on forever, even into the early 1800s. So my point is that there are entities, and I’m not going to go into the specifics, but that don’t want this problem to be solved. They want us to be fighting each other. They want us to be at odds with each other so that they can continue to do what they do. Yep. So as long as we have sides and I’m this and you’re that, you’re Latino, I’m black, whatever, all that stuff is almost irrelevant because as we continue to fight each other, they continue to dominate. I agree with you.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Casper, are you coming tomorrow to my conference so I can meet you? Because you sound very, very eloquent.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, but I’m sorry. I probably won’t be able to make it because I’ve got… I’m pretty busy these days. But when it comes to ICE, and I want you to hear me on this. Okay. ICE is just a law enforcement arm of the government. They’re not a separate entity. They cannot do anything on their own. Just like the military. I was in the military. I was in the Air Force. We can’t do anything on our own. We have to have orders from somebody. higher power in the government. In our case, in the military, it’s the president. In the case of ICE, it’s Homeland Security and all these other agencies. So ICE cannot just roam around the community and see someone with brown skin and say, let’s go get them. They can’t do that. It’s illegal for them to do that. They have to have orders to arrest a particular individual
SPEAKER 04 :
that they’re looking for now if that individual happens to be at a grocery store or at a church or at a wherever they can find them then that’s just how and then and then casper they they go out there and then they kill people because that that other people seem to happen to be around where those quote-unquote criminals were like we’re not following we’re not following policies we’re not okay i’m sorry we’re not following
SPEAKER 11 :
In America, we have the Constitution. We have the right to protest. Peacefully protest. The second that you, me, Reggie, Johnny, anybody, the second that you interfere with a legal, lawful operation, you are putting your life in jeopardy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I agree with that.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you want to protest, you protest on the side of the road and not block… A legal, lawful operation. As long as you do that, you won’t be shot. You won’t be harmed. Nothing will happen to you. They don’t go into the crowd and start shooting people.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let me chime in here. It’s real hard to go back 200 plus years, 300. It’s hard. None of us know what was taking place actually to form this country, to make it what it is, to the direction where we are now. I do know that regardless of what happened back then, even slavery, because you guys know how I feel about that. And I feel disrespected as a black man because what was done to us. And it’s hard to go back and make things right from that far back. I think we can learn from that. And I think we can change certain things. But really what we got to do is concentrate on today. What can we do today to bring everybody together to fix the things that are obviously wrong and the things that need to be that are laws and that need to be enforced? I mean, we can’t have a country without laws. There’s no doubt about that. You can have your wife or your girlfriend walking down the street and somebody can just beat her up or rape her. If there’s no consequences for that, then we are in chaos. So we have to have laws. But what I do agree is that… the the formats that we have to sit down and talk about this stuff should be done all respectfully it should be very very respectful it should be i love the energy i love the energy but i’m about solutions and i’m about the same energy see because i don’t disrespect anybody unless they disrespect me and then i’m another another person so i like this platform I love what you stand for. I’m seeing I’m definitely going to be there tomorrow. Casper, you know, from the things that you’ve been through running in as in this system, you ran what, two, three times. And a lot of times you should have been the nominee. You should have been the one who’s leading this direction because you know what? I believe if you were one of the ones that won one of those elections that we already know we would already have boots on the ground doing exactly what we’re doing, saying exactly what we’re saying, meeting with people like my guests. And it’s like, but nothing ever gets done. You get these people in the office. And they say they’re gonna do this, that, and the other, and it never happens. And that’s the travesty that bothers me. When we did I’m a Trumpster, I got involved with Trump. I’m in a national recording studio. And I hear somebody talk about intellectual properties. Everybody knows about money and this and I’m around all the big dogs, all the superstars. I don’t have money that I don’t even want to talk about. And I’ve got relationships that are. Incredible. But the reason why I got into politics is because he said one word. China is stealing our intellectual properties. And that happened to me big time. And so I knew it had to be a change. Now, how do we change it? What do we do? I believe we treat everybody equal. I believe that we have laws for this country that have to be abided by. And we got to do events like, my guess, who?
SPEAKER 04 :
Julissa. Julissa Soto, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, Julissa. Tell us about that event again, because we’re going to get ready to get out. Tell me what’s going on tomorrow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tomorrow at the Cool Events Center in Aurora, we will have a behavioral and mental health conference. The first behavioral and mental health conference in Spanish for providers. It’s a training for providers and cultural validation, and it will be translated into English. And also for the community, by the community members. The community will come and speak to providers about their challenges about accessing care and what works and what doesn’t. So it’s going to be a very, very cool event at the Cool Events Center in Aurora. So please, tomorrow we will be there 10 to 2 p.m. The event is free at no cost. So I would expect a lot of you guys to be there. And I’m making a call to my black community, Anglo community, Let’s all unite, and what better way to unite in peace at the Cool Events Center.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, great. So check it out. We’re going to get out of here. I’m going to talk to you about coming back maybe next week. Casper, I’m going to have some other people in here.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no. After this conversation, I don’t want to come back again. I’m just kidding. I’m just kidding. For the lady that I was talking to, I would love to meet her in person. Casper, I would love to meet you in person. Hopefully, you can stop by for 10 minutes and say hi.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, definitely. All right, man. We’re going to count it down. Three, two, one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s go. And we out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. All right, y’all. It’s that time. We out of here. But you’ve been listening to KLC 560 AM. I’m a United Reggie Rocko. Yeah. It’s fun. We will tackle the issues. Every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It’s about love, y’all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
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