Dive into the world of movies with Andy Pate as he leads a spirited conversation about the current state of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. With guest Tanner Cole, they explore how shifts in character dynamics have impacted the franchise, offering insightful critiques. Interwoven with humorous anecdotes and reflective insights on celebrating Memorial Day, this episode delivers a perfect balance of entertainment and thoughtful discussion on the values that shape our experiences.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I’m a pro, Jack. And who do you think they give you? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Pate.
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I think you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 12 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I’ve acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 01 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 09 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I’m done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 19 :
Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And I’m your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush, who is taking this wonderful weekend off. He will be back, I believe, next Wednesday. Am I correct there, Charlie? Yes, I am. And I’m joined once again by Mr. Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. That’s right. You are nothing like Luke Cashman, I want you to know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good to know.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, if you could have grown a beard beforehand, it really would have worked.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, if that happens, we have serious issues.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wouldn’t have been good for the marriage, would have been great for the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER 19 :
I just want you to know. Okay, now before we jump in, we are, of course, going into which weekend? Memorial Day weekend. And for those, some people get a little bit confused. I am a veteran of the Air Force, as some may know. Okay. Okay. No, I did not drop bombs. I was actually trained. I was ready to go into combat. They almost deployed me to the Middle East, and they called me back right at the last second because they wanted to win.
SPEAKER 04 :
They wanted you to direct the film Warfare.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they were. Well, you know, if I were dropping the bombs, they’d be afraid I’d hit the wrong side or something because I am colorblind and that would be really difficult for me. So, yeah, I did not go. For those who don’t know, Veterans Day, of course, celebrates all veterans who serve in the military. And yes, we are very grateful for that. And we all love it when people say thank you for your service. We do not tire of it. We love that people show that kind of honor and respect. I don’t know about honor, but certainly respect because we worked hard and we did it for a wonderful country. And Memorial Day, for those who don’t know, of course, it’s in Memorial. So it’s celebrating those who gave their lives, which I never did. Of course, that’s why I’m here. These are the people who laid it all on the line, folks, so that we could live the American dream. So a lot of people always ask me, they say, well, what do I do on Memorial Day? I’ve had people ask me this. And they’re like, should we be somber? And yeah, I think taking a few moments and remembering, maybe going to, you know, see the headstones, maybe going and remembering those who laid down their lives for everything that you could have. But understand this. They gave their lives so you could live the American dream. So live it. Have fun this weekend also. Have the barbecues. Go hiking. Do whatever you do with your family. Live the American dream for which they died. Because that is exactly what they would want for you. But in doing so, always remember those who made it possible. Sound fair?
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds great.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Folks, we’re going to have a fun day today because we have two big movies. Oh, my gosh. It’s blockbuster season, and we’re going to be opening with Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. We’ll be doing that coming up next. Oh, wait. And after that, Lilo and Stitch, which actually is going to be the bigger movie this weekend. I was at Lilo and Stitch last night, and oh, my gosh. Kids everywhere. And I mean kids everywhere wearing the little Lilo hats, the Stitch hats, and all carrying the little fuzzies and going around. Oh my gosh. I knew it was big. Did you know it was this big?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, when I was growing up, that was a big movie. It’s one of my favorite Disney movies, so I’m not shocked. And it looks decent. The live action, I guess you’d call it? Animated live action?
SPEAKER 19 :
It’s another live action animated where they basically mix live action and CGI, and so they’re taking a classic cartoon and bringing it forward. Disney has done this with many, so we always worry, will they wreck another one, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
True.
SPEAKER 19 :
They do not have a good track record.
SPEAKER 04 :
Have they ever made a remake that was good?
SPEAKER 19 :
Jungle Book I thought was pretty good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, it’s been more miss than hit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Snow White was fantastic.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it’s been more miss than hit. And by the way, I just heard one little entertainment note. The next two Avengers movies, which were going to be released… Next May and the May after that have been pushed back, both of them. So they’ve been pushed back each six, seven months to December of 2026 and December of 2027. Before we go to break, I want to ask both of you, just be honest, okay? With the characters that they have right now in place, are you looking forward to an Avengers movie?
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
You’re not. And what’s missing?
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s hardly any humor in these anymore.
SPEAKER 19 :
Or when there is, it’s forced, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and the last one that we saw didn’t have good chemistry amongst the characters either.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was really odd.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they’ve gotten rid of so many of the… Go ahead, Charlie. Charlie says it seems very dark. He’s right. They’ve gotten darker, haven’t they?
SPEAKER 04 :
I haven’t watched any Marvel since Endgame.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, what does that say?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they killed my favorite character, Robert Downey Jr.’ ‘s Iron Man, and then someone else died. And, I mean, once I saw The Black Panther, I didn’t really like that movie in the first place, but it just kept seeming to get a little too LGBTQ positive. It was. We need to include every race. get rid of all the white people, let’s bring in every other race and every other gender possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, they did go through and, you know, you and I, we talked about it once before on the show with me, you and Luke, and I actually walked through all the white male heroes in Marvel who they have now replaced with something else. And I mean, it’s staggering. It’s like a dozen major names that have all been replaced, replaced, replaced. Every single one has been replaced either with a woman, with a person of color, with a woman of color, with a whatever. I have no idea. And it’s just like, look, guys, I don’t thirst to see white men on the screen. It doesn’t matter to me. OK, but obviously they want to not. See white men on the screen and it’s hurting them because here’s what they’re getting rid of. Obviously, Tony Stark and he was the center of the Marvel Universe. Let’s be honest. He had the personality. OK, you got Thor. Now he’s he’s obviously being replaced by the girl that he’s rearing.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t even know who that is. That’s how bad it is.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. You’ve got what’s his name from Guardians of the Galaxy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Chris Pratt. Pratt.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. OK, his character gone.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anthony Mackie took Chris Evans spot and they could have they coexisted for years.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, there was no reason to do that. Chris Evans was a terrific Captain America, and I love Anthony Mackie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he’s great.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it just didn’t work. But that’s just a sampling. I could keep going on and on and on and on and on. They decided there’s one kind of person we want to get rid of. And the thing is this. You shouldn’t get rid of anybody. Okay. Celebrate everybody. The cartoons, as they were written, were mostly white males, but there were a lot that were not, and that’s okay. One of my favorite characters was Storm from the X-Men, which was a woman of color. Okay. Everybody’s got their favorites. Wolverine, and the last one that they did, Wolverine and Deadpool, Deadpool and Wolverine, two white men, massive hit, and it was the last hit they’ve had. Okay. Okay. And Ant-Man is being replaced by his daughter. They’re taking Paul Rudd out? Pretty much, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Everyone loves him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they’re phasing him out and phasing his daughter in. That’s what the idea was. And I think he’s still going to do a spot, but it won’t be much. You see what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but also they rush these movies so badly. There’s not really good writing. They don’t edit anything anymore. And so you don’t have these real quick, tight movies. You’ve got these things that just drag out jokes that miss. There’s poor chemistry because the directing isn’t great. It’s just more disappointment than success.
SPEAKER 19 :
You said the key word, chemistry. It’s gone. Okay, Tanner, have you noticed this? The chemistry is gone in these movies. The chemistry for the first Ant-Man was explosive. It was incredible. The chemistry for Iron Man, explosive. It was incredible. The chemistry for Guardians of the Galaxy was instantly some of the best I’d ever seen in my life. The chemistry for the Avengers, fantastic. The chemistry for movie after movie after movie. The original Black Panther, terrific. That got worse as it went along. They replaced him with his sister. The… which was a total waste because she was wonderful. But by taking her out of the funny character, they put her into the serious one and killed her best thing, which is humor, which was a real waste. I’m not even going to go down the road. Bottom line is this. They pushed them both back till the following two Decembers, which tells me they’re having problems. And they are just missing. I don’t know that anybody’s excited about Marvel anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
I doubt it. They’re probably waiting on the money to come in because they’ve had so many flops.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole and my blushing bride. That’s right. Okay, Tanner, buddy. What’s up? Got a question for you? Yeah. It’s kind of personal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I’m ready.
SPEAKER 19 :
Are you ready for a movie? I’m ready for a movie! Okay, Tanner, you know, Tom Cruise, you ever heard of him?
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s kind of a… He’s a great guy.
SPEAKER 19 :
I think he’s got potential, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, Scientology is a great religion, so I think he’s on to something.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, it’s so funny. He is so likable, I can almost like Scientology, but no.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. I mean, everything he does, it’s like, I still haven’t even seen Jerry Maguire. Everyone tells me to see that. And I’m sure he’s great in that, that he was a young kid.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, I’m going to be honest. Jerry Maguire is kind of a tearjerker. It’s funny at times, but it’s a bit slow. I know I’m going to be hated for that. Okay, here comes the hate mail, but it is a good movie. It’s a very good movie. Okay, well, Tom Cruise returns to finish one of the biggest franchises in cinema history with Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning.
SPEAKER 15 :
Smart people on every side are close to panicking.
SPEAKER 06 :
What exactly is…
SPEAKER 13 :
Your team has been betrayed, Ethan. All your secrets compromised.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everything you are, everything you’ve done, has come to this. You gave him an aircraft carrier? Some of our choices. This is your calling. Your destiny. I have no regrets. Neither should you.
SPEAKER 06 :
I need you to trust me. One last time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Come on, Tanner. Trust in Tom.
SPEAKER 04 :
I am excited for this.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, here we go. We begin a few months after Dead Reckoning with Ethan Hunt and his team battling to stop the Entity, a deadly AI which is hell-bent on world destruction. Aren’t they all?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, they are. This is so different from battling a person, though. People, they got weaknesses. They got personalities. You can use leverage on them. The AI really doesn’t care. You’re a number. So, well, to recap, Ethan’s team got to keep this in mind. We have Benji, played by Simon Pegg, Grace, played by Haley Atwell, Luther, played by the great Ving Rhames and Paris, played by Pom Clemente. More on her later. The early portions of the film center around the previous seven movies tying today’s events with Ethan’s life and how it has brought him and his team to this seminal moment. So they keep tying it in. Very interesting at times. Meanwhile, a villain named Gabriel, played by Esai Morales, and he’s been in there before. He believes he can control the entity and make it serve his purposes. You know? Yeah, because that always works out well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Every time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, every time. Well, the entity is attempting to hack into the nuclear arsenals around the world so we can blow each other up. Apparently, we are the problem, which makes the entity much like Ultron from The Avengers. I mean, it really does. But this entity has no body, just a program. Well, anyway, the storyline is secondary to the action and the stunts. That’s what we come for, right? We come for the action and the stunts. Now, there’s an incredible sequence underwater with a submarine. Really, it’s… Kind of mind-boggling. And then there’s another one on a plane, which is also mind-boggling. Really? Those are the two biggest stunts of the show. There are some others, but those are really incredible. Now, the big question, of course, is will Ethan survive and stop the entity? Or is this a 007 swan song all over again? To find out, you’re going to have to buy a ticket to Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I can’t wait. Too bad it’s not going to be on any streaming service for about four or five months because it’s going to do too well.
SPEAKER 19 :
These will take a while. Okay, what works in Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning? Well, first of all, Tom Cruise is currently the most magnetic movie star alive. He’s the new John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, or the newer Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, or Tom Hanks. Cruise’s daredevil approach transcends his Hollywood hunk image to being an everyman hero, wouldn’t you say?
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. It’s like this guy is as big as all of them, as great as all of them, but he’s like one of us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Except he’s 5’7″, but yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, that helps, actually. He’s great. Naturally, the cast is excellent and well-established. Simon Pegg, he has become the modern Steve Buscemi, the ultimate side character. He’s just terrific. Atwell, she brings beauty and depth. Reims is a powerful presence throughout the movie. And Clemente might become the best new female action star out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree with that, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, she is terrific. Next, the AI threat. It’s prescient for today, isn’t it? Because it’s such a big issue, right? The action scenes, they are dazzling. They’ve got just super impressive moments where, wow, what they come up with, you are just blown away. The scenery, of course, is fantastic. And there are some moments of humor. And the plot is easier to follow. It’s kind of funny, too. The funniest line goes to Pom Clementeve.
SPEAKER 08 :
It does. Yeah, that was the best line.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and I’ll even say the line. You won’t know it’s coming, so it won’t matter. I kill people. And just so you know, it’s the funniest line in the movie. Next, overall, you have a pretty strong send-off for the franchise. It’s kind of like Harry Potter went more and more serious.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And this franchise has to, and I’ll tell you right out, this is extremely serious. All right. What doesn’t work in Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning? Okay, guys, I got to be honest here. There are some real downsides. First of all, this was a very poorly edited film with teary-eyed producers wanting everything kept in. It’s two hours and 50 minutes, which can be something sometimes and nothing other times. And, Corey, you watch this with me. I would say you could have cut at least 30, maybe 40 minutes out of this movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was thinking 40, to be honest.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and we’ll get to why in a moment. Next, this is huge. Unlike the lightning fast dialog of the previous films, remember those every time that they would say they would start to plan out their next caper and how they were going to do it? Well, that’s impossible. We can’t do it. We’re going to do it. And here’s how. Remember the the energy? We’ll do this. We’ll do this. Now I got to do this. This is state of the art. Now you got to do that. Now you got to go here. Now you go there. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Voices going back and forth, back and forth. And Ethan narrating as he goes through it. Right. High energy, high energy. Not here. This film has everyone talking in slow motion as they painstakingly describe every single step they’re about to take.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was strange.
SPEAKER 19 :
It’s almost, you know, they should have had somebody off to the side doing still life paintings of what they were going to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing Pictionaries.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pictionaries. There was this really awkward point where they were using flashcards in the background.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s what it felt like. It was, oh my gosh. First of all, they planned out way more than they ever have before. They went way slower than they ever have before in saying it and in planning it. And thirdly, they had too many steps taken. Several scenes could have been cut altogether and simply referenced. OK, the president has decided not to do this. The president has. We don’t have to see this elongated scene with the president. OK, and it was just my gosh, it was unbelievably slowed down. Some of the action is just too over the top to be real. Now, I know you’re saying, Andy, you’re a killjoy. We expect that with Mission Impossible. That’s what makes it cool. Come on, man. No, it isn’t, actually. You could always, to a degree, somehow see how this actually could have happened.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I’ve been noticing this as the movies have gone on. They’ve had to get bigger and better and bigger and better. And so I think they’ve kind of… gone past the believability point I can suspend belief for a movie like this but there were a couple scenes where I was like oh come on nobody could survive that right right and I just got to say at the underwater scene with the sub
SPEAKER 19 :
And I’m not going to give it away, but all I’m going to tell you, folks, is these are freezing waters in the North Pacific up by the Arctic Circle. And I’m just going to say he would have been incapacitated in minutes, in a few seconds, for what he actually went on to do. And I’m not just saying that with me looking on and being a nerd about this, folks. I think a lot of people had to be watching this and going, no way. No way. And you don’t want the action movie to have the action make you go, no way. Not unless it’s a comedy. Then you love it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it was totally no way. Now, the stuff in the airplane, less so. You could actually see how as crazy and incredible as it was, you know, you could see how it was possible. Right. You could still look at that and go… Still possible. I’m still good. I’m having a ball with this.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s what I mean. Like that, it’s like, okay, it’s over the top, but I can see that happening. Right. Because it’s Tom Cruise.
SPEAKER 19 :
Actually, the best scene to me wasn’t Tom Cruise. It was Benji. As I’ll just say, under very dire circumstances, he is having to coach two women to do other things for them.
SPEAKER 08 :
To save their lives.
SPEAKER 19 :
To save all their lives and basically save Earth.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pretty much. No pressure.
SPEAKER 19 :
Benji, in my opinion, had the best scene.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. Plus, I love Simon Pegg, so a little biased there.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, he’s terrific. Okay, the humor wasn’t nearly as good as it could have been. Benji was way too serious in this film. They had moments, but he was way too serious. Atwell, she’s wonderful. She was Agent Carter. Remember her from Captain America? You ever see Captain America?
SPEAKER 04 :
I saw the original. It’s been a while.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, she was a lady in that. She and Clementine, they were underused for humor, since both are very funny actresses. They can really do humor. Clementine was hilarious in Guardians of the Galaxy. She was the one with the antenna. Okay, and here she’s a warrior, a fighter. And they were just underused. There wasn’t nearly as much humor as you could have done with this cast.
SPEAKER 08 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 19 :
And they could have what they should have done. Bottom line, folks, is they should have cut out several scenes, reference them and said, you know, reference this having happened and that having happened and only planned out, you know, two or three major things that they had to do. Shorten the planning, not have everybody talk monotone. and slowly have them go bing bing bing bing bing bing bing back and forth like they did in the earlier movies okay when they would plan something out have more fun with it they should have had much more fun with benji now the stuff with ving rames was fantastic wouldn’t change a thing agree okay but that’s ving rames the scenes they did wonderful with him but with benji man what a waste They could have done so much more with him. Overall, there were periods of this movie, especially some of the action points, especially the submarine, where I was more impressed than entertained. I’m like, well, it’s very impressive. This isn’t working for me. I got flat out bored many points throughout this movie. It was far too long, and they took way too long telling you what they were going to do. Corey, what do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
I would agree with that. I also thought there were some extra fights in there that weren’t necessary. They just took up more time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and the best fights were with Pam Clemente.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
She’s the funnest one to watch fight. She really is. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this movie 79%, which is the lowest grade I think has ever been given on a Mission Impossible since the third one or the second one, I forget. And this is the eighth?
SPEAKER 08 :
Something like that, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
So this is a big drop off, folks. Quality, I’m going to go under 79%. Although, look, there are people who are going to go to this and they just want to see Cruise and they’re not going to care. And they don’t care if they’ve got to wait 10 hours to watch an action scene and have it described. And they’ll love it anyway. They’ll love anything. I’m sorry, but that’s how it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the people next to us were kind of like that. Yes. They were loving every single moment.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right, but you could tell other people, look, I wasn’t hearing hardly any laughter. I wasn’t feeling the buzz.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
But I was down the stretch toward the end.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was definitely a fun movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it ended strong.
SPEAKER 08 :
It did, and it was worth seeing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Quality three stars. Political three, moral religious three didn’t say a thing. Well, you know what? Political, maybe two and a half, because there’s a lot of woke imagery, you know, black female president, which I’m fine with. That’s fine. By the way, I happen to love the actress Viola Davis. But it was just like they were trying to once again do, as you were talking about earlier with the Marvel Universe, basically. push diversity into all kinds of roles throughout the movie on the submarine in the white house in so many places and the dumbest people were almost always white men almost yeah that is true okay and so you know i was a little weak in that thing do i recommend going to mission impossible the final reckoning oh come on yes i do okay do i think you’re gonna love it as much as whatever are your favorite mission impossibles no i do not sorry folks i don’t think it’s a great send-off I don’t think it’s a terrible one, and I do love the very ending, but it’s a long trudge getting there. That is Mission Impossible, the final reckoning. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
It sounds like they need to do the second final reckoning, movie number nine.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, do something else and shorten it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Benji, I… Get back to what they do well. I was blanking on who that was, but now that I’ve seen him, he was fantastic in all those movies. Oh, yeah. Maybe the funniest, best all-around character, because Tom’s so driven on, we’ve got to get this goal done. You don’t really get emotions from him or personality, whereas Benji, you get everything.
SPEAKER 19 :
Tom was actually the straight man to Benji a lot of the time, and they played off each other beautifully. They had great chemistry. Right. And they still do, but they don’t do anything with it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I felt like Benji’s character added a lot of life to the franchise, and I feel like he’s the reason there have been nine movies.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Okay, well, you know what? Do you want something a little more hyper? Because that movie was pretty slow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. Hey, Corey. Got a question for you. Oh, yeah? I’ve known you for quite a while.
SPEAKER 08 :
A little bit.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, a little bit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 19 :
You betcha. You betcha. That’s good. You do a good Wisconsin accent. You know that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I am from there, you know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Is that how you root for the Packers?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. there’s another popular cartoon that has gotten a live-action CGI remake, and it is Lilo and Stitch.
SPEAKER 01 :
We have apprehended a dangerous experiment. Where is he? He escaped. He’s trying to find the police cruisers.
SPEAKER 06 :
He, uh, he took the red one. What hideous planet is caught in your crosshairs?
SPEAKER 10 :
Shooting stars! I wish for a friend. Like a best friend.
SPEAKER 1 :
What the hell?
SPEAKER 10 :
He’s so cute and fluffy! He is your responsibility. Got it? We promise.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Control him.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, what are you doing? Dogs on the table.
SPEAKER 10 :
You sure that’s a dog? Yeah. Rough. All right, Cory, what do you think? Sound like fun?
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m not sure about this one.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, well, let’s dive in. We begin on another planet as mad scientist Jumba has created a weapon. No, this isn’t a nuke, and it’s not the entity, though it’s nearly as destructive. Instead, this is a small creature that is almost impossible to destroy, strong beyond its size, and boundless in destructive energy. So, you know, a regular toddler. Kind of like that. No, no, actually it’s Stitch. This blue furry little creature appears to have downed ten expressos. That’s what you would think. And the government shuts down the program, but Jumbo wants to control Stitch. Anyway, Stitch escapes in a little ship, crash landing on Earth, of course. There he meets Lilo. Now, Lilo, she’s played by an adorable Maya Kiloa. She is a little Hawaiian girl living with her older sister, Nani, who’s played by Sydney Agidong. I’m not quite sure how to say that, but she seems really nice. They’ve lost their parents and Nani is struggling to keep custody of Lilo. This is already difficult since finances are tight and Lilo is a friendless troublemaker. She’s really tough. So she’s already a handful. An older sister doesn’t have any money, and she’s trying to hold on to a job, and Lilo’s making it tougher. She’s in a real hard spot. Well, this all gets exponentially worse when Lilo adopts a new quote-unquote dog, Stitch. And won’t bother explaining why Stitch was in this position to be adopted as a dog or why anyone would think he’s a dog. Doesn’t look like one. What matters? Who cares, right? What matters is that Stitch is far more destructive than Lilo. All right. So the two wreak havoc on Nani’s ability to keep a job. So they’re ensuring Nani will lose Lilo, breaking up the family. This is becoming a real problem. Meanwhile, Jumba has come to Earth with another super nerd named Pleakley, played by Billy Magnuson. Together, they are told to catch Stitch and bring him back. There’s also a government agent here on Earth trying to catch Stitch. So now you have multiple stories coming together. We want Stitch. They want Stitch. Lilo wants Stitch. And Nani just wants to keep a job and care for her little sister. Throw these elements together and let Stitch trample them. And you have Lilo and Stitch. Corey, what do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Sounds entertaining.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sounds entertaining. OK, well, what works in Lilo and Stitch? First of all, I love the word and the message of Ohana. I really do, because that is the core theme of this movie. It’s not just family. It’s extended family. It’s adopted family. And really, there’s no grasp of this term on Stitch’s planet, much like in American society. We’re broken just like them. And I think that was kind of a message. And I think it’s a good one. Next, the CGI is brilliantly woven together. I mean, really woven together well with live actors and sets. You know, sometimes they don’t pull it off. Right, Tanner. Here, perfectly. Every little action, everything. When Stitch touches water, you know, the rings, the whole thing. It’s done perfectly. Stitch’s crazed shenanigans are a feast for kids wanting to watch unbridled energy tear up a world that limits them. This is why kids love it. Kids all feel restrained. They’ve got so much more energy than their parents.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they do. And they wish that they could just do everything that Stitch is doing. Stitch is the outward manifestation of their inner dreams.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they’re living vicariously.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, totally. They are living vicariously through Stitch. And, you know, throughout the movie, I could just see kids looking up at their parents saying, oh, yeah, that’s coming.
SPEAKER 08 :
Get ready. Don’t even think about it.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s what I want to do to your car. That’s what I want to do to your job. That’s what I want to do to you. Really, they’re living through Stitch, and this is why kids like it. Also, one last thing, there really is no woke messaging, just chaos.
SPEAKER 03 :
Perfect.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah, just have a movie. But what doesn’t work in Lilo and Stitch? Well, going back and forth between Stitch and the aliens and people, well, that works better in a cartoon than it does in CGI. It kind of gets jarring, jumping back, forth, back, forth. It’s a little difficult. Next, while Stitch offers lots of physical humor, the dialogue lacks wit. This is a real drawback, folks. Remember, you’re trying to entertain parents as well as the kids so they can enjoy it together. And also, witty humor, if done right, is also funny for kids. Right. Watch The Incredibles, right? Watch, you know… Monsters, Inc. Monsters, Inc., right? The jokes that the parents love, the kids love, too, and it’s lacking here. It really is. This just isn’t that funny of a film with only a few funny lines. Also, the physical humor really gets old. It seems to just go nowhere. It’s like it’s being forced in every scene because they don’t have writing. And so they’re forcing more of the physical humor. I know that’s kind of hard to explain, but that’s how it came off. Next, point being, in a theater packed with kids wearing stitch caps and carrying stitch dolls, I wasn’t hearing a lot of laughter.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that’s too bad.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, just some. And you know, when I go to a movie like this, I’m watching it not for me, but for them. Okay, that’s why I want a lot of them in there. And they were. And this was a real slog for adults. It was rough. It was a tough ride for adults, in my opinion. Next, I wasn’t impressed with the two lead actresses, honestly. They were just okay. No one was great. 1.48, an hour 48 was far too long for this movie.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is long.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Hour 28 would have been the way to do a movie like this. There wasn’t much depth or chemistry with the characters. Mad. And even the Ohana, the family, the extended family, they really didn’t blend together that well. They were just nice, likable people all saying their lines as this, you know, quote unquote Ohana. It really, it wasn’t meshing. You’ve seen movies where it just meshes. Getting back to Guardians of the Galaxy, Tanner. These people didn’t even know each other. Half hour in the movie, they’re topping each other’s lines. They’re just going bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You haven’t seen Guardians. No. You still haven’t seen Guardians? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
How is that possible?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t have Disney+.
SPEAKER 19 :
Name another movie. The Avengers. You’ve seen that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, how was the chemistry in that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Fantastic. Every single big star, it seemed like they had been best friends for decades.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Here you just got, honestly, rather nominal actors just saying lines. It wasn’t really working. The movie felt rather lifeless throughout. And I read a bunch of other reviewers, and a lot of them felt the same thing. Even the ones who said, hey, I like this movie, a lot of them would admit, you know, it didn’t have the life of the first. And then there were some who didn’t like it, and they would say, yeah, I liked a lot of the action, and the CGI was brilliant, but it didn’t seem to have the life of the first. Well, I’m telling you why. It was lacking chemistry. It was lacking great writing. And it was too long. Those are the downsides to Lilo and Stitch. Now, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 72%. This is a very difficult movie for me to review. Very difficult. Because I’m going to give it quality two stars. That’s a little low. I know. I think it’s going to be a monster hit. Huge hit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, well, just seeing how crazy the kids were. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
You can daigle keys in front of children and they’ll enjoy it. That’s true. Okay, but this is a three and a half for kids. It’s not a five, even for kids. There are movies that the wild robot kids went crazy for. Okay, this is not on that level. For me, it was half a star. This was a rough, rough watch. So what I’m doing is for general audiences, I’m splitting the difference and putting it at two stars. Sound fair?
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds fair.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, political three. More religious, I’m going to give it four. I love the family Ohana message. I think that’s terrific. Do I recommend going to Lilo and Stitch? Folks, if you don’t, your children will kill you. Okay. And no, I hope I don’t get in trouble saying that. I’m kidding. Of course, folks. But they will not be happy. Let’s put it that way. All right? And unhappy kids do not make for a happy home. So, yes, take them to Lilo and Stitch. Bring your phone. And that’s all I can say. Up next, when we come back, we’re going to talk about the Hour 2 topic. Sound good? Because we’re going to have a lot of fun in Hour 2. Up next is Geno’s Auto Service. If you’re on the west side of town, get your car fixed by the best. Go to Geno’s Auto, where customer reviews are off the charts. Seriously, before you go to Geno’s Auto, if you’re listening right now, I mean this, go online and look at their reviews. Wow. I mean, they’re just praise to the hills. Call Geno’s at 303-794-6700.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. Corey, okay. Sorry, but I love doing that to you. Okay, we need to do the impossible question of the day. Here we go. Yesterday’s impossible question. In the years 595 to 589 BCE, the capital of the kingdom of Kush was moved to what ancient city?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you said Kush, so Denver?
SPEAKER 19 :
No. No, they didn’t have that much crime. Moreau, I think it is. I think that’s what, it’s kind of hard. I’m trying to read how it looks there, but Moreau. Okay, make sense?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I’m sorry. Today’s impossible question. How long can a sloth hold their breath?
SPEAKER 08 :
I have no idea.
SPEAKER 19 :
First of all, did you know a sloth breathed? Can’t they swim?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know. They live up in the canopy of the rainforest.
SPEAKER 19 :
I would think you’d have to paddle faster.
SPEAKER 04 :
Since there’s probably high altitude, I’m going to go with three minutes. Three minutes, Corey?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know. Two minutes?
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, I’m just going to tell you both, it’s way higher. So if you want to weigh in on the answer, folks, go to klzradio.com, go to rushtoreason.com, and weigh in on how long going to sloth hold their breath, I don’t want to say until Tuesday. Sound good? And by the way, who’s going to be with me on Tuesday?
SPEAKER 04 :
Your boy.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s right. Tanner Coleman is going to be with me on Tuesday. We’re going to have a lot of fun. We’re also going to be interviewing the state chair. Oh, Britta. Britta Horn.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, so we’re going to have a lot of fun. We’re going to have Richard Rush doing sports. We’re going to have Eli Bremer doing some more politics. We’re going to have a lot of fun on Tuesday. Okay. In the next hour, our topic is going to be best movie quotes. Now, what makes a great movie quote?
SPEAKER 08 :
They’re turned into memes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yes. That’s one big thing, right? They’re turned into memes. You know, another thing I’ve really found the best movie quotes are the ones I wind up using in my day to day life. Every time I I’m in a situation that reminds me of that, I say the movie quote.
SPEAKER 04 :
I have a hard time remembering any movie quotes. I think there’s about five, like I would actually say. But then when you look it up, it goes back to movies I’ve never seen or the most obvious ones that I don’t want to use. I don’t want to sound like I’m a pastor or I’m some great Revolutionary War veteran. I want a little comedy in there.
SPEAKER 19 :
You want to sound like a Revolutionary War veteran pastor. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they did play a big role in the revolution.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just saying.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, you know, you would have, you know, just whole regiments of pastors storing over a hill.
SPEAKER 08 :
They led the militias. In fact, give them the Watts boys, I think is what they said.
SPEAKER 19 :
Actually, they did go up front a lot of times.
SPEAKER 04 :
My mother’s side of the family thinks we’re related to Robert E. Lee. Wow. My middle name’s Lee.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I promise, Tanner, if we’re ever in battle, I guarantee I’ll push you to the front.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I’m the guy from Hacksaw Ridge. I’m carrying bodies. You’re carrying bodies? I’m a long-distance sprinter.
SPEAKER 19 :
You’re going to carry mine first. I will still be healthy. I won’t have been hit. I won’t be injured, but you’ll just carry me off the field of battle.
SPEAKER 04 :
Running back towards the troops, screaming and crying.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Tanner, where are you? Exactly. I like to flee.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can see that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that’s what I do. But we’re going to be doing movie quotes, and there are obviously countless ones. And I want to hear from people. It’s 303-477-5600. And if you want to text us, it’s 307-200-8222. That’s 307-200-8222. And John Rush, who should be in range. Hopefully he will relay those to me, but I want to hear movie quotes that are the ones that come up for you a lot that you think about. Maybe they come up in conversation, like you’re in a situation, you’re at a mall, you know, and thinking charge like Braveheart or whatever, you know, but I mean, movie quotes are big. I think a lot of us talk in movie quotes. They’ve become so big in our lives. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I do more accents.
SPEAKER 19 :
You do more accents?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I already have an accent, but… Okay, let’s hear one. I don’t want to use one of my quotes, unfortunately.
SPEAKER 19 :
By the way, folks, if you want to call in and give a movie quote and do the accent poorly, that’s extra points. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ll be back.
SPEAKER 19 :
There you go. Sounds good. Sounds good. And yes, we will be talking about I’ll be back.
SPEAKER 08 :
I thought it was convincing. I’ll be back.
SPEAKER 19 :
What?
SPEAKER 08 :
I thought it was convincing.
SPEAKER 19 :
It worked for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nice night for a walk.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. There are so many. So we’re going to have a lot of fun. I want to hear your favorite movie quotes in our number two, and that’ll be good. That’s it for our number one right now. Once again, in our number two, our movie topic is best movie quotes. I’m here with Tanner and Corey. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 03 :
Average Guys. Ordinary Average Guys.
