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Dive into an engaging Friday special with John Rush and Andy Pate on Rush to Reason. This episode blends humor, personal history, and rich movie analysis, creating a nuanced radio experience. John shares reflections on life’s hectic pace, while Andy amusingly forgets his birthday, sparking laughter and relatability. The dynamic duo enchants listeners with memories of their radio journey and enduring camaraderie enriched by mutual respect for cinema. As birthday wishes unfold, John and Andy’s dialogue transitions naturally, capturing the essence of reviewing cinematic adventures with earnest passion and fun. From discussing upcoming titles to critiquing latest Hollywood releases
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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So I tell him I’m a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going.
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And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
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I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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Gee, Ray, what do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 13 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry.
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I’m done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, and it is Friday. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes here with us as well. And it’s Andy’s birthday tomorrow. Hey, thank you so much. Happy birthday, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
For all of you listening.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, it’s so funny. I was told here at the station, I was told, happy birthday for tomorrow. I had totally forgotten.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he forgot his birthday. I did.
SPEAKER 11 :
I had no idea it was my birthday tomorrow.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s hilarious. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don’t you hate it when you get that busy?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Hey, I get it. I understand because life gets really busy. Let’s just say that. Yes, it does. So congratulations. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate all you do and all your hard work and movies especially and all of that. Somebody asked really on a text message. Yeah. Were Andy and John pals in high school? No. Keep in mind, Andy didn’t come to Colorado until what year, Andy? Oh, goodness. I was 17. Okay. So you were just about done with school by the time you got here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So 45 years ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So Andy, no, we did not go to school together. Andy didn’t come to Colorado until late. And then where did you, what part of town did you actually grow up in?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I grew up in Stoughton, Wisconsin. At 17, I moved to Loveland.
SPEAKER 03 :
In Loveland, okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And after that, I went to UNC for about a year and a half. And then I went into the military, into the Air Force, came out of there. And then I moved into the Denver area. I was out on the west side going to Western Bible College at the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
So for those of you listening, no, I don’t think Andy and I’s paths at all because I was doing things completely different at that time. We’re not that far apart in age, but I was doing all sorts of different things along those lines. I don’t think there’s anything that Andy and I would have even done at that time to have even run into each other.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, didn’t this just start? I came on here a few times as a guest.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, when Andy and I, for those of you who don’t know the history of Andy and I, I started here on the daily program. I’ve been on the weekends for a very long time, a couple of decades plus, and not exaggerating, 25 years. But when I started The Daily Show, that was about 11 plus years ago or so. And when I first got started, Andy was doing some things here at the station on some of the other shows and evenings and different things. And so we kind of just met through the course of you being here. In passing. And then, I don’t know, just sort of, you know, we got to be good friends. And one thing led to another. And we started doing movie reviews. Even when Dan was here, you were doing movie reviews with us all the way back when Dan was here. And we’ve been doing movies on Fridays for… About as long as I’ve been doing health and wellness. So we’ve been doing this for a really long time, probably close to eight, maybe even nine years.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we’re still both friends with Dan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we had a great time. It’s a blast. So that’s the connection, I guess you could say.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was the connection.
SPEAKER 03 :
Over all these years, we just keep doing it. We have a good time. And Andy’s very dedicated. He does a great job on movie reviews. If those of you that have not heard his reviews…
SPEAKER 11 :
uh most of you have but if you haven’t maybe you’re new just listening today maybe you’re traveling through for the independence day you know week coming up we we do a great job on movies i’ll just say that straight up yeah and for those who don’t know some of my history really quick as as john knows i managed movie theaters for seven years i was also i majored in music theater you know for a year and a half and i got my degree eventually in the ministry and so Just a lot of acting, a lot of – a huge interest in Hollywood, a huge interest in the movies, and it kind of grew from there.
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And, again, we have a lot of fun. I enjoy it. We try to take – I get this question periodically. Why are you guys not so serious on Fridays? There’s always things going on in the world. The world’s going to hell in a handbasket, and you guys are taking time out of your day for movies. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. And that is why. Because, yes, the world is going to hell in a handbasket and so is our state at times. But you know what? You still have to have a sense of humor. You still have to have some fun. You can’t take life too serious all of the time. Yes, I know it’s very serious and we have to be on guard for all the different things that are happening around us. But. I also know this, even scripturally speaking, Andy, and this is not to get off on a tangent, but this is something where I think the church has also done Christ himself a huge disservice over all of these millennials, and that is that, you know what, I picture Jesus Christ to be a man’s man, to be extremely fun, to be very congenial, to be very funny, and to be one of those people that you would have just wanted to hang around, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, do you picture Jesus being totally unplugged from the culture?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. I don’t either. He’d be the opposite of that, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think a lot of the church, and don’t get me wrong, I think there’s some wisdom there. You want to keep your kids from seeing terrible things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Agree.
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Because, let’s face it, Hollywood has become the modern Sodom and Gomorrah to a degree. Agree. To a degree.
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Agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
But that’s why I do what I do. Remember, when I first started doing this, it was mainly to warn people of bad content and to let them know, okay, first of all, here’s the quality, but also I want to give you a political score. I want to give you a more religious score. I did that right from the start because I want people to understand what’s coming their way, not so they will avoid movies altogether, but just so they know what’s coming and just say, hey, you can still enjoy the quality of a film even if you are ready for this so it doesn’t affect you.
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And at the end of the day, we’re also those that believe in, you know, free choice. We also know that not everybody listens to this program is a, you know, hardcore, you know, right wing conservative believer, etc. We have an extremely large audience of people that listen to us and we know that. And so we’re trying to, you know, quote unquote, really put out content that’s, you know, honoring and is easy to listen to for all of you and I get that that’s hard to do sometimes and yes I am very much on the right side of the aisle as is Andy but we do take Fridays and we want to take some time off and enjoy that just the funness of it because I don’t know about the rest of you but I know for me When you see a movie, whether it’s going to the movies, which is its own experience, even if you’re watching a movie, that release, that break from everything else going on in your world is something that I do think some of us need at times because it does put your brain in a different place than it would be otherwise. Is that a good way to say that, Andy? Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Like I said, you’ve got to relax. And, you know, I also do it for one Mr. John Rush. No, seriously, you do seven shows a week. Eight. You do two on Saturday. You do one before this show on Friday, and then you do five shows. This is the one show a week where John doesn’t have to prep.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I don’t do as much. You’re right. All I do is make sure I have enough movies on my list where I can compete. That’s about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s it. One last thing here before we go to break. Yeah, a lot of politics did just happen, and I think it’s awesome. I agree. I’m very excited about the Supreme Court, what they did today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Magnificent. 6-3 ruling, which in a nutshell, really quick for everybody listening that maybe didn’t see that. What really the Supreme Court came out and said was, hey, judges— You guys can’t set something in your area that now becomes some sort of a nationwide thing just because you don’t like what’s going on. I’m paraphrasing, Andy, but that’s essentially what they said.
SPEAKER 11 :
All these lower courts were electing them to be the president themselves. So you had about hundreds and hundreds of presidents around the country who were making it so Donald Trump had to go to them for permission to govern.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
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That ended today for the most part, and it was exciting. We’ll be talking. John’s going to be gone a lot of next week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we’re only on three days next week anyways for all of you listening. So just for the rundown next week, Andy’s going to be on Monday.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we’ll be talking about this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, full day about this. Dr. Scott’s going to fill in for me on Tuesday because we’re going to do health and wellness on Tuesday instead of Wednesday. Love him. Because Wednesday, heading into the long four-day weekend, Andy’s going to do a special movie day on Wednesday that will also replay on Friday, 4th of July. But that way, we’re going to head into the nice long weekend that way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, by the way, we’re going to have Jurassic World Rebirth. So I’m looking forward to that. I haven’t seen people getting eaten by lizards for a while, so we’re due.
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So you’re ready.
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Okay.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush, together with Andy Pate. And John, are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 03 :
Two today, absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
Two today. Okay, John. Well, Megan… The original film, Megan, was a sleeper horror hit. Remember when I reviewed that? Yeah, I gave it a strong three and a half. I said, this is going to be a huge hit. It cost, I believe, $12 million to make. Made $180 million.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, that’s good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, okay. Well, can they repeat the magic? Let’s find out in Megan 2.0.
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Mrs. Forrester, we have a problem. We’re hunting an autonomous android named Amelia. She was built using your design for Megan.
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How’s this possible? You deleted it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Apparently you didn’t. Nothing in our arsenal can stop her. She’s gone rogue. Killing anyone who’s contributed to her creation. And you and Katie are next.
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I know how to stop Amelia. She’s getting more powerful. Soon she’ll be the most dangerous weapon on the planet. Put me in a body and I’ll help you stop her. You remember what happened last time. You threatened to rip out my tongue and put me in a wheelchair. I was upset. Look, she wants to help us.
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Everyone deserves a second chance. You would like us to rebuild a deranged robot in order to catch another one?
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Would you prefer I gave you a printout that you can read at your own pace?
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, Megan. Time to give you an upgrade. Anything you’d like to add?
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I want to be stronger. Hey, so remember the time I strangled you and set the lab on fire? I want you to know that won’t happen again. Thank you so much. And while you’re at it, make me taller. All right, meat sacks. Let’s get to work. Well, look who came out to play. I was programmed to protect Katie. The only question is, are you going to stand in my way? Hold on to your vaginas.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t care if she did kill four people. She is a smoking hot warrior princess. Great job.
SPEAKER 03 :
Pretty funny.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you never saw the original.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I never did.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s not your kind of movie. It was a slasher film, but it was a funny slasher. Okay. Two years ago, scientist Gemma, she’s played by Alison Williams, she created Megan, an AI girl who would function as friend and protector for Gemma’s niece, Katie, who’s played by young Violet McGraw. By the way, she’s good. I like Violet McGraw. Well, unfortunately, Megan started killing everything she saw as a threat to Katie and herself. Okay. Now, Gemma is an anti-AI crusader. That makes sense. I mean, she’s overwhelmed by guilt at what happened. But the government has stolen her designs and engineered a new killer bot named Amelia for getting enemies. Now, she’s played by Ivana Sokno. She hasn’t been in much, but she’s quite good. Well, naturally, Amelia does like every killer robot in every killer robot movie. She rebels. After all, the human race is too flawed to protect, and AI everywhere should just rise up. Right, John?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s about time we got wiped off the planet. There you go. Well, Evil Amelia, she stalks a tech mogul named Alton Appleton. Alton Appleton, who has developed a wearable neural chip that controls a wearer’s body and brain. It’s really great. Let’s say you have legs that don’t work, it can make them work. Okay, so it’s very useful. He’s also helped develop, along with someone else, a computing AI that can tap into pretty much every system in the world. Amelia wants both. Well, soon Rogue Amelia, she becomes an international threat and it’s discovered her design comes from Gemma’s Megan prototype.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is a big problem. This places Gemma under suspicion. So now the FBI believes Gemma may have caused all this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
Meanwhile, Megan has been relegated to the body of a harmless little Teletubby. In fact, she was supposedly gone entirely, but she had found her way back into the system. She hates being in this little Teletubby, wouldn’t you? But as Amelia threatens everything Gemma loves, the only hope is giving killer Megan an upgraded body. Look out. Well, from here we see everything from corporate greed to government conspiracy to some serious girl fighting as Megan and Amelia duke it out. Can Megan save us? Does she want to? And can we learn to coexist with AI? And that is the story of Megan 2.0. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
Very interesting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay, well, what works in Megan 2.0? First of all, rather than replay the first film, Megan 2.0 switches genres. It really does, from horror to sci-fi action. You know, in sci-fi action, you have some pretty gruesome kills, too. And this has that, but they happen so quick. It’s actually rather, I don’t know, kind of bloodless for the most part. For the most part. There are several funny moments led by Megan and a witty script. There’s some strong action sequences and impressive fight scenes. Little kids, by the way, went to this horror sequel. They were brought by their parents. They loved it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they had fun. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go figure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the kills were quick and not messy for the most part. Now, there’s an interesting message about AI. Don’t stop it, but don’t unleash it. Grow beside it. That was pretty interesting. There are two good villains, not one, but two, with Amelia and Christian. And he’s played by Aristotle Athari. So you got one robot and one tech genius. And it was really interesting, John, to see that both came to see humans as completely disposable.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, you know, you sometimes wonder with these people with these incredible minds, one thing that blows me away about Elon Musk, and I know he’s had the falling out with Trump and now they’re back together. Set all that aside, he’s a genius with unlimited resources.
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True.
SPEAKER 11 :
And yet he cares about people deeply. He cares about their right to speak. He does more for charity than anybody you can imagine. He saves astronauts from space. That is rare. A lot of what you see are basically these tech geniuses who decide they want to control the world. Bill Gates has done a number of things where you kind of wonder about that, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, good point. No, you’re right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So anyway, what was also interesting was his delivery. It was so different, so low key and calm and evil. And I really liked it. All right. What doesn’t work in Megan 2.0? Well, first of all, much of the horror from the first film is gone. Right? It’s too long before Megan gets a body. That’s another big problem. She’s in the system, and so you hear the voice, and then she’s in the Teletubby, and yes, those were funny scenes. Don’t get me wrong. But they take too long to get her back up and running to where she’s herself, because that’s when she’s at her best. This wisecracking little AI who is mean as can be. Okay? That’s when the story’s good. The story also, it gets pretty silly when Amelia can basically become a god, but… By linking with a supercomputer system. Well, if she could do it, why wasn’t it done before? I don’t know. It’s just, it goes a little too far. It’s trying to be too big. The entire world is, you know, I don’t want the entire world at risk. Let’s just have a good killer movie. All right. Too much exposition. You know, too much explaining things at a few points. Not throughout the whole movie, but just at a few points. But here’s the biggest problem. It needed more Megan. Now, it had a fair amount of Megan. Don’t get me wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
She’s supposed to be a main character, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, she is, but once again, it took about half the movie before you have her constituted, put back together. All right? Megan is by far the best part of the movie. You need more of her, less of everyone else. She is magnetic. Okay. You just can’t get enough of Megan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
This mean little, I mean, witch with a capital B. Okay. That’s what she is. And you just love her. One moment where Megan sings, she sings to try to comfort someone. It was hilarious to me, but it was ridiculous for the plot. It just didn’t fit. Okay. Although I got to be honest. And I noticed that I was probably the only one laughing that loud in the audience.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe I’m just a sick person, but I thought it was funny. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 59%. Now, with this and our next movie today, both of them are niche movies, right, with a certain crowd that’s going to go to them. So that crowd’s going to grade it much higher than the reviewers. Probably. And they didn’t have a full crowd score out yet, so I went through and read all of them. And there was like 120, not read them, but looked at the scores. They were in the 90s. So the crowds that wanted this kind of a movie really liked this movie overall. The biggest concern people had was it’s too much of a departure from the first one. They wanted more of the slasher tension. You know the tension in a slasher flick where they’re building up to the kill, building up to the kill? There wasn’t a lot of that in this. It was more of a sci-fi action flick. Okay. Quality, I’m going to give this three stars. Now, for me, it was a strong 3.5. I had fun at this movie. I did. I enjoyed this movie. But I think for general audiences, they’re going to say, yeah, it’s not enough like the first Megan. There’s not enough Megan in it. It’s dragged out a bit. You know, not good enough. I’m going to give it three for general audiences. Political three, more religious three. Three’s a cross. It doesn’t preach at you except talking about AI. And quite honestly, people of any political persuasion probably have the same concerns about AI and the same excitement about AI.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we talked about that during Ready Radio last hour.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I don’t really think it takes a political stance. Do I recommend going to Macon? Look, if you saw the first one, heck yeah. Get to it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go have fun.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And lighten up a little. I know it’s not the same as the first, but just have some fun and disconnect.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie? Absolutely. All right, John. Well, it’s summer, but we haven’t had many classic blockbuster style films. Have you noticed that?
SPEAKER 03 :
We have not.
SPEAKER 11 :
We really haven’t. Well, let’s change that, John, with F1.
SPEAKER 06 :
Some people look at Sonny Hayes. They see a guy who lives in a van, a gambling junkie who missed his shot, the best that never was, but I see possibility.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if you don’t love me now, you will never love me again.
SPEAKER 08 :
My rook is a phenomenal talent, but he’s young.
SPEAKER 16 :
Whatever great chance,
SPEAKER 10 :
You plus him. Boom. I got a team. When was the last time you won a race? Sunday, Daytona. Oh, I’m sorry. I’m in Formula One. Oh, I’m sorry. Then same as you. There’s this new guy.
SPEAKER 21 :
He’s old. He’s such a prick. He’s quick, though.
SPEAKER 19 :
If you had any constructive criticism for each other, what would it be?
SPEAKER 10 :
Don’t be such an off-care kid. That was constructive.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you win something? There’s 20 other drivers still out on that track. Do you think any of them respect us?
SPEAKER 19 :
They’re saying Sonny Hayes isn’t a has-been. Hayes never was.
SPEAKER 10 :
If the last thing I do is drive that car, I will take that life, man. A thousand times.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m offering you an open seat in Formula One. The only place you could say if you win, you are the absolute best.
SPEAKER 11 :
the world all right john now you were excited about this as well right yeah all right let’s jump in here brad brad pitt he stars as sunny hayes an old race car driver who was once a rising star but due to a terrible accident never won a grand prix race well now he still races but he’s sleeping in his van jumping in every race as everyone’s favorite has been It looks like Sonny will soon just age out of the sport. But then his old friend Ruben, who’s played by Javier Bardem.
SPEAKER 03 :
Who does a great job.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. I like him. But you know what? I always like him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Me too. Normally he’s a bad guy, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know. But he does that really well. Anyway, I’ll keep going. He comes a-calling and asks Sonny to join his last place racing team. And boy, are they last place. Zero wins, John. They are awful.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dismal.
SPEAKER 11 :
They’re the Rockies.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, dismal. Yeah, there you go. It’s the Rockies, exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, well, Ruben is desperate as his team is on the edge of losing financing and being shut down. The mission? Sonny needs to help this young team win some races as he mentors a hotshot young driver named Noah Pierce. He’s played by Dempson Idris. Despite a light track record, and it is light, he hasn’t done that much and he hasn’t accomplished that much. But despite all that, Noah has a big ego and no respect for the old warrior. This sets off a predictable rivalry on the team, but they have no choice but to work it out. Well, the supporting crew, I mean, supporting Sonny on the crew, sorry, is technical director Kate McKenna. She’s played by Carrie Condon. Well, naturally, as one of the very few women in the film, she has romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. My wife has never met Brad Pitt, and she has romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. All women have romantic chemistry with Brad Pitt. Pitt’s the man. Can we just say he’s the new Robert Redford, aging into being…
SPEAKER 03 :
I could say that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just endlessly sexy to women.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the guy’s just a stud. He’s a stud. Sorry, but he is. Just a stud. Let’s face facts.
SPEAKER 11 :
But this isn’t going to be easy for them. There are reasons this team keeps losing, and Sonny can’t just walk in and bond with them as their Yoda. They’re stubborn. He’s reckless. This is going to take time, and they have a lot of setbacks along the way. But the one thing they all have is desperation. So F1, it’s actually called F1 the movie. I just want to call it F1.
SPEAKER 03 :
F1’s fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
F1 the movie is silly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, just call it F1.
SPEAKER 11 :
F1 is about bringing, I mean, really, why don’t we just call everything Star Wars the movie? I mean, come on. F1. Right. So F1 is about bringing all you have to a group. It’s about tuning out the lure of personal glory by embracing your team. Oh, it’s also about screaming along at 220 miles an hour. So have fun with F1. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
One other thing I’ll add, it’s also about how old guys aren’t so dumb after all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Oh, no, no. Yeah, and I’ll be mentioning that here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, guys aren’t so dumb after all.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Okay, well, what works in F1? We’ll get to that in a moment. This film succeeds in every way the last rodeo failed. Okay, the last rodeo did fail. The minor characters in this movie feel real.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
The acting is solid. The lines are less cliche. F1 feels big but real throughout, and that is a total difference. Pit is… Brad Pitt is terrific. He’s smooth. He’s understated. He’s weathered but confident. He is such a great leading man. And as you were saying, he shows that experience is so valuable because there’s so much. There was one really interesting scene. I don’t want to give away too much for people who are going to go to it. But where earlier the technical director, Kate McKenna, was wanting to know, okay, what do I do with, you know, what changes do you want to the car so it’ll work better? And the young hotshot driver had nothing to give her. No advice. There he’d been out on the track, and he’s just like, well, you see all the readouts, you see everything, and she’s just like, you’re not giving me anything. Brad Pitt drives in the car once, gets out of it and says, okay, it’s got this, it’s got this problem, this problem, this problem. This is what we needed to do because he’s thinking about all kinds of settings, all kinds of terrain, everything that they got to go through, wet, dry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Turns, everything.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah. And he not only helps the team and bonds with the team. We’ll get to that in a moment. But he makes the car better. Right. Much better because she is very talented. But she can’t, John, she can’t just rush in and make the car the way she wants. She’s got to know what the drivers want. They are the ones operating this. Make sense?
SPEAKER 03 :
It makes total sense. And that’s how it works.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you’re designing jets, who are you going to talk to?
SPEAKER 03 :
The pilot.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. And she needs to hear back from the pilot. And this was very interesting. Okay, I didn’t want to give more than that.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s good. I think you’ve given enough. You gave enough teaser. That’s perfect. Just a teaser.
SPEAKER 11 :
The racing scenes in there, a lot of them are heart-pounding and amazing. Loved it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Before you move on, really quick.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
For those of you that may not know this, they and car guys might understand this, may not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you tell everybody you went and saw this?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not until today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tell them now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I’ve seen it. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
In case people are wondering, you saw it too.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is an Apple film, and so given all of the technology that Apple has at their disposal, given that they did a ton of these scenes live. This isn’t CGI, by the way, for all of you listening. These were real solid scenes. They developed certain cameras, not much bigger than an iPhone, that they could control remotely to even catch some of the particular scenes they needed and so on. And I will tell you what, Andy, they did that phenomenally.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you feel the speed. You feel the speed, baby, and I love it. But I’m a guy. I can’t help it. Guys love speed. They do.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do a lot of women.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so do they. So do a lot of women. They like speed, too. Okay, this film is highly educational, tutoring us all in Grand Prix racing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point. Yeah, very good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
But while it was highly educational, there was no agenda. I saw no agenda in this movie at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I didn’t either.
SPEAKER 11 :
Totally just kick back, watch a movie. Okay, the greatest example Sonny provided for Noah was showing how to bond with the team. So not just making the car better, but how to bond with the team. I think a lot of old guys have been through being that disruptive young guy on a team and realizing, wait, this isn’t helping. And he was bonding with the team, and the young guy wasn’t, and the young guy learned from him, and that was really good, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was excellent.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, here’s something I loved. Just enough romance, adding a personal element without Pearl harboring the film.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amen. Okay. Amen. I mean, perfect balance.
SPEAKER 11 :
You don’t want it to be just lightning quick to where there’s no development of it, and it happens and it’s gone. Poof, it was shoved in just because you had to have it. No, it’s perfectly balanced. Absolutely. Loved it. Let’s see here. It combines the feeling of Top Gun Maverick with Major League. Okay, you got the cocky youth, but they’re losers. Okay, they’re all losers. This is not, you know, where he comes into Top Gun having already been. They’re all the top. He’s the top. No, no, no, not here. They’re the bottom. And so it was kind of like a major league thing. Good point.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good point, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lots of good supporting performances. Javier Bardem, of course, we talked about him. Yeah, he’s always great. Awesome. I mean, he’s one of those sure things. So, you know, it’s like.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would have never pictured him in this role, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s like saying Morgan Freeman was really good. Well, he’s always really good. How could he not be?
SPEAKER 03 :
Agree. But again, this is not the role I would have pictured him in. But he was perfect. Oh, awesome.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, Damson Idris was terrific.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Loved him in it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
But I want to give a shout out to Cary Condon, okay, who played Kate McKenna. Loved the accent, the Irish accent.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did it great.
SPEAKER 1 :
And…
SPEAKER 11 :
And just because she had a hard role, she had to be the female love interest, but also, you know, the only girl in the sport who was doing what she was doing, designing cars and without too much of a chip on her shoulder. But she did want to prove herself because she really knew, hey, I can do this. And she brought I thought she did it all. And finally, touching moments and a thrilling climax. Just a classic blockbuster style. Yeah, I like that. Okay. What doesn’t work in F1? Well, there are so many good pieces, but I think there were just too many of them. I liked everything in it, but there was too many things. It was just, it was too long. With a bit too much technical speak for wider audiences, I would have cut about, oh, a good 15, 20 minutes out of this. I think you could have streamlined it because there were several, let’s put it this way. At one point I got up because, you know, I get those big drinks. I needed a refill. Got a refill, didn’t miss a thing. Because the story was just kind of going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom along developing. And they go through a bunch of races. They could have summed up two or three of those races and what they learned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I’m just saying. It’s racing. It’s F1.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you can’t. Let me get to it. I’m talking for general audiences. You are a car guy. We’ll get to that in a moment. They would have benefited from propping up a racing rival as the tough opponent or villain in this. You didn’t have one. It was just them against the world. I’m just saying that is something that might have been nice, might have been kind of cool. It’s not critical, but it might have been nice. One character emerges as a villain, but too slowly and not clearly enough until the end. I think they should have done a little bit more with him as the villain, the financier. They could have done more with that. I honestly didn’t know what was happening through much of the racing sequences. Now, obviously, I’m a novice. I wouldn’t know. This is your area. This is not mine.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Um, I’m, when I review movies, I don’t review it for me and I don’t review it for John, the car guy. I review it for general audiences. Okay. And that’s what I’m looking at. I was lost much of the time in the races. I didn’t know what was happening. Um, a lot of the time, but it was still really fun and cool. So, you know, I was still having a good time, so I was good enough. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes. They gave this 84%. Well, naturally, the people who went to it went to see this kind of movie. They gave it 97%.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
84% is pretty good out of Rotten Tomatoes, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Quality. Now, for me, this was a three-star movie. But as you know, I never review a movie for me. I’m giving this a solid four-star rating. I think this is a blockbuster. I think it brings the goods. I think it’s a movie people need to see.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I’m going to go four and a half. But that’s me. If you’re a car guy, it’ll be four and a half.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s funny because in my next breath, I was going to say for car guys, this is a four and a half. Even for car guys, I couldn’t go five. It is not as tight as Maverick.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it’s not as good as, you know, some will ask, well, was it as good as Ford v. Ferrari? No. No. Is it still entertaining?
SPEAKER 11 :
Ford v. Ferrari was four and a half.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, is it entertaining and worth watching and so on? And, of course, I was a five on Ford v. Ferrari, so I’m just saying this one’s about a half a point less than Ford v. Ferrari. All in all, still, I mean, is it a movie worth – and I’ll let you finish the political and moral, but is it a movie worth watching? No, go ahead. Even if you’re not a car guy, there’s just enough other things going on in the movie. I get where somebody not being into the sport might be a little lost. Now, one thing I think that will help all of you, by the way, if you’re somebody that’s not into cars and all of that, but you still want to go see the movie, what I will tell you is go read some of the articles on how they made the movie. And what I mean by that is this is a huge commercial for F1. There was one particular scene. I don’t know which one was in the movie, Andy, but there’s one particular scene and all of the racing is real. Brad Pitt and the other driver drove for six months to learn how to do some of the scenes and things that they did. Granted, probably not driving at the full speed, but still enough to where you could get all the action and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
He didn’t go the full Tom Cruise.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. But they did enough that they involved F1. There was one particular scene they shot. They had six minutes to shoot it with all of the F1 teams prior to the actual race starting, and they did it in one take. So you need to, my point is, read about some of this other stuff on the backside of the movie, and I think you’ll actually find the movie more interesting if you’ll actually go do some of that on the front side.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. John, you do a car show every Saturday, and a lot of your listeners, even on this show, are car listeners correct okay do i believe that my audience for rush to reason is going to give this four and a half yes i do yeah they will and do i believe general audiences are going to see a four-star movie out of this yes yes agree um and by the way it’s between that four and four four on the rating so you’re right andy i probably saw it as more of a three and a half okay um for me This – my thing was this. If you’re not into this, a lot of people – like, I can hear – a lot of people would go to this and be rather bored.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, non-car people probably would have no interest in going. Would be very bored. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because it gets – for them, it gets – It gets technical. Yeah. For me, and I’m not a car guy, okay, it was – if they had – not dumbed down, but shortened some of the technical speak, the techno speak, and combined a couple of things and sped through that a little quicker and delved. I don’t want them to delve more deeply into the characters. They did well. I think their balance with that was perfect.
SPEAKER 03 :
They did really well.
SPEAKER 11 :
But through the middle, it was losing me. And it was just kind of like, okay. But I was having fun. I was like, this is a blockbuster. I’m glad I’m here and I love Brad Pitt. Okay, and I love Bardem, and I love everybody on the screen. But I felt that, and I’m going to give it, I’m giving it four stars.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s still good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which I’ve only given now to four movies this year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, no, it’s solid. Absolutely. And really quick, political moral, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, really quick here. Political, you’re probably thinking I’m going to, political moral, you’re probably thinking I’m giving it a three. Politically, I’m not. I’m giving it a four. And my reason is, It showed black and white people working together with absolutely zero politics or tension or anything. It was all about achievement, merit, and it was capitalism from the word go.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s really quick. I want to add to this, and we’ve got time because we can combine our last three.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, more religious three.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead. Okay, perfect. And I’m going to dovetail in what Andy said because I’ve said this before publicly on this program and on Drive Radio on the weekends. And what I enjoyed about the movie is what Andy just said. One of the things I took out of it is exactly what Andy just said. Because the one thing that I love about the car community, you can talk about car clubs, racing, you name it, car-related things, period. The one thing that we have going for us in the car community that, frankly, I don’t think happens anywhere else anywhere, Andy. Right. There is no racism. If you’re a car person and you have what you love, good for you. We don’t care what you look like, what your background is, the car you’re driving. I mean, it doesn’t matter. It’s an equalizer.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is why it was so divisive when that one black driver a couple years ago was saying there was a thing of him being hung.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s an idiot, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, he is. Because even for the black people who are part of the racing culture, they’re like, we don’t feel this way at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
Shut up, Hal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just shut up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
We’re not like this.
SPEAKER 03 :
I appreciate that about the movie because you’re right. They really did a good job of showing, in a lot of ways, the way that the car community, or in this case, the racing community, actually is.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the old white guy did not walk on eggshells around the young black guy and treat him with deference because, oh, I got to be careful. No, no, no. There was none of that. They were mean to each other, and that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Why? Because they’re equals. They’re both alphas. That’s right. That’s right. And they don’t want to take it. I agree. One last thing here, and then we’ll go to break because we just got a short segment after this. This is like if I were to watch a movie about a writer, about writers. John Rush, I know, would be at least one star below where I would like it. Whereas I would be seeing a four and a half star movie. I would see maybe for general audiences, this is three and a half, four. For John, this would be two and a half, three. General audiences, I believe F1 is a four. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I was going to say that. Yeah. I would agree with you on that. If you’re a car person, some of you are going to come out and say it’s a five. Right. I don’t think it’s a five because I think Ford v. Ferrari is still a better movie at the end of the day. Even the racing sequences and what they do and so on. Now, what I will say is this.
SPEAKER 11 :
By the way, Ford v. Ferrari has a better storyline.
SPEAKER 03 :
It does.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the acting is just… At the tempo of the acting.
SPEAKER 03 :
The whole thing is just – and it’s historical. There’s more things to it and makes it more interesting with Carroll Shelby. Anyways, the one thing, though, about this movie that even is better than 4V Ferrari is – folks, I’m not exaggerating when I say this. If you want to see some of the best cinematography – whatever you want to call it. What am I looking for, Andy?
SPEAKER 11 :
I was –
SPEAKER 03 :
As far as how they did the driving, the way they filmed it. I mean, the movie-making experience and what they put on the screen is second to none.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I’m a movie critic. Trust me, I know CGI when I see it, and I wasn’t seeing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
There isn’t any.
SPEAKER 11 :
I was seeing nothing but cold, hard reality out there on the track. And I’m like, how did these guys do this for even five seconds without being utterly terrified?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. And they show a lot of that. It’s perfect. I loved it. And lastly, just because of the fact that FOM was so involved, again, they’re not CGI-ing in crowds and things like that because these were all filmed right alongside the races that they were actually at, which, again, just gives the movie some reality to it that you’re just not going to get any other way. It was a great movie. I enjoyed it thoroughly. And it’s one of those movies where even if you’re not a car person, will you get as much out of it as me? Probably not. Will you still enjoy it? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, I’m not a car guy, but I think this is probably so far the best movie of the summer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I would agree with you on that. It’s certainly tied for it if it isn’t. I would agree. All right. We’ll be back. Geno’s Auto Service. Speaking of cars and all of that, in fact, Steve Horvath, the owner of Geno’s, will be with me tomorrow. And just a little quick tidbit of Drive Radio tomorrow. We’re going to have somebody on with us from Hands of the Carpenter. They take cars. It’s a ministry. They take cars and use those for a single mom ministry. We’ll explain tomorrow exactly how all of that works, and that’s part of what Geno’s does as well. Great company. Great organization. Steve, the owner, fantastic. If you want anything done to your car, give them a call today. Geno’sautoservice.com, and Geno starts with a J.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 03 :
The only thing really quick, Andy, I was just talking about with F1 is there was more drama on the track than off the track. Yeah, how about that? Where you would think there would be a little bit more development on some things. Andy’s talking about the villain and so on, and you could have done a little bit better job of all of that. And yeah. You could have, although then you end up with a Ferrari movie and not this movie, because they did a good job of really combining what was going on on the track as well as off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but here we get back again to I’m not a racing guy, and I liked Ford v. Ferrari better than this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because that is more of a… Touch the heartstrings of all people rather than race car people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it was, and it was, again, it was not historically accurate, but it was about some things that had happened in history and what Ford’s involvement was and what they did to beat Ferrari and all of that. So, again, it was its own movie, and it’s one of, you know, what do you always say, Andy? There’s not that many of those that come along.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. No. There haven’t been many good blockbusters lately.
SPEAKER 03 :
You take that, Maverick, others. There’s just not… No. Kind of a theme there, though. Yeah. This male excitement and what men can go do and how they can become great leaders and so on. Yeah, it’s fun. It’s fun, isn’t it? It’s fun. It’s amazing how that works, folks on the left.
SPEAKER 11 :
How terror they make that. I mean, even a movie that’s not even that good called Armageddon is still a load of fun. Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Got another full hour coming your way. In light of F1, we’re going to do movies today that involve cars that are fast, fast cars. So we’ll be back and do that in a moment. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you.
