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Listen in as we explore the often overlooked but critical details of car ownership and transport, providing listeners with tips to ensure a seamless experience. Learn how vehicle reports from sources like Consumer Reports can sometimes offer a skewed perspective and why personal experience is paramount when choosing a car. Get informed on the procedures for transporting a car across states, including verifying VIN numbers and navigating the paperwork required for smooth state titling and emissions testing. This episode is packed with useful advice for both seasoned drivers and those new to car ownership, ensuring you’re equipped with the
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, it is Drive Radio, KLZ 560, last hour. Appreciate you all joining us today. Myself, Josh Goff, Legacy Automotive, Ridgeline Auto Brokers up in Boulder, Longmont. And for Collins, Alan Stack, Stack Optical with us again today. And Alan, before we move on, one thing I wanted you to talk about for all the folks that are listening is I think As with anything, there’s always these misconceptions and wives’ tales about, you know, well, what should I be wearing when I’m, you know, doing this particular activity? Or in this case, since we’re talking drive radio, you know, driving, daytime, nighttime. You know, is there a rule of thumb for what people should be looking at when it comes to, you know, eyewear and those conditions?
SPEAKER 12 :
Actually, that’s a good point. When we’re talking about night driving and we’re talking about, you know, yellow glasses for night driving. I’ve had many ophthalmologists say, don’t you put any of my patients in tinted lenses at night. Any tint you put in front of your eyes, you’re cutting down visible light to get to the eyes. Now you can enhance like yellow for, you know, like a snowstorm and that kind of thing can make a difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and it does. I have those that you made for me for that very reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
But just to put a yellow lens at night, no, that’s not what you want. Right. As far as driving, typically a good gray polarized lens is the best. If you’re not driving, golf course, you want to be in a brown. So depending on what you’re doing, yeah, you want to use the proper… But for driving, gray. Okay. Or that drive wear lens. That works out really… Now, that is a brown lens. Okay. But… It gives you a higher definition. And it also changes depending on light conditions and so forth. And you can’t get that in gray.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Now… For folks that might struggle with night driving especially, and I get some of the complaints that we’ll have, I’ll get even e-mails and text messages on, all these new LED lights are shining in my eyes. And even the people that have those cars, there’s nothing they can do about it. They didn’t build the car. It is what it is. It’s just the way the car has come. In some cases, there’s not even a lot of adjustability or they’re even self-adjusting, so you’re not going to do anything to change that. Is there anything people can wear in those cases to help?
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s a really good point. People are struggling with that. One, get an eye exam. A lot of times it could be a little bit of residual astigmatism.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
And once we correct that, all of a sudden you don’t have that big scatter of light. It brings it back down. And it’s just a little residual astigmatism. That doesn’t bother you any other time. Right. Except at night.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ll tell you personally, for me, one of the things that has helped with everything Alan just said, and I don’t wear any type of eyewear contacts, but no other eyewear when I drive at night because, and we had Roy and Dietze on from ProTech AutoShield a couple of weeks ago, they have a… Make sure I explain this correctly. They will tint the inside of your windshield, but it’s not a colorized tint. In other words, it’s not changing the color. It’s not smoke or anything along those lines, but it’s made in such a way that it’s cutting down on the UV light coming into the car. And I will tell you that it also helps with this glare problem that Alan’s talking about, especially when you have astigmatism, which I have. So I can tell you by tinting because I drive cars like I am this week where none of that’s on there and it’s just a raw car because it’s what the manufacturer has me test drive versus I go get in one of my own vehicles. And I will tell you, Alan, huge difference between mine coated and these other ones that are not driving at night with those lights coming at you with the stigmatism.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s a really good point. There’s a difference between coatings and the tints.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we actually have a coated lens for night driving.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
And it’s kind of a pinkish color and it’s like, oh, no. it does help with those lights.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I’ll just tell you.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is something new.
SPEAKER 05 :
Straight up, for those of you that might struggle with that issue, and I know everybody’s different, everybody’s eyes are a little different and so on, go see Alan. He’s got a fix for that. There’s an ability to help you on the night driving end of things when it comes to some of those things. And like Alan said especially, if nothing else, get an eye exam, find out exactly where you’re at before you do anything else. Exactly. I mean, that’s the first thing to do. And you can do all of that, right, Alan?
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, yeah. So for all of you, you can find Stack Optical.
SPEAKER 12 :
What’s your number really quick, Alan? 303-321-1578 or stackoptical.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
There you go. Make it easy. Or go to drive-radio.com. Alan’s there. You can see him. Josh, everybody that we’re affiliated with is also there as well. Okay, Josh, running back to the – this is something I was going to cover last week and never got around to. I figure since you’re here today, we can talk about this because this applies to a lot of what you guys do on the used car end of things, but also applies on the repair side. And that is people go out and they say, well, I see from consumer reports they say to buy this vehicle. Or I looked up the review on this car and this guy says, you know, X, Y, Z. And I’m like, okay, timeout, first of all. There’s a lot of things that go into those reports and the JD powers of the world and so on. And the reality is those are not always true pictures of what these vehicles actually are. Right. Are they? They’re not.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, usually Consumer Reports is, what, the first 5,000 miles? Maybe a long term is 15,000 miles. If you’re buying a used car, you’re not going to usually look at it until it’s 30,000, 40,000 miles. Or more. Or more, exactly. So it’s given a picture of the first owner in the first few months of the car’s life.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that quality and what those people, by the way, are reporting. And I will tell you straight up, I get questionnaires on filling out different things for some of the vehicles that I own on an ongoing basis. Mm-hmm. And I will tell you straight up, I rarely, if ever, fill one out. I’m busy. I got crap going on. And the last thing I’m going to do is spend 15 minutes on a survey. So here’s my point. Who’s really filling these things out? And my feeling is people with a lot of time on their hands. You usually fill these things out, and that’s not me or most of you that are listening to me. So who’s really giving you the report on how good these cars are is my point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and that’s probably somebody who’s not driving a lot either. Because if they have time on their hands, they’re probably not driving a whole lot because they’re not going a lot of places.
SPEAKER 05 :
Can’t argue that. So I look at all of those with… How do you want to say it? It’s part of the puzzle of looking at cars you want to buy. And we say this even in our reviews. You heard Richard and I even talk about it on the Yukon review we did just a little bit ago. You’ve got to get yourself in that car, drive it for yourself, see how you fit in the car. Not to pick on Alan, but does it fit in your garage if you’re going to park in the garage? True, true. His does barely, the one he just bought. But my point is, do some of those things on the front side before you actually buy the car so that you don’t regret what you bought.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Does that make sense, guys? That’s right. And so many people, they listen to the co-worker. They listen to a family member. They listen to a neighbor. They go to Consumer Reports. They watch a YouTube channel. I mean, you get all of this input. And they think, yep, that’s the car for me, yet they’ve never sat their butt in the seat to determine, is that really a car for me or not?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you have to get in the car and you have to drive it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Trust me, as somebody that drives a lot of different cars throughout the year, you hear the reviews and stuff that we do, no, they’re not all created equal. Now, they’re getting to where they’re much better than they used to be as far as, I think, even drivability, quality, what they do, and so on. But I will tell you this. And I’ll bet I’m not too far off. You could pretty much put me in the seat of any new car blindfolded. And I could darn near tell you by the feel of the wheel, where the controls and such are, how the seat feels. I can darn near tell you the model and type of car that I’m going to be getting into blindfolded just with those few things. And I’m not exaggerating. You drive a lot of cars. And I drive a lot of cars. And that’s just because you get to where you kind of know what each manufacturer does. with how things even feel with the seat and the wheel and the position of the wheel and, and, and. And it doesn’t take long to figure out what model of car, what type of car you’re in based upon the things that I just said. Because, no, they’re not all created equal as far as that goes.
SPEAKER 03 :
One thing I’m finding, too, is what level the car is at. Like if you buy the cheapest. Good point. So we had like a rash of Subaru Imprezas all about the same year. Okay. When I was driving the cheapest one, rattles, the way it rode, all these things you could feel. You get in the one that’s the top line, and it was almost a completely different car. Just it drove better, a lot less noise, you know, all these things. So sometimes it’s not even what make and model it is, it’s what level the car was at.
SPEAKER 05 :
What trim level is it? What trim level is it? Absolutely. All right, hang tight, guys. We’ll come right back. Mark in Denver, hang tight. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are Backdrive Radio, KLZ 560. Mark in Denver, you’re next. Go ahead, Mark.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good afternoon, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon, Mark.
SPEAKER 09 :
Last week I said I was going to fly to Tampa, pick up my wife’s Volvo convertible, and drive back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, the used one you found, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Two hours later, I came to my senses.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, I hope we helped a little.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you know what? You just stare at yourself in the mirror and go, are you stupid? No. A transport truck is bringing it back right now, and I paid $1,400, which I think is a good deal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you did fine. You did really well. Nothing wrong with that, Mark.
SPEAKER 09 :
So when this transport drops this vehicle, besides paying the guy, what should I be looking for besides overlooking the vehicle? Is there paperwork or is there documentation? What should I look for?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so you bought it from a dealer. Is that right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you’ve already paid for the car and all that’s handled, so it’s on the transport now. What paperwork have they either said they’ve sent or sent to you so far? They should have FedExed you some stuff already.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I will be getting the paperwork title and all that stuff. Plus, I initially told them I was going to drive back, so they charged me tax. And so the refunding by tax.
SPEAKER 05 :
They’re going to refund you that, yeah, because you’ll pay that here.
SPEAKER 09 :
And all the documentation, the paperwork, the title, all that’s come in registered mail.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, perfect. The driver themselves won’t have anything other than just the transport documents, and you’ll need to sign off on the car not having any damage on it when it arrives. So what you’re going to look at, Mark, is everything, depending upon how it’s being transported and what you can see, look under it, look around it, pop the hood. Look inside of it. Make sure that everything is as far as what you know it was when it left there. It needs to be the same.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, this is an enclosed transport. I wasn’t going to do open.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, you should, I mean, again, just, you know, things can still get weird with these guys transporting. As you know, did they tie it down correctly? On and on we go. So just, you know, just go over it with a fine-tooth comb, make sure everything’s good. But, no, paperwork-wise, all they’ll have is a sign-off on, the car came to you, you know, complete, done, handled, and you’re signing off on its quality at that time.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, it’ll be here about… Tuesday or Wednesday, and then it’s going to go right straight over to the repair shop on Monday, and I can’t even drive it. I can get a benchmark on maintenance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Perfect. Yeah, you shouldn’t have any of the issues. I mean, I’ve had cars that I’ve done that same way, and that’s all you’re going to get. All the other paperwork is going to come in FedEx.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. I’ve never done this before. You’ve done it many times. I don’t know what I’m doing. obviously driving back from Tampa by myself.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, the one thing I would probably do, you could do it even after you get it back from the repair shop. Are they going to send you a temp tag with all of that to at least give you 30, 45 days or so, or did they say?
SPEAKER 09 :
I already sent them my insurance card so they install the temp tag on the car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, perfect. Okay, so it’ll have a temp tag. That gives you time to get it over to the repair shop, get everything done, what’s needed there. You will then have to get, of course, an emissions test, and while you’re there, make sure they do the VIN verification at the same time because you’ll need that to go to the courthouse to get your plates.
SPEAKER 09 :
Don’t make me go to emissions, please.
SPEAKER 05 :
You have to. Sorry.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t want to go. I’ll pay you to go for me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, I don’t go either. You usually have somebody go for me, Mark, so no, I don’t go either, but I’m with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
The last time I went to the missions, this guy weighed about 250 pounds, and he got my 911, and he kept looking for the engine.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, so, Mark, here’s an idea, and you can probably get this done. Whoever does the other work to the car, say, listen, I don’t care what you charge me, as long as it’s within reason. Take that thing over, get me a VIN verification and an E-test while you’re at it. And they will.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s a really good idea, and I’ll just walk out of there laughing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no, they’ll do it all for you. I did it for my customers back in the day constantly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, they can go through pain and suffering down there.
SPEAKER 05 :
The biggest thing is just make sure that when they do it that they don’t forget to get the VIN verification. That’s a separate document you’ll need to go get your title. VIN verification. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Who gives me that?
SPEAKER 05 :
They’ll do it for you at Air Care Colorado, and they know the state form. As they’re asking for that to get an out-of-state car titled here, it’ll have to have a VIN verification in Colorado.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, then what I’ll do is when I get my paperwork later today, it’s supposed to be coming today, I’m going to check the VIN number on that paperwork versus everything else.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Make sure it’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Before I even move the car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. That was worth the phone. It was worth it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. There you go, Mark. Appreciate you. All right. All right, man. Good luck. You bet. Nope, have fun. Yeah, I’m glad he’s not driving that back. I wouldn’t have. We talked about that last week, so. Aaron, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, hey, I got a 2004 Tahoe. I’m trying to get the air conditioning to work, and I think I have a condenser that’s clogged. Okay. Because the front vents will blow fairly cold air, but the compressor cycles. And I don’t get cold air out of the rear vents. And so I evacuated the Freon into the machine. And I only got about 1.3 pounds out. And then when I put the Freon back in, I get about 1.3 pounds into it. And then the high side pressure goes to like 350 pounds.
SPEAKER 03 :
So did you replace the expansion valve on it?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I pulled… So the orifice tube for the front, I pulled it out and looked at it, and it didn’t have any… There was no trash or anything on that. Okay. But I think there… Is there an expansion valve on the rear evaporator?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t think so on that one. I think it’s just the orifice tube is all you have on that car.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because it has the rear… The lines go to the rear for the rear heat and AC.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, but I think it just has the one expansion valve for the whole system on that one. So do the fans run? Are you getting enough air through? Yeah. What I would do is I get the gauge set on there, and I would take an air hose and spray it over the condenser and see if you drop in pressure on your high side. Oh, okay. That’s an easy way to know if you’re not getting enough flow through. Even though the fan’s running and you feel it, I usually just take a little air gun and start spraying it over the front of the condenser and see if that drops down to 250 or below 250. on that thing right right okay and then if that if not then you probably do have something plugged up we don’t have enough flow through through the condenser on it but usually that’s most of the time it’s not necessarily material unless you lost the compressor and it just grenaded in there and you know put all the stuff in the system right usually that’s not it on that it’s usually just flow because you know you probably have a transmission cooler plus the condenser plus the radiator and it’s a 2004 that could be all kinds of between the condenser and the radiator. So you’re just not getting enough flow over that condenser to bring it down.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it’s not high, high. So it’s just high on the high side and not high on the low side too. So you’re like 35 on the low side.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it’s like 35 or 40 on the low side, and the high side hits 350, and then it doesn’t want to take any more freon.
SPEAKER 03 :
And usually what I’ve seen when I get those above 300 on there or 275, and we haven’t even been hot enough for you to go close. If you’ve got over 200 in the conditions we have now, you’re not getting enough flow across that condenser. That’s where I would start. And that’s the easiest trick is just take a compressed air gun and start blowing all over that condenser. and usually you’re going to force enough air there, you’ll start to see it come down on that high-pressure side.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And are you sure there’s no – there must be an expansion valve or orifice tube for the rear evaporator because the orifice tube for the front AC is after the branch line from the high-pressure on the compressor. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Cause I was thinking it was before it. There could be, but I’ve never done one in the rear. I’ve only done the ones in the front. Yeah. I can’t remember ever doing one on the, in the rear, just always on the front of it. So.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Okay. Yeah. I wasn’t sure what was back there. Cause the, the, I think there’s a control module back there that controls the doors.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. For the, for the heat and the, and the AC.
SPEAKER 08 :
For the heat. Yeah. And in the, in the winter, I wasn’t getting hot air from the rear and I could,
SPEAKER 03 :
reset that module in the rear to get them to the doors to cycle but then it faults out again um so i didn’t know if that had something to do with ac it could be if you’re not moving if the door’s not moving so is it the module you know that’s one thing to check is the module or is it the actual mode door that’s not moving correctly right because sometimes they’ll they’ll fail too intermittently yeah for the rear yeah i was gonna check that out but then when i was getting the hype And the other thing is, you know, run that line going all the way back. Just take a look at it. Make sure sometimes these cars will get in a wreck and they’ll pinch those AC lines going back there. And you’ll have an issue because that line is pinched. So I always just usually put up on the lift or get, you know, get on a creeper and roll the whole line. Just watch the whole thing. and then you’ll see it as it goes back into the evaporator back there in the heater core. And they usually run together. You know, you’ve got your heater hoses and your – and so I – and then I look as it goes into the body. A lot of times there’s a leak on those O-rings too on the AC side. So you’ll see, you know, it’ll be all oily, or if it had dye in it, it’ll start to show the dye too. But that’s the other thing is just make sure, you know, I mean, even though they ran them pretty well, sometimes they can get pinched or it was in a little wreck and all of a sudden that line’s pinched, and that’s where you have a restriction too going back to it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Yeah, that’s a good suggestion. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. That’s a start.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me know what you find. Yep, appreciate you. All right. All right, man, you bet, very much. And if you need any help on that in the future, give Josh or the guys up at Legacy at Collin Boulder. You’re not that far away from them. Or even Arvada West over in Arvada, either one, they’re happy to help you out and take care of things for you. So whatever works for you, you’re not that far from either one of them to do that. All right, we’ll take a break. Got a couple lines open, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back to our radio, KLZ 560. 303-477-5600 is our phone number. Alan had a, which we all agreed on, one of the least reliable cars back in the day. And I grew up with these things and worked on them even back in the day as I started out in the field. the converted gas engine Oldsmobiles that were diesels that were in mostly Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs and Buicks, a few Chevy trucks and GMC trucks as well, total pieces of junk. That had to be almost probably one of the largest pieces of junk ever made that not only were junk but affected people buying diesel vehicles. for decades. I blame the fact that America never had as many diesel cars as other parts of the world did because of the albatross that was that GM product that came out at that time. I believe that’s correct. It ruined so many people on buying a diesel that nobody would after that. So, Dennis, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, John. I’m calling about your question of the day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And my 84 Chevy K20 diesel was number two on the list.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that was a 6.2. That was almost as bad as the one I just mentioned, just not quite.
SPEAKER 17 :
It was a little better.
SPEAKER 10 :
So number one on the list has allowed Josh to open a second location in Fort Collins of each of his shops.
SPEAKER 05 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s a 2005 Chevy Tahoe XLT, which, in my opinion, is one of the best. best engineered and designed vehicles ever full of junk Chevy parts.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, you know, and those are, I mean, kind of going back to the last one that we were talking to on the AC and stuff, that particular year, they got a lot better in about 2008.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, no, because they’re still affected by the hydraulic lifter issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but no offense, the hydraulic lifter issue, the cutting off of the cylinders and so on. If guys changed oil at 3,000 to 4,000 miles on those, they really aren’t a problem. The biggest issues those had, nobody changed oil enough and didn’t run synthetic oil.
SPEAKER 10 :
I did. I changed oil at 3,000 and used synthetic oil and didn’t have automatic fuel management and was still affected by that issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting, because most of those weren’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
But in this particular case, I bought it pre-owned. The previous owner had to have the transmission replaced under warranty at 30,000 miles. We’ve replaced the engine. We’ve replaced the radiator. We’ve replaced the rear heater core. Stuff I’ve never had to touch on any of my other vehicles.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’ve got to wonder what the first guy do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I don’t know how you could abuse a heater core.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, no offense, at 30K, yeah, no flushes, and it even goes back to the lifter thing. I mean, how much was the oil changed in that first 30K? And here’s the answer, you don’t know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah, and I didn’t get any of those maintenance.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, and that’s the problem where you just don’t know.
SPEAKER 10 :
But, you know, we’ve got a brand-new transmission. Yeah, true.
SPEAKER 05 :
And really quick, the reason I say this, this is a lesson for a lot of other people listening, by the way. Some of what you may have had with that particular engine down the road was because in a new engine especially, not doing those oil changes early on like you should could have had ill effect upon that down the road. And that’s a true statement that everybody else should be listening to when buying a used car and trying to find maintenance on.
SPEAKER 10 :
It could be, but then Chevy hasn’t learned their lesson because the same issue is affecting the 2014 to 2021 Silverados.
SPEAKER 05 :
In what way?
SPEAKER 10 :
In the hydraulic lifter failures that there’s a class action lawsuit on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well… That’s another one that, not that I’m defending GM because they’ve made some stupid things and they’ve got some 6.2 engine problems right now that they’re struggling with big time, but I will tell you again, Dennis, that issue that you’re talking about on those trucks, I’m going to tell you straight up, it’s lack of maintenance that’s causing that. They may very well have a class action suit and have to pay out on that, but I’m going to tell you straight up, most of that’s from lack of maintenance. Okay. But again, if they get a class action suit and get enough people going and get a judge to agree with them, it won’t matter at the end of the day. They’ll still have to pay out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, right. And it’s not like they haven’t had that issue before. So we’ll see. Have a good day, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you too, Dennis. Appreciate you. Yeah, and for those of you listening, yes, they are having – I don’t know on the 2025s. I haven’t heard anything on the 6-2s on those. But I do know on the previous 2024s, 2023s, 2022s even, yeah, the 6-2s in a lot of GM products. they are having some issues with, and it is a crapshoot. You can have one that will run all day long forever with no problem, and you can have one next to it that doesn’t run 100 miles. And I am not exaggerating. They’re throwing rods is what they’re doing. They’re spinning bearings. And it’s sort of like the Toyota sides of things. Who knows why? And GM’s not even tearing those engines apart to even make those determinations. They’re literally telling the dealer, take that motor out, here’s a new one.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they’re not sending them back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and they’re making them send them back. So the dealers aren’t even, you know, having the ability. I mean, they’re looking, but, you know, they’re not getting into depth as to what’s really causing this because they’re making them take an entire assembly out and put another assembly right back in it, and they are doing that as we speak. So for some of you that have 6-2s, it may be something that you want to pay really close attention to or – And, again, I will tell you straight up, I don’t think that one in particular is an oil change interval issue. I own one and drive it on a pretty routine basis. I do my oil changes at 4,000 miles. But I will tell you that I don’t think that has anything to do with the 6.2 problems that GM is having. Now, I will say, and I’ll still stand by the cylinder deactivation and some of what Dennis was talking about a moment ago. I am one, and I will stand by this, and there’s a lot of people out there that will sell you a deactivation kit and new cam and lifters and blah, blah, blah. I’ll just tell you straight up, you do your oil changes every 3,000 to 4,000 miles on that engine, you won’t have a problem because I’ve seen it. You don’t, you’re going to have a problem. And that’s because the oil passages are so small on that cylinder deactivation system that if you don’t change oil like you should be, In fact, I would go as far as to say using some EPR on occasion. In fact, probably on that engine, every oil change. If you’re not doing that like you should be, yes, you very much, in fact, could have issues. And you’re going to see, and Dennis is right, you’re going to see a class action lawsuit and probably see some success in that, just like you’re going to see a class action on some of the transmission failures that are happening on the GM and the Ford side as well on the 10-speed automatics. You’re going to see some of that as well. I don’t have a crystal ball, but… There’s enough failures with both of those that you’re going to see that. Now, all that being said, GM sales across the board are up more than any other manufacturer out there. So with all of those problems. They’re still topping it in sales, not only last year, but first quarter of 2025. They are doing better than anybody else is in the new car sales end of things, truck, car, and so on. They are knocking it out of the park. Their sales are up, like, I want to say 17%, 18%, something like that. I mean, it’s a huge number where others are going the opposite direction. Dodge trucks, Ram trucks, by the way, they are off by half. Mm-hmm. GM picked up 17%, 18%, and Ram went down 50%. So I’ve already told you guys my feeling on the Ram side of things and why that is, and I know some of you are dealers listening and you work there and so on, but I will just tell you straight up, when the manufacturer does not stand behind the product, knowing there’s a problem. So I’ll go back to GM on the 6.2s. I’ll at least give GM credit for this. They are not hassling the customer. They are not asking for oil change records. They are not going through any of that rigmarole. They are ordering a new engine. They are putting an engine in it, and they are sending you on your way. They’re taking care of the problem. On the same token, you can have an injector issue with a Cummins or a DPF issue with a Cummins or anything else, by the way, with a Cummins and get nothing but runaround from the dealer on getting that vehicle warrantied. And then Ram wonders why their sales are off 50%. Ram, I’m telling you why, and if you guys are at the dealerships listening, I’m telling you why you have a sales issue, because you have a service quality issue, not a quality so much of the truck. All vehicles are going to have problems. I talk about that every single week. It’s how well does a manufacturer stand behind that particular problem, and what are they doing about it? And I’ll tell you right now, as a fleet operator, and I’m not the only one, when you roll a truck in, that you know everything on it is correct, and there’s a known problem on that vehicle, and the dealer will not stand behind it, and that fleet operator, like myself, stops buying your product, that’s why your sales are off half. Not because I quit, but because I and a gazillion other fleet operators and customers did exactly the same thing. Ram, this is on you. This isn’t the dealer even so much, because in a lot of cases, the dealer wants to take care of it, but they’re being told by Ram not to. It’s a load of crap. But then they wonder why their sales are off half. That’s why their sales are off half. Sorry, I’m giving you guys how it is straight up. And some of you guys are driving Ram trucks right now, and you’ve had no problems. Good for you. I’m glad you haven’t. A lot of others, though, have, and Ram will not step up to the pump and actually take care of those customers, which in some cases are buying millions of dollars of product from over the course of not very many years, and yet Ram will do nothing to… to actually pick that up and take care of it. So then guys like me go and buy another product instead. And they wonder why their sales are off and why somebody else’s are up. I just gave you the answer. And sorry for some of you that work at the dealership and are just a reciprocal of that. And I know it’s not your fault, but it’s a bunch of garbage that your parent company is not standing behind those vehicles and yet is whining about how their sales are off. So, anyways, I’ll come back. We’ve got more to talk about. One last segment to go. Myself, Alan Stack, Stack Optical, Josh Goff from Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive up in Boulder, Fort Collins, and Longmont. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today, by the way. We appreciate it very much. Myself, Alan Stack, Stack Optical, with us today and has been since Fix-It Radio. So appreciate, Alan, you hanging around with us today. Thank you, Josh. Been a lot of fun, as always. And then, of course, Josh Goff joining us from Ridgeline Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive. Okay, Josh, before we get too much further along here, what is the used car market doing right now?
SPEAKER 03 :
It seems like, at least on the cheaper ones, it’s starting to come up a little bit. I think it’s either because all of a sudden all the used car lots are selling a lot of cars, or maybe the tariffs are starting to be a factor. Because they know the new car prices are, I’m sure, coming up, even though they say, if you want a car, go buy it now, because tomorrow it might cost more money. But it seems like they are starting to slowly creep back up again.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you and I talk about this quite a bit occasionally. That’s one where I’m still trying to figure out why because nothing’s really taken effect. In fact, right now Ford’s got employee pricing, meaning you can go buy a Ford for less money today than you could a few weeks ago. So how is that pushing up the used car market? That doesn’t make any sense to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think they’re just getting scared. Everybody’s scared that the prices are going up, and so they’re going and buying cars like mad. Either that or it’s a seasonal thing, but we didn’t see this last year at this time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting. Yeah. And again, if you guys out there listening can figure out that end of things and get a crystal ball, I do think that there’s some panic buying going on even from certain dealers. They want to make sure they have inventory down the road because without any inventory, they don’t make any money. So I understand that whole part of things, although I think they’re a little bit early.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but we’re hearing it on the parts supplier side. Oh, that’s true, too. One of the big chain stores was in the other day, I won’t say, and kind of playing the, oh, this is a warning. We’re probably going up in prices on stuff like this. So I think they’re feeding that panic to bump their profit for a bit before anything really happens and what will really happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Could very well be. Alan, on your end of the spectrum, you’re kind of totally the opposite. It’s not auto. It’s health and eye care, eyewear, all that. Any word on that end of things from any of your vendors or suppliers?
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s what I’m concerned about is most of the frames are not made here in the United States. And it’s just right now it’s kind of a wait and see, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Meaning if there’s inventories and stuff around, they may be level for a little while, but once some of that starts to diminish… Then we’ll start seeing the prices go up. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
One of the problems, too, is we do have some manufacturers. Let’s take a metal frame, for instance. Okay. A metal frame made overseas, the weld’s beautiful. But when you see a metal frame that’s made here… It’s not as clean.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 12 :
We just don’t have that technology here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, because we offshored it years ago, unfortunately. That’s right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they’re saying, oh, no, it’s more expensive to buy that frame than it is the one from overseas.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And it’s not made as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and that’s some of the stuff that, by the way, folks, will have to be fixed moving down the road to get things back here. Not just straight everywhere. That’s exactly right. No, that’s across the board. I agree with you on that one, Alan. And it’ll be interesting to see how some of this stuff shakes out. I was reading – I talked about this during the week, but I’ll share this with you guys today. I was reading earlier in the week – There was an interview done on a supplier in the Detroit area where this particular individual, he owns a company, and he supplies some sort of electronic part, didn’t get into the details of what it is and so on. Currently, he manufactures all of those parts overseas, didn’t say exactly where. takes 10 employees in this overseas plant to make this particular part that he’s most likely going to bring back because of the tariffs and so he’s going to bring back to america and he can build the exact same thing here but get this he can roboticize it and go to two employees instead of paying the 10 that are being paid overseas, meaning those 10 are going to lose out, only two are going to gain here, and then a robot gets a job. Now, keep in mind, robots have to have maintenance and so on and all of that, so there is that factor to it as well. But I think some of the misconception is, you know, and I’m all for what we’re doing. I think it needs done. It’s been long overdue. But the misconception is you’re going to take 10 from there and bring 10 here. That’s not going to happen. Even to your point a moment ago about the welding, you’re going to find those same machines, bring them here, that same technology. And instead of, you know, however, it’s even being done overseas, you’re most likely going to even condense that down and run it here with less people than what’s being done someplace else. Now, the plus side is when all this gets done. And we’re doing some of these things here, whether it be in Alan’s world or Josh’s world. You’re going to see that continue on because nobody’s going to make that investment. And as soon as an administration change happens, they’re not going to ship back overseas again. They’re not going to run that risk and do that. If they make that investment and bring everything back over here, you’re going to see a couple of decades pretty easily out of that investment because we in the business world know that you’re not making an investment for the next year. you’re making an investment for a decade plus or you’re not going to do it. Right, guys? That’s right. So when you hear all of this in the news media, which I say it a lot during the week, but I’ll say it here, most of these guys in media, they couldn’t run a business if their life depended on it. They couldn’t make a payroll happen if their life depended on it. But yet they’re going to be an expert on how terrorists work and jobs and everything else, and no offense, they’re clueless. They don’t have the foggiest idea how some of this stuff works. And none of them… Well, occasionally you’ll hear somebody say what I just said a moment ago, but most of them will not get into the this is going to be decades of investment that will affect things down the road long past even this administration. It’s going to be several administrations later where these things are still going to be in effect because these companies won’t make those kinds of investments. Right. Otherwise, I mean, some of these guys are building buildings, you know, keep in mind, folks on the real estate end of things. Most of you that are in that know what I mean. When you build a building, you’re looking at a 30, 40 year return on that. You’re not looking at something in the next five to 10 years. You’re looking at several decades down the road. You’re not going to build it. That’s how that part of it works. And again, if all of that comes back and it works out and we can bring some manufacturing back. Hey, I’m all for that because it is. Keep in mind, too, we had a lot of issues during COVID in the supply chain. Josh notices them. I’m sure even Alan noticed it. We had different things happening where stuff couldn’t get freighted in and we had problems and so on. Well, you bring things back on shore here and you minimize or eliminate the majority of that happening. So I’m all for it. I just don’t think most people understand that. the growing pains that are going to happen during this time to get there. And I hope everybody’s patient enough to hang in there long enough to make it all happen because it’s not going to be fixed overnight.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s going to take time. So with all that being said, back to both Josh and Alan, I will just say this and I’ll keep reiterating it. If… Again, I said this during the 9 o’clock hour, but if you’ve thought about doing anything, buying a new used car, getting your current car fixed, getting a new pair of glasses, getting a couple of pair of glasses, whatever you think of doing, I would tell you that I would get those what I call hardcore purchases done now versus later. Because the cost of doing them later, I can almost guarantee you, is going to be more money than it is today, especially in both of you guys’ worlds. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 05 :
So there may be other things. Honestly, I talked to a good friend of mine, farmer friend of mine, not long ago. You’re going to see prices on food and things like that probably come down. and actually not go up. That’s opposite of what the news media is telling you because we’ll actually have more supply here. They won’t be getting exported because of tariffs and things like that, meaning that in some cases our food prices might actually come down versus go up. So again, there’s going to be some offsets with some of this stuff. But, again, my main point is if you’ve got some big-ticket items that you know you need to get taken care of, car-wise, eyewear-wise, anything along those lines, I would not delay those things. I would get those done sooner versus later. Yep, I agree. Make sense? Yep, it does. some of you that are business owners looking at technology upgrades and things along those lines. You hear the ad for Ease My Pain IT services, Brian Weary. Even if you’re thinking about, man, maybe I better upgrade some of these computers now before some of those things actually go up in price, and on and on we go. Yeah, give a shout-out to Brian. Get in touch with him. Find out exactly what he could do to get you a good upgrade going now versus later because things like printers which i don’t know if we even make a printer in america anymore i mean some of the you know some of the uh computers themselves very very few of them if any are made in this continent uh and i mean you know canada mexico united states that the most of that stuff is made overseas so if you’re looking even as a business owner to do any of those types of upgrades and things along those lines I would not be putting that off waiting to see what happens because if you do, you’re liable to be paying a lot more money down the road than you would be doing it today. Alan, give folks your phone number one more time.
SPEAKER 12 :
303-321-1578, stackoptical.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, Josh, you do the same place.
SPEAKER 03 :
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