Hour two of Rush to Reason covers everything from artificial intelligence and law enforcement to parenting, children’s rights, and the cultural battles shaping America.
Attorney and author Lance LaRusso joins John Rush to discuss how AI-generated deepfakes are creating major concerns for police departments, prosecutors, and the justice system. The conversation explores how manipulated body camera footage and edited videos can rapidly shape public opinion before investigations are complete, potentially damaging officers’ reputations and fueling unrest. LaRusso explains how law enforcement agencies are attempting to protect evidence integrity while adapting to rapidly advancing AI technology.
John also reacts to breaking news
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Welcome back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. Okay, our next guest is Lance LaRusso joining us. Lance, welcome. How are you? Thanks for having me. Doing well. I appreciate it. You are a founder of the Blue Line Lawyer Institute, author of When Cops Kill and Blue News. Talk to us about AI and how that may affect some in law enforcement. Sure.
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Well, the interesting thing is AI is obviously a tool. Correct. But what we’re seeing now with all of the deepfakes that are taking place is a concern that a lot of folks have that are representing law enforcement that somebody can control the narrative almost instantly by taking body camera or footage that has been released from across the street, surveillance or phones, and change that to make the video appear to be something it is not.
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I can understand how that would have huge implications upon perception of what happened and so on. Am I correct in that?
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Oh, absolutely. And the problem is that even five years ago, it was a little bit more difficult for someone to do this. Now you can have somebody sitting in their basement eating their mom’s meatloaf and Doritos and just decide, I’m going to mess with everybody and turn the world upside down. And the problem is, During that time frame, let’s say somebody has a video from across the street with a cell phone, in the time that it takes the police department to be gathering witnesses and trying to get information and trying to get the truth out, that narrative is now being chased rather than put out by the agency. Right.
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One thing I caution folks on in my program constantly is, you know, be careful of what you see video-wise, to your point, because, by the way, this could be anything. It’s not just the law enforcement and the things that you and I are talking about, but literally it can be almost any single thing, any single topic. And it is really, Lance, I’ll just be straight up honest, and as you know, this is the problem. It’s really hard to tell a fake, right?
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Oh, absolutely. The technology has just gotten absolutely crazy. And it gets better by the day, as you know. Yeah, it does. As I’ve heard people say, that AI is as dumb as it will ever be yesterday. Correct. And the ability of the deepfakes to keep pace with not only the technology, but what news sources people are seeking out. So I wrote a book a few years ago called Blue News, and it’s about the intersection of law enforcement and media, talking about law enforcement telling their own story so they’re not caught behind the eight ball. And unfortunately, it’s not just the officer’s career. It’s not just somebody being persecuted, doxxed, or unfairly criticized, their kids not being able to go to school because of the criticism. Some of these issues have led to some serious, serious unrest and people being injured or losing their lives. Hmm.
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That’s, I mean, all of what you just said, very, very scary. I mean, we’ve had issues in the past, as you know, just even with video that, you know, it’s not necessarily doctored, but it’s not super clear, and yet it can still sway people to think one way or the other. I mean, I can imagine as not only the law enforcement and the things go, but then you start looking at the prosecution and defense end of things as this continues to go down the road. I mean, Lance… Here’s a question I guess I have. How are you going to determine whether that video is fake or real in the first place? I mean, is it all metadata where you can go back in and look at that, or is that able to be covered up as well?
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That’s a very big part of it. I’ve represented about 191 officers in shootings. So we are dealing with a proliferation of evidence, and it’s really interesting. People complain all the time there’s not enough evidence to show what happened. Most of the time with law enforcement use of force, it’s never going to look good, even when it is perfectly performed, lawful, moral, ethical, whatever you want to say, it’s never going to look good on video. So there are some efforts to make sure that that… evidence is being protected for the most primary purpose, which is a courtroom. It’s a Sixth Amendment, a Fifth Amendment, a Seventh Amendment right to make sure that the evidence that is presented in a court is pristine and has credibility. So Axon Corporation, which a lot of people know, they make the tasers, they also make body cameras and a lot of other things. They have developed a pretty good way of encrypting the body-worn camera footage with a digital fingerprint. So if it is altered in any way, the original will be able to be retrieved, and you’ll be able to compare the differences. But we have seen situations. I had an issue in 2016 representing an officer 10 years ago. where there were videos floating around on the Internet that had been altered. Now, they weren’t altered very well or clipped, so the public didn’t get a chance to see everything that occurred. And it became an issue in that hearing. It was a six- or seven-hour hearing where we had to tell the judge, look, the source we have for this video is authentic, and we’d ask you to review that first before making a determination of really what you can believe and what you can’t.
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I mean, to me, where we’re at today with the Internet and how quickly people are exposed to things and so on is a question I have for you directly is given everything that we’re talking about, where we’re headed and so on. How are you ever going to down the road find an impartial jury?
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I think, believe it or not, juries do an amazing, amazing job of sorting through the wheat from the chaff. And as much as juries get bad raps, as much as juries, the concept can be a little strange. You know, we used to have a judge in Cobb County when I was prosecuting that had a great phrase. He said, if you are, as a juror, intimidated by this process, juries have been doing this for hundreds of years. So that’s where the jury weighs not only the evidence, but this is very, very important. The jury weighs the credibility of every witness and decides how much weight to give that testimony, whether they’re an expert, whether they’re a lay witness. And, you know, juries bring to the table a great deal of common sense. and a great deal of what people call walking around sense. And I have seen juries sort out not just pettit juries on a trial, but also grand juries. You know, they get criticized, especially like in Ferguson. Well, how could you not indict the officer who shot Michael Brown? Well, the bottom line is they looked at a tremendous amount of evidence, and they made a determination.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gotcha. Makes total sense. How do folks follow you, Lance, and also buy your book?
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So obviously they can buy the book on Amazon. You can buy everything on Amazon. That’s right. All the nonfiction books, all the profits go to law enforcement charities. So today we’ve donated a little over $40,000. They can find me at bluelinelawyer.com, and we represent officers, and we represent heroes every day. I’m just very proud of what we do.
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Well, I appreciate it very much. You’re welcome any time. Great information. I’ve enjoyed this. Thank you very much, Lance. Thanks for having me. You bet. Have a great one. And again, Lance LaRusso. Real quick, and I let him go just a tad early because there’s news coming in right now. I’ve got several of you that have texted, and I went and looked this up myself to verify. Not that I don’t believe all of you, because I do, but I just want to make sure that things were verified. Kyle Busch, the winningest driver across NASCAR’s three top series, has passed away. 41 years old. No, not from driving and wrecking a car. An accident, racing is what I’m getting at. He was hospitalized, some sort of a serious illness. I don’t know the details of that. I was trying to read and talk to Lance at the same time. That has just come out. That news literally has just come out. So our condolences go to Lance. his entire his entire family and of course richard childress racing and uh just just sad i mean not a very old individual and it does say the story is being updated as we go forward of course and it’s a it’s on a lot of news sites right now and what happened i don’t know that anybody knows the specifics of right now other than he had been hospitalized with a serious illness and has since passed away. So our thoughts and prayers go out to his family. So those of you listening and texting me, yes, all of that has been verified from what everything I can see, and there we go. So a sad day as far as that goes for all of you that are It’s just Saturday, period, but those of you that are race fans especially. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith wants to help you with your financial future. He’s got a way of doing that. He can stress test your financial plan, help you create a financial plan if you don’t have one, and then make sure that your plan works for you because they’re not all the same. Did a great interview of late. Listen in, and you can find Al at klzradio.com.
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Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yes, thank you for all of you that have texted in, have gotten multiple text messages on Kyle Busch. And yes, all of that is, again, what you guys are texting me is very real. What I have not been able to find out, and if somebody does, please let me know what his actual illness was and what he passed from. I’m not reading anything along those lines, so that one I cannot comment on. But that’s a huge loss. He’s a great racer, as all of you know. Some loved him, some didn’t. But at the end of the day, still a great racer, great competitor. And it says here – hang on, I’m getting some stuff in from my boys. It was just described – his family described – him being hospitalized with a severe illness. So there is no, right now, no official cause of death. Be careful what social media speculates over the next couple of days. There’ll be all sorts of, this is coming from the AP, by the way, there’ll be all sorts of speculation and conspiracies and so on. So Just be careful with all of that because no one knows exactly right now what he actually passed from. So if you do see some things on that, be careful. So anyways, sad day. And again, as I said a moment ago, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and Just the whole racing community. And if you’ve never been in that community, you wouldn’t understand how tight-knit it really is. And even though it may not seem like it on race day because those guys are very, very competitive, they are very tight-knit. And it’s much like any other sports that are out there where you see those guys on the football field even after the game out there shaking hands and patting each other on the back and so on. It’s very competitive as they’re playing, but afterwards, in a lot of cases, they’re all very good friends and have a lot of respect for one another, and the racing community is very much that way. Okay, some of you probably have heard about the—they’re calling it a slush fund. I don’t know if you really want to call it a slush fund, but President Trump— and they’re going to have to get this approved and everything, of course, but there’s a $1.7 billion taxpayer-funded fund to finance— Things that have gone bad in regards to attacking conservatives mainly, i.e. Donald Trump and his tax returns and things like that. And there are two police officers now that, of course, of course, filed lawsuit today or sorry, yesterday. seeking to block that from happening because, this is a quote, in the most brazen act of presidential corruption this century, President Donald Trump has created a $1.76 billion taxpayer-funded slush fund to finance insurrectionists and parliamentary groups that commit violence in his name, the officer said in their suit filed in federal court. Yeah, you know, again, you can sue over anything you want to. And these guys are… How long will that last and what will actually happen? Hard to say. I’m not an expert in this area. I don’t know what can actually happen or not happen. But I do know that there have been a lot of folks that were attacked and gone after. and had lost, monetarily speaking, a lot of money and reputation and so on because of some of these things that in previous administrations they’ve gone after, these particular individuals. And yeah, my feeling is, yeah, they should be compensated. I have no problem with that. Even as a taxpayer, I have no problem with that. Now, here’s where it’s going to get a little dicey, and this is where I didn’t get a chance to talk about this yesterday because this came out a day or two ago. But where it gets dicey is, you know, who gets what and how, you know, who’s going to be the decider of that and what’s the proof needed to prove that you had been harmed and so on. I don’t know the answers to that. Again, folks, that’s that’s above literally that’s above my pay grade. I don’t know. It’ll be interesting to see how that all shakes out. And again, now that there’s a court case over it, you know, who knows how that actually will work. Now, in other stories, and this one is interesting, the DNC. So the, you know, Democrat National Committee, much like the RNC Republicans, but this is the DNC. They released a report. I think it’s today. Critical of the 2024 campaign failures, which for them to admit anything went wrong, I’m shocked at. It’s an incomplete and critically annotated report detailing the party’s mistakes in the 2024 presidential election, reversing course on plans to bury that document after pressure from activists and elected officials failed. To share it, management of the party autopsy has been an embarrassment for the DNC chair, Ken Martin, who pledged a full review and public report when he was elected in February of 2025. He reversed his position, however, in late 2025 and said releasing the document would be a distraction ahead of this year’s midterms. The 192-page document highlights issues specific to the 2024 cycle, both presidential and down ballot, as well as other structural party challenges. Its release was reported earlier by CNN. The document includes a disclaimer that says it reflects the views of the author, not the DNC. The note says that the DNC wasn’t provided with the underlying sources, interviews, or supporting data for many of the assertions. So, I have not read the report, by the way. Don’t know exactly what it says. A source familiar with the process faulted the methodology for which it was viewed as an incomplete report by Paul Rivera. an informal senior advisor to the DNC. So there’s people out there right now already criticizing this particular document, saying there’s lots of misinformation, disinformation, and so on. Now, again, I’ve not read it. I don’t know exactly what it says. I didn’t even read the cliff notes on this yet. I haven’t gotten that far. But I’m very interested in reading this to determine what they actually come out and say they did wrong in that whole election cycle. I can pretty much tell you what they did wrong. It’ll be interesting to see what they actually say they did wrong. They did some of the same things, by the way, that we do. Ran the wrong candidate, made a lot of assumptions, thought that they were going to win when they weren’t. They based a lot of things off of emotions versus facts. Again, I don’t know what the report says. I’m just telling you what I can see from the outside that they did wrong. That’s my point. And again, I don’t know all of the ins and outs to it. I don’t know exactly what was said. But we also know that one of the other things that I think happened to them that I think may – I haven’t talked about this much, but it may affect them even this particular cycle – is the fact that a lot of people gave to Kamala Harris. And there was very, very poor accounting as to where all of those political donations went. And there was a lot of money spent on singers and parties and things like that. And I got to believe as a donor, that’s not particularly what you’re fond of. You want to see your money actually go to work for you and produce results. And when all it’s doing is producing endorsements by paid singers, which is really what happened, correct, Charlie? That’s really what happened in a lot of cases. A lot of those singers that showed up and so on, they were paid handsome sums of money, by the way, to do so, and then endorsed Kamala for president. Well, that’s not really an endorsement. That’s payola. That’s a buying an endorsement. That, by the way, sorry to get off track here, but that’s what happens on a lot of other radio stations that are out there. A lot of the endorsements and things you hear from the host, it’s because they’re paid to say so. They may not even use the product themselves, may not even care to use the product themselves, but they’re going to talk to you about how great the product is because they’ve been paid to do so. By the way, I’ve said this many times, but we don’t do that here. We’re, A, not allowed to, and I wouldn’t do it anyways. Period. That’s not my DNA. I can’t do that. I’m not going to just say something is good because somebody’s paying me to say it’s good. Either it is or it isn’t. Case in point, look at the car reviews we do and some of the things we talk about in them, and if there’s something that we don’t particularly care for, we’ll say so. If there is, then great. There’s no payola coming there. We get a vehicle, we drive it, we give you a report, end of discussion. Well, in the case of these particular singers that Kamala had at a lot of her events, that’s not how that worked. They were paid millions of dollars, in some cases tens of millions of dollars, to show up and do said quote-unquote concert. And again, we all remember how that went a couple of years ago. And again, was that one of the mistakes that the Democrat Party made? I believe it is, yes. Yes. I don’t know who was watching what was going on at that time, but whoever was wasn’t doing a very good job, in my opinion. Again, I will I will take a peek at this report. I’m sure Andy will as well. I have not had a chance to actually do so. I will kind of determine, you know, what’s what’s being said in it. What are they admitting? They made mistakes on and so on. This is just a quick article that I pulled out of The Wall Street Journal. I do not have a synopsis on the actual. report i guess i should say and again there’s some out there that are criticizing this report saying it’s you know it’s not complete it’s got misinformation disinformation uh things like that um it’s funny there are people out there asking for this thing to be put out and others asking for it not to be put out and i think mainly because it’s going to show where the where the democrats the dnc stubbed their toe that’s just my own thought process so Let’s do this. We’ll take a quick break. Michael Bailey is coming up next. He is our mobile estate planner. He is mobile because he comes to you. That’s why we call him the mobile estate planner. Talk to Michael Bailey today. 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Hey, I’m great. Thanks for having me.
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I appreciate it greatly. Okay, first of all, talk to us about Them Before Us. What do you guys do? And I know it’s about kids, so let’s get going.
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It’s a global nonprofit that defends children’s rights in the family. We’ve got, thankfully, hundreds of organizations defending children’s right to life. We need every single one of them. We are the only organization defending children’s rights on this side of the womb. The relationship they have with their two natural parents that statistically grants them the safest household they’re going to grow up in, that gifts them their biological identity and maximizes their development. It is the key to child flourishing. So if it touches marriage and family, divorce, reproductive technologies, gay marriage, modern families, adoption, we will center the child in that conversation.
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Okay, makes total sense to me. I’ve got in here, too, my note, which I love. What if every state law was judged by one simple question? Does it protect children or sacrifice them to adult desires? By the way, that’s a great question.
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That is the one that we ask with every single issue that comes up, whether in the news feed, in the culture, in technological developments, with Supreme Court rulings. That is the question we’re asking. The nature of children does not change. They come from a man and woman. That man and woman are statistically the safest, most connected to, most invested in, and most protective of them. We will either build laws… that respect the rights and natural realities of the child or we will ignore those natural realities and children will be victimized. So those are the choices before us. We are here to say children have rights and adults need to sacrifice so children don’t have to.
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Yeah, you know what? And I agree. And now, not to get off on my own tangent, but I tend to. It’s what I do as a host sometimes. All of this, and I’m sure you’re very aware of this, but all of this and really this fight against kids and or the fight to take these kids away from their parents in a lot of ways and even confuse them. And that’s where the transgenderism thing comes into play and so on. Katie, at its core, that’s Marxism. That’s exactly what it does.
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Well, you cannot have a strong centralized government if you have strong, stable families. That’s right. You have to destabilize the smallest unit of society if you’re going to create some kind of meta state government unit of the family. So the destruction of the bonds between parent and child. has always been a factor in every major communist or socialist regime around the world.
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That’s exactly right, yeah. To your point, the only way they can become the quote-unquote mother and father is to destroy that mother and father in the home in the first place, and then they can step in and take over.
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Yeah, children are going to be… People are vulnerable at both poles of their lives, the very early and the very late stages. They will rely on somebody. Who are they going to rely on? Nature and nature’s God says that the people they should rely on is the two people from whom they come. Those two people happen to be the ones that are most likely to protect them. They have the greatest long-term interest in those kids. They will maximize their development. They will ground their identity in something transcendent, not just their racial characteristics or their sexual or gender feelings. There is something critical about anchoring children to the two people from whom they come that actually is one of the greatest rejections of state overreach and state power.
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And as I am older and know this for a fact, because I was raised exactly the way that you’re talking by some great parents who since passed have been a long go here over the last couple of years. My dad finally passed away from Alzheimer’s and dementia last October. My point, Katie, is because of the way we were raised and the fact that our folks raised us very well, my brother has since passed, but my sister and I, and other family members, of course, wives and so on, but we are very, very… involved in those late stages of both of my folks’ life, my dad especially, with his memory care and so on. So to your point, we were best equipped to make sure he’s being taken care of, not the state.
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Yeah. So it is very easy to victimize vulnerable people. We definitely see that with the variety of abuses against the elderly taking place. But you see it so clearly with children. You see it so obviously that we are victimizing them at every level that they can be because they can’t fight back. They can’t lobby. They don’t hire lawyers. They can’t run for office. They don’t blog. They do not give interviews on radio shows. So we have to do that for them. The very, very vulnerable need us to recognize their fundamental rights and go to bat for them because they’re incapable of defending themselves.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not only incapable, Katie, but they’re so impressionable at that age. It’s where this whole transgender movement is such an absolute evil that’s been forced upon not only here in America but worldwide. It’s absolutely ridiculous that we even have to have a conversation. You know, I started on air once. On my daily program, oh, about 12 years ago, Katie, and none of this really did we talk about much at that time. Now I’m doing this type of a segment two to three times a week because of what’s going on in our world. And it’s just it’s sick and twisted that we actually have to do this now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, unfortunately, what you see, especially with the transgender craze, the transgender phenomenon, is absolutely the co-opting of children’s minds and bodies to serve adult desires.
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That’s right.
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Especially when you have children transitioning, quote-unquote transitioning, under the age of 12. Children don’t transition under the age of 12 without somebody imposing that identity on them. That’s right. Sometimes it’s their own parents, honestly, who are looking for some way out of the oppressive category of white parents straight. They can’t identify into a new racial group, but boy, if they have a transgender child, wow, that gets them out of the oppressor class.
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And it’s Vogue, Katie. I want to add that to it, too. I think for a lot of people, they think, oh, that’s just Vogue. That’s the in thing. I mean, you’ve seen some of the Hollywood stars talk about how Their kids are all transgender and they’re proud of it. I mean, number one, these are sick and twisted parents to even think for one second that’s good for your child. But there’s a lot of folks out there, Katie, where I’m convinced this is just sort of a style thing. It’s like having the latest and greatest purse.
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It’s a virtue badge, right? You can hang that on yourself, and you can say, look how virtuous I am because I have this gender non-conforming child. It absolutely fits into that rubric that we often use to judge any cultural, technological, or legal phenomenon in the world, and that is who’s doing the hard thing. Are adults doing the hard thing for kids, or are children doing hard things for adults? And when you have a child that’s transitioning at the age of eight, so that you can virtue signal to all your friends that you have a gender non-conforming kid. You’re forcing the child to do hard things to increase your perceived social standing. It’s absolutely a victimization of children.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it’s sick and twisted. It’s ridiculous. To your point, we’ve got to stand up for these kids. We do on this program constantly. I know you do as an organization. We’ll continue to have you on. This is a big deal. I mean, for me personally, Katie, it’s a big deal. I raised seven kids, and fortunately, they’re all doing well today. I don’t know how because I wasn’t the best parent out there by any stretch of the imagination, but I did the very best I could. And at the end of the day, to me, kids matter because they are our future.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, they matter because they’re made in the image of God. We are charged with protecting the vulnerable. We are told that there are grave punishments set up by God himself if we are to cause one of these little ones to stumble. Woe to those who do it to their own children, but woe to a nation and a church that sits by passively while children are victimized in the name of some kind of progressive ideological goalposts. that says that we need to harm their minds, their bodies, their families, so that we can aim towards some kind of socialist utopia. Woe to us if we do not stand up against it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fully agree. Talk to us about your organization. How do folks find you? How do they help? And so on, Katie.
SPEAKER 09 :
You can go to thembeforeus.com, subscribe to our newsletter. We are the tip of the spear on all different major issues, reproductive technologies, how reproductive technologies are commodifying children. We are spearheading a national coalition to overturn gay marriage. You can go to greaterthancampaign.com and take a look at all the different national and state-level partners that we have. Gay marriage is directly responsible for making children motherless and fatherless. And for the last 11 years, nobody’s done anything about it. So we and a lot of other incredible national partners are stepping into that gap. We need your help. ThemBeforeUs.com. Go subscribe to our newsletter. Donate to this cause. Children need champions. And on these issues, nobody has stepped up to do it. So we and our coalition are going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
What advice would you give to folks that are out there where, you know, maybe they’re not parents any longer, they’re grandparents like myself, but maybe they still have influence inside of their own, you know, whether it be church or school or whatever. What are some things that you would give them, you know, advice-wise on, A, how to observe these things and be aware of what’s going on, and then how to get involved after that?
SPEAKER 09 :
You need to become an expert. It is very important that you know more about these things…
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, we lost Katie. I’m sorry. Charlie, let’s see if we can – let’s do this. I’d like to talk to her more about that. Let’s see if we can’t get her back. We’ll take a quick break and see if you can get her back, and we’ll finish that up. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning, by the way, is coming up next. And whatever you need when it comes to your HVAC, give Cub Creek a call today. Find them at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we are back and we got Katie back on the line with us. Katie Faust, again, founder and president of Them Before Us. Katie, before we got caught off, I asked you the question as to how do, you know, whether it’s grandparents, parents, or maybe folks that are just concerned, they’re in, you know, the community, they want to be involved. I’ve got several text messages that have come in on this particular topic where people get fired up over this. How do they get involved and know what to do?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you have to become an expert. I mean, the truth is that this is an era where, unfortunately, we need to step into a lot of places that responsible people, Christians, haven’t really had to think about or answer before. But this is the space where children need somebody to be their champion, to step up for them. Questions about IVF. Why is it that we need to critique IVF? Well, it’s because it kills four times the number of little lives every year than abortion does. Why is it that we need to be opposed to surrogacy? Well, because it always severs the bond between mother and child, usually for commercial purposes, and sends them home with unvetted adults who often take them across. It’s child trafficking under the name of family building. Why is it that we need to oppose gay marriage? Well, because it rewrites all of parenthood laws to make mothers and fathers optional in the life of children and is a massive state power grab over who is and is not gay. deemed to be apparent i know that these are questions that christians in the past have not had to figure out or answer but they are the questions that christians today must absolutely own and dominate not just for the sake of advocating with you know their their lawmakers and encouraging like good policy but because you’re going to be in conversations with your friends who are considering an easy no-fault divorce and you need to be able to say hey if you do that your kids have a 35 to 55 percent more likely chance of dying an early death You just have to know these kinds of things about children’s rights in the family because their lives and their thriving are at stake. And there’s not a lot of people that are willing to step into the gap for kids on these kinds of topics.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fully agree. And again, that’s where you guys come into play. I know we talked before we went to our break. Then before us, give us the website one more time if folks want to get involved.
SPEAKER 09 :
BEMBeforeUs.com is the place where you’re going to be able to see our fast facts about IVF and divorce and gay marriage and adoption. You’re going to be able to look at our resources. We just came out with a national scorecard where you can click on your state and see what’s happening in your state as it relates to parentage laws and reproductive technologies. BEMBeforeUs.com. Go subscribe. Join our newsletter. Let me equip you to defend kids.
SPEAKER 07 :
Awesome. Katie, again, I want to make sure that we finished up with you. So thank you for hanging tight through the break. I appreciate that greatly. And we’ll have you back on. I appreciate it greatly. Keep up the great work and we’ll do what we can to support you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, thank you so much. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re very welcome, Katie. I appreciate it. And she was kind of a last-minute guest, and I appreciate her greatly. I’ve got a Marxist, by the way, texting in saying that we’re completely wrong, that Marxism has nothing to do with sociological issues. It is simply an economic theory, and you couldn’t be more wrong, whoever this is texting. You could not be more wrong. You can go back through history and look at what Marxism does on the on the human sides of things, not the financial side, but the human sides of things and what they do psychologically, how they manipulate and control the populace, what they do to the nucleus core family like we just talked about with Katie. I mean, I I would hope I would hope that you’re not that brainwashed to actually believe that Marxism is only something that is for economics. You can’t be that stupid. I’m sorry, I don’t know how else to say this. You cannot be that stupid. Please tell me that you’re not. I mean, there isn’t hardly a person out there that would agree with you on this, including other Marxists. A true Marxist knows exactly what they need to do to implement their particular theory of life. which, by the way, is government controls everything. God doesn’t exist. Government becomes God. You no longer need the core family because we’re there. The government’s there to take care of everything. And I can go down the list. So how in the world you can only say that Marxism is simply economics? You’re a fool. You’re a fool. God rest your soul. I have nothing else to say to you. Those are the kind of individuals, folks, that absolutely fire me up because of how ignorant they really are. They’re that brainwashed to believe something along those lines when I guarantee you their fellow Marxists, Mamdami, for example, in New York, the mayor, he doesn’t believe that. He doesn’t look at it strictly as just an economical thing whatsoever. Look at what he’s doing to the city that he’s in charge of. Oh, my God, people. Literally, you’re not that dumb. Folks, I will just say this. The text line never ceases to amaze me. It never ceases to amaze me. Not from those of you that are great, that text in and even give me great articles and different things and even some of the funny stories and so on. And even the Kyle Busch thing that came out earlier that came in on the text line, which I appreciate greatly. But there are times where there are absolute complete knuckleheads that text in. And I don’t know whether they’re just liberal bots or if these are actually real people, because in some cases, like this text message that came in just a few minutes ago, you can’t possibly believe your own words. You’re not that dumb. You just can’t be that dumb. And I don’t care what the textbook of Marxism says. I’m telling you in real world what happens inside of Marxism and communism. And by the way, if you don’t believe me, go to China. In fact, I’ll buy you a one-way ticket and you just go live there. Tell me how it is. Tell me how much you like it when it’s all said and done. Where they’re literally right now shoving the church underground. They’re killing individuals that don’t believe the way they believe. And I can go down the list. Again, you cannot possibly believe your own words. I’m getting other text messages in. I can’t read and talk at the same time, so I apologize. I’ll have to look at that through the break. But again, folks, trust me. These people that say those sorts of things, that actually text those sorts of things in, believe me, they don’t believe that. They know better. They do that to rile me up and other hosts like myself, and that’s what they do because they know in their heart that’s not how Marxism is and how it works. It is very much about the sociology of a, in this case, nation, and what they can do to change the perception of things, i.e., I’m in the wrong body. I need to transition into the other gender. Folks, that is at the core of Marxism. Confuse society so that we can now take over. Again, I’m paraphrasing. That’s not an actual document from Marxism, but that’s what they believe in. Trust me, that’s what they believe in. And no, I’m not just saying that to say that that’s how it works. That’s how they take over. That’s how they become in charge and stay in charge. And if you don’t believe me, you can go to Cuba as well. I mean, there’s all sorts of places around the world you can go to and tell me how it works out for you. It typically doesn’t end well. And again, I’m convinced that these particular individuals that are texting this in, they don’t believe themselves. They just like to rile up folks like myself. By the way, another one of the Marxist movements or part of the Marxist movement is the whole nonsense about climate change, which now scientists say that the worst case climate scenario is implausible. That news came out yesterday, by the way, meaning that this is a U.N. panel that came out on this, by the way, basically said, yeah, it’s not quite as bad as we said. You know, the impending doom, yeah, probably not going to happen, which, by the way, folks like myself have been saying now for a long time. And it’s funny how the climate experts, quote unquote, are always moving the goalposts. It’s a continual moving of the goalposts. Oh, you know, we had a tenth of a degree raise in temperatures, or we had a half a degree raise in temperatures, and we predict there will be a five degree raise in temperatures. And by the way, that doesn’t happen. And we’ve had many a guest on this program talking about how even if it did raise five degrees, that’s a good thing when it’s all said and done, because it actually creates more food and things for humans that we can live off of. So at the end of the day, it’s a great thing. Anyways, the impending doom, according to this particular study, is not coming right around the corner. So that’s actually, I don’t know if it’s good news, by the way, but President Trump basically said good riddance. And again, you know where he comes in on this. And no, he or I are not climate deniers. We know there’s shifts in climate all over the place. We see them here in Colorado. I’ve lived here my entire life. And yes, I’ve seen those shifts. Is it doom and gloom? Of course not. I mean, we had a dry winter this last winter. Things have kind of picked up towards this end of spring as we head into summer now. El Nino is going to start. And when it’s all said and done, we may end up having a very bad winter versus what we just had. So count your blessings on a dry winter for some of you that like that. Again, do things cycle? Yes, they do. They do not stay the same. That’s what weather and climate does. We’ll be back here in a moment. Let me do this. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Make sure that you’re dialed in, by the way, with your roof because it is what keeps you safe and dry. And not only safe and dry, but actually protects other things going on in your house. Make sure your roof is in top working order. Dave Hart can help you with that. Roof Savers of Colorado, 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we are back, finishing out this second hour. Brent Littleton, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, hi, this is Brent.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Brent, how are you, sir?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good. If you remember me, I’m the one with the Ford Fusion that we’ve been dealing with for over a year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
My God, it’s finally worked.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good job.
SPEAKER 05 :
It finally works. It’s alive.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good job.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I thank you very much for helping me with that. The last two things that ended up being the major components were there’s a PVC plastic valve thing that they have that’s actually behind the cold air intake. And so when I went to go take that all back off again… the cold air intake first of all the screws were loose in it so somebody must have done something beforehand okay so there was would never ever be able to pressurize because there it just goes to nothing correct so that was part of it then i also you know that that pvc was plugged up and so i took that out and put it back together it acted much better but i I started hearing a high whistle and come to find out I had switched by accident the solenoid that controls the wastegate on it also. So that was the final piece of it. I got one more thing to kind of do, and that is I can’t get the bubble out of the heater core. I have a vacuum assist kit, but it’s not quite working. So the last thing I’m going to do is put a T-connection right on top of the heater core, basically, and I’m going to make it higher level and try to force fluid through it, which is what I’ve heard you can do. So that’s my final thing. But, yeah, she gets up and goes better than I ever had it originally.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s awesome. I’m glad to hear. I’m glad that worked out, Brent.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Thank you again. You’re very welcome.
SPEAKER 07 :
I appreciate it. For those of you listening, you’re thinking, wait a minute, that’s not really on topic. No, that’s a Drive Radio individual listener that I’ve been helping now, as you could tell, for about last year, trying to get his vehicle in order and all of that. And for those of you listening, thinking, huh? Car stuff? Yeah. For those of you that don’t know, we do drive radio every Saturday from 10 to 1. I do another program with two other programs basically on Saturday, Fix It Radio, which is an around-the-house program from 9 to 10, and then we do drive radio the extra mile where I take a topic, kind of do a deep dive into that, and I prerecord that, and we play that between 3 and 4 p.m. on Saturdays as well. And if you miss any of that, drive radio especially, you can re-listen on Sunday. We do a replay show on Sunday from noon to 3 where if you miss something on Saturday, you can hear it Sunday. My point is this. If any of you are listening that are driving and you have any issues, you want to know where to get your car fixed or get this done or get that done, you have this kind of a problem or noise or you want to know what kind of oil to use or how often to change it or, or, or, or, or. I can go down the list. We cover all of those things, plus a lot more on Drive Radio on Saturdays. We have a lot of fun doing it. I always have a fun question of the day that folks call in on. I try to do some things that kind of take us down the road. memory lane at times and we have a ball doing drive radio it’s one of the funnest three hours of my week not that I don’t have fun here I do folks I really do but drive radio I’ve done now for almost 30 years it’s how I got started in radio it’s a blast we have great listenership folks that listen from all over the country and I’m not exaggerating when I say that and we get people to call in all the time on different car questions and so on and and I’ll just say it this way I think we have one of the top shows when it comes to the automotive industry and people calling in and getting help and questions and the information that we give out. I think we have one of the best shows in the entire country, and I’ve heard people that travel around tell us that. So if you’ve never heard Drive Radio, tune in. I will not be live this coming Saturday, but you can listen to a replay show Saturday. I’ll be back next Saturday, but you can listen in. Again, 10 to 1 every single Saturday right here on KLZ Radio. And Brent, again, thank you for calling in and giving us an update. Guys, that’s it for Hour 2. We’ll be right back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 5 We’ll be right back.
SPEAKER 1 :
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