This hour of Drive Radio mixes classic car nostalgia with practical advice for modern vehicle owners. Listeners call in with ideas for discontinued vehicles that deserve a comeback, including the Willys Jeepster, original Volkswagen Beetle, Jeep CJ, El Camino, Ranchero, and other stripped-down classics built for simplicity and durability.
The crew also tackles real-world automotive headaches, including theft-deterrent system issues on an older Ford Explorer, whether catch cans are worth installing on Silverado engines, and how DIY mechanics can protect themselves from warranty disputes. John Rush explains how documenting maintenance through Carfax, photos, and records can help owners avoid future
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SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, welcome back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath at Geno’s Auto Service over in Littleton. We are back, hour number three. Thanks for listening. John in Denver, you’re next. Go ahead. Thanks for waiting, by the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hi. Yeah, I have a 1983 Dodge 318 engine that I’ve completely rebuilt. It’s bored 30 over. Crank’s been turned with all new gaskets, bearings. Pistons, rings, all that stuff. And you can hear it. I’ve got it for sale. You can hear it run. I’ve got an upgraded electronic ignition in it and also a performance cam shaft.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Trying to sell it for $300.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ll tell you what. And what are you asking again, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
Only $800. I’m losing money big time. Yeah, it’s worth that. $1,600, $1,600 in it all together. Oh, goodness.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, let’s do this. I’m going to put you on hold, let Larry get your phone number, because we don’t want to get phone numbers out over the radio for obvious reasons. So we’ll let Larry get your phone number. So any of you listening, 83-318, and you can do the homework on what else that would fit. I’m not an expert in that area, John, so you’d have to help somebody with what other years that might actually fit into. But for $800, yeah, I don’t see anybody out there could go wrong on that. Right. I’ll put you on hold. Let Larry get your phone number. Those of you listening, if you want to get a hold of John, we’ll get his phone number from Larry, and we can put that back out to you. And that way, if there’s any interest in that, we can make that happen. Now, for those of you that decide you want to sell an item, and I talk about this. I think I did. I’ve got to go back and look. I’ve done so many extra miles now. I don’t know if I did an entire extra mile on selling things or not. But when you’re selling things on the Internet in general, especially when it comes to Facebook, Marketplace, Craigslist is pretty much a thing of the past now. Not very many people are doing anything along those lines. It’s sort of lost its flavor, unfortunately. But at the end of the day, you can sell on Marketplace. But you’ve got to be careful.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, you know, my rule of thumb is, you know, try your best not to sell things from your home. In this case, an engine is going to be tough because you’re not going to be able to transport that. So you’re probably going to have to. But you really need to be selective on the people that you’re talking to, meeting. And if you do it a little bit, you kind of get you really do get an idea of who’s legit and who’s not. Even the language of the person messaging. and what they’re messaging tells you a lot about the individual and how well they do or don’t do and how good of a person they will be or not be, I should say. So if you need help with any of that, please let me know. I’m more than happy to help each and every one of you when it comes to that. I want you to be safe. I don’t want anybody getting defrauded on the Internet. They can. You can be, I should say. So I want you to be extremely cautious with that. So if you ever need any help on that, please send me a message, and I’ll be happy to help you out. Bob in Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John, thanks for taking my call. Sure. I’ve been doing a lot of research on the 6-liter Silverado, and it seems like, for whatever reason, they create a lot of crankcase pressure. And so I probably should have called you before I put this on, but I put a catch can on. Okay. You think that’s a good idea, or did I mess up?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, you can’t go wrong putting one on. I’m just not sure. Unless the engine’s got a ton of blow-by, I don’t know that it’s a necessity. And I guess that’s the question. How much blow-by? What year is it, by the way, Bob? And how many miles?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s got like 91,000 on it. It’s a 2009. Okay, 2009. Yeah, the truck itself is just pretty much immaculate. Okay. And I take good care of it. You know, I had to do quite a bit of work on it because we had a lifter go bad. But when we took off the intake, there was a fair amount of oil in that intake. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Does it use oil? Yeah. What’s that? Does it use oil?
SPEAKER 08 :
I filled it full, and now it’s down. So on the dipstick, there’s four marks, and it’s on the second mark up from the bottom. So I don’t know what those marks indicate. I don’t know if that’s a quart low, but it’s lower than when it’s completely full.
SPEAKER 03 :
When the engine’s running and you take the fill cap off, do you see blow-by coming out of the crankcase at that point? In other words, and if you just let the cap just kind of rest there, does it want to push it off? No. Okay, then there’s not that much blow-by.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which is a good thing. That’s a good thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is a good thing. So I probably just wasted a bunch of money.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, for all of you listening, Bob, I’m not criticizing at all. You know me. I would never do that. But, yeah, these are cases where before you guys spend money on some of this stuff, send me a quick text message or email because what I would have said is exactly what I just said. What does the oil cap do with the engine running? And I would have said, yeah, don’t buy one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Got it. Yep. And, you know, what I thought about that was today when I heard your show, and I thought, oh, man, I should have called before I bought this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, and again, are you hurting anything putting it on? No, Bob. Other than your wallet? No, you didn’t hurt a thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good. All right. That’s what I was worried about, because I thought, oh, man, now that I went to work on figuring this thing out and putting it on, hopefully I didn’t mess something up to where it’s going to hurt something.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you’re not hurting anything by doing that. Absolutely not. No issues whatsoever.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, John. Thank you so much. And, you know, the lesson learned next time before I do anything, I’m calling you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just ask me. Call, ask, text, email, whatever, Bob. I mean, even on those things, I mean, you don’t have to wait until a Saturday when we’re on air live. You can text or email, and I’ll answer that quickly. I do the same thing. I text him. Yeah. Not a problem. It’s always easy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Thank you, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bob, I appreciate you very much. Thank you. And yeah, by no means am I criticizing Bob. All I’m saying is for some of you, and most of you, you do this all the time, actually. I get questions all the time on, hey, I’ve got this problem. I’m looking at this product. I’m doing this. I’m doing that. And, again, in some of these cases, I’ll ask you some questions first as to, you know, do we really need said product? You know, is it doing what we’re trying to fix by buying said product? And if it’s not, well, then, no offense, unless you really want to, you know, don’t waste the money because you don’t need to in a lot of cases. So I’m always here to help you guys with that. It’s never a problem. Don’t feel like you’re, you know, bothering me or anything. I’ve got, you know, time I squeeze in between a lot of other things that I do and never a problem to answer back on. emails or text messages or what have you. So by all means, please let me know on that, and I’m more than happy to help. So Steve and I will be right back. Lines are open 303-477-5600. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, here we go, guys. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Steve Horvath with me. And, excuse me, Steve with me, of course, from Geno’s Auto Service. And Larry’s answering phones. He’ll get you handled here as quickly as he can. Let’s jump to Rob in Centennial. Rob, go ahead, sir. You’re up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hello, John. Hello, Steve. Good morning. Steve, you’ll be pleased to know that I spent a while last week underneath that van again. Oh, you did? Rolling two aftermarket steering members to the rear. They go from the steering rack holder to the central cross member and lock it into place there. And, you know, taking out a steering rack nut out of impact wrenches is an amazing experience.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 09 :
One that I really could have done without. Two ratchet wrenches, one on either side of the bolt and the nut. Working in opposite directions, there was a scream like the dead when I was finally getting a broken move. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
They need a little more.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nothing puts you in mind of how much you love cars and automotive when you’re lying flat on your back and log nuts are dropping in your face.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
So anyway, it does stiffen up the steering wheel. You’re supposed to get quite an improvement because the whole rack is not flexing any longer. It’s locked up as crossmember, and you get more precision control. And that’s a manual steering, so you need all the help you can get.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you need all of that. Oh, cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I was thinking, when you guys were talking about what car should come back from the grave, the original Jeep, I mean, as bare bones as possible would be something. The Indians are still making those and selling them. I mean, it’s basically the old original U.S. lines. In fact, there’s so much 1940s, they can’t sell them over here because of the pollution and the acts of control.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know what? You’re right. You’re correct. Yes. Yeah, you’re right on that.
SPEAKER 09 :
People still want the really classic quad Jeep, the kind of Jeep that the idea was if it got into a ditch, the four guys inside could pick it up and get it out of there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And just a really basic platform with trouble is we over-fancied everything. High-tech could also produce a simplified engine. I was telling Larry that the other thought is to bring back the bug from the grave. Imagine a modern air-cooled engine with all the modern refinements and metallurgy and cooling systems and electronics, but bare bones and no radiator to take care of all the sort of things that most people want to do. A cheap, functional car that is easy to replace. You just pull the engine, drop a new one into it. And I prefer internal combustion because you’re not, like, on that battery pack around with you wherever you go. So dirt cheap, like the Fiat, like the old Honda. Remember the original Honda that had the 600cc motorcycle engine in it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was a bare-bones car, but it was functional. It was also relatively safe. They did this with a smart car, and they did add it up so much that it was too expensive and didn’t do it very much worth the trouble. But something like the original Fiat, the original Bug, the original Jeep, bare-bones platform, stripped down with all the modern technology, making it simple, not complicated, to have a basic transportation. The kids aren’t enjoying cars, but that’s because they don’t appreciate the cheap, freedom of movement. I had a little Kawasaki G5A 100cc motorcycle, and I finally got that thing running and rode it around. I was free. I could go anywhere I wanted to, whenever I wanted to, as long as it was sunny. And getting the old practicality, this is what the car is good for, is something I think we could still do to help and save the industry.
SPEAKER 06 :
The only thing they complained about a lot with the air-cooled was that they couldn’t control the emissions enough. Right. So that’s what kind of buried them. But I wonder now with direct injection and things like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly, now the technology is better.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and with distributist injection, could we get it there? And would there be a market for it?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, a car that’s so advanced, it’s simple.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah. No, and by the way, everything that Steve just said on the air-cooled side, that’s very, very, very true. You can’t control emissions well enough because you can’t control the heat well enough to really keep the combustion chamber where it needs to be to help on the emissions side. That’s why air-cooled doesn’t do as well. Or it overheats.
SPEAKER 09 :
There’s thermoelectric generators on the side of it that take the heat and turn it into electricity and power the vehicle’s electronics with it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
At the same time, you’re draining away the heat.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s just that this is how Elon Musk made himself the richest man on the planet. He took an existing situation, looked at it, and said, how can we do this with the tech to make it simpler? And you get into Tesla, and it drives for you, ideally. But a very basic road car that could go places where you need to have high ground clearance, which you’ll soon forget how wonderful that can be, and robust, simple construction with drop-in, drop-out repairs, I think you’d sell them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Possibly. I mean, again, back to some of what I said earlier in the show. I mean, as you know, Rob, and I’m not saying these people are always right, but these manufacturers spend a boatload of money on marketing studies, focus groups, all sorts of things to determine what kind of product would work, wouldn’t work, and so on. And do I always agree with some of what they do? No. And I think some of their focus groups in that, by the way, can be very – wrong and sometimes even tainted depending upon who’s putting the group on and what they’re doing. And so I’ve attended some of those focus groups over the years so I can attest to some of what I just said. And I’m not saying those are always right, but that’s what they use to figure out what products they want to do and not do.
SPEAKER 09 :
As food for thought, people have done a good job of reviving two-stroke engines. A lot of people are converting boat engines to work with motorcycles again. And you can actually pass emissions with them if you know what you’re doing and adjust things correctly. And, again, that’s where the tech comes in. Old technology made up with new technology to solve problems that they never bothered to solve because they went to the next level of technology.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just a thought. No, you’re right. Rob, as always, I appreciate it. Always great thoughts, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
Same here.
SPEAKER 03 :
You bet. Thank you, man. Have a great rest of your day. Jim and Centennial, you’re next. Go ahead, Jim. Hey, John. How are you doing today? Good.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, have you heard this kind of trend going on for do-it-yourselfers with manufacturers and warranty companies, like turning down claims because they’re saying the receipts aren’t good enough, that it’s not proving that you actually did the oil change? It’s just showing you’ve gone.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I have not. I have not heard that.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I’ve been hearing some of this kind of on the news and stuff where, yeah, they’re cracking down on the do-it-yourselfers. saying that there’s no proof that you actually did the oil change. There’s proof that you bought it but didn’t do it. What would you maybe suggest for us do-it-yourselfers like myself to maybe protect ourselves from something like that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Go figure out where your Carfax account is for that particular car. Every owner has access to their own Carfax account. account and you can actually go in there and put in when you actually do oil changes mileage when you do a tire rotation etc and my recommendation would be to do that not that that’s any better than the receipts because you could do that still not do the oil change but i think it’s just one more thing to solidify things jim
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. I was also even thinking about, man, just really protect yourself. Take pictures or paused videos of you doing it yourself or something. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is, although I think even taking a picture of, hey, here’s oil coming out of the drain plug, kind of stand back to make sure that it is, in fact, your car and so on and so forth, and your video idea is not a bad idea just to protect yourself. I’ve not heard of that being a big deal. No one has called in here saying, uh… ever to this point and ever said that a manufacturer turned on a claim because of them not performing an oil change in and by the way the way that would work legally speaking jim if everybody else listening if the if a dealership of the factor of a denied a claim that hey this engine went bad because you didn’t change oil It’s up to them to prove that the oil never got changed, oil analysis and so on, to prove that that’s the case. So the proof has to come from them. You don’t have to prove you did it. And that’s where you’d have to push back and say, OK, guys, fine. Prove I didn’t. Prove I didn’t change oil. Show me that I didn’t. The proof is on your side now. And any attorney would run with that all day long.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, great. I didn’t know you could do that with Carfax.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and by the way, for all of you listening that are do-it-yourselfers, am I a big Carfax fan? I mean, it is what it is. I’m not saying that it’s good, bad, or otherwise. It’s just there. It is something that is getting used more and more. Most shops that are of the high-tech realm or in the high-tech realm, Jim, like Steve over here, they’re reporting to Carfax when you do an oil change and things like that. And it’s kind of becoming the standard now. And, again, I’m not saying that’s foolproof because you could go in there on your own and say you did your oil change and you didn’t. But I think most people think, wait a minute, time out. If this guy’s taking enough time to go in, create a Carfax account for his car, record all the things that you do from tire rotations to changing wiper blades to this, that, and the other, you know what? I think you’re just protecting yourself by doing so. You’re not hurting it at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s great. Great. Thank you very much. That’s something new. I’ll start doing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And by the way, great topic. I have never heard of that, so thank you for mentioning that because that’s something that you guys do, and I do things myself as well. Yes, let’s protect ourselves. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jim. Appreciate it. And, yeah, a lot of you may have not known that, and I’ve done that in the past on certain vehicles. I don’t do it on every vehicle. Maybe I should, but I don’t. You can actually go in and create your own account or find – maybe I should say it this way. You can find your account because that account is there. For all of you that maybe don’t know, Carfax is already tracking – your vehicle whether you do the repairs and maintenance yourself or not and here’s what i mean by that when you buy the car it’s been tracked when you register the car it’s been tracked if you do an emissions test it’s tracked if you go to steve’s and get an oil change it’s tracked so there’s a lot of things that you don’t even know are being tracked on the car that are and you have access to that and what you have to be really careful of though and this is where for the do-it-yourselfers make sure when you go in and record what you’re doing, you are super accurate with your mileage. It’s very difficult in Carfax to change the mileage if you’ve made an incorrect input. So let’s say the car’s got 35,020 miles, and you make a mistake and put a one in front. So now it’s 135,000 miles. It’s very difficult to go backwards And get rid of the one is my point. So when you’re doing these entries, just be really cautious. Double check your entries on mileage. Not so much the rest of the stuff you’re doing, but on the mileage end of things, really make sure you’re double checking to make sure that everything is accurate because it’s really difficult to go into Carfax and fix those things.
SPEAKER 06 :
And sometimes they do get Our information is not always the same when they’re pulling it from our machine to putting it in there. It’s not always exactly right. But it’s pretty darn close. Yeah. And it gives you a very good picture of how the car’s been treated.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. And so for those that are do-it-yourselfers where you may rotate a car every three or four years and you want to get top dollar out of the car, use Carfax because you will get more money out of it by having these things tracked even though you’re doing it yourself. Yeah. Just a rule of thumb there, help you guys out. We’ll come back. We’ve got a half hour left of Drive Radio. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. Myself, Steve Horvath. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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Okay, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Question of the day. If you had an old, discontinued vehicle that they no longer make that you could resurrect, bring back, and drive, modernize it, and so on, what would that be? Somebody said the El Camino and the Ranchero. So there’s an answer for you coming in off the text line. Thank you guys very much. I appreciate that. Scott and Cheyenne, you’re next.
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Yeah, can you hear me?
SPEAKER 03 :
I can.
SPEAKER 12 :
I’m calling for my car. Yeah, you were talking about Carfax and everything they record, and it triggered me. It’s actually an emotional trigger. Some young lady, when I was at the coffee shop the other day, backed her car into my one-month-old Kia Sportage, which was very traumatic.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 12 :
But what she did is it’s going to get taken care of at a dealership. and it looks like it’s cosmetic, but they’re going to have to replace the bumper because it’s plastic. I wondered if I needed to be pushing their insurance company for a depreciation recovery, or does that depend on what the damage actually is?
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re going to have some, we call it diminished value, Burke Payne, who advertises with us and can help you with all of this, Scott, by the way. Even though you’re in Cheyenne, he’s more than willing to help you along those lines. And typically it’s a phone call to him, tell him what you’ve got going on. He’ll tell you either, hey, I can help you, or here’s what to do. You don’t need my help. He can walk you through that one way or the other. You will have diminished value no matter what because it will go on Carfax.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so what was the, can I get that, do I go to your website to get it?
SPEAKER 03 :
You can, or let me see if I’ve got it handy. Give me one second here. Let me see if I can grab it for you really quick. His number is 720.
SPEAKER 1 :
720. 295.
SPEAKER 03 :
295. 10, or 0108. So 295-0108. 295.
SPEAKER 12 :
2950108. 2950108. You got it. 720 prefix.
SPEAKER 1 :
720.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you very much. And just talk to Burke. Tell him you listen to the show. He’ll be more than happy to help you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep, she was a much better human being than she was a driver.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it happens, unfortunately.
SPEAKER 12 :
She hung around to let me know.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s why they’re called accidents. Scott, thanks. Appreciate you very much. And, yeah, I should mention that. I did a whole segment on the extra mile last week. And for those of you that are in any kind of an accident, and I mean any kind of an accident, if it gets reported on Carfax, you’re going to get dinged on the value of the car. How much kind of depends on the severity of the accident, where it’s been hit, so on and so forth. Again, these are things that Burke Payne is an expert in, and he can tell you, yes, this is what we need to be going after the insurance company for. You’re not going to get that kind of money out of the car for these reasons, and he can either go to bat for you or show you what to do depending upon the severity and what needs to happen next. So Burke will help you with all of that. Chris and Morrison, you’re next. Yes, sir. How you doing? Doing great. Thanks for calling. Great.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got a 2004 Explorer, and it has the all-wheel drive. It also has a theft deterrent system, and it has the five-button double-tap keyboard on the driver’s side, and I also have key fobs for the keyless entry. And anyway, I haven’t started this thing in three years. And I know that when I pulled the battery out of it, that the security system was set and the doors were locked, et cetera, et cetera. And from what I’ve read, at least according to GM, I realize it’s a Ford, but my Ford manuals don’t say anything about the security system. And I do not have the original manual. owner’s manual for it okay so what I need to know like I said I pulled the battery out of it and the security system was on and from what I’ve read if you do that when you go to put a battery back into it the security system thinks that somebody’s trying to break into the vehicle so when I get into the vehicle although I can get the door locks to activate I put the key in the ignition switch and and go to turn it over. The engine cranks, but I’m not getting any fuel pressure. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it’s a 2000. Make sure that I’m hearing that correctly.
SPEAKER 1 :
2000?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it’s got the 5 liter. Okay. I’m sure that’ll make a difference in the CPU. Whatever it is I’m trying… You see you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you’re talking the original factory Ford anti-theft, the PATS system they called it back then. Yes. Yes, I am. And that one typically shouldn’t have any issues. That thing could sit dead for years and years and years and years, put a new battery in it and the chip in the key. should be getting picked up by the PATS system, and you shouldn’t have any issues at all. If it’s not building fuel pressure and all of that, and I can’t say this for sure because I’m not in front of the vehicle, but I highly doubt that’s the theft system. You probably have something else going on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Oh, and that’s another thing. It does have a light on the dashboard. It’s a red theft light, T-H-E-F-T, and it flashes about every three or four seconds, and I’m thinking that’s just a deterrent. It’s not telling me that the system’s actually yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
And typically on those, and I’m kind of going back in my memory here, but typically if the theft deterrent is active, it will not crank and even turn over. Usually there’s a no-crank situation there. Now, again, that’s a long time ago. I mean, that’s a 25-, 26-year-old vehicle now, and I haven’t worked on one of those in quite some time. And those of you out there listening that have, if you want to chime in on the text line or whatever, be my guest. Feel free to do so because it’s been a while since I’ve worked on one of those. Now, here’s another thing you might try, and I’m doing this from looking up some information as we’re talking. You can do a basic reset, which is you put the key in, put it in the on position, leave that for 10 or 15 minutes, don’t start it. Okay. And then try to start it and see what happens. Yeah, what you’re trying to do is reset the PAT system.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay, that’s what I was saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’re trying to get that system to relearn the key, I guess is what I’m really trying to say.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay. So put the battery in, and then put the key in the ignition, and then I turn it to on, but don’t start it. Correct. Wait 10 to 15 minutes.
SPEAKER 03 :
The next step, if that doesn’t work, and I’m following this step by step, if that doesn’t work, then put the key in the driver’s door, turn it to the unlock position, and hold it for 30 seconds.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, and that’ll be interesting. The previous owner had the driver’s door lock replaced. and they didn’t have a key for it. So I might need to swap out some, or if anything, I can pull out the cylinder. and maybe operate it manually.
SPEAKER 03 :
And our goal here is to get that light to stop flashing because if it’s flashing, that probably means the theft deterrent is working to some extent or the key’s not registering with the PATS system. And by the way, that could also be, if we do all these resets and it still doesn’t work, could be there’s a bad key, could be that the module itself has got a problem, the PATS module, it’s lost its programming. There can be some other things going on if we don’t get it to reset, Chris.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, really quick, too, do you have more than one key?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do, and I was just thinking about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, because have you tried the second key is my other question.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I can’t really tell you. The last time I drove this thing, I know that both keys would work for it, and both key fobs also work for it, too. One of them is a three-button from Ford. The other one is a four-button with engine crank from Ford. But it’s an Italian maker.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Try to use your Ford one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, yes. And then that second reset the procedure, put the key in the driver’s side door and set it to unlock.
SPEAKER 03 :
And hold for 30 seconds. For 30 seconds.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay. I will see what I can do there. And push comes to shove. Maybe check the fuel system. See, I’ve got to get this thing moved in four days. They’re coming through my neighborhood. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 06 :
You might check the, you know, they have that little inertia switch that turns off the fuel pump. Oh, that’s true.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I’ve already checked that. Okay. That would be the thing. That’s the first thing I checked. Good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Someone could have bumped it over the five years. You never know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s true.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Well, great.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, try all that and see what happens, Chris, and you can email me if you need to.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great, all right.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, appreciate you very much. We’ll take one last break, come back, finish out the program. We’ve got lines open. If you’ve got other questions, please get them in. We’ll get them answered, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Steve Horvath with me today, Geno’s Auto Service. Gina in Colorado Springs, you’re next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Sarah. I enjoy your program very much, and I’ve learned so much. Well, thank you. Anyway, I was just wondering, I’m hearing people talk about cars in yesteryear, and I never hear anything mentioned about the Willys Jeepster.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s funny you say that. During one of the breaks, Steve and I were actually talking about the Commandos and the Jeepsters, and you’re right. And I think mainly, Gina, most people don’t know about… that vehicle they weren’t as you know weren’t super popular even when they were you know built and new and they never really took off they were an interesting vehicle i worked on plenty of those back in the day but into this day they still have really never taken off
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my goodness, my mother couldn’t. She saw one, and she had to have it, so she went to her father, who could never resist anything, and said, Daddy, Daddy, please buy me the car. And he took a look at it and said it was the biggest piece of foolishness he’d ever seen, but he couldn’t resist giving it to her. And it had a soft top, and it had a collapsible passenger seat that folded up and went forward. And the windows were… They weren’t glass. What were they? I don’t know the right word.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I can’t remember the technical name of that. No, they weren’t glass. They were, oh, jeez, I’ll think of it in a second.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m sorry, I can’t. I was a little girl, and my mother just adored the car. It was yellow, and she called it Honeybug. And she just, my mother was a professional musician, and she couldn’t have cared less about cars.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
But she saw this car and had to have it.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what? Between you and I, Gina, I don’t know that I’ve ever seen one that wasn’t yellow. Oh, really? Even all the ones I worked on back in the day, they were all yellow. It is a cool-looking car.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is there a club that exists where one could go and see?
SPEAKER 03 :
That is a great question. I don’t know. You know what? I have no idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I’d love to know just because my sisters and I would like to see it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m looking it up right now. There is. There’s a Jeepster Commando Club, and it’s jeepstercommandoclub.com. And I don’t know whether they’ve got a Colorado chapter. I’d have to just go online and look. But there is the jeepstercommandoclub.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my goodness. Well, that sends me somewhere. But thank you again for your show.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re very welcome. Gina, thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
And as a single woman, I’ve learned a lot.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you for listening. I appreciate it greatly, and I’m happy to help. Yeah, it was funny. Steve and I were actually talking about the Jeepsters at one point, and I did work on those back in the day, believe it or not. Did you really? Yeah, they were interesting because they shared some parts with some of the other Jeep lineup, differential transmissions and transfer case, some of that kind of stuff. But outside of that, everything else, steering and springs and the frame and everything else was completely different from anything else that they made. And I had a good friend back in the day that actually had one that he took a – I think I’m going to make sure I say this right – He took a chassis, I believe, from, I can’t remember now, Wagoneer or something else, and modernized it and put the body back on that frame. And it actually worked extremely well and was way different than what they came with because they, frankly, weren’t a great vehicle to begin with. They just weren’t. Especially that era, they just weren’t a great vehicle. But, yeah, I worked on plenty of those cars.
SPEAKER 06 :
There’s a picture one here at the St. Louis Car Museum. But I assume that there were quite a few still out there.
SPEAKER 03 :
A good friend of mine just texted in, grandfather was a collector, had a green one. You know what, now that you say that, I may, now that I go back in my memory banks, I may have actually worked on a green one versus a yellow one. But the majority of them were yellow. Steve’s got a picture of a blue one. I never saw the blue one back in the day. I don’t know if that’s green or blue. Oh, the green one’s down here. Okay. Yeah, the green was like a turquoise kind of a color. And I think they had a dark green one as well. Whoever’s listening, please tell me that. Oh, real quick, too, I should announce this. Thank you for the text on this. The Golden Cruise. It’s the first Saturday of every month all the way through, I believe, October, and it starts in May. So tonight is the Golden Cruise. If you get a chance to go out and experience that and have fun, please do. It usually is a great event. I go to it periodically, although I didn’t make a single one last year. I just couldn’t make it all tonight. It’s all work. Anyways, those of you that are in that area or not, you can drive over. It’s on the west side of town. So it’s in Golden. And it’s a fun night. They do a lot of different things, restaurants and people parking parking lots. And a lot of folks show up. And it’s supposed to be a really nice night tonight. So you ought to be able to go over there and enjoy that and have a lot of fun. I’ve never done it. I should do that sometimes. It’s a lot of fun. Even if you just want to be a spectator, you don’t have a car to put in or anything. And by the way, it’s not putting in. If you have a car, you just drive and people get to see your car and so on. And anybody can drive and follow around and you can park and watch the cars come by and all of that. If you get there early enough, you can even get a sometimes you get a restaurant that’s got a patio. You can actually sit out and watch the cars come by and all that. So it’s kind of it’s not kind of it’s a fun night. If you get an opportunity to ever do that, it’s worth doing. Okay, one thing I want to talk about before we close out, which Steve was telling me earlier, and it’s a new training program for our industry, for the automotive world, and NAPA is doing this, and it’s very interesting. Steve, you were telling me about it earlier. Talk about that for a moment.
SPEAKER 06 :
So they’re going to be able to train up a technician in six months instead of two years by using VR glasses, and they’ll have a lot of programs built up where you where basically you’re using the glasses and you’re using two little handles and you’re picking up tools. You’re using them like doing a brake job. You can do a brake job literally.
SPEAKER 03 :
Virtually.
SPEAKER 06 :
Virtually.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you’re assigning the parts. You’re finding the parts. You’re being tested all the time. Where is the brake pads? Where are they? Okay. So that’s just part of what they’re going to be doing. So we’ll be able to train up technicians so much faster, and they’ll be able to learn that. And it also helps with the minds of the younger generation too. Sure. And then also they’ll be having some glasses that will be cameras on the glasses that will be helping the technician as they’re looking at the car whether they want to look up information or anything. They can just ask the glasses, you know, what is the specs on this particular… What are torque specs on this wheel or whatever the case may be. How much oil or… Like I was telling you earlier, I thought the best place would be when you’re trying to diagnose, you know… back probe a connector you know what is the which wire is it or you know right on the connectors at one or two what color will it be what kind of voltage we’ll be looking or what ohms or whatever you’re doing so very cool so instead of going to all data or shop key or whatever we’re all of the you know all the other information systems you’ll you’re getting it there on your immediately immediately it’ll just talk to you basically tell you so it’s all coming out it’s uh in shipment now it should be at my shop soon so i’ll be
SPEAKER 03 :
interested it’ll be a learning curve with all this stuff but it’ll be a good learning curve it’s the fun stuff of life now i’m going to dovetail that into some of you that are listening that might have influence on the younger generation or even have younger kids maybe they’re getting ready to graduate they’re trying to figure out what to do next listen if they’ve got any mechanical ability at all and it takes a we all know there’s different minds doing different things and so on but if they’ve got a mechanical mind and the ability to critically think and diagnose things and do step-by-step processes and so on, believe me, there is a huge need in all the trades, by the way. This includes plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and so on. I mean, I’m talking all trades, but the automotive industry especially. We are not replacing the guys that are retiring fast enough, meaning there continues to be a shortage of technicians, and that shortage is going to continue to grow until more new people come into the industry. And the reality, and Steve can attest to this, we’re not picking up enough new people coming into the industry, meaning those of you that are listening, and I’m being serious here, if we want to continue to get your car worked on and get it done at a reasonable price, we need more labor. Mm-hmm. Because what’s going to happen is as there’s less labor, supply and demand, as there’s less labor and these guys demand more hourly wages, the prices are going to continue to go up. The only way to offset that is having more labor.
SPEAKER 06 :
True. I think that statistic I was looking at was 65% of the shops are looking –
SPEAKER 03 :
for for technical help for help well and across the country i can tell you guys right now that you know out of all of the shops and i coach in fact the businesses that i coach uh all of them are looking for people now the automotive world especially but i don’t have any of my businesses that are not looking for people which goes to show you that steve is exactly right on that which is interesting that you know but other on the other side i’m hearing people having trouble finding jobs Well, and I think, and this is probably more from my daily program, but it really comes down to what have you trained yourself to do, what’s your abilities. If you’re in a job right now that you think might be ending because of AI or what have you, you probably ought to be looking at replacing that with something in the trades. That’s a whole other discussion we’ll get into. But, guys, thanks so much for listening. Steve, let folks know how to get a hold of you. Our phone number is 303-794-6700. And that’s Geno’s Auto Service. Larry Unger has been answering phones for us today. I appreciate that greatly. And don’t forget his daughter, Paula, on Neat Freak Solutions, a great new sponsor of ours. We’ve got a great new sponsor down in Colorado Springs as well. For those of you that need shop help down there, by all means, look them up. You can find all of them on our website. Go to drive-radio.com. You can find them there. Charlie Grimes, our engineer, as well. And, guys, thank you so much for listening. We appreciate it. We’ll see you next week. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 19 :
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