In today’s global economy, understanding the intricacies of tariffs and their political motivations is crucial. John Rush welcomes analyst Jake Novak to dissect the latest news and fears surrounding potential tariff implementations. They explore the economic versus political purpose of such measures and challenge the common narratives pushed by mainstream media. Learn about the globalist viewpoints and the real impacts these economic strategies could have on everyday life, all while tackling some common myths about tariffs and inflation.
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All right, we are back. Time for our Monday Mortgage Minute. Kurt Rogers, how are you, sir? How was your Thanksgiving?
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My Thanksgiving was really good.
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Well, I am thankful for guys like you, Curt, and I mean that sincerely. You’ve helped a lot, not only me, but a lot of our listeners through lots of decisions, some of the biggest decisions they’ll make in their life when it comes to their home and the debt end of things and servicing it and so on, and you’re a great resource.
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Well, thank you very much. I think it’s going to get a little challenging for $25,000, depending on where things go. So it’s going to be important to pay attention to it.
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So let’s talk about that for a moment. Folks that are thinking about Christmas, maybe consolidating debts, but maybe they’re also thinking that, hey, if I do something different once the housing market changes a little bit, which I think there’ll be some changes coming, to your point a moment ago in 2025, what does all that look like? I don’t have a crystal ball. I don’t know exactly. But for folks that are thinking about all of that, Kurt, what are some things they need to be considering in all of that?
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Well, eventually the rates are going to come down. The feds are going to lower the rates in December. But that’s not going to affect mortgages. We’ve talked about that in the past. But mortgage rates are going to come down. The question is, there’s so many people with so much debt that they want to refinance and pay off that debt so they can save money and lower their total monthly outflow. But there’s decisions, if they make them now, that can prevent that from happening. And one of those is, and I understand it’s Christmas time, and I understand you want to buy things. But if you start going out and opening up too many new accounts, it actually will bring your credit score down. If you’re not paying attention to your maximum that you owe on a credit card versus what you actually owe and keep that space at about 50%, it’s also going to go down. Even though you’re paying them on time, you’re going to lose credit score. And when you do that, it’s going to become costly come the first part or the middle part of next year.
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Also, don’t miss any payments, right?
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Oh, yeah, don’t. If all you can do is make a minimum payment on a credit card, but make your mortgage payment, make your car payment, you have to do that.
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You’re better off doing that, even though, I know, the interest is loading up, and yeah, you’ll never get that card paid off, but you’re still better off making minimums than not at all.
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If that’s what you’ve got to do to get by, that’s fine. Make the minimum. Because what you can do to see where you’re at is do a free credit poll. And on that, you’ll see that it shows how much you can max on a credit card and what you owe. Try to keep that at 50%. If that means making a minimum, just make the minimum.
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Does it hurt if it’s below the 50%?
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Your credit score is going to save you more than that.
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Kurt, does it hurt if that balance is below the 50%?
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Oh, it actually helps it even more. If you’re at 40, it’s going to be great.
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Okay, so if you can get it at 50 or below, keep it at 50 or below, you’re better off.
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Yeah, and I think I’ve seen this for many, many, many years. People go out and just open up a whole bunch of credit cards, and their credit score goes down 30, 40 points.
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How long does it take for that to come back once they do that, or does it?
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Six months.
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Okay, so if people are out there thinking of doing a refinance or thinking of doing a different home or whatever the case may be, you need to be paying attention to all of this.
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Yeah, because even though you’re making the payments on time, because most of us think if I make my payments, my score is going to be great. That’s not necessarily how it works.
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Gotcha. All right. Well, tomorrow, Haystack Help Radio, you take over the KLZ Airwaves from noon to 1. What’s tomorrow?
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I have one of my realtors that’s coming on, one that is part of the team, where we’re going to show you about the new NAR regulation that’s out and how it can become beneficial.
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Awesome. Kurt, as always, I appreciate it. Like I said a moment ago, very thankful for you, sir.
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Thanks, John. Nice to have you back.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jake Novak joining us now. Jake, how are you?
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I’m well. I’m well. It was a good Thanksgiving weekend. I still have leftovers that are pretty tasty and I didn’t destroy the food.
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Good to hear. Good to hear. OK, so and I’ve talked about this a little bit, even since some of the Trump win and different things that get thrown around. And, you know, the globalists, Jake, hate tariffs. And we’ve seen Trump throw some things around, which, by the way, I’m not sure that. He isn’t just doing some saber rattling with some of the tariffs and getting some of these countries to actually wake up and pay attention. In other words, is he going to really enforce some of the tariffs that he’s talking about? At the end of the day, as long as we get what we need out of it as a country, I really don’t care.
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That’s right. And you hit the nail on the head. The threat of the tariffs is likely to be just as effective. And that’s really important. And it just goes to show how disingenuous and not so smart The mainstream news media is because they’ve been covering this for days now about how these tariffs are going to go into place and how this is going to change your life. Most of them are not actually ever going to be imposed. So they’re really misleading the public, frightening them as usual.
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Jake, some of them that may, may I say, because, you know, what will actually end up being enforced, we don’t know. But really, at the end of the day, this is the reality of it. The average person won’t know even if they do.
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That’s right. And we had tariffs during the first Trump administration. We didn’t have inflation. People couldn’t, you know, didn’t have trouble going to the grocery store and paying the bill like they are now. So honestly, it’s why past experience isn’t teaching these people any lessons. And by these people, I mean the regime news media. I don’t know.
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Well, and for example, I was reading today, I’m a car guy, as you know. So I was reading today that, you know, some of these tariffs may raise the price on cheap cars. No, probably not, Jake. What will happen is if it gets bad enough, these manufacturers will realize that, well, instead of us making this model in Mexico, we’ll bring it back to the U.S. and we’ll make it here. Those are some of the immediate changes that will happen on the manufacturing front, which, by the way, we as a country have the ability to do. These manufacturers have the ability to do. They moved them there just because it was cheaper.
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Right. And I also think that President Trump is, this isn’t even a thought, it’s obvious, he is using the tariff, he’s using the economic tool of the tariff to achieve a political end. You know, the globalists, let’s even give them a little bit of credit. Let’s say the purest capitalists out there in the world don’t like tariffs because when they’re an economic tool used to serve an economic purpose, they often work to help monopolies and crony capitalists and don’t allow for more wealth to be created. But that’s not what the real goal of any of the Trump tariffs, both from his first term and what he’s talking about now, that was never that goal. The goal was, hey, stop this illegal immigration. Stop this flooding our country with fentanyl. And I’m going to use an economic tool because our other option is to send American young men and women into war. Are you telling me you would rather have that than an economic tool or even the threat of an economic tool? Let’s get real here.
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No, yeah, let’s use the tools we have at our disposal. And I think, Jake, for me, when it comes to tariffs, number one, And back to your comment a moment ago, news media hates it, globalists hate it, and so on. They want to paint the worst picture they possibly can because of their view on how life should work in the first place. And the problem with the old way of doing tariffs even back in the day versus today is countries didn’t manipulate their money properly. So a pure capitalist, you know, years ago, sure. In fact, I was one of those that would say, you know, tariffs aren’t good when it’s all said and done. Well, that was before we had China, which they’re very bad at today. You know, they’re huge at manipulating their own money. So the reality is you’ve got to use something in your toolbox to eliminate that.
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Right, and China isn’t really that interested in boosting its economy, believe it or not. Now, yeah, sure, they would rather have a country that is doing well economically. Yeah, they would rather have a country that’s doing well economically. But China is a country that believes it’s the victim of every other nation in the world for over 100 years, and they are using economic tools to attack us politically and in even worse ways. This isn’t about, like, oh, one capitalist economy versus another. This is about… an economy in China, a country in China, a regime, I should say, in China that’s been using economic weapons against us, not to improve their economic situation, but to harm us and others. That’s the goal.
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And to your point, they also use it to harm their own, because as you know as well as I, they use everything from social scorers and so on. If you think for one second you live in China and you’re free, think again, because you’re not.
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And we were told for years, if we allow China into the marketplace and give them the most favored nation status in trade, they will eventually want to copy the freedoms of the West and the United States. And you know what? The sickening reality is the opposite has happened. That’s right. The political class in this country has looked at China and said, ooh, I like the way they spy on their own people. I like the way they repress their own dissent. Let’s do that, too. And that’s what’s happened in this country. Hopefully, Donald Trump will be able to reverse that.
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And I saw last week, you know, there’s a big uproar over the comments about, you know, the border, you know, southern and northern borders and what he’s going to do to oil and this, that and the other. And even I went online and straightened a few people out on the reality of, OK, there’s a lot of naysayers out there talking about if these things actually were implemented. And we actually did put a tariff on the oil coming in from Mexico yesterday. and Canada, the reality is it’s such a small number that it really wouldn’t have a huge effect upon gas prices at the pump. But all you read last week, Jake, is expect $5 a gallon gasoline if this stuff takes place.
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And this is coming from the same people who say, oh, the fact that we’ve green-lighted Ukraine to fire missiles deep into Russia, that’s just the threat. That’s not going to start any problems. Meanwhile, they say the threat of a tariff is worth doomsaying everything. It’s just incredible. The number one bias in news, even bigger than their liberal bias and their geographic bias, is the bias in favor of frightening, divisive, angry-type news. They don’t know how to cover good news, and they think that their job in news is to discover problems and to exacerbate them, not to offer solutions. And that’s not true. You can offer a solution, interview a guest who has a solution. You can do that, too, by the way. I give them permission.
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There you go. Well, and really quick, back to the oil thing. If there’s one thing, too, that what I saw last week shows, and this is what the left doesn’t even understand it’s doing, when they show that we’ve got some of these, I guess you could call it inadequacies as a country, in other words, to the oil, for example. Yes, we import some oil from Canada because we’ve got some refineries that need the heavy crude. That’s the way those refineries were designed in the first place. It’s also why we import oil from overseas. same reason if we’d on the same token jake upgrade our refineries to where we would use our own oil we produce here the nice sweet light crude that this country produces the reality is we wouldn’t even need that other oil in the first place so to me this just shows wait a minute time out guys You’re proving what a lot of us on this side have said for years and years and years. Release, you know, get rid of some of the regulation that keeps these petroleum companies from doing the things they need to do to make some changes. So at the end of the day, we are dependent upon ourselves and not other countries.
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Right, and a lot of that was the result of lobbying and Hunter Biden-type payoffs. That’s right. We didn’t deliberately just, we didn’t do this to cut our nose off to spite our face. We did this because people got paid off over the years, either in votes or in money. This was not an accident, and now we need to reverse it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and now, thank you. We need to get in and change some things. And my feeling is, Jake, and I’m not a big one for helping certain industries out, but in this particular case, yes, I would incentivize petroleum companies to do some of the upgrades that I just mentioned a moment ago. Let’s drill more. Let’s become self-sufficient. Yeah, if we still want to bring some of that oil in to use for other types of products, fine, so be it. But at the end of the day, no offense, Canada, no offense, Mexico, we don’t want nor need your oil. And that includes Saudi Arabia.
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Well, I don’t think it’s favoritism to remove regulations that have unfairly demonized and hurt an industry. In other words, if you’re reversing decades of that, then you’re not giving them. Now, I don’t think we should get financial subsidies. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Just make it easier for them to do some of the upgrades we need as a country.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. You’ve had administrations that have deliberately punished this industry for political reasons and also for their own personal financial gain. You’re just removing that, and that is not crony capitalism. That is removing basically a managed economy that picked winners and losers.
SPEAKER 04 :
Just like we’ve done in the power end of things as well. We’ve done the exact same thing on that end of things. We’ve picked winners and losers, wind, solar. We’ve punished coal plants. We’ve punished nuclear plants. We need to reverse that as well, Jake.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, look at what’s going on with nuclear. I mean, because of AI and the massive amount of power that AI technology needs and Bitcoin mining, you’ve had major tech companies contracting with energy companies to build micro nuclear power plants and reactors just for themselves. Yep. Now, how about the rest of us get in on that deal? Absolutely. It’s just so obvious that we can’t go on this way.
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Absolutely. Hey, I know you’re more on the inside track in Washington than what we are out here in Colorado. What’s the feeling around Washington when you’ve got guys coming in, Kash Patel, Doge, et cetera, where they’re talking about really revamping a lot of the departments and a lot of the three-letter agencies in Washington? I talked about this in the first hour. That’s got to be scary for a lot of those insiders.
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Oh, I’m sure it is. I mean, it is a very cushy world for them, and it’s scarier for them because these people have the thinnest skin in the world. These are the same people who were willing to burn down the country over the 2016 election result. They’re willing to try to burn down the whole world now with what they’re trying to exacerbate in Ukraine and Russia over the 2024 election. They have an absolute… I mean, they make King George III… look like an upstanding, thick-skinned individual. They act as if… If you haven’t spent time in D.C. talking to some of these bureaucrats that no one needs, by the way, and hear their self-importance in their voice, which is something I’ve experienced for 30 years, maybe longer, really almost 40 years I’ve been interacting with people like this, the self-importance and the thin skin of these people is beyond measure… But hopefully they’ll be just put back into such a corner that maybe they’ll either wake up or they’ll just become so irrelevant it won’t matter. But these people are very self-important, very thin-skinned. They are about to say that the end of the world is coming because they personally might have to change their jobs like most Americans do several times in their lives.
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Question I didn’t have an answer to in the first hour that I thought maybe you’d be able to help us with. What kind of retaliation factor will there be among some of these agencies and folks that work there because of the reasons you just said?
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Well, I think you’ll see work actions. They may, you know, on the biggest scale, I think, again, they’ll try to do what they did in 2020, which is look the other way at violent protests. But that’s where the popular vote results. has really been very helpful to us. It’s taken so much air out of the tire, which, as I told you many times, was my number one concern was post-election violence. And the air of that, and I’m not saying that’s gone from the table. There’s definitely still a chance for that. But the air out of that tire is really obvious. It’s really come down from there. So I think now it’s going to be more bureaucratic obstruction. They’ll try that for a while. But you know what? I’m feeling a little anti-Trump fatigue, aren’t you? I think that they really blew their efforts in the last nine years. We’re talking about nine years now, which is a long time. And I think that they’ve gotten tired of it, and there’ll be a critical mass of them willing to move on. There’ll still be some who will be willing to burn it all down, but I think a lot of them don’t have the energy for this anymore. I’m feeling optimistic about this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the smart ones are going to want to keep some of their paycheck rolling in, so they’re going to do whatever they possibly can to make that happen, as you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. And there’s going to be work for them. I mean, there’s still going to be work for them to do. It’s just that the established – I mean, listen, you can walk into any building. I’m so glad I’m hearing other people say this because I’ve been saying this for 30 years. I walked into major buildings in the D.C. bureaucracy for years, and there’s nobody ever in them. It’s going to be one of those things where if they shut down the government, how will we notice? Does anyone really know? We don’t even notice. So some of them are going to be fine with working and keeping those benefits. People are not that stupid. Some people will burn their house down, but not everyone will do that.
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Gotcha. Jake, as always, I appreciate it. How do folks follow you?
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At jakejakeny is my Twitter X handle, and jakenovac.substack.com. Those two sites are all you need.
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Always a joy having you. Appreciate you, sir, very much. Thank you. You bet. Have a great night. That’s Jake Novak. Golden Eagle Financial’s up next. Make sure that you’ve got your financial future dialed in, especially as we close out one year and head into the next. Call Al today. Al Smith, Golden Eagle Financial. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Charles, you are next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi. First time listening to your show. Thank you. Enjoying it. So we’re both coming in blind. I have a debate here. Go ahead. It’s about the parenting issue you talked about earlier.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, first hour. Yes, yes, yes.
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Bear the rod, spoil the child. I agree with the Bible verse. I disagree with what Christians interpret that as. So let’s talk about what is the rod and the staff. So the shepherd has two things. He has a rod and a staff. The staff is what he uses to guide, direct, steer the sheep back onto the trail, keep them on a straight and narrow, keep them from getting hurt. The rod is what he uses against the lion, the predator, those who seek to destroy the sheep. That’s what David killed the lion with. He killed it with the rod, not the staff. He didn’t use the rod on the sheep because that would kill them. David said in the 23rd Psalm, talking about God, he said, thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Well, he’s comforted by the rod of God because he knows that God will destroy his enemies. He’s comforted by the staff of God because he knows that God will guide and direct him and give him guidance. So where we have misinterpreted that is we use the rod and we think that means to beat the children. But what we should be doing as parents is using that rod on the predators of society, and since we have not used that rod on the predators of society, they have come in and infiltrated all aspects of our society.
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And by the way, I can’t disagree with what you’re saying, and I agree with your premise, although I would ask you a question. Where then do you discipline, because even God disciplines us as His children, where then do you, you know, how do you interpret the discipline side of that?
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discipline and punishment are two different things. The rod is for punishment, to beat and to hit. And I hear Christians, and I used to believe this too, right? I used to think this as well. I heard it my whole life. And so what we do is we guide with the staff. That’s what discipline comes from. Discipline comes from the staff. It’s what we use. Tap the lamb on the head and say, no, no, come back over here on the trail. Let’s get over here. Society has gone upside down So because we have, as men, we have put down the rod, and we’ve not used it, so therefore the predators have taken over. And now what we do is it’s easier just to beat our children and beat them into line than to expect adults to act in correction.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I don’t know that I agree with you 100% on that. I still think there’s time where corporate discipline is needed. I think I can attest to that even in my own life as a child. There’s just times where my mom and dad could have talked to me until I’m blue in the face, but there’s something about that backside having a little punishment that made the difference in the world, Charles.
SPEAKER 09 :
I understand that, and I’m not disagreeing with that. But what I am saying is that at first, that people use to justify whipping their kids.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no. Time out, time out. And I said this in the first hour. I am never going to advocate anybody abuse and or take things too far. And I’m also one Charles that believes in, and I did this as a parent. Yeah, those conversations that you have initially to try to get things back on track are a must. But if that point in time the child’s not responding, and I see far too often in today’s society, these kids are running amok and literally they’re running the parents versus the parents running them. That’s what I was talking about in hour one. That has to change.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the reason that is happening is because we have adults that have bared their rod and these people… have come in and subverted our children and made them spoiled.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can’t argue that. No, I won’t argue that one, Charles. You’re 100% correct there. That one, and I see that. I mean, I watch the parenting of these individuals. They may not know you’re paying attention and watching. But, you know, we are. Guys like us are definitely watching. And, no, I agree with what you’re saying there, absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. The Lions have taken over social media, the school system, Hollywood. The church. The media. the church. So therefore, that’s who is spoiling our children. They’re making them not good. So we as men need to gather up our rods.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and really quick, Charles, how often are you out in public to where it’s not even dad doing the correction? Maybe that’s the right word for me to say. It’s mom doing the correcting instead of dad.
SPEAKER 09 :
All the time, because you know why? It’s just easier, and we have become weak.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s just easier to allow our children to be spoiled.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Now, I am hoping, or I guess let me say it this way, Charles. I’m hopeful with what just happened in this last election that there are some men finally raising up saying, you know what? I want my role back. I want to do what I know God has given me the duty to do. And I’m hoping in this last election, which I think showed some of that, that maybe we’ll see some of that change.
SPEAKER 09 :
I hope so, too. And I’m going to say one more thing as far as like we as adults should lead as a father should lead by example. So it’s kind of hypocritical for like when the mom yells at the kid, stop screaming, be quiet. Or when you slap the kid on the butt, don’t hit. So what we’re doing is we’re teaching the children Mike makes right. So what we’re doing is we’re using that rod on our children and teaching our children that the rod is to be used to get our way. rather than trying to use other things, which is the staff.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. And again, you’re not going to find me disagreeing with anything you’re saying along those lines. Explaining it that way makes a world of difference. And yes, Charles, it is our duty as men to guide, protect, teach, govern, handle our families in a correct way. And unfortunately, far too many men, because, to your point earlier, and I’ve said this many, many times, we’ve allowed… the world, if you would, to infiltrate every organization we have, including the church, and it’s made wussies out of men.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. We men have put down our rods, and the lions have come in, and they have spoiled our children. So because we prepared the rod, now our children are spoiled.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can’t argue that. No, I agree with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the point is, take up the rod, not against the children, against the lions, against the evildoers who come to spoil our children.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Charles, I appreciate that. Have a great rest of your day. I appreciate you very much. And, yeah, I can’t argue anything along those lines. And my point in the first hour, those of you that might have missed the 3 o’clock hour, is just one of the observations I had on this last trip vacation was just how many out-of-control kids there are. And Charles is right. In a lot of cases, I did see a few exceptions where you can see dads pretty well involved in things. And, by the way, those are the ones where the kids were pretty well-behaved. And this isn’t putting moms down. But when mom is left to do everything in the family, that’s not fair to mom either. And I saw many examples of that as well. And I will just say that, you know, for all of you listening, parenting is not easy. Yeah, there’s lots of books that have been written on it, lots of different viewpoints on it. And I also will tell you this, and I know this full well, not every kid’s the same. And I had some kids, you rarely had to do anything capital punishment-wise. You just could look at them, and that was enough to get them back on track. Every child was a little bit different, just like, to Charles’ point a moment ago, not all the sheep in the herd are the same. Some of them are a little more strong willed than others. So the reality is every one of those kids has to be directed according to themselves. And it’s not a one size fits all. But, yes, I will agree with Charles wholeheartedly. I’ve been saying this now for several weeks, even even the weeks leading up into the election. There’s been a wake up of men. I hope and pray that especially our party and the church will recognize some of that wake-up in what’s happened and understand that we have an opportunity now to do some things in men’s lives that we haven’t been doing up to this point. And I really hope that some of that catches hold and that— we do see some changes going down the road along the lines of what Charles was just talking about a moment ago because that’s ultimately what needs to happen. I’ve talked about that over and over again, not just here but on the podcast that we did, and we caught on Wednesdays the National Crawford Roundtable, talked about it there as well. So, Charles, appreciate the phone call. Let me do this. We’ll take a quick break. We’ll come back. I’ve got a couple other things I want to get finished up here throughout this hour, so don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning is next. Don’t forget, if your furnace is acting up, give them a call. They’ve got a special right now, a tune-up special. Give them a call. KLZ 560 is where you find them.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Conrad, what’s going on, sir? Hey, welcome back home. Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just sitting down here getting ready to watch the Broncos. Nice. So, you know, I texted you while you were out there on vacation. So was that really, I mean, did you go see the Arizona and the Missouri?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I did not. I’ve been many, many times in the past, so I didn’t do it this trip. I’ve probably been there, Conrad. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve taken friends, family, and so on. Probably been there, I don’t know, eight to ten times, something like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s probably – I’ve never been there. My dad got to see it.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s very cool.
SPEAKER 08 :
Back in 1971. But it’s got to be almost like a religious experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s one of the best experiences. I mean, it’s one of those things that I think every American should go do. It gives you an appreciation for what happened, you know, at Pearl Harbor. And it’s just – it’s hard to explain without actually going through it. But it is a – it’s just an eye-opening reality check, I guess, is probably the way to say it, Conrad. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
You kind of have the Alpha and the Omega right there because the Alpha was when Pearl Harbor was attacked and Arizona was so horribly destroyed. And then the Omega, when the Missouri was a ship where they signed the peace treaty.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. Yeah, and that came along later. That wasn’t always at the memorial, so some folks may have been there even before the Missouri was there. So that’d be something that if somebody went even before the Missouri, and there’s even a submarine you can go and visit as well. It’s an experience worth going to, Conrad. If people haven’t been, it’s well worth it. And every time I’ve been, it’s just a new experience every single time, so you’re never disappointed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it’s definitely on my bucket list. Like I said, though, I guess my son Keith’s wife’s dad was in the Navy, and he said that they’re – that they’re part bow to bow, not the enterprises, Arizona and Missouri are part bow to bow with each other. So I think that’s really cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s very cool. Again, it’s an experience where folks haven’t been, and I don’t know if this is good, bad, or otherwise, Conrad. It used to be it was super expensive and only the wealthy could afford to go to Hawaii and see Pearl Harbor. With airfare and all of the different things that are going on and Airbnbs and so on and so forth, the reality is that’s not so true anymore. You can pretty much go there on a budget. Anybody out there, literally, you could save up enough and make it and go and make a trip out of it. It’s become very easy to get there and see it. Now, the downside, Conrad, is because of what I just said, a lot more people go than they used to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Is there like a waiting thing to get?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you make an appointment now, you get your tickets in a window at a time frame where you go and do the tour and so on. I mean, you can always take a gamble and just show up, but if you do, you’re typically going to be waiting. It’s best to go ahead and get them online and get that window set.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’ve been asking my wife about it. She always likes to go on vacation. I’m not a big vacation guy, but something like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
For you especially, Conrad, it’s well worth going. I hate to say this, but they’ve got the kind of weather where is there a bad day to go? It’s hotter in the summer than it is this time of the year, but it’s all still great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, they’re pretty moderate right there. I mean, I think they get a lot of rain that comes through there.
SPEAKER 04 :
They can get some rain in the latter part of December, January. I’ve even been there in February when it’s rained. But their rain is not like our rain, so you can still get out and do things even in the rain.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s warm, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s not our rain. It’s raining out, and you think, oh, you’re going to freeze to death. No, you get wet, but no, you don’t get any colder.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. Well, I’m glad you had a good time.
SPEAKER 04 :
You need to go, Conrad. I mean, it is well worth going. You need to go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Definitely want to, John, and I’m so glad you’re back. And I’m going to call you Saturday about the car thing, you know, that I texted you about.
SPEAKER 04 :
Really quick, it’ll be interesting to see Conrad in 2026, because Trump’s already planning some big things for the anniversary of our country, you know, the 250th anniversary of our country. So it’ll be interesting to see if, like, Pearl Harbor and things like that, if they do some things different that whole year, you know, in 2026.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that’d be very cool to do that. Because we’re not that far away from that.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if you guys started, you know, those of you listening, if you planned a trip, I’m guessing there’ll be some special things that happen in 2026.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know how exuberant and all of us are so overwhelmed with joy with with President Trump’s victory and keeping the House and getting the Senate back. A lot of good things. Absolutely. His picks he’s picking for his cabinet are just unbelievable.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so far, I mean, there’s a few disappointments maybe. But all in all, Conrad, yeah, I’m very happy. I’m not upset at all. Cool.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Betty. I’ll call you Saturday.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, man. I’ll talk to you then. Appreciate you, Conrad. Have a great week. Enjoy the game tonight. Okay. Some of what—this is typical of the liberals, by the way. There’s an article in Colorado Sun I read today, this morning. Colorado receives millions of dollars in federal arts funding every year. Will that change under Trump? I could only hope so. That’s my answer, by the way. I could go through and read the article. But, you know, the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities have been targeted by conservatives for decades, but Trump was the first president to formally propose eliminating the agencies. Yeah, they should be. They should be. In today’s world, if you want to see those things continue on, Go start your own foundation. Go find some rich leftist billionaires that want to help fund it, which there’s plenty of. Figure out ways to make these things work outside of my tax dollars. I don’t have a problem with these. If you want to go do what I just said, knock your socks off. I have no problem with these sorts of things. I’m not an artsy kind of a guy, as you all know. I don’t even watch musicals. Movies and so on. I don’t go to plays. That’s just not me. I’m not into that stuff. It is for a lot of people. That’s great. But it’s not for me. And by the way, just because it’s not for me isn’t the reason why I don’t want it funded publicly with my tax dollars. I’d rather go to a car show or a NASCAR race. Are they funded with tax dollars? The answer is no. So those of you that are really into the arts and the funding of and all of that, okay, that’s your thing. Why isn’t my thing federally funded? Why aren’t the things that I enjoy federally funded? And you would come back and say something like, well, you know, that’s not the definition of art. Well, to some of us it is. I go to a lot of car shows, and I look at some of these cars that are built, custom built, hand built, by the way, and are they a work of art? They absolutely are. Absolutely. Absolutely. It’s art to me, but it isn’t to you. But I’ll also say this. Some of what you’re getting millions of dollars of in federal funds isn’t art to me either. It’s garbage. I’ll just say it straight up. Some of what you guys hang on a wall, in my opinion, a kindergartner could do. It’s total garbage. So I’m not against the arts. I’m against the federal funding of the arts. And by the way, I don’t care whether that’s ballet, whether it’s music, whether it’s this, whether it’s that. We live in a society today where if you feel strongly enough about something that should continue on like this, then fine, get it funded. Find a way to fund it. There’s plenty of money floating around the world. And my feeling is, just like NPR radio, by the way, why should my tax dollars go to fund NPR? It shouldn’t. NPR should stand on its own. If it can’t go out and do the things that Crawford Broadcasting does, selling ads and doing the things that’s necessary to make a radio station operate, if NPR can’t do that, then it shouldn’t exist. no different than these sorts of things that are in this particular article are talking about. And by the way, I don’t care if millions come into Colorado off of it, because guess what? It’ll continue to come in. These types of organizations will go find that money somewhere else. It’ll just come out of a different pocket than my tax dollars. And frankly, that’s how it should work, if you ask me. It shouldn’t be coming out of our tax dollars. This is stuff that got started who knows when. It’s like a church organization. At some point in time, it got started, and it’ll never end. So these things have been going on even before Reagan, because I’m reading in the article that attempts to eliminate the NEA, National Endowment of Arts, began in the 80s under Reagan. So that tells you how long these things have been going on, far too. And I will dovetail into this because I think it’s true, and I’ve got time to do this. Where did the National Endowment of Arts really come from? The Marxists. Some of you are going to look at me like, what are you talking about, John? Yeah, the Marxists. Part of the Marxist movement, by the way, is to make abstract art meaningful. Yes, I just said that. Go read it if you don’t believe me. It’s their way of basically taking garbage and solidifying it. That’s part of the Marxist movement. So that’s where this stuff has come from. And some of you are going to think that I’m loony. I’m not. Go look it up. I’m not loony. This whole modern art and contemporary art and abstract art and all this what I call garbage is exactly where that came from. So, again, if it wants to continue on, I am all for it. More power to it. Just don’t do it on my dime. And I hope that there’s not just these sorts of items that get eliminated, but many, many others as well. This particular organization, three-letter agency, I should say, has been around since the 60s. And, yes, there’s been a lot of money that has funneled into Colorado and probably a lot of other states based upon this, and the reality is it needs to end. I would also guess that, economically speaking, most of this money finds its way into individuals’ pockets, right? Some of those individuals probably spending very little back into the Colorado economy. It’d be interesting to really know, out of the millions that come into Colorado through that particular fund, how much actually make it into the Colorado economy. 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SPEAKER 05 :
Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason. All right, Jeff, got 30 seconds.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go for it, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, how you doing, buddy? Good, sir. Good. Just a quick one, a way to cut some money out of federal government, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory right here in Golden, buddy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ll tell you what, there’s a lot of waste there. I got some kids that are staying with me, and they… they literally do nothing. They don’t even go into their – and that’s a huge – Huge waste. There’s about 70 of them across the country.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. These huge laboratories. Can’t argue that one. Can’t argue that one, Jeff. Thank you, by the way, for the reminder. I’ll add more. I’ll keep adding these to the list, Jeff. Appreciate you, man. Yep, buddy. All right, have a great night. All right, we’ll be back tomorrow, myself and Andy. We’ve got all of that plus a lot more to go over tomorrow with you all, so have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.