HR2 Bret Boyd: Drone Warfare, Oil Regulations, Trump and Trade Deals with the UK 5-7-25 by John Rush
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All right. Welcome back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Brett Boyd joining us now. Brett, welcome. How are you?
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John, how are you?
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I’m doing very well. You are a co-author of the book Catalyst Leadership and Strategy in a Changing World. And our main focus today, Brett’s going to be talking about just some of the tariffs and things that are going on and, you know, Trump trying to move some things back on shore. And it’s one of those topics I’ve talked about really a lot here of late, especially. But one of those things that I I’m a small business owner. I talk about those things on a pretty routine basis. And I guess I just want to get an update from you. Where are we at with all of that, and are we going to succeed in bringing some of these things back home?
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Look, I appreciate you asking the question, John, and the perspective I bring here. So I’m the co-founder and CEO of a company called Sustainment. And we work with tens of thousands of American manufacturers. We build software to make it easier for companies to find and get work done with U.S. manufacturers. So we spend all day talking to supply chain teams of companies who are trying to onshore manufacturing and also manufacturing suppliers who are benefiting from this. And there is definitely a lot of action going on. So a lot of onshoring, a lot of new customer conversations are happening in manufacturing today.
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Okay, so before we move on, I just want to throw this at you because you hear from media, and I don’t listen to a lot of news media. I’m one of those where I do this show, I do very little watching of television, listening to other hosts. I don’t watch podcasts. I mean, I’ll pick up a few things here or there and tidbits, and I do my own research for my show on a daily basis, Brett, but I don’t listen to a lot of media in general. But You get a feeling, and I do see some of the things that are publicized on a routine basis. And, man alive, if I didn’t know any better, Brett, we’ve lost the war in this area. The reality is we can’t make anything in America any longer. If we don’t have offshore support, the reality is we’re dead. Is that true?
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I think that is 100% true. And I think people miss the narrative when they get caught up in what percentage of tariffs on this country versus that country. At the end of the day, when you step back, we have lost the ability to build ships, drones, pharmaceuticals, you name it. There are a lot of different categories which we have lost the ability to build as a country, and we simply need to ensure our economic prosperity and our national security, candidly.
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Okay. You and I are on the the same boat. And by the way, I think a lot of that, in my opinion, was done by design. I think there were some individuals, plural, I don’t think it was any one person, but I think we had an entire movement that started to happen. Oh gosh, Brett, I’m 60 years of age. When I was even in My teen years, you could start seeing some of these things start to develop and happen. And then we entered into the 90s and 2000s. It really ramped up. And the reality is things just started getting shoved off into other areas. And frankly, it was to our demise.
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Absolutely. It’s also worth saying, I mean, this whole issue for me revolves around China. Like China has done a very good job. They have been very thoughtful and very patient in investing in these strategic essentially sucking up all of the manufacturing around the world into these industries. And they’ve done it very deliberately and very proactively. And this is the reality that we face now. And so we can argue if those policies that existed in the 90s and even earlier, maybe the full free trade policies made sense then, but they certainly do not make sense now, in which we live in a very competitive world with a very capable competitor, at least in manufacturing.
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Okay, so how do we start bringing some of this stuff back? I’ve got my own thoughts along those lines. Again, I’ve talked about some of those things, especially recently in light of everything going on, but how do we bring some of these things back to our soil?
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So I think it’s actually worth looking at how we got to where we are today. And the answer to your question, I think, is baked in here. But essentially what China, so take China and let’s talk about drones, for example. Okay. There is a drone, a Chinese drone company called DJI. DJI. It has a massive global market share in these small, attributable drones. That’s right. And the reason that that’s the case is that the Chinese government has put state capital into DJI for years. And that has allowed that company to sell drones around the world at really, really cheap prices. So if you’re an American consumer, and in some cases these are law enforcement groups and actually government groups, and you’re comparing drones, you could spend 25% the cost and buy a Chinese drone. So you end up doing that. The American companies that were building drones weren’t able to compete with a company that was subsidized by the Chinese government. So they go out of business and then all of the economies of scale accrue to DJI in China and they get better and better and are able to do manufacturing cheaper and cheaper. Like this has been happening for decades. And this is what these policies need to address and need to attempt to allow American companies to compete fairly in global markets.
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And by the way, that’s a great example. And most people understand, I think, what you just said. They understand the brand name. I want to throw one other thing in there, or at least ask a question along those lines, too. It’s not only could folks buy a DJI drone that was less money than a lot of the competitors. Again, correct me if I’m wrong, Brett, but these particular drones, DJI, were also more advanced in a lot of cases than some of the other drones. So not only were you saving money, you were getting a better product at the end of the day. Am I wrong in that, or am I right?
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No, you’re right. You’re right. And this is a function really of the economies of scale. I mean, manufacturing is a scale business. And when you have an environment like that, where you have more and more business going into one manufacturer, that allows them to be cheaper, to be better, and really to… build at these enormous quantities that are remarkable. I mean, the BYD, the electric car factory in China, is as big as the city of San Francisco, which is crazy to think about.
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No, you’re right. You’re right. And again, I’m actually a car guy by nature. That’s my background. So when you just said that, that’s right up my alley, and you are correct. And they have done some things with their vehicles that, quite frankly, and for everybody else listening, if you haven’t looked at that, yeah, they are doing things in the EV world, Brett, that most other competitors, Tesla included, just don’t have the ability to do. Now, I also know that they have an unfair advantage because the Chinese government, it’s a communist country, they are willing to invest money into things that, quite frankly, our model here, and I’m fine with our model, I don’t want us doing that, but the reality is it’s not a fair playing field.
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I agree with that. And I agree with your statement as well, is that we do not want to adopt the Chinese model. And I’m not arguing that at all. I think that the heart of American innovation is in our entrepreneurs, our small businesses. That’s the talent pool that we really want to unleash and unlock. But I do think it’s important for people to know exactly what we’re up against, because this is a significant challenge that is going to take a long time to counter.
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It is, especially, and this is something I’ve mentioned even, actually, I’ve mentioned it almost every day this week, Brett. It’s Thursday now, and this will probably be the fourth time this week I’ve mentioned it, but I’m going to say it again. One of the ways, and I’m a states’ rights guy as well, so not only do I not believe in the Chinese model, I also don’t believe in the feds coming in and telling states what to do. I’m a states’ rights guy. With that being said, though, Brett, I also know that sometimes states and even local communities can get so hung up on everything from zoning and how that’s going to work. And then you add on top of that all the different community meetings that have to have before even a business builds a building. I’m not talking about a factory. I’m just talking about building a retail building you don’t want to put your business in. And then on top of that, we layer in all of the environmental and traffic and wildlife, and, and, and, and, and. You layer all these studies in, and if I as an owner want to go put a building up to go put my business in, Brett, I may not even be able to put a shovel in the ground for at least three years. We’ve got to speed that up some way, somehow.
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These are all parts of the Gordian knot that need to be untangled here. And I think tariffs are one tool of industrial policy. There are other tools related to how we work internationally and how we support American countries instead of international countries. To your point, that needs to be combined with all of these regulatory reforms to really unleash the power of the American entrepreneur. That really is how we need to compete. We need to compete by letting our people run and letting them actually be competitive in these global markets, understanding that the world is very difficult and it is a competitive place out there.
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And I am one that, yes, I want things to be done correctly. I don’t just want a hodgepodge. Yes, I do think zoning, if done correctly, can help and can help a city thrive and so on. So I’m not saying, Brett, that we by no means should take all of that away. But I also know enough about how that machine works that it becomes a huge albatross, literally. It is literally, in a lot of cases, designed to slow down things and to really, in a lot of ways, if you and I were teamed up and we had come together and we wanted to put a development in and so on, in a lot of ways, a lot of these municipalities get together and figure out ways to discourage you and I from even making that happen. And I’m one that says we need to figure out a way to turn the tide and make that the opposite. Oh, amen.
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And John, here’s an area where we spend a lot of time. So we build software for… Department of Defense teams as well to help them more easily access new manufacturers and bring more manufacturers into the defense industrial base, et cetera, et cetera. But that’s an area that we drastically need reform. In order to be a new manufacturer for the Department of Defense, the amount of paperwork and the time that you have to spend is staggering. It’s years and years of investment in all of these old regulations that were invented before the internet. They’re hard to understand. There is a lot of work that needs to be done to allow that process to be normal. And to your point, there still should be qualification. There still should be process and so on. But all of these bureaucracies have just kind of grown to consume themselves. And it’s a significant problem for the country.
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It really is. And for those of you listening, I mean, it’s a significant problem. And a lot of you say, well, you know, that’s the case for, you know, blue states. It’s easier in red states. Brett, sometimes, sometimes not. Again, a lot of this comes down to even the local area, the local county, if you would, and who’s actually running that. Because the reality is, it really isn’t always a red state, blue state scenario. It does come down to exactly that particular area and where, in this particular case, this contractor may want to build. And I will say this, I do think that because of what I’m saying, some contractors, counties will look at this and say, man, we’ve got some real opportunity. We could bring some real solid jobs in if we loosen up some of the strings that are out there. Let’s figure out a way to make this happen faster.
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That’s how we think about manufacturing. I mean, we think that the way that manufacturing is going to come back is we’re going to put policies in place that that drive more business into US small and medium-sized manufacturers, such as tariffs. That will allow those businesses to invest in new equipment, to hire people at great wages, and to kind of tip this whole generational shift that has gone towards knowledge and information work and away from building and physical work in the trades. And we think that by driving economic activity into these businesses and again, our software is designed to make it easier to find and actually get work done with these businesses. But by doing that, this creates the virtuous cycle of more opportunity, more jobs, more capacity in the country. And we really think that that’s what it’s going to take to turn the tide.
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Can’t disagree with you. As you can tell, we’re on the same team. How do folks find you find the book and so on?
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As I mentioned, our company is called Sustainment. Our website is sustainment.com. And, yeah, please check us out. If you’re a manufacturing supplier, we’re free software for suppliers to be discovered by new customers, and we sell software into supply chain teams at larger companies who are trying to figure out how to onshore more efficiently. Awesome. Appreciate that.
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No, I appreciate you joining us. As you can tell, we’re on the same team, speak the same language, and I appreciate what you’re doing very much. Okay, me too. Thank you, John. Brett, have a great night. Appreciate it very much again. Brett Boyd, B-O-Y-D. The book is Catalyst, Leadership and Strategy in a Changing World. Up next is Al Smith. He did a great interview the other day, and you’ll be hearing more of these from Al. On Al, I should say, as to how you can benefit, financially speaking, in retirement. Here is Al.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I’m doing great. How are you, TJ? I’m doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you.
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As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes? No, I don’t prepare my clients’ taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it’s working.
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And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
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Well, with so many different taxes we’re faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It’s not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there’s property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won’t they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Well, it depends. Everybody’s situation’s a little bit different. There’s no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we’ll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they’ll be paying on their Social Security.
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Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
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Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
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Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
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You can reach me through KLZ or contact my office at 303-744-1128. And when you call, I’ll provide you with a summary of all the tax changes for 2025.
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You heard it here, folks. Good things from Golden Eagle Financial and Al Smith. Again, you can reach them at 303-744-1128 or just find them on the advertisers page at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. And one thing that I don’t think I’ve ever spent much time explaining some of what I was even talking about a moment ago with our last guest, Brett. And regarding you are a business, you’re a manufacturer. And by the way, this… There is a little bit of a scale to this. And what I mean by that, if you’re a large manufacturer and you’re going to build a large building, you may get a little bit more leeway on things than, say, somebody wanting to build a 10,000 square foot building. you know, building that’s going to house your business. And maybe it’s a business that you’ve got a little bit of retail, but you do some warehousing at the same time, or you’re going to put up an auto shop or whatever the case may be. So let’s just use a, you know, 10,000 square foot versus 100,000 square foot building. We’ll use those as a comparison because I don’t think most people out there and maybe even some of you listening, some of you have a lot of experience like I do with this, and you know exactly how that process works. But some of you out there listening, you may not have any idea as to how these things actually work and what the process is. So let me do this as quickly as I can. This may be something that I might have to do a couple of segments on, and I’m not going to bore you because there’s a lot of ins and outs of this, but I don’t think the average person really has any idea how much… goes into actually putting up a building when it’s all said and done. I’m not talking about a development where you’re putting in a bunch of houses and things like that. That’s a whole other level that I can get into that I know some things about as well. But I’m just going to talk about your basic… building that you know you as a as a business owner want to put up or you know you’re a you’re even a developer where you own buildings like this and you want to put a building up and then be able to lease that out to somebody that could come in and occupy it in either case there’s not much difference in the hoops that you jump through now i understand that depending upon where you are in the country some of this might vary a little bit although up and down the front range here the There’s not going to be a lot of difference. In fact, I’m going to give you the basics. And in some cases, depending upon the town or city that you’re trying to get into, it will actually get more cumbersome, not less. I’m going to give you the basics of what a just general rule of thumb would be to run through a county here in Colorado. And when you get into actual cities and so on, it will do nothing but keep stacking up on top of what I’m going to tell you it takes to actually build something. So number one, you identify a piece of property that you think would work. Now, here’s where it gets dicey. If that building is in an area that actually is zoned for what you want to do, you’re a little bit ahead of the curve. Potentially. And some of you guys are saying, what do you mean, potentially? Well, let me explain. So let’s say, for example, you’re going to put up an industrial building that maybe has a little bit of retail space that’s needed in it, so you’ve got to have the right zoning to do both of those. But let’s say that you have found a piece of property in that particular area, zoned correctly, that would work. Your next step is you’ve identified all of that. You have figured out, mathematically speaking, that I can make all of this work according to finances that I have and what my ultimate cost will be when it’s all said and done, and I can make that work and I can fund it. And you’ve done all of that, by the way, on the front side. Because, by the way, you’re not going to make your next step in purchasing said land and even going through that process without making sure that you can pay for it first. So we’ve determined all of that. We can pay for it. It will work. It’s in the right area. It’s zoned correctly. Because, by the way, if it’s not, that’s a whole other set of hoops that you have to jump through first. to even get it zoned correctly. So if it’s zoned right and you’re able to do it, you identify a piece of property, all that is done, handled, and so on. And your next step is, and by the way, this really depends on where that ground is, and make sure I can explain this correctly, where the ground is in its order of development. What I mean by that is if it’s just straight raw ground and it’s in an area that has the right zoning, just because it has the right zoning and it’s raw ground doesn’t mean you can pop a building up on it quickly. For example… does it have infrastructure going to said piece of property in other words is there city sewer and water nearby and if so how far away is it will the city even sell you a tap for said property because by the way they control a lot of that and they could very well say that well you know that particular property is a little bit outside of what we actually want to service yeah we service a property next door but yeah no we’re not going to service that property These are all the things that you do in what you call your due diligence on said property to determine whether or not you can actually pop a building up. So once you’ve gotten to the point where, yep, the city will service it, here’s what my tap fees are going to be, and some of you are thinking, tap fees? Yeah, you don’t just get sewer and water. You pay the city for that right to be able to use their water and sewer, even though it’s yours as a taxpayer. Yes, some of you are going to find some of that appalling that you have to actually pay a fee to tap in and use what you’re already paying for with your tax dollars, but that’s how it works. So you figure all of that out. You figure out what the fees are going to be. You put that on top of what your other costs are. Voila, done deal. Now the next step is you’ve got to go to somebody that is a architect and you got to get a civil engineer involved. The civil engineer, by the way, is the one that will tell you where drainage needs to be. How’s that going to work? How do you tie into the existing storm drains that are there for the city? On and on we go. And yes, this is all part of a process of building a building. Once all that’s done and you’ve actually got plans for a building, you then go sit down with a city planner and you say, here’s my thoughts. Here’s what I’ve initially got dialed in. What do you think? I’m not exaggerating. This is exactly how it works. City planner will come back and look at things and say, well, you know, here’s what our original, this is funny, this is what our original plans for that particular property were. Yeah, they may say something like that. And you’re thinking, well, wait a minute, it’s raw land. What do you mean the city has a plan for that? Every city has what they call a master plan for development on all sorts of property that’s not developed yet. even pockets whereby there may be open land inside of a city. Believe it or not, there’s a master plan for how they want that to be developed. And if what you’re wanting to do doesn’t fit that, good luck. You may or may not even be able to build there. They may look at you and say, yeah, well, Charlie, you’ve got a great idea. And yeah, well, that’s great for the community. And what you want to put up is maybe you’re wanting to put up a center that would actually be helping youth. They may look at you and say, yeah, Charlie, that’s a great idea. But yeah, that doesn’t really fit into our master plan. So, yeah, you know, yeah, but no. Now, you can go in, you can apply for variances and all sorts of things, but what I’m going to tell you is, if it’s not in the master plan, good luck. Good luck. Can you get the city to change the master plan? Yeah, again, good luck. Have fun. All of what I’m talking about takes an immense amount of time, energy, and money to make that happen. Because you’re not doing it yourself, by the way. You’re hiring experts that will come in alongside you to go sit in front of city council meetings, do all the drawings, and so on, to make all of those changes necessary, whereby you might get approval. Let’s say, for example, you’re in an area. The master plan says that works. You’re now going to pop a building up. Yes, you sit down. You’re in front of a planner. You’re laying out your plans and they’re going to look back at you and say, yeah, I think that might work. Let’s you know, we can probably go to the next step. And I’m not exaggerating. That’s pretty much what they say. And you’re thinking to yourself, wait a minute. These are city planners. These are the experts. They should be able to tell you what’s going to work and not work. Yeah, but they don’t make the final stamp of approval. Because in most areas here in Colorado, and I think it’s pretty much true across the country, the planner will then take your plans and your thoughts and what you put down on paper, which, by the way, you’re paying to have all these things done. There’s an investment on this side of things. They will then take your plan to council or to the county commissioners and say, here’s what Charlie and John are thinking about doing on this particular piece of property. They then get some feedback back from counsel or commissioners on whether or not your idea actually is something they would entertain because it’s not a rubber stamp. And so you can see how much time starts to now roll by as Charlie and I are trying to put this building up. And we’ve got our engineers and we’ve got our drawings and we’ve got our plot plans and we’ve lined things out. And by the way, all that costs money, like I said a moment ago. So we’ve invested all of this money. We’ve sat down in front of the planner. The planner has run some things through initially. Then they come back and say, OK, yeah, you know what? Council and the commissioners, you know, either or. Yeah, they think your idea might work. Here’s your next step. And they give you a packet that then dials everything in as to all of the steps you will take and that will be required for you to actually get to the point where they will then approve a building permit. And by the way, everything that I just told you could take 18 months, and I’m not exaggerating. 18 months. From the time we’re here, remember, I’ve probably already spent six months getting to this point. So now I’m looking at a two-year process before I can actually get a building permit, and that’s on the good side, by the way. It could be three years, and I’m not exaggerating. Some of you out there listening and you’re sending text messages that I haven’t had a chance to read are probably verifying what I’m saying because some of you have gone through this process, and that’s how long it takes. And by the way, some of you are saying, well, then why don’t you just go to someplace like Cheyenne? It’s worse there. I’ve got a friend that built a building in Cheyenne and the hoops you jump through there are worse than down here, believe it or not. Well, why don’t I go here? Why don’t I go? OK, what if that’s not where your business is, though? What if that’s not where you want to do business? What if that’s not where you want to raise your family? You see where I’m going with this? There’s all sorts of things that you may not want to go someplace else. You want to do it here. But then at the end of the day, here doesn’t work. So, again, as I look at Donald Trump and he talks about bringing things back and we’re going to onshore this and we’re going to onshore that, that’s all fine and dandy. But unless you’ve got cities, counties, states that are willing to embrace some of the things that I am talking about, which, by the way, the front range of Colorado isn’t one of those because we don’t embrace any of that. We push it away. We do everything possible to not have development, not bring development in. And I’m sorry, if you’re somebody that sits on a council or you’re sitting on a county commissioner and you disagree with me, prove I’m wrong. Prove I’m wrong. Because I’m not, by the way. And some of you would say, well, geez, John, how do you know so much about all of this? Because I’ve been involved in these things long before coming on the radio, by the way, and other endeavors that I have been in. And I am not wrong in anything that I am saying. And I’m not wrong in how long this stuff takes. The wheels of motion inside of a city or a county move at a snail’s pace, and I’m not exaggerating. Literally, it is a snail’s pace. So a lot of people think, well, I’ll just go pop a building up over here on this corner. Yeah, good luck. Good luck. That sounds all fine and dandy, but good luck. Unless it’s already built, and this is the other thing that can happen. This is what developers do, by the way. There’s a whole world of people, like I just said, that do everything that I just mentioned, where they get a piece of property all the way to the point to where somebody could come along and start building. And by the way, that’s what they do as a living is they get all of that done. They take all of that risk. They get all of the property tied up. They get it done at a price where they know they can actually make some money when it’s all said and done and get what I call their entitlements. That’s what they’re called. They can get some of their entitlement money back. And at the end of the day, they then sell that off to the next day that will come and actually build. They never build. But they take a huge risk in getting it entitled to the point where somebody can build. And then they sell that off and the next guy comes in and builds. And yes, I know, developers take a bad rap all the time. But if you think about the risk that they have and everything that I just mentioned earlier and how much time they tie their money up, getting all of that said and done to hopefully have a payday at the end of the day, I’m not against developers because they have huge risk. Huge risk. There are a lot of developers that can get everything done that I just mentioned, put hard money down that they don’t get back if things go south, get all the way down to the 11th hour, and much like Dr. Kelly on the Surgeon General end of things, all that gets pulled at the 11th hour, and they’re left holding the bag. Happens on developments all of the time. In fact, cities and counties, in my opinion, should be sued over this stuff on a routine basis because they can screw up a deal in a heartbeat. And by the way, there’s a lot of politics involved in what I just said as well. Whose palms are you greasing to be able to get your particular development through or not? And on top of everything I just mentioned, by the way, there’s all sorts of meetings with residents around those said areas that you have to get involved and get approval of because the counties and cities won’t do anything unless all the people around that have input. That’s the politics side of it now. So where I’m going with all of this is we make it sound really easy to bring things back in and onshore, and Trump being a developer knows everything I just said better than I do. The reality is you’ve got to open up those channels and make things happen much faster than what they normally would, because I’m not exaggerating when I say your minimum for getting a shovel in the ground from date of conception on raw land to actually getting something built is two to three years, and I’m not at all exaggerating. In some cases, that may be faster than what would actually take place on that particular piece of ground. 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All right, I want to shift gears because I promo’d this, and some of you may want to chime in. Feel free to do so, 303-477-5600, or you can text us as well, 307-282-22, and that’s the subject of tipping. Now, I’ve done shows and segments before on tipping, more so along the lines of, you know, what is the proper way to tip? What should you tip for? Those sorts of things. And we’ve done it, I don’t know, over the course of a decade, probably two or three times. Now, I am one that believes in a tipping properly. What I mean by that is I’m a 20 percent tipper pretty much across the board. Sometimes maybe more depends on the service I received and, you know, the circumstances and so on. And frankly, depending upon how well you actually get to know the server. And some would say, what’s that got to do with anything? Well, you know, you start establishing relationships with certain servers and so on. And as you do, you start learning about, you know, situations that they may have going on and certain things that are happening in their life. And maybe there’s a particular situation where they’ve had a huge struggle that week. Maybe something happened where the, you know. car conked out or something along those lines and you know that they’re struggling in some cases it could be a single mom and you know they don’t have a lot of extra you know income and maybe don’t even have a lot of family around again as you learn about these people because you go to usually the same places over and over and over again and you could end up having the same server you know there may be times where you decide that you know you’re going to just give them a hundred dollar bill instead of your normal tip why because they need it And you want to be that influence in their life. And yes, I’ve done those sorts of things and still do and will do because you want to be a help to them at the end of the day. So my point is, yes, I think tipping is important. We live in a society in the United States of America to where a lot of things are not included in the price. And these particular individuals are relying on what you’re doing tipping wise to make ends meet, to be a part of their income. And I have no problem with that. Now, where I do have a problem, and this is more along the lines of what I wanted to talk about today, is I’m also one where I’m not tipping you to put the, you know, and I don’t go and get a lot of donuts or pastries or things like that. But, you know, occasionally, you know, my wife and I will be out or something, and she wants something along those lines. And so we go and get whatever it is. And I’m just not one, and maybe I’m wrong on this, but I’m not one to give a tip for taking tongs, putting them into the case, pulling out a cinnamon roll, let’s say, sticking it in the bag and handing it to you. To me, there’s not much tip deserved there. You didn’t do anything. You’re doing your job. You’re doing what you paid for. Now, I don’t know what the pay scale is and all of that. None of my business, by the way, because I don’t run that business. But I don’t really look at that. And maybe I’m wrong in this. And if you’re one of those people, I’m sorry. And I’m not trying to be rude to you. But I just don’t see that as much of a tipping position. And Charlie, maybe you’ve served things before, you’ve been in that world, and I just don’t, you know. Now, does that mean I won’t leave anything? No, but am I leaving a full 20% for somebody that handed me a cinnamon roll? No, I’m not. I’ll just be straight up honest. No, I’m not. I might give them 5%, 10%, something along those lines, but I’m not doing 20% in a situation like that. And I’m for sure not doing it when literally the person did nothing. And here’s what I mean by that. You go to maybe the sandwich shop and you order a BLT. and the person at the front counter does absolutely nothing other than punch the order in. The person back behind the kitchen area where you can see them getting a signal sent to them as to what they’re supposed to make, and that guy’s in the back making the sandwich, and they get it all made up. They even wrap it. They do everything, and all they do is stick it on top of the counter when they’re done, and all the person does that rang you up is grab it and hand it to you. Again, is that a tippable position? Not in my book. I’m sorry, not in my book. They’re not doing anything other than punching into the iPad what it is you ordered, and then they hand you said order, and off you go. Again, to me, not a tippable position. If I’m wrong in that, somebody please correct me. 303-477-5600. You know what? This is one of those areas where if I need to be corrected on this and my mentality is not correct, I’m all ears. I am open. Because I will tell you some of the other things that I do tip for that some of you may not tip for. So it’s not that I’m against tipping at all. I’m not that person at all. But to just take an order… that you’re most likely already getting a wage to do, I’m not tipping for that. Especially, let me go one step further, especially when there’s not a lot of interaction between me and that person. In some cases, you may not even get a smile out of it. In my opinion, they’re a cashier at that point. They’re not doing a tippable, it’s not a tippable job. It’s like going to King Soopers, and instead of me checking out my own stuff, you go to the line where they check you out. But to me, it’s no different. I’m putting my stuff on the belt. They’re ringing it up. They tell me what the total is. I give them whatever it is, cash, credit card, whatever, and out the door I go. To me, it’s no different. If I’m wrong in that, somebody can correct me, but I don’t see it. I literally see it no different from one to the other. It’s identical to me. So I don’t believe in tipping a cashier. And some of you that are cashiers may be really mad at me for saying that, but I don’t see that. Now, other areas where I do tip is if I go stay at a hotel, do I leave money for the maid? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Some would say, why, John? They’re getting paid to clean the room and so on. Well… I don’t know. I guess for me, I know what being in that position is like. I’ve never cleaned hotels, but when I was a kid, growing up in the car world, I tell you what, I have scrubbed a lot of toilets. I have cleaned a lot of urinals. I have emptied a lot of ashtrays. I have scrubbed a lot of cigarette smoke off of the inside of windows. I have cleaned up ashes out of carpet, and, and, and, and, and we go… I have thrown out dirty diapers. I mean, I can go down the list, folks, of things I’ve done in that world, and I know that’s not a fun job. Cleaning up after people sucks. It just does. Charlie, you know exactly what I mean by that. It just stinks. It’s not a good job. So my feeling is if I can do anything at all, a little bit to brighten their day, I do. What my wife and I have gone as far as to do, and I know I’m a weirdo, but this is me. We have actually, depending upon the time of the year that we are traveling, I have bought little, like, foldable business cards you print on your own printer. And it has our name on it. And if it’s towards Christmastime, it’ll say, you know, Merry Christmas, hope you have a great holiday, something to that nature. If it’s another time of the year, we have other things that we print on them. And I actually fold those up and put that on top of the money that we leave the maids so that they know that we – in particular, Mr. and Mrs. Rush, appreciate what they’ve done. And it says that on there. And I know I’m weird, but I just feel like doing a little bit extra for those people goes a long way. Especially if I’m there for a multi-night stay, I definitely will do that because you’ll be surprised the extra things they get you, by the way. Coffee, soaps, shampoos, different things along, extra towels, whatever. I mean, you’ll be surprised the things that you get by just doing that. It’s a huge bump, by the way, and it just makes your stay that much nicer. And by the way, I’m not talking about a ton of money. I’m talking about leaving $5 or so. It’s not a ton. We’re not talking $100 bill. We’re talking $5, $10, something along those lines. It’s not much. So that’s something that I tip. I tip Bellman. If somebody helps me take my bags from X to X, yes, I’m going to tip them. I’m going to help them out. Again, that’s how they make that is a part of what they do and what’s included in their pay. Do I tip the folks at the front desk? Maybe I should, but no, I don’t. To me, I look at them more as a cashier. They’re handling things differently than what the bellman or the maid is. If I’m somebody, though, where you’re out at the pool and they’re doing special things for you and so on, will I tip the pool person? Absolutely. Absolutely. I give them extra as well. Anytime you get something from the restaurant or something along those lines, of course you’re going to tip them because, again, it’s a part of their pay. So, again, all of you may look at things differently, but this article, by the way, came out of Apple News, and it was about how people are tired of tipping for everything. Literally, they feel like they’re getting tipped to death. And you know what? There’s times I feel that way as well. Back to the counter situation where you’re buying a cinnamon roll, and that person flips the screen around, and they want you to give them a tip. You didn’t do anything. You handed me the roll. In some cases, they didn’t even do that. They took the order. They’re not bringing you the order. They’re not walking it out to you in the dining area. They literally took an order, put it through, and that’s it. And no, I don’t feel obligated to tip in those particular situations. You know, for years and years, you know, I worked in the auto industry forever. Do I think you should tip your auto mechanic? No, you shouldn’t. Their fees are built into what’s going on when it comes to fixing your car. Now, if you want to do something extra for them, bring them some cookies or whatever, more power to you. But do you need to tip your auto technician? No. Do you need to tip your HVAC technician? No. Do you need to tip the plumber? No. Do you need to tip the electrician? No. You get my drift. Those are all factored into what those people are doing. You do not need to tip them. Now, if you go to get your car detailed and they’re doing some extra stuff and they do a wash and a wax, it’s one of those where they’re doing a little bit more than what you normally would get. Should you tip that person? Yeah, I think you should. That’s a different situation. So I’m one to say it depends on the circumstances. What did that person do? Did they go the extra mile? If they did, yes, I will tip them. But I’m not just tipping because you flip the screen around. I’m not into that, and that’s one where I’m dead set. And as you guys can all tell from the stories I’ve already given, I have no problem tipping at all if it’s deserved. If you’re just flipping the screen around, though, on me and you want some sort of a tip, the answer is going to be no, and I’m liable to put in zero. Because to me, you didn’t deserve anything at that point. All right, Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning, speaking of the HVAC end of it, no. Hunter at Cub Creek does not expect a tip. He’s going to build all that into the price that he gives you. He’s great at doing second opinions, by the way. So if you’ve had something already diagnosed but you want a second opinion, he’ll help you with that as well. 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All right, we are back. Thanks, by the way, for all the text messages that came in on my last topic on tipping. I didn’t have anybody that disagreed with me at all. In fact, most of you were saying the exact same thing. Some of you even, like Charlie, had worked in your past for tips and understand exactly how a lot of that works. And one other thing I wanted to add to that, too, for those of you that may be listening since Mother’s Day is coming up this weekend. And a lot of you that especially are churchgoers may very well go to church. Maybe you’ll take mom out after church or you’ll go to brunch or you’ll do something along those lines. And let me tell you what, the servers will know who you are because your conversations typically will lead to, oh, okay, those are folks that went to church or they don’t go to church or whatever the case may be. Those of you that do, please don’t leave a huge mess for your server, especially those of you that have little kids. And what I mean by that is if your kids make a big mess, do your best to pick up the big chunks at least and do what you can to try to make things a little bit better for the server. They’re trying to get as many table turns in on a Sunday as possible. That’s how restaurants make money, by the way, is they turn tables. One more thing, too, to help them out. When you’re done with your meal, leave. Don’t sit there and chatter for the next hour, hour and a half while you’re sitting at the table. Some of you think you paid rent for that table because you had a meal there. You did not. You had a meal. Leave. You’re done. Go. Let them have a table turn. That’s how they make money. Don’t sit there and dink around for the next hour, hour and a half, two hours just because you want to be there and you have nowhere else to go. Go talk somewhere else. It’ll be a really nice day on Sunday. Go outside even. But leave. And I mean that sincerely. Don’t sit there and hang out at the table. You’re costing the restaurant money at that point. And no, you didn’t pay for it. You didn’t rent it. I’ll leave it at that. We’ll be back. Another full hour coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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