It’s finally Friday on Rush To Reason with your host, John Rush.
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But when you die on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that for you.
And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
I think that you got the wrong impression about me.
I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
What I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
James Ray, what do you want to do tonight? The same thing we do every night, Pinky.
Try to take over the world.
Stick the fork in me, Jerry.
I’m done.
Now, here is your host of Rush To Reason, John Rush.
All right, welcome to Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560, Friday Edition. Myself, Andy Payne and Charlie Grimes. How’s Andy today?
Andy’s doing well. Gorgeous day out there. How about you?
Rain’s coming this weekend, so we’ll take it.
Yeah, my lawn loves that.
Nothing wrong with that at all.
You bet.
All right, question of the day yesterday. Octopuses don’t have tentacles. They have arms.
What kind of an arm does the octopus have? A cellophopod arm. I think I’m saying that right.
I thought it was…
Cephalopod or something.
There you go, there you go. Cephalopod arm. Whatever that is.
Okay.
I thought they had tentacles, but they don’t.
They do not. They have arms, John.
With little suction cups on them, right?
They are big huggers. Huge huggers.
Oh yeah. Suck right onto your face.
Yeah.
Like in the movies.
I’m German. Not a big hugger, but they are huge huggers.
Huge huggers. Okay. Today’s Impossible Question.
What happened in the North Atlantic on October 30th, 1991 that spawned a best selling novel and a major motion picture? So there you go. 1991, October 30th.
Well, I assume a ship went down. I have no idea.
All right. Well, answer that question. Those are up on the Facebook page, by the way.
The Impossible Questions are.
All right.
What movies are we doing today, Andy?
Okay. The first movie we’re going to do is Speak No Evil and then Transformers 1.
Speak No Evil, Transformers 1, and Transformers 1 being a prequel to all of the others, right?
Exactly. It’s an origin story.
Okay.
I’ve been waiting for this.
Okay.
So we will talk about that as well.
Okay.
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And welcome back to Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John.
Are you ready for a movie?
Which one are we doing first?
Well, John, you know, we’ve gone at least 20 minutes now without a horror thriller.
Okay.
I think it’s… Let me check my watch. Yes.
Yeah, there we go.
This has been the most horror filled couple of years I have ever seen in my life. Every week or every other week, it’s crazy. Well, wait no longer with Speak No Evil.
Hi, Abel.
Abel has some difficulty speaking. He has what you call congenital aglossia, meaning basically he’s born without a tongue.
It’s only a child, for Christ’s sake.
You can’t talk to him that way.
What is wrong with you?
We have a situation here. Someone left without saying goodbye. So many things have felt so wrong.
Because we do things differently.
No one’s forcing you to stay, but I really hope you do, because today is gonna be a great day.
I don’t know, John, do you trust him?
So, the kid can’t talk?
The kid cannot talk.
Am I hearing that correctly?
This is true. Yeah, the kid, I don’t know, he looks to be about 10-ish. He cannot talk.
Ready?
That would be strange, yes.
All right, well John, this is a story about two families striking up a friendship at first. Ben and Louise are a plain young American couple with an anxious 11-year-old daughter named Agnes. Now, the marriage is struggling, but they’re on a vacation sorting it out, and they’ve basically been moving to England.
They are now moving to England so that he can try to get a job in the European market. They don’t explain much more. Well, there they meet Patty.
He’s played by James McAvoy, a big muscular extrovert who chugs bruskies and laughs loud. His fun wife is Ciara. Ciara?
Ciara? Ciara, that’s right. And Patty’s offensive.
He’s very offensive, but he’s fascinating. And you can tell he has a big heart helping people out. But when Agnes loses her toy rabbit, Patty finds it and the families bond.
They bond. That’s kind of nice, right? All right.
Well, for a change of pace, Patty and Ciara, they invite their new friends to their home in the woods. That’s always great. That’s always a good one.
Nothing’s going to happen there.
Folks, never go anywhere in the woods in a movie. I’m just saying nothing good ever happens in the woods. Just saying.
Well, soon after arriving, it becomes clear Ben and Louise made a mistake. There’s judgmental attitude toward Louise’s vegetarianism. Okay.
Very judgmental. Awkward looks. There’s too much free sex talk.
They talk about free sex and Patty and Ciara, they even act some of it out. Yikes. And of course, there’s Patty and Ciara’s son, Aunt, who can’t speak.
Well, Patty clearly has a temper, and the two sets of parents have very different views on parenting. Throughout it all, there seems to be a cat and mouse game, John, of I’m controlling you. No, I’m not.
I’m controlling you. No, I’m not. I’m bad.
No, I’m misunderstood. Kind of toying with the people who have just come to visit them. By the way, these are Irish people out in the woods.
Okay. Well, it’s like a cat playing with yarn. And meanwhile, Aunt is trying to warn young Agnes.
She’s about 12-ish. Well, ultimately, Ben, Louise and Agnes must discover what these people want with them and try to get away. That’s the story of Speak No Evil.
What do you think?
Sounds kind of freaky.
Oh, yes. Very much so. All right.
What works in Speak No Evil? Well, first of all, James McAvoy is simply a fantastic actor, capable of incredible range. John, he’s great at everything he does.
I mean, this guy, he’s a phone book guy. Read a phone book on stage and I’ll watch it. He’s that good.
He’s done multiple personalities in a movie. He’s done Professor Xavier, right? And anything else.
But now he’s a laughing monster. The whole cast is excellent. Mackenzie Davis and Scoot McNary.
They showed depth with Ben Luiz, right? So they really bring something to the roles and not just typical victim, right? They bring something to the roles.
I like it. With one becoming cowardly and the other a primitive warrior. Well, the tension really builds with terror just out of reach for much of the film.
This is a great look at a rarely seen evil in mankind. Now I want to talk about this. You got predators playing with their prey.
All right. And we see it in the workplace. We do.
Or we see it with con artists. These are people who hate their prey, but make them feel safe. Hate them, but make them feel safe.
I’ve seen this in the workplace. I’ve had it done to me, but I’ve seen it a lot more with friends and relatives and so forth, where you’ve got somebody who acts nice, acts nice, acts nice, and they are killing you as they do it. This is just it.
There are people who are going to watch this and just be squeamish watching that much. Truly evil people delight in making their prey feel safe. And this is something you see in Speak No Evil.
It’s rarely that I’ve seen a movie that brings us out as well. I’ll just say that. All right.
What doesn’t work in Speak No Evil? Well, most of the film is designed not to horrify, but to create discomfort. And that’s not fun to watch.
All right. I mean, if I go to a horror film, what am I going there for, John?
To get scared.
Yeah. To get scared. Well, bring it on.
Okay. They take too long getting to it. Much too long.
That long build up. Look, watching these people interact, isn’t that entertaining really along the way? Yes, you’ve got a lot of uncomfortable moments along the way, but does discomfort really entertain you?
Not much. You’re just watching really good acting. Does that make sense?
Yeah. Well, the gore is good, but the plot reveal doesn’t fully make sense. It’s like, wait, that was a scam?
It’s a bit of a letdown, I’ll be honest. The bottom line is, is this entertaining? John, the performances are and the action cranks up at the end.
It really does. But is the long build up really more entertainment, or is it just an artful study with great acting? And after a while, I sit back and I’m like, you know, I don’t want to watch these people act really great in a study in this cat and mouse game.
Don’t get me wrong, I like that for a while. But after a while, it’s kind of like get to it. I think they could have shortened this movie by at least 15 minutes, and that would have helped a lot.
Just get to the point, get to the point. And the movie’s not even that long. That is the real problem.
This movie’s just over an hour and a half. So it’s a short movie.
To get to it.
Right. And so I think what you’re getting to here, John, is that you just don’t have that much plot to stretch out. And I think they were struggling with that.
There you go. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes liked this movie a lot.
They gave Speak No Evil 83%.
Because it’s artistic or what?
I think so. Artistic and also just because of McAvoy’s acting. He’s so good, John.
He is just so good. I can’t get enough of the guy. I really can’t.
And everybody else is terrific, too. Everybody nailed their parts.
Not a lot of people in this movie, I noticed.
No, this is basically a play.
Okay.
All right. For a while, they’re there in public, but then it’s basically a play.
Main characters, there’s what? Two, four, six, eight, eight or nine people?
There are six main characters. You’ve got a side character who’s a seventh and that’s it. Okay.
Quality, I’m going to give it three, just three. It drags too much for a movie of this type. Not bad though.
Okay. Still a good movie, solid, just not great. Political, I’m going to give it two and a half, just touting the vegetarianism for me as always.
I don’t know. Because-
You’re a meat eater.
Well, I’m a meat eater, but also, let’s face it, it’s kind of a lefty thing for the most part. Cruelty to animals and so forth. I’ve always wondered, also, the woman in this movie, she is very-
Louise, she is very much into vegetarianism. She doesn’t just not eat because of health reasons, it’s because of save the animals, save the animals, save the animals. So what’s it like for Ben and her daughter who are not vegetarians?
I’ve always wondered about this in families. Have you ever known a family where somebody is a big-time vegetarian for ideological reasons and the other people aren’t?
Can’t say as I did.
And they have to coexist. I’m not sure how they do.
Yeah, I don’t- I never know anybody that way.
Yeah.
So no idea.
They don’t explain that in this movie. Maybe that would have been something that would have opened up her character a little bit more.
I’ve known families that are vegetarian, but never that dynamic you just mentioned.
Right. It’s kind of a hard thing to put together.
I would think so.
I would think that people, for the most part, are simply not going to be able to coexist to use the leftist term.
I would think it would be no fun.
It wouldn’t be fun. I mean, I-
Going out to eat, other things, that would just be no fun.
John, as you know, I love my wife very much. But could I be married to her if she were a liberal?
That’d be tough.
No. I don’t know how I could coexist. I’m not saying I would divorce.
I don’t believe in divorce. I’m just saying I would be- It’d be hard though, Andy.
It’d be miserable to death, right?
That’d be tough.
Yeah. But how about if she were a vegetarian? Which she is not, by the way, at all.
Look, when you are that unequally yoked, it’s really tough and that’s not even a religious thing. That’s just a reality thing.
It’s an everyday thing.
Yeah. So anyway, getting back to Speak No Evil. Look, the bottom line is, this is a movie that has some really good elements.
What was the moral score? He didn’t give me that.
Yeah, I did. Two. Oh, I did not.
No, I did not. More religious, I gave it two. Yeah, the sex stuff goes a little…
Too much of it.
Well, you don’t need it. But then again, I know they’re trying to create discomfort. So you could give it a three and say, well, that’s just what you should expect from this kind of movie.
Fair enough. Okay. I’m just grading it down for people what to expect.
Okay. Bottom line, the movie drags too much and takes too long to get to the action. It really does.
That’s what takes it down from a four to a three. Do I recommend going to Speak No Evil? You know what?
There have been some better horror movies out recently. I’d see one of those, but it’s also not a bad night at the movies.
Do people die in it?
People die? I’m going to say this. Yes.
Okay. Okay. So people die.
How many horror movies have nobody dying, John?
Well, there are those.
Yeah.
You know, sometimes the bad guy gets it.
That’s true.
Not often, but sometimes.
It can happen. It can happen. But there you go.
Speak no evil.
What’s the horror movies I like, by the way, where the bad guy ends up getting it?
Yeah, in the first five minutes.
Yeah, I love that part. That’s the best horror movie ever.
Then John, the pressure’s off. John’s not sweating.
That’s right. I’m good then. All right.
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Are you ready for another movie?
Absolutely.
All right, well, John, I’ve waited a year for this film.
The whole year, huh?
Yes, the whole year. I’m not kidding. Finally, a Transformers film that looks fresh in Transformers 1.
Where’s Optimus Prime?
The filthy red and blue bot?
Gives off a Corotid Metal extension.
Okay, Corotid, that is too far.
Okay.
You have the power to make your world better.
But this fight is mine.
Okay, so he’s a little intense.
Yeah, just a little.
Now is the time to stand together.
Please don’t do this.
You need to move out of my way before I move you myself.
All right, John, sound kind of intense.
Not bad.
A little bit.
Previews are interesting.
Well, John, you and I, we often talk about different things off air. And for years, you’ve asked me things like, was Optimus Prime always Optimus Prime, right?
Right.
Were he and Megatron ever friends? John, we now have an origin story to answer all your questions. This is for you.
I’m kidding, folks. John does not care about Transformers.
I’ve seen him, but yeah, not a huge deal.
Yeah. I grew up on him. I love the Transformers.
Okay. First, John, let’s look at the cast. You got to hear this cast.
Chris Hemsworth, Brian Tyree Henry, Scarlett Johansson, Keegan Michael Key, Steve Buscemi, Lawrence Fishburne, John Hamm. What do you think?
Not bad.
Yeah, it’s loaded. Well, Hemsworth, he stars as Orion Pax, along with his buddy D16. Together, they’re just a couple of miners working for Energon.
You know, they’re mining for Energon, the Autobot energy source. It’s scarce now. In all the Primes, the Autobot leaders, they died in the war except Sentinel Prime, the current leader, and everybody idolizes Sentinel Prime.
Well, Sentinel tells the miners he is going to the surface seeking the matrix of leadership to bring Energon back, but with no luck. Well, eventually, the foursome of Orion Pax D16, the rules following boss Elita 1 and B127. Okay, that actually matters, those four characters.
Eventually, they wind up on the surface, learning truths about the war, Energon and Sentinel Prime. Well, this launches them on an adventure, John, during which they acquire the great ability they have always lacked as simple worker bots, transforming. They weren’t able to transform before.
All right? And by the way, it’s very funny, as they learn for the first time how to transform their, let’s just say they had no practice. And it’s kind of funny with them trying to learn how to transform as they are plummeting down a mountainside.
But Orion and D16, they’re on different paths. Orion, who will become Optimus Prime, he fights for good. But D16, who’s going to become Megatron, he will become his mortal enemy.
So we see the transformation of a good guy into a disillusioned angry villain. That’s a lot for kids to take in, just so you know. This sets us on a great path going forward.
Who will lead, right? Who’s going to lead? And can enough energon be found for all the Autobots?
And was there ever a war between Autobots and Decepticons? Why was there a war? Why did this war break out?
We will see. And most important, can this prequel survive a series that was in full collapse? And that is the story of Transformers 1.
What do you think?
Doesn’t sound bad.
Right. And the series was in full collapse. Can we all agree?
They’ve made several awful bombs in a row. I mean, the last time they made a good one was Bumblebee. And by the way, B127 is going to become Bumblebee later.
Okay. All right. Well, what works in Transformers 1?
First of all, great cartoonistry. The look is immersive. It immerses you in a world, a whole new world without confusing us.
You know, a lot of times with these cartoons and these, or even the real life looking ones with a lot of CGI, they take us into a world and it’s just too confusing and you don’t care anymore. A lot of these Marvel movies have become that way. This one, you can get it.
You’re immersed in the whole new world, but none of it’s confusing. It’s very easy to just feel yourself being in it. I like it.
There’s one huge problem with live action series, right? The ones we’ve been watching, and that’s not the Transformers. They look too mechanical and confusing, a metal mess of gears, aren’t they?
It’s hard to get into these characters at all. The original cartoon showed much cleaner looks, and this film returns to that so you can embrace the characters. That’s a really good thing.
This film, it also has a much better acting and balanced script. Now, this is something important, the balanced script. There’s plenty of humor without losing focus.
There’s drama without dragging. There’s a good plot, and you have very nice character development without overdoing it, so it doesn’t really slow you down. I really like that, John.
A lot of times, character development, especially on a lot of these kid movies, they either have none of it or they immerse you in it and drag it out.
Right.
They don’t do that in this movie. It’s just really well balanced. There’s a great message on good people becoming bad.
And I want to talk about this for a bit. Betrayal, then bitterness, then revenge. That’s what they usually go through.
So you’ll have good people who suddenly feel terribly betrayed. Maybe they have been, right? And they become incredibly bitter.
And then they seek revenge in their entire life is about revenge. It’s about getting even. It’s about getting those who got them.
And I’m going to be honest, John, this really helps us understand movements like the Liberty Movement or the pro-choice movement. Okay. People on both sides of the aisle.
The Dave supporters. Think about that for a moment. Because we wonder, when you when you deal with these people who are absolutely immersed in bitterness and revenge, they don’t, you can’t reason with them.
Have you noticed this? Good point. Right.
And so they will look at, I’ll tell you right out, I had a choice to make at one point in my life politically. I was a conservative, obviously. But George W.
Bush, he gave us John Roberts. He put him on Supreme Court later. Along comes Obama.
And we all thought on that faithful day that John Roberts was going to give us a 5-4 decision to stop Obamacare. And not ruin one seventh of the economy. Now, I know people are saying, why are you putting this in a movie review?
Because this is important. This was important to me. When that happened, I fell to my knees in my, when that came out, I fell to my knees in my living room and screamed or yelled or whatever.
I was so furious. I have not had anything, any kind of betrayal like that hit me that hard my entire life. One seventh of the US economy was about to be destroyed.
By the way, it is. Okay. I’m not going to explain why, but it is.
And all by a guy who we were supposed to trust, who had been put there to help us. All right. At that point, I could have become so enraged, I could have become one of those who basically equates Republicans with Democrats, hates anything, and only wants revenge all the time.
You know, the people who think about nothing but the 2020 steal. Right? That is what you see in this movie.
When you see Megatron be betrayed as this young guy D16, and he feels the betrayal of the leader he looked up to, the leader he trusted, it changes him. And he turns to bitterness, and suddenly his buddy can’t relate to him anymore, and can’t reach him anymore. Have you seen this with people?
Yeah. Pro-choice movement is very much the same thing. Now, obviously, I disagree with their science, but they feel that people they trusted have taken away autonomy over their own bodies.
Right? And they will listen to nothing else, because a lot of people always wonder, how come pro-choice people will vote solely on that issue, that single issue, and avoid, ignore all the other things happening in the country? This is why.
And so when you see Megatron become a villain, they do it in that way. They take something that we have been seeing every day happen, play out in our American lives, and we see people, good people change. And I thought it was really interesting, and I thought it was a good lesson for young people, because it was like, look, that moment’s going to happen to you when somebody’s really going to betray you.
What are you going to become next? Yeah, you’re going to get angry either way. You’re going to be disillusioned either way.
But what are you going to become? Great lesson for young people. That is something that works in Transformers 1.
Next, a greater message is on how one should limit what we can become, I’m sorry, how no one should limit what we can become by taking our choices away, all right? And what the basic message was is you make your destiny. That’s what it means to transform, to become an Autobot.
And it basically says we are all Autobots. We can transform our lives. We can become whatever we wish to be.
We direct our destiny. We’re in charge. We have choices to make.
Don’t let anybody take that away from you.
It’s a great message.
All right. What doesn’t work in Transformers 1? Well, there’s a bit too much action.
There really is the roller coaster. You know, these roller coaster things that all these kid movies are doing nowadays. It goes on and on and it detracts from the story.
You got some good stuff going there. Don’t get me wrong. I like a lot of action.
Just don’t overdo it. Slow down. Simplify.
Make it easier for kids to follow. And by the way, make it easier for me to enjoy. Next, Steve Buscemi.
Terrible misuse of him.
A boring character.
Yeah, but it’s a boring character.
One of the funniest guys on the planet.
Yes, and they gave Steve Buscemi a guy who brings life even to bad movies. Let’s face it, he does, right? Yeah, they gave him a boring character.
I’m sorry, but that is a mortal sin. Yeah, from which you cannot be forgiven. I’m sorry for which you can’t be forgiven.
Terrible. Okay, next, D16 who becomes Megatron. His revenge is too brutal for kids.
Too much. All right. Now for adults, we don’t care.
We’re watching a cartoon, but for kids, it’s a little over the top, wouldn’t have done it. Fine for adults, but there were kids in the audience. It went too far.
All right. That’s Transformers 1. Rotten Tomatoes gave Transformers 1, and this is shocking for a Transformers movie.
88 percent. 88 percent. That’s four and a half stars.
I’m going to go almost that high. Quality, I’m giving this four stars. This was a really, really good movie.
And by the way, with the humor, I noticed that I was laughing more than anybody in the auditorium. I was. I was getting some very good laughs out of this.
This was a funny movie. And you know, Chris Hemsworth and these guys, Keegan-Michael Keegan. These are funny people.
They can really deliver a line. The guy who becomes Bumblebee, B127 is very funny. And stay a little ways into the credits, folks.
He has another funny one that you’re not going to want to miss. Okay. This is a funny movie.
This is a good action comedy. This is just a very good movie. And it’s easily the best Transformers movie I’ve ever seen.
It’s even better than Bumblebee, which was very good. Next, Political 3, Moral Religious 3, doesn’t say anything on either. Yay.
This thing did not preach at you. It just made a movie. You know, and I suppose people, different people could see what they want in it, right?
You know, it’s all about choice, maybe pro-choice or see what they want. I don’t know. I got no clue.
Conservatives, we could say, you know, freedom, liberty, individuality and so forth. We see what we want in it. It’s a Rorschach test, whatever.
Basically, I don’t think it’s preaching at all. I think it’s entertaining you folks. I recommend you go to Transformers 1.
You can bring your kids, but understand, at least the really young ones, there’s going to be a really tough moment for when they get revenge.
Okay.
Transformers 1, see it on the big screen. It’s worth it.
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And we are back on this fine Friday. Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560. All right, before we head into the four o’clock hour, you’ve got something you wanted to play from JD Vance.
Yeah, because JD Vance held a little Q and A at the end of one of his rallies. And by the way, he is good at rallies. Just so you know, this guy’s…
He’s pretty funny, actually.
He is. And for all these people who think, these Trump supporters, love ya, I’m a Trump supporter, but you and I always, we admit, look, he can’t debate. He’s not a debater.
And in debate, when you get a hard question, you have to very quickly disarm the question and then churn back on them, right? And explain your side. And do it very quickly and effectively.
You can’t just attack. That doesn’t get you anywhere.
Right. So what JD Vance did was something you generally don’t see at these rallies. He took a series of questions from the liberal media in front of all his peeps.
You want to hear a little?
Let’s hear it.
Okay, here we go.
Absolutely.
Family members should help out more. Unfortunately, that is not a reality for every Wisconsin family. So what policies do you and former President Trump support that would make childcare more accessible for our hardworking Wisconsin families?
Yeah. So one, I didn’t say that grandparents should help out more. I said that our government should make it easier for grandparents to help out more.
And that’s a very important distinction because…
Okay, really quick. Notice he corrects, by the way, you didn’t hear the whole question. I’m sorry.
That’s when it started. That’s fine. Notice how he first corrects her question because she was trying to rephrase it and trap him.
Continue.
Because if you look at the public policies we have in this country, we spend a lot of money on child care, and rightfully so. There are a lot of families out there who are struggling with child care, and we want to make it easier for them. Look, the way I think about it is we want options, right?
If you’re a young mom or you’re a young dad, you want to spend more time at home with the kids, we should make that easier. If you want to go back to the work after a couple years, we should make that easier. If you want to go to work right away, we just want people to be able to fulfill their dreams as they see them.
That’s what’s great about this wonderful country of ours, is everybody’s got on something a little bit different, but here’s the issue right now. Right now, government policy prioritizes one model of business-provided daycare. And there’s nothing wrong, by the way, with that one model, but we ought to be promoting other access options for a lot of families.
Like, for example, maybe you want to send your kid to a daycare, but maybe you want to send your kid to a church daycare. Or maybe you’d like to be able to get together with other families in your neighborhood to try to do something where each of you is taking care of the kids in your own way, maybe one person takes one day off, one person takes Tuesday off, one person takes Wednesday off. Maybe that means that grandparents would actually like to be able to help out a little bit more, but they can’t financially because they can’t afford to take off from their own jobs to help out with mom and dad and the kids.
There are so many different options out there, but what does the government subsidize? Just one. We only subsidize, we only support one model in this country.
And what President Trump and I believe is that we ought to support every model. We ought to let people make their own choices in family care, not try to force one government size fits all approach on everybody.
Okay, really quick, what he’s really saying there is, we don’t need equal outcome.
Right.
Opposite of Kamala Harris.
And we also don’t need control.
No.
Of the process. And notice how he’s offering, but notice what he did there. He first disarmed the question.
Because she wanted to put him in a question of being a Republican ogre who doesn’t help anybody. You’re not throwing enough money at this. What he first does is disarms her question, corrects it.
Now, by the way, could Trump do that?
No.
No.
He’d be talking in circles.
I’m not doing this to bash Trump. I’m doing this to give people an idea of how good JD. Vance is in a debate and what a difference it is to have somebody.
Because this is a debate. These people are trying to put him in a corner. Yeah, they’re trying to put him in a corner.
And it’s not working. Okay, you’re ready for the next one?
Really quick, the only thing that I would have done on his part to have put a little jab on their side would be, you know, what I’m really saying is everybody’s different. We don’t need equal outcome. We don’t need equity because the reality is everybody wants something different.
Yeah, the only thing is, is that he was kind of on a different track.
I know. I know.
Yeah.
But ultimately, that’s what he said.
It is what he said. And by the way, on each one of these, he does the answer in under two minutes.
Perfect. Which is also key.
Right.
And don’t be wandering all around the block. You got to get to the point. Another thing is, really quick, Andy, this is like your movie reviews.
Yeah.
And I love Trump. But he’s your movie review that takes two hours to get to the plot when it could have been done in an hour.
Right.
That’s Trump versus JD.
Yes. You could have cut a lot out of that movie.
And do so because no one cares.
Another big thing that Trump does is he drops him. He steps on mines. Because another thing she wanted him to do was bash the system already in place.
What does he say? He says, hey, that’s a great system too.
But we need additional.
Yeah. Nothing wrong with that. But this was there are there are so many strategic elements in what he just said.
Agree. So brilliant.
Okay. Let’s do another one here. Here we go.
James Kelly with Civic Media. Right now in the Chippewa Valley, we’re facing a health care crisis with the abrupt closure of two hospitals earlier this year, as well as a number of clinics. Glad you mentioned providing actual concrete answers to questions.
What concrete plans would your administration have to protect rural health care access?
So there are a couple of things here. So first of all, this goes back to the immigration issue. And why does it go back to the immigration issue?
Because a lot of our rural hospitals are bearing the burden of providing health care to millions of people who shouldn’t be in this country to begin with. And so those hospitals go bankrupt, and then a lot of American citizens can’t afford health care. Now you might not think that rural health care access is an immigration issue.
I guarantee it is an immigration issue, because we’re bankrupting a lot of hospitals by forcing these hospitals to provide care for people who don’t have the legal right to be in our country.
Okay, really quick here. He’s right. What did the questioner want?
The questioner always wants to bash Republicans. You’re not throwing enough money at this. We need to raise taxes even further, throw more money.
Nothing should ever go under. Look what he does. It immediately turns it to an issue that’s in our favor.
Continuing on.
We’ve got to stop that. Kick these illegal aliens out, focus on American citizens, and we will do a lot to make the business of rural health care much more affordable.
He’s right.
There are a couple of other things that we can do, too. So one option, and this is something that President Trump is very proud of and rightfully so. He provided a lot of choice to veterans in health care, because look, a lot of folks in rural areas, they live maybe 15 minutes away from a viable clinic, but two hours away, an hour and a half drive from a VA medical center.
So why does it make sense to make a Vietnam veteran drive three hours or four hours round trip to get health care when it would actually be cheaper for the government and also better access for that veteran to get it 15 minutes away from his home? So give more choice to people, and then that veteran’s going to a local service provider, which again makes that business model a little bit more viable. And here’s the problem.
The reason why all these rural health systems are going out of business is we’re sending everybody to get health care services two hours away. And if there aren’t enough patients for those rural health systems, then they are going to go out of business. So we’ve got to promote access.
We’ve got to make it easier for folks to get to those hospital systems in the first place. I just gave you a couple answers, cut down on legal immigration, promote veteran choice, but there’s a lot more that we could do beyond that. And I think when Donald Trump and I are president, we will.
Okay, the guy tried to trap him. What happened?
Backfired.
Oh, is this guy good? Okay, I got one more.
We got time. We cut it.
Here we go. And just so you know, this is a two-part question. I cut off the first half.
Here we go. Yes, ma’am.
Thank you, Senator. This is Veronica from CNN. If I could ask a follow-up question on the IVF bill.
How can voters trust lawmakers’ sincerity to protect IVF if both parties keep blocking every proposal from moving forward? Thank you.
Okay, really quick here. They had just, I’ll be very quick. They had just talked about how the Democrats had put forth an IVF bill in the Senate that was a terrible bill, loaded with stuff, and he had already taken it apart.
So what she’s trying to say is, if you guys don’t, if you guys do not promote this, whatever the bill is, then you hate IVF.
Here we go.
Well, look, I just answered that question. And what I said is, it is not an IVF bill. It’s a Democrat show bill to say that they support IVF, when if they really supported access to fertility treatments, they would pass legislation that did exactly that, and they would get every single person in the United States Senate to vote for it.
It’s really, it’s really not that complicated here. The problem that Republicans have, just substantively, the problem Republicans have with the bill that they’re pushing in the Senate right now, is that it would be a huge infringement on religious liberty. I want to protect people’s access to fertility treatments.
I’d also like to protect Christian hospitals, right, to conduct their hospitals as they see fit. And you can do both of those things. We’re a big enough country.
Okay. Yeah. Good point.
I mean, is this good?
Very good.
This is how he answers questions. He immediately disarms the question, then comes back and gives our side and shows how our side has the answers that, first of all, are better financially. But secondly, free you up.
They free your life.
Yep.
This is what we can do with a great debater. What do you think?
Absolutely. In fact, shows that he should have debated Kamala versus Trump, but that wouldn’t have happened. Yes.
He should have been debating Kamala instead of Trump. And by the way, what did I say even before Biden stepped down? I said Kamala is hoping Biden steps down because I said this on air.
She doesn’t want to debate this guy.
Right. Absolutely.
He would have demolished.
He would have torn her up.
Yes.
And he will tear up Walls if that even happens. Doubt it will, but if it does, he’ll tear him up.
I think they’ll have one debate. It’s going to look awfully bad if Walls totally dodges him, but I wish they’d have two.
Oh, I agree.
It’s just you can’t get enough banging on somebody like that.
Not yet. It isn’t going to happen. In fact, to your point the other day, they’re going to struggle with even having another one with Kamala and Trump based upon everything happening with the whistleblower and some of the things that are happening along those lines.
And the more of that continues to get drug out, and hosts like Meg and Kelly just keep hammering that.
It’s going to look worse for them.
Good luck.
Yeah. And by the way, he got a question from The New York Times, which is pretty good. He got another question on abortion and he just shredded it.
The guy is incredible.
He does a good job. He does a good job. All right.
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Robots and androids.
There you go.
Yeah, because we just did Transformers.
Correct, correct. All right, in closing, when it comes to JD Vance and some of what may come up with the presidential debates and or vice presidential debates, I’ll be surprised if there’s another presidential debate knowing what happened in the last one. And I think hopefully there’s enough people around Trump to say, unless you can memorize and handle things like JD is, don’t go in there.
Yeah, I thought he would do much better. Well, I didn’t think he would do well. I thought he was going to lose going into that debate.
And he lost worse than I thought. But I thought with JD Vance and Tulsi Gabbard around him, he would at least acquit himself. Not so horrendously.
And people, once again, they hear that and they think I’m anti-Trump. How many? No, John.
Andy, our job is to comment on these things and put direction back into it in an honest fashion so that people then can decipher what needs to happen next and so on and so forth. We’re not here to candy coat things. No, at least I’m not.
I love Sean Hannity. I love Dan Bongino. I love these people, but they’re always going to, let’s face it, put a lot of frosting on Trump’s performance.
Why? Because they want that next interview. They want to be loved.
You know, it’s good for their ratings. I’m not going to interview Trump. I’m just going to tell you exactly how he’s doing.
In fact, if Trump comes to Aurora and he listens to us, which I hope he does, he’ll get shot the straight scoop because I’m not going to candy coat it.
No. And by the way, because I love the guy.
I want him to win.
But I want him to win.
Sometimes constructive criticism is what it takes to win, Andy.
John, did that performance help him win?
No, it made it the opposite.
Okay.
All right. We’re going to come back, have some fun. We’ll get into more of this on Tuesday, but we’ll come back and have fun.
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