In this enlightening episode of Ready Radio, hosts John Rush and Bill Anderson unravel the complexities surrounding the emotional and practical aspects of organization, inheritance, and preparedness. Delving into the delicate topic of sorting through personal possessions, the discussion highlights the sentimental value tied to objects, potential family conflicts, and the necessity of estate planning. The hosts offer real-life advice, aiming to alleviate the burden on heirs and ensure a smoother transition for families dealing with loss.
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Now, here’s your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it is Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening today. We appreciate it very much. Live program today on November the 21st. Bill Anderson with me as well. Bill, welcome. How are you today, sir? I am doing well. A little chilly today, huh, John? A little chillier. So, yeah, it’s a reminder that, you know what, winter is approaching. Yes, it is, whether we like it or not. That’s right, whether we like it or not. So I had a special request this week to discuss something that we’ve covered in the past. But, you know, I talk to people, Bill, quite often, especially some of my business clients where I coach, because even this particular topic affects, you know, their life. And, in fact, it affects most people’s lives, whether you realize it or not. And that is organization of stuff. And I don’t know how to really – title this. It’s just how to stay more organized. Now, I also am going to get into some details of some of you are going to go through things for an inheritance purposes. In other words, maybe you’ve inherited things from your folks, your grandparents, whatever the case may be, Bill. Bottom line, there’s lots of things that go on, and we’re going to cover several things. And you know, you being, you know, with your background and what you’ve done, you’ll be a big help because a lot of this involves emotions where maybe they shouldn’t.
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Right. Yeah. And it’s tough because you get emotionally attached to things, um, you know, especially if you’ve worked hard for them or something that wasn’t easily obtained and maybe it took, you know, a little time or effort or money or whatever it may be to acquire that. And then you get it and it’s not so easy to let go. And then the other problem that I find, is, you know, you think you have time to go back and buy something. It’s like there’s several things that we’ve seen in the past, and it’s like, oh yeah, we should go back. And if you’re a member of Costco, this is the worst. You see it at Costco, you go back a week later, and it’s gone.
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And they don’t have it no more.
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And so, It can really put you into a panic buying mode because you feel like, well, if I don’t get this now, I’m going to lose my opportunity. And then with the mindset of, hey, I better buy two, depending on the price, obviously. I better buy two because if I lose this, I’m not going to have another one. There’s two extremes, I think, in the preparedness world, John. I think you have those that pride themselves on what we would call minimalists. And they have very minimal things and they, they, you know, run very lean if you will. And then you have the other people that, you know, buy every gadget that comes out and, you know, they’re just constantly getting new stuff. And then, you know, we lie. We’re somewhere in the middle there. Right. But, yeah, you can easily acquire stuff, you know. You may never use. That you may never need.
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And it’s not to, you know, I’m not for everybody listening, please. I get it. This is Ready Radio. This is the show to help you with the, you know, quote, unquote, what ifs of life. And we hope. that in a lot of cases, Bill, some of the things we talk about will never get used. On the same token, there’s a lot of things we talk about that have to do with just everyday life, and you are going to use some of these things, and so you need to be thinking through this. Now, where I want to start today, and for a lot of you listening, again, I’ve done some of this in the past, but Charlie and I were talking earlier in the week, and even he said, hey, it might be a time for you to readdress some of the things that we’ve covered in the past when it comes to especially, Bill – Not so much on the preparedness thing, although it can apply to that, but more so like, you know, for the last – oh, gosh, I’m finally getting down to the very end. Both my folks have passed away, but through that whole process, you know, just going through lots and lots and lots of stuff and still to this day have – you know, family pictures and albums and things like that, that, you know, wife and I and the rest of the family still have to go through. I mean, there’s just things there that you’re constantly going to be working on. And I don’t know that some of that really ever fully ends. But for the most part, I’ve, you know, I’ve got most everything. accomplished although it has been a monumental task and i think if i have any advice for anybody out there that is still alive and cognizant go through your own stuff if you have the ability because otherwise you’re leaving that burden to your heirs
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Yeah, you’re leaving a big mess behind for sure, and it’s one of the greatest things we can do for those that we do leave behind, not only the physical stuff, but having those trusts or their wills in place so that they don’t have to be burdened with that. They’re already going to be burdened with the loss of you, and now they’re being burdened with having to take care of all your, quote, business.
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Right. And I’ll go one step further. That’s really important. And we’ve got Michael Bailey who’s associated with us, and he’s really big, of course, on the estate planning end of things. And, yes, I would encourage all of you to make sure you get that dialed in. But I’m going to add one more layer to that, Bill, and that is for a lot of you listening. And these are conversations that families should have, and they’re not easy conversations. And because sometimes, Bill, feelings get hurt. And here’s my point on this. When you have a conversation like this, first thing you need to do is get everybody sat down. And kind of open the conversation with, listen, you know, maybe your mom and dad or grandma, grandpa or whatever the case may be. But listen, you know what? We know we’re getting up there in years. We know that, you know, we can really see that, you know, not saying the end is near, but, you know, we’re getting to the point where, A, we don’t need the amount of stuff that we have. And, B, we don’t want this to be a burden for all of you. And, you know, this could be, Bill, anywhere from, you know, one person to, you know, 15 or 20, depending upon how big your family is. And my point is to sit down, have a conversation, and make sure everybody’s openly honest in saying, listen, guys, you know, there’s items here, items in the home, garage, shop, whatever it is. And we really need to know how much of this stuff do you really want? Because if nobody wants this stuff, we’re going to start disposing of things now. And that’s a hard conversation because nobody wants to start that off.
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Yeah, nobody wants to think about that. You know, and also, too, that also can spark some emotions as well. Exactly. You know, if you have a particular clock or something, let’s just say, and you say, hey, okay, who wants the clock? And now you’ve got an argument of who wants it and who doesn’t want it. And, you know, you’re not even gone yet. You’re still there. We have a common friend that is dealing with that situation right now, and they’re trying to divvy up. You know, the parents’ trust and her will and stuff, and she’s not even gone yet. And they’re trying to pull money out now and give everybody their share now. And it’s like, well, wait a minute. You know, she’s still got to live.
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Right, can’t do it that way yet. And that’s where, and for a lot of you listening, and these are, again, these are not… Trust me, Bill, of anybody that’s probably out there right now that people are listening to, trust me, been there, done that. These are not easy conversations to have. And I’ll just be straight up honest. I tried having some of these conversations with my father when he was still cognizant before his Alzheimer’s really set in. And the fact of the matter is, Bill, he didn’t want to have anything to do with having that type of a conversation, meaning that as he got further along and got further down the road with his memory loss and so on, it just became harder and harder for those of us that are now trying to pick up the pieces and figure out what do we do with X, Y, and Z. It would have been much easier to have done that when he was cognizant, but he was not going to do that.
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Yeah, and it is a hard conversation, John, because let’s just say that your father had worked all his life for that stuff. And he worked really hard for some of it. And you’re exactly right. By the way, you’re 100% correct. And now he’s sitting there going, you guys are devaluing me or you’re not valuing what I have built for my life. You’re basically, in essence, saying everything I worked for is garbage, is rubbish. Right. That’s right. That’s a hard feeling.
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It really is. No, and that’s where these are really delicate conversations that, frankly, it’s evident, Bill, I didn’t do very well. I’ll be the first to take blame and admit that I didn’t do very well at having those conversations at that time because it did come across the way you just said. And I tried my best to, you know, that’s not the case. It’s just a matter of… You know, what we as kids are going to want, what we want to do is different than what you want. It’s not a matter of devaluing or saying anything is not any good any longer. It’s just simply the fact that, you know, with each generation, there are things that some generations want and some don’t. Let me give a great example for some of you listening. And this is an easy example. China. So a lot of us, myself included, growing up, China being passed down from one generation to another, Bill, was kind of a big deal. I still have some China from my grandmother on my dad’s side that came out of one of the foreign countries, I think Czechoslovakia or someplace like that, that she had acquired. It was very dear to her, and it got passed down, and I still have it. I’m here to tell you, Bill, my kids are not going to want that stuff anymore. At all. There is no sentimental value to them in that any way, shape, or form. And the thrift stores now are starting to be overrun with that type of china.
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Yeah, it is kind of sad to begin with, because, you know, like I said, you do treasure that stuff. And, you know, things were much more difficult to come by, you know.
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And these were things that she probably acquired during the Depression, meaning it was very near and dear to her because you wouldn’t normally have those items at that time. But they did. And that’s where. you know, some of that history, you know, comes into play. But the reality is, I mean, you still got to come back to what, you know, that old thing called reality, which is what’s the actual real value to someone other than you? And if the answer is not much, well, no offense, why are you hanging on to it?
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Yeah, yeah. And, you know, if we’re at that stage, and again, that’s a hard conversation because we always value things differently. Yes. You know, your dad valued things differently than you do. Correct. He’s looking at that um, old craftsman wrench or whatever going, Hey, this is, this is really good stuff here. And you’re like, I’ve got 10 of those, you know, and minor snap on.
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So that one’s actually going in the, you know, we’re going to give that away pile.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I’m being very honest. That’s a great example, by the way, because of my whole career and the things that I did and actually, you know, working on cars and owning shops and so on. Yeah, in my case, I had and still have better tools in that regard than in a lot of cases what he had, meaning that some of that stuff, I mean, you can only have so many 916s wrenches, Bill.
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Yeah, when my dad passed away, there were three drawers of screwdrivers because one of the things that he would do later in his life, he’d go to these auctions. He’d just buy, buy, buy, buy, buy.
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My dad, by the way, my dad very similar, did similar things to that and ended up, again, in some cases, very similar situation to what you’re talking about, whereby it’s like, wait a minute, I can see hanging on to maybe one or two of these, but I don’t need 10. Right, right. Exactly. Literally. Well, I’ll give you another example. And I’ve talked about this on my Saturday morning program, but and I’m still going through this. So some of you that have asked to get together with me on some of these things, I will as soon as I’m done. That’s my winter project. But Bill, I’ve taken every corded tool and put that into one of the big gray totes. And I now I’ve almost filled up a second tote with corded tools because I don’t use them anymore.
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Yeah, don’t use them no more. And I’m not going to. Honestly, it’s really tough. It’s just taking up space, right? It’s called clutter. That’s right. And clutter causes stress. I mean, unfortunately, I’d rather take that to the scrapyard and get whatever I’m going to get for it and then take that money and turn it into something that I can use a little bit more these days. But, you know, it’s tough. I mean, you always, especially in the listeners of this station, John, because You know, well, what if? What if? What if the grid goes down? What if this?
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Well, no offense. A corded tool isn’t going to be any different than a cordless tool at that point because if you’re really going to get down to it, Bill, you need regular hand tools. I mean, like the old drills with the crank is what you would really need because you’re not powering up that. In fact, you’ve got a better chance of trying to probably take a solar charger and charge up some of your existing batteries as to run a corded tool.
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Yeah, they run a lot more efficient. Plus, you’ve got to stretch a cord, or you’ve got to take your generator or whatever to the spot with a corded tool, whereas the cordless, you just throw the battery in and go wherever you want to go.
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That’s right. But to go along the line of the corded tools, because I think this is where a lot of people struggle, and I’ve had to mentally say, okay… I can’t look at this stuff this way. I really have to look at it for what it is. So, for example, I can remember growing up, and I was one of these kids that tinkered around with everything in the garage from a very, very, very early age. And I found the other day going through all the stuff, an old orange Black & Decker drill that I know I probably tinkered around with, Bill, when I was probably 8, 9, 10 years of age. In other words, that’s how long my dad had owned that. So this thing’s probably 60-plus years old. And I’m looking at it. Yeah, there’s some memories with it and some sentimental value, I guess you could say. But in my world, not enough to keep it.
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Yeah, especially when you want to live light. So, you know, we should adopt the philosophy of this. I’m ready to go at a moment’s notice, John. And that’s really tough for people to grasp because, you know, hey, I may need to get up and go because of a job change or whatever. And how difficult I look at my life and I go, man, I hope I never have to move because I’m not ready. Right. I’ve got too much stuff. So that’s a red flag says, hey, you better address this. You better take care of this. Live that kind of nomad life, if you will, and just be like, hey, I can go with as little resistance as possible with what I need to create in my life. And we may not be able to convey that to our parents or to our other family members or things like that. You know, if you adopt that mentality, then maybe you won’t pass that mess on, you know, to someone.
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I’ve now made it a kind of a mantra of my own life after going through all of this with my folks. And I’m not trying to throw my folks under the bus at all. Loved them both dearly. And I understand where the. the sentimental value and things come from, Bill. But I am vowing that I’m not going to pass that on to, you know, my kids. And they’ll already have enough stuff to go through as it is, but I’m not going to add to that by having extra things, you know, i.e. some of the things we just got done talking about. And I still have another full winter of, you know, working on the weekends to go through stuff because it’s just – As you know, Bill, I think this stuff has babies. I mean, you acquire one, and then all of a sudden there’s two, and now there’s four. And I’m not exaggerating in what I say. This stuff comes out of the woodwork.
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Yeah, and there’s another problem that if you are so chaotic and not organized, you forget you have that tool or you lose that tool in the corner or whatever. So what do you do? You run down and buy another one. And then all of a sudden, you cut three or four just because you couldn’t find it. I get so frustrated sometimes because I go down to do a simple task. A simple task of, I don’t know, hanging a door. Let’s just say I’m going to hang a door. And it’s like, okay, where did I put those hinges? Oh, my gosh, where did I put my jig to router out the door frame? Well, where did I put it? And before you know it, half the day is gone. Just looking for stuff.
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Yeah, it’s funny. In light of this, I watched a video of a guy that I follow. I can’t remember what he calls himself. The Wrangler Prepper or something along those lines. Anyways, he was doing a little video on YouTube. Yeah, I think that’s him. Yeah, that’s him. And so I was watching a little video last night of him talking about how, you know, really have everything in its place. So, you know, a place for everything, everything in its place, because he was talking about the very thing that you were mentioning, not just in the preparedness end of things, but just when you go to do something and everything is all in its place, look how much faster and easier said project goes because you’re not spending half your day hunting for stuff.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you know, one thing I would say too, we, we, we try to make a division here, John, between our, our preps, if you will, our readiness, our survival stuff, all this, you know, all these gadgets, all this, you know, extra food, extra water, whatever it may be. And I would say, Hey, stop thinking that way and start to just develop lifestyle. So my lifestyle is going to be designed around this. And so those things that I have stored are going to play a part in my everyday life. Meaning if I have a food pantry, right, I’m eating out of that. That is what I’m going to call my grocery store. I’m going to shop from my own store. And that forces me to make that, you know, to have that area of my life now participate. Right. And it’s not something that I forget about. I mean, I’ve got I can go back to Iowa where my family’s at. And I can go down into the basement and go into the room, and I’ll probably find canned fruit from 1980-something. I guarantee you I will. And they’ve got seven freezers, and you open up those freezers, and there’s stuff in there from 10, 20 years ago. And it’s like, this isn’t preparedness. This is not it, right? You should be rotating through those things. Move that stuff forward. So take these items. and put them to where they can play a role in your lifestyle, in your lifestyle design, in your everyday life, John. That’ll help you.
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All right, we’ll come back here in a moment. Again, the website, ready-radio.com. Bill’s site, if you want to talk to Bill directly, prep2protect.com. co.com is the website we’re going to come right back if there’s things you want to add by the way send me a text message 307-282-22 if you’ve got a question you can call in as well 303-477-5600 and i would also add this we won’t be here of course next week is day after thanksgiving we will not be here that day everybody’s taking you know time off for the holiday So if there’s something that you really want to talk about, something on your mind, be sure to call us today, and we’ll get that taken care of. We’ll be right back. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we are back, Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Bill Anderson, with me today. Bill, one thing that I would suggest that folks do, too, and this is where, you know, I had to do some of this with all of the things that I’ve been through over the past, you know, year and a half or so, almost two years now, and that is, depending upon the amount of stuff you have, and honestly, maybe I’m not saying that right, probably doesn’t matter how much stuff you have, mapping out where you’re going to put certain things back to your point a moment ago you know where are certain things going to be and you know making sure that everything’s in its place as we just mentioned a moment ago i think folks before they even start organizing you know get a sheet of grid paper if you have to and start mapping out you know what does your attic look like what’s your crawl space look like? What’s your garage look like? What’s your basement look like? I mean, where are you storing the things that we’re talking about, including some folks that have, you know, shops and tools and so on, you know, map that out. So, you know, you’re going to put stuff where it’s supposed to go versus just having a free for all.
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One of the things that I sent you, I liked the very first point of it. And it said that everything has a home.
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Yeah.
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And that’s really, really good. And then it went on to say, Now you take those homes and you put them in different zones according to use. One thing that is kind of aggravating is kitchen appliances. If you don’t have a very big kitchen or a big pantry or whatever, we often have to store some of our kitchen appliances out in a a garage shelf you know because we just simply have used up all the kitchen appliance room and now it’s so inconvenient to go out to the garage maybe the car is too close to the door and you got to go out there and move the car and then open the door to get the kitchen aid that you use you know a handful of times a year and at that point you know when you start thinking about that It becomes, I’ll just do something else. Right. Good point. You get frustrated. Yeah, because of the slight inconvenience of it. Or you forget where it’s at and you’re calling your wife going, hey, where’s the kitchen? And you can’t find it. And so having zones that are dedicated to that space at least will help you. And it’s like, okay, all the appliances or all the whatever, cookbooks, whatever, go here. And at least you know, then that, you know, it’s all located in one, it’s not scattered all throughout the house or whatever. And then, you know, how convenient is that? And you need to base that on how often you use it. So we have a basket on our, on our. kitchen counter there and it’s kind of my, I call it my staging station, but you know, I come home and I put all the stuff out of my pockets into that basket. And then when I leave for the day, the things in the basket go into my pockets and I go out the door. If one of those things, you know, for whatever reason finds its way somewhere else other than the basket, well, guess what happens the next day? I go out of the house without it. And now whether it’s my flashlight or my, you know, my pocket knife or whatever it is, it’s like keys are kind of hard cause you don’t get very far ultimately know that you’ve missed those, but you know, you get down there and you’re like, Oh, and you don’t even think that, but why? Because we’re such creatures of patterns and routines, you know, um, I often tell people, home is in the routine, right? And for those who travel all the time, that’s their routine. And then when they actually come, quote, home, they don’t feel at home because they’re out of their routine. And so create a routine, create these labeling systems, create these zones, as you were talking about, and then start there, right? And start staging things there. And then, you know, John, as I get older and stuff, I’ll be the first to admit, I’m becoming a little bit more forgetful. And it’s like, I don’t remember what’s in that box. Yeah, I mean, there’s a whole conversation on labels because if someone breaks into your house, then they can read the labels. Yeah, but you know what?
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Who cares?
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I’m more likely to… to, to need that label more than what if it breaks into my house, we’ve got other problems. So, you know, maybe throwing a label on there and going, Oh, Hey, here’s where this is. Here’s where that is. And, and, you know, To your point, come up with those areas that make sense, right?
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It’s not easy, folks, either, to do all of this because some of you have more space than others. Some are more limited on space. You’ve got to get really creative with the spaces that you have. Now, one thing I will say, Bill, that’s changed vastly and it continues to change is – which is way different even than when I was a kid, the amount of items now available to help you stay more organized is way what it used to be. My only recommendation on that is don’t overthink it. In other words, you can get so into what organizational tools am I going to use to do X, Y, Z, to your point earlier, well, then you’re so busy doing that you never organize anything. So, you know, there’s a happy medium between, all right, we’re going to have an organizational system here, but don’t overthink it because if you do, well, now you’ll never get it done, Bill.
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Right, right. There is an extreme to that, and it’s got to be practical, too. I mean, my wife, she loves organization. She loves her labels. When the kids were, like, two- and three-year-olds, she labeled all the boxes as if they could read this. Right. It was a joke we had with them back then. It’s like, oh, I labeled it crayons. They know that this is where the crayons are. There you go. They can’t read. They have no idea. That’s hilarious. But at any rate, she would often get so frustrated with me. Because I wouldn’t follow her system and I wouldn’t follow her system because I would get frustrated with her going, this is just not practical. You know, I want to come in the kitchen and I want to hit the button on the Keurig. I don’t want to go into the laundry room, pull the Keurig out of the shelf, plug it in, fill up the water. I don’t want to do that. I want to hit the button and go. So there’s a fine line there, John, between becoming too extreme and overzealous with that versus, hey, we’ve got to be practical and we’ve still got to live here. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s talk for a moment, because we talked about this briefly, but I want to go back to that, especially you being in your realm as a pastor and so on. Let’s talk about the emotional sides of this, because I know for a lot of folks, I’ve got a couple of different clients where they’re going through some of the same things that I went did and trying to determine, you know, what do you keep? What do you get rid of? You know, some things, you know, maybe have not necessarily sentimental value, but in some people’s eyes, they remember or think, well, you know, so-and-so thought a lot of X. Okay, well… My answer, of course, and I’m a little cold sometimes, is, well, so-and-so’s not here, so does it really matter? But I know that’s not really the answer, Bill, and that’s why you’re here and not me, because we probably need a little bit better advice on, you know, how do you handle the disposal of certain things whereby you don’t have any ties to it, you’re not even emotionally tied to it, but your feelings are the other person is, but the other person’s dead and gone.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it’s all in how you address the conversation. because ultimately it can run into self-discovery or it can run into debate. And when we approach it and go, hey, the person’s not here no more. You don’t need this item. This item isn’t in this, you know, the person’s not in this item.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but that was a sentimental thing for so-and-so and they wouldn’t want me getting rid of it. I mean, that’s because, by the way, that’s some of what I hear.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, how do you know they wouldn’t want you to get rid of it? They’re not here to voice that opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I’m with you, Bill, but I’m just telling you that there are people that, and I’m sure there’s some folks even listening to me right now, that can fully understand what I’m saying because in their mind, you know, grandpa, grandma, mom, dad, whoever, you know, these were sentimental things to them. They may not be to me, but I can’t really, in some cases, that’s probably a throwaway item even, Bill. I can’t bear myself to throw that away. item away, so in turn you just hang on to it? I mean, in some cases, I’ve got some folks I know where a decade plus they’re hanging on to it.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what I just did to you, John, is I put you in a debate mode. That’s what I was trying to do. versus let’s have a discovery mode. Let’s talk about, hey, okay, so now let’s go back to that same conversation. And I say, hey, this piece means a lot. Tell me a little bit about it. Why does this piece mean so much to you? And that’s to let them go, right? Why does this piece mean so much to your parents or to whoever it is? Okay, why do you think that your parents would want you to have this? Do you think that they would… What’s the point in all this? You see, I’m not debating this. We’re discovering this. And then I can start to lead the conversation and go, well, that’s a really good memory, isn’t it? Do you think you really need this piece to remember that? You just did it on your own. You see, that’s really what you take away from your parents is, is the memories and the times you have with them. And there’s more value than that in this piece. You see how I didn’t run you into fate. So I did that on purpose.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, it’s perfect. And I think sometimes my answer is back, and you’re much more eloquent than I am in this, because sometimes my answer back is, well, if you can’t throw it away, find somebody else that can. Because at the end of the day, you’re not going to miss it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but you haven’t convinced them of that yet. And not only that, you’re making a hard cutoff. I know. You’re saying you’re not going to miss them. And they’re like, yes, I am. So he goes back to the approach that I was talking about.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. That’s why you’re having this conversation and I’m not because I’m pretty cut and dried on stuff. I was like, yeah, that’s a piece of junk. Throw it away.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, right. But now here’s the interesting thing about this. We can do this to ourselves, John. We can have a self-conversation. I’m holding on to an old Black & Decker drill going, man, the memories I had with my dad with this and the memories I had when I was a kid thinking around with this. And then, okay, so is the memories really in the drill or is the memories… you know, in you through those experiences.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, I would add one more thing to that. Let’s say that this is maybe the wrong way to look at it, but you tell me if it is or isn’t. If it’s really that important, number one, you’re probably not going to use that drill because in this particular case, it was a piece of junk then and it’s still a piece of junk. It never has changed from being a piece of junk. The chuck was awful. Anyways, long story short, not a very good drill, but… If it’s the memory side of it, then you know what you could do? Cut the cord off, build a shadow box, put that thing in there, hang it up somewhere in your office, your house, your shop, your barn, whatever you think you need to do to make that memory stick. Okay, knock your socks off. Just remember that your kids are probably going to toss it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And it doesn’t matter. Right. Because when you’re honestly, when you’re gone, you’re not thinking about, well, I wonder what John’s doing with that. You’re not thinking about that at all. No, you know, no matter where, if you, if you don’t believe in creation and you don’t believe there’s a God, then you’re, you just went back to the earth. you’re not thinking nothing, you know? And then if you are a Christian and you believe you’re in heaven, well, the Bible tells us, hey, we’re not going to live in heaven with regret or tears or anything like that. You’re going to be focused on other stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s exactly right. Yeah, bottom line, there’s no effect there.
SPEAKER 09 :
So let’s say you want to keep it. Let’s say there’s nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. And so that’s the route I would go. Okay, great. Then we want to hang this up. So what are you going to do with it? Yeah, good point. I’m going to put it back in this box and put it on the shelf. Wow. That’s a dumb answer. I thought that really meant a lot to you. Right. I thought that really meant a lot to you. So I’m just going to put it in this box here. Why don’t you do this? Why don’t you go through and make a shadow box and put it up? And then they might go, that sounds like a lot of work.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know what? Let’s just throw it away.
SPEAKER 06 :
What you’re doing there, to your point earlier, is you’re now getting that dialogue to where they can work through that and decide, is this something I really, is it really that sentimental or am I just making it that way?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And if it is that sentimental, then why did I find this coiled up? thrown in the corner of your garage with 10 things on top of it. Really, that’s sentimental to you. Why do we find it over there? Let’s make a showpiece. Let’s put it in your living room. Let’s put it on your shop. Let’s do this, do this, do this, do this. And then all of a sudden, they’ll be like… Yeah, I guess it’s really not that important to me. You’re right. The memory’s in me, not in that tool. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Great point. And again, we’re trying to get everybody to recognize, those of you that are listening, and this show most likely will replay over the Thanksgiving weekend. So if you’re listening to us over the weekend, thank you. And the reason why I wanted to replay this even on that day, Bill, is… There’ll be a lot of folks around, friends and family, and some of these discussions that we’re talking about right now may very well come up, and hopefully we’re guiding some folks through some of those conversations so that we can make those easier rather than harder. Because trust me, from the voice of experience, have the conversation the best you can to avoid some of what – in other words, avoid what you can because nothing worse – be able to have to spend hour after hour after hour after hour going through things that you end up throwing away anyways.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and what you can do, too, there’s two things you can do. One is you can offer, say, hey, let me come over and let’s go through these stuff together. Let’s have a good time of it. Let’s remember the things of the past as we go through this box. And then you can have a couple boxes there and go, okay, do we want to keep this or do we want to throw it away or do we want to find a place for it or maybe Cousin Jesse wants it, I don’t know, but you have those conversations and you go over there and you’re like, Hey, let’s spend the Saturday going through your garage or going through this box. And now what are you doing? What are you doing here? Because here’s what’s important. We’re so worried about what happens after they leave versus being focused on spending time with them while they’re still here. You know, let’s not lose that. Let’s make that the most important thing. Let’s not go down over there and get into a debate about what they’re going to do with their stuff after they leave. Let’s remember, hey, time is short. Let’s go spend some time with them now. And if they’re not willing to get off the X on this thing, okay, I’ll deal with it later. But you know what? I’m not going to have you here forever. So let’s just…
SPEAKER 06 :
talk and drink some lemonade or something and not worry about it if you can’t do that right and by the way i like your idea of getting and we did a little bit of this where you get folks together and hey let’s go through some of these you know picture albums or this that and the other you know whatever it happens to be let’s all get together and decide you know who wants to have what and you know we’ll make it a fun time and so on and of course you know kind of a trip down memory lane at the same time but you know make make a quote-unquote event out of that bill and by the way in doing so you’re not doing all the work when you do that
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. And you’re making a good memory because you’re all sitting around. Maybe you see a picture of Anne Effa there and you’re like, oh, man, remember when Anne Effa did this and she lost her teeth? Oh, everybody’s laughing about it. I mean, you’re turning this into a positive time that you’ll never get back, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
And the biggest key I want folks to really think about is – and I guess I’m different, Bill. I’m one of those where I don’t hang on to too much too tightly. Maybe that’s the business side of me over all these years where if you want to buy it and it’s the right price, you can have it because I don’t need it that badly. I mean, money talks, and if you want to own anything I own, you are – Outside of wife, kids, and so on, you are more than welcome to own anything I own, including the roof that’s over my head. If you can pay the right price, I’m moving. At the end of the day, Bill, I don’t get sentimental over too many things. I know I’m unique. I know most people aren’t that way. I’m a little bit different, and there’s not too many things that I hang on to because I don’t look at things that way. But that’s what I want people to look at is it’s just— stuff. I don’t know any other way to say it, Bill. It’s just stuff. And stuff is just stuff. Stuff can be replaced, by the way. Maybe for me, even losing a home and having a bunch of stuff burn up and realizing that you’re never getting that stuff back ever again. And in the case of that situation for me, I lost some very sentimental things. My first fishing rod when I was a kid, things like that that You know, at the end of the day, am I still okay, Bill? Yeah, I’m still okay. It was just stuff. I still have the memories. I still have the memories of fishing with my dad and doing all those things and so on. No, I don’t have the physical item. And I think for me, having some of that happen made me realize that it is just stuff, Bill.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it is. You know, nothing wrong with having some seminal things. But maybe do this. Maybe have a handful of them. Don’t have a base of them. Oh, good one. Good point.
SPEAKER 06 :
And again, for those of you listening, everybody’s different. But, Bill, maybe a good starting point for folks is, okay, limit yourself to 10 of those items. Now, some of you might say, well, God, 10’s not near enough. Gosh, I need way more than that. Okay, well, pick a number. But do you need 100 of items? Do you need 50? Do you need 10? Do you need 5? I mean, what’s that magic number? And then limit yourself to that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Yeah. And it’s going to be different for everybody. I mean, to be honest with you, I look at my life and I go, man, I wish I would have had some of my dad’s stuff. I wish I would have had some of my grandpa’s stuff. So, you know, the pendulum can swing the other way as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I agree. I mean, I, you know, of course, lost my brother, you know, years ago. And just the way things worked out, and I don’t know it was anybody’s fault. It’s just the way things turned out. I don’t have a single thing from my brother. Not one item, Bill. And do I wish I had some things from him? Yeah, but… I still have all the memories of my brother and I and the things that we did and so on. Do I need the stuff to remember him? No, I don’t.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, yeah. And it causes so many divisions in families, John. You hear it over and over and over again of how everybody’s getting along great, and then somebody dies, and now nobody’s talked for years because they couldn’t decide what to do with the grandfather clock. That’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s ridiculous. It really is. All right.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’ll take our second break. We’ll be right back, guys. Again, prep2protectco.com. That’s Bill’s website. Ours is ready-radio.com. We’ll be right back. By the way, this is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Bill Anderson with me today. Bill, Charlie just gave us a great idea, which, man, I’m going to incorporate this. And I do a little bit of this already, probably not in the direct manner that Charlie’s mom used to do. But Charlie’s mom at one time, Charlie said, when people would come over for the holidays or whatever, and there were certain things that she no longer wanted and wanted to give away, she would lay those things out in a spare bedroom. And just tell people, hey, no fighting, but if there’s something you want, feel free to take whatever. And whatever’s left over, we’re donating. It’s going to go away. We’re not keeping it. So, by the way, very proactive approach, which I think a lot of us could take that same approach. The other thing that she did, which this is really good. In fact, I don’t have a lot of printed pictures because, you know, we’ve lived in the digital age now for so long, Bill. But what his mom did was took all of the pictures that – you know, were meant to go to somebody or somebody was in it and it wasn’t just a landscape picture or whatever, wrote on the back who was in it and what date it was. And any of you that are out there that have that ability to do that for your heirs, I would strongly recommend you do that because I can tell you firsthand from going through a lot of pictures where I haven’t the foggiest idea, Bill, who’s in these pictures, that would really help.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that’s a great idea. And you’re right. I mean, we’ve got boxes and boxes everywhere. of pictures you know and then my mom and you know my wife’s mom give us all their boxes of pictures and it’s like you know and then How are we going to have time to go through all this? It becomes one of those things, well, someday I’m going to get to that. Well, the reality is we’ll probably never get to that, and our kids are going to get boxes of photos too at that point of our lives. But it’s so hard. And now we’re taking digital photos, and how do you organize and keep those? And if you lose your phone or where does it go? Does everybody have access to it? It’s just so difficult. One of the things we did one Christmas was we bought everybody digital photo frames and and we all can link to each other’s frames. Um, and I don’t know where it’s like eight of us in, in the, in the group there. And somebody takes a picture of, we just got back from another trip and you know, we can upload a picture of that trip and guess what? It’s on everybody’s frame, you know, and you know, it’s a rotation of pictures and you don’t see all of them, but you know, when it happens to catch your eye, you’re like, Oh yeah, I remember that. You know, that’s something you can do with it as well. But I don’t know. It’s a tough question because you know, it’s sentimental and, And not only that, but in the world of preparedness and readiness, there’s always that, well, I might need that someday. And I don’t know about everybody else, but for me, it always just seems to work out that way that. The moment I get rid of something, the next day I need it. And I’m like, are you kidding me? I should have gotten rid of that. So I struggle with that because it’s like, I might need that someday. I might need that. And it’s kind of how my dad was too. And I think, you know, he came off of parents that lived through the depression and they kept everything. I can go into my parents’ house now and go down to the basement and they kept They kept every pickle jar, every pickle lid, and every milk jug because that was their mindset. And there might be a day, John, where we go back into that. I don’t know. Probably unlikely, but you never know, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
You never know, although I think, how do I say this, Bill? You have to look to the future. Get rid of the past, by the way. The past is the past. We’re living in the present, and then look to the future. I think, you know, your comments a moment ago about, you know, will we need some of that again? You know, and I think within reason, if there’s certain things that you think you might need on down the road, again, some of this comes back down to what room do you have to even think store said items, if you’re somebody that’s really tight on space, then guess what, you’re going to need to be a little bit more proactive in this area than somebody that has, you know, a 3000 square foot outbuilding, they can go put stuff in. I mean, it’s a way different scenario. Although Bill, that person with a 3,000-square-foot outbuilding can get really lazy and just start throwing things in. And before you know it, it’s overrun with stuff that shouldn’t be there. So really the mindset shouldn’t be any different one way or the other. And this whole, well, I might need that someday, I think you really have to take a hard look at that and say, okay, what would I need it for? I mean, yeah, I might, but what would that occasion be? Why would I need this?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and it goes back to that kind of comment we started the show off with. If you learn to incorporate all the things we’re talking about into your life, right? Again, we go back to that term lifestyle design. It’s not something that I’m holding on to in case the world falls apart. it now is incorporated into my life. And guess what, John? If I’m using these things on a regular basis, then when the stuff does happen, I don’t miss a beat, right? I just, I keep on trucking, right? I mean, you look at the, during COVID, the Amish, they didn’t skip a beat. That was everyday life for them anyway, so.
SPEAKER 06 :
And really quick for a lot of you listening to, here’s some other things. I’ll talk about this probably tomorrow on Fix It Radio. But Bill, the other thing that we all end up accumulating, myself included, is paint that doesn’t match anything any longer. So why am I keeping that can of paint? Or an old paintbrush that, by the way, I wouldn’t get out and paint anything with anyway. So why am I keeping that? I mean, there’s those sorts of things as well that have nothing to do with sentimental value. It’s simply the practicality of… why am I hanging onto this when we’ve already repainted the house? There’s not a single color that this thing matches. Why am I keeping this half gallon of old paint?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Yeah, absolutely. And there’s another thing too, that you can watch yourself get into. And my wife’s like key on it. She’s tuned in on this. I go through mode moods where I’m like, I’m done with all this junk. I’m getting rid of it. And she’s like, Let’s go. Let’s strike when the iron’s hot. Let’s throw. And then there’s other days where it’s like, oh, I should really throw it. No, I’m going to hang on and do a little bit more. So, you know, ride those waves, if you will.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, that’s right. No, and I get in some of those modes sometimes. It’s like, okay, it’s all going. I’m pitching it all. I’m not keeping anything. And man alive, I just start filling up, you know, the dumpster and, you know, off the stuff goes. And I don’t even look back. And I know there’s people sometimes that look at that and think, how could you throw that away? Oh, believe me, easy. I just tossed it. It’s done. It’s gone. I’m done. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
You had no emotional attachment to anything on that particular day.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, to your point, those are the days to clean. Right. Literally. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s the day to go clean.
SPEAKER 06 :
When you’ve got one of those days where you’re just like, okay, that’s right. I’m going to pitch things. Start pitching then.
SPEAKER 09 :
Start pitching. My wife sees that and she’s like, Plans just changed. We’re not doing it. I don’t care what’s happening. Everything’s canceled. We’re cleaning because he’s in the mood.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and you know what? I get in some of those moods as well because, you know, for me, I don’t know about you, but I just get the point where it’s like, okay, I’m tired of the stuff. I’m tired of, you know, tripping over X, Y, Z or whatever the case may be, and I want this stuff gone. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that brings up another point. Stuff like this, it wears on you.
SPEAKER 06 :
It does, and that’s why I want to do this on Ready Radio, because if you’re dealing with all of this stuff, you’re not getting ready, Bill, for anything.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you’re not getting ready. And first of all, if something happens, you’re not going to know where anything’s at.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic is all you’re doing, by the way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Great example. Somebody just texted in, by the way. This is a perfect example because I can tell you right now what my dad would have done. I just replaced my very expensive and extensive fire and security system. I threw all the components of the old system away. I knew I’d never use it again, nor would I sell the old components. Yeah, well, my dad would have kept all that. Mm-hmm. Yep. So that right there, perfect example of why do you need to keep the old components that, well, I might need this someday. No, you won’t. No, because that stuff’s getting updated on down the road as we go. Everything that is out today is better than it was even six months ago. Why would you keep any of that?
SPEAKER 09 :
The only reason I could see to keep it is if you were going to turn it. I keep a lot of old electrical stuff because in my business, there’s times where I come across something old and I need a piece that matches that old equipment.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you’re different.
SPEAKER 09 :
But maybe that’s so old that I’m going to sell it on eBay because, again, in the electrical business, sometimes I come across systems. that they don’t make, you know, components for anymore. And I got to jump on eBay and try to find that weird part. So you can turn that into a little bit of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ve said this before for all of you listening. Some of that really comes down to you, the amount of time you have, how much messing around with, you know, Facebook Marketplace or eBay or whatever do you want to do. Personally, for me, it’s got to be a fairly decent higher ticket item. And what I mean by that, Bill, is it’s got to be $100 or more or it’s going in the garbage. Personally, that’s my threshold. If it’s over $100, I might think about selling it. Otherwise, I’m pitching it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and everybody’s going to be different, John, because $100 to some other person or $50 or $20 could be the difference of their kid taking another skate lesson or something. I mean, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, and for me, I just did the math on what’s my time worth, and for me, that’s that value right there because I’ve got so many other things I can be doing that generate revenue, by the way, that if I can’t make that off of it, then it needs to go away because I’m losing money at that point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I love that argument because I’ve had people tell me that argument too, and I say, okay, well, what do you do during your downtime? Because you’re scrolling through your phone, you’re binge-watching TV. I say, so you ain’t doing it anyway, so stop acting like you would. If I had all this time, right. You know, stop acting like you would be using that to that time to actually promote your business. Cause the truth is, is you’re goofing off.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And then there’s a lot of that. And then that’s one of those two where people really take a hard look at, you know, how much time are you doing and nothing against being, you know, having some downtime and recreation and so on. Everybody needs that for their mental health and so on. I understand all of that, but you, you break up a great point. I mean, if all you’re going to do is dink around with something else and you could make some money selling the other stuff, well then, Do so. Point of today’s program, for all of you listening, is while we’re going through the holidays, and you’ve got really a solid month now where you’ll see people, there’ll be parties, there’ll be get-togethers, family, and so on. And if you’ve got aging parents, grandparents, or you yourself fit that description, start having these conversations to help the family out because it will be a big, trust me, trust me on this, it will be a big help to your family if you do so. Bill, as always, man, I appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving to you. I know we won’t see you next week, so happy Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, you as well, John. We’ll talk to you later.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, man. Have a great evening. And that’s it for Ready Radio this week, guys. Again, thank you for listening. KLZ Radio.
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