Join us as we unravel the intricacies of biohacking and health improvement strategies with guest insights from Jeremy Sova. Explore the foundations of intelligent aging and the critical role of biomarkers in tracking and enhancing health. This engaging episode will inspire you to take proactive steps towards achieving optimal health in any financial situation.
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I’m sorry that I’m fat. Welcome, listeners. It is not Wednesday. It is Tuesday, for those of you who are a little confused. And I’m not John Rush. This is Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. He and Tara are off for the Fourth of July weekend having a lot of fun. So in studio, I have Jeremy Sova. Say hello, Jeremy. Hey there. It’s great to be back again. So for those who missed the last time I was on, about four weeks ago, I think, or five, I had Jeremy on with me. So Jeremy is one of my patients. You can say client or whatever term you want to use. But Jeremy is, I’d almost call you an expert biohacker now. and we’re going to define what is a biohacker. So for those of you who want to get healthier, who listen in specifically, especially on Wednesdays, to either John or myself, and want stuff that you can do to make yourself healthier so that you’re not in that medical-industrial complex, Today’s your day. We’ve got three hours of great information. I suggest that when we’re done this evening, go back and listen to the broadcast. You can go on the 560 KLZ, Rush to Reason, and listen to this because we are going to be moving fast. There’s so much information. Jeremy has given me a stack of stuff we’re going to be talking about. We’re going to cover some of the things that we talked about five weeks ago. To clarify some things that we kind of skimmed over and glossed over, but more information as it’s coming available. I can’t keep up with the stuff anymore. So fortunately, Jeremy has time on his hands. I guess I would call you independently wealthy now. And you have time that you can do a deeper dive than a lot of folks can. And we’re going to give you folks a lot of tips on what you can do, regardless of where you’re at financially. If you’re just starting this journey, if you’re like, well, I want to be a baby biohacker. And what’s the one thing that I can do? Or if you have as much money as Brian Johnson. Those of you who don’t know, Brian Johnson is very famous. He’s a multimillionaire. He’s just throwing money at his body to reverse aging. And yes, we can reverse your aging, and we’ll talk a lot about that. Also, we have in studio James Flounding. So your brother has been joining us the last couple of times, and you guys have your clinic there in Littleton. Why don’t you give out a plug for your clinic? Sure.
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Yeah, we own Revitalized Health in Littleton, have locations up north and down south as well, focusing on functional medicine, anti-aging, peptides, and the whole nine.
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Yeah, so John, James, and Joe do similar things to what I do. We have, I think, in my clinic, the hyperbaric, a few other things. But very similar, very like-minded, not going to try and sell you on just junk and the typical medical stuff. So that’s what we’re going to be talking about for the next three hours. So those of you who are interested in getting healthier, this is the place for you. But I wanted to first start off saying happy 4th of July. Let’s remember what the 4th of July is. That was the day that our founding fathers actually declared independence from King George III. He was a tyrant, and he would make them house their troops. And remember, the British troops at that time, they were not the A team. These were the C teams. These were the convicts, the conscripts, and King George III made a lot of these guys house these soldiers in their little cabins with their wives, their daughters. They had to feed them the whole thing out. And so they sent several grievances to King George III over years. He sent his judges, almost like these leftist activist judges that we see today, that were running roughshod. They had their laws, and they said, we don’t care. The king sent us, so we’re going to bend the knee to the king and his wishes. And finally it hit a point where the founding fathers said, said, enough is enough. We’re willing to sign this document, send it to King George III, saying, you know what? We’re done with you. We’re going to break off. We declare our independence. They knew when they signed that document that they were signing their death warrant. And so then they had to fight for their independence. And then later we get our independence, the Constitution, after we tried going it on. Each state did their own thing. That didn’t work out very well, and then we got the Constitution. So thank you to our founding fathers. Thank you to all those in the military who defend our country. Many of you know that I did serve in the Air Force, so not to brag, but I just did. Thank you for your service. You’re welcome very much. So enough about our history. And the other thing I wanted to say is we are going to talk a lot about getting yourself healthy. But it doesn’t matter if you come to me and I’m able to add another 10, 15 years onto your life. Unless you have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in your life, it doesn’t matter if I give you an extra day. Because Scripture says, what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his life? So… I would suggest you find a friend if you are not saved to ask him, what is this salvation? Is it a free gift? Yes. Find out what it’s all about. That’s my encouragement for you today. So Jeremy, let’s jump in. First off, I want to talk about HSA versus FSA. Sure. Okay. So what is the difference and what do those terms mean? Because a lot of people have heard HSA, FSA, because I want to help people at the beginning and at the end of the three hours understand how can they afford the things that we’re talking about. Absolutely.
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So FSA stands for Flex Spending Account, and most employers will have some sort of a flex spending option available. where each year you can portion off part of your salary that goes to what we call a use it or lose it. So you have to use those funds over the course of that year or they disappear the next year. That’s kind of the first step that most people have access to. And kind of the better option is what they call an HSA, which is a health savings account. Or similar to an independent retirement account, like an IRA, there’s a cap each year. I think it’s around $7,000 that you can contribute to this, and you can use the funds over the course of your lifetime for medical expenses. And if there’s something left over at age 59 1⁄2 or above, then you can pull it out tax-free. But it’s a really good way to start to deploy the funds necessary for what I call this intelligent aging or this biohacking process. instead of just paying completely out of pocket because everything we’re going to talk about today, or at least 99% of it, is not going to be covered by your typical health insurance plan.
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That’s correct. Well done. Well said. So, yeah, if you have a health or you’re in the market for a health insurance plan, then we would recommend getting one, even if it’s an Obamacare plan, get one that has an HSA account. James, do you guys take HSA in your clinic?
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We do, yeah.
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Yeah. See, so a lot of us do. You’re starting to get more docs that are taking HSA, FSA. It’s pretty easy. Sometimes we have to write a letter or prescription. Why did you use this? Everybody has a gatekeeper, right? And we have to satisfy the gatekeepers. But it’s your money, so you might as well use it for your health.
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Yeah, I mean, I would go as far as to say is other than basic needs, you know, you got your rent, your food, your clothing. Nowadays, you call it your cell phone, laptop and your automobile. What’s next is what you should be spending money on for your own health. Like everything beyond what I just said is not as important as spending this money to improve your health.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re exactly right. So we have to start somewhere. So. James, if somebody comes into your clinic, brand new, and let’s say they’re 55 years of age and they say, what test do I need to do or where am I at? I want this biohacking. And we’ll define biohacking here in a second. What is the plan that you normally lay out for folks? Yeah.
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Right. I mean, obviously, first, we’re going to take a medical history and get that paperwork completed like you would normally going to your doctor’s office. We want to know what medications, your general health status, so forth is. But we’re going to do an initial evaluation, including physical examination, blood work, more importantly, to see where do we stand at a baseline. We need to know that. We want to know that. So correct the things that are essentially right in front of our face, that tangible evidence that data we can actually change. Then next comes, what are we after? What are our goals? What are your deficiencies? What are you lacking? And that’s where we can talk more effectively. Combining that with functional medicine and the peptides, the other supplemental treatment options to come up with a well-rounded plan for your overall health.
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I’m glad you said that. I didn’t lob you a softball, but I wanted the audience to hear that it’s a communication. It’s two ways. You go to a normal doctor. And it’s a, oh, you’re here for a new patient visit, and they have their script that they go through. You fill out a gazillion forms. They put their stethoscope on your chest. Okay, well, let’s get some labs or biomarkers, basic stuff, and then… I’ll see you for your cholesterol check. And here’s another statin. And then that’s kind of it. It’s not a team effort. It’s not what are you looking to do? What can we do that’s maybe outside of the box? So I want to dive deeper. And Jeremy, your story is fascinating. So we’re going to take a quick break. When we come back, I want you to recap the story that you told five weeks ago of where you started from, how crappy you were, and let’s take this journey with you using you as that example. Okay. Sounds great. All right. So you’re listening to Dr. Scott and friends filling in on this Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday before 4th of July. We’ll be right back.
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And welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John on this Health and Wellness Tuesday, not Wednesday. I have my guests in the studio, James Flauding and Jeremy Silva. So, Jeremy, give us a recap of how crappy you were. Can I say, Charlie, can I say crappy? Okay. Charlie, give me a thumbs up.
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That’s how I felt, so it fits.
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Yeah, exactly. How bad you were a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, we’ll go five years ago is when things really started to get ugly. Overweight, high stress, not sleeping, like all the things that a typical standard American sedentary work lifestyle entail. Without paying attention other than, you know, going to the gym once in a while. And the journey has been incredible. We’ve gotten to the point now where I was 62 years old at age 42. So I was about 20 years older.
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Based on what tests?
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Um, based on glycan age, which is an inflammatory marker test. And we test that. Yep. And, um, that was the primary test that told me I was in my early sixties. And so that kind of freaked me out and it led to all kinds of looks at different issues and inflammatory markers. And I was, you know, 215 pounds. It was 24. 3% body fat. My BMI was 32. And now I’m younger than my biological age by a couple of years. So I’ve reversed my age about 16.4 years now based on three different biological aging tests and looking at what those do. but it didn’t come with as much change as you would think. All right. It was just a little bit here, a little bit there, but it all starts with what we talked about about five weeks ago is you, if you don’t measure it, you can’t manage it. So that means, you know, you doctors call them labs, us, you know, intelligent aging biohackers call them biomarkers and, So finding out everything that’s going on in your blood and in your organs and looking at it on paper and then figuring out how to supplement for deficiency instead of just supplementing for the sake of supplementation. But you don’t know what to do and what to take or what not to eat until you know the results of those biomarkers. So that’s by far the first step. And then lately, a lot of people listen to this called a podcast. It’s up on Apple Podcasts and iHeartRadio. And they’re like, well, why do you want to live forever? Or aren’t you miserable doing all these things, taking these supplements and these lifestyle changes? And the answer is I don’t want to live forever. I want to just be healthy for as long as I do live. I want to make sure if I drop dead at 70 80 or 90 that i’m on the golf course or i’m on the ski slopes or i’m i’m in bed with my spouse and like some major cardiac event happens but up to that point i want to be as if i’m 25 years old the entire time and we’re seeing now that it’s possible and we continue to drive towards those different means and modalities to get there so that’s kind of where it all started and now five years later i’m blown away at the results and i’m just getting started
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Yeah. And I like that you say that with the biomarkers because that’s exactly what you said, James. When a patient comes into you, it’s that conversation. Whether you call them labs or biomarkers, guys like us do so many more than a typical – most people have heard me say this, a dock in the box. They’ll check your kidney and your liver function. They’ll check a CBC, which checks your white blood cell count, red blood cell count, your platelets. If you’re a guy, they may check a PSA and make sure you don’t have prostate cancer. They’ll definitely check a lipid panel because they definitely want to throw you on a statin, whether you need it or not. And that’s kind of it. And then they pat you on the head. They might adjust if there’s something off slightly. And then they’ll say, we’ll see you in a year. Right.
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And meanwhile, we talked about the four horsemen of death, which is heart disease, number one, kills more people than anything else, cancer, metabolic syndrome, and brain disease. So those are the four things that you really need to focus on individually and in total. And there’s really four ways to do that that we’ll talk about through the course of these three hours. And it’s sleep, exercise, nutritional biochemistry, and stress management. And each of those can attack the four horsemen. And when you get the matrix complete, you’ll start to see things that you couldn’t believe were possible.
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Right. And as we said at the outset, you can do this incrementally, piecemeal. You don’t have to jump all the way in up to your eyeballs. and spend $50,000 or whatever that figure is, you can do this fairly inexpensively and start that journey to get yourself healthy. That’s right. So I think that’s a great place to start. So Jeremy, keep talking about how did you get started? Sure.
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you know, did some biomarkers, figured out there was some inflammation going on, had to start figuring out where it was coming from, what it was doing. So I focused on the heart first because it’s the most important. And I thought it may have been some autoimmune stuff in my genetic code from my parents. And there’s some of that we’ll talk about later, but did find out that there was significant inflammation leading to some heart issues and So I lied to my primary care doctor and told him I was having some chest pain so I could get some testing that I otherwise couldn’t get done because it wouldn’t be covered by insurance. Ended up getting a calcium score, which is a CT scan that looks at the calcium buildup in the heart and the arteries. Found out that I think about 15% of my left anterior descending artery, which is the one next to the widowmaker, was blocked with calcium you know so i freaked out right so i did all the research i could possibly do to figure out like how to stop more of that from happening i didn’t know i could really reverse the health of the arteries at the time um so took that information and decided what do i do with it so i was referred to a cardiologist and a rheumatologist and i met with both of those folks and they’re some of the best in colorado by um by medicine 1.0 standards. We can talk about 1.0 and 3.0 later. And found out that really all they wanted to do, like you said, was put me on a statin and hope that they’d see me later to be able to put in a stent at some point. And I wasn’t satisfied. So I decided to look much deeper, get a lot more biomarkers, particularly on the heart, the brain, and the metabolic health, which are three of the four things that cause issues. And the biggest one for the lay folks out there, because you can really talk about lipoprotein fractionality, and you can really geek out on some of this stuff, but apolipoprotein B, as in boy, short for ApoB, is a very easy marker to find and see if it’s elevated, and you need to get it lowered significantly. I think below 50 is what my research shows. Mine was 135 when I first tested it. And a lot of other bad stuff too. But there’s different ways to do it. And there’s different genotypes that we can talk about that you get one allele from your mom, one allele from your dad, and your heart gene is what it is. And there’s some epigenetic changes and gene expressions that we can talk about to make those better. But as a baseline, you’ve got to see what you were given by God and your folks and say, okay, what do we do now? And ApoB is a very easy thing to get tested. When I first asked my primary care physician about it, he kind of smirked and he’s like, well, there’s going to be an additional fee for that. And what I learned was he was basically going to have to charge me because my insurance company wasn’t going to cover that. They were going to cover the typical lipid panel, which is LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, and triglycerides. Correct. So I think I paid an extra 45 bucks, you know, to find out what my ApoB was. And it came back high. So I was like, all right, what do I do? So research shows that there’s really three different ways outside of exercise, nutrition, you know, from a pharmacological perspective to help with ApoB from hurting your arteries through plaque buildup called atherosclerosis. And one of them is as simple as something that blocks the cholesterol in the stomach. And I think the brand name is called Zetia. But Azetabibe is the name of it. One 10 milligram tablet blocks the buildup in the stomach, doesn’t have any side effects. So I think that’s a good place to start before you start talking about statins. But say that doesn’t work, then you can talk about maybe a low dose resuvastatin, see if there’s any side effects. And you can do the combination of the two, which is what I do now very effectively. And there’s also short-term and long-term PCSK9 inhibitor injections. And I don’t know what PCSK9 stands for, folks, so you’re going to have to Google that one. But it’ll come up right away. And so those three things from a doctor perspective can help knock those cholesterol numbers into a much, much better position. I have a lipid panel now of about a 25-year-old when it was that of a 70-year-old just five years ago. So ApoB, find it and lower it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because it is a superior marker of heart disease. James, do you guys check ApoB?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we do. Yeah. I mean, go back to what you were saying, like the doctor presenting it as, well, I’m going to have to charge you extra for that. Give them that option, right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that’s kind of how we present it. We do insurance based biomarkers or labs and out of pocket. And ultimately, if it’s out of pocket, this is what the cost is going to be. But this is what I’m highly recommending. Right. And, you know, for especially for someone who’s at a high cardiac rate. risk and you’re starting them on any kind of hormone replacement or just general health management alone, you know, I think those are super important. We, we do the, the calcium scores as well. And, you know, if needed echo and, and any kind of further cardiac workup if needed, but I think it’s super important, especially if you’re going to be on testosterone replacement, you know, as you age to at least get that evaluated and, and clear to know what your risk is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. So my example is my dad, right? He died at 45. He was 165 pounds and died at 45 of massive heart attack, the widow maker, the left main. Um, and I don’t know if he’d had symptoms ahead of time.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oftentimes they don’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
The only thing I know is when we would elk hunt that last year, I had to carry my dad’s rifle. And I feel badly even to this day because I gave him crap. I was like, oh, you’re making your teenage son carry your rifle. I had no idea that he couldn’t make it up the mountain, that there was something going on in his chest. But if he had this knowledge, this information, then we could have found it, or we. I was a teenager at the time. The doctors could have found this, and they could have saved my dad’s life.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
You don’t know. As a doctor, I can’t look at you. I’m not Superman. I don’t have x-ray vision. I need information. I need data. And so for the vast majority of people who are satisfied with going to Kaiser and getting their annual exam with just a few things, then you know what? God bless you. But for the people, John’s listeners, who are highly intelligent folks, they think outside of the box. That’s why they’re listening to us. They’re taking notes. We’re going to give you the roadmap so that you don’t end up like my dad did. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sorry. I was saying the thing is, you feel good until you don’t. You’re quote-unquote healthy until you aren’t. Right. And those things can creep up with you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Especially with the heart, right? There’s a reason it’s the number one killer in the world. It’s the one that creeps up on you over time, and just one piece of soft plaque breaks off and gets plugged. You can get lucky and have a defibrillator nearby or access to an ambulance, but oftentimes… It’s too late.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Real quick story. Three years ago, I went to the emergency room, and I’ll tell you a little bit of background with that. I’ve always been healthy. I’m in relatively great shape for my whole life. I exercise and work out. My diet isn’t on point, but it’s relatively clean. And I’ve never had any concerns as far as symptomatic presentation. About three years ago, I started having these episodes of vision changes, very brief, but they would come and go, intermittent. Just kind of diaphoretic or sweating. My chest was feeling heavy. And I got to the point where I was thinking I was having a heart attack one day. And so I told my wife, I’m like, can you check my blood pressure? She’s a nurse as well. And she got a pretty high reading. It was high 100s over low 100s for the diastolic. And I’m like, okay, that’s kind of concerning. So she rushes me to the hospital. Upon intake, triage, my blood pressure was 205 over 120, I think it was. Stroke territory. Yeah, absolutely. And so they did the whole cardiac workup from there, and everything came back fine as far as the evaluation, but I had underlying hypertension. And I never knew it, never felt it. So you can… Look fine, feel fine, but just that’s what I’m saying. You don’t know until you know. That’s right.
SPEAKER 20 :
The mirror is not going to tell you what’s going on on the inside. I have a good buddy and a trainer that’s in the exact same boat. He did his biomarkers based on what we’re talking about here, and he’s got a doctor’s appointment on Thursday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fantastic. Good. This is a great place to stop. We’re going to take a quick break, and when we come back, let’s jump into the brain next. Excellent. All right, so you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush on Health and Wellness Wednesday. On Tuesday, we’ll be right back.
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Listeners, you’re listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush on this Health and Wellness Wednesday on Tuesday, right before the 4th of July. We just had a caller ask, how do we get a hold of you guys? So my clinic is called Castle Rock Regenerative Healthcare. You can listen to the advertisements here on John’s show. But to reach the clinic, it’s 303-663-6990, Castle Rock Regenerative Health Care. I do televisits as well. So if you’re up north, you’re in Wyoming, I had a gal in Cheyenne get a hold of me because she could not find a doctor. And I’m a long ways from Cheyenne, and I’m thinking all the people between here and there. But I’m glad she reached out to me. We got her dialed in. She’s feeling so much better. It basically gave her life back. So that’s Castle Rock Regenerative Health Care. You can find us on the web. And James, go ahead and give your information.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so we’re Revitalized Health and phone number 720-361-2302. And yeah, same thing. We focus our function out of Littleton, Colorado. Johnstown, Colorado, but we do telemedicine as well, just like Dr. Faulkner does.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I don’t mind sharing because, let’s face it, I can’t take care of everybody.
SPEAKER 20 :
High tides raise all boats.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that’s exactly right. I went into medicine because I wanted to help people. It’s not, geez, can I die with a pile of cash and drive the fanciest car? I want people to get healthy. That’s why I left the ICU. That’s why I’m doing this. And I lowered the price of all the GLP medicines, the semaglutide, terazeptide, to get people to lose weight to be healthy because I want you to be healthy so that you don’t end up in the hospital with your heart attack or your stroke or pick your other favorite disease.
SPEAKER 20 :
That’s a good place for me to say, too, that you’re going to hear me talk about a lot of products and companies over the course of these things. I have no stock in any of them. I have no hidden agenda. No one’s paying me anything to be here. I’ve just done the research for my own self, and the results have been so fascinating that I want to share them with the world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And as a listener, you can do this for yourself, whether you have a lot of money or a little bit of money. Like I said, take that first step. First step is to do a consultation with the doctor who’s going to take the time, listen to you, and map out a plan. And wherever you’re at, we’ll meet you where you’re at and say, okay, well, these are some of the things that we can start to work on. And it’s been five years for you. But look at where you’re at now. I mean, your son’s playing hockey. He’s a young teenager. You’re going to be around for him. My dad died when I was 18.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I mean, I was pretty much bedridden from back surgeries and being unhealthy from 2013 through COVID. And since then, now I can run circles around myself in my 20s. Right. So the body will bounce back until it won’t. Yeah. So you got to make sure you do the right things up front.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. So we were going to talk about the brain. So, Jeremy, you take it away.
SPEAKER 20 :
Sure. So brain disease, one of the horsemen, probably the most commonly known is Alzheimer’s disease. People know about Parkinson’s and some other brain diseases. But what we’re learning is it’s looking as if it’s really an autoimmune disease of the brain on the other side of the blood-brain barrier. So you hear about autoimmune diseases that people have, like rheumatoid arthritis and lupus. So they think that something’s going on with metabolic health that is causing the brain to kind of turn on itself. And I was reluctant to do it for the first year because I was not sure I wanted to know. But there’s different alleles, they call them, or genotypes. And you get one from your mom, you get one from your dad. And these are called APO, lipoprotein E, as in Edward. So APO B was heart, APO E is brain. So APO E, you can have a 2, a 3, or a 4 from mom and dad. So your combos are 2-2, 2-3, 3-3, or 4-4, or 2-4. Um, two fours is bad. That means you’re one of the 7 million Americans that have been tested that has a 65 to 90% likelihood of developing early onset Alzheimer’s probably somewhere around retirement age. Two twos is great, but it’s also rare. So most people are a two three or a three four. Turns out I’m a three four, which is in the biomarker Hyman Labs function health app is in range because I only have one four. And so backing up, now we think that Alzheimer’s is really a disease of choice. You’re not really destined to have it because even if you do have two copies of ApoE4, there’s certain interventions and modalities that you can do against all the categories we’re going to talk about here today. that can keep you from getting that disease.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So that’s the difference between having genetics and epigenetics, what you’re talking about. That’s right. So it’s really the epigenetics that is key. So keep going.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep. So your gene expression, if you do nothing, it’s most likely going to result to what the genetic code came from, from your folks. But you can biohack it, to use this term, and get ahead of those things and not be mad at mom and dad if you happen to get one or two copies of ApoE4. So exercise is the biggest one, and we’re going to talk a lot about exercise here in a little bit. But there’s also different modalities that you can do to improve your mitochondrial cognitive function and health and get your metabolic health in order. We’re finding all these things are tied together. All four of the horsemen are driven by metabolism. Basically, metabolic dysfunction or insulin resistance. And all four of the things that we’re going to talk about that can fix it also work together.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s exactly right. So this term biohacking, you reminded me to go back and define it. So biohacking… We use that word a lot. It’s just a do-it-yourself form of personal improvement in which people attempt to change aspects of their biology to improve their health, performance, or well-being. That’s right. So it’s a cool word. It’s you just do-it-yourself helping yourself.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I learned it. I didn’t even know the term. I just basically brought data to my doctor. And I was paying for a whole hour a year. It’s VIP service for $2,500 called MDVIP. And they send your blood to the Cleveland Clinic, which I found out is no different than the Quest up the street.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 20 :
They charge you for it. But it gave me an hour, right? I really would get into some pretty interesting debates with my own health. And I think I taught him some things too. But most people don’t have that kind of access. So to biohack is to find out your own stuff and then find somebody like you guys to talk to about it and get the stuff you need. Because oftentimes you need a doctor to write a script for maybe one or two things. You can’t do that on your own. But you sure as hell can bring that data in and say, look, I need this. I don’t care what my insurance company says.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s exactly right. So, James, do you have a lot of biohackers coming into the clinic?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we do. We have, I’d say, a good percentage of patients are leaning more towards that these days where they’ve either been fed up with kind of running the circles that they go in with their primary care provider. And so they take it upon themselves. You know, I think this is becoming more and more known, if you will, as far as gaining popularity, self-awareness. And they’re taking it in their hands to deal with their health, you know, outside of their doctor. And that’s unfortunate that that’s happening, I think. But I think it’s necessary and necessary. beneficial to us as far as being able to help those individuals, but it shouldn’t be that way.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. Throw a plug to Dr. Peter Attia. He basically talks about the crack in the foundation of the way the healthcare system has been set up over the last hundred years. He calls that medicine 1.0. Well, now we fast forwarded to this biohacking discussion is really medicine 3.0. And we put a crack in the foundation of the American health care system. And we’re going to bring it to its knees over the course of the next 10 years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And I’ve said this before. COVID was a blessing and a curse. I mean, a lot of people died, including my mom, from this. And I want to wring the neck of her PCP there in Grand Junction who convinced her to take that stupid COVID shot when I was telling her not to. That’s why we call it the clot shot. And now we’re finding young ladies who have given birth, their children, the babies, are now starting to clot. So that concern of did that spike protein cross the placenta is now looking like, yes, it can. And so these little kiddos are starting to clot. But COVID was a blessing and a curse because a lot of people have come to the realization that the medical establishment is not there to help them.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, we stopped trusting the medical industrial complex. Correct. We trusted them up until that point, until they lied to us and they got caught.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Yeah. And those of us have lost our jobs because we try to stand up against the medical industrial complex. But there’s a few of us out there. You guys are growing. Yeah, we’re growing in our numbers, and we’re trailblazers, and we’re happy to do it. We’ll take those arrows when we have to, and we’ll stand on top of the mountain with guys like you. We have to take another break. Then we’ll be right back. We’ll keep talking about brain, and I wanted to give people more information on what are some of these biomarkers that they can be doing, tests that they can do for their brain, and we can go back and talk to you on the heart as well. So let’s take a break. We’ll be right back. 560 KLZ with Dr. Scott Falkner.
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And Jeremy Sova. We’re taking a deep dive on biohacking, making yourself as young as possible, trying to reverse a lot of the damage that a lot of us have done. I just turned 59 a couple of days ago. Happy birthday. Thank you very much. And doing everything I can. And you’re exactly right about doing supplements smart. I told my wife a few months ago, I have not felt this good since I did in my 20s because I’m on the journey like you are. um so as i started to do the the right supplements for mitochondria there was a purpose for everything that i did right the red light the hyperbaric um i still don’t like coal i really can’t get in that cryo chamber even though i own it um it’s a tough one for me but uh i’ll tell the folks that i get through the cold here in a bit yeah but i can ride my dirt bike up in the mountains like on single track, nobody’s business. Sounds like fun. It’s fun. So before the break, I wanted you to go back and touch on the heart. What test would you recommend? Because people are going to listen to this. People are hopping in and out of their car. They can only listen for a short time. They’ll go back and listen to this tonight. They’re going to have a piece of paper and a pencil. They’re like, okay, what are the things that they said that I can start to do or go into my doctor or go see James at his clinic or see Dr. Faulkner? What are the things that I should be asking to do? We already talked on the glycan age. That was the very first thing. I highly recommend that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and going back five weeks, we talked about the Function Health Hyman Labs, which I think is the most effective at the right price of $500 a year that gives you the most info. So they will give you a handful of that stuff. But getting more specific to the heart, there might be some add-ons that you have to pay for in addition.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
They’ll give you a basic panel of total cholesterol, HDL, LDL, triglycerides. They’ll give you the ApoB that we talked about. And then there’s a few others that you should be looking at. One is they call it LP little a. So lipoprotein parentheses little a. That’s another important marker that you should be looking for that they’ll give you. And another one that crosses all kinds of boundaries, but the heart is the first focus is high sensitivity C-reactive protein or HSCRP. That is going to tell you all kinds of information about heart health, inflammatory markers, potential autoimmune disease. But heart is the kind of the main focus there. And then if you really want to geek out like I did and look even deeper, you can start to look at certain genotypes. Like you got this, you know, atrial fibrillation gene from mom, this one from dad. Here’s your risk from mom, from dad. Do they look good? Do they look great? Do they look questionable? That’s a little bit deeper along the journey. But I think the ones we just mentioned, in addition to what they call LP-PLA2 activity. True. that and the myeloperoxidase the MPO that and there you go and the myeloperoxidase so those ones are kind of your baseline starting point you need to know what those numbers are and we can talk about what you do about them if they’re good sometimes or if they’re bad I’m sorry and sometimes if they’re good you want to keep them good and there’s ways to do that too so yeah get the heart biomarkers looked at ApoB is by far the easiest and most important and then the others that we just mentioned you can go back and kind of note those down
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And so James, in your guys’ clinic, I know Dr. Mark Hyman, he does a great job, but he has a waiting list and the hundreds of thousands of people wanting to get these biomarkers or labs. They’re a great price. I offer my clinic through Quest. I beat them up on price to get most of the biomarkers that Mark Hyman does. Oh, that’s great. Not quite all, but most of them. And the cash price is so low. It’s amazing. What do you guys do in your clinic?
SPEAKER 04 :
So we, yeah, we’ll do quest. We’ll do lab core. We’ll do, uh, Rupa health a lot, which is, you know, a company that you can have go online, pay for a certain package of labs that, that whatever we recommend and they will ship you, uh, a box essentially with a lab draw kit that you could take into any lab services. So pretty convenient for that. Um, and then we use access medical, which is all cash based out of pocket and, Essentially, you can just pick any lab that we want. We have certain panels that we have contracted prices through to keep the cost down for our patients. But ultimately, at least at our clinic, we want you to invest your time and money into your health. And so our lab prices are driven down intentionally. just at our office for barely making profit on labs. I mean, we don’t mark our labs up significantly like some offices do because if you’re spending $800 on labs, okay, it’s super important like we’re talking about, but now… You’re just upset, you’re frustrated, financially burdened, where I just spent all this and now you want me to start treatment. For a lot of individuals, that’s a tough pill to swallow. But it’s a necessary evil. You have to pay for the lapse.
SPEAKER 20 :
At least once. You should do it every year, but at least once to get your baseline. What’s wrong and what you should be focusing on. For instance… Once you look at this stuff, you’re going to say, oh, well, my cholesterol has always been good. My total, my LDL, my HDL, my triglycerides. But all of a sudden, I’m seeing some bad markers. That’s why you’re peeling the onion back more. And now where I’m at is I’m finding out that I have some… particle size issues in the LDL, small lipodensity protein particles. So what you want is big, soft beach ball particles rolling around and bouncing versus like tiny golf ball particles. Think you’d hit in the head with a beach ball. It doesn’t hurt. You get hit in the head with a golf ball. It hurts. So you need to convert your golf balls to beach balls. That’s my next phase. After I got all the stuff we just talked about in line. So there’s more as you go down the road to get things in line to prevent heart disease.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, fantastic. Thank you, guys. So, Jeremy, then we talked about the brain. So what are some of the things that you’ve done that the lay person out there listening can do to get their brain either imaged or tested?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, so the first thing we mentioned is the APOE genotype or allele. Any of these labs can do it. You just got to get your doc to ask for it. And that will tell you right away what your risk factor is for brain disease. And once you know that, you can say, okay, I’m low risk, medium risk, high risk. And if you’re medium risk or high risk, then you probably need to streamline some more interventional therapies to help prevent it over time. Because like we said, these brain diseases are more disease of choice these days. Um, in addition to that, you can get a functional brain MRI. Let’s say you’ve had some, some traumatic brain injuries or some concussions and you want to see if there’s been head trauma or damage. Um, that’s taking things to an imaging level, but I would say for the purposes of just trying to figure out what’s going on inside your body, that APOE test will tell you quite a bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So do you do any special imaging for people’s brains?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Upon request. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So whether it’s, you know, CT scans, MRIs, you know, we’ve been doing a lot of the full body MRIs lately. Um, and so, yeah, really, like I said, I mean, it’s tough when you have an initial consultation with a patient, you try to keep it as minimal as possible, but as informational and broad at the same time, right? You don’t want to feel like you’re overselling your patients on all these services that you offer, overwhelming them with everything that we have. So within reason we, you know, and for right patients, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So I’m hearing the music. We didn’t get a chance to talk about a whole body MRI, but when we come back in the next hour, we’re going to start with metabolic health. And again, do that deep dive. What can people do for their metabolic health? Because it’s so important. So thank you for listening to hour one. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush. We’ll be back shortly for hour two.
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