Beyond TV nostalgia, the conversation intensifies as Mike and Mark explore the concept of ‘lawfare’ in politics, examining the implications of judicial interference in political agendas. Despite the legal battles, they remain optimistic about the current public support for political leaders and encourage listeners to relish the unique political landscape.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
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And the rest… And the rest. What happened to Professor and Marianne? Professor and Marianne. Don Wells and Russell Johnson got screwed in season number one. Why? They weren’t characters? No, they were totally there. I guess they were. Sherwood Schwartz, the genius who gave us Gilligan’s Island and Brady Bunch, by the way. I guess they thought it scanned better. There was like a lot of syllables or something. So in season one, it was a movie star. And the rest, like, whoa, right? What? So out of all those, one of the best casts, one of the best concepts, one of the goofiest and most wonderful, wonderful shows that stands the test of time, one cast member alive, birthday today, who is it? Tina Louise. Bingo. How old? 109. Nope. She’s 93. Is she really? I wasn’t that far off. I saw a recent interview with her and got her marbles, still kind of with it, kind of feisty. It was very cool. It’s funny. When you say 109, there is a member of that cast who right now would be 125. Who? The Skipper. Nope. Alan Hale. Nope.
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Gilligan? Nope. I don’t know. Lovey. Oh, Jim Backus.
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No, Lovey. Jim Backus, born 1913. Lovey, the great Natalie… What was Natalie’s last name? Born 1900. Natalie Hayward, or was it? Natalie…
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See, listen, you wouldn’t get this information anywhere else except for the M&M experience. That is exactly right. You want to know how old Lovey and Honeydubby or whatever his name was, the hubby was. Natalie Schaefer.
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Natalie Schaefer. I should be flawed.
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Yeah, of course.
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Of course. We all know Natalie Schaefer. By the way, and it’s funny, I’m sorry, with all these Twitter accounts and stuff, with regard to Gilligan’s Island, somebody put up a wonderful, beautiful picture of Lovey. who was a beautiful woman in her own right. And the point of the tweet was, you know, because everybody talks about Ginger Marion, Ginger Marion. And the point of the tweet was, you know, you did have a third option on that island.
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Exactly right. All right, so happy Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, Mike. Well, let’s talk about options. I’ve been exploring my options, career options, after yesterday’s show.
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No, no, no, what happened? No.
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Let me tell you what happened. And incidentally, I got an email this morning, right before I walked into the studio. Hi, Mike. We found your profile. We think you might be interested in the following job opportunity. Creative Director, location Chicago. You might also like these positions. Associate Director, Public Sector Growth Campaigns, Rolling Meadows, Illinois. After what happened yesterday on the air, I absolutely am ready to take it to… What did you do? What did listeners do? What happened? I wanted to talk to somebody who doesn’t like Trump. Okay. I wanted to ask somebody who doesn’t like his agenda, doesn’t like him, a Kamala supporter, how does it feel to see a stadium full of people cheering him wildly? What does that do to you? Psychologically. Psychologically, your heart. And I thought this is going to be easy, right, Mark? It was like the bus pulled up from the asylum and the people got off the bus and they all started to call the Mike Gallagher show. You couldn’t understand half of them. They were talking in gibberish. One guy, you could not understand. And a lot of them weren’t even talking into the mouthpiece of the phone. I could not find a single rational Trump opponent who would call the show, and I tried for 45 minutes. Look, by the end of the hour, I was staring into the abyss. I thought, my dream job of driving the monorail at Disney World awaits me. I’m going to leave. I’m going to apply. I would be so good at that. I put the little cap on in the front of the train. Hi, everybody. I used to be Mike Gallagher. Welcome to the world’s happiest place.
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I used to be Mike Gallagher.
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I mean, yeah. I mean, I’m out. I’m out. How hard can this be?
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So as you ask this question, it turns out there were two bad things that could happen. One, nobody responded. Or two, people responded.
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Boy, did they. Oh, they did. Oh, they responded. The phones blew up. And it was like caller after caller. And people were like bagging on Teresa, my poor call screener, saying, do you vet any of these calls? I said, yes. I said, the criteria is, I mean, I dare you to do it with your audience.
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I think I just. I think it just got one unsolicited, which is, you know, fine. But you were asking something.
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All right, what did they say? What did they say?
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It was a lady who thought it was just awesome that judges are interrupting some of the Trump agenda items.
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Well, we want to talk about that. We want to talk about that. I want to get to that. But what I would love for you to do, and incidentally, do you realize in the history of the Eminem experience, we’ve never taken a call? Oh, nor will we. You don’t want to? What’s your show? Why not? Why not? More you and me, dude. Wouldn’t it be fun to hear from somebody who can say, well, this is what I was feeling. I love the public, but no. You don’t love them that much. And I’m half kidding, but only half. I know you are. But it would be kind of, I would love to find somebody. I want to talk to one of the, I mean, what did they say? You know, I mean, the first thing they did was they lied about it. Oh, you got booed. They just, that was gaslighting 101.
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I heard that too. And I also, there was an adjunct to that, that when the famous footage of when they showed Trump saluting for the national anthem and the cheers went up, that that was an applause track played from the stadium sound system.
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And you know why? No, no, not even the stadium sound system. You know why that conspiracy theory came about? Because it was a Fox broadcast. They were promoting… Did you notice how they were promoting Fox News Channel all throughout the Super Bowl? Did you catch that? Sure. And they made a real… They never normally do that much. They really wanted to go all out and promote the Fox News Channel brand with that massive audience. So people, conspiracy kooks, the nuts, said, oh, Fox News? Okay, Fox. They were piping in the cheers. I mean, and I just wondered… I think the… I got a couple of emails about it from Trump haters who said… everybody’s been brainwashed. We’re the smart ones, and all of you people are dummies. That’s their mindset. They think everything.
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That’s what I just got from the lady on the phone. It wasn’t a thoughtful, and God bless her, and I love her, and I love all people, but it was like that all the people, I said seven.
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to be you. Oh, I didn’t say that. Don’t put words in my mouth.
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It’s exactly what she said. It’s the way they have to cope. And here’s the problem that Democrats have, which leads us to what they’re doing now with these activist judges trying to thwart Trump’s agenda. Democrats suffer from a complete lack of imagination. They can never pivot. They always go back to the same well over and over and over again. For example, the progressives have destroyed their party. They’ve just obliterated it. The lefties, the AOCs, the Ilhan Omars, all this radical crazy, these activist district attorneys, all of that. comes from that playbook, and they’re not pivoting away from that. They’re not changing. Look, we better hold on to our hats and worry if they ever realize that they could pivot to the middle if they pivoted to the center. Center left, some Harold Ford Jr. John Fetterman. But they won’t do that, and that’s good for our side. They may never win another election. But here’s the other thing they keep going back to. Lawfare. Lawfare, lawfare, lawfare. It’s all they got, Mark. They tried it for four years with Trump. They did everything they could in their power to weaponize the court system. Well, they’re doing it again. Now they find activist judges, all Democrat appointees who hate Trump.
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I think there’s a Republican in the woodpile in there somewhere, I believe.
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There’s one or two, but for the most part, these are Democrats. And look, we’ve learned by now, lots of Republicans in name only that hate Trump, right? And what they’re doing is they’re trying to subvert his agenda. I love what J.D. Vance put on social media. Imagine if some lone district judge somewhere… tried to tell the military how to fight a war and subverted a military action. That’s the same thing. They’re just… And last night, for example, on CNN, the great Scott Jennings mixed it up with Gretchen Carlson, of all people. What happened to her? She’s… I know. I used to be on her show all the time.
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Former Miss America, former Channel 5, locally.
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I love her. I used to be on her show regularly. I was one of her regulars back in the day when she was a daytime Fox News host. And, you know, she famously… You know, she ran, you know what she did to Roger Ailes, right? What? Do you know the whole, do you remember that backstory? She felt the late Roger Ailes was sexually harassing her. So she went into his office with her iPhone running. She taped him, and she secretly, covertly recorded him saying apparently inappropriate things. And when she plopped the iPhone down in front of the Fox News News Corp. lawyers, they said, let’s get out the checkbook. She got a lot of money.
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I was going to say, when you said she went in and had a phone recorder going, the first thing I said is, did she catch him? What did he do? I mean, that might not be my favorite thing, but guess what? You can look it up. No, I don’t doubt. No, I’m just saying. Somebody…
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Well, anyway, she got a big settlement, and now apparently she’s an occasional panelist on CNN and MSNBC. She’s gone far left. She wasn’t like that when I was back in the day. I remember working with her, and I was a guest regularly, and she was kind of a fairly right-of-center, kind of Fox News talking head. Anyway, they mixed it up, and Scott Jennings was saying, look, They’re using lawfare all over again. And here’s the thing. And Abby Phillips pushed back and said, well, that’s what the Supreme Court is for. And as Scott so rightly pointed out, yeah, but it’s the delay that matters. It’ll take a long time. That’s what they’re trying to do, Mark.
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They just want to delay it.
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The delay is the point. hobble him again for two three four years i don’t think it’s going to work this time i believe there’s as scott mentioned emergency injunctions that the court can step in because thankfully we have a majority constitutionalist court yes we do so they’re going to they’re going to adhere to the constitution what else we have judges what else we have is the court of public opinion did you watch the latest clip of harry enton
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On CNN, again, Scott Jennings, Harry Enten, both employed by CNN. All Scott Jennings does is get out there and say magnificent conservative things. All Harry Enten, their data guy, does is show more polls that show that America loves what’s going on. He said he’s had a positive rating every day. We got 70 percent who say that he is keeping his campaign promises compared to 46 in the opening days of the 2017 administration. And it’s like we have the approval for the moment. Cross your fingers. We have the strong approval of the public for him doing what he is doing.
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Did you notice the anchor that was on set with Harry Enten when he went on that whole spiel? Did you see her? She looks so constipated. She is so angry. She looks like she’s getting ready to break out into tears. And remember the big takeaway? He said 21 days of positivity numbers for him. He only had 14 total positive days in the first four-year term.
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We’re in uncharted territory.
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I mean, cope and seethe. Seethe and cope. So I’m loving it. Tracy went out and framed a New York Post for me. I got a New York Post cover framed in my studio, Trump shot, and the big iconic picture with the blue background and the American flag and the bloodstream. Fight, fight, fight. And now… We’ve got a second edition to it. I’m so proud of this. The Golden Age of America, the cover of the New York Post showing him being sworn in. And we’re going to put them side by side. It’s extraordinary. I hope we all are appreciating and relishing what a time it is to be alive.
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These times will never come again. Not just like this. I hope we can have 12 straight years of MAGA and more with two terms of J.D. Vance or whoever. But just like this. Just enjoy every day. I know I do, especially when we get to chat.
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I do, too, especially when we do the M&M Experience. I love you, too. See you tomorrow.
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