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In this episode of The Kim Munson Show, we delve into the heart of ongoing debates surrounding rights and freedoms in modern society. Kim and her guests explore the complex interplay between government policy and individual liberties, focusing on current events and historical context. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the implications of policy decisions that impact property rights, freedom of mobility, and more. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges the conventional narratives and sheds light on the realities of living in today's world.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's producer Joe Luke. Excuse me. Let's start over. Thank you to Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe.
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We look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate, and it's not altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. Force could be a weapon, but it could be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. the agenda of the World Economic Forum, the globalist elites, and then there's all kinds of ways that they are taking our property. It could be through land use codes, zoning regulations, forest fees, taxes, I mentioned that earlier, conservation easements, all these things. You may think you own your property, but if you can't use your property, if somebody else is controlling it, you don't really own your property. And property certainly can be tangible, but it could be intangible as well. And so that's why property rights are inherent within the whole American idea. Our word of the day, and I need to, when you submit these, I need to write down who submitted them to me. I think this was Richard, I think. And if not, text me, 720-605-0647, so I get it right. The word of the day is disparate, and it could be fundamentally distinct or different in kind, entirely dissimilar, or containing or composed of dissimilar or opposing elements. I would say that those on the left that quote the Constitution and say that they are upholding the Constitution, that's really disparate from what their real agenda is. So your challenge is to use the word disparate, D-I-S-P-A-R-A-T-E, in a sentence today. Our quote of the day comes from Marcus Aurelius, and he was born in 121. He died in 180. He was a Roman emperor from 161 to 180 and a Stoic philosopher. And he was a member of the Nerva Antonine dynasty, the last of the rulers later known as the Five Good Emperors. and the last emperor of the Pax Romana, an age of relative peace, calm, and stability for the Roman Empire. And a friend of mine, they got two new little puppies. And one of his friends said to him, well, your puppies are going to probably outlive you. And my friend said, he said, well, how do you know that? And so he, my friend, suggested this quote of the day from Marcus Aurelius. And he said, And that is from Marcus Aurelius. So regarding headlines, we didn't talk about it yesterday. I talked with some friends of mine that either grew up in Texas. One of my friends actually went to Camp Mystic as a girl, as a child. And so this is really hitting home to her. She knows people who have lost loved ones in this flood. But this headline is that the Camp Mystic confirms at least 27 campers missing. and counselors were killed in Texas flooding. And I talked to Colonel Rutledge yesterday. As you know, he's 96 years young. In fact, he has a birthday any day now, where he's going to be turning 97. And he's traveled the world, and he has this great interest in people and history. And he said that for a couple of years, he was stationed at the Air Force Base down, I think, in San Antonio. And so they had friends that lived up into the hill country. And he said that this happens. It's been a long time since there's been this weather event. But if you get a deluge of rain up in the hill country, it's like putting water into a funnel and it's going to come out, it's going to come out. you know, with great force, which is what happened. And apparently Camp Mystic was on the shores of this river. And apparently there were warnings, but they were in the middle of the night. And I think Susan had texted me and said, we get so many warnings these days that we don't sometimes pay attention to all of them. And so they certainly should have paid attention. But you think about it, I think that this is again, this is hearsay. I haven't confirmed this. But that the first warning was maybe around. 1.30 in the morning, then another one around 4, and then after that, the flooding hit the camp. And you think about it, here's your counselors, everybody's sleeping, you've got all these little girls, and it just was a perfect, terrible storm. for all of this. So our prayers go out to everyone. I tell you, you send your kids off to camp or to school and you expect them to come home. And I just, my heart breaks for all of these people there. So certainly our prayers go out to everyone in Texas. We're working our way through, this is the whitehouse.gov. And this is, they have 50 people What does he title this? 50 Wins in the One Big Beautiful Bill. And I know there's things in there that people are concerned about. But I'll go through. I went through the first five yesterday. This is the next five. It says it provides historic tax cuts for seniors. Of course, we love tax cuts. However, I do not like peeling different groups out. When you think about how our young people are struggling, trying to get it together to... to live life, to try to buy a house, to take care of things. I really don't like to have different groups tax differently because inherently that's in the communist manifesto is to tax entities different. And then people vote differently. And so, yes, please that there is tax cuts for seniors, but would really like to have tax cuts across the board. So that's number six. Number seven, it finishes President Trump's border wall. Totally love that. He says, as a result, 701 miles of primary wall, 900 miles of river barriers, 629 miles of secondary barriers, and 141 miles of vehicle and pedestrian barriers will be constructed. Number eight, it boosts Border Patrol and ICE agents on the front lines within the largest border security investment in history. This means funding to hire 10,000 new ICE personnel, 5,000 new customs officers, and 3,000 new Border Patrol agents to detain and deport at least one million illegal immigrants annually. Next, number nine, let's see. Let's see, number nine, it increases the child tax credit to $2,500 per family. Again, I love supporting families. And again, I'd love to just lower taxes totally across the board, which I know he's done that as well. And then lastly, it says it protects Medicaid for Americans who truly need it. This bill eliminates waste, fraud, and abuse by ending benefits for at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants who are gaming the system. So those are the things that are in the, that's number 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 in his 50 wins in the Big Beautiful Bill. So we will continue to go through that as well. next headline that I wanted to mention is that Denver continues to be making decisions to put Denver in decline and this is from westward and it is a reader the harder you make parking the fewer people will come to Denver what Denver thinks they are doing is to try it's the war on your car to try to keep you from being able to have freedom of mobility, to go where you want to when you want to. And so this says this by Westward Readers. And it says, to abolish minimum parking requirements. Under the city's proposal, developers would be able to choose whether to include new parking spaces in construction projects and existing businesses and housing complexes would be able to eliminate current parking. If approved, the change would take effect on August 11th. It says the trio of bills to remove parking minimums from Denver's zoning code passed a preliminary Denver City Council vote on Monday. The final council vote and public hearing are scheduled for August 4th, Westward said. In the meantime, readers didn't waste time parking their opinions on the Westward Facebook page, says Jay. And Jay says this, that's about to be a disaster. It already is. Jonathan says this is really dumb. I can't continue to say what he said. There's already not enough parking in Denver to facilitate the amount of people, especially around apartment complexes. And no one will want to live somewhere where they have to fight to find street parking. Okay. Let's see. Rick, I'm not sure Rick understands. He says, there's plenty of parking and buildings can still provide whatever number of spaces they need. No businesses will ignore the parking needs of their residents and risk not being able to fill their units. I don't know about that. And Jeffrey says, if I didn't know any better, I think Denver was passive, aggressively trying to get people to get rid of their cars. I think that Jeffrey has nailed that. And so I ask you, they say millennials have come to Denver for the Denver vibe. I talked to a millennial who said the Denver vibe is gone, and it's because of terrible public policy. And so we need to continue to... shed light on this and the war on our cars, people don't want to give up their freedom of mobility. Freedom of mobility is freedom of opportunity. And people want to have opportunity to choose a job that may not be along a light rail line or a bus line. And people want to go to the mountains to hike and be able to do those kinds of things. And so people really do want to have freedom of mobility. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors, and the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team wants you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. Their office will respond to your call or text 24 hours a day. So for that 24-hour peace of mind, call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We really do appreciate it. Do you want to have financial freedom? Well, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing, and a network of smart strategies. And you have a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie-cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And pleased to have on the line with me, former state senator and author of the Lumberg Report, which you can find at KevinLumberg.com, is Kevin Lumberg. Welcome, Kevin.
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Well, thank you. Great being with you again.
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Well, good to have you as well. And a lot is going on. And your Lumberg Report comes out on Saturdays. And it is just great information. And one of the first things that you highlighted this last week is the big, beautiful bill, which is now law. And I'm going through the WhiteHouse.gov website with the 50 wins that they say that there's in the bill. I know there are those that have concerns about things as well. What's your thoughts about this big, beautiful bill?
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Well, in some ways, I think it's appropriately named. But bear in mind a couple of constraints that they had to live within. One was that at the congressional level, the only way they could put this package together and get it through the Senate was through the reconciliation process, which tightly restricts what it can and can't do and how it can and can't do things. Because reconciliation is supposed to be just kind of a budget-squaring system, and therefore you didn't need 60... votes in the Senate to pass it, you needed a simple majority. And so when I look at a lot of the concerns we have, and yeah, you can nitpick a lot of details. I wish they would have done it that way. You know, for example, you spoke a little bit earlier on your program about how you wish they would just lower the tax rate across the board. Well, my guess is that President Trump would agree with you But he had to work around a few logistics in order to accomplish the overall goal. So that's one thing. And number two, when you have a big bill that's so comprehensive, sausage making, you know, that's what legislation has been compared to quite a bit. Well, it turns into a lot of sausage. In other words, it's kind of an ugly process to to see how they got there. But having said all of that, I would say that I believe that this is a monumental accomplishment in Trump's first few months in office, which he needed desperately in order to continue with all of the changes that he's doing to get us back on track and away from the disastrous situations and policies that Biden and Obama and really a whole lot of administration before that. I haven't seen such dramatic action in the right direction ever. I mean, Ronald Reagan was a great president who did a lot. But if you watched how how he had to manage, and of course he had a Democrat-controlled House, I believe it was initially. Maybe it was both Senate and House a long time ago, you know. He accomplished a great deal, but not nearly as much as what's happening here today. So I like the bill. I think it is Pretty beautiful in a lot of ways, and definitely big.
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Well, it is remarkable. Being back in Washington, I've been back a few times, and it truly is sausage being made. There's a lot of egos, lots going on. And the fact that he has gotten this done within, gosh, he was inaugurated right around the 20th of January, right around that time. To get this done in this amount of time is truly, it is, it's monumental.
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Yeah, along with just everything else he's done that we don't have time to go through, but he has worked with remarkable speed. And so, yeah, I call it a very big win. That is a first good step. I heard a report, I think it was just yesterday on some newscast, that Speaker Mike Johnson said, well, this is number one. We've got two more bills that we're thinking about doing, one in the fall and one next spring, to really round out all that they need to accomplish. So I'm looking forward to what those might hold as well.
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Well, it is pretty amazing what has happened there. We're talking about leadership. The next thing that you had on... the Lundberg report was Colorado's leadership. You had three different links there. You said, speaking of more work needed, there are reminders in Colorado. If we are to see freedom reign in our state, we have a lot of work to do. And so I clicked on those links. And one of them was Jared Polis's at a Pride event on basically a tricycle. And I was thinking about it as I was coming into the studio. That doesn't look like the strong leader that we think that we want as our governors and as our presidents. I thought it was quite odd.
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Yeah, and you know, when I first saw that, I thought, oh, this has got to be AI. Somebody took his likeness and put it on this ridiculous image. And then I saw some other footage of him mingling around in the crowd on that day, and I thought, no, that's him. And that's exactly what... And here's why this makes sense. Look, I was an elected official, not nearly at the position of governor, but, you know, state representative, state senator. People... paid attention, looked up to me, and they recognized me back in my district to a degree. And I understood that I needed to conduct myself in a manner that was appropriate for the position when in public. When I did parades, and I would do a lot of them, I would carefully dress so that I'm I looked appropriate, if you will. And I didn't try to mock myself or, you know. And so it was just kind of a dumb presentation that I saw the governor putting himself in. And I thought that this shows kind of a cavalier, I couldn't care less attitude, which I actually observed of him up close and personal, you might say. when I ran against him for Congress back in 2012, oftentimes when I would meet him in debates or something, it's like his brain was just not even paying attention to the fact that he was a member of Congress. I don't like that attitude. That's not a true leader. You know, if you look at, let's go back to President Trump. He certainly recognizes how he should comport himself in a public setting. And, you know, he usually has a suit and tie and has a certain image that he displays is very intentional. It's, you know, it's well planned. Well, I think Governor Polis does the same thing, only with a very different attitude in mind. And I don't appreciate that. And actually, let me flip that over to something I didn't include in the newsletter because I wasn't aware of it until yesterday. And that is the governor has now called for a special session of the legislature. He has exercised his authority. And it's not a big surprise. At the end of the session, they said, well, we'll probably have to call a special session to deal with the hiccup they have on a law that they put in place the previous year. concerning regulation of artificial intelligence in the state, AI, and they found it to be completely dysfunctional, but they couldn't come to agreement. So, okay, they're going to have to do that, and there were a couple of other things that they thought they might do. But the real story on him calling a special session is to react to the big, beautiful bill. And most particularly, it's the fact that through this bill, which does deal with the funding issues, as I said, that's what a reconciliation bill is all about, Colorado is finding themselves behind the eight ball of losing, by one estimate, within the article, it said Medicaid funding from the federal government will probably be about $500 million less. And because of the requirements it makes, if Colorado's to maintain their current Medicaid rolls, they're going to have to come up with about $500 million more. And I think, if I interpret it right, on top of that. But let's just be rather conservative in our estimates and just say, okay, the bill is going to create about a 500 million dollar hole or more for the medicaid program here in the state and that's why they're calling the special session now it's very appropriate and i hope they deal with it appropriately but i kind of have my doubts they're just going to be crying big crocodile tears about how the federal government and most particularly donald trump is is uh cursing Colorado by changing the Medicaid funding rules. Well, let's dig a little deeper. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, let's do that. Let's go to break and let's dig a little deeper on that. This is super interesting. And the leadership down at the governor's office and also in the mayor's office in Denver is really putting Colorado in decline because of terrible choices that they are making. So we're going to talk more about that. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. And if you're buying your home or selling a home, be sure and reach out to Karen Levine.
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. And do you want to really get an understanding of what is going on from somebody that really understands the issues? And that would be Drew Dix, one of the co-founders of the Center for American Values. He has started a podcast, which I think gives amazing perspective on some of these security issues that we're facing in our country. And you can access his podcast by going to the Center for American Values website. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org, and check that out. On the line with me is Kevin Lundberg. He is a former state senator and author of the Lumberg Report. We were just talking about late breaking news that Governor Polis has ordered a special session of the Colorado legislature. When are they going to convene this, Kevin Lumberg?
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Well, I don't recall the specific dates, but it's later this month in July. So, and usually the special session is three or four days long. It takes a minimum of three days to pass a bill. And so, you know, a lot of this kind of gets aligned ahead of time. And here's another thing to be aware of, or a couple of other things for a special session. One is if the governor calls it, and the legislature themselves can call one too, but they've never seen it happen, probably has at some point. But anyway, the governor puts on the, when he calls a special session, he puts a specific agenda in place so you can only deal with what he says you can deal with. So there's a limitation there on what can be proposed. And every member, I think, is restricted to one bill that they could submit, and not everybody does. So a lot of this stuff is probably happening right now. You know, they're developing their bills. They're probably, you know, pulling it all together and kind of hustling so that when opening day hits, they're ready to go. So three or four days, and they'll probably go through it. And if you're in the minority, like my colleagues in the Republican side, you pretty much just watch the process because they're not going to pay a lot of attention to your bills. Now, you know, maybe there'll be some horse trading and negotiating of some sort, but For the most part, it's all an accomplished deal about the time they start the process.
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Okay. So I thought I had seen headlines that Colorado was facing a $1.2 billion deficit. Is that on top of this $500 million that Colorado stands to lose on Medicaid funding?
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Well, I'm not sure, honestly, which is what, because there's been, you know, an anticipation that this would be part of that. It could very well be that it's on top of the specific Medicaid limitations, largely due to the current mostly COVID funding that had been provided over the last few years. And so the state, the legislature and the governor, they set up a lot of plans and programs with all this money flowing in. And I knew that there was going to be a reckoning because it couldn't be continued. But let me go back to the Medicaid. So my short answer is I don't know precisely what the number is, except it is in the hundreds of millions short-term and billions when you add it up over a few years. And, for example, now I'm going off the information that I read from the Rocky Mountain Voice, and... So they're kind of piecing all the details together as well. But they threw out a number of $10 billion shortfall over the next several years if you just look at the Medicaid funding component on this. But this actually – now, we're blaming Paulus. We're blaming the current legislature for doing all this stuff. But a lot of this got in place later or earlier as well because – Colorado went through what they called Medicaid expansion back in the Obama days. And that's when I was in the legislature. And Obama set up systems through what we called Obamacare, medical payment system, where Medicaid could take a much greater role in funding medical costs in the state. by creating new categories of people who made more income than what it was. See, Medicaid was set up, and I think appropriately, to be that safety net for the people who could afford nothing else. I get it that, you know, medical costs are expensive. And even if we got it under control, it would be it's still prohibitive for people on the bottom rung. So, OK, we have a mechanism to help. But but they expanded it beyond that. And it got to the point that here and Medicaid expansion again happened way back, probably 20. I'm kind of ballparking this 2016 or so. And I'll tell you straight up, there are those of us who voted no across the board, myself included, knowing that ultimately we cannot afford to do that, not to mention the fact that it's not the government's business to pay for all the medical costs in this country. That's called socialized medicine, and we are perilously close to it because most dollars for medical costs are paid by the government in one way or the other, and that really means We discussed this in earlier sessions. A third-party payer like that just destroys the economic reality of things. Anyway, so now they've got to pull it back because the federal government says we're not going to pay for all of this expansion, and they still are offering to pay. Well, for the expansion, they offered up to 100 percent federal dollars to pay for these additional folks. And now they're saying, no, no, no, we're going to pull that back to 50 percent. I think they ought to pull it back to zero myself, but maybe incrementally. And maybe that's what they have in mind, too, is next bill says, well, it's going to be more. Anyway. This is a long-term problem that the Democrat-controlled legislature in the state of Colorado has asked for for a long time. And finally, they're going to have to face the reality.
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Well, and one of the things as president of CUT, which is the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I very quickly, I want to say thank you to the group that I get to work with. This is the board. It's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. This is an amazing group of people. And...
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May I say, just interject, that's a great group of people. I know many of them. And, yeah, you've got a good team.
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We do. Whenever I'm at our board meetings, I feel like I'm with the patriots, the founders, because these people are so focused on really – well, and four things. Taxes. Taxes and fees. That's taking money from hardworking people. Property rights. Taxes. school choice, parental rights is in that, and then protecting taper. But one of the bills that of the 766 bills and resolutions that was proposed or that were proposed this last legislative session, one of those was, I think, a committee to explore basically single payer or state-run medical health care. And that is the last thing that we want here. But they are continuing to try to push us to socialize medicine here in Colorado, Kevin.
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Yeah, yeah. And as I spoke probably too long on, they've been doing this for a long time. It has been their goal to move the... payment system, the exact wrong direction. And I might add that they, in this last session, they passed a study committee, basically, to come up with a report to the legislature. I think it's in the end of 2026 that they're supposed to come up with this plan on how can we make it 100 percent government payment, which is Which would just destroy the medical mechanisms in this state. And yeah, so they're going the wrong direction. People of Colorado need to stop them by getting rid of them, frankly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and what you mean is to vote them out, and certainly we want to vote them out.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
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Yes, absolutely. So let's see, anything else regarding Governor Polis? Because when we come back, I want to get updates regarding Protect Kids Colorado. Anything else that we need to know about this special session?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, hang on to your hat because I'm sure it's going to be very contentious. Only it's one sided because they own all the votes. But but place this as a marker for this is what the current legislative team is all about. And they're going to cry big crocodile tears on how terrible this is. But I want everybody to know. that they brought it upon themselves because they've been so reckless with their policies for so long.
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Well, and Kevin Lundberg, and I've gone down to testify at the state legislature, you have have as well. And what I have determined is, you mentioned there will be crocodile tears because they will want to imply that they care about the people of Colorado. They don't. I have learned that this is not about caring and taking care of the people and doing the job that they're supposed to do as representatives of the people. This is about power and control. And Dr. Jill will be on next week. We're going to have her on once a month to talk about healthcare and how to fix it in America. And Colorado is going the exact wrong way. Because when you get government involved, what happens is, is the quality goes down, the supply becomes limited, and the price goes up. And so what that means is less people will actually have quality healthcare. So we need to go the other direction on that, Kevin.
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Absolutely. I'm so glad to hear that you've got Dr. Jill on somewhat a regular basis there because I've learned so much from her. Of course, she sees it very clearly from her perspective as a medical doctor. I see it very clearly from the perspective as a former legislator who was on the health committees almost all the time, that and the Joint Budget Committee. Those are my focuses. And I learned... on the economics of it, that they are destroying the system by somehow thinking that if you just take away the cost mechanism, everything turns wonderful. No, it gets the exact opposite. It just becomes a bizarre conglomeration of rules and regulations and controls and... Yeah, yeah. The only silver lining I see is as they're doing this at the federal level and the RFK Jr. is heading the right direction saying, look, we've got to put people back in charge. And we've got to put this responsibility in the hands of your doctor and you, the patient. What a novel idea. And that's who's paying the bill.
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What a novel idea. And so this is important. This is going to be super interesting. So we're going to continue to watch that. These are such important discussions. And they happen because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, be sure to reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Do check out the website for the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. They're getting ready. In August will be their anniversary, and they're going to have a great event there. But it really is important to support the memorial because we want to honor the people involved. that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And a great way to do that is to support the foundation. And that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is Kevin Lumber. He is a former state senator, author of the Lumberg Report. And actually, this kind of connects. But we have the most amazing listeners. And Jenny texted me this. She said, is Polis putting together another pub that would be a Polis ugly bill? I think that is so clever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but yeah, that makes sense.
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And she also came up with OPM, opium, if you will, or OPM, which is other people's money. And so she is just so clever. I love that. And she said that, well, there is medical tourism. She said that Polis doesn't really care about insurance. Which I have to agree. But this medical tourism, and that is making Colorado a state where people can come here and have transgender operations or pharmaceuticals on children. This is, Colorado is headed in the wrong direction. But you and your colleagues, Erin Lee, Patty McKernan, so many people, Kane, Lori Gimmelstein, all of you are working together to protect kids and have created Protect Kids Colorado. So give us an update. What's happening with these ballot initiatives that you hope to get on the ballot in 2026?
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Well, I'm so glad you asked about this, and I'm so excited to talk about it, too. We actually just had a board meeting last night on many of the people you mentioned that are actually on the board. I'm honored to be the chairman of the board, which is, you know, a nifty title. But we're a working team, and that means we roll up our sleeves and get to work. This is an idea we've been working on for a couple of years, the whole Protect Kids Colorado concept. And yes, our focus is initially, and I'm sure that in years to come, the organization will blossom into areas I can't even imagine, really. But it's all focused on creating a correct environment where parents can be parents and kids can be kids. And these awful things that the governor and the legislature have been creating, like making the mutilation of children through surgery, making Colorado a destination spot for those who want to engage in that grisly industry. And it's more than just the surgeries. You're creating lifetime patience when they commit these awful crimes, is the way I would put it, even though it's not a crime technically, but it's certainly a crime against that child that's convinced that somehow they've got to be, you know, I won't go into the details on what they do, but the fact is that somehow they have just turned the right into wrong and facts into fables. And, you know, it's just bizarre. So Protect Kids Colorado is working on initiatives. And right now we are actually kind of regrouping because we got the three initiatives that we set out to get the permission for petitions. We got them passed, actually, quicker than we thought. But we ran into a couple of glitches on Oh, one of our proponents is actually moving out of the state, and that can't happen. And so we have to reapply. And we've done that. We're in the process of doing all three together. So we will hopefully get an approval that coordinates with all three. And that's going to happen over the next several weeks. In early or mid-August, we hope to have permission to go ahead and print the petitions and then start distributing and start doing them. But you mentioned a handful of people. Yes, these are hardworking, dedicated folks, but Protect Kids Colorado is not just them. If it's going to be anything effective, it's going to be thousands of people across Colorado. And so I have... I personally want to appeal to the listeners here on your program today to go to protectkidscolorado.org and check us out and sign up to be a part of this team. This is an army that's not just going to work on these initiatives, but we're changing the whole landscape on how law is made in Colorado. Now, we're not inventing something new. This has been in the Colorado Constitution since the beginning. We, the people of Colorado, reserve the right to make laws independent of the legislature. And the legislature we have today has proven themselves to be incapable of coming up with good solutions to real problems in our state. And we're starting with that core element of allowing parents to actually parent their children and protecting... You know, putting laws in place to protect kids in ways that they're being taken advantage of. The three initiatives, one is keeping boys out of girls' sports programs. Number two is preventing these medical... mutilation surgeries in the state. And number three is just so fundamental that almost everybody says, yeah, and that is increasing the penalties for child sex trafficking. That means if you're a seller or a buyer that you go to prison and we throw away the key because this just shouldn't be tolerated in our culture. And we want to get these things through.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I mentioned some of the names. I don't know who all is on the board, but you mentioned putting together an army of people, and a name that I did neglect to mention is Yvonne Paez. She is actually an Army veteran, but she is also working diligently. She's going to be organizing people with these different petitions, so I don't want to leave her off of that list. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's not she's going to be. She is organizing. And we've got hundreds of people who have signed up already. And Yvonne, we jokingly call her the general. I mean, jokingly, because that's not the position she held, you know, in the military. She was in military police and did a great job in that area. But she really is managing all of the particulars there. And my hat is off to her. She's just golden. And there's so many people that I'm so proud of and just such a pleasure to work with. But we need everybody to pitch in. And once we do, we will have redefined the Citizens Initiative process into a Citizens Initiative, not a rich man's sport where if you've got a few million dollars, you can buy your way onto the ballots and get a law passed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, great work, Kevin Lundberg. And Yvonne Paez is going to guest host the show for me a week from Friday. So that will be really terrific. Oh, wow. Yeah. And Kevin, we are having you on every other week. And I think this is really important, of course, during the legislative session every week so that we can break these things down. So I encourage people to check you out at KevinLundberg.com. Thanks, Kevin. We'll talk here very soon.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. Great being with you.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Tuesday, Kim.
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Boy, a lot of information with Kevin Lundberg. And that will rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And then after that, you can find us on Spotify and iTunes. And check out the website. That is Kim Munson. M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. You will find recaps of the shows and podcasts there as well. Make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. The text line is 720. 605-0647. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to implement it. And we focus on the issues on the show, and we'll mention the people pushing those issues, but we really are trying to stay out of the personality fighting that can occur just because of human nature. Let's see, our word of the day, well, a couple of, yeah, let's go to the word of the day. It's disparate. It's spelled D-I-S-P-A-R-A-T-E. It could be fundamentally distinct or different in kind, entirely dissimilar, or containing or composed of dissimilar or opposing elements. And we've got... people that say that they support the Constitution when, in essence, they are trying to undercut the Constitution, which is really a disparate message. Our quote of the day is from Marcus Aurelius, who was a Roman emperor. He was born in 121, died in 180. He said this, "'It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.'" And I am adding in something new. I was going through some of my books, and I found this. And it's by George Washington. And it's Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior in Company and Conversation. And so this is number two. And this is what George Washington said. He said, when in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered. Again, George Washington, he's giving these different suggestions on how to live with good manners and in a civil society. And he said again, when in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And I want to say thank you to Hooters Restaurants. They're closing the Lone Tree restaurant. location here this next sunday and the girls are coming over tomorrow night so we will be partaking of their wings day special but i will miss that and they are continuing with their locations in loveland on parker road here not far from the station and westminster and continuing to be sponsors of the show. How I Got to Know Them is a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats, and interested parties that are trying to control us and control is the opposite of freedom. And, of course, liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. So let's see. I did also want to mention... that we need to keep those in Texas with these floods in our prayers. It just breaks my heart to think that these little kids went to, these girls went to camp. You send your kids off to camp, school, you expect them to return at the end of the day, and it is just absolutely heartbreaking that this has occurred in the Texas Hill Country. And so our prayers go out to them. I wanted to talk with John Boson. It's Tuesday and I always love to get his weekly updates. And John Boson is on the line. And what's on your mind, John Boson?
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Well, first of all, good morning, Kim. Oh, God, that's a wide open question. Dangerous question to ask a lawyer. We got so much going on, Kim. You had mentioned in an earlier conversation about data collection, one we had off of there, and what can be done about it and what are the remedies, what can people do. So if you wanted to talk about that a little bit, we can talk about that this morning.
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Well, let's do that because our next guest, I'll be talking with her about it as well because she's all over this issue. But she, Virginia Maka with Stand for the Land Kansas, had sent a whole bunch of information over. And so I've not totally sourced this, but she had found a number and I tried to do a web search for it. that the data on kids in Kansas, the Kansas educational system is selling kids' data. And there was a number that she had found which was pretty significant. And I thought about it. I thought, huh. First of all, I think we should own our own data, particularly with the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution where we should be secure in our papers and our persons and all that. Now, I know that we as adults, as I've floated this idea of owning our own data, people have said, well, Kim, we give our permission when we go onto an app or whatever. And I'd like to revisit that. But that seems to me, John, like that's going to be a tough nut to crack. But I think... that if parents realize that their kids' data is being collected at school and then sold, I think most parents don't like that idea, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't like it. My kids are adults now, but what are they using that data for? Who are they selling that data to? Those would be questions I'd want answered, and I agree with you 100%. I mean, there have been a number of class action lawsuits against companies that have without consent collected data or data of people and then sold it to various companies for who knows what use. So there's precedent there. I had not heard about what you just described going on in Kansas with kids and the state education department selling that information to who knows who.
SPEAKER 16 :
I know.
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For what purpose?
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So a couple of things. In our text message, I said, what do you think? Maybe a class action lawsuit? And you responded back and said, interesting. So we're just ruminating on this, John. But I did buy the URL, own your kids. Let's see, what was it? It's like, own your kids' data. So I did buy that URL because I think that this is something that might get legs. And I was thinking maybe a class action lawsuit would
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's definitely a possibility. Ruminate about it. I like that word. I'm ruminating about it. Always looking for certain types of cases that, you know, further a cause. And, again, my question, what are they collecting? Why are they collecting it? Whom are they selling it to? And for what purpose? What's the end user using this for? And it upsets me. The one thing I think folks can do, not necessarily with their kids in the Kansas education system, but any time you see an opportunity where you're asked when you're on an app, can we track you? No. The answer is no. Because if they're tracking you, they're collecting data, and then they're doing something with that data. Now, the situation in Kansas, that's different. I mean, if I'm a parent... In Kansas, and I become aware of this, I'm writing the school district. I'm writing the whoever's at the head of the Education Department in Kansas. I'm writing the governor. I'm writing my representatives, local and state representatives, and saying, stop. Don't want this happening. As far as class actions, yeah, if you have enough people and you have a class, so to speak, that's been grieved by something like this, Anything is potentially out there. I hadn't thought about it until you texted me earlier, but you're on to something, Kim. I'd be super curious just to find out. I mean, my curiosity, who are you selling this to? What is it being used for?
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Well, and our next guest, I can't wait to talk with her about this because she's really the person that's probably planted this seed. As I've been ruminating on that, I love that word, too. John Bozen, on something separate, though, you help people if they've been injured. You help with Social Security disability, all those things. What is the best way for people to reach you if they've been injured?
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And again, that's John Bozen with Bozen Law. John, thank you so much. And who knows where this seed is going to go that we're planting here.
SPEAKER 05 :
We shall see.
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We shall see.
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All right, Kim, have a great rest of your show.
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Well, I was listening, Kim. I'm so glad that these subjects like data collection, especially on our children and the impact of what that could be on their future, is starting to come to the forefront and people are starting to realize this is maybe a situation that hasn't got as much attention as it should garner. And it's kind of like tax credits. That was not a discussion before the big, beautiful bill, nor our civil case that hit the federal court. And now people realize, even the people that signed leases, that they were duped. They were duped and they didn't have all the facts and they didn't know that trillions of dollars were being made on their backs. So it's very nice to hear these subjects being brought up. It's a long time coming for me.
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Well, you have been on the forefront of all of this, Virginia, and you really had planted this seed. And we'll go through all these subjects here, but on the data collection on her children, you had done an amazing amount of research and had sent it over. And I was trying to refine it, but it seemed – and I don't know how you found it – But it seemed like there was a number that the Kansas Department of Education had made $58 million by selling data on students. And I was trying to resource that. Do you recall that? Is that correct? And how did you find that?
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That is correct. So the Department of Administration in Kansas used to have those contracts and that information available on – This Kansas site that was an edict of a statute that said Kansas information, financial information had to be put out there on a website. Now that website's no longer managed because they've moved it and they've moved contracts and they've moved contracts to the cloud. And so it's very hard. to get that information if they deem that a cybersecurity risk or this or that, or third parties are now buying it from first parties and it becomes kind of a maze that you have to walk through. But those figures I gave you were from 2023 before they took everything. And I like to call it underground because if you're not being transparent, And you have to make people start digging for this information that should be right out there on the website because it is taxpayers' money. I like to call it, they took it underground and rearranged the way that we are able to access the Kansas government site. They've rebuilt it probably four times in the last three years. So it is a maze, but that is a correct fact of of actual contracts that are paid to the state for data and of course that list of contractors you know each one of them has a certain level of information that they requested or you know the degree or importance of that data the security of that data you know that information not supposed to be released like social security numbers or
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know so forth and they're supposed to be protected by the law why would we release that to to uh third you know to contractors well there this is a follow the money thing so after i you'd sent that information over i did a quick search and and found a number of students in in kansas and It worked out to, I think it was about $140 per student. And I was thinking about it, and this is own your own data, is if parents wanted to sell their children's data, So you have three kids in school, $450 or so. That's real money to a family that's struggling. So why, if data's being sold, it seems like that you should be paid for it.
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You know, I thought the same thing. So when I went to an education hearing, what I heard was that parents don't even know that when they sign their child up to register in school, they are actually opting them in to this system of collection. So what you saw there in those contract numbers was just information requested from the state of Kansas. Now, we have this longitudinal database that collects data across 50 states. on children, and it's controlled in Washington, D.C. Could you imagine the amount of data on attitudes, values, and beliefs that are in that system? Because that's what social emotional learning is about your attitudes, values, and beliefs. It shouldn't be a fact at all. When it comes to education, it should be reading scores. It should be academics. And it seems like those are the least things that they are concerned about. They're more concerned about behavioral beliefs, your morals. And when I suggested that it would become an opt-in only, that means you're not automatically opted in, that the school actually has to talk to the parent, describe what data is going to be collected on them, and that parent has to sign on the red line that says, hey, get all the data you want from my kid. I don't care. But you will find less than 1% of the parents ever saying that unless they're coerced. The fallback from this was people opted their kids out of social and emotional learning, and they presented waivers. And what that did to the school districts was throw them in a bind where in order to get the federal money, they had to collect that information, no matter what. and what the parents said. So it became a parents' rights thing. And you saw a significant amount of kids being removed from the public school system in Kansas and homeschooled. In fact, our homeschool population is really, it's kind of unknown, but it's significant. The numbers we get out of the education system are doctored numbers according to weighting scores. Like your kid could count as a kid and a half if he meets a certain criteria. So it becomes kind of an anomaly of, well, actual bodies. That's what we want. That's the number we want. But they're giving us weighted numbers of kids.
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which makes no sense at all. Unless you're trying to, I'm going to say, cook the books on the numbers is kind of what it's... Kind of. Yeah. Interesting. Okay, Virginia, all of this is connected and such an important discussion. And Virginia is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. We have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And we are understanding how important our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, the Fourth Amendment to be secure in our possessions, the Second Amendment to protect ourselves against bad actors. And I'm so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor of the show.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And someone that is really a national security expert, I think, is Drew Dix, who's a co-founder of the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo. And Drew is a Medal of Honor recipient. He's had just a myriad of experiences. And he started a new podcast. And you can find that by going to the website AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And his most recent one is regarding Homeland Security. So be sure and check that out. On the line with me is Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Commission. kansas and she has really planted a seed with me on first of all i didn't realize that our kids data was being sold by school districts i don't think that i can't believe that that's unique to kansas you said that actually the federal government is dictating that this data has to be collected do you know when that started virginia maca
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So I believe around in 2016 when they started changing the data collection laws that protected us at the federal level. So probably under the Obama administration. Yes. He lifted the restraints of that law that protected our children's data as well as ours. And through those bureaucracies, it has been just kind of a slow mirrored process until 2019 when I stumbled onto, it wasn't really a government agency, but it was a government contract called the Kansas Information Consortium contract that every piece of data collected by the state government could be bought and sold, including our voter registrations and our voter rolls. So that kind of really startled me, the amount of data just being distributed out of our government on us. And some of it was the state government didn't really have control of our county information or property information. And in 2020, We saw that change where our state connected 105 counties together on a cloud server that melted all of our data points into our profiles. And so that's kind of what we're seeing. And I know that's a lot for your listeners to grasp that Kansas is the epicenter of the modernization, and modernization means data collection. So that's why it's important to fight the energy on every level that we can, because the expansion of this renewable energy, which is intermittent, it's not baseload energy. That means at some point there's not going to be enough data enough electric produced from these renewable energy nor transmitted energy power across lines to support these data centers nor the AI growth. So when we come to that point where we realize renewable energies were just kind of a folly and we're not really concentrating on baseload, which is your coal and your gas and your nuclear and we're not expanding those fields we find that someone's going to come up short on energy supply and basically it'll be the citizens of this great country it'll be your manufacturing base of this great country and the data centers will consume every ounce of power we can produce For what reason? You know, it's kind of like looking at a bad movie and trying to just guess what kind of bad ending it's going to be. And I'm not a person that likes to do that. I'm a very positive person, but I just see not a good situation if we don't start the battle somewhere. And the pushback.
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You have been on the forefront on this. And, of course, Stand for the Land Kansas, all about property rights. Property rights are inherent in the American idea that people could own property, everyday people could own property, what they can create with their mind, their tangible property. and everyday people thrive and prosper it's called the american dream and these data centers i initially thought oh this is ai people talk about ai that you can put stuff in and it'll spit stuff out and you'll get information about and people use it that way but that's not what these data centers are really going to be about it's going to be about the data on each and every one of us. And that is an affront to the Constitution, the Fourth Amendment, where we can be secure in our own possessions. And so it's a big web, though, Virginia, that you're helping me unweave. And one of those is these uh co2 pipelines these transmission lines i thought that the tax credits for this was going to be addressed in the big beautiful bill did that happen you know we're still trying to unwind the big beautiful bill and it's hard for for someone with no legal background i have you know i'm familiar with some of the lingo
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But the way that they manipulate words in this bill, it's even hard for lawyers to decipher because it gives openings to bureaucrats to interpret the law a little bit more than they should. So we're still sorting that out. But what I like to watch, Kim, is the groups that come out and have meltdowns and you're thinking, I thought you probably got everything you wanted in the bill. But we're seeing solar companies melt down. We're seeing solar stocks bottom out. We're seeing cybersecurity like CrowdStrike. The market share is devaluing quickly. And so we're seeing a lot of pieces that really don't make sense because if you read the bill, you can't maybe put that template over there on those groups. But when they start yelling, and they're all yelling about the same thing, and that's these tax credits, and we got to hurry and, you know, the pressure that's being put on our counties to push these permits through has probably increased double. from the passing of the bill just to Monday.
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And is this pressure for solar projects and wind projects?
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Pressure for permits and data centers popping up everywhere in neighborhoods. Now, I want everyone to understand the amount of data being processed by these, just a small data center, can process a billion to a hundred billion pieces of information. That's information or data points per day. That's in 24 hours. Now, I don't know about you, but what are they processing? What kind of data and where's it coming from and who owns that data? That's what I'm concerned about because you can't have a data center on every corner. And your data not be involved. I listened to a podcast the other day, and the guy said the average American is being caught on cameras or photographed, average American, 700 times a day. Now, I looked to verify that, that this guy was an AI guy. So obviously, he probably knew what he was talking about because he's on a national podcast. And I just sat back and thought, I don't leave my house very often. But how many electronic devices do I have that are tracking me, transferring my data, footsteps to somewhere and I have no idea? So I think the average American needs a route to say, hey, could I have the list of data you've collected on me? Because I'd like to see my profile. Because they can produce that for you according to people that have dealt with longitudinal projects. But we don't have a recourse for that. But I like your idea of owning your children's data. That site... will get a lot of traction because people will get more concerned as their children get older.
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Well, I think so as well. And last question before we go to break from Richard. He said, ask Virginia why Kansas is always having a Democrat governor. Whoever that person is would always be a roadblock to common sense reform, right? That is correct.
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And we look at know the election of our democrat governor after we had um ultra they like to call it ultra conservative governor who swung through the fences and wanted to get rid of income tax the march to zero instead of incrementally he wanted to march to zero immediately which didn't create a buffer When you do it incrementally, you get there slowly and methodically and reasonably. And when you want to run for president, so you just decide to swing the bat and hit the home run and just go to zero immediately, it had a lot of fallback on businesses. It had a lot of fallback. So the Republican... uh, party really didn't have a message, uh, and didn't have good, um, perhaps they got sidelined on a lot of issues that didn't really garner the kind of importance that it was to maintain a common sense governor, um, that wasn't running for another office and we get Laura Kelly. And Governor Kelly got elected again because the 2020 election, we had a lot of problems with the vote. The vote not making sense and the lockdown. And the amount of money being poured in by Facebook and Dropboxes and a lot of things that we didn't have laws for. Nor did a lot of states. Right. And so, yes, we're very focused on a governor's race. This time around, a governor that makes sense for Kansas, that could have Kansas recover its sovereignty because right now we don't have control of our utilities. And that undermines sovereignty. the American dream for a lot of people, a lot of people in manufacturing, a lot of people in business.
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Absolutely. So, Virginia, we're going to continue the discussion. When we come back, you have done something monumental regarding a lawsuit, and people should be on the edge of their seat. to hear what that is all about. And we have these discussions and as clearly we are an independent voice as Virginia is as well. And that happens because of our sponsors. And Lorne Levy is your expert in mortgages. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. And that seems like that's becoming smarter and smarter day by day.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. They are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. This is the official Marine Memorial. It's located in Golden at 6th and Colfax. And it is so important that we take care of it, that we honor it and support it. And you can do that by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. On the line with me is Virginia Maka. She's the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas. And the text line is busy with lots of questions. But, Virginia, we have limited time and want you to introduce what you are doing from a legal standpoint with a recent lawsuit. So bring us up to speed on that.
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So around June 16th, we entered into an amicus brief hearing. to support a civil case that was in the federal court against solar. And this is 15,000 acres, predicted 15,000 acres. They've got 11,000 acres under contract right now of industrial solar in Jackson County. And that's in Kansas, right? That's in Kansas, Jackson County, Kansas. And the landowners that entered into the civil case are completely surrounded by solar now, by solar leases. And they are executing those leases left and right. So the solar is owned by Jeffrey Solar Project, and their owner is Nextera Energy. If no one knows who Nextera is, they're a global energy conglomerate. they buy and sell utilities and bundle them, such as water, electric, gas. So they're a big player and they came to Kansas and they became a utility. And that is where I first entered this whole thing. But the federal case involved suing Janet Yellen over the IRA tax credits, negating the regulations that the NEPA review should have applied to the implementation of the Inflation Reduction Act that was passed in 22 and the Administrative Procedures Act, the APA, where every government agency, federal agency, has to address NEPA in some shape, way, or form when it comes to implementing laws and hearings on rules. public input on rules, which never happened on these tax credits. So we took on a lot. And Judge Teeter did not rule that day that our injunction was invalid because we asked for an injunction to just say stop. Give us a breather. Let us get a energy plan together for Kansas, for Kansans that fit all Kansans. Instead, we have regional federal regulators running the show here in Kansas. And it's been horrendous on property, eminent domain. It's been horrendous on people surrounded by solar now. And so these tax credits, if you're not familiar, are in the trillions of dollars over the time of these leases to expire. Some of these leases go 40 years. And by 40 years, these industrial solar battery and wind will have completely destroyed the soil, impacted the environment, to a point in Kansas where I'm not sure what Kansas will look like in 20 years in the ag industry, because everything, it seems, goes against our principles of agriculture. So we entered as an amicus brief, and they believe that the amicus brief and the hundreds of people that joined that brief to give the judge a view of it's not just solar, it's transmission, it's wind, it's battery storage, it's data centers, it's all these things we see coming at us that are going to impact our rural communities and our economy here in Kansas. So we provided on a site called friendsofthecourt.com. You can see documentaries of families impacted. You can see people that filed comments for the court to read. And these people are from Kansas. We had a lot of people from other states also comment, but we only submitted those that were pertinent to the Kansas case. Judge Teeter outlined all the maybe missteps the civil case had, and we're ready to go back at it. We don't know the strategy forward. We just got the ruling on July 1st. But she outlined the missteps, which gives us a template to go forward so we can cover those. And I think the biggest thing, in my opinion, that was missing was The Department of Energy should have been a huge factor in this case because of the amount of high-risk loans they're giving these renewable companies and then releasing that money in loans into long-term debt bonds being bought by Vanguard and BlackRock. So you look at a situation like that, which is way above my pay grade, but when I can put papers like that together, it makes me go, oh, like this is much bigger. These tax credits are much bigger. We're into the trillions of dollars, and we see our debt rising every day. So we're not done in the amicus brief. If you'd like to join the amicus brief, from whatever state you're in, from whatever – sector that you want to address, whether it's data centers, whether it's what you see happening to your town. We love comments. All you have to do is leave your zip code so we know where you're from and the area you're from. We can identify the problems there. And as we go forward, I think the amicus brief will become a larger tool that we have in our toolbox. And so that is my hope, is to develop a tool for all of us to use.
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Well, and the goal of Virginia then is to stop, to get rid of these tax credits, right? Because if you get rid of the tax credits, then these things are not economically viable to put these projects in. So that's the goal, yes? The goal is to defund it.
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And when you hurt the defunding they rethink. They find another way. You know, they're always, you know, it was free money. It's our money that they're investing against us, taking our land. And President Trump sees that. And somehow, I think that will be addressed down the line if it's not fully addressed in the bill. While we sort that out, we'll continue on with this case because I think it has legs. And I don't think the judge would have wrote such a probably detailed brief of where we failed to address something. And I think going forward, she just outlined how we go forward. And so I think we have a bat. We just need to learn how to swing it. And I'm ready to go. And there are a lot of people with me on this because they're seeing the end product is that if I could leave your viewers with just a couple of words of wisdom, is start a group of like minds that address your concerns, whether it's solar, whether it's wind, in your community, whether it's government spending or questionable spending in your counties. The power of one begins with the power of you. And that's what helped the amicus spree grow legs in a very short time. These groups were able to connect together and have that information. And it became, in less than an hour, it trended on Facebook, just a small amicus ad. And we had thousands of people coming to the website. We were overwhelmed. But we submitted to the judge those that signed and were commented, you know, in time.
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Virginia, we are out of time. But that website is friendsofthecourt.com. You are a regular American patriot. Thank you. Well, thank you, Kim, for all you do.
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And thank the listeners for really paying attention.
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Absolutely. Locally. Absolutely. Virginia Baca, we'll talk again soon. Thank you, Kim.
In today's episode, Rick Hughes delves into essential aspects of Christian life, including battling the sin nature and the faith rest drill. He emphasizes the dangers of religious traditions that misrepresent God's teachings and stresses the necessity of learning and understanding spiritual gifts for effective ministry. Engaging anecdotes and personal experiences underscore the value of aligning with God's will and offer listeners practical insights into how believers can discern their purpose and make meaningful impacts in their communities.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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good morning and welcome to the flatline I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few minutes stick around it won't be long 30 minutes of motivation some inspiration a whole lot of education and no manipulation no con games no soliciting money not trying to sell you something we just want to give you information information that will hopefully help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life and if you can do that then you always have the freedom to orient and adjust to that plan If you're listening this morning, I would like to inform you that this show that you're listening to today marks 20 years of broadcasting the flight line over America's airwaves. What started as one show broadcast in Birmingham, Alabama has now turned into 120 plus stations every Sunday morning. Today you're hearing show number 1037. That's 1,037 Sundays we broadcast the Flatline Radio Show. Thank you for listening. Thank you for your prayers as well as the encouragement through calls and letters. Let me remind you that we also podcast all of our shows on Apple Podcasts as well as Spotify and a few other podcast venues. And this means that you can hear various shows 24 hours a day, seven days a week from anywhere in the world that's internet service. And none of this would be possible without the grace provisions of our Lord. I say that again, the grace provisions of our Lord. He has been so gracious to me during these years of broadcasting, providing leadership through my board of directors as well as team members who offer services and assistance without charge. We do have two ladies that are on part-time basis who distribute mail and handle bookkeeping services. as well as we maintain an office space locally. Our producer, radio producer, you hear him every show, is Jack. He handles the distribution of shows every week to the stations that we broadcast with. So hopefully you will understand that I am not a one-man show. You might wonder how I knew I was being led by God to enter this arena of contention that I call it. When I was first converted to Christ, I read a scripture in a group Bible study that caught everyone's attention. including mine, and this is the passage. I'll read it to you. Ephesians 6, 19 through 20. Pray for me that utterance may be given unto me that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel for which I am an ambassador in change, that I may speak boldly as I ought to speak. These are the words of the Apostle Paul writing to the saints in Ephesus as he closes out his letter to them. And those words had an impact on my thinking as well as several friends who asked me, did I realize what I just read? At the time, I had no clue what it would indicate, but I claimed that verse as my own. All the enthusiasm, that's right, all the emotion would have had no impact had I not gotten under the teaching of a well-qualified pastor. Because if I was going to have a ministry that would impact lives across America, then I must learn how to effectively proclaim the message of salvation and the spiritual life mechanics of how it works. At the time, I had no idea what God's plan for my life would consist of. But I soon found myself having opportunities to share my story with schools and churches. And as I grew older and travel became tougher, the Lord opened the door for this radio ministry. And now, 50 plus years later, I'm so grateful to still be useful to my Heavenly Father. Two things have been the testimony of my life and they must be yours as well. Those two things are first of all the word trust and secondly the word obedience. Trust and obedience. Listen to the words of King David in Psalm 28 verse seven as he amplifies the trust part. The Lord is my strength and my shield. My heart trusted in him, and I am helped, and with my song I will praise him. My heart greatly rejoices. This statement by David is a clear indication of his complete trust in God's provision for his life. You and I understand this to be what's called the faith rest drill. We know it as problem solving device number three on the flat line of your soul. The question that I need to ask you is do you have the same confidence in God? Because if not, you will encounter many hours of doubt and worry when it's not even necessary. Trust is essential for you to have the faith rest drill. obedience is the other side of the coin where God trusts you. Obedience is a demonstration of your personal love for God. If you do love him, and you say you do, do you love God? That's a legitimate question because in 1 John 5, 3, John wrote these words, this is the love of God. In other words, here's the proof that we keep his mandates and his mandates are not hard. They're not burdensome. This statement is not saying if we love God, we won't sin. That's not what it's saying. Listen to 1 John 1.8, where John wrote these words. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. The Apostle Paul admitted he had a struggle with his sin nature in his letter to the Romans, in Romans 7, 18 through 20. For I know that in me, he wrote, that's in my flesh, nothing good dwells, for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do, but the evil that I will not to do, that's what I practice. Now, if I do what I will not to do, it's no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. Like Paul, you and I, there are things we don't want to do, and we wind up doing them anyhow. The question you may ask yourself is, why do we do it? And Paul said, it's sin that dwells in us. We have a sin-infected nature. And you're not perfect. No one's perfect. All of us fail God from time to time. Thank goodness we can rebound problem-solving device number one and recover from our sin, stay filled with the Holy Spirit, and move on in our spiritual life. But all of us have a sin-infected nature. Now, we all have different lust patterns that can surface and control our thoughts if we allow them to do so. But no pastor, no evangelist, no missionary is free of sin-nature influence. The sad thing is that we often expect individuals like this to be free of sin and its influences in their lives. That's simply not true. However, the greatest failure is when those people who claim to serve God actually misrepresent God by teaching things that are not completely accurate. For example, traditions are hard to break. Organized religion uses ritual traditions to manipulate individuals into following a code that simply does not exist. Listen to Colossians 2.8. Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy or empty deceit according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world and not according to Christ. What is one of the traditions we're talking about? Well, you've got to remember that morality is not spirituality. Even a lost person can be a moral person. But one of the biggest areas of manipulation I find in the society today is giving. No servant of God, no missionary, no pastor, no evangelist is authorized to charge for their message, be it through book sales or through some form of honorarium. Another form of manipulation is emotional appeals. In the early days of my ministry, and that's the early 60s when I first started speaking as a Christian, some in the early 70s, I was taught to get people to come forward in church services if they wished to be saved. Church musicians would often play Just As I Am over and over and over again while I would wait on people to come forward. But when I started speaking to schools and large assemblies with hundreds of kids at a time, I realized I could not give a public altar call to the hundreds in attendance, but I could make the gospel message clear and invite them to receive the Lord Jesus Christ where they sat. Using this approach, I was able to see many students make a private decision to accept Jesus Christ without the need for them to come forward. I always ask them to let somebody know if they did it, be it their pastor or their parents or even a Christian friend. But please tell someone, I would say to them, tell someone what you did in the assembly. and from 1969 to the year 2022 i spoke in hundreds of school assemblies across the southeast even a few as far north as michigan and as far west as colorado these opportunities were extended by the influence of god the holy spirit as he opened the doors for me and provided the means to carry the message. I simply had to be obedient and trust God. There it is. I had to be obedient and trust God. I tell you these things to encourage you in your spiritual life as well and in your particular ministry because every one of us, you, me, and every Christian is in full-time Christian service. All of us are required to teach precisely correct procedure. That's why the Bible says, Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of truth. There's no way that this ministry of the Flatline Radio Show would have existed for the last 20 years if I didn't understand the principles of grace and exactly what is the procedure to live the effective Christian life. So let me ask you this simple question this morning. Do you understand God's purpose for your life? I mean, do you know what his plan for your life is? Do you know that? What is his plan for you? Not only on a daily basis, but where does he want you to serve him? There are three questions every Christian must answer. What does he want me to think? What does God want me to do? And where does God want me to be? Determining these three questions is something each of us must come up to grips with. Thank goodness we have what's called divine guidance in the scripture. Let me quote to you from the book Divine Guidance published by Harvey Themes Jr. Ministries. Here's a quote. As the personal emissary of the Lord Jesus Christ, you represent him effectively after salvation only by obeying God's will for your life. Learning the mandates, categories, and mechanics of divine guidance gives you the basis for doing his will. As you continue to grow to spiritual maturity, you continue to become confident and you know God's will for your life at any time and under every circumstances. That's a wonderful thing to understand, God's will for your life. Some things are directly stated in scripture and some things are determined by the leadership of the Holy Spirit using the insight you gain from studying and applying God's word into your life. For example, I did not hear an audible voice tell me to start a radio ministry. It wasn't like I was out fishing one day or sitting in a tree or driving my truck and God said, start a radio ministry. That did not happen. But it became clear through the encouragement of the Holy Spirit whereby he opened the doors and provided the necessary funding and supporting individuals that would be required to produce the 100 plus shows every Sunday morning. Clearly my gift of evangelism was the key, but that gift would not have been effective had I not understood the mechanics of salvation and spirituality. And so I thank our Lord often for leading me to Baraka Church in Houston, Texas, where I was able to get solid, sound Bible teaching. Likewise, you will never be able to effectively serve your Savior if you don't get accurate instruction from a well-qualified pastor. In Proverbs 1.5, the Bible says a wise man will hear and increase in learning, and a man of understanding, wise counsel. Did you hear that? A wise man will hear and increase learning, and a man of understanding will attain wise counsel. So if you want to be wise and understanding, You need to learn and listen. That's what it's saying. In 2 Timothy 2.15, be diligent to approve yourself to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed. I quoted that already, rightly dividing the word of truth. So God has called both you and me into full-time Christian service. It's not just Rick Hughes on the Flatline radio show. It's you in your home, in your life, in your community, in your church. You are in full-time Christian service just as much as I am. So here's some principles I'd like for you to remember. One, the phrase full-time Christian service means does not imply the narrow view of simply being a pastor, an evangelist, or a missionary, or even a person involved in some Christian service organization. That's not what I'm talking about. It's much more than that, okay? So let's see what point two says here, if I can pull this page apart. Point two, full-time Christian service means more than spending a maximum amount of time performing good deeds or functioning in some extensive system of works. You know, like you help little old lady across the street or you go down to the shelter and feed the homeless. That's great, that's wonderful. Full-time Christian service is much more than that. Three, it's not what you do that counts. but your status quo as a Christian that determines the legitimacy of your Christian service. Service is a result, never a means of fulfilling God's plan. Excuse me. So remember this. If you are not filled with the Holy Spirit when you do these things, they do not glorify God. You can do a right thing in the wrong way and it's just in the energy of the flesh. So let's say like this. If you have unconfessed sin in your life and you go down to feed the homeless or you go to visit someone or you take some money to the poor, that doesn't glorify God if you have the sin nature control. When you're in the flesh, anything you do like that without the sin nature in control, it's called wood, hay, and stubble in 1 Corinthians 3, and it's burned up to the judgment seat of Christ. But the same thing, tithing in your church, giving money to your church, giving money to a missionary, singing, doing whatever you do through your local ministry there in your local church, it can be a right thing, but it can be done in a wrong way and not glorify God For example, if Brother Smith is called upon to pray and he steps up to the pulpit to pray and he hates Brother Jones on the back row and can't stand him, but he prays an eloquent prayer and it sounds all sanctimonious and holy, But that prayer went no higher than the ceiling because the Holy Spirit was quenched and grieved. And the Holy Spirit could not intercede for prayer as the Bible says he's supposed to. He quenched the spirit. He grieved the spirit. So the prayer sounded great. It was totally ineffective because it was prayed from the energy of the flesh. Think about your spiritual life. How many times have you done things that you think glorified God and you think you were doing Christian service and it's just going to wind up being wood, hay, and stubble because you had unconfessed sin in your life at the time? Can't work that way. It's not what you do that counts, but it's your status quo as a Christian must be filled with the Holy Spirit to be an effective believer. That's problem-solving device number two. Problem-solving device number one, rebound, confessing your known sin. Problem-solving device number two, the filling of the Holy Spirit solves the problem of the energy of the flesh. Problem-solving device number three is the faith rest drill or the trust part. So there are five categories of Christian service. Now think about this. Christian service related to your spiritual gift, for example. Every Christian has a spiritual gift. Every one of us does. My gift is a gift of evangelism. I didn't ask for it. I got it when I got saved, and I didn't even know what I had. I didn't know why God was going to use me. You have a spiritual gift. It could be a communication gift like me. You could be an evangelist. You could be a pastor teacher. You could be someone who has a gift of help. You could be someone who has a gift of administration. Somehow, somewhere, your gift functions in the local church to complete the body of Christ. So when someone sees the church and all the gifts working, they see the body of Christ. So you have a spiritual gift and your spiritual gift will not work effectively unless you're filled with the Holy Spirit. So Christian service, point one, related to your spiritual gift. Okay, so what's your gift? Do you even know what your gift is? You should. I mean, it's working whether you know it or not, I promise you, but it would help to know what your gift is because that way you don't waste time spinning your wheels trying to figure it out. Two, Christian service related to your royal priesthood. You are a believer priest. You don't need a priest to pray for you. You are a priest. Example is prayer. Prayer. You can pray yourself. You can go to God the Father and pray yourself as long as you pray correctly. And by that I mean you don't pray to Jesus and you don't pray to the Holy Spirit. You pray to the Father which is in heaven in the power of the Holy Spirit. and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus taught us that, and when he said, when you pray, pray like this in the Bible, our Father which art in heaven. So that's you. You have to pray correctly, and your Christian service is related to your royal priesthood through prayer. And then you have Christian service related to your royal ambassadorship. You're God's representative in the lost world. It's your opportunity to give the gospel to people, to share Jesus Christ, to be a royal ambassador for God. And that's your Christian service. So every day when you step forward out into the world, you can look for an opportunity to share Christ. Some people pass out tracts, some people pass out books, some people talk to people. You are an ambassador of God. Don't fail to talk about the ministry and the work of the Lord Jesus Christ. That's your Christian service related to your royal priesthood, royal ambassadorship. And another example is evangelization of other people, as I just said. 2 Corinthians chapter 5. So then there's Christian service related to your invisible impact. As a believer that is mature, you have a historical impact, an invisible impact on society. Because as goes the spiritual life of believers, so goes the history of the nation. It's not related to who's president. It's not related to who's your congressman or who's your senator. It's related to your spiritual life. As goes your spiritual life, so goes the history of your nation. And your Christian service has to be related to that invisible impact you have in your home, in your community, in your church. The invisible impact of the mature believer is unbelievable. And then there's Christian service related to the laws of divine establishment. Freedom, marriage, family, nationalism. Could be military service. Should a Christian serve in the military? Absolutely, every young man should if they can. Christian service related to voting. It's your responsibility to vote. It's your responsibility to pay your taxes. These are all things you do as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ that glorifies God to the maximum. Christian service in these areas. There's much more to learn about this in regards to God's divine guidance for your life. And I'm gonna try to study this subject a little bit more for more clear understanding in the future. But before I wrap it up, let me give you an illustration. Many years ago, you may have heard me use this illustration, but many years ago I had the privilege of knowing a Medal of Honor winner This particular individual was a retired military Medal of Honor winner who was considering running for senator in the state of Alabama. He had been financially unable to do the gift, and he was talking to me about it, and we were driving in my automobile, and I said, how do you know this is God's will for your life, for you to be a senator in the state of Alabama? And he was taken aback that I would ask him that question. He said, well, how do you know? And so I tried to give him an illustration that I learned many years ago about a ship going into a harbor. If you can picture in your mind a harbor where a lot of ships were docked up at the dock. But in order to get into the harbor, you had to go through a very narrow channel. And it's night. You can't see. And you're up on the bridge with the captain. You say, how do you get in there without running aground in this narrow channel? And the captain says, you see those three red lights? In the bay, I have to line my ship up, the bow of my ship up with those three red lights. And if I keep going straight so I can only see one, I'm safe. But if I see two or see three, I'm off course and I'm about to run aground. I used that analogy to share with him how he could know God's will. From the witness of God's word, the witness of God the Holy Spirit, and the witness of the circumstances. I tell you again, when you want to know God's will, he will speak to you through the Bible, the witness of the word. He will speak to you through the circumstances. You don't have to force it. The doors are open. You don't have to beat them open. And you will have the peace of the Holy Spirit, the witness of the Word, the witness of the Holy Spirit, and the witness of the circumstances. These all three have to line up for you to know it's safe to proceed ahead and not run aground. So this is part of the way you understand what God's will is for your life. It's just a simple little illustration of divine guidance. I'll tell you next week how to order a book called Divine Guidance that a personal friend of mine wrote. It's got some great information in it for you. But as long as you do not understand your gift, as long as you do not understand what Christian service is, you're never gonna be able to fulfill the plan of God for your life. He has a wonderful plan for you. You're still alive, aren't you? You're still breathing. You're still occupying space. So it's essential that you learn the plan of God and you live it. I can tell you this. The plan of God is for you to be saved. I assure you of that. It's not God's will that any should perish, but that all should come to the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If you've never made that decision, It will be the single most significant, important decision of your life. As the Bible says, what thank ye of Christ? Do you believe he's the anointed son of God, that he died on the cross for your sins, that he resurrected from the dead? He's alive today. Are you willing to put your faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross? If so, then you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. You don't have to go forward. You don't have to raise your hand. You don't have to go backwards. You just have to do what the Bible says. believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. So I hope you take that to heart. That's what this show is about, giving you accurate information, not human speculation. Thank you for listening. I hope you'll come back next week. We'll pursue this a little bit further. But until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you, thank you, thank you for listening for 20 years to The Flatline.
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All right, hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 56. Again, no guests this hour. If there's something that you want to talk about or we get onto a topic you want to add to, by all means, call in 303-477-5600. Text line 307-282-22. Both of those ways you can communicate with us, and I do my best to even get the text messages answered back and or talked about on air, and I appreciate that. Okay. Elon Musk, which supposedly there has been paperwork filed, but I have not gone out, looked, verified and so on. But he wants to start his own political party, which whatever. He's a dodo head. I'm sorry. He's one of the smartest guys in the world, except when it comes to politics. And that's kind of true with a lot of people, by the way. They think they've got really great ideas, and maybe he does. The problem is you work inside of a two-party system, which we have in America, and anybody saying we need three is a complete moron. Show me any other place where that works. And the reason why it's silent is because it doesn't. So he can try to do his, you know, America first party or whatever he wants to call it. And reality is it's not going to go anywhere. The American party is what he wants to call it, America party. And I know he's mad. He doesn't like the big, beautiful bill. I'll talk about that here in a moment. I think that's very unwise on his part. What Elon has to understand is, and he should, by the way, given his background in the business world and so on, he of all people should know that every ship is steered with a rudder. The bigger the ship, the longer it takes to turn around. Even though the rudder is doing its job, the bigger the ship, the longer it takes to turn around. If anybody out there should understand that, it should be him. And by the way, that's outside of government. Move inside of government, and the ship gets enormous and even gets harder and longer to turn around. So to come along and just say that Elon's like a lot of other hardcore conservatives, the bill doesn't do enough. Well, they never do. Okay, yeah, by the way, I'm not going to disagree with that. It doesn't cut enough. It doesn't go far enough. I'm right there with everybody that says that. I agree. But you can't get it all in one shot. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. And for those that would say, well, you do it all in one shot, and if you don't win the next election, who cares? Well, that's a really stupid approach. Just burn it all up at one time and then see what happens and maybe get reelected the next time around, maybe not. And for those that would say, well, it'll all get straightened out by then, no, it won't. These changes that we would make right now, people would immediately see the results of and they'll vote for that the next time. No, they won't. No, folks, they won't. Because a lot of you, like I, would take even more benefits away from some of these low-life losers that are on the payroll of you and I. And yes, I meant everything I just said. There are some people that game the system. They know exactly what they can get out of the system, and they use it to their advantage, and I'm sick and tired of paying their way. I'm one of those taxpayers, yes. And I'm tired of it. But I also know this. Are you going to be able to cut them all off tomorrow? No, you can't. As much as I would love to, you can't. It's not going to happen. It's an unrealistic expectation. It's not going to happen. So what you do is you have to work within the boundaries that you have and do the best job that you can and try to move the needle in that way, which is what this bill is doing. Now, did it get everything done and did it get everything in it that everybody wanted? No, no. Some wanted a lot more. Some wanted a lot less. Some wanted changes in some places, not others. Point being, you're not ever going to get everything you want. And Elon has to understand that, but Elon doesn't understand that is the problem. Again, smart guy. I'll give him credit all day long. He has done wonderful when it comes to the things that he has done business-wise and even what he did in his attempt with Doge to come in and get all sorts of things straightened out in regards to us and our spending and so on. I get that. Cutting a lot of fraud and waste out. And I wish he could have stayed and just kept going. But even that is unrealistic. It's not going to happen. It should, by the way, it should happen, but it's not going to. And it's an unrealistic expectation to think that it's going to. So Elon, like a lot of other people, needs to understand that in Washington, even though you're a guy that's worth $400-plus billion, you can't get these things done as quickly as he wants them done, and I wish you could. So, again, I appreciate Elon. I appreciate all of the work that he's done. I appreciate what he did in getting Trump reelected this last time. Do I think his America Party is totally the wrong way to go? Yes, I do. And if he were in the studio with me today, I would tell him the same thing, and he would have to prove to me why he thinks it's going to go anywhere. You're not going to take a third party and do anything. All it'll do is siphon away votes from, in this case, our side. You're not going to make inroads at all. So while he thinks he may, you know, in his mind, I guess he thinks he'll have enough momentum and so on to really get this thing taken off. And maybe I'm not giving enough credit. Maybe he will, but I just don't see that happening. And time will tell, but I don't see him taking this thing and having it amount to anything when it's all said and done. And I think part of that for me is because others have tried. Other rich people, not as rich as him, of course, but other rich people have tried and failed. From the Green Party to who was Ross Perot's party back in the day when he went off on his own? Charlie, do you remember? Some of you that are listening and know Ross better than I can remember those days better than I. Tell me what his was. But again, Ross at that time was a very rich individual. Maybe not to the same level that Elon Musk is, but he was pretty rich. and had a lot of clout, and tried to do third party, and all it did was screw things up at the end of the day. It did not help us. It didn't help the conservative movement out at all. In fact, it put the conservative movement back in time, in my opinion. That's all those types of movements do is take us off track and actually gives the other side an edge that they can now use. And no, it does not work out at the end of the day. So let's do this. Golden Eagle Financial up next. Al did an interview here of late. Listen in. 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This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
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Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it's still going to take money to live on once I'm retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that's going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it's also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it's equally important to think about how they're going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
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You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
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Well, sure. I have one gentleman who is very much into aviation. He owns his own small plane. He actually works on that small plane. He's within a few years of retirement. He's retirement age. But right now, while he's working, he takes his small aircraft, flies to locations where he investigates air disasters. I also have some people who spend a lot of time with their grandkids, some of whom live nearby and some are a little farther away. I have some who are incredibly involved with their churches and go on missionary trips and so forth.
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How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
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They can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if they're driving when they hear this, you can contact KLZ and they'll put them in touch with me.
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Of course, as always, you can find Golden Eagle Financial on klzradio.com slash advertisers and get right in touch with Al if you're driving and can't write that number down. Al, thank you so much for joining us today.
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You're welcome.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, really quick. Somebody asked me a question. If Elon had Trump as a VP to back him up, would he have a chance? Trump seems to have accumulated a smart cabinet. No, I don't think so. I don't know. That's a great question. If Elon had Trump as VP to back him up, would he have a chance? Well, number one, I don't think Elon would ever do that. Just not in his wheelhouse. He's not going to go full-time on government in any way, shape, or form. And, yes, Trump did assemble a very smart cabinet at the end of the day. Johnny, go ahead, sir.
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Yeah, and you think, like, you've got these two alpha men.
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Yes.
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That just doesn't mix that well. Because you've got to have a leader and you've got to have a follower.
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That's right.
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And right now— And neither one will do that. Yeah. But I was just thinking, like, Elon Musk, you know, he came to the United States at a certain time, and then we remember, like, what happened with Ross Perot, tried to, you know, another party. And then even back when the Democrats and the Uyghurs and the Republicans, that third—it seems like that third person in the wheel just doesn't seem to— Get enough momentum to push it over the top.
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Nope. Nope. Johnny, you are spot on. I had a couple of texts in as well. Johnny saying the exact same thing that you're saying, that if, in fact, this gets off the ground and gets any momentum, it's a guaranteed Democrat win.
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Yeah, and somehow that part of history doesn't click with him because he has a great mind. But sometimes the alpha and the ego and all that kind of stuff sometimes gets in the way.
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Ross Perl, really quick, I looked it up because I couldn't remember, Johnny. The Reform Party of the United States of America, he formed his own party, called it the Reform Party. So I think what Elon is not looking at is history, Johnny, because none of these have ever worked.
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Yeah, and everybody will say, well, this time it worked, just like communists. They say, well, they didn't do it right, but this time it worked.
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Nice. I mean, Johnny, I mean, I love these people and I love their heart and I love Elon. And I and I know he's he wants what like you and I and others. He does want what's best for America. And I get that. And he keeps talking about how, you know, he wants to make sure the Second Amendment stays in full force and on and on we go. And and I get all of that. And I know he's got the right heart for it. But the problem is heart doesn't change. at the end of the day how politics works, and you've got to work inside of the system that we have, because I'm afraid to say, Johnny, we don't have enough time. The country now has gotten too big to come out and try to revamp everything.
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And when he lost in 2020, I mean, I was sad about that, but after looking back on it, I said that was good because he had a time to say, Trump is a winner. So he said, if I'm going to do this again, I'm going to win. And he had that time, that four year span to build what he has now. And if he would have went back to back, I don't think We would have been as far as we are now.
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I agree. You know what? You made a great point. And I've had others that have called in and talked about that as well. And I agree with that, Johnny. I think the four years off have given or did give Donald Trump the ability to really do some regrouping and looking at things in a much different light than what he would have done any other way.
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All right. So that's all I got.
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Johnny, you're always great. I appreciate the input and spot on. And a lot of you are texting, and thank you, by the way. I appreciate that. Nobody has yet texted and said, nope, great idea. He has a chance of making this thing work, and he'll drive that party forward, and he'll have great success. Not one texter has said that. And the reason for that is because he won't. It won't happen. And keep in mind, as I said earlier, Charlie reminded me of this. The left has had some of their own dismal failures along these lines as well to where they've come up. We know they're there. What was it, Charlie? No, no, no labels and so on. Yeah, those those parties have done nothing. Zilch. In fact, what I will tell you they do is they just suck money that could be spent in other ways. And Elon is going to realize this. You're better off taking the money. What Elon would be best off doing, by the way, is forget the national stage. If Elon really wanted to make change, he would do what George Soros has done. And that is go into a lot of local communities and support a lot of local causes and a lot of local politicians that have the ability to change things from the ground up versus the other way around. If Elon was really smart and if I had the ability to sit here and consult with him for a moment, I would tell him that the way he's looking at it is completely backwards. He's looking at it from top down, and he needs to look at it from bottom up. He needs to do the exact same thing with his money that a George Soros has done and go in and help DAs get elected and help AGs get elected and help mayors get elected in certain areas. in certain cities and towns, townships and county commissioners, and, and, and we go. Because the reality is the more change you get to happen there, that will work its way out into the populace, and you'll make bigger changes on the national stage. He's going about it the wrong way. And I'm not going to say that George Soros is smarter than Elon Musk by any means, because I don't think he is. Not that George Soros is dumb, by the way, because he wouldn't make billions of dollars either if he was dumb, just like Donald Trump wouldn't make billions of dollars if he were dumb. None of the three of them are dumb. But I can tell you on an IQ scale, Elon Musk probably has the other two beats substantially. And what Elon should be looking at is what George Soros did, which is what I'm saying, and he did that approach. And you've got to give credit where credit's due. Did George Soros make huge inroads when it came to moving his party forward on a local level? Absolutely. Absolutely he did. He is the biggest reason why we in Colorado struggle with moving our needle back over to the red side because of George Soros and the likes of him. There's been others in this state that have been influential as well. Pat Stryker and others and, you know, the gang and so on. But let's let's face it. George, in a lot of ways, gave them the recipe already. on how to do this and why we aren't doing this is beyond me. I've always wondered that. Why can't we take somebody like an Elon Musk that has gobs of money and has the ability to go on a nationwide basis, go to especially blue states, hard blue states, Colorado, Oregon, Washington, California, even Arizona now to a certain degree, New Mexico. I can keep running down the list, folks. I'm just talking about the ones so far in the West. Start going east and there's even more. But concentrate on those states that you know you could make some really good solid inroads into and start making significant changes in leadership in those states. And before you know it, you've changed things. And why Elon isn't thinking along those lines, I don't know. I don't know who advises Elon, if anybody. As Johnny said a moment ago, you've got two alphas, Trump and Elon. If there's credit anywhere, it's that Donald Trump does have people around him that I do believe he listens to, and he does listen to the political end of things, and to his credit, he has, and that's why he won the last election. Elon hasn't figured that out yet. He's too, quote-unquote, green in politics to understand some of what I just said. Again, smart guy, probably one of the smartest guys on planet Earth, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that, folks. I mean that. He's a very, very, very smart individual, except when it comes to politics. He doesn't understand the political machine, or maybe he does, and his ego is so big that he thinks with my money and my talent and what I can do, I can flip that around and turn it around, and I'm bigger than it, and I can turn it around. No, even though he's worth $400 billion, he doesn't come close to the behemoth in GDP and the wealth and the entirety of what the United States of America is and its government. And as much influence and power as Elon has, and he has a lot, he doesn't even scratch the surface of what I just said a moment ago. You take all the politicians in Washington, and I don't know if this has been done yet. I should ask AI this. Add up all of their wealth, every politician in Washington, all of the lobbyists that are there, all of the ancillary people that are there, all of the people that serve on boards of Big Pharma and the like. I mean, add all of them up, and it's got to be in the trillions of dollars. It's dwarfing anything close to what Elon has right now, even though he's worth $400 billion. That's the thing, what I said a moment ago, Elon's not thinking through. He thinks it's just him and, oh, yeah, I can go flip government around. I'll start this new party and I'll get it corrected. No, he won't. No, he won't. And by the way, everything I just said applies to what happens here in Colorado, which we have a party here in Colorado that hasn't figured out what I've said. We're going to now have infighting in Colorado as to who the next vice chair will be. And it's just ridiculous the direction that we're headed. I mean, it's just utter stupidity. Sorry, I have no other way to say it. Utter stupidity. We've got people wanting to run for office in Colorado that will do nothing but get in and screw things up and make it worse than it already is. So we have people that, just like Elon, don't understand how things work. They don't understand what's in front of them, and they really don't have any solid plan on how to get things done other than their own rage, like Elon is doing right now. Other than his own madness in what's going on, he's upset. He doesn't like the way things are going, so he's going to fix it his way. We have the same thing going on in the state of Colorado. They're doing the exact same thing. Because the ball's not being played the way I want it to be played, I'll get in there and change the game. No, you won't. All you're going to do is screw it up even worse, and that's all Elon's going to do in this particular case. He'll just screw things up more so by having a third party than if he were to leave it alone and back what I was talking about earlier. And what he needs to do is just take his focus completely off the national stage and move locally. Governors. I mean, take Colorado, for example. The next governor of Colorado. Could Elon have a big impact upon the state of Colorado and put a red governor in place next time around if he really hustled and got after it and got behind some folks here in Colorado and they came up with some good strategy and we found a really great candidate and, and, and? Would that work? Yes, it would. I believe it would. Run enough ads, get in front of enough people, do enough things to where you could get that person out in front of enough people. Could you win in Colorado? Yes, you could. But we're not doing that. we even on our side of the aisle struggle with even who we're going to run. How are we going to even get that done? Everybody's got their favorite candidate. Who's going to rise to the top? And I hate to say this, but I'm going to. I don't believe we have anybody right now that's thrown their hat in the ring that will beat the Democrats. That person hasn't shown up yet. And some of you are going to be mad at me for saying that, but that's the truth of the matter right now. No one has thrown their hat in the ring right now that can do it. And there's some great people that have put their hat in the ring. So this is not a personal attack against any of them. So nobody take it that way. That is not what I'm saying. Nothing against anybody that's thrown their hat in the ring. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And just so that I could familiarize myself with who's thrown their hat into the ring for a Colorado governor, I went through the list again. I'm not going to go through each one of these and name off names and the reasons why I don't think they have the ability to win, but I'm going to stand by what I said a moment ago. I don't see a single person on this list on our side, and there's some people on there that I love dearly, that I have a ton of respect for, And I'm just saying straight up, I don't see them having a chance. I'm sorry to say. And I'm honestly saddened to say that. And there's some again, there's some fabulous people, great people, solid conservative people. I cannot you know, I can't argue with any of their their stances on things, their beliefs and things and so on. But can they beat who could easily end up being it's going to come down to on the Democrat side, by the way, it'll come down to either Michael Bennett or Phil Weiser, one of those two. And they both will be heavily funded. They will have the complete political machine in this state on their side. They will have all of the press, well, not all, but a good portion of the press in Colorado on their side, you know, from the Kyle Clarks on down. There won't be anybody else that will even come close to competing with them as far as all of that side is concerned. You'll have most publications and websites that are operated in this town or around this town, by the way, on their side. I can go down the list. This is a huge machine that we are going up against. And while I don't like either one of those individuals, I think they're both beatable individuals, by the way, but not with the people we have. Michael Bennett, in my opinion, is probably one of the weakest Democrat candidates ever, but he is well-funded. He, of course, has been in the Senate for quite some time, stumbled into that position, by the way, but he's nonetheless still a senator, and he did win the last time around because we, on our side of the aisle, couldn't get things figured out, so we blew a huge chance. And, yes, I blame a lot of you on the right for that. You were the problem. Ron Hanks, I can blame all of it on you, by the way. A large portion of it on you, and I will. You're the reason we still have Michael Bennett as a senator. You alone. You and your cronies. You're it. Anybody wants to argue on that? Lines are open. Argue with me. Tell me I'm wrong. 303-477-5600. He is the largest person to blame for the reason we still have Michael Bennett as a senator. Now, he's going to drop out of that, I guess, and run for governor here in Colorado. And he'll primary against Phil Weiser, who Phil, by the way, is our attorney general, who I remind everybody all the time I don't think has ever been to court. Prior to becoming AG of Colorado, he's never tried a case in his whole life as an attorney, yet he's our attorney general. And he's big on suing the federal government and rolling his power around and acting like a big shot, when prior to him running for AG, no one even knew who he was. But because, once again, our side couldn't get its head out of its you-know-what and figure out what we were doing and run the right people, we lost the AG side of it as well. We're our own worst enemy in this state when it comes to Republicans. And by the way, I continue to see all the different social media posts and so on. I do my best to not follow some of that stuff because it's all utter nonsense. But the reality is we haven't fixed any of it. We're no better now than we were six months ago. Other than we don't have a chair trying to undermine the entire party. I mean, that's the only good thing, I guess, is different now than it used to be. We've got a person running for co-chair or for vice chair that will undermine everything in the state, just like his predecessor did or his female predecessor did. So that I can tell you that it'll be the vice chair to all. You'll just go from from hope to a different knucklehead. So those of you that are on that side, man alive. You're so passionate, you're crazy. I don't know how else to say it. You're so passionate, and I love your passion, but you're so passionate, you're crazy. You haven't figured out any of what I've just said for the past 15 minutes. So anyways, we need to do some really hardcore work and searching for some good, solid candidates. And there's already a ton that have thrown their hat in the ring on our side. And again, great people. Some of them I know on a personal basis. Some of them I have sat next to in this studio more than once. And I love them. They're good people. But I'm sorry, they're not going to have what it takes to win against either one of those individuals I just mentioned, because it'll be one of those two. Most likely be Michael Bennett. Most likely will be him. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that, because he is a well-oiled, well-funded machine and has won enough elections in the past that will know exactly what to do, exactly what to say, what babies to kiss, the whole nine yards. He will know exactly what to do, and he will do it. Charlie, I have no other, I don't know what else to say. He knows the routine, and he will work it, and he's got everybody else on his side press-wise to do so. Charlie's in here nodding his head, agreeing with me, because that's what we're up against, folks. And the left knows this. Trust me, the left knows this. Now, did they handpick either one of them? I would venture to guess that especially with Michael Bennett, Somebody came along and said, you know, we need you to run for governor. Yeah, you could win the Senate seat again, most likely, but we can find somebody else that can run on the Senate seat, and you'll win that one. You could win that one again no matter what, but you know what? You really need to be governor of Colorado. Let's get that done instead. My gut feeling is somebody—I think Phil, personally, my guess is he did that one all on his own. I doubt seriously whether anybody at the DNC end of things gave the nod of approval for Phil to run. This is me talking, but I would be hard-pressed to believe that that's the case. I think Phil did that one on his own. I think he threw his hat in the ring all on his own. I highly doubt he had any kind of orchestration from anybody on a national basis from the Democrat National Party. Michael, though, guarantee he's got the nod of approval from the national guys. Yep, Michael, we will help do whatever we need to do to get you elected. Guaranteed, that's what's going on right here. Guaranteed. Meaning, if I'm right, Phil has no chance. Sorry, folks. I'm predicting that one already, right now. If what I just said is true, and I would venture to guess I'm right, Phil has no chance. And Michael will be their candidate on their side, and that's who we'll run against next November. So we'll see how that all comes out, how it comes to light. But we've got a lot of work to do on our side because, no, folks, we don't have anybody yet on our side that I feel is a big enough player to handle going up against those guys. So big, beautiful bill. Now, what I want to do is I'm going to take some highlights from the big, beautiful bill, which was signed. And again, I know, folks, it didn't go far enough. A lot of people felt that way. I'm one of them. I wish we would have done more as far as cuts and so on. But on the positive note. The extension of the 2017 tax cuts took place. So they're going to go ahead and continue those on, those lower taxes for a lot of people. And, again, I don't like the way those were done the first time around either because I think people got tax cuts that shouldn't have but did. But regardless, those are going to move forward. They were set to expire, by the way, this December, but they will stay. There are some cuts to Medicaid. Now, keep in mind, I'm reading from sources where I tried to get the best information I could as highlights to the big, beautiful bill. So most of these are coming from national organizations. In this case, they're saying steep cuts to Medicaid. Actually, it's not as steep as they'd want you to believe. The cuts are over 10 years, and they're not near enough. We've talked about that with Dr. Kelly and Steve House on Thursdays. I'll probably get into that a little bit more with them this coming Thursday, but no, it doesn't do enough to cut. And you're going to hear all sorts of political analysts inside of the leftist media talking about how, oh, you're going to lose this benefit, you're going to lose that benefit, all the old people won't have insurance anymore. It's all lies, 100% lies, not true. There are going to be some people that might have to go work 80 hours a month, by the way, which is 20 hours a week on average or less because there's 4.33 weeks in a month, so it's less than 20 hours a week. Figure 19 and some change probably. Reality is there won't be that many that lose out. And my feeling is there's people that should be working that shouldn't be on Medicaid anyways that need to get off of Medicaid that my tax dollars are supporting. And, yes, there should have been steeper cuts. That's, again, that's a whole other conversation that we could get into that we could go down that rabbit hole for a while. But bottom line, you're going to hear the left talk about how bad it is and how many people are actually going to lose their insurance. And, frankly, folks, it won't be near enough. As I've said before, there are people in Colorado right now, families, making $75,000 a year that have an option of being insured by their company, but because Medicare is free, they don't. They don't. They let you and I pay for it. And these aren't poor people. Now, granted, I know it takes a lot more than that to live comfortably in Colorado, but you're also not in the soup line. You're making 75 grand as a household. And you have a job. You've even got a job where that company will offer you insurance of some kind, but you don't take it because you have a better option with Medicare or Medicaid, I mean, where I'm paying the bill. That needs to end. That's the kind of stuff that should end, shouldn't be happening, should have never happened in the first place. I'm not going to talk much about the SALT deductions. We'll get into that more tomorrow with Jordan Goodman. Cut to food benefits. They have added in, they've done some reforms to the supplemental nutritional assistance program, also known as SNAP. It's used by 40 million low-income Americans. By the way, that number is way too high. Way too high. So there's some changes coming into the government. We continue to fully fund the benefits for states that have an error payment rate below 6%, but states with a higher error rate would be on the hook for anywhere from 5% to 15% of the program cost. In other words, get your crap together, states. Figure this stuff out. That change, by the way, wouldn't come along until 2028. We are going to boost our money spent on defense and the border itself, getting the fence built, the wall, all of those things done, which, by the way, I am all for. That alone is reason enough to boost that end of things. And then Trump wants to build the Golden Dome over the U.S., which, by the way, I think is long overdue. Should have done that a long time ago. Iron Dome. Iron Dome over the U.S. Should have done it a long time ago. You guys have all heard about this, and there's lots of misinformation out there, by the way, from what certain people consider to be influencers from the left that are dead wrong. They'll talk about how there's no tax on overtime or tips, but that those are cash and those aren't taxed anyways. They're completely wrong. They'll also tell you that, oh, well, if you get a credit card tip, that's not a cash tip, so that doesn't apply. Yes, it does, actually. The IRS considers even a credit card tip a cash tip. So still will not be any overtime on that, or there won't be any taxes on that. So you're going to have people, again, there's all sorts of influencers, quote-unquote, people that are out there, even in media, that think they know about this stuff, but they don't. They haven't actually read what even the IRS considers a tip and how that works. These would actually, though, expire in 2028. That's something else to remember is there's a reprieve here for these workers. But it's not permanent. This is basically a three-year reprieve. They have reduced the clean energy incentives, thank God. You don't need to be spending money in those areas anyways. So they did reduce that. And there's all sorts of legalities that run into if you've got a project and it's gotten started, how much of it will continue to be funded, you know, and, and, and. These are all things that you can go read on your own. So Bill was signed into law at 5 o'clock on July 4th, Independence Day. I believe they did it at 5 o'clock Eastern Time. And these things will slowly take place according to how things were spelled out. And again, some of these things you will not see any effect of for years. 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All right, some of you texting in some things regarding how some of these things will actually work and be incorporated, how the IRS will actually handle the tipping side of things and so on. And I have not dug deep into all of that yet and figure there will be more information coming out on that. And what I've read is in some cases, there's not even necessarily tax code to go along with some of these changes that are being made. And IRS might even have to come up with some new rules and so on when it comes to some of these things. So I am not going to talk about any of that until we get a little bit further along and know exactly how that's going to work. So I don't know, by the way. No idea. All right. One other thing that's news today, and this one, I don't know where this is going to head. And I don't really have a solid opinion on this one way or the other. There are some people like Musk that are super upset at the DOJ coming out and talking about the Epstein end of things. And there's no client list. There's no real credible evidence. They're claiming that, yes, in fact, he did commit suicide inside of the cell, etc., And there are some conservatives that, like Elon, that are just upset over this coming out. I guess I don't have an opinion because I haven't seen any of the documentation myself, so I can't give you an opinion one way or the other. I don't know. I really don't. Now, I also will tell you this. I don't know that I've ever really cared. We all know there were people that Epstein was involved with. Those people know who they are. Will the rest of the world ever find out? I have no idea. I highly doubt it, by the way. I think there are those on our side of the aisle that wish there would be some sort of a list published so that anybody that's on the list that's on the left, which, by the way, there's probably some guys on the right that are there as well. But I think the hope is that there's folks on the left that will be so damaging because their name is on the list that it'll change the way the outcome of certain elections are so on. No, it won't. No, it won't. I'm sorry, folks. It won't. So for those like Elon that want to see everybody's, if in fact there is a list, and they want to see whose name is on the list because they think somehow it's going to change things politically, no, it won't. Some of you are saying, no, John, come on, you're crazy. It'll have a huge outcome. No, it won't. And here's why. The voters don't care. Let me repeat that. The voters don't care. We care. I care. You guys that are listening care. But the average person voting, they don't care, nor will they even know about it. They don't care. So let's say that, you know, I don't know. Let's throw this out there, because I was talking about Michael Bennett earlier, and I have no idea if his name is on the list. So I'm going to preface this. I don't know if his name is on the list. I don't even know if there is a list. DOJ says there isn't. But let's just say, for example... Michael Bennett, who's going to be running for governor of Colorado. Let's say his name is on the list because of his background and what he's done in Washington and so on, the fact that he's been around for a while. But Phil Weiser, who's our AG, who hasn't been in politics as long and probably has no affiliation whatsoever with Epstein, let's say his name's not on the list. Do you really think at the end of the day it's going to change the outcome of the election in Colorado? It will not have any bearing on it at all. Zilch. Phil could even run commercial after commercial through the primary season talking about the fact that Michael Bennett's somehow tied to Epstein. Folks, at the end of the day, it's not going to matter. I'm sorry to say that it won't make any difference. Not a hill of beans. And some of you are right now yelling again at me. You've probably been yelling at me a lot today for some of the things that I have said, but you're yelling at me right now thinking that, yep, that would have a huge issue. It would have a huge impact. No, it won't. No, it won't. Voters don't care. We care. I care. Again, you guys care. And there are certain people even inside of the party, and I think there's even certain voters that care, but not enough to make any difference. Not enough to overcome those that don't care. And so you're thinking, geez, John, how could nobody care? This guy was a known, you know, pedophile and, you know, he's running young girls around and you had certain people, you know, certain politicians that were going to the island to have sex with young girls and blah, blah, blah. Again, folks, I'm sorry. I get it. And I don't like it any more than you do. But the voter doesn't care. The voter doesn't care. At the end of the day, you know, here's what the voter cares about. What are you going to do for me? See, that's what our side hasn't figured out yet. That's all the voter cares about. The voter doesn't care about his principles, her principles. They don't care about that. They don't care that they went to the island or didn't go to the island. Doesn't matter. Here's what the voter cares about, especially those that are voting for governor here in Colorado. What are you going to do for me? How are you going to help me? What's in this for me? I say it all the time, and most politicians I don't think believe me, but every politician should have this written on their forehead, and they should remember it. What's in it for me? Because that's what the voter has written on their forehead. What's in it for me? With them, we call it. What's in it for me? If our side would start realizing that and understand that's what the market is, we might start winning. But see, here's what our side does. Here's what the conservative movement in Colorado does especially. We want to write and force feed. what we think that person needs to be voting for. We want, we really, I hate to say it this way, but we really want to take their free thinking away and force feed into them what they should be voting for. Second Amendment, no abortion, you know, all rights for everyone. You know, your human life, I should say, you know, human life rights, whether that's old or young. You know, freedom at all costs. The rule of law. I mean, I can go down the list of the things that our side believes in, which I believe in greatly. But our side, rather than leading somebody along those lines and trying to convince them these are the things that they should be thinking about, we want to force feed it. Doesn't work that way. That's why I'm telling you that it doesn't make a hill of beans a bit of difference whether this list exists or not and whose name is on it or not. Won't matter. Zilch. Zero. Has no issue. 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All right, in closing, somebody asked me if John Elway ran as a conservative, would he have a chance of winning in Colorado? I think he's got a better chance than anybody else on the list, but no, that's not a shoo-in because, unfortunately, you've got a whole other young class now of voters that know who he is but don't know him like the rest of us do. So that's a factor for an old guy like John that you'd have to consider in all of this. We'll be back tomorrow. Same time, same place. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right. Happy Monday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. The Monday after the long 4th of July weekend, Independence Day weekend. Some of you maybe had more time off than others. Some may have taken several days off like I did. Some might not have taken much off at all. Lots of things did happen. Though we'll talk about a lot of those things today, including the flooding in Texas. I had several people texting even and knowing we do ready radio on Fridays asking, could we even talk about some of the things that you should or shouldn't do if you're caught in a particular situation like that? We've had flooding in Colorado and it can definitely happen here or really anywhere in our listening audience when there's mountains or in the case of Texas flatland. Yeah, flooding can happen depending upon, you know, storm tracks and things along those lines. So, yes, we will definitely get into that. That was my plan today, but I appreciate you guys, you know, asking that because it, A, means that what I had for today fit in well anyways, and I appreciate you asking. And I will, if I don't get all of it covered today, and I probably won't, I can get into more detail on that. We'll have a full hour on Friday on Ready Radio from 2 to 3 right here that myself and Bill Anderson, he'll join me as well. We can get into some of that on Friday. Real quick question of the day today. It wasn't one from Friday because it was a holiday, of course, Independence Day. Why do so many country names end in Stan? Why do so many country names end in Stan? That is the question of the day today. Answer that on our Facebook page. And then Charlie always asks me, and we haven't really discussed much yet because I just saw him a few seconds ago before coming into the studio, but, you know, what did I learn from vacation and went to, no secret, went to Mexico, which I enjoy doing. quite honestly because the service there is second to none better than anything here and i mean that sincerely and some would say gosh why would you go to mexico for something like an independence day celebration knowing that you're going to a foreign country well let me give you guys all a little tip They actually – now, I don't know if every single resort is this way, but we've been to several different resorts over the Fourth of July holiday, over the Independence Day holiday, over the past several years. Because for me, it's a great time of the year to take off because the week prior and even like today, I had several guests lined up for today's program that – canceled because things from the weekend run long and even charlie was talking about before coming on air there's so many people traveling even today coming back from the weekend that again i had people scheduled for today that are not here because they got tied up and i had to schedule them for later in the week but all that being said I will tell you right now that, again, the resorts that we have stayed at in Mexico, and we've been in different areas of Mexico from Cancun to Cabo, and I will tell you they do a better job, and this is not an exaggeration, they do a better job of celebrating Independence Day than any resort. Well, maybe not any because I've been to all the resorts in America, of course, but I would say on average they do a better job of celebrating Independence Day than most resorts in America do. which is really sad and shouldn't be that way. The resort we were at, they even did a little speech during the day where they got on the loudspeaker and talked about how grateful they were for all of the people that were there and for the USA and the fact that if it hadn't been for those early founding fathers and the sacrifices that they had made, our country wouldn't exist. And I'm thinking to myself that entire time, by the way. Number one, these are people that know their market. They know the majority of the people that are staying at their resort. Yes, a lot of Europeans go to Mexico, but the majority of people that go to Mexican resorts are Americans. And they know their market. Andy and I were texting early this morning proving the point that you need to know your market if you're going to succeed, something that at times I'm not sure our political party really understands, especially in this state. They don't know the market. Well, in this case, they do. And celebration was great. I will tell you straight up, one of the best Fourth of July celebrations that I think I've been involved in in quite some time. The fireworks were great. The decor was great. The little speech that, you know, you hear a Spanish guy that's got broken English, you know, talking about the sacrifices that our founding fathers made to make this country great, make it what it is today. And then throughout the years, all the sacrifices that have been made. I'm thinking this guy gets it better than a lot of liberals in this country do. And he doesn't even live here. Now, did he have to say that? Maybe he's a worker. Maybe he was supposed to. But it didn't sound like it was something that he was just reciting. It sounded like it was something he was actually saying and not reading from a script. Because you could tell there was a couple of times he made a couple of errors in what he was trying to get out, and he had to correct himself because of his, again, broken English. But just did a phenomenal job. And I thought to myself, A, they know their market, right? And the other thought that I had, which I'm weird, I think about certain things at certain times and it's just the way my brain works, but I'm thinking to myself, you know, without America and capitalism that came with it, really, and yes, I understand there's other countries and there's money that are made in other countries and so on, but realistically, it's because of America and capitalism and the wealth that we as a country have that there are even resorts all around the world, including Mexico. A lot of those places, even these workers, which I do think the workers do understand this, if it wasn't for Americans coming down there spending their money, they wouldn't have jobs, or they'd have a lot less job than they have there, which in the case of most resorts, they make a really good base wage, and if they work on tips any way, shape, or form, depending upon how well their service is, which typically is very good jobs, they actually do fairly well for themselves it's the reason why uh one resort we go to in particular i've been going there for well over a decade and been seeing the same faces since then to the point that they know me when i come in that's impressive and i'll tell you that service just doesn't exist in most places in america i'm sorry to say it just doesn't exist here People don't care. I think a lot of people, even in that industry, don't particularly care for their job. They're doing it as a stepping stone to go someplace else. Whereas in other countries, i.e. Mexico, it is their main form of income. They enjoy what they do. They like the income that they're making. No, they don't want to pack up and come to America, because if they did, they would have. They're fine with what they're doing. They enjoy their life. They enjoy their family. And by the way, some of that I know because I ask. I'm one of those people where I'll just straight up ask, you know, have you ever thought about coming to America? Oh, no, I like it here. I like my family. This is where my home is. You know, a lot like the rest of us are with our homes. And I think there's this misconception that everybody outside of the U.S. wants to come to the U.S. That's not the case. Some do, yes, but not all. And my whole point a moment ago was without America and our freedoms and the things that we have generated over the last 250 years, it's because of that and even what our founding fathers did early on. You heard the stand a moment ago and Mr. Crawford Sr. talking about that. Had it not been for America and what we have done, most of these places that are around the world resort-wise, frankly, I don't think would exist. The world today would look completely different than it does. And for those of you that are on the left that don't believe me, think about this. And I've talked about this many, many times on this program. You wouldn't have had all of the technological advancements even that the world now enjoys had it not been for the United States of America. Period. No, Europe wouldn't have done it. No, China wouldn't have done it. No, Japan wouldn't have done it. No, Germany for sure wouldn't have done it because if they hadn't been defeated in World War II, most of the world would be speaking German and we'd still be stuck in that era. Because the reality is they weren't thinking long term, and they didn't believe in freedom the way we do, and no other country has. And we're slowly losing it. We'll talk about some of that today. But the reality is we need to get some of that back, and we need to remind people of some of the things I just said a moment ago, that even other countries – wouldn't have what they have if it wasn't for the United States of America. And as I was sitting there listening to this young man, and you can tell he wasn't very old, talking the way he was, I was thinking to myself, these resorts and the things that we all get to go and enjoy, they wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the United States of America. The wealth that we have provided as a country that has literally spread worldwide wouldn't exist otherwise. had our founding fathers not did what they did some 250 plus years ago. So as you go through even kind of reflection upon, you know, Friday and even head into next year, which is going to be a big one, 250 years next year will be the biggest celebration we probably have had in a country in a long, long time. And it'll be interesting to see how things develop, what certain cities do, who gets on board, who doesn't. I can tell you right now, most likely red cities will be all on board, red states, and the blue ones won't do much of anything. Because it's the way it is. Because the blue side, sorry, the Marxist side, it hates America. It wants America to fail. It would argue with everything that I just said to a very large extent and wouldn't believe anything that I just said when it comes to how America has helped the rest of the world. The Marxist movement doesn't believe that at all. They are so anti-American. It's ridiculous, and I'll talk about a few of those things today. So I'll take a break. We're going to come back. I am going to talk about the Texas floods and some of what you guys texted and asked me. 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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on today?
SPEAKER 13 :
John, when you were talking about how the rest of the world has benefited from the United States, Over the weekend, I was listening to a recount of the Revolutionary War and how close the colonists came to losing that war. And then it dawned on me about fate. Do you think the only reason we won World War II was because of the unrivaled industrial might of the United States? And do you think if we had lost the Revolutionary War and the United States or the colonies were still under the control of England, that you would have had the Henry Fords and the Carnegies and the Vanderbilts.
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No, they wouldn't have existed, Joe. Those men would have, because as you know, Joe, and for all of you that are on the left listening to this, please hear me out when I say this, when there's no incentive, Joe, humans do nothing.
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Right. So it dawned on me, talk about fate. Had Great Britain defeated the colonists, they probably would be under German rule today.
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Today, absolutely. Absolutely.
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And I have no doubt in my mind, John, because all of those people that I mentioned, you know, at one point during World War II, Ford was turning out one B-24 bomber an hour. That's right. One twin-engine bomber every hour. That's right.
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Every hour. Yep. I believe, Joe, that it could very easily have – really, the Man on High Castle is kind of a great example of this country having half of it ruled by Japan, the other half ruled by Germany. But I think you could have even seen potentially an entire world split in halves along those same lines.
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Right. And by the way – The carrier air conditioning factory in Syracuse, they were building Sherman tanks.
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Amazing.
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And then you think, okay, what if England had won the war? They probably would have, you know, the United States wouldn't have been the industrial powerhouse that it was when World War II... No, no. And if it wasn't for our industrial might in terms of building ships and tanks and bombers and fighter planes, I think this world would be very, very different. Thank God... And I am seriously, when I say God, I truly am thanking God that the colonists won the Revolutionary War, because if not, we might all be speaking German today.
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Joe, I was talking to a guy on vacation. I'm one of those, I just talk to everybody, so I just... Some of it I do because I like to kind of do a little research and learn and learn what other people do and so on. This was a particular gentleman that worked inside of government for a very long time. He started off from Air Force Academy, worked his way on up, went into private defense afterwards, just retired here not that long ago. And he was talking about some of the same things we're talking about because it happened to be. 4th of July, that day that we're actually having a conversation. We were just talking about some of the things even we're talking about on air right now. And some of the things that he said, to your point, Joe, in the ability for us as a nation to have even the defense mechanisms, the weaponry and the things that we have. I mean, this guy was talking about things, Joe, that it's like he's like, there's things I can't even talk about because of the the seriousness of and the secrecy that goes along with it, but the weapons systems and the things that we not only have now, but they're going to be coming online in the not-too-distant future, he said, you know, there's not another country out there that even comes close to rivaling what we have.
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And you look at the B-2 bomber raid on Iran, you know, 37 hours in the air, they never— Never saw them coming, never saw them leaving.
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Just an incredible— This guy was telling me about that, too, about how the actual pilots are sitting in there, how many hours they actually have to sit. They have special suits that allow them to use the restroom in the suit. Yes, there's a bathroom on the plane if need be, but they actually—most of that's done through the specialized suit that— that they have, and anyways, all sorts of things, Joe, that this guy was telling me that I just found fascinating, and again, to the point where we have things nobody else has.
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And only because this country has embraced capitalism, and I've said this before, people complain about wealth inequality. Wealth inequality, I think, is a symptom. You want to see wealth inequality because it means you're living... in an environment where risk-taking is rewarded and encouraged.
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Yeah, in fact, if it weren't equal, then of course we go to the whole Marxist-Communist end of things, Joe, to where everybody's equal and the only buddy that's succeeding are those that are very top that are oppressing everybody else that's below them. But if you can incentivize human beings to do more, then there's always going to be a gap. And Joe, we've talked about this many times. The reality is while we are all equal under the law, We are not all equal, Joe. You have talents that I don't have. I have talents that you don't have. Charlie sits on the other side of this glass window that I sit in front of on an almost daily basis, and he's got talents on that board, Joe, that I look at, and I'm like a monkey reading a roadmap. I mean, the reality is we all have different talents and different things that we do.
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And not only talents, John, but in terms of effort and motivation, you've got different talents, different intellects. different motivations. Some people are willing to work harder than others. Other people are just willing to work hard enough just to get by. And again, once you get that and understand that, hey, those are willing to innovate, take risk, hard work, you're going to create wealth inequality, and I think that's a wonderful thing. I don't ever want to live in a society where there is not wealth inequality, because that means I'm living in North Korea, Somalia, Cuba, Venezuela. I don't want to live in that.
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And even there, Joe, because the way humans are, while it may not be as prevalent as it is in the United States of America, trust me, even where they try to keep things equal, they're still not, Joe.
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No, yeah, there's always going to be an underground economy.
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Yeah, I mean, you just mentioned Somalia, for example. I can go to Somalia and find people that are doing well, you know, way better than, not in comparison to you and I, of course, but doing way better than their neighbor may be, all based upon what you just said.
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Yep, yeah, they're innovative, they're hardworking, they're shrewder. And they all benefit. You know, they probably eat better, you know, than their neighbors. That's right. And they've got warmer clothes than their neighbors.
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That's right. That's right. So bottom line, and I meant what I said earlier, and as I was sitting there, you know, in a Mexican resort, Joe, just, you know, thinking to myself, this wouldn't exist. Literally, yes. I know it was built in Mexico with Mexican workers and money and so on, but it – well, in some cases, it's American money that built those resorts, but that's another story, Joe. But regardless, those would not exist without the good old U.S. of A.
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100% correct, John, because, again, it's our tourism – and maybe even some of our investment that makes those things possible. Because without U.S. tourism, John, half those places at least would just be... And, Joe, I could go around the world, even to European countries.
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We could go to African countries. We could go to, you know, anywhere in the Middle East. We could go anywhere you want, Joe, and that same thing would apply because a lot of the, especially tourism and resorts that have been built, have been built because, yes, I know Europeans and others travel, but not like we do, Joe.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And by the way, if you want proof of that, for those who haven't been, you go to any airport in Europe, and every sign has the native language and English. Yep.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 13 :
Proving the point, Joe. I don't care if you're in Amsterdam or Berlin or Paris or Madrid, every sign in that airport will also be in English.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's why it is the quote-unquote universal language. You've got it.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, John.
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Joe, appreciate you very much. And you all that are out there listening on the left especially, prove me wrong. That's my challenge to you. Prove me wrong. Now, I know you can't because you can't go back and change history, but I think Joe said a lot of things that were spot on. Reality is, had we not broke away from England— had we have not just won in some cases by literally a hair, by the skin of our teeth, literally it was providential in the fact that this country became the free land that it did some 250 years ago. Had it not been for that, a lot of what all of us enjoy, including those of you on the left, you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't be enjoying the things that you have right now. And for a lot of you out there listening on the left that think it's just one great, you know, one big, huge, great idea to steal from one to give to another. Guess what? You wouldn't have anybody to take from if it wasn't for the good old USA. Period. It wouldn't exist. You wouldn't have that ability. I've got other things I want to talk about along those lines today as well. When I do come back, though, we will do the Texas floods. I promise I'll get into that. There are several things there that I want to address. So we'll come back and do that here in a moment. Dr. Scott Faulkner is coming up next. He did a great job, by the way, last Tuesday filling in for me. There was a special health and wellness conversation. Tuesday, not Wednesday. And Scotch is a great guy. He is, of course, Colorado raised, and he is a doctor that wants to do what's best for you, not the insurance company or a big pharma. 303-663-6990.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yes, I am live today. It is July the 7th. Several of you asking if I'm – yes, I'm live today. I wouldn't be talking about some of the current news events if not. So, yes, live today. So if you want to text in or even call in, feel free to do so. And unfortunately, yes, big flood that happened in Texas. It was in Kerr County, the Guadalupe River, and – Despite what a lot of the left will say, the weather reporting and all of that, if there was any snafus, and I'll get into that in a moment, has nothing to do with anything that the current administration has done cut-wise. Zero. In fact, there were extra people staffed over the weekend. So, yeah, no, if you're on the left and you're using that as an excuse, stop. You're wrong. Go do some research before you start spouting your mouth off. And I get after our side for doing the exact same thing. Actually, I've got something along those lines I'll talk about here after I'm done with this, criticizing our own side. But, yeah, before you start spewing things out, go do your own research. And, unfortunately, your side is just as bad about that as our side is. Eighty-two fatalities, 68 in Kerr County, 40 were adults, 28 were children. This is of this morning. Some of these numbers, by the way, could have changed by now. So if my numbers are off a little bit, it's because I did this research at about 9 o'clock this morning, and things by now at 3.30 could have changed. So if I'm off a little bit and there's been a few more deaths, that they have found. Unfortunately, this number may go up, so I could be off some. Unknown number of people remain missing. Again, some of these numbers may climb, including 10 girls and a counselor from Camp Mystic. And this is also something that happened over the weekend. There were some reports early on that they had found some of these missing girls, and it turned out that no, that was not the case. Once again, people not doing their fact-checking and determining whether the news being reported was actually accurate or not, and a lot of people jumped on that bandwagon and then looked like they really ended up having egg all over their face because they were completely wrong, because they didn't verify their sources before spewing that information out. Again, something that I hear, and I'm not a journalist by any means, but I do my best to not throw anything out there that we cannot verify. And if I do and I make a mistake, I will tell you right away that we screwed up. That's why Charlie has a rule for me that we just don't talk about some of these things until there's more than enough information to cycle through to really determine what's going on. In this case, we knew what happened. Big flood, of course. But this was interesting. A Houston pediatrician, Dr. Christina Probst, she's now been fired. because she posted that the 80-plus Texas flood victims, including children, were Trump supporters who got what they voted for, prompting, of course, swift backlash or heavy backlash and swift termination by bluefish pediatrics. Good for them. She should have been canned for that. Now, will she sue them for wrongful termination? Wouldn't surprise me because she'll come back with, well, it's my right to say so, free speech, so on and so forth. Well, yeah, but not in this particular case when it has a direct effect upon their practice, which it would have by you saying that they had no choice but to fire her. It goes to show that even though you're an employee, when you say things outside of your employment that can be detrimental to your employer, you're still going to get canned. Newsflash. Now, Charlie and I were talking about this a little bit prior to the show today, or I think through one of the breaks, actually. How heartless do you have to be to even say something like that? These are people that lost their lives. lot of things and we already know what happens when you assume so not real bright on her part to do so and unfortunately she wasn't the only one being stupid with her comments and what i've learned through the years is it doesn't matter what side of the aisle somebody is on politically speaking death is tragic period i don't care what side of the aisle you're on I've been to funerals of individuals, including family members, where they did not think the same way I do, where their political beliefs were probably completely opposite of mine. And yet you still go and pay respects and give, you know, homage to the family and so on and do what you need to do as a human being to another human being, regardless of their politics. That's what human beings do. It's why a lot of you that are on the left, you're not. You have a mental illness. Unfortunately, this pediatrician has a mental illness because you can't make those kind of comments without a mental illness. Sorry, folks, you just can't. You don't say those sorts of things without having a screw loose. So some of you asked me, okay, what do you do if you're caught in a flood? And before we get to that, sorry, I'm going to stop for just one moment. The whole National Weather Service thing, there's been a lot to do over that, and people talking about it being underfunded, and there's this and there's that, and there's staff cuts. I just went over that a moment ago. No, there wasn't, not in this case. Now, one thing I will say, and this is, I guess you could say, a criticism of the National Weather Service, far too many alerts. Far too many. For example, tomorrow, 9 News. This is on 9 News today. Denver braces for near record heat as temperatures climb. It's July, 9 News. It's July. I've lived here my entire life. It's what it does this time of year. That is not newsworthy. And so my problem with a lot of these... news stations, and so on. Number one, they're looking for anything they can get weather-wise. One thing that everybody always talks about is the weather. So they know if they can push things out on the weather, they get more clicks, more whatever. And it's a way to bait you in, if you would. Come look at this, because you'll get other ads and other things. And by the way, if you go look at a site like Nine News with all of their stupid ads and junk that comes up, it's just relentless, and they're making money on all of that. and off of our eyes looking at it. But my point with the National Weather Service is, when you read headlines like this for tomorrow, near record. Keep in mind, it doesn't say we're going to break the record, which is 100. We could come close, but near record. And again, it's July, folks. This is, in my opinion, this is non-news. Unless in Colorado we're going to have like a 110-degree day, it's not newsworthy. It just isn't. Again, I've lived here my entire life, and even when I was a kid, did we have high-temperature days? Yes, we did. Absolutely. Yeah, I know, because we didn't have air conditioning. I can guarantee you we had high-temperature days. And we just learned how to deal with it. So, again, to me, this is non-news. And what happens, in my opinion, with the National Weather Service is they cry wolf so many times that people start to ignore them. I can tell you right now, I do at times. I'll get an alert, National Weather Service, and I take a peek at it, and it's like, okay, so there's lightning in the area. Okay, yeah, I can see. Duh. It's going to be heavy rain. I can look to the west right now and look out over the foothills and up even towards where I live, and I can tell you right now that, yeah, be careful. It's raining. I can see it. And one thing about living in Colorado, which, again, those of us that are Coloradans should know this, and if you're new to this area, listen up. We can get flash floods in Colorado anywhere, anytime, anyplace, and it can take a life in a heartbeat. You take the deep-veed canyons that we have around this state, even at our lower levels, and you get enough rainfall coming down at one particular moment in time, and think of it as a – literally, it's a funnel – where all of that water is draining down into the bottom of that canyon. It starts uphill, and gravity, yes, I'm not a flat earther, and I believe in gravity. Yes, gravity is there, and that water starts to run faster downhill. And the farther downhill you get, the worse it gets. That's why in this state there will be signs all over the place talking about how if there's heavy rain, go to high ground. Run up the mountain. Do whatever you can to get out of its way. Now, in a low-level situation, this is where people are asking me, what do you do in a situation like that? That's a lot tougher. I'll be the first to tell you. Now, one thing that I will say, and I think I'm okay in saying this, and I have no fault on anybody. I can't direct blame on anybody because I wasn't there. I don't know what was going on even inside of the children's camp. I don't know what people were saying. I don't know what they were talking about. I don't know if they were talking about potentially moving the kids the next morning. Keep in mind, the flooding happened somewhere between 4 and 6 a.m. And so it was dark. Night, if you would. Some people got knocks on the doors after they had fallen asleep to heavy rain and then were woken up just in time to be able to leave and escape. Others were not able to. I read one story to where there was a family staying in multiple cabins, and in this particular case, the parents were able to leave their cabin, but the lower cabin that some of the other members were staying in, they were not. Tragic. Tragic. So, you know, what do you do in situations like this? Number one, pay really close attention to what's going on around you at all times, and watch the sky. Now, I get that it can be dark and it's hard to see what the sky is doing and so on. But I can tell you this much. There are now so many free weather apps that you don't even have to rely on them to tell you what's going on. Pull it up and look at what the radar says. It's not that difficult. What does radar say? What's it look like? What's happening around you? And again, whether these folks there were doing that or not, I don't know. I don't know. Somebody asked me during a text message, and I'll get into this here in a moment, should you stay in your vehicle or get out of your vehicle? I'll talk about that here in a moment. Let me talk to Bob first, though. Go ahead, Bob.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, well, you're old enough. Well, maybe you are, maybe you're not. Do you remember the 1976 big Thompson flood?
SPEAKER 11 :
Like it was yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
You do? Oh, okay.
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Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're younger than I thought. That was about three years after I moved here from Buffalo, New York. You know how much warning there was for that?
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Zero. Yeah, well, let me tell you this, Bob. I have my own story along those lines. Maybe, maybe not. As a kid, I can remember this because we were at my grandmother's house and there were some folks that had come in from out of town. They were from the Missouri area, which is where my mom's side of the family was from. And we all went out into the street and looked to the west because we were down in Boulder up against the foothills. And the clouds, Bob, were as black. I don't think I've ever seen them as black as they were that particular day. That's how vivid that day still is in my mind. I can remember how black the clouds were. And all of my family, my dad included, talking about how, wow, that looks really, really bad. So there may not have been any warning along the lines of, you know, sirens and things like that. But holy cow, Bob, all of us knew something bad was coming.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, wow. You know, that was a 24 to 26 foot wave coming down the Big Thompson. And I was here. And I don't remember any of the news channels around here saying that was going to – yeah, they said there was going to be rain, but not like that. Do you know they found bodies a year later in Nebraska from that?
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Yep, they did. Bob, there were, and again, being in the car world like I was at that time, literally there were cars that were flooded, dead bodies in cars. There were, of course, propane tanks that were floating down the canyon, exploding against rocks. There was all sorts of things that happened in that particular event. And park rangers losing their lives from going door to door in campsites, trying to get people to leave that wouldn't. It was tragic, Bob, tragic.
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Well, in... To give you a little bit of my experience, I came from Buffalo, New York, here in 1973, and they used to protect snowfalls there in the feet days ahead of time, and people would ignore it, and they would try and drive or leave the house or whatever, and they found dead bodies everywhere, and they had four to five days' notice.
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Yep. Yep. I'm not surprised by that, Bob.
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All right.
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Thanks. Thank you. And, no, Bob's bringing up great points of the big Thompson flood that happened. I can't remember exactly how old I was. Probably I'd have to go back and look at the timing of when that was, but I think I was 10 or 11 at the time. And, again, just vividly. It's one of those events where when they ask you, you know, what were you doing at such and such a time, I remember exactly what we were doing, what the family was doing, almost what shirts and colors of clothing even my family, you know, had on as they were all standing out in the street looking to the northwest to see the cloud that was just so ominous. I can remember my family, you know, the elder part of my family talking about how bad that looked and then, of course, waking up the next morning to the news of – what had actually happened it was tragic similar to what this in this situation in texas is and i think this is where i i think period whether you're camping living traveling anytime you're near any type of water that moves lakes even things like that you need to be extra careful about what you're doing there and what's the weather doing at the same time Talked about last week, or week before last, I should say, about the folks that lost their lives up in Lake Tahoe over a freak storm that came through, and they weren't necessarily prepared and probably didn't have life jackets on. And it's always tragic when somebody loses their life for something that is preventable. Now, in this particular case, how preventable was it as far as the loss of life? We won't know until it could be a year down the road from now until we find more details out. I don't know. As far as the kids camp goes, I don't know what kind of preparations they were trying to make. If any, I don't know what the conversations were. I wasn't there. Neither was anyone else that would speculate on it. And until more details come out and there's some eyewitnesses along those lines, the reality is we won't know what they were doing. And again, I can't fault anybody because I wasn't there. Now, I will say because I'm either cursed or blessed, I don't know which it is, I'm such a light sleeper that any amount of heavy rain at all would have woken me up. And I'm one of those to where if it's raining that hard, I'm looking outside. And I'm also one of those where if I'm looking outside and it looks like, holy cow, there is a ton of water rolling through here and I'm that close to the river, I'm one of those that probably is going to get in the car and drive somewhere else. I don't care if it's 3 a.m. I don't want to be stuck in anything like that. Now, that leads to the next question somebody asked me as to do you stay in the vehicle or do you get out of the vehicle? And that's one where I will tell you it really depends, and it depends on what are you driving. And in some cases, it doesn't really matter what it is. If the water's coming through fast enough, you could be driving a semi-truck and it'll still move it. You've seen those pictures where that happens. So a lot of this comes down to you having to have enough perception to see exactly what's going on. And I say this all the time, even in the city here. If you don't know how deep the water is and how fast it's moving, don't drive through it. The other thing that has happened on most vehicles minus trucks is we don't build body-on-frame vehicles anymore. Like when we were talking to Bob, unibody cars didn't even exist at that point in time. Well, maybe a few did, but not very many. Most vehicles back then were body-on-frame. And they were a lot heavier, is my point. A unibody car, I talk about this on Drive Radio a lot, really becomes a boat because the unibody itself, especially the way the doors and things are sealed today, they're fairly airtight. And the reality is that thing will float. You've seen the pictures of it. You can see them in parking lots at times. You can see cars floating in a parking lot. Without even a lot of movement of water, they'll float. Why? Because that thing is so sealed up that there's nothing keeping it from floating. There's air inside of the body. All the windows and everything are all rolled up. It's full of air. It's going to float. And they do. And in some cases, it'll float with the people inside of it and they go right on down the river. And no, I wouldn't want to be in that situation. For me personally, if I felt like I was in a situation where the car was at risk of going downriver, I would be out of it. You have a lot more control being out of the vehicle, even in fast-moving water, as you do being in the vehicle. What happens in the vehicle itself is that vehicle can get trapped. The water then starts rolling through so quickly that the pressure starts to build. There's no way to break a window or do anything else to even get out, and now you're stuck inside of a vehicle, and there's no escape. That's my problem with staying inside of the vehicle. I just don't see that there's any escape of the vehicle itself. It becomes the death trap in and of itself. Now, is it any guarantee that you're going to float downriver and live? No. That's a risk in and of itself. But you've got a lot higher chance of being able to keep your head above water and grab onto something at some point, a log, anything that's got some sort of flotation to it to be able to stay above water than that vehicle. That's my view on it. Now, some of you listening, you might have a different approach and a different idea, and I am all open for ideas as anybody else would be. I am not an expert. I have never been in a flood in fast-moving water like that. I do my very best to avoid those situations. So we'll take a break, come back. There's a call coming in as we speak. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning coming up next. And they want to take care of you with all of your HVAC needs. Find them today at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I had a couple of numerous topics today, just briefly. Go for it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Go for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, that place in Kerr County in Texas, I've been there before.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a town called Kerrville.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And the place we stayed there, I don't even know that it's still standing. It was decades ago when I was there, but it's a little surreal or something to think, hey, I was there and now it's all decimated or at least parts of that, that Guadalupe river, you know, but, uh, so my other, and you know, it's heartbreaking for the family, you know, but, uh, nothing we can do about that. But I wanted to ask you what you, I've been hearing some stuff online. Of course, the trend for AI is coming and it's kind of here, at least in, you know, different fits and starts, uh, Do you see job elimination coming from that? I mean, we've heard that about the computer. We've heard it about China. We've heard it about deindustrialization. And they've all taken a dent out of our economy. They were all, including AI, preventable calamities. But I'm curious what you think. And then do you see the metro area changing? as being in a real estate bubble that's about to burst? Again, I've heard that for years. Oh, the collapse is imminent. All good questions.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, all good questions. And I know we're short on time, Ben. I don't have any guests at the top of the Aris of Nibi. I can put you on hold and we can finish up even at 4 o'clock because I don't have any guests. Like I said, all my guests I had today canceled, so we've got plenty of time. So let me go kind of through these one by one. AI to start with. Yes, I think AI, like when the horse and buggy went away and the car came along, it didn't necessarily put people out of work. I mean, it did, but it changed where those people went to work. So instead of going to work at the horse and buggy place, they went to work for the likes of Henry Ford and others. So there was a changeover. I see AI, Ben, being very similar to that. Will it replace and eliminate totally some jobs? Yeah, I think in some cases it will. For example, Ben – And some people might argue with me on this, although I've talked to enough lawyers now where I don't think I'm wrong. Take a paralegal, Ben, where a paralegal goes through and just does really a lot of research and things to help an attorney out. And maybe he's got two or three of those on staff. Reality, Ben, is AI will take the place of two of those three pretty easily. Because it can. And frankly, Ben, probably do it better.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, even lawyers, I've been to them for various things before. Cops, lawyers, judges, courts. And a lot of times there's something, there's a loophole or some other aspect going on. And before you know it, they're like, oh, case closed. So I don't know that you can eliminate that extra-dimensional thinking element. But the other side of it is I think in some cases you can. And I'm thinking a lot of the touchy-feely jobs... that largely women do. You know, they're not out building roads and bridges. They're like answering phones. Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, let me give you another example on those lines, Ben. As you know, I coach other businesses. I coach all sorts of different businesses, including automotive businesses. And what I've got a lot of my automotive shops doing right now is taking a service advisor where there would normally be a lot of keystrokes throughout the day, inputting different things into, you know, what's wrong with the car, what do we need to do to fix it, still getting a hold of the customer and having the one-on-one, which, by the way, I don't see that changing. You're still going to have a lot of that. But... In today's world with AI, Ben, if they use it correctly, you can eliminate a lot of those keystrokes that that advisor would normally be putting through in a day's time. Therefore, frankly, either freeing up their time to go sell more and do more, or instead of having a particular ratio of service advisors to technicians today, that will continue to grow, meaning an advisor will be able to handle more technicians than they do today because AI eliminates so much of those keystrokes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you can do like, what is it, speech to text?
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you could get a car in and say, analyze, engine, check.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I'm even talking on the advisor side where they're taking the information from the tech, building the estimate for you as the consumer, and normally having to type all of that out, it's getting to the point where AI will do all of that for you by you just telling it what to do, speak to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah. I mean, you've had that speech-to-text thing. Exactly. I haven't used that much of it, but yeah. So to me, that's just one more encouragement. All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I know you've got more. I want to talk more. So, Ben, I'm going to put you on hold. Hang on through the top of the hour or right up against the break. We've got, of course, our commentary news. We'll come back here in a moment for the second hour. And, again, I have no other guests. My son Richard will join us here. At 4.30, we'll talk some things along the lines of sports and so on and get some car reviews in. But that's my only guest for today. We'll be back, though, for Hour 2 in a moment. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. D-Lash, Dana Lash, Radio and X on Twitter to stay connected to her at Radio Craig C. If you want to be one of the 400 or so people that follow me on that platform that I barely use, that'd be awesome. I'll go ahead and add to that. Florida just recently added a super speeder law. Anyone that goes over 100 miles an hour can get caught with a unique violation in Florida. You actually land in jail for 30 days. Within hours of this being implemented, a guy got arrested doing 104 miles per hour in Florida because darn it, it's Florida. And this is a Florida guy. This is audio of the guy being pulled over and talking to the lieutenant who was telling him about the brand new law that he has already violated shortly after it became a thing.
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The reason being, stop the speed limit 70 miles an hour, you're doing 104.
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If you're doing 50 miles over the posted speed limit, or again, 100 or more, you could face 30 days in jail and a $500 fine, or both. If you do a second time, it could be 90 days in jail, $1,000 fine, or both.
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Not good. Yeah, he was doing 104 when he was supposed to be doing 70. That's too fast. That's 30 days in jail for you, sir, and that's a Florida man doing Florida man things. The super speeder law is probably going to catch more people doing that. You know, I'll say one thing about this. And I only lived in Florida for a very short amount of time. I lived in the Midwest for a long time. I live in Texas now. I did live in Florida for just a little bit. It's uniquely tempting on the highways of a Florida, especially on a nice day, to try to figure out how fast your car goes. And every single vehicle I've ever owned, I eventually found out how fast they go. I have a nicer car now. I usually do not have a nice car. So finding out how fast my vehicles go is never really a risk. I haven't done it yet with the current vehicle. If I do... I don't know. But it's usually a back road or something. You choose for that. I'm not saying this is good. I'm certainly not advocating for any of this. Break the law, get caught. That's what happens. But I understand the temptation, I guess, as far as Florida man goes. And again, I only lived there for a little time. I'm not sure how much I became Florida man mentally myself. But I get the temptation. I do. But super speeder law, that's going to be rough for you, bud. St. Petersburg, Florida, a guy had a bomb threat that he called into the St. Pete Clearwater International Airport there. The reason the guy did it is probably just because he wanted to get on the flight later. The identified suspect is 27-year-old Taj Taylor, who they say told another passenger that his laptop was a bomb. The passenger who was heading to a different airport, they were to plane but expected to arrive at their destination at 8.09. What I think is also interesting about this is the guy and what he chose to do and how he chose to do it and how annoying it would be to have your flight plans delayed, rerouted, changed in any way, shape, or form. Because of a moron who wants to pretend that their laptop is a bomb. And then you've got to believe it. You've got to accept it. You've got to talk about it and have other people investigate it. All those things have to happen. Because a Florida man wants to be a dumb moron for some reason. Another guy out there, 60 years old, lost $1.6 million in an elaborate investment scam, the man is saying. It was fronted by a woman that he'd known for many years. Real estate scams are becoming all too significant of a thing. Authorities say Del Carmen wound up stealing $1.6 million. from a guy named Jose Luis Fernandez. Now, this is in Sunny Isles Beach, Florida. Through an elaborate real estate fraud scheme, Fernandez's life will never be the same. He said he's lost everything. He's uniquely upset. Of course he is about all this. But the question remains... Why you go all the way 1.6 million deep into something that's not returning funds to you? Why do you keep believing that you need to give more? The initial investment was like $842,000. And then when Carmen kept coming back to the guy asking for more money, he kept giving it to her. And it might be because of how long again they'd known each other. or whatever else it is. And that's really the most tragic, the saddest part of the investment scheme like this is that, you know, if someone's taken advantage of, there's no way to recover the funds. So that part is probably over forever. Yes, that's one story out there. One last one with a Florida guy involved in peeping into people's windows, who thankfully got arrested for that, because of course he did. Florida man on a Monday, man. Crazy after a holiday.
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Also the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. The fact that there is no official client list of any kind and that the FBI and the DOJ have investigated and found that Epstein did in fact kill himself. A whole lot of people made jokes the other way. And honestly, you know what? i'm not using this topic i want to be uh... extra clear about that to indict anyone that believed the past administration wasn't telling us the truth because they could have put the information out that the current fbi director uh... and you know deputy director and everyone else is putting out people who actually actively said and committed to the american people that they would do everything they could to expose secrets of this story and even if the secrets don't go as deep as we thought they did or maybe the secrets were destroyed along before the current people got in charge i'm not sure whatever it might be they're doing the thing they offered to do they're telling us the truth and they're telling us the truth regardless of how it looks for them professionally i find that interesting There are two pieces of audio that people keep sharing and talking about. One is Pam Bondi back in February saying that she had the client list sitting on her desk. I don't know what exactly was actually sitting on her desk, but it wasn't a client list. If one doesn't exist, this has caused people to still ask questions. But again, I don't actually believe... conservatives in positions of power are covering this up now because of who these people are and and the things they've been saying before they got into that position of power you might believe that that's naive you might believe that they are and you know someone's got a knife to somebody's throat forcing them to say these things but especially people like dan bongino i just don't think we're capable of that i think that a hundred percent they were willing to tell us the truth and the truth is whatever it is but here's bondi back in february saying she had the client list
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The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
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It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
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So have you seen anything? You said, oh my gosh.
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What a great way to ask that question. Not yet. Nothing yet that she's seen that would make her say, oh, my gosh, but it might be out there. I thought that was a great way to ask the second question. And also, honestly, an interesting answer. Her saying that she hadn't seen anything, but maybe there was more. Maybe she was diving deeper into it. I don't know. But she said that it was on her desk. And unfortunately, it winds up being a nothing burger of a story. And I only mean unfortunately because I want the bad guys caught. That's the other thing that's crazy about this. Only two people have actually had any level of guilt thrown at their feet and been arrested and or imprisoned for it. Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein are the only two individuals who've had anything happen to them. And you have to feel like the organization, the horrible trafficking of children, was larger than two people and involved a lot of other people. And yet, as of right now, the FBI is telling us and the DOJ there's no one else they're going to try. So a part of that seems unbelievable. But maybe there's a reason why none of that information currently exists, if it ever did. Here's Alina Haba saying that they needed to do a whole lot. This is on Piers Morgan back in February to fight all of the, you know, horrible people that were involved in this and that all this information, flight logs, et cetera, was going to eventually come out.
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But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs. We have information, names that will come out.
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Is it going to be shocking?
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable. Let's talk about the reverse. I believe in accountability. So you have to now go through your process. Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court. But again, now it's time for accountability. We have seen-
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I wanted all this, to be honest. I was very excited about this. Alina Abba, who is an interesting voice for Trump and his administration and just him in general as one of the lead attorneys that helped try to defend him and stuff. She didn't really do a great job in some of those court cases, but she is wildly attractive. So I understand why they put her on television. Nonetheless, though, Alina saying some things that didn't wind up materializing. So this is a big story. And how you handle this, how you discuss this is actually going to say a lot about the people who you pay attention to in media. If there's people who deny it, people who say that, you know, maybe a lot of stuff was definitely destroyed. And I don't know that one. None of us will know that one. We weren't in power when the information first became something of public interest. Other people were people who might have had more interest in just fully scrubbing the archives. anything and everything out there that could have been related to this but other than that you just I guess you also just move on and honestly and there's one last thing I'll say about this and then I really will talk about other things because there there are other things out there in the world to talk about I like that we ask questions I like that you ask questions I like that I ask questions I like that I actually love that I'll go even a step further I don't like when people assume answers That's the part that I think has always been the mistake. Asking questions is incredibly valuable. And when you ask questions and people don't give you answers, being even more interested in why they're not giving you answers, heightening the level of scrutiny, all of that makes tremendous, tremendous sense to me. So you should do everything you can when people are refusing to answer certain questions and the Democratic politicians and administration in charge refuse to give us The definitive information that the Republican politicians and people in charge are giving us now. And you can ask why about that. But you can never assume the answer until you know for sure. That's the one part of it. And so I think that there's a delicate dance of finding a way to always demand answers and always ask questions, regardless of how valuable someone thinks the question is. But never assuming you know for sure what the answer to that is until someone gives it. And I love when people always tell me we'll never know the truth. We'll never know. They're never going to tell us the truth. So we have to guess at it. Well, no, but we do have to keep demanding it no matter how long it takes them, even if they never give us the truth. And the more we demand it as a group and the more they refuse to answer, the worse it looks for them. So then you can make a guess that you're likely to see something come out a certain way, a way you believe. But I think there's still a nuance to all of that. And I think this might be a lesson learned for some in that delicate dance of I don't actually know, but I'm pretty sure that I know the truth based on all the information I'm seeing. So I feel really good about the questions I'm asking. But I will admit, if you drill it down, I don't actually know.
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SPEAKER 09 :
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Time for a rapid-fire Quick Five, as she does every hour on the show. Let's do this. Ozzy Osbourne reunited with his band for an epic performance for Black Sabbath and also said thank you to the fans who were going crazy for the end of the show. I believe I have some of that audio. Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Come to our final song for you Heather I just want to say to you on behalf of the guys in Black Sabbath and myself
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Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart, he says, as he is dealing with Parkinson's disease and he was sitting in a giant throne chair, which was awesome as he was doing this performance. But Ozzy Osbourne says the last performance, last song Black Sabbath is ever going to do. as a group together, and it feels like that's obviously true. But a really cool moment in the world of music. Is a master's degree worth it anymore? Gen Z grads have seen higher unemployment rates than most other generations when it comes to obtaining your master's. The biggest reason for this is usually that a lot of people who are in those jobs and have master's degrees don't want to leave them. So people who are getting this degree and trying to start out their career at a certain level are finding that those jobs aren't really open. And if they are open, there are people with more experience and not just the document that are getting them. So a lot of Gen Z is asking the question early in their professional life if this document has any value. I would say two things about this real quick. First, I do think higher education is about brainwashing people. A lot of places are. So I think that not doing that is not so bad. But I also think that obtaining this degree or a higher learning degree, it'll eventually pay off. Will it pay off for you in your 20s and 30s? Maybe not. But there might be a point down the road where people need someone in an established position who they're looking for certain experience in. And maybe there's no one really coming along the table that has that because a lot of people aren't finding these jobs and inevitably they need you. So I do think that getting this degree, if you want to ensure that toward the tail end of your professional career, you have as many options as possible. It makes sense. This comes from a radio guy who does not have a master's degree. I'm just saying it, putting it out there. I'm not trying to overvalue education, though, because a lot of bad, a lot of negative is going to be told to you in those places that you're going to have to not listen to if you're going to survive them. Elon Musk is creating his own party officially. He had talked about creating the American Party if the big, beautiful bill passed, which it did. It passed the House. It wound up being signed by the president on the 4th of July. So that's that's a thing that's in the past now. It's the big, beautiful law from this point moving forward. So Elon wants to create something that sounds eerily similar to parties that have existed in the past. And whether or not that party would actually be successful, who knows? I will say one thing about this. If you wanted to pick a candidate, a face for your brand new America party, the person you'd most want to lead it. And I know he's incapable of being elected a third time is President Trump. That's the person you would have wanted at the forefront of a party that's not claiming to be conservative and or a Democratic that's claiming to be its own thing. Because I think he actually has a lot of people that are only Republican candidates. Because of him, like they actually see a lot of rhinos and a lot of problems with the party, but they're willing to vote for him. So is there anyone else on this planet that could actually attract enough voters to succeed against the two major parties? I think the answer is probably no. I can't think of anyone else, even famous celebrity people, who'd be capable of doing that without just harming the Republican Party more than helping it. Because right now you think of this as an alternative party that's going to drain votes and allow Democrats to win a whole lot of races. Although I guess Elon has said he's going to focus on maybe some specific Senate races and other things at first to try to get some wins for the American Party before jumping up that ladder to harder races like the office of president. We will see. But it does sound a lot like the no names party or anything, no labels party and a lot of other things that have existed before and don't necessarily do terribly well. And then one other thing, the U.S. is set to make several trade announcements in the next 48 hours. This is according to the Treasury secretary and the president of the United States. A bunch of letters and stuff that went out. So I actually, you know, I'll talk about that deeper. It'll be more than just a quick five coming up after the break. The U.S. is hopefully going to demonstrate why all the tariff threats were actually a good thing and a very good thing in the very near future. We will see that more coming up in a bit. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show. Another piece of audio that's gone viral, CNN's Dana Bash was thoroughly schooled on Medicaid work requirements. This was funny. And this, again, is tied to some of those changes and how they're talked about in media versus the reality of them. But this was a back and forth about Medicaid and all the horrible things that the big, beautiful bill is doing. And then the person on the other side sitting there thinking, You don't know any of this correctly. You have no concept of what the actual thing says and what's going to occur. And let me just go ahead and demonstrate that to you in about a minute and a half. Here we go.
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I'm sure you've seen and heard a lot of the concern, including and especially from Republicans who are the most vocal in Congress about the fact that those work requirements are going to be very cumbersome to actually prove. And it will inevitably force the people who need that Medicaid coverage off the rolls.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, first of all, the Republicans are not the most vocal on this. It is a group of Democrats who unfortunately seem to think that poor people are stupid. I don't think poor people are stupid. I think they have agency.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amazing! I'm sorry, that already. And I've said this a bunch about the way the Democrats treat radio listeners or media consumers or the American people in general. They essentially think they're stupid. And the way they talk to you is that you're too dumb to understand anything unless I tell it to you exactly the way I want to. And I think not only do the poor people or any people that we're discussing in this term in this situation have agency. I think they also have capability. They have the ability to go on social media, go here, go here, do whatever, and find the truth for themselves. Look for multiple sources of any of this information. Again, more talking about media than Medicaid and Medicare. But I love this initial response to the discussion. You seem to be treating people like they're idiots if they're in need of Medicaid and Medicare.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I think to have them register twice a year for these benefits, that is not a burden. But these people who want to infantilize the poor and those who need these Medicaid benefits are alarmist.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but my impression. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sorry. I really love that part. I love when Dana Lash is like, but I don't know what to say now. I have no road. She had probably a bunch of options for his response, and she did not expect that with where to go. Here's what she says next.
SPEAKER 04 :
The party is that historically wanted to cut through the red tape and not create more red tape. But I do want to move on because... Well, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
But... We've also wanted to put in work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under President Obama, and the Democratic Party blew out the deficit in 2020, and they never want to bring it back. But work requirements even pull well with the median Democratic voter, maybe not the
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So I'm just saying to you as politely as I can that you're an idiot and I'm doing way, way better in this discussion than you are right now. That was excellently done. That was professionally done to a degree that some of us aren't capable of when we wind up arguing with someone that wants to just change facts and reshape things to fit agenda, to fit narratives, as opposed to actually just tell the freaking truth. I feel like that's got to be the campaign of somebody somewhere in media in the near future is that they just look at you and go, we're going to tell you the freaking truth. I mean, Dana does this every day. So Dana certainly could say this, but there's a lot of people that could be out there saying, hey, do you want the freaking truth? We will give it to you regardless of if it damages us or damages, you know, the other side of the aisle. That's not the point. The point is telling you the truth. In case in point to that might be this story about Epstein, which I won't get too much here, but I will just say that the fact that Dan Bongino is one of the two anchors, one of the two names behind the FBI right now, that is telling us that there's nothing there there. with Epstein and a potential client list, and his suicide not being a suicide. It's amazing. The reason it's amazing is because Bongino, for years in his media places, would absolutely be telling you something else was going to happen. And then he got in a position of power, he actually looked into stuff And he's telling us the truth the way the other administration refused to. They could have put any of this information out. Anything that's being released right now that the FBI has, they had during the Biden administration. And whether or not there's some stuff that they used to have that they don't have anymore that they destroyed, I don't know. We can never answer that question, sadly. At least the current administration can't. But the stuff that they are putting out is stuff we had for the last few years. And so the big question is, why would Democrats want a conspiracy theory to remain because they don't answer the question definitively? And why would they allow Republicans to do it, assuming maybe they never would? And yet they are. Republicans are putting the real information out there, or at least these individuals are, to their own personal harm. It doesn't make their brand look uniquely good today, and they don't seem to care because they're going to tell you the freaking truth no matter what. And I love that.
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Join us on The Dana Show with guest host Craig Collins as he dissects the intersection of media, politics, and public tragedies. In a compelling discussion, Craig tackles the recent controversial narratives emerging from a weather disaster in Texas. He addresses the claims against the Trump administration and scrutinizes the role of media personalities who influence public opinion in the aftermath of such tragic events. The conversation progresses to explore the lasting impact of sensationalism on societal reactions and the importance of approaching news with a critical mind.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about on a Monday. Dana is back tomorrow. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all stuff that she's doing, all stuff that is this show. I want to start with a very upsetting story, and it's upsetting in two ways. I don't like to politicize tragedy. I think most people who talk about tragedy don't necessarily desire to politicize it. And I'm not talking about media people. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about people listening to this show. And yet media is obsessed with turning something into a political thing. And then it seems encouraging some people to think the same way and people as ever horribly are doing this. So there was a tragedy in Texas. I live in Houston. This is south of me. Kerr County is where 75 deaths have been reported. This is 48 adults, 27 children so far. And an update here. And essentially, to break down this story the way that media is talking about it, there was a shocking, you know, weather event. that caused a lot of flooding very quickly, a surge of 20 to 26 feet of water into the Guadalupe River near Kerrville, and this caused horrible things to happen. Now, media has also decided that this means that the Trump administration and employees at certain weather organizations is the whole reason that this was as bad as it is. And that's insane, by the way, to talk about in those terms. That's actually insane to me. Because local news media and other affiliates could have easily told you that this was getting bad quickly and informed people and got people out of there. But I don't even want to argue about that point. What's more important to me is because that narrative is out there. I think the New York Times even has an article about it today. There are a bunch of people, left-leaning, crazy, lunatic human beings who are saying that they're happy about this. There are people that have gone to social media that said that essentially a county that voted very heavily for President Trump and has, I guess, according to some pundits online, said or done things as a collective that they don't like, even though I think that's kind of weird to blame Kerr County for thinking a certain thing when you don't know anyone that lives there, when you've never been there yourself, which most of these media outlet people have probably never even been through that part of Texas. But nonetheless, there was even a teacher, or excuse me, a doctor, Dr. Christina Probst, Bluefish Pediatrics is where she works. So she's someone who would be much closer to this than many people would be as an employed individual within Texas, who absolutely also sounded as though she was happy about it, that her heart went out to all visitors, children, and non-MAGA voters and pets. in the area, meaning that MAGA voters are allowed to die. This became a huge story. Patriot Talk 920 AM in Houston, Texas. I was one of the places that actually put this out on social media. And eventually there was a response and the organization said that the person's on administrative leave. I thought that was great. Patriot Talk, that's where I work, and also an affiliate of The Dana Show, just so you know, and that's out there, Patriot Talk 920 on social media if you want to follow them. But she even used this doctor, the social media handle Tina or Steena, so you could kind of figure out who she was, but she was not using her real name. She was trying to be somewhat anonymous, and people figured it out. This is horrific. I don't know when that lesson needs to be learned by the people on the far side of the aisle that refuse to learn it. But you're not winning an argument when people die. That's not that's not the catalyst. OK, yeah, you're right. Never mind this article, this conversation we're having. We now see it and you are the person in the know and you shouldn't weaponize people's deaths for political gain. It's horrible that it happens. It's horrible that people do it. And it's beyond, you know, I don't know. It lacks humanity is probably the way I want to say it. And maybe that's true of a lot of people in media, a lot of people in places where you cover this kind of stuff all the time. And actually, as a as a semi pivot to this discussion, I've worked with a bunch of people and I've known a bunch of people professionally who had really hard media jobs. And what I mean by that is. Sorry, give me a second. What I mean by that is that they actually have to show up at a crime scene immediately after someone has been killed and write a story about it for a local newspaper or something. And that job, it's going to change you as a human. And there's a lot of media people who've reported on countless amounts of tragedies. And so some part of it, their brain is now switched off. And I think that's why it's so easy for media to go there and then influence people to think the same way, to immediately think about the political discussion surrounding your horrible story about the death of children. Multiple kids died that were at a camp because of this shocking weather phenomenon that occurred. And it's just not the kind of time to have this discussion. I hate transitioning conversations about, you know, mass shootings to whether or not guns and gun control is the solution to the problem. I don't think it is. But I hate that you pivot into that direction, not because you're actually wanting to fix the issue, not because you actually want to help moving forward. You want to find someone to blame. Someone beyond whoever the horrible person is, the act of God, essentially. And by the way, I'm a person of faith. I'm Catholic. I would not blame God for what occurred. I don't mean it that way. And I actually think that you could find a lot of help through faith in a moment like this, even for the families going through this horrible tragedy that happened on a holiday. But I digress. I'll move on from this. I just I can't understand why the left seems so hell bent on finding The best examples they can of literal death as their excuse to then have an argument or excuse to try to, you know, push conversations a certain way. So much so that they seem to even be celebratory in these horrible, you know, tragic moments in our society. And again, one more time, I don't think that having more people at the National Weather Service would have made this any better. I personally don't think that. You know, and I know that no matter how much people are told something is happening with however much warning they can give. And in this case, they could have given very little warning, maybe more than they were given, but very little. People still don't make different decisions. A lot of people will stay through bad weather events in wherever they live because they believe that they're going to be OK. And so whether or not anyone else would have left this area if you had more people staffed at a weather organization is is a laughable discussion to me. And the only reason you're going that road is because you want to politicize this. All right. I want to move on to something else. I have a couple other things here. Dan Bongino is, of course, a person now who is with the FBI, and he's an important guy in our intelligence system, the deputy director of the FBI. He was for a long time, of course, a radio host and podcaster. Most people call him a podcaster, and the guy did more than podcasting. But he has egg in his face. today, and a lot of people have egg on their face over the weekend. And this might make a lot of people mad to say it this way, but I don't care. I am going to be honest with you when I'm on this show or any show. They came out and let us know that there is no Epstein file. There is no client list. There's no deep dive into the people who were doing horrible things. And even more importantly, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. This is the current version of the FBI. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino telling us this. Yes, there are people who are going to think that this is still not true. They're going to dive deeper into the rabbit hole of, you know what? I believe that someone is influencing something somehow and forcing this to be the discussion that we're having. And there's two reasons that's difficult for me to accept. The first one being that if Trump was actually someone who should be getting in trouble because of the Epstein files, there's zero chance that Democrats would have hidden that. That, you know, Biden and all of the people who worked for Biden would have silenced him. That's absolutely not possible. Could not happen. Could a Epstein file have existed and been destroyed and they don't know that it's been destroyed? Maybe. That's one argument I guess I could accept. That doesn't mean that anyone's hiding anything from us now. It just means that potentially if there was something that existed, it's long been removed from this earth in any capacity. But the other reason that I really believe this, and I'm no longer one to accept a conspiracy theory, is how adamant Bongino specifically was as a media personality that this Epstein file was going to be incredibly damaging to Democrats. And so for him to tell us the truth, it wasn't easy. And it makes me respect Bongino more. I'm someone who certainly already liked him to begin with. But I just I'm amazed that anyone would still think that this isn't true. And so I do want to play a little bit of audio. This is Bongino on his podcast and other stuff saying that the Epstein files are going to be incredibly damaging and need to be paid attention to for Democrats. And then it jumps to him telling us that there is no Epstein file and that Epstein committed suicide. Again, for people on this side of the aisle to tell us the truth about this stuff, it's not easy. Professionally, it's even somewhat embarrassing, I would assume. I don't know for sure, but I would assume that. So it leads to the credibility of it. And I'll go a step further before I even hit play on this audio. Trump has launched an investigation into the 2020 election, another focal point for the Trump administration. I was happy about this and happy about a lot of these things when I voted for him to be the president because I would very much like to see the truth in this stuff. If the inevitable truth they tell us is there's nothing there, I'll accept that. I won't be thrilled with that information, but I'll accept it. And I actually won't blame them. ringing the bell as hard as they did, believing that something was there, because I don't think the other side wanted to have that conversation. And that seemed odd. They didn't want to definitively prove that the conspiracy theories weren't true when they could have done everything that the current administration is doing. And the question is sometimes why did they not want to disprove it? What was the point in letting it continue to to um you know be a thing that people believed but here there's a little bit of bongino saying how definitively important the epstein files are going to be and then inevitably having to admit that they don't exist i actually think that i have this muted right now give me one second i'll go ahead and hit play on this again uh thank you to producer steven for letting me know i just created dead air there here we go listen um that jeffrey epstein story is a big deal
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Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this. Catherine Rumler, I want you, we need to keep the heat on this case, folks. There are a lot of people who are knee deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been doing. And you should be asking yourself the question, how is it that all these people, see, CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected paths with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it. Outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal. He killed himself. Again, you want me to? I've I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.
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Yes. And they go on to say that there is no Epstein file whatsoever. So, again, this is professionally embarrassing. And so for that reason, I actually believe it's true. I'm checking that conspiracy theory at the door. But I do wonder why the Democrats didn't give me an opportunity to do this. And it's only the Republicans, even to their own harm or professionally to specific people's own harm, that they're finally giving you the information that closes the door on these thoughts. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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That's right. This is the Dana Show. And this is a very quick, quick five. It's official. Eating ice cream is the best summer activity, according to a bunch of individuals who answered a poll online from YouGov. Going on vacation was number two and grilling was number three. But having ice cream or popsicles of some kind outside in general is the best. Maybe because that's easy. Maybe because in the world in which we live and all the ridiculous price increases that happened during the Biden administration, eating ice cream is more attainable for more people than going on a fancy vacation. I'm not sure. I don't know. But apparently it came in at number one. As I said, grilling number three, that seems to have been done a huge disservice. I actually would rearrange a lot of the things. I think going on vacation is probably admittedly the number one best thing you do during the summer if you can do it. And then grilling number two and eating ice cream number three. That's how I would line it up. Apparently not the way others did it. But that is the latest poll of American people from YouGov. A third of us have a nickname for our car. No matter what this name is, a bunch of people have a bunch of different nicknames for their car. Some of my favorite ones were the ones that ripped on your vehicle. Maybe this is a vehicle that you're upset with or it's your first car. I don't know. But someone said they call their car the rolling turd. And I found that hilarious. Also, the turtle, the slug, the puddle jumper, all kinds of mean names for cars that you wish you weren't driving around, but you are. Joey Chestnut reclaimed his hot dog eating contest championship. He won the title after scarfing down 70 and a half hot dogs in 10 minutes. He missed last year's event due to a conflict over a vegan hot dog sponsorship. That's why Joey wasn't there last year. Not an issue this year. The man is the king of eating hot dogs. I do like the thing that Scott Jennings said on social media about this, though, that we all know that this competition is actually gross. No matter how much we might enjoy celebrating the sport, if that's even what you want to call it, of eating a whole bunch of food and dunking the hot dogs into water so that you can consume them easier, the end result is that this is a gross thing that most of us would not want to actually attempt to do ourselves because we wouldn't enjoy any part of it. One other thing, a new trend. Women are not wearing makeup on their first date. Apparently, more and more people are bragging about this on social media of the younger generations, saying that if they want to date me, they got to see the real me right away, baby. No catfish whatsoever. I don't know if the photos on social media that are creating the dates are also makeup free, but the first date itself, they show up and it looks like they just woke up. And now it's your decision as to whether or not you still like this person. I find this hilarious. And honestly, I have no problem with it. Go ahead and rock whatever version of attempting or not trying all that hard you want on your appearance and see what guys stick around. It's fine with me. I don't know if it's going to be a winning strategy, but darn it, I'm not here to judge. Quick break. Oh, I am actually. Just not this. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. DLash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected. Two of the bigger stories out there that I'll certainly want to keep touching on throughout the show is the loss of lives in Texas, a part of Texas that was surprisingly flooded in a very short amount of time because about the, you know, two months worth of rain happened in a day. And lives were lost, 27 children, campers at a faith-based camp were lost in this. And for some reason, people on social media on the left in general have wanted to politicize this, wanted to blame Trump for what they think are changes to the National Weather Service or anything else that caused this, which isn't true. None of that's true at all. I just want to put that out there that it's horrific. that this is the road people want to go down when there are families grieving the loss of their children. And it was immediate, that reaction. That's the other thing out there that made me so mad is how quickly it became about that and not about the horribleness of losing individuals, especially children, for parents on a holiday. But I digress. That's one of the bigger stories out there and certainly one to keep being discussed. Also, the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. The fact that there is no official client list of any kind and that the FBI and the DOJ have investigated and found that Epstein did in fact kill himself. A whole lot of people made jokes the other way. And honestly, you know what? I'm not using this topic. I want to be extra clear about that. To indict anyone that believed the past administration wasn't telling us the truth, because they could have put the information out that the current fbi director and you know deputy director and everyone else is putting out people who actually actively said and committed to the american people that they would do everything they could to expose the secrets of this story and even if the secrets don't go as deep as we thought they did or maybe the secrets were destroyed along before the current people got in charge i'm not sure whatever it might be they're doing the thing they offered to do they're telling us the truth And they're telling us the truth regardless of how it looks for them professionally. I find that interesting. There are two pieces of audio that people keep sharing and talking about. One is Pam Bondi back in February saying that she had the client list sitting on her desk. I don't know what exactly was actually sitting on her desk, but it wasn't a client list. If one doesn't exist, this has caused people to still ask questions. But again, I don't actually believe... conservatives in positions of power are covering this up now because of who these people are and and the things they've been saying before they got into that position of power you might believe that that's naive you might believe that they are and you know someone's got a knife to somebody's throat forcing them to say these things but especially people like dan bongino i just don't think we're capable of that i think that 100 they were willing to tell us the truth and the truth is whatever it is but here's bondi back in february saying she had the client list
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The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients? Will that really happen?
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It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
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So have you seen anything? You said, oh my gosh.
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What a great way to ask that question. Not yet. Nothing yet that she's seen that would make her say, oh, my gosh, but it might be out there. I thought that was a great way to ask the second question. And also, honestly, an interesting answer. Her saying that she hadn't seen anything, but maybe there was more. Maybe she was diving deeper into it. I don't know. But she said that it was on her desk. And unfortunately, it winds up being a nothing burger of a story. And I only mean unfortunately because I want the bad guys caught. That's the other thing that's crazy about this. Only two people have actually had any level of guilt thrown at their feet and been arrested and or imprisoned for it. Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein are the only two individuals who've had anything happen to them And you have to feel like the organization, the horrible trafficking of children, was larger than two people and involved a lot of other people. And yet, as of right now, the FBI is telling us and the DOJ, there's no one else they're going to try. So a part of that seems unbelievable. But maybe there's a reason why none of that information currently exists, if it ever did. Here's Alina Haba saying that they need to do a whole lot. This is on Piers Morgan back in February, to fight all of the, you know... horrible people that were involved in this and that all this information, flight logs, et cetera, was going to eventually come out.
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But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs. We have information names that will come out.
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Is it going to be shocking?
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I don't see how it's not shocking that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable. Let's talk about the reverse. I believe in accountability. So you have to now go through your process. Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court. But again, now it's time for accountability. We have seen...
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I wanted all this, to be honest. I was very excited about this. Alina Abba, who is an interesting voice for Trump and his administration and just him in general as one of the lead attorneys that helped try to defend him and stuff. She didn't really do a great job in some of those court cases, but she is wildly attractive. So I understand why they put her on television. Nonetheless, though, Alina saying some things that didn't wind up materializing. So this is a big story. And how you handle this, how you discuss this is actually going to say a lot about the people who you pay attention to in media. If there's people who deny it, people who say that, you know, maybe a lot of stuff was definitely destroyed. And I don't know that one. None of us will know that one. We weren't in power when the information first became something of public interest. Other people were people who might have had more interest in just fully scrubbing the archives. of anything and everything out there that could have been related to this. But other than that, I guess you also just move on. And honestly, and there's one last thing I'll say about this, and then I really will talk about other things because there are other things out there in the world to talk about. I like that we ask questions. I like that you ask questions. I like that I ask questions. I like that. I actually love that. I'll go even a step further. I don't like when people assume answers. That's the part that I think has always been the mistake. Asking questions is incredibly valuable. And when you ask questions and people don't give you answers... being even more interested in why they're not giving you answers, heightening the level of scrutiny, all of that makes tremendous, tremendous sense to me. So you should do everything you can when people are refusing to answer certain questions and the Democratic politicians and administration in charge refuse to give us the definitive information that the Republican politicians and people in charge are giving us now, and you can ask why about that, but you can never assume the answer until you know for sure. That's the one part of it. And so I think that there's a delicate dance of finding a way to always demand answers and always ask questions, regardless of how valuable someone thinks the question is, but never assuming you know for sure what the answer to that is until someone gives it. And I love when people always tell me, we'll never know the truth. We'll never know. They're never going to tell us the truth, so we have to guess at it. Well, no, but we do have to keep demanding it no matter how long it takes them, even if they never give us the truth. And the more we demand it as a group and the more they refuse to answer, the worse it looks for them. So then you can make a guess that you're likely to see something come out a certain way, a way you believe. But I think there's still a nuance to all of that. And I think this might be a lesson learned for some in that delicate dance of, I don't actually know, but I'm pretty sure that I know the truth based on all the information I'm seeing. So I feel really good about the questions I'm asking, but I will admit if you drill it down, I don't actually know. All right. One other thing, and I thought this was just interesting. A rescue swimmer named Scott Ruskin saved 165 individuals during the disaster in Texas. People are sharing an interview he did on Good Morning America because they're calling toxic masculinity a tremendous success. I do think it's funny, and I said that I don't like to politicize tragedy, but I do think it's funny when you see people acting like brave heroes running toward danger, jumping in and saving people's lives, like doing all those things. that people are now saying are somehow bad, that men being men is somehow a problem. And because this person is the way they are, because the attitude, the personality, all those things weren't silenced as a kid growing up, he was able to save a whole lot of people. And so we want a whole bunch of this in our society, especially in positions where people are fighting to save us, to rescue us. We want this attitude to be at the forefront of those kinds of operations. And it is right now. But here's a little bit of that back and forth interview with a guy who saved 165 people during the flooding in Texas.
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Scott Ruskin joins us now. Scott, thank you for joining us this morning. Tell us what happened.
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Hey, good morning, everyone. Yeah, so I'll kind of give you guys a quick synopsis of what was going on. The Coast Guard launched us and decided to send a rescue crew from Air Station Corpus Christi at about 6.30, 7 a.m. on Friday, the 4th of July. I just happened to be on the duty crew with Ian Hopper, Blair Bourgeois, Seth Reeves, some of our crew members in the Coast Guard. And yeah, they sent us out. We kind of encountered some pretty serious weather, some of the worst flying we've ever dealt with personally. It took us, you know, it should have been an hour flight, probably took us about seven or eight just to get into the landing zone. Once made about four different approaches trying to get in, we were able to get boots on the ground with the Air National Guard, Department of Public Safety for Texas, game wardens. And we decided to leave me on scene at Camp Mystic. That was kind of our main triage site we were trying to help out with. We decide, hey, if we leave the rescue somewhere unseen, we'll have more space in our Dolphin MH65. So based on that, I got unseen, boots on the ground at Camp Mystic. Kind of discovered I was the only person there as far as first responders go. So yeah, I had about 200 kids mostly, all scared, terrified, cold. Wow. Having probably the worst day of their life, and I just kind of needed to triage them, get them to a higher level of care, and get them off the flood zone with a lot of the US-60s.
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I'm going to stop it right here before you answer another question. Here's what I love about people like this. Individuals like him who are not remotely afraid. And if they are, they'd never let you know. But to go toward danger when everyone else is desperately trying to get away. He just casually described how the flight he was on took eight hours when it should take one to find a safe way in to Camp Mystic where people are terrified and a bunch of kids are. He described it like he was having his morning breakfast. He's like, yeah, and you know, then I had a couple of eggs and I saved 165 people. And that's what you need to be. You need to be a person. And I love the other part where he's like, yeah, they just left me at Camp Mystic, this place that's, you know, in chaos and people are terrified and craziness is all around us. It was better. It was better. They freed up a spot in the plane or the helicopter and I was able to do my thing. So I just love. every part of individuals who nonchalantly describe the way that they kicked absolute butt. And this person is doing exactly that on Good Morning America. And people call this toxic masculinity now. They say, oh, it's horrible. It's terrible that this person wants to be a tough guy. They want to be someone who would, you know, dive into a situation like this and save people's lives. And yet this is actually the version of the person you get is the, yeah, I did it. They told me to. I was prepared for it. I was trained for it. And I'm the right human being with the right makeup to be in this situation. And good things happened because I was there.
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Army helicopters.
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Talk about how that works. You got 165 close to 200 kids there. How do you get them out? Just one by one?
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Yeah, yeah, sir. It's a great question. Yes. So the United States Army National Guard was landing their 60s with Task Force One, some of their rescue swimmers, and they were able to land. We kind of came up with two different landing zones. There's one off an archery field and then one at a soccer field. So, yeah, we were able to kind of land those 60s in there. And then I was kind of the main guy as far as like grabbing people. Usually like 15 to 10 kids at a time, maybe one adult with them and bringing them over to those 60s and getting them to a different LZ that was kind of safe and had more first responders than just myself out there.
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It was amazing. He's like, yeah, it's kind of just me by myself grabbing a bunch of children who are terrified and at least an adult and bring them all to safety and then doing it again and again and again until I save 165 people. It's just incredible. This is the other reason that you should be so, so grateful for the men and women who serve this country in any capacity, whether it's the military men and women, National Guard men and women, of course, Coast Guard people like this guy, your police officers, your firefighters, any... excuse me, any human being, I got a little choked up as I was talking about that, who tries to do whatever they can to keep you safe. These people are vitally important to what makes our country so special, and these people can be as toxically masculine as anyone ever created, in my opinion, because it's wonderful. But I love how, again, this is a topic of discussion where people criticize who this guy would be day to day, and then in a moment where you need him, thrilled that he's there on the ground. All right, quick break, a lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all things that she's up to. For sure, something you should definitely be following every single day. I thought this was interesting. A driver... hitting everything but the lottery while slamming car and dragging officers is a story that went viral in Boston. The person has been arrested, but the eyewitness who was talking about it is part of the reason that this thing went viral. I'll go ahead and play a little bit of this audio. This is terrible. I think everybody's going to be okay, which is good, but there were officers that were being dragged along during part of this crazy chase.
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When I came outside, there was no other second car that had been an accident. I was like, okay, this is a little bizarre. And the cops said, no, she started smashing cars downtown like an hour ago. It's not an ordinary to see somebody sort of maybe driving too fast. But this is, of course, off the charts.
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Yeah, it's off the charts. It's insane. It's terrible. And as I said, again, the driver was hitting everything but the lottery was part of the phrases that were used to describe this. That's crazy. Again, I'm glad that the officer and everybody else can be OK. And I don't know if there's anything that's added to the reason this has gone viral from the the Boston accent of the individuals who are talking about being eyewitnesses to this. But nonetheless, a big deal story. Another thing out there, I thought this was pretty funny. Now, good news, if you have a dad bod just in time for beach season, yet another study has found that women's ideal body type for men is a dad bod. And a bunch of this research says why. And if you don't know what a quote-unquote dad bod is, it's someone who's fit but not like insanely in shape. Someone who might have a stomach, someone who might have some things that you would say mean they hit the gym from time to time, but they're not a person who's living in the gym 24-7. The biggest reason, they say mentally, that women are attracted to this is it makes them not feel bad about themselves. They see muscles. They see success or capability as far as being able to defend somebody. But they also see someone who's not going to be eating dinner with you and saying to themselves or saying to you that you've got to count certain calories. There's someone who's okay with both. I love that. I love that the idea that the reason that the dad bod is so successful with the ladies, at least on paper, I don't know if it's actually successful in practice. I am a guy who's been married for long enough now to not understand what the current dating world is looking for and happy about that. But I love the idea that on paper, people are like, no, yeah, this is the ideal thing I want because this person will finish my ice cream if I don't want to finish it. But they'll also not be afraid of hitting the weights even a little bit at the gym, which is the exact thing you apparently want. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about out there in the world. DLash, DanaLashRadioNX on Twitter. Just stay connected to her at RadioCraigC. If for some reason you want to follow me along with the 400 or so people that do that, definitely not a large social media platform for me. But anyway, all right, let's get to some real serious stuff out there. A 27-year-old man in tactical gear wielding a rifle opened fire at federal agents on the southern border in McAllen, Texas. The person was subdued. One border patrol agent was shot in the knee. He will be okay. A couple others were injured during this. The craziest thing about this story, other than the absolute... piece of crap person that decided to try to attack border patrol agents armed with all kinds of things. By the way, the guy's license claims he was from Texas, or excuse me, he was from Michigan and just in Texas. I don't know how long he lived in Michigan, but that's the last known address for the individual. And there's something really important about this person, too. The person's name is Ryan Lewis Mosqueda. So a, you know... last name that's not, say, common in the United States compared to other ones. For some reason, when CNN reported on this story, they simply called him Ryan Lewis. They left off his actual last name and used his middle name, which is very strange. That's a very odd thing to do, maybe because they thought that calling him Muscata would make people think that the reason he attacked Border Patrol is because of an ethnicity or a reason to a motivation for the attack is racial. And this is something that no one has admitted so far. Everyone is is claiming we don't know what the cause of this is. But here's CNN trying to fully avoid this discussion whatsoever by choosing to not report actual news to you by changing it.
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We've got multiple teams working this story as we learn more about this breaking news. But apparently a man showed up to this facility this morning with tactical gear and a rifle, opening fire on those agents at the front. Fire was returned. Dozens of shots was fired. And we have confirmed that man was killed in this. He's been identified as Ryan Lewis, 27 years old. But as we show you these images. obviously very concerning this man with a rifle and that tactical gear showing up you can see the image of him down right there multiple shots fired we have a confirmed statement this morning an individual open fire at the entrance of the United States border sector annex in McAllen Texas
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All right, so here's something that's really important about this, too. CNN is one of the places that has given you a ton of information about apps that are designed to help people track ICE agents to see if they're in certain areas. And they claim the reason for this is so people could run away, hide from ICE agents in your area if you're worried about them showing up in your area. which is very strange because essentially is saying that we're going to help criminals thwart investigations. If the police are coming to arrest you because you committed a crime, even if that crime is simply living in the country illegally, then any app that tells you that the police are there is trying to prevent police from doing their business, from doing their duty. So that's insane. But it also is tied to a 700% increase in violence toward ICE agents. The party and the television stations that call Trump Hitler, that talk about all the different things that they think are wrong in society because of conservative ideology, because of Republican voters, and they call them all MAGA voters and terrible people or whatever they say, all of that, they're then surprised when something like this happens. Now, granted, I always err on the side of whenever I talk about any of this, that the insane person deserves to be treated as the individual responsible. So Mosqueda, Ryan Lewis Mosqueda, deserves to be treated as an individual who chose to do this of their own volition, who attempted to commit a horrible crime and was shown why you shouldn't do that by being stopped. by being subdued, or just killed, is the way that I'd say it. It's weird the other ways people say it. You know, he was neutralized. He was shot and killed because he opened fire at Border Patrol agents, which was uniquely stupid of him to do. But nonetheless, I just think it's amazing that the people who essentially beg for this type of behavior and actually celebrate it to a degree, because if the people are standing for the same values that their organizations are standing for uh... they acted they act like this is somehow a tragedy like there was no bad guy involved when there was an active shooter trying to kill border patrol agents for whatever reason reasons that we might be able to get that when you're given the entire name of the individual of another last as this is going on as people are are you know trying to debate back and forth you just have news media outright lying to you and i've talked about this before I know it's not shocking. Everybody thinks that media lies to them now. But in a newsroom like a place of CNN, and I don't know CNN specifically, I've never worked there, never had anyone I know that worked there. So I'm not talking about them directly. But I've been in newsrooms where people think that they're, or at least have convinced themselves that they're doing something for the right reasons. but they're actually articulating out loud news directors and others that we're not going to tell the full story here we have more information we're not going to give it to the american people the public or even our our subsection of it if it's a smaller news organization and the reason why uh... these people that claim to be journalists they claim to be you know of the of the upper uh... echelon of people with credibility and and a willingness to just tell you what it is they'll say that we're we're afraid that this true information will radicalize people that we don't like people that we don't agree with into believing the radical opinion is true and you look at them and usually say back in the in the beating as someone like me at least as back But that's the true information, right? Like the thing you're deciding to censor in this story is true. We have it factually. We know verbatim that this is an accurate thing. I'm going to give you an example. I was working at a place where an individual who was thought to be very philanthropic, she was thought to be, you know, a big high profile name in the world of philanthropy and certain nonprofit organizations had killed herself. And a lot of people like, oh, there's parts of this story we don't want to talk about for reasons because it intertwines with politicians. It got difficult as you went up the tree branches of that discussion. And so many news organizations in a small community simply left out information that I was adamant we should be talking about. And people were telling me, no, no, no. How dare you think that that's something that should be talked about? And then eventually it does come out. That's the other thing about the truth is eventually it comes out and there was a bunch of other details to the story about potential embezzlement of money and other things that made it not look like the individual who people in the community really thought was was like a great person. I had lived up to that standard privately to the level that people assumed. And so it was just interesting to me to go through that because the people who are telling you we can't talk about this, we can't talk about that, we're usually couching it in some sort of this is for the betterment of people. Like we're protecting people. We're not going to make people more likely to hurt themselves or do this, do whatever it is that we think they're going to do in response to this information, even though it's... I mean, another crazy story nationally that you remember that lives in this same world is the story about the trans shooter. And people didn't want to talk about it. Well, we don't want to talk about it. I just knocked something over. Ignore the thing that fell in the studio here as I'm talking to you. Sorry about that. No one's attacking me for saying the truthful things I'm saying on the radio right now. But all this stuff about the trans shooter and the manifesto. And how dare this person potentially target a school, a faith-based school and hurt people because of their unique and I would think mentally unhealthy position in life. And this would be the individual that I'm talking about specifically and all the things that were in that manifesto that showed how mentally unhealthy this person was. But darn it, if we say that the trans person was unhealthy, we're gonna cause a whole bunch of things in society to go the wrong way and we just can't tell the truth here. How dare media continue to feel that way? How dare media continue to disrespect the audience it has or the audience it's afraid it has? Because the other stance in this is that if there are people who aren't asking these questions, news media likes those individuals. They like the people who hear their news story and think that's the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help you God. And honestly, the people who pretend like they were as tricked as anybody else are unnerving to me. Like, oh, we didn't know until we had to know because the public knew that we knew this information, and then eventually we admit it. But so, to me, the big takeaway to get back to the actual issue at hand with McAllen, Texas, is that a 27-year-old radical person decided to arm themselves with tactical gear and open fire on federal agents for reasons yet to be determined, But a decent assumption can be made, at least for now, that we think we're going to figure out that this was motivated by the person believing that race, you know, was unfairly being, you know, attacked or something, that they were racially motivated. that to try to harm people that are protecting our border and so essentially uh... you know is this whole thing plays out as all these discussions play out uh... that the biggest thing that media will inevitably do is claim what they didn't didn't know and when they did and didn't know it based on us asking questions so as i said before i'll say again i love demanding the truth from media because eventually it works And I hate when media says, how dare you ask those questions? The conspiracy theorists, how dare they dive into their rabbit holes and say things that they're going to say? Now, granted, as I said before in the show, and I'll say again, having a conspiracy theory doesn't mean you have a conspiracy fact. And I know it's very hard to get from theory to fact here on a lot of this stuff if news media is unwilling to tell you the truth. which a lot of times they are. But nonetheless, if you keep asking the questions, you at least hold their feet to the fire as best you can. But this story is uniquely awful and uniquely interesting to hear from places like CNN that have promoted apps that would help more radical, far-left, crazy people try to target, harm, and take the lives of police, border patrol agents. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Time for Rapid Fire Quick Five, as she does every hour on the show. Let's do this. Ozzy Osbourne reunited with his band for an epic performance for Black Sabbath and also said thank you to the fans who were going crazy for the end of the show. I believe I have some of that audio.
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Coming to our final song for you, Heather. I just want to say to you on behalf of the guys in Black Sabbath and myself, your support over the years has made it all possible for us to live the lifestyle we live. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I love you. We love you.
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Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart, he says, as he is dealing with Parkinson's disease and he was sitting in a giant throne chair, which was awesome as he was doing this performance. But Ozzy Osbourne says the last performance, last song Black Sabbath is ever going to do as a group together, and it feels like that's obviously true. But a really cool moment in the world of music. Is a master's degree worth it anymore? Gen Z grads have seen higher unemployment rates than most other generations when it comes to obtaining your master's. The biggest reason for this is usually that a lot of people who are in those jobs and have master's degrees don't want to leave them. So people who are getting this degree and trying to start out their career at a certain level are finding that those jobs aren't really open. And if they are open, there are people with more experience and not just the document that are getting them. So a lot of Gen Z is asking the question early in their professional life if this document has any value. I would say two things about this real quick. First, I do think higher education is about brainwashing people. A lot of places are. So I think that not doing that is not so bad. But I also think that obtaining this degree or a higher learning degree, it'll eventually pay off. Will it pay off for you in your 20s and 30s? Maybe not. But there might be a point down the road where people need someone in an established position who they're looking for certain experience in. And maybe there's no one really coming along the table that has that because a lot of people aren't finding these jobs. Inevitably, they need you. So I do think that getting this degree, if you want to ensure that toward the tail end of your professional career, you have as many options as possible. It makes sense. This comes from a radio guy who does not have a master's degree. I'm just saying it, putting it out there. I'm not trying to overvalue education, though, because a lot of bad, a lot of negative is going to be told to you in those places that you're going to have to not listen to if you're going to survive them. Elon Musk is creating his own party officially. He had talked about creating the American Party if the big, beautiful bill passed, which it did. It passed the House. It wound up being signed by the president on the 4th of July. So that's that's a thing that's in the past now. It's the big, beautiful law from this point moving forward. So Elon wants to create something that sounds eerily similar to parties that have existed in the past. And whether or not that party would actually be successful, who knows? I will say one thing about this. If you wanted to pick a candidate, a face for your brand new America party, the person you'd most want to lead it. And I know he's incapable of being elected a third time is President Trump. That's the person you would have wanted at the forefront of a party that's not claiming to be conservative and or a Democratic that's claiming to be its own thing. Because I think he actually has a lot of people that are only Republican candidates. Because of him, like they actually see a lot of rhinos and a lot of problems with the party, but they're willing to vote for him. So is there anyone else on this planet that could actually attract enough voters to succeed against the two major parties? I think the answer is probably no. I can't think of anyone else, even famous celebrity people, who'd be capable of doing that without just harming the Republican Party more than helping it. Because right now you think of this as an alternative party that's going to drain votes and allow Democrats to win a whole lot of races. Although I guess Elon has said he's going to focus on maybe some specific Senate races and other things at first to try to get some wins for the American Party before jumping up that ladder to harder races like the office of president. We will see. But it does sound a lot like the no names party or anything, no labels party and a lot of other things that have existed before and don't necessarily do terribly well. And then one other thing, the U.S. is set to make several trade announcements in the next 48 hours. This is according to the Treasury secretary and the president of the United States. A bunch of letters and stuff that went out. So I actually, you know, I'll talk about that deeper. It'll be more than just a quick five coming up after the break. The U.S. is hopefully going to demonstrate why all the tariff threats were actually a good thing and a very good thing in the very near future. We will see that more coming up in a bit. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to discuss, even when it feels like there's only a couple stories that are at the forefront of news. DLash, DanaLash, RadioNX on Twitter to stay connected to her. At RadioCraigC, if you want to connect with me. An idiot, a horrible person, tried to attack people in tactical gear at the border in McAllen, Texas. That person was killed. They were subdued. They were whatever you want to call them. He was stopped. He was shown the reason that you don't charge at a U.S. Customs and Border Agency with a gun opening fire. At least one officer was injured, shot in the knee. I believe they'll be okay. Another couple other officers were hurt, but I don't think that they're harm or their injuries are or serious in nature and again uh... in the easy pivot an easy part of this conversation can be how many people in media seem to be begging for this to happen and then it does happen and they pretend as though they're upset about it that's just one big story out there of course the ongoing discussion about camp mystic in texas and in general the flash flooding that occurred there eighty two people died uh... and a lot of uh... people now coming out of the woodwork saying that this organization is responsible for that organization responsible And even the National Weather Service is saying, we warn people, we did our best. But this was a uniquely crazy event that materialized very quickly and made it a situation that unfortunately had the level of harm it did. But it's an awful, awful story. And it's crazy to see people almost celebrate it, which I'm saying actually truthfully, because a lot of the left seemed happy. to blame all of this on Trump and the people who voted for Trump that they envisioned to be in this area, 27 children died. And yet that's the takeaway for some that is uniquely horrible. Those are big stories out there. Some other things I want to talk about. It is interesting to hear that President Trump and then other members of the administration are saying they expect a whirlwind of trade deals over the next 24 to 48 hours. That letters have been sent out, I think, is the way that Trump said it. President Trump said it and others. But if this is true, if this actually occurs, I know it'll feel like a nothing story compared to the things I just mentioned a moment ago. uh... but it would be interesting to see how all of those terror threats and all the freaking out about it i mean if you rewind the clock essentially this is what happened trump takes office he says that he wants brand new trade deals with most of the the countries in the world because they take advantage of us we have tremendous trade deficits with a bunch of countries who put roadblocks into getting our product well then also you know, creating scenarios where they demand to get our product as cheaply as possible from them, and then also, you know, et cetera, et cetera, take ways to gouge us for the things that come across from them to us. There's just so many different ways where the trade deficit becomes alarmingly hilarious, and how much red tape and decision-making by other countries is involved in causing it to be as extreme as it is. and the fact the United States and other leaders have just often tolerated this. They're just like, that's fine. Cost of doing business as a uniquely rich country is we get taken advantage of by everybody else. And essentially one of the reasons, I'll say this quickly, and I know this is a dumbed down version of talking about this issue, but one of the reasons China is as successful as it is as a country today is because of us and how much we outsourced production of things to them at a lower cost. But anyway, If all these trade deals come across and are much better, what's funny about it is that all the freaking out again and again and again over tariffs never materialized to actually being a thing uniquely damaging to our economy as we're having gangbuster days on Wall Street and as we really need to start lowering some of those interest rates to get back to a world that responds to the economy that we have. which seems to be something uniquely unwilling to happen because of political reasons, for people in charge of the Fed and whatnot. But I digress. As I say that, it's amazing to see the end result of this story and to reflect back on the months of coverage of it from all the different angles and all the places it was covered because of how profoundly different the end result is going to be or is likely to be, at least right now. There's so much potentially there. And again, if this actually happens in the next 24 to 48 hours, amazing. If not, I guess we'll continue to debate back and forth what's really happening and is something good or not good. And the same is true about the amount of people being deported from this country. I will say that as well. There's a lot of reactions in places in media and whatnot and honestly all over social media of people being upset that people who are here illegally are not being allowed to stay, that they're being removed. And honestly, that might be the catalyst to something like the story about McAllen, that someone wants to attack a Border Patrol agency with their last name Mosqueda because they're racially motivated to do something they think is happening for race reasons and not because people are here illegally. People are committing a crime. I think even Jasmine Crockett out of Texas said that this country should feel terrible for the things they're doing. I think I have a piece of audio from Jasmine Crockett.
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As far as I'm concerned, you randomly kidnapping folk and you throwing them out of the country against their civil rights, against their constitutional rights. And frankly, how would they feel if some other country decided that they were going to start throwing people randomly in our country?
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I'm sorry, I love that last part. Isn't that what's happening? Aren't we having a lot of people just randomly getting thrown into our country? You don't think any of those are government-facilitated, where people are being sent here that the other places don't want to keep, and they see the giant wide-open border that existed with the last administration, so they swing through these doors? Are you really asking us that question? But the reason I brought this up, and the reason I tie it to the tariff deals, is that what if it also benefits us tremendously? What if the economy gets even better because people who are working certain jobs start getting paid more money to work them because they don't have to compete against people who are willing to take less money because they're here illegally? And those people who were here illegally were being taken advantage of, so it's in their best interest to need to have certain paperwork in order to work these jobs, to have legal status in our country, not be illegally here. All of that makes sense. So what is the end result of all of these discussions and all of these things that you get told are going to be horrible, terrible, that society will never recover from them and the democratic country that we live in? the Constitutional Republic is what they should say, a country that we live in will never be the same. All those things get touted again and again and again. And at the end of all of it, you see, and this might be, again, a reaction to the big, beautiful bill as a whole and what it does for our economy, what it does for our country. If people rush back to create products here the way that Trump has said they would. And I'm not saying that will happen. I'm just saying there's a chance that these things could happen, and it might be pretty good. Another piece of audio that's gone viral, CNN's Dana Bash was thoroughly schooled on Medicaid work requirements. This was funny. And this, again, is tied to some of those changes and how they're talked about in media versus the reality of them. But this was a back and forth about Medicaid and all the horrible things that the big, beautiful bill is doing. And then the person on the other side sitting there thinking, You don't know any of this correctly. You have no concept of what the actual thing says and what's going to occur. And let me just go ahead and demonstrate that to you in about a minute and a half. Here we go.
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I'm sure you've seen and heard a lot of the concern, including and especially from Republicans who are the most vocal in Congress about the fact that those work requirements are going to be very cumbersome to actually prove. And it will inevitably force the people who need that Medicaid coverage off the rolls.
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Well, first of all, the Republicans are not the most vocal on this. It is a group of Democrats who unfortunately seem to think that poor people are stupid. I don't think poor people are stupid. I think they have agency.
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Amazing! I'm sorry, that already. And I've said this a bunch about the way the Democrats treat radio listeners or media consumers or the American people in general. They essentially think they're stupid. And the way they talk to you is that you're too dumb to understand anything unless I tell it to you exactly the way I want to. And I think not only do the... poor people or any people that we're discussing in this term in this situation have agency. I think they also have capability. They have the ability to go on social media, go here, go here, do whatever, and find the truth for themselves. Look for multiple sources of any of this information. Again, more talking about media than Medicaid and Medicare. But I love this initial response to the discussion. You seem to be treating people like they're idiots if they're in need of Medicaid and Medicare.
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And I think to have them register twice a year for these benefits, that is not a burden. But these people who want to infantilize the poor and those who need these Medicaid benefits are alarmist.
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Yeah, but my impression. Okay.
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Sorry. I really love that part. I love when Dana Lash is like, but I don't know what to say now. I have no road. She had probably a bunch of options for his response, and she did not expect that with where to go. Here's what she says next.
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The party is that historically wanted to cut through the red tape and not create more red tape. But I do want to move on because... Well, no, no, no.
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But... We've also wanted to put in work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew out the deficit in 2020, and they never want to bring it back. But work requirements even pull well with the median Democratic voter, maybe not the...
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So I'm just saying to you as politely as I can that you're an idiot and I'm doing way, way better in this discussion than you are right now. That was excellently done. That was professionally done to a degree that some of us aren't capable of when we wind up arguing with someone that wants to just change facts and reshape things to fit agenda, to fit narratives, as opposed to actually just tell the freaking truth. I feel like that's got to be the campaign of somebody somewhere in media in the near future is that they just look at you and go, we're going to tell you the freaking truth. I mean, Dana does this every day. So Dana certainly could say this, but there's a lot of people that could be out there saying, hey, do you want the freaking truth? We will give it to you regardless of if it damages us or damages, you know, the other side of the aisle. That's not the point. The point is telling you the truth. In case in point to that might be this story about Epstein, which I won't get too much here, but I will just say that the fact that Dan Bongino is one of the two anchors, one of the two names behind the FBI right now, that is telling us that there's nothing there there. With Epstein and a potential client list and, you know, his suicide not being a suicide. It's amazing. The reason it's amazing is because Bongino for years in his media places would absolutely be telling you something else was going to happen. And then he got in a position of power. He actually looked into stuff. And he's telling us the truth the way the other administration refused to. They could have put any of this information out. Anything that's being released right now that the FBI has, they had during the Biden administration. And whether or not there's some stuff that they used to have that they don't have anymore that they destroyed, I don't know. We can never answer that question, sadly. At least the current administration can't. But the stuff that they are putting out is stuff we had for the last few years. And so the big question is, why would Democrats want a conspiracy theory to remain because they don't answer the question definitively? And why would they allow Republicans to do it, assuming maybe they never would? And yet they are. Republicans are putting the real information out there, or at least these individuals are, to their own personal harm. It doesn't make their brand look uniquely good today, and they don't seem to care because they're going to tell you the freaking truth no matter what. And I love that. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. D-Lash, Dana Lash, Radio and X on Twitter to stay connected to her at Radio Craig C. If you want to be one of the 400 or so people that follow me on that platform that I barely use, that'd be awesome. I'll go ahead and add to that. Florida just recently added a super speeder law. Anyone that goes over 100 miles an hour can get caught with a unique violation in Florida. You actually land in jail for 30 days. Within hours of this being implemented, a guy got arrested doing 104 miles per hour in Florida because darn it, it's Florida. And this is a Florida guy. This is audio of the guy being pulled over and talking to the lieutenant who was telling him about the brand new law that he has already violated shortly after it became a thing.
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The reason being, stop the speed limit at 70 miles an hour. You're doing 104.
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If you're doing 50 miles over the posted speed limit, or again, 100 or more, you could face 30 days in jail and a $500 fine, or both. If you do it a second time, it could be 90 days in jail, $1,000 fine, or both.
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Not good. Yeah, he was doing 104. When he's supposed to be doing 70, that's too fast. That's 30 days in jail for you, sir, and that's a Florida man doing Florida man things. The super speeder law is probably going to catch more people doing that. You know, I'll say one thing about this. And I only lived in Florida for a very short amount of time. I lived in the Midwest for a long time. I live in Texas now. I did live in Florida for just a little bit. It's uniquely tempting on the highways of a Florida, especially on a nice day, to try to figure out how fast your car goes. And every single vehicle I've ever owned, I eventually found out how fast they go. I have a nicer car now. Uh, I usually do not have a nice car. So finding out how fast my vehicles go is never really a risk. I haven't done it yet with the current vehicle. If I do, uh, I don't know. But it's usually a back road or something. You choose for that. I'm not saying this is good. I'm certainly not advocating for any of this. Break the law, get caught. That's what happens. But I understand the temptation, I guess, as far as Florida man goes. And again, I only lived there for a little time. I'm not sure how much I became a Florida man mentally myself. But I get the temptation. I do. But super speeder law, that's going to be rough for you, bud. St. Petersburg, Florida, a guy had a bomb threat that he called into the St. Pete Clearwater International Airport there. The reason the guy did it is probably just because he wanted to get on the flight later. The identified suspect is 27-year-old Taj Taylor, who they say told another passenger that his laptop was a bomb. The passenger who was heading to a different airport, they were to plane but expected to arrive at their destination at 8.09. What I think is also interesting about this is the guy and what he chose to do and how he chose to do it and how annoying it would be to have your flight plans delayed, rerouted, changed in any way, shape, or form because of a moron who wants to pretend that their laptop is a bump. And then you've got to believe it. You've got to accept it. You've got to talk about it and have other people investigate it. All those things have to happen. Because a Florida man wants to be a dumb moron for some reason. Another guy out there, 60 years old, lost $1.6 million in an elaborate investment scam, the man is saying. It was fronted by a woman that he'd known for many years. Real estate scams are becoming all too significant of a thing. Authorities say Del Carmen wound up stealing $1.6 million. from a guy named Jose Luis Fernandez. Now, this is in sunny Isles Beach, Florida. Through an elaborate real estate fraud scheme, Fernandez's life will never be the same. He said he's lost everything. He's uniquely upset. Of course he is about all this. But the question remains, Why you go all the way 1.6 million deep into something that's not returning funds to you? Why do you keep believing that you need to give more? The initial investment was like $842,000. And then when Carmen kept coming back to the guy asking for more money, he kept giving it to her. And it might be because of how long again they'd known each other. or whatever else it is. And that's really the most tragic, the saddest part of the investment scheme like this is that, you know, if someone's taken advantage of, there's no way to recover the funds. So that part is probably over forever. Yes, that's one story out there. One last one with a Florida guy involved in peeping into people's windows who thankfully got arrested for that, because of course he did. Florida man on a Monday, man, crazy after a holiday. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins, filling in. Thrilled to be with you. So many things to talk about. I do want to do a rapid-fire version of some of the biggest stories out there right now. Of course, there's an ongoing discussion about a tragedy that happened in Texas. This happened when some flooding of the Guadalupe River caused a lot of people to be in harm's way very, very quickly. Essentially, four months' worth of rain happened in parts of Texas that are used to rain in general. But the reason to bring up this topic and to talk about it all, other than to state that it's a tragedy, and our hearts should go out, our prayers should go out to the families of the loved ones, including children, 27 children, so far as the numbers currently are updated, that have been lost to this. The other reason to bring it up is that people have politicized this and claimed that it was because of staffing changes by Doge or by President Trump. at the National Weather Institute or the National Weather Service that may have caused some of these problems. The Weather Service has come out defiantly defending themselves, saying that they warned people in the area they did just as much as they would possibly have done if they had more staff or not. That has nothing to do with them. And one of the things they actually said is that there might be a lot of fatigue in Kerr County for people and warnings because they get warned a lot and nothing quite like this usually happens because that area is actually thought to be one of the more dangerous areas in the country as far as likelihood of bad weather events are concerned. And nonetheless, as I say all that, the part that's not lost on me is that it's absolutely horrific to turn this into discussion about whose fault it is politically, when the truth is that it's an utter tragedy and it seems to be an act of God. And as I said before, and I'm a person of faith, Catholic, that doesn't mean that you blame God, and I understand people who get out there and yell and scream and get frustrated if you have faith or if you don't, but it might be a moment to really turn to your faith and really believe uh... in a couple things one of those things as dark as it is to maybe say it is that your loved ones are are now in a better place uh... as horrible as it is to lose loved ones as horrible as this tragedy would be something might give you any grain of solace i'm not sure if if it does or not is the idea that they're in heaven uh... especially children uh... but again like none of that it pales in comparison to having a discussion about that the pain in the tragedy of this and why people need to politicize it even celebrated There's a local doctor in Houston that Patriot Talk 920 outed. Patriot Talk 920 is a radio station that I happen to work at. This Dana show actually airs on a Dana affiliate. But they helped raise, they, we helped raise the alarm to an individual who put out on social media a celebratory post about how they, were sad for any children and innocent people, essentially, I'm paraphrasing, who lost their lives, any non-MAGA voters, but that everybody else more or less deserved it. Again, I'm not quoting verbatim the teacher, and I actually don't even want to say her name anymore because I don't want to give her any sort of weird publicity she might have wanted. But she's been fired. And thank God the organization who employed her made that decision and made that decision quickly because of how awful it is. But she wasn't alone. There were a ton of other social media comments and people out there saying horrible things that seemed to be said. How can our differences be this far apart? that people cheer for death. I mean, when someone almost killed President Trump when he's running for office, there were people that were sad that the bullet didn't kill the man. And it's just surreal to see versions of this. And I know that that's unique because it's a politician. And so maybe you'd think that more people would act like human or act with humanity when they see the issue is affecting people who are not even politically important. They're humans. They're everyday you and me people. Although politicians are also those people. But nonetheless, as I say that, it's still the lack of humanity is stunning in some of these discussions. And it's just it's awful. One thing I do want to praise, though, in light of this tragedy is a rescue swimmer. His name is Scott Ruskin. He saved 165 people by being dropped into this chaos after hours of being on a helicopter trying to get in. He's a Coast Guard swimmer. He's a toxic man, is what some people might want to call him. And apparently that is a tremendously good thing. But I loved his Good Morning America interview he did today because of how nonchalantly he talks about the incredible danger that he faced and how he faced it like it was no big deal and saved a lot of people's lives, including a lot of children. This person deserves... tremendous praise today and honestly the fact that he was raised to be a toxic man who does good things who acts like the the bad bleep that he is is wonderful for me here we go scott ruskin joins us now scott thank you for joining us this morning tell us what happened
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Hey, good morning, everyone. Yeah, so I'll kind of give you guys a quick synopsis of what was going on. The Coast Guard launched us and decided to send a rescue crew from Air Station Corpus Christi at about 6.30, 7 a.m. on Friday, the 4th of July. I just happened to be on the duty crew with Ian Hopper, Blair Boucher, Seth Reeves, some of our crew members in the Coast Guard. And, yeah, they sent us out. We kind of encountered some pretty serious weather, some of the worst flying we've ever dealt with personally. It took us, you know, what should have been an hour flight, probably took us about seven or eight just to get into the landing zone. Once made about four different approaches trying to get in, we were able to get our boots on the ground with the Air National Guard, Department of Public Safety for Texas, game wardens. And we decided to leave me on scene at Camp Mystic. That was kind of our main triage site we were trying to help out with. We decide, hey, if we leave the rescue somewhere on scene, we'll have more space in our Dolphin MH65. So based on that, I got on scene, boots on the ground at Camp Mystic. Kind of discovered I was the only person there as far as first responders go. So yeah, I had about 200 kids mostly, all scared, terrified, cold, having probably the worst day of their life. And I just kind of needed to triage them, get them to a higher level of care and get them off though.
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It's amazing. to hear him talk about this like it's no big deal. Like, it's incredible. I know humility is an amazing thing from anybody, especially a hero like this. But I just, I can't get over how well-trained he sounds. And I was like, yeah, you know, they decided to just leave me. Chaotic day, craziness, took us multiple hours to get into this place. And when we finally got there, we all discussed it. We're like, yeah, just leave me. I'll stay behind. I'll save everybody's life. No big deal. Just a typical day working this. I love that he also says he happened to be the one there. You know, because that is the way that a lot of military guys and women act. Like, well, I was the one that needed to act in this moment. I was trained to do it, so I'm going to do what I was trained to do. Here's a little bit more from him.
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A flood zone with a lot of the U.S. 60 Army helicopters.
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Talk about how that works. You've got 165, close to 200 kids there. How do you get them out? Just one by one?
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Yeah, sir, it's a great question. Yes, so the United States Army National Guard was landing their 60s with Task Force One, some of their rescue swimmers, and they were able to land. We kind of came up with two different landing zones. There's one off an archery field and then one at a soccer field. So, yeah, we were able to kind of land those 60s in there. And then I was kind of the main guy as far as grabbing people. usually like 15 to 10 kids at a time, maybe one adult with them, and bringing them over to those 60s and getting them to a different LZ.
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It is incredible. You know, I don't tell this story often on the radio, and I actually, it's not even remotely close to the situation that this Coast Guard is talking about, but I grew up in New Jersey, and I remember a flood that happened that totally ruined our house, and we didn't leave. I don't remember why or if it was like very quick, the same kind of thing that happened here, But the neighbor next door lived on a hill. And I remember the guy, the dad, he had three kids of his own and a wife. He came over, he knocked on our door as the flooding started to get bad. And he's like, hey, you guys need help. And my mom, a mother of four kids, a single mother of four kids, was like, yes, we need help. So this guy, this neighbor, like took my brother and I, who were little kids at the time, and just brought us across to his house. And then I think the girls, I got across next and my mom got across last. And eventually we're all just in his house and very sadly watching our house get ruined by a flood. But happy to be there and happy that some guy just decided to jump in the water and save us. And so this dude did this for tons of people. And it's amazing to hear this story. And again, just the nonchalantness of it. And I know the political twist of calling it toxic masculinity. I don't think Scott Ruskin would describe himself as a toxic man. But a lot of people might have described him that during his life. Because he's just a bad bleep who does bad bleep things. This is amazing. And so I do love this story in light of a tragedy. And these are the kind of things we should be talking about. We should be having a deeper discussion about this than some of the other things out there. Now, granted, I also think one of the bigger news stories today is the gunman in tactical gear who attacked the Border Patrol agents in McAllen, Texas. He learned that you shouldn't do that because he was subdued and or just killed. He was stopped, prevented, whatever word you want to use. He was shot. The threat was ended. He did hurt at least one Border Patrol agent, shot a guy in the knee. That guy will be OK. At least two other border agents were injured in this attack. And it's crazy. And the guy out of Michigan and I have the CNN audio because it makes me the most mad of any audio that I'll play today on this topic. But the thing that I can't get over is this. Some media is trying to pretend as though the guy's last name isn't what it is because it's a a Hispanic sounding last name. It's a Latin sounding last name. And whether or not the guy is from the United States or from somewhere else, his last known address was in Michigan. All of that. It feels like news is just trying to avoid those questions by referring to him as Ryan Lewis instead of his actual name, which is Ryan Lewis Mosqueda. And that obviously is something that they're too afraid of. uh... these media outlets in telling the truth on because they think it's gonna radicalize somewhat although they're totally fine telling you about apps that help you track ice agents that are coming in and out of your community with a seven hundred percent increase in the amount of violence that ice agents are facing they're totally fine talking about that because they think cooler heads will prevail they think you'll just use it for the reasons they say which according to them are just to have people who are maybe going to get caught being here illegally run And so media pretends both things exist. They pretend people can hear one story and filter it the way they want them to filter it to not do the horrible thing that people are doing. And then they refuse to tell you the story about something else because they're afraid you're going to act on it and not believe that you could be smart enough to not do that. But here's the way CNN discussed this story.
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We got multiple teams working this story as we learn more about this breaking news. But apparently a man showed up to this facility this morning with tactical gear and a rifle opening fire on those agents at the front. Fire was returned. Dozens of shots was fired. And we have confirmed that man was killed in this. He's a bit identified as Ryan Lewis, 27 years old. But as we show you these images, obviously very concerning. This man with a rifle and that tactical gear showing up. You can see the image of him down. Right there.
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Ryan Lewis Mosqueda is the guy's name. And I still think the individual deserves the punishment. I'm not trying to tell you that anybody who has a last name like his now deserves to be looked at like they're about to, you know, attack a border facility in McAllen, Texas. I'm not insane. And I know that the left likes to pretend that when you say one thing, you mean the insane, ridiculous, exaggerated thing. But as I say that, you also need to tell us the truth. The whole story. Trump is going to visit Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister Netanyahu. and have a conversation. A lot of people are reporting, Axios among them, that the hope is that they will align in their efforts to end the war in Gaza and that anything that may have happened after President Trump believed that things like a ceasefire were in effect And then some additional strikes occurred that hopefully President Trump can cause this situation to change moving forward so that when we expect something, that's the thing we actually get. President Trump or peacemaker in chief has had a lot of successes recently in finding ways to end conflicts. He won't be praised for it because of the amount of people who hate him, and he'll certainly be attacked for anything they think they can blame on him, but nonetheless, it's pretty interesting. And then also, just one last thing for news stories out there, tariffs. Apparently, tariffs might have been wildly effective. The United States, over the next two days, is likely to announce a tremendous amount of trade deals right before tariffs swing back into effect. If that occurs the way they're saying it's going to occur, Media will refuse to give him credit. Once again, it'll seem like a good thing happened. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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This is the Quick Five on the Dana Show. D-Lash, Dana Lash, Radio on X on Twitter. To stay connected to all things her, at Radio Craig C. If you want to help me have a not embarrassing amount of followers on that social media page for me. But that's up to you. Jurassic World crushed box office expectations. It still came in under many of the other Jurassic Park movies that have been released. But $318 million globally. $147 million domestically. A whole lot of money. raised by scarlett johansson yelling about dinosaurs along with marshalla ali and others i just thought this was a really interesting story because expectations had the money down to 250 260 and it went way above that so a good job jurassic world for bringing people out to the box office on the holiday people will go see movies you just got to have the movies be good Mexico defeated the U.S. for the nation's 10th Gold Cup title. I was there at that game. Kind of funny. And I'm going to definitely praise Game Time Tickets because they really do the thing they say they're going to do, which is as the game gets closer, prices on tickets drop dramatically. And if you even wait for the game to have started, which may or may not have happened with my wife and I, since we actually live relatively close to NRG, that stadium, and she's from Mexico, so she wanted to see this game. If you wait a little bit into the game, prices go down even more. We still got nosebleed seats. And that was a tremendous discussion between the wife and I, because I was like the cheapest possible ticket seems to still be valuable. And she agreed. But part of me was tempted when the price kept going down for the better seats to be like, well, if we're spending money on this. But we went the air. We aired on the side of spend as little as possible. So we got in the game for a ridiculous deal and got to see it at least a little bit more than half of it. So that was a lot of fun, even if it had a sad ending for anyone here from the United States. Although I would say that stadium was uniquely pro Mexico. I did not feel like that game was happening in this side of the border based on the amount of people that were cheering when Mexico took the lead. One other thing out there, Costco revealed several items that you definitely should stop using immediately. I have bought from them two different brands of window air conditioner, a Danby one and a Madea one. You need to stop using them if you bought them between 2001 and 2002 or 2001 and 2005, respectively, apparently for horrible growth of mold reasons. This is Craig filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. DLash, DanaLashRadio on Twitter to stay connected to her at RadioCraigC. This is just something I keep throwing out for me. My following is very small, so if you decide to follow it, Don't expect much there, but I wouldn't hate it to have more people paying attention out of my Twitter. All right, let's move on. Trump's health bill is likely to have effects that won't be felt till after the midterm elections. That's according to Axios and some others reporting on this. Here's why I find this amazing. The big, beautiful bill has now been signed as the big, beautiful law. It's going to have a tremendous amount of impact on our economy, on our taxes, on all kinds of things. And the amount of people who are saying it's going to be bad. They're like all the negatives, the horrible deficit things, all that stuff. they're telling you you might not notice it until after you voted people into power again because they want you to vote the other side into power but they don't want you to do it based on your own personal experience that's something i love about the way the left specifically handles things is when they say to you like don't worry about what you're feeling or seeing that's not important You need to just worry about what we're telling you is coming, whether it ever happens. So that's one story out there. Trump has also sent out 12 more tariff letters today. This is letting certain countries know that deals need to be made or tariffs are going to be changing. Japan is on the list of people that are going to have pretty significant tariffs since they've balked at actually doing a deal with us. If all of this ends with us having way better trade deals, way less trade deficit with a bunch of countries in the world, It is a win for President Trump. People don't seem to want to admit that, but it would be a win for him if that does occur. We're still yet to see enough deals come across the table, although there is a claim that a lot of that's going to be happening today and tomorrow, too. So I will continue to wait and react to the actual information I have and not do the thing Axios is doing about the Medicaid, Medicare changes, which, by the way, are kind of ridiculous. I do have some audio I want to play in just a second. of uh... the way that certain uh... political people or certain administrative officials i'd just absolutely owned uh... the left and how they want to talk about medicaid medicare and all these different changes and actually use like real fax information instead of opinions that people then pretend are actual fax information when in fact they are not up before i get there another thing i wanted to mention uh... there is a lot of news about tesla and their shares diving This is after Elon Musk announced that he was going to start the American Party because he is upset with the way things happened as far as the big, beautiful law, big, beautiful bill is concerned. He wanted it to go differently than it wound up going. And so he's launching his own party. The party sounds eerily similar. To many of the things that were part of the No Labels Party or other parties that never really took off. So you'll see what the end results are. Elon Musk keeps saying that he's going to focus on winnable smaller cases or smaller races at first. And then eventually start to grow the party to win more significant things down the road. But who knows? We'll see if any of that at all happens. But that is essentially the conversation with Elon Musk and how much it harms the brand Tesla or any of the other brands that he's in charge of. And it seems to be kind of significant. So will he have the amount of money? I'm sure he will to actually damage the political system as much as he wants to or change it as much as he wants to, whether you like or dislike what he's going to do. I think he'll just siphon off votes. for conservatives and republicans which means democrats will be more likely to win races would not be good night a couple other things that are big news stories uh... dan bongino uh... cash patel ham bondi all the people that told you for a while that they were going to investigate at the epstein client list and jeffrey epstein's mysterious death or his suicide They've come out and told you that there's nothing there, that apparently all this stuff that even some of them really talked about and said, certainly Bongino, as a media personality, was assuming that there was going to be a deep rabbit hole here where a lot of information got exposed. uh... centrally that didn't occur what i think is wonderful is that the people who've told us this information uh... did it at their own detriment meaning that it doesn't make them look particularly great that the information that they promised us for years was going to be damaging isn't But it demonstrates their willingness to tell us the truth no matter what it is, which the other administration before could have done. Biden's team could have released all the things that Bongino and Patel and Bondi are releasing. And who knows what things could have existed that no longer exist because the people in charge can only work with the current information they have, the 300 gigabytes or whatever of data that they said they found on this. and tell us the simple truth about it uh... the white house press secretary caroline levitt was asked about this and this was part of her response on the uh... jeffrey epstein issue or the jeffrey epstein story and the end result of the uh... finishing of the you know investigation by the d o j and by the fbi re jeffrey epstein according to the report this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list
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So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?
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Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News. Go ahead.
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John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.
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Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that. But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars. They have an operation.
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Look, here's what's really interesting to me, too. You probably know that voice. That's the deuce. That's Peter Doocy. And what I love so much about this is that he's actually holding the feet to the fire of the other side. This is something where he went viral all the time for the tough questions. that he asked the former White House press secretaries who worked for President Biden, and people said he was ridiculous, or they'd even make jokes about him. And Leavitt had to take some tough questions from him, including that one, because there is audio of Pam Bondi referring to the client list being on her desk. In the follow-up question that Fox News asked about this, she said that there was... Nothing that she had seen so far that had been like shocking to her because essentially that was the second question, which seems to align with the fact that there is no significant story here. I don't know what you're. You're going to believe this. I don't know if you're going to believe that information was deleted and destroyed, which I can't tell you that's not true. That might be true. A part of me believes that that had to be what happened, too. But I can't say that factually, so I can't tell you that I know that definitively. Or you think that it's still a cover-up? The odds of that, to me, are much lower. Because if Biden was in charge—well, was in charge. Actually, he wasn't. Other people were. Whoever was in charge when Biden was in office, if they would have kept a secret, anything that's incriminating to President Trump, that sounds insane like they they absolutely would put it out there no matter who of the damage they would have cared they were trying to kill trumpet roman jail but they really threw everything they had at the man so i i can't imagine any any version of you know past history would have included burying something trump's name was on it but so were other names and that seems to then be true about the current uh... people in charge as i doubt they do something to benefit president trump which is what the left-leaning conspiracy theorists are saying today which is weird because they didn't care at all about the Epstein client list until rather recently. All right, another thing that I want to play, I referenced it a second ago before we take a break. This is Dana Bash trying to go after someone in the world of Medicaid and Medicare, and she just made the wrong pick. If you go for the U.S. Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besant, you better actually have the information necessary to demonstrate to him that what you're saying is true and what he's saying is false. If you ask him a question, a very leading one, and you get a bunch of things wrong, he's going to come at you. He's going to come at you in a way that was just so expertly done. Just chef's kiss version of how this back and forth went. The Dana Bash of CNN at one point seemed to not know what she wanted to say next because she was stunned. But here it is.
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I'm sure you've seen and heard a lot of the concern. including and especially from Republicans who are the most vocal in Congress about the fact that those work requirements are going to be very cumbersome to actually prove. And it will inevitably force the people who need that Medicaid coverage off the rolls.
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Well, first of all, it's the Republicans are not the most vocal on this. It is a group of Democrats who unfortunately seem to think that poor people are stupid. albany or people are stupid i think they have agency and i think they have them registered twice a year for these benefits it is not a burden it is amazing to hear the way to cnn also treats a lot of the people who watch their station like they're more like the radius the democratic party does this a lot of the voters
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uh... the the party that tries to protect you from certain truths and information they can't tell you as you won't understand it correctly et cetera et cetera and so to say that poor people have agency is justin expert way to go about saying that i think that people are smart and they can use the systems and the, you know, technology that exists today to handle simple requirements, basic hurdle jumping that we need because of how fraught with abuse the system is. And just saying it like that, and Bass just saying they're like, whoa, I didn't know he was going to say that I'm calling people stupid and that he's calling them smart on my own show.
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But these people who want to infantilize the poor and those who need these Medicaid benefits are alarmist.
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Yeah, but... My impression of the Republican Party is that... I love that but.
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It's so good because of the delay.
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Historically, you've wanted to cut through the red tape and not create more red tape. But I do want to move on because... Well, no, no, no.
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But we've also wanted to put in work requirements, which somehow... that was very popular under Bill Clinton, was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew out the deficit in 2020, and they never want to bring it back. But work requirements even pull well with the median Democratic voter, maybe not the frame.
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You're an idiot. is essentially what he's saying to her, but he's saying it in such a polite and awesome and well factually checked way that there's nothing you can do about that. I love that she wanted to move on, but she wanted to jab in and he expertly parried that jab as well. Just fantastic. And honestly, obviously what a lot of people do want We want more hurdles because we want abuse to be removed from a system that is really supposed to just be there for people who absolutely need it. And it's very different than saying we just want to end the program entirely and no one can have it anymore, which is what Democrats want to pretend Republicans are saying to then say that they're heartless Republicans awful, terrible people that want to kill individuals. And a bunch of places have already said the amount of people they think the big, beautiful bill will kill is this number or that number, and no one has any idea how their math got where it did. All right, we'll take a break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about today and very little time to do any of the rest of this. There is a new law in Tennessee that makes it illegal to bully people, which it probably already was. But if you're found guilty of it, you could have your license suspended if you're a younger person or I think probably anybody. But here's a little bit of audio of an attorney talking about the new law and some of the controversial reactions to it.
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A lot of these cases won't go to trial. They'll wind up getting resolved. Basically, if you're convicted of this, your license is going to be suspended for the year. You can get a limited license, but you're going to be stuck with that one year suspension.
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By the way, a limited license typically means you're allowed to commute to and from work if you have a job that you need to get to via a vehicle. But if you're found driving and you're not actually commuting to or from a place of work, air in trouble or someone who has like a medical thing they have to deal with are there a couple things where you can prove that in this instance you were legally allowed to drive i don't hate this as a punishment uh... i know that it seems to be an infringement on you know our fights uh... because the government is stepping into a place that it shouldn't necessarily be stepping into and so there is cause for concern But bullying is uniquely damaging to kids, and there's a whole lot of it that goes on. I would be curious, though, what they eventually define bullying as. Tennessee is a conservative state, and so is bullying gonna be something where one child is making another child feel bad about their physical appearance to a degree that that child might harm themself? That's the kind of bullying I'd be worried about. Are they talking about politics? Are these adults that are having a conversation? with the decide someone is bullied because of the political uh... you know opinions one person has not the other one of course i hope that is not the case as it does feel like there's a potential for a significant slippery slope here uh... but nonetheless getting kids to stop being jerks to other kids since involving the parents hasn't seemed to work, does seem like a valuable thing to try to achieve. How you go about that, I'm not sure. This is one attempt being done, again, in a state that I'm more comfortable with it happening in because of the political slant of that state than another place, which is just me simply saying the truth. I would be much more worried if a place like Illinois were instituting this and what they determined to be, you know, Some sort of abuse or some sort of bullying because they would see a lot of things politically, at least the people in charge of that state would see a lot of things politically differently than I would. And they might encourage you to think of those things as bullying so they can throw whoever they want, who's cow, or at least take away their license. All right, some other things out there. I thought this was interesting. A woman went viral for being a professional car sitter in New York City. She rides around in people's vehicles so they don't get towed by street sweepers and whatnot whenever they go on long vacations. So essentially they just give their keys to a stranger, much like babysitting your children, your pets, your house, house sitting. This is just car sitting and it's unique to big cities. There is nothing more devastating. than showing up after a trip away and having tickets or something on your vehicle because it was in a place it should have been in uh... during the time you were gone not necessarily the day you parked it there but someone did a street cleaning you didn't know was coming etcetera etcetera those things do matter uh... those things are annoying I don't know if I just trust a random stranger who has a social media profile or some sort of advertisement line claiming they're going to car sit for me. I think I'd rather have a friend or family member do that. But this girl is making a ton of money doing it. So more power to her. Another story out there I saw, which is crazy. There's a woman who went viral for saying that she's addicted to sunbathing. Her name is Megan. She's 19 years old. She does not look the way you should look as a human being that's tan because she is insanely, insanely tan. She said it's become so much of a problem that she's actually been banned by some of the local tanning salons that she goes to. And she's also potentially afraid of cancer scares. She finds moles on her body from time to time. But she seems to be going viral partially because she's also trying to brag about how tan she is. And I don't know how to deal with that part of it. She seems to be much more proud. It seems like a mental health issue. But she seems to be much more proud of the extent of her tanning than she should be. And I know that people make all kinds of jokes politically about Trump or others. They call him Orange Man. This level of tanning that this woman has is actually the version worth things seem to be very, very bad and not okay for a person who should not, you know, naturally look the way she looks. This seems to be the real version of the thing. So I just, that ran through my mind too, is that all the people you might make fun of politically that you think have bad spray tans or something going on and no one usually looks like this individual. So really, I do hope that person gets help since a portion of them sharing online that they've been banned from tanning places and whatnot seems to be they're still pretty proud of tanning. And then one last thing. A majority of childless dog owners say their lives revolve more around their pets than they should. This survey was asking essentially people without kids if they treat their pets like kids. And a whole bunch of places out there that demonstrate how much money you can spend on pets probably say that this is true. I felt bad when I read this story. I felt bad for anyone that does maybe lean too hard into your pet as a way to replace a child. And I am someone who didn't have the joy of getting kids. My wife and I weren't able to have them. And so we do have a pet dog. And so there are things that happen. But I feel bad whenever people seem to overly value something and not something else because they're not the same thing. My dog is great. We're never going to have a lovely conversation about certain stuff. All right. On that note, uplifting as it was, I'm out of here for the day. Dana is back tomorrow. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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In today's episode, Mike Gallagher tackles the challenging topics of blame, political division, and the role of new political movements. With the specter of a potential third party led by Elon Musk, conservatives must ponder the future of MAGA and the implications of political fragmentation. Tune in as Mike engages with listeners and fields their concerns amidst the many breaking stories.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Wow, this is going to be a day. Happy Monday. Golly, we've got a lot to cover here today on this Monday, July the 7th, 2025. Welcome in. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. You're going to need it because we've got a lot of things to catch up on. We've been away for a few days. Many thanks to Carl Jackson, Joey Hudson for filling in while I got a little R&R. I always joke with Mark Davis, every time he goes on vacation, all you know what breaks loose. And it has broken loose in the last few days. Look at the list. This horrific, devastating, horrifying flooding in central Texas. Inevitably, the blame game is underway. Already there are questions being asked about the warning and the detection system. Already there are people who are trying to politicize it. Already there are people making race part of the story. This is inevitable. And I'm going to tell you something right now. I refuse to give any oxygen to some of these evil, evil people. We're not going to do it. The team has some clips ready for me. There's some lunatic out of Houston. She's attacking the children who died. Oh, yeah. literally attacking the children who died. I think that, as I understand it, their crime is their parents probably voted for Trump and they were white. Now, if you think I want to give that lunatic any oxygen, think again. It's like playing with a Ouija board. There's some things you just stay away from. There are some things that are so evil. There are some things that are so wrong. There are some things that are so terrible. that you don't come close to it. We can have a legitimate conversation about early warnings and whether or not there was proper notification. Of course, the left wants to blame Trump because they're going to blame Trump for everything. But ultimately, we're not going to go down that evil path of people who want to actually celebrate the deaths of all these babies, of all of these innocent little children, these little girls attending a Christian summer camp. The beloved camp director swept away. He died trying to save them, trying to rescue them. It's an awful story. I keep thinking about our Angel Tree campaign because these are the kind of camps we send these kids to. And we're working a lot right now behind the scenes, and I'll give you some more information as it becomes available. But, you know, we've got all that news breaking. We've got, I understand, flooding in North Carolina now as well. You've got the Elon Musk-Donald Trump feud. You've got all hell breaking loose there between Elon and President Trump. And I'm mystified at Elon. I think President Trump is mystified too. He can't believe it either. He's disappointed. He put out a lengthy statement suggesting that Trump is just saddened by what Elon is doing. He wants to form a third party? And I've got people in my life saying, oh, it's never going to get off the ground. Don't be so sure. Don't be so sure. Are you kidding me with just ignoring this? This is not an insignificant guy. Elon Musk puts a tweet out that gets 20 million responses. This guy's a massively influential person. What do you do when a massively influential person appears to step off the curb? What do you do when somebody as prominent as Elon Musk takes on not just Donald Trump, But MAGA, and that's what's happening here. He's taking on the whole movement. And he could try to destroy it. I don't know that he will. I got Pete Tracy. Oh, it's no big deal. He won't destroy the movement. Mark Davis. Oh, there's nothing. Ross Perot delivered Bill Clinton to this country for eight years. Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton for eight years. Elon Musk could do a lot worse damage than Bill Clinton even did. So, you know, we've got to wrap our brains around that as well. We'll tackle that when we can. We've got to talk about the one big beautiful bill. And back to Elon, he just posted something about the Epstein files. Riddle me this, Batman. How does Pam Bondi claim... that she has seen the Epstein list, and now the Department of Justice is telling us there isn't an Epstein list. What? What in the world is going on there? Well, here's 10 hours of video. See, nobody went in and out of his cell. Epstein killed himself, and there is no Epstein client file list. Wait a minute. I watched Pam Bondi on TV say she's seen the list. What is going on here? So I'm mystified by that as well. So, look, we've got so much to tackle today, and it's our mission to get it all in. 800-655-MIKE as we welcome you aboard to this Monday episode. 800-655-6453. I have a hunch there's a whole bunch of you who want to let your voice be heard and get it off your chest. So where do you want to begin? You want to talk about the flooding, the blame game? And, again, don't even bring up the people who are playing the race card game. And are blaming, you know, Trump supporters and all of that and blaming these little girls. Because we're not going to do that. I'm not going to touch that. That's evil. That's a level of evil. Now, we're witnessing evil. We're seeing GoFundMes for Luigi Mangione. I saw a report today at Axios that a lot of Democrats are calling on their elected members of Congress to get shot in an effort to stop Trump. I'm not kidding you. So they are in such a dark place right now, and I don't think we should avoid it or ignore it, but I also don't think we need to give it oxygen. Because sometimes evil is so bad that you don't come close to it. But feel free to join me and talk about the Elon Trump. The war. It's not a disagreement. It's kind of World War III here. Elon has gone DEFCON 1. Trump hasn't. Trump is just saying, I'm disappointed in the guy. He's mad about the EV mandates going away. But Musk is doubling down. He's taking on Trump. He's taking on the Republican Party. He's taking on MAGA. And he's threatening, promising to launch a third party, which could cause a lot of problems for us in the midterm elections. There's also news about John Brennan and Obama and Russiagate I got to tell you about. So all of it is, you know, right here waiting for you. 800-655-6453. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. 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Salem News Channel viewers seeing a live look of Jacksonville, Florida. We're glad you're tuning in. SNC.TV. Watch the show as well as listen to us on your favorite radio station. A lot of text messages on the MyPillow text line. Problem with a day like today is I don't even know where to begin, where to start, what to focus on. Elon? The Epstein Files? A lot of people are texting about Elon. California writes, Trump needs to invite Elon to the White House for dinner. Let him hash it out. If Trump can do that with a Kennedy, he should be able to do with Elon. That sort of reflects the way I feel about Elon Musk. I want Trump and Elon to bury the hatchet here. This is not good. And I'm not trying to be an alarmist. I'm not trying to overreact, but I don't want to underreact either. I don't want to slough this off and say, well, nothing bad can happen. Oh, something really bad can happen. Thanks to Ross Perot and his stupid third-party effort, pardon me, we got eight years of Bill Clinton because all he did was split Republican votes. Period. No way around this. And don't tell me it can't happen again. Text from Austin, Texas. My thoughts on the Elon Musk thing, he reminds me of a spoiled little child. He didn't get his way, so now he's pouting and he's going to do what he wants to do. Remember, he used to be a Democrat. He didn't get his way with Democrats, so he started supporting conservatism. Now he didn't get his way with us, so he wants to start his own party. Go ahead, Elon. Be the spoiled little rich kid that you are. Do what you want to do. Well, it's not that easy. This is not an insignificant guy. This is not a guy who isn't capable of winning over hearts and minds. And I can be aggravated like you are, Texas. Some people are theorizing it's going to be a good thing for our side. Do you think Democrats are now going to be enamored with Elon? You think they're going to go to the America Party or the American Party or whatever he's calling it? I don't know. Nathan's in Columbus, Ohio. 22 past the hour. We have an open line. 800-655-MIKE. Hi, Nathan. How are you?
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Good. How are you, sir?
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I'm okay. I'm just confused about this Elon Trump feud. How do you think this thing plays out?
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Oh, I... You know... I think he's tired of the bureaucratic mess that we have in Washington that we've had for a long time. I think that's what upset him about the big, beautiful bill and not getting the cuts that he wanted with all the work that he did with Doge. And I think he draws... and especially young Democrats to his side as well, I think this might be the party we've been waiting for. The one that actually drains the swamp.
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Yeah, well, I love your thinking. I love your wishful thinking. It's never going to happen. All it's going to do... We have a two-party system. And I know that a lot of people like you, and maybe me, to some degree, wish we didn't. I kind of wish we didn't have the excess spending, and I get it. But what you're suggesting is... and let's just be real, blow up MAGA and replace it with Elon's party. That's what you want, right?
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Well, do you think there's a strong contender from the Republican Party after Trump that can gather people the way that he did and help us to win in the next... Yeah, but we've got Trump now, though.
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We're in the middle of now. You know what our best chance to get out of this mess is now? Trump and MAGA.
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I believe that too, sir. I'm looking to the future, and I think that another party, a strong one, that Elon is, I think, is the same thinking that we share.
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Sure, fair enough.
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Let's get rid of all this dramatic BS.
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But now's not the time to do that. But I agree with you. Let's look at the future. Hey, 2026, 2028, 2030, whatever. Not now. You're not going to blow up MAGA now. And there is a little bit of a difference between the Ross Perot spoiler role that he played and today's MAGA. Ross Perot didn't have the kind of machine behind him that Trump has with MAGA. And people are furious at Elon Musk. But I know there are enough people like you who are kind of enamored with the idea. Ooh, it's kind of cool, a third party. We've got too much spending. You know, first of all, too much spending pretends that we don't have hundreds of senators and congressmen who are like a bunch of cats that need to be herded. I mean, it's unbelievable that people think in such a simple way that we can blow up the House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate, our entire form of government. Trump is... the answer right now to what we're facing. And you've got to go with the guy we put into office. And after a few months in office, you've got a guy like Elon throwing a massive temper tantrum, and he wants to burn it all down. And I get from this last caller, yeah, let's burn it all down. No, trust Trump. I'm told that our merchandise, our Trust Trump merchandise is flying off the shelves. If you want to get your own, go to MikeOnline.com and you'll see the Trust Trump t-shirts. You'll see the Trust Trump coffee mugs. You'll see the Trust Trump baseball caps. Give it to the doubter in your life. Trust Trump. MikeOnline.com. Or you can just text the keyword STORE to 800-655-MIKE. That's the MyPillow text line. I love getting your texts, incidentally. Please never text and drive. And remember, it's a real simple thing to do. Just 800-655-MIKE. Brought to you by MyPillow.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network. Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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America is grieving over the loss of at least 82 souls in Central Texas. It was a horrific weather event. Of course, the finger pointing and the blame game commences again. I didn't think that the lunatic left could get any lower than supporting Luigi Mangione or Hamas. I saw a headline today at Axios. The Democrats are expecting their Democrat congressman to get shot in order to oppose Donald Trump. I mean, the lows to which they're willing to go has no bottom. And I didn't think it would get much worse than it has, but then I read about the people who were actually celebrating the deaths of these little girls from the Christian summer camp, the mystic summer camp. And I made a decision. The normal formula for a talk show like mine would be to the righteous outrage at these demons, because that's a demonic thing to do. There's a woman in Houston, for example, who's getting a lot of media attention, and she worked for some government agency. She was a mayoral appointee for a food bank or something, and she's getting a lot of attention, and she seems to relish it. I looked at her video clips last night, and she loves it. She loves the attention. She loves disparaging the little girls who died and literally calling them a filthy name. celebrating their death. And, of course, their crime is that they're white and that their parents, in her twisted mind, probably voted for Trump so they got what they had coming to them. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't go near that kind of evil. Number one, I don't want to give anybody that kind of attention. And for me, number two, it's like playing with a Ouija board. There's some things you've got to stay away from. Some things that are so dark... So demonic, and that's the only word, and I don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole. I want to talk about the legitimate issues involving the flooding, how this disaster unfolded, and I think we know pretty much by now what happened. It has certainly happened before in Central Texas. It's not the first time that the community was devastated by flooding. There were warnings for the National Weather Service. The National Weather Service offices were overstaffed. People came in to assist. There wasn't a staffing shortage. The narrative that Donald Trump is to blame for this flooding is nothing but typical political posturing. But we have to be able to Tackle these tough issues. And what happened in Kerrville, what happened to these beautiful little babies, these children at this Christian summer camp and the adults that tried to save them, one guy bled out. He tried to save his family, and he put his arm through a glass window, and he cut open his arm. And no one could get to him. And he bled out. in the arms of his loved ones. There's so much grief and so much despair right now. I keep thinking about what we did in June with the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree summer camps. This Christian summer camp, I'm not sure that Angel Tree doesn't have a relationship with them. We're going to find out as the day progresses. And there's stories about heroes. There was a young man who literally saved hundreds of lives. A United States Coast Guard rescue swimmer by the name of Scott, petty officer, third class, 26 years old. He saved, are you ready for this? 165 victims as the only triage coordinator at the scene of the floods. So we know that what happened there, normal people would never blame a child for an eight-year-old's political persuasion or be gleeful over the horrific death of little sisters because they happen to be white, which is what some demons are doing. Avoid the demons. We're not going to give them oxygen. We're not going to give them any attention. We're not going to give them any airtime. Not here. Let somebody else do that. I stay away from demons. I don't want to give attention seekers what they crave. Now, I don't know if being an attention seeker sufficiently explains Elon Musk. Of course, a lot of stuff happened while I was away. And many thanks to Carl Jackson for filling in and Joey and the team holding down the fort while I was away. And it's great to be back to work. I've been dying to get back in front of a microphone. I was supposed to have a medical procedure today. And I told the doctor, no way. I can't stay off. I've got to be here. And I'm so glad that you're with us as well here in the Relief Factor Studios. Have our number ready because you're going to need it. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. We certainly know that what happened in Central Texas was a worst-case scenario. It happened overnight on a holiday weekend in a flood-prone area. Like I said, avoid the demons, but let's have the adult conversation about what went wrong, what could have been done, what more could have happened to prevent this from occurring. I wish we could prevent the Elon Musk-Donald Trump feud from proceeding. Somebody sent me a text as I walked into the studio today and said, Elon hasn't been right since he had that black eye. It was a few weeks ago. Remember when he showed up in the White House and he had a mysterious black eye? There's all kinds of buzz that, I mean, the Internet rumor is that Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, socked him in the eye. They got into a screaming match and they got physical. Elon's Tesla stock is plummeting. Investors are worried about his new America party or America's party, whatever it's called. Steve Bannon and Elon are feuding as well. Here's what Steve said on the war room about Mr. Musk.
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Elmo the MOOC, formerly known as Elon Musk, Elmo the MOOC, He's today in another smear, and only a foreigner could do this. Think about it. He's got up on Twitter right now a poll about starting an America party. A non-American starting an America party. No, brother, you're not an American. You're a South African. And if we take enough time and prove the facts of that, you should be deported because it's a crime of what you did among many.
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Now, as you might suspect, Elon didn't take too kindly to that, and he lashed back and got into all sort of personal attacks on Steve Bannon, and he needs to go to prison, and he's fat. I mean, this is ugly. This is ugly. But you want to know what's really ugly? If delusional Republicans who are upset about deficit spending don't vote for Republicans in the midterm election, and go with Elon's America Party, and then we lose congressional seats. You want to know what's really ugly? If we lose control of the House or the Senate and they begin impeaching Donald Trump again because we lose the majority. Ross Perot delivered Bill Clinton on a silver platter to the American public for eight years. It's generally accepted that if Ross Perot didn't mount his third-party effort, which was futile and useless, as third-party efforts generally are, we have a third party now. It's called MAGA. We have a third party. It's here. And it was delivered by the 45th and 47th president of the United States of America. I appreciate, as I've said all along, being upset about a lot of spending in the big beautiful bill. There is too much spending. There's no question about it. You know why there's too much spending? Because of people like Thomas Massey. Because of people in the House and the Senate who you have to negotiate with in order to get anything done. When you run a big company like Elon, you can do whatever you want. When you are the President of the United States... It's not that easy. For the United States of America. 800-655-MIKE. 16 past the hour. I hope you join us. 800-655-6453. Welcome in to a Monday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Are you talking about the big, beautiful bill? You all just try to scare America by telling millions of people are going to be cut off this thing. You're talking about the people that are on it illegally, that are gaming the system. No, we're not. The CBO is very clear. The bill does not do anything of what you've said, and all you've done is scare America, and you're not doing a service to this country, ma'am.
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Congressman Tim Burchett schooling a CNN anchor for scaring the... And that's what the left likes to do. They do a lot of things that... We're just not the same, are we? Back to this Elon Musk thing for just a moment. Elon now is bashing Pam Bondi. He posted something on X earlier today. He wrote, what's the time? Oh, look, it's no one has been arrested o'clock again. And then he put a clock that says the official Jeffrey Epstein pedophile arrest counter. Zero, zero, zero, zero. You get it. I don't know what to make about the Epstein news. Late Sunday night, the DOJ says, nothing here. No Epstein client list. Nope, nothing to see here. He killed himself. Look at the video. See, nobody comes or goes. I'm... Old enough to remember just a few months ago, Pam Bondi suggesting she was reviewing and had reviewed and was about to review the Epstein client list. Evidently, that list doesn't exist. Huh? Now, I have to admit, I'm a little hard-pressed to know with all the, you know what, breaking loose everywhere, why it matters. But what matters is, to me, the effectiveness, the efficiency, the competence of the Attorney General. And I know many, many people are not very confident in Pam Bondi. I like her. I think she did a great job in Florida, and I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. But I don't know how you go from telling Jesse Waters in Fox News that you're reviewing the Epstein client list, and then late last night, Trump's DOJ announces there's no Epstein client list, and no evidence that he was blackmailing anybody, no evidence that he was murdered, he killed himself, and let's move on. It's bizarre. But, you know, back to how different the two sides are. I always get a little – I have to cringe a little bit because I'm not really accustomed to using the word turd on air. But Cat Turd is a very popular social media influencer. In fact, I think he's even given access to the White House. I think he's had – didn't he meet with Caroline Levin or somebody recently? I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of the guy recently. Can you imagine that press briefing? There's Caroline Leavitt. All right, let's call on Cat Turd in the third row. What's your question today, Cat Turd? Mr. Turd? So here's Cat Turd's post today, though, that makes a lot of sense because he's so right. When the left is mad at Elon Musk, they firebomb Teslas, vandalize Tesla dealerships, key Teslas, shoot at Teslas, call Elon a Nazi and a fascist, protest in the streets, boycott X, boycott Tesla, boycott Starlink, try to tank his stocks. When MAGA gets mad at Elon, they, one, do badass memes and tweets, and two, none of the above. How right he is. We are not the same. We're not the movement that embraces violence the way they do. And they do. You don't think they embrace violence? A big piece in Axios today about Democrats who are frustrated that their elected representatives aren't doing enough to stand up to Trump. I'm reading today from Axios. At town halls, in their districts, and in one-on-one meetings with constituents and activists, Democrat members of Congress are facing a growing thrum of demands to break the rules, fight dirty, and not be afraid to get hurt. For months, Democrat lawmakers have fumed that their base's demands to fight harder misunderstand the lack of legislative and investigative power afforded to the minority party in Congress. I mean, the truth is, we have the majority. Let's not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. And Democrats are being told to literally get shot. To support the anti-Trump resistance. They want their elected representatives to get killed, I guess. They've got to fight harder. Go get shot. Boy, I thought they were upset about the January 6th insurrection, right? Well, now evidently, according to Axios, at town halls and one-on-one meetings, frustrated lunatic leftists want elected representatives to get violent. Get shot if you have to. because of the sense of fear and despair and anger. And boy, there is a lot of anger out there. There's got to be a lot of anger. One House Democrat told Axios, constituents have told them, civility isn't working. Oh, they're civil? This is what passes for civility? Prepare for violence to fight to protect our democracy. People are angry. Wow. 800-655-MIKE. So meanwhile, back to Elon. I saw another post that I really appreciated from Brendan Dilley on X. And let me share this with you and we'll take your calls. Dear Elon, I have no idea what the blank is going on. MAGA embraced you before you even endorsed President Trump because we appreciated your fight for freedom of speech when you purchased Twitter. We celebrated you joining the Trump train after deranged Democrats tried to kill him. We defended you when the left tried to cancel you. We rallied around you when the terrorist Democrats firebombed your vehicles and dealerships. We stepped up and bought subscriptions when advertisers abandoned your platform. We didn't expect blind loyalty, he writes. Oftentimes, President Trump will make moves that even we don't understand at first, but eventually make sense. We empathize with you feeling let down or betrayed over your EV mandate being canceled, your friend not getting a job to run NASA, and your distrust of the reconciliation bill. With all that being said, going scorched earth on President Trump and the millions of red-blooded Americans who stood with you in your time of need is not the path to victory. This is not how we save America, reach Mars, save the middle class, elevate those struggling at the bottom, preserve our culture and way of life. Nor is it how we come together as a nation. I humbly ask you to reconsider your current path. Give the president and MAGA a chance to show you that he's going to save this country and allow us to support your ambitions once again away from politics. Signed, Concerned MAGA. It's a great post from Brendan Dilley. Phil is in Arizona. 800-655-MIKE is our number. 18 before the hour. Hi, Phil. How are you?
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Doing good. I just wanted to pass on some information. Sure. That Trump and Elon Musk is knowing what's going on, but that's just a book I read. It's Bob Frisco catching the ascension wave. Everything you need to know, it's pretty much in there. That's all I got to say.
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Okay, thank you. Art in Oregon. Hey, Art, welcome back. Hey, Mike.
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Hey.
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Elon's got to quit being a crybaby, okay? He's got to grow up and smell the roses. Here in Oregon, we have the Democrat Party, we have the Republican Party, we have the Constitution Party, we have several parties, and most of the time... When the Republicans lose, it's because of all these other dang parties. Now, Elon wants to start another one, so we become more losers?
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Well, that's just it, Art. I mean, that's the problem. I mean, it sounds great initially at first blush. Oh, wow, isn't this exciting? A fiscally responsible third party. And in the meantime, we completely eradicate the momentum that Trump now has. We completely obliterate the victories that MAGA has achieved. We completely fall on our faces while they spend years trying to prop up a third party that probably won't work. Here's a text from Florida. Mike, a perfect example is back in 1912. Teddy Roosevelt started the Bull Moose Party. He split the Republican Party between him and Taft, and we got Woodrow Wilson as a result. If it weren't for the Bull Moose Party, Taft would have won the presidency. Well, we don't have to go to 1912. Ross Perot delivered Bill Clinton to the world. Had Ross Perot not splintered votes away, you know, sheared votes away from the Republican Party, we wouldn't have had eight years of Bill Clinton. Here's Greg in Battle Creek, Michigan. Mike, does Elon understand the significance of literally destroying the bedrock foundation of the USA if he goes through with this third-party adventure? Surely he understands that one person's vengeance is going to destroy a country with 340 million people. And finally to Colorado, who writes, and Colorado has the same kind of laissez-faire attitude as my buddy Mark Davis in Dallas. Mark is like, ah, nothing's going to happen. He's got a lot of bluster, and it's just going to, it'll fizzle out. And that's what Colorado writes. Elon Musk will wind up like Liz Cheney or Jeb Bush. Totally irrelevant. Don't worry too much about it. Well, I don't necessarily want to worry too much about it, but I'm not going to ignore the potential for terrific damage that Elon can inflict. If voters turn away from the Republican Party and embrace this third... Look at what's happening in New York right now. You've got three challengers. And I hope to talk to Curtis this week. Are we going to get him on the show? We've been trying for a week to get Curtis Lewa. I saw him over the weekend on Fox News. He was fantastic. Curtis is a legend in my mind. A lot of people don't take him seriously. They don't think he can win in running for the mayor of New York. I've got a theory that if he lost the beret, he'd pick up 20 points. I don't know. He loves that beret. He's going to join us, I guess, this Friday on the Mike Gallagher Show. So we'll talk to the one Republican candidate for mayor in New York. But the fact is, if the three challengers to this lunatic Mamdani, there were all kinds of new news about him, too. How he claimed he was black in order to gain admittance to college. A post resurfaced of him giving the Christopher Columbus statue the middle finger. and saying, take it down, I mean, the guy's a far-left, absolute maniac who's going to destroy New York City if he gets elected. If the three challengers, Cuomo, Eric Adams, and Curtis, all coalesced against one person, They'd beat this guy. But the three of them will splinter all the votes. You're going to spread it all out. You'll have a faction supporting Curtis. You'll have a faction supporting Eric Adams. You'll have a faction supporting Andrew Cuomo. And Mamdani is going to sneak into the office and win. And this guy could do grave damage to New York City. All the newspapers are lining up, the Wall Street Journal, the Boston Globe. Boston Globe calls him a fantasy designed for failure. Wall Street Journal with a very sober editorial saying how much significant damage he could do to New York City. The guy is a disaster. But when you've got a whole bunch of people driven by their egos saying, I'm the guy that can beat him, You've got a chance of making the catastrophic become a reality. Same thing could happen with Elon Musk and him with this ridiculous third-party effort. It's dangerous. And if we don't see right now how awful it would be to hand the keys over to today's Democrat Party, because let me be blunt, today's Democrat Party is a crap show. And that's not the word I'd like to use, but I'm a professional broadcaster, so I will. Today's Democrat Party is a crap show. They're in complete turmoil. They don't know whether to be far left. They don't want to know whether they should be left of center. They don't know whether they should be moderate. They don't know what they are. We know what they are. We know the lunacy of propping up Luigi Mangione and Zoran Mamdani. We know what they're capable of. We've seen the violence directed towards them. So many people, under the guise of Democrat policies and ideology, we know who they are. We know what they're capable of. For God's sake, New Yorkers, don't let them win. For God's sakes, America, don't let Elon blow up and burn it all down to hand everything over to the Democrats. Scary stuff. Scary stuff. 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SPEAKER 07 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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There will be an immediate declaration, a narrative emerging that Trump's cuts with Doge and trying to improve efficiency and cut government fraud, waste, and abuse led to this. And the usual suspects lined up, Rosie O'Donnell, all the rest of them. By the way, poor Rosie. She left the country to get away from it all, and she can't get away from it because she's got her nose buried in social media and cutting videos denouncing Trump and Republicans and the country. Why don't you go live your life, lady? You're in another country now. But anyway, there was Rosie and everybody lining up. Millions will die. Millions will die. Here we go again. And the narrative out of Kerrville is just not true. They were overstaffed. There were notifications. The National Weather Service gave plenty of notice. But do you know how many times they get flood watches and warnings in Central Texas? Happens all the time. Happens all the time. And this was, unfortunately, a worst-case scenario.
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That's what took me to the 2020 hindsight that I was talking about just before you and I spoke, is if there were a time machine possible to go back. I mean, during the... Leading into the evening hours, it was overnight, of course, July 3rd and 4th, where all this happened is in the wee hours of July 4th. Do you evacuate a camp with 800 kids in it? Because, hey, here comes another strong storm. And the short answer is no, probably not. They didn't know if they had people said, well, it would have seemed it would have seemed like an overreaction.
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But the finger pointing is inevitable. And I get that. And there's going to be a lot of blame game stuff going on. Right now, we need to try to help this community get through this devastation, this trauma, this terrible grief. And it's just heartbreaking. So stay tuned. We're going to reach out to Prison Fellowship later this morning, this afternoon, try to figure out what we can do maybe to help this community try to heal and recover.
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And look out for the scammers, because especially on places like Wild West environments like Facebook, they'll be like, hey, if you want to help Central Texas, go fund me, go fund me. No, no, no, no. Every major newspaper, major TV stations, major radio stations have a number of valid places where you can go. And in fact, some prison legislators, Jared Patterson and a couple of other folks have set up specific, very valid places to send your charitable dollars in.
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Prison fellowship is not a scammer. Prison fellowship is very legitimate. Prison fellowship is extremely credible, and that's why I'm hoping that maybe we can put something together. Incidentally, a quick note about identity theft, and be aware of this kind of stuff. We got a wonderful guy here, just a sidebar, here in Tampa Bay, Robert Haley, who's our chief engineer here. And he did a big effort to build out a TV studio for us. We have new monitors and lighting and all kinds of cool stuff in our studio. And the company wanted to reward him. And they had me go out to a grocery store and get some gift cards to give him as a show of thanks. One of the cards was $500. Mm-hmm. He activates it. You know how gift cards are like sealed in a piece of cardboard? Right. He opens it up, peels it open, activates it, says $500. He and his wife go from their house to the vet to do some vet services and pay with the card. The card's been completely wiped clean. There's a bunch of Chinese... um transactions these are like from china for paypal and not like a chili's gift card or a home depot gift card like a visa a credit card looking type gift sealed in a in an envelope sealed in cardboard and by from the time he activated it to the time he went to the vet which was a half hour they had they had they had uh hacked into that card and wiped it out and now we got a nightmare because you know try to deal with the visa gift card company it's like a third party and all. So just be aware, always have your eyes wide open, head on a swivel when it comes to identity theft. All right, let's dive in. Let's take two minutes to talk about Elon. Let's do it. Because we got, and you and I are coming off of what a weekend. I hope you, I know you guys had a wonderful vacation. I went back to Charleston and just loved Charleston and what a great American city and hot as blazes. Yeah, boy. But it was fun. We just had a nice relaxing, and I got to watch a lot of TV. I watched The Big Beautiful Bill. I was biting my nails down to the wire. What a long story that is when we get into the Thomas Massys of the world that is pushing back. But The Big Beautiful Bill is now reality. It has evidently set Elon off into the stratosphere like one of his rockets. He has gone ballistic. And did you see Trump's post about how sad he is that Elon has gone off the rails?
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He didn't come out and flame at him or make up a nickname for him or savage him or dash him against the rocks. It's kind of like a wayward child.
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This is just sad. He's just disappointed. And I don't know what's going on with this guy. MAGA has embraced Elon. We celebrated him joining the Trump train. We defended him when the left tried to cancel him. And in a sense, you know, and you know where I'm going with this, when he goes after Trump and he is brutally going after Trump, there's no way around this. He's coming after us. He's coming after MAGA.
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But the child metaphor still works. Because he's brilliant, but he's a big, giant baby. And this is no more significant than when your 8-year-old is throwing a tantrum because he won't eat his peas. I know it's a bigger deal, and you are concerned about the third party.
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He is not an insignificant person, Mark. He's a very significant guy with a lot of clout and a lot of power, and I think you minimize the ability for him to do damage at your own peril.
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I don't want anything to throw shade at Republican and conservative unity. Here's why the Elon third party will fail as much as almost. In 1992, there was huge dissatisfaction with both nominees, questions and dissatisfaction. People are mad at George Bush 41, and they didn't quite know what to think about Clinton, so that's how Perot gets 19%. None of that's happening here. Democrats don't know what to do, but Republicans are thrilled. We've rarely been happier. An Elon America Party candidate will be way too conservative for the left, and as far as conservatives go, we ain't
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shopping we're not looking the number of conservatives who are are disheartened is extremely small there is nowhere to go at the starting gate for this stupid third party of his that's earth logic you're using earth logic and you're not appreciating the fact that this would definitely hurt the republican party it's not my favorite thing but i don't think it will And I and I and I look, I want you to be right. You don't make don't make it. But I know a lot of people said the same thing about Ross Perot and Ross Perot delivered Bill Clinton to this country. Correct. Period. And Elon Musk and Elon Musk could deliver a liberal Democrat for eight years in an extremely close election.
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Even every little bit of mischief. You're right. I feel that's right.
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And I'm not I'm not sure that a slam dunk is in the cards for the midterms. This could impact the midterms in a big way. And that's apparently what he wants to do. He's got some bizarre. He doesn't really want to target the White House, but he wants to target two or three congressional seats.
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You've got to have candidates. You've got to have real people. You can't beat something with nothing. This is a real person.
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You don't fall in with Elon's party. All right. This is the same guy who told me Biden isn't going to step aside. So it's true. Well, it was pretty big. I pray for them to come back together again. And I saw one report over the weekend that they were going to meet at Mar-a-Lago. I thought, please, Lord, let that be true. Because this is not good, Mark. It's not good on any level.
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And Elon has to understand that with the rockets and the Teslas and the AI, he's a genius and has all that proper regard. But politically, Elon's a big deal politically for one reason, and that reason is Donald Trump. And if he burns that bridge, his political clock burns with it.
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This episode dives deep into the current crises and development issues facing our nation and abroad. We start with the community's struggle in Texas following devastating floods, a calamity that has united residents and prompted an outpouring of support. Congressman Chip Roy shares insights from the frontlines of this tragic event, highlighting the heroism and community spirit in the face of adversity and loss.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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I need to tell my community and those families who are waiting, this will be a rough week. Primary search continues. And we remain hopeful every foot, every mile, every bend of the river. I have said this a hundred times, and I will say it again. We need your prayers. We need your prayers.
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That was Joe Herring, mayor of Kerrville, Texas. Welcome to this July 7th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Search and rescue efforts continue today in the aftermath of devastating flash floods that swept through the Texas Hill Country. We'll bring you more on the tragedy and the ongoing response a little later when we're joined by Congressman Chip Roy, who represents the area impacted. Meanwhile, here in Washington, D.C., President Trump is preparing to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House this evening to discuss a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and possibly a long-term agreement with Iran.
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Tonight, President Trump will host the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, for dinner, where they will discuss the positive developments taking place in the Middle East region. This will be a dinner to talk about Operation Midnight Hammer, which was incredibly successful to talk about peace in Gaza and ending that conflict, as well as many other topics of discussion in relation to Israel and the United States.
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That was White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt earlier today. Ahead of the meeting, evangelical leaders are reminding the administration that dividing the land of Israel must not be a part of any peace deal. Joining me later to discuss that concern is former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, now dean of the School of Government at Regent University. And what's next on Capitol Hill now that the reconciliation bill is done? Texas Congressman Keith Self will join us with insights on the final bill and what Congress will turn to next. All of that and more on this Monday edition of Washington Watch. Right. As I mentioned, President Trump will be meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this evening in the White House. And the war in Gaza is expected to be the main subject of their discussion. On Friday, President Trump told reporters he was very optimistic that a ceasefire hostage deal between Israel and Hamas could be struck this week. But he acknowledged that the situation changes from day to day. The two sides still seem to have irreconcilable differences on how to bring the conflict to an end. Joining me now to discuss this and more, Congressman Keith Self, who serves on three House committees, including the Foreign Affairs Committee. He represents the third congressional district of Texas. Congressman, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us today.
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Thank you so much, Tony.
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Before we begin our discussion, I want to note how we are praying for the situation in Central Texas, which we're going to be discussing with one of your colleagues, Chip Roy, coming up next. Your district is in the northeast region of Texas, but I'm sure all of Texas has been touched by this tragedy.
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And we are praying that they find the survivors. There must be more survivors out there. They will find them. We also praying for the families. This is a tragic loss. 82 people, dozens of children. This is almost incomprehensible, Tony, what happened down there. We've checked and they are getting supplies that they need, most of what they need. So that's good. Continue to donate money and pray for the survivors that they will find.
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You know, it's events like this that makes us realize how fragile life really is. We go about our activities day after day after day. But when something like this occurs, obviously these families are changed forever. But it also leaves a mark on those who are paying attention that we realize how fragile life is.
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Horrific to lose girls that age. You're just not supposed to lose young children. It's devastating.
SPEAKER 06 :
Congressman, last week you were on the program before the reconciliation bill passed. You were against the bill then, but the House Freedom Caucus secured some agreements from the Trump administration that didn't change the bill, but did some things outside the bill that advanced some of the elements that were changed in the Senate. You ended up supporting the bill. Tell us why.
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Well, I supported the bill because we went through the permutations of the Senate, individual senators, and there was no way that we were going to get anything back from the Senate that would have been an improvement. It just was not going to happen. So therefore, we went outside the bill to make some requests. but things that might offset the damage that the Senate did to the bill. Because they inserted one simple paragraph that basically gutted the House provisions on the Green New Scam, for instance. So we got some things that I can't yet talk about, agreement, and we will see how they work going forward, that there are more cost cutting across the federal government. Tony, there are lots of places to cut costs across the federal government, as you know. We simply tried to find those areas and get agreement that we will work on those going forward.
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You know, I just wanted to bring that up because there was a lot of the Capitol Hill media saying that the Freedom Caucus folded, did not get anything. And in the end, they just rolled over. I know that is not the case because I had many conversations. And I think the bill, I shouldn't say the bill, the outcome was much better because the Freedom Caucus began to negotiate on the issue.
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Oh, absolutely. They started out with $300 billion, perhaps, in savings. $300 billion. What we got was a trillion and a half, well above that. So that's the progress that the Freedom Caucus, with other conservatives, and I want to say only the Freedom Caucus, we had a group of conservatives that worked with us to make this happen. I will tell you, Jody Arrington, the chairman of the Budget Committee, is a warrior. My Texas colleague is a warrior.
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Yeah, and I know that, as you said, there's some things you can't talk about, but some of the social issues that were of concern that were taken out in the Senate were also going to be addressed. We look forward to that coming out in the public here in the very near future to see what the administration has agreed to. All right. I want to switch gears now. I want to talk about the president meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this evening. You know, Hamas has been the one turning down proposals, these peace proposals that have come to the table. But given what we saw happen with Iran and how Israel has crippled the Hamas military infrastructure, is the message getting through to Hamas that it's time for them to bring this war to an end?
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I doubt it, Tony. I doubt it. I understand they're hoping to get 10 hostages released in the early part of any ceasefire. I doubt that. If they're live hostages, maybe one, maybe two, but very few. Dead hostages, hopefully a few more. But look, this war could be over tomorrow if Hamas would do two things. Release the hostages and agree that they will not, they cannot govern Gaza. But look, Iran basically, none of their proxies stepped up for them. So I think Hamas is out on a limb now. But frankly, Hamas can survive through a ceasefire as long as they don't give up all of their leverage, which is the hostages. So let's look, Trump and Netanyahu have a very good relationship and they will come to some sort of agreement, I have no doubt. But there is a third party to this. Hamas. And if Hamas simply goes underground and survives, that could be a problem in the months going forward.
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And I did mention in your introduction, your retired army colonel, the situation in Iran, which was a air campaign taking out nuclear sites, much different than on the ground in Gaza. And so Israel has had a difficult time where you have Hamas basically integrated within the rest of the community. It's hard to ferret them out. So there's only so much that the Israeli people will endure in this conflict. I think Israel is having a hard time bringing Hamas and getting them out of Gaza.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they are. But I think the turning point may be the people of Gaza, the Palestinians, are turning against Hamas. I think that's where the United States ought to make their best effort, to turn the people against Hamas. So Hamas is in the hundreds of miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. Let's get the Palestinians to help us with Hamas.
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What role does the humanitarian aid play in that? I know that Israel has wanted to control that because Hamas has been using it and selling it. What role does that play of making – because I think when people get hungry and they don't have the means of getting what they need to survive for their families, they'll face Hamas.
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They should. Believe it or not, Hamas has taken most of the humanitarian aid over the years to build tunnels, to pour concrete, to build fortresses underground. So we need to make sure that any humanitarian aid going in gets to actual citizens on the ground and is not stolen by Hamas to rebuild their infrastructure.
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What does the Middle East look like after this is brought to a conclusion there with Hamas? Because we know now that there is the potential of the expansion of the Abraham Accords. This is not something we were looking at 18 months ago. The Middle East is a whole new situation.
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I believe that if Iran is truly brought to bear to heal, the Middle East would be even drastically different from what we see today. Abraham Accords would grow with numbers of Sunni Muslim nations. Iran would be down. We have Shia Iran governing two less countries. And if we can defeat the Houthis in Yemen, three less countries. I think this could be a totally different Middle East. If Iran agrees to forego their Hamas, Hezbollah, their support for them, This could be an entirely different Middle East from what we're even seeing today, Tony. And this could be a monumental change.
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Where do you see Turkey factoring into the Middle East going forward?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, as you know, I'm the chairman of the Europe Subcommittee on Foreign Affairs, so Turkey is a major issue for us today. Turkey has one of the largest armies in NATO. They participate in NATO operations, but they also keep an eye on Syria. They want to play a major role in the Middle East. I'm not sure which way Turkey is going to go. toward NATO, to be a solid NATO partner, or turn to the Middle East to try to be one of the major Muslim nations in the Middle East. I encourage Turkey to stick with NATO. They're an important ally with a large army. But Syria, the power vacuum in Syria is an issue with Turkey. And if they go and try to be one of the big players in the Middle East, I think it will hurt their participation in NATO. I encourage Turkey to stay with NATO, and let's get Turkey and Israel back on good terms, particularly vis-a-vis Syria, because the Russians still want to play in the Middle East. Now, they've moved some of their bases from Syria over to Libya, but we need to keep Russia out of the Middle East as much as we can.
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And America's way forward is through diplomatic relations, economic development in the Middle East. Would you agree?
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Well, Economic development can be handled by the oil-rich states in the Middle East. I'm not for a lot of American taxpayer dollars going into the Middle East. We need to make sure that the Sunni Muslim nations that are so rich over there with oil and gas money, they lead the reconstruction efforts in the various areas, and they're the ones that can return economic stability to the area.
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Congressman Keith Self, always great to see you. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you, Tony. And folks, I would encourage you to be a lot to pray about, as we talk about in this program a lot. But I would be praying, obviously, for the folks in Texas. And we're going to be talking with Chip Roy. Just got notice he's going to be a little delayed. So we're going to talk to him a little bit later. Coming up next, we're going to be talking with Congresswoman Michelle Bachman. But be praying for the folks in Texas, the families impacted. But also be praying as the president about to start his meeting. with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. We're going to talk about that a little bit more next with former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, so don't go away.
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Thank you, Tony. Thank you for the great job that you and the FRC team are doing. It's fantastic.
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Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Let me start with this. Have you received any response to the first open letter that you wrote?
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We have received response from within the administration. I won't say the name of the individual, but we were told it was a great letter. And we hope that it will make it in front of the president of the United States. That would be the goal. And in front of the decision makers regarding the U.S.-Israeli relationship and the decisions that will be very important today and tomorrow that may be made.
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So let's talk about that, because we're talking about the president and the prime minister discussing peace in Gaza, a permanent peace situation there, talking about expanding the Abraham Accords. And some have suggested in the past, we've seen this over and over from both administrations, Republican and Democrat, that that often includes Israel giving up some land.
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That's right. And that would be in violation of the Bible because, Tony, as you know, and as your viewers know, as they're following with you on the Bible plan, the Bible is very clear on God's peace plan for the nations regarding Israel and for individuals regarding Israel. And it's very simple. It's this. It's we agree that God's Jewish people have the right to live in the land that God gave them forever. That's it. And so we are told to bless both individuals and nations. We are to bless Israel. And God's plan is that the Jewish people live in fully all of the land that he gave them forever. So as we as nations publicly affirm that the Jewish people have the right to live in their land, and then we bless them. We might bless them with what they need to defend themselves, whether it's munitions or whether it's weaponry. But we bless them and we back them. That's what the Bible calls us to do. No more. And so when nations... agree with the temptation to meddle in Israel's affairs and then pressure Israel to divide their land or to remove the Jewish people from the land. The God of the Bible says that there will be swift judgment on nations that do that. And too many American presidents from both political parties have put pressure on Israel. So the crux of our letter, Tony, was to call on President Trump, who's a very unique president and really one of the most pro-Israel presidents America's ever had. We call on him to be the first president to follow the Bible's plan for peace. which is to publicly state that America will stand with Israel and with the Jewish people's right to their land and that we will choose to bless and not curse them. That's it. That's the plan. And so I hope that that's what President Trump will do, because we saw something less than two weeks ago. There were articles written that President Trump may pressure Israel to divide the land when it comes to Judea, Samaria or regard in Gaza. That would not be what the Bible says. agrees with. And I would hope that the Trump administration would make decisions that are in alignment with the Word of God.
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And you're very clear in the letter pointing out all of the unique things that President Trump has done, supporting Israel, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, recognizing the nation's sovereignty over the Golan Heights. And also in the previous administration where the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria, they recognize those as not being illegal under international law. So you clearly recognize the good things the president has done. You're just simply warning him of where other administrations have gone astray. And in particular, this appears to be in the expansion of the Abraham Accords, I think in part because you have countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia, I think, leaning in and wanting to exchange recognition of Israel for the creation of a Palestinian state.
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Well, that's right. The Abraham Accords also were predicated. In other words, a premise was made that Israel, there'll be an ongoing discussion about Israel's boundaries. That's in violation of the Bible. There is no discussion about Israel's boundaries. Israel won Judea, Samaria under international law. Israel won Gaza under international law. This land belongs to Israel. This is not up for grabs. East Jerusalem isn't up for grabs. There is no reason for Israel to have to divide their land or give up their land. One thing that was being proposed, Tony, is that President Trump was saying that four Arab countries would, quote, manage Gaza. That would be a disaster. Two of the countries that he mentioned would be Egypt and the United Arab Emirate. Just yesterday, an article came out that weapons were being smuggled through Egypt into Gaza. Well, that's like the fox running the hen house. If Egypt is allowing or letting slip through weapons to go into Gaza. So we don't want to see Egypt or the United Arab Emirate manage Gaza directly. And two other Arab nations, presumably one of those nations would be Qatar, which is the chief financer of terrorism in the world today. So this is very problematic, what we've been hearing. Also, another suggestion is that Israel would essentially be forced or pressured to recognize that someday down the road, there would be a two-state proposal. In other words, Israel's land would have to be divided. That would be wrong. That would be against the word of God. And so really, again, Tony, the bottom line is the biblical peace plan that God has laid out, and that's that the Jewish people live in their land and that nations bless the Jewish people as they choose to live in their land. President Trump did that recently when he helped Israel and Iran drop the most powerful bombs in the world short of a nuclear weapon. And we helped to bring peace to that region by that action. That was a very wise decision. I commend President Trump for that decision. And so President Trump is at the apex now. in so many ways in this administration with all the blessings that he's brought to America and to Israel. So while America's at the apex of blessing, I wouldn't want to see a decision made that would put the United States in a position of judgment, biblical judgment.
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And we will pray to that end. Michelle, we're out of time. Thanks for joining us as always. Folks, be praying for this meeting that's coming up any moment. All right, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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We'll go back to Washington, which, by the way, if you'd like to sign that letter, we're going to give you one more opportunity to sign that letter to President Trump regarding Israel and encourage him not to divide the land to any form or fashion. Just text the word letter to 67742. That's letter to 67742. And we'll add your name to that. All right, the death toll in Texas continues to rise following the devastating flooding that swept through the Texas Hill Country region over the weekend. At least 94 bodies have been recovered across six counties, with Kerr County accounting for most of the deaths. Yesterday, Texas Governor Greg Abbott declared a day of prayer as search and rescue operations continued. Here now to discuss the latest, Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who represents the area in Texas hit the hardest by the devastating flooding. Chip, thanks for taking a moment to to join us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Tony. Appreciate having me on.
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I know you sent me a text yesterday morning about the situation. It's I mean, it's really shaken the community to its core.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously the whole nation has been caught up in the obvious heartbreaking situation with respect to the little girls at that camp. But in midst all of that tragedy, there's a lot of heroism, a lot of great stories. people who have risked their lives, gave their lives to try to help these kids, help these little girls. You know, I think you've probably heard some of the stories. A woman named Jane Ragsdale, who was active in the Presbyterian Church in Kerrville, who was at one of the camps, camp director, who lost her life, I think, saving, we think, five kids. A guy named Dick Eastland, the guy who owned Camp Mystic, bought it in 1973, was considered a grandfather to so many of these kids. He gave his life trying to save three of the little girls. Unfortunately, all four of them were lost, but they had gone down there that night in the middle of those floods trying to do what they could. And so there's been an outpouring of support from the community. You're right, it has hit everybody at their core. Normally on 4th of July, I'm there. Tony, with my family, I've been going there for about a decade, listening to live Texas country music. It's a venue that brings people from all over the state. These camps, there's 18 of them up the Guadalupe, many of them faith-based. Camp Mystic being maybe one of the more well-known. And the last point I'll make before you go to the next question, I don't know if you saw the video of these girls when they were on the bus getting removed finally from Camp Mystic, singing a worship song, singing hymns. while they were driving out and watching the destruction. These are girls who've just lost siblings, lost loved ones, lost friends, singing hymns and keeping the faith as they left the camps. And that's the real story here.
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The storm, of course, we in Louisiana, we're very familiar with natural disasters, more hurricanes. Our flooding is not like your flooding with the raging waters there that took place. And many people, how did this happen? Well, it happened in the middle of the night, and the river rose over 20 feet within an hour.
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Yeah, I mean, so to put it in perspective, everybody understand, the area 20 miles down from the camps where a lot of the lives were lost, down in Kerrville, it's a little broader, a little wider, okay? That water there rose some 26 feet in a little over an hour, around an hour, because of the raging waters coming down. That occurred, as you note, the wee hours of the morning on July 4th, and it happened very quickly. Farther up, in Hunt near where Camp Mystic is located and the other camps, there's a narrower area and that water rose very quickly. And so there was a story of a young man who unfortunately, he lost two of his daughters and he described he was hanging on trying to figure out how to get to his daughters. And he said the water was going up basically a foot per minute. That's how quickly the water was coming up. It's really hard to describe for people who don't understand the terrain there. It's limestone with a very thin amount of topsoil. And that you're in a drought, water comes in 12, 14 inches, which nobody was really predicting. Now, the National Weather Service predicted flooding. They predicted heavy rains. And everybody needs to be attuned to that. But they weren't saying 12 to 14 inches. And nobody really necessarily could. And so that hit. And then this is what happened at four to six o'clock in the morning on a holiday. There are things we could probably do better going forward. But the finger pointing and the politicizing of it is nonsense. Right. We need to focus on these healing families.
SPEAKER 06 :
So how many I know that there's a lot of people that were from out of town that were along there. So we don't know exactly how many may be missing. But what are the estimates of those that are still unaccounted for?
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Yeah, I think right now we're somewhere around 84, 85 official fatalities in that area in Kerr County. Just got an update a little bit ago. And I think I don't exactly know the adult and child breakdown there. I think it's maybe 60 or so adults and 25 kids, give or take maybe 58 adults. There's 10 still missing children. I believe those are all children that are unidentified, I should say, that I think are affiliated with Camp Mystic. That's not 100%. They're still working through that. It's difficult, right? And the identification gets tough, right? And so one of the hardest conversations I've ever had to have was being a part of a conversation with parents who still had missing children two nights ago and talking about collecting DNA to try to do the hard work of identifying kids. And so this is all gonna be something we're gonna have to work through for a long period of time. But the prayer, Tony, has been extraordinary. The amount of faith, the amount of, support coming in, people across the aisle that have been reaching out to help. It is much far fewer in between the people who are politicizing it and being, you know, I think inappropriate. The vast majority of people I'm talking to are just wanting to help. We had 1,500 people in line trying to get signed up to be volunteers. We've had stuff pouring in from all over the country. There's going to be benefit concerts coming up here in July and August already getting planned. The people of Texas are going to act fast, and they always do that regardless of who we're talking about, and we're deeply appreciative.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Chip, we'll continue to pray. Our church was praying yesterday morning. And we can empathize with the families there in Texas and around that have been impacted. So we'll continue to lift up the people of Texas and the families impacted by this tragedy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you, Tony. That's the most important thing. And it's been noticed. And we know it's having an effect and it's working. Just watching how people are responding and reacting and getting strengthened by all the show of support from all over the country. So deeply appreciate that.
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All right, Congressman Chip Roy. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's also that so many people are parents, too. And the first thing you think is, if my kid was in that water, I mean, I'd be among the bodies because I'd be diving in. And I think that's the reaction. It's one of the few things that unites us. Of course, plenty of people did make it political. And I've refrained online and Twitter from trying to retort back because it just felt a bad spirit on it. But there is a political angle to it, and we can talk about it. how FEMA money was misspent in the last administration and things like that. But I don't think that's what the focus should be now. It's on the unity and coming together.
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I think you can look at those things after the fact. I think that now it's the families that are suffering. And when we, nine years ago, we went through the floods in Louisiana. And we didn't have near the loss of life that we saw here in Texas because it was a different type of flooding. But the families, their futures are completely altered forever. And it changes communities. Our communities still change from the flood with the devastation that took place. But it's just... It is a time, I think as Christians, we need to pray, to empathize, but to be introspective of what really matters in life.
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Yeah, I mean, it's true. It reminds me of Jesus' parable about, where are you building your foundation? You know, obviously, it's a metaphorical parable of the wind and the rain's coming, but when tragedy strikes, whether it's a flood or any other kind of thing, it reveals what's under the surface. And if you have a deeper foundation to cling to, then you might be able to make it through something even as terrible as this. But if you don't, I don't know where you turn. I mean, you're done. If you don't have Jesus and something like that happens to your kids, it's over.
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Even then, it can show up even then.
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It's unbearable.
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Tonight, actually right now, I think President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are meeting to discuss a permanent peace agreement or winding down the war in Gaza. Also, we're expecting a wide range of issues to be discussed, including expansion of the Some are concerned. You heard we had former Congressman Michelle Bachmann on discussing in the past that's always resulted in Israel having to promise to give up land or to somehow trade land for peace. Something different has happened this time where we actually have – family leaders in Judea and Samaria, in Hebron in particular, which is in Judea, saying, hey, we don't want to be a part of the Palestinian Authority. We want to join the Abraham Accords. This is a game changer, I think.
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It is, and I think we're at a really unique time in history right now. You have Trump as this ultimate peacemaker. You also have Israel finally being able to attack and expose some of the really corrupt regimes that have been leading places like Gaza and the Palestinian state. You have Iran, all of these people who are repressing their own nation. And we're starting to peel back the layers and see what's actually going on. And this movement sort of of these five shakes that you talked about in Hebron, very significant in that they're saying, you know, the Palestinian Authority has been awful for a long time. You know, they've taxed us. They don't understand our traditions. They don't actually care what the people think. They've just ruled with an iron fist. And we want out. And we see this opportunity with Trump at the helm to finally make this change. And what they're proposing is truly groundbreaking. I mean, they're saying we will – basically secede from the Palestinian Authority, break off, form their own emirate, so this little tiny pocket would not be holding to the PA, and then join the Abraham Accords.
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Yeah, what's interesting is that's really how the Middle East functioned for Right. Millennia, really. I mean, it was just tribes, families. In fact, last year I met with one of these sheikhs, and they were – I didn't know how they were going to get this off the ground because it was so dangerous for them even to meet with us because of the Palestinian Authority. But it's gotten so – repressive for the people, and the corruption is so bad that they're willing to take these risks. And it is interesting that the family structure, and it is tight, but in the Arab community, the family structure is tighter than these political organizations.
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Right, and I think everyone agrees that at this point, this two-state solution, as everybody's been calling it, is dead, and they're looking for a way to actually get out. They acknowledge this.
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They have signed a letter pledging peace and full recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. is unheard of because none of the other countries would recognize. That's what the Abraham Accords were, recognizing Israel's right to exist. They're saying, hey, we know that a two-state solution is not possible, especially after October the 7th. They're making the argument that we've made that here's a landmass about 24 times the size of Gaza in the heart of Israel. Who would be dumb enough to allow a Palestinian state in the heart of their country?
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it's true. I mean, I love your point about the families being so strong, even when the political breaks down, because that's really, you know, faith, family, freedom. We show that, you know, if families can stick together, we can weather a lot of political things. Also, another point on this is it's really refreshing to see some honesty in an area of the world filled with propaganda and just constant lying about our enemies are evil and we're the best and, you know, constant lying about Israel, And, you know, Iran saying they won the war after being totally decimated is kind of laughable lying. But to see someone in this part of Palestine saying, actually, the Palestinian Authority has been terrible to us. I mean, you think about the things that they're guilty of. They steal foreign aid. They steal most of the foreign aid. You know, we don't really know the percentages because of the way it works there. But all this foreign aid that's been pouring in, they take it, they use it to buy weapons, to fuel terrorism.
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Right. They pay the terrorists. It's pay to slay. They're continuing to indoctrinate the children to hate Jews. And it's had a consequence. It works? Well, it works, but it also depresses the economy. There's no jobs. The sheikhs recognize that there's no place for our people to work. We need Israel. We want this relationship. We've seen the same thing in Ariel in Samaria. where it is the manufacturing that comes in oftentimes by Jewish companies, but they employ the Arabs, and they like it because they have an income and they can provide for their family. So I think part of it, it's gotten so bad that the people, like what we're hoping will happen in Iran, will rise up against this imposed regime, in this case the Palestinian Authority, that's been put upon the people by the Oslo Accords.
SPEAKER 05 :
But I'm also interested now, you've talked a lot on the show about Judea and Samaria. What is that? I mean, the backdrop of this is also so interesting, because here we are talking about, you know, Michele Bachmann saying, don't cede this land. And here are these guys from this land saying, we want to join the Abraham Accords.
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Well, it's interesting, Hebron is where the cave of Machpelah is actually at that Abraham bought to bury Sarah. So it's actually one of the areas in Scripture, one of four areas in Scripture that we actually have a recorded deed of the land being purchased there in Hebron. And so when I was actually there last time I was in Hebron, a few months ago and met with the mayor there. And there was some discussion about the, it's bifurcated where you have a small Jewish community there, but it's basically the city is run by the Palestinians. But these families could quickly and I think more effectively govern. Now, It's going to be a little complicated in how does Israel absorb them? What kind of status do they have as citizens?
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How do you manage all these little towns?
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But I wonder, you know, I was thinking about this as I was reading through it because this is all relatively new. If it couldn't be treated as we treat like Indian reservations here in the United States where they have sovereign jurisdiction in their areas, but they're not another country.
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Right. That'd be interesting.
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Yeah, we have like Puerto Rico, for instance. Actually, I think the effect – when you think about the effect it would have on the rest of Palestine, to me it's reminiscent of something like Hong Kong where you have a whole country that has one way of thinking and then you have a pocket that adopts another way. And then the small minority pocket ends up sort of disproving the larger group.
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I think what the sheikhs would want – is the Israeli government to provide basic services, protection. They don't want an army. They would probably prefer the Israeli police force. They don't have infrastructure a lot of times. Actually, in Hebron, in some of these areas, they're having to bring water in from the outside because they're just – Anyway, it's going to be very interesting to see how that plays out. I think we're at a very unique period in time. It's something that we need to be prayerful about as the expansion of the Abraham Accords, but as Michelle was talking about earlier, can't be a trade land for peace. That's proven to be ineffective.
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And I think you have a column about that on the Washington Stand right now.
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I do, actually. I wrote that.
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Tony Perkins, yeah. That's right.
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You can go to the Washington Stand and see that and see what I'm thinking about that if you haven't heard enough from me. All right, we've got a few minutes left. I want to talk a little bit more on domestic news. A day after the White House celebrated Independence Day and the signing of the reconciliation bill, Elon Musk had some news of his own to share that he is launching the America Party.
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I will say Elon is it's sort of cute bless his heart he's so new to politics I don't think he knows what to do with all of his frustration now I've watched you through years be frustrated with the Republican Party I mean it could be I mean even as recently as last year now Right. So this is nothing new to those of us that have been in politics. And I think he just doesn't know how to process it. So he's like, let's start a third party. Well, I've heard you over the years. You've been disgusted. You know, we've bantered about what do we do? But it's not a viable solution. And in his case, who is going to join this party? The liberals don't like him. He's a traitor to the liberals. The MAGA crowd dislikes him. There might be a tiny sliver of Republicans that would go for it. But even then, Elon Musk, like SpaceX?
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I'm just not sure where he finds a constituency.
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Right.
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Because he's – if I put him in any category, he'd be libertarian. There's already a libertarian party. Right. Well, but they're kind of – Yeah, he doesn't fit the Libertarian Party. He really has a slice of the mega crowd, but the mega crowd's not leaving. No. And they're going to stick with him. The establishment, more the establishment. is not happy in the Republican Party, but they're not going to go there either. So he has no constituency.
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And you need a significant ground game to get a party like that. It takes more than X. It's a lot of paper. If he gets frustrated, who's going to be running this party? If he's like, well, I'm going to go back to Tesla and I'm going to go launch my rocket, who's going to be in charge?
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I know that in the process, even when he was running Doge and when he first came in, I did not have these direct conversations, but those that did have those conversations with us shared with me. He just had no understanding of how government functioned, which was obvious by some of the statements that he made. and and government was designed by our founders to be slow and to be hard to change because that's for our own protection now it's gotten so bad because over years of neglect it has gotten way way out of whack but we we have to do the hard work of bringing it back and you know i think we have to work within the structure yes i i remain frustrated with the republican party But that's why we're here. We agitate. And just think if we weren't agitating, if we weren't pushing and prodding and telling them to do more, what it would really be like.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look at what the House Freedom Caucus has done. There are elements of the Republican Party that have done a lot to move the needle.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the Freedom Caucus began in our conference room. Right. So, I mean, that's how you move the process over time. Accountability, encouragement. It takes everybody kind of working together with a – Common vision of a nation that, as we see here, one nation under God, indivisible with justice and liberty for all. All right. We're out of time. That flew by. Yes, it did. Suzanne Casey, thanks for joining me. Thanks, Tony. Folks, thank you for joining us as well. And by the way, you can still sign that letter if you do so quickly. Text the word LETTER to 67742. That's LETTER to 67742. And check out the Washington Stand. You can go to thewashingtonstand.com or just get the Stand Firm app, and it'll be right there on your news feed. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, you have done everything you could do, and you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand. By all means, keep standing.
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Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Founder of American Furniture Warehouse Jake Jabs is the quintessential American success story. Jabs shares his experiences from co-owning a successful music store in Montana to mega success with American Furniture Warehouse. Stan Everitt founded The Legacy Project which has helped several thousand people walk through the principles of our Founding Documents. Everitt discusses why these documents are relevant today. Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins with The 2nd Syndicate explain the importance of the 2nd Amendment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
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An early childhood taxing district? What on earth is that?
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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed. And welcome to The Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for listening. You're each treasured and valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. And thank you. I work with an amazing team. That's producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Nicole, Zach, Echo, Charlie and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. I'm just really blessed to work with great people. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And for this July 4th Independence Week, we are prerecording our shows with very special guests. And I am truly honored to have in studio with me a great American, and that is Jake Jabs. Jake, welcome to the show. Oh, it's nice to be here. Thank you. I feel like I know you. I've watched you on television all these years. And so I thought this was so appropriate to broadcast your story on the 4th of July because you are the great American story. And running the company still every day, that is remarkable. Thank you. But tell us, let's go to the beginning. You grew up in Montana. Tell us about your family.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, one reason I really believe in America and the free enterprise system is my dad was born and raised in Poland. When the First World War came along, the Russians came into that part of Poland and drafted him in the Russian Army. That was 1916. In 1917, as you know, if you're a history buff, that's when Lenin and the Communists took over Russia. And my dad was in the Russian Army when Lenin and the Communists took over Russia. And so the horror stories he told, you know, about people starved to death, they killed the rich people, and And things like that, you know. And the bottom line is that they wouldn't let him out because it was actually German heritage. They were Germans living in Poland on my dad's side. And by the way, Germans living in Ukraine on my mother's side, by the way. So anyway, so the message there is that communism just doesn't work because you can't keep what you earn. There's no incentive. There's no incentive to be productive, to be innovative, right? uh to be an entrepreneur there's no incentive to do that you know and so my dad was eyewitness to to he said approximately 40 million people starved to death under lennon so lennon could see that communism wasn't working so he gave everybody an acre of land and that stopped the starvation and the lesson learned there if you have an acre of land and it's yours you're probably going to Take care of it. Take care of it, you know, raise it. So that basically stopped starvation. But he developed what he called the New Economic Policy. And if you're interested in that, you know, Google up the New Economic Policy. It really was a free market policy. He was allowing foreign trade. He was allowing farmers to sell some of their crop. He was allowing foreign investment. So it was, he was really, Lenin, my dad said, Lenin really no longer believed in communism. And I think he proved that out. What happened, Lenin died at age 52. which we probably feel is pretty young, right? Yeah. But what history books will tell you, he died, he didn't take care of his health, he had a couple bullet wounds from assassination attempts, he died of poor health. And Stalin was his first guy in charge, and he was having some problems with Stalin, but because he died young, Stalin would end up taking over. And Stalin was a dying world communist, and he took back all of the free enterprise things Lenin had adapted, including the acre of land. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, and about 20 million people starved there. On my mother's side of the family, she's from Ukraine, Russia. I guess that's the way you put it, Ukraine, Russia. It was Russia and then it was Ukraine, you know. But anyway, it was about all of my family on my mother's side starved to death under Stalin. We used to send them care packages, and they said, don't send us care packages anymore. We're not getting them. And basically what it was, they were farmers, and a soldier would come in and take their seed grain. They couldn't plant crops, and they'd come in and take their animals and kill their animals. and they all starved to death under Stalin. So the message there is, you know, and Stalin was probably, my dad said that Stalin was probably the most ruthless killer in the history of the world. And I think history proves that out. There's a great video, the History Channel did a great video called The Man of Steel, and it's about Stalin. And if you ever get a chance to see that, you should see that. where he just killed millions of people. He killed his entire Politburo one time. He heard rumors that they were going to try to replace him, so he had them all killed. He was just a ruthless, ruthless killer. And, of course, he stayed in power for many years and picked the war. The war, I think, kind of saved him. World War II? World War II, yeah. So anyway, so from that background, my parents, I'm a first-generation American. Both my parents are immigrants. But with that background, knowing about communism and how it did function, because there's really no incentive to, if you can't keep what you earn, why would you work? Why would you work? Exactly. Exactly.
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So how did your father get out of the Russian army? How did they get to America?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. On my dad's side, we all thought he went AWOL. Okay. Kids did. Because he seemed to always be looking over his shoulder. Oh, my gosh. He seemed to be looking over his shoulder. But he actually went to South America, fled to South America, had to work two years for a boat ride, spent two years in Sao Paulo, Brazil, learned to speak Portuguese. And he was a musician. He was an Atlanta Venus Street musician in Sao Paulo, Brazil. And he had an aunt in Detroit, and she sponsored him, so he finally came to America. because his aunt had sponsored him to come here. On my mother's side, they were Germans living in Russia, Ukraine. Russia slash Ukraine, I guess, yeah. So my mother's family came over. What the deal is, part of it, you know, Catherine the Great was the czar of Russia. She had the Germans come into Russia to teach them to farm and Because basically at that time, Russia was pretty much nomads and Cossacks and stuff. So there was a lot of Germans in Russia. In fact, Hardin, Montana, where I grew up, everybody there are Germans from Russia. So a lot of them tried to escape out of there, and they did. And that's what happened on my mother's side. They escaped when it was part of Russia. They got out of there before that. So, anyway, the lesson learned there is that if you don't have a free market, free enterprise, have an incentive to be inventive, create inventive, be an entrepreneur, which I believe I am. I'm an entrepreneur. Absolutely. You know, that there's no incentive to do that. And that's why it really fails.
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So your parents get to, well, how did they meet?
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Well, what happened is there was a lot of Germans from Russia. Actually, there's quite a few of them here in Colorado, by the way, up around Loveland, Long Island, the farmers, the Germans from Russia. But on my mother's side, they came through here in Colorado, Atlanta, Montana. And so many of the people, immigrants, went back to areas that were kind of the same climate that they came from. And Montana was pretty much the same as they were used to. And there's a lot of Germans in there for Billings and Hart in that area where I grew up. There's a lot of Germans from Russia. My dad, but my aunt sponsored him to come here. And so he, they had, families knew each other a little bit. And my mother was 20 years old. And at that time, that was time that they got married. Old maid. Yeah. So anyway, he says, we have as eligible. My dad was 28 years old at that time. My dad didn't come to America until he was 28 years old. By the way, he always spoke broken English, by the way.
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Did he? Okay.
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Because he spoke five languages, German, Polish, Russian, learned to speak Portuguese in Brazil, and then learned to speak American. But anyway, so they knew each other. So my dad went to Montana to meet this 20-year-old maid, and they fell in love and got married. And so he left. He was living in Detroit at that time with his aunt, and he immigrated to Montana, and they got married, and he started farming in Montana.
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Okay. And so a lot of children in the family, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, nine kids, yes.
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Nine children. Where did you fall? Out in the middle. In the middle, okay. And so what was it like? I'm from western Kansas, and my paternal side Germans, farmers, still farms, and my grandmother grew up in a two-room sod house. What did you grow up in?
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Okay. Pretty much the same. Yeah. As a family grew, we were sharecroppers of the Crow Indian Reservation. That's one way you could get started farming, is being a sharecropper. That's where you give a share of your crop to the Indians, actually, because it was a Crow Indians reservation. And so my dad decided that he was going to... I think one thing that we had in common that really helped us through the tough times was music. My dad was a musician. He saw we had instruments. He made a deal with the band director, Lodgegrass Band, that he'd give us instruments and I'd give him a quarter of beef. So he traded, huh? Yeah, so, but it was a small house, small house. And as the family grew, Dad moved up a bunk house next to it and built a walkway between the house and the frame house. And I remember us boys, us five boys slept in this log cabin. And I can remember getting up on those cold Montana winter mornings. There was no heat at all. No heat in the sleeping quarters. I can remember that cold. We'd make a beelive to the mother to have the stove going. Sure. Dress around the stove. So it was a small frame house with a bunk house where the boys lived. And, you know, there was no running water. There was no electricity. Yeah. And, you know, that's the way it was. We didn't know we were poor. Nobody told us we were poor. Because everybody was in the same boat, too. Everybody in the same boat, yeah. And so, in a way, we grew up, I think, well, we grew up poor. But I think what we had maybe an advantage over some of the other people was our music. Dad always, I was playing in the Lodgegrass High School Band when I was in the second grade. No. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I always played trumpet. I played, by the way, I played all the way through college. grade school, high school, college. I played with the Montana State College marching team, by the way. These are with wind instruments. Anything with a trumpet, with a mouthpiece, I could play. I played trumpet, cornet, baritone, sousaphone, French horn. So I played them all. So it was a family. He always saw we had a band. We played for country dances. My dad played violin. My oldest sister was a piano player. And by the way, she was a good one-playing player. She played professional piano all her life, my sister, you know. And then my older brother played guitar. My first instrument was a tenor banjo. And so we went to Billings, which was a bigger city, to market some animals. And we went by this music store, and there was a steel guitar on amplifier on the window. This was back... And when steel guitar country music was just sort of coming on, I said, Dad, buy me that steel guitar and amp. And it was $145. Oh, my gosh. Our family at that time, you know, it was a lot of money. Dad says, I'll tell you what. He says, you go in there and learn to play a couple songs and I'll buy it for you. So I broke off from the family and went in there and I learned to play a couple songs. So dad bought me the steel guitar. So now the tenor banjo went in the closet and I played steel guitar. I played steel guitar all the way through high school, college. And then when my older brother graduated, I ended up switching to Spanish guitar. Steel guitar is fine, but it's almost, you have to be playing with a band. Sure. Yeah, you know, so the Spanish guitar, or regular guitar, whatever you want to call it, was the instrument that was, you could play all types of music. You could accompany yourself. You could play. It was more entertaining, so I started playing. I still do, by the way. I still play. Do you? Oh, yeah. I still play. I get up and play with musicians and do that all the time.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And thank you to all of you who support us. I greatly appreciate it. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And for this week, Independence Week, the Fourth of July week, we are pre-recording all of our shows. And for this 4th of July, Independence Day, I'm interviewing Jake Jabs, and he is truly the American story. Jake Jabs, so we've talked about your early life. You're a musician. You've gone to college in Montana.
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What happens after that with Jake Jabs? Well, I'll tell you a little bit about my military career real quick. The Korean War was on. Dad said, take ROTC. And by the way, there's three of us brothers did that, and we all took ROTC, which meant you went in the military as an officer instead of a buck private. Not bad, huh? So anyway, so my first assignment, I was stationed at a radar site in Point Arena, California. I was adjutant personnel officer at this radar site. And you had to have a secret clearance to be at the radar site. And I filled out an application for top secret clearance. And the tricks come in and said, we need an officer to go to European Theater of War with a top secret clearance. I raised my hand. I said, that's me. Korean War is over here. And I'll go that way. I will now. It landed up that I was stationed in French Morocco. We had a security office there. And I ran the security office at the North Shore Air Base in French Morocco. And I was the top sheet clearance. It landed up there was a civil war when I was going. The Arabs were booting the French out. This was kind of the end of the colonial days. You know, at that time, France owned Libya. Algeria, and Iraq, and that whole part of the world. It was kind of when they were leaving. It really wasn't a civil war like we think they're sitting there fighting each other, but their friends were kind of leaving. But what happened because of that, Atlanta happened to deliver top-secret mail to American Embassy, to all the other military, and they were like the Navy, Sixth Fleet Navy was headquartered in Port Leone. They had their top-secret mail to them. And land up, I got flying pay. I was flying like 40 hours a week, delivering top secret mail all over Africa. Great experience for a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Air Force. Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah. And so you were in the Air Force. Now, were you a pilot?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. No. Okay. I got flying pay, but I wasn't a pilot because I was flying so much. Okay.
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I bet that was a really amazing experience.
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It was, yeah. I really got to have a kind of a knowledge of what's going on in the Middle East, you know, with the problem. We had problems back then a lot with the locals, so to speak. So I kind of have an experience with what's going on now.
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Well, yeah, it's been a hotbed for a long, long time.
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Yeah, it's kind of brewing.
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So the Korean War was on. You're over in French Morocco. And so how many were you in for, four years, or how long were you in?
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No, it was two years active, six years reserve.
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Okay. And then what happens after that, Jake?
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Well, then I went back to – when I got out of the service, I went back to the farm. And two of my brothers – there was four of us in the military at the same time, four brothers during the Korean War. Two of them got out before me. And the farm was always kind of a small farm. My parents were always kind of scared to expand the farm. They were always afraid of a recession that – I said, Dad, buy that 40 acres over there. Oh, no, there's going to be a recession. Because they'd been through that 30s recession, and they were spooky about recessions. So there wasn't room for me on the farm. So I took off, and I hooked up with the Grand Ole Opry Group and toured Canada with them. And after the tour, I landed up in Nashville, Tennessee, playing my guitar for Ray Price and Webb Pierce at the Hinton Post Bar right across from the Ryman Auditorium. Oh, my gosh. And it was kind of cool. At that time, Roy Price had the number one song on the country charts and Webb Pierce had the number two song. So after I got done playing my guitar for him, Roy Price says, come and rehearse with us and go on tour. I made a decision that night I'm not going to be a roadie musician. And what I'm talking about there is a lifestyle. You know, if I could sing like Ray Price... That's a different thing. I'd probably still be playing music. But I couldn't sing like Ray Price. And I didn't like the lifestyle. There was a lot of booze, drugs, and chasing. And, you know, it's just... And I felt like there was a better lifestyle. So I got in my car that night and headed back to Bozeman, Montana. I made money going to college. I made money. I was teaching guitar, playing music. I had a guitar in a music store and actually made money going to college. So I wanted to try and have a guitar studio. It's a small studio starting a music business in Bozeman. And see if I could make a living that way instead. So I did. I went back and had a little guitar studio and started teaching guitar. I actually made a deal with the band director at Montana State University that they'd come and take guitar lessons from me because I had a degree in education. I had a minor in music. that they could get a credit for a one-to-one music at Montana State. So they were feeding me students. And that was pretty cool. I was doing well. They were feeding me. I was teaching like 175 kids a week. Two dollars a lesson, you know? That's pretty good stuff. And there was a music store for sale right downtown Bolden, right in the middle of town. And it was a partnership. And one of the partners was trying to bail out. And I landed up buying his half interest in this music store for $1,500. And so from that $1,500 investment in a music store, in that multi-million dollar business I have today. Isn't that something? There's a few steps along the way.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, a few things happen. So you buy the music store, but then it doesn't just remain a music store, and then did you buy the other partner out, or what happened?
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Yeah, I wanted to get along with my partner, and by the way, the lesson I kind of learned, a lot of times partnerships don't work. Our problem was, I'm a country-western musician is what I am you know and just music period and he didn't like country he said there's no music in a guitar he said oh really that was his and Elvis Presley was hot at that time you know and Elvis Presley came out with a record that sold a million copies a day he announced the record you know And he didn't want to sell Elvis. Kids would come and say, I want an Elvis Presley record. He says, we don't sell Elvis Presley records. Okay.
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So he didn't want to sell what people wanted. That's right. Okay.
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That's a problem, right? That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he didn't want to keep up with what's going on. And he didn't. So anyway. Another lesson learned here, by the way, is I made a deal with my partner that I'd buy his half-interest out for $3,000 when I bought into the store. So it was the end of the year, and we had an agreement for $3,000. Well, trouble with businesses, they take money. You've got to have inventory, you've got to have receivables, and then you land up with no money. So I went over to the bank to borrow the $3,000. And he says, do you have a financial statement? I said, a what? I didn't know what a financial statement was. And one reason that I support colleges and, you know, there's a couple of colleges that have their business school named after me. And I do that because I think if you're in business, you should have business, take business course, learn business. At least know what a financial statement is. So we're trying to fill out this financial statement on the banker. What's your assets? What's your liabilities? How much do you turn your inventory? And I could tell he's not going to lend me this $3,000. You're not going to get it. And by the way, I said, I have 30 head of cattle on a ranch at home. And the story there was when we graduated from high school, Dad gave each of us boys a heifer calf. And that was our start in life was this heifer calf. Heifer calves have calves and so forth. And bankers in Montana understand that. So he lent me this $3,000 and took my 30 head of cattle for collateral. But the lesson learned there is, you know, bankers want collateral. Sure. And if you don't have collateral, they're probably not going to lend you the money. So he lent me the $3,000. So I went back to my partner and I said, by the way, here's your $3,000. And our agreement was up. It was the end of the year. And he says, I decided I'm not going to sell. Because the store was starting to boom. We were doing well. The store was doing really well. And his attorney had drawn up our agreements. I went back to the attorney, and he said, yeah, well, you know, these agreements are only good if the people that draw them, you know. He was taking the side of the partner. It was... He was an attorney for him. So he didn't help me. So I went back, and I said, here's your $3,000. Now get out. And I took him in the back room, and he knew that I was serious. We weren't getting along at all. So he took the $3,000 and left. So at first it was just, I started selling TVs. TVs came into Montana. I don't know if you're familiar with Bozeman, but Bozeman's surrounded by mountains. And so there was no direct TV. The only way you could get TV was by cable. And I think one of the first entrepreneur things I did, they wanted $135 for a TV hookup, which was a lot of money back then. So I went to the cable company and said, if I buy 100 cables, will you give me a deal? Yeah, we'll sell them to you for 100 bucks. So I went to my Motorola supplier and I said, I got this deal on these cables. Now give me a deal on TVs. I want to run an ad online. where if you buy a Motorola TV, you get a free cable installation. So they agreed to give me a discount, so I ran an ad, buy a Motorola TV, get it free. That's the first time where I had people lined up at the door. Wow. You know, get a free cable. It's a $135 free cable installation with a TV, you know. Yeah. So kind of a lesson learned there. If you have a value to the customer, you know, something special, people really come, so... I became the big TV dealer in Galvin County. We sold thousands. It's crazy how many TVs we sold. But from that experience, a furniture salesman came along, and he needed a dealer. And so I said, well, I think that's what entrepreneurs do. You know, you take risks, and you look for opportunities. So I bought a carload of furniture. Now, I didn't know furniture from a hole in the ground. But anyway, I bought the carload of furniture, and I put it up. The top floor of my store was empty. It was an old building, you know, the pop store. So I put this carload of furniture upstairs, and I sold it cheap. And I found out not everybody needed a guitar, but everybody needed furniture. Okay. So we started selling furniture. And from there on, I decided to sell furniture.
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Okay. Well, I'm talking with Jake Jabs. He is the founder of American Furniture Warehouse. And, again, a great American story. And one of the nonprofits that I dearly love and support is the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation. And the U.S. MC Memorial is the official one. It's located right here in Colorado out at 6th and Colfax. And the president is Paula Sarles. She is a Gold Star wife, a Marine officer. And she and her team are working diligently to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And now more than ever, it's so important that we honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for us. And so on this Fourth of July, why don't you go over and make a contribution there at the USMC Memorial Foundation. That website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We'll be right back. Call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, on the beautiful Riverwalk. And at the Center for American Values, they do a couple of things. One, they honor our Medal of Honor recipients with their beautiful portraits of valor, but also they're putting together educational programs for kids K-12, online educators, to continue to instill these values, these American values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So you can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That is America's Value Center. Center.org. There we go. And in studio with me is Jake Jabs. He is the founder of American Furniture Warehouse. It is truly the American story. He is first generation. His parents immigrated from Poland and Ukraine, Russia at the time. And he grew up in Montana. And just an amazing story. So let's get to, you've now got this music store that's now sold all these TVs, furniture store in Bozeman, Montana. What happens after that, Jake Jabs?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I went to open a store in Billings. The trouble with the music business, particularly at that time, you had to have franchise, and they protected your franchise. And that's a learner sometimes, you know, for particularly young people who are looking at franchises. Remember, they'll give you a certain territory, but if you want to open it in another territory, you can't do it because it's somebody else. And that's what troubles the music business. They wouldn't let me take Fender guitars to Billings or Gibson guitars, for example. And I lost interest in the music business. And the lesson learned there is I think you have to have passion for what you do. If you don't have a passion, you're not going to work the nights, the weekends, or the hours, you know, if you don't have the fun doing it. So I lost my passion for the furniture business, and I had three stores.
SPEAKER 19 :
For the furniture or the music business?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. The music business was still the biggest part of it. Okay, okay. I was doing a million dollars a year out of a music store. When I first started at a music store and bought the interest in it, there was five music stores. Five years later, I was the only one left. Wow. The reason for it was I had the best store. I had the best music store. I had teachers. I was teaching guitar. I had a piano teacher. I had an organ teacher. And I just, you know, I'm a musician, and I had the best music store. So the lesson learned there, if you have the best store, best business, you're going to be successful. So I decided, well, I lost interest in music business, so I sold my three stores, and I retired. How old? 30 years old. But I didn't have to retire. And there was a furniture factory for sale in Bridger, Montana. And I bought this factory. So then I started manufacturing furniture. And that was interesting. So what happened, I wound up doing a lot of the sales myself. And I was selling here in Denver. I was selling Mangurians who had built that big building down on Furniture Row. Hmm. And then Mengerian's is opening these big warehouse showrooms. And they went out of business. And this was 74, 75 now. And there was a big recession in 74, 75. Down on Furniture Row, every furniture store went out of business, including the old American Furniture Company. which they had eight stores. They went out of business. So I said, maybe there is an opportunity for this farm kid from Montana to open up a furniture store in a big market like Denver. And every building there was available. And the Old American was available, too. So I bought the Old American Furniture Company And the reason I did, I thought it was the best building for what I wanted to do, 180,000 square feet. And I renamed it American Furniture Warehouse because at that time, Levitt's Warehouse and the big warehouse thing was very popular, so I renamed it American Furniture Warehouse. So that was 1975. So they had assets on the book they were trying to sell. This was typewriters and adding machines. Mm-hmm. Stuff like that, you know. And so, anyway, it was $180,000. Excuse me. Excuse me. It was a million and a half dollars worth of assets. It was trucks, warehouse racks, forklifts, a million and a half dollars worth of assets. And they were just trying to turn the assets into money. And other lessons learned, a lot of times there's opportunity in recessions where you can buy things. assets at pennies on the dollar. So I gave 80,000 cash for a million and a half dollars worth of assets. Wow. I figured I made a million dollars that day. Yes. Because they had room for those adding machines and those assets, plus the forklifts and everything. So I reopened it as American Furniture Warehouse. Now, that was 1975. Okay. And so from that, then, it just grew. I think I probably had the best operation. You know, I was buying better. I was willing to sell it cheap. Yeah, I think a lot of mistakes that a business has made, too, they try to get rich, you know. I never intended to get rich. I just wanted my business to be successful. I wanted my music store to be successful, and I wanted my furniture store to be successful. And if you have that motivation to be successful instead of trying to get rich, And I'll tell you another story about that a little later, too. So, you know, I land up, I bought out Vogue Furniture. They had some stores in Colorado Boulevard. And some of these stores that I bought out were ties in when I had my, I still had my factory. The factory was running when I still had American Furniture for years. And so if a dealer was in trouble, they'd call me, and I'd either buy them out or have a sale for them, that type of thing. So I grew my business. We doubled the volume in my furniture store just almost every year. My first year was $3 million, then it was $6 million, then it was $12 million, and then it was $24 million. So, yeah. I did that at my music store, too, by the way. I doubled my volume every year. That's amazing growth.
SPEAKER 19 :
Just amazing growth.
SPEAKER 09 :
Today we're doing over a billion dollars in sales today. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 19 :
From a little music store in Montana.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so it's very successful. So I bought out different stores along the road. It's kind of a long story. Idaho and Montana and Wyoming were where I had stores. Yeah. Landed up, I decided that if I wanted to do volume, I had to be in the bigger markets. So that's why I chose Colorado. That's why we open stores in Arizona and open stores in Houston, Texas. We need a million people. We have to do volume. If you do a lot of volume, you can sell stuff cheaper. But another lesson learned here, in fact, is on my 33 reasons for success, which I have here. Number seven says privately held company, we don't need a big profit. Number eight is because we own all of our own buildings, trucks, inventory, and we can solve for less. What happened is, like when I started opening stores, my accountant said, Jake, put the buildings in your name and have American Furniture pay you. rent to make you rich. I said, I don't want to get rich. And I was serious about that, by the way. And part of that comes from my dad, where he was in Russia, where he saw the rich people got killed. He used to tell us stories about that. And when you really study rich people, a lot of times they're not happy. You know, they land up being drugs and pardoning and having... personal problems with booze and drugs and that type of thing. And I'm serious about that. I don't think money and happiness are synonymous. I really don't. And so I told my accountant, no, I don't want to get rich. I want my business to be successful. So I put the buildings in place. the company names. So today we have 17 stores, and there's no rent payments. Just think about that, no rent payments. Just a side note there, about eight years ago, an investment company wanted to buy us out. And they wanted to buy Art Van. At that time, Art Van was the fifth biggest retailer in America at 200 stores doing $2 billion a year. And he says, this investment was by you and Art Van. This is going to be a big deal, you know, Art Van and you buy out. And I turned them down, but Art Band sold out to him. So the first thing the investment company did, they took his 200 stores and they put them in a separate company. So now he's paying rent, his 200 stores. He's paying rent on his 200 stores. Three years later, he's gone out of business, bankrupt. At that time, he was very successful. And I met Art Band. He visited my store, I visited his store. We used to have a buying group. We used to do things together, and I liked Art. He had family in the business, but he went bankrupt. So the lesson learned there is, you know, if you own your own buildings, same with trucks. A lot of times investment companies still call us and say, hey, how about taking—I have a whole fleet of trucks, you know. Why don't you put your trucks in this separate company and— and American to pay, you know, so they make the trucking company successful. No, I mean, I want the trucking just to be part of the business. So the same way as the inventories. I pay cash for my buildings, pay cash for my trucks, pay cash for my inventory, and so I have no debt. I don't have to worry about it. And by the way, there is a recession right now in the furniture business. The furniture business has been down for quite a while. You know, this high interest rate has hurt the furniture business. So there is a recession. Nationally, the furniture day just came out that the furniture business last year was down 11% nationally. Wow. And so a lot of furniture stores are hurting. And not just furniture stores. I think a lot of car dealers and anything that takes to borrow money and have an interest rate, you know, hurts business. They should be lowering interest rates and not raising them. But the lesson learned there, if you put your money back in your business, and that's what I've always done from a little music store to American Furniture, still do today. I put the money back in. And at my age, I'm still working because I like what I'm doing.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's remarkable. It's truly remarkable. So, Jake Jabs, we're going to go to break here in just a moment. And as you mentioned, you have two different business schools. One, Montana State, right? And the other is?
SPEAKER 09 :
Denver, CU Denver. CU Denver.
SPEAKER 19 :
And from what I can tell in reading all the information about you is you have a real... passion for young people as well. And, you know, want them to be successful. So I'd love to go through this. How many? There's 39 keys to business and entrepreneurship success. So let's talk about that when we come back. And I'm talking with Jake Jabs and another great sponsor of the show. And I got to know them when I was on city council. And it's really a story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. And then I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties that want to try to control things. And Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. A great place to get together to watch sporting events, meet friends. And the story about how I got to know them is on my website, KimMonson.com. Another great sponsor of the show is Lauren Levy. And we'll be right back.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And happy Independence Day to all of you. We have prerecorded this show, and it is... Just a great inspirational show. I'm talking with Jake Jabs. He is the founder of American Furniture Warehouse and amazing awards over all these years. In 2023, Newsweek said you were awarded in the top 30 most trustworthy companies in America in 2023. You were awarded that again in 2024. You were awarded in 2024 the Best Customer Service by Forbes Award. And this is out of all retailers, right? Yes. This is remarkable. Congratulations. Thank you. There must be, what, millions of retailers? Yeah. Yes, definitely. And how many employees do you have, Jake? 3,300. You know, Jake, and you do so much regarding so many nonprofits and supporting education, just so many great things. But I really think that one of the most compassionate things that a person can do is to give someone a job. It's something that they can get up and go to every morning and take care of themselves, their families. And so 3,300 employees is a pretty remarkable thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
And what I've developed is a lot of incentive programs. Like we pay our drivers a commission for what they deliver. We actually have a waiting list of people that want to deliver furniture for us. Could you imagine that? I don't think nobody can say that. Because we pay them a commission for what they deliver, and they make good money. They work hard, but I have a lot of incentives throughout my company. And if you give people an incentive, their productivity goes through the roof. Because they're really working for themselves. The harder they work, the more money they make. And I consider name them all, but it's too many to name. But if you pay somebody directly for what they do, the productivity more than doubles.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's amazing. And so it's good for them, good for the business. It's good for the customer.
SPEAKER 09 :
They stay with you forever. I've got boys that have been with me for 40 years. So that's a little turnover, which makes you more successful, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. It seems like you're operating on all cylinders very well. Why are you still working?
SPEAKER 09 :
I have four reasons that I like to give. Number one is you have to have a passion for what you do. My passion is, as you said, I give back to a lot of charities. I have a lot of charities that actually depend on us. So there's a real passion on giving back to charities. We support things like the State Fair in Pueblo, the Peach Festival is coming up. We're the big supporter of the Peach Festival. Oh, I love it. And so forth and so on. So you have a passion. But the other thing, my passion is to have the best prices. That's just always been my passion. I just want to have best prices. Imagine that. So I have a passion. Number two is exercise. You have to exercise. I walk three miles a day. And so, of course, it's easy for me to do because I walk in the lines of stores. But exercise, I think you have to exercise. And number three, you have to enjoy what you're doing. If you enjoy what you're doing, you may never work a day in your life. By the way, I didn't make that up. I mean, that goes without saying. If you enjoy what you're doing, it may never work a day in your life. And number four, you need to exercise your brain. What I've seen so often is people that get older, they quit exercising their brain. And that's one of the first things that go. But you have to exercise your brain. And I do that all the time, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
We're running a billion-dollar company.
SPEAKER 09 :
So if you do those four things, you're still working. And I saw my, you know, my parents retired early. The European, they came from Europe, retired at, then it was 60 years old. So my dad retired off the ranch. My granddad retired at 60 years old, died at 64. I saw my dad retire at 60 years old. He was getting out of shape, started drinking. As kids got older, I said, Dad, what the heck are you doing? And he saw it going downhill, and so we kind of forced him to go get a job. He came to pray for me to start building houses, and he got his house back. But the point I'm making, if you just lay around, you lose your health, you lose your brain. And you pass away and you don't enjoy life. So that's my four reasons for why I keep working.
SPEAKER 19 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, we've got, guys, about seven minutes left. And this piece, 39 Keys to Business and Entrepreneurship Success, is amazing. And so take us through some of the top ones on this, Jake Jabs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Number one, secret to free enterprise is find a demand. There's got to be demand. There's a demand for a good furniture store in every market. But whatever it is, you know, Bill Gates with Microsoft, you know, Mark Zickenberg with Facebook, you know, things like that. Find a demand. But number two is be honest. Because today, everybody's got a phone on them. They can blog you. They can yawk you. They can run you down. Like there's another furniture store open here in Denver, all once in their name, and they're just bad operators, and they're just being slammed by being dishonest. Today you need to be honest, and it makes life more fun. It does, yeah. Yeah, so being honest is so important. And become a social media savvy. Keep your credit good. Keep your credit good. Good credit opens doors, and that's what has happened to me, opened doors. Number 10, have a passion for what you do. If you have a passion, it's not work anymore. I mean, you enjoy it. I enjoy going to work every day. Number 14, entrepreneurs don't do it for the money. I never did it for the money. My goal was never to be rich. My goal was to have a successful business and give back. But that's what entrepreneurs, I really believe, I've studied entrepreneurs. They do it because they make life things better, they make life better, and that's what entrepreneurs do. I encourage you to get an education. Education develops confidence. It makes dreams possible. Keep physically fit. And it's okay to be a workaholic. I think hard work is good for you. I think most people enjoy working hard because you're contributing back and you're accomplishing things. So I think hard work. is good for you. Don't be afraid to have hard work. Have integrity and honesty in all situations. It's so important. Don't be afraid to work on commission because it's a good job. And like I mentioned earlier, if you enjoy what you're doing, you may never work a day in your life. I didn't make that up. I plagiarized that one, you know. But if you succeed, you have to be willing to fail. Be a goodster with what God has given you. And 36, I put that in there. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. As you know, John F. Kennedy made that statement. But I think that's so important today. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Make America a better country. And so I think that's important. So competition is the spice of life. Don't be afraid of competition. So that's a highlight of those 39 reasons. And by the way, this is available to, if anybody wants it, it's on the website. It's on American Furniture website. So most colleges love this thing. It's good teaching material.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, Jake Jabb's remarkable life growing up in Montana and through the Great Depression and World War II and the Korean War. What do you think about 2024 America? We certainly are at a very unique time as you look forward in the future. Hopeful or what do you think?
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I'm always a hopeful person. Right now it's a little harder to be hopeful. What bothers me a little bit, I think, you know, in America we could get better candidates, you know, just be more honest, more trustworthy people. But it kind of bothers me a little bit that we can't come up with better candidates. I'm talking about all the candidates. I'm not trying to pick on anyone in particular, but I think hopefully we could be better. But what I see, maybe one of the troubles with our process is you almost have to be a politician to get there. You know, that's a trouble. You've got to go to the Lincoln Day dinners. You've got to do the Buckeyes barbecues. I don't know if you remember way back, a long time ago, A bunch of my buddies wanted me to run for the Senate. I had a lot of people urging me to run for the Senate. I don't know if you remember that. I do, now that you mention it. And what it is, if you don't announce, if you spend $5,000, you have to announce. I never did spend any money because I got free publicity. There was an AP reporter in Evergreen who loved the idea of a businessman running for the Senate. So she gave me national publicity. Front page of the Denver Post, front page of the Rocky Mountain News. So I didn't have to spend any money. But the problem was when it came time to nominate, The Ken Kramer, who was a sixth term representative from Colorado Springs, it was his turn to run. You know, it was his turn to run. And I hadn't paid.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hadn't paid the dues.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hadn't paid the dues. And he got defeated by Tim Morris, by the way.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK.
SPEAKER 09 :
But anyway, but the problem is, is you have to be a politician and do all that. And I think that's kind of maybe one of the flaws of our system where you have to be a politician, almost be a professional politician.
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to be nominated and yeah i think people are ready to change that it seems it seems like that's the case jake jabs we are just about out of time and i want to say first of all thank you for sharing your story you're welcome this is uh just a real pleasure and uh thank you your story is truly a great american story and i so appreciate it well thank you it was my pleasure And our quote for the end of the show, because it's Independence Day, I went to the end of the Declaration of Independence, and this is what they said. And for the support of this declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for listening. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team I get to work with. Amazing people. Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. So Kim Monson dot com. And sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And we are pre-recording these shows, which we'll be broadcasting the week, obviously, of Independence Day week. And so pleased to have on the line with me Stan Everett. And he has done so much, particularly in northern Colorado, regarding freedom. helping people understand our founding documents. He and his family have been in the development business for many years. Stan Everett, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, Kim. Thank you.
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And first thing, let's just mention the Legacy Project. This is something that you started a number of years ago, and it's so important. So tell our listeners a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Started it about 15 years ago, and... It's a program that we have expanded quite a bit. We've got a few thousand people who have gone through the lessons at this point. I just finished a lesson two days ago, in fact, with a group in Denver that is really something that's fascinating. But as you know, we kind of walk through the founding documents in a way that is different than most American history is taught. We don't really talk about the people very much. We don't talk about military battles or strategies. We basically talk about the principles that the nation was founded upon, which would be the Declaration of Independence that lists these principles. And then how does the founding generation then order those principles into a government, into an economy? And then how do those principles exhibit and express themselves in the culture? So those lessons are typically an hour and a half each. We are now meeting more frequently on a five-week session. We've also done six-month sessions with one meeting a month instead of five weeks in a row, which is what we're doing more frequently now. But it's been very impactful, very informative, It's the Legacy Project because we're really using history to teach legacy. To my thinking, the legacy of what we have received is important and critical to the survival of the nation. But at the same time, you can use that model of a legacy that we are living in now in order for people to recognize that their lives individually and collectively can also be a legacy. And so they start to look at the value of a legacy in their lives, and that's really the most important part of the program as far as I'm concerned.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, it's such an important program. It normally has been guys. Is it still all guys, or have you branched out on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, on the short form, the five-week program, then we don't – We're really not narrowing it down to gender or age. We're teaching people that are in high school. We're teaching people in business, in education, all sorts of different cross-sections of our society. The longer form is more towards education. Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I think that that's important. As I've seen what's been happening over all these years, I think that it is important for men to come together and talk about these important principles. And women, I think it's important for them to come together as well. But I really want to acknowledge that. have been have have been kind of at the bottom of the the food chain if you will on all you know many things out there so i really i love the idea of men coming together to talk about these important issues and that's on your longer form how can people get more information about uh the legacy project stan everett well we still don't have a website and we don't intend to have one uh
SPEAKER 07 :
As I've described to you, our history includes an observation by Alexis de Tocqueville about our country. And one of the things that he has written about in his Democracy in America volumes is how people in America don't have to have an organization in order to do things. They'll build schools. They'll create businesses. missionaries that do all sorts of things that are basically just people getting together and deciding to do something. And it doesn't require a permit. It doesn't require somebody from the government sitting in on meetings. So I'm trying to model to these folks that I deal with that, you know, you don't have to create a nonprofit or you don't have to get into a corporate setting to just go out and meet with people and be with people and influence people. And so I'm kind of resistant to getting too formalized. But I think it's just something that is part of the legacy that we're trying to impart is, you know, you can do stuff without having to necessarily have to formalize it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. And is there a way if somebody wants to pursue trying to be part of one of these groups, is there a way to connect with you? Sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. My email is Stan. S-T-A-N at EverettCompanies.com, E-V-E-R-I-T-T-C-O-M-P-A-N-I-E-S.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. And we're talking with Stan Everett, and we have such important discussions with him regarding these founding principles. And we need to be dusting them off and understanding them, because I really think that we are in our third founding of our country at this particular point in time. And it really is up to us to not squander what has been given to us. And so first and foremost, we need to understand these principles. And we get to do all this because of our wonderful. And we have amazing sponsors here at the Kim Monson Show. One of those is the Second Syndicate. And I have on the line with me the co-founders of the Second Syndicate. And that is Alicia Garcia and Teddy Collins. And we are pre-recording for this week of July 4th. I'm now calling it Independence Week, Alicia Garcia. Instead of just Independence Day, I'm claiming the whole week. What do you think of that? I think let's go for it. And so let's jump in here. There is a lot that has happened. The second amendment, Teddy Collins, is put in the Bill of Rights for a specific reason, correct?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it's put in the Bill of Rights to protect the other amendments that are in the Bill of Rights. It's the enforcement mechanism, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that has really been under attack here in Colorado, Alicia Garcia. So let's talk about some of the things that are happening as of July 1 here in Colorado. Indeed.
SPEAKER 18 :
So we have two things that are going on. We have the first that's going into effect is a state permitting for gun shops. That goes into effect July 1. It's essentially a state-level permitting process in addition to federal-level permitting through the ATF and other federal regulations that the state of Colorado decided to impose on FFLs, which is firearms, federal firearms licensees. So such as, you know, home home based gun manufacturers or gun shops like my partner's Spartan Defense. There's also the new concealed carry laws that go into effect as of July 1st as well that they voted in in 2023.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that's why the work that you're doing at the Second Amendment is so important, Teddy Collins. And this is a grassroots organization bringing these voices together so that we can conserve, preserve our Constitution, our constitutional rights, Teddy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Yeah, here at the Second Syndicate, it's a grassroots 2A organization. It's a non-for-profit. We are trying to bring the 2A community together to fight back against these infringements on our constitutional rights, which seem to happen every single year here in the state of Colorado. Chunk by chunk, cut by cut, they keep adding more and more legislation and keep regulating and legislating our rights out of existence.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that's why the work that you're doing at the Second Syndicate is so important. And then, Teddy, you also, your company is Spartan Defense. Just tell us quickly about Spartan Defense.
SPEAKER 05 :
Spartan Defense, locally owned and operated Colorado Springs Firearms Store. We specialize in what we call auto-tanium, things that you don't see at your average firearms store. In fact, we have multiple state exclusives and very select firearms, everything from Atlas Firearms to Cabot and Alchemy, which is a state exclusive for us, Bull Armory, you name it, things that you're not going to see at your normal big box store. And actually today, for the Fourth of July, we'll be having a huge celebration, a Freedom Fest, out in our parking lot with live music and fireworks and speakers and everything else. So if you're going to be in the Springs today, come on down and join us for our Freedom Fest at Spartan Defense. And what time does that start? It'll start at 4 p.m. Okay. And we'll have live music and we'll have free haircuts for any veteran or active-duty military that want to come out and get a nice clean cut for America's birthday.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. I love that. And Alicia Garcia, our Bill of Rights is so important for everyday people. And the Second Syndicate is there, as you said, to protect, I guess Teddy said it, to protect all of our other rights. So expound upon that just a little bit more.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I truly believe that there are no rights if you can't have the ability to resist. So if you want to be able to speak up and you want to embrace the right to, you know, employ your First Amendment right and say, hey, you know what, this is my opinion and this is what I want to say. And you want to talk poorly about the government and you want to, you know, speak out against things that you don't agree with. You have the ability to say, you know what, I have the right to do that. And nobody could stop me from doing that because I can say no. That's what the Second Amendment is about. It's about protecting your personal interests as well as your ability to defend your views and your way of life. And that's exactly why we stand for the Second Amendment, because the second protects the first and it protects all the other rights that we have as human beings and Americans.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, absolutely. Alicia Garcia, thank you so much. Teddy Collins, what is the website for the Second Amendment or Second Syndicate? Sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're fine. It's the2ndsyndicate.com. So the2ndsyndicate.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Well, I wish both of you a very blessed July 4th Independence Day, and we'll talk next week. Thank you so much, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, so that we can pursue our happiness, which is straight out of the Declaration of Independence. On the line with me is Stan Everett, and he is the founder of the Legacy Project, which a few thousand people have gone through the program. And it's not really formal, but it's to talk about these founding principles of So, Stan Everett, where do you begin regarding these founding principles as people are going through the Legacy Project?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we start with a little bit of context. The important parts of understanding the history prior to the Declaration, and I really love the first few words of the Declaration, when in the course of human events, which to me signifies that These guys are looking backward from a premise or what has occurred, but they're also describing that this course of human events, there must be a course that is setting the future of human events. So to me, the course setter is what they're describing when you look at this from a theological or philosophical presentation. But the two biggest things in my mind, Tim, are the Great Awakening, which is the... the religious revival that has happened in the colonies. As well, there's the Enlightenment or the Age of Reason, which is the philosophical format. So those two things really influenced the founders in their education as well as their exposure to these ideas and ideals that are articulated by fellows like John Locke or Witherspoon, a great philosopher, pastor that wrote up and down, or I'm sorry, it was Whitfield, George Whitfield, that I think they say he preached 40,000 sermons in a couple of decades. I mean, you can't even imagine it. That has to be like five or six a day. It's amazing. So those influenced the creation of these principles that are articulated in the Declaration, and I always split the Declaration into four parts. One is the premise, one is the principles, one is the grievances, and the last one is the Declaration itself. So that's how we study it. And we study it by examining the words, their meanings, not in today's context, but mostly in the context of the Founders' past.
SPEAKER 19 :
There are those that have been taught that it was just a bunch of old guys, what does it really matter, and that they don't realize how educated they were and how beautiful their writing was. I would challenge many of our young people as they're getting out of school now to try to write a declaration like they did there. Those that have tried to really disparage the founders, I think people that buy into that have not really read the Declaration or the Constitution or any of those important documents.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, but that's the strategy of discrediting the author in order to discredit the words. We don't even talk about the authors. We talk about the ideas. And I think that really is a different approach to studying the Declaration. And Every meeting that we have when we start this study, I can tell you, somebody in the participant group is wanting to bring up the founders and how hypocritical they were and how they were slave owners. And this was all written for their benefit, which, of course, we're all flawed as human beings. So we're the founders. But to claim that everybody else is a hypocrite and not recognize that you yourself are a hypocrite is hypocritical in and of itself. So I think, you know, we can pass through all of the negativity and start to examine the words and the ideas behind those words and what are the source of the ideas. Like I was talking about the Great Awakening as well as the Enlightenment era. Those were influential on these ideas that they put forth. that really changed the trajectory of human civilization. It wasn't just a reorganization of society. It was a new civilization that they had created.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and those ideas, that civilization is under attack significantly in America today.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it always has been since the day it started.
SPEAKER 19 :
So the ink wasn't even dry. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, these are ideas that are so radical, but the simplicity and the magnificence of this piece of literature, people can skip over that. And when they do, then they can discredit it. But it's profound. And I've read about a guy named Roger Sherman, who was one of the authors, in fact, with the Committee of Five. And he had lamented that They didn't go into more detail. It's almost too succinct and too clear that people skip over it and they don't understand it because they take it for granted. So I think it's important to study the words and then study the impacts of the words that have created this new societal organization as well as a trajectory of human civilization that is just profound, just incredibly profound.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, when they pin the words, Jefferson pinned the words that all men are created equal with these rights from our creator of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I think we do in some ways gloss over those words, but it is one of it's some of the most radical words regarding a society that have ever been created. ever been written. And Calvin Coolidge is credited with saying, if all men are created equal, then that is final. And there isn't anything else. And I love that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Well, and it's a creator equality. It's not another human being. Lafayette, I'm sure you remember that from George Washington's attaché. He went to Africa, maybe it was South America, and tried to start a new society. He didn't use all men are created equal. He used all men are born equal. So that implies that the equality is then going to be derived from somebody else, a man or a human being. Whereas all men are created equal is profound in that my equality is coming from and I'm accountable to the creator who has given me that equality. And like you say, the next phrase is that I'm endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Those things are so succinct that you can skip over it and you don't recognize it. But this is a replacement phrase. with God or the creator of the king and the crown. So it becomes hard to argue against this theology. And the king of England didn't argue any of this. He just said, well, we're just going to win the war. We don't care what you're saying. But it changed so many things by looking to a higher power as opposed to another manpower.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, that is so profound. And in the next segment, in the Declaration of Independence, they refer to the Creator, I think, four different times. That's my understanding. So I want to talk with you about that. I'm talking with Stan Everett. He is the founder of the Legacy Project. And he and I were chatting a few months ago, and he said, Kim, I really want to focus on the Declaration and what that means exactly. And so that's why it's such an honor to get to record this and broadcast this on July 4th. And we get to do that because we have amazing sponsors.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me is Stan Everett. He is the founder of the Legacy Project. A few thousand people have gone through that project. And they talk about the founding documents. And we're talking about the Declaration of Independence. And before we went to break. Stan, I mentioned that in the Declaration of Independence, they refer to God, our Creator, four different times. First of all is nature's God, then the Creator, then, let's see, the Supreme Judge, and also the Divine Provider, Divine Providence. And I don't think that's by accident, is it?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, the Declaration itself is... really primarily theological as opposed to what people say is political or ideological or even philosophical. If you're replacing a human structure of the king and the crown with the creator, then that's a theological replacement. It's not a ideological replacement. So you're right. There's a lot of references there. And people just get over that, I think, more than they should. And I think they also frequently hear that, well, there's no reference to God in the Constitution, so therefore the next phase of this was proving that God really didn't have a hand in any of this.
SPEAKER 19 :
So how do you answer that when people say that? Because that is true, that they do not refer to God in the Constitution. So how do you address that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they do refer to the Declaration of Independence in the Constitution. We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union. And then it kind of goes through three or four different things that they consider to be what they're after here. But it ends with... to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. So blessings in the era of these people, where do you think blessings came from in their minds? From the Creator, and liberty is a theological concept. It is not a political concept. Now, you can have other nations speak in terms of liberty, but they're speaking in terms of freedoms. which is individual freedom that ultimately ends in self-destruction, or in the case of France, when they had liberty in theirs, and it ended up in anarchy and the transfer of power to more and more people, more and more structure that is not different. In our country, liberty is a different thing. In a theological sense, it's basically my free will, which is a God gift, that is then able to be directed. I can point my free will in a direction and make choices. So my free will is directed towards virtue, and my virtue is defined by my faith. So you can't ignore the theological foundation of all of this, and it's Protestant Christian theology. Particularly in the time that these founders were putting this together, That was the primary theology of the entire nation. So it's important to understand this as a document that really is honoring to a creator, to the God, to the supreme judge of the earth, and all of those things. So I appreciate that you bring that up.
SPEAKER 19 :
And in these references, and I never heard that regarding the Constitution. That makes so much sense. Blessings of liberty. Every word mattered. But let's talk about their reference to nature's God. During the break, you mentioned something very interesting about that, where they refer to nature's God in the Declaration.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the language they use is laws of nature and of nature's God. When I teach this, I don't complicate it. To me, it's not that complicated. The laws of nature would be man's human nature. Man has a human nature. And then nature of God, God has a nature distinct and different and higher than man's human nature. So if you think of the Declaration of speaking to the laws of nature and of nature's God, or human nature and God's nature, then it really becomes important or valuable to understand that in a theological sense. So man's nature is not pure as God's nature is. Man's bent towards wickedness or sin, and God's nature is perfect and eternal. and all of those things that we understand from our religious backgrounds. So they're distinguishing that at the very beginning of the premise that they came up with. So if you look at that, and you can get a PhD in natural law because it is a well-studied thing. But to me, it's not that complicated. I don't want to make it that complicated. It's easier to understand things in my simplistic mind if they're simple.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, yes, that's really, it is really important. And the Declaration, speaking of simple, it's not that long. And it's to the point. It's very succinct. And I would really recommend that people pull this out and read it again for themselves and read it with their children and their grandchildren. And it does not take that long.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. No, it's a one-page document on a, large piece of parchment is how it was handwritten, but it is not at all long. And the Constitution as a form of systemizing or organizing a government under the principles of the Declaration isn't that long or complicated either. The complications of the Constitution are intentional in order to then dilute power and make sure that not one segment of our federal government nor our state governments or the people have all the power residing in that. Too many people worship the Constitution. And all it is is a document that is systemizing the principles of the Declaration. In my opinion, if the House of Representatives, the people were elected every three years instead of two years, It doesn't mean the country would have failed or is failing. It just is a system that they put together on a two, four, and six time category as opposed to a three, five, and seven pattern. But the patterns, to me, are nothing more than just trying to systemize the principles of the Declaration. Which brings me to the principle in the Declaration that says that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That's a principle that flips the entire structure of rulers over subjects into a completely different category. So they're talking about this as a principle of how do we organize our civilization, which is completely radical and completely different than anything that has ever been seen on the planet before.
SPEAKER 19 :
So next question. So we have all kinds of government. We've got way too much government. We've got local, county, state, and federal. And I served on city council for four years, and I always tried to look at all that we were doing through this lens of the vision of the Declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So to me, that would mean that government doesn't pick winners and losers, that they don't give someone an advantage, because when you do that, then you're dinging somebody else. But the way of the Constitution giving states rights, and states have a lot of latitude to to make different laws, but I've always thought that every elected should always make sure that whatever they're doing stands up to this vision of the declaration. But with states' rights, there are those that say, well, states can do whatever they want. How do you address that, Stan Everett?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think this is a universal concept. It's not a specific concept. The Constitution is specific to the federal government and how the federal government relates to the states as well as the people. But the principle is a universal principle, that to secure rights, governments are instituted or formed deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That is a profound change in the way people would view things. And I think because it's universal, that should relate to the city council. It should relate to a school board. It should relate to any form of government that is represented by the people. And so I think you have the right idea. But the Constitution is strictly a limitation of government, really, that The 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights isn't really about rights as much as it's about limiting government power over people. And so I think you've got to look at all of this in the context of the principles to begin with, and then you really start to understand the depth of meaning. Because we have a form of government, this constitutional republic, Republic means everybody is equal under the law. And where do the laws come from? The Constitution. And how are they derived? Well, you have this process of laws that has three different branches of government. In one branch, you have two different branches itself. And then you have a judiciary. And then you have states. I mean, it's intentionally dysfunctional. so that we have to debate these ideas for making laws to make sure that we are representing the people properly.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we have prerecorded these shows for the Independence Day week, and they are rich. Just really special guests. And on the line with me is Stan Everett. He is the founder of the Legacy Project. We've been talking about the Declaration of Independence. And during the break, Stan, you said you wanted to talk about how they prioritize the language regarding the Declaration. What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think... My frustration is that everybody talks about the Constitution. Not that it's not a magnificent structure in order to then have kept us alive for, what, 250 years just under that longest lasting constitutional republic or form of government in the history of humanity. So the Constitution is a magnificent document. But if the Constitution isn't based on principles and understood to be based on principles by the people as well as those that are exercising in our government, then the Constitution has little value. And we've seen over the years where the Declaration has been brushed aside, and then we wonder why the Constitution seems to be violated at every turn. Well, because we aren't focusing on the principles that support the Constitution. We've ignored those principles and that frustrates me because the principles to me are what we should be understanding and then calling our political representatives to fall back on those principles as opposed to make it up because they're interpreting some document that's a little different than the guy next door who's interpreting. The principles are timeless and they're firm and they should be understood because they are very clearly written.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and those principles are basically what's in the Declaration that we have these unalienable rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, right? Those are the principles.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, there's five principles in the Constitution or in the Declaration of Independence.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we call them truths. We hold these truths to be self-evident. It's the beginning of that whole section.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And— The original draft from Jefferson on that was we hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable. So there's a little bit of theology there. But the principles themselves are that all men are created equal, principle one. Principle two, they're endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Principle three, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which needs very clear definition as to what those words mean. Plural number four, that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That's what we just talked about. That is a principle. And then the principle five, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government. laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness. So those are the five that's, because they all start with the word that as a way of listing out these different principles under we hold these truths to be self-evident. Boy, that is interesting. Yeah, I'll send you how I... separate this document of the Declaration into these four parts. As I teach it that way, people really latch onto it because it makes sense in almost a sequential, if I was writing something, you know, I'd want to start with the principles and then I'd want to start after the principles, I would list my grievances or the problems. And then the final section of the Declaration is the declarations that they're making. And with firm reliance on divine providence, we hereby pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. That is the declaration that they have made. So I'll send you a copy of it. So if you want to put it on your website while we're having this conversation over the fourth, that might be helpful for your listeners. Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. And I think probably what Zach will do is include that in the show summary so that it is there with the podcast. Language, nothing was by accident. And during the break, you mentioned something that I also have found rather remarkable, not in a good way, and that is that people think we are a democracy. We are the term threat to democracy, threat to democracy. and save our democracy. What do you say to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, democracy is a transitional form of governing. Democracy is completely dysfunctional. Every one of the founders have quotes about their hate or antipathy toward democracy. My favorite has been Franklin. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb. voting on what to have for lunch. So it's really despised, in fact, by the founders. And so we are a constitutional republic, republic meaning we are a rule of law nation. All people under the rule of law are equal. So equal justice under the law? You've heard that phrase. But it's a constitutional. Where do those laws come from? If we're going to be under the rule of law, where do those laws come from? Well, in our form, those laws come from our Constitution. That's the system as to how we make those laws. Now, in the Constitution or in the Republic of China... That isn't a constitutional, that's a party that determines the laws. So you have an oligarchy that is overriding or overseeing a party. And so those laws, even though they call themselves a republic, the origin of those laws comes from a different form than ours. So it's important to kind of distinguish what those are and quit talking about democracy. we're kind of getting close to democracy, which in and of itself fails, because you're going to end up with a society that is 49% versus 51%, and you're always going to be hating the other side. And so you're always going to want to override the other side, and then you take power, and then you abuse the other side, and then they take power, and so you're always back and forth. Ultimately, it ends up in anarchy, and anarchy always ends up in the outcome of an oligarchy. rule of elites.
SPEAKER 19 :
Boy, it sure seems like that there are elites that do want to try to rule us. And, uh, I guess that's why there's so many attacks upon this American idea.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, we've always been under attack. Uh, it's just out of the ordinary and it's so much of a flourishing of humanity and a sanctity of life or the sanctity of, uh, God's creation. So, uh, It will always be opposed by people who want to power over other people. Now, if you can tell me somebody who doesn't want to naturally overpower other people, that's a human nature characteristic. They don't exist. So you have to restrain yourself from these vices by trying to become a virtuous society made up of people aspiring to be virtuous. Can't be virtuous. You can't complete yourself as a virtuous person, but you can aspire to be. That's another characteristic of our nation and our people that is unique throughout the world as well as throughout history. The people aspire to be better. Better parents, better children, better husbands, better wives, better people in business. Just think of all the aspirations that this society holds that are not really available in other societies.
SPEAKER 19 :
And to aspire for these big ideas. And what we see in our culture now is this focus in many ways, even on carnal things, instead of these big, big ideas. And we need to think about these big ideas. We've got just about a minute left, Stan Everett. Thank you. And how would you like to button this up?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think with the 4th of July being the broadcast date for this, I would just ask people to look at the Declaration, read it. It doesn't take very long at all. If they want to go to your website and get this abridged form, it's all the same words, but it's just formatted a little bit differently. Instead of one page with all the sentences running together, which is what they wrote, because paper was kind of expensive and hard to come by, Look at it in this context, and then you will have a greater and a deeper understanding, I believe, of what it means and how it should be the primary document that our country is founded upon.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, Stan Everett, thank you so much. And we are so blessed with liberty because of these amazing documents, the Declaration of Independence. And I wish you and yours a very happy Independence Day. And we will talk again very, very soon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Kim. Great to hear from you and look forward to speaking with you again.
SPEAKER 19 :
Definitely. And our quote for the end of the show is Thomas Jefferson. He said this, a true patriot will defend his country from its government. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And wishing you a very happy Independence Day.
SPEAKER 10 :
To the mountains climbing, twisting, turning further from my home. Young like a new moon rising fierce. To the rain enlightening, wandering out into this great home. And I don't want no one to cry. But tell them if I don't.
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As the ACLJ celebrates its 35th anniversary, this episode reflects on the organization's legacy of fighting for justice and its future path. We also shine a spotlight on the heartbreaking flooding in Texas, which has garnered international attention. The discussion touches on global reactions, giving listeners a broader perspective on how American politics reach global audiences. We wrap up with an engaging Q&A session, where listeners call in to share their views and seek advice on these complex issues.
SPEAKER 06 :
we got breaking news a major lawsuit coming against president trump's big beautiful bill keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sekulow. We've got a packed show for you today with some breaking news that we're about to break down. Will Haines is joining me in studio as well as my brother, Jordan Sekulow. And we're going to have some special guests coming up a little bit later. So stay tuned for that. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-425-7000. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. And this is a big one that has to do with one of our standard issues here at the ACLJ, our fight against Planned Parenthood that has been going on for decades and decades. And of course, there has always been the conversation of what it would look like if the government defunded Planned Parenthood, stopped funding Planned Parenthood. It's been a campaign promise, I feel like, from multiple different presidents. One of the ones that has been one of the more difficult ones to actually get done. But now, thanks to the big, beautiful bill, whether you like it or not, I think everyone can kind of have an agree to disagree moments in every kind of bill like this. This is one of those positives, is that as Planned Parenthood, at least for the next year or so, has been or will be defunded. But now Planned Parenthood has responded. And Jordan, I'm going to let you talk about this because Planned Parenthood has responded in the court.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's interesting. They say that they're going to be suing the Trump administration, of course, and going to court. But that it's an unlawful and targeted attack. Here's the thing I think that we've got to kind of remind people about the victories and how they've kind of built upon one another. So first you overturn Roe vs. Wade. That means that there is no federal right to an abortion, which means states can legislate on abortion. So it doesn't mean there's no abortion, but it sends it back to the states. And we've seen it as basically a divide in the country, pretty even among partisan lines to some extent, some states more extreme, some states less extreme. Then you had a Supreme Court case just last week come out and say that states don't have to fund abortion providers through their Medicaid funding, which that's the vast majority of Medicaid funding actually goes from the federal government to states to administer. And what this does is says through this funding bill and through this legislation, the states won't even have to make that decision because no money for this set period of time. And then Congress will have to come back. But for this set period of time, no money can flow through Medicaid to any abortion provider. So this is why for Planned Parenthood, you know, we've talked about that's the four or $500 million a year that we've talked about being up against when we take on these kinds of groups, but those victories upon victories and battling it out for years, they build up upon it.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're going to break it down a lot more coming up in the next segment. And phone lines are going to be open for you because I know you have some questions. Obviously, we're still following since we've been off the air for the last couple of days last week during the holiday. Of course, we have been focusing on what's going on in Texas as well. I saw Ted Cruz this morning making his statements as the rescue operations continue. But we at least know so many unaccounted for, so many have tragically been lost in those floodings. So, again, our prayers are with them. I was in the U.K. over the weekend, and the number one story – was the texas floods so remember there are people around the world who are thinking about praying for the american people i think that's always important to know uh that it isn't something that's even localized i mean we were driving around late at night and they were playing live news conferences from um whether it was president trump or whoever it may be christy no i'm all talking about what was going on uh in Texas so of course our hearts are with them but you know there's not a whole lot that we can cover more than that just to say that you know we're praying for them if there's any way we can help of course we will but with that phone lines are open for you as the ACLJ celebrates our 35th anniversary throughout the month of July this is a big time it is ACLJ 35 and with that to help continue and make sure we have the resources to continue on for another 35 years. And when you hear something like Planned Parenthood has been defunded, understand how much the ACLJ has been involved in that fight. And we can't do it without you. So as we launch our 35 years of justice drive, and today's really the big kickoff day. We talked about it last week, but we knew that was a holiday week. This is the day things get started. So donate today and you will have your gifts doubled. If you're watching right now, you can scan the QR code or go to aclj.org slash 35 to give now. And if you can become an ACLJ champion, your first gift will be doubled still. And again, that's not doubled from you. That's matched from another donor. And as a monthly donor, you'll help support us year round and keep us in the fight for another 35 years. We'll be right back. We're going to break this all down and more coming right up. Welcome back to Secular. A lot of you are just joining us right now. We can tell by the numbers watching on YouTube and on Rumble. And if you are on one of those platforms like YouTube, I encourage you to hit that thumbs up. That really helps us out. And if you haven't subscribed, hit that subscribe. As we celebrate the ACLJ's 35th, you can be part of even the over half a million people who join us on YouTube just as subscribers. Millions of you join us on YouTube, but we know only about half of you subscribe. So go ahead and hit that subscribe button. I think we need to restate what's going on as we start screening some phone calls at 1-800-684-3110. We still got a couple lines open. It's a great time to call in. But Will, why don't you break down a bit of what has been going on at Planned Parenthood as Planned Parenthood has essentially said, no, we deserve... You can't cut our funding.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's our right to have the government fund us. That's right. So Planned Parenthood has said to President Trump, we'll see you in court. They're going to file a lawsuit arguing that the defunding of Planned Parenthood through the Big Beautiful Bill is unlawful, as they call it, a targeted attack. uh it's going to be interesting jordan to see what claims they make in this lawsuit especially in light of the supreme court decision just about a week and a half ago which paved the way saying that planned parenthood couldn't sue states for excluding them from the medicaid program that's exactly what this kind of does on a federal scale is that Federal dollars through Medicaid can't be going to Planned Parenthood. At the same time, Planned Parenthood is calling this a backdoor abortion plan, which I think reveals a little bit of the whole game. Yeah, they're finally agreeing with us, but they're now arguing that that's why you can't defund them. So what do you think they're going to even try to argue in light of what the Supreme Court said at the state level? How are they going to try to wiggle their way out of that and say, well, federal level, this is clearly illegal.
SPEAKER 03 :
and targeted yes so I think the argument is it's a targeted you know focus on Planned Parenthood because they do also provide abortions so they're going to have to make that argument in court which they don't want to make in public which is that none of this money is supposed to go not a single dime to go towards any abortion at all, any kind of abortion procedure, any facility at all that would actually do the abortion, so you've got to have some separation there. But when they're fundraising and when they're speaking to the press, it's all about they're defunding Planned Parenthood as a backdoor abortion ban. So what are they saying? Well, if you don't give Planned Parenthood money, you are defunding the abortion industry. And for so long, the argument... that they would make to the American people and in Congress was, don't worry if you oppose abortion, it's okay because that money's not going there. They've now switched their argument to, if you take away our money, you're taking away abortion. Now some of that is where the debate has changed, but it's also the real clear admission of what we've been saying for three decades. which is that every dime that goes to Planned Parenthood is another dime towards abortion, and it's half a billion dollars a year. And so that's why they're having to immediately take this kind of action. And I have to actually applaud the House Republicans who took this vote and the Senate Republicans who took this vote under some significant pressure because we've seen the backlash against the pro-life movement in the states.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's not the most popular thing in a lot of states. And maybe you can even break that down of why this has always been One of those campaign promises that never can seem to be kept.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I think it's... A lot of people don't like the idea that their money and their taxpayer dollars would go to provide abortion services. But then when we actually saw Roe vs. Wade get overturned, and these were no longer ideas or theories that we would like to do, but they were actual, real... We could actually... basically defund Planned Parenthood for real and see the impacts of that. There was a panic. And I think that the PR campaign run by the abortion industry was a lot more organized because they are trying to save a business. Whereas we're activists and interest groups, they are saving a over billion dollar a year business and their business is abortion. They don't make money off of giving out birth control. They make money off of abortion procedures, whether that's being refunded by Medicaid, like $500 or $600 a time, or being paid out of pocket.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, I don't want to put any other organization like ours on blast, but also understand this. We've been fighting for this for 35 years. And when Roe vs. Wade got overturned, we were very excited. When these things happen, we're very excited. These are positive movements. Now, of course, you have to be able to fight back. But you know what? A lot of other organizations, again, name names, call names, they saw this as a panic moment for them as well. Because... pro-life movement has been something they've been able to fundraise on for years and years and years. And what happens if there's no abortion? Then all of a sudden there's no campaigns. What are they going to do? Well, we said, I sat in a room with our team and said, listen, we know this issue is going to be changing. How do we make sure that you are staying informed? Because it doesn't go away. Now, It has been hard to convince people, to explain to people that just because Roe versus Wade was overturned doesn't mean abortion doesn't exist. In fact, it does in maybe even a more extreme sense in different areas, different states. But that has been a learning curve that we've had to tell you and tell our audience and really learn ourselves of what the next chapter of this fight does look like. This is part of that. This is part of that in terms of defunding Planned Parenthood, getting involved in different ways and doing, whether it's our Massachusetts campaign, ways that you can go to those states that are never going to probably vote for a pro-life amendment that are maybe going to make it even easier. Maybe they're going to use your taxpayer dollars to bring people in. How can we help in that sense? And that's why the ACLJ at ACLJ 35 right now, our 35th anniversary, it is about evolving. It is also about looking at how those issues that are always going to be core to us, but what do they look like for the next 35 years? What do they look like for the next generation that is going to be fed another group of lies? What's going to happen when there's another democratic president, which will happen in our life likely. If we're just going to look at time, okay, it's flip-flopped our entire life. It has flip-flopped. So likely that will happen again. And what does that look like? You have to play the long game here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I'll go to you, Jordan.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just think we need a revitalized pro-life movement, right? So we had the first phase of the pro-life movement was, can we ever overturn Roe versus Wade? Can we get to the point where we've educated people enough on the issue legally and publicly to where we're no longer going to have abortion without any restrictions at all? You know, it was completely unregulated. You couldn't even treat it like a like a ambulatory care center. It didn't have to meet those kind of standards, yet they were doing invasive operations. And we saw the horrors that came out of a lot of the exposure that Planned Parenthood received because of the way of new media access, because you got to cut through the mainstream media who was so in the pocket of Planned Parenthood. And then... We saw the overturning of Roe v. Wade. We had Dobbs. And that's when you need round two. I said the fight was going to get harder because now we have to take it to states and educate people who in the past it was easy to say you're pro-life and basically say, oh, I'd love to take this action. Let's do this action. But you know either it wasn't going to get through Congress to a president's desk or it was going to be overturned by a court very early. And so it was a lot easier. It was a lot of traffic. to to say you're part of the cause when you weren't actually inflicting any pain on the abortion industry and now that we are now that we are we have to have a revitalized movement in our country which understands this fight is just beginning it's the new round it's a new round and they've got it they've still got a billion dollars in the bank and again i mean i saw people who were the most pro-life activists
SPEAKER 05 :
turn on it and say, you know, I was all for making abortion illegal until this happened. And now maybe I was wrong the whole time. And again, those people are fair weather and clearly are being controlled also by a pocketbook. They're not being controlled about actually convictions or issues or how they feel. And if that's sad, But that's not what we do here. We go for the win. And I think the ACLJ has always done that. We're not just going to go for a case that we know we're going to lose and then we're going to put up a bunch of money. We're going to fundraise from you. We're going to ask you for a bunch of money when we know good and well that we're going to lose because you're in a court that's not going to or you're not going to do this. There's all these different variables because we have smart people. It's not what we do here. We go for the win. We go for the win, whether it's good for fundraising or not. But that is why it's so important that we're here. And we're here because you bring us here. And of course, that is ACLJ supporters and ACLJ champions.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and Jordan, I want to bring up one other thing as well, because what Planned Parenthood is arguing here is that we are entitled to federal dollars. You cannot take away federal monies from Planned Parenthood. At the same time, And they're going to say it's discriminatory and all these things in their lawsuit, even though we have that win out of the Supreme Court. We know we'll have to engage that when it's filed, that the ACLJ will be writing a brief as well. But we also look at what we're fighting right now in Massachusetts. where pregnancy resource centers that get no federal dollars are being targeted by the Commonwealth and an abortion activist group that were running ads with taxpayer dollars to discriminate against them trying to provide care, not taking federal money, and yet we're having to fight that in court at the same time. I think it's a very jarring contrast of Planned Parenthood saying, we are entitled to federal dollars, but in Massachusetts, the government can run,
SPEAKER 03 :
an attack ad against a pregnancy resource center that's pro-life yeah the worst kind of precedent you could set in america is that we elect our leaders at all these different levels and when they ultimately get to the level where they've appointed justices to the supreme court who decide that there's no federal right to this and even if there was Is there a federal right to funding it? I mean, that's a totally different argument itself. And the issue was always, no, you can't actually force anyone to fund abortion. So Planned Parenthood used these accounting, they call it the backdoor abortion ban, because they don't want to admit that actually it's just an accounting practice. So the same facility that is providing abortion is also taking in the federal dollars and saying, well, this part of the facility doesn't provide abortions. No one is entitled to our taxpayer dollars. Every corporation that gets a grant, whether it's a military company doing the newest plane or jet, they have to bid for it. They have to have the best. And we know there are other options that are better than Planned Parenthood. Drive by a Planned Parenthood and look at some other community health centers, and you'd rather go to the other community health center than a Planned Parenthood. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We'll try to take some calls coming up in the next segment because we have a packed back half as well. So again, 1-800-684-3110. Two lines are open. Of course, become an ACLJ supporter or champion. When you become a champion, you get bumped to the front of the line, and that means, Jim, you're coming up first. Welcome back to Sekulow. I do want to take some phone calls coming up in this segment because there's a lot of you that have been on hold for a while, and we got a lot going on in the back half of the broadcast. So let's go to Jim, who is an ACLJ champion. First, I want to say thank you. And for those that don't know, ACLJ champions are people that give on a monthly basis, recurring, automatically, and we really appreciate it. It helps create an incredible baseline for the organization as a whole. So Jim from California, you're up first. Welcome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm happy to help you guys. What you guys do is fantastic. What I love about the big beautiful bill is when the president tried to overturn Obamacare in his first term, John Roberts had the deciding vote at SCOTUS. It was a bill passed by Congress, signed by the president, so therefore it was a law. Congress is their taxing authority. This is, in my opinion, it's the same situation. It was a bill. It's going to the president's desk, passed by both houses. Once the president signs it, it should remain to withstand the constitutional challenges that Planned Parenthood, who are scrambling at this point, will eventually lose.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'll let Jordan comment on this because I think that people who have issues with the big beautiful bill or have issues with certain clauses and things that are in it it's not whether about whether this is legal uh you know clearly it passed no i think it's just whether it's something that's the correct decision yes i think that listen i think that they will fight it out in court because they have to because it's so much funding and it's so important to their bottom line but the end of the day
SPEAKER 03 :
the Democrats wouldn't have been working so hard who are in the pocket of the abortion industry would not have been working so hard to even pressure Republicans in kind of closer swing districts, because they're always worried about the next election cycle to support this or water it down because of the fact that they know that it's a much tougher road in court. Listen, I think that Jim, you know, a decade ago, maybe a little bit longer, uh, This would have been a much tougher haul if we had gotten this law done without the overturning of Roe versus Wade and without the Medicaid ruling on the Supreme Court. But we now really have precedent to go on that this is new territory. It's why I said revitalized effort. We have to look at all this through new prisms now and a new set of Supreme Court precedent. Realizing that, yes, at any moment can it slip away like you were talking about, Logan? Yes, it can. But we have to remember now we're on the winning side of this in court. So we need to start winning this more politically. We get these political wins. Let's make sure we defend them and back up the people who voted this in. So make sure that if you've got a member of Congress who is in a tough district, that you're going to back them up on taking these votes because that's ultimately what it comes down to is continuing to elect bold enough members of Congress who who will get this to a president's desk, who we know is very bold on these issues and is not going to back down if you get it to their desk. And there's nothing better. Executive orders are wonderful. You can do a lot of things to that temporarily, but there's nothing better than actual legislation. It's much tougher to challenge in court. And even when they do, it's an uphill battle. And I think this is a loser for Planned Parenthood saying that they are entitled to money. No one should be entitled to our taxpayer dollars. And that should be reviewed all of the time. That should be a continuous review by the federal government.
SPEAKER 07 :
government and jordan i think another angle to this is another big win we had at the supreme court uh where we represented with the state of west virginia with the nationwide injunctions ruling because if you were to think if this bill passed two and a half weeks ago before that what is the first thing planned parenthood would do file no matter what the brief says they Find the right judge who would put a nationwide injunction on that portion of the bill so that, and like we said, it's only a year at this point because of the parliamentarian had to rule. It was 10 years. They had to bring it down to one because of other spending cuts. And we know that reconciliation, you have to fit within these parameters. So if it's a year and an injunction gets placed on it, then you're funding them for the year before it even gets to the merit stage of the case in most places. So I think that that's another victory that we had a big hand in. Our language was used in the decision by Justice Barrett. And without something like that, that's an easy thing that in the past Planned Parenthood would find the right judge, get an injunction against it, and therefore continue to receive these taxpayer dollars basically until it doesn't matter anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is where politics becomes so important. with the legal effort. So you fight the legal battles so you get to these moments politically so you can pass this legislation much more confidently. Now let's make sure you say, you know, it lasts a year. So let's make sure we defend this in court so it does go into effect. And I think that because of that win on the injunctions issue, it becomes much tougher for them to get these full hold stops. And then second, let's make sure we have this marked on the calendar and to make sure... Why are midterm elections important? Well, if you care about life and you care about this issue and you don't want your taxpayer dollars going to the number one takers of unborn children's life, which is Planned Parenthood by far, then let's make sure. And by the way, this defunds the entire abortion industry. Planned Parenthood is the number one, but it's not like they can change their name and they suddenly will get this money. If you care about this issue, let's make sure we keep these majorities. They're slim. Let's make sure we keep these majorities, and then we can pass it for another year and another year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we got a lot of calls about that, worrying about the one-year thing. We'll get to those a little bit later in the broadcast. I do want to take, let's take Kelly in California. Kelly, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, thank you. I think you've kind of already touched on this since I've been on hold. But I've just never understood why Planned Parenthood has been so entitled to our taxpayer dollars when organizations like Life Network have to completely do it all on their own without any assistance. And it always seemed to me like when Planned Parenthood was getting all this funding, you know, 50% maybe should go to organizations like Life Network.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think when Planned Parenthood started getting their funding, it was not really a political issue. It was something people didn't talk about. They were talking about the 1960s and 70s. You weren't talking about anything involving sex or abortion anywhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, this really wasn't an issue that became, especially an evangelical issue.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it took a long time for people and then it took what happened in the 80s to actually talk about it at your church and then to talk about your community to have discussions about it where it became a normal political topic that presidential candidates were asked about directly. So you have to remember the time period also has racist roots. So a lot of this family planning that we were talking about was done in where? Inner cities, population control of specific groups, and at the time it was mostly targeted African Americans. If you still look today and look at where Planned Parenthood facilities are and look at the demographics of who lives in the area, You will see time and time again.
SPEAKER 05 :
The R1 here in Nashville that existed for a very long time, it was so ridiculous where it was located that it was essentially made for an inner city area to be walkable. It was so depraved because it was so abundantly clear. This was not what they sold it as. Like you said, the origins are in eugenics. The origins are in race control. Racial population control.
SPEAKER 03 :
yeah exactly and sadly that they want to export to the world so that's why they're so they're so big on their international funding is they want to export that to places in countries in africa they want to say keep your population low keep this low i mean it the roots of it are so obvious when you just look at a map of their locations
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. Look, we got one minute left in this segment. Some of you lose us for after the first half hour if you're watching on or listening on terrestrial radio. But we are broadcasting live each and every day because of people like you who support this broadcast. And that is from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern time. You can work your way back. We are live Monday through Friday. And of course, we post a lot of other great content on ACLJ.org through the ACLJ app, through Rumble, through YouTube. However you get media, we are there, Instagram. But I would encourage you right now for the second half hour coming up, support the work of the ACLJ, do it today. We are in the very, today's really the big kickoff of us celebrating 35 years, 35 years of justice. Jordan and I helped found this organization on our kitchen table when we were just kids. with our parents. And we want to see it go on and on for the next 35 plus years. We can't do that without you. So let's celebrate our victories while continuing to look to the future of what can get done. And we've seen amazing work. We'll be right back. Second half hour coming up. Really short break.
SPEAKER 06 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Secular.
SPEAKER 05 :
For those just watching right now, we're going to restate what we're talking about here. And there is a lot going on in the news. And look, there's a lot of people who have called in sharing their love, their prayers for everyone in Texas. Of course, we don't want to forget that those search and rescue efforts are still ongoing, that the recovery effort is still ongoing. It's tragic. It is horrible. And the big questions will be asked, I'm sure, a little bit later of what can be done. I saw it with Ted Cruz saying, look, you always look back and go, okay, what can we do to do this better in texas they're used to hurricanes they're used to these kind of things what can they now do about this sort of flash flooding situation but it's heartbreaking again i was in the uk over the weekend number one story uh on the news was this number one story was going on in texas and look much like the topic we're talking about today american politics i think we need to understand uh reaches all ends of the world jordan can tell you this he was just over there Every time we turned on the news, because you kind of want to see what's going on locally, what people are talking about. Sure, they have their prime minister, who is currently not the most beloved. who, again, talks about having a good relationship with President Trump. And there is an interesting connection there. And then there is a far left party being formed, Jeremy Corbyn, and a far right party being formed by Nigel Farage. So they're about to have this sort of another split moment. But what were people doing? They were focusing on President Trump and what's happening in America. And what was happening in Israel and Gaza. I'd say those were the two top issues. But we saw all their hearts turn to Texas. And I thought that was very moving to see. Because I don't feel like if this had happened in London, happened somewhere else in our world, that likely it would dominate our news. But it does there. Because as goes America, so does the rest of the world.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, you think about these kind of tragedies, they're happening every day all over the world, unfortunately, because we're one of those countries where it's rare that it happens. In a lot of places, unfortunately, this is kind of common that if you live near any kind of bodies of water, that these kind of things happen, they don't have the technology. That's why the shock is there, too. I mean, it's the loss of life, number one. Children are involved here, so there's that second part. A lot of people are taking their kids to camp right now. My daughter was going to the lake with her friend on July 4th weekend, and you start thinking about these stories, and
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I was on a train with a couple from Atlanta and they said, you know, we're here because our kids are at sleepaway camp. Right. You know, like we came to London to, they came to see Oasis also, but they were there knowing that. And we were talking about how, you know, this isn't something you expect.
SPEAKER 03 :
But on the other hand. I think we want the United States to be that country, right? Don't you want to go around the world and see that your country is number one? That's why I get the isolationist kind of feel in the United States. We don't want to be the world's policeman. At the same time, you want to be the leader of the world because coming up behind you is definitely China. I mean, I saw yesterday, today from the Ford Motor Company CEO who said, we need to learn from the Chinese on cars. Oh, I've heard about some of it. And I'm not saying that the vehicles aren't well built and they don't have great technology. A lot of it is stolen. And a lot of it's used, you know, they use cheap labor on the borderline of slave labor to build it. So, of course, the prices are lower.
SPEAKER 05 :
They have some wild cars.
SPEAKER 03 :
The rest of the world is going to use their vehicles to a greater extent than even the U.S. And then we're right on the line. Right now we don't allow them in. But how long do those negotiates go? So don't you want to be the country? Because right now it's not China. They're not focused on Chinese domestic issues. Don't you want to be the country that everyone else is watching? Because that means you're the most powerful country in the world.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that was the conversation I was having. It was a lot about President Trump and it was a lot about what was happening because they have a lot of the same issues there. And they're trying to kind of look to America to see if those issues are going to permeate over here. By the way, if you're on the left or on the right, they're looking at the far left is going. I mean, they were legitimately saying some of the stuff that's happening. We are worried is going to work its way over to the UK. And of course, a lot of the conservatives are like, we better. I hope so. So it was really an interesting and kind of an enlightening experience to have these conversations with just people, just people that we happen to connect with. And American politics and American life was on the tip of their tongue. And they knew everything. Whether it was podcasters here in Nashville that they watch every day. Or, you know, Joe Rogan or all these people that are. They do love Nashville. That's what I got for my month away. Everyone wants to come to Nashville, which I understand. It's a great place. phone lines are open for you and we're going to take some more calls coming up at 1-800-684-3110 and continue to support the work of the aclj as we head into this break you're going to hear it a lot this month you know what we're celebrating big and we should because it is 35 years of the american center for law and justice 35 years since we started this and it is now time to not only celebrate but plan for the future So right now, scan that QR code, go to aclj.org. We'd like to hear from all of you too. Call in at 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Seculo. Secretary Mike Pompeo is joining us live right now. Secretary Pompeo, there's been a lot of talk in Israel. I just got back late last night from a trip to the UK. It's clearly on the mind of the whole world talking about Israel and Iran. Honestly, I was very... moved to see the Texas story was actually probably the number one story that was going on to hear the people's prayers and support but right behind that is the relationship between the United States at that point the UK and what is going on in Israel and we know that Prime Minister Netanyahu will be in DC this week some people are calling that the victory lap because of what happened in Iran there did seem to be some relief with that though there were some posters saying stop you know bombing in Iran there were a lot of people that felt pretty good about that operation. And of course, there has been the discussion of a ceasefire. Will that ceasefire actually happen? Will we see a return of any hostages? Or are they just going to make this sort of a celebratory moment for Israel and America? But I wanted to hear from you. Do you think that ceasefire is back on the table or where are we at?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's great to be with you again today. Look, I think the ceasefire is a possibility. This is certainly not a victory lap. I know Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Trump don't consider it as such. There's still a great deal of work to do. And as long as those hostages are held, it is certainly not the moment to claim victory. It's still going to be incredibly difficult. Hamas is still hanging on and they're hanging on to those hostages for a reason, because that's the one thing that keeps them in power, gives them leverage. And so I expect there will still be differences. Maybe they can get to a moment of ceasefire. But really, we should all just step back and think that how much things have changed, whether it's Hamas, whether it's Hezbollah, whether it's the Houthis, all powered by Iran. They have been greatly weakened as the result of the Amazing work that the Israelis did and the boldness of President Trump in taking the strikes against Iran. There is real opportunity in front of us and in front of the Iranian people. And I hope that we will all collectively find a way to seize this moment to get a really good outcome. More nations joining the Abraham Accords and recognizing Israel's fundamental right to exist as the Jewish homeland.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mr. Secretary, you wrote a piece just about a week ago in the Wall Street Journal, or you were at least quoted in this, about how we're talking about that Iran's threat isn't just around specifically Iran. the proxies we know, the Houthis within the Gaza Strip with Hamas and in North and Lebanon, but that their proxies and spies and network are all around the world, including in Latin America and South America, and that this is a big problem while they may be on their best behavior after their nuclear program being attacked, that that threat still remains and that we should be clear-eyed about that. I just want to get your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 04 :
We should not forget that the Iranians have known that their real capabilities to defend themselves were not much. So they use these proxy forces, the ones we are so familiar with in the Middle East, but also their global network. I read a story that there are claims now that the Swiss believe that the Iranians killed a couple of their diplomats. know they've conducted assassination efforts around the world some successful in europe they tried to kill the saudi ambassador here in washington dc years back this is a theocratic jihadist network that they have built out to give them a real leverage where nations won't take action against them because they're afraid that their own homeland might be attacked and And I know our FBI, our intelligence agencies are working hard to protect us here in our country. I hope every nation recognizes that this Islamic Republic of Iran under the Ayatollahs is one that is intent still on destroying the West. And so in spite of the fact their nuclear program has been materially set back, there's still real risk that remains.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mr. Secretary, one of the big things that's going on in the media talking about Syria, and we know the leadership of Syria has a bad past, not necessarily the people you would think would normally be negotiating with the United States or even with Israel. But we're seeing some reports that the U.S. is trying to broker a deal to end the conflict along the Israel and Syria border. One area you know a lot about, mainly because you were the first diplomat, I believe, to ever go to the Golan Heights from the United States. The United States, under your leadership, recognized that as a part of Israel, a territory that Syria tried to claim. But... What we're seeing now is a step forward where there could be some negotiation. I want really a clear-eyed assessment of, as people talk about this potentially happening, how do you see this going? Is this something that a leader in Syria with the past that that leader has could surprise everyone and be willing to even maybe one day join something like the Abraham Accords? I know you have a lot of expertise, and I think it'd be great for our audience to hear this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Goodness, I do have a lot of practitioner's wounds and experience associated with this. That is for sure. Look, we all know the Bible a little bit, right? The road to Damascus is where lots of conversions happen. So this is the place where miracles can be worked. And so, you know, I'm optimistic. The new leadership post-Assad in Syria has a devilish time. to figure out how to consolidate and actually lead all of Syria not just Damascus whether it's the Kurds in the east the Turkish influence in the north a complicated problem set and coming to an accommodation with Israel would be enormously valuable to that new leader so maybe he will find a way maybe he will find a path that says I'm going to protect Christians in Syria I'm going to protect the Druze, the minority religions in my country, and actually build a Syria. And when I do that, I want to have the Israelis as my partner, not my adversary. And so all the incentives do align for him to find a path forward. His history suggests that that will be difficult. And frankly, Syria's history suggests that will be difficult. But boy, what a remarkable outcome for all of the Syrian people, for Israel, for the Gulf Arab states who are working on this project too, if we could find a pathway to actually build a coherent Syria that wasn't an extremist, that wasn't radical, that wasn't Islamist, that was just trying to take care of its own people, this would be an extraordinary turn of events in global history.
SPEAKER 05 :
Secretary Pompeo, as we head into our last segment here, we're going to take some phone calls at 1-800-684-3110. Today, we're kind of kicking off officially the ACLJ 35th anniversary. We call it ACLJ 35, as we have been fighting for all of these values and all of these issues for so long. You've seen it firsthand. I wanted to give you a minute to just explain to our audience what you've seen with the work of the ACLJ over your work, either with us, but also individually. even before working with us directly, seeing the impact that this organization has had over the last few decades as we have been so involved on some of the top issues. And there are some of the issues that now we're seeing as the headlines.
SPEAKER 04 :
My goodness, the ACLGA was a blessing to me when I was a member of Congress back in 2010, 2011, 2012. I got to know you all and your team working on the things that mattered most to my constituents, protecting the lives of the unborn, making sure that the elderly were taken care of as well, that we didn't have crazy euthanasia laws here in the United States, things that I was involved with that you all were leading on. These issues with respect to Israel were top and center for the ACLJ. The litigation against the radical left at the ICC, all of these things mattered to me as a representative for South Central Kansas. And the ACLJ was both helpful in me understanding and being informed, but also then was a thought leader in helping me and my team successfully try to navigate these issues as a member of Congress. The work you've done has been important for all across our country and continues to this day. 35 years is hard to believe it's been that long, but a glorious 35 years it has certainly been.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Secretary Pompeo, for joining us. Thank you for your support over the years and, of course, being a valuable member of our team over the last few years as well. It's been really amazing to have you as part of our broadcast team as well as writing some great pieces you can go see at ACLJ.org. You know, one of the things we do is give you those opportunities, give people the opportunity to write incredible content. And we put that content, by the way, available on our website absolutely for free. None of it's behind a paywall. And I know I harp on that. But there's very few places now that do that. How often are you on an article? You scroll down once and all of a sudden it says, log in. It says, give us your money. It's only 50 cents, whatever it is, whether it's a newspaper, whether it's a magazine, whether it's a conservative pundits, there's all of these places that are just asking you for money to see their content. We do is say, Hey, We want to make sure our content is seen by the most amount of people as possible. Now, to do that, we have to be funded. We have to be funded by people like you who listen to this show, who understand the incredible work the ACLJ team does legally and in the media. But we don't want to put our content behind a paywall. We want to make sure you can share an article with your friend. You can share this broadcast with your friend, show them a video, and they don't have to lock in or steal your login like it's some sort of streaming service. You know, it's just available for you. And we want to be able to do that for almost all of our content. So I encourage you to make sure that stays a reality to support the work of the ACLJ financially. And again, it's our big 35th. And with that, all donations are doubled right now. That's right. They're matched. So you can become a monthly donor as an ACLJ champion or give a one-time donation. Either way, the first one will be doubled, matched by another incredible ACLJ supporter, ready to unlock their pledge. So right now, they have pledged to double whatever donation comes in at ACLJ.org slash 35. So that could be $10, that could be $1,000. Whatever it is, it could be more than that. The impact on the world is at stake, and we need your support to continue on for another 35 incredible years. We'll be right back with your calls and comments in just a moment. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We're going to take as many calls as we can right now. I actually want to kick this off with Jeff, who's an ACLJ champion. Jeff, from California, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, Jordan. This is Jeff Hennigan. And, you know, I just spent time in Ireland. My wife is Irish. So, you know, the press reports over there consistently are about the number of Gazans killed or starved by Israel's, you know, military occupation, their actions. And it's, you know, if you can believe the reports, it's no wonder the Europeans are, you know, four square against Israel. I mean, if children are being starved, I mean, that's the report they get every day from between 25 and 150 people. So I'm asking about the reality of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Jeff, we all know what some of the reality is, but you are right in the fact that that is one issue in Europe that seems to be certainly leaning one way dramatically.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they're preaching to a population, too. They're preaching to a population they're actually scared of. And because they're scared of that population... taking to the streets and causing violence. I mean, the terrorism that we saw under ISIS was, you know, we experienced it here in the United States. It was nonstop in Europe. And still, around holiday seasons, especially Christian holidays, the amount of security that goes up around Christian areas, even to this day, even just during summer holidays and travel. In France, it's the French military on the streets. It's not police. It's not SWAT team. It's actually military... with full-on machine guns protecting Christian areas of the city because they know that those are targeted areas for terrorism. At the other hand, remember, why did the war start? Because of what happened on October 7th. And when wars start, it's not pretty. Now, if you only show one side of it, it's even worse because it makes the other side look like they're horrendous. But remember, there's a reason why this conflict started and it's well documented. We could all watch what happened on October 7th and a country that's in a more powerful position has to respond to protected citizens and send a message to the world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and Jeff, I want you to hear this headline from a British newspaper, The Guardian. Rights groups warn Gaza Humanitarian Foundation it may be liable for international law violations. So that's what they're hearing in Britain. That's what they're seeing in the UK. If they see the headline and don't read the article, oh, the people that are feeding the people of Gaza that are getting humanitarian aid in, they may be liable for international law violations. What is that? What are they doing? Listen to this quote. This is from the director of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights, another signatory to this group that called on them to cease their operations, sending humanitarian aid, food into the people of Gaza, said it's immoral and inhumane when those committing the genocide take responsibility to feed those whom they have starved. So Israel can't win in Europe or with the Palestinians. If you give them the food, you're committing a war crime?
SPEAKER 05 :
But you're still in war. Yeah, it's absurd. But sadly, it is the case, and it does seem like that. Hey, Jeff, I appreciate it. We're going to have to take some more calls because some of you have been on hold for a long time. We only got five minutes. Mary Ellen, Illinois, go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, hello. I'd just like to be sure that I understand this correctly. When the House passed the bill, the big, beautiful bill to the Senate, we didn't have any time frame on the defunding Planned Parenthood. Then I find out, oh, it's 10 years. Now it's down to only one year. Right. Our Republicans, I presume, were the ones negotiating this. And it's like, I remember reading many years ago a book called Planned Bullyhood. What these politicians, or the Planned Parenthood does, is they give money to every candidate, or try to give it to every candidate. So it's like, well, why would the Republicans be advocating for less than forever?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think, listen, one, there's parliamentarian rules. There's a lot of politics at play here. We kind of take for granted, I think, that the vast majority of kind of nationally known Republicans have a pro-life, they take a pro-life stand. But that's not the case across the board. There's still some holdouts in the Senate and even more so sometimes in the House. And there's elections coming up again. And so they put the pressure on to say, you know what? If you take this vote, we're going to make abortion an issue in your race. And if we make abortion issue in your race right now in a swing district, that hasn't turned out so well. So again, politics plays a role here.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Thank you, Mary Ellen, for calling in. Jeff in Ohio, you're up next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, yes. Will the defunding of Planned Parenthood have any effect whatsoever on the production of abortifacient pills?
SPEAKER 05 :
On the production? I don't believe so. I don't think they were necessarily the ones producing them as much as they were distributing them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Getting them for nothing and getting them in a way that was not even overseen correctly medically, that becomes, again, that changes. Distribution changes. But will it still be available in the states that allow it? Yes, it will still be available. Remember, abortion will still be legal. It's that the number one provider of abortion and other providers of abortion won't be getting a taxpayer bailout for their industry anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what the next caller kind of wanted to talk about. Let's go to Bob, who's calling on line three. Bob, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, guys. I think Planned Parenthood is so basically, fundamentally, blatantly unserious. They're going into court without asking for equal funding for abortion. pregnancy crisis centers. And I don't think they, unserious people should be heard in court.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, Bob, of course, that has been the argument all along, which is they think of crisis pregnancy centers, or we call now pregnancy resource centers, as the big villain.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's because it's competition. I mean, remember, I always talk about Planned Parenthood as a business because they're a billion-dollar-a-year entity. So make sure you realize when you have a billion-dollar-a-year entity and you threaten that billion-dollar-a-year entity at all, and you're a much smaller entity, They're going to come after you in any way they can. And so while they're kind of swimming upstream right now trying to save their federal funding, at the same time they're trying to villainize anyone who in the states may deflect from one of their $500 abortion procedures. They don't care if the money is coming from a reimbursement from Medicaid or it's coming out of someone's pocket. Either way, that's $500 or $600 they're not getting. Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Michael, I want to go to you real quick. I know we're running out of time here, but I know you have a word for what's going on in Texas, and I appreciate that. It'd be a good way for us to wrap up. Michael in Florida, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gentlemen, as a parent who lost his first child in a tragic drowning accident, he was actually at the daycare center. My heart certainly goes out to actually everyone, especially including the parents of the Texas victims. But the one thing I'd really like for all of us to remember, and that is this. God makes space for both grief and relief.
SPEAKER 05 :
Michael, thank you so much for calling with that word. Of course, our prayers are to everyone in Texas. And again, as I said, this is a worldwide moment where people are all concerned about what's going on and want to make sure that hopefully there can be more rescues and it's just a tragedy. But you're right. Maybe we can all join together in that moment. It can be a nonpartisan issue. We appreciate, though, you calling, Michael. I appreciate everyone that called in today, our guests today. And we will continue on this week. And I'm going to ask you as we kick off this 35th anniversary of the ACLJ at ACLJ 35, that you consider prayerfully to support the work that we're doing here. Can't do it without you. And of course, your gifts are doubled right now. If you go to ACLJ.org slash 35, scan that QR code if you're watching, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.
