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All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Daniel Turner joining us now from Power of the Future. Daniel, welcome back. How are you? Oh, it’s always great to be on the program. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You guys at Power of the Future are calling on the Trump administration to investigate what you guys suspect is a coordinated national lawfare campaign by left-wing climate activists. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and actually it’s even expanded because I saw today, I think it was 19 state attorneys general signed on to a letter calling for further investigation. So what we discovered was a program. Let’s start with this 30,000 foot. I understand that there’s always going to try to be influencing. Of course. People lobby senators. You talk to your governor. Of course, the judiciary is prone or people are going to try to whisper in judges ears. But we discovered that there’s a program put together by climate leftists. to educate judges on the climate issue. And it’s done under this pretext of, no, no, no, this is just talking about environmental law, and we want judges to know what’s happening. But what’s the problem is that several thousand judges have gone through this program. The judges don’t disclose that they went through it. The program won’t disclose which judges went through it. They don’t disclose what the curriculum is, who the donors were. So my question is, and you’re in the great state of Colorado, right? There’s a lot of oil and gas. If some radical green group is suing the John Rush Oil Company, wouldn’t you want to know that the judge hearing that case and that radical green group five months ago weren’t at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills for a four-day climate conference? I would want to know that, yes. That’s what we are saying. I wanted to begin with that pretext of I understand there’s going to be The effort to influence people and judges and politicians. Totally understand it. I’m not even saying the program should stop. I’m just saying we have to disclose the names because judges are supposed to be impartial. And if judges are taking this multi-day conference and not telling us who’s paying for it, then that’s not an impartial job.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re nicer than me. I don’t think judges should be going to anything like that, Perry. That’s my opinion.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Well, I agree with you there. But, you know, they’re going to argue judges have an obligation to stay abreast of the law. They have continuing education requirements. And, you know, I’ll be honest, if Power the Future had a donor that I could bring judges to the Four Seasons and tell them all about the importance of the oil and gas.
SPEAKER 03 :
I guess that’s true, too. OK, that’s the flip side to it. OK, I get that.
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But I guarantee you, your senators, John Hickenlooper and Michael Bennett and And even more radical senators like Sheldon Whitehouse from Rhode Island, if they knew that this program was happening, they’d want to know who the judges were. They’d want those judges to recuse themselves from every oil and gas decision. And the fact that these 3,000 judges are in secrecy, I think, is a load of hokum. And that’s what we’re calling for. I don’t blame you.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. No, it is. It’s a bunch of nonsense. So where are we at with this? How can listeners help?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we asked the attorney general to investigate. And then, like I mentioned earlier, 19 state attorneys general have signed on to a letter similarly saying they want this program exposed. They want the names of the judges exposed. And that’s a great start. This is how we get the ball rolling to get a more fair and honest decision. judiciary, and a more fair and honest American society.
SPEAKER 03 :
So basically talking about it, bring awareness, get the, in this case, the DOJ with their eyeballs on it and start letting people know exactly what’s going on. In other words, let’s bring it to light and see what happens.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. And if you’re a judge, you have to disclose these things. Just like if you’re a senator or a governor, you have to disclose what stocks you’re buying. You have to disclose who your donors are. Because if everyone is up for sale, well, then we don’t really have a fair and honest government. And that’s all Power of the Future is asking for.
SPEAKER 03 :
How long, Daniel, has this been going on?
SPEAKER 11 :
This has been going on since 2018. And the program was started deliberately after that very famous… west virginia versus epa case and when the biden administration uh when that happened in the early trump administration they realized um the the radical leftist groups realized okay we got to start winning over judges we’re losing right if we if we wait to get to the supreme court we’re doing so let’s start getting to judges now and in the last seven years some 3 000 judges have been part of this program and i will hand it to the left they are good right they are clever they are forward thinking They are very good. But what they’re not is honest and transparent. And that’s what we’re asking for.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and everything you just said. In fact, I talked about that earlier in the program in the 3 o’clock hour. Everything you just said, spot on. I mean, they are very good at what they do. And unfortunately, they have, in some cases, Daniel, more time. They’ve got good funding. Not that we don’t on our side, but our… Part of our problem is we don’t look at things in this same way. We just don’t have the same mindset that they have. That’s part of our issues.
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And part of our issues is that we work for a living. That’s right. So I look every day at protests happening. There were protests. There were 300 people protesting the deportation of Omar.
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I saw that. Talked about that yesterday.
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Yep. 300 people. You and I couldn’t have protested anything because we have jobs.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the thing I added into that yesterday, too, as well, is keep in mind that there’s probably a handful that are legitimately there. The most of those are paid, as well as you know.
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Yeah, absolutely. And the left protest activism, this is how they have won in the past. They haven’t won with the opinion polls of the American people. Proof of that is how climate change, as an issue, still polls terribly. Even in the last election, seven months ago, Kamala Harris never ran on it. She never talked about it. She talked about how we were producing more oil and gas than ever before. And if you looked at exit polls, it wasn’t even a top 20 issue. And yet, despite that, we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on climate initiatives, climate curricula, and bribing, basically bribing judges to rule on climate change. So this is how the left has always won, because the truth is not on their side.
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Do you think people are – Wayne, I should have had a clip ready today. I didn’t even think about this. I was watching something the other day, and there was a clip that I saw all the way back, I want to say, in the late 70s. It was Leonard Nimoy, and he was narrating a clip where the next ice age was coming, and how in the world are we going to survive it, and this, that, and the other. I mean, do you think, Daniel, some people wane because we’ve seen this entire seesaw approach to climate?
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I think the older you get and the more you’ve been hearing the apocalypse of climate change, the more you realize it’s a load of bunk. And that’s why they go after children so much. When you are nine years old and last winter had no snow, it does seem like the end of times. But, you know, I’m 51. I’ve been hearing this a long time. I don’t remember the Leonard Nimoy documentary. I do. I have watched it. I’m old enough to know that one, unfortunately. It is on YouTube. I encourage people to watch it because it was the late 70s and they used Leonard Nimoy because he’s Dr. Spock and he’s a scientist. So this must be truth. And it’s the same arguments. The experts agree. And the clock is ticking. We are running out of time to combat this. Amazing how quickly they turned from from global cooling to global warming to now just flat out. Climate change. And they’ve had a bad year, the climate change people, because at least in most of America, it has been a really mild August. I mean, Virginia has I’m in rural central Virginia. We haven’t had a day in the 90s. It was 68 degrees today. I don’t know why. God does.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know why.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s supposed to be 96 degrees. I saw Houston, Texas was 85.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I still have you because we’re cool here in Colorado today. We’re a whopping 72 as we speak. So, Charlie, here, bring up my sound. And I actually found this little clip. It’s a couple of minutes. Hang with us here, Daniel. Just for grins, I’ve got to play this while I have you on. Here we go.
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Please do.
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In the past million years, it has advanced and retreated with clockwork regularity. If we are unprepared for the next advance, the result could be hunger and death on a scale unprecedented in all of history. What scientists are telling us now is that the threat of an ice age is not as remote as they once thought. During the lifetime of our grandchildren, arctic cold and perpetual snow could turn most of the inhabitable portions of our planet into a polar desert. In 1977, the worst winter in a century struck the United States. Arctic cold gripped the Midwest for weeks on end. Great blizzards paralyzed cities of the Northeast. One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in marooned cars. Pat Bushnell was on the road that night.
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Traffic just absolutely stopped. I was afraid of being stuck in the car all night long with the cold and the wind running out of gas. And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through, I think we’d have to think about moving someplace else.
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Move where? The brutal Buffalo winter might become common all over the United States. Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come sooner than anyone had expected. At weather stations in the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. Seacoasts long free of summer ice are now blocked year-round. According to some climatologists, within a lifetime, we might be living in the next ice age.
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All right. So that was 1978, Daniel. And I remember that winter, by the way. So here in Colorado, it was actually very cold as well. But we’re all still alive for some odd reason, Daniel.
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And it’s always the fear. It is always the panic that they have to instill in people that this is it. We’re running out of time. The experts agree. And again, the older you get, the more you realize we’ve been hearing this for a long time. I mean, the Maldives were supposed to be underwater by the year 2000. That’s what the United Nations told us that in 89. That’s right. Bangladesh was supposed to be underwater by the year 2000. How many times did Al Gore and John Kerry tell us that there’s going to be no more sea ice, and yet sea ice has grown to its largest in some 50 years, and no one knows why. And they can try to make patterns and predictions and say it’s this or that. But the formula is if we keep burning fossil fuels, the climate’s going to get worse. We’re clearly burning fossil fuels. And yet we haven’t even had a serious hurricane this year. No, I hope not. What do we never do? Right. But we probably will because we always have. We do. That’s right. That’s right. And we have we have floods and tornadoes and hurricanes. So what we need is to build a society that is resilient against Mother Nature rather than let Mother Nature wreak havoc, whether it’s fires or storms, et cetera.
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That’s right. Daniel, always a joy having you. I had to slip that clip in just because you were on because it was right up the alley of what we’re talking about. So I appreciate you. How do folks find you?
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Powerofthefuture.com, and I’m great to be on with you and great for playing that clip because it reminds us of where we are. So thank you.
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Always a joy, Daniel. Appreciate you very much. Have a great week. God bless. All right, man. Appreciate you very much. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future. Had him on many, many times in the past. Always a great guest. Flesh Law coming up next. Criminal, civil, whatever it is you need help with, Kevin is there for you. 303-806-8886.
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And really quick, just touch it back on Daniel and Power of the Future. And Charlie and I were talking through the break there that even the music in that clip that was being played by Leonard Nimoy, just so ominous. I mean, you were just waiting for the next iceberg to come floating down Main Street and absorb all of us. I mean, that’s literally what you thought was going to happen. And I can remember… I was in school at that point in time, 1978. Let’s see, I would have been a, I can’t remember now what I was, sophomore, I guess. And reality was, I mean, everybody thought, or I guess I was a freshman. Everybody thought that that was coming. That’s what we heard. You saw TV commercials and so on, and it was talked about in school, and the next ice age was on its way, and how are we all going to survive, and, and, and. And then it switched to global warming, and now it’s climate change. So we’ve gone to an ice age. to global warming, to climate change, and all the while, keep this in mind, those of you that are on the left, please hear me out on this, all the while, all these bigwigs like Al Gore and John Kerry still live on the coast. Why is that? If they really feel like the water level is going to change and it’s going to absorb all of the land and so on, why would you buy a house and invest in some coastal property? But they all do. I would guess – I don’t think I’m too far off on this. I would guess that if you looked up who lived in most coastal areas and what party they affiliate with, I’ll bet you the majority are on the left. I would be hard-pressed to believe that I’m not right. Charlie’s agreeing with me. I think if you actually took a poll – and looked at all of the coastal properties, and who’s conservative and who’s liberal, that I’ll bet you the majority of them have a D. Now, I don’t know if it’s 51% or 60% or 70%, but I guarantee you it’s over 50%. And the question I have for all of you on the left is, if you all believe in this so much, why do you buy property on the coast then? And here’s the answer, because you don’t really believe it. You’re a bunch of hypocrites. Some of you do. I get text messages from some of you. I think there are some hardcore lefties that really do believe this is happening. You’re mistaken. It’s not, but you really think it is. And you’re being duped by your own party. Because, again, think about what I just said. If all of the people that really believed in this really believed in it, why would you ever move to the coast? You’d live as far inland as you possibly could for fear that the ocean would absorb you and your house and your belongings. All right, speaking of things that just don’t make sense, there is an article in 9 News that I read today. Steve on your side. Some shoppers are uneasy as King Soopers implements receipt checks by security guards. Okay, side note, I’ve never once walked out of any area, whether I went through the cashier or I self-checked out, and I’ve never once felt intimidated, bad, or that there was a problem me showing the receipt on the way out. Why is that? And why would some be intimidated by that? Are you stealing? Did you self-ring up and not check everything out that you were supposed to? Or did you do one of the little cheat things where you take a barcode off of one item and put it on the big screen TV so as you’re walking out, it’s way less money? Or you left the water. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. You left the water underneath the cart that you never scanned and you didn’t purposely scan it and you just walked out with it and you get the drift here. There’s a lot of theft that happens. And I get it. The answer is some are going to come back and say, well, then put real checkers in the store and that wouldn’t happen. Well, in defense of these merchants, go find the help. As somebody that coaches businesses, and I am one as well, go find the help. That’s the problem we have in today’s world is go find somebody willing to work. That’s a problem. And those of you listening know exactly what I mean because you experience it as well. Go find people willing to work. There’s not a plethora of them. And part of that’s because we’ve trained them to sit in mom’s basement and do nothing and play video games and reward them for that. That’s a whole other discussion that I talk about on a routine basis. But why would some shoppers feel uneasy because at King Soopers they’re actually checking receipts? Unless you’re a thief, why would you feel bad? It’s sort of like when you’re driving down the road and you’re just kind of doing your thing and you might be driving the speed limit. It might even be under the speed limit depending upon what you’re doing and what’s going on. And all of a sudden you see a cop. Do you feel nervous? I don’t. You’re not speeding. You’re not doing anything wrong. Do I feel nervous? No. When do you feel nervous when you go by a cop when you’re doing 10 over? This same thing applies here. You only feel guilty because you are guilty. Otherwise, what’s there to feel guilty about? Why would you feel bad about showing your receipt to somebody walking out the door if you didn’t do anything wrong? No different than going to Sam’s or Costco or anything else when you walk out the door. They check your receipt. How hard is this? Why is this a problem that King Soopers does it unless you’re stealing things? So here’s my advice. If you’re feeling bad, stop stealing. Stop trying to exit the store without paying for an item, and you won’t have that feeling. You won’t have that sinking feeling anymore. Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, you forgot one other thing in the 70s. Remember the ozone hole?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yes. Don’t use that hairspray, Dan.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because remember it was going to destroy our ozone because of the hairspray and other stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Freon. Freon and hairspray were killing us, Dan.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. So they found out that later on that the ozone hole expanded and contracted. Yeah, it cycles. So we never heard about it after that. Remember that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, because it closed up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. So and then what was the other thing I forgot? Well, global warming didn’t start. Remember the forest fires and Yellowstone? back in, I think that was 85, 86.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I remember that, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s when global warming first started. Because that was a very, very dry, hot weather. And they said it was global warming.
SPEAKER 03 :
I forgot about that. You’re correct, yes. They thought Yellowstone was going to completely burn up. It didn’t, of course, but that’s what they thought.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And the thing is, they say these bad forest fires, but the environmentalists, That’s right. That’s right. Yep. So, and they were spiking trees and everything else.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, that’s right. Yeah, and for those of you that don’t know, spiking trees means they would put metal, basically they would insert metal, pound a metal spike into the tree, so when they were cutting it down with a chainsaw, it ruined the chainsaw.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it could cause, if that chain comes flying off, it could injure the water, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Echo terrorism, they called it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and then… So just a local thing, my dad and my stepmom lived up in Redding, California, up there at Redding Lake. I forget the name of the lake, Shasta Lake. So the environmentalists, I think there was some nesting ospreys, and the EPA had to move the marina because the ospreys made a nest by the marina. So they took all this expense to move the marina away from the nesting ospreys Well, guess what the ospreys did? They moved their nest over to the marina because of the fish around the marina. So they spent all this money, the environmentalists, and the ospreys, they weren’t being bothered by all the boating traffic and all the activity around the marina because the ospreys, the fish, conjugate around those docks and boats.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And they were able to get the fish.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
They don’t care about the people.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, no. We spend all this money to take care of the environment, and they do… They’re worse for the environment than if we would learn how to be, it’s called animal husbandry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Being a good steward.
SPEAKER 16 :
And being stewards.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And being a good steward of the land.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. You’re 100% correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, anyway.
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Always good, Dan. Appreciate you, man. Have a great rest of your day. Stay dry out there. We’ll be back here in just one moment. Up next, Roof Savers of Colorado. It is rainy out today. Has been here this afternoon. Make sure you’re dialed in when it comes to your roof. And Dave Hart can help you with all of that. Think you need a new roof?
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And we are back. Jersey Joe joining us now. Joe, what’s up, sir? How are you today? I’m great, John. Yourself? I’m doing very well. A little cooler here today, but we’ll take it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Same thing here, falls around the corner like we had a high of 72 today.
SPEAKER 03 :
It sure seems like it, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Fantastic. Hey, John, I know you talked yesterday at length about that truck crash in Florida.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I did.
SPEAKER 15 :
He was in seek from India.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Are you aware of the petition that’s out there that’s asking the— Yep, 22.5 million people have signed this stupid thing. Did you talk about that today? Yesterday I did.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, yeah, because 2.5 million people, it’s addressed to the governor and the Chicago— I’m sorry, in the Florida Board of, let’s see, what board have they addressed it to?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, whatever they can do to make it more lenient on his sentence is what they’re trying to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
The Board of Executive Clemency, and here’s what they’re asking for. And here’s what the petition says. While accountability matters to the severity of the charges against him, do not align with the circumstances of the incident. If convicted, the petition requests that Singh receive a proportionate and reasonable sentence that parole eligibility be granted after part of his sentence is served, and that alternatives to incarceration, like counseling or community service, be considered instead of imprisonment.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and I went through the whole thing yesterday, which there’s a part of the story which most don’t know. I did a bunch of research on this over the weekend, happened to have somebody that just happened to show up in one of my feeds, a trucker that really explained, and I know a little bit about that from being somewhat in that industry, Joe. And I went through the whole process of the white family in this case. It’s the white Sikh family that actually brings over a lot of these individuals. They’re, in a way, indentured servants themselves. They cut holes in the floors of these semis. They put two drivers in them. They literally go to the bathroom in the floor of the truck. The truck never, ever, ever shuts off. It only stops to actually get fuel. It continues to run nonstop. It’s how they get the rate of per mile down so much. And these trucks, they literally run them until they stop. They don’t even change oil in these trucks most of the time, Joe. They add oil as needed. They’ll occasionally spin on a new filter. And they do as least amount of maintenance as possible on these things. And they’re about as unsafe as it gets.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and I think, was it you, because I listened to you do that yesterday, either you or somebody else said they had like 28 violations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, that was me. They had 28 in 24 months.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, 28 serious violations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, serious. These are not, you know, your air pressure was a little low type violation. I mean, violations that would take the truck off the road.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, not like one of your brake lights is out.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, no, nothing like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
These are serious.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the reason, Joe, and as I explained yesterday, everybody, that’s because they’re literally running these trucks to death. And they’ll put 300,000 to 500,000 miles on them, and then that truck goes and they just hop in another one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they get their cost per mile down to where it’s really hurting the rest of the industry and the good drivers that are out there. And this is what the people signing this petition have no idea what they’re talking about. These are individuals that are not fully trained, that shouldn’t be behind the wheel in the first place. They’re a danger to those that are around them, which was proven by what happened down there in Florida. And these guys need to be held accountable. There’s no reason why this sentence should be light. They know what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that has to send a message to other people who are considering doing the same thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. It’s a bunch of garbage that there’s two and a half million people that are so stupid they’d sign this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anyway, so that’s the stupidest. In my podcast, that was the stupidest thing I’ve heard all week, two and a half million people signing me. Anyway, moving on. I didn’t hear Sonny Cutcher on this week. Did you have her on?
SPEAKER 03 :
Tomorrow she’ll be on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, I got three things you might want to, just as a preface, about my podcast that was heavy on socialism. Started with my quote of the week from Economist Thomas Sowell, you know who he is, right? Oh, yeah. And here’s the quote of the week from Thomas Sowell. He said, the history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth only to wind up redistributing poverty. You know, how many times have we seen people like Maduro or you got Mondami or Fidel Castro, They get the poor people, yeah, we’re going to take all the money from the rich people, and we’re going to give you free this and free that and free that. And before you know it, the rich people, like Margaret Thatcher said, the trouble with socialism is you run out of other people’s money. That’s right. And every single time you try it, I mean, Venezuelans now are depending on rabbit meat to keep themselves out of starvation. And by the way, let’s go back to Mondami. So we talked last week about how the city-owned and operated grocery store in Kansas City failed and shuttered its doors after $18 million taxpayer dollars down the drain. You know what else they announced? They’re ending in Kansas City, Missouri. What’s that? Their free bus service. Okay. And let me read you a little clip from the story. So the city of Kansas, they spent $50 million. They started this in COVID. Remember when the federal government was giving out COVID money to all the local governments? So they got some COVID money, and they decided, well, let’s make bus service free. Well, so they started that. Well, local funding dried up, and then both riders and drivers slammed the buses as, quote, unreliable, filthy, rolling homeless shelters. And here’s a quote. If you go from charging a fare to not charging a fare, of course ridership goes up, but you end up with degradation of service. So, John, if you’re homeless in Kansas City and it’s raining or it’s cold and you don’t have a place to sleep, where are you going to go? You’re going to get on the bus because it’s free. It’s warm.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think. Yeah, because it is. Exactly right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So that’s why the buses became literally rolling homeless shelters, because you could ride them all day and be warm and dry. So the grocery store only cost $18 million of taxpayer money. The five-year free bus service experience cost $50 million of taxpayer money. And now that’s gone by the wayside as well. And Mondami is advocating, continuing in his campaign ads as early as this morning, is still advocating both as his promise to the people of New York.
SPEAKER 03 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 15 :
Unreal. So as long as we talk about socialism, I don’t know if you have it, but I sent you a clip of the late Milton Friedman, the Nobel Award-winning economist. And he talked about the single greatest invention that has lifted more people out of poverty than anything else. I’m trying to think, is he talking about the wheel? Is he talking about the fire, the steam engine? And I’m trying to. And his answer surprised me, John. It was the voluntary contract. If somebody says, hey, I’ll change your oil for $89, new filter, premium filter, it’s a full synthetic, and you say yes, you’ve just entered into a contract. He’s made you an offer. You accept it. Somebody comes along and says, hey, I’ll mow your grass for $30, you know. And you say yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ll come to work for you for $10 an hour. That’s a contract.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s a contract.
SPEAKER 03 :
You sold your time. That’s what I’m trying to get most people to understand as an employee. You’ve sold your time to the employer for X amount per hour.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Everybody who accepts a job has entered into a contract. Now, it may be a contract that’s terminable at will. Still a contract. But still a contract. You can terminate it at will and say, I quit this afternoon. But as long as you’re working there, you’ve agreed to work. And the employer’s agreed to pay you so many dollars an hour for the hours you work.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s why, really quick, I’ve got to slip this in. That’s why, as an employee, anytime you do something that isn’t for the employer, you’re surfing the web, you’re talking to your girlfriend, you’re skipping out on lunch and come back half an hour late, but somebody else punched you in, you’re stealing from that employer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Because your agreement was not to do that. Not to do that. So when Milton Friedman, it hit me like a ton of bricks, and when you listen to this, it’s a very short clip, and it’s on a loop, so you’ll have to catch it before it repeats. But he talks about how this has lifted more people out of poverty, and he compares it to socialism, and the key words are voluntary. I’ll play it. Here we go. Voluntary exchange. So let’s play it.
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to the essence of capitalism and its relevance to the question of humanity. As I say, the essence of a capitalist system in its pure form is that it is a system of cooperation without compulsion, of voluntary exchange, of free enterprise. But the essential character of a capitalist system is that it relies On voluntary exchange, on your agreeing with me that you will buy something from me if I will pay you a certain amount for it, the essential notion is that both parties to the exchange must benefit. This was a great vision of Adam Smith in his Wealth of Nations, that individuals each separately pursuing their own self-interest could promote the social interest because you could get exchange between people on the basis of mutual benefit.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, there you go. Cooperation without compulsion. Yep. I love those words. Cooperation without compulsion. Ever notice that whenever government makes something mandatory like Obamacare, it’s always a train wreck?
SPEAKER 03 :
Like EVs. EVs aren’t bad in and of themselves, nor was health care, by the way, but government ruined it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, whenever you make it compulsory. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
You ruin it.
SPEAKER 15 :
And when you look at, again, you’ll talk to Sonny Kutcher tomorrow, and maybe she’s listening tonight. But this whole thing about capitalism has done more to lift people out of poverty than any other invention in the history of mankind.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I was just I had never heard that clip by Milton Friedman before, but. I was just struck by how true it was.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very true. He’s spot on. And, again, people don’t realize that when they’re, you know, I was talking about credit card fees earlier and the fact that I wouldn’t pay some of these exorbitant fees. If I was in some town and they wanted to charge me that, I would be having a conversation with the owner because I would not be paying those fees. I would not agree to that contract.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And when you look, John, at, you know, when you say socialism and particularly communism, Everything is central planning. And I’ve got a clip from that of Ronald Reagan I want you to play. But like in Russia, you had one appliance manufacturer. You can only buy one model of stove, one model of TV, one model of car. And there was never any incentive for improvement. And if you watch any of these, the History Channel, the cars that made America, the games, what drives innovation and advancement is is competition. Competition makes everything better.
SPEAKER 03 :
I always say competition breeds excellence.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. John, when I was a young man in my 20s, a 19-inch TV that had 12 channels cost me a week’s pay easy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 15 :
A week’s pay, and I had to get up and walk over to change the channel. Today, I have a 65-inch flat-screen TV With Wi-Fi enabled, remote control, the dot per DPI resolution is incredible, and I can buy it for less than a day’s pay. Yep. Yep. So you’ve gone to what is clearly something 500% to 1,000% better for 20% of the price, 20% of the cost. That’s right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, do you think if there was only one state-run TV factory, we would still be watching cathode ray tube television today?
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
We still would be, 100%. Because you could only buy the one TV. Where would be their incentive to make the cathode investment to retool the factory? To make it better, you know, less expensive, there wouldn’t be so much competition.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. I’ll play this clip really quick so we can get to break. Here we go. Here’s Ronald Reagan. Maybe. Here we go.
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Socialists believe humankind would be better off without economic freedom, and so they seek to replace it with rules and regulations. And if there’s one tragic lesson the 20th century has taught us, it is that the social engineers cannot tailor the human soul to fit the fashions of the present day, no matter how they try. For the truth is, men cannot design humankind. Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well said.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. That’s it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well said. Can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 15 :
So I hope you and Sonny can expand on that tomorrow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. I’ll get her to do that. Joe, as always, I appreciate you, man, very much.
SPEAKER 15 :
My pleasure. All right, man.
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back. John from Cheyenne, what’s up?
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, before I go to my subject, big shout out to Paul Leuenberger. I was on the phone with him today about, because I’m American national, so my policy’s done when it expired. And he, what a top shelf guy. I mean, he’s a great guy. He really did right by me, so. No complaints. Anybody out there in Wyoming or Colorado needs new insurance because your insurance gives Paul a call. Absolutely. I’ll do your commercial for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you. I appreciate that very much. I was actually communicating with him today as well, so that’s awesome.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, he’s great. So, you know, when you were at the top of the hour, you had the guest on, and you were talking about that episode of In Search Of.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I remember watching that show when I was in high school. Because it was on for like two years. And it was kind of like they made it like a real serious thing. But they were looking for Bigfoot in one episode. It was more of a drama that they tried to make like a documentary. So when I hear that clip of Leonard Nimoy, I have to laugh. Because… Do you remember the Newsweek cover?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yes, I sure do. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’re old enough. I was starting my senior year.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re a little bit older than me, but I still remember all of that. I remember that particular winter that he’s talking about, too, the winter of 77. I remember that winter.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I remember the winter of 78 in New York. It was February. We got 27 inches of snow in like a 24-hour period in New York City. Wow. And it shut down. You know what? But that was the old days. It didn’t fully shut the city down because all the subways that ran underground or the elevated lines, they ran. My uncle was a motorman for MTA. He drove the trains. And he was expected to walk to the nearest subway station to get to work. But, you know, it wasn’t a choice.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think, you know, and I’m not trying to be rude, John, by any means, but I think guys were more robust back then than they are today. That’s just my opinion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, that’s our fault.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can’t argue that one.
SPEAKER 14 :
We’ve raised, you know, it’s the everybody get a trophy kid that doesn’t know how to walk or anything. I remember my daughter was telling me about a year ago, a year and a half ago, when they first went out to sea, and it was the first time in a long time, the CAG, she was part of the carrier air group, went out to sea. And in the Navy, it’s kind of soft until you pull out of port, and then the old 80s, 70s Navy, Vietnam-era Navy shows up. And she was like, these kids were in shock at how much more discipline they were just required to when they were out on that ship and, you know, in possible hostage, they were in the Gulf for three months. So that was hostile territory and they didn’t put it. And she said, a lot of young sailors that were talking about making it a career or like, this ain’t for me when my four years is up, I’m done because they saw the difference between like, you know, shore duty and sea duty. So, and is that, you know, It’s just a different generation. I mean, it scares me that some of these kids are going to, you know, be in charge one day and have to take care of us. We’re real old. One other comment real quick. I don’t know. I think I forwarded it to you. It was an article in Cowboy State Daily a couple of days ago about a guy who was in a wilderness area, stepped wrong and broke his leg. He was in good shape. And his wife had to walk three miles out to the road, and then she hitched a ride by some guy going along, told him what happened, so she could make a cell call. Right then and there, I just read that article, and I was like, That’s why you buy a satellite transponder.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, there’s ways around that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Or, you know, have a satellite service on your phone.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think Apple started with a 14.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I have it on mine.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, it’s available. Have you tried it in the middle of nowhere where you have no cell service? It works. It works. But that was an eye-opener. When I read that article, I thought I might have forwarded it to you. It was on X, but… tagged in it, but it was very interesting how all of a sudden people are not using technology where they should in that situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just wanted to try to name you on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, great point. No, I appreciate it. No, John, thank you as always. Appreciate you very much. You too, John. Appreciate it. I didn’t mean to cut you off. Sorry. Yeah, we’ll take a quick break here in a moment. Before that, somebody just texted this in, and I’m looking at it right now. Cracker Barrel is going back to the old logo. Now, I wasn’t going to talk about this today. I might get into this a little bit more tomorrow. Actually, Bob and I are going to record the podcast in the morning, and this is one of our topics, is Cracker Barrel. Now, I learned something last night, which I did not know. I follow a guy on social media that was one of Trump’s insiders. He was in the last administration and so on. I can’t remember his name off the top of my head, but I follow him because— He’s pretty accurate in the things he talks about. He’s not one of these, you know, guys that just gets off on all of the, you know, conspiracy theories and hyping things up and so on. He’s not that. He’s very centered and I think does a really good job. And his feeling on why the new CEO of Cracker Barrel is doing all of what they’re doing is to make one big distraction because they have had lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit from not only employees but customers for bad behavior, racially speaking. In other words, they won’t promote certain people because of the color of their skin. They seat different customers in different parts of the restaurant because of the color of their skin and and and. And supposedly there’s another new like three million dollar lawsuit as we speak coming out. And basically what she’s doing is trying to distract customers. and do all of this other stuff to keep people from really understanding what’s going on behind the scenes at Cracker Barrel. Now, I have not verified any of that. I probably need to, although I will tell you the source of this in this particular person, I, again, I’m not saying that’s the gospel truth because everything needs to be verified, but I don’t have much reason to believe this individual would be lying. In other words, his feeling is there’s a lot of conservatives that go to Cracker Barrel that shouldn’t be because it’s not really what, pardon the pun, it’s not cracked up to be what it seems. It’s not quite as down to earth as maybe everybody thinks. So I’m going to do a little more investigation on Cracker Barrel to determine if what I heard last night was really true. In fact, I need to do that before I do the podcast in the morning with Bob, because I think I already know where Bob’s going to come from on this, and I don’t think Bob knows what I’m talking about. I don’t think most do. I didn’t know that. I hadn’t heard anything about any of these previous lawsuits that they’ve had. So I’m going to do a little bit of digging tonight and or first thing in the morning. And I’ll let you guys know, probably even via the podcast and the recording of. what’s really going on. But it sounds to me like there’s a lot more stuff going on behind the scenes at Cracker Barrel than probably most know. I’ll do some digging and find out. Monaheit Coin coming up next. Free appraisals for KLZ listeners. Just talk to David Gonzalez, 720-370-3400.
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Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, that’s it for today. Wrapping things up. Tomorrow, I have actually got a special day, Health and Wellness Wednesday, with Dr. Kelly, Victory, and Steve House. Because of the holiday and things that are coming up, we did a little switch around this week. They were both able to make tomorrow work. We don’t normally do that for health and wellness. Normally, we do that on a Thursday, but they’ll be joining me tomorrow. A lot of you like to ask questions. Tomorrow’s going to be more focused on health and wellness from Dr. Kelly’s point of view, which some of you have even been asking for some of that. So I’ll have her tomorrow. If there’s a question you’ve got specifically, please send me a text, 307-200-8222. I’ll get those in my show notes for tomorrow and ask her those questions. In the meantime, have a fabulous evening. Stay safe out there. We’ll be back tomorrow. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
Capitalism vs. Socialism: Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, and the American Dream
Join John Rush and guests for a dynamic episode packed with sharp debate and eye-opening commentary. From the secretive judicial “education” programs funded by climate activists to a nostalgic look back at the doomsday predictions of the 1970s, this episode unflinchingly separates fear from facts. Discover how voluntary exchange—not government compulsion—has lifted more people out of poverty, as John and callers highlight classic wisdom from Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan. Plus, expect quick dives into viral news, market-moving insights on Cracker Barrel’s corporate drama, and real talk about honesty in business and government. If you crave bold, insightful radio
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