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In a riveting discussion, John Rush and Dr. Kelly Victory explore the misjudgments and broad perceptions that influence voters as they navigate the turbulent waters of political allegiance. With insights into the polls’ sometimes misleading narratives, they emphasize the strategic aspects that differentiate candidates like Donald Trump, who is seen as a master of political maneuvering. The conversation also touches on the strategic dismantling of conventional stereotypes while proposing bold forecasts of Trump’s potential role in health policy with figures like Robert Kennedy Jr.
John Rush (Host) :
All right. Happy Thursday. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week, Dr. Kelly Victory joining us now. Steve House normally with us, but he’s off. I don’t know, Kelly. He just sort of left you and me today.
Caller (Guest) :
Exactly. I think he doesn’t want to be on air this close to the election. Maybe he’s hunkering down in a bunker somewhere.
John Rush (Host) :
It could be. No need for that, by the way, all of you listening. I don’t have a predictor, Dr. Kelly. I don’t have a crystal ball, but all indicators right now, and again, I know it depends on which poll you’re looking at and so on, and I get that there can be some under-polling and things that are not exactly accurate, but it looks like Trump has a slight edge at this point in time.
Caller (Guest) :
I think, to be very honest, I think that he’s got a huge edge because I think the polls are off in terms of who people are really backing. I was funny. I was talking to several people who said that they’ve gotten calls, soliciting or texts or whatever, asking who you’re going to vote for. And I think that people who on the Democrat side, people who are supporting Harris or Walz tend to answer that honestly and say, you know, Harris, Walz, that’s who I’m going with. where people on our side simply choose not to answer. They say, it’s none of your business. I’m not answering this poll. So I think, number one, the polls are off. Secondly, I think that, I’ve said before, I think if everyone went out and actually raised their hand for who they wanted, Donald Trump would win on a landslide. The problem for me is the evidence, once again, of fraud, whether it’s voter fraud or manipulation of ballots, manipulation of the voter rolls, and that remains a huge concern for me.
John Rush (Host) :
I can’t disagree with what you just said, and I also feel like, and something I wanted to talk about is, I also feel like the, and I’ve talked about it all week, so those of you listening, you’ve probably heard me say this, but maybe you’re tuning in for just the first time this week right now. I feel like, Dr. Kelly, and as a woman, I wanted to get your feeling on this, but I feel like not only has the left forgotten about the male vote. They actually hate men. They hate masculinity. They hate the male vote. And I feel like even worse than what it was in 2016, not only do they not want that vote or forget about that vote or push that vote away, if you would, they’re literally in a lot of ways driving those men that maybe otherwise might have voted for You know, a different type of Democrat than Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, because, by the way, he’s not the definition of masculinity either, as we’ve mentioned. But my feeling is, Dr. Kelly, there’s a lot of these men that might even tell their girlfriend, wife, whatever that, you know, because of whatever fear factor they might have. I think they’re going to tell them, yep, you know, I’m voting for Kamala. At the end of the day, they’re going to still say they voted for Kamala when, in fact, they didn’t.
Caller (Guest) :
Yes, I agree, and that’s what I’m saying. I think that there’s a lot of motivation for people to be less than 100% honest or forthcoming about who they’re voting for, and that’s why I think these polls are very off. With regard to the disregard or disdain, is a better word, that the Democrats clearly have for the traditional mail, it is overwhelming. Some of the ads that I have seen recently that the Harris-Wallace committee has put out are beyond cringeworthy. They highlight men who are effeminate, absolutely out of touch with the reality of what the average male, I think, in this country really supports or represents. They are disgusting, frankly. They also continue to try to portray Republicans and conservatives as some sort of tyrants, when in fact it’s quite the opposite. The people actually supporting Republicans. free choice and supporting our civil liberties, supporting our rights to be left the heck alone by our government. The people doing that are the Republicans, not the Democrats.
John Rush (Host) :
That’s right. Well, and then we’ve got reverse side which this affects you because i look at you as being anytime we’re on air and i always talk about this and i mean it sincerely you know you’re the smartest person on air when you i and steve are totting talking and in the order of of smartness it’s you steve and me because of the things that we’re getting into and talking about and so on and yet we’ve got individuals you know bigwigs which i don’t like this individual anyways yes he’s made a lot of money but i think he got really lucky at certain times and that’s where a lot of the money I’m not saying he’s not smart. I do think he is in some cases. But when Mark Cuban comes out and basically says that on The View and basically says that Donald Trump surrounds himself with only dumb women, nobody around him has a brain. I’m paraphrasing. But, Dr. Kelly, that’s basically what he just said. I mean, doesn’t that tick off a lot of Republican conservative women and even some women in the middle that might think, wait a minute, time out. I know some people that are around, you know, Donald Trump on a routine basis, including the likes of Tulsi Gabbard. Mark, you’re basically saying they’re all morons.
Caller (Guest) :
Exactly. Sarah Huggabee Sanders is one of the brightest young politicians I know. Incredibly articulate. Very, very strong-willed. Kellyanne Conway, frankly, is very articulate. There are people who he’s surrounded himself from way back.
John Rush (Host) :
His daughter-in-law, Laura Trump, you can’t tell me for one second she’s dumb.
Caller (Guest) :
Correct. Correct. And it was just a silly thing for, you know, Mark Cuban is just a stupid thing for him to say.
John Rush (Host) :
Dr. Kelly, I don’t say this very often on air. The guy’s a jackass. Let’s just say it like it is. He’s an absolute idiot.
Caller (Guest) :
Well, and let’s face it, he is the mouthpiece for Kamala Harris. You want to talk about dumb?
John Rush (Host) :
Absolutely.
Caller (Guest) :
You want to talk about dumb? Okay, low IQ? Truly, I don’t think I have ever heard Kamala Harris put together a coherent sentence that Of her own writing. She’s a card-carrying plagiarist. We know that.
John Rush (Host) :
That’s right. I had a guest this week that’s actually a ghostwriter on talking about how that works and the fact that she’s either really dumb, which I believe she is. those that are around her are just as dumb because when these things are sent to because in a lot of cases the things that she’s you know getting written about her or the things that are getting said are typically her feeding information to somebody she’s not writing this stuff herself but the way that works from what this ghostwriter was telling us dr kelly is she’s basically sending stuff off that she’s gone someplace copied and pasted and then just randomly sent off to these ghostwriters they just take it at face value write it as her own words And nobody along the line is checking what she’s doing. That’s ignorance, Dr. Kelly.
Caller (Guest) :
I agree. I think that this is the idea that you are calling people on the conservative side stupid when you have the kinds of things that are happening on their side is really pathetic. And as I said, here’s the deal. Donald Trump isn’t particularly articulate. He’s not a brilliant public speaker. He’s really not.
John Rush (Host) :
He’s a brilliant businessman. He’s very good at strategy. I mean, his answer to, you know, Joe Biden calling all of us as his supporters garbage. And then Donald Trump goes out in the garbage truck yesterday. I mean, these are things that he is extremely good at, Dr. Kelly. I’ll give him credit where credit’s due to your point. Talking in public and getting up in front of crowds without having some things written in advance for him, I’m not saying he’s ignorant. He’s not ignorant. But does he tend to beat around the bush or ramble a little bit here or there? And by the way, that’s just his high IQ, I believe. Anybody that has high IQ, they’ve got a gazillion things going on in their head, and they’re now trying to speak those things. And that gets a little bit interesting, let’s just say it that way, at times. It’s not because he’s ignorant. It’s because he’s extremely smart.
Caller (Guest) :
Exactly. And so I was going to say he’s not a great public speaker for certain. He doesn’t have tremendous command of vocabulary, but he’s very, very smart. You contrast that with a Kamala Harris candidate. who when asked any question, she cannot think off the cuff. She cannot think and speak extemporaneously at all. So if she doesn’t have a teleprompter, she can’t come up with anything, which is why she does the cackling. Cackling for her is a nervous habit where she fills in because she doesn’t have anything to say. And given how often she’s cackling, There’s an awful lot of time that she doesn’t have anything to say. She can’t come up with her own answer. And if there’s not a teleprompter there, she’s at a loss. And you compare that to what Donald Trump did three hours with Joe Rogan.
John Rush (Host) :
I was going to say she can’t do that.
Caller (Guest) :
Oh, he moved seamlessly from economics to history to foreign policy, sports, and back again, okay? He’s talking about, you know, Abraham Lincoln and his loss of his son, Tad, in the Civil War. He’s talking about MMA fighting, talking about the drivers of economic, you know, growth. All of these things. Kamala Harris couldn’t do six minutes. at a rally in Detroit without a teleprompter.
John Rush (Host) :
That’s right. That’s right. Think about that. That’s exactly right. All right. Great segue. We’ll come right back. Don’t go anywhere. If you have a question for Dr. Kelly, please send us a text message. I’ll get that answered as well. It can be anything regarding what we’re talking about now on the election or some of the COVID-related things. I’ve got something from Rand Paul we’ll talk about here in a moment as well. So anything at all, please let us know, 307-282. Affordable Interest Mortgage is next. Kurt Rogers, and yes, Kurt wants to help you out with all of your mortgage needs, whatever they are, and rates change almost daily right now. Find out what he can do for you. 720-895-0500.
John Rush (Host) :
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John Rush (Host) :
And we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory with us today. And if you want to know more about Dr. Kelly, go to our website, RushToReason.com. There’s an entire page dedicated there to her and all of our past episodes. They’re indexed. It’s easy to find. Just go to the show notes section and you can find it there. All right, Dr. Kelly, one of the other things, too, when it comes to some of these folks that think, you know, I’m just going to vote for Harris. I can’t stand Trump. And I’m thinking, number one, I think that’s probably one of the dumbest things ever. one of the most uneducated things you could ever say, because you don’t like someone, you’re going to go ahead and vote against them, even though the other person has far worse policies for the country than what he has. And I understand not everybody loves Donald Trump. I get that. But on the same token, look at what he did for the country. You know, four years he was president. Look what he can do again along those lines. And you and I have talked about this multiple times, along with Steve, Robert Kennedy Jr. and the place that he’ll have in the Trump administration. The Wall Street Journal had an article out this last week talking about how Trump wants him to take a big health role, which you and I have talked about. And if he ends up being head of HHS, that, I mean, maybe this is an overreach on my part, Dr. Kelly, but that’s almost in and of itself enough to vote for Trump.
Caller (Guest) :
Yeah, here’s the analogy I would I would give to you, John, and what I would say to somebody who tells me that I hate Donald Trump and I just can’t vote for him. So I’m going to vote for Kamala. I’d say this would be like if you needed open heart surgery and you had the chance to have the world’s top heart surgeon do your case. But the guy’s a jerk. And she’d say, I’m not going to have that world’s top, the best of the best heart surgeon do my surgery. I’m going to have this person who has their license suspended, has had 14 malpractice cases, and isn’t board certified because she’s really nice.
John Rush (Host) :
She’s nice to me. Her bedside manner is really great.
Caller (Guest) :
She’s prettier. She’s funnier. Because if that’s the decision you’re making, then you are beyond uneducated. You’re really making life-altering decisions. You know that.
John Rush (Host) :
And that’s what we have going on right now, though, with voters, Dr. Kelly. They’re literally looking at it the way you just described it. Other than instead of opting for the best surgeon, they’re opting for who they think is more kinder and gentler. Let’s face it. Even Kamala’s campaign slogan of, you know, joy, which, by the way, I don’t know what that does for the country. So you’re broke. Enjoy us. How does that work, Dr. Kelly? Because typically those that are broke aren’t very joyful.
Caller (Guest) :
Right. And I think honestly, I think the Republicans did not do as good a job as they could have at asking over and over again until they’re blue in the face. The single, you know, the witness test, which is, are you better off today than you were four years ago? I defy anybody. Other than maybe Mark Zuckerberg or George Soros or Bill Gates, I know no real people who could answer, yes, I’m better off today. There’s nothing that’s better, whether we’re talking about grocery store prices, the ability to get a job, buy a house, educate your kids, whatever. There is nothing better. that is better today than it was four years ago. And frankly, I think they should have just, as I said, hammered that question home, not once or twice, but just incessantly, because that’s the litmus test.
John Rush (Host) :
I would have ran some ads, Dr. Kelly, along those lines, even showing some of the you know, homeless, some that are poor. I would have gone to some of the areas that have really been hit hard by the economic policies of the past three and a half years and had some sort of a caption along the lines of, does this look like joy to you? I mean, that would have been how I would have done that ad.
Caller (Guest) :
Yeah, I agree. And I think that part of the reason you’re sealing is seeing the poll numbers trending towards Trump is because some of the disenfranchised groups like, you know, lower income people, blacks, Hispanics. single mom. Those people really are feeling it. And I think many of them, including African-Americans, are saying, no, we are not better off. You know, the Democrats have promised and promised and promised. They have under-delivered, you know, by an order of magnitude, and we are not better off. We are not going to keep falling for this.
John Rush (Host) :
Right. All right, I got a text message that just came in, switching back over to the COVID vaccine side of the fence, which I told people to ask questions more than that’s what we’re here for, folks. So, yeah, don’t feel bad about sending any messages in. We’ll get those answered as much as we can. Again, 307-200-8222. Dear friend of ours got fully vaxxed and one booster back in the early days of vaccination. He’s 36 now, has countless… countless health issues from cardiac issues to gallbladder cancer. He was always super healthy. He’s blaming the vaccine. His issues came about in the past six to nine months. Is it possible, since he hasn’t had any boosters since early 2022, he did get boosted for his job back then? What are your thoughts?
Caller (Guest) :
Oh, it’s a hundred percent, you know, likely related to the, to the vaccine. And the fact that he got his last booster in 22, you know, 22, two years ago, you know, cancer isn’t something that develops overnight.
Caller (Guest) :
Right.
Caller (Guest) :
Okay. And that’s why the things that normally the adverse events that we see, like obviously anaphylaxis, allergic reactions, and even the neurologic complications typically occur very quickly and, The things that are delayed and take a year, a year and a half, two years to rear their ugly heads are things like cancer and some of the autoimmune diseases. Cancers in particular, we are now seeing a huge uptick in people who got boosted a year and a half or two years ago because it takes that long for the immune system to let its guard down and those cancers to develop. Unfortunately, once they do develop, They are growing very, very rapidly. Obviously, you’ve heard the term turbo cancer.
John Rush (Host) :
Yeah, we’ve talked about that many times.
Caller (Guest) :
Extraordinarily aggressive cancers, cancers that are occurring in people where we don’t normally see them. You know, with rare exception, cancer is largely… a disease of aging. Your risk of getting any particular cancer goes up exponentially as we get older.
John Rush (Host) :
And really quick, Dr. Kelly, something that you and I have never really, we’ve brushed across that maybe, but never really talked about that in full. Why is that? I mean, I think common sense would tell me why, but in medical terms, why is that?
Caller (Guest) :
Well, in part, it’s multifaceted. In part, any environmental exposures you have are happening for a longer period of time, for example. So whatever is an environmental component. As we age, your immune system always degrades. It’s part of the process of aging. It’s why people get less resistant to infections. It’s why we always say that influenza is a problem for people over the age of 60. Because your immune system… starts to kind of wind down and degrade so cancers you know are opportunistic and they take place when your immune system isn’t functioning properly okay and then your ability to repair your dna all the repair processes in the same reason that your skin starts to sag and your hair loses its luster and your all of those things that happen your dna repair abilities degrade as we get older. All of that said, we are now suddenly for the first time in the 35 years I’ve been practicing medicine, seeing these aggressive colon cancers in people in their 20s, aggressive skin cancers in people in teens and 20s. I just read a case report of a 17-year-old kid dying of lung cancer. cancer last month. I mean, these are things that we, I’ve never in my entire career even read a case study of that in the past. So and then we’re seeing people whose cancers have been in remission for five, 10 years or longer, all of a sudden come roaring back with a vengeance and being completely unresponsive to traditional chemotherapy regimens. So something very, very different has occurred. And I think it is without question related to the vaccine. So this individual that The caller is noting a young person, somebody in their 30s with gallbladder cancer. That is very young for gallbladder cancer. We normally see that in the sixth, seventh decades of life, not the third. Cool.
John Rush (Host) :
Question for you along those lines. Again, this is something we’ve never really talked about, but it just made me think a moment ago that as we age – and a lot of people try to do things to help that aging out. They use certain products or they’ll have supplements or they exercise, which we talk about it a lot and so on. And the reality is they’re trying as much as they possibly can to – Keep fit, trim and stay young as long as possible. So here’s a question for you. Will these vaccines and what’s happened along those lines, given everything you just talked about in regards to cancer, will some not all but will some folks seem to, quote unquote, age faster with them?
Caller (Guest) :
Well, I think so, because I think of the impact.
John Rush (Host) :
Everything you’re talking about in regards to cancer is also having to do with our our youngness. And I know that’s not the right way to say it, but, you know, how young we look, feel, act and so on. I mean, everything you’re talking about with cancer, wouldn’t it have the same effect upon our aging?
Caller (Guest) :
Well, it really comes down to the impact it has, John, on your immune system. And this isn’t my opinion. We have the studies that prove it. We know there are multiple mechanisms by which these shots result in cancer and result in harm to the immune system. We have been able to document that. Anybody who gets these shots has a huge increase in their levels of IgG4, the immunoglobulin that you’re supposed to have a small amount of. You’re supposed to have a little bit that tells you to ignore pollen and dust so that you’re not constantly wheezing and sneezing. But when you have a huge increase in IgG4, your body gets the message to ignore things that it shouldn’t ignore, like cancerous cells, for example. So the impact on the immune system, we know that it impays the ability for DNA to self-repair. We commonly have proteins and DNA that misfold, that aren’t quite right. Your body’s normally able to recognize those things and either gobble them up and get rid of them or repair them. But the shots impede the ability for the DNA to repair. They suppress what we call the P53 cells. There’s a P53 cell that’s supposed to suppress tumors from growing when they actually do take hold. These shots suppress the tumor suppressors. In other words, they turn off the good guys. They knock out the warriors who are supposed to be keeping you safe. So, yes, I think undoubtedly all of these negative impacts on the immune system, which are well documented. Again, as I said, this isn’t my opinion. We have study after study after study showing this is what’s happening. And I think that overall there will be a negative impact on people’s health and wellness. We are seeing not just increases in cancers, but increases in all kinds of autoimmune illnesses. Things like multiple sclerosis, Crohn’s disease, asthma, psoriasis, eczema, outbreaks of shingles. All of these things are immune modulated.
John Rush (Host) :
Speaking of shingles, I did get a text message after we had spoke last week, after we had gotten off air on the shingles vaccine. And I know we’ve talked about that many times, but we still are getting questions in about that. Is that something as people age they should get or not get? What are your thoughts there?
Caller (Guest) :
I am not a fan of shingles for a number of reasons. It certainly isn’t 100 percent effective. All vaccines have potential for negative side effects. There’s not an insignificant risk of things like Guillain-Barre syndrome following Shingrix. So I do a thoughtful risk-benefit analysis on any medical intervention. I don’t care if it’s taking an antibiotic, doing a surgical procedure, or certainly taking a vaccine. I don’t want to get shingles. I get it myself. I’ve had it multiple times. Anybody who has had chicken pox is at risk for having shingles.
Caller (Guest) :
Right.
Caller (Guest) :
I don’t like getting an outbreak. It’s uncomfortable. It takes a week to 10 days to clear up.
Caller (Guest) :
Right.
Caller (Guest) :
isn’t going to kill me. It isn’t going to paralyze me. It isn’t okay. And why I would risk taking a shot from which I could become paralyzed is have a bad autoimmune response for something that otherwise I might have, you know, I’m in my sixth decade of life. I think I’ve had shingles six times total. So I hope I don’t get it again. I’d love to go to my grave without ever having another outbreak. But I don’t take things that have a risk that far outweighs the benefit. That said, I’ve never taken a flu shot in my career. And I’m a frontline health care worker. I’ve never taken a flu shot. I’ve gotten influenza one time. I was pretty sick. I didn’t feel good. I missed work, which for me is an absolute rarity. I think I stayed home from work for two or three days. I didn’t feel good. OK, the idea of taking a flu shot every year is like playing Russian roulette. And the chance the flu shots, by the way, this year, they’re predicting somewhere in the range of 26 to 28 percent effectiveness. That’s nothing. All the risk.
Caller (Guest) :
Right.
Caller (Guest) :
You get all the risk. Okay, 100% of the risk is there for a maybe 25% chance that you won’t get influenza if you were going to get it anyway. That’s not worth it. The risk benefit doesn’t, for me, again, I’m not giving people medical advice. I’m telling people how I make the decision for myself. And this is the thought process that I go through for myself when I’m making any medical decision.
John Rush (Host) :
Interesting everything we’ve just said to for all of you listening that may you don’t get to see the same text messages that I see, by the way, I do my best to report on all of those. So I’ve had since we’ve been talking, Dr. Kelly, two separate text messages verifying what you were talking about with young people. And unfortunately, and I say this really with all sadness, unfortunately, both of these are reporting on young men’s deaths. From the very thing that you’re talking about, and in some cases, kids in their, I call them kids because they are to me, in their early 20s that, you know, evidently family members made them get vaccinated, which frankly they didn’t need in the first place, but had very adverse effects from. So everything you just said, Dr. Kelly, there are literally people texting us as we speak, verifying what you’re talking about.
Caller (Guest) :
No, I know, and I have my own personal experiences, not just with patients, but with friends and family members. A young kid who did a lot of work for me as a handyman, 21 years old, had to get vaccinated in order to do his other part-time job, and, you know, went home, laid on the sofa at his parents’ house, and never woke up. You know, there are darn few things that cause sudden death in a otherwise healthy 21-year-old. I have a dear friend who’s an avid cyclist, an uber athlete, who not only got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer a couple weeks ago, but pancreatic cancer that is so advanced at the time it was diagnosed as to be fundamentally untreatable. And this is somebody who was the picture of health before this, and all of a sudden has a cancer that is, you know, literally growing before our eyes, where the tumor has doubled in size in a matter of days. These things just didn’t happen before. And I think we have so much information about these mRNA shots. absolutely is reprehensible. I don’t know how much more strongly to say it, that they have not been pulled from the market. Just as a point of reference, John, back in 1976, when the swine flu vaccine came out, it was pulled from the market after there were a total of 50, five, zero serious adverse events reported. It got pulled from the market entirely. We have hundreds of thousands of serious, adverse events reported on these and the fda the cdc who nih turning a blind eye pushing them still pushing them on infants if that’s not the definition of evil i don’t know what is
John Rush (Host) :
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John Rush (Host) :
All right, we are back. Dr. Kelly Victory with us. And again, if you want to know more about Dr. Kelly, just go to our website, RushToReason.com, and you can find her there. And Rand Paul today. Dr. Kelly, back to what you were talking about a moment ago before we went to break. Pfizer drug reps. I mean, the Biden-Harris CDC insists your six-month-old—he’s trying to be funny there— your six-month-old gets three COVID vaccines despite no scientific studies demonstrating decreased hospitalization rates. Is anyone surprised that the public is now hesitant to believe any CDC recommendations? And by the way, there’s a lot to dissect there, Dr. Kelly, but all the more reason why we need a Trump administration with somebody like RFK Jr. in charge. They would work alongside of the likes of Rand Paul to fix this garbage.
Caller (Guest) :
No, this is exactly right. Why in the world would they be pushing one shot, let alone three shots for COVID on a newborn? There were zero newborns. There were zero deaths in the entire duration of the pandemic in babies.
John Rush (Host) :
Zero. We can raise that age up quite a bit, Dr. Kelly. It didn’t happen in kids, period.
Caller (Guest) :
Correct. The only children who were who were supposedly had died of covid were kids who were significantly ill with underlying diseases. They were end stage treatment with leukemia or had end stage, you know. Some of the cancers or other underlying things. They didn’t die of covid. So this is absolute insanity. And it goes along with the obsession that the medical community and more importantly, the pharmaceutical community has with vaccines. And this is all a direct result of the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that gave blanket immunity to these pharmaceutical companies to create and hoist these shots on people. If they were held liable, I guarantee you everything would change. And I don’t know about you, John, but I wouldn’t buy a baby car seat that had no liability attached to it if the thing ended up failing and killing my child.
John Rush (Host) :
That’s right. Okay. By the way, for all of you listening, just to verify everything we’re talking about, another text message. Had a 19-year-old ranch hand fall asleep, not wake up. He, too, was forced by his family to get vaccinated. Grandparents wouldn’t see him. Everyone who came into his folks’ house had to be vaccinated. His sister then began having blood clot issues with pain in her legs. These are healthy folks, too, with no family histories of any kind of problem, Dr. Kelly. So, again, over and over again, everything we’re talking about, I just keep getting message after message after message verifying what we’re talking about.
Caller (Guest) :
Yeah, exactly. And so I’m saying this is not just, you know, what I’m hearing in the medical community. I know I’m seeing it in my own life. personal circle of friends and family and what i is most shocking to me is that so many people continue to be resistant to connect the dots the cognitive dissonance is so overwhelming even amongst my own friends and family they’re sick they will not accept that this is related to the injection i think they just cannot get their arms around that they made a really bad decision that they gave in on something. I have friends, for example, who wasn’t required for their jobs, but they did it because they wanted to go on a cruise. They wanted to attend a friend’s wedding. I’ve got this trip to Hawaii, and I’m saying, you’re going to risk your life.
John Rush (Host) :
Don’t. Change your plans. Do something different.
Caller (Guest) :
And I said to people, I said, listen, I’m not getting vaccinated. The mandates will go away.
John Rush (Host) :
That’s right.
Caller (Guest) :
And they did it out. I said and I said, I promise you the mandates will go away and it will be worth it for you to have held your ground and not have put yourself at risk. Now we have millions and millions of people. It’s probably somewhere in the range of 75 percent of Americans vaccinated. took one of these shots, if not more. Fortunately, the only good news about it, I can say, John, is that such a large percentage of the injections appear to be fundamentally duds. In other words, they didn’t have enough active ingredient that people dodged a bullet. And thank goodness that that’s the case. If we actually had wanted this vaccine to work to stop COVID, we’d be furious. But it never stopped COVID. Didn’t stop you from contracting COVID. Didn’t stop you from spreading it to others. Didn’t stop you from getting hospitalized with COVID. They were a big failure. And the only good thing I can say about them is that so many were duds so that, you know, hopefully there will be millions of people who don’t suffer ultimately from ill effect.
John Rush (Host) :
Had a text message, and this one’s hard to answer, and each of us will have to answer this accordingly, Dr. Kelly, but this is a question to both of us. Do we feel, you and I, a huge sense of loss and deep pain when we lose someone that we know and or care about? This person says, am I just too soft? I don’t handle loss very well. I’m a little bit… of a crybaby, I guess you could say. It just mentally destroys this particular person. My answer back, Dr. Kelly, is, on my case anyways, yes, it definitely hurts. Anytime you lose somebody, just lost my mom here, you know, not long ago, and do those things hurt? Absolutely, Dr. Kelly, they’re crushing. How we each deal with it, I think, is different, and I’m a workaholic. I guess for me, and I think my family knows this, I work, Dr. Kelly. For me, Going back to work and trying to get my mind off of those things is probably the biggest pain relief that I can do. And it’s just been that way for me the majority of my life. But yes, loss hurts no matter who you are. But all of us deal with it differently. That’s my answer.
Caller (Guest) :
Oh, yes, I think undoubtedly. And I think, you know, losses are I think it’s. The normal response to that type of a loss is, you know, grief is a normal part of living. Absolutely. And you need to give yourself time to grieve. There’s a fine line between, you know, what is, I’d say, healthy and what’s not. It’s certainly not healthy to feel no grief. And it’s not healthy to be at the other end of the spectrum where you just are paralyzed and can’t move on. Grief, loss, you know, death is part of life. It is the reality. As a physician, I’ve seen, unfortunately, I’ve been participant in and witness to more deaths than most as a result of what I do for a living. It’s never easy. I commonly cry with families. I commonly cry when I have to tell a family that somebody has passed away. It affects me very, very deeply. Watching a soul leave this earth is always hard. And for me, that extends even to my animals. I’m a huge pet lover. I have dogs, horses, cats. And when my dogs die, it rips my heart out. I mean, truly, it’s very, very painful. And the only thing that helps for me is understanding that. that it is part of life.
John Rush (Host) :
Yeah, it is. And again, folks, believe me, trust me, everybody handles things differently. Some of us handle it in an internal fashion, and that’s probably me, Dr. Kelly, and yet I’m married to somebody where that’s handled more externally. We all do it differently. Grief is a part, to your point, grief is a part of life. And I also agree with you, if you experience grief, And it never shows. There’s probably something wrong with you, and you probably should have that looked at as much as somebody that goes way the other end and really struggles with losses as well, Dr. Kelly, because neither one are healthy. You have to still express grief when it comes along. And my whole reason for this, by the way, is because a lot of you listening, you will be affected by the very things that we’re talking about. Unfortunately, Dr. Kelly—and this is something I want to talk about again today anyways— This isn’t over. To your point earlier, in some cases, and I hate to say it this way, this whole turbo cancer and a lot of things that we’re experiencing, we’re probably just at the beginning of that. It’s going to get worse before it gets better because we’re still pushing this stuff.
Caller (Guest) :
Absolutely. So I think and when I say it’s not over, I mean, we’re talking about probably a decade or more while we still are experiencing the impact and the impact is going to be multifaceted. It certainly will be the cancers that we will continue to be. Dealing with for the period of the next decade. We also are going to see the psychological impacts playing themselves out. The fact that for two and a half, three years, we had little children’s experience of strangers being masked. the people around them standing six feet away from them, not touching them, the fact that people were hospitalized and left alone to die, the psychological impact of much of this is going to last for a long time. The increase in substance abuse that resulted from the depression, the isolation, the desperation that the lockdown caused is going to play itself out for a period of well more than a decade. The autoimmune issues that people are suffering from, the number of allergies, even simple things, you know, increases in asthma, psoriasis, eczema, those sorts of things. These are this is going to be a long lasting impact on our health care system and on the quality of life of people who have had these adverse events.
John Rush (Host) :
Yeah, I’m afraid to say that you’re correct. I don’t want to say that, Dr. Kelly, although I have found through all these years of what you and I and Steve have been doing, you, Dr. Kelly, Steve House, and myself, the things we’ve been talking about for the last four-plus years, I’m not trying to brag, Dr. Kelly, but I don’t think there’s a single thing we’ve been wrong about.
Caller (Guest) :
No, and let me just, one other thing I forgot to mention, the other thing that’s going to play itself out for more than a decade is the impact on fertility rates. These shots had a very, very negative impact on fertility, reproductive health. Not only did we see and prove and study after study that sperm motility, sperm counts decreased in men who got vaccinated, sperm motility decreased, but the ability for women to get pregnant and take those pregnancies, you know, full term decreased. has fallen precipitously. So again, another really negative impact. And yes, I agree with you, you know, Johnny, and I don’t take any great joy in having been right about this stuff. I wish I were wrong. I wish people could look back and say, wow, what an idiot. Dr. Kelly Victor was wrong about all of this. none of this happened because it would have made for a much better outcome. I don’t see any joy in being right because I’ve been the nonstop bearer of bad news for coming up on five years now.
John Rush (Host) :
Yep. I’ll leave it at that. Dr. Kelly, always a joy. Next week, hopefully, I think we will be, and that’s my prediction, we’ll be talking about who won the election. I do think we’ll know by then, especially if you and I and some of the things we talked about today are correct. We’ll definitely know by then, and we’ll recap things then. So looking forward to that as well.
Caller (Guest) :
boy, I sure hope so, and let’s keep our fingers crossed that the cheating and the shenanigans that have been going on aren’t enough to throw this election.
John Rush (Host) :
Dr. Kelly, thank you as always. I appreciate it very much. Enjoy the rest of your day. You too. All right. Appreciate you very much. And again, Dr. Kelly has a page on our website talking all about the things that she does and has done over these past four or five years. Veteran Windows and Doors, 35% off. And that’s the beginning discount they’ve got right now. Find Dave at klzradio.com.
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