On this episode of Drive Radio, join us as we navigate through a caller’s Jeep Patriot fueling conundrum with our in-house experts who offer practical advice on what might be causing the issue and solutions you can use. We also bring you tips for the best car wash techniques this spring, including why you might want to invest in microfiber cloths and if a foam cannon is right for you. Whether you’re interested in mechanical discussions or car detailing advice, this episode is packed with valuable information to fuel your weekend projects.
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All right. Good morning, everybody. Welcome. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Had a great hour on Fix It Radio, which some of you listened to, and then just continue on with us here. Those of you listening to the replay, though, you may hear something different prior to Drive Radio, because we do replay this particular program throughout the weekend as well, which we appreciate each one of you listening. Text line 307. 200-8222, 307-200-8222. Don’t forget our main call in line, 303-477-5600. Roy and Dietze both from ProTech AutoShield with us today. Mark Guernsey from Accountable up in Broomfield with us as well. How is everybody? Good morning. How was the weather outside?
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Super nice.
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It was cooler when I got here this morning.
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Yeah, it’s hard to be indoors right now. It’s nice.
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Oh, well. Here we are. Well, thank you guys for sacrificing your time and being here with us. I do appreciate it. I know our listeners do as well. All right. We have got a question of the day. This came from one of you as a listener, too, by the way. And some of you continue to give me… Thank you very much. You have ever had to get rid of a car, meaning did it get wrecked? Did it get scratched? Did you just not like it? Did somebody else previously to you own it? Did it belong to an ex-girlfriend and now you don’t like it anymore? I mean, petty reasons. So give me your pettiest reason. Forever getting rid of a car. I have a few that I will probably mention today as we go through the program. So be thinking about that. That’s our question of the day. I got a couple of things that I’m going to add to our towing topic that Ken Rackley and I did last week as well. A couple of things that actually were mentioned to me during the week and some things that we just sort of ran out of time last week talking about. But I’ll talk about some of that today as well as we have time. In the meantime, though, our phone number 303. 403-477-5600, 303-477-5600. The other thing, too, that we’ll talk about today with Roy and Dietze both being here is for some of you that are dragging some of your hot rods and exotics and whatever you’ve got out of the garage and getting things fired up for the first time this year, Mark and I also can talk about the mechanical sides of things. Ryan Dietz can talk about sort of the detail end of things, if you would, on how that’s all, you know, what you should be doing or not doing and things along those lines. But let’s take some calls. 303-477-5600. Ed, you’re first today. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jeep Patriot, four-cylinder, and it won’t take gas very fast. You have to put it in real slow so it cuts off. And this mechanic says it’s probably the purge valve. Where is that located at on the engine? I mean, where is that?
SPEAKER 16 :
2014? Did I hear that one right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, 2014 Jeep Patriot, four-cylinder.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s going to be on the top of the gas tank close to where you fill the gas at that tube because that’s got to open up to let air come in. As fuel goes in, air has got to come out. So you’re going to find it on top of the tank. You may or may not have to remove the tank to access it. Some of them are in a tough spot.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t remember on that one either. That’s old enough now, Ed. I’m sorry. I don’t remember on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so, well, how would I find out? Have a mechanic tell me or whatever?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, you’d put it up on a lift and look at it, do a little research online with the part, but there’s a chance it’s accessible, but I would start by, you know, looking up the part, see what it looks like, look under your Jeep and find it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so it would be on top if it’s anywhere.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s going to be close to the gas tank no matter what.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so you don’t know what it looks like.
SPEAKER 18 :
On that one, I don’t remember. We haven’t had a lot of problems with them, so we don’t deal with them regularly. But you can Google it and see what it looks like and then just match that up pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I’ll try that then. That’s how I put it. charcoal canister in it you know it goes on the tailpipe that didn’t work so the purge balance probably is and when you say it’s slow to or you know i guess walk me through ed what’s happening when you fill it up well you have to put it in it takes a minute to put in maybe one gallon two minutes put in one gallon it keeps kicking it back after you’re real slow like you’re just steeping in okay
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, it’s possible that it’s got a purge valve issue. In other words, not venting the tank properly because as you’re putting fuel in, of course, it has to vent out. Otherwise, it’ll tend to back the fuel up in the neck. And for those of you listening, every car, Mark knows this, every car is a little different as far as how this is made. And it has to do with the neck configuration, the tank configuration. Is it a big, flat, wide tank? Is it skinny and deep? You know, is it square? All of that has an effect on these things. And that’s where these particular parts, in your case, they’re all designed. That’s where you can’t go out and find, for example, a purge valve from some other car, put on yours and have it work. They are design-specific, vehicle-to-vehicle, even model-to-model, and, Mark, even engine-to-engine, if I’m not correct, depending upon the car and the engine, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
California versus the missions are all very different.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go, Ed.
SPEAKER 18 :
But even the shape of that fuel neck can be your issue, and they had some problems for a few years, and they have an updated fuel neck just so it’ll flow right from the nozzle or just put that nozzle in a different position when you try to fill it, see if that changes anything. Has this been ongoing yet, or did it just start?
SPEAKER 06 :
It started about two or three tankfuls. It started right after I bought it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so it’s sort of been ongoing for you personally. The other thing that I would really be, I would almost, Ed, if it were me, I think I would have a technician pull the tank down, knowing that this has been kind of a problem that you’ve had since day one. I would be pulling that down and checking, is there anything else weird going on? What I mean by that is, given it’s a used car and you really don’t know its history, is it the proper tank? Is everything correct underneath? Is everything hooked up correctly? On and on we go. The problem with a used car is you don’t know what you bought.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. It has 170,000 miles on it now.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Even the rubber or plastic hose that returns air to the top could have got stuck together, got warped, got pushed in, bent. That whole system has to work.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. There’s a number of things, Ed, here that could be. I personally would be pulling the tank down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, well, I got a guy who’s pretty good. I’ll go back to him and talk to him about it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, all right. Ed, appreciate the phone call. Let us know how that goes. Anything else?
SPEAKER 06 :
I appreciate it. That’ll be all.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, man, appreciate you very much. Thank you. Okay, before we go to break, again, question of the day, what’s the pettiest reason you ever had to get rid of a car? You know, it could just be I didn’t like it anymore. I mean, I don’t know what, you know. Everybody’s got different reasons for why they get rid of certain cars and so on through the years. And you may have, who knows? Again, this came from a listener, 303-477-5600. This is a question more for Roy and Dietze. So it’s that time of the year. People are getting their vehicles out of the shop. In my case, I’m going to roll a few out today and probably wash the shop and do some things just because it’s spring. It’s that time of the year. I need to get some things done, get some things cleaned up. It’s been winter, and you just don’t do those things typically in the winter months. So you’re getting ready to pull some of these things out. Some people put covers on their cars, which Roy is not a fan of. Others do not. But let’s say, you know, one way or the other, you know, you get that car out. You’re ready to pull it out, but it’s dingy, it’s dirty, it’s dusty. Yeah, it’s maybe been inside, but there’s still things that accumulate, you know, spider webs and different things throughout the winter months. What’s the best way to handle getting rid of that as you’re – You know what, John?
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I was looking at the commercial the other day, and I was thinking about you because I’m not a fan of the car covers. And these covers look pretty nice. I mean, pretty good. So I don’t remember the brand. Maybe I can try it in the future.
SPEAKER 16 :
And the only reason I’m a car cover fan is – and I know the reasons not to use them – But if you do any work in your shop and you happen to even take a spray bomb can of black spray paint and you paint a bracket or something, I don’t want that overspray on the car itself. I’d rather have it on the cover because getting overspray off is a pain in the rear. So I understand that the covers can have some fine dirt and they can scratch and do some things on their own. But the overspray is a problem on its own as well, and I just don’t want the overspray.
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Yeah, no, I mean, don’t get me wrong. I mean, I… sometimes it’s a good thing you know i mean to do because if you have your your car outside of the your house you know i mean people doing yard work right whatever you know painting the house right right next door very true uh so you get the overspray and all that stuff so it’s a good thing uh it’s just in my side because i’m a detailer right okay so along those lines it’s it’s that time of the year people are rolling their things out what are the do’s and don’ts of the first wash of the year i guess is what i’m asking
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Well… And even how you handle the car, knowing there’s going to be some dirt and things on the outside of it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, right now, I mean, yeah, you’re going to have a lot of stuff, I mean, on the car right now. But now is the time to… I mean, you have a nice car, you’re going to… A car show or something. Right. I mean, is it time to do some paint correction, ceramic coating? Okay. You know what I mean? Think about some PPF too. Okay. So now is the time.
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Okay. And when we pull it out on the first run, do we, I mean, I know some guys use the air to even dry the car. Are you better off blowing a lot of the dust and stuff off initially before you wash it? Or you’re better off just getting the hose out and getting it all washed off and not worry about it? That’s the way to go.
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What’s the best way to do it? That’s the way to go. Just… Use the water? Use the water. Don’t do anything to the car before rinsing.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s a lot like Alan with the glass. We have Alan Stack on. He’s one of our sponsors. He talks about washing your glasses. Most people will take glasses that are dusty, dirty. They take a Kleenex or a uh terry cloth towel or whatever and they just go on the lens and start wiping off without washing them first and his his thing is just use a little bit of dish soap wash the glasses off first even using your fingers with the dish soap get everything off that way and then just dry your glasses off when you’re done and you won’t scratch them that way you’re scratching them worse when you’re actually leaving all of that dust and stuff off and then even blowing it off you could risk scratching your glasses so it’s a lot the same on the car and the paint right yeah just get your car out to your driveway
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Get your power wash, your hose, your garden hose, whatever. Do that before doing anything else.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Nowadays, we’re, I think, I mean, we’re trying to offer more like at least the full front of your vehicle with PPF. Or the whole car. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
We just did a BMW center console.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, good idea. I hadn’t thought about that. She was the owner. She’s a little… She’s really picky with her car. Like me.
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More.
SPEAKER 03 :
Way more.
SPEAKER 16 :
She’s something else. She’s on another level. A higher level than I am. Okay, that’s really bad. Because I’m bad. Okay, the foam cannons. Worth it or not? Because you see these advertised all over the place now. A lot of even pressure washers. If a person buys a homeowner-type pressure washer, some of them will even come with a foam cannon and such. Are they worth it?
SPEAKER 17 :
I really like it. I mean, in my opinion. And if you have a pressure washer at home, that’s really nice. I mean, you’re going to spray all the soap. on the whole car, on the whole outside of the car. And, uh, that way you don’t have to have a, I mean, you’re just your bucket, soapy bucket. And, um, it’s easier. It’s easier. Okay. One thing I recommend, I mean, one thing I really recommend is, um, that I like to do is using microfiber racks to wash your vehicle instead of a wash mitt. I know there’s really good wash mitt. Okay. And why is that? Because the wash mitt, it tends to collect dirt. It can. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you don’t wash it properly after you finish washing your vehicle.
SPEAKER 16 :
But you should be washing it after every time you wash a car.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, and that’s why I recommend people when they come to my shop, I mean, just get a bag of microfiber racks from…
SPEAKER 16 :
Wherever. Costco, whatever.
SPEAKER 17 :
Napa, whatever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know what I mean? And get something cheap. And then every time you wash your car, you use one of those microfiber couple of those. You know what I mean? Two or three of those. Okay. And then you throw it away or wash it and use it for something else.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. I had never really thought about doing it that way. It’s not a bad idea. That beats a wash mitt. Yeah. Not a bad idea at all. Yeah, yeah. So that’s what I… And… Along the lines of washing a car, what’s another no-no that people do?
SPEAKER 03 :
Car washes with brushes. That’s the bigger one.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I should stop doing that. It’s really convenient. Depends on the car.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can use a touchless wash.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And I’m being honest. It depends on the car. If some of you have a car where it’s more of your just daily driver, the paint’s decent, but it’s not your show car or anything along those lines and you want to run through the brush wash even at that point, knock all the junk off and get all the stuff from winter off and so on. I’m still a fan of doing that and keeping all the crud and everything off of it, keeping it from rusting and so on. And if you’re not worried about the paint, you know what? At the end of the day, who cares? But if you are worried about the paint and how it looks and the shine and all of that, yeah, I wouldn’t use a brush wash.
SPEAKER 17 :
And then I recommend doing your ceramic coating, paint correction, ceramic coating. It’ll be 10 times easier to wash your car.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we had a text message that just came in, which I’m glad that they asked this because we are in hail season. This person asked that since we could see more severe storms out on the plains even tomorrow, can we address how PPF won’t prevent hail damage? There’s still some social media ads out there saying PPF will help reduce hail impact. No, folks, it won’t.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it won’t.
SPEAKER 16 :
It won’t. Sorry, it won’t.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’ll help a little bit, you know what I mean? Because of the… Teeny bit, maybe. Yeah, because of the… Cushioning.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s more of a cushioning. Yeah, exactly. But… You get a… This is the explanation. And this person texting, I think, knows this. You get a sizable enough hail, you know, stone, I guess you could say. enough to where it starts getting up to the marble, even larger golf ball size, and it’s enough to ding the car. You can even, I’ve done this, you can sometimes go out and throw a blanket or a quilt on the car to try to cushion some of that, and depending upon the size of the stone, even that sometimes isn’t enough to keep the dents from happening. And how do I know that? Been there, done that. Okay? So point being, even putting blankets and stuff on. Meaning, think of the cushioning that a quilt off of your, you know, an old quilt off the bed. Think of how a bedspread is not keeping enough, you know, keeping enough layer of cushion in between the steel of the car and the hailstone itself to keep it from getting dented. How is a, how thick is PPF? It’s eight mils. Okay. Okay. Tell me how 8 mils of PPF is going to protect the paint when that quilt isn’t.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s not going to handle rocks or ice cubes falling from the sky at high speed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nothing’s going to stop that.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, no.
SPEAKER 17 :
PPF is not bulletproof. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
And this was really quick for all of you listening, too. This was really important when Roy and I got together a couple of years ago. It’s been even longer than that now. One of the first questions he asked me is, hey, I’ve got people out there in my world that are talking about ceramic coating and PPF being hail-resistant type, hail-proof type products. And he’s like, we’re never going to come on air and talk about that. What are your feelings on that? And I’m like, thank you. Yeah, no, they’re not. There’s not a single thing either two of those products are going to do to protect against hail, period. And anybody out there claiming… That it will is lying to you. It’s deceptive advertising, deceptive marketing, and I would never want to do business with somebody that’s lying to me on the front side. So if you’ve got anybody out there telling you that this product is going to help against hail damage, go somewhere else.
SPEAKER 17 :
No. Because they’re lying to you. No, yeah, absolutely. So we do a lot of work for body shops, auto body shops. Yes, you do. We have to replace a lot of PPF, you know what I mean, on the vehicles because of hail. So, but you can see the difference. I mean, I get the point of the text, you know what I mean? It’ll help a little bit, yes, because you can see the difference where the… There was no PPF and there is? Yeah, so… The dents may not be as big? Exactly, so the dents on the PPF, they’re smaller.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you still have a dent, but they’re slightly smaller.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and sometimes the PDR guy, in this case, he cannot… Fix it because of the PPF. So you’ve got to take the PPF off. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because he can’t get into doing the dent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Sometimes they can. Okay. Sometimes they can. But you can see the difference, I mean, where the dent is. I mean, if it’s on the PPF, it’s a little smaller than the section where it’s… No PPF.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
So you can tell the difference. You can see it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
But that doesn’t mean that it’s going to prevent.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. No. Yeah. Again, and I appreciate the text message because it’s spot on. And, again, if somebody’s – it’s false advertising. If they’re advertising in that or they’re on social media talking about it and even some of the forums, if there’s somebody on there talking about that, frankly, they don’t know what they’re talking about. They’re wrong. It’s not going to do that. I gave you an example a moment ago of just personal experience on trying to prevent things from getting hail damage by putting blankets and sheets and things like that on cars, and even then still having some hail damage when it’s all said and done. The other thing about hail damage, as you all know, is depending upon the color of the car, The dents are still there. It’s just the color of the car can hide dents better than others. For example, white, most forgiving color when it comes to dents that there is. And it has to do with the light reflection on the paint and so on. But the reality is the dent is still there. You just can’t see it as well as if it were black, for example. If it’s black and it’s dented, your eye will pick that up in an instant. If it’s white, you might have to look at it a little bit closer to actually see said dent. Point being, they’re denting the same. It’s just that one color is doing a better job of hiding the dent than the other one is. That’s why for me personally, and Roy laughs at me about this, every daily driver I have is white. And it has been for years. Why? Because if you’re going to drive it daily and you still want a decent-looking car, when it’s all said and done, white is the most forgiving color on the things that I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 17 :
And same thing for dirt, scratches. Easier to clean.
SPEAKER 16 :
Everybody thinks, oh, a white car gets dirtier faster. They get dirty the same. That’s the other thing. They’re all dirty the same way. You can drive through, take the same exact car. Two different colors, drive the same road. They’re both the same dirty when you get to the end. That part doesn’t change. It’s which color is allowing the dirt to show or not that’s the issue. For example, white is the most forgiving. Silvers aren’t too bad. As you start getting darker in color, And by the way, that slate gray color you now kind of see on a lot of different cars, trucks, et cetera, that is almost as bad as black. That color, for some reason, shows every ounce of dirt out there. It’s almost like it literally is like driving a black car, and I’m not exaggerating. Am I right with that gray color?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. That slate gray. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s like the color. Roy’s got his emblem on his shirt there, and it’s almost that color of Roy’s emblem. And that slate gray color, believe it or not, is about as bad as driving a black car. People think, oh, that’ll be an easy car to take care of color-wise. Actually, it’s as bad.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s a beautiful color when it’s clean. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
But when it’s dirty, it’s dirty. Same thing. I mean, black is one of my favorite colors. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it’s beautiful. Nothing better than a shiny black car. You wash it, and you’ve got to wash it in five minutes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I own some, so I can attest to the black, and I’ve owned some in the past. So, yes, black, while it looks beautiful, gorgeous, when they’re all done up and they look great. And now, those of you driving black cars that you really want to have nice and stay nice, yeah, that’s where the PPF and the ceramic coating really do help on a black car especially.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’ll help on a white car, too, but definitely helps on the darker colors. It helps a lot. So we can talk more about that when we come back, guys. Questions for us, 303-477-5600. I’ve got a couple of text messages I’ll answer here in a moment. We’ll be right back, though. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, somebody also asked me if I ever had hail damage on a vehicle. Yeah, unfortunately, far too many. With a fleet especially, yeah, far too many. Personally, me, myself, not much. I’ve been pretty fortunate along those lines. Now, family member-wise, vehicles I’ve owned, yes, I had one truck one time that my son was driving that literally it was over in the Arvada area, not far from where I live right now. that literally looked like somebody took double ball-peen hammers and just went over the entire vehicle, sides, top, pillars. I mean, this was big hail.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was in 2008, 2009?
SPEAKER 16 :
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 17 :
The hills?
SPEAKER 16 :
Uh-huh. The big one. The big one. And it literally looked like somebody took a ball-peen hammer to the entire truck, sides, top, bottom, everywhere. My truck. Like it demolished it. Yeah, I kept that truck, and we used it in the fleet and kept on using it, and it pushed a lot of snow and did a lot of things over the years. But, yeah, it looked like somebody took a ball-peen hammer to it after that, and I just left it, and, you know, there you go. It is what it is. So Ken in Boulder, go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hello.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hello, Ken.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I just wanted to see if you had information. Do they still import Peugeot vehicles from France?
SPEAKER 16 :
Not that I know of, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
God, that was the worst vehicle I ever had.
SPEAKER 16 :
It wasn’t good. Yeah, I can attest to that, Ken. I didn’t work on too many of those back in the day, but did on one or two over the years, and they were not my favorite.
SPEAKER 05 :
I bought it brand new with the service manual. I paid, I don’t know how many dollars for the service manual. Anyhow, I thought, I’m just going to work on this myself. Well, everything was backwards for the French. They have Here we number our cylinders from front to rear. They number theirs from rear to front. I mean, just stuff like that. The wheels didn’t have any. You couldn’t get it balanced. You had to balance them on the vehicle. I mean, it was just a terrible vehicle. And so they don’t import them anymore then.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t believe so. I’ve not seen anything of late. I think there was some discussion about them potentially bringing them in, and I have to look on the internet to be sure that I’m correct on this, but I do not believe there’s any Peugeots imported at this point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s good, because they were… I was so glad to get rid of that car. I mean, it had decent mileage and everything, but it was just the strangest thing to work on. I tried to work on vehicles myself, and The manual part of it was in French, and I was just like, whoa.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I’m correct. There hasn’t been a Peugeot sold in North America since 1991.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, wow. So it’s been a while. This was a 75. Like I said, it was brand new with a service manual and everything. As a matter of fact, I’d take it to a dealer here in Boulder, and they’d say, We don’t want to see that car again. I said, okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Can’t blame them. And how do I say this? I’ve never seen a French car yet that was built very well.
SPEAKER 18 :
It seems like Jeep was putting some Peugeot transmissions in for a while.
SPEAKER 16 :
They were, and they weren’t great either. They were garbage.
SPEAKER 18 :
They weren’t good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do the Renaults have that similar reputation?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, they’re not good. Well, Renault is part of a bigger company now. They do a lot of racing and things like that. As far as their daily driver cars, I feel the same way Mark does. I am not a fan, even though… They have a different reputation, again, because of their racing heritage and things like that. They’re big in a lot of the European racing ends of things, and so we’re big in F1 for the longest time. I don’t know. I don’t follow F1 like probably some of you do. I don’t know if they’re as big in it as they used to be, but different type of company. But I’m with Mark on their daily drivers. I’m still not a huge fan of Renault cars.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think the cars that they brought into the U.S. were focusing on the cheapest line, the bottom, low budget, and they cut corners to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
They were small, relatively small.
SPEAKER 16 :
Actually, they are, believe it or not, they are still in F1. They’re called the Alpine F1 team. So Renault is still in F1 racing today, and they were big in it for the longest time, and they still are. So there you go. But that doesn’t mean I don’t own one of their cars, Ken.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, keep up the show. I learn a lot. I tell you, I think people can learn a lot from just listening to your show.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I appreciate that, Ken. Thank you for that. I mean that sincerely. Thank you very much. Speaking of all of that, by the way, and all of what we were talking about, we’re going to get into fuel in a moment. Those of you that are looking to go out and do something for Memorial Day weekend that have not gotten your vehicle in and gotten serviced and so on, especially if you’re up in Mark’s area, The Broomfield area. Get that in. Get it done. Let’s get it scheduled. Get yourself handled. The last thing you want to do is head out and do anything over the Memorial Day weekend without having the vehicle checked. That’s how you end up being one of those casualties on the side of the road going up the hill, I-70, whatever, which there will be plenty of those this coming weekend. A week from today, there’ll be a bunch of those. Trust me. They’ll be out in full force, and there’ll be a lot of them on the side of the road. And a lot of that, frankly, is because things weren’t done on the front side. You could have avoided that pullover, whether it be a bad tire, whether it’s overheating, whether it’s anything of the sort. You can avoid all of that on the front side. Go see Mark, especially in the north end of town, to do that. If you’re anywhere else in town, go find one of our other local facilities and get your stuff taken care of. The last thing you want to do this coming weekend is be a casualty on the side of the road because of something you could have avoided on the front side. And I mean that sincerely, the last thing. And it’s always, Mark and Roy, you know this, it’s always that little thing that you thought, oh, that’ll be okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
It always is, and when you see those cars at the side of the road, you don’t really see a pattern. They’re not all the same blind brand. No, they are not, Mark. It’s the people that haven’t stayed on top of them and taken care of them.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right. Okay, one last thing. Oh, before we continue on, I’ve got somebody that asked about Adatech on Fuel Additive. We’ll get to that in a moment. Before that, though, somebody texted on the foam cannons, is there a favorite, Roy and Dietze?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I always recommend to use a good brand. 3D, Sonax. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just go for the… So in other words, don’t buy the cheapest generic thing you can find.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, exactly. Don’t buy the cheapest. Because then you’re going to be replacing them…
SPEAKER 16 :
This is how ignorant I am when it comes to foam cannons. Do they all use a pressure washer to work, or can you use some of them with a garden hose, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 17 :
There’s both. The most common is the one for a pressure washer. You can find the other one for your garden hose. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so you can… I didn’t know that. So you can actually find them to use either or.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can find both. It’s just they don’t spray the same.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. No, they’re not the same pressure.
SPEAKER 17 :
But they’re really good. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I learned something new there. I didn’t know that. Yeah. I have a… Some of you are thinking, well, John, geez, you’re a car guy. Why don’t you have one of these foam cannons? Because I’m… I’m lucky. I have my own little shop at home and I’ve got my own hot seat and I’ve got the ability to use it and so on. And I’ve never really looked at the foam cannon thing because, frankly, I don’t have to because I’m spoiled. Yes, I will say that I’m spoiled on that end of things. And I have my nice my nice little own home shop where I’m unique. I don’t have to do things the way that I used to have to do years ago before having that. And I have an advantage in that in that I’ve actually got a hot seat and so on, and it works really well, and I can use hot water, cold water. It depends on the time of the year and what I’m doing and what I’m washing and when I’m washing off and all of that. So I’m very fortunate as far as that goes. I’m saying that. It’s very blessed. to have that because not everybody has a Hot Seat. And literally mine is the Hot Seat brand. Not everybody has a Hot Seat at home. So I’m very fortunate that way. And Roy knows my setup.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, Roy knows my setup.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I’m really fortunate. Mine’s built in that runs off natural gas. I don’t even have to fill it up with diesel or do any of that. So I’m very fortunate as far as how all that works and goes. And I will say this, just a side note. If any of you have a home shop and you’re looking for that one piece that kind of makes the shop different than anybody else’s, Put a built-in natural gas run hot seat. You will find yourself using that for more things than probably anything else in your shop, even more than your compressor, and I’m not exaggerating. I run my hot seat probably more than any other piece of equipment that I own because you can use it to wash the mower deck off. You can wash this part, that part, the car. I mean, you name it. The driveway. I mean, anything you want that you know you need to get washed, you now – I usually take my barbecue apart at the beginning of the year. You can wash all the grates off. I mean, all of those sorts of things you can do with that device that you just can’t do with other regular pressure washers, even if you run hot water through them. It’s just not the same because that hot seat, as you guys all know, you can adjust the temperature, and I run mine at about 150 degrees. So you can literally – you know, melt paint off if you wanted to, depending upon what you’re actually washing. That’s where you got to be a little careful using the hot side. But it does it work? Yes. So, yeah, those of you that have your own shops and have the ability to do what I’m talking about that really have maybe never thought through that. And it’s not as expensive as you think. And given what some of you do around the house and on the weekends and so on, again, it becomes one of those tools that you literally use. In my case, I use it every single week. There’s hardly a week that goes by that I haven’t used the hot seat for something. So anyway, side note, we’ll come right back. Question of the day again. What is the pettiest reason ever that you’ve gotten rid of a car? I got a text message in that said, well, I got a new girlfriend once, and I didn’t want to have the same truck, so I got rid of a truck because I didn’t want the same truck she had. Yeah. Things like that. What’s the pettiest reason ever you got rid of a car? We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Again, Roy Anditsa from ProTech Auto Shield with me over in Wheat Ridge. Mark Guernsey from Accountable up in Broomfield with me as well. Patrick in Brighton, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, John. Hey, got a 17 GMC Sierra. It’s got the 6.2 in it. I’ve got a couple of questions, but the one I’m calling about, I took it to the East Coast and back, and then… On occasions, the alternator, it looks like it was discharging for a while. Never had a problem. It started back up. I’m kind of wondering, does that have some sort of something inside that discharges it because it’s overcharging or something? Would you have any idea on that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, every vehicle, modern vehicle, has a regulator on the alternator to adjust what it needs to be doing. I’ve never seen one, you know, quote-unquote discharged, but I guess it would depend upon, Patrick, how charged up it was. And keep in mind that even in 2017, while it’s fairly accurate, it’s not going to be perfect as far as what the actual— you know, voltage is going to the actual battery at any given time. In other words, you could put a meter on it and have a variance between what the dash says versus what’s actually happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER 16 :
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it. Let me just say that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Cool. Another question. You know those cylinder deactivation, it’s got those things you push into the OBD2 port?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re like $250. Are they worth it? No. Or is it just as good just to not worth it? No, they’re not.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s funny. I was talking to a friend of mine at one of the GM dealers here this last week, and this is a perfect story to prove my point. So this is a person that I know. that had a similar to what you’re driving and has a new one now, but similar to what you’re driving, drove that vehicle for years close to 100, and I think he had 126,000 miles on it when he sold it, and it was just like yours, had the cylinder deactivation, all that, not an ounce of problem. Changed oil every 3,000 to 4,000 miles with no problem whatsoever. Sold it to the guy. It was literally, as I was talking to him, coming in on a wrecker with a tick in the engine, probably from one of the lifters, and they were looking at it trying to determine when the last oil change was done and liable to not have been done since he’s owned it. So proving my point that the cylinder deactivation on GMs especially get a lot of bad rap, and it’s because of lack of maintenance.
SPEAKER 07 :
gotcha yeah i change it between uh four and five thousand and uh on the transmission on the uh it’s got a uh what the hell you call it um the uh thermostat a thermal bypass coupler correct uh yeah and then it runs in the 190s what do you think about those kits that you buy that uh that you can put in there and it brings the it brings it down to like 160 or so do you tow with it
SPEAKER 16 :
No. Then it’s not necessary. I wouldn’t worry about it. The only time I would worry about too much transmission temperature and doing something along those lines and trying to lower it would be if you’re towing and you’ve got a heavier load or something along those lines, which on a half ton, you shouldn’t be hauling all that much with it anyway. So personally speaking, another gimmick that you don’t need to invest any money in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, they’re cheap. They’re like $10 or something. I’ve seen them online. I’ve even watched videos where you… pull it out, they call it the pill, and then you turn it upside down and just eliminate it where it flows.
SPEAKER 16 :
Again, the modern transmissions are meant to have more temperature in them to actually operate properly, so I don’t see any advantage to doing that. But that’s another item that, in your case, every 50,000 miles or so, 50 to 60, that transmission needs flushed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but I did it at 52. There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, you do the maintenance on it, Patrick. You have nothing to worry about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Since I got you here, what about when you think I ought to pull the spark plugs and change the coolant in it?
SPEAKER 16 :
The coolant’s probably due now. I would go ahead and get that done. If you’re at 60K or so, I would go ahead and do coolant. Plugs, you’re getting close. I would at least have somebody pull one and look at it and see how they look and, you know, A technician would go to the easiest one, of course, and pull it and see what it looks like. But you’re typically, and Mark can attest this probably more than me, but on that 6-2, 70,000 or so is probably where I’d be looking at doing them. They’ll tell you 100, but I wouldn’t go that long.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no, I wouldn’t do that. I think the manual says 100 for the cool one, too. And I wouldn’t go that long either. No, no, I don’t do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, you’re kind of coming up to the point at 60-some thousand where I would just be budgeting in here, you know, in the next, I don’t know, few thousand miles or so this summer, I would go ahead and do coolant and plugs if it were me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, almost all the fluids that are left, differentials, power steering, all of it.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you haven’t done them, do them. Brake included.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, brake fluid. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
on them differentials they don’t have a drain plug they do not no yeah on the back you’ll have to pull the technician pulls the cover looks inside washes everything out uh gets it sealed back up puts new fluid in it and that’s all synthetic now that’s in those even though um the differential itself isn’t much different than what they used to be we have found that synthetic fluid works better in them and the front is a suck and fill there’s no drain plug or anything on the front differential on that particular truck so We use a device that literally sucks everything down to where there’s not much left at all, by the way, Patrick, when you’re all done, and they just fill it back up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Can you suck out the back, too, or is it better?
SPEAKER 16 :
On the back, personally, just because I’m a guy that back in the day did a lot of repairs on differentials, setups of differential gears and so on. I personally, as a technician, always wanted to see what things looked like. If it’s got positive traction, for example, which it may, I want to look at what they look like. What’s the fluid itself look like? How much stuff is on the magnet on the bottom? How much debris do we have? I want to look inside the differential at that service. So personally, I always wanted to pull the cover and look inside. You can fill and replace, which is what happens at a lot of fast lubes, by the way. That’s not my way of doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I got you. Yeah, no, it’s got G80. It’s a positive.
SPEAKER 16 :
So it’s got the positive traction, which that’s not really even positive traction. The G80 is what they call a – oh, shoot.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s still a limited slip of some sort.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, the name is just – it’s a governor lock differential is what that is. That’s actually got a weighted device that as one wheel spins, it throws a weight out. It catches a side gear that actually then applies the clutch packs. It actually has – more gripping power than a typical pause attraction does but they’re very sensitive on anybody has a governor lock you got to be really careful not to get that weight spinning so fast by having one wheel spin that things just catch because when that happens they blow up i can’t tell you how many uh back in the day tow truck drivers would blow up the rear end of those things with that g80 because of what i just said yeah and uh hell i’m 64 so i’m
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I’ll get on it. I mean, it runs great. The highway, I’ve got 22, 23 miles a gallon. It’s a beautiful truck.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, again, that differential is great, but that’s another one where because of the G80, I want to look at the weights. Is everything working properly? We don’t want anything all gummed up. We want to make sure things are working properly, and that’s something that can’t be done without looking inside, Patrick.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. No, I got you there, John. Well, great. Well, I’m going to change my oil and head to Oklahoma next weekend. All right. Well, have fun. Be safe. Thank you for all your help, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, Patrick. No, I appreciate it very much. And, yes, you’re getting up to the point up in Brighton. Mark’s going to be one of your closer repair centers, actually, in Brighton. Just run up to Broomfield when you need those things done and get that taken care of. Mark will be happy to take care of you. And, yeah, again, when it comes to differentials and you have the ability to pull the cover and look inside – I just, from my past history, I want to. I want to see inside. I wish you could do that on the front axle. Right. You can’t because the way it’s designed, that’s not a capability on that particular front end on that particular truck.
SPEAKER 18 :
But that rear differential does all the work. And when a part fails, it’s always the rear.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s exactly right, Mark.
SPEAKER 18 :
That’s where the load’s coming from.
SPEAKER 16 :
And at 60, you’re most likely having no problems whatsoever, but all the more reason why you take that cover off. And some would say, well, then you have a risk of it leaking again. No, not if it’s put back together. Your risk of that leaking in today’s world, we’re using the same type. Actually, in 2017 to today, we’re actually using a better RTV sealant than what was even used in 2017. So, yeah, the risk of that leaking is pretty slim, if not none. I mean, I don’t want to say there’s no chance, Mark, but if it’s done correctly. Yeah, you’re not going to have any leaks coming out of it. And again, that needs to be filled back up with full synthetic fluid. You’ve already done the transmission service, so that’s good. Transfer case, I didn’t mention, by the way, so if you’re still listening, Patrick, transfer case would also on that. That’s probably got the viscous coupling. That’s got the all-wheel drive. How am I trying to say this? On that particular model, for those of you listening, there’s several modes, two-wheel drive, automatic all-wheel drive, and there’s a name for that transfer case. I’ll think of it at the top of my head in a second. There’s locked-in four-wheel drive, and then there’s low range as well. And on that one, yes, it’s very important for that one also to have its services done. It really needs done at the same time the transmission is being done. So if that hasn’t been done, Patrick, that needs done as well. With a very specific fluid. That’s right. Autotrack was the name of that particular transfer case. So that needs done as well. That’s right. So we’ll be back here in a moment, guys. Don’t go anywhere. We’re hang tight over the top of the hour. Burke Payne’s going to join us when we come back. We’ve got an update on a seminar he went to on the appraisal end of things. So we’ll talk to Burke here in just one moment. But hang tight, guys. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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