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In this episode of Drive Radio, we take on common car myths and auto industry shifts. Why are Toyota trucks facing scrutiny? Should you avoid buying a Nissan right now? What’s really going on with battery warranties? Plus, we share expert advice on shock replacement for heavy-duty trucks and a DIY repair fail that left one listener soaked in coolant. Don’t miss it!
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Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 20 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado Select Auto Care Centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560 The Source.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Welcome back. Hour number two. Myself, Pat Schneid from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Steve Horvath from Geno’s Auto Service down here in the Centennial area. And you can find everybody that’s a part of what we do here, whether that’s car-related or not, at drive-radio.com. And we appreciate everybody that makes this show happen on a regular basis. Okay, back to Paul in Lafayette. Paul, really quick, just to recap, you’ve got a 2013 Tacoma. About 55,000 miles. You’re potentially looking at changing out of that truck. I just want to recap for folks that maybe are just joining us here at this top of the hour here at 11 o’clock. Did I miss anything?
SPEAKER 08 :
No. Well, I was going to recoup that. Tacoma’s been very reliable. But I’m thinking, you know, getting into a new one that I could get an extended warranty. But I’d like the V6, and now they don’t provide that.
SPEAKER 06 :
They do not.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s only four-cylinder with turbo. And I know you say Toyota has been very reliable, but what do you think about that controversy in general? Nissan Frontier, do you like Nissan Frontier?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and here’s the issue that I have personally right now on the Nissan side. Nothing against Nissan. I think they build a quality product. But where Nissan ends up, they’ve got some financial issues going on right now. They’re on… the market for sale there was a deal with honda that fell through so right now paul honestly until nissan figures out where they’re headed on those end of things i wouldn’t buy a nissan either my advice to you we were talking about this a little bit at the break that the three of us were My advice to you would be if you really want to replace that truck and you want another Toyota, the one you’re driving is fine. It’s not going to leave you high and dry between now and even six months from now. I would wait and just see what’s happening with their engine issues. They’re going to get those resolved. Trust me, it’s Toyota. They’re not going to have this problem forever anymore. But I would let them work some of these challenges they have right now, and then once those are over, if you decide you want to do something at that point in time, your truck is not going to go down in value based upon everything I just said. So the reality is you waiting isn’t going to change anything. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, good advice. Thank you. And then I think the Tundra, you know, might have that. They might have a V6, but I’m not sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, they’re doing a similar—well, it depends on which one you get, but they’re doing a hybrid situation in their upper-end trucks, which is also a four-cylinder turbo with their hybrid technology and so on. Now, keep in mind, you’re changing apples to oranges because Tundra is much, much larger. I mean, much, much larger than— Tacoma. In fact, the new Tacoma larger than your current Tacoma.
SPEAKER 08 :
I see. Yeah, I might stick with the Tacoma. I don’t know if I can get the big one in the garage.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and when I say sizable difference, it’s a sizable difference going from Tacoma to Tundra, I should say. I mean, it’s like a Chevy Colorado going to a full-size truck or a Ranger going to a full-size truck. There’s a significant difference. And even significant difference just like in Ranger in Colorado, there’s a significant difference in the size of new Tacoma versus what yours is. Not huge, but they keep getting bigger is my point, Paul.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re right. The Ranger they brought back, and what about the Honda Ridgeline?
SPEAKER 06 :
The Ridgeline is great. Again, it’s nothing against Ridgeline owners. Those of you that are listening, great car slash truck. I don’t consider it a truck. I’m sorry, because I think trucks should be frame-on body, and a Ridgeline is a unibody. It’s not a frame-on body, so that’s why, Paul, I don’t consider the Ridgeline. I don’t put it in the same category that I would a Ranger, a Colorado, or especially a Tacoma.
SPEAKER 11 :
So that being said, it’s a great vehicle by itself, but it’s just not as much of a truck vehicle.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is not a truck.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it’s kind of a semi-truck.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, you guys, thanks a lot.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re very welcome. So, in other words, Paul, I want to reiterate, I just had somebody text in even that said, hey, you know, that vehicle will run 200,000 plus miles easily, no transmission, no nothing. You keep it maintained and keep things rolling along, and we’ve got folks in your area that definitely can help you with that. You know, the guys at Legacy in Boulder just down the road from you, you can take that vehicle you’ve got now, and I’m not exaggerating, Paul, drive it until you die, and I’m not exaggerating.
SPEAKER 08 :
I take it in every six months. Usually the Mountain States, Toyota, and they’re pretty good.
SPEAKER 06 :
You won’t have any issues. You’re fine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, super. Thanks a lot.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Paul, thank you. Good question, by the way, because a lot of folks are looking at that on, you know, what do I buy? And I can tell you, I get text messages, just received one a moment ago that said, right now I would not buy that Toyota right now, period, because of all of the issues that they are having right now. And I honestly can’t, wouldn’t normally say this about Toyota products, but in this particular case, I’m with the people texting. I wouldn’t either right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and to your point, Toyota will not let the issue go unresolved, so they will fix it. But do you have any sense of how long that takes to run through the supply chain?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, typically it’s a one or two model year fix is typically what we see, you know, in general. I mean, go all the way back in time to where… You know, we’ve been in this industry, I’ve been in this industry for a very, very, very long time. And in a lot of cases, back in the old days, it would take more than a model year to get some of these fixed. I mean, some of the first overdrive transmissions or fuel injection and things came out, it was four or five model year, you know, cycles to actually get some of these bugs worked out. Now, I don’t think Toyota needs, you know, four or five cycles, but would I give them one or two to get things worked out? Yes, I would.
SPEAKER 11 :
So we might be looking at a 2026 model year truck.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or seven, even, depending upon how far down the road things… go so again and that was a great question by the way so thank you for that and and i think for a lot of folks this is where especially a lot of you that are older and not picking on older folks so this is not i’m not picking on anybody but i think because of the era that literally all of us in the room charlie larry myself steve pat the era that we all grew up in You typically only drove a car into the upper 90s. When that car hit 100,000, you knew you were going to start spending a lot of money on that car. So for a lot of us that are older, and I am, I’m 60. So for a lot of us that are older, we kind of have in our mind that, oh, gosh, if I get 100,000 miles on this car, I need to replace it. that isn’t true anymore that is a mindset frankly that needs to be thrown out it is not true there’s even some of the worst cars made will go to a hundred thousand miles and beyond especially if they’re maintained well correct so the reality is that vehicle that 2013 toyota that happens to be one that frankly was one of the better units they probably ever built and it’s literally a 300 000 mile cycle vehicle and there’s a lot of them running around that probably have a couple hundred thousand on them And the need to replace that vehicle at $100,000 just isn’t what it used to be. Guys want to add to that? Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I agree. I think sometimes people make a change just to make a change.
SPEAKER 06 :
And by the way, if that’s what you’re doing, that’s fine. If you’re looking for creature comforts or whatever the case may be, that’s a whole different scenario. And if you can afford it, you know what? That keeps the economy rolling. Knock your socks off. And it puts a nice used car into the market as well. That’s right. So not complaining, but I think there’s also times where, guys, people go into even more debt. And they end up making bad financial choices because they feel like I’m at $100,000. I now need to go change this car out. And the reality is, no, they don’t.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and as you said, it really depends on how well that vehicle’s been maintained. Because if you do maintain it, to me, in my mind, most vehicles now, that number is closer to 200 or maybe 250,000 miles. Depends on the model and the quality.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, I don’t know if you’ve ever done it, but, you know, I think our average cars that we work on are over 100,000 if we took all the cars. You know, on an average day, if we picked out, they’re well over 100,000 probably.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s a really good point. I’ve done that exercise a couple times and even recently. So our average car at Alltech Automotive is about 12 years old and between 120,000 and 130,000 miles. That’s our average car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so there’s it, folks. There’s some great examples.
SPEAKER 09 :
Those are not Toyotas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Those are not, you know, those are Ford, Chevys, everything, Subarus, Jeeps. And by the way, I just had two texters that agreed with every single thing that we just said along those lines in regards to the quality of that particular vehicle today versus where it was then. And frankly, just keep driving what you have. Or, you know, don’t forget, you’ve got other models you can look at, Ford, Chevy, and so on. But And honestly, in that particular situation, if you really want to do something else with another Toyota, just continue to drive what you have and look at it in a couple of years. All right. Question of the day. Don’t forget. What would the advice be to your younger self? What advice would you give your younger slash teenage self? We’ll come right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, and I have gotten, since we had our last caller on that 2013 Toyota, so many of you, I’ve had multiple text messages agreeing with everything that we said, and actually even throwing out there that when that individual, Paul wants to sell it, let us know, because there’s probably like eight text messages on people wanting to buy it. So, Paul, here’s the thing. Yeah, you’re driving something that has a lot of demand. That’s right. And unfortunately, the new one that you’re thinking about buying And I also had several comments from texters saying the same thing that we are, that, hey, if you find a used car that’s got less than 100,000 miles or even right at, still considered a low-mileage used car, where back in the day, the days when I was first learning the business and getting into it and so on, if you had a car that had 100,000 miles on it, it was worn out. Hmm. Most people didn’t even want to buy a car that had 100,000. If you wanted to buy a used car, you tried to buy one at around 40,000 to 50,000 miles, knowing you still had half life. That’s right. Because once they got to 100K, you didn’t want that car anymore.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, you figured you were going to do an engine and a transmission at that point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Yeah. So, yeah, folks, trust me. Things are way different than they used to be. And my point with a lot of you that are maybe from that era that I’m talking about and really feel like, oh, this car is getting close to 100,000 miles. I need to get rid of it. Yeah, no, you don’t. All right. Got a text message. Heads up from your fellow from Fort Collins. Watch traffic on the way home. I-25 northbound is closed at crossroads. A Toyota RAV4 went under a semi and killed the Toyota driver. I’m sure the road will reopen by the end of the show, but just check to be careful. So there you go. Thank you for that, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for the heads up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sad story. Yeah, I never want to hear those sorts of stories. And you have to wonder, okay, what caused that under the semi? I can’t even begin to think of what happened there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they don’t fit under the semi.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, there was metal collision damage from the get-go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s not good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Something happened bad, yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, question of the day. What’s some advice you would give your old self? When you were younger, I should say, 303-477-5600 is our main line here in the studio. If you’d like to send us a text message, you can as well. 307-282-22. 307-282-22. All right, text message just came in. Would you buy a 2015 Chevy Impala with a 3.6 V6 with 112,000 miles, no wrecks for 11K? Yeah? Yeah. It’s not a bad car. Yep, I agree. For $11,000, really quick, Josh and Justin from Ridgeline could tell you this, and we talk about this quite often. It’s hard to find a really good used car that doesn’t have three to four grand worth of work needed for $10,000. Yes, yes. So, frankly, I would say this about any car. In that realm, not just a 2015 Impala, but if you can find a really good used car, 100,000 miles roughly, doesn’t need a ton of work in your pre-purchase, is that car worth the money? Yes. So do the pre-purchase. Absolutely. Got to.
SPEAKER 11 :
And save a little budget money. So don’t max out your budget on the purchase. There you go. Replace brakes, replace tires, whatever it needs, and you’ll be fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. So, yes, would I buy that car in that scenario? Yeah, I don’t think that’s a bad deal at all because it’s hard to buy a used car today for under $10,000, and I’m not exaggerating.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I think generally we would say that Impala with the 3.6 is a pretty reliable package.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s a good engine, yeah. So there you go. Yeah, go for it. Eric, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, guys. So first off for Geno’s, I’ve got to give you guys praise. My father’s caregiver or caretaker – I used you guys at my recommendation a couple months ago for a pre-purchase inspection on a used car, and you guys gave it a clean bill of health. Told them it was a good deal. Good. I’m glad.
SPEAKER 11 :
Very nice.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. So the other thing, so the guy who called a few minutes ago, a comparison between the Toyota and the Nissan, and John, I missed whatever you had to say on it, but the 3.8, so Nissan is the last with the naturally aspirated engines now at the midsize pickup.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
With that 3.8. The early three eights have had a few random issues. The early nine speed had a few issues. They seem to have all the bugs worked out from what I have seen on the forums and whatnot. There are at least two dozen three eights that are now over a hundred thousand miles with blowing reviews with just routine maintenance. Um, so that’s, you know, The biggest thing with the Frontier, the newer Frontier, seems to be the same thing as with everything else. Just a little naggling, little things that you, with any new vehicle type thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and what I told him was, no offense, I wouldn’t buy a Nissan right now until Nissan figures out financially what they’re going to do next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Exactly. That was going to be my comment was, That’s where the issue is going to be.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s the biggest thing right now. Not because they’re bad vehicles at all, Eric. It’s just I want to know where are you going to be corporately speaking before I buy into you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And that’s kind of the only thing, too. My wife and I keep debating about getting rid of her Buick and going to something else. And she likes the Altima. She likes the Rogue. And she likes the Pathfinder. And we discussed that. And Nissan has announced the Murano. It’s going to go from a CVT to a 9-speed, and we’ve talked about that. And I’m like, look, I’ve become a big fan of Nissan in the last 10, 12 years, but I want to know what’s going to happen here, too, financially.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Because, as you know, Eric, they’re struggling. Are they too big to fail? Yeah. Well, nobody’s ever too big to fail. I mean, banks and so on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Will the Japanese government bail them out? That’s the other part.
SPEAKER 06 :
i good question i don’t know and again these are questions that none of us have answers to and i think this is one of the things that nissan is rolling around trying to meet right now is for all of you listening right now what’s happening inside of infinity and nissan there’s a lot of dealers even where nissan is allowing if you own an infinity and a nissan dealer in their two separate locations because that’s the way nissan has always set it up they are now allowing you to to combine locations, reduce overhead, trying to help these dealers out. Eric, when you see those things and signs of that, that’s not good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. No, it’s not. And like you say, that’s a concern. So my final thing here is a funny story, something that happened last week. Now, let me preface this by saying my Frontier has an oil cooler. Now, as an experienced mechanic for you guys, how would you assume an oil cooler is cooled?
SPEAKER 06 :
How an oil cooler is cooled. It depends on the… Coolant. Well, in some cases it’s air. It depends on the situation.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, okay, it’s bolted to the engine block and has hoses attached to it. How would you assume that it’s coolant?
SPEAKER 06 :
Coolant, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Now, let’s say you forgot how to work on a car and you were completely brain dead and not thinking. How would you assume it was coolant?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Last week, so I wanted to replace the seal on the oil cooler on the backside. You have to unbolt it because it’s been weeping just a little bit. So I took it apart. I’m also slowly in the process of replacing some of the rubber hoses on here with silicone hoses. And this kit that I bought is for the oil cooler hoses. I get in there and start disassembling stuff, and I find the hose and find where it goes from the oil cooler to the front of the block, and I take the hose clamp loose, go to remove it, won’t budge. In the back of my mind, I never guessed that it’s cooled with engine coolant. As I cut into the hose with my trusty chop knife and get promptly sprayed in the face with a bright blue stream of engine coolant, The other part of my brain kicked in and said, hey, dummy, it’s cooled with engine coolant, and now there’s coolant running down the driveway. What was supposed to be about a 90-minute project turned into a five-hour project. They had to refill and burp the cooling system. A lot of these modern vehicles have these closed-loop cooling systems that require special processes and procedures to burp them. I’ve never done that before. I’ve never messed with the cooling system on my front tier. I have now. Got it working, which now I have the inspiration to the cooling system upgrades that I was going to pay somebody else to do later on this year. I’m feeling ambitious. I think I can do it myself now that I… Yeah, of course. You’ve got a great education. Yeah, believe me, it was a hell of an education. Because it’s like I got sprayed in the face… promptly reached, I quickly reached over and released the cap on the reservoir so that instead of getting sprayed, now the coolant all just dripped to the floor because it wasn’t under pressure. And I screamed and kind of jumped back in the process. My wife comes outside and goes, what? And she goes, what’s that dripping off of you? And I was like, that’s coolant. Like I say, there’s a street as coolant is just running down the driveway and You know, by that point in time, I was like, well, the hose has got to come off. They’re cut. So, you know, I went into it, and I got it done, but I was just like, oh, man. And I was talking to my dad Sunday night, and we were talking, and he goes, And my first question was, how would you assume the oil cooler is cooled? And he goes, antifreeze. And I go, yeah, but what if you were brain dead? And he goes, no, you’re right. And I said, because that’s exactly, it never, anywhere in the deepest, darkest recess of my mind, as I started tearing this apart, did it dawn on me that it uses coolant. You know, the cooling system. I still don’t know why. it just you know but afterwards it’s like common sense right if it’s got hoses going to it it’s going to be cool yeah well but see like my thought on it was okay does it maybe flow through you like the transmission does it flow through part of the radiator right you know and is it oil that’s in those hoses exactly that’d be an alternative right Right. And that was kind of what my old friend was thinking.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s its own little radiator. It’s its own little radiator, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it is. Because it’s like when you pull the center nut out or the center bolt out of it, you lose about a cup of oil once that bolt comes out. Because it holds about a cup of oil in there as part of the, you know, in addition to what’s in the filter. Right. And, yeah, I just unbolt it and pull it apart, and all this oil comes out. And I’m like, okay, there’s all the extra oil because all the videos and whatnot that I’ve watched on it, nobody mentions the fact that the oil cooler is cooled by coolant.
SPEAKER 11 :
So a few minutes ago, John was mentioning some of the technology changes that have happened in our industry. And back in the day, General Motors, when they were trying to reposition one of their brands, had a campaign that said, this is not your father’s Oldsmobile, right? And so what you just learned, Eric, is that some of the frustrations we deal with in the independent repair side, why does it cost so much to repair an oil cooler? Why does it cost so much to change spark plugs? Because it’s not your father’s Oldsmobile. This is a whole new world out there. Exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, there’s a couple of automotive guys that I follow on YouTube, you know, shops that I follow on YouTube. And they make that point all the time, too, about why does this cost this and why does this cost that. And it’s, you know, and it makes a very good point on that with some of them. And like I said, when I started on this, doing this the other day, I was just like, eh, piece of cake, hour, hour and a half. Like I said, five hours later when I was finally done, my wife just looked at me and I just, well, whatever. I mean, my phone was covered in antifreeze.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because my phone was laying on top of the grill or the deal there in front of the radiator. So when the coolant sprayed, it got me, like I say, me in the face and everything. And it’s just like, ugh. You know, five trips or four trips to the auto parts store for coolant and everything else. As I’m doing this, it’s like, oh, brother.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s great.
SPEAKER 15 :
Eric, got to run, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Appreciate you very much. Have a great rest of your day. We’ve got a car review coming up next that we did on Monday. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week where we do car reviews. Richard, you’ve driven a couple here of late. Which one do you want to start with?
SPEAKER 10 :
Let’s start with the one that we’ve both driven, which is a 2025 Hyundai Genesis. I guess it’s not Hyundai. Sorry, sorry, sorry. 2025 Genesis G80, which is their midsize luxury sedan dad. This is the 3.5T. sport prestige all-wheel drive and some of you folks are going to say wow richard that’s a mouthful all you need to know dad 2025 genesis g80 again this is an all-wheel drive this is right there in terms of any of the luxury sedans that you’re going to find out there this is Right there in the mix. And if you’re in the market for this size of car, Dad, I would highly encourage folks to check this out. It’s got all of the creature comforts you’d want, all of the safety features that you want. It’s got a new 27-inch infotainment screen. There’s lots of driver-assisted features. All sorts of beautiful, I guess, beautiful apportionments. It’s got a 370-horsepower V6 underneath the hood, which, again, is a twin-turbo V6. Runs really, really well. The 8-speed automatic. And, again, this is one of the cars that you and I rarely actually get to kind of drive. Both of us get to drive. I think you might have had more fun with this car than I did.
SPEAKER 06 :
My wife absolutely loved this car. The look, the feel, the interior, all of the apportionments, as you just said, it’s an extremely – how should I say this, Richard? For the money, it’s an extremely great car. And I know a lot of people say, well, it’s a lot of money. It’s $80,000. Well, keep in mind, the counterpart for this would be six digits, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
I was going to say, when you get to some of the other foreign manufacturers, there’s a couple American-made variants too, but other foreign manufacturers that it is really hard-pressed to find a car for less than $80,000. Granted, not much less than $80,000. I think it’s about $78,000. $79,000 is the price point on this. Like you said, Dad, you have to be into these six figures to get something comparable from some of the other competitors, right? Massaging front seat, heated and ventilated. You got the automatic screen shade, which, again, some people are going to look at. I’ll just say this, Dad. If you’re in the market for a midsize luxury, and that’s a key point here, right? The luxury sedan, you will be hard-pressed to show me a car that will beat this car for the money.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. No, you are right. And some of you may be saying, well, what kind of cars does it compete with? Well, it’s going to compete with your midsize BMWs, your Mercedes. You get the drift of where I’m going with this, and that’s the kind of car that this car is competing with. And if you go look at, for example, I just did the math on this. You’re about a minimum, depending on how things are equipped, about 10K less on this Genesis fully equipped than you are some of the competitors.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And so real quick, dad, fuel economy, now that it’s a huge deal, 16 and 24 for an average of 19. I think you and I are right there about 20, 21 miles per gallon. It’s got plenty of get up and go here for our altitude and that all wheel drive for the vast majority. And we mentioned weather at the earlier part of this, you know, kind of the last half of this hour. With most snowstorms here in Colorado, you can do everything that you’d want to do, right, and go anywhere that you want to go with the all-wheel drive. Yes, it’s a sedan, so it’s going to sit a little bit lower, but the fact that you’ve got that capability is really kind of second to none. So I absolutely encourage folks to check this vehicle out. Head to your local Genesis dealer, again, 2025 G80 3.5T, and let them know that John and Richard Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio sent you.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Dennis, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hi, John. As I teased the other day, I’d like to talk to you about your major radio sponsor. Sure. So, you know I have a 97 Ford F-250 heavy duty with a power stroke diesel in it. And recently, one of the batteries tested bad, as you’ve taught me. You replace both batteries, not just one, when a battery goes bad. I had purchased these batteries in January of 2020. At the time, they came with a three-year free replacement warranty and an 84-month prorated warranty. So I contacted NAPA, and they would not honor that warranty. Because? Because the… In spite of these supposedly being the best batteries on the market, they have downgraded the warranty on those Napa Legend batteries to two years free replacement, no proration whatsoever. Right. And since I couldn’t prove…
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I don’t think they’re not prorating anymore that I’m aware of, and they’re now using, those were Exides back then, and this area around here now, that’s going to be a Pan or a DECA-type battery. Yep, different manufacturer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, so my cautionary tale to NAPA customers is if you buy a battery, well, it’s not going to matter anymore, but I should have printed the warranty back then. because they would not honor that warranty now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you buy the batteries over the retail counter? Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
And just full disclaimer, I’ve had some help from a Napa Select shop, and we got this taken care of, but I’m just warning all your other customers.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and my advice, you guys hear me talk all the time. I don’t care what the warranty on the battery is. Plan on a replacement at four to five years, period. And don’t buy the max warranty battery anyways because, frankly, they’re no better than the regular battery. Buy the 48-month battery. Plan on replacing it unless you’re not using the vehicle much and you have it on a tender and so on, which then you can extend the life of the battery. But if it’s your daily driver, yeah, plan on putting batteries in it every four to five years. Agreed.
SPEAKER 09 :
And on my truck, I’m doing it about every three and a half. Yeah, it doesn’t go as long. Some of the newer vehicles just don’t do well.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I’m guessing, Dennis, because of what Steve just said is why the warranty has changed.
SPEAKER 09 :
I believe that is why the warranty has changed as well. I guess I wasn’t aware of that. Is this all the batteries? I think that’s across the board, yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
So it’s the Napa Legend, which is the middle. It’s their best warranty. It’s not an AGM battery, but it’s the best lead-acid battery that NAPA sells.
SPEAKER 15 :
As you mentioned, John, with NAPA, you’ve got good, better, best. This seemed to be the middle of the road. I could have stepped up to a NAPA AAA, which has a three-year free replacement, no proration.
SPEAKER 06 :
And they’re not as good a battery, so I wouldn’t do that either. No, you’re paying for the warranty. Yeah, I wouldn’t do that. Right. It’s the same battery, just AAA. Yeah. stepped up to a specialty battery as much as $800 a piece. No, they’re not worth doing either. And on that, just a regular lead acid, that 48-month middle-of-the-road battery, it’s now a Penn battery, which, by the way, is a better battery than what you had in it prior. That’s what I would do in it. I wouldn’t do anything else.
SPEAKER 11 :
And as a fleet operator, that’s what I do on all our fleet trucks. You said 97F250, so these are Group 65. They’re big batteries. Right. Probably $180, maybe $220 a piece-ish retail? Yeah. 200, yes. Yeah. Is that right? It’s 3565. Yep. It seems like a little short-sighted on that part, not to help you out.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I find it interesting that these are supposed to be the best batteries on the market, and they’re downgrading the warranties. It doesn’t make sense.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, keep in mind, that’s not necessarily coming from Napa, Dennis. Like I said, depending on what part of the country you’re in, you’re either going to get an Exide or a Penn, and a lot of that warranty is coming from Exide or Penn, not Napa.
SPEAKER 11 :
And this is not with regards to 97 vehicles. This is the newer vehicles that have got more power management. They’ve got computer modules that don’t go to sleep, and so they’re draining those batteries. And so the battery life in general on newer vehicles is not as long as it was in slightly older vehicles. Correct. And they know the age of the fleet is about 12 1⁄2 years old. That’s right. So you’re kind of in a unicorn position here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and again, Dennis, that warranty on a lot of NAPA products, there’s a few that they might have some control over the warranty on as far as what they get from the supplier. But in general, the warranty is coming from that supplier.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and again, I’m the guy that says if your product is that much better, stand behind it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and what I’m going to tell you is plan on replacing a battery for four to five years anyway. So, sorry, it just is what it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
I understand. Yeah, but I think two years on a warranty, if you’ve got the best battery on the market, is short-sighted.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, and that’s an issue where you’re going to have to go call Pan or Exide. That’s not a NAPA issue. Okay. Fair enough. And Napa’s just passing that along. And thanks, Dennis. I appreciate that. Or you can spend more money and go buy the AAA, but I wouldn’t do the AAA one. I don’t think you’re gaining anything when you do that. Bob and Golden, hang tight. We’ll come right back to you. This is Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Hello, Bob. Hello, John. Hey, how are you, sir? Hey, excellent, excellent. I’ve got a question on shock absorbers. Yes. So I’ve got a 2015 Ram 1500 Laramie 5.7 gas, and it’s got 102,000 miles, and it’s got the factory shocks, but I can kind of tell the back ones are bouncing a little bit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they need replaced. The mileage alone, they need replaced.
SPEAKER 16 :
And do you have any recommendations? I’m on NAPA’s website, and, you know, there’s… KYBs, Bilsteins, Ranchos out there?
SPEAKER 06 :
They are all, literally every one of those you just mentioned, they’re all great quality. I wouldn’t have a problem using any of them, but they’re all different. And what I mean by that is, you know, Rancho, they’ve got a twin tube construction. If you’re going to do any off-roading, there’s some advantages of it. They will give you a pretty decent ride when it’s all said and done. The KYBs, because they’re a full gas charge shock, the Ranchos are not. They’re going to be a little bit of a… stiffer ride and i would tell you that the bilsteins are probably right in line with the kybs although maybe a slight softer ride than the kybs and they’re a great shock as well so any one of those three is great it really kind of comes down to cost and what ride quality do you want Okay. So, yeah. One more thing I’ll add to the mix. If you do any kind of hauling where you’re thinking, hey, I would like to change the adjustability of said shock, the Rancho 9000s give you that adjustability. So if you’ve got a heavier load on the back and you’d like to add a little bit more stiffness to that particular situation, you can dial that shock in to be as stiff. They’ve got a 1 through 5 setting, and you can actually change that shock setting if you’d like on the Rancho 9000s. Okay, good. I’ve got a 24-foot RV. Then do the 9,000s. I’ll answer your question. Just do the 9,000s.
SPEAKER 09 :
How easy is it to get right to it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Just a little knob, piece of cake. You get right to it. And don’t do the – they make a remote adjustability thing, Bob, and they’re crap. Don’t do that. Okay. Just crawl underneath the truck for the little bit that you need to do it here and there. Just crawl underneath and adjust accordingly and call it good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, great.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks, John. You’re very welcome, Bob. Appreciate it very much. In fact, I’m just putting a set of those on my old 2004 Ram with my snowplow and everything on it. We’re finally deciding to change some things out on it, and we’re doing Rancho 9000s on that one. So there’s an example. Joe, you’re next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. Hey, I just wanted to give a shout-out to Geno’s. I’m a lady by myself, know nothing about cars. And my children kept saying, Mom, stop taking to the dealerships because they’re not doing you right. So I took down the Geno’s when the dealer told me to do all this stuff. And Geno’s said, You’re fine. There’s nothing wrong with it. And so I’ve been going ever since. She wouldn’t owe me. I’d bring in little treats to them.
SPEAKER 09 :
You’re one of those customers.
SPEAKER 06 :
We love you, Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I just wanted to say they’re just the nicest people to work with, and it’s so appreciated what they do, especially when you know nothing about a car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. That is awesome. Did you know that Ashley had to change her job?
SPEAKER 07 :
I did, and I was going to mention that and say that’s terrible.
SPEAKER 09 :
Her last two days, I spent her all the time. It was spent in tears. She was crying all the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, well, you never know. She may be back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, she misses people like you. I talk to her constantly. Actually, I was texting her this morning.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you guys are a blessing to me. Just wanted to let you know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
You are to us as well, Joe, for that. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, bye.
SPEAKER 06 :
We appreciate it very much. And, folks, by the way, there’s never a problem where if you don’t know, you know, Joe, I know nothing about cars. That’s why we’re here. That’s why we want you listening. That’s why we’re going to help you out the best that we can. And, yeah, we’re here to make you aware of the things that you need to be aware of because my feeling always has been, and I know these guys will agree, an educated customer is always the best customer. And I mean that sincerely. Some companies out there, by the way, would say, oh, we don’t want our people educated because I can’t take advantage of them if they’re educated. No, we’re the opposite. We want you educated because we want you knowing as much, if not more than we do, because we know if you’re educated, you will be a really great customer. And no, we are not going to take advantage of you. So that’s why we have no problem educating you. Did I say all that correctly? Yes. Guys, at the end of the day, we want you educated. That’s the bottom line. Tim and Aurora, you’re next.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. Hello. Hey, Tim. I have a question. I have an 03 Toyota Sequoia. I was having kind of a power steering noise, so I changed out the power steering pump, and then I followed the instructions to get the air out of the system, but it still has that kind of winding sound. Is there any other things I should try?
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m sorry. I was answering a text message. What is the vehicle again? I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s an 03 Toyota Sequoia.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sequoia. And you did, what did you do to the power steering?
SPEAKER 12 :
Replaced the power steering pump because it seemed like the noise was coming from the power steering pump.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how have you bled it? What’s been your procedure to do so?
SPEAKER 12 :
Just before I started the vehicle, I turned it right to left about 30, 40 times and then would fill up the…
SPEAKER 06 :
the um power steering reservoir okay so the way to bleed those properly is to lift the front wheels off the ground so take the pressure off of the system yeah and that’s what i did and then just you know fire it up and crank it left right left right stop stop stop stop and you do that for i don’t know in some cases tim you’ve got to go back and forth back and forth for a little bit i’ve seen some of them take you know anywhere from 10 15 minutes of doing that back and forth to get all the air out
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. But did you have this noise before, though? I just, it would do it when it was cold, the noise and stuff, and that’s why, and then it just went consistently to that same noise, and then when I replaced it, it still had the noise after bleeding it, but maybe I still had some air in the systems. Is that what you’re thinking, or?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I’m actually thinking that maybe you were getting some air in the system before, and now you’ve made it even better. Because sometimes just the seals, they’ll pull a little air in those pumps, and you’ll get air in there, and then you’re creating these little noises and stuff. It’s a pretty common problem, but on the Sequoia, I think that’s got pretty good copper rings that seal. I would double-check that the suction hose is good and tight, too. Good point. Those kind of things.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what fluid are you using, Tim?
SPEAKER 12 :
I use the Dextron 2, which is what the book recommended.
SPEAKER 06 :
I would also, just to see if it helps because it might, is add some of the BG power steering conditioner to the system. You may very well see that, fix that, and it’s an easy thing to do. Just put some BG conditioner in it.
SPEAKER 12 :
It wouldn’t be anything with the steering component, and this doesn’t have a rack and pinion, but it would be anything. I highly doubt it. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Highly doubt it. And by the way, that conditioner will help even with the seals in that old gear and stuff, so you’re not going to hurt anything by using it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Okay. Awesome. I appreciate your help.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re very welcome. Yeah, and if that doesn’t go away, Tim, send me a text or something and see if I can’t maybe help with that a little bit more, but let me know. Gary, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, hi, John. How are you? Good, Gary. How are you? Good. This is not related to autos, but I know you’re a business coach and you have a lot of your own businesses.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I’m guessing you’re a guest there or you’re a co-host as well. And as you know, I’m a government employee, and I guess I just want to say something for your audience. You probably know how difficult it is when you need to let someone go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, you know, I’m going through that. I’m probably going to be one of the people that are fired, and I don’t like it. I don’t consider myself a victim. It’s just life.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. The thing that I think a lot of government employees are dealing with is the way, especially Musk and to some extent Trump, are sort of expressing so much happiness about how they’re just firing people, you know, with the chainsaw and all of that. And that’s not something you would do.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I mean, to your point, it’s always difficult for me because, again, family-owned businesses, and that’s all I’ve ever had my entire life. And you get to know people very well. They become a part, really, of your family and letting folks go. Gary, even those that you may not have even liked or they did something that put them in that position of having to fire them, never an easy spot. For me, personally, never an easy spot. Hated it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and that’s all I wanted to say. I’ve had to do that, too. I’ve been a boss before.
SPEAKER 06 :
It sucks.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just want maybe your audience to maybe understand that we all agree that we need to cut.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I agree. I agree with you on that, too, Gary. It’s never a fun spot to be in, either side.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re right. I appreciate that. And, Gary, whatever happens next, I know you’re a smart guy. You’re going to do fine either way.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah, I’ll stay on my feet.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re fine. You’re a smart guy. You could consult others on tax stuff and probably be fine. yep thanks john you’re a good man gary appreciate you very much yeah i appreciate gary saying that you know firing people is never easy and i get there’s a lot of theatrics in politics when it comes to these things and uh gary’s one of the good ones by the way there’s a lot of federal workers out there that frankly are not and gary is not one of those so and gary let me know how things go if you need any help even on the side by all means send me a message text or email and happy to help any way i can i appreciate you’ve been a great listener for decades and I appreciate Gary greatly. So, Gary, whatever you need, please reach out and let me know. We’ll be back. Hour number three is next. Sorry, Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 18 :
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