In this episode of A Guy’s Perspective, the guys take an honest look at Christmas through a man’s eyes—covering everything from gift expectations and credit card debt to family pressure, faith, and mental health during the holidays.
The conversation moves from funny and relatable stories to serious realities many men face this time of year: financial stress, comparison, holiday depression, and the pressure to provide when money is tight. The guys talk openly about childhood Christmas memories, traditions, and how expectations have shifted over time—often pushing families into unnecessary debt.
They also dig into deeper topics, including grief during the holidays,
SPEAKER 10 :
I can’t hide myself, I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain, what it’s like to be a man I can’t hide myself, I don’t expect you to know It’s not about how you feel
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with. Whether married, single parent, or just single, we invite you to call in to this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 04 :
How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM, and this is The Guys Perspective. You can listen to us every Saturday from 2 to 3, or you can go to Spotify, Apple iTunes, etc. Check us out at The Guys Perspective. And you can listen to us every time. So let’s go around the room and let’s get started. We’ll start over here to the left.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hi, I’m Heath Hiney, the actor in Colorado.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, this is Andre, your local business owner. This is Brock, and we have a guest. That’s Nate Phillips. Nice.
SPEAKER 04 :
Don’t you want to tell your business? Yeah, tell people about your business.
SPEAKER 13 :
I own and operate Artisan Custom Hardwoods. We’ve been local for the last 25 plus years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Where can they go to find your company?
SPEAKER 13 :
ArtisanCustomHardwoods.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
Perfect. Do you want to give them a number real quick? You got to make it slow because I go super fast and people chime in and they’re like, tell that dude to slow down. Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Feel free to give us a call at 720-278-3553.
SPEAKER 04 :
Perfect. And just to give people a heads up, sometime next year, probably January, February, I don’t know, maybe February, March, the guy’s perspective is, well, we’re going to be on campus and we’re going to be debating people about racism. So we’ll let people know more about that. Auraria campus.
SPEAKER 03 :
Auraria? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, probably. Okay. Okay, so it sounds like we’re going to be debating people when it comes to racism. I think my professor reached out to us. He loved it. So I think we’re going to do that. Another thing, also, next year, everybody who’s listening to us, the guy’s perspective will have their book coming out next year. Yeah. We don’t exactly know when, but stay tuned. Yeah. And help us, help us to be a number one seller, man. Like that, that would be super cool guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. We’re looking, we’re looking at it being kind of an anthology, which is in film terms or even in book writing terms is where you have multiple people giving their story and you can see the culmination or the comparison and parallels between.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s really, really good. And remember, like always, you can call and chime in at 303-477-5600. Again, that’s 303-477-5600. Let’s dive into it, guys. Topics about Christmas. Oh, Christmas. Christmas. Is that why I wore this Christmas shirt? Tis the season. Christmas, man. Okay, let’s talk about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re missing out on Yeasty Boy, just so you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Shout out to Brian, right? He’s out there. In Reno. In Reno.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just pray for his sacks.
SPEAKER 04 :
So let’s dive right into it. Gifts. Do you guys think gifts or do you think Christmas has became a thing that’s about money now versus…
SPEAKER 13 :
I feel like it’s turned into a hallmark holiday. Everybody expects lots of high-end or expensive gifts, where I’ve, the last decade or so, tried to do just experiences. So I take the family out for dinner, the whole family, or experiences, travel, do whatever, just spending quality time with everybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait, is that an experience so you can find out who orders the most? That’s right. You’re like, oh, this person’s ordering steak and lobster for $120. That’s a high roller.
SPEAKER 13 :
Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
So do we all agree that Christmas is commercialized? Commercialized?
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Especially since 1930 when the Coca-Cola company made it popular.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my goodness. They got some cool commercials, though, with the bears, though.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, they do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, you’re going on a theory.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 03 :
A real theory train. No, I mean, I know it’s been validated and stuff that they created, like Santa Claus and all this stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
That red and white Coca-Cola, right? Yeah. That’s their colors.
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1930.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because I always think about it like, and I was asking Andre before the show, when did we come up with, Like, I think Christmas has changed, right? Like, the meaning of it, like, the gestures behind it. Like, you were saying it’s more than just the gifts and the wrapping paper, right? I mean, but if you show up, if you don’t buy your significant, like if I don’t buy my girlfriend a gift, she’s probably going to be upset. You know what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 03 :
But she should forgive you. It’s Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but is Christmas more than just, yes, and Sarah would forgive me, but is it more than just the wrapping paper in the whole nine yards?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I definitely think it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys, I don’t know, man. I’ve been feeling the spirit this year. It’s probably because I don’t live in a trailer no more. Oh, well, there you go. You got the fireplace going. The fireplace, the tree, the hanging the mistletoe. Well, no, I need to get some mistletoe. Stockings. Stockings. Hung by the chimney. There’s a mouse in the house that’s kind of scratching.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is there really a mouse in the house?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I got to get him. oh snap but the cats haven’t got them um she’s gotten four what yeah um but we’re gonna get it we’re gonna get this one peanut butter man that’ll do it um but um but i i’ve been feeling a lot more christmassy man because for me it’s like going from that fifth wheel trailer into a house i don’t know um i don’t even need a gift because that is the gift like and the family in there that is the gift are you gonna get your wife a gift though with that said No.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re not? Well, why? Why? Okay, let’s get serious about this, guys. Why are you not getting your wife a gift? Because I got her a $400,000 home. Okay, well that, yeah, okay. That’s a gift. That trumps everything. But if you think about it, because somewhere I was reading that, if it’s Christmas Day and everybody’s opening their present and your significant other does not get a present, it makes that person feel lonely, left out, vulnerable.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I think if your spouse tells you, your significant other tells you, Don’t get me a gift this year. Get him a gift. Oh, that’s code for give him a gift? That’s a trick question. That’s a trap.
SPEAKER 04 :
I believe you.
SPEAKER 14 :
I absolutely believe you that’s a trap. You better give him a card at least or something. What about you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Uh, no, I agree. I think it’s also a subconscious thing that we grew up with that you always want to wake up and open a present, right? Even if you’re doing experiences or whatever in exchange for, you know, most of your, your presence, but everybody wants that surprise that, you know, what am I going to get from Santa or, you know, what was something thinking about me this year?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I love that he’s talking about youth because that’s the one thing we all go back to for what Christmas is, what it represents and signifies. And I saw a video, like TikTok or something, and somebody said, remember how you felt that magical moment and you felt that Christmas and you got that bike you wanted or that Nintendo for all of us? Atari. Atari. Yeah. And remember how you got that and why that felt so special? They said, well, yeah, your parents made that happen. So now it’s your turn to make that happen for others.
SPEAKER 14 :
Speaking of Santa Claus, I got to ask you something. So in Christendom, it seems like you can’t say Santa Claus because it takes away from, you know, the spiritual implication of Jesus. But with that said, I mean, are we really celebrating Jesus on the 25th?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, so that’s what I was going to say. Right. So when did we get to the place to where if any day we should celebrate the Lord’s birthday, I think it’s Christmas. But who came up with that? Because we know that that’s not really Catholic. Oh, you think Catholicism came up with it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Totally. Look at how many things they adapt. Sorry for any Catholics out there. But, you know, how many saints are out there, you know, that actually are pagan gods, goddesses, etc.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, think about it. Santa Claus was Sinterklaas. Yeah. From Germany.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there’s different. What? Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that’s right. Oh, yeah. Oh, Sinterklaas.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I thought you were just making something up.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, legit, legit.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s like, I don’t even know about this guy. Listen, people, if you guys know more than us about Christmas and where it came from, call at 303-477-5600. Listen, guys, I think Christmas is… an amazing day of the year. If anything, it’s my most favorite time of the year. I love the light. I love the tree. You know, that’s crazy. We’re talking about this because there was a guy who was debating me about Christmas one day and he was like, in the Bible, it says you don’t kneel down with a present. Well, I turned around. Yeah, I turned around and said, that’s a totem pole, man. And he was like, that ain’t no totem pole. I said, it says tree. See, but that’s pagan too, though.
SPEAKER 14 :
A tree is pagan because that’s a sign of virility.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no, no, no. I agree. But my whole thing was, is if you’re going to turn around and say, don’t decorate it, a totem pole was something they completely decorate.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, but you know what kind of sucks about that is how everyone wants to debunk Christmas. Like, you know, I just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Does that make it fun or not? I mean, for children, could you imagine explaining this? Like, actually, guys, you know, we really aren’t celebrating Christ’s birth. You know, what about churches that are like, you shouldn’t celebrate with a Christmas tree? Or you shouldn’t celebrate with presents or anything like that? Then I will say, what about the wise men that came bearing gifts? So bring me a gift, Keith.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think for obviously there’s a lot of religions that don’t celebrate Christmas and like Seventh-day Adventist and Jehovah’s Witness and all that stuff. They don’t celebrate.
SPEAKER 14 :
The J-dubs don’t?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not Christmas. It’s a sin.
SPEAKER 04 :
Guys, the only way I think celebrating Christmas would be wrong in any way, and listen, people, take us for a grain of salt, do whatever you want to do. But if you turn around and celebrate Christmas and you go so far into debt to where you can’t pay your mortgage, you can’t pay your rent, you can’t supply food or whatever, that’s when Christmas, in my eyes, becomes something that’s super pagan. Because I looked it up. Half of America, I couldn’t believe this stat, Half of America will go in debt for Christmas.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I know a lot of those people that will go into debt for six months just so they can, you know, buy everything under the sun for their loved ones, which in the thought of is great. But the financial responsibility in which you do to yourself for that time frame really hurts everybody in the long run.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you. It’s said that it’s the thought that counts, but then you’re like, well, what were you thinking? Pretty much. What were you thinking? You put our whole family in debt because you just wanted to make everybody’s Christmas?
SPEAKER 13 :
Because somebody had to have the brand new PlayStation 5 that’s $35,000 right now or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And so when does it become so detrimental to your house, Christmas? When does Christmas become so detrimental to where it may seem good for that day, but now there’s dysfunction the rest of the year?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and that’s that immediate gratification, instant gratification. So when people are shopping after that, and let’s face it, people, you don’t need the people in your life that are only around for the gifts you give. and don’t be that person either like you should be the gift and like it is more blessed to give than to receive um and and uh and i don’t know it’s just like look for those type of relationships not ones that are just predicated upon or or built upon materialism
SPEAKER 04 :
And people, give us a call at 303-477-5600. Tell us what you think is overboard for a gift. What you’re going to do for your significant other. Or your children. Or your children and how it’s going to affect you. Because, guys, let’s be real. Christmas is an amazing time of the year. But if you cannot afford it, not only does it make you feel bad. We’re talking about men here. We’re not women, so we don’t know how that works for them. But as a guy… When you turn around and it’s Christmas and you can’t afford something for your kids or for your significant other, it hurts you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I can afford everything on this credit card that I got from Capital.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hold on, but everybody thinks like that, and now January 1st comes rolling around, or they hit you with that, oh, you don’t have to pay for 60-day thing. Or 12 months, or 24. That’s funny we’re talking about it. So I got a laptop. This is crazy you just mentioned that. I went and bought, this was five years ago, I bought an Alienware laptop for $3,000. I wrapped that stuff up myself and put it under the tree. Well, they hit me with, if you have it paid off in 12 months, it won’t collect interest. Well, this is… Stupid me to not do the math on the interest, right?
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Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like, I turned around, and now all of a sudden it went from $3,000 to $4,000. Oh, like $1,000. I could not believe it. And here’s where they got me. They got me with the advertisement of, you only have to pay $43 a month. Well… As the year was ending, I thought, 43? I looked at it. I didn’t even scratch the surface on how much I owed for the laptop.
SPEAKER 03 :
You paid all the interest. They just gave you the basics. So that’s why we have Christmas comes twice a year and comes in July, like Christmas in July. It’s for them. They’re the ones that get the extra money as Christmas to them twice.
SPEAKER 04 :
So let’s go around the room. So when is it too much? When’s Christmas too much?
SPEAKER 03 :
Ah. Man, I don’t know. I don’t know. I mean, I think it’s when somebody goes into debt for something. I think some of the, it’s about love languages, really. Because some people, they like quality time. And so it doesn’t matter if you buy them something or try to buy their love. It won’t matter. So you need to know your audience who you’re speaking to so that you either buy or share time with them.
SPEAKER 04 :
God, that’s good advice, dude. That’s really good advice.
SPEAKER 03 :
Consider the person you’re buying for.
SPEAKER 14 :
What do you say, Andre? You know, Heath, I’m with you on that one. If you’re going to get a gift and it’s a gift that you like, it may not be the gift that they like, but you’ve got to live within your means, right? So, I mean, look at Affirm. All these other companies have made it so much easier. I don’t think they do background checks, right? Credit checks, right? You can get, like, interest-free or whatever the case is. You’re not even using a credit card. You’re using these, I forgot the exact terminology, but using these companies like PayPal, et cetera, Affirm, things like that where you can buy all these gifts. But now, you still got to pay it back, right? But it’s just like the Dave Ramsey. Yeah, it’s just like the Dave Ramsey thing. Remember back in the day when you used to be able to put things on layaway? Yeah. Do they even do that anymore? I don’t think so. I don’t think so either.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, you’re bringing up a good point. So should you ever go Christmas shopping on your credit card?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you can pay it off at the end of the month.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you can pay it off at the end of the month, that’s good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dave Ramsey would shoot you down on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Gotcha. So, yeah, a holiday should never be a free pass for not checking your finances.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Should never be a free pass.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you don’t think Christmas is that one day of the year where you get that free pass to go and splurge that credit card’s got a $10,000 limit and you can put $9,000 on it right now. You shouldn’t do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely not. And you’re only feeding into the beast of the commercialism or the materialistic holiday.
SPEAKER 14 :
So was gift giving, you know, back in the day, was that even a thing maybe? I mean, I did say.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, man, you’re asking a good question. I bet a lot of the gift giving was, well, the system was barter system, most likely. So you give somebody a back rub and they’d make you a cake.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, I mean, no, you’re bringing up a good point because remember your go back, guys, go back to when you were five years old and think of your first Christmas or four or seven, as far back as you can go. What was the gift you got?
SPEAKER 14 :
And you were absolutely happy about it. You know, the gift that I truly remember. And that’s because my dad was self-employed. So, you know, it can be hit and miss when you’re self-employed. Right. And the Atari 2600 came out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, man. Dude, is that the one where it had the little board that came rolling by with the little ping thing? Yeah. Dude, that was so legit, though. Keep going.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that Atari was wood grain gripping, man. Yeah, and I still like wood grain.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re talking old school stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, all right. So, you know, I remember that being memorable because, like, we used to watch TV on a black-and-white little TV. That Christmas, man, he must have done pretty good because all of a sudden he brought home a color TV, and then for Christmas we had a nice tree, and then the Atari 2600 with a few games, I think even, except for Pac-Man. I don’t think we could afford Pac-Man.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was probably still $50 back then. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
But no, because I can remember the first gift I got. I was on the bayou, and I remember thinking I wanted some He-Man crap. You know what I’m saying, dude? Where you got the breastplate and the sword, dude. When that stuff… Because we didn’t have a tree on the bayou. It wasn’t no Christmas tree. I mean, if it would have been, I don’t know how it would have been decorated with alligators or some kind of stuff like that, but… It was still cool opening a present without a treat. I’m sure. I mean, you know what I’m saying? Like, like I think those memories, because I really think, like you said, did people give gifts? And I think they did, but they live so below their, their means at giving a gift where nowadays, like people were getting, you know, who, who knows parents are spending hundreds of thousands on kids. And I just don’t, I think that takes away from Christmas.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I think every year people think they need to up what they did last year. Oh, that’s true. It’s always got to be bigger and better. It doesn’t matter what it is, but it’s got to be bigger and better than it was last year.
SPEAKER 14 :
Until they become the know-it-all teenagers, then it’s like, all right, you’re only getting $100. You’re only getting $20.
SPEAKER 03 :
What is it? I just think of that biblical scripture that says, like, they measuring themselves by themselves, like, we’re fools. And when you end up measuring yourself by your last year of what you bought people and stuff like that, it’s a fool’s errand. to continually increase. In fact, sometimes minimalizing, sometimes pulling, scaling that back and doing something different will speak a greater amount of love towards somebody.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or hatred. Well, yeah, because I was going to piggyback that on kids. Like imagine kids that go to school. You know, it’s a day after Christmas or it’s the 2nd of January. You see kids with all kind of new stuff, and then all of a sudden you’re the one kid that doesn’t have anything. That could probably mess with you psychologically, and it probably does to kids on a serious level. And I’m not saying that parents should go out and take into consideration everything everybody else is doing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Always trying to keep up with the Joneses.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. What did you remember, Nate, from like your youth? Like the most memorable gift?
SPEAKER 13 :
I remember I got a bike one year and it was like the most amazing thing. It was like the bike I wanted. It was all tricked out. I thought I was the coolest kid in the neighborhood then. But I couldn’t write it for four more months until the snow melted in Iowa.
SPEAKER 14 :
Was it that Sigma? Remember that Sigma with the white?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, dude. It was white and gray.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, yeah. I was like, that was the vibe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dude, when you get the gift you want during Christmas, that’s legit. Okay, so let me ask you guys this. That’s funny we’re talking about the gifts you want. Did your parents ever give you a gift that it was reoccurring every year? Socks, underwear. That was grandparents.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Call us at 303-477-5600 and tell us about your Christmas experience. That’s the truth. Parents were always given socks and boxers, man. What about yours? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
My grandparents would do that, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
What about you? Well… the time christmas died and i know my mom’s listening here probably the time christmas died was when like um we were adults and we would just get like a hundred bucks yeah every christmas here you go 100 bucks oh and it didn’t change with inflation or nothing exactly just got the basic hundred dollars pretty much
SPEAKER 04 :
But I guess it gets to where parents no longer know what their kids want and money just makes more sense.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But see, that’s the commercial. Yeah. But see that detachment, how that begins to detach from the feeling behind it. Like me, I like again, I’m wearing I’m wearing a Christmas sweater in the studio here with you. And I’m just like. and on and being excited about, um, uh, pecan pie and Christmas cookies and, and, and, and hanging out with people and stuff, man. And that’s, that’s what I’m looking forward to. Um, and again, dude, I’m straight broke. Like we spent all our money on the house. I owe this dude across the street from us right here, across the mic from us right here. Um, but, uh, uh, uh, So I’m in debt right now, which puts us in a precarious situation of which we can’t afford gifts. But I think I’m probably going to see the greatest blessing out of it yet.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
I really do, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a cool Christmas present to turn around and get a house for Christmas, though.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I mean, you know. That’s exceptional.
SPEAKER 14 :
You don’t get that really around.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, for sure. Huh. Especially that prop. So have you guys now kind of, and I know we’ve only got five minutes, have y’all started your Christmas shopping yet? You know how guys get stereotyped like, oh, they’re going to wait until December 24th, like, listen people that’s fake that is not true that’s true no no no i wait till the 23rd yeah most guys like you guys you guys are business owners like so you’re probably always thinking ahead i think most guys are forward thinking instead of saying oh i’m gonna wait till the very last well maybe i’m wrong because like i don’t know what about you are you done with all your christmas shopping no Have you started? No.
SPEAKER 13 :
I guess I’m wrong.
SPEAKER 14 :
What about you? I did get a gift.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, but you got plenty more to go? I got a few days to, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
What about you? I told you I’m broke.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re done with it. The house is, that’s all you get.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everybody’s going to get a handshake and maybe they’ll catch a cold.
SPEAKER 13 :
Here you go. You’re welcome. The gift that keeps on giving.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it’s amazing. So what’s a tradition for Christmas that you’re going to do? Christmas cookies. Christmas cookies. Is that the only thing?
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s one of my favorites.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
What about you?
SPEAKER 14 :
Tamales, bro. Coming from a Hispanic family. Are you going to make them yourself? Oh, dude, you always get to unwrap something every year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, baby. No, that’s super cool. Are you going to make them yourself, though? Yeah, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. It’s good stuff, too. Yeah, that’s fine, dude. That’s cool. What about you?
SPEAKER 13 :
A lot of time. So I normally don’t buy gifts, typically, anyways, for my family. And when I say my family, my extended family, some of my parents and my my sisters and stuff so I have everybody get together for a Christmas meal so typically I just take them out to a dinner someplace and we just have that so I kind of get out easy on the gift and that’s your tradition that’s my tradition I’ve done for almost 20 years and then typically I’ll take the kids um on a trip for Christmas oh wow so once again no real gifts but we’re we’re gone and we’re spending time doing things oh yeah you’re spending quite a bit of money then
SPEAKER 03 :
And I know this for him. He also, for friends, it’s ugly sweater party. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And you do that too, don’t you? We do it too, but not this year.
SPEAKER 04 :
um so so that’s so tradition is you’re taking trips you’re build you’re making tamales you’re doing sugar cookies um wrapping paper do you guys buy a particular type of wrapping paper santa claus papers for santa claus a lot of people do so okay so you get santa paper and it comes from santa claus yeah and then there’s the other wrapping paper which comes from the parent because i feel like you gotta you know let your children know this one’s from santa
SPEAKER 14 :
And the Xbox is from your parents.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s super cool, man. People need to come back after the halftime because I got a real brain buster, man. It’s a million-dollar idea. You sell wrapping paper. It’s got like 50 Cent on it, M&M, Dr. Dre wrapping paper.
SPEAKER 04 :
This guy. And people, you can hear us on the other side. Give us a call always at 303-477-5600, and we’re going to dive back into this Christmas thing. All right. Bye-bye.
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SPEAKER 04 :
How’s it going, everybody? This is KLZ 560 AM. You can always call the guys at 303-477-5600. Call in and tell us what’s your favorite Christmas movie or Christmas memory of when you were a kid, an adult, whatever it might be. We were sitting here and we were just talking about Christmas movies. What’s your favorite Christmas movie? Let’s go around the table. We’ll start right here.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mine is Violent Night. That’s my new Killer Christmas.
SPEAKER 03 :
Violent Night, huh? I haven’t seen it. I bet mine ranks with his. I don’t know why I wasn’t really into horror, but my wife’s got me into horror, so I guess I’m a whore now. But it is Krampus. I see that everywhere now. Krampus is cool. And I think it’s good. That’s the antithesis to, like, good little boys and girls. No, uh-uh, man. You’ve been bad. You’re going to get dealt with.
SPEAKER 04 :
They have, like, a Christmas haunted house now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, they do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ve been to that. Off the Krampus or whatever. It is so demented, man. Is it really? I love it. Dude, I didn’t. I did not expect to hear that. No, seriously, when I saw that, I was like, there’s a Christmas haunted house? Like, that’s got to be something.
SPEAKER 14 :
Santa’s like all slayed and the elves are being slaughtered.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s crazy. So is that something new that just came this year? I think they’ve been out for a couple years now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, it’s been out for a couple years. Yeah, for years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, my wife now, but about seven, eight years ago, we were, yeah, nine years ago, we went to that Krampus. Man, dude, that was the best ever. I mean, it beat like any type of horror or haunted house.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s better than like actual Halloween haunted houses? Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, just because you don’t expect to see like Santa like all cracked out.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
What in the world, man? You know what I bet sells it? And you could tell me because I haven’t been to one. I never. But what I bet sells it is a haunted house is always dark. Yeah, for sure. But I bet that one is well lit.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is because there’s Christmas lights.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really?
SPEAKER 14 :
Christmas lights at all?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, totally, man. Really? Yeah. What in the world? I know what I’m doing next week now. Yeah, totally. Yeah, so I would have to say my Christmas movie is… God, man. Like… It would have to be Die Hard. Die Hard. It has to be, man. Is that a Christmas movie, though? I definitely think it is. Just like we were talking, Gremlins is a Christmas movie, and I did not know that until like three years ago. I’m like, oh, I’m going to watch Gremlins. It popped up, and I’m like, oh, what in the world? It’s a Christmas movie, dude. Gizmo was getting all jacked up with some water and stuff. Yeah, Mogwai.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe gizmos not his name, but I thought it was he named him gizmo. Oh, we gotta go wait But yeah gizmo. Yeah, I can do that thing he goes It’s a purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr purr
SPEAKER 06 :
True Daddy. What’s up, buddy? Tell us about a Christmas movie, a good one. Well, you know, I like Daddy’s Home with Mark Wahlberg.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, that’s some fun. I didn’t think about that being a Christmas movie. That’s some funny stuff. Hey, True, tell me, the part where the dog takes the dump on the ground is the funniest stuff ever, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
I like the second one, man. So is Die Hard a Christmas movie? That’s the question.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s what we’re trying to debate, because I think Die Hard is. What do you guys think?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would think it is, too. It’s a yes for me, because of the time frame that it took place.
SPEAKER 13 :
So just because it was Christmas time, it’s a Christmas movie?
SPEAKER 04 :
Truth, what makes you think it’s a Christmas movie?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, it’s happening during Christmas. It’s all, they got a lot of Christmas theme in it. And, you know, and when you, you know, it’s Christmas when you say, oh, oh, oh, I don’t have a machine gun.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a strong indicator that’s the Christmas movie. Didn’t they, hey, Truth, didn’t they make a new dish for like Christmas dinner? It’s like, it’s strawberry or cherry jello with whipped cream and it’s called the Hans Gruber.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what happened when he hit the ground.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks for calling, buddy. Thank you. So let me ask you guys this, Doc, because that’s good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is Die Hard better than the original Grinch, though? No. Not the new Grinch. You mean the cartoon Jim Carrey? Yes. No, the cartoon one. The original one.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I like the OG cartoon. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now you got me wanting to go back to, like, what was that, Frosty and Rudolph and all of that.
SPEAKER 04 :
But it’s got to be the legit Frosty where he gets the hat, dude, and he comes with it. That stuff’s legit, dude. Happy birthday.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And people call at 303-477. Tell us which Christmas movie is the best. 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 14 :
And for me, National Lampoon Christmas. Oh, so good. Buddy, I’m like Clark, man. Like, I get mad when my Christmas lights don’t work.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s Heath out on the driveway, though, with his RV. You know that, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, just filling up the, or wait, emptying the crapper. Yeah, it’s full. Wait, so do you guys decorate your house?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, let me ask you, okay, this year I’m too broke to be doing anything. What? Well, I just started my new job. That’s the only reason why. But you don’t have old? No, not this year. I’m just, you know, with a new, since I started a new career, everything is kind of old.
SPEAKER 03 :
on hold but um what about you did you decorate your new house i’m i’m i’m a loser man i’m kind of like the nightmare before christmas because i did buy that like 40 foot cat for for halloween okay that lights up and its face and it’s like hissing and stuff and all i did was put a santa hat on it and a wreath so i i converted that halloween thing into a christmas thing
SPEAKER 04 :
What about you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I decorate the house looking like Clark.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, that’s super cool. What about you? Oh, yeah, man.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I was up on that two story. I don’t know what it is. And I get older. You know, I thought it’d be all afraid of this year. I sucked it up. How many lights do you think you got on your house? I easily probably 2000 3000. Oh, snap.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Is your number bigger?
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s pretty close.
SPEAKER 04 :
And people call again at 303-477-5600. We’d like to hear about your Christmas experiences.
SPEAKER 03 :
So when you get your game up and lighting the house, it’s by the number of lights.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I just know from being a Sparky. I don’t think that that’s it because some bulbs are bigger, right, versus little.
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe your little LEDs or your big C9s or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So one person could have probably 10,000 lights where another person may have,
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s not the size of the ball, Brock. It’s the twinkle and how it shimmers.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so if you guys haven’t started your Christmas shopping yet, when do you think you’re going to start it?
SPEAKER 14 :
When’s Christmas? 25th? Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve never heard of anybody turn around and be like, hold on a sec. When is Christmas?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, a better question is, what do you think Truth is going to get?
SPEAKER 04 :
His mama. Let’s see. I think… Maybe his mama.
SPEAKER 14 :
Maybe we should have kept Truth’s daddy on.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Truth’s daddy would have definitely known. I think he’s going to get something pretty cool. And oh my goodness, look at his house. Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
people we’re seeing a house in live action on a phone here i mean that’s what you can see from 285 because what’s crazy is you can go past some people’s houses and it’s lit up i mean they’ve got decoration upon decoration you turn tune into the uh radio station for people’s broadcast music yeah that’s synchronized yeah yeah like 98.1 or something 98.1 do you guys go and drive around and look at christmas lights oh yeah yeah Yeah, Christmas. That’s a tradition.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me ask you, if you had your pick, okay, if there was a holiday you guys had to get rid of, what holiday would it be?
SPEAKER 14 :
Valentine’s. Christmas. What? What was the question? So you’re saying Valentine’s? Yeah, you know me, man. Valentine’s in the mood. She goes, re-listen to it. What about you?
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I’d probably go along with Valentine’s. That’s a Hallmark holiday. Totally. If you don’t love the person 365 days and you just try to celebrate the one, you know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Heath, what are you going with?
SPEAKER 03 :
A holiday to get rid of?
SPEAKER 04 :
Because I think all of us would say Christmas is number one. To get rid of?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, no, no, no, no. To celebrate, to keep. To celebrate, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, certainly keep Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, which holiday would you get rid of if you had to?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, in order to save Christmas? That is deep. Yeah, if we had to. To have to get rid of a holiday. If we had to save Christmas. President’s Day. Is that a holiday anybody ever celebrates?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s funny.
SPEAKER 14 :
I thought that was April Fool’s, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s funny. I think I would get rid of President’s Day. President’s Day. Because, I mean, does anybody ever say, maybe even St. Patrick’s Day. What? You haven’t had a shamrock shake? You’re crazy. Okay, so you’re saying President’s Day to save Christmas. You’re saying Valentine’s. I’m saying St. Patrick’s. Gotta go with Valentine’s. Valentine’s.
SPEAKER 13 :
You guys are mad at the love. No, I just celebrated 365. Truth.
SPEAKER 04 :
And with that being said, like Christmas, like if you could sum Christmas up in one word besides saying the word Christmas, how would you sum it up?
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably a couple of words. Children’s faces. Oh, I mean, when I see my kids just excited about Christmas and the gifts, it’s I mean, it’s it’s great. Even when I have no idea what we bought them for Christmas. Yeah. Let’s celebrate with them, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s a surprise for everybody. Dude, I love this guy, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
You don’t know when Christmas is. You don’t know what’s been bought.
SPEAKER 13 :
You don’t know if you went into debt or not.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s so funny, dude.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can you sum up Christmas in just one word or a few words?
SPEAKER 03 :
It’d probably be two words also, and it’s what the Zodiac Killer used in… What in the world? Dude, I just watched that movie. I did too, right? Oh, that’s crazy. Keep going, keep going. And it’s Christ Mass, not Christmas. It’s about Christ Mass. It’s about Jesus.
SPEAKER 04 :
What would you sum it up with?
SPEAKER 13 :
Just family.
SPEAKER 04 :
Family?
SPEAKER 13 :
Just family, joy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Happiness. Yeah, that’s that’s because at the end of the day, people like I think that’s the meaning of Christmas going all the way back to what you said. I don’t think it’s really about the wrapping paper or the ribbons or any of that cool stuff. I think it’s probably about the way people feel every day. Like this time of year, you could probably go into the mall and everybody’s happy.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, that’s why that’s why whether people believe it or not. What is it? Life imitates art or art imitates life through film and stuff like that. Things like The Grinch with Jim Carrey. Oh, yeah. Things like the Charlie Brown Christmas. These things have a moral to their story. And ultimately, it is getting rid of all of the materialism, all of the selfishness and being selfless and being in the presence of the people you love.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep, just like Cindy Lou Who said.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, well, let’s ask you this. Do you think you’re ever going to make a Christmas movie anytime soon? Oh. Oh.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’d love to, man. Kind of putting you on the spot, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, give us your best Grinch impersonation right now. Like, you’re an actor. Hey, man, you’re on set right now. Hit us with it. Let the listeners hear you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, man. I don’t know. You’re an actor, man, not us. I’m trying to think of his lines, and he says, I hate those hoes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Boxers, bags, and hoes. Dude, you sound just like them. That’s it. I’m tired of this. Come on, Max. Let’s go.
SPEAKER 13 :
There’s a little Sean Connery in there that I think I heard.
SPEAKER 04 :
That is epic. That is so epic.
SPEAKER 13 :
The Rock.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if they came to you right now and said, hey, man, we want a Christmas show, are you jumping on scene with it? Oh, yeah, buddy. Jim’s out, heat’s in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Jim’s out, heat’s in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that always something you wanted to do was a Christmas show?
SPEAKER 03 :
I like any of those. Yeah, a Christmas movie would be a good one. I’d love it.
SPEAKER 04 :
You just never had the opportunity yet?
SPEAKER 03 :
Mm-mm.
SPEAKER 04 :
Out of all the films you made, they just never called you with, hey, let’s do a Christmas?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not a single one, man. Not a single one. You might need to make some phone calls. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, yeah. For sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
If they came to you right now, if Heath was like, hey, I’m taking you on the scene to do some Christmas, are you joining it with them? Heck yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Better be some Walking Dead Christmas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Give us your best Grinch sound. Hit us with it, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, I got to try to do a good sound. Max. There was a DM, Max.
SPEAKER 13 :
Let’s hear it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s hear it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I got nothing. I don’t got the voice. I think I got the face for radio, not the voice. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I think, like, this dude’s totally built for acting, built for acting and radio and business the whole nine yards. We got to get back on track, guys. We’re having a good time. Face built for radio.
SPEAKER 14 :
so when it comes to christmas like we were talking about at the very start of the show what’s the only downfall would we all say it’s maxing out your credit cards no that’s there’s more to that some people sadly some people you know i think suicide rates are actually higher right during the time this time of year right because whether it’s the loss of People, loss of position, loss of just self-identity maybe. I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer. No, but that’s true.
SPEAKER 03 :
Things happen. Comparison is the thief of joy. And when people end up comparing their yesteryear to today and it’s not as good or when they compare themselves to others, then, yeah, it could put you in a bad position.
SPEAKER 04 :
And give us a call at 303-477-5600. I looked up something that was called holiday depression. I never even heard of it. Right? Have you guys ever heard of holiday depression?
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve never heard of it, but I’m not going to lie, I’ve experienced it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that term. I know it’s a thing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Really?
SPEAKER 03 :
Now it’s been diagnosed, my friend. There you go.
SPEAKER 13 :
Got it. What caused you to have holiday depression? When I was younger, probably in my 20s, fresh married, first kid, and then thinking I had to keep up with the Joneses and outdoing what I did the year before.
SPEAKER 14 :
So marriage gave you depression?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Well, you know, that’s the first catalyst. But I think it was just, you know, putting myself in debt and going way above and beyond and then knowing that, you know, kind of screwed myself down the road as well. So it was just the pressure of, you know, always trying to do better, do more when I just really need to spend time, quality time with those people.
SPEAKER 04 :
What about you? Have you ever experienced any kind of holiday depression?
SPEAKER 14 :
Uh, man, this is going to be the year where, you know, cause I lost my son in April. So yeah, you know, Thanksgiving was rough. So I’m hoping, uh, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is there anything that from being in that position now and having a different clarity, is there anything that helps from the outside existentially people around you that can help with the pain that you have during these holidays? Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, I hung a flag on my doorstep. You know, Jesus is the reason for the season. Isn’t that what you’re? Yeah, there you go. Tis the reason for the season. I swear. But, you know, it’s true because, like, I know that my son, you know, what he couldn’t do while having cerebral palsy. You know, he’s free, you know, and that gives me that joy and even that goal of going to heaven and such and, you know, helping our kids. So it’ll be a Merry Christmas one way or another. For sure. Yeah, I’m thankful one way or another because that’s what the Bible says to be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. In all things. Wow, because that’s exactly what you – because holiday depression is where individuals experience sadness, anxiety, loneliness, financial pressure, stress, emotional weight. Like, as fun – listen, people, as fun as Christmas is, there’s some people who it really weighs down on them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like, it’s very hard for some people. You know what movie actually – and everyone loves it. It’s A Wonderful Life. God, I love that movie, man.
SPEAKER 04 :
That movie is for real right there.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, when you’re in a business, sometimes come the holidays, you’re close to being broke as a joke because you’ve got to pay your vendors. Everything has got to be wrapped up before the end of the year in most cases. And you have to pay people. You have to pay for all your products, et cetera. And then you’ve got to get ready for tax season two, the roundup of that. I remember that one time when I watched It’s a Wonderful Life. I can relate. I can relate to George Bailey.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was like, oh, my God. You missed only one part of the equation, too, there, Andre, and that’s that during the holidays, you have to understand that all the companies that we’ve provided service for, the people we’ve provided service for, they’re preoccupied and busy, and so they are slow to pay. This is right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
So that happens too. It’s almost like a stranglehold on the Christmas of a businessman.
SPEAKER 04 :
So do you think a small business owner is affected more than like the commercialized? I mean, you know what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 03 :
Only if they aren’t prepared and haven’t gone through a Christmas before. Okay. And they didn’t learn their lesson.
SPEAKER 13 :
But there’s definitely a learning curve being a small business. And like you said, it’s a heavy time at the end of the year. Everything’s coming through. You’ve got to get all your receipts paid. And then everybody else is slow to pay at that time. And the weight of making sure that you take care of all your people is a lot as well because you want to make sure that they have what they need so they can take care of their families.
SPEAKER 04 :
So let me ask you guys this on a business note. So as small business owners, you own your business. You have to pay employees. You’ve got to expense things. How hard is it to juggle your own finances plus your company’s finances? I bet people would love to know from business owners how to juggle that at the same time. We’ll go right here.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I’d like to pretend I do a good job and I try to stack away the money because I know that I’ve been through this once or twice now that I plan for this. But when I first started, it’s a real hard learning curve.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree with Nate that it takes nuts. So you got to store up your nuts.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, well, let me ask you this. Like a squirrel. No, no, no. Like squirrels prepare all year long for the winter. So do you guys, when you’re sitting down doing your business plan or proposition, do you guys say, okay, I’m allocating this money for Christmas because I know it’s going to be slow? Or do you just wing it?
SPEAKER 03 :
I wing it and I need to stop. I need to stop.
SPEAKER 04 :
How’s it going? Talk to us.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s going real fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
How are you doing today?
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m doing good, Brock. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, good. How are you doing? So we’re sitting here telling your boys, telling us about his best Christmas shows. Tell us what one is yours.
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m not talking about shows, but if I was, I would pick It’s a Wonderful Life because I made my children watch that movie a lot. What I’m calling about is is his Christmas presents. Oh, you’re in trouble now.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re going to tell us, oh, Heath, are you asking him more?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. When he was four years old, I bought him a little piggy toy box. And he had a little miniature piano, and they would play in the bedroom songs. But the most important thing that I thought he would remember… is his red guitar.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is a very good one, Mom. How did you not remember the red guitar? Well, it was overshadowed by this blue car that I got when I was like seven or eight. Do you remember that one? Uh-huh. There was like a blue car, but yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Mom. Thank you for calling and telling us about Heath’s wonderful Christmas. Hold on, let me ask you this. What do you expect your boy to get you for Christmas?
SPEAKER 12 :
not a thing he has worked so hard and you know so much on that house i i’m just so happy it’s done so that they can have a nice christmas and they even got a tree up and I just want him to be happy for Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right on, and thank you for calling, and we really appreciate that. Thank you. You’re welcome. That’s super cool your mom called, man. That was unexpected right there. So let me ask you this. Okay, back to business. Kind of transitioning back. Should a business owner, a small business owner, should they be prepared for Christmas? Like, should they, at the start of the year, come January 2nd, start saying, hey, I’m going to plan for Christmas. I’m going to start putting something away.
SPEAKER 03 :
A diligent… And wise businessmen would. For Christmas? Or for Uncle Sam? Well, they’d store up for the whole thing. They’d be prepared for all of it. I have no business plan.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I was thinking, I don’t either. I just store up for Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re just more worried about April 16th for taxes than you are for the next. Then it makes me wonder, do businesses actually do that? Do they have a pot that they put money into just for Christmas? Like for helping people, for example, like, you know what I’m saying? There’s a lot of people that don’t have what you gentlemen have for Christmas. So I wonder if companies turn around and say, hey, we’re going to put this money aside.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don’t know about you guys, but I feel like, you know, businesses, debt is the norm. It really is. You know, you can’t do anything without debt, you know. Even your suppliers know that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Suppliers are pretty much like, okay, well, we know you’re not going to pay on the 15th, you know, 15, whatever, not 30. You know, they’re planning on it too, but as long as you keep them busy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because this would be a good topic for us to have one day, like, How does a company, like, have you men talk directly about business? How does a company know when they’re getting out of debt and they’re always in the positive? They’re receiving money, income, and they’re never going to be in debt again. When does a company get to that point?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don’t know. In a business, you’re never out of debt, in my opinion. I mean, you’re always… you’re always purchasing you’ve got to purchase your products you got to purchase your you know supplies etc i mean i’m always in debt and i love not being in debt i love you’re like making sure the credit cards are paid off anything like that personal wise but as far as the business goes i know i’m going to be in debt you know because you can’t operate a business without spending money look at amazon one of the biggest businesses in the world and they’re heavily in debt
SPEAKER 13 :
And they’re flush with billions of dollars.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would not have thought that. I thought that a business after time gets out of debt and it’s always positive income.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you need positive cash flow. Otherwise, you won’t make it. Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But you’re saying no company, regardless of the size, will ever not have any debt. Unless you’re a prostitute or something.
SPEAKER 13 :
Still got to manage your equipment.
SPEAKER 04 :
But think about Walmart, for example. Do you think Walmart has this major overhead when they make so much money?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, they finance their buildings every time they build one. They don’t just pay cash for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, okay. You don’t think they just go down and drop down cash?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, because it’s write-offs and stuff like that for them, and they need those.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, what about you, Heath?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think we’ll probably have to pick this up because we only got like a minute left.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, this would be a good topic for us to talk about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Business management.
SPEAKER 14 :
And get some of you business owners to give us a call in maybe next week or something.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and one other thing, people, Heath has given us a good idea and we want to give a shout out to Heath’s mom for calling in. 303-477-5600. We would like people to call in because Heath made a good point about helping us write our book, getting it published and things. If y’all know about that, go to our webpage or whatever media we have and kind of chime in.
SPEAKER 14 :
And don’t forget to pray for Truth Sacks. Oh, yeah, Truth. I think he has a UTI. He’s got a Christmas gift.
SPEAKER 05 :
Y’all have… Y’all have a good day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Merry Christmas. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man.
SPEAKER 09 :
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