In this engaging episode of Rush to Reason, host Andy Pate takes the reins in John Rush’s absence, guiding listeners through a compelling conversation with Jersey Joe. As they delve into the ever-evolving political landscape, they share insights on energy policies, the potential shifts in the Supreme Court, and the intricate dynamics within American politics. Through entertaining banter, they highlight the influence of media and the importance of informed dialogue in shaping public perception.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did!
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Get a job, turd! You haven’t made everybody equal. You’ve made them the same and there’s a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life. That there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It’s Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by High Five Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, and Electric, where every call ends with a high five.
SPEAKER 18 :
Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And welcome to hour number three here on Rushed Reason. I’m Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. Just one more hour. John’s going to be back tomorrow. We are all very excited. I’m sure we’ll hear a lot about his trip. On the line right now, we got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? I’m doing okay. How you doing? Doing all right. Doing all right. And how’s that pretty wife of yours doing? She is doing magnificently well, as she always is. Joe, before we go any further, how can people read your stuff and hear your stuff?
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If they want to read it, they should go to the JerseyJoe.com website. Just remember to spell Jersey, J-E-R-Z-E-E. That’s an R-Z to E’s, JerseyJoe.com. If you want to be put on my mailing list, just send me an email to Joe at JerseyJoe.com. If you want to listen to my weekly 30-minute podcast, you can find it on any of the major podcast platforms, including Apple or Spotify. Just search for The Situation with Jersey Joe. Just remember to spell Jersey J-E-R-Z-E-E. And you can listen to it audio only. But if you go to my website, I talk about a lot of things. I play a lot of clips. I reference a lot of documents. If you want to see those links, you’ll need to go to the website, JerseyJoe.com, where you can actually… In fact, we’re going to play some of those clips tonight, and some of the facial expressions of the people are worth going there to just watch the video instead of just listening to the audio. So I urge people to go to JerseyJoe.com.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, and Joe, before we get into your stuff, I want to touch on how I ended the last hour because I want to ask you this too. Donald Trump is about to take office. What has you the most excited? And let me throw one thing in that I forgot to throw in at the end of hour two. Energy. Drill, baby, drill. I am so excited. I am so furious. with Biden closing down more of our offshore drilling. Granted, it was in areas that we’re not going to explore much anyway. My wife told me that. She’s in oil and gas. But it’s still annoying. We shouldn’t be closing down any of it. We should be opening up all of it. And I’m furious. I am so excited that we are going to expand our oil and gas and start getting back to real energy. And I also am excited because I know it’s going to be hard on China and I think they deserve it because China is cornering the market on green energy worldwide because they’re cornering the market on all the materials you need for batteries. Right. And it’s going to be really tough for them. China was absolutely banking on Trump losing this election. This is going to be very hard for them. I’m excited. So Jersey Joe, what is you most excited about Donald Trump coming back to office?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it hasn’t happened yet, but I suspect at the end of this Supreme Court term, you’re going to hear Clarence Thomas announcing his resignation, and quite possibly Sam Alito at the same time. So again, I’m very excited about Trump and energy, and hopefully the XL pipeline will be reopened. So I’m excited about seeing energy prices come down. I’m seeing about America become dominant again. I’m also excited about reducing the size of our annual budget deficit. I’d like to see a lot of, between Ramaswamy and Musk, about cutting down the size of the government. That has me excited.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, one second. Before you race on, though, I want to go back to one because I agree. In my opinion, Alito and Thomas need to retire soon. In the next eight months. Yep. They need to retire while we have this Senate. Well, it’s going to be an easy confirmation and we can get their replacements in place. They need to do it for the country. And I know that’s that’s exactly what the left said to what’s her name? Gosh, what was her name?
SPEAKER 14 :
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That’s what the left was saying to her. Well, you know what? They were right. And she sold out her side by not doing that. You need to step down when you have an opportunity like this. You’ve got your president who’s going to share your beliefs and is going to put in somebody who is going to be close to your views. And you’ve also got a Senate on your side. You cannot let that opportunity go away.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right, because in two years, we’re going to have another midterm election. Right. And there’s going to be about 33 Senate seats up for election. And if we lose two seats in the Senate, we lose the ability to confirm Supreme Court justices. So Alito and Thomas need to announce their retirement at the end of this term in June of next year.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think they do, too. Man, if they do, that’ll be fantastic. I sure hope they do. Okay. Continue on, sir.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well… By the way, Charlie said he needed some time to tee up some of the clips. I’ve got a bunch of clips I want to play tonight.
SPEAKER 18 :
Charlie says he is ready.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, let’s go. Let’s start with – and these are some of the ones you’re going to watch. There’s a – I don’t know if you watched the New Year’s Eve with Andy Cohen. He’s the guy that hosts the Real Housewives series and Anderson Cooper. And they had a female comedian, Whitney Cummings. And they asked her – they were asking each other, well, looking back at 2024 – And she went on this very, very brief, her take on 2024, and she makes reference to, remember the movie Weekend at Bernie’s where they were propping people up? Yeah. And she makes reference to Pfizer and Viagra. So, Charlie, can we play that? And so listen very, very closely to her talking about how the Democrats bungled the 2024 election. Charlie, can we play that? It just needs the first 48 seconds, I think. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 24 :
Ah, well, we hope you enjoyed 2024’s New Year’s Eve roast. No, we’re not talking about the food. We’re talking about comedian Whitney Cummings, who went after President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris on CNN’s New Year’s Eve live special with Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen. Let’s watch.
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2024 election fried our brains. The Democrats couldn’t hold a primary because they were too busy holding a body upright. Are we still rolling? Am I off? Go for it. It was amazing that the pro-choice party didn’t give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate. Kamala was forced on us so hard you’d think she was patented by Pfizer or Moderna, whichever one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow. They were so busy propping up Biden, of course, to reference the weekend with Bernie. And then her reference, you’d think Kamala Harris, they forced her like she was patented by Pfizer, which is a reference to Viagra.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know what really gets me about this, Joe? They’re all complaining about Joe Biden right now. All right. They’re complaining about it. And I understand Joe Biden was mentally gone. And that’s one thing that hurt him as a candidate. But the main thing that hurt him was the failure of his policies. And all of his policies were everything they wanted. Joe Biden became nothing but a rubber stamp for the hard left, for all these people who are attacking him right now and blaming him for their loss.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and you say his policy. I think you’re right. They weren’t. And you’re aware of all the the the black SUVs that were back and forth between Obama’s Georgetown resident in the White House, almost on a daily occurrence. You’re aware of those, right? I mean, they had his staff going over to Obama’s residence.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They were coming back and they were telling Biden, here’s what you’re going to say. Here’s the bill you’re going to sign. Here’s what you’re going to propose. So it wasn’t really Biden’s policies. Again, he was he was the he was the puppet. He was the puppet for Obama and the rest of Obama’s staff, the holdover.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the left is going to succeed at trying to characterize their problems as being because of one man? Now, I know they can’t totally succeed, but do you think they’ll be able to succeed in characterizing a lot of their problems as being because of one man and put it all on Joe Biden, just like the left up in Canada is trying to put it all off on Trudeau?
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, there’s always, you know, the U.S. population, we’re not a monolith. You know, you’ve got those that are aware and alert enough, like the listeners to this show, that won’t swallow that. Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
But what about the people in the middle?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think, unfortunately, there’s people in the middle. You know, I spend time on these social media sites. There’s an incredibly number of uninformed people who disbelieve whatever the media feeds them, which is why, by the way, I call my podcast News in Perspective You Won’t Hear on TV because… Number one, they’re news stories you’ll never hear about, or two, you’ll hear the story, but you’ll only hear the side the media wants you to hear. And I’ve got a couple of clips today where you’re going to hear exact examples of that. So unfortunately, I’m going to say about at least half the middle will believe what they’re told. and 100% of the Democrats will accept it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I think the Democrats are looking for, the old word is scapegoat. Scapegoat. And they should be looking in the mirror. They should be looking in the mirror because let’s face it, Joe, their policies failed, okay? They opened up the border entirely and we were overrun. People are upset. They put in policies that drove up the prices of everything you buy. Here in Colorado, we’re paying a zillion dollars for eggs. Why? Directly because of Colorado legislators.
SPEAKER 14 :
Cage-free chicken.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, everything has to be cage-free. Guess what? That’s a lot more expensive. And they put it through. You know, my opinion, really quick here, I wish Republicans would start speaking more like this. Other people shouldn’t make you pay for their activism. If they want to choose cage-free eggs, they should be able to, but why should you pay for their activism? Maybe you have a different thing that you want to be into.
SPEAKER 14 :
Go ahead. By the way, you know, the comedian Penn Jillette talks about, it was in reference, he talks about charity at the point of a gun. He said a lot of people feel this sense of moral superiority because they They get legislation passed that force other people to do other things like, you know, poverty programs and this. The same thing with cage-free eggs. So many people out there get this sense of moral superiority because, well, I got this piece of legislation passed that’s going to do away with chickens in cages, and they feel great about it. Well, and, of course, once they get that passed, if you don’t comply, if you’re a grocer and you don’t comply and you resist, you know, when they come and tell you you have to stop and you resist, they eventually come and send the police in there. with guns to arrest you. Right. And it’s, you know, so it’s this moral superiority at the point of a gun that I object to. If you don’t want to buy eggs from chicken kept in cages… By the way, here’s one thing on that, by the way. Chickens that are kept in open pens, bird flu is spread by the droppings of wild birds. So when you have chickens in pens, outdoor pens, and wild birds… roost on the top of the chicken wire and crap in those pens, that’s how domestic chickens get bird flu.
SPEAKER 18 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, now you know.
SPEAKER 18 :
But I don’t think in those disgusting terms.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Well, but that’s, you know, law of unintended consequences, by the way. But that’s how bird flu… is transmitted from wild chickens to domesticated chickens, from wild birds to domesticated chickens.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think what it comes down to is that a lot of Americans are getting really, really sick of people in power making everybody pay for a small group’s activism. You really want green energy. You’re going to make everybody pay for your green energy. You really want cage-free chickens. You’re going to make everybody pay for the price of eggs that you want for your activism. And it’s like recycling in an HOA. The people who want recycling in an HOA make everybody else pay for their activism. It drives people nuts, and I think Americans are turning away from it.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s called the tyranny of the minority. Yes. And I think, you know, same thing with bike lanes and whatnot.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yes. Yes, because you’ve got gridlock all over Denver that is so much worse because of these lanes that nobody’s in that you could have cars going down.
SPEAKER 14 :
The tyranny of the minority, whether it’s cage-free eggs, whether it’s bike lanes or, you know, all these other taxis, you know, that only benefits certain small groups. And again, it’s people that you didn’t vote for, you know, telling you what you have to do. Again, if you don’t want to buy eggs from chickens that were in cages, don’t buy the cage and let the free market, let the free market decide what, you know, how much of which type of eggs gets sold.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you know what? And let’s close out this segment with this. I believe that Americans are going to see over the next four years that way fewer Americans decisions made by the majority are going to affect their lives, control their lives in that way. And so people, even people on the left are going to realize, wait a minute, Donald Trump is not going to come in and make me buy this or that or live this or that because he’s in office. Donald Trump’s not going to try to control your life like all these leftists did through Joe Biden. Is that fair?
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Government that governs best governs least.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason.
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Denver’s Afternoon Rush. KLC 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And we got Jersey Joe on the line. Joe, what do you got for us?
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All right. I want to talk about the farce that was attempted to be perpetrated on the American people. Now, we’ve all seen over the past 14, 15 months the mental decline of Biden. Right. And coincidentally, Saturday Night Live is on holiday break. And so they ran a rerun this past Saturday. And the rerun was from October of 2023. And I just happened, you know, because I always kind of watch it just to see what the other side is talking about. And in October of 2023, the opening skit was a biting satire of Biden’s mental decline. So even in October 23, even Saturday Night Live have turned on him, and they were highlighting his mental decline and how feeble he was. And yet, Charlie’s got a clip of a bunch of, this is Pelosi, Schumer, Kareem Jean-Pierre, his Secretary of State, all telling the American people and all these meet the press, face the nation, how sharp Biden is. And this was, I mean, I’m angry that they covered for him. So can we play this clip of all these people telling, lying to us about how sharp Biden is?
SPEAKER 05 :
Here we go. Does the president have the stamina physically and mentally, do you think, to continue on even after 2024?
SPEAKER 21 :
Don, you’re asking me this question. Oh, my gosh. He’s the president of the United States. You know, he I can’t even keep up with him.
SPEAKER 11 :
The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden is preparing for it. because he is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can testify, because I’ve been working very closely with this president for the past two years. I’ve been knowing him for 30 years. And I’m telling you, this guy’s tough, he’s smart, he’s on his game. Joe Biden has vision, he has knowledge, he has…
SPEAKER 23 :
a strategic thinker.
SPEAKER 25 :
The president is focused. He’s detail-oriented. He’s always thinking about the big picture. He is engaging. He is capable. He has an incredible record as president.
SPEAKER 23 :
And I’m often with him on foreign trips. He’s at the top of his game. So he has a vision. He has knowledge. He has judgment. He has a strategic thinking.
SPEAKER 08 :
I met with the president, I don’t know, five or six weeks ago, and he seemed fine to me. I have complete confidence in the president. I have watched him expertly guide meetings of staff and cabinet members. I could not have more confidence in the president.
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I would just tell you that I meet frequently with the president, and every single time I meet with him, he is just fine.
SPEAKER 23 :
But he is, again, knowledgeable, wise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Incredibly sharp, incredibly probing, incredible command of the details. He is sharp.
SPEAKER 17 :
He is on top of things. There is nothing to these challenges, these suggestions that somehow he’s not sharp and he’s not capable.
SPEAKER 22 :
We see Joe Biden up close. We know how attuned he is to the issue. And you’re going to see how smart he is and the experience he has. I say his age is an asset. He’s wise. Yes, he’s wise. He has wisdom.
SPEAKER 03 :
He has experience. And his experience, because of his age and his wisdom, has been invaluable to this country. A lot of countries, people who’ve been in office a longer period of time are praised for their wisdom.
SPEAKER 01 :
I have seen a lot of 72-year-olds not as capable as this 80-year-old.
SPEAKER 21 :
It is hard for us to keep up with this president.
SPEAKER 12 :
His mental acuity is great. It’s fine. It’s as good as it’s been over the years. He’s fine. All this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity has declined is wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
And this kind of sense that he’s not ready for this job is just a bucket of BS that’s so deep, your boots will get stuck in.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, Joe, that reminds me of when Jill said to Joe after his debate, and you answered all the questions. Yeah. Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 14 :
Is there another Joe Biden we’re not aware of? Because clearly that’s not the guy we all saw for the past year and a half. I mean, and how can they in good conscience as public service stand up and lie to the American people like that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the American people simply find the Democrat party to be even more dishonest just because of their cover up for Joe?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think so. And this goes back to that comment by the committee, that woman, Whitney Cummings, you know, propping up Joe Biden. That’s what they were literally doing was propping him up because we all know that not a single word of what they said in that last two and a half minute clip was true. It was just one continuous lie. It was the party line. And I don’t know how they in good conscience just kept repeating that nonsense.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, as bad as Kamala did in this election, I honestly believe Joe would have lost worse.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think you’re right. I think Joe, the American people, I think, You know, they saw with their own eyes how unfit he was for office. And I think, you know, I know some Democrats wouldn’t have voted for him.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think that the Democrats are going to have a hard time dealing with Trump? And what I mean is this. In his first time around, they were able to pick him apart and slow him down, you know, with lawfare and all kinds of accusations. Obviously, Russia, Russia, Russia.
SPEAKER 14 :
uh i don’t know that they it just seems to me they’ve shot everything out of their quiver what are they going to use on him this time around um you know right now they’re saying well his tax cuts you know we’re going to add trillions to the deficit and whatnot now his by the way the people don’t care yeah they don’t care so unless he screws up royally um You know, I think right now they’re all predicting that it’s going to be the tariffs are going to raise the cost of goods for the American people. And I think they’re crossing their fingers and hoping. Now, you and I both know that Trump is using the threat of tariffs. Right. As a negotiating level. I don’t think he actually intends to do it. You know, he may. By the way, I think we’ll see some.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just so you know, I think we’ll see some out of the gate with places like China and so forth. But that is to start the negotiating.
SPEAKER 14 :
Start the negotiation. But, you know, there’s a bunch of Trump tariffs in place. that Biden could have revoked, but he didn’t. He left him in place. So unless Trump screws up, I think the Democrats are going to be sucking wind, I think it is, in terms of the phrase, in terms of trying to find something to criticize him about.
SPEAKER 18 :
Really quick, before we go to break, what do you think Trump’s election is going to do to China, flat out?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know, we already talked about, you know, he’s going to kill all the EV mandates, so that’s going to put a big dent in China’s export economy. Huge. Huge. Huge. I think China’s going to have to be a lot less hostile to not only the United States, but to places like Taiwan. Their economy is in the toilet right now, and they need us more than we need them. All right.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I think, look, I’m just going to say this. I think China’s in a hard way. I think they really are. I think it’s going to be awful for them because, mostly because of green energy. Okay? They were so reliant on America pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing this green energy scam and getting more and more into electric cars, which we can’t afford. We don’t have a grid for. It doesn’t matter. They were so reliant on that and on that market for green energy. My goodness, I don’t know how they prop it up because they’ve already killed themselves with housing.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, they are continuing to build coal-fired power plants at the rate of one a week. Oh, yeah. They are now the world’s largest consumer of coal.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think we’re going to get back to coal at all? And also, do you think we’ll expand nuclear? Because I think we should.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nuclear and natural gas, and we should not expand coal, and we should let, as the existing coal plants age, we should let them die out.
SPEAKER 18 :
You really think so? I think we can burn coal much more cleanly now. I think coal’s good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. But I’m not saying build new ones. I’m not saying shut them down. But if I have a choice between natural gas, which is plentiful and doesn’t… It is. Because with coal, you do have the ash residue from coal, and you’ve got these big… You’ve seen these big ash things. Right. I think natural gas. If I have to choose between natural gas and coal, I’m going to go natural gas.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, who’s back tomorrow. I’m on the line right now. We’ve got Jersey Joe. Joe, how can people once again hear your stuff?
SPEAKER 14 :
If you just want to listen to the podcast, you go to Spotify or Apple Podcasts and just search for Jersey Joe, J-E-R-Z-E-E, JerseyJoe.com. And you can hear the audio. If you want to see the video along with you’ll find the notes and links to some of the things I talk about, go to the Jersey Joe website at jerseyjoe.com. Just remember to spell Jersey with an R, a Z, and two E’s.
SPEAKER 18 :
One last question, because I’ve been asking Luke this during the show. Do you see a trend in the West away from big government, away from government power? Do you see a trend? Do you see a rise of the individual, individual liberty in the West after what’s happened in Canada and what’s happened in America?
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the West, you mean the Western Hemisphere?
SPEAKER 18 :
I do, because we’re also seeing it in Argentina. We’re seeing it in spots all over.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think, yes, absolutely. When you consider the Western Hemisphere, including South America and Canada, and of course the U.S. with the election of Trump, absolutely, I think there’s a trend, a very strong trend, away from progressivism and socialism towards conservatism, absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, what do you got next?
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, I’m going to talk about media bias now. I don’t know if you’ve heard… Oh, there’s no such thing, Joe.
SPEAKER 18 :
How can you say that?
SPEAKER 14 :
I’ve got another clip I’m going to ask Charlie to play in a minute. You may not have heard this, but in New York City, there was a U.S. postal worker, and every day on his route, there was a deli where he would stop and grab a sandwich, because in New York City, that’s where you get your lunch. The deli makes you a sandwich. And he got into an argument with another patron in the deli over whose turn was it for their order next, and that other patron stabbed him to death. Now, this is the news, and by the way, I looked at four or five different
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, Kathy Hochul would say that’s a perfectly safe deli.
SPEAKER 14 :
Perfectly safe. Anyway, CBS, ABC, NBC all reported this stabbing, and they kept referring to the attacker who stabbed this poker worker to death over a place in line as the woman and she. So, Charlie, can you play that clip, please?
SPEAKER 13 :
New details surrounding the stabbing death of a U.S. postal worker in a deli. Police have identified the 24-year-old suspect, who’s charged with second-degree murder. An employee also tells us the two were regular customers who had no history of disputes in the past. Christy Kalijian has the story from Harlem.
SPEAKER 30 :
we’re hearing from an employee who tells us exactly how this all unfolded he says it started right here while the two were waiting in line fighting over who was first in line then that argument spilled over here to where the coffee machine is and got physical and here’s some new video of 24 year old jaya cruz who police identified as uh who allegedly stabbed to death 36 year old ray hodges a u.s postal worker and this employee tells us that it seemed as though hodges was here first And then Cruz crossed in front of him, and it sparked a whole argument. Here, take a listen to what he said.
SPEAKER 28 :
I separated them. The male guy in the front, the lady, she was in the back. She’s spilling him in his face. And the male guy, he get mad because she spilled him. So he was lemon juice mixed with a coffee machine. He throw on her. So she took the knife. This is so bad. This is my first time I see this happen from my face.
SPEAKER 30 :
And this all unfolded yesterday at around 2.30. We also heard from a teacher at a nearby school who says they had to go into lockdown, which is customary for any sort of dangerous situation. out here but of course it was very scary for her and the nearby community was all just shocked over this violent incident that happened right here and also hearing from the USPS that issued a statement saying that it is looking out for the safety and well-being of its employees and that it is working diligently with the NYPD as they investigate the situation. In Harlem Christy Kalishian CBS News New York.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe I trust every word I just heard.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now let me tell you if you look at the video by the way She towers over the cops. She was at least 6’6″. She was not a she. Now, and the way you know that is four hours before the evening news came on. That was from the evening news. The New York Post, which is a newspaper, ran this story. It says Hodges was on the job Thursday when he was senselessly murdered for cutting by a, quote, woman on the deli line. Sources previously told the Post that Jaya Cruz… who has been described by cops as a transgender woman, had a history of threatening victims with box cutters before he allegedly killed a father or two. So it was a documented fact that this person was a man, yet they can, every single network news show refer to her as a, well, they refer to the killer as a woman and she. Why didn’t they think it was relevant to say it was a transgender woman
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, because look, because they advocate when any time the left advocates for the rights of any group, it doesn’t matter which one. Right. And it could be, in this case, transgenders. Then they need to hide any sins or crimes committed by that group.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And that’s again, this is the bias of the media. And by the way, when I first saw the when I first saw the video, I didn’t read the post report till after I saw the news. And I’m looking at the cops, you know, leaving the police station. There’s one on either side of him. And he’s easily six inches taller than either cop. And I’m going, that’s a woman? And then I read the Post story. No, it wasn’t a woman. But yet, every single network news story reported her as a woman and she. Not as even a transgender.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, let me tell you something, Joe. When you kill somebody, I really don’t care what you want to be called. I’m just going to call you what you are. And I know in California… Wasn’t it in California where they’re saying that it can be actually a crime in like the penal system or whatever to not refer to people by?
SPEAKER 14 :
By their preferred pronouns.
SPEAKER 18 :
By their preferred pronouns. You know what I say? I don’t care what your preferred pronoun is. Honestly, I don’t care anything about you. You hurt people. You kill people. You rob people. You know what your rights are? Nothing. You shouldn’t have committed crimes. And don’t tell me how I’m going to refer to you. I’ll refer to you as anything I want because you hurt people. I go my entire life and not hurt people. You can do the same.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. By the way, on the topic of, I’m going to segue into a different, this was not in my sequence, but… Go ahead. Talk about killing people. Every year, you know, there’s a website called the Officer Down Memorial Page. It’s odmp.org. Again, odmp.org, not com. Officer Down Memorial Page. And every year, throughout the year, they keep a list of all the police officers who die in the line of duty now. Last year, 144 law enforcement officers died. Some died in vehicle accidents. Some had heart attacks on the jobs. But 48 were murdered. And every year, I look at, number one, how many were murdered and who killed them. And unfortunately, there’s a trend which has not changed. Let me give you the stats from this year. Of those 48, and that’s basically one a week. Cops in this country are getting murdered at the rate of one a week. And so I compile a summary of who the cop was, where he worked. You know, the date of his death. And then I put the name of the assailant. And here’s what I came out. This is the demographics of who’s killing our cops. The number of Asian assailants who killed a police officer, zero. Number of Hispanics who killed a cop, two, which is 2.3%. Number of white Caucasian assailants, 20 out of 48. Wow.
SPEAKER 18 :
Whoa, no, no, no. That’s really low because white people make up over 60% of the country.
SPEAKER 14 :
66% of the country. And the remaining group, which makes 12.5% of the population African Americans, were responsible for 26 of those 48, which is 54.2%.
SPEAKER 18 :
Holy smokes! So 12.5% of the country killed well over 50% of the cops.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Intentionally killed, intentionally murdered over 54% of the cops. And unfortunately, this is not an anomaly for this year. This is not an anomaly. Andy, I don’t know the reason why. We don’t have time to speak. That could take up a whole show as to why this particular demographic is so violent in terms of their interaction with law enforcement officers.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, no, no, no, no, no. Let’s take a step back. We’ve got a moment. That demographic is more violent in general. That demographic does a tremendously inordinate amount of the killing. And it’s not because black people are more violent by nature. They aren’t. All people are people. All people are exactly the same. The reason is if any society takes any group and tells them your rage is justified.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 18 :
They will unleash the rage of the worst elements of that group, whatever group it is. You go back 100 years and it was white people doing this. Okay. White people lynching, white people getting away with murder. Literally. Why? Because society said, hey, it’s okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
You’ve been wronged. You’ve been wronged. This is the only fair that you do this to right the wrong you’ve been subjected to.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly. And so this is when you look at that, what you’re really seeing is the end result of the public education system, the end result of the entertainment industry, the end result of the media. When all these people come together and tell a group, your pain is justified. That group is going to go out and commit a lot more violence. It’s just the way it is. You’re guaranteeing it. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, I think a couple of weeks ago we also talked about the FBI National Crime Report. 56% of the homicide victims in this country last year were also African-American. Yeah. So they’re actually killing African-Americans. The biggest threat to the life of a young African-American man in this country today is not a police officer. It’s another African-American man.
SPEAKER 18 :
What really angers me about this, Joe, and we’ll take a quick break, come right back, is the people who are causing the African-American community, especially African-American men, the people who are causing them to become more violent in this way. No, they’re doing it and they don’t care. OK, these people in the media, these people in public, in academia, these people in the entertainment industry who keep just piling on the African-American community, telling them, hey, your rage is justified. You should be enraged. You should be upset. You’ve been wronged. You’ve been wronged. Oh, my gosh, it’s systemic. Everything that’s being done to you. They know they’re creating a monster by doing that. And you do it with any group. OK, and they don’t care. They don’t care, and they know also that they’re unleashing these people most of all on their own community. Yep. And it’s terrible. Okay, let’s take a break. We’ll come back with Jersey Joe. Up next is Ridgeline Auto Brokers. When you’re looking at used cars, you want good selection and best inspections. Ridgeline is both, and you can find both locations at klzradio.com.
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 18 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, who is back tomorrow on the line right now. We’ve got Jersey Joe. Joe, what else you got?
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. I want to talk about recycling. You ever go into Starbucks and you get one of those cold drinks and they give it to you in a clear plastic cup with a straw on the top? And when you’re done, they’ve got a special bin where you put that clear plastic cup to be recycled? Okay. Well, CBS, they took 36 of those plastic. They went all over the country, like 12 different states, and they put little Apple AirPad trackers in these cups.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, they put trackers to see where they actually went.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. And Charlie has a clip of CBS telling you where those 36 cups wound up. Here we go.
SPEAKER 25 :
Ever wondered what Starbucks does with all the plastic cups people throw into their in-store recycling bins? Well, CBS News discovered that most of those cups actually never get recycled. So joining us now to explain is our national environmental correspondent, David Schechter. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good to be here again.
SPEAKER 25 :
All right. So tell us about, let’s start at the beginning. Tell us about why people think that if they get a plastic cup from Starbucks with their iced coffee and they finish it up and they toss it into the recycling bin, why it’s actually not getting recycled.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the recycling bins say, you know, it tells this customer actually to put it here. There’s a little blue bin and it says, please put your cup in here. And so you’re setting up the expectation to the customer that it’s going to be recycled. So what we did is we got trackers and we put them inside, like, A whole bunch of cups. 36 of these cups had like an apple tracker in it. We went around the country. You can see where, you know, 15 ended up in the landfill. 14 went to a waste transfer station, which is a place that doesn’t recycle. And then you have four of them that went to an incinerator where they would just burn trash. And four of them went to places called material recovery facilities where they would have the possibility of being recycled. So we’re kind of checking the Starbucks promise saying, hey, customer, we’re going to recycle these things if you put them in here. The reality of what we found is that that didn’t happen.
SPEAKER 14 :
So there you have it, a fraud. Only four out of 36 actually got recycled.
SPEAKER 18 :
That’s not a surprise at all. I mean, let’s face it, virtue signaling is so much easier than having virtue.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. And by the way, John Stossel did a whole thing where he followed in residential neighborhoods where they make people separate their trash, and they followed the special recycling trucks as they picked up the recycling trash, and they followed the trucks and they went right to the same landfill. Yeah. But people pay a premium for that. How much time we got left? We have about four minutes. Go. All right, I want to talk about, you know, we’ve had a couple of, in Germany we had the truck attack, New Orleans we had the guy in 60 seconds killed 15 people and wounded 35. I want to talk about, I’m going to tie this into this liberal thing about banning assault rifles. You’ve met with the phrase cognitive dissonance? Yes. It’s where people, you know, when they’re stressed out, well, we need to do something, anything. This whole thing about banning assault rifles, when you look at how easy it is to kill people, a dozen or more people in under a minute without using any type of gun at all. This thing about, well, we need to ban assault, this is an expression of cognitive dissonance. In other words, well, we need to do something because it makes us feel better, makes us feel safer. By the way, a guy in Nice, France a couple of years ago drove a, they have a big, their 4th of July is Bastille Day. He drove a stake-body truck down a crowded street full of people, killed 85 people in 60 seconds with a truck. A guy in the Bronx, New York, a couple years back set fire to a nightclub, killed 86 people with $2 worth of gasoline. So this thing about we need to ban assault weapons, I call it squeezing up… People who think you can stop evil and crazy people from killing dozens of other innocent victims simply by denying them access to a specific type of weapon, these are the same people who think you can make a balloon smaller by squeezing it in just one place. Right. I mean, if you can’t think of several different ways… to kill a dozen more people in under a minute without using a gun, then your IQ is probably not above room temperature because I don’t want to give anybody ideas, but I can think of half a dozen ways to kill a dozen people without using a gun.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, you could use a truck, you could use a car, you can use so many other things. And Joe, by the way, these are the exact same people who never look at the demographics who are doing the killing. They never look at the fact that, hey, gee, wait a minute. If we say if we see that certain demographics are doing far more killing, shouldn’t we look at our societal message to those demographics and change it? Yep. What are you doing to provoke this demographic to kill far more? Shouldn’t we look at that and change that? No. Let’s disarm the law abiding.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it’s a feel-good measure. By the way, here’s a little statistic. The deadliest school shooting in American history was carried out by a guy using two legally purchased pistols. He killed 31 people with a .22 pistol and a 9mm pistol, no assault rifle. So everybody out there says, oh, if we can just ban assault rifles, we’ll put an end to these school shootings. No, you won’t. And when that doesn’t work, what do you want to ban next? Because there’s no such thing… as an end to more, what do they call it, common sense gun controls? Because once you ban one, you’ll squeeze the balloon. They’ll turn to a different weapon and a different weapon. I think we need to ban assault trucks.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, I mean, look, the bottom line is these commons, all these limits on being able to buy a weapon are only obeyed by the law-abiding.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the law-abiding, right.
SPEAKER 18 :
They are only obeyed by the people who need the weapon to protect themselves from the people you’re not affecting with the law.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you’re a bad guy in Colorado and you want to get a high capacity magazine, Cheyenne, Wyoming is what? 90 minutes from Denver.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Or you’ll find another way to do it. Or guess what? You’ll use low capacity and just have a lot of magazines carrying more guns. If you want to look, if you are hell bent on killing a lot of people and not just protecting yourself, you will get the means to kill a lot of people.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. And again, if, if people who think, well, we’re going to, we’re going to solve this problem by banning certain types of weapons. It’s cognitive dissonance. So all they’re doing is trying to make themselves feel good. Because if they understood the data and reality, they would know that nothing they are proposing will stop an evil or crazy person from killing a dozen or more innocent victims in under a minute. Can’t be done.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, what we need to do is we need to have more cops, more FBI agents. We need to have harder targets at schools and everywhere else. We need to make it harder for these people to get messages that tell them to kill or that it’s okay to kill. And we need to have it harder for them to do the killing. Sound good, Joe?
SPEAKER 14 :
You’re right. Including faster, you know, faster saves lives. We need more. armed staff and teachers. We need more of that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. Joe, thank you so much. Folks, that’s going to do it for today. Hour number one replays next. And John is going to return tomorrow. Reason is coming back to Denver. Until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
