John Rush continues the talks from Fix-It Radio before giving tips on the preparation and maintenance of a vehicle for road trips. Is it a time to replace a water pump, or just check its functionality?
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Okay, I might as well start off here with what we’ve continued on with or what we’re going to continue on with from Fix It Radio. So those of you that are listening to Drive Radio fresh, for Fix It Radio, we did a lot of conversation on decluttering, getting rid of stuff and so on. And I closed with there’s several apps. And somebody asked me, have I picked one yet? No, I have not. I’m still doing some research on which one I think is best. I think I’ve narrowed it down, but I’ll tell you for sure once I get it all dialed in, this is going to be one of my fall-winter projects. And why I’m going to say this on Drive Radio is because even for a lot of you that have tools and toolboxes and you’ve got miscellaneous drawers that have stuff in it or you’ve got the the drawer systems whereby you know you’ve got everything kind of filed away so this has you know sheet metal screws and this has you know three inch screws and this one has two inch screws and so on you’re always sliding every drawer out to see what’s inside of it i mean anytime you go to look for something guess what you’re doing you’re sliding 15 drawers out to find what you’re wanting This system gives you a small enough barcode, and you’ve got to buy like a portable printer, which, by the way, they’re cheap now. You can buy these portable printers from anywhere from $30 to $50, depending on how fancy you want to get. They’re thermal paper, which… There’s a lot of people out there that tell you not to touch thermal paper. You know what? I got more things to worry about than touching thermal paper. I’m sorry. There’s enough other things in the world that are going to kill me than thermal paper, so I am not worried about thermal paper. So some of you may be. I’m not. If it’s thermal paper and I can stick it on something, I could care less. If I can print a label and put it on there and then know what I’m looking for, and these apps that I’m talking about, even in the 30-drawer system, you could literally barcode each one of those drawers and know exactly what’s inside of it. Or maybe you want to just barcode the whole thing because you’ve got nothing but miscellaneous whatever inside of that. But I don’t know about the rest of you, but… and maybe this is just me, and my dad had a bunch of these, and I’m going to try to consolidate these. I hate those stupid little clear drawer pull-out things. I despise those things with a passion, mainly because you can’t hardly get much in them, and then you end up mixing things together because what won’t fit in one drawer, the next drawer it does, but then it had something else in it, so now it becomes a hodgepodge. And now every time you go to look at something, you’re literally, you know, there might be 30, 30 of these little bins in that little metal cabinet thing and you’re literally pulling out every one of those to see what’s inside of it it’s a pain in the rear and half the time you go buy what you need you probably had it but you can’t find it because you don’t know which drawer it’s in it’s a i hate those things so i am one of those that i despise those i yet have figured out so some of you’re going to say okay so then what do you use john i don’t know yet I haven’t got that far. I’m trying to figure out what sort of an organizing system, even for nuts and bolts and screws. I do like, because this comes out of the automotive world, but not everybody has access to these, and they’re super expensive to go by. I love the metal pull-out drawers. In all shops, Steve is over here looking at me like, yep, he’s nodding because he knows exactly what I mean. Tons and tons of those. Those are hard to find. and are not readily available for the regular homeowner. Let me just say it that way. And the ones that you do find are probably going to be plastic, not metal. The plastic’s okay. They’re a little bit lighter weight, but they don’t necessarily hold up as well as the steel ones do. So when you’re trying to organize screws and things and so on, I love the drawers. They work great. I have about eight of them is all. And they’re so nice that you can actually hang them on the bottom of a cabinet where they’re now at chest height where you can see in them very well. I love those. My problem is I don’t have enough of them because I brought all this stuff from my dad back. And those are the kinds of things where I don’t just throw all that hardware away. I do think there’s some value in some hardware because about the time you go to fix something and you need something and you know where that’s at and you can go pull it, it makes life so much easier than having to run down to the store, buy something, come back. and maybe not even have exactly what you need. I probably have as many odds and ends as Home Depot does as far as fixing things go because of what we’re talking about. So the QR or the barcode slash QR code app system that I was mentioning in Fix-It Radio, once I settle on the one that I’m using, I will let you all know, and you can do your own research and kind of figure out what works for you as well. But somebody just said, too, by the way, that they think they can probably get $800 to $1,000 a month just on the junk that they sell. Yeah, I think that you’re – we all can. Everybody’s got junk they don’t need. And, again, carrying this over to Drive Radio, because for a lot of you, I’m a big one, as you guys all know, on parking in the garage, especially in winter. And here’s what I’ll tell you on that. Once you start, you can’t go without. Am I right, Steve? When you get to the point where you’re able to park in the garage and it’s zero out or it’s even 30 degrees out and it’s snowing and everybody, all your neighbors are scraping off their cars to go someplace and all you do is pull out, you will thank me. And most people can’t pull in their garage because they have too much crap. I’m just being straight up honest, folks. We’re going back to what we talked about on Fix It Radio. Literally, they can’t park in the garage because there’s too much crap. And one thing that I’m always reminding myself of, every square inch of everything costs money. Your house on a per square foot basis, whether you own it, whether you own it outright, whether you’re renting, whether you’re making a mortgage payment, doesn’t matter. Every square inch of that place costs money because even if it’s paid for, you’re paying property taxes and insurance. So every square inch has a cost to it. So what you really should do is sit down and figure out on a per square inch basis what’s it costing you. And as you’re storing said item, now you know exactly what that item is costing you to store based upon what I just said. And you might think twice about what you keep. Sure. Because there is a cost to that. And in my case, I am not parking outside. I will throw crap out to be able to park in the garage because I’m not parking outside. I have gotten so spoiled over the years by being able to park inside that I will not accumulate enough stuff to not park in the garage. i just won’t do it um i and i’m not getting a storage unit either that’s another thing i vowed i am not doing ever uh i had one once as a business because i was running around running out of room in the business so i had a storage unit to put some of our leftover you know equipment you only use at certain times of the year and things like that and i will tell you straight up biggest pain in the neck and you end up filling it up with nothing but junk So I learned right off the bat in that time frame. I had one for about two years. I’ll never have one ever again. It is something I vowed in my life to never own or rent again is a storage unit because all it does is become a crap collector. You just pour your money down the drain. All you do is throw junk in it that you’re never going to use or see anyways. We sit above them here at our station. We look out, and I don’t know, guys, what, there’s probably a couple hundred units here to the west of us. And I watch people come and go throughout the week, throughout the day on Saturday and so on. And I always wonder, do you really ever use any of that stuff? Or does it just – I mean, you guys have all seen the storage wars and all of that throughout the years, the reality shows and so on. And for the most part, folks – There are some business owners that might use one and do it the right way where they go and they pick up stuff and so on. I’ve got a client of mine that uses one and does a very good job of keeping it organized. Inventory is there. It’s how she does all of what she needs to do and she uses it the right way. But even I think she will say that if she had her ability to have more room in her own store, to not have to have a storage unit. She would rather have that because it’s so much of a hassle to go get stuff in and out of the storage unit. It’s a pain in the rear. Even though in her case, it’s literally next door.
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I was thinking like some of the plumbers and electricians, you know, they’re in there grading so they don’t have to go pick it up from a certain supplier.
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It’s more centrally located. Yeah. That’s probably an exception to that. And on the same token, my advice even to some of those folks are I think you would find yourself saving money over time in maybe even for a plumber and electrician where you’re doing this on your own. You know what? Maybe you should move. What I mean by that is for the little bit more money in-house that you might actually buy – If you raised your payment by $300, $400, $500 a month that had the ability to have that storage unit space on your own site, you’ve got to factor in how much time it’s taking you to even go to that storage unit on a routine basis. And at the end of the day, could you do that at home easier than you could do by having a storage unit? That’s just a little piece of advice for somebody that’s in that world.
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Instead, when you’re leaving for the job in the morning, you’re picking up the extra things you need instead of going to two places. Right.
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You could sit down and do the math on what is that time costing you and probably move and be money ahead when it’s all said and by the way, build more equity and so on in your home versus somebody else’s storage unit that you’re paying for because you don’t own it. You’re renting it. So food for thought. That’s kind of a continuation of what we were talking about in Fix-It Radio. Once I figure out what app I’m actually going to use and how to work some of this, believe me, I will let you all know whether it’s on Fix-It Radio or here on Drive Radio because it kind of applies to both. And this is a Drive Radio thing. And I did get somebody that commented back that they still use all air tools. They like the sound. They like how they work and so on. If that’s you, that’s great. And by the way, if you’re somebody still using them, you can pick up used air tools for pennies on the dollar because the majority of technicians in that are not using them any longer. They will be disposing of said items, and there’s a reason for that. Keep in mind, air tools always required maintenance, and you had to oil them, and there’s different things you had to do along those lines. These electric ones, they will last years and years and years and years and years, and all you do is put a battery on them. Mm-hmm. And it’s literally that easy.
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The other place on this app you’re talking about is, you know, we have so many specialty tools. You could do it that way, too. Or just things that we have for the shop that maybe the guys don’t have on their own. But I put them in cabinets. I have them labeled. And I have them, you know, drawer two has this or shelf two has those. But I’m thinking… That app would fix all that. They could just go, oh, that’s where it is, as long as they put it back. Yeah, thank you.
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You’ve got to follow the rules. Yeah, the whole key to this, even what we were talking about personally at home, is when you pull that item out, and it’s one of those items that’s going to go back in, or if you pull it out and it’s gone, then make sure you make an adjustment in your description so that that item is no longer there. All right, Drive Radio, we’ll be back in a moment. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno’s Auto Service. Don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back. This is KLZ 560.
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Yes, I’ve got a F-150. It’s got 175,000 miles on it. It’s never had a water pump replaced, and I’m going to be taking a couple trips with it here shortly. I was wondering, how long do those things last?
SPEAKER 15 :
How often have you done coolant services in your maintenance, Rich?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I change the oil every 5,000 miles on it, all this sort of stuff, and I’ve had a I’ve had belts put on, this type of stuff. I don’t know if I’ve ever had any hoses put on. Okay.
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I think you’re at a point where, you know, when you’re close to Arvada West, being in Arvada, I would have that gone over if you’re going to take a long trip. I wouldn’t necessarily replace a water pump just to replace it for time. You can check it. They can see if it’s loose, if the bearings are tight and all of that. I would especially, though, look at just coolant overall, what condition are the hoses in and all of that because you wouldn’t want to have a problem out on the road. And you’re at mileage where I would definitely be looking at that really closely.
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Okay. They can check the water pump to see if the bearings are tight. They sure can.
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They can feel it. They also look at that weep hole, you know, if it’s exposed. You can see the zing leaking out of it. If it shows a little stain, then maybe I would do it. Yep. But if it shows clean, I mean.
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If it’s clean and the bearing’s tight, Rich, even at 175, I don’t think I’d put a water pump on it just for time. But I would be looking at the rest of the coolant. How does the radiator look? Does everything look nice and clean? You know, the hoses. Truthfully, if they’re original hoses and they’ve never been replaced, I would be putting hoses on it, period.
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Any more, we’re doing more radiators than water pumps. At 175, I would for sure do that. You know, because the radiators are made of plastic and aluminum, and so they’re heating and expanding. And so we do almost two radiators to one water pump these days.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I keep up on the flushing on the radiator, this type of stuff.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good, good, good. That’s probably why you haven’t had any issues, you know, water pump-wise. Rich, if you’re keeping up on all of that, that’s a good thing. Hoses, though, even though you’re keeping up on it, they’re still deteriorating over time. And I didn’t hear, what year is it, Rich? It’s 2011. Okay, so if it never has had hoses, it’s now 15 years old because 2026s are starting to roll out, so it’s 15 years old. Yes, with that kind of miles, I would put hoses on it. Even if you weren’t going on a trip, it needs hoses.
SPEAKER 04 :
Uh-huh. Those hoses, do they slow fall from the inside? Yes. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Especially on these newer rubber compounds we’ve had, even when your truck was built, it’s even hard with a squeeze test to really see what’s the inside of that hose look like. I’m just telling you, on a 2011, at 175, if they’re original, they need replaced.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. And then also, can I get original equipment for that?
SPEAKER 15 :
If you want, but keep in mind, Ford doesn’t build its own hoses. So Gates or Goodyear or somebody is building those hoses for them. They are not building their own hoses. So as long as you get a good aftermarket Gates, Goodyear, I have no problem with either one of those. They would either be fine. Because again, Ford is not building its own hose.
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How about the water pump itself? I don’t know.
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I would try to go OEM if you can get one, although in a 2011, that’s another one of those where it’ll be a motocraft, but motocrafts, they don’t build their own parts. Somebody’s building that for them, and in some cases, it may not be any different than what pulls out of a Napa box.
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Is that right? Uh-huh. As long as it’s new.
SPEAKER 15 :
Don’t buy anything remanufactured or rebuilt. New water pumps only ever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Three years ago… I was on the road in Iowa, and the alternator locked up, and I had it hauled in, and they replaced that. And they were charging the same price as when I called Ford for the same price for dealerships. So they might have been getting it from the same place. I don’t know. It was exactly the same price. And a year and one month out, it went out again here in the Denver area. And so I don’t know if that was the original equipment ordinary they put in or where they got the thing from, you know.
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So just a tip for you. So the shop that you went to in Iowa, was it a Napa Auto Care?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, it was not. They didn’t have much of a choice at the time.
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Sure. And the only reason I say that is if it’s a Napa Auto Care and they’re a gold, you get a 3 or 36 nationwide warranty. So you could have taken that in, you know, if you were lucky enough to be at a. NAPA Auto Care. And you can take it in any other shop across the country. At least you would have had some kind of warranty. And most of them do two-year 24 and some do three-year 36. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. All right. And so still might be able to get original equipment for that if I have that…
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, Ford’s really funny about, you know, after about 10 years, they’re hard to get, some of the original stuff. They are really quick to switch out, to just stop making it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, really. What they do use, are they pretty good, or is it, you know, junk stuff, you know?
SPEAKER 16 :
As far as…
SPEAKER 04 :
As far as quality?
SPEAKER 16 :
As far as aftermarket or Ford stuff?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, or Ford stuff if you get it through Ford, even though they’re not making it themselves. It’s generally good. It’s good stuff.
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They generally have a high RFP request for proposal on parts. Now, to say that, Rich, and for everybody else listening, doesn’t mean that every single dealer part is going to be better than the aftermarket or vice versa. This is where you kind of got to know the industry and know that particular part and which one is better. I’ll give you a good example. Years ago, and some of this is still true today. Jeep, they had a four-liter engine back in the day that used to have exhaust manifolds that cracked something fierce. And if you bought the factory manifold, guess what? It was going to crack just like the one you took off did. The aftermarket came up with a much better unit that had an ability for the manifold to move some, whereby it wouldn’t crack with the heat. And that was an example of the aftermarket having a better part than what the factory had. So it really comes down to the part, Rich. And a good auto care center, by the way, will know the things I’m talking about on the vehicle that you’re looking at, knowing that we only use this part for this reason. And for all of you listening, this is kind of for everybody that’s out there, when a shop tells you that, please pay attention and listen to that. When they say, hey, we know that we can get this part from X, but this part over here is far superior, and this is what we choose, and it might take us a day to get it, let them take the day to get it. You’re much better off doing that than using whatever part might be handy.
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And, you know, it’s true when you go to Arvada West, it’s going to be a 3 or 36. Exactly. And they’re going to have a good part. And if you’re on your trip and something fails that they’ve done, you’re covered. That’s right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we’re right close to them, too, within a mile of them.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re Rich, and Rich is running Arvada West. So just go over and talk to Richie, and he’ll get you handled.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great. And then also, can a person tell I’ve got a vehicle, a new vehicle, has a turbo? charge in it. And can you tell, are those things on all the time or do they just kick on when you accelerate or at a certain speed?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they’re always spinning. But they’re spinning faster, obviously, as you go faster.
SPEAKER 15 :
They run off exhaust, Rich. The way a turbocharger works is there’s two vanes with a shaft in between the two. One of those shafts, the exhaust is running, and that’s what’s spinning the other shaft. It’s sucking more air in and pushing that into the engine. So it’s always running, and it runs faster. The higher the RPM of the engine, the more exhaust is being run through.
SPEAKER 16 :
And the only thing that’s changing is they’re determining how much of that fresh air is being pumped into the engine. Either they’re bypassing it or they’re dumping more in, depending on what your requests are.
SPEAKER 15 :
In a lot of the newer turbos, Rich, they have variable vanes and all sorts of fancy things that make it produce more or less boost, depending upon what’s going on and so on. But to your point, they’re always running.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, and then do you need to let the engine cool down a little bit before you turn it off on those things?
SPEAKER 15 :
Anymore, not as big of a deal as it used to be. They’ve redesigned even the way the turbos work, the bearings, the oil supply system, and so on. If you’ve gone up Eisenhower Tunnel and you’re all the way to the top and you want to pull over and look at the mountain goats or whatever that are there at that point in time, my suggestion then is yes, let it cool off for just a few minutes before you just shut it off. Any other time, Rich, you can shut it off and it’s not a problem.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think it’s real super critical making sure you’re using the right oil. That’s right. And the right intervals and all of that. Intervals and full synthetic and those kind of things. Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I understand this one has an oil cooler on it too, so I guess that helps. Yes. Okay, and then on the F-150, sorry, taking so long.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you’re fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go right ahead. You’re fine. I’ve got 175,000 on it. How many more miles? It doesn’t hardly use any oil at all. Great. You know, I’ve always changed it really good, and a lot of highway miles on it. How long could I expect that engine to last?
SPEAKER 15 :
Twice as much as you’ve got on it now, pretty easily.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I mean, honestly, Rich, it’s not like the old days where, you know, at 100K you had to do a lot of engine work. Back when I was a kid, engines didn’t hardly last much longer than that. In today’s world, I mean, you will find all over the Internet used trucks like yours being sold with that kind of mileage on them. And I’m guessing that the year of yours and the mileage, you’ve had to have a good portion of that be highway miles. Am I right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the way I’ve always said it to people is if it’s a vehicle that’s driven mostly on the highway, you can darn near. It’s not quite one for one, but it’s pretty close. If you take a vehicle that’s got 200,000 highway miles, it’s like 100,000 city miles. You can almost cut it in half, Rich.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. Because that highway is so much easier on the vehicle than city driving. Not just the engine, but it’s the brakes, it’s the transmission, it’s everything. You’re just rolling along, and in your case, with an overdrive transmission, that engine’s not turning more than probably 1,800 or so RPM. Just rolling right along, and everything’s nice and steady, and you’re not in stop-and-go traffic. I mean, that’s what makes things last a long time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, then. Well, thank you very much for your information.
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re very welcome, Rich. Great questions, by the way. And, yeah, go to Arvada West. Rich over there will be happy to take care of you. Let’s squeeze John in before we go to break. John, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, morning, guys. Hey, I have a 2008 Saturn Sky, a little two-door convertible. Okay. In the rear diff, it calls, you know, when you change it, the fluid to add a friction modifier.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s got a limited slip differential.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Yep. Is this something that I should use the GM product?
SPEAKER 15 :
If you can find it, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
What do you guys recommend?
SPEAKER 15 :
On GM units, in fact, this is a little side note to all of you listening. I have always, and I did a lot of differential work back in the day with my shops because of what we did in the four-wheel drive world and so on, and I’ve been working on differentials since I was literally… I mean, clear back in the early 80s, John. And I always, even in my shops when we did any kind of differential work with a limited slip, I stocked the GM fluid on purpose. Not that the aftermarket side doesn’t have good stuff, but I always have felt like GM builds some of the best friction modifiers out there. So I have always used the GM, even in other products, Ford, Jeep, whatever. I’ve always used the GM because it is almost flawless.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great. And I know I’ve, This car has been at Steve’s shop a few times. Oh, yeah. I know which one you’re talking about. Do you guys have the GM stuff and you could do that for me?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. No, if I don’t, I’ll get it. It’s just personal preference on my part, John. I guess maybe growing up in the GM world and doing as much diff work as I did, I just never had any issues. Not saying that Fords and Chryslers and everybody else’s isn’t as good, but there was something about the GM friction modifier that just worked really well. And I think some of that was because when they had their governor lock units, which was unique to GM, nobody else had a governor lock unit. I think their friction modifier works a little bit better because it’s meant to work with that differential, meaning it’ll work in everything else.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s calling for a 7590 synthetic, which I have, but, you know, it might be in your case. I might just order some from GM, make sure I have it. I mean, what were you talking, half a quart or a quart? Yeah, maybe two quarts, we’ll see.
SPEAKER 07 :
Awesome. Well, I’ll give you a call next week. Sure. No problem. Thanks, John. Thank you. You bet.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, John, appreciate that. Great question, by the way. For those of you doing some of that at home, that was a great question. All right, Derek and Parker, hang tight. We’ll come right back to your question. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno’s Auto Service. Larry Unger, of course, answering phones today. And Charlie Grimes. I should say this quickly also. We had a lot of people that came by the remotes the last two weeks when we were out and about and really enjoyed meeting everybody. For those of you that came by and said hi, thank you so much. We had just a great time with you and always a joy to be out and about and have people come by and put a face with a voice and all of that. So very much enjoyed that. So thank you so much for coming. All of you coming by and doing that, I cannot stress that enough. I really do appreciate it. One last thing. I had a lot of people that came by that said, hey, thanks for what you do. And here’s what my response back was. You’re very welcome, but don’t thank me. Thank the Genos of the world and all of our sponsors that make this show happen on a weekly basis. They’re the ones you should really thank because they’re the ones that pay to make this happen weekly. Airtime costs money, and without all of them, we wouldn’t do this. So I mean that sincerely, and I’ve even told people at times, even if you don’t need something, But say you’re in the area and you want to just stop by and say hi to Steve and, hey, thanks for doing the radio. We appreciate that. All of my sponsors would greatly, even if you don’t need anything from, even if it’s a voicemail message saying, hey, thanks for supporting Drive Radio and John. We really appreciate it. I can’t tell you how far that goes with some of them. And they’re the ones I should say to thank. Don’t thank me. Thank them. Because without them, we don’t do this on a weekly basis. And I mean that sincerely. So Derek and Parker, you’re next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, thank you for taking my call. I have a 2005 GMC Sierra, three-quarter ton with a 6.6 liter Duramax. It’s the LLY. I had the head gaskets done by Xtreme. They did ARP headsteads, MOLLE head gaskets, probably about two years ago. I was driving my about 9,000-pound camper up to high country, up I-70 this week. when it was real hot out. As I was doing that long pull up, that grade there, it started to get real toasty. I ended up getting that engine coolant heat high alert. Once I let off the gas, let it go, kind of cruise, it cooled down appropriately. It’s not overheating like a head gasket or anything like that. My thought was doing research online, it sounds like that was the smallest radiator they made in any of the Duramaxes. And I was looking to maybe do like an auxiliary radiator or maybe a oil cooler. And I was looking online. They have a kit available, but it’s pretty pricey, about $2,600 for the radiator. But doing like a universal Mishimoto, you know, with that sandwich plate on the oil filter, that’s probably about $500, $600. And I was going to see if. If it was you, what would you do to try to increase the cooling capacity?
SPEAKER 15 :
First things first, have you done any other upgrades? Is it tuned, anything along those lines where it may be upping our temps?
SPEAKER 05 :
Nope, everything’s stock on it. The only thing I’m planning on doing is they say you can do an LBZ. I actually already have the LBZ mouthpiece for the turbo inlet because that was also very restrictive on those years. So I was probably going to do that, but everything I read online said it. It helps with the turbo spool up, but it doesn’t really do a whole lot for the power.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s not going to help with the cooling, no. If anything, it’s going to make more power, so it might actually make that worse, actually, believe it or not.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, which is, of course, the opposite direction of what I’m wanting to do. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I would fix the cooling side of it first, and I think I would be more inclined. I wouldn’t spend the $2,600. I think I would be more inclined to do the upgraded radiator. You’re going to get some… cooling uh you know better cooling out of doing an oil cooler upgrade although i think derrick it’s going to be nominal when it’s all said and done you just flat need more radiator capacity period the problem that happens to this is everything this thing that gm even didn’t think about back in the day the higher up you go the thinner the air gets you’re not moving as much through there that’s why we need more capacity makes sense did i lose your derrick Nope. Derek, are you there? Okay, I’m going to put Derek back on hold because I want to talk to him and finish that up. So we’ll have Larry see if we can’t get Derek back on the horn. Stuart, I’ll get you in really quick. Go ahead, Stuart.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, good morning, guys. Glad to talk to you. Hope you’re all doing well.
SPEAKER 15 :
You bet. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
I just want to give a shout out to Gino and Steve. I mean, I had a situation. My old Hyundai, you guys were talking about motors that can go a long ways. I got over 278,000 on this dog. It’s an 09. Haven’t had any work done to the motor, hadn’t any work done to the tranny. I’ve had some other work done, you know, suspension and things like that. But I think this thing runs. It just runs, runs, runs. And doesn’t use a drop of oil. But anyway, we were on our way to Iowa for a family visitation when my uncle passed away. And we traded drivers in York with my wife. And I keep kidding her about it because it’s all her fault. But anyway, to make a long story short, something started running real rough. And so we limped into York and found a mechanic there on a Friday afternoon, about 2.30, and he checked it out, and he goes, well, he says, out of these six plugs, he says, you got one that’s an old plug. I said, well, that can’t be. I said, you know, the guy down in Littleton over there, Gino, as I said, they put a new set of plugs in this thing, and it was running great all the way down here. I mean, you know, that’s about it. seven-hour trip to york right so anyway come to find out that is ngk plugs which is the ones i think that came with a vehicle from the factory anyway steve and his people there they backed the whole mcgilla they paid for all the shop fees and the new plugs and reinstall and everything and we got on our merry way And we just found out it was just a bad plug that nobody could have ever known.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it happens.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it happens.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s what I was saying earlier, Stuart. I remember that story. That’s what I was saying earlier, Stuart, about parts. I mean, they’re all made by men and things happen. Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and Steve and John, they took care of it, and I tell you, it’s a great shop. So everybody on the south end, if you don’t go to Geno’s, you’re going the wrong door.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, Stuart. And tell Sherry I’m looking forward to try to have her do the flowers for my daughter’s wedding. Hopefully she’ll get married in the spring or summer next year. So I’ll be in touch with Sherry soon about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, you got it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Stuart, you’re a good man. Appreciate you very much. Great trip. Thank you for that. Okay, Derek, you’re back. Derek, are you with us now? Are you back? Yeah, sorry about that. No, no, no, you’re fine. What I was saying right before you dropped is, for me, and again, because of the altitude, and that’s one thing that even a lot of the manufacturers, why they do some high-altitude testing here in Colorado is for the very thing that you’re encountering. As we get higher up, especially on hot days, there’s less air. You’re not pushing as much through. All of that combined is just the perfect storm to just not have enough cooling capacity. So while you’ll get some out of the oil cooler, it’s fine. Personally, not going to be enough in my opinion. If you want to do it, just keep the oil cool, fine. But I wouldn’t do it to lower engine temperature. Your best bet is just to increase radiator capacity.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Now, could I talk to a shop and would they be able to kind of help guide me as far as? Like adding on that auxiliary radiator just so it runs it in the radiator?
SPEAKER 15 :
If I were me, I would just do the complete, as you said, Yamishimoto and others make a higher capacity radiator itself where it’s not even an add-on. It’s actually a replacement for what you’ve got. That’s what I would do. Okay. And you can do those through Yamashimoto, Extreme Diesel. As you know, there’s multiples of those out there that are made, and I don’t know who’s making them for the majority of those. I haven’t researched that out. There’s probably one radiator company making the majority of those aftermarket radiators for all the guys putting their own name on them because not that many people make radiators is my point.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I wouldn’t think that a new radiator would take up any more space than the old one. It’s just thicker.
SPEAKER 15 :
One more row or two more rows, whatever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, okay. And I don’t remember because it’s been a while since I’ve looked at an 05. Does that have the plastic tanks on it or is it a full?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it’s got plastic. That’s what I thought, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And putting a full aluminum radiator with, you know, bigger capacity tanks on the side is going to increase the capacity of the cooling system itself as well and so on.
SPEAKER 16 :
What kind of cooling fan does it have? Is it a clutch fan or is it electric? I was heading there to make sure that’s working right too.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s a clutch fan. Yeah, clutch fan and the prior owner put in one of those Haydens that kicks on at 180, so it kicks on sooner.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you hear it coming in, I assume? What? Do you hear it coming in, I assume?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, yes, I do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I just replaced the 17 belt and all the hardware that came with it because it decided to delete itself. Awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, as you know, and if you do any kind of research on this, there are tons of radiators made for that vehicle. So that was a, as you well know, that was a weak point in that truck. So if it were me, I would just put a larger capacity radiator in it. And it looks like that’s about $1,000, but that’s still cheaper than some of the other options.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it is. And like I said, I just don’t want to have to turn on the heat when I’m going up those hills. I don’t blame you. Absolutely. For a 9,000-pound trailer, the truck still doesn’t know it’s there. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s got all the power in the world. Right. Got to keep the heat down. Yep. Yeah, in reality, Derek, if you were down in the Smoky Mountains or someplace where there’s a lot of air, you’d probably never know that it’s only up here that that’s a problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that makes complete sense. I appreciate you educating me on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, you’re very welcome.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, thank you, and have a good day.
SPEAKER 15 :
You bet, Eric. Derek, thank you very much. Great call, by the way. All right, we’ll take a break. Brenton Littleton, hang tight. We’ll come right back to you. 307-200-8222 is our text line. You can call us directly, get a question answered live, 303-477-5600. Myself and Steve will be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Brent Littleton, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi, it’s me again. Hey, Brent. How are you, sir? Hi, with Ford Fusion. So I have some interesting news. Got some updates? I took it up to the air care… place where they can take a, you know, the tech can take a look at it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
The engines were applying, everything points toward something with the turbo system.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so I checked for, uh, leaks on the tube that’s coming out of the turbo to the air intake. And I found some leaks.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I, I tighten those down, uh, put a little RTV around it to seal up the part. Now, um, One of the places is where it’s… So, if the turbo has too much pressure, it’s supposed to open a little valve, and then it goes back into the air intake. It’s like a bypass, is what it’s called.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wastegate. Yeah, wastegate, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I thought the wastegate’s on the actual turbo itself.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, this is on the tube?
SPEAKER 06 :
This is on the tube.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so… that part when i was testing it and blowing into the tube i could hear that it was passing it and so i felt like on where the piece of plastic on the solenoid is supposed to hit the other piece there should be like a round like gasket there there’s not because it just goes right through like huh that’s interesting and then um so i try to make my own put a little rtv on it But I also thought, you know, I’m going to test this out. So I put duct tape on that. I clamped it back down. The thing ran like a champ, ran like it’s normally supposed to. And then when I was on the highway, the duct tape and that kind of popped itself off. And then I got the low pressure. So then I decided I’m going to try this without duct tape. just stock without that hose being duct taped that goes directly to the air intake and that’s the valve, right? It was gutless wonder. It didn’t have any pressure within two minutes of driving, low EcoBoost pressure. So I’m pretty sure that’s where my failure is with this whole thing because I don’t think if the turbo was bad, it would be acting like normal. I mean, I was revving it, you know, hot rodding it just to test, and it was handling all up until, you know, 40 minutes later on the highway when probably the duct tape started getting warm and it started loosening up and sliding off a little bit and created a little hole. So I don’t know what to do now because I’m pretty sure it’s that part. What year is it?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t remember, Brent. What year is this?
SPEAKER 1 :
2014.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, I couldn’t remember. I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you’re fine. So I don’t know if that solenoid’s not working right or the one I bought is not really the one matched up. Because there’s a 1.5, a 2.0, and a 1.6 turbo. And supposedly I bought the right solenoid for that, but I don’t know.
SPEAKER 15 :
And which one is yours?
SPEAKER 06 :
Mine’s a 1.5. 1.5, okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I’m pretty sure that’s where the problem is because I think if the turbo itself was bad, that would never have done – that would still be a laggy even if I didn’t cover that hole. So it proved to me that that is where it’s leaking from. That’s where the turbo leak is coming from. And so, yeah, that’s where I’m at.
SPEAKER 15 :
In your mixture I’m following, you’re talking about the tube coming out of the turbo into the intake, correct?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and there’s a plastic tube, and on that is the MAP sensor. Yeah, that would make sense. There is an airflow sensor in there, and then there’s that valve that detects the pressure. I think it’s opening up way too early. It’s not sensing correctly, but if it’s the wrong sensor and I put something in with the wrong sensor, type of ohms reading and the computer’s reading that, it thinks it’s higher pressure than it is. So that’s one thing I was thinking maybe could be or for just something stupid.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, well, I think you’re on the right track of it’s something’s not, something’s releasing the pressure too soon, which means that you’re not getting full turbo boost. That’s why you’re getting the check engine light like you are.
SPEAKER 16 :
And what’s controlling that sensor? Is it electrical or is it vacuum controlled?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no. It’s electrical.
SPEAKER 15 :
I guess this is where, and I can’t remember, Brent, have you put a full bore scan tool on it or just a code reader?
SPEAKER 06 :
I have a live data and that guy that over at the center. He put one on and he got the freeze frame and he talked to me about that. And he said, yeah, there’s nothing wrong with the engine. Everything’s showing fine. And oh, by the way, I pulled out the spark plugs and there’s no more oil in the spark plugs. It was at a time, and that was another problem.
SPEAKER 15 :
So the reason I ask on the full-bore scan tool is to be able to read, is something signaling that valve to work correctly or not? When is it supposed to be open and closed, and can we read that and see that is my question. Does your device allow that is my question, because a regular OEM-type scan tool would. Does yours is the question.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t 100%. Now I can tell you which one I have. I don’t know if you’d be able to help me tell me that or not. It was like a $700 scan tool, so it can do live data and all that type of stuff. So it might have the capabilities, but I don’t know how.
SPEAKER 15 :
What did you buy?
SPEAKER 06 :
A Fox, I think, a Foxconn or…
SPEAKER 15 :
Give me a moment here. Because I could do some research probably even through the top of the hour and see if we can maybe figure that out. I mean, and again, without looking that up, I don’t know. Not all, I mean, some scan tools do a really good job. They’ll give you a lot of data where you can utilize some of that. But some of them, and by the way, this is true even in the aftermarket for Steve’s and other shops sometimes it’s the oem scanner that you actually have to have to really see some integral things going on in the system even though some of the other high-end you know autel snap-on and so on will not get that intricate like the oem tool does won’t let you control the same things even that the oem tool does that’s where a lot of the shops out there actually go and buy the oem tool to do some of these things we’re talking about because the aftermarket tools won’t do it
SPEAKER 06 :
I believe this has a thing where you can download and pay for the software that helps you get to that because I have the one for the Honda on here, and it had a bunch of stuff, and that got recommended by everybody. That was the original one I got it for.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would look into that and see if you could actually, because where I’m going with this is we need to see what’s controlling that, is it responding correctly, and all of that to know what to do next before you just start throwing parts at it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because if it’s not being controlled correctly, we’ve got other issues going on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. It’s a Foxwell.
SPEAKER 15 :
Foxwell.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Yeah, then NT710. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I think that’s… I mean, ultimately, not I think. What we have to do is figure out how is that being controlled and what do we need to do to fix that if it’s not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I agree. Because…
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Because otherwise you’re just going to be chasing your tail on this. I hate to say it that way, but you will. Yeah. And that’s a bidirectional scanner, not a bad homeowner type scanner. And I think, so if you look at this one, I’m not in here enough to see exactly what upgrade you’d have to do, but… Because doing this and talking at the same time is tough. I’ll have to do a little more research and see exactly what. If this will even get to what you need to do is where I’m going with this. What is the code that you’re getting, just out of curiosity?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it’s a 299. It’s the lowest turbo boost.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. P0299. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what?
SPEAKER 15 :
We do a little research. Brent, we’re going to take a break here over the top of the hour. Let Steve and I do a little research on this. We can talk about this a little bit when we come back. But let’s see what that scan – do a little research and find out what the scan tool will do next before we do anything else.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And I’m assuming – I think you guys have my phone number to call me back, correct?
SPEAKER 15 :
If not, we’ve emailed enough. I can figure it out that way one way or the other.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. All right. You bet, Brent.
SPEAKER 15 :
Appreciate you very much. We’ll do that. We’ll come back here at the top of the hour. Two more hours left. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno’s. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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