This episode is a treasure trove for movie enthusiasts as John Rush guides listeners through a lively discussion centered around animated films, particularly focusing on the latest sensation, Nezha 2. The episode unravels the mythological themes embedded within the film, offering insights into its cultural significance and cinematic achievements. The hosts bring forth engaging conversations that touch upon the technical brilliance of animation and the storytelling prowess that keeps the audience enthralled.
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It’s finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I’m a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he’s going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won’t be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that coming. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
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I think you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
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What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
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Gee, Ray, what do you want to do tonight?
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The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I’m done.
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Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
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And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Switch things up a little bit because we normally do movie reviews in the first hour, but we’re doing them here in the second hour this particular week, which, by the way, works out really well because you may be listening to a replay of this because Andy and I are going to be gone over the Labor Day weekend. So you’re probably going to hear this again. So it probably fits perfectly that way.
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Yep. I’m going to be in the Midwest doing Midwestern things.
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And I’m heading south. You’re heading south. I always head south. You know me. I head south. Oh, yes. I don’t head north. I head south.
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John likes the warm. I like the cold.
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I have vowed if I ever move, it will not be any farther north. I’m far enough already.
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You coward.
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Yeah, I know. Hey, you moved south.
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Yeah.
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You did.
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I have.
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I’ve done that. You came south.
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Look, I mean, and besides which, it’s not like I don’t vacation in the south, too. I do.
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Yeah, I just, I’m sorry, Andy. I just, you know, I’ve lived here my whole life, and when I go places, I want to be warm.
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I know.
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You love the one. Just the way it is. So question of the day for those of you that maybe follow up on these, and I’m glad that a lot of you do and a lot of you answer these on a pretty routine basis. Andy, probably get this one right off the bat. This was yesterday’s. What was the first movie to make $1 billion? Which, by the way, keeping in for inflation and so on, this was a big dollar amount back in the day. Which one was it, Andy?
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Wow. I have not thought about it. No. What was it? Titanic. Titanic. You know, I should have thought of that. I mean, I knew it made a billion, but I thought there was something before that. That was the first one.
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That was the first one. And if you think about when that was and what that value is today, that was huge.
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Yeah, and as people may know, I was managing movie theaters. At the time, I was managing in the Midwest.
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Meaning you saw, because Charlie mentioned this yesterday, some people, women especially, probably saw that movie, what, three, four, five times? All women.
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All women. Guys, virtually no guys went to that movie. Okay, and I’m sorry, but it’s true. Women dragged them in once, and then the women went back to it 50 times. They would literally brag to each other and to their friends. I’ve been to it 25 times. I’ve been to it 28 times.
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That’s why it made so much money.
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Yeah.
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And it did make a boatload. Okay, impossible question for today, which I’ll give you the answer to here in a minute or two. Maybe I’ll do it this way. Just because we know we’re going to replay this particular hour, I’ll give you the answer in our last segment of today’s show. We’ll do it that way of today’s hour. Which country cuisine or which country’s cuisine is the most popular in the world? Which country’s cuisine is the most popular in the world? Not the U.S. In the world. In the world. That is the question of the day.
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Well, I would say China.
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Okay. That’s Andy’s guess. And we’ll come back to that again in the last segment. I’ll give you guys the answer then. And, again, appreciate that very much, by the way. Appreciate you guys all listening and answering and going online and doing that, which we appreciate very greatly as well. All right, Andy, what two movies today? I know we talked about this before, but what are two movies today? Because, again, some folks may be listening to this as a replay. So what movies are we going to come back and do?
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Okay, we’re going to do Nezha 2, and this is a Chinese cartoon, and it’s already the top-selling cartoon internationally of all time.
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And it’s pronounced, spell it. It isn’t how it looks, by the way.
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Yeah, it looks like Nezha, N-E-Z-A-H-A, Z-H-A. So N-E-Z-H-A, and it’s pronounced Nezha, Nezha.
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Okay, Nezha. Okay, and then relay. All right, we’ll come back and get started on that. Up next, Paul Leuenberger, my good friend, by the way. And I mean good friend. He really is. He’s a great guy. He would love to take care of you when it comes to your insurance needs. He’ll do anything. He’s a broker now. So when it comes to your home, your auto, bundling, whatever it is that you need, and he’ll help you save money at the same time. 303-662-0789.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John, a 2019 international hit gets a 2025 sequel in Nerja 2.
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Demon, you are my son.
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Time to cut you down to size! Huh?
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He’s not exactly your average kid. Naja! Mom! You must be brave and walk your own path.
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We will change my destiny!
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Sounds pretty intense, doesn’t it? It does. Yeah. All right. Well, already the most successful international animated film of all time. And now it comes to America. And, of course, it’s dubbed over. I will tell you right now, the dubbing is so-so.
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Okay.
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Okay, the dubbing is so-so. But it’s good enough. You know what’s going on.
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That’s fine.
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All right, John, there are two key characters here. So let’s lay it out. First of all, Nerja is a demon child born of the demon orb. All right. And just so you know, demons are different in Chinese mythology than like the Bible. So it’s a little bit different being a demon. You’re still in the downside, but it’s not quite the same. Okay. And the other character from Nirjah is Ao Bing. All right. Ao Bing is born of a spirit pearl. and he’s son of the Dragon King. So supposedly he’s on the good side, Neerja is on the bad side, but it kind of gets mixed up who’s good, who’s bad in this thing. Okay, Neerja, I’ll bang. And they became friends in the first film. Now, having been destroyed by a divine lightning bolt in the first film, Nerja and Aubain are now ghostly spirits. But Master Taiyi uses a sacred lotus to resurrect their bodies. But before the process can be completed, a rival attacks at the wrong time. So it disrupts the entire ceremony. Well, Aubain must leap into Nerja’s body and share his body. So going forward, John, they literally must work together. That’s kind of interesting. Now, Nerja must complete… I’m sorry, he’s got to complete trials. Working with Master Tai Ye to find a life-saving elixir to form a new body for Ao Bing. Sorry, it gets a little hard pronouncing all these.
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I understand. You’re fine.
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All along, they must deal with their parents fighting each other. Their parents hate each other. They’re from, obviously, warring clans, correct? And yet, they are the best friends. In surviving these trials, Nerja and Albing hope to save the lives of both Celestial and the Dragon Clans, their two clans, while becoming worthy of immortality. Well, there are fun moments, of course, such as when Nerja pops sleeping pills so Albing can drive. He can take over. So… Nerja literally knocks himself out with sleeping pills so Albing can take over. And many biases exist since there are those who would never help a demon like Nerja. Now, this is all made funnier because Nerja is an emotional fireball. You just heard him there screaming. He does that a lot. While Albing is very, very calm and relaxed. And so having them bounce back and forth in the same body is fun. It… Well, I’ll just say it throws people off. They’re like, you were just this way, now you’re this way. Okay. Above all, we’re watching a war on many levels play out with the most elaborate CGI cartoonistry ever assembled. This just grows and grows and grows and grows, and it culminates in a great battle. And that’s all I’m going to tell you about Nerja 2. What do you think?
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Sounds good.
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All right. Well, what works in Nerja 2? John, I got no other way to put this. It is an absolute visual feast. Unlike any I have ever seen.
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Really?
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Ever. Ever. How many movies have I seen? Over 100 a year, right? This is the most beautiful cartoon I’ve ever witnessed. The battle scenes, both one-on-one and the war battles, are incredible. It’s like a Lord of the Rings upgrade, almost. It’s just unbelievable watching what they do. And especially in the second half of the movie, it seems like… I’ll say the last two-thirds of the movie. It just seems like… Every couple scenes, they blow you away in a different way with a whole different kind of look. And you’re just like, oh my gosh, what comes next? What comes next? What comes next? How are they going to top this? Then they top it. How are they going to top that? Then they top it. And you’re already far beyond anything you’ve ever seen in Pixar. OK. OK. I mean, this is just incredible stuff. Next. This is not about modern China. Just so people understand, because modern China is America’s challenger in the world stage. They’re our enemy. So I’m sure a lot of people think about this and they think modern China. I hate them. Well, this isn’t about modern China. This is about a key character in Chinese mythology. Nezha is from Chinese mythology. They both are. And that’s what it’s about. It’s an ancient story, not a modern statement. It’s kind of like Mulan. Does that make sense? There are some really good plot twists and tense moments, some stuff you won’t see coming. And that’s very good. The main characters, the two main characters are very interesting. They’re good characters. And, you know, they’re kind of like, John, they’re kind of like a supernatural odd couple. And that’s kind of fun. This is a very supernatural movie. And finally, the second half really intensifies and builds interest. The last quarter is really, really strong. The last quarter is pretty much five-star all the way across. Okay, what doesn’t work in Nezha 2? It’s got an uneven tone. You’ve got gas jokes for kids in a film that is far more adult than kids. And that’s kind of like, eh, this doesn’t really work. Why don’t you just go with the adult? In fact, this should have been made solely for adults. Not sexual, but just tonally.
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Right, right, right.
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Gotcha. But China’s different. And this is something Luke and I have talked about often. Chinese, in the Orient, in Asia, they don’t protect their kids from content the way we do. And so adult content for kids is not a big deal. Right. It’s much more normal. And so what I’m telling people is this. Understand you are seeing something that. is much more for the orient okay it’s it’s much more for chinese eyes they don’t mind mixing little kid humor with these adult themes they feel perfectly fine with that whereas we feel it’s uneven okay next the humor generally doesn’t land okay maybe it’s a cultural thing maybe it’s just cultural humor i don’t know but it wasn’t funny john Most of it. And whenever they try to be funny, the story slows down. It slows down the story. Now, that’s a real problem because of the next problem. It’s too long. At two hours and 23 minutes. Even for an epic, that is too long. I think it’s made for the attention span of Chinese kids, not ours.
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Okay.
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I really do. And here’s a big problem. There’s an awful lot going on. They could have edited out several characters completely, John, and simplified. But you know why they couldn’t? I think because this is basically sacred to them. And even though this is just really an elaborate cartoon and it’s got a lot of fun in it and some incredible battles and so forth, I think that they felt that they got to leave everything in because of how important it is to their story. But they could have cut a battle or two. It just needed less. It’s not that it was hard to follow. I could follow it just fine. But rather that it just added too many side plots. What do side plots do? They slow down the movie. You only want a side plot if it adds. Right. You want that Steve Buscemi character only if he’s adding and making the movie better.
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Correct.
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That’s why you put him in there.
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Otherwise, leave him out.
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Yeah. Otherwise, leave him out. It needed more focus on the two main characters. Finally, the first half, it seems to drone on, John. It really does. Because, I don’t know, you know, when you’re watching a movie and it’s just like, OK, the jokes aren’t really hitting. And, yeah, there’s a lot of really good fights and there’s a lot of good action and great cartoonistry. But I don’t care about the story right now. It’s not doing much for me. It takes a while to pick up. No, and it does. It does. But it takes too long. And really, they’re discussing too many characters. Again, this movie needed focus. That’s the biggest thing that Nirja needed. Nirja, too. Sorry. Needed was focus. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes gave Nirja 94%. Okay. Okay. And I’ll be honest, I’m not going to go that high, but it is hard to give it a bad grade just because of what you are witnessing on the screen. And at first you’re thinking, oh, it’s not that impressive. And it just builds and builds and builds. And then you’re seeing more and more, and it’s really incredible. Quality, I’m going to give this three and a half stars. And that’s almost entirely just for the look of this movie.
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Is that good?
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Well, it’s the best I’ve ever seen.
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Wow.
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And I’ve seen everything.
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Wow.
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Okay, Lord of the Rings and incredible cartoonistry and all this kind of stuff. I have never seen anything on this level, on this scope. Wow. I have not. And also, I will say the story down the stretch comes together and is very interesting. Okay. It just takes too long getting there. Political. Three. More religious. Okay. I guess four because it’s got good family things, you know, standing for your family, standing up for your family. However, it also tells adults, hey, let the kids grow up on their path too. And that’s a good, I like that moral. That’s good moral. Yeah. So there you go. Do I recommend going to NERJA 2? Folks, it’s got to be for you. You know what I’m saying? But I will say this. If you just want to see something unlike anything you’ve ever seen, go to NERJA 2 and be patient through the first half.
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Okay. Good enough. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. And Al did a great interview of late. Stay tuned. Listen in. You can always find Al at klzradio.com. We’ll be back right after that.
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CJ with KLZ. And again, I am with Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial. Al, we talk a lot about how relational you are with your clients. Why don’t you take us through what an initial visit might look like, whether that’s in the office or over a Zoom call or whatever that is. What does that look and feel like for one of your clients?
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Well, first we kind of get to know one another a little bit, have a little bit of small talk. And once we move slightly beyond that, I often ask a question, what is your and your spouse’s greatest concerns as you move into toward retirement?
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What do you think people’s main fear is when they come to see you and how do you help to quell that with them?
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Many of the people who come in have been listening to me on the radio for years. And often there is some event that the reason they want to talk to me. Maybe they have concerns about taxes. It may be they’re concerned about the volatility of the stock market. And so by asking them about their concerns, we can zero in specifically. Because usually people have something on the back of their minds as the reason that they came in rather than having a cookie cutter form that I complete for everybody. I try and dive in more specifically to what is an individual or a couple’s primary concern that brought them in the office.
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We love that relational aspect and we love Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial. Al, why don’t you tell folks how to get in touch with you for that meeting?
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Easy way, 303-744-1128. If you’re driving, you can reach me through KLZ. KLZ has all my contact information. And once you reach out to them, they will reach out to me and I will contact you by phone or email so that we can have that conversation, whether it’s on a Zoom or a long phone conversation or here at the office.
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Excellent, Al. Thanks for joining us. Of course, you can find Al on klzradio.com slash money. Al, thank you so much. Well, thank you, TJ.
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And welcome back to Rush Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John. Well, a company, let’s say a company does something wrong and someone finds out. It’s blackmail time, right? True. But who plays the middleman to keep the blackmailer safe? You ever think about that? Because it’s not like the blackmailer can just do it on their own very easily. Usually they need some help. Well, let’s watch a real industry in Relay.
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My name is Sarah Grant. I’m in possession of evidence of an unlawful cover-up.
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There are a number of whistleblower support organizations.
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No, I just want to give
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There are official channels, but there are unofficial ones.
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Who is he?
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I help people who see things they shouldn’t have, who maybe should have looked the other way, but they can’t.
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I’ve never met him. That’s kind of the point. It’s a messaging service. They call you back.
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This is the Tri-State Relay Service.
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What is that? It’s a hearing-assisted device for the deaf.
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The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 prohibits relay operators from disclosing the content of any relayed conversation.
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The person who’s called you will type their conversation and I’ll read it to you. No calls are recorded and everything you say is confidential.
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There’s a van parked out front. I think they’re watching me.
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They may try to scare you. They may try to make a deal. This is the only deal. We are not bodyguards. We are intermediaries. We can help you return the documents whilst maintaining leverage to protect you.
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Has it ever gone wrong? Sometimes we have to walk away. Are you lonely?
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I recommend we keep communication to a minimum. Do you have the packages?
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Yes.
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We got a guy.
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They know who you are. You’re in big danger. Why’d you do this for me?
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This is my job.
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All right, John, what do you think of Relay? I’ve seen previews. It actually looks and sounds really good.
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It does, doesn’t it? Okay. Lily James, who I love, by the way. I’ve always liked her a lot. She plays Sarah, a former employee for a major food chain. Well, Sarah has discovered that a new GMO strain causes cancer, and now she’s running for her life. You know how it is. You go to your company. Hey, should we really be doing this? Before you know it, you’re on the edge of losing your job. Then you’ve lost your job, and they’re coming after you. It’s terrible. Well, who does she turn to, John? She turns to Ash. played by Riz Ahmed, and he’s a blackmailer who is a recluse. Now, Ash serves as an intermediary between people who get dirt on companies and the companies paying them off. There are serious steps taken to maintain anonymity and safety. One of those is the main step, really, is using a telephone relay service. You can type or speak, but the operator relays your message in their voice. Nothing is recorded. Everything is deleted because of the ADA from 1990. And that makes sense. too right okay so because somebody else is involved you have to delete all of it and that’s the beauty of using this service if you’re going to blackmail people gotcha all right well think about it if your job is arranging blackmail against powerful multi-billion dollar companies what will they do to catch you a lot yeah i mean you have to keep mine a lot on the line Yeah, let’s say that you were blackmailing Google and you had caught them. What kind of resources would they have, John, to go after you? Squash you like a bug. Endless, right? There’s no limit to what they could do. They hire trackers, the best surveillance, and henchmen everywhere, obviously all the best tech, all to get the guy behind the relay. That’s what they want to do. Just as there’s an industry for relayers, there’s also an industry for high-tech assassins hunting them down. Does this make sense? I’ve never even thought of this. It’s pretty cool. Well, before long, both Ash and Sarah, they’re on the run. But Sarah doesn’t see Ash. All right. He’s watching her from a distance. Ash is watching Sarah. Now, it’s not because he’s some sick peeping Tom, but he’s watching the team that’s trailing her. All right. He’s making sure she’s OK. And as he watches Sarah, though, he does become a little enamored with her beauty. Come on. It’s Lily James. OK. And he has to stay professional, but it gets a little tough. Let’s face it. She’s Foxy. She’s Lily James. Well, problem is, mistakes do get made. And this team tracking them down, that team is really good, John. So it’s a fight for survival against corporate hunters in Relay. What do you think?
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Sounds good to me. It does sound good, actually.
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Yeah, I like the plot line.
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I love these kind of movies.
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Well, what works in Relay, that’s the first thing, the plot line. Right away. I mean, when you hear that, it just sounds, not only does it sound good, but John, have you ever heard that one before?
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No.
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It’s new. I like new. Right. Well, it’s a fascinating premise. Good acting all around. Sam Worthington, you know him. He’s excellent as Dawson, leading a team to catch Ash and Sarah. Lily James is always a standout. She’s always good. And Riz Ahmed, he brings this quirky charm to the starring role. I hadn’t seen him in this kind of a role before. I liked it. Willa Fitzgerald, I don’t know if you know her. She’s a very pretty girl. She’s also really good in this. Now, here’s another thing. Excellent plot twists. It keeps making it harder, all right? Because you’re trying to pull this off and get it done. Keep her safe. Keep you safe. Get the payment done and get out of there, right? It keeps getting harder. I’ll just say that. It’s very cerebral. That’s a good thing about the movie Relay. Very cerebral. I like that. Lots of cat and mouse. Lots of moving chess pieces on the board, right? How do I stay one step ahead of them? And finally, there’s a real good side story about Ash attending AA meetings to stay sober. It’s good stuff. I really like that. And, you know, cause he’s been through it and now he wants to make a difference. Okay. What doesn’t work in relay? Well, Oh, John, it takes far too long to get going. All right. It’s too tedious. The second half of the movie is much better than the first. In fact, I would say the second half of the movie is at least four star. All right. The ending just trails off. It’s explosive for a bit, then kind of poof. All right. But still, that’s all right. There’s some implausible action in this. You know me. I hate this. Don’t take me out of the moment. Make it look like it could actually happen within whatever genre you’re in. Right. Well, the shooting that should have hit more. I don’t like that. There are times where he’s too much in the open and they’re shooting at him and they’re not hitting him. It’s kind of like, no, I don’t think so. Ash is chased at one point and eludes the hit squad, but it seems like they should catch him several times. I didn’t like that. There’s a fight in close quarters that is going far too well for the good guys. That’s just implausible, too. I didn’t like that. See, while I like Riz Ahmed, I think that’s what it is, A-H-M-E-D, Ahmed. Sounds right. Yeah. While I like him, John, he’s not very charismatic for a leading man. Just kind of there. Now, he is quirky, and I did like that, but he’s just not great. For a leading man. He’s just pretty good. All right. Rotten Tomatoes. They gave this movie 84%. They like this movie. I like it too. But because of the first half, I’m going to grade it down to three stars. Worth seeing. And by the way, for me, it was three and a half. But that’s because I like the cerebral thing of it. I like all the cat and mouse. I’m kind of into that. I don’t think everybody is. I think there are people who are going to want more action. There is action, but there are people who are going to want more of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Political three doesn’t say a thing. Moral religious. Well, maybe political. Take it down to two and a half.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think there’s a touch of wokeness, just a touch. Moral, religious, three for the genre. All right. It says nothing. Do I recommend going to Relay? You know what, Johnny, do? It is August. It’s late August. And this is actually a surprisingly good movie for this time of year. It’s interesting. It’s fun. It’s got good plot twists. It keeps you going. It just takes a while to get going.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Relay. Easy enough. All right. And that’s it for movie reviews. We’ve got… A little bit of time here. So I’ll tell you what, Andy, let’s do this. We’re going to replay. No secrets here. We’re going to replay this particular hour as we head into the Labor Day weekend. Andy and I will both be gone. And frankly, some of you may be as well. So also say this. If you’re new and you’re traveling through and you’re just now hearing us, we do movie reviews every Friday. But the rest of the week, we talk everything from… Local politics, national politics, world politics, what’s going on in all those different stages. We talk about health and wellness. We get into all sorts of different topics. It’s not just political theater here on Rush to Reason. We get into a lot of fun, crazy stuff, and we have a lot of fun doing it. So if you’re just traveling through, maybe new to Colorado, or you picked us up for whatever reason, you can keep listening to us, by the way. We have an app, KLZ Radio. You can listen to us anywhere in the world, literally, where it’s allowed. Maybe not China, but you can listen to us pretty much anywhere that app is available.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think we’re forbidden there.
SPEAKER 06 :
We might be. Some of the things we talk about with China, we might very well be. But we are conservative Christian talk. We are heavy on the conservative side. We are definitely Christians, Andy and I, but we are not a Christian station. We are still a secular station. So while we get into some of that, that is not our main focus because we’re a secular radio station. So you guys all know what that means with FCC radio. And all of that. So we still have free speech. We talk about whatever we want to. We get into a lot of things along those lines. But if you’re traveling through and you want to keep listening to us, which we would hope you would, you can listen to us on the KLZ app or go to KLZRadio.com. If you’re at a computer, workstation, whatever, you can listen to us that way as well. And by the way, you can also go to all of the different podcast places, find all of our recordings and so on, and our website, RushToReason.com. So, all right, Andy, knowing all of that. Yeah. For people that might be just traveling through and listening to some of the different movie reviews that we’ve had today, and they’re listening to us as a replay, go really quick. Go through, you know, quality is easy. We already know what you think of on the quality side. But talk about for a moment the political and moral side, because that’s different in what we do with movie reviews than what they’re going to hear some other reviewer talking about.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, the reason I go into quality and… I break it down into quality, then political, then moral, religious. And I don’t do that so I can preach. I don’t do that so I can go off politically and make all kinds of political statements. I actually do it because I want to separate out the political message and the moral, religious message out of the quality. Why? Because I’m separating out bias. Right. Okay. And. The reason I have to do that is because if you read up on a lot of the movie critics who are out there, Rotten Tomatoes, a lot of people look at Rotten Tomatoes, get the score. That score is comprised of easily 95% to 98% hardline liberals. Right. The vast majority. Okay, so these people come from a very strong bench.
SPEAKER 06 :
Meaning it’s very biased.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very biased. Now, that’s okay. I have no problem. Hey, whatever your beliefs are, they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s fine. You know what you’re up against.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t say that out of any anger or hate, but what I do say is this. That means that that is going to weigh heavily on their beliefs, on what they think of a movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
In other words, a very woke movie. Right. They’re going to grade very high. Yes. Where a lot of us and folks that are in our audience may very well look at that movie and downgrade it significantly because, frankly, it’s not what they want to pay to see.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Okay. So, for instance, let’s say a woke movie comes out, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Barney. Barney.
SPEAKER 09 :
Barbie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Great example. Especially this last year, probably one of the biggest examples.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Barbie was a man hating film. Okay, I’m sorry, but that’s what it was. And it was… the most intensely anti-man agenda movie I had seen in a long time. Now, did I say Barbie is a terrible movie because it offends me and I’m angry and I’m going to say it’s a terrible movie and give it zero stars for quality? No, I gave it an average score. I think I gave it three.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want to say three, three and a half. I have to go back and look, but yeah, maybe three and a half.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t know. It was an average to a little above average movie. That’s what I gave it. It was not a high quality movie. Why? Because of the agenda? No, because it wasn’t that funny.
SPEAKER 06 :
It just wasn’t that great of a movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And it also didn’t hold together very well at times.
SPEAKER 06 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. This happens a lot when you’re trying to preach with your movie. You’re not entertaining as much. But I did say when it came out, I said, look, this is going to sell like gangbusters because it’s telling one half of the human race to hate the other half of the human race. You’re going to get a lot of people to go watch that movie. True. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I said, it’s going to pack the seats. And by the way, the seats were packed about 90% with women.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then men, they drag there. OK, I’m sorry, but that’s the way it is now. Then I gave it my political score, which was probably zero, I would assume. And moral religious had to be pretty low, too. This is what I do. The reason I separate out the political and the moral religious is twofold. First of all, to warn you about these things. Right. Because conservative Christians, hey, man, they need a little warning. Hey, you’re going to get bashed in this movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
One other thing I want to add to that, again, for those of you that may be traveling through and listening to us and thinking, well, you guys do movie reviews a little bit different than I’ve ever heard. Yes, we do. Because the other thing Andy does very well at is when it’s a kid’s movie, for example, which reviewers don’t do, he’ll talk about how kids either will like, won’t like, parents will like, won’t like. You add all that into the review. I break it up. You break it all up, which works out really well because parents want to know, what am I going to go see?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Parents want to know, first of all, is this going to be offensive in some way? Is it going to be really trying to steer my kids? And a couple of movies have come out recently that did just that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
They’re also going to be wondering, am I going to enjoy this? Am I going to have any fun with my kid or should I have my phone ready so I can check the scores? You know, so I do break it up. Okay, the kids are going to think this of it. You’re going to think this of it. It’s going to be. And one last thing. A lot of movie reviewers review movies based on how much they like the film.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Not what the audience may like.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. I never. In fact, I often separate out what I think and what I think.
SPEAKER 06 :
You and I do that a lot. Absolutely. Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
I never give my final score based on how much I will like the movie, but rather on general audiences, what I think general audiences are going to think of the movie. So a lot of times I’ll say of a movie, you know what, just so you know, this guy movie, this Nobody 2 that just came out, I’m only going to give it three and a half for general audiences. For me, it was four, four and a half.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, F1’s a great example. I would have looked at that as a four and a half star movie. Most would probably look at that as a four star movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I didn’t see it as a five, but pretty good, strong movie. I really enjoyed it. But if you’re not really into cars like I am, and again, for those of you maybe just traveling through for the first time, I’m a big car guy. I have a show on Saturday’s Drive Radio I’ve done for over two decades, and I’m a car guy. So I liked that movie, and I did the same thing when you and I reviewed that together. I gave it a four and a half, saying that was my position on the movie. General audience is going to be more like a four.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you were a four.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I actually kind of liked it more than a 4.2, but I felt for general audiences it’s a little too slow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it wasn’t Top Gun Maverick.
SPEAKER 06 :
But that’s a great example of what we do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. And, you know, one other really quick one, and then we’ll go to break here. You’re fine. Take your time. Weapons. I believe the best movie of the year so far was Weapons, and it’s a horror movie that came out about three weeks ago. Right. Weapons is outstanding, okay? Yeah. But while I gave it a strong four stars, I didn’t go higher than that because I think there are people in the general audience who would not enjoy it. And I got to look at the entire audience as a whole.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
For horror fans, I think, Weapons is an incredible example of combining a mystery with really cool effects and cool storytelling with the horror. And it’s really good. If you want to see a movie that’s just…
SPEAKER 06 :
blow you away weapons is the best one of the year but that doesn’t mean it’s going to be your best one okay great uh great answer andy thank you for that very much and again those of you listening you can always go back to our recordings our podcast you could say we take every single show we record there are recorded we then put those up out on the internet they’re in a podcast type setting if you would on all the podcast delivery systems that are out there you can find us there you can also find us on our website rush to reason.com but up next roof savers of colorado If you’re looking for anything when it comes to your roof, saving the life of, in other words, the extension of the life of, saving that roof and making it last longer, replacing the roof, commercial roofs, Dave does it all. He’s going to join me tomorrow on Fix It Radio, by the way. He’s with us on a pretty routine basis, and that’s a program we do on Saturdays from 9 to 10, and then followed up by Drive Radio from 10 to 1. But Roof Savers of Colorado, give Dave a call, 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 06 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Our last segment here as we head out into the weekend, finish up this particular Friday. And again, if you guys are listening to us on a replay, thank you for that as well. And we’re trying to give you guys a little bit of feedback, even as some of you head into the Labor Day weekend, I should say. Different movies, Andy, maybe that folks might want to watch. Do you have a few?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, I mean, some of the ones I’m just talking about this summer that have come out.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s fine. Perfect. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Weapons is, I think, the best movie that’s come out this year. By the way, if you want to rent one that’s kind of fun, Novocaine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is a fun action.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did you see it? I’ve seen. I started. I need to finish it. Yes, I agree. It’s very funny.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s very bloody. But for funny reasons. This guy can’t feel pain. Correct. Yeah. Fantastic Four First Steps. Folks, I’m going to be honest. It’s a pretty good movie. Okay. So is Superman. If you didn’t go to Superman because the last several DC movies have had a depressed goth. Superman, this does not. It gets back to the formula. It gets back to a lighthearted kind of Superman. Is it great? No, but there hasn’t been a great movie this year, but it’s a good one. It’s worth watching. F1. I think Brad Pitt brings his star power to F1, and he just makes it worth seeing. And what are your thoughts on F1?
SPEAKER 06 :
For those of you that haven’t seen it… Because you’re a car guy. Yeah, for those of you that haven’t seen it, A, they’ve brought it back out again, I think, in turn for… Or in time. I should say not in time. But again, because of Labor Day weekend, they’ve brought it out again and kind of re-emphasized it. Yeah, it’s one of those movies where I saw it once. Would I see it again? Absolutely. I would watch it again. Probably even pick up some things in the second… seeing of the movie, Andy, the second viewing of the movie that I didn’t maybe pick up in the first viewing as a car guy, probably pick up a few little things that you didn’t see the first time around. Good movie. I mean, it’s one of those that, you know, it’s not Ford v. Ferrari good as a car movie is concerned. But not bad. And I say that because it’s just a different movie than Ford v. Ferrari. Ford v. Ferrari has more kind of, not wholly historically accurate, but it’s got more history and things like that. Carroll Shelby and the race between Ford and Ferrari and what’s happening at that time and so on. It’s just a different type of a movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it had bigger personalities, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
It really did. And I think that was the biggest difference is that Ford v. Ferrari had bigger personalities, and it also had the sale that you had to make, and it did it in a better way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it’s just in a different storyline and so on. Is F1 bad? No. No, no. Very, very good, solid movie. Even non-car people will enjoy the movie is the best way to say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I agree. Okay, a couple others here. 28 years later. It’s a very interesting kind of horror movie. Now, it’s got some horrifying images, but it doesn’t have as much horror. I know that’s kind of hard to say. But you know the zombie movies. That’s what 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, now 28 Years Later is actually quite good and artful. Karate Kid Legends.
SPEAKER 06 :
You liked that one.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was a surprisingly fun, good movie. Yeah, you liked it. Yeah, The New Kid. The biggest problem with Karate Kid Legends is that it took too long getting the old guys into it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you’ll know what I mean when you see it. Because you want more LaRusso and these guys. But was it a good movie? Yeah, it was a lot of fun. And I think it’s worth watching. Fight or flight? is a short kind of little action film, which is crazy action. I mean, if you just like crazy, crazy action, that one’s going to have it for you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is that quite a few there?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I guess, you know, ultimately, here’s the other thing I would recommend for folks. If you’re thinking, hey, I may go see a movie or go rent a movie through the weekend, you’ve got a long weekend. And in Colorado, we can, over Labor Day, have some maybe not-so-great weather where you might find yourself inside because of… you know, storms or what have you. And what I would recommend is you can always go to our website, again, RushToReason.com, and Producer Anne has even got some things set up where you can look at the movie reviews Andy does separately from everything else. So go check out the website. You can look there. She does a good job of taking what I take for notes. And then, you know, putting all of the things that Andy does the review on from the, you know, the quality of the movie, the moral, religious, the political side. We put all those scores in there. So you’ve got the ability to go back and look at those. And we’ve been doing these for gosh, Andy, how long have we been doing movie reviews? Eight, nine years. Yeah. A long time, folks. So now those all won’t be on, you know, on the website and on the Internet. But what I will tell you is a lot of them are Andy. Now, one thing else I will tell you. I have the ability to pretty much look up pretty much any movie that Andy has done. And a lot of you will text me and say, hey, I know Andy reviewed blah, blah, blah, but I missed three weeks ago or whatever the case may be. And you guys will text me and say, what was Andy’s score? I can look that up really quickly, even if I’m just on my phone. I can go to my show notes and actually look those up without even going to the website and usually look up within a few seconds as to what did Andy actually list X movie at. and I can always go and find that movie and tell you exactly what his scores were. So if any of you are ever wondering what did Andy think of XYZ movie, I can typically look that up and get you that score pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let me give a couple more here. If you like war movies, there’s one called Warfare that came out this year. It’s actually very good, very good. I think I gave it four stars. And if you want something that’s touching, kind of a tearjerker, but very warm and enjoyable, Bob Trevino likes it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you said that. Yeah, you did say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I gave that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s one movie I need to watch that. I haven’t watched it yet. it is basically that’s about a girl who’s looking for her dad right yep her estranged dad or something and then she thinks she’s found him yeah she through she goes through whatever a website or something and she thinks she finds who’s her dad but he’s not but yet they build a relationship right
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because he’s a really good guy, and she realizes, my gosh, this guy’s really nice, and he helps her through an awful lot. I was very impressed by that. Going back into March, I’m just going back month by month. Novocaine, which came out in March, that was a four-star movie. Folks, it’s funny and fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which one is that again?
SPEAKER 09 :
Novocaine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Novocaine. Oh, yeah, and that’s the one. I started that. I just need to take the time. For all of you listening, and some of you ask me this all the time, in the summertime, my wife and I together, I mean, I’ll bet you combined, Andy, if we watch one whole movie the entire summer. We actually went to the theater and saw F1, but outside of going to the theater, if we watch one whole movie through and through, we’re doing really well because we just have so many other projects and things that we’re typically working on outside.
SPEAKER 09 :
You really do, don’t you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just don’t watch a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
You two are constantly on the move.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I don’t watch a lot of TV during the summer months, so I’m not the guy to ask on some of this stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
By the way, don’t watch Captain America Brave New World. It’s pretty boring.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you said that wasn’t very good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not really, no. I mean, so, you know. Anyway, there you go. There’s a bunch of movies. All of them I gave three and a half or four stars.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So, you guys can always find, again, you can find those reviews. You can either text me. Again, those of you that are traveling through, even, you can always send us a text message, 307. Yes, that’s a Cheyenne, Wyoming area code, but it’s what I ended up with. So, 307-200. 8222. We are not in Wyoming. We are in Colorado, but I didn’t have a 303 area code available at the time, so that was the closest I could find. So 307-200-8222. You can always send me a text message. I can get you that answer as well. And then don’t forget, you can always go to the website RushToReason.com. You can check out all of Andy’s reviews there. And again, all of our other show notes are there as well. All right, we’ll take one last break. We’ll come back, get things wrapped up for today on this fantastic Friday. We’ll be right back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Let me give the other answer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
American?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, Italian.
SPEAKER 09 :
Italian?
SPEAKER 06 :
Italian. Mostly pizza and pasta is enjoyed by 84% of the world’s population.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I love pizza and pasta.
SPEAKER 06 :
Which is interesting because I don’t – don’t quote me on this. Charlie might know. Did Italians really invent pizza or was that an Italian-American thing that we actually came up with in this country, Charlie? Do you know the answer?
SPEAKER 09 :
I thought it was Italian-American.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what I meant. Yeah, Italian-American. I think you guys are correct on that. I don’t think that’s an – Yeah, pizza in Italy, Charlie just said, is very, very different. Yeah, they get it all wrong. Yeah, it’s not the way we do it. It’s not at all. And I think that’s an Italian-American thing. It’s interesting that that’s now enjoyed by 84%. So in a way, Andy, you’re right on the American thing because pizza is an American-flavored Italian dish. It’s really not Italian.
SPEAKER 09 :
Really quick here. I forgot. I had one more four-star movie this year. It was back in January. I don’t know if it’s still on Netflix. It was. It’s called Number 24. Okay. And it’s a Norwegian biographical film that tells the story of a resistance fighter named Gunnar Sonstaby. Gunnar Sonstaby. And he is the hero of Norway. He fought the Nazis. Anyway, folks, it’s actually very, very good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Number 24.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I gave it four stars.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, number 24. All right, folks, that’s going to do it for today. We’ll get things wrapped up. Have a fabulous weekend today. It’s a live program on the 22nd of August, but this will replay as well as we head into the Labor Day weekend. So most importantly, have a great Labor Day weekend. But I’ll see you tomorrow morning. Fix It Radio, 9 o’clock in the morning. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Bye. The Rich Guy.
