Join Mike and Mark as they delve into the public’s changing perception of Elon Musk. Once celebrated for his innovations in technology and electric vehicles, Musk now finds himself at the center of controversy due to his political alliances. Furthermore, the hosts uncover a chilling crime story involving an Infowars staff member, raising critical questions about media coverage bias and societal violence.
00:00:34 The M&M Experience with Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis
00:00:45 Jury Duty Experience and Selection Challenges
00:11:46 Discussion on Elon Musk and Public Backlash
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SPEAKER 05 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s M&M experience.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome back. We missed you yesterday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I’m glad to be back, although I’m a little, you know, I feel like I sort of dodged the proverbial bullet because, as you said, I got close to being picked. I’ve never gotten that far. You know, I’ve been called to jury duty when I lived in New York City like two or three times. And you just sit in a room all day and then they dismiss you because inevitably the trial is dismissed or they come to a settlement and they don’t need a jury. Well, this one, there were 60 of us. We got shuffled into courtroom number seven. and we all had to explain why we should or shouldn’t be on this jury. And you walk in. Now, first of all, you know me. You know True Crime Mike. The only time I’ve been inside a courtroom is an episode of Forensic Files. So I’m just fascinated by the whole thing. I’m like, ooh, there’s the judge. Ooh, there’s the defendant. And there was a youngish man in a white starched shirt sitting at a table with his defense attorney facing us, looking us all in the eye, which is a little scary. And I’ll tell you why in just a moment. On the other side is the chippy, cheery attorney for the prosecution. She’s standing there greeting us all. And they know where we’re all seated. They know us all by name. There were like 55 or 60 of us all in rows. And there was a grid where the judge, when he called you, he knew exactly who you were. And you were to stand and you were to explain what the hardship could be. This was during the voir dire process where they’re going through the jury selection system. And some of it was just kooky. Well, I don’t really want to be here. I deliver newspapers. And if I don’t deliver papers, I don’t make any money. And look, this is a real financial hardship for people.
SPEAKER 04 :
I totally understand.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, there are lots of people who, you know, our policy, Salem has a policy where apparently we get jury duty hours. And as an employee, we’re compensated. Well, not everybody has that luxury. You know, there are people that are entrepreneurs. There was a guy, look, I’m a truck driver. I don’t drive. I don’t make money. And the judge was really good. I forget his name. I think it was Esposito. But he was just warm and smart. He said he’d been doing it for 40 years. I mean, he was just a great guy. Anyway, I’m trying to come up with in my mind, because they say this could last several days. The young man was being brought up on cocaine and heroin distribution charges. And then what got interesting was the prosecutor read a list of the potential witnesses. Two of them were from the medical examiner’s office. He killed somebody. Well, somebody died. I mean, I think that may be the trial. I mean, I’m trying to speculate. And, in fact, I’m asking Roger P. Shulman, our resident newshound over here, to look up the case. Because I’ll bet they’re saying the prosecution is saying that he distributed drugs and somebody died. And that’s the that’s the nature of the trial. So and there were a lot of people. One woman started crying. She said, I lost my son to a drug overdose. I don’t think I can be objective. And so and she was dismissed. Well, I stand I’m thinking, what am I going to say? Because I’m a pretty smart guy. I know it’s my duty to be objective. But you know me. I mean, I happen to have Gallagher’s Heroes, the fallen officer fund, which is a pro-police foundation. I’ve spent hundreds of hours riding with police officers. I give cops the benefit of the doubt. So it’s my turn to stand up, and I’m thinking, I don’t want to weasel out of this, but I’m going to tell the truth. And I said, look, in part of my job, I have a foundation that supports police officers and their families. And I will tell you that I give police officers the benefit of the doubt. I know it’s my duty to be objective, but I’m not sure I can because I’m so pro-police. Of course you could. Okay. Well, wait a minute. Let me finish this. So that’s when the defense attorney, I see her immediately write down a note about me as I’m speaking. I’m thinking she said, that’s a hail to the no for this guy. That guy’s gone. We don’t need him. The last thing we need is a pro police. And I don’t… But it was like getting voted off the island, Mark, because then when you come back from the break, you all shuffle back in and everybody’s sitting on the benches and the judge goes row by row. Row one, Mr. Smith, Mrs. Jones, Mr. Gallagher, you are dismissed. We get up and we walk out. One woman literally said, yes, yes, yes. I couldn’t believe it. I mean, she was the lady who didn’t like cops very much.
SPEAKER 04 :
So Judge Jeff Probst voted you off the island and revealed the results.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was off the island.
SPEAKER 04 :
But let’s unpack for just a second because I’m glad you brought it up. It’s a fair thing to bring up because actually I would think the attorneys for both sides should be able to evaluate. whether your pro-police activism would make you more or less a fit for the jury. But you and I know, and everybody who’s ever listened to you knows, that there’s nothing that you’ve ever done for cops, and you’ve done so much, that would leave you unable to be objective. I mean, you and I are the pro-police, back-the-blue shows of record, but when something goes wrong, or if a cop misbehaves, or if there’s something that’s not right, we’re not going to muzzle ourselves because we’re pro-police. We’re going to speak up about it because we’re pro-police.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, like you said, that’s up for them to decide. That’s up to them. I’m not going to make that decision. Look, did I want to be there for a few days and miss my job and miss my work? Absolutely not. But I will tell you that I’m glad I said what I said because, look, I don’t think they’d ever put you or me on a jury. I don’t think Mark Davis would ever get selected to be on a jury.
SPEAKER 04 :
And this is funny because I always miss 735. It’s like missing a limb. How can I not talk to you? It’s a vital part of the show. And yet by not being here, the reason you were not here yesterday, you gave me probably half the show. And it was on stuff of people with their jury duty stories, got me to ruminating over whether I wanted to. You just said, I don’t want to be gone for three or four days. I don’t either. I don’t want to miss shows. I never want to miss shows, but I would love. I absolutely want to. And then you get into the notion of, okay, you’ve got a big, big mouthy talk show guy. Are we the automatic foreman or is there no way they make us foreman?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let me tell you something, though, Mark. I have always taken the position that we ought to have professional juries for this very reason.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, wait a minute. Now, let me finish, please. Let me finish my point. Horrible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Please let me get a sentence out. I’ve always believed there should be professional juries because of the financial hardship that it creates, because of the aggravation, because there are people that don’t know their left hand from their right hand. I mean, there were some people in that room that were dumb as a box of rocks. I’m not kidding you. I mean, there were women that stood up and the things they were babbling about. And the judge almost had to roll his eyes. Let me finish. Let me finish. So I’ve always leaned towards saying, well, everybody’s a professional. But wait a minute. There was something I felt sitting in that room, that sense of civic pride, that sense of duty and responsibility and realizing here’s 50 or 60 of us plucked from our daily lives to sit in judgment of a fellow American who is innocent until proven guilty, who’s presumed innocent. For the first time, Mark, I saw what you’ve always argued with me about, that you’re right, that the system works. It is a sense of civic responsibility, and there’s something magnificent about it. I really sat there and I realized, no, I’m wrong here. We don’t need professional juries. We need citizens who are willing to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I understand it because you’re right. There is a financial hardship. A lot of people are stupid. There’s an argument for professional jurors that can be made for about a minute. But then that’s not a jury of your peers anymore. That’s right. And the charm of it, the glory of it is.
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SPEAKER 04 :
pay them better? I mean, because here’s the thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh yeah. 15 a day. So we got $15 a day.
SPEAKER 04 :
So here’s the thing, because I totally understand somebody’s financial hardship. But can that be an excuse? Because if it is, all you got to do is go in there with some financial hardship, sob story. Sorry, not sob story. All you got to do is go, I couldn’t afford it. And what kind of juror does that give you if we omit everybody who kind of works day to day for a living? Give people $300, $400. Like we got money for that, I guess. I know we can’t afford anything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, no, we don’t. But on the other hand, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Financial hardship, while I totally understand it. I don’t know if that works as an excuse. What if the trial lasts a month?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, the judge was joking about the $15 a day. One lady said, look, I run a convenience store. We’re down five people. Everybody’s out. If I’m not there, we’ve got to close the store down. And the judge laughed. He said, you mean the $15 a day that we offer isn’t going to cover it? And he was a wonderful guy. I loved his judge. I was really impressed with him. But anyway, it was a great experience. I’m glad to share it. I’m glad I’m back, and I’m glad that I wasn’t there. But I’m also glad I changed my mind about professional juries because there was a great feeling about even spending the day there and seeing the process. All right, let’s dive in here. I’ve got to start with picking your brain. I’ve been wanting to talk to you about this for days. The unbridled rage, the seething contempt, the insane anger towards Elon Musk. It has to go beyond, look, he’s the scapegoat. It’s got to go beyond they found their boogeyman. They’ve got their boogeyman in Donald J. Trump. Right. Look, I saw some senator, I think it was Josh Hawley, say the left is so weird. Just a year or two ago, they’re driving around in electric vehicles.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re forcing us to buy electric cars. Now they’re setting fire to them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now they’re blowing up the Tesla dealerships. I asked the lady in St. Pete, Florida, do you know they get like 50 to 100 calls a day? threatening and horrible things, and we’re going to burn you down. They’re firebombing cyber trucks in Seattle. Why?
SPEAKER 04 :
Why him? Why him? Because, number one, it’s two things. Alliance with Trump will make you the evil enemy. If Trump is the evil enemy, then Trump’s allies are evil enemy adjacent. So you have that. And also, there are a lot of people who can catch a lot of grief from the left for siding with Trump. But when it’s somebody – it almost feels like a betrayal. Elon used to be cool for them. Liberals like social media. Liberals like space. Liberals like electric cars. They love electric cars. But now this guy who’s been emblematic of so many things they love is now over on the dark side, not just siding with Trump optically, but doing what is kryptonite for every liberal, making government smaller. Yeah. Whoa, so the reason they hate him with the fire of a thousand suns is the change is real.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you’re right. And the other part of it is it’s not all organic. I mean, it’s not all spontaneous. We got a whole lot of nefarious actors, Act Blue, Soros, all these big organizations that are funding these protests that are taking place. So a lot of it is just not even authentic. But I got to cover this with you. Have you followed the murder of the InfoWars guy?
SPEAKER 04 :
One of Alex Jones’ associates? What happened to him?
SPEAKER 03 :
One of his top writers. He was shot dead outside his home. And you know what scares me is you said what happened to him. Because if this had been somebody on our team or NBC or God forbid, we’d be talking about it. But it’s InfoWars, so they don’t even cover it. The last post this guy retweeted was how liberals have become so violent. That was his last retweet. He retweeted Elon Musk saying liberals have become violent, and he was shot dead outside his apartment in Austin a couple miles from the Infowars studios, and nobody’s covering this, Mark.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it should be covered as the crime that it is, and yet we have a little bit of a logical challenge here, and it goes like this. Do we instantly go to, well, Alex must be on to something and his staff needed to be killed, or was dude just in the wrong place at the wrong time?
SPEAKER 03 :
And it could be one or the other. They don’t have any suspects, apparently. They have nobody in custody. So it could, hey, you know, it could be random. It could be something that was a robbery gone awry. Or it could be that liberals have become so violent. I mean, would that surprise you? Would that shock you considering what? Look, we’re having a debate right now about a Hamas-loving non-citizen being deported. And the Democrats, and they’re absolutely in his corner. Democrats will always favor the foreign national over American citizens. If they were deporting Alex Jones, the left wouldn’t care. They wouldn’t mind that one bit. Holy moly, what a time to be alive. My gosh.
SPEAKER 04 :
And this is why you can’t miss one show, much less three or four.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and you know why I can’t miss the rest of the week before you go on one of your legendary vacations? It’s spring break already. You’ve got to take the month off. And I’m glad, by the way, Chris Kroc is going to fill in for you. What a great guy he is. So I’m excited about all your guests. But we’ve got to do another lunch with Mark and Mike because I’m in my food for the poor campaign.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can this be true? All right, let’s package this. Let’s talk about it some more tomorrow and maybe share it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can we tease it? Can we tease it today?
SPEAKER 04 :
In the following way. So we’ll talk about it in a little more detail tomorrow and share the actual methodology on Thursday. Okay? Sound good?
SPEAKER 03 :
Good. Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ron is back Thursday? Correct. And so here’s the deal. We had such a great time and raised a bunch of money for Food for the Poor by gathering a big table full of people together. at a dfw area restaurant and my food for the poor campaign which is now done was enormously successful as a result so what’s next now mike’s food for the poor campaign and so mike put two and two together and said how about if i fly to dfw and we do it again so that’s what i mean mark we had and we had so much fun this was such a great group and there’s a rumor there’s even a couple that wants to do it again which would be extraordinary you are correct about that
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, really? How cool. I mean, so, and unlike Mark, I’ll get a bigger table. I mean, I’ll just get a bigger table.
SPEAKER 04 :
King Arthur’s Knights of the, well, I was going to say it has to be a round table.
SPEAKER 03 :
A round table, and you’ll be on one side, I’ll be on the other. Is the thing going to be the size of a Saturn V booster base? It’s going to be the biggest round table you’ve ever seen, but we’re going to get it all done. Cost me the cocktail. Look, now, we’ll have so much fun. Thank you for letting me do this on your show. I can’t wait. We’ll roll out the details Thursday. All right, love you. Great to be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mike Gallagher, he’s back. He’s ready. 10 o’clock soon as we’re done on 660 AM The Answer.
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