In this episode of Rush to Reason, host Andy Pate dives deep into the political strategies that could shape the future of the Democratic party. Joined by Jersey Joe, they pose critical questions about policy reform and the Democrats’ need to move away from identity politics to reclaim the trust of the American people. The conversation also covers the potential impact of a strong economic performance under Republican leadership and what this means for future elections.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And welcome to our number three here on Rush to Reason. I’m Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And on the line right now, we got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? doing my goombas they all gone they left they left you know uh just so you know those two young people they just worked a very long day so you and i are letting them out at five because we are nice old people well hopefully they’re listening hey by the way uh being that it’s the last show of the year i’m going to try to keep it as light as possible i got some really heavy stuff but i got i’m going to save that to the end and maybe with any luck we won’t get to it
SPEAKER 10 :
But I want to try to keep it very, very light for as long as we can.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Before we get into your stuff, I don’t know if you heard the question I posed at the end of the hour. No, I didn’t. Okay. What do the Democrats do to remake themselves going forward? What are their biggest issues where people hate them, and what do they got to do to turn it around?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they need to run as quickly and as hard and as far away from everything the squad is supporting. I mean, if I had to put it in general terms, But they need to get serious about border security. The stories we’ve had this year about illegal aliens murdering nurses, setting people on fire, they’re just horrific. And even though they might be only a couple of dozen, these are the stories that hit home with people and they remember them. So they need to get serious and they need to get on the side of getting serious about border security. and deporting criminal illegal aliens in this country. That’s number one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, that’s the low hanging fruit. You know, later on, when we get into the wider range of illegal aliens, maybe it gets more difficult then. But the ones that have committed crimes, my goodness, I think you’re going to get 75% support on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And you know, the ones in Aurora, the trend, they do. Trendy Aragua. Right those. And, and cutting back on spending, you know, some of the spending We’ve all seen the list, you know, the waste of the DEI spending and the study about why do monkeys throw poop and whatnot. You know, they need to come out and say, yes, we are behind reducing the size and scope of government. They need to do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you think Elon and Vivek will succeed? in for the first time, almost in my lifetime, in making it unfashionable to waste money in government? Because let’s face it, until now, yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody talks about government wasting money. Nobody does anything because everybody wants their vote to be bought. All right. Do you think for the first time we may see that turn a corner?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think we might because they have, number one, they’re a huge megaphone in terms of X and a huge microscope. They have the ability through X to to put a magnifying glass on all this stuff. And if you’re a politician and you don’t want people to be angry at you, so I think even Democrats, if they want to put a magnifying glass on some of this stuff, and you’re a Democrat, even though you may want to spend the money, for your own political survival, you’re going to have to come out against it. So I think, yes, I think. Now, will it be 100%? No. Will it be 80%? No. Will it be 40%? Maybe. Maybe. 40% would be a huge home run.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. You know, one thing that they were both saying, Luke and Ashley, was that Democrats have to start speaking to the people again. And what they were talking about was more than changing their actual policies, it’s how they talk. Bernie sells. Why? Because he talks like Trump. Okay. Bernie and Trump are populists. They talk right to the people. They don’t speak in political ease. Right? Right. Now, and I think that there’s really something to be said for that, because one reason Trump just relates to a lot of people.
SPEAKER 10 :
He doesn’t. So does Bernie. Now, they obviously they relate to different segments of the population, but they speak to them and they resonate with those people. Now, you know, you know, what Bernie says is mostly B.S. and a lot of what Trump says, by the way, is B.S. E. You know, he over promises, you know, he promises things he can’t possibly deliver.
SPEAKER 08 :
Everything’s the greatest of all time or the worst of all time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, right. But again, but he speaks to the people directly and a large percentage of the people that he speaks to believe most of what he says. And the same thing with Bernie. I mean, most of what he says is complete BS. And but, you know, the people who listen to him, that resonates with him and they believe him. I feel sorry that they I feel sorry for them that they believe him. But to your point, he speaks to people, not at people, and he resonates with them.
SPEAKER 08 :
What about this? What about this, Joe? I think if Democrats want one way that they can resonate when they first of all, I totally agree. They got to just talk like normal people again, which they haven’t been. But also, I think they need to dump the identity politics. I think people are sick and tired of politicians coming along, carving up society and pitting it against each other. I think because what we’re going to see now going forward, which we have not seen in many, many a decade, is that almost every demographic now has a foothold for the right within it. OK, you now have within the only demographic, major demographic that does not have that is black women. OK, but black men, Hispanic women, Hispanic men, young people, even suburbanites. OK, all of them have a pretty fair number of Trump supporters in them. And so what this means is this. When these when these groups get together, because all groups, you know, birds of a feather, we generally fly together. That’s what we do. Go to the same places, hang out, go to school together, whatever. All of these groups now for the first time in a long time. have conservatives among them, right in there embedded among them, which means it’s harder to simply demonize the right and have everybody around you be a bunch of clapping seals.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because in doing that, they would have to demonize friends, relatives, and neighbors. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re demonizing Uncle Ed or whoever, right? You’re demonizing somebody you actually know. And by the way, that person is a pretty cool guy.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right. So you have to start thinking… Uncle Ed’s really not a bad guy, so if he believes this, maybe what I’ve been told isn’t 100%, and maybe Uncle Ed’s got a point of view that I need to understand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so maybe what they need to do instead is… Because, look, they can’t just become Republicans. They can’t give up. And Luke made this point very well. They’re not going to give up socialism. It is who they are. Okay? They can’t stop being them. But… What if they go strictly into class warfare and drop the race on race? You know, the LGBT is everything kind of stuff. You know, all the identity politics drop that or at least, you know, lower it down and go strictly into class warfare.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. And there and these liberal websites that I visit almost every day, they are hitting that heart hot. And I mean, it’s you know, the whole thing now is we need to hate the wealthy. You know, I think Thomas Sowell said there was a time when success in this country was something to be emulated, you know, to be admired and emulated. And today, success is something to be hated. You know, you look at everybody, all the Democrats, they hate Bezos. They hate Musk. They hate Zuckerberg, you know, for being successful. It’s envy. It’s class warfare. And they’re playing that up strong. Elizabeth Warren, the wealth tax, the fair share. You know, that is the message I see five or six times a day, seven days a week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so let’s say that the left totally focuses on class warfare because, let’s face it, carving up society in all the other ways is selling worse and worse and worse. And I think you made a great… You know, look, the border, they’ve got to become border hawks. I’m sorry, open borders will not sell. People don’t like it. You’ve got to become a border hawk. So… What if they go to class warfare only, but what if more and more Republicans are listening to people like Jersey Joe and giving the answers to that stuff and saying, hey, the rich are already paying far more than their fair share. Here’s a few numbers.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I think that’s what they have to do, is you have to counter that with easily verifiable facts. Like, hey, the top 1% are already… paying more in income taxes than the entire bottom 90% combined. Right. You tell that to people and they’re, no, you’re like, they don’t, they’re incredulous. They don’t believe it. And when you finally say, you know, here’s the link to the, to the IRS website, here’s cash pay statistics. It’s like, oh crap. I never knew that. I’ve actually been able to, I’m going to use the word, turn some people and convince them that they’ve been lied to. And trust me, these left-wing propaganda sites, they are, they, they, they do lie to people. They are propaganda sites And they tell you that the rich aren’t paying their fair share. We both know that they are.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, of course they are. Well, Joe, don’t you think the biggest problem that the Democrats have right now is that they had power and blew it? OK, everywhere they run things. First of all, the Democrats run all the urban areas. They run the inner cities. And that’s where it’s the worst to live. People are fleeing the inner cities. They all look forward to, gee, I hope I can buy something out in the suburbs and get away. Right. They’re all running away from everything the Democrats run. OK, the Democrats run California. They run New York. They run New Jersey. No offense. They run Illinois. Where are people running from? If you look right now, I just saw an article. The five states that people are running from are all blue states. The five states people are immigrating to are all red states. OK. And so, you know, you take a look at even in blue states like California, they just voted in. criminalizing a lot of stuff that they were not criminalizing. Why? Because crime was running rampant. And so these George Soros DAs are getting thrown out left and right. Everything that the Democrats got where they got to run things imploded. And how do you now turn around and say, oh, gee, we’re not that? I mean, that’s rough. Look at it from our side. What if Trump and the Republicans, let’s say we hold the Senate and House in 2026. You know, probably won’t, but you never know. We might. And so let’s say we’re in charge four years and let’s say we blow it. Let’s say we’re in charge four years. Crime is running rampant, right? People are dying from fentanyl everywhere. You’ve got race riots. You’ve got all the same stuff. Let’s say, you know, inflation is through the roof. Let’s say we get our way and everything goes badly. We’re going to get killed in 2028. You know that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which, by the way, I don’t think is going to happen. Okay. But that is what just happened with the Democrats. How do you come back?
SPEAKER 10 :
Andy, I don’t know the answer. I wish I had the answer, but I just don’t know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Would you agree they’re in a hard place? I’m sorry? Would you agree, basically, they’re in a hard place?
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s why I said, I don’t know. They’re in a hard place. I don’t know how they get out of that box. So, you know, Andy, I wish I had an answer. I don’t.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m going to give you my, and then we’ll go to break. We’ll come back and do all your stuff, okay? But I’m going to give you my prediction. All they’ve got left is to demonize the right. So I think what they’re going to do, is just basically say every time that Tom Holman deports somebody, you know, deports anybody who is not a criminal, they’re going to get it on the news and say, this is somebody who lived next to you. Okay? Now, I don’t know how that’s going to sell because people are going to say, yeah, but they’re still illegal and I’m really mad because they’re taking our jobs. But I’m just saying. OK, any time, any time the Republicans do anything, they’re going to demonize because they can’t they can’t sell their own products. So all they can do is attack the other persons.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it’s all they got left. Comebacks, you know, if you look at, for instance, you know, the homelessness, I saw the statistic this morning. Homelessness, I think, is up another 18 percent this year over last year. Well, wow. You know, when you’re when you’ve got another four. These 4 million illegal aliens that came in this country last year, they’re not sleeping on the street. They’re in living quarters someplace. They’re in housing. Well, if you’ve got 4 million people, if the number of housing units is relatively fixed and you push 4 million extra bodies into those fairly finite number of housing units, of course, rents are going to go up, people can’t afford rents, and people are going to wind up homeless. And I think Republicans have to play up that message That, yeah, homelessness has grown by 18%. I think we’ve gone from 630,000 last year to 770,000 homeless people this year, by the way. And last year was up 12% from the year before. And illegal aliens, obviously, the people living on the street, by and large, are not illegal aliens. No. They’re housed. They are housed. They’re being housed in hotels. I think there were stories in Denver where some of those long-term hotels where people who had been there for months, that was their home. They had a dog. That was their mailing address. They were displaced by illegal aliens. The city of Denver went and says, we need to rent your entire hotel. You have to tell all your existing tenants to move out. And you had American citizens, taxpaying American citizens, living in those hotels or were displaced and became homeless to make room for illegal aliens.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Bottom line, Joe, if Trump brings an economic boom and you got to understand going forward, the Democrats don’t get to run against Trump. Trump’s at least had the big weakness of being a bad debater. Right. Right. So if he brings an economic boom and now they got to run against Vance or a DeSantis or one of these people. Right. Right. I don’t know what they’re going to do. In fact, I’ll just say it. If we have an economic boom, the Democrats are in deep, deep doo-doo.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re toast. Unless this administration screws up royally, it’s going to be a slam dunk.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I would hope for even bigger majorities in the House and Senate and hopefully even a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Wouldn’t that be great? No more filibuster.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’d be fantastic. Okay, before we go to break, how do people reach Jersey Joe?
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. First of all, if you want to send me an email and get put on my distribution list, you go to just send me an email to joe at jerseyjoe.com. Just remember to spell Jersey, J-E-R, as in Robert, Z as in zebra, E-E, jerseyjoe.com. If you want to listen to my podcast, you can find it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, just do The Situation with Jersey Joe, J-E-R-Z-E-E, or go to my website, JerseyJoe.com.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, Jersey Joe on the line. Joe, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, I’m going to try to keep it light. First, Andy, are you getting ready to make any New Year’s resolutions?
SPEAKER 08 :
I haven’t chosen which ones to break yet.
SPEAKER 10 :
But go ahead. All right, because I’ve come up with one I’m going to make here. And I’ve decided that I actually like being a miserable, grumpy, old, sarcastic bastard. So for my resolution this year, I’m going to try to kick it up a notch for next year. Good. Good for you. Second thing, you know, Times Square, I was watching 100,000 people going to meet Times Square tomorrow. And, you know, there are no public bathrooms within six blocks of Times Square. No, I didn’t know that. Yes, no public bathrooms in all the restaurants and businesses, you know, bathrooms for our customers only. So this is, you can find this published. So do you know what the recommended solution for these 100,000 people are who are going to be in Times Square tomorrow? What? Adult diapers.
SPEAKER 1 :
No!
SPEAKER 10 :
Andy, I am absolutely serious. No, no one wants to celebrate after that. Adult diapers. I know it’s going to be 10 o’clock in Denver, but when you’re watching these 100,000 people in Times Square, just remember there’s no public bathroom within six blocks of Times Square. So ask yourself. Now, maybe some of the guys can go down the side street and, you know, pee up against the building. But for by and large, the women in particular, adult diapers are the recommended solution.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let’s face it. The side streets are going to be packed, too. There’s just too many people down there. And no, just no. Come on, adult diapers. Let me ask you this really quick, Joe, before you go on. Do you like celebrating New Year’s around a lot of people?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, hell no. Hell no. Never have.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t either. I don’t like the crowds. I really don’t. But I wonder, though, if there’s going to be a lot of Republicans out celebrating together, because I have not been this excited about a new year in so long.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you and me both, but I think there’s other ways to celebrate than to go out. And by the way, it’s going to be kind of a freezing drizzle tonight in Times Square on top of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, is it really?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Yikes. It’s not nice here. By the way, here’s another one. Smart water, which is now $6 a bottle, if you’re still buying it, here’s a clue. It’s not working. What do you mean? Oh, it’s smart water. If you’re still paying $6 a bottle for smart water, here’s a clue, guys. It’s not working. I agree. I agree. All right. Here’s one. A little boy, and this happened last week. It was Christmas, and they had all the department store Santas. So a little boy’s on Santa’s lap. And Santa says to the little boy, what do you want for Christmas? And the little boy says, Santa, I want a Porsche for Christmas. And Santa says, no, no, come on, be serious. I can’t give you a Porsche. Well, what else would you want? And the little boy says, well, I would like government to stop lying to me. And Santa says, what color would you like that Porsche to be?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you’ve got to stick with the easier. Yeah, absolutely. I like it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, Andy, you just had a birthday recently, didn’t you?
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you’re getting up there, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
I am definitely up there.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. So here’s a quiz. And I know many of our listeners fall in this category. So here’s the are you old quiz. Starting with, do you have something called cash in your wallet? If you do, that’s a dead giveaway.
SPEAKER 09 :
I do.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s a dead giveaway. You’re old. Now, do you sometimes get the urge to play a Steely Dan CD? Do you have CDs? If so, you’re old. That’s true. That’s good. Do you have reading glasses, driving glasses, TV glasses, and you can’t find any of them? If so, you’re old. If you took or are planning to take an Alaskan cruise vacation, you’re old. Yes. And if you need to take a minute to plan your approach before picking something up off the floor and figuring out how you’re going to get up again, you’re old. I would say so. That’s good. I like that. Here’s something factual that came out. This antivirus company does this once a year. And they publish the 20 most commonly used passwords in the United States. And they get these, you know, they go to the companies like, you know, Google and whatnot and Gmail and say, you know, who can see your passwords? And they say, you know, what are the most commonly used passwords? You want to guess what the most commonly used password in the United States is for the second or like the third year in a row? Password? I don’t know. The password was number three. One, two, three, four, five, six.
SPEAKER 1 :
Really?
SPEAKER 10 :
Password is number three. Then they had, oh, then password one, ABC, one, two, three, QWERTY. You know what QWERTY is, right? The letters across the top of the keyboard. Yeah. Password with a capital P. So password made it twice. Password all lowercase and then password with a capital P and then password lowercase followed by a one. So password made it three times. Princess Football, Monkey, Sunshine, 1-1, 1-1, 1-1. I love you. Monkey? Monkey.
SPEAKER 08 :
Monkey?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Monkey. I wouldn’t have seen that one, but okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
But apparently, so if you’re a hacker, the very first thing you do is you run those 20 passwords through somebody. So, folks, if you’re using any of those and you want to get hacked, just keep using them. Okay. All right. All right. You know, I got a clip. We talk about guns and gun violence. There’s a town in Georgia, you may have heard, called Kennesaw. And they actually have a law in the books. Many people, I wasn’t aware of this law, but I heard about this law. And they actually passed a law many years ago that said if you live in the city, if you’re a resident town of Kennesaw, you must own a gun. It can be a rifle or a pistol. Not only a gun, but a gun and ammunition. So if you have a For instance, if you don’t want to carry a gun, you have to have a rifle and ammunition in your house. So this guy went down to Kennesaw to see if it was really true. And I think we’ve got a clip, and then I’m going to give you some stats on the homicide rate in Kennesaw when we’re all done. So can we play this clip of the guy in Kennesaw? Here it comes.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s me turning myself into the police in Kennesaw, Georgia, where every head of household by law must own a gun. But does everyone here actually own a gun? Is there less crime? And is this law actually enforced? Is it true you legally have to own a gun in Kennesaw? It’s on the books. I heard.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hell yeah, bro. Are you strapped?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. You’re strapped? Yeah. You have a blippy.
SPEAKER 14 :
not with me now do you have one at your house yes i think everybody’s strapped people come in here all the time with a lot of concealed carriers yeah or just like rifles oh really when i moved here they’re like yeah just make sure you got your gun like what huh we were already strapped but they were like you gotta have a rifle do you have to own a rifle to live in kennesaw yes and everyone here knows about it yes and people actually follow through with it Yes. Everybody’s trapped, even my grandmother.
SPEAKER 05 :
That ordinance was passed 41 years ago, and given the level of gun violence in the United States, I think it’s time for Kennesaw to make a statement to repeal that ordinance.
SPEAKER 19 :
After hearing from the people, I drove downtown to an antique store to see if I could find the law in writing. What is this? It’s the law. Every head of household residing in the city limits of the city of Kennesaw is required to maintain together with ammunition. Therefore, in the city penal code, this is real. Would you say everyone was strapped back then? We all are. Wow. Wow. I like this place.
SPEAKER 10 :
For those who aren’t familiar with the jargon, strapped means carrying a gun. Yes. That you’re strapped. So anyway, Kennesaw is not a tiny little town. It’s got 35,000 people in it. You know what the number of homicides in Kennesaw was in 2022? Zero. Correct. You know what the number of homicides in Kennesaw, Georgia was in 2023? Zero. You know what the number of homicides in Kennesaw, Georgia is so far in 2024? Ten. Just kidding. Zero. So here you have a town where if not everybody, I’m sure there’s some people who ignore the law, but the vast majority, it’s probably the most armed city And by the way, I looked at their other stuff, like burglary. If you’re a burglar in Kennesaw, Georgia, you have to be insane to break into somebody’s house if you know their home.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would think home invasion would be next to nil. In fact, I would think that basically thieves in general just steer clear.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. And store owners have guns. There was a seven-minute video. We only played the first minute, 30. But this guy goes into a store, and every store owner reaches under the counter. Yep, here’s my gun. I mean, you’ve got to be crazy if you think you’re going to hold up the corner market because literally everybody in that town has a gun.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and it’s not just when everybody has a gun, Joe. It’s not just the gun at the place that you go into, right? Well, gee, I don’t want to rob this place. They have a gun. It’s even worse than that. When their alarm goes off and you’re running out the door, everybody around you is armed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, or the other three or four customers. Yeah, or the other three. Imagine you’re in there. Maybe the clerk doesn’t have a gun. and there’s four customers in the store behind you. They’re armed. They’re armed. Kennesaw has an incredibly low crime rate. Home burglaries, robberies.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what I don’t think happens? I don’t think anybody sets somebody on fire on the bus there. No, nobody would set it up. No, and I’m not even joking there. I’m saying, guys, no one sets anyone on fire on the bus there. Do you get it? New York, strict gun laws. This place, yeah, strict gun law. You better have one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Better have one, yes. So I just think it’s an interesting… People are saying, you know, more guns, more gun violence. No, Kennesaw probably has more guns per capita than any city in the country, and they have the lowest rate. You know, no… no homicides of any, nobody gets stabbed. Nobody gets shot. Uh, burglaries are nil, uh, armed robberies and stores are nil.
SPEAKER 08 :
Joe, let me ask, let me ask you a question looking forward with Trump here. Okay. Because Trump believes in the second amendment. He does. He’s not a big time guy on it, but he believes in it. Do you think that we are going to see schools across the country under Trump turned into harder targets?
SPEAKER 10 :
It has to. And I think they, they will, you know, and, I don’t know how many people know this, but we already have 12 states that have embraced this. You familiar with the FASTER program? Sort of. It’s a program that’s active in at least 12 states where volunteers, staff and teachers can volunteer to go away for a week to receive extensive training in handling school shooting situations. These classes are taught by active duty SWAT officers, and they get more intensive training than your average police officer does. And when they come back to their schools, whether they’re the principal or a custodian or the gym teacher, they are authorized to carry or have access to a concealed weapon. And there are literally hundreds of schools in 12 states where this program has been in place for over a decade, and not in one school where this program is in place. Has there even been an attempted school shooting? And one of the reasons is each and every one of them puts this massive billboard out front that says something to the effect, warning our teachers and staff are armed and prepared to repel any attempt to injure our students with lethal force.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, let’s look at the other side of that, because the left will hear that and say, what? You’ve got all these people. With guns? How many of them are going crazy and just shooting up their schools, shooting up the kids?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it’s been over a decade and hasn’t happened once. Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thousands of it. Again, I said it’s I think it’s almost a thousand schools and every school you typically have several people. You know, they go as a group, you know, typically two to five per school. So you’ve got thousands of people who have been trained carrying lethal weapons in these schools in 12 different states. For more than a decade now, and not once has any of them misused the gun. There’s not been a single accidental shooting. No student has gotten a hold of the gun. So I think the secret is, number one, you have, you know, if you can afford to pay for armed security and teachers and staff don’t have to take these volunteers, that’s fantastic. But you have to have only one entrance. It has to be secure. There has to be some sort of armed security to repel somebody. was intent on harming you. You can’t have back doors propped open, and you have to have classroom doors that are capable of being locked and bolted from the inside and that are impervious to somebody trying to shoot their way in. Now, can you ever prevent 100% of school shootings? No. But can you mitigate the damage and the death toll? Yes. So can somebody burst through and shoot one person, two people? Yes. But 26 people? No. Not if you properly… design and protect your schools. Steel doors, so…
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, I totally agree. I think with Trump, we’re going to have better laws in place and things are going to go better. But let me ask you this one. Okay. Do you think we’re going to see more Daniel Pennies or fewer? Because, you know, we have Daniel Penny. He’s found innocent. We realize, my gosh, the guy’s a national hero. And then some lady gets set on fire. A lot of people are calling for more Daniel Pennies. Do we see it?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think the fear of becoming a Daniel Penny, and that was certainly life-altering for him, I think that is going to dissuade people from becoming the next Daniel Penny.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush on the line. Jersey Joe. Joe, what do you got next?
SPEAKER 10 :
Just to follow up on the end of our last conversation, Colorado does have a chapter of FASTER. Armed staff is permissible by law in Colorado, but not every school district has adopted it. So if you go to fastercolorado.org, O-R-G, you’ll see the programs. And if you’re a parent in a school district and your school district doesn’t have it and you think it’s a good idea for there to be armed response in your schools and your school district hasn’t adopted, why don’t you go to fastercolorado.org, learn about the program, and at the next school board meeting, ask your school board, why haven’t we adopted this program? Because if you want to keep your kids safe through, I think, having people inside your school who can immediately react Because, you know, if you call the 911, you know, they might get there 10, 12, 15 minutes. A lot of damage can be done in that 10 to 15-minute window versus somebody meeting that person with bad intent as they come through the door. Okay. Moving on. Yeah. Progressive. This was in Denver. What channel is Brian Moss on? Is it CBS or?
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m not sure. Channel 4? Channel 4. Anyway.
SPEAKER 10 :
General Ford, all right. He did an article about a month back about insurance companies adding phantom people to your insurance policy and charging you for it, and some people haven’t even noticed it. Have you heard that story? No. Yep. It’s called Phantom Drivers, just Brian Moss. This guy got his insurance policy, and he saw a big bump in his premium, and he looked and he questioned. They said they added a driver. And apparently what Progressive, just one of many, does is they look at driver’s records. They look at, for instance, the registration. Like if you bought a car from somebody else and you bought the car with the plates and you put the plates in your name, they’re looking at these old records and they’re saying, oh, you’ve got two drivers or there’s three people living at your address. And they found this is running rampant where they are, without your knowledge, just adding unnamed additional drivers to your policy. and there’s one guy in particular, he lives alone, he’s not married, no kids, and they added a second driver to his policy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Why would they do that? Joe, but if they get caught doing that, it’s fraud. They’re going to get sued and nailed.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, it was a good intention. It was based on what they thought to be, quote, credible information.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they’re using public records, and they’re saying, well, based on public records… We assumed that there was more than one licensed driver in your household. In fact, that’s one of the things they did. They looked at driver’s license records and they looked at the street address on those driver’s license. So, and if you moved into a home and that home previously had three licensed drivers in it and they do a driver’s license check and those people haven’t updated their driver’s license, say they even moved out of state, according to their records, there’s you plus three other licensed drivers in your house. So according to them, there’s Ford-licensed drivers in your house. Wow. So, folks, if you’ve got your policy renewal, make sure that they haven’t attacked on phantom drivers. Just Google phantom drivers progressive. It was a big story, at least in Denver. And I found out it’s nationwide. It’s not just Denver, but Denver was the first one to uncover it about phantom drivers. So just throw that out there as a… You may be charged for people that don’t exist on your insurance policy. All right. You want to move on to more stupid taxes? I do. New York State. Yesterday, Governor Kathy Hochul signed into law a new law that is going to charge fossil fuel companies $75 billion over the next 25 years that works out to $3 billion a year for the damage done their products are causing to the state of New York’s environment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I saw this. This is going to be devastating, Joe.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, if you’re one of these… By the way, they don’t even make $3 billion a year in profits in New York State alone. So one, they either have stopped selling fossil fuels in New York State, or they’re simply more likely, they’re simply going to pass through that cost to the consumers. So the consumers, the people… Who’s going to wind up paying this $3 billion per year in fossil fuel penalties? The consumers, the residents of the state of New York, not the oil companies. They’re going to pass it through with a markup to maintain their profit margin.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and that crushes everything in New York. I mean, let’s face it. When you jack up the price of gas, you kill the economy. And diesel fuel.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, we’re talking about drivers. You know, if you get on like the New York State Thruway, half the vehicles on the New York State Thruway are tractor-trailers. moving freight into the state. And that fuel is going to be passed on in their transportation costs, which gets passed on to the price of the product on the shelf. So what they’ve just done basically is passed a $3 billion tax increase on the residents and the businesses. And, of course, as they pass it on to the businesses, the businesses will pass it on to their customers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you think that’s going to be – I mean, $3 billion, though, in a state that size, do you think that’s going to be spread out so much that most consumers won’t feel it?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, let’s say you’ve got, I think, 20 million people, but that’s only about 9 million households. It’s a couple hundred bucks per household per year, and I think you’ll see it in the price of fuel. I think it’ll come out to be another 60 cents a gallon on the price a gallon of gas. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I don’t think they’re going to like that, Joe.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I don’t think they’re going to like it. But, you know, that’s New York State. By the way, you know, it’s not the producers. You know, a lot of fossil fuel, we call them fossil fuels, but a tremendous amount of Crude oil gets turned into things that never get burned. Asphalt. How much blacktop roadway is there in the state of Colorado? Tons. How many asphalt shingles on homes? Tons. Tons. How much plastic is there in Colorado?
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, any time people talk about getting rid of oil, all you’ve got to do is take one look at everything in their lives that is derived from oil, and you realize they’re insane.
SPEAKER 10 :
Fertilizers are derived from oil.
SPEAKER 08 :
That I did not know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they’re fertilizers. But the point is, not all oil gets burned. Again, we’re talking asphalt roads, asphalt shingles, every piece of plastic in your house, in your car. By the way, your car is probably almost as much plastic weight in your car as there is metallic weight in your car these days. So not all… Again, when they impose this stuff on the oil companies, it’s just to pass through the consumer. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tell you what, when we come back, I’m going to look at that. But also, could we look at a little bit of what it’s going to take for mining for electric cars? We can. We can. Because we need to get rid of them. Let’s take a break here. Flesh Law is next. Kevin Flesh, that’s F-L-E-S-H. He represented me and my wife in a traffic accident. And we won easily. No one’s better than Kevin. So call Flesh Law at 303-806-8886 or go to FleshLawFirm.com.
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Jersey Joe on the line. Joe, really quick here. One of the things that excites me the most about Donald Trump is he’s going to get rid of EV mandates. And for those who say, oh, what about the planet? I want to remind people that’s a 1,000-pound battery in a lot of these EVs. And to get that 1,000 pounds of battery, you’ve got to chew up 500,000 pounds of rock. And then you’ve got to process it, and you’ve got to do all kinds of other things, which, by the way, take oil to do. It is a huge, huge dent on the environment.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. And you didn’t even touch on coal. You know, I’m going to tell you where the coal is.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I didn’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
One of the major components of these battery cases is stainless steel because you can’t put them in regular steel because that will rust in the battery. So all these battery enclosures have to be stainless steel. Well, I know you’re not a chemist, but in order to make stainless steel, you need nickel. And let me read you. I sent this to John about six months ago. One of the largest countries in the world for producing nickel ore is Indonesia. They used to be the world’s leader, and they used to just mine the ore regularly. and ship it off to other countries. Well, Indonesia said, you know, we’re shipping this off and making other countries rich because they’re refining our ore into nickel. And the EVs have just exploded the demand for nickel. Let me just tell you what’s happened to Indonesia since they decided to go from just being a producer of ore to a producer of the nickel itself, which means you have to smelt the ore. And how do you smelt ore… into the metal. How do you smelt something? How do you smelt ore? Coal? Coal. Let me read you this quote from this report. The region of Wida Bay is now one of the world’s largest nickel production facilities. Fiery smelters and multiple coal-fired power plants burn nonstop to refine nickel ore into material for batteries and steel. Indonesia aims to dominate the world’s nickel supply, and it’s succeeding. The country has gone from having two—now, remember the number two— to now 27 over the last 10 years, with 22 more planned. They went from two to 27 with another 22. And to make room for these 27, soon to be 49, coal-fired smelting plants, which are huge, what do they have to do? They have to clear the rainforest to make room for them. So they’re cutting down rainforests.
SPEAKER 08 :
To burn coal.
SPEAKER 10 :
To burn coal, to smelt nickel ore into refined nickel, which they’re shipping to these companies that make battery enclosures for electric vehicles.
SPEAKER 08 :
All to make electric vehicles that, by the way, would not sell without massive subsidies. This is the stupidest thing in the world. By the way, you’ve got about a minute left. Go.
SPEAKER 10 :
The one ugly story, did you hear about, and if you didn’t hear about, I’m going to ask why, about the gay couple in Georgia who were arrested for having sex with their two adopted children.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, yes, horrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
And my question, it’s a horrible story. A gay couple, two guys, adopted two kids who are now 9-11. Not only did they have sex with their own adopted children, they were pimping them out to other gay people. My question is, they were arrested in 2022. They were sentenced about a month ago. Why didn’t that story… make the news, either at the time of their arrest or at the time of their conviction.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, it doesn’t fit the narrative.
SPEAKER 10 :
Why didn’t the media cover it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn’t fit the narrative. I mean, it was a horrible, disgusting story about these two poor children, who at the time, I think, were seven and nine years old at the time, being sexually abused by their adopted gay parents. And what gets me shaking my head is why did the media decide this isn’t newsworthy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it is newsworthy, and so is everything else you said. Jersey Joe, thank you so much, and hope to hear from you on Friday. Take care. Folks, that’s it for today. Hour number one replays next this Friday. We’re going to be back with the first live show of 2025, and here’s the Hour 2 topic, Best Female Recording Artist. That should be fun. Until then, have a great, safe New Year’s. Drive safe. God bless. Thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
