HR2 A Republic to Keep: Preserving the Wisdom of 1776. The Case for American Self-Sufficiency 4-2-25 by John Rush
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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Good afternoon, John. We’re doing great. Thanks for having us back.
SPEAKER 11 :
Always a joy. Our founding patriots blessed us greater than our appreciation of them. Yeah, that’s for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it’s interesting because I wanted to do this topic because in the next couple of weeks, we begin the 250-year celebrations that will last over the next year or two. And then with what we’ve seen in Congress the last couple of days, it makes it even more pertinent to talk about this today than it might have been otherwise.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, let’s get into it. Let’s get started.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, our founders, when we look at what they did for us and over the length of period, I don’t think we properly appreciate it because if we study it at all, we think it happened in a very compressed timeframe. But if you go back and look from the first of the independence movement after the Stamp Act in 1765 until the end of the War and the Peace Treaty, that was 1783. That was 18 years. that they sacrificed and struggled to get the independence that we so cavalierly throw away on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, you know, your comment about how much they actually did and over how much time they did it, we tend to just sort of put them in this small little square box and think, oh, you know, they did a few things here and a few things there. No, they dedicated their life to this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely. And it was not just the people that carried the muskets. It was the women, the children. Everybody was contributing that was on the independent side and at very minimum sacrificing. But they were contributing food, clothing, other types of things that would support the effort. And it took everybody. And there were people that died before the Declaration of Independence was ever even signed that contributed to the effort. And so we forget about all of the efforts, and it took all of them then, just like today it takes all of us to make our country as good as it can be.
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And I know this is a hard question, Richard, but do you think they knew what they were getting into prior to it? I mean, in other words, do you think they knew what those sacrifices were going to be, or did they just address them as they came?
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Well, I think there’s probably a little bit of both. I think it started out addressing some things as they came, but then as they became more and more either committed or resigned and having to go to independence versus hoping the king would change his ways, I think then they became much more strategic in what they thought they would have to do. And because if you look at the colonies, while the war was going on and while things were going on, 1774 and 1775, the Congresses or the legislatures in the colonies were coming up with their own laws and things of that type nature. So it was not an emotional reactionary movement. It was very much a responsive movement to the way the king was treating the colonies and their desire to break free and be independent in individual liberty, not collective liberty.
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And we even, you know, as you know, and this is a quote that I had to, I remember I was young, there was a, you know, play at school, and I had to play Patrick Henry, so the give me liberty or give me death quote is one that I will forever remember, Richard, because when you’re a kid and you learn those lines, it’s one of those things that you just never, ever forget, and I happened to play Patrick Henry in that play. But there was a guy that I think, and this is my opinion, I think he really did understand what that statement meant, and he was willing to give it all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely. And by the time he said it, and we just celebrated the 250th anniversary a week or two ago of that speech, by the time he said it, he was all in committed. And he ended up helping to write the Constitution for Virginia and being the first governor of Virginia and all kinds of service to his people. fellow countrymen after that statement, but he was committed just like we’ll talk about the signers of the Declaration.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, let’s move on. There’s others here that I want to make sure we don’t forget, because there’s a lot of them. And I’ve said this before with you and without you being on, Richard, and the reality that there was a lot of those founding fathers that literally gave it all. And I mean, when I say gave it all, folks, they had literally nothing left over when it was all said and done. They had given every single thing. They had family, friends, money, you name it. They gave it all so you and I could have freedom today, Richard.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think that’s the thing we need to remember. They pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor signing the Declaration of Independence. Nine of them died fighting or under hardship. Twelve had their homes pillaged and destroyed. Five were captured and interrogated and died in captivity. Two lost sons. Another one had two sons captured. They lost wives and fortunes. But the thing that’s amazing is not one of them betrayed their pledge and trust with the other signers, despite all of that suffering. And to me, that example for us is one that we should remember and honor.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I’m one that thinks, and I think you would agree with me, those guys especially signed. They realized at that point in time, the minute they put their pen to paper, back then the quill and the ink to paper, I think they in that time realized exactly what they were doing and what the consequences would and probably could and or would be in the end.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they knew what would happen when they signed because they knew there’d be a death warrant from the King of England on their heads. They probably didn’t know exactly what would happen, but I’m sure they knew they would all pay a price and just hope that they would win in their effort.
SPEAKER 11 :
Richard, and I’m not trying to change the subject or anything along those lines, but Trump today, he was out, he was talking about terrorists. I’ll get into a little bit more of that here later in the program. I’ve got another guest joining us at the bottom of the hour that will talk about that as well. But I’m afraid, Richard, that we have a country today that, A, Wouldn’t give it all. We have some that aren’t even willing to suck up some tariffs for a little while. And yes, I realize it raises prices and ultimately it’s a tax on us as consumers when it’s all said and done. But you have to somehow level the playing field. And so many countries have gotten away with absolute total murder when it comes to our exports into their countries. You know, what I’m getting at, Richard, is we live in a day and age right now where we can’t even suck it up to pay tariffs.
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We could do a whole segment about the tariffs and how we’ve been abused since the end of World War II. propping up other countries and resuming the reciprocal tariffs will make it much more fair for us. Dr. Joseph Warren, who was one of the leaders of the independence movement, he was killed at Bunker Hill before independence was declared. And in one of his speeches, he told the patriots, act worthy of yourselves. And that’s good advice for us as well. We need to act like we deserve the liberty that we’ve been given.
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Yeah, and again, I’m afraid that, and this is not a blanket statement because we’ve got a lot of great men and women that are even serving in our armed forces that know exactly what it means to give it all. We’ve got families of those particular individuals that know exactly what it’s like to give it all. Unfortunately, Richard, those are the minority. I mean, we’ve got people running around this country right now that just because they don’t like a particular person is trying to cut waste, fraud and abuse. They’re willing to burn down Teslas and or key them and or do whatever else they don’t like just because they don’t like that particular individual. Yeah, those are people that I guarantee are not willing to lay their life down for the country.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely not, because all that side wants is raw power. And if they don’t get power the way they want it, then they throw a temper tantrum because they are very selfish and very immature. And just like children who don’t get what they want. And our country has to work. as a constitutional republic where the majority wins, but the rights of the minority are respected and not trampled like they are in a democracy. And when people on both sides have done that with respect to each other, it’s functioned much better than it does today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Agreed. When we kind of close things out here, as we, I should say, kind of close things out here, and you look at some of the other individuals and what they sacrificed and some of the quotes that they have, which I definitely want to close out with, Richard. What I want, though, to make sure that folks… realize is we tend to, and I get it, Richard, I can do the same thing. We go about our daily lives. We’ve got our families. We’ve got our jobs. We’ve got all the things that we work on. And yes, those things are important. And we get caught up in all of these day-to-day activities, which we need to. They have to be done. These things have to be accomplished. Otherwise, we don’t put food on the table. And I understand all of that. Yet there are times where we have to sit back and reflect upon what got us here in the first place. In other words, what happened to allow us to even be here today?
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Well, I think that’s a great, great statement. And as I tell people, none of us can do everything to make the country the way we want it. But we can all do one thing. And I encourage people, find something you’re passionate about, local, county, state or federal. Contribute to that. Be involved in some little bitty way. more than we are today, because if we don’t exercise our citizenship, it’s going to be taken away, and we will be dictated to by whoever takes control.
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Great point. Close us out with a couple of these quotes, if you would.
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Well, I think Thomas Paine’s, “…the greatest of tyrannies are always perpetuated in the name of the noblest causes.” To me, that is so critical because they’re telling us they’re going to help us while they’re taking our liberty away. And there’s one, and I can’t remember who said it, and I don’t have it on our notes, but one of the founders said he was willing to fight for freedom and independence then. so that his sons would not have to. And we’ve had great people like that over our history, but we need people to contribute today to make sure the country we leave for our children and grandchildren is the same independence that we have.
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The last quote that you’ve got in my notes, which is another one that I just enjoy, my only regret is I have but one life to give for my country. In other words, Nathan Hale, he believed very much in our country.
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Absolutely. He was 21 years old when he said that and went to the gallows for being a spy for Washington. He wasn’t a professional spy, but he wanted to serve and volunteered when Washington needed him and gave his life at 21. Wow. Amazing.
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Amazing. Okay, Richard, as we head down this stretch into, you know, we’ve got graduations coming up, other things that will be happening in the not-too-distant future as folks prep for that and trying to figure out what to buy, those special individuals in their life that may have that, you know, that momentous occasion coming up. How do they do that from RichardBattle.com?
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Well, we appreciate it, and the latest book is Americans Who Made America, the 18th Century Birth of the Republic. The 19th century volume will be out in June. You can go to richardbattle.com. That and all other books are signed. If you’d like them inscribed, email me, richard at richardbattle.com. We’re happy to inscribe gift copies. Everything’s at Amazon in Kindle and audio as well as printed.
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I understand that the left is a little out there at times, and I call being a liberal a mental illness, and I mean that, because their mind just works in a way that mine doesn’t. Now, maybe I’m mentally ill, and they’re not, and that’s the problem, but I don’t think so. I don’t think so. And here’s why I say this. Liberals admit to shoplifting… from Whole Foods as a way to stick it to Jeff Bezos. Charlie sent me this a day or so ago. And as I read through this, as I’m reading this, I’m thinking to myself, this mentality surely doesn’t exist. But it does. There’s people in this particular article here, this is from Fox Business News, where they interview these people, and they’re talking about how they shoplift enough in a month’s time to cut their grocery bill by $1,000 or so. And they somehow think that because of doing so, it’s like Robin Hood. They’re stealing from the rich and giving to themselves, which they consider themselves to be poor. And so they feel like because Bezos has so much money and Amazon has so much money and Whole Foods turns a profit and this, that, and the other, that they’re somehow sticking it to the man by stealing, by shoplifting. Whole Foods and Amazon, of course, had no comment on this particular story. Yeah, and I can already tell you why, because here’s their comment. We have shrinkage on an annual basis. This is me talking as I’m Whole Foods now. We have shrinkage on an annual basis, and what people don’t understand is all of that shrinkage is put back into our total cost of doing business, meaning that everybody else down the road just pays a higher price for the shrinkages that we incur each quarter, each year, et cetera. That’s the answer, by the way. That’s why I say these liberals that think that they’re really sticking it to the man. No, they’re actually sticking it to everybody else that walks in the door after them, including themselves. They think that because of this theft, they’re somehow taking it out of Jeff Bezos’s pocket or Amazon’s pocket. No, that’s not how this works. That’s not how it works. There are times, yes, where businesses will suffer a quote-unquote loss, and yes, they have to cover that loss on their own, and they will not pass that on. That’s rarity, by the way. That doesn’t happen very often. Normally, businesses will look as a whole at, okay, what did we lose on last year? And they have to make adjustments. They either have to say, okay, we are not going to provide that service any longer because we’re not making any money on that. For example, I hate to pull this in, but I might as well. Southwest Airlines, which is all over the Internet and some people love what they’re doing. Some people hate what they are doing. Most people hate what they’re doing because they’ve been so used to the way things have been that they don’t like the changes that are being made. And at the end of the day, they feel like, you know, they’re somehow going to. to benefit, I guess, by complaining, whining, moaning, whatever. But my point is, Southwest is making changes because they have to, because their current business model isn’t supporting enough profit to keep things going in the direction that they have to. So they have no choice but to make changes necessary to stay in the black. Dan and Blackhawk, you know about the black, Dan.
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I do, because I used to work retail when I was younger, and most of the markup, like, Mark it up 50%, but you’re only making a 30% margin. 33 and a third, that’s right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, 33 and a third. You mark it up 100%, you’re making 50%.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And grocery stores don’t work on, they don’t even work on a 33 and a third margin. They work on less margins than that.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. Yeah, most grocery stores, we’ve talked about this in the past, most grocery stores, their net after everything’s all handled is, I don’t know, 1.5%, 2.5% when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so you have people that are stealing from them, and they got to raise the prices in order to stay in business.
SPEAKER 11 :
And, Dan, you’re on the accounting side of things. You see what businesses do and so on. And I can tell you right now that I’ve had conversations before with, I’ve only had a couple of accountants my entire career, but I can tell you that my current accountant, if I had a particular division that was doing nothing but losing money year after year after year and he could see that, I can tell you what he would tell me. Either you have to change this to where it starts making money or stop doing it. Yeah, raise prices or go out of business. Right, or stop doing it. One of the two. Absolutely.
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Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly. So my question, Dan, is, and again, I know the rhetorical answer because I understand how the left thinks, but I just can’t believe that people are this ignorant that they think somehow this is somehow punishing Jeff Bezos himself.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s punishing everybody else.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s not punishing Jeff at all, by the way. Zilch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. They’re just sticking it to the person who’s honest, who is quote-unquote poor. That’s what gets me. They’re liberal, and they’re going to an organization that’s pretty much liberal, and they’re stealing from their own. It makes no sense. But like you said, they don’t think straight at all.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, they do not.
SPEAKER 06 :
Liberals.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, and again, that mentality of I’m going to steal and therefore somehow affect the outcome of the person that owns said business, especially when it’s a business as big as what Amazon Whole Foods is. I mean, it’d be one thing to be doing that to your local market, thinking you’re sticking it to the owners there because, yeah, there’s more of a direct effect there. But, Dan, in this case, there is absolutely zero effect.
SPEAKER 06 :
Except us, if we go to Whole Foods. Right. and buy our groceries at Whole Foods.
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Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, yeah, it just boggles my mind, like yours, that they don’t think, is what I’m thinking.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, they don’t. Well, if they were thinking through this, then they would come up to the same conclusion you and I are, but they don’t think.
SPEAKER 06 :
But they went to, if they went to a college, they went to a liberal college and were fed liberal information, and they’re not taught business, or economics, or any of that anymore. When I talk to people that went to high school and college, especially high school, economics was how to write a check. I’m like, that’s not economics. That’s personal finance.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s basics.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and they’re not teaching the macro and the microeconomics. So people don’t understand that. And they do that on purpose, or they’ve done that on purpose. Because if people don’t understand how the economy works and how macroeconomics and microeconomics work, then they can do what they want to do. So I was working with a tax client of mine, and she was complaining about she didn’t want her Medicare and Social Security taken away. And I thought to myself, is it the government’s responsibility to take care of us?
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, and that’s where we need to plan accordingly so that when we do get to retirement age, we don’t have to rely on Social Security and Medicare.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
But for somehow, the society has taught us that, well, we’ll be taken care of because of Social Security and Medicare, and then the liberals can always threaten to take it away and get what they want. I’m like, well, if you took care of yourself, you wouldn’t have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s a non-issue. It’s a bonus.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that’s, personally, that’s how I’m looking at it. If I get it someday, great. If I don’t, I’ll still be fine. Yes, I realize I’ve paid in. I understand all of that. I understand the arguments. I understand why it’s called an entitlement. Dan, I get all of that, but the way I’m personally looking at it is, and I try to train my own clients to look at it, is have enough other things in place that if you end up getting those, there’s your play money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and you, and, um, What was I going to say? We’re not… I lost my train of thought. We need to make sure that we don’t have that entitlement mentality. We need to get people away from that entitlement mentality because it’s just costing us money. Oh, that’s right. So I remember Bush wanted to turn Social Security into… A funded or similar to para where you draw interest on what you’re paying in and that got shot down. If they could get that switched over to where the money we put in would draw interest and we could draw it out. then it would work. But it doesn’t work. It’s a pay-as-you-go type of program. That’s right. Which is stupid.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, welcome. How are you today?
SPEAKER 17 :
Doing great, as always. Liberation Day.
SPEAKER 11 :
Liberation Day, I didn’t watch all of President Trump’s speech. I had to be ready for the program at 3, but I watched a good portion of what he had to say today. And he hit all of the high notes, I guess you could say, Sonny, when it comes to tariffs. And I think he did a – one of the complaints I’ve had is not communicating well enough with the American public as to why are we doing what we’re doing. And I think he did a pretty good job today of – of talking about why these things need to be adjusted. And I get it. There are so many different thoughts on tariffs. Do they work? Do they not work? Is it just a tax on the people? On and on we go. And the comment that I always have back, Sonny, is, you know, you may not like or agree with what’s going on, but something has to change. We can’t keep going down the same path that we’re on and letting some of these countries get by with what they’re getting by with. Something has to give.
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Absolutely, and I think President Trump made a really good point when he said that a lot of these countries, that they completely understand his reasoning behind this policy because they want a great deal for their country, and they’ve been riding off into the sunset taking advantage of Americans for so long. And America is the largest consumer base in the world. I mean, we are the land of consumers. And so we essentially consume all of the world’s stuff. And in order to increase manufacturing in this country so that, you know, it can Costs can still be maintained low for Americans. I think that’s really where the policy is strong because it incentivizes businesses to build factories here, which they’ve been leaving for decades.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I think, you know, one thing, too, that I don’t think gets brought in enough, and I wish President Trump would have said something along these lines today, in regards to some areas of industry, not all, but some areas of industry, it becomes a national defense issue as well. For example, car companies. And I was very critical of the fact that we allowed, back in the day, it was, you know, Dodge, Ram, Chrysler, Jeep, We allowed a foreign company to basically buy an American company. It is now no longer an American company, meaning we have two American car companies left in America versus the three. It used to always be called the big three. And as a car person myself, I looked at that and said, that’s a bad move because that does have an effect upon our national security. And for those of you listening, let me explain. When we have things needed for wartime events, building different things and so on, automakers have the ability to build other things just like we did during World War II and navigate around different things that give us the ability to make those things happen and be self-sufficient. And, Sonny, when we let some of those things go other places, our auto plants going to Canada or Mexico or wherever, the reality is we lose some of that national security capability in those things happening. And I wish President Trump would have said some of those things today.
SPEAKER 17 :
I definitely think that that’s a valid point, you know, and to some degree with the free market, how can I think and even, you know, there are strategies where we can kind of combat that type of thing, because of course, it’s hard to, you know, how can you say an American company can’t be bought by any other company. But the problem is, I think that there should be more incentives as far as perhaps, I don’t know, tax credits or different policies for Americans to stay as an American company, you know, to remain in major part owned by American shareholders, owned by American individuals and partners because I think that America does have the advantage when it comes to prosperity. I mean, as you see, we are the superpower of the country and I think that we should be respected as such. I think we’ve just been kind of living off of the fat of decades of just the innovative industries and the prosperity of our country. But at a certain point, it has started to decline, which is what has led us to this spot, which is what has made President Trump so successful and in hitting the golden age of America, bringing back those industries because the middle class is suffering. The middle class is losing those jobs. The middle class is being hit where it hurts. The inflation, all of these things that have just really decimated the middle class in our country and the industries as well. I think, just to reiterate, some policies like that would be really interesting to see, just like the tariffs are bringing in completely new companies to build their factories here. I also wanted to point out that the White House actually shared an article on their website, it’s one of their main pages where they write articles about all the things that President Trump is doing. And they actually included a link to when Janet Yellen was discussing major tariffs on Chinese imports by President Biden in his term. And that when he implemented it, I think it was MSNBC, they were asking Janet Yellen what she thought about these tariffs and if she felt that it was going to have an impact on Americans and the American consumer. And she said that, quote, I don’t believe that American consumers will see any meaningful increase in the prices that they face. So it just kind of shows you that despite, you know, the hullabaloo, like the financial boom, you know, the bastions of financial acuity and intelligence of, you know, where financial trends are going. They love to poo-poo President Trump’s ideas and come down on conservative ideas, out-of-the-box ideas, perhaps, or maybe even stronger policies like tariffs that do kind of, like Trump said, a little bit of tough love. They like to come down on that because it doesn’t sound good, but that’s actually what’s going to demand respect for our country and bring us prosperity in the long term.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, one thing I’ve talked about, too, and I have to remind people of this from time to time, is even some of the already, how should I say this, Sonny, the investments that are already being looked at and or, you know, companies already in the process of moving forward with certain projects in, And Trump mentioned some of those today. He didn’t even do some of them specifically. You know, Hyundai’s looking at $25 billion investment to build cars here in the U.S. Now, one thing that I always have to remind people of is, and this is something that most folks on the left don’t even understand, it’s not just the car plant and the workers at the plant in California. Maybe I know more about this because of what I do for a living outside of being on air, Sonny. But the ancillary things that come out of having that plant not only built, but then maintained and managed, it can drive an entire community. In fact, in some cases, an entire city off of one or two or three of those types of plants being built. Literally, those plants alone can drive an entire community. And I think it’s one of those things that, by the way, isn’t being – I know Trump talks about it. He’ll brush across it, talk about the investments being made. But I wish he’d get into more of the details along the lines of what I just said a moment ago because we don’t say that enough to get people a proper understanding.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And all they’re hearing from the punchy headlines is tariff is just another tax. But like you said, the plan is to have countries actually avoid that tariff by investing in this country. And like we’ve said, America is the land of the consumer, so they’re selling it to us anyways. In fact, if they have a factory here, it actually saves them money because they don’t have to ship their product across an ocean. So I think that I absolutely concur with your point. I do wish the president would talk about that a little bit more as well. Because, like you said, it can actually generate an entire city. And not only the jobs that it’s already creating to build these factories and the plans that these companies have been starting, but what’s to say in years, 10 years from now, what a town could look like because of this business boom.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. And again, one of the things that… Again, I guess me being a businessman and always doing that and understanding some of the ancillary things that happens when big organizations and big plants come into play. It’s one of the things that at times I get a little nervous about as well because it’s like, okay, you build this entire community around this plant, and all of a sudden the plant decides, oh, you know what? We’re going to offshore these, which, by the way, happened to us in Colorado on more than one occasion to where somebody then decides, oh, you know what? We’ll buy these guys out. We can consolidate that. And we’ll go offshore some of these things. And you know what? Then that community that was relying on 3,000 to 4,000 jobs that are now no longer existent, the reality is that’s a huge impact upon that community. So the one thing that I don’t think it’s talked about enough is all of the ancillary things to our point, Sonny, as to what happens when these things get built and then get maintained. Even though… A physical auto plant, for example, may not have as many workers in it as it used to because of robotics. The reality is those robots still need to be maintained. There still needs to be deliveries made. There still needs to be floors washed and bathrooms scrubbed, and, and, and, and, and. I mean, there’s all sorts of other things that still go on. There’s all sorts of engineering things that happen in that software and hardware and, and, and, and. I mean, I can go down the list, Sonny, of the things that still have to happen to make that plant operate. And then out of that… all of the other little businesses that may be formed around that, that also then create jobs. I mean, the multiplier effect is huge, and I wish Trump would talk about that more.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And yeah, from a report, or I’m sorry, an analysis from the Coalition for a Prosperous America, in 2024, they did a study that implementing a global tariff of 10% on all U.S. imports would grow the economy by $728 billion, create 2.8 million jobs, and increase real household incomes by 5.7%. So those are some pretty big numbers, and that’s just 10% on U.S. imports in their report. I could not agree with you more. I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are very apprehensive or, you know, even actually openly against these tariffs. And, you know, that’s totally valid. I mean, everyone’s entitled to their opinion. I think when you really look at the economics of it, it. it’s kind of the proof is in the pudding. I mean, this one seems a little bit more self explanatory because it just not only on the economic side, but in, in, in a negotiating side, when you talk about countries on a global political, uh, playing field or landscape in order to have a good deal. I mean, those countries want to make money and they want good business. Um, we need to be respected and so if we need a leader who is going to demand that respect we’re we’re not going to get get a good deal in anything if you know we don’t actually push back a little bit and say well if we’re the consumer what are what are we getting out of it yeah as a buyer what are we getting out of this the other thing that i would caution everybody out there listening by the way when it comes to who you’re watching listening or reading about when it comes to tariffs is first things first
SPEAKER 11 :
Are they a globalist? Because number one, Sonny, if they’re a globalist, they’re always going to be against terrorists. And frankly, I don’t listen to anything those guys have to say. I might read a little bit here or there just to see what their side is saying. But I don’t listen to globalists because they have a completely different agenda on what needs to happen on the global front than what I do as a nationalist. As somebody, I want to keep things here nationally. I don’t care about the globe itself per se when it comes. So first things first, are they a globalist? Have they always been? Second thing, Sonny, that I typically look at is what’s their background? Is this person only ever been a talk show host? Have they ever written a payroll check? Have they ever been in business for themselves? Have they ever ran a successful business? Because no offense, Sonny, but if you haven’t done some of those things, shut up. I’m sorry to say, but if you haven’t done some of those other things, shut up because you know nothing about how tariffs works when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And I think there is also, you know, pundits and our media, just the whole thing has conditioned people. This globalism that you speak of has conditioned the narrative to, you know, be about, oh, fairness. And, you know, well, we need to be friendly with the world because, you know, we get our chips from Taiwan and all of this stuff. And it’s like. Other places make these things. It’s not like a one-size-fits-all.
SPEAKER 11 :
The sad thing on the chip thing, Sunny, back to your whole point, we allowed these things to be offshored and for those things to be built in one part of the world that, frankly, that didn’t need to happen. We could have easily done what they’re doing there here on our soil. We just didn’t. That’s our fault.
SPEAKER 17 :
And and to your point about globalism and the globalists who, oh, yeah, it’s all about the world. You know, we want free trade. Well, they want that because they want an imbalance of control.
SPEAKER 11 :
They want a one world government, Sonny. That’s right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don’t forget, they want a one world government when it’s all said and done. So that’s why globalists don’t like what’s going on, because they don’t want to see the U.S. win.
SPEAKER 17 :
They don’t want to see us win. They would love to see us, you know. Yeah, no, absolutely. I completely agree with you. And I think also they want control in China’s hands. They want control in these countries’ hands that they can control, that the invisible hands can control.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s all connected. And I mean, even, you know, when you look at President Trump’s first term, there was billions of dollars invested. He was discussing the billions, if not trillions at this point, all combined of investments that will be made in this country in the next four years. And I think that alone is something to congratulate. I mean, even if it’s a fraction of what we hope it to be, I think that’s still a win for us. And it is also decoupling us with just the system, the system of the Federal Reserve, the inflation, all these taxes, all of those that he is implementing is decoupling us from this this globalist agenda and narrative to push us into a one-world government, and that’s why we can’t have central bank digital currencies and all of these things.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. No, you are 1,000% correct, and again, I would caution all of you listening, when you start reading different things about tariffs and so on, always look at it through the lens of who’s actually doing the writing, the talking, the commentary, and so on. The other thing that I really want, and I think they’re doing it, I wish they would do a little bit better job, and I’m always, you know, I’m always willing to call out something when I see it like it is, Sonny, and that is the current administration. I wish they would be talking about, and you said it a moment ago, some of these investments that Trump talked about in his speech, the $5 trillion of investments. Those are trillions of dollars that will not only initially be invested, but these are decades worth. Plural decades long investments that we will see the outcome of as a country for the next 20 years. I mean, no offense, Sonny. You’ll be in your middle ages by the time some of these things, even if they do start to wind down, will even wind down or level off. You’ll see the upside of that for a very long time. I’ll be dead and gone and you’ll still be seeing the benefits of. And we’re not talking about that enough.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And I just. Ultimately, I think it’s because people, you know, the left shies away from American exceptionalism. They really don’t like this country when it comes down to it. They think we’re a racist country. You know, you see all these videos, all these judges, everything that’s going on is an attempt to stop the prosperity of this country. And when you really look at it that way, it becomes a lot more obvious. And so that’s why it is so incredible to finally have a leader who can stand for the American people and demand respect, especially where it matters most, because if not, this country will go bankrupt. And especially with, you know, the cuts that are being made. And I also heard that, you know, they want to create an external revenue service, which I’m sure would go hand in hand with these tariff policies. And I think it’s a wonderful sign to come.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep, I agree. Sonny, talk about Young Americans Against Socialism. I’m sorry, I’m tied on time. We’ve got 30 seconds. Go for it.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Awesome. Sunny, I thank you very much. Have a great rest of your day.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right. One minute left of this particular hour, and it seems like I am battling the tariff thing with certain individuals on a pretty routine basis. And while I love and appreciate everybody’s opinion on this, there is, because I’ve got some of these sent to me today, another talk show host here in town. I won’t name names. who is tweeting out about some of what went on today with the terrorists and Trump and so on. Now, again, as I remind everybody, please, when you look at somebody, even a radio or television personality, and they start talking about terrorists, please look at their history. In this particular situation, this is somebody that, frankly, has never written a payroll check in their entire life. has little to no knowledge as far as I’m concerned about how business actually operates, and yet considers themselves an expert when it comes to tariffs. Yes, I just said that, and I have no problem with saying that. And this particular host, I would debate all day long on tariffs and probably squash him, even though he’s probably a smarter individual than I. But the difference is, I’ve written plenty of payroll checks over the years. And he’s written zero. And yes, to me, that matters. We’ll be back. Hour number three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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