HR2 The Mitochondria, And Nutrition 8-6-25 by John Rush
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Welcome back, listeners. It’s actually Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush this Health and Wellness Wednesday with special guest Reagan Kirstein. Sorry, I got my tongue tied there for a second. Reagan is one of our employees at our office. I gave his bio in the first hour, so it was long. We’re not going to rehash that. If anybody wants to go back and listen to the first hour, just go to 560KLZ, Rush to Reason. This should be posted later tonight. Reagan, you gave a great dissertation on why is it important to exercise? What is VO2 max? What is heart rate variability? Things you will never hear out of your doctor’s mouth if you go to a regular doc in the box ever. Why is it important? What is… a biologic age versus chronologic age why does that matter because one thing that you’re going to learn is john’s audience is highly intelligent and i don’t say this as a platitude i mean it’s just the truth um because most guys would be afraid to talk about these subjects for fear of oh my audience doesn’t want to hear this The converse is actually true with this audience. They want to know what is it? Why are you telling me that I need to do this? And just explain it to them. They’re not dumb people. And then once you explain it to them, it’s like, okay, I get it. Now give me some tips on how I can do this. And I’ll guarantee you tomorrow when we’re on the phones at the office, they’re going to light up and we’re going to have a lot of people. Thank you very much. You’re right. Nobody’s ever explained this to me. And I’m going to implement those tips. And by the way, how do I get this biologic age thing? How can I test and see? Because you guys talk about it like it’s an ordinary blood test or an You’re a kid, the biomarkers. So how can somebody actually test their biologic age, what we’ve been talking about?
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Testing our glycogen age. So it’s pretty fascinating. But if you come down to our office, we’re just starting to offer a glycogen age test. And it’s just a simple fingerprint, excuse me, finger prick, just four drops of blood. And it assesses what? How many markers do you remember? I don’t remember the exact number now.
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Sorry.
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I think it’s a lot of markers. And just looking at genomics, epigenetics, a bunch of big fancy science terms to tell you and estimate on how your body is compared to the average person and what age you’d fall into.
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Yeah, exactly. And you can actually reverse this with the things that we’re talking about. And that’s why this is so important because if we can reverse your body’s clock, then that’s more years of health to enjoy kids, grandkids, the things that you want to do. If you’re schlepping away working until you’re hoping to get 65 and get a retirement – Well, what happens when your body’s breaking down at that point in time? It’s like, geez, I killed myself to get a 401k, but now my body and my mind are not in a position where I can actually enjoy it. That really sucks. So we’re doing things to try and give you tips to keep you as good and better than what you think you can be. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, so now we were talking about mitochondria. Yes. I already told you this is a very smart audience. Now, I don’t want you to geek out on me like this is medical school and we’re talking physics class or something like that. But basically, what is mitochondria?
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Great question. So if you guys think back to your school days, you may remember hearing the mitochondria being the powerhouse or power plant of the cell. It’s what powers everything else in your cell. So think of your body like a city and each house in that city is a cell. Inside each house, there’s going to be a furnace or some type of generator. That’s the mitochondria. So it’s Powering just that individual house, but every single house needs one to function properly. And so how mitochondria work is they produce something called ATP, adenosine triphosphate. ATP, just to keep it simple. That’s our energy currency in our body. So ATP is used to power all sorts of processes from DNA repair to cellular respiration. Anything your cell needs to do, ATP, that energy currency, will do it.
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Now, in the first hour, you were talking about glycogen. So how does that come into play with ATP?
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Absolutely. So they kind of work synergistically together. You can’t have one without the other. Both our glycogen and oxygen, our cardiovascular systems, and our Krebs cycle, which produces ATP, all work together to use various energy systems and stores to keep our body at a flat rate. For ATP specifically, it’s going to be more common in cells that use the most energy. Mitochondria are found the most in brain cells, muscle cells, things like that because they use the most energy. Glycogen, on the other hand, is going to be more found in our muscle cells. More common in brain cells, but not as much as ATP. So each cell in our body specializes in a certain system, but they all kind of work together to keep us up and running.
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That’s exactly right. I’m going to take your analogy of a furnace in a house just a little bit further because a single cell, an average cell, has 1,100 proteins. furnaces, a neuron, a brain cell has 2,500 furnaces in one cell. So why is this so important? Well, if you’re supposed to have 2,500 furnaces powering your little neurons, your brain, and you do things or life gets in the way and they start coming offline, guess why you don’t feel so well? Guess why you have brain fog? Guess why your body isn’t functioning like it did when you were 18 years old? So this is why this topic matters. I know a lot of you are driving home going, why do I want to talk to this guy or listen to this guy talk about mitochondria? Folks, this matters. In our office, we say mitochondria, mitochondria. Because if I’m fixing everything else, if I fix your thyroid, if I fix your testosterone or your hormones, and I’m not fixing your mitochondria, it’s not a total waste of your time, but you’re only getting a small part of the picture. So that’s why this is so important. Okay. So, yes, let’s go to the Krebs cycle. Without geeking out again, give the – because remember, these people can’t see this. They’re hearing this. They’re like, Krebs cycle. Unless you’ve been a medical student or you have exercise physiology background, they’re like, I don’t know what this Krebs cycle is. So make it simple.
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Essentially, it’s the process of turning our food, the food we eat, the carbs, fats, proteins in that food into energy, into ATP. Okay. Keep it simple. All right. So why is this the key goal of every biohacker? Like we were touching on earlier, as we age, our mitochondrial function declines significantly. So by improving how we’re able to produce energy, we’re going to feel better. We’re going to move better. there’s things called radicals in our bodies. And if we have too much of them, they tend to break down our mitochondria specifically. And so if we’re focusing on the Krebs cycle, we’re reversing that damage that happens. And we’re able to return to when we were 5, 10, 15 years ago, feeling that energy, feeling healthy, feeling more like ourselves.
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So it would be like kicking these Antifa guys out of Denver. Denver goes back to being the beautiful city that it used to be. So in your body, if we get rid of these radicals, the body feels better, looks better, all is well. Yes. I like it. Okay. Well, let’s take a break and let’s take a slightly deeper dive on this same subject, okay, when we get back. So Dr. Scott Faulkner, if you’re leaning for John Rush, 560 KLZ. We’ll be right back.
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TJ with KLZ. And again, I am with Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial. Al, we talk a lot about how relational you are with your clients. Why don’t you take us through what an initial visit might look like, whether that’s in the office or over a Zoom call or whatever that is. What does that look and feel like for one of your clients?
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Well, first we kind of get to know one another a little bit, have a little bit of small talk. And once we move slightly beyond that, I often ask a question, what is your and your spouse’s greatest concerns as you move into toward retirement?
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What do you think people’s main fear is when they come to see you and how do you help to quell that with them?
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Many of the people who come in have been listening to me on the radio for years. And often there is some event that the reason they want to talk to me. Maybe they have concerns about taxes. It may be they’re concerned about the volatility of the stock market. And so by asking them about their concerns, we can zero in specifically. Because usually people have something on the back of their minds as the reason that they came in rather than having a cookie cutter form that I complete for everybody. I try and dive in more specifically to what is an individual or a couple’s primary concern that brought them in the office.
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We love that relational aspect and we love Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial. Al, why don’t you tell folks how to get in touch with you for that meeting?
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Easy way, 303-744-1128. If you’re driving, you can reach me through KLZ. KLZ has all my contact information. And once you reach out to them, they will reach out to me and I will contact you by phone or email so that we can have that conversation, whether it’s on a Zoom or a long phone conversation or here at the office.
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Excellent, Al. Thanks for joining us. Of course, you can find Al on klzradio.com slash money. Al, thank you so much.
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It’s actually Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, Health and Wellness Wednesdays, giving you advice and information on how to make that body of yours as good as possible, reversing aging. And then Studio, I have Reagan Kirstein with me. He’s one of my employees, a very smart young gentleman. He’s about to go back to Florida State University where he’s a stellar student learning the trade. I can’t wait for you to come back. I’m going to take him to A4M Conference in Las Vegas this year. He’s eating this stuff up, so it’s going to be a good time. So Reagan, we were talking about mitochondria. For those who are just getting in their car right now, give us a 30-second synopsis of what is mitochondria, why is it so important?
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Yes, so mitochondria are the generators that power a house, but it’s not just one generator in your typical cell. It’s 1,100, or in your neurons, it’s 2,500. So there’s a lot, and they’re important because as we get older, our mitochondria health significantly declines, and it’s linked to… neurodegeneration, metabolism problems. Over 50 diseases are tied to mitochondrial dysfunction. So if we have healthier mitochondria, we’re preventing all sorts of diseases and ailments and really can just live the lives we want to.
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Okay. So you’re telling me my mitochondria, am I doomed because my mitochondria…
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decrease with age no not necessarily so there’s several things we can do to to improve mitochondrial health one of them being nad therapy or nicotinamide identity dinucleotide nad plus for sure that’s a lot easier yes exactly plus uh and so nad is one of the key processes in the krebs cycle which we touched on earlier It’s one of the key agents in that energy production. So think of it as a worker in one of those generators, in those furnaces, helping to move energy to where it needs to be. So as we get older, every 20 years that passes after the age 30, our NAD levels are cut in half. They decline by 50%. So it’s now up to us to find ways to increase that NAD levels back to where it was when we were young and healthy.
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Okay, so you told me that it’s a coenzyme that transfers electrons, I believe. Yep. And ATP, you can’t really have ATP without this. No, exactly. And it declines 50% every 20 years. Yes, exactly. So it sounds to me like that’s a good reason why people don’t have a pep in their step when they’re 40 and then as they get in their 50s and 60s because a lot of people come into our clinic, our office, and say, Doc, I just don’t feel well. I don’t have the energy I used to. This is a huge part of this. I did not learn this in medical school. I had to learn this through, believe it or not, I actually learned it from some Bronco players that were patients or clients of ours. And I heard them saying how before big games, they were doing NAD IV infusions for power. And I’m like, NAD? And as a doctor, you learn to have the straight face because we know it all, right? Like, oh, that’s very interesting. So then you go back to your office, you close the door, you pull out your textbooks, and you’re like NAD, NAD, NAD. Because remember, when I took the Krebs cycle, we’re talking about 34 years ago. I like to give the analogy it’s like a jigsaw puzzle where back then we had maybe 100 pieces to a 500-piece jigsaw puzzle. Mm-hmm. Well, now you guys, you young guys, you have 350 pieces to that 500-piece jigsaw puzzle. So you have more of the picture. You don’t have it all, but you have way more than I had. So I had to learn this for myself. And so, yes, I heard these players talk about this. As I started to research it, I’m like, wow, there’s something to this. So a buddy of mine, my friend Steve, who helped me get the practice that we have now, he’s like, well, I want to be like the Broncos. I want to do the IV infusion. And I’m like, but Steve, look here. It says you can do it either as an intramuscular injection or a subcutaneous injection. Are you sure you want the IV? Yes, I want to be just like the Broncos. Okay. So he and his friend Marcus, our attorney, they both sat in different chairs. And we gave them an IV infusion of NAD+. And I know people who are driving home right now, they’re nodding their heads who have had this. It was two hours of sheer hell. It was awful. They were crying and whining like little babies. Turn this thing down. This feels awful. And I got the injection. It was an intramuscular injection. In about three and a half minutes, I felt it across my chest as my mitochondria started to wake up. I describe it as the same feeling that when I do a nuclear stress test on somebody in the hospital, when I give them something called adenosine to increase coronary blood flow, it’s the same feeling. And I know when it hits somebody because they shut up and their eyes get big. I’m like, you’re feeling it, aren’t you? And they nod their head because it’s a cousin to niacin. And so if you’ve ever had niacin and you get that flush feeling, NAD Plus doesn’t give you the red flush, but you get a similar tingly feeling. And for a lot of folks, it’s rather unpleasant. Now, mine lasted for about 35 minutes and then subsided. And then I looked at Steve and Marcus once they were done crying like little girls. Sorry, to the little girls. And we said, oh, my gosh, we have so much power. This was not caffeine. It wasn’t a jittery. It wasn’t Twitter-pated like you’re on speed or something like that. This was raw power. And when you talk about waking up your mitochondria, I mean, think about it. At the time, I was, what, 56. So – two-thirds of my mitochondria were asleep. They’re there, but they can’t function because they didn’t have the coenzyme to function properly. Steve and I looked at each other like, let’s go do something. We hopped, literally, we hopped in his F-350 truck. We loaded up the dirt bikes. We drove to Moab that night. The next day, we rode 60 miles on the Sovereign Trail. Now remember, I hadn’t been on my dirt bike in years. We rode 60 miles. Now, Steve owns a mechanic shop in the area, and he had his mechanics come on their bikes as well. And we stopped 30 miles into it, and we waited for them. These guys are in their 20s and 30s. And when they finally got up to us, they’re like, we don’t know what you guys are on, but we’re going back to the truck. We can’t keep up with you. And he and I rode another 30 miles on the Sovereign Trail. Now, if anybody’s been to Moab and you’ve been out there, this is not riding on a – nice groomed track where UTVs and you’re like, oh, this is fun. No, this is technical hard writing up rocks, down cliffs. It’s insane. But that’s the power you get when you get NAD. We were the first ones then to go to the microdose because what we learned is that a lot of people don’t like that feeling, that rush all at once. And I’ll be brutally honest, I will never do probably another full dose of NAD the rest of my life because now I’ve tried the microdose where I do it every few days and I’m like, oh, I don’t have that rush because it’s a little unpleasant. But the microdose and the power that you get and your workouts and everything, Reagan, you’re 19. Wait until you’re in your 50s, but you won’t have to because you’ll keep your mitochondria healthy because you’re going to microdose NAD probably the rest of your life. So I throw that out there because I’m living example of what we’re talking about. So those of you driving in your cars, if you want to dabble in the world of NAD, because remember, NAD is a natural substance to your body. Your body needs this. Your mitochondria needs this. This is not a foreign substance. It’s not made by Pfizer or Merck or Eli Lilly, Big Pharma. This is a naturally occurring substance that your body needs. Okay? So some people are trying to supplement with the precursors to NADE. Yes. Tell me why they’re wasting their time and money.
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couple of reasons. One, we have something what’s known as the first pass effect. So when we take anything orally, a supplement, it’s going to have to go through our livers, our kidneys, and that alone knocks out about 50% of these precursors. And then from there, if they end up making it to the cell, the cell doesn’t really know how to do with them. Not having enough precursors is not the problem. Not having enough NAD is the problem. So conversely, when we take an injection of the NAD+, only about 10% of the pure NAD gets into the cell. And you’re thinking, well, that’s not great. But that 10% kickstarts that cycle. And then that remaining 90% is just converted into the precursors. And now those precursors can help the NAD. So we sometimes get stuck in our tracks just taking the precursors because the body doesn’t have any NAD to build off of. And so by getting that first 10% bump into the actual cells, we’re able to actually use those precursors.
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So what I’m hearing you say is that the subcutaneous or even IM injections are far superior than to try and take the oral precursors because your liver, his job is to chew up or metabolize stuff, medications, supplements. So you’re basically wasting your time supplementing. with the precursors, just do the NAD shot, you get through 10% bump immediately like I did, and then you get the precursors that are going to make more NAD+. Yes, well said. All right, thank you. All right, so do we have any clinical evidence of this?
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Yes, so there is a Harvard and Washington University study, and that showed that extracellular NAD, which is the NAD that’s injected either intermuscularly or subcutaneously, is… You’ve broken down into precursors and then uptook into the cell, and that kickstarts that Krebs cycle from earlier. So that Krebs cycle can often get stuck in its way because we’re missing a key piece. We’re missing a piece from that jigsaw. And so by putting that NAD back in, we’re able to complete the loop and we’re able to produce our ATP, our energy currency.
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All right. So you’ve seen this firsthand as a 19 year old. You probably don’t believe it because you’ve got plenty of NAD right now. So what is your experience in the office?
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So we have 40, if not more patients who come to the office either every month for the microdose, you know, the full thing, or we also offer quarter and half doses to break it down into bi-weekly or weekly. And they just love it. And how many of our coworkers are on it? And they, you know, they cannot rave more about it. It’s it’s serious stuff it’s it’s one of those things where you really got to try it to to see it is is what i’ve been told and it’s really gonna work best in supplementation to some of the other things we’ve talked about exercise you know diet having the right right supplements but to take one thing on its own and immediately feel that benefit how many things in your experience as a doctor can you say like oh this will instantly improve your energy like it’s it’s hard to come by
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Yeah. I mean, really what comes to my mind is when I did sleep medicine and I put somebody on CPAP, that’s probably the closest thing to changing somebody’s life literally overnight. Because think about it. If you have sleep apnea, you’re stopping breathing 60, 70, 80 times an hour. Your brain isn’t functioning well. It’s not oxygenated. You walk around in a fog all day long. I put a CPAP machine on you. Now suddenly you got a good night’s sleep. You’re getting deep sleep. Your body’s catching up on REM. Literally, I could change somebody’s life overnight. That’s probably the only thing that I can think of in my almost 30 years of practicing medicine that is as fast as the NAD+. Wow. Yeah. That’s crazy. It’s really cool as a provider. And don’t forget, there’s other components too. It’s not just NAD for mitochondria because going back to the Krebs cycle, there’s also the supplements that you need, right? Because in the Krebs cycle, your body needs things like CoQ10. You need alpha lipoic acid. You need resveratrol, L-carnitine. And so many people don’t supplement that. That’s why in the morning, I counted it out this morning, I have 22 supplements. And people are like, dude, you can’t get me to swallow 22 supplements. Well, I’ll tell you what, you start bringing some of these in and you feel like me, I’m that perfect example. I feel, I told you this, I feel better at 59 than I did through my 30s and 40s. Now, I was sleep deprived as a medical student and as a resident, as a doctor in the hospital and the ICU. That’s why my glycan age, the test that you talked about to test my biologic age, was 80. Wow. it blew me away. And I’m like, I don’t eat poorly. I do exercise. What gives? And it’s my sleep quality. For 30 years of my life, it was fragmented sleep. So that’s why sleep is so important. That’s why I’m giving John’s listeners all these tips that I would normally spend half an hour talking to somebody in the office. Look, you need to start working on these different things. We’re going to take them one at a time. And there’s a method to the madness. But you start doing some of these things, you start bouncing off the walls. You start having energy. You start feeling good. You start looking good in the mirror. We get you to lose some weight maybe with adding a GLP-1. You start doing some of these exercises. Your cardiovascular system improves. And before long… You’re a new person. Yes. Yeah, I love it. So let’s take a break. When we come back, we’ll be talking about red light therapy and why is that important for your body. So you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner and Reagan filling in for John Rush 560 KLZ.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. You’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner for John Rush. For those of you who are in your car or just hopped in your car, I’m here with my special guest, Reagan Kirstein. He’s one of our employees. He’s 19 years old, and he is a wonder kid. Go back and listen to the intro for his bio at the very beginning. You’re like, wow, I wish my kid was smart like that. But we’re doing a fairly deep dive on why we recommend the things in our office that will regenerate your body, make you feel better, make you look better, and the whys behind it. Because you’re an intelligent audience. I don’t want to insult your intelligence to say because I’m the doctor, and I said to do this, and I’m not throwing pills at people. I want you guys to be as healthy as possible. My dad died at 45 of a massive heart attack. I don’t want that to happen to you. There’s things that we can do, and it’s not just, oh, your cholesterol is X. Here’s a statin. No, we’re giving you real-life things to do that have been shown and proven, and we’re taking you where you’re at and saying, really giving you tools to empower you to biohack and turn back the biologic clock. So we get excited when we start talking this stuff. And when we see the transformation, in fact, a young lady came into the office yesterday. She had lost 75 pounds. And I was so happy for her. She had a grin. When I saw her, I’m like, oh, my gosh, you’re looking great. She was in her summer sundress. She was light on her toes and going, yep, I feel great. It’s incredible. We’re going to talk more about that in the third hour with Regina Nabrit. And GLP-1s because we had a listener who asked John specifically, have Dr. Scott recap on the GLP-1. So those of you who are driving home right now, just know in that third hour, we’re going to be touching on that again. But we’ve been talking about mitochondria. Why that powerhouse of the cell is so important, how every 20 years we age, we drop 50% every 20 years. And that’s – you gave the example of the furnace in the house. I said, well, it’s 1,100 in a small cell, 2,500 in a neuron. So that’s a lot of power that you can lose over time. We said that the NAD Plus is the coenzyme that you must have for your mitochondria to work. So you can have the power plants, but if you don’t have the NAD Plus, it’s not going anywhere. We also talked about how the precursors, taking those orally, is pretty much a waste of your time. And we’ve shown the science why that doesn’t work. So you’ll see a lot of supplement companies advertising, oh, take our precursor. Don’t do it. Just take the NAD. And why a lot of people like the micro-dosed NAD because it’s a lot more palatable on the body. Now let’s segue into red light therapy that some people have done. They’ve gone to maybe Planet Fitness or one of these other gyms, and they have this silly little panel on the wall, and they call that red light therapy, which is not. Now I know John, he talks in the 6 o’clock hour with the Roundtable group how he has a sponsor who has a better quality red light. We in our office spent $75,000 for our red light bed, and that’s real quality. So first off, Reagan, what is red light therapy?
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I like to think of red light therapy in an analogy where your body is the solar panel, and you sit in that red light bed, and you’re taking in those warm rays. And you’re recharging and you get out of the bed. Maybe you even fall asleep in there because it’s so relaxing. And you pop out of the bed and you just feel refreshed. It’s your body taking energy in. To get a little bit more into the weeds, we have these… These enzymes in our body called cytochrome C oxidase. And in mitochondria, they get activated when they’re hit between 650 and 850 nanometers of red light. And it pretty much just supercharges your ATP. And so it allows our existing ATP to work even better.
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So you gave a wide range of the light spectrum. Yes. So there’s red and near infrared. And a lot of the cheap panels that you see or you can buy on Amazon and people have in their house – Those only have like one or two different wavelengths. Yes. And the bulbs don’t have the intensity. They’re about a quarter of a watt output, whereas our bed has three watts per bulb. Mm-hmm. So is that why we get such great results with ours and other people at the fitness place or at home when they bought one off of Amazon or Alibaba or whatever that is? Is that why theirs don’t give them the benefits that ours does?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, that’s an important piece of the puzzle as you touched on. There’s a lot of different wavelengths that we can use as a red light. The one we offer at our clinic, Castle Rock Regenerative Healthcare, is a 10-spectrum red light wave bed. And that’s including six red light waves and two near-infrared light waves. So you really get a full spectrum. And then we also offer green and blue lights as well in that bed, which are good to supplement to the red light as well. And also, as you touched on the intensity, if you have a typical cheap red light panel from wherever you get it, You’d have to spend hours in front of that to really get the same energy output as we’ll give you in 15 minutes. So you’re saving time and you’re feeling refreshed. It’s a bed. It’s not having to rotate every 30 seconds to get an even coverage.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that’s it. It’s not a panel where you have to stand in front of the thing and then like a hot dog, you know, quickie mart where you have to rotate yourself around. I mean, this thing encompasses almost 360 degrees, right? Yeah. Okay. Boy, that was a deep dive with this cytochrome C oxidase. Well done, young man. Well done. Thank you. So applications. Yes. Let’s make this real for the people driving home right now. Give me some applications.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. A great starting point would be two, three times a week for just 15 minutes. That’s all it takes. Come to our office or another place that has one of those high-end beds and just try it out for a couple weeks. You’ll notice that first time. You’ll get out of that bed and you’ll be like, Okay, I feel a little bit better. But really, when you start doing that week after week, you’re really like, wow, I remember a month ago, I was always tired. You know, bedtime couldn’t come soon enough. And now it’s, you know, 8, 9, 10 p.m. I’m feeling good. And so it’s really awesome. We have, you know, everyone at our clinic loves it. On the employee side, I know I try to do it four times a month, just really try to enjoy the time in there. It’s relaxing. It’s pretty awesome.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and no, you can’t take it to Florida State with you, by the way. No, unfortunately. Right. Okay. So talk about synergy with NAD+.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, absolutely. So kind of going a little bit into the weeds again with that cytochrome C oxidase. So that will help in the Krebs cycle. So we’re really targeting two separate jig pieces or jigsaw pieces to that puzzle. And when we’re putting that together, we’re expanding that image. We’re getting an even more broad range of benefits so with that nad we’re increasing energy output with the red light therapy we’re making that energy that much better we’re super charging that atp so it’s even better energy so we’re making more energy and we’re making better energy wow it’s exciting stuff
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Well, thank you for that. We’re going to take another break. I see it’s 445. And when we come back, we’ll talk about some practical things for folks that they can implement in their lives. So you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLZ. And if you want to be part of the show, you can give us a call. If you have a question, 303-477-5600. If you have any questions at all and you want to talk to me, call the office at 303-663-6990. We’ll be right back.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush with special guest Regan Kirstein here in studio. And so, Regan, let’s tie this together. So let’s give folks who are driving home some practical tips. Let’s do a recap on everything we’ve talked about in the last two hours and bring it home for these folks.
SPEAKER 16 :
Awesome. Well, let’s start back with VO2 max. So, again, VO2 max is kind of a rating of how well our body is using oxygen. And that’s very important because as we get older, everything we do from walking outside to hanging out with our kids, hanging out with our friends will use oxygen. And we have two key ways to improve our VO2 max, one being REHIT, the reduced exertion high intensity interval training. That’s the 10-minute workout where you have two 20-second bursts of energy. And then we have our Zone 2 training, which is kind of a brisk walk, jogging pace where you can… say a sentence, but then you may have to take a couple breaths. It’s pretty easy, but that’s kind of the cornerstone. And zone two and re-hit training really, really work well together. Just as a kind of brief recap, the re-hit will target our glycogen stores and force our body to burn oxygen, where that zone two gives us our body a chance to get better at using the oxygen. So they work really well together.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you said VO2 max is like one of the most better predictors of?
SPEAKER 16 :
The best predictor. The best, okay. Yes. So, yep, going back to that Cooper study where over, I think I want to say, 120 markers were looked at and VO2 max was in a league of its own. And that’s due to several things. It’s kind of a reflection of, what you’ve done in the last 10, 15 years, VO2 max is going to be one of the things that are, is harder to increase, but that’s why we bring in things like re-hit, which, you know, you can increase 12% in just six weeks. So very fascinating. And then kind of going off VO2 max training, VO2 max training is great for mitochondrial health. And so going back to the mitochondria, the powerhouse of the cell in a small cell, there’s 1100 in a neuron, there’s 2,500. So There are, there’s a lot of mitochondria in the cell. And as we decline, excuse me, as we get older, both the mitochondrial number and the efficiency decline. And that’s why we bring in things like NAD plus and red light therapy to help boost our mitochondria again, get them working better than ever. And NAD was that naturally occurring coenzyme in our body that declines 50% every 20 years after 30. And so by getting an injection as opposed to taking orally, we’re really able to get that initial bump in our NAD stores. where we’re then able to better use NAD precursors. And then going back to red light therapy, again, thinking of red light therapy as your body is a solar panel, taking in those waves, recharging our batteries, and creating better energy.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right. And to put the icing on the cake, so the other supplements that you need to take for your Krebs cycle for your mitochondria health are things like alpha lipoic acid, resveratrol, CoQ10, things like that. I started taking a supplement from Pure Encapsulation. Pure is one of those companies that meets the FDA’s CGMP, current good manufacturing practices, because nutraceuticals are not regulated by the FDA. So these companies, they have gone the extra step. They send their product to a third-party independent lab who tests it to make sure that what’s in it is what it says on the label. And so I’ve done that research. I’ve done that. If you want to know what I take, because I told you I’m taking 22 supplements right now. I was taking way more, but when I found this one, it had a lot of the other things that you need for your mitochondria cut way back on the amount of supplements that I had to take and the pills. And I’ll tell you what, it’s made my life a whole lot better. So we have a caller, Dave from Woodland Park. You had a question for either myself or Reagan?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, I got a question for you. I’ve got a friend that lives in Chicago. I’ll make this quick. I’ve got a friend that lives in Chicago. Their son, he’s been taking antibodies for five years on something that’s happening to his feet, his whole, well, his feet. How do I get in contact with you so that I can transfer that information to him so that he can contact you and go from Chicago and see you? Because I believe you can help him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you, Dave. It’s very easy. Two ways. You can either go on our website, CastleRockRegenerativeHealth.com. If he does that, he can actually book a free consultation for himself. Or you can to talk to me. Or you can call the office at 303-663-6990. That’s 303-663-6990. And it’s a free consultation. And I would love to talk to you or your friend. If we can help this young man, we’ll do anything that we can.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and I really believe you can. So Castle Rock Regenerative Health.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because the whole business is health care, but the website is castlerockregenerativehealth.com.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, okay. Thank you so much. You know, the thing about it is I was talking to him about you this morning, and we were trying to get information on the web, and then at 3 o’clock, there you are. And I’m blown away. You know, that’s a divine appointment.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amen. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, yes. So… castlewalkregenerativehealth.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, sir. Thank you, Dave, for the call. I appreciate it. I look forward to talking to you in the next day or so. All right. So I wanted to segue. We have Regina Nabrit in studio with us. She’s been listening quietly like a little church mouse. And in the next segment, I want to start bringing in the mental health because it is so critical to everything we’re talking about. But Like I said earlier, John had a listener who texted him to have me talk about the GLP-1s. So I wanted to start the last of this hour, and then we’re going to segue at the top of the next hour into this and the mental health aspects. But to recap, remember the GLP-1s, that’s the glucagon-like peptide. Millions of people are on these things now. So you will recognize them as semaglutide and turazepatide. And now there’s retatrutide, which we have. You’ll recognize them as the name brands Ozempic, Wegovii. Zetbound and Manjaro. Sorry. And so these medications are given as an injection. They’ve come out with some oral versions. They don’t work so well because of that first pass effect that Reagan was talking about earlier because your liver gets in the way and there’s a lot more nausea associated with those. So I don’t recommend the oral versions at all. But it’s a once-a-week injection, and it mimics a hormone in the body called leptin, which is an incretin. These are incretin mimetics. It goes up to the hypothalamus on your brain, hits a receptor that says, hey, stop eating. You’re full. So that’s the primary mechanism. There’s a couple of other mechanisms, like you feel full longer because it slows down GI transit time. Just glucagon by itself, because glucagon, like peptide, causes your body to burn fat preferential to anything else. Those are the primary mechanisms of the semaglutide. Terazeptide has the second mechanism called GIP. GIP means it causes your body to secrete a little more insulin. So as a consequence, your body has a better response to the sugar load. So we do see better blood sugar control in diabetics and pre-diabetics with terazeptide than with semaglutide. In head-to-head trials now, the jury’s back. Terazeptide has better weight loss compared to semaglutide, and there’s a little less nausea because that’s the number one side effect that people can get. And then there’s Retatrutide, which actually has three mechanisms. It’s GLP-1, it’s GIP, and it’s thermogenic, which means it increases your metabolism. bit so that one is crazy but it just went through phase three clinical trials with the FDA it hasn’t been approved yet so I keep that in reserve for people who may have failed semaglutide and tereseptide had a caller this morning she asked well what about the black box warning and thyroid cancer remember we have about 17 years of safety data now out on these medications In the original study, there was a mouse that got a thyroid cancer. None of his buddies did. No other strain of mouse. And to date, in 17 years, we have not seen an increased rate of thyroid cancer. Now, can the general population get a thyroid cancer? Yes. But does this increase your rate? Absolutely not. If you feel a nodule in your neck, go get it checked out, right, around your thyroid gland. But it does not increase the risk. Same thing with pancreatitis. The people who get pancreatitis are the same people who are at risk for gallbladder disease. And in medical school, we learned the five Fs, female, fertile, fat, fair, and 40. So that’s the population. Well, who’s on these medications primarily? Female, fair, fat, 40, and you get it. So it’s not that it increases it. It’s just those ladies had self-selected as being an increased risk for it. Now, what about the generics? So Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, Eli Lilly makes Terzeptide, Novo Nordisk makes Semaglutide. They both won their lawsuits and you heard me talk about that with John back in March to where the compounding pharmacies had to cease and desist making this. Well, there’s one compounding pharmacy, Strive, out of Phoenix, Arizona, that is pushing the envelope. They will lose their lawsuit. They’re going to get hammered. So any doctor using this medicine from Strive is on really thin ice. I don’t do that. And when we come back, I’m going to explain to you why. So you’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner with Reagan and Regina. And that’s two hours in the can. We’ll be back for the top of the third hour.
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