The episode also delves into the geopolitical complexities of the Middle East, with updates from on-the-ground experts about Israel's military strategies in Gaza and the persistent threats posed by Iran. We gain firsthand insights from CBN Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell on the evolving military conflicts impacting the region. Tony Perkins continues to bridge the current events with biblical perspectives, engaging with guests on how to appeal to authority with grounded and effective advocacy, affirming the role of faith in shaping political discourse.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We're talking about the great, big, beautiful bill, you know, that we're trying to get passed. It'll be the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. I think we're going to have it done. I think the Republicans are going to vote for it. And it'll be the most consequential bill, I think, in the history of our country.
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That was President Donald Trump speaking in an interview with Meet the Press over the weekend. Welcome to this May 5th edition of Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Kansas Senator Roger Marshall, a member of the Senate Budget Committee, joins us with the latest developments on the one big beautiful bill from Capitol Hill in just a little bit. A quick word of thanks to Jody Heiss for stepping in last week while I was in Israel. As we were preparing to depart, the Israeli military was preparing for another offensive in Gaza.
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This week, Israel is issuing tens of thousands of call-up orders to reservists in order to strengthen and expand our operations in Gaza. Not to occupy, but to expand the military operation. Why? To increase the pressure on Hamas to release our hostages.
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That was Israeli spokesman David Mincer earlier today. We'll get the latest on the IDF call-ups and Israel's forceful response just hours ago to the Houthi attack on the Ben-Gurion Airport that took place over the weekend. CBN Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell will join us from Jerusalem. And before leaving Israel last Friday night, I sat down at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem with U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee.
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President Trump will have to know he's not kidding. They're not gonna get nuclear weapons. So the question is, do they realize that? Do they risk the control of their regime just for the pride of saying they're gonna push forward with something that they've been told by everyone in the region they're never gonna have?
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That was a discussion regarding Iran. We discussed other issues. I'll share part of that conversation with you later here on Washington Watch. And finally, FRC's vice president for policy, Travis Weber, and Washington Stand editorial director and senior writer, Suzanne Bowdy, will join me for an analysis of some of the claims made on the Sunday news show, like this one from NPR CEO Catherine Marr.
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Our people report straight down the line, and I think that not only do they do that, they do so with a mission that very few other broadcast organizations have, which is a requirement to serve the entire public. That is the point of public broadcasting, is we bring people together in those conversations. NPR, no bias?
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Well, we'll talk about that later on this edition of Washington Watch. All of that and more coming up on this Monday edition. But before we go to our first guest, a quick reminder, this is Monday, and so this week's episode of God and Government is now available. Session 12, How to Make a Godly Appeal to Leaders. Now, in this session, I walk through how to make effective, biblically grounded appeals to those in authority. You can find it exclusively on the Stand Firm app. If you don't have the Stand Firm app, well, text COURSE. That's COURSE to 67742. And I'll send you a link that's the text word COURSE to 67742. Well, during an interview that aired Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press, President Donald Trump expressed his confidence in the Republican Party's ability to pass the big, beautiful bill, which he called the most consequential bill in the history of our country. The president's optimism precedes what will likely be a week of negotiation on that budget reconciliation measure, a version of which currently sits in the U.S. Senate. How might Republicans come to terms and pass the budget? Well, here to discuss this and much more is U.S. Senator Roger Marshall from Kansas, who serves on four Senate committees, including finance and budget committees. Senator Marshall, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Yeah, Tony, it's great to be with you. And I can't wait to get this big, beautiful bill across the finish line for the president.
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Well, let's talk about how's it looking.
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Yeah, well, it's an uphill battle. There's no doubt about it. I want to emphasize, look, President Trump did what he said he was going to do. He secured the border. He's rolling back regulations. Our families are safer. But now it's time for Congress to deliver. I have a lot of confidence in Speaker Mike Johnson, Jody Arrington over there on the Budget Committee, those folks. I think they're doing great work. I think we'll get it done. But there'll be a little bit of hair pulling yet to get it all the way across the finish line.
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All right. Senator Marshall, also want to recognize you are a medical doctor. You have delivered over 5000 babies. So health care is something that's very near and dear to your heart. I want to play a clip that comes from Fox News over the weekend. DNC chair Ken Martin making the claims that Republicans are going after Medicaid and cutting Medicaid and medical funding. Play clip number four, please.
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Donald Trump made a lot of promises to Americans last year, and this budget that he's bringing forward is actually going to increase prices for most hardworking Americans. That's where we're focused on right now. This budget he's bringing forward, which is going to cut Medicaid, all to give a tax break to the richest people in this country and corporations, and not helping hardworking Americans again.
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All right, you're not sitting there on the Sunday shows commenting. You're actually in the trenches doing the work. How do you respond?
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Well, first of all, what's going to happen if we don't get this bill done is your listeners are going to have an increased tax amount to $2,000 to $3,000 per family. That's what's going to happen if we don't make the Trump tax cuts permanent. Let's talk about Medicaid just for a second. Washington DC to save Medicaid to save Medicare. I want to make sure that we're strengthening Medicaid for those that need it the most. You know it's only in Washington DC. Can you increase spending 50 to $100 billion a year on a project on a program like Medicaid and people are still going to call that a cut. So we're going to do everything possible to make sure that we preserve Medicaid for those who need it the most. You know, Tony, that's what the Bible says that we should do, that we should be taking care of those that are the least amongst us. And I want to make sure that Medicaid dollars are going to those who really need the help.
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Let's talk about that for just a moment, Dr. Marshall, because the Biden administration in the last four years expanded Medicaid significantly to those who are younger, able-bodied men who have the ability to work and to acquire insurance. And so I want to underscore something you said there is to save Medicaid. If you expand it to include everything, you'll end up having coverage for no one.
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Yeah, Tony, you nailed it. We have over 90 million people on Medicaid now, over 90 million people. It was meant to be on those who need that help, that need that hand up. It was meant for people, for folks in a nursing home maybe that can't afford nursing home care or folks with a disability. The poorest amongst it was who it was meant for. But we've increased spending on Medicaid 50% in five years. It's on a rocket ship launch right now as far as the amount of money we're spending on it. And to your point, there's probably 7 million healthy men out there of working age that are not working. So that's disappointing. I think that giving people a hand up is important rather than just a handout. I think a job brings dignity. It brings purpose as well. But to be giving young, healthy men Medicaid or food stamps, for that matter, just doesn't make sense to us. And I think it'd be really the best thing for their mental health is to help them get a job. If they don't have the education for that job, then let's help them figure that out as well.
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And it protects those who truly need help from Medicaid because it will be there for them if you do it responsibly. And I think that is what the Trump administration is pursuing. Speaking of using government money wisely when it comes to health care issues, tell us about the No Subsidies for Gender Transition Procedures Act, which you have proposed along with House Member Claudia Tinney.
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right so again this is congress doing its job president trump's already made an executive order that we won't be spending your taxpayer money on this transgender surgeries or transgender hormones believe it or not tony the federal government is spending about 200 million dollars a year on these transgender procedures and i don't have to tell you that there's typically an underlying mental health issue going on with this person and that mental health issue is still going to be there after these surgeries but the big problem to me is that these surgeries are irreversible. One of the things we were taught in medical school, sometimes we have to save patients from themselves. And this would be one of those procedures I think we should be scared of, that they are irreversible, they're going to cause infertility, they're going to cause chronic scarring and pain as well typically one surgery leads to more and more and more so i just don't know how a physician can look a patient in the eye and say this is a good idea and then you know spiritually i think it's a slap in the face of our creator
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And again, when you look at the fact that we have $36 trillion in debt and we want to be able to provide, as you said earlier, we want to help those who truly need help. We're going to be in a position where we can help no one because our economy implodes because of the debt that our government's carrying.
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Yeah, we do have a finite amount of resources. This country is the wealthiest country in the history of the world. We've been so blessed, but we need to be good stewards as well. I think that we have all the money we need to do the right things. But when you're spending a trillion dollars on interest, $1 trillion a year on interest, $1 trillion on Medicaid, $1 trillion on Medicare. All of a sudden, those start adding up to some serious numbers, Tony, but we're $1 trillion of interest every year, and we're spending $2 trillion more than we make each year as well, just adding to that national debt. This is the biggest long-term problem that our country faces is this national debt issue.
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On your bill, No Subsidies for Gender Transition Procedures Act, which would protect minors from these irreversible surgeries and experimental use of drugs, as you pointed out, the president, by executive order, has taken steps on this. But so much of what the president has done by executive order can be undone, and that's why it is important to codify this into law, into the statutes. Do you believe you'll be able to get a vote on this in the U.S. Senate?
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I do. And the great thing with the way we're writing this is we can get it in the reconciliation bill. I know this is deep, deep, deep stuff here. But the reconciliation bill is one of the few things that only takes 50 votes on the Senate to pass something. And we can't get policy in there, but if it has to do with saving money or spending more money, we can typically get this into the bill. So hopefully the parliamentarian will agree with this. It survives that famous birdbath I'm sure you've talked to your listeners about as well. So we're hopeful we'll get a vote on it in the reconciliation bill.
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So what's the time frame in which you'll find out whether or not you'll be able to have this vote on this in the reconciliation?
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I think we're probably a month away. There's probably some other things ahead of this right now for the parliamentarian to decide, but I'm sitting here thinking if the House can get their work done by Memorial Day, get us this bill over here shortly thereafter that maybe the first week or two in June we're going through the birdbath with all the different issues, get the parliamentarian's agreement, and maybe we'll get the president's one big beautiful bill done by July the 4th, another great president. Another great present for President Trump.
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A final question for you, Senator Roger Marshall. I've been talking to the House speaker. He's been on the program discussing the issue of the fiscal cliff where the debt ceiling, we're very close to that. He's concerned that we will get there before July, probably sometime in June. Is there a sense in the Senate that we've got to move quicker on this reconciliation bill, which will include the debt ceiling increase?
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Well, Tony, I would tell you that Congress typically functions better when there is a gun at our head, so to speak. And this is certainly the proverbial gun at our head. I think it'll be a big motivator to help us get something done sooner. And to be honest, I don't know why what's going to look different in July that's going to look in June. So I think we'll use this to our advantage to get something done sooner than later.
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All right, Senator Roger Marshall, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today on Washington Watch. Thank you, Tony. Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas. And by the way, you saw him at the birdbath. That is a named after Robert Byrd, former senator from West Virginia. It was a proceed. It's a procedural method that in this reconciliation, which he described only takes 50 votes, 51 votes in the Senate to pass something as opposed to it bypasses the 60 vote threshold. There's a parliamentarian process that has to go through. It has to be germane, and it has to be to the funding aspect. So it has to either reduce spending or have some connection to spending. It can't be purely policy related. So that's a layman's explanation of the birdbath. All right, don't go away. More Washington Watch. We go to Jerusalem after this.
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At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
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Yet the government of Nigeria has failed to make progress against religiously motivated persecution of Christians despite religious freedom being enshrined as an essential human right in their constitution.
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Tony Perkins called for the United States to send an unmistakable message.
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This is systematic religious violence. Nigeria must be redesignated a country of particular concern. The Biden administration's removal of this designation was a reckless mistake that emboldened the very terrorists who are slaughtering Christians.
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Redesignating Nigeria will enable the U.S. government to pressure Nigerian leaders to protect vulnerable Christians.
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These are not just numbers. These are fathers, their mothers, their children, their families.
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Bishop Wilfred Anagabe risked his life to speak out, sharing firsthand accounts of the danger faced in his church district in central Nigeria.
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We live in fear because at any point it can be our turn to be killed, but to remain silent is to die twice. So I have chosen to speak.
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FRC is calling on President Trump to act now to promote religious freedom around the globe and speak up on behalf of Christians in Nigeria.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Monday. Just hours ago, Israel responded to an attack by the Houthis on the airport in Tel Aviv with about 12 airstrikes on Yemen. Now, the Israeli government also announced today a new plan to expand its ground forces, its ground offensive in Gaza with the ultimate goal of eradicating Hamas. Here with the latest from Jerusalem is Chris Mitchell, the Middle East Bureau Chief at CBN News. Chris, thanks for staying up late and joining us today.
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You're welcome, Tony. Good to be with you. And we were just together just a couple of days ago here in Jerusalem.
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Right. I was there on Friday. So my body's still on the same time clock as yours. But so I feel the lateness of the hour. In fact, just after we flew out of the Ben Gurion airport a day later, this missile ballistic missile from Yemen hits the airport quite significant.
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Yeah, it was, Tony, and I went down there just a few hours after it hit. It was about three or four football fields away from the main terminal, so a very significant missile attack, but it could have been far worse if it went just a little further. What happened apparently was that one of the interceptors by the Iron Dome failed, so it was able to get through. In the past several weeks, Israel has shot down 26 of the 27 ballistic missiles that Yemen has fired. But this one did get through. And then you see the response earlier tonight by the IDF in hitting Hodeidah, which is their main port down there in Yemen. And also, as you mentioned, a huge significant change in strategy by the IDF. They're no longer going to have sort of these special operations where they take over land, but then they end Gaza, but then they leave it. They've called up maybe 60,000, maybe I've heard as many as 100,000 reservists to go back into Gaza and take over territory and keep it.
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Yeah, I was talking with an IDF officer earlier today that was headed north into Syria to relieve some of the full-time forces that are, I think, going back down, more of the seasoned troops going to Gaza. So there is, it appears to be, a very strong action afoot on behalf of Israel to create maximum pressure to force the release of the remaining hostages.
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Yeah, that's right. The two main goals, first of all, to destroy Hamas as a military force and also put the pressure on Hamas to release those hostages. It does carry risks. The IDF chief of staff did, as he presented this proposal to the security cabinet, said it could mean the loss of some of the lives of the hostages. But right now that's where they believe they need to go and to really, really bring an end to this war eventually by taking Hamas's advantages away and trying to take the territory that Hamas has been trying to keep. And also they have a plan, Tony, to make sure that the humanitarian aid that goes into Gaza will not be stolen anymore by Hamas, but also a plan so they could secure a security perimeter around the distribution of the humanitarian aid, but make sure that it gets directly to the people in need.
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Yeah, I do want to quote Hamas on that. Hamas decried Israel's effort to control distribution of humanitarian aid, according to the AP, in Gaza as a quote-unquote violation of international law. Of course, Hamas being an expert on international law, I'm sure. I want to go back to the Houthis for just a moment because we've seen several airstrikes on the Houthis, and they've been very aggressive in their missile strikes on Israel. So first off, first question is, how is it that after these multiple retaliatory strikes by Israel, are the Houthis still operating? Even the United States has hit them. How is it they're still doing this? And number two, we must remember they're a proxy for Iran. This is only going to be eliminated, I believe, when the threat from Iran is eliminated.
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Yeah. First of all, the reason why they seem to be able to continue to fire ballistic missiles, it's a great question. A lot of people are wondering how can after several weeks of a U.S. bombing campaign and the Israeli campaign that has been going on even before the U.S. campaign, How can they do that? Well, the explanation that I've heard is that for years they've been hiding these mobile launchers throughout the desert. And so they've been able to pull these out when they can and fire them. And also I've been told that they're doing it in daytime. They had been doing it at night, which gives even more distress to people here in Israel running to the bomb shelter in the middle of the night. But because the heat signature is so good at night, they do it at the day, which gives the US and Israel their surveillance systems a little harder to track them. But the other point is exactly what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a few weeks ago President Trump said. It's really Iran which is the mastermind in supplying these ICBMs to the Houthis. They're the ones that are really controlling by policy, by their arms. And so The other thing that Prime Minister Netanyahu said yesterday, they're going to make sure that they hit Iran as well because of these strikes against Israel, and particularly the one at the airport.
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What do you think is the timeframe of this new plan in Gaza in terms of, it sounds like this is much more aggressive than we've seen in the past. It's almost as if they want to finish this off.
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Yeah, I understand, Tony, that it's going to be done in stages. Also, it may begin in earnest after President Trump comes here next week when he visits Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia. But it will go in stages. But I've been told it's going to be vast, it's going to be decisive. It will take time, though, to get up to its maximum. effect against Hamas. By the way, they already control about 30 percent of the Gaza Strip, and they have done a lot of infrastructure to make sure that this plan goes into effect. So it seems like they do want to bring an end to this and try through this campaign to bring the hostages home as well.
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Are we seeing any of the Palestinians departing the Gaza Strip? Are they still being blocked from leaving?
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I think they're still being blocked by leaving by Egypt. And a lot of people have been saying for a long time, you know, in a war zone, usually people have a freedom or they can try to escape. But right now, since October 7th and the war began, most of these Palestinians are unable to leave. They've really been sort of human shields and leverage as well by Hamas against the IDF and their campaign.
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Yeah, it's Hamas's pawns. They don't want to lose them. And so they're working, I think, in concert with the surrounding nations to keep them from leaving. Chris Mitchell, always great to see you again. Thank you. I know it's late there in Israel. So thanks for staying up late to join us here on Washington Watch.
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Thanks, Tony. Great to be with you.
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Always great to see you. Chris Mitchell, CBN in Jerusalem. Be praying for the peace of Jerusalem and pray for Chris and his team over there that they remain safe. All right. Don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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Everything we do begins as an idea. Before there can be acts of courage, there must be the belief that some things are worth sacrificing for. Before there can be marriage, there is the idea that man should not be alone. Before there was freedom, there was the idea that individuals are created equal. It's true that all ideas have consequences, but we're less aware that all consequences are the fruit of ideas. Before there was murder, there was hate. Before there was a Holocaust, there was the belief by some people that other people are undesirable. Our beliefs determine our behavior, and our beliefs about life's biggest questions determine our worldview. Where did I come from? Who decides what is right and wrong? What happens when I die? Our answers to these questions explain why people see the world so differently. Debates about abortion are really disagreements about where life gets its value. Debates over sexuality and gender and marriage are really disagreements about whether the rules are made by us or for us. What we think of as political debates are often much more than that. They're disagreements about the purpose of our lives and the source of truth. As Christians, our goal must be to think biblically about everything. Our goal is to help you see beyond red and blue, left and right, to see the battle of ideas at the root of it all. Our goal is to equip Christians with a biblical worldview and help them advance and defend the faith in their families, communities, and the public square. Cultural renewal doesn't begin with campaigns and elections. It begins with individuals turning from lies to truth. but that won't happen if people can't recognize a lie and don't believe truth exists. We want to help you see the spiritual war behind the political war, the truth claims behind the press release, and the forest from the trees.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for being with us. By the way, if you are in our journey through the Bible, we're in the book of Daniel, and we have a study guide available, the book of Daniel, and you can get a copy. Simply text the word Daniel to 67742. That's Daniel to 67742. Visions and Valor. It's a great study of the book of Daniel. All right, as I mentioned earlier, I was in Israel last week. I appreciate Jody filling in for me. We were there big week for Israel. It was their Memorial Day, followed by their 77th anniversary of their independence. We were able to partake in those celebrations and remembrance ceremonies. And while I was there, I was able to visit with the delegation I was leading. We visited with the new ambassador to Israel from the U.S., our good friend Mike Huckabee. And before I left, I went back to the embassy on Friday and sat down, and we did an interview that aired this past weekend on This Week on Capitol Hill. It's my weekend program that I do with House Speaker Mike Johnson. We talked about Israel from a historical and spiritual viewpoint, and we talked about the changes in the Middle East and how things have turned around in the past year. And I wanted to share part of that interview with you, and here... is part of that interview with Ambassador Mike Huckabee. So we were talking about Iran. We're talking about Syria. Big change there, although that's we see Turkey's hand in there. And I'm not so sure they're extremely friendly toward Israel. Let's talk Iran. The president, his administration involved in negotiations there. Is there going to be an agreement that we reach with Iran? I mean, are they reasonable people?
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No, they're not. To be blunt, they never have been. 46 years they've been under the rule of the Ayatollahs and they've been very adamant that their goal is to destroy Israel and then destroy the United States. When they said something like that for 46 years, they put two different plots trying to assassinate President Trump. We're looking at a nation that has a long history of doing everything that it says it's going to do. Now, are they at a point where They've been downgraded in their military capacity because of the Israeli strikes that happened last year. We don't know. So the honest answer when people say, do you have any hope that this will result in some type of negotiated peace settlement with the Iranian government? All I can do is say, I hope so, because I'd rather see that than war. But if I'm looking at 46 years of their rule, I'm not overly optimistic that they're just eager to sit down and that they would make a deal, and if they made it, would they keep it? But let's hope and pray that they do. There is a lot at stake if something doesn't happen. The president has been adamant that they're not gonna get nuclear weapons. They're adamant they are. That's a stalemate. At some point, and I think I know President Trump will have to know, He's not kidding. They're not going to get nuclear weapons. So the question is, do they realize that? Do they risk the control of their regime just for the pride of saying they're going to push forward with something that they've been told by everyone in the region they're never going to have? And quite frankly, even their Muslim neighbors don't want them to have a nuclear weapon any more than you would want a 16-year-old boy to have keys to a Lamborghini and a bottle of whiskey. You just don't give irresponsible people things that they can't be responsible with.
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In part, that was some of the genesis for the Abraham Accords, a unified front against the threat to Iran. And there's one thing that's a little different about Iran than other Islamic countries or organizations that we're dealing with, like Hamas, is that the regime does not fully represent the people.
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No, they don't. In 2009, there was almost a change of government. People were rising up. It was the green movement. President Obama, in his memoir, admitted that one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency was not providing at least, not military support. Nobody suggested that that was appropriate. But if he could have just said, We support the people who are seeking to be free and to unshackle themselves from this totalitarian government. It might have been a tipping point. Instead, he was totally silent, even as the young lady was murdered in the street and the blood running out of her head. That picture kind of showed the end of the Green Movement. Is that the best way forward for Iran? To be free of a regime like that? Well, it's a decision their people have to make. But if you look back, the Persian culture is a magnificent one. The Iran before the Ayatollahs was one of the most educated places on Earth. Aligned with the United States. Incredibly aligned with the United States. But even if we weren't, what they represented was a very modern culture. delightful culture. They were focused on education and advancement in science and innovation. It was one of the really centerpieces of the earth and certainly in the Middle East to see it tragically taken by the Ayatollahs and virtually destroyed the antiquities, the culture. It's one of the great tragedies of the last 200 years.
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Ambassador, we're just about out of time. We're up against a break. I want to circle back to our earlier conversation in the last segment about the spiritual understanding of Israel and what is happening in this region of the world. Speaking to evangelicals who are the primary audience of this program back in the United States, how should they be praying?
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Well, the Bible says, pray for the peace of Jerusalem. So it sounds right. Even more so that you're here in Jerusalem. Especially now, especially now. But I think what they need to do is become informed. I'm really concerned, Tony, that we're seeing a lot of evangelicals in the States who sort of act like, well, Israel doesn't even matter. It's not even important to us. And I want them to better understand that not only does it matter, but why does it matter? And if evangelicals educate themselves first in the Scripture, that's key, and then in understanding this land, its people, and what they're up against, I think we will see a resurgence of evangelical support for the state of Israel. Well, I pray that you are right, and that's why we're here this week. Ambassador Mike Huckabee, thank you for joining us. Thank you, Tony. Always great to see you, my friend.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for being with us on this Monday. All right. You can, by the way, you can watch the rest of the interview with Ambassador Huckabee on my YouTube channel. It's Tony Perkins on YouTube if you want to check out the rest of that interview as we sit down with Ambassador Huckabee. And I would encourage you to be praying for him as well. Very key role there in Israel as that deals with a lot of the issues in the Middle East. All right, our word for today comes from Daniel 6, verse 3. Then this Daniel became distinguished above all the other high officials and satraps because an excellent spirit was in him, and the king planned to set him over the whole kingdom. Well, and that didn't set well with the others. David stood out not because of his position but because of his spirit. He served with integrity, humility, and excellence. That kind of character still gets noticed not only by kings but by the king of kings. The Apostle Paul echoed this in his letter to the Ephesians. He said, Wherever you work and whoever you work for, remember this, God sees, God rewards. And His benefits package, well, it's truly out of this world. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Well, as we wrap up today's program, I want to try something a little bit different. We're going to bring in two of our own experts here at the Family Research Council to discuss some of the topics that came up yesterday on the Sunday shows. Joining me now for this expert panel discussion is Travis Weber, Vice President for Policy and Government Affairs here at the Family Research Council, and Suzanne Bowdy, Editorial Director and Senior Writer at the Washington Stan. Travis and Suzanne, thanks for joining me.
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Thank you. Thanks, Tony. All right.
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So we're going to take a look at some of these clips. I'm going to get your response to them because a lot of issues discussed over the weekend. And I think it's important that we dissect some of these statements and analyze them both on both sides, because. There's a lot of political spin put on the issue. So let's first take a look at CNN's State of the Union program from Sunday. Democrat Senator Mark Warner suggested a plan for standing up to Iran. Let's play that clip.
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The best thing we could do to stand up against Iran would be for Israel to end the conflict in Gaza, get the hostages back, because starting to rebuild and giving the Palestinians some hope for life would allow Saudi Arabia and other nations in the region to, frankly, recognize Israel and then put an even more united front against Iran.
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You know, Travis, that sounds like more of the same. You were with me in Israel last week. We spoke to members of the IDF. We were at Memorial Day services. How would pacifying Hamas walking away from Gaza affect Iran in terms of its hostility toward Israel?
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Yeah, I mean, Tony, when I hear that clip, my question for him is how exactly is he proposing we stand up against Iran by appeasing and rolling over and giving Hamas, who is aligned with Iran in its ultimate goal of eliminating the Jewish people in the state of Israel. So what the senator is saying there is let's sort of ease up the gas on Hamas here and so that we can direct our attention to Iran. It's kind of like saying I'm fighting one army, but let's just like ignore this one part over here so we can just all turn our attention to the other part as if Hamas is going to join in that effort. Hamas is not interested in helping Israel against Iran. They're aligned with Iran against Israel. So we need some clarity on the reality of what's happening in the region, of the alignments in the region. And I would say provide a different prescription, Tony. I think a better prescription is to first step back and ascertain the proper perspective of the region, get clarity of what's actually happening, which is Hamas, Iran, Turkey, and others in the region really are all aligned in their anti-Israel, anti-Jewish animus, then proceed to describe the prescription for how to help Israel best stand in the midst of a hostile sea of neighbors.
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Suzanne, I want to go to you on that issue of the Middle East. The Middle East understands power. I think we saw very clearly during the four years of the Biden administration what appeasement gets us. It gets us a world on fire. That seems to be what Senator Warner is proposing.
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Absolutely. And I have to believe that Iran and the Houthis, Gaza, Hamas are all very concerned about a Trump administration that's not going to sit back and just take these bombings, just take this hostage situation. They're going to take it very seriously. And so in this instance, I think Warner's very misled on what he's proposing here, as Travis says.
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Let's change channels. Let's go to CBS's Face the Nation. Senator Tammy Duckworth was laser focused on the Trump administration's nominee for U.N. ambassador. Mike Waltz, play the clip of Duckworth. Senator Duckworth, please.
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He's not qualified for the job just by nature of the fact that he participated in this signal chain. In fact, I think everybody on that signal chain needs to be fired because not a single one of them spoke up and said, hey, this is inappropriate. We should be in a secure channel.
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All right. I'll throw this out to you first, Suzanne, because you've been writing on this. I think Mike Walsh, who is a friend, who I think is actually one of the best equipped in the White House to handle the issues in the Middle East, I think he was maybe too aggressive for some. And I think there was a lot of backbiting, what I hear in the White House. I think appointing him or nominating him for ambassador to the UN, given the issues surrounding his departure, is going to make confirmation very difficult. Am I right?
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I think you are right. I think the Democrats are salivating at this opportunity to take down a member of the Trump team who, in my estimation, we don't know all the details about Signalgate, but Mike Walz is so qualified for any position he holds that deals with national security. He has four Bronze Stars. He's served in the Special Forces. He's been on the House Armed Services Committee. He's worked in the Bush administration. So this is a very convenient controversy for the left. I think that they're just looking for a way to describe the administration as sloppy or amateur or just unprepared for the tasks at hand. And this is a great opportunity for them to shift the messaging, discredit the Trump administration. But Mike Waltz, as a person in the administration, has been solid. And he will continue to be solid if he is able to be confirmed, which will be a tall order for him in the Senate as it's constructed now.
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Travis, what do we know about the internal jockeying, so to speak? We have those who are, you know, isolationist that are a part of this kind of new conservative wing of the party. Mike Waltz not fitting into that category. I wouldn't call him a, you know, a war, a hawk necessarily. He's one that's been on this program many, many times because he is well versed in foreign policy and military issues, security issues. But is this a sign, a troubling sign of things to come of the power and influence of the isolationist wing that has the ear of the president?
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Tony, I do think we need to ask where this is coming from. And as you're noting, those who just do not like Mike Waltz's views on how to conduct our foreign policy regionally and otherwise, they would be looking for an opportunity like this, right? And as Suzanne said, it's very convenient for the Democrats. So my appeal to the administration would be, what does this set you up for? Do not think it's a good situation right now because they're kind of, so to speak, putting out to the Democrats for them to try to take down Waltz here. And meanwhile, You know, what are they left with in terms of advice to conduct foreign policy? You need a multitude of counselors. You need counselors who are prepared to face our enemies, take them on, as Trump did when he ordered the strike against the Iranian general during the first administration, right? That was an appropriate response to aggression. That is the language that we're speaking today. They're speaking with some of these adversaries. And so in light of all that, you know, looking at what's happening, Tony, as you say, the jockeying, the current state of jockeying is not really good to set the president up to lead with force in a hostile world when you need clarity. on what's happening. You need moral clarity and the ability to speak that consistently to your adversaries in a way that they can understand. So, Tony, as you said, we need advisors around the president. We as Americans should want advisors around the president that he can trust and hear from. knowing he cannot personally keep up with every situation that's happening globally. That's why you need experts. And so Mike Waltz is certainly one of those on the Middle East, on our military activities globally. And so from that perspective, we should ask, well, who's going to fill that gap now? Where are we going to get that advice in the foreign policy apparatus for the president and what he needs to do globally?
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And if I could just step in there, one of the names that's been floated today is Stephen Miller, who is currently serving as a White House chief of domestic policy. So what you're really seeing in the Trump administration is a shrinking of the circle of trust. So you have fewer voices speaking into the president, some of whom I don't know what Stephen Miller's background is that equips him to be national security advisor. But it really is a troubling sign for the administration, I think, to just so closely shrink who has access to the president on these important issues.
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And Suzanne, you're talking about someone who's been focused on the border a lot. The border is a national security issue, but there are other national security issues. Tony, part of what we've seen at our border is people flooding in from not just Mexico and South America, but around the world. So we need to be ascertaining this with a global perspective. And you need to understand what's happening globally, not just in the immigration system or other select matters closer to home.
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And I would say it's a little disingenuous, too, for the Trump administration to say this is a promotion when, in fact, we don't know what's going on behind closed doors. And it could very well be something else entirely.
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Well, you don't remove somebody from a position to promote them to another one. They would stay in that position until confirmed for the other one. All right. Let me move on. Fox News. We saw Fox News Sunday. We actually saw DNC Chair Ken Martin venture across the aisle talking about Medicaid cuts. Play the clip of Martin, please.
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Donald Trump made a lot of promises to Americans last year, and this budget that he's bringing forward is actually going to increase prices for most hardworking Americans. That's where we're focused on right now. This budget he's bringing forward, which is going to cut Medicaid, all to give a tax break to the richest people in this country and corporations, and not helping hardworking Americans again.
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All right. Here we go again. Same same same same line that Republicans are going to be cutting Medicaid. No discussion about the fact that the Biden administration expanded it by about 50 percent to able bodied men that could easily work and have their own health care coverage. This what the Republicans are looking at, waste, fraud and abuse to salvage and save the program.
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right and i think one of the things that should debunk that claim right off the bat are the lawsuits taking place in swing states where where democrats have tried to put up billboards saying you know the republicans are going to cut grandma's health care they're going to eliminate medicaid there aren't going to be any entitlement programs you won't have benefits and in fact when republicans even threaten the democrats with defamation lawsuits they backed off they are clearly lying They have no answer for the Trump agenda or for the Republicans who want to cut waste, fraud and abuse. We've seen illegal immigrants on the rolls for Medicaid. We've seen, as you said, able-bodied people. You were talking with Dr. Marshall earlier. There are some estimates that in blue states, as many as 40 percent of households are on Medicaid, which is astronomical. We cannot continue to fund something or it will be extinct. We just can't afford this anymore.
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OK, I want to move one more weekend interview with NPR's president and CEO, Catherine Moore. She joined Paula Kerger for this conversation. Let's play the clip of Catherine Moore.
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Our people report straight down the line, and I think that not only do they do that, they do so with a mission that very few other broadcast organizations have, which is a requirement to serve the entire public. That is the point of public broadcasting, is we bring people together in those conversations. JOHN YANG Straight down the line? What line is that?
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Well, you don't have to take it from us that NPR is biased. You can take it from NPR's own staff. Since Uri Berliner, a whistleblower, published a very lengthy expose in the Free Press last year talking about how absolutely convoluted and biased their agenda was, not just in reporting since COVID, but just in the last several years. They only serve a niche audience, and yet they're getting millions and millions of taxpayer dollars. So it's a wild suggestion that they are right down the middle.
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President Trump, though, taking action to eliminate the funding for public broadcasting.
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Right. And I think that they should be very concerned because this is something he can do through the rescission process, which only requires a simple majority in the Senate. So she has a good reason to be concerned because Trump and the Senate Republicans will take action on this. And very likely the Corporation for Public Broadcasting will take a huge hit.
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What happens? I mean, how much of their funding comes from government sources? I mean, will they be able to survive?
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They could if they had, I assume, private influx of dollars, but good luck getting enough to fund it when you're only serving 11% of the American population, which is roughly the niche that they're getting right now in terms of listenership.
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We saw this with Planned Parenthood when the federal government began to withdraw funds for them. They raised the money. They had plenty of money, a billion-dollar operation. I mean, look, if NPR provides a service to those 11 percent, and they happen to be the liberal left, the wealthy, hey, let them fund it. But it – I think it makes our government more fiscally responsible. I personally don't think that they'll find the funding they need to continue operating as they do.
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And that wouldn't be a tragedy. I don't think we ever need for the government to provide us with entertainment or news. It comes across as state-funded propaganda. So leave that to the people who are reporting for a living, who can be unbiased, and take the taxpayers out of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
But what about Big Bird? We might miss Big Bird, right? All right, Suzanne Bounty, Travis Weber, thanks so much for joining us. I've got to go catch those reruns of Sesame Street. All right, folks, thank you for joining us as well. You can find out more about the broadcast, go to TonyPerkins.com. Better yet, download the Stand Firm app, and you'll have Washington Watch at your fingertips, along with the Washington Stand, our news feed, which is brought to you not by taxpayer dollars, but by folks like you. Until next time, I leave you once again with the encouraging words the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In today's episode, we navigate the complex legal waters surrounding Letitia James' latest lawsuit against the Trump administration. With a focus on the potential cuts to federal programs, we discuss how such legal maneuvers play into broader political strategies and what they mean for various stakeholders. Our discussion includes a critical examination of the legal processes at play and the challenges faced by state attorneys general as they attempt to preemptively block budget cuts. Expert guests join us to offer their perspectives on both the strategic game plan behind these lawsuits and their real-world implications on social programs and the public perception of justice. Listeners are also invited to engage with the topic of immigration and reform, particularly in light of recent comments by prominent political figures. We explore the broader context and ramifications for U.S. policy, touching on the delicate balance between maintaining national security and upholding humanitarian values.
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On today's show, Letitia James threatens new lawsuit against the Trump administration.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Will, it's Monday. Somehow we're back. We've done it. We've returned. Another Monday. We haven't been thrown off yet. But here we are as things are getting cut nationwide. We do have an update from one of your favorites. And that, of course, is Letitia James. As she has decided, I don't know, maybe it's time for a new podcast. against the Trump administration. And this one is almost theoretical.
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That's right. And we're going to get into the details of what she's even saying in the next segment with Professor Hutchison. But if you'll remember, just a few weeks ago, there was that criminal referral to the Department of Justice over potential mortgage fraud and other crimes that were allegedly committed by Letitia James. And you'd think maybe is the time to be quiet. You know, I've got my own legal issues. No, she's doubling down or tripling down with announcing this new lawsuit. Yeah. where she is teaming up with other attorneys general nationwide, and they are going to go after some of this funding that is being reportedly under consideration of cuts under the budget proposals and things of that nature.
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She picked some things in this that I think that some people will go, okay, if they are cutting some of these programs, maybe she picked some that are a little bit more, bipartisan if you will sure they're not like just you know Planned Parenthood she's talking about Meals on Wheels and a few of these that most people go yeah that's probably good that we're funding those things it's probably not a bad thing helping people helping the homeless help people that need food but again none of these have happened yet and it's just to get your name in the lights and it's just to again if you're trending you might as well continue that story so if you're trending a few weeks ago even the bad how can you flip it and that's the way to do it
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That's right. And what she is saying is that this lawsuit will be trying to block anticipated cuts. These aren't things that have been cut yet. As far as the Head Start program was one of the ones that was mentioned, that's a preschool program, federally funded, and it is currently still in the House budget. There have been some officials that have maybe said restructure it or change the funding nature of that. But that doesn't mean that it has happened yet. And typically, in a normal American legal system world, you've got to wait for there to be the damage, not just the anticipation of this happening, but the actual damage before you start suing to stop something.
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Yeah, well, let's hear from her. So you let her give her her spiel, if you will. Give her her time. Here you go. Here is Letitia James. This is just the day before yesterday.
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The White House is threatening our way of life. They want to cut Meals on Wheels. They want to cut funds to firefighters. Why? Because they want to cut funds for housing. And the list goes on and on and on. All of these funds and more, we've got to stand up. And that's why Democratic attorneys general will be joining me in filing this lawsuit.
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Look, this is a moment where you have Letitia James and other attorneys general filing a lawsuit against the Trump administration, and it is for possible cuts. And look, again, like I said, there are some of these cuts that we all agree on. There are some we're not going to agree on. When you go through the list of what she's talking about, I don't know the background of a lot of these organizations. I don't really know. know if they're all on the up and up and what they're doing or if they deserve the funding that they're getting but it does on paper sound like things that most people would like head start meals on wheels the world trade center health care program for 9 11 first responders these don't feel like programs that on paper name wise are the ones you want to see cut but they are specific specified for a reason and that's to get this kind of attention what do you think 1-800-684-3110 it is a little harder when president trump said hey we got to reopen alcatraz But then on the other hand, to say, let's cut meals on wheels, how do you conflate those two? 1-800-684-3110. It's going to be a packed show today, by the way. We have CeCe Heil joining us. We've got Harry Hutchinson joining us. We've got Rick Grinnell joining us. It is going to be packed. We're going to get to your comments as well, the most important voice in the room, at 1-800-684-3110. And we have three trials happening this month. We're going to tell you how you can support the work of the ACLJ and keep us in the fight. And join us in that fight. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. Like I said, phone lines are open for you. I know a lot of you watch on YouTube and you've had this same glitch that's been going on for the last couple of weeks and we are working to figure out what is happening. So if you're watching us on YouTube right now, I encourage you hit that thumbs up. Because that helps us get back in the feeds of the people that we lost. It's unfortunate when that happens, but occasionally it does. So if you could, hit that thumbs up and that subscribe button if you haven't already. Just tell YouTube you're watching and you're engaged. Because this is how hundreds of thousands of you watch each and every day. Nearly 480,000 of you have subscribed to our YouTube channel. We couldn't thank you enough for that. Letitia James back in the news. We're going to give a bit of a reset of what was going on as she plans with a bunch of other attorney generals to sue the Trump administration this time over healthcare funding cuts that are currently not cut. We're talking about cuts that are allegedly going to happen. Now they could happen. These are ones that have been discussed. But this is another way for them to get back in the news and get the attention on them to try to rally people together. Because, look, midterms are coming up faster than you can imagine. They're going to want to have something to run on. They're going to want to have something for the Trump administration to take some heat on. Harry Hutchin joined us in studio. But, Will, you give a little reset and then kick it over to Harry.
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That's right. So this is comes from a speech on Saturday where the attorney general of New York was saying that she is going to be joined by other states attorneys general to sue specifically Department of Health and Human Services to block the cutting of certain funds for certain programs. Now, a lot of this is theoretical at this point. They're talking about things like the Head Start program, funding that could go to Meals on Wheels. She says it directly, Meals on Wheels, but a lot of times these are through assistance programs and things of that nature. So not even a direct funding to that. But the biggest problem here. Professor Hutchison, is that all of these seem to be theoretical cuts that she's targeting at this point. This isn't something that the Head Start program's budget hasn't been slashed. As a matter of fact, currently it is still in the reconciliation bill that they're putting together. So it's not even like she could point to the fact that it's already been stripped from this reconciliation bill. Now, there have been talks of reallocating, reshifting the way that a lot of these programs are run because many of these programs haven't been run efficiently. But regardless, as Logan pointed out, these seem on paper, at least without any sort of deep research into it, does seem to be programs that could be bipartisan in the way that they are presented, that she is stopping the government from cutting funding to. However, there's a big caveat here. This lawsuit is trying to stop preemptively the cutting of funds before it's even been put into a bill. It's even been done through executive order. This is a pure preemptive lawsuit that the attorney general is trying to with other states attorneys general to do here. And that's not normally how the legal process works in the United States. Your analysis is spot on.
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And I think it's clear beyond question that Attorney General Letitia James, as is her pattern and practice, is attempting to create litigation de novo. That is out of nothing, out of thin air. And there is a legal doctrine called ripeness that prevents the litigation that she is talking about. Now, having said that, it's important to keep in mind that there are district court judges, federal district court judges, that are probably willing to overlook a legal doctrine such as the doctrine of ripeness. Now, what is ripeness? Basically, it says you cannot bring a lawsuit until the facts are quote-unquote ripe, meaning that there is an actual case or controversy for the court to decide. And so if Health and Human Services is proposing a cut, that does not give rise to litigation, except in the imagination of Attorney General Letitia James and her compatriots.
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Now, if the cuts do go through and it is something that they do present, what is the legal recourse there? Then there is a pathway for them to do this, not when it's preemptive, but when there's actually a plan going ahead. Let's say that these, because look, these are not, So with all of the Trump cuts that have happened, it's not like this is shocking that there's a few organizations there that would be listed in this. So what is even their recourse? I'm just curious for, I guess, the right way to do it if these cuts were to go in place.
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Number one, if the cuts occur basically because there is a bill that passes Congress signed by the president, then those cuts are indeed constitutional unless there's some constitutional principle that has been invalidated by the law. which is very unlikely because the Constitution gives spending power to Congress. And so if Congress passes a law signed by the President of the United States, in general, it's going to be enforceable unless you can find some form of discrimination or some other basis for invalidating.
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They're making the decision on where things go. No one is guaranteed this money.
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Precisely. And the president and Congress were elected to do what? To enact policy. And it's not up to state attorneys generals to define what is possible with respect to spending by the Health and Human Services Department.
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I did want to say real quick, it is hard to say attorneys general. But I do want to make sure everyone knows that's what you're supposed to say. Yeah, it messes with your head. I'm just letting you know this, audience, because it sounds like we have a flub every few minutes right now. Right. That's what they say. Attorneys General.
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It is Attorneys General. Yeah. Who made that decision? Mr. Webster? Old English. Yeah, Mr. Webster. I like that. That's a good call there. But Professor Hutchison, the other angle to this is when the state's attorneys general bring lawsuits of this kind, what we've seen in this environment is we've seen going to a district judge, who then sometimes puts out something called a nationwide injunction. And that's the very thing that the ACLJ is fighting at the Supreme Court right now with our representation of the state of West Virginia. So that is something that we are very involved in. But as that is heard and looked at by the Supreme Court, There is that feeling that you could see a district court judge issue a nationwide injunction on a novel situation like this, blocking any cuts from the Department of Health and Human Services while their lawsuit plays out, which there's no harm yet. So I don't know how the lawsuit could play out in that situation, but it almost feels like they know that this is the time to try a move like this.
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I think you're correct, and I think that's a brilliant question. So it's important for listeners to note that two-thirds of the nationwide injunctions issued in the history of the United States apparently have been issued against the Trump administration. So the ACLJ's work in going after these nationwide injunctions is very, very important. According to a Harvard Law Review study, which was published last year, at least more than half of the injunctions issued between 2018 and 2023 were issued against the Trump administration. That doesn't include all of the injunctions, nationwide injunctions, that have been issued this year. So one of the reasons why Attorney General Letitia James is attempting to go after the Trump administration is the judges have incentivized action which is contrary to both the Constitution and to prevailing law.
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If you have a question or comment related to this topic, we will be taking them towards the end of the show. You can get in line right now. There's four lines open, 1-800-684-3110. A lot of you are watching right now. And when we get back, not only will we continue this discussion, but CeCe Heil is going to be joining us. We're going to talk about the ACLJ having three trials set for this month on vital cases. And ones that you've been following, ones that we've all been involved in for many years now. So we're going to break all of those down today. When we get back, as the ACLJ, we'll continue to fight also for Christians around the globe. It is a tough time for a lot of our friends outside of America. Sure, there is persecution happening. I say lowercase p, persecution happening in America. But there is some really bad uppercase P persecution happening that I don't like to get into the details on on the show, but you know about it. And the ACLJ is getting involved in many different ways. We're going to talk about that with CC as well and how people can respond and interact with these kind of heartbreaking topics that are happening, as well as... some of these trials that are really to protect the life of the unborn and protect those, honestly, to protect free speech as well, that you're able to share your point of view and your opinion on controversial topics, on topics that sometimes are uncomfortable to speak about. Be a part of that conversation and support the work of the ACLJ. We're fighting in court, but we need you to take action. We also need you to pray for us. I encourage you to do that. You can get the ACLJ prayer guide for free on our website. Of course, you can sign in petitions at ACLJ.org slash sign, and you can make a financial donation if you can. But again, there's a lot of different ways you can interact with us. A lot of you right now are on YouTube or on Rumble. If you're brand new to us, by the way, and you've never seen us before, or you haven't hit that subscribe button, That's a great free way to get this kind of message into more people's hands, more people's eyes. So right now, I encourage you to do that. Let's cross that 480,000 mark on YouTube. It would mean a lot to us as we zero in on 500,000 on just YouTube alone. It's really amazing. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. CeCe Hiles joining us in studio today because we have the month of May is going to be packed for the ACLJ legal team. I know it's packed for a lot of you, maybe a lot of your parents. You got to run around to school a lot in the month of May, field days, all of those things happening. We'll take that and add on three trials that the ACLJ is going to be in in just this month and all in support of the unborn or your right to speak out on controversial topics, including for the rights of the unborn and potential for mothers who are looking for other options than abortion. Of course, we've been doing this in Massachusetts now for the better part of this year. And we are getting involved in a lot of different instances. We're going to go through all three of these. I think it's important for all of you who are listening and watching right now. We'll obviously still talk about the breaking news. We'll talk about Letitia James a little later. We're going to have on Rick Grinnell. We'll go back to news and politics and all that. But the ACLJ team, hard at action right now in the month of May.
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Yeah, so this week we have our hearing on the motion to dismiss in the Massachusetts case. And just to remind our listeners, or if this is the first time you're listening, Massachusetts has launched a campaign, basically a smear campaign against... pregnancy resource centers and they're basically the government of Massachusetts and so they're basically punishing and silencing a viewpoint that they don't prefer that they don't like and so we are representing and going after those laws we've actually launched a media campaign also to counteract that campaign. But this week on May 8th, we have the hearing on the motion to dismiss because the other side has filed a motion to dismiss, dismiss this case. And we will be arguing that case that the case go on and that we get to discovery um in massachusetts so prayers are needed for that for sure uh our attorney olivia summers will be arguing that motion to dismiss case and that's on may 8th and then we have an actual trial that is going on this week as well for another pro-life protester in ohio that we are defending And that is a case where he was cited and arrested under a noise violation. And that's a case where basically they just did selective prosecution. They didn't go after other people for noise violations. And that one is actually a full blown trial that we will be having this week. So again, your prayers are coveted for that trial as well. And then lastly, we are filing a preliminary injunction in our illinois pro-life protester case and this is the case that was very interesting because literally we were on the air when we got a call from someone saying we are potentially being arrested right now and our attorneys were able to go into action at that very moment actually get on the phone with the arresting officers explained that they could not arrest our clients there we were able to stop that but we're trying to address now the actual ordinance and what's the problem of this and so we have filed with the city they have not responded so we've actually filed again in federal court a preliminary injunction so we have the three very important pro-life cases this is not the entirety of all of our pro-life cases but these are the three that are happening this week right now
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and as you said, CeCe, there are three big items this week. Plus, as far as that trial situation, we have two other trials this month. So the ACLJ team is very busy. And you may also think, okay, we've got these individual trials and individual things. How does that really affect me? I almost look at the ACLJ legal team sometimes as almost like firefighters, is that these little fires are popping up that affect an individual or an organization in individual areas. But when you see how broad this is, and that it can happen in states that are left-leaning or more conservative, where they are trying to use the force of government and law enforcement to silence Christian speech, pro-life speech, and in many cases, trying to criminalize that speech. And you also look at what is happening in Massachusetts, where they are trying to run this campaign saying that pro-life pregnancy resource centers are fraudsters, they are giving out misinformation, etc. They're trying to shut that down any way they can. So why is it important that we get involved in these campaigns? broad issues with individuals or with organizations or filing a lawsuit in Massachusetts. Because if we don't rush to the scene of the fire, that fire will spread and it will get out of control. And it'll affect every single person watching this broadcast. If you're a person of faith, if you're a pro-life, if you're conservative, if we don't fight these, then your speech is next and it will be your city. No matter what state you think you live in that may be so conservative, there are people that will try to use law enforcement and government to take away your First Amendment right of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, to practice your faith. That's what happens if we don't rush to the scene.
SPEAKER 02 :
that's right and not only do we stop it from spreading and massachusetts is the perfect example of that because if this were allowed to stand in massachusetts you better know that planned parenthood and the pro-abortion industry and machine is going to be trying it in other places and probably already are but if we can stop it here we stop it from spreading and when we win these cases We're not just winning them for our clients. We're winning them for everyone who wants to then go and protest in front of an abortion clinic, who wants to have a Bible study in their school, who wants to have a church on the beach. We're not just winning those rights for our clients and defending those rights for our clients and liberties for our clients. We're defending that for all American citizens.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, we're responding in many different ways, whether it's in the court or in the media. I saw a few comments came in and one just came in saying they were in Boston. They saw our ad campaign running. They saw the choice begins here ad campaign. And again, that's not an ad campaign to fundraise for the ACLJ. In fact, it's quite the opposite. We're spending a lot of money to get these ads out there. And all the ads are promoting people to go to pro-life pregnancy resource centers. That's all it is in a creative and a humble and a sweet way. You know, again, great visuals and imagery. This is not done as some sort of negative campaign. It's a very positive, very hope-filled campaign. We're seeing great results.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you know what's ironic to me is as they go after these pro-life pregnancy resource centers in Massachusetts, this is an article from the New York Times just a few weeks back. Botched care and tired staff, colon, Planned Parenthood in crisis. Is the state of Massachusetts going to run a campaign saying Planned Parenthood could be dangerous? They may not give you the health care that you're looking for. Never. They're running a campaign to try and get more business to Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinics.
SPEAKER 08 :
And before we were there, it was working. And they were getting results by running this smear campaign where people were avoiding those pro-life pregnancy centers. Of course, they called them anti-abortion centers. We're able to go in because of members of the ACLJ, because of champions, people that give on a monthly basis. We're able to go in and kind of hit it in two different ways. And that's the best way, which is obviously you take it to the court. We have incredible attorneys like CeCe over here. But also, we have an incredible media team and media staff because of your support. And we're able to run things like a counter campaign, take out billboard space, digital space, advertise. And of course, not advertising the ACLJ. Obviously, it's paid for by the ACLJ. but it's just to advertise these pro-life pregnancy resource centers in the area that are under attack and don't have the funds themselves. Cause a lot of them are volunteer run. They don't have a way to combat the state, but thankfully people like you support our work and we're able to do that. we just got out of our life and liberty drive you can obviously still support the work but i encourage you right now just pray for us sign our petitions do whatever you can even the free ways to support the aclj a lot of great ways you can do it at aclj.org slash sign and again pray for us as we head to these three vital pro-life trials that's just again a tip of the iceberg of really what's going on we have a second half hour coming up on the show but So make sure you stay tuned for that. If you lose us, find us on ACLJ.org or broadcasting on YouTube, Rumble, or later on on the ACLJ app, or right now on the ACLJ app, later on on the podcast feed. And hey, CeCe, someone said a happy CeCe de Mayo. So there you go. All right, we'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. We're going to get back to the main topic of the day. And of course, we're talking about Letitia James, Attorney General, going after the Trump administration, getting a bunch of other liberal attorney generals together to protest, to sue, saying you can't take away funding. for things that have not been cut even yet and of course again these are kind of bipartisan kind of programs you're talking about meals on wheels you're talking about the world trade center health care program for 9-11 responders you're talking about the head start program these i think you have a lot of people going okay of all the cuts maybe this isn't where we need to be cutting however this is a political move this is a media move you can see it you can see it in her quotes you can see in her statements i actually want to take a call right off the bat let's go to justin who's calling uh Watch it on YouTube. And if you want to give us a call too, 1-800-684-3110. Justin, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I support President Trump, but I think these programs maybe need to be refined with a sharpening stone rather than be throwing the trash. I mean, my question is this. Are cutting some of these bipartisan programs really even going to make a dent in the federal budget? I mean, I personally think it's unnecessary, and I think the fallout alone isn't worth the potential minimal cost savings.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Justin, I think the PR part of this is one of my concerns as well, which is does this all play into it? But we're talking about a lot of money here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think there's many ways to look at this, Justin. One, the top line is that the federal deficit is unsustainable. And the United States, unable to prosper and continue, has got to get a control on the spending addiction that Congress has and the federal government has. But as you even point out that, you know, there are some that like, really, is that even going to make a difference? Is that going to change it? One, The problem here, too, is that what Letitia James is saying they're going to try to stop them from cutting is preemptive in that we don't even know if that is the way that it's going to roll out, if it is a cut to these programs or if it's even restructuring of these programs. We've seen how inefficient the government is. what the the left wants is no changes to the federal government and the way it spends its money and administers this money if if the program changes or is administered in a different way they're going to try to block that as well even if it provides better services to those people that it is trying to help that's why when they keep saying they're going after social security because they're making cuts to the way social security is run not the benefits being paid out because they are making it more efficient and a better value for the taxpayer that's not a cut to social security benefits but the pr from the left is that they're coming after uh grandparents who are on a fixed income And that's not the reality. And so I do see and empathize with your position that like, OK, it could be getting out of hand because they're able to win meals on wheels.
SPEAKER 08 :
People will think that.
SPEAKER 11 :
But once again, that's not even what we won. We don't even know what's going on. There are the. The when you read into it, it seems that an administrator that was in charge of a department that oversaw some of the grants given to Meals on Wheels had been placed on leave. That doesn't mean that they have fired or completely done away with that program. So once again, we have to see one what they allege in the lawsuit because it hasn't come out yet. And two, we have to then get our heads around the fact that some of these things aren't reality of what they're saying.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Phone lines are open for you too at 1-800-684-3110. If you're about to hold, stay on hold. Robert, Tony, Lynette, we'll make sure to get to all of you coming up in the segment after this one. The next segment, we're going to have Rick Grinnell joining us. We're going to talk about this, but we're also going to talk about some of the new political items that are happening right now. Of course, Rick always has a great point of view and a great perspective. We're honored to have him as part of One of the ACLJ team and part of the broadcast team here each and every week. We can't do that, obviously, without your support to have great people like him, former directors of national intelligence. I mean, it's pretty wild to have him on our show still every week. And, of course, special envoy for President Trump. And remember our team from even last year. A lot of them are in the cabinet now. You've seen a lot of them on your TV screen. It really is because of people like you who support the work of the ACLJ. And, hey, who would you like to see join? our broadcast team you know some of them like uh tulsi gabbard sadly good for her and good for us too she is now the director of national intelligence that means she can't be on the show you know a couple times a week so who would you like to see put in the comments we'd like to hear from you phone lines are open for you as well at 1-800-684-3110 we'll be right back with more and rick grinnell coming up Welcome back to Secula. We are going to take your phone calls here in just a little bit. And we're going to start this off. Do we got Rick? Is Rick joining us? We got him connected. Okay, cool. Rick Grinnell's joining us. Before that, though, I want you to hear, Will, maybe you could set this up as well, from one of our favorites, from AOC. And she had a town hall this weekend. They set that up for us.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. So she was speaking at this town hall and decided to name check Tom Homan, the border czar who's been going around the country doing a fantastic job. And as you see the reports of the encounters at the border, it's unbelievable how quickly. They were able to get that situation under control. But earlier on, he had he had kind of put her on warning like, hey, if you are helping people evade the law and evade justice, then, you know, I'm putting you on notice. And this is what she had to say just this weekend directly at Tom Holman. Let's play by five.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when we first did one of these seminars, Tom Homan, then acting director of ICE, said that he was going to threaten to refer me to the DOJ because I'm using my free speech rights in order to advise people of their constitutionally guaranteed protection, and he may want to do it again today. And to that I say, come for me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Rick, with this sitting member of Congress basically saying, come for me, do I look like I care? When we've seen that there have been judges that have been arrested for helping illegal aliens evade justice and the federal government, what do you make of this threat from her?
SPEAKER 13 :
Look, let's be very clear about something. It is illegal to come into the country You have to have permission. We're the only country in the world that literally has politicians celebrating the fact that people are going around the rules. And so I think the reality is, is that we have a responsibility to out all of these politicians who are supporting illegal immigrants and screaming about a due process that really doesn't exist if you are coming into the country and then breaking the law by committing crimes, not showing up for court, all of these things. We are the most generous nation when it comes to immigration. We give roughly a million people a year U.S. citizenship, but they're our rule. And so we are not going to allow these radical left-wing politicians To blur the lines as to what they're doing. They are accomplices in people who are breaking federal immigration law. You don't get to pick and choose which laws to go into. If you do, we're going to have chaos in our society where everyone gets to pick and choose which laws they follow. We're not doing that. So what I would say. The solution is, is out every one of these radical politicians Who are screaming about allowing illegal immigrants to stay in our country because it's a very unpopular position. They are going to get wiped out in the next election. Again, no one in America who has common sense, hard work ethics wants to have people breaking the law and staying here. Of course we want due process, but you have a due process when you're at the border. And you tell us, you fill out an application and you tell us why it's so important for you to jump to the front of the line for asylum because of your situation. An economic situation. I can't find a job. I'm not making money. That is not a criteria to jump the line and to get asylum. It's safety issues. And we have a very good process that looks at all of this. But you have to follow the rules. If you don't follow the rules, then you you should get kicked out. And we need to out all of these radical politicians who are telling us that we should allow these criminals inside our country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rick, and I think people hear that. Look, it tugs on the heartstrings of Americans. Americans are compassionate people. They, you know, want to see. I think they've been pushing for our comprehensive immigration reform for many, many years because they don't want to see it just become mass chaos. They don't want to see this happens. Why the border? We supported closing the borders in some ways, getting them more secure. because we do appreciate uh immigration in this country but when you're just using it as a pawn or a tool and i think we could see that in the last election i think a lot of people could see that that it was a lot of talk but it wasn't the reality it was a lot of democrats trying to pull at your heartstrings but when it came down to actually protecting american citizens and even uh honestly protecting those coming over illegally they didn't really care about the topic they didn't really care about the humanity
SPEAKER 13 :
Look, let's be honest about one thing. The left keeps saying that they want comprehensive immigration reform. Why would we work really hard to come up with a new law when they literally have created cities and states to ignore the laws? They have a terrible track record of pretending like the rules, actually, the laws actually are something that they're going to follow. They've already told us they're not going to follow laws that they don't agree with. This is anarchy. And we need to be very clear and call them out. They think that this is a popular position. It's not. Let's go toe to toe all the way into the next election. We need to be very clear that we are generous. There's a process. But if you break the law, if you jump to the front of the line without permission, you are going to be dealt with harshly and you're going to be sent back home. This is just enforcing the rule of law.
SPEAKER 11 :
Rick, I wanted to change topics here for just a moment. President Trump put up on Truth Social this morning that he had a very productive telephone conversation with the president of Turkey, President Erdogan, concerning many subjects, including the war with Russia and Ukraine. all things Syria, Gaza, and more. But what caught my eye as well is that he talked about the relationship with President Erdogan during the first administration and that we worked together closely on numerous things, including the fact that he helped return Pastor Andrew Brunson, who was imprisoned, back to the United States. If you're new to the ACLJ broadcast, Andrew Brunson was the client of the ACLJ, Christian pastor held in prison in Turkey, And both president Trump and ambassador to Germany, Rick Grinnell at the time were instrumental in getting pastor Brunson back to the United States. So our client that president Trump demanded Erdogan release and Rick Grinnell was there to meet him on the tarmac and present him with an American flag. So just context for that, if you're seeing that on truth today, but, He also said that I look forward to working with President Erdogan on getting the ridiculous but deadly war between Russia and Ukraine ended now. How instrumental or pivotal could Turkey be in ending some of these conflicts?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think they're crucial. Remember, Turkey is a member of NATO, the NATO ally of ours. They've been a member of NATO since 1952. And we've had a series of different types of relationships with Turkey. I believe that we need to keep the Turks very close, that we need to coordinate more. We need to have a better policy. We we clearly have some rough policy issues with them right now. We need to pressure the Turks to have a better relationship with Israel. We need the Turks to play a constructive role within NATO. And I do think that they have been helpful. Certainly, Erdogan is the Putin whisperer. He can help us when it comes to Russia. And I think a powerful force of Trump and Erdogan together could really solve a lot of our problems in the Middle East and make a lot more progress globally. on the ukraine issue and so i'm i'm a fan of trying to keep the turks our nato ally close and that requires working on the relationship so that it doesn't go sour and that they understand where we're going i'll finish with this tom barrack who is a close friend of president trump And a good friend of mine is going to be the next U S ambassador to Turkey. He's just waiting for the Senate on approval. He's been through the committee process. It looks like the Senate likes him and will support him. And as soon as Tom Barrick can get to Turkey, I think he will help in this relationship because. He and President Trump are close, and he understands the importance of having a good NATO ally like Turkey in the fold of what the United States is trying to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Rick, for joining us. As always, we always appreciate it. And now it's time in the next segment to hear from you. We got a few lines open for you right now. If you're on hold, Lynette and Robert stay on hold. We lost a few calls, so we got a few open lines. Perfect time to call in at 1-800-684-3110. Why don't you go ahead and do that again? 1-800. Look, it's on the screen right there if you're watching. 1-800-684-3110. 1-0. Call us right now. Kind of last chance to get on the air today. We can talk about any of the topics of the day. Letitia James, talk about our Supreme Court, our big trials coming up this month. All of our pro-life work, free speech work, whatever you got, we'll do our best to cover it right now. Again, give us a call, 1-800-684-3110. Of course, as we prepare for these trials, I want you to get involved. You can sign a petition right now at aclj.org slash sign, or just go to the website, click around, see all of the cool, great content that we provide at absolutely no cost. No extra cost, nothing behind a paywall. Tried to send an article to a friend this week, and they said, I can't read it. Not on aclj.org. We'll be right back. All right, it's time. It's time to hear from you. That's right, secular listeners. The most important voice in the room. Some of you have been on hold for close to a half hour, and I appreciate that. But of course, if you're an ACLJ champion, you get bumped to the front. And that, of course, the champion is someone who gives on a monthly recurring basis. And again, that's not like a hard set rule. That's just because I decided it. So when you tell our phone screeners, make sure to always tell them if you're an ACLJ champion.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love that you say it's not a hard set rule, but you decided it, but you are the one that is making that decision.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's not like on the website. I mean, like it doesn't say like here are the perks and one of them is bump to the front of the line. Got it. I just have mandated that. It's executive order, really. There you go. This wasn't through committee or legislation. Who is it that presents executive orders? When he sits there and signs them, we go, what's this for? And then he says it. So you could do that for me. You could be like, this is for the champions. And then you'll get a photo, like a snap, smile. I'll hand you the pin. There you go. I'll hand the pin to Lynette, who's calling in New York on line five. She's an ACLJ champion, which I appreciate. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you so much. And God bless all of you. And as you mentioned correctly, also, I am born and raised in New York. And horrified at what Leticia James, who's supposed to be the, the lead, um, um, person actually supporting and enforcing the laws. And instead she's encouraging lawlessness because, uh, just, just, um, loud mouthing about what, uh, an organization or a group are going to do. And without even we don't even know yet exactly what is going to be cut and why.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lynette, I agree with you. It seems like New Yorkers should not be pleased with this. Obviously, there is a constituency in New York that probably love this, that really want to see Letitia James just go after President Trump, as she said when she was running for attorney general she was going to do. And then she did. She brought the lawfare. Now she's doing it again, even though she has her own legal issues. Not every New Yorker is like you, Lynette, that is well-informed, understands what's going on here, that this is lawfare, this is trying to distract and play games. But, you know, there's another thing that's also being reported, that she's now hunting for insider trading crimes within Trump's inner circle. with relation to the tariffs like she has no actual uh allegation no whistleblower she's just starting to go around and see if anybody she's like i assume if they work for president trump they must be corrupt so let's just do some deep dives and there's even people saying this is from business insider that ex-prosecutors call this inquiry unprecedented So once again, she is just engaged in a witch hunt against President Trump. And that is why she was elected. That was what she ran on. And she's going to continue doing it no matter what her legal issues that pop up. She's not going to focus on actually helping the people of New York. She's not going to go after the crime in the state like she needs to be doing to clean up areas of New York. Instead, she's going to continue her focus on the leftist agenda that she feels like she has a mandate to do. And that's to go after conservatives anywhere she can. And Lynette, I'd be frustrated if I were a New Yorker as well, that that's what my taxpayer dollars are going to. Because, you know, state taxes in New York, not cheap, not cheap. I've heard that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let's continue on. Let's take some more phone calls. This is probably the last chance, by the way, if you want to call in. We've got five minutes left in the show. We've got two calls lined up. Probably take one more. So if you want to be that last call of the day, maybe you'll make it through. 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to Robert in Maryland on line four. Robert, welcome back.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thank you. My question is, when the media talks about President Trump cutting federal employees jobs, I wonder, do they ever bring up the fact that the jobs that he is cutting, the people are receiving buyouts and also many of them are being put on administrative leave? The other question I have is the media also talking about the fact that many of the the federal spending and the money that's being done by some of the government agencies that have been, uh, Doge it's talked about cutting money are actually not in line with the original mission of those agencies. Look at the USA ID, for example, they've been shelling out millions of dollars on an annual basis, uh, to fund terrorist groups, uh, to sell condoms to different countries, to, to fund DEI programs and have absolutely nothing to do with, uh, disaster relief, uh, as if they were originally founded for that express purpose.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Robert, I think a lot of people feel that way. They see the corruption in the spending and they want to take care of it. Now, I think you have to walk a fine line, and this is where the Trump administration's got to be careful. I think you're right. Most people are not protesting the idea of government spending being reduced and being cleaned up. I think almost you could probably say that is the most bipartisan thing ever. The problem is when it starts to affect the sort of liberal propaganda machines, when it starts to affect organizations. Now, again, it doesn't necessarily mean that all the people feel that way. It's just the people with the voice. And a lot of times those are lobbyists. A lot of times those are big groups, not necessarily always the people.
SPEAKER 11 :
See, I have to disagree with you here a little bit. You said, you know, cutting spending or is the most bipartisan thing. What I've seen from the Democrat Party is that if you cut one dollar. That means you are ending a life somewhere. That is how far they've taken this line of anything is that any cut is threatening someone's life. That literally every single dollar in our budget, which is running at almost $2 trillion deficit. So we're spending $2 trillion more than the government takes in in revenue. is essential to saving lives in this country and that there's no waste. Yeah, but that is the people who are giving the talking points to the people. And I don't feel like anyone that I've seen that is supporting of the party today is fine, has openly said, honestly said, yeah, we got to get spending in check. we really got to and in the fact that the congress is so addicted to spending and many republicans are guilty of this as well this is a bipartisan issue is how much congress will spend is that there can be no cuts that without them doing a lawsuit that every once you start spending the money it is illegal to stop spending money and you got to get away from that mindset all right let's try to get a couple calls in ron in new york you're on the air ron
SPEAKER 05 :
Tony, how you doing? Yeah, I'm calling about this Letitia James thing. As a New Yorker, I just feel it's totally shameful that my tax dollars are going to fund an attorney general who's up on charges for fraud. And quite frankly, it looks like an open and shut case. And for her now to bring in a lawsuit against Donald Trump,
SPEAKER 08 :
It gets her back in the news. I'm only cutting you off because we've got a minute and a half left. It gets her back in the news and maybe a positive spin for her people. So they get excited about that. Maybe they'll move on from the press circus surrounding the last few weeks with her, including, like you said, that fraud scandal, which I'm sure is more covered in the state of New York than it is here. Let's very quickly, I don't know if we're able to take all this call, but Alan, you've been on hold. Go ahead or watch on Salem News Channel. And that's why I still put you up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, thank you. The question I had was, Alejandro Mayorkas was the individual in the Biden administration that made my blood boil every time I heard him before Congress just lie and lie and lie. Is there anything in the law or Trump's administration that Can it hold him legally, judicially responsible for... Is he one of the pardoned ones?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know if he got a pardon, but I think one thing that held him accountable, he's no longer in government anymore. And you know what? We also saw how quickly the border could get under control under a new administration. But a lot of the things, Alan, I think that happened under the previous administration were a national tragedy.
SPEAKER 08 :
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This week's episode of America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson takes us on an extraordinary journey with Jim Sterner, a veteran of the Second World War. Listeners are treated to Jim's recollections of major wartime events, including his landing at Omaha Beach and his participation in the Battle of the Bulge. As Jim narrates his adventures and the emotional moments he faced, Munson provides a platform for a deep dive into the human experiences that defined a generation. This episode is a moving tribute to the enduring spirit of those who fought for the values we cherish.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. And the show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings. And returned stateside realizing that we need to hear these stories. We need to record them and broadcast them and archive them. So hence, America's Veterans Stories. I am thrilled and honored to have on the line with me Jim Sterner. He is a World War II veteran. He fought at Battle of the Bulge as well as the Rhineland. And it is great to have you on the line, Jim Sterner. Welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here, Kim.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, let's start with what year were you born, Jim?
SPEAKER 04 :
I was born in 1923. So if you do the arithmetic, I'm 99.
SPEAKER 11 :
You sound like you're 60. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
I am so excited to hear your story. Where were you born?
SPEAKER 04 :
I was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I was raised in Allentown, Pennsylvania. And when I went to high school... We moved to Wilmington, Delaware, so I was graduated from high school in Wilmington, Delaware.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. And do you remember when you heard that Pearl Harbor had been bombed?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. It was Sunday, and I was going to the University of Delaware, and I was... 18 years old, physically fit, and I was living in a fraternity house, and the phone started ringing, and all of the fathers were calling down there to plead with their sons not to do anything rash, to take it easy, and... Most of us listened to our fathers and did not quit school and enlist. There was one fraternity brother who, two days later, he was just about to enter his last semester in chemical engineering, and he came in the fraternity house, and he had just enlisted in the paratroops. He had a toothbrush in his jacket pocket. And we all said his nickname was Streaky. And we all said to him, Streaky, one more semester and you can do a lot more good for your country than you can running away now and joining the paratroops. And his answer to us was, which was typical for the time, my conscience dictates. And Streaky Shorter was off, went through the whole European campaign, D-Day, the bulge and everything else, became a top first sergeant in the paratroops.
SPEAKER 11 :
And he survived World War II?
SPEAKER 04 :
He survived World War II. That is correct. He's gone now.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is absolutely remarkable. So then he must have jumped in behind enemy lines on D-Day, yes?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, he did. He did. He has a remarkable record. And as I say, he became a first sergeant. Now, with three and a half years of chemical engineering, I'm surprised he didn't get a commission. But somehow or other, he didn't.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is absolutely fascinating. So the rest of you listened to your fathers. You did not quit school and enlist. But how did you end up then in the... I just want to ask, was Streaky 101st Airborne or 82nd?
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't remember, Kim. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, that's okay. That's okay. No problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
So let's talk about... What was the Band of Brothers? Was that the 86th? He was in the same division as the Band of Brothers.
SPEAKER 11 :
I should know that, and I don't. So that will be homework for all of our listeners, Jim, okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
Not now either.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, let's talk about you. So 1941, you are in college. What's your story? What happens during the war? How did you end up in the Army?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, as a teenager, I was bitten by the army bug. And between the two world wars, the United States had a program called Citizens Military Training Program. It was held in the summers only, and... you had to be 16 years old to enlist. And when I was 16, I enlisted, and I went to Fort Dix, New Jersey, for the summer. And it was a program, looking back on it, I think primarily to keep reserve officers up to date. But there were teenage boys from the whole area Most of the people in Fort Dix were from New York City. But we spent a month at Fort Dix learning military discipline, close order drill, open order drill. We went to the rifle range, did all the things that the soldiers did. And in those days, a private's pay was $21 a month. Or as a lot of people said, We were paid $21 a day once a month. And so I was red hot to go in the Army, and I enjoyed that very much. And then when I went to the University of Delaware in September of 1941, I had two full years of reserve officer training. It was what was then called the Coast Artillery Corps. We were dealing with 155-millimeter guns. So while I was at Delaware, we went on an accelerated program. They were turning out college graduates in three years rather than four. So I was able to get into two years of reserve officer training. And I enlisted... while at the University of Delaware in December of 1942 because I was anxious to go in active duty. And, uh, I had a guilty conscience. I remember getting on a bus or going in a crowd. I figured everybody was looking at me and wondering why isn't he in the service. So, uh, I enlisted in the Reserve Corps and then quit school so I'd be called up. And I was called up and did basic training in Camp Walters, Texas. And while at Camp Walters, I qualified for the Army Specialized Training Program. Have you ever heard of it, Kemp?
SPEAKER 11 :
I have heard of it, but I don't know much about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
The Army's ASTP was a program where if you qualified, the Army sent you back to college. But while you were in that program, you could not even get a promotion to private first class. But it was a good deal because the Army sent me back to college first. And I was in college again for six months until that program was discontinued. As I understand it, the Army was looking ahead to D-Day and they were scraping the bottom of the barrel for personnel. And some general looked over his shoulder and he saw 10 or 15,000 physically fit young men that the Army was sending to college. And he figured, man, if we stop this program, we can fill three infantry divisions, which are around the country, that are all about half full, and we can get two men for every man that's in college. And I think the divisions that we were sent to were the 84th, which was my division, The 106th, which you may recall, was the first division to take the brunt of the German attack in the Ardennes and the 102nd. And so that program was discontinued in May of 44. And I personally was sent to Camp Claiborne, Louisiana, which is near Alexandria. And I was a private in a frontline infantry rifle company, much to my amazement, because I had thought with my two years of reserve officer training and my summer of citizens' military training camp, I figured I was pretty much of a hotshot, and I was a shoo-in to get a commission. But I found myself as a buck private officer, and a frontline infantry rifle company.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow, and that's May of 1944 as they're preparing for D-Day. So what happens then, Jim Sterner?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we trained in Camp Claiborne, Louisiana. We reported there on April Fool's Day. And some of us thought the Army was playing an April Fool's joke on us by sending us to the infantry, but they were not. So it was dead serious. And that was April. And I have to interject here that on July 1st, my girlfriend and I decided to get married on my overseas furlough. So I was married on July 1st, 1944. and went back to Camp Claiborne, and my wife was still going to the University of Delaware. And in September of 1944, we sailed out of New York City to Scotland and got on a train in the Firth of Clyde to an army base in southern England. We were there about a month. And I think it was October 30th, we went to Southampton, got on a ship and crossed the Channel. I somehow or other got picked to drive a Jeep. So I went over on an LST and landed on Omaha Beach. in November 1st, 1944.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Hey, I tell you what, Jim, that is fascinating. Let's go to break. I'm talking with World War II veteran Jim Sterner. He's sharing his experience. We will be right back with Jim Sterner.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Ah, ah, ah.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I'm thrilled and honored to have on the line with me 99-year-old or 99-year-young Jim Sterner, World War II veteran. We're talking about his experiences. Jim, just a couple of questions. First thing, on your overseas furlough, You married your girlfriend. She became your wife. There had to be a lot of emotion between the two of you because there was a lot of unknowns, correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Kim, you hit the nail on the head. There was a tremendous amount of family pressure on both sides against us getting married because, as I said earlier, I was a private in a frontline infantry company. I was gun fodder. Right. There was a tremendous amount of pressure from our parents to not do such a dumb thing as to get married. And of course, everybody just knew that I might be crippled or blind or whatever, return home and have a young, beautiful wife. And they thought we should wait till after the war. But I don't know whether you can take this comment or not, but that was 1944. We were madly in love. We wanted to sleep together. And we wouldn't do it unless we were married. So we decided to get married. And to us, it was that simple. To the parents, it wasn't quite that simple. But they did put on a big wedding in Wilmington in a very short time. And my father-in-law actually at one point was going to refuse to give away his daughter, but he did. And everything. And we had 76 years of beautiful, wonderful married life. We have five daughters and from my point of view, a wonderful life together.
SPEAKER 11 :
That is a remarkable story, Jim Sterner. I just got chills as you were telling me that. That is just amazing. So thank you. Okay, so, and I'm just thinking about your wife saying goodbye. I mean, I just can't imagine the emotion. So you're off to Europe and you go on to Omaha Beach in November after the initial landings were in June. What did you see and what did you think when you were landing with this LST on Omaha Beach?
SPEAKER 04 :
My biggest thought was, my God, how did they do it? I'm glad I wasn't here. And I was a guy who was gung-ho in the Army. I was a guy who was anxious to get into combat. I had ups and downs, Kim. There were times when I didn't want to go to fight, and there were other times when I did. In Claiborne, I became convinced that that the 84th Division wasn't going to get to get overseas while the war was still on. So I actually volunteered for the paratroops so I could get over and do some fighting. And yet I took advantage of the Army Specialized Training Program where I let them send me to college, which was a long way from any injury. In fact, one of the theme songs we used to sing in ASTP was, take down your service flag mother, your sons in the ASTP. You won't get hurt by a slide rule, so the gold need never be. So we were a little bit self-conscious about not being in the war. But on the other hand, we were greedy enough to take advantage of a free college education.
SPEAKER 11 :
If there was going to be a free college education, I think that this is one I could probably get behind because of your service on that, Jim Sterner.
SPEAKER 04 :
I certainly did. And luckily for me, I guess, after my initial interviews, To go into the paratroops, the division was alerted for overseas and all transfers were canceled. And so I did get to go overseas.
SPEAKER 11 :
But not as a paratrooper, correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
But not as a paratrooper, as an infantry private. And K Company of the 333rd Infantry Regiment, 84th Division. Okay. Okay. The 84th Division was nicknamed the Rail Splitters because it was, in World War I, an infantry division from Illinois, and it was called the Abe Lincoln Division. You may recall Abe Lincoln was a rail splitter. And our patch had a white axe into a log, and so we were called the Rail Splitters.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so you're now, let's, so it's November 1944. You've gone on shore at Normandy. What happens after that, Jim Sterner?
SPEAKER 04 :
We got on trucks and had a convoy across France into Holland. And I think we spent the best part of a week in that convoy going across France. A lot of rain, a lot of mud. And we got into Holland, and we were in a little town called Heerenhen, H-E-E-R-L-E-N. And we lived in a schoolhouse and getting ready to go into action. And it was mid-November, I think it was November 17, that we— crossed the border from Holland into Germany. And at that time, the 333rd Regiment was on loan to the British Army. So we were really, in fact, we were Sherwood Rangers yeoman. And the only difference we really saw between being in the British Army and the American was that we got a rum ration from the British. So every morning we had about a half a canteen cup of rum while we were in reserve. When we actually got into the battle on November 17, the rum ration quit coming up to the front. But we started the attack, and we were supposed to take a little town named Wurm, W-U-R-M. And we went through a pretty sizable city of Geilenkirchen. We had no trouble capturing Geilenkirchen. The Germans just completely withdrew the battalion. which was four companies, had one casualty in the capture of Geilenkirchen. That casualty was the Catholic chaplain. Nobody knows to this day how in the world he got wounded. But we took Geilenkirchen and then proceeded through some fields, and we ran into a German pillbox. Do you know what a pillbox is, Kim?
SPEAKER 11 :
I do. But explain that to our listeners.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, easiest way to explain it is to think of Jackie Kennedy. She wore a pillbox hat. It's a round, a pillbox in Germany was part of the Siegfried line, which was a row of these concrete, reinforced concrete houses. maybe 20 feet in diameter, reinforced concrete walls.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 04 :
Very, very thick reinforced concrete walls. They were built so strong that I actually saw an American dive bomber come in and drop a bomb on this pillbox that I'm talking about. And the pillbox looked to me as though it raised up about six inches, shook a little bit, and went right back down. And the firing from the pillbox never stopped. Wow. They were magnificent structures. And K Company attacked that pillbox for five days and five nights. And when we started the attack on November 17, there were about 197 men in the company at full strength. After five days and nights of attacking, we were pulled back into reserve and we got our mail. And at that time, there were only 44 of us left on our feet to receive our mail. and we had not captured the pillbox. So this was one little battle that I think you'd have to say the Germans won.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm just thinking, and just describe this, five days, five nights, you're sleeping on the ground, food, tell us about that during this battle.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, there's a whole lot to tell about that battle. There's a lot of stories from five days. We captured a German chateau, a beautiful structure, one wing of which was totally on fire. The Chateau was the company headquarters and it was the aid station. And we attacked out of there across a field which was planted with sweet beets. And we crossed the stream. It was called the Wurm, W-U-R-M River, but it really wasn't a river as we think of one. It was more of a stream about waist or chest deep, and we crossed it, and there were six of us that got within about 30 feet of the pillbox, and It was night. This was all done in the dark. And we were receiving a lot of artillery fire. The German 88-millimeter gun, which was probably the best weapon in Europe in World War II, was firing at us. And when we got to within about 30 feet of the pillbox, the machine gun fire and the small arms fire was so heavy that we ducked into a German house. And we were lined up in the house and I was on the, we were in an alleyway that went across the back of the house to the street. And I was standing on the left end of the, with our backs against the brick wall which was facing the Germans and a good buddy of mine was on my right and another guy from Wilmington, Delaware on his right and the Germans let loose with an 88 which hit right behind the man two down from me and just totally shattered him and wounded everybody on his right so there were six of us left in the house and we decided the place to go was in the crawl space so we found a door in the living room we stayed in the crawl space for 24 hours having a discussion about what to do and i was all for making a run for it but Cooler minds prevailed, and they decided we should stay there until the shelling let up a little bit. There's a little bit of a side story here. Do we have another couple minutes, Kim?
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what? Let's go to break and come back, and we'll keep that as a cliffhanger on the side story on this. I'm talking with World War II veteran Jim Sterner. We'll be right back with Jim Sterner.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. On the line with me is 99-year-old Jim Sterner, World War II veteran. We're talking about this battle regarding a pillbox, correct, Jim?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Before we went to break, you said there was a side story regarding you're in this crawl space trying to determine what to do. You said cooler heads have prevailed. So what's this side story?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, while we were in that alleyway before the 88 shell hit and killed some people, I was standing at a position where I could look out the side door across the street. And I saw, as I said, we were in the British Army at the time. We were assigned to the Brits. I saw the Sherman tank, which was manned by British soldiers, come up. And the tank commander was standing up in the turret of the tank. And he was directing fire at the pillbox. And the reason I could see this all at night is because the Germans were firing tracer bullets. And they were firing so many hundreds of tracer bullets that it was really lit up at night. And I could see the tank commander who was trying to give us relief. He was directing fire, and I saw him get killed and slump over in the turret of the tank. And I think he recognized that we were in the house and in a jam, and he was trying to give us relief so that we could stay alive. Wow. I have thought about this man ever since this was November 22nd, 1944. And through the miracle of Facebook and your friend and mine, Ralph Peters in Holland, I have met this tank commander's son again. who lives outside of Nottingham, England. His name is Michael Augustus Butler. His father was Gus Butler Sr. The boy, who's now 82, was five years old when his father was killed. And through the miracle of Facebook... Gus and I have become friends visiting each other electronically and on the telephone, and I have been able to tell him exactly the situation of his father's death, the fact that his father was there to help out six Americans, and we have visited the father's grave with Ralph. And for me, very emotional. And Gus and I have shed a few tears together. In fact, I'm moved right now. I am, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
I am too, Jim Sterner. And this has got to be so powerful for Gus, just a five-year-old kid when his father was killed in World War II, and then to connect with you after all these years. And the work that Ralph Peters is doing is absolutely amazing. And so at this point in time, I'd like you to share with our listeners what's going to be happening here within the next few days. with Ralph and Ron over in Europe. I think it's super important if you let people know about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I will do that, but may I interject something before that?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Ralph and I have become friends. In fact, Ralph has visited me here in my cottage. I'm in a retirement community in Pennsylvania, and Ralph has visited me here twice. Ralph and Ron took me on a tour of this area. This house that we were in was in a little village called Muhlendorf, Germany. Ralph and Ron took me on a tour of the fields, which look the same today as they did in 1944. He has taken me to the house where we were in the crawl space. And I have guided him again through the miracle of Facebook. I have guided him to that exact spot. And I have told him where the tank was, where Gus Butler was killed. And I said, now, Ralph, if you walk up that street in front of you, about 30 meters or 40 meters, something like that. That's where the pillbox was. Ralph and Ron walked up there, and it was silence on the phone for two minutes maybe, and all of a sudden I hear this yelling and screaming. They had found the remains of the pillbox. It's still there. Wow. What a thrill. And they pushed back some weeds, and I actually saw the reinforced concrete remains of part of the pillbox. Now, what's going to happen on Sunday is Ralph and Ron are going to Belgium, I think, for some Battle of the Bulge type of reunion. But they're going to go and they're going to visit a village named Bourdon, B-O-U-R-D-O-N, Belgium, which is the largest city near there is a city called Marche, M-A-R-C-H-E. I think if you want to get a little Frenchy, you call it Marche en Femond. and for dunn is the little village where on december 26 1944 i was wounded and ralph and ron are gonna go to the spot on the road which we know exactly where it is where i was wounded and they're gonna relay this scene back here to my cottage, and one of my daughters, I guess the one that you're in contact with, Tammeson, is going to be here at 8 o'clock Sunday morning, and we're going to revisit Bourdain, Belgium, at that time with Ron and Ralph.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and Ralph, I know well. When I was over in Normandy in 2016, he traveled with our group, and so he is a friend. And he actually was stateside here in Denver a few years ago and spoke at some different organizations here. And he is just a gem. And also I've interviewed Ron, and I just love the work that they're doing. So this is so exciting what's going to be happening with this Jim Sterner. So... What kind of emotions are you feeling as you're going back via Facebook, via technology, to when you were doing battle in World War II? What's going through your mind?
SPEAKER 04 :
Totally amazed. I wish I could understand it. Very emotional. In fact, it's tearful emotion. And but to think that I was there when we were there, we used to pull up. Which turned out to be sugar beets, we thought they were rutabagas. But it turns out that Ralph went there and while Ralph was showing me the Chateau, which I knew quite well and. I was telling him how we pulled rutabagas out of the ground. He pulled one out of the ground and he said, the only problem is it isn't a rutabaga, it's a sweet pea. But we went back and I say, unbelievable emotional to see the pillbox. Incidentally, I think the Americans never did conquer that pillbox. The Battle of the Bulge came, and then we went in and around it and eventually shut it down by coming in from the rear, from the German side. But that was a tough battle and a lot of memories. One of the things that happened in the battle, a group of us Somehow, and this is totally unexplainable, some of us got out in front of the rest of the American lines, and we ended up about 200 or 300 yards behind German lines. And we came upon a house, and we started receiving a lot of small-arm fire from this house. And We jumped in shell holes and started firing back, and it was at that time that the tank commander, Gus, saw what was happening, and he pulled his tank up on our left flank. and started rapid-fire 75-millimeter gun into the house. And he was going kapow, kapow, kapow. And after a little bit, a white flag came out of the house, and 36 Germans surrendered to us.
SPEAKER 11 :
What did you do with 36 Germans then?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we lined them up in a column or two and searched them for souvenirs.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you get any souvenirs?
SPEAKER 04 :
I got a watch, which I did not have a wristwatch at the time for some reason. So I borrowed a German's wristwatch that he had. And after I had time, when we were pulled back in reserve, I examined the wristwatch and I found French watches. engraving on the back of it. I don't know the truth, of course, but I'd like to believe that the German took it from a French soldier. I took it from him. And when I was wounded, the medics took it from me. But he probably bought it in Paris is what really happened.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, that's quite a story. Hey, let's go to break. I'm talking with Jim Sterner, World War II veteran. We're going to go to break. We'll be right back with Jim Sterner.
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SPEAKER 11 :
And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. On the line with me is Jim Sterner, a World War II veteran, 99 years old. And Jim Sterner, you're over in, we're talking about November 1944 into December 1944. What's the next story that you have that you can share with our listeners?
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Well, I think a story that people seem to enjoy is After we finished with that pillbox, we got a bunch of replacements to get the company back near full strength, and we moved across some muddy fields into a town called Lindern, Germany. Our mission in Lindern was a holding action. We had foxholes. around the perimeter of the city, of the village, what I call it. It was big enough to have a railroad station. It's about as much as I can say about Lindern. But we stayed in that position for, I think it was nine days, actually, at which time we would spend half our time in a foxhole and half our time in a cellar in the village and one time i was in a foxhole and for some reason didn't get relieved so instead of spending about 12 hours i spent 24 hours in that foxhole and it just happened i was with a buddy from texas who had a mental problem. In those days, we called it shell shock. I think today the polite thing is post-traumatic stress syndrome. And he could not stand watch. So I stood on my feet for 24 hours. And when I was relieved, I went back into the village and I went into the first cellar I could find and And in that part of Germany, most cellars were built like forts. They were built with stones in archways with the house built above it. The cellar I happened to go into was built with concrete block like an American cellar. And the owner of the house had coated the concrete block with plaster and so that every time a German artillery shell hit anywhere around town, the concrete blocks vibrated a little bit, and the atmosphere in the cellar was a fog of plaster. And a very close buddy of mine, in fact, the man who was my best man when my wife and I were married the previous July 1st, came into the cellar with me, and he looked around and he said, Jim, I can't stay in this place. This is a death trap. He said, I'm going to go look for a better cellar. So I, at that point, was so tired that I lay down on the cellar floor and I was out of it. A couple of minutes later, Don came back in and he said, hey, I just found a great cellar right across the street. Let's go over there. And I said, Don, I am so tired that I don't care if I get killed. I cannot walk up those steps and across the street. I'm staying here no matter what happens. Well, here's this guy that he and I had taken basic training together. We were roommates in college. We are in the same platoon in the division. He was my best man, and I refused to move, and he doesn't want to stay in a death trap. So he thought about it a little bit and finally said, well, if you're going to stay, I'll stay with you. And I was glad because against all Army regulations, Don carried a blanket in his combat pack. So I knew that if he stayed there, I would be able to sleep under a blanket that night on the dirt floor. So Don decided to stay, and somehow while all this was going on, a third member of our platoon, Faustino Guerra, from San Antonio, came in. So Faustino and Don and I slept under Don's blanket. And I always like to add that Faustino and I insisted that Don sleep in the middle where it was less cold than on the outsides. The next day when we got out, And about in the village, we found out that during the night that cellar across the street had been hit right in the cellar steps in the cellar door with a big artillery shell. The house collapsed. There were eight men killed and everybody else in the cellar was wounded to one degree or another. Lots of concussions. And our cellar, our cellar, the death trap, came through with flying colors.
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Boy, it seems like the hand of divine providence was upon you that night, Jim Sterner. That is an amazing story. Let's talk about Battle of the Bulge. We've got a few minutes left. Tell us about that.
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Well, the Battle of the Bulge, We didn't get there until about the 22nd of December, and by then the Germans were pretty well beat. So we didn't really see intense fighting. We were stationed along a road... which had been dug into the side of a hill, and we could walk up and down that road freely, and the Germans couldn't hit us even with a mortar. One of the stories that we tell is that this gentleman, Don, of whom I'm speaking in the cellar, on Christmas Day, 1944, Don and I were assigned to a bazooka, and there was a German tank with an 88-millimeter gun on it about 50 yards in front of us. We were assigned to the bazooka and told if the tank moves, knock it out. Don and I, the place was frozen. You couldn't take a foxhole, and we were lying on top of the ice, And after about 10 minutes, I said to Don, I hope you know how to fire this thing because I've never even seen a bazooka fired before in any way, shape or form. And he said, I don't know how to fire a bazooka. So here are two guys on the front line. Assignment to knock out a tank that we don't know how to fire a bazooka. But we took the rockets out of the ammunition bag. We examined it and decided what we would do in case the tank moved, which it didn't, by the way, luckily. And it turned out that we analyzed it properly. So if the tank had moved... we could have at least gotten a shot off. Now, what damage it would do is another story. Years later, some people found out who the tank commander was of that tank. His name was Gerhard Tebbe, and he came over to the United States to a reunion, which unfortunately I did not go to. And Gerhard Tebbe told us at that time that he was a tank commander and there were 12 tanks. The one that we saw was right in front of us. The other 11 were in the woods behind him. And we said, why didn't you just roll over us and kill us all? And he said, well, we couldn't because we were out of gas. You may remember the story, Kim, about the Americans burning our gas.
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Yes.
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Well, that decision probably saved my life.
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Wow. Okay. Yeah. A tank's not of much use if it doesn't have any gas. We've got two minutes left, Jim. You were then wounded, correct? Correct.
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Well, in two minutes I can tell you that our artillery decided they were going to knock out the tank. So a 4.2-inch mortar about a mile to the rear fired a shot to knock out the tank, and that shot hit on the road that I'm talking about and hit me in the right calf. And I sat down to check the wound, and my friend Don was sitting on my right, and two medics came out to look at me. And at that time, a second shot came in at the same place, and it killed both those. Those two medics took all the shrapnel, which would have killed Don and me. And those two medics fell over my legs. And I pushed them off my legs and started crawling down the road. And the artillery forward observer came up and said, don't worry. He said, I didn't see the first round come in. So I called a second round at the same spot. But there won't be any more. I know what's going on now. And so that's how I got wounded by friendly fire.
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Wow, that is quite a story. Jim Sterner, thank you so much for sharing this story with us. Your final thought you'd like to leave with our listeners?
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I don't know what to say, Kim.
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Well, I so appreciate you sharing your story with us, and I'm excited to reconnect with you after you've been with Ralph and Ron as well. So, Jim Sterner, indeed, thank you. It's been an honor to get to do this interview.
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It's been my pleasure, Kim. I enjoyed it. I hope somebody listens.
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They will. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. So Jim Sterner, thank you so much. My friends, indeed, we stand on the shoulders of giants. So God bless you and God bless America.
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So we're really off the rails here, and we wonder how on earth Did this ever happen? And it is because of the people that we have elected into office. Now, I did want to alert all of you also that there are some different elections out there that you may not be aware of. It could be your fire protection boards. I know South Suburban Parks and Recreation have a board election. And it's really important that we make our voices heard. Now, for my director for the South Metro Fire District, there is only one candidate. And I find that really kind of crazy that I wasn't actually really aware. that we were going to have an election on that. I'm thinking note to self, I've got to work a little bit harder on all of staying informed on that. And so we all need to go to work on that and work together. So be sure you might want to take a look at your property tax bill and the different places that you pay taxes, such as your parks and rec district or anything else there and see if they're having an election tomorrow. And you want to make sure that you have your make your voices heard. Next headline, in light of all of this that's going on, we have, this is from CBS News, and it says, Denver's mayor is proposing hefty raises for his appointees amid bleak economic forecasts. And so this is really unbelievable. It says, just four days after the city of Denver economists and finance personnel warned of recession-like conditions, increasing economic uncertainty, and recommended city leaders keep their budgets flat, CBS News Colorado has learned that Denver Mayor Mike Johnston is seeking double-digit raises for a dozen of his appointees, with some of the raises topping 30% to 40%. We probably should have done this six months ago, conceded John Ewing, a spokesman for Johnston, when questioned about the timing of the department head raises. And this is unbelievable. It says, according to the information obtained by CBS News Colorado and confirmed by Ewing, the mayor plans to ask a city council committee on Tuesday to approve the following raises. Manager of the Department of Aviation, from $346,000 to $406,000, a 17.2% increase. Manager of the Department of Finance, from $185,000 to $266,000, a 43.6% increase. And, of course, remember that on top of this, it's not just the pay, but they also have all kinds of benefits. The city attorney from $216,000 to $268,000, which is a 24% raise, and the manager of the Department of Transportation and Infrastructure from $195,000 to $240,000. It says also racking up large proposed salary bumps, the managers of Parks and Rec, Department of Safety, General Services and other department heads. It says Ewing said the Merrill appointees had not received raises since 2022 and needed additional compensation or the city would risk losing them. Well, I think, you know what, you might be able to find somebody else that might work for a little bit less. This is really tone deaf to what is going on here in Colorado. And, again, it is because of these policies that our economic forecasts are – are just so concerning for all of us. And then to add on more and more rules and regulations with this like House Bill 1001, which will probably pass and be signed by the governor, it is just tone deaf to what is happening to everyday people out there. And this is from KUSATV, and it says that Colorado, this is on the state level, Colorado lawmakers warn financial woes are just beginning as Governor Jared Polis signs a $44 billion budget. And, of course, follow the money. When people say they're not interested in politics, well, politics is certainly interested in you. And the only way that they can spend this money is they have to take it from us, we the people. And so last week, the governor signed the $44 billion budget for 2025-2026. And... It says that the JBC faced a $1.2 billion funding shortfall driven by higher than expected Medicaid costs and a structural deficit. Hear that word, structural deficit. To patch that hole, legislators had to eliminate certain programs, including the State Employee Reserve Fund, which served as a loan program for state employees, an incentive program for banks lending to low-income individuals, and the school mental health screening program, which only saw six schools across the state participating. Polis commended the work of the six-member JBC, which includes four Democrats and two Republicans. And what we need to do is really cut more and more spending across the board here. And so, goodness. So a couple of other things I wanted to mention is that the USMC Memorial Foundation will be sponsoring their second annual golf tournament, which will be March 15th, excuse me, May 15th, excuse me, May 15th, which is Thursday. Hold on here. I got to get my schedule back here. It's going to be May 15th. I'm going to be out there with Teresa Irby, who is our liaison partner. And we're going to be out there for lunch. And so join us for that. And then let's see. The other thing is, oh, you can get more information on that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And be sure and check that out there. And then also the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo, Colorado. This is something that you really should do with the kids is to get down there sometime this summer to visit the Center for American Values because I think it really will change your life. And to have our children understand the sacrifices of these men, our Medal of Honor recipients, that they took action when a situation presented itself and save lives, and we can take a lot of inspiration from that as we are engaged in this battle of ideas that is raging in our state and our country at this particular point in time. Also, I wanted to wish Mary Jansen a very happy birthday. She is one of the CUT board directors, and she's really a great friend, a great sponsor of the show, Jansen Photography. And it is her birthday. I'm pretty sure it's probably her 29th birthday. And so we want to say happy birthday to Mary Jansen. And my friends, we here in Colorado, we've got to do some real work regarding our elections. We have so many different vulnerabilities that we've got to look into those and we've got to check them out. And that is why we're We last year created the Colorado 2024 Election Project. And again, because of all of you, we were able to get those lawsuits filed regarding our elections, one through United Sovereign Americans, which basically said from their research that Colorado's not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress whatsoever. for elections it's a civil rights issue uh... the other with the wisconsin stand uh... the wisconsin center for election justice and that is uh... that uh... weekend we actually used at the peter bernie hers um titan technology and as of election day a very targeted list 14 500 people that should not have received ballots in colorado actually voted so we've got that going on there then we just recently helped holly casen raise the money for their appeal for their attorney's fees to stop this ngo lawfare and then we've got another project that's going to be starting as well very very soon And so be sure and just stay tuned on this because we have so many vulnerabilities. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. Very excited to have on the line with me John Zoller. He is the executive producer of of Exhibition Hub, a curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. He has honed his unique skills of production, visual art, and set design for more than 25 years while working in the museum, entertainment, retail, and attraction theme parts industries through his own immersive design firm, KRE8360. And he's done amazing different projects, including Titanic, which we're going to talk about, an immersive museum, Voyage, but Jurassic World, the exhibition, Bodies of the Exhibition, and let's see, Star Trek, the exhibition. Anyway, some really great projects. And John Zoller, welcome to the show. Thanks, Kim. Glad to be on. And so something big is happening in Denver tomorrow, and that is the opening of this exhibition, yes?
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That's right. Titanic and Immersive Voyage is opening in Denver this week. It's the most incredible telling of the Titanic story that I've ever been a part of. And over those 25 years you mentioned, which makes me sound a lot like I've done a lot more than I think I have, I've always worked on Titanic exhibitions. And so a couple of years ago, I put together a big collection of Titanic artifacts and said, how can we take these artifacts and and tell the story using all of that great digital technology that we've become so good at doing, and do it in a way that puts you in the story like never before. And I really think we've delivered on that in a very powerful and magical way.
SPEAKER 12 :
So is this the only place that you're doing this exhibition, or are there other places throughout the country?
SPEAKER 05 :
We actually have Titanic exhibitions in several parts of the world right now. So we're in Hamburg, Germany, and we're also in Atlanta, Georgia. We have another version of the show that's in Cincinnati and New Orleans, so we're definitely covering some ground.
SPEAKER 12 :
How did Denver get so lucky to have this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Denver's a great market, and it's a place that really celebrates culture and history and the arts. And so we had great success with our Bubble Planet exhibition, which is a very different experience from Titanic, where it's more play-based and inspirational. And we said, you know, let's come to Denver. And the interest so far has been really strong. The Titanic story is evergreen. It's one that we all see ourselves reflected in in some way. And in this experience, you're going to board the ship. You're going to become a passenger. You're going to experience those final moments of Titanic above water, and then you're going to get to dive to the wreck site through the magic of virtual reality and see the wreck like never before.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow, and I was looking at the information that your publicist sent over, and I guess I had not really realized this, that they found the Titanic in 1985, and it was really by accident, yes?
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's a great story. Dr. Robert Ballard... had for a long time wanted to find the wreck of the Titanic. He had an idea of where it was, but because of the depth, two and a half miles beneath the surface of the ocean, the equipment didn't exist really to scan to those depths or to send any cameras down. So he went to the Navy and he said, I've got this idea to find Titanic, but I need to develop this equipment. And they said, okay, we can do that for you, but you have to do something for us first. And that's go and locate two missing nuclear submarines before the Russians find them. This is during the Cold War. And so they built the equipment for Ballard. He went out on this mission that was supposedly to find the Titanic, but it actually had a covert part to it, which was discovering these submarines. He was able to find those subs and with a couple of days left, redirect the ships. And lo and behold, on the last day of the mission,
SPEAKER 12 :
they discovered the wreck of the titanic and it's very deep as you said two and a half miles it was uh over 12 000 feet right i i so uh i find that really fascinating so uh what are some of the images that he that he found that he saw there and you you can't dive that deep right it had to all be by cameras or what you so you can dive that deep in a submersible um
SPEAKER 05 :
It's typically a one-foot-thick titanium sphere that you go down in. But that wasn't the case for these first dives. These first dives were using surface sonar and scanning and then deep-water operational underwater autonomous vehicles that had cameras on them. So from that first discovery... there's an iconic shot of Titanic's bow that we've seen around the world, we've featured in our exhibit. It's the one that Ballard brought back that everybody said, wow, Titanic is still there. It still exists. It looks almost as beautiful as it did the day she set sail. And it just conjures up all this sense of exploration and adventure in the imagination of something so historic, something with such a great story around it, sitting there in that final resting place in the bottom of the ocean. And as I mentioned, in the virtual reality experience we have in Titanic and Immersive Voyage, you're actually, you can't dive that deep, but using virtual reality, you're standing on an open ocean platform at the depth, revolving around the bow section of the ship, and it's truly a magical part of the exhibition.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. This is absolutely fascinating. Now, where is the exhibit at here in Denver?
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's right, it's at 3900 Elati Street, which is where the Van Gogh exhibit was, where Bubble Planet was, and now Titanic and Immersive Voyage. It's very central in town. And if you go to expo-titanic.com, you can get all that information on how to get there and how to get tickets.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and that's expo-titanic.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
How long will the exhibit be here, John?
SPEAKER 05 :
We'll be here through the summer, and hopefully with the support of the community, we'll be able to stay longer. We know we've got a really amazing experience, and we've had such great turnout in Denver, so hopefully we can stay through the holidays.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it seems like that's a really interesting thing for people to do, always looking for things to do during the summer. And so that sounds like it would be a really great thing to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
From the top of the mountain to the bottom of the ocean.
SPEAKER 12 :
There you go. And so just tell me your creative journey. How did you end up doing this kind of work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, I did. I studied literature. I studied the classics. I studied set design. I always enjoyed putting on shows. But it was really my brothers that got me involved in this business. My brother Paul started his own production company when he was 16 years old in Cleveland, Ohio. And I worked with Paul on summers as a stagehand. kind of caught the bug when you do all this work and then suddenly the lights turn on and there's a crowd there or you walk through the experience at the end and you say, wow, this is an amazing way to tell a story. And as a storyteller, I just became so fascinated with it that I continued to pursue different types of theatrical work, different types of event work, and eventually got to the point where I was able to start working on the first exhibit I did, which was a Titanic exhibit that I did with my brother, Tom. And from there, we just continued to make exhibits since that time for over 25 years.
SPEAKER 12 :
And why do you have the fascination with the Titanic?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Titanic is the Greek tragedy of our modern era. So, you know, in a great tragedy, there's always a lesson to be learned no matter what age you are. There's always something in you that connects to part of the story. And I think that's why I'm so fascinated with it. I think that's why people are so fascinated with it is there's over 2200 people on board the ship. They all have these stories. You have all of this series of events that led you to get to that point in the ocean where the ship on its maiden voyage, the largest ship ever built that was supposedly unthinkable, meets an iceberg in the middle of the night. It's a story that can't be made up. It's so unreal, but it's also real. Wrapping your mind around all the different complexities of the story is something that continues to fascinate me and also the public. The thing is that the more I work on a Titanic exhibit, the more I become connected to another part of it. So I'm always learning different things about the ship every time I work on one of these experiences and always trying to bring that new storytelling to the new experiences I create. And with Titanic and Immersive Voyage, we have really done that in a way where using media, we place you on the bridge as the ice worms are coming in. We place you in the crow's nest trying to spot the iceberg. We place you in the boiler room as the iceberg breaches the side of the ship and the water starts pouring in. You're walking the corridors of the ship as it's starting to go down. We built the set so they're angled so you're actually going like the ship is sinking. And then we put you in a lifeboat as you, in our immersive experience, as you sit in the water and you watch Titanic going down by the head, sending out her last wireless messages, you become a passenger on board the ship through this experience. And it's a story that continues to fascinate us. And with this new technology, we've been able to take it to a whole other level.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's fascinating. How many people ended up perishing on the Titanic?
SPEAKER 05 :
Over 1,500 people lost their lives that night in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic. It's an incredibly tragic story. And about 715 were rescued by the rescue ship Carpathia. They had made it into lifeboats and were waiting out the frigid, cold, pitch-black night, wondering what their fate would be. And they... In the early morning hours, they saw the Carpathia coming across the horizon, and they said it was the most beautiful sunrise they had ever seen because they knew that there was going to be another one after that when they saw the ship, the Carpathia.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow, and I didn't realize there were these other companion ships or sister ships, the Olympic, the Britannic, and the Carpathia, and Californian. I didn't know about those.
SPEAKER 05 :
So that's part of the magic of Titanic and Immersive Voyage is we really broaden the lens on the storytelling so that we're not just talking about Titanic, but we're talking about her two sister ships, Olympic and Britannic, that were – the exact same size, basically the exact same ship built in triplicate. Titanic, we know what happened to Titanic. Britannic, unfortunately, also sunk very, very early in its life. It was commissioned to be a hospital ship during World War I and struck a mine in the Aegean Sea and went down in the Aegean Sea. Olympic, good old Olympic, traveled the ocean for 34 years, going back and forth, traveling hundreds of thousands of miles, carrying millions of passengers, including troops during World War I. So there's a lot to the story there, but also Carpathia was kind of a humble steamer that was more of a cruising ship. It was on its way to the Mediterranean, and it was operated by White Star Line, who owned Titanic, was operated by Cunard Lines, which was White Star Line's main competitor. But at that moment, there was nothing to do with competition. It was about the power of humanity. And Captain Arthur Rostron, when he heard that call in the middle of the night, redirected his ship and sailed it as fast as he could, weaving through an ice field to get to the Titanic's location and in order to rescue those passengers who had made it into the lifeboats.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. Okay. John Zoller. We're talking with John Zoller. He is the executive producer of Exhibition Hub and curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. We're talking about this exhibit that's going to open tomorrow here in Denver at the Lighthouse Art Space, which is at 3900 Elati Street here in Denver. And you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. We're going to continue the discussion. Absolutely fascinating. All these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website and sign up for their great golf tournament, which will be on May 15th. And that website is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And then also the website for the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo is AmericanValuesCenter.org as well. They'll be having a great on values presentation at the end of May. I'm talking with John Zoller. He's the executive producer of Exhibition Hub, which is a curator and distributor of world-renowned immersive exhibitions. We're talking about this exhibition that's going to open tomorrow here in Denver. And you can get more information and tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And this is regarding the Titanic. And, John, this is really fascinating, and how creative you are is just, I just love it. But I wanted to know, what was some of the most striking images that were captured by Ballard when he discovered the Titanic back in 1985?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really, there's a photo of the bow of Titanic, and it's covered in what are called rusticles. which is iron ore-eating bacteria that are slowly consuming the ship. But it comes down in this cascading way, almost like stalactites in a cave. And it's in this incredible spotlit blue light with all the black of the ocean around it. And what was so striking about that picture is that Titanic had started to fade a little bit from the common consciousness. And You know, people sort of started to forget about the story or think about the story as almost more in the sense of lore. And when that image came back of the bow of the ship on the ocean floor with all the sand around her, it almost looked like she was still sailing, like she was still moving forward. And it brought us back to say, wow, this story really happened. The ship is still there. A silent witness to that incredible night, April 14th, 1912. And now with all of the Titanic survivors having passed away, she's the final witness still there in the ocean floor.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and there's this amazing Denver connection with Molly Brown. So talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Molly Brown, in many ways, is the Titanic story. She was a go-getter. She was born in Missouri, moved to Leadville, Colorado, was working there, and met a fellow named J.J. Brown, who was an up-and-coming miner, very ambitious. He had an idea that the silver mines in Leadville had gold in them and came up with a way to extract that gold from those mines and came into incredible wealth. So now Molly Brown, has this great wealth. She's got this incredible personality. She was always somebody who championed the rights of those less privileged. She was always working to help those who had less. She was a huge advocate for women's rights as well. And she was furthering her causes, but she was also enjoying the luxuries that came with this great windfall from JJ's success. She was traveling through Europe and boarded Titanic at Cherbourg. A lot of wealthy passengers boarded Titanic at Cherbourg, changed their actual itineraries to be on this very celebrated ship, the largest ship ever built on her maiden voyage. And Molly was enjoying life at sea until that night, April 14, 1912, when she was able to get into a lifeboat and keep up the spirits of all those on board that lifeboat throughout the night. She was directing people to row to stay warm. She even wanted to go back and rescue some of those folks in the water, but she was overruled because, and this is the case with every lifeboat, the lifeboats didn't go back into the area where those who were still alive were in the water because everybody was terrified that people were going to swamp the boats that they were going to go over to. So that was really tragic for her. She connected with those folks and was rescued, was on the Carpathia. And by the time Carpathia got back to New York, she had started a fund for the victims, for the families of the victims who lost their lives, who were less fortunate. And by the time that they got back to New York, she'd already raised $10,000, which is a huge sum at that time. And that fund continued to grow and continued to support the families of the victims. She also was instrumental in celebrating and championing Captain Arthur Rostrand, who we wouldn't necessarily know as much about if it hadn't been for her. She wanted to make it clear that his heroism was the reason she still was alive. And she then used that platform of being now the unsinkable Molly Brown to further all of her causes, including women's rights, and raising the awareness to support and provide for those less privileged. She had an incredible life story, and she lived in Denver. She actually made a huge contribution to the building of the Sacred Heart Basilica in Denver. And her house is still in Denver, and it's an incredible museum. It's a wonderful place to visit. We actually are featuring some artifacts from the Molly Brown House Collection in Titanic and Immersive Voyage. And we'll have a partnership with the Molly Brown House where you can get a discount to our experience if you visit the Molly Brown House. And we're really thrilled to have that connection to be able to celebrate it in such a big way in Denver.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I remember the film The Unsinkable Molly Brown. It was made in 1964 with Debbie Reynolds. It's a great classic and recommend that people check that out as well because it's quite a story. Regarding the captain, tell me a little bit more about him.
SPEAKER 05 :
About Captain Arthur Rostron?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Captain Arthur Rostron was... He's a very special guy. You mentioned earlier the Californian. So the Californian was a ship that was only 20 miles away from the Titanic. Unfortunately, the radio operator had turned off the wireless radio at 11 o'clock, and Titanic struck its iceberg at 1140. The Californian was sitting there. Titanic was launching its rockets as distress signals. And they watched these rockets going off, and they said, oh, there's a Titanic. They must be having a party on board. Meanwhile, over 40 miles away, the wireless operator on Carpathia, who was just about to turn in, receives this distress message and immediately notifies the captain. And without even thinking twice about it, he turned off all the hot water on the ship. He turned off all the heat on the ship, redirected all the steam to the boilers, and started heading for Titanic. And as we mentioned, he was weaving through an ice field to get there, the same ice field that had the iceberg that sank Titanic, and made it there within two hours after the ship sank, just as the sun was coming up. And later when he was asked, how did you get through that night? How did you make it through that ice field? He's a very religious man, and he said, Someone other than me had their hand on the wheel that night. And he was someone who very rarely spoke about the Titanic tragedy. He just he did his duty and he. he was able to save those 750 passengers who were in those lifeboats.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, John Zoller, I am just thrilled that we got connected for you to share this. We've got about a minute left. I'm talking with John Zoller. He's the executive producer of this Titanic Expo. And you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And this is down at the Lighthouse Artspace in Denver, 3900. Eladi Street, your final thought. And I'm so, it's so great that you're sharing your creativity with Denver.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you so much. And, you know, I think that the Titanic story is one that appeals to all ages. There's a saying by an Irish writer, we are all passengers on the Titanic. And that is really true. There's something in each of us that's reflected in that ship. And I'm thrilled to share this with Denver and for everybody in Colorado to come and experience the Titanic story in a whole new way. We all know a little bit about it. This is an opportunity to take that knowledge and that experience to the next level.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, John Zoller, thank you so much. And again, you can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. And hopefully we'll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, Kim. I really appreciate it.
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indeed let's have a conversation welcome to our number two of the kim munson show and thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history thank you to the team producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy monday producer joe happy monday kim And boy, that was a fascinating interview regarding the Titanic exhibition that begins tomorrow here in Denver. And people can get tickets by going to expo-titanic.com. I think that sounds super interesting.
SPEAKER 13 :
I agree. I want to go and see it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. So definitely. That looks like that's something great to do this summer. And so check that out. Again, that website is expo-titanic.com. And... Let's see here. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're there. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. Love to hear from you. And thank you to all of you who support us. We look at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Colorado Union of Taxpayer website and join us. First of all, it's only $25 or $2.08 a month. It's a great tool to have in your toolbox. We need to understand, first of all, what's going on. And so know what's going on and we can help you. significantly with that also we invested in cut engaged where you can make your voices heard and we've added some additional bills there we do have that house bill 1312 which is the transgender bill which it's been watered down a bit it should just go away and you can make your voices heard about that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org I just click on cut engaged and then it is super easy to be able to weigh in on these different pieces of legislation. Our word of the day is immersive. And I chose that because of this immersive exhibition of the Titanic here in Colorado at 3900 Lottie Street. Immersive could be providing, involving, or characterized by deep absorption or immersion in something such as an activity or a real or artificial environment. And so your challenge is to use immersive, I-M-M-E-R-S-I-V-E, in a sentence today. And our quote of the day is by Napoleon. And I chose that because on Friday, we had Mark Schneider on, who's a historian who portrays both Napoleon and Lafayette at Colonial Williamsburg. And Napoleon said this, he said, the world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, by the weakness of the good. And so that's why we need to be stalwart and we need to be stepping forward and engaging in this battle of ideas that is raging. uh in our world today and that's why we do the show is because there are so many different issues that we need to understand and we want to get through the chaos and the confusion and get to truth and clarity and this happens because i get to work with great people And I'm talking with Roger Mangan of the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And, Roger, we recently talked about kind of the macro questions regarding claims. But what about when it's you, when it really matters and it's just your claim? What should people know?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, let's assume it's Hale because that's the primary enemy of insurance companies and the consumer in Colorado. You know, there was a time when Colorado was number one in terms of hailstorms. Now other states have taken over, and we discussed that in the last show we had. But let's take Colorado, for example, in 2022, losing $129 million between homeowners and auto, most of it being homeowners. So if you are—and I want the consumer to recognize this because I've talked to a few people that don't even think about this— If you're in Colorado and you buy a homeowner's policy from whatever company, you are in a large pool of other insureds. There could be 100,000 people or 300,000 people in your pool. So when the insurance company collects premium, in the case of State Farm in 2022, we had $129 million in losses there. And maybe we collected $110 million in premium. Well, obviously that $19,000... Or $19 million. $19 million, thank you. We can't sustain. So what you're going to do is get a rate increase the next year. And between hail and wildfires in Colorado, insurance rates have gone through the roof, as you all have experienced. The only way to mitigate that... is to probably go to higher deductibles. You cannot reduce the coverage on your house. As a matter of fact, you should be increasing that coverage because of construction costs and inflation and everything else that has riddled the U.S. economy over the last probably five years. I'm going to give you an example. I have a homeowner who has a $673,000 house insured. The premium was $3,270 a year. The new premium, and this is a wildfire area, went from $3,270 to $5,334, a $2,064 increase. Wow. Wow. I mean, it's like getting hit in the intersection blindsided when you get your next premium bill. So my goal as an agent is to sit down with them and say, okay, you have a 1% deductible. What would happen if you went to a 2% deductible? Your increase, instead of being up to $53.34 a year or $5,334, would be $47.81. That's a little bit of a savings. And you can go to a higher deductible even higher than the 2%. Let's say a 5%. So if you did that, your premium that was $32.70 in our first conversation at 1% deductible, you're at a 5% deductible, your premium would be $35.77. And your previous premium was $32.70. So the only thing I know that you can do, well, you can move out of Colorado. And a lot of people are, by the way. It's so expensive to live here. But I would talk to your agent, call them and say, hey, will you walk through this with me? Make sure I'm not overinsured. Make sure I don't have any gaps. And let's talk about my deductible. How can I save premium? And by the way, you could do a higher deductible for a couple of years until inflation goes down and then get back to your lower deductibles. And I think insurance premiums will stabilize here in the next couple of years.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, this is such important information, and it makes me think, Roger, to call your agent is so important.
SPEAKER 12 :
I really appreciate having real people, people I can trust to call on all these different issues. But what about if somebody is just buying their insurance over the Internet and they don't really have an agent, do they?
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No, you know, there are direct writers and indirect writers. So we're direct writers. State Farm, a lot of the companies out there do have agents, and you should deal with agents. And you should hold your agent to task. I mean, I think a lot of people think everything's on autopilot and everything's going to be just dandy, going to be okay. Your agent has a lot of people he serves, she serves. So the squeaky wheel gets the grease. You need to call your agent and say, I want a review. And they will give you a review. And you hold them. You say, where are my gaps? How can I save money? Now, I want to talk about something else. We talked about macro, micro. I want to give you an example of a claim that people really probably never think of. So it's a hailstorm. It hits your house, but they're little pea-sized hail. But you have maybe 12 inches of that hail in your backyard. It really piles up. So now the hail melts. It turns into water. The water goes into your window well. The water then goes into the basement. Is that a covered loss? No, it's not. Even though it was hail, the cause of the loss was water. So you need to look at your window wells, make sure that... You're doing your due diligence and trying to mitigate any potential in the example I just gave you. And I've had that claim, and it's a sad commentary when you tell people, I'm sorry, there's no coverage. It has to be water inside the house. They call it friendly water. It's from your toilet. It's from your dishwasher. You can spring a leak, your bathtub, whatever, shower. that's going to be a covered loss. But water coming from the outside is not covered. Wow.
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Wouldn't have even thought of that, Roger Mangan. Anything else to button this up?
SPEAKER 02 :
I'd like to hit about auto for a minute. Can we shift to auto? Sure. Okay. A lot of people do ask the question, am I targeted by an insurance company if I have a Speeding ticket, for example. And the answer is really no. What insurance companies will do is they'll do a hit on your motor vehicle every three years, usually. And if they see a cluster of tickets, they're going to contact your agent. Your agent's going to contact you. So you're not being... looked at or scoped out by your insurance company for a speeding ticket and it's not going to affect your rate in most cases only if you lose your life license or you have an accident as a result of a speed or some kind of violation i just want people to know that because i think people are nervous about that very concept okay that's good to know and for more information reach out to the roger mangan state farm insurance team like a good neighbor the roger mangan team is there
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And very pleased to have on the show as our featured guest in the second hour, Amy Everett with Colorado Praise. That's P-R-A-Y-S. And she and I ended up on an online meeting that Ben Williams with Ben's Plumbing, Heating and Cooling had put together regarding what's happening in Colorado. And I thought we need to get her on the show. It's been a long time since she's been on the show. And so Amy Everett, welcome. It's good to have you. Thank you, Kim. I'm glad to be here. Amy, there's so much going on in our world, but Colorado seems to be at the tip of the spear with much of the very really evil stuff that is going on. I was down at the Capitol for the hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee last Wednesday regarding House Bill 251312, which the bill has been watered down. But one has to ask, first of all, how a bill could even be introduced like this. And one of the parts of the bill was that if a child comes home from school and has gender confusion, and if parents don't affirm that, this bill would have allowed, and still may, but Child Protection Services to take the child from the family. This is downright evil, and we're realizing that in our schools there's been a lot of this gender confusion that is being presented through curriculum, after-school activities. We've got a lot of evil stuff going on in Colorado. Amy Everett.
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Yes, and it has a lot to do with the shift towards humanism, the shift towards the cancel culture. It's more of a systemic issue of God being taken out of schools, more and more people not engaging in church, not engaging in their power and authority as believers in Christ. And interestingly, across the state, there is a very strong movement of people turning to God. It's in the major cities where this ungodliness is thriving.
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Well, and I've heard reports that this are 20-somethings. Young people are really searching for the gospel, and there's been a real movement towards that.
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Definitely. Just last month in Colorado Springs, there was a stadium event where somewhere around a thousand some young people, high school age kids, gathered. And many, many of them came to the saving knowledge of Jesus. And the young people are indeed rallying. We're hearing that on college campuses. We're hearing it in high schools across the states. And that's really the vision of Colorado Praise and what is needed in this state is a shift in the spiritual climate of the state. When believers come together and pray and intercede together as one, the spiritual climate of a community can change and shift. And when the spiritual climate shifts, then those powers of darkness have less ability to control people, to bring bills like 1312 to our Congress. If more and more people pray and intercede, if more and more people turn to Jesus, there's going to be a greater focus on the gifts of the Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control. Those are all the things that cause people to flow in the ways of God, not be controlled by the demonic realm and flow in the ways of the world.
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Amy Everett, you mentioned humanism. And I've watched this through my life, the postmodernism, relativism. I remember the old saying, you have your truth, I have my truth. Well, there is real truth. And when I talk about on the show that we are searching for truth and clarity, we are searching for truth. real truth. Truth is not a, it's kind of like the Constitution. There's not living truth. Well, when I say I'm referring to a living Constitution, there is living truth in Christ, but the changeable truth, I guess that's what would be the word that I want to use. And so we've seen this shift, though, as we moved away, we're doing things in the society that that really are just crazy. But I think it's because we have moved away from the truth of Christ.
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That, and yes, and families have, with that focus on humanism, and there's been a shift in how the family operates. And that's what's caused more of the humanism, more of the transhumanism, more of the shift away from the moral biblical truth to relative truth. As you described it, my truth is my truth and yours is yours. That's the very self-centered focus rather than God-centered focus. When families are are told you can't discipline your kids, when families are, when children are told everyone's going to get an award, no one's going to shine as a star in this t-ball team, then nobody begins to, then the children learn that they don't need to strive for anything, they just need to participate. They don't need to beat, they don't need to excel at anything. When mom and dad can't discipline, the kids don't have to obey anybody. The kids don't have to, there's no sense of honoring your father and mother. There's no sense of honoring those older than you, honoring your elders. There's no sense of honor and respect. That has been taken out of our society because of this whole humanistic, let's all get along thing. and let's tolerate as long as you do what I want you to do, tolerate. And that's really where we are now. The progressive left, the liberal left claim that they are tolerant, but they're only tolerant if you agree with what they are espousing. And it's all part of the culture. And it's because God has been taken out of schools. It's because less people today go to church and honor the Bible and read the Bible and follow the principles of the truth of the Bible. If we can shift back, that will make a difference. If we can bring God back into the schools, prayer back into the schools, honor and respect, and just a simple return to being kind instead of learning to bully, instead of learning as kids to to dominate. It's just the shift has to, but from our perspective, the shift has to happen in the spirit realm before it's gonna happen in the natural.
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And Amy Everett, I think that there have been those that have had an experience with religion where it's been very legalistic, where it has rules and you do this and you do that. And that's not certain. It is a little complicated, but the bottom line is, first of all, is the gospel. And the gospel does not force. Christ certainly does not force himself upon others, but their religion can be used to be very legalistic. And so I think that there are those... that have maybe tried to undercut faith by looking at that legalistic component. And there are people that maybe have had a bad experience with that legalistic component as well. And that they say, oh, that if you're a Christian, people are trying to control your life. Well, actually, no. What we really saw through COVID was it was really, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that wanted to control our lives, to tell us what to do. And so out of the postmodernism, relativism, humanism, what we saw is it was really about control. And so address this control issue that there are those that struggle with looking at the Christian faith, how do you address that with people?
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Well, a pastor once said, you'll never find a perfect church because there are people in it. True that. And if you find a perfect church and you attend there, it's no longer a perfect church because we are not perfect. Right. So you're never gonna find a church that is 100% everything you think a church should be. That's kind of number one is our perception of what church should be and who we are. But the second is church isn't about relationships with the church. Church is about relationship with God. It's about how we interact and how we build a relationship with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We have to be intentional about our relationship with God before we step through the walls of the church, the doors of the church. Too many churches are about the business of church rather than the relationship of church. And many, many things are happening now through house churches where it's really about relationship. It's really about not the business of a building. It's about how you interact and how you engage with the culture around you, how you relate and engage with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in a relationship with them first. When we have a solid relationship with Jesus, when we can pray and have conversations with Jesus, when we are confident in the Word of God and who we are in the kingdom of God, it doesn't matter what church you walk into. You'll find God there in some way, shape, or form, but the church as a structure may not fit your concept of what a church should be. So it's up to each individual to build and establish their relationship with God first. Then they'll find a four-walled church that fits with you, or a place that isn't a four-walled church. One of the most powerful churches I have been in has several thousand people as members. They don't own a church building. They started out, they've only been around seven years, they started out by renting via gym of a school, of a high school, they started doing things as a church to support the school. And then they started supporting the middle schools. And they started doing so much for the school district that the school district came to them and said, we can't charge you rent anymore. They are now using Meet Weekly in a school auditorium and worship and positively support the local school district in a powerful way. They support 60 to 70 kids show up after school every day. High school kids show up after school every day to receive coaching and mentoring and just after school kind of a peaceful place to hang out because mom and dad are at home. That's church. That's people who, over a thousand people, who know their relationship with God individually, who don't go to a church building to be part of the church building, but who engage in ministry serving the community. And that's really my vision of what church should be. Not about bringing people into a building, although they need... churchgoers need discipleship. They need the support of a pastor and a leadership team who can guide them and support them and mentor them, but they need to be guiding and supporting and mentoring them into their gifting and calling so that every individual is a minister of the gospel.
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Okay, Amy, we're going to continue the discussion. I'm talking with Amy Everett with Colorado Praise, and that website is coprays.org. And this is really something that we need to be doing here in Colorado. And I want to talk about how she is working with others to really blanket our state with prayer, because we really need to. because this is an epic battle of good and evil that's happening in Colorado right now. These are such important discussions, and we have them because of our great sponsors, and I am so pleased to have as a new sponsor the Second Syndicate.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And join me and Teresa Irby, who is our partnership liaison, Thursday, May 15th. We're going to go out for lunch to the USMC. Memorial Foundation for their golf tournament. And you all can as well. If you're not a golfer, let's just all meet out there for lunch. And that is on May 15th. You can go ahead and buy your tickets for lunch or sign up for the golf tournament by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm talking with Amy Everett with Colorado Praise. And that website is coprays.org. Amy Everett, tell us, how did Colorado Praise come into being?
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Well, that came through Father Phil Eberhardt and myself having lunch. We were just kind of reconvening from years of relationship when I was leading the National Day of Prayer for the state of Colorado, talking about what prayer was doing or should be doing in the state. Out of that lunch, we decided to start 7 by 24 prayer across Colorado. And that was eight years ago. And currently we've engaged pastors, churches, and individuals in prayer initiatives to shift that spiritual climate. We're building a united, basically united strategic sustainable prayer movement that isn't reliable on really any, isn't dependent on leading it. It's individuals who are rising up to lead prayer in specific ways. We now have five ongoing statewide prayer initiatives, again, for both pastors and for whole congregations and for individuals. So it's been a long process of getting the word out, which is typically the biggest reason why people haven't engaged, they just haven't heard about us. churches can engage. We have what we call the Church Prayer Watch, and we ask pastors to host one 24-hour prayer watch every month on the same day. And currently, Kim, we've got 60-plus churches who have agreed to host a Church Prayer Watch. And with 60 churches, every day of the calendar is now covered in nonstop day and night prayer across the state of Colorado. And out of that, we're beginning to see signs of transformation, not only with the church prayer watch, but with the other four initiatives as well. But we're beginning to see signs of transformation. In Pagosa Springs, we have four church prayer watches in that tiny little town and a civic prayer team. And with the combination of those two, the leader of that civic prayer team has heard from God that when they have six church prayer watches in Podosa Springs area, the spirit of witchcraft will be broken over that region. And they're already seeing signs of witchcraft being broken. They've had a self-proclaimed witch come to the saving knowledge of Jesus and then go back to the coven, sharing the love of Jesus with her previous coven friends. We're seeing that shift. In Grand Junction, there's a move we have a civic prayer team there, and five church prayer watches in Grand Junction. And the city is beginning to see a movement of unity amongst the pastors that they haven't seen in a long time. The ministerial alliance is growing, and they're seeing a kindness initiative expand across the state, excuse me, across the county, Mesa County out there, where they are teaching kids in schools that it's cool to be kind. So the vision, as I said, the shift, the spiritual climate causes things to change in the natural realm. And that's our foundational prayer initiative is the Church Prayer Watch. So we also engage individuals.
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Go ahead, and then I have a question. I'll make a note here. I want to ask you about, so go ahead and finish that thought. Sorry about that, Amy.
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That's okay. So I mentioned the civic prayer teams. The goal of the civic prayer team is to pray specifically for the needs of the city. Pray for the needs of the city, pray for every city influencer by name. That means praying for the mayor, the police chief, the superintendent of the schools, the fire chief, the city council, the county commissioners, the key business leaders in town, and praying for every pastor in town. We have 26 civic prayer teams now covering various cities across Colorado. in prayer, and those are individuals who represent multiple churches, God willing, multiple generations and multiple ethnic groups. Our goal is to have a civic prayer team in every city across the state, and if any of the listeners are interested in starting a civic prayer team or engaging in one, you can find the information on the website, and you can request to start a civic prayer team in your community. Go into copraise.org.
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Okay. This is important work. And it's also important that we pray and that we're also engaged. You mentioned the word kind. And this is something that the left has been, they're very good about language. And it's been hijacked in some ways. To mean kind means that you don't, that you basically affirm whatever somebody else is doing. And so what then has happened is that the word kind has been used to, for example, affirm this transgender agenda. And when you use the word kind, kind doesn't mean that you affirm a non-truth. So address the word kind a little bit more so that when we talk about being kind to each other, what does that really mean?
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It means don't be a bully. It means don't force your opinions on other people. It means don't control another person's by your actions. At the grade school level, it means don't be a bully on the playground. Don't beat up other kids. Don't take their lunch money. Don't force them to do things they don't want to do. Kind is a biblical term of loving one another, which means not only being nice to them, it means being willing to hold other people accountable in love to truth. So being kind can mean telling someone that what they are doing is wrong. It can be telling someone or encouraging someone to seek biblical truth rather than truth of this world. And we need that in every sphere of society, which which leads to one of our other prayer initiatives, which we call the Field of Harvest Prayer Teams. That level of truth, that level of kindness, that level of accountability needs to exist in the education system, in the marketplace, in our government, in our military, in first responders, in arts and entertainment, in every sphere of society. And we have developed 13 Field of Harvest Prayer Teams each one on one of those topics. And individuals can engage with those prayer teams to pray for the education system. Or if your passion is life, you could join the life field of Harvest Prayer Team and pray for the issues of life. That's where when we are praying and very focused on praying and interceding for a topic, we can shift the spiritual climate around that topic so that individuals working and engaging in that topic can have clarity of mind and clarity of spirit in their beings to be able to flow in godly truth, not in the ways of this world. So that's the field of harvest prayer team.
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Okay. And there is at the website, a monthly prayer digest. And so, and all this is at Colorado, C-O-P-R-A-Y-S.org, C-O-P-R-A-Y-S.org. Amy Everett, this is really, this is really important. So people can get more information by going to your website. What's the final thought that you'd like to leave with our listeners?
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I would say that we are in a season of desperation, and we are in a season of expectant hope. We expect a mighty move of God, and I would encourage individuals to seek a strong relationship with God through reading the Word and praying, because now is the time when God is going to respond to the people of God, reaching out to him and standing firm on the word of God, rather than being in fear over the things that we see happening in the natural realm. Faith over fear is where we need to be right now.
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That is for sure, faith over fear. So more information, go to coprays.org. That's coprays.org. Amy Everett, thank you for all that you're doing for Colorado and every day. And I added on to my prayer list many more elected representatives as well after we had done that presentation today. that Ben Williams had put together. So I've added that into my prayer list as well. So thank you.
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Thank you, Kim. Thank you for what you're doing through the media. God bless you.
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Thank you so much. Amy Everett, yes, we're continuing to search for truth and clarity as we look at these issues because the evil one wants chaos and confusion. And that's why we need to get through all this. That's why we do what we do on the show is to try to get to the truth and clarity of these particular issues. And we get to do all this because of our sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I've had this on my list of things to do. Oh, before I get to that, Second hour, I want to wish Mary Jansen a very happy birthday. She is a fellow CUT Colorado Union of Taxpayer board member. She and Glenn have Jansen photography. Amazing. Have photographed memories for so many people over all these years. Appreciate that. She served on Lakewood City Council and really brought a lot of truth and clarity, I think, to many of those issues there. And I just want to say happy birthday to Mary Jansen. And then Jenny, one of our listeners, had texted this over. And I've never asked AI any questions yet. But this, she said that chat GPT, somebody asked them this. If you were the devil, how would you destroy the minds of the next generation? And this is what chat GPT said. And this is really kind of a take on the whole thing about Paul Harvey that he did many years ago on how to destroy America. But anyway, this is from chat GPT. And apparently the AI said this. That's a heavy and fascinating question. If I were answering from the perspective of the devil trying to corrupt or destroy minds, I think the strategy would be subtle, deceptive, and gradual. It wouldn't be something obvious like open evil. It would be slow erosion. And here's how I think the devil might go about it. Number one, normalize distraction. Flood their world with endless entertainment, noise, and notifications so deep thinking and reflection become almost impossible. Number two, blur truth and lies. Make it harder and harder to know what's real, leading people to doubt everything, including themselves and the existence of truth itself. Number three, mock virtue and celebrate vice. Turn things like humility, patience, courage, and honesty into punchlines or weaknesses while glorifying selfishness, vanity, and instant gratification. Next, promote isolation. Push young people to live online rather than in real communities, making real human connection rare, awkward, and even frightening. next redefine identity confuse them about who they are at the deepest level mentally morally spiritually so they chase after a thousand different false selves and my gosh what could be more than that than trying to have children question whether or not they're a boy or a girl Then lastly, it says, destroy hope. Convince them that their lives are meaningless, that the future is doomed, and that trying to live well or do good is pointless. And chat GPT finishes this. If you rot the foundation, the structure eventually falls on its own. And then it says, would you want me to write it even darker or even more realistic, depending on what you had in mind? I think that that I think that was just fine. I think that pretty well sums it up. And so we have seen so much of that happening in our world, although after talking with Amy Everett, I also see a good, a lot of good things that are happening. But we have to be disciplined and understand what's going on. So normalizing distraction. You know, turn the TV off, turn off the phone, be sure and sit down, and this is my recommendation in devotion, prayer, and Bible reading. But blurring truth and lies, oh my gosh, over all these years, when we started to hear this relativism of your truth is your truth, my truth is my truth, then there is no truth. And it devolves where we are now, that have people questioning whether or not they're a boy or a girl, a man or a woman. And then in this society, actually using government funds here in Colorado to either surgically or pharmaceutically cut off the breasts of our young girls, the penises of our young boys. It's unbelievable. But also I've seen this, mock virtue and celebrate vice. Another thing on that is to no longer to recognize excellence. For example, Cherry Creek Schools no longer has a valedictorian or salutatorian. Is that how you say it? I can't remember how you say that. And obviously I wasn't that excellent. and then promote isolation oh my gosh we saw that during covid and then destroy hope and without hope it's very difficult to live life so um so anyway uh i thought that that was pretty poignant and and we heard this from mark came came in on the text line uh that there is only one truth and um and we need to search for that truth and clarity and all that we do So there's today and tomorrow are the last days of the Colorado legislative session. I know many may breathe a sigh of relief. And yes, that's true. But they've put so many things into place through unelecteds, these boards and these commissions. and put a lot of power into these boards and commissions as well. And I think that we really need to start to roll back these boards and commissions. I think our elected representatives need to be held accountable for the decisions that are made. And I talked about this earlier. Let me see if I can get to the right headline. That these appointees that the mayor had appointed here in Colorado, or excuse me, in Denver, He is giving many of them double-digit raises, some as much as 30 to 40 percent. In this time where Denver is in decline, Denver has become dirty, it's become dangerous. The economic forecast for Colorado, because of these policies of the radical activists that control the statehouse, control many of our city councils and as mayors as well. We actually need to pay attention. So as Amy says, first of all, I think we need to pray for our state, but we also need to be engaged. While we are here on this earth, we need to be doing what we can to make sure that we pass on to the next generation this vision of our founding. that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so what that means is that whether or not it is a piece of legislation down at the statehouse or if it is a city ordinance, that always we need to make sure that we are honoring that vision of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And that is what has made America so unique in all of history, is that we were founded on this idea that and then had the Articles of Confederation because the founders were so concerned about centralized power that they'd seen from the monarchy that they realized centralized power is what is so dangerous. And so we've seen this march over this last 250 years, this march towards centralized power. And we need to put government, all of it, back in its appropriate, proper role. And we only could do that by electing people, as when we talk with Jay Davidson, not Republican or Democrat or unaffiliated, any of that. We need to be electing people that believe in limited government instead of big controlling government. And so we have our work cut out for us because what happens is, and I saw it when I was on city council, is well-meaning people get into office and they forget that they are there to represent their constituents and to uphold this vision of of all people are created equal, so every law must treat everybody the same. None of this income-based government programs, because that's antithetical to the vision of America and also much of us getting out of the proper role of government. But and and then make sure that we are adhering to that at the local, county, state and national level. The other thing is, is they realize the Articles of Confederation did not have broad enough power. And so they created the Constitution. And the Constitution is in place so that we can handle our differences by going to the ballot box. And instead of having to pick up arms the way mankind used to settle differences. And so that is why this Constitution, the original Constitution, is worth conserving and preserving as well. So that's why we do all of this on the show. And while I mention the Constitution, let's start to think about Constitution Week up in Grand Lake. They are working on planning on that now. That's in September. And so be starting to think about that and maybe even making some of your room reservations while you're going to be up there. But the Constitution of the United States was put in place so that we can settle our differences by going to the ballot box and electing representatives to represent us to protect these principles of our founding of our Declaration, through our founding of the Declaration of Independence. So 250 years ago, a lot was happening regarding the birth of America. And so there's a lot happening right now. I believe we're in our third founding of our country. And that's why engaging in this battle of ideas is so important. And so we've got a great week planned for you. So be sure and join us. This second hour, we'll rebroadcast tonight, 10 to 11 p.m. And of course, everything goes to podcasts as well. But our quote for the end of the show is from Napoleon. He said this, impossible is the word found only in a fool's dictionary. Wise people create opportunities for themselves and make everything possible. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode, Bill is joined by Barry Kite to delve into the intricacies of technology stocks, with a spotlight on companies like Palantir and NVIDIA. They explore the potential impacts of trade negotiations between the U.S. and China, while also providing updates on quarterly earnings reports from major corporations. Bill emphasizes the need for strategic investment decisions in light of recent market recoveries and advises listeners on the importance of diversifying their portfolios.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Monday morning. It is Monday, 5-5-25. And we are off on the wrong foot so far in the market after a huge day on Friday, however. We're down just a little bit here so far. This is Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and this is the Best Docs Now show. The Dow is down 123 right now to 41,193, but it has made up all of its losses since so-called Liberation Day. The NASDAQ is down 135. We've got a lot of earnings coming in still this week. The NASDAQ is at 17,833, but it has been on a torrid run here. And meanwhile, the S&P is down 39 points, which equals 68 basis points. It's at 5,647 points. We have gold is having a good day. A little money going out of stocks into gold. I think gold probably on this pullback last week is a pretty decent entry point on gold right now. Gold is at 3,325. It's up 2.5% so far. Silver's at $32.52. HiHo Silver away. 10-year is down a little bit. The 10-year's sitting at $4.32. The big story again is oil as OPEC votes to increase output. Go figure. And oil is down 1.4% to $57.48. Welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. Barry, the biggest story we've got to lead with here is... Not only did we get folks back to where they started from before Liberation Day, but we gave out the winner of the Kentucky Derby in the last message we sent out on Friday. That was a bonus to all subscribers. And I did pick and did have a little wager. I had 20 to win on him. We had like $32 in our account at whatever it is. I haven't used it in years. And I put 20 to win on the nose of Sovereignty.
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Sovereignty, yeah.
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Who I thought would be the biggest closer in the stretch, and he did. He was by far the best horse. Now, he is owned by Godolphin Racing Stables, which is Sheikh Al Maktoum. who is the leader of Dubai. He's quite a horse racing fan, and I guess a lot of the taxpayer money there goes into it. They have a huge worldwide horse racing operation, not only in thoroughbreds but also equestrian horses. But it's always good to watch that Kentucky Derby on a sloppy day in Louisville. And it's sloppy.
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It's better to watch it on TV than this last go around.
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My wife said, I'm glad we didn't go this year. Her hair does not like humidity like that in rain. So anyways, okay, we're starting off the market. We finished the market up. Wow, Friday was an explosion to the upside, and that has its good points and it has its bad points. The Dow was up 564 on Friday. The NASDAQ was up 267, okay? The good points are is that the market has now gained back everything since that fateful day on March the 8th I wrote my article the very next day, and boom, we've had the biggest rally in 20 years. Okay, that's a good thing. The bad thing is a lot of the valuation disappeared out of the market very, very, very quickly. We're no longer at those very juicy forward P.E. ratios, number one. And number two, individual stocks. Palantir comes to mind. Netflix comes to mind. They're back to where they were at those lofty levels that they were at before all of this began. And so I think you have to step very carefully right now in the market. I surely would not be putting new money right now into a stock like Palantir. That's just me. Okay. It's come a long ways in a short period of time. It's now $268 billion in market cap. It still has a bright future, but it's at a very, very rich valuation right now. I mentioned Netflix because it, too, is at a very rich valuation, and you see that there's going to be a tariff. If you download an American movie in a foreign land, you're going to pay a tariff, and that's going to hurt, I would think, Netflix.
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Potentially vice versa, what it does, it'll be more expensive to create content because apparently in terms of not really sure exactly how it's going to work. I heard some executives talk about it this morning. It's essentially a message on true social, I think, from the president. But it'll be interesting to see how it works. I think Netflix was down about 4% on the news early this morning. I don't know what it's sitting at at the moment.
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Yeah, it's done well for us. I mean, it's come a long ways in a long period of time. I don't think I want to have too much of a concentration on any one stock or any two stocks or any three stocks. I want to kind of keep my wrist spread out a little bit because there's still some heavy lifting to do in the new agreements, right? Right.
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Everything's very fluid at the moment.
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Yes. Okay. So having said that, though, you can see what my market outlook in the newsletter. I updated my target price, and we do have a lot of earnings coming in. But really, the big story is going to be on Wednesday. Do you think there's any chance whatsoever that Jerome Powell swallows his pride? But look, I think even without the Trump comments, very few people would expect a rate cut. I think we're due for one, but I don't think you're going to get one. Do you think there's any chance at all on Wednesday of a rate cut?
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Yeah, I mean, when you look at the problem, obviously if he wanted to get some heat off his back, he certainly would just give a quarter point, right? Market has a 3% chance of a quarter point cut, 97% chance that we stay where we are.
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97%?
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Oh, that's not very good.
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That's like that horse that came in 20th.
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with covered in mud you know that's not a very good chance did you see the layer of mud on those even the winter horses i mean it was yeah so i saw one race i think one of the prelim races where you know somebody one horse led from from start to finish not a not a little dirt that's the way to do it if you can pull it off yeah
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But anyways, okay, so we've got the stock down today. We're awaiting the Fed's decision on Wednesday. The market would certainly celebrate. Investors would celebrate. He would be in good standing with Trump again, right? Jerome Powell. But, you know, I have a hard time seeing him coming through. I think we're due for one. I really do. I think inflation has drifted away. But you do have the fear of inflation. uh coming and you know it's going to hit the fan this week the the trading has come to a standstill between us and china and it's going to start showing up on the shelves it's going to start showing up in the prices on amazon uh i haven't seen any evidence of it yet but i mean it's just a matter of time before we start seeing higher prices on a lot of goods okay because i saw one have you seen something
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I saw one freighter right in on the Wando side this weekend. I think I saw one on the other side as well.
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That's not much. We usually have six or seven.
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Right.
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I saw two leaving the port on Friday. We were at the party at the point on watching a Grateful Dead cover band. They're pretty popular around here. They're reckoning. And as we were watching the music, and it's funny to watch the deadheads spinning and twirling, and even the kids, even the little kids are spinning and twirling. And we were just enjoying a night out and listening to some music, and I saw two freighters leaving. I don't know if they were leaving full. Or empty. There's no way to know what's in those containers. But they were leaving with quite a few containers still on them. So I don't know where that stands. Now, okay, Asia stocks gain on China's potential U.S. trade talks. They are coming closer and closer. And that's what really set the market off on Friday. was news that, you know, the groundwork is being laid. I can tell you this, that on the other side of the pond in China, factories have come to a halt. And, you know, ships are not being loaded in China. So this is all coming to a head here. And I would think that China's in a lot worse shape than we are. That's just one of the whole situation. And I know that our Treasury Secretary, Scott Besson, would agree with that. He thinks that their situation is unsustainable in China. Now, Europe, on the other hand, their index has little changed. As investors read trade developments, we have not heard of any new trade deals coming from China. from Canada, Mexico, Europe, India, China, Pakistan, you name it. But they're being worked on, and I have an update on a few. Okay, more on all of this when we come back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show update on earnings season. A very important update on earnings season. We now have, I want to say 73%, 72% of the companies in the S&P 500 have now reported earnings. With quite a few left here this week, we'll get to those in a bit. 76% have reported a positive earnings surprise and 62% have reported a positive revenue surprise. For me, the big number was that we're now up to 10.1%. 10.1% growth, which is up from 7.2% two weeks ago. So we've really had an excellent quarter. But I think there's a caveat here as I think about it, Barry. We've talked about this a lot, and that is that front loading. You know, look, all these companies that needed parts and whatnot, on the one side, maybe they front loaded their expenses, loading up on inventory. And on the other side, though, I think it helped earnings more than it hurt earnings. But having said that, this has been a very, very good earning season. And much better than expected. And that leads me to the conclusion that the market really kind of over... uh worried about tariff concerns i mean even the companies i'm seeing report today like a tyson foods which is pork chicken etc saying that they're not being impacted by tariff concerns or tariffs so yeah i think there's a lot in the direct line but overall i don't think it's had a minimal impact on the overall earnings for the s&p 500 now it could get tougher going forward But hopefully we get something worked out here. fairly soon the forward pe ratio of the s&p goes up to 20.2 okay that's the negative this big run that we've had we got down into the 17 area i want to say here recently we got as high as what close to 23 right yeah 23.8 or something now we're at 20.2 about where it belongs maybe a little bit i i kind of think this is a 21x market right now So we have a little bit, but a lot of that easy money has been made here over the last four weeks. Now, coming up this week, of course, we had some monster reports. Microsoft and Meta were excellent reports last week, and there were others sprinkled in there.
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Of course, Apple and Amazon, in terms of capital, In terms of market cap, not as great of a report certainly as in Microsoft.
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And Warren Buffett was extolling the virtues of Apple, which he claims has made him a lot of money since he bought it. But lately, I just don't think it's a very good stock. Myself, it's still their biggest holding at Berkshire Hathaway. And, of course, he announced his retirement.
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Over the weekend, yeah, that was kind of surprising. I was watching it rain leading up to the Kentucky Derby, and the news kind of popped, came out at the end of his. They had, of course, the big deal in Omaha over the weekend. It's interesting. There's been case studies done for years. Years ago, if Warren Buffett passed away, I think the stock was wrote down potentially 20%. And, of course, you know, he's built his legacy, and he's kind of passed it on to other handlers. And so, in this sense, it's, you know, what stock I think was down maybe 3% when I saw it earlier today. He sounded pretty rough for the first time.
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You know, did you hear his voice? Maybe he had a bad cold, but look, he's 90-something, right? He's in his early 90s.
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Yeah, I think 90, isn't he 99 or 90? No, he's not that old.
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I know Munger was a few years older. Munger was older. Munger was approaching 100, but I hope I can make it. I hope I'm still sitting here. Now, you know, Barry's there sitting there drooling, looks at my desk. No, I'm just kidding. He's ready and able, just like Greg Abel, right?
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Greg Abel's taking over. Oh, Abel.
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Yeah, right, Abel.
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94.
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He's 94 years young as Warren Buffett. Yeah, 94 years young. Man, that's just incredible. Okay, Monday. Here's the earnings that are going to come in this week. Don't expect much from Ford. Ford's going to report today, May the 5th. Palantir's reporting today. Wow. Oh, gosh. You know, that's a tough way. If Mondays aren't hard enough and stressful enough, we've got to wait through Palantir's earnings after the close of the market. That could go either way, you know. I mean, here's the problem. Palantir's come a long ways in a short period of time, and it's a very expensive stock, which makes it vulnerable. Cummins Engines has reported already. Tyson has reported already. Mattel is going to report. Now, tomorrow we're going to get AMD. That could be interesting. AMD is a candidate, obviously, for the value, relative value portfolio, which Warren Buffett would not like a relative value portfolio. He's a pure value, intrinsic kind of guy.
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Deep value.
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Deep value. Deep value. They still love Coca-Cola. I mean, they still love a lot of pretty soggy stocks, in my opinion. You know, maybe able... The railroads. I mean, it could use a little freshening. We'll see what Abel does if he adds any of the stocks of today or kind of holds on to the Coca-Colas of the world. On Tuesday, AMD... Let's see, Lucid, which is EVs, Datadog, Archer Daniels Midland, Rivian, okay, that's another EV maker, Marathon Petroleum. Then on Wednesday, Disney. Which is a really soggy company these days. Really, really soggy. I mean, it's a 1% over the last 10 years. That's what it's averaged under the current leadership. Barrick Gold's going to report. Uber, that's a good one. That's a stock of today. Let's see, anything else? APA, Novo Nordisk, which has their oral drug submitted to the FDA. They may be the first one to get that oral drug approved. I don't think Lilly has submitted theirs. They've been getting good results, but I don't think it's submitted yet. On Thursday, you get Shopify. That's a big one. ConocoPhillips. DraftKings. CloudFlare, which is one of the better software stocks out there in the cybersecurity world. Anheuser-Busch. Then on Friday is Enbridge. Yeah, but there's still a lot, but most of the big ones have... have reported, and of course, it's been a much better earnings season than we anticipated. We'll be right back.
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I don't say the right thing.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Now, okay, Apple has been one of Buffett's biggest winners. He doesn't consider it a tech stock. He considers it a consumer good stock, and I think that's probably the correct way to look at it. Now, over the last 10 years, Apple's had a good run. There's no question about it. because there was a lot of innovation and new upgrades that were very desirable, and the stock has beaten the S&P 500 over the last 10 years with a 21.7% gain over that period of time. Over the last five years, it's beaten the S&P 500 with a 24% gain, but it's starting to slow down big time. Decelerate is what I call it. You know, from a momentum point of view, deceleration is not good. Buffett doesn't care about momentum. Buffett doesn't care really that much about growth. I mean, he's more, where does the value, what is the valuation as it relates to the growth? or to what Apple owns, which that's not really a big consideration with Apple. It's more about the products they have. He likes companies that have dominant positions. Over the last 12 months, Apple's up 21.9%. My problem is going forward. I think it's a single digit grower. And, you know, I think it proved that when it reported its earnings. Was it Friday that Apple reported its earnings? I think so.
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Yeah, it was after the close on Thursday. Thursday, okay. Yeah, we had the Thursday close, so we didn't talk about it until Friday's show between Apple and Amazon.
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And the stock is down 3.4% today, which isn't very good. And, you know, their sales were up 5%.
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5%.
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So it's entered that Coca-Cola-like territory of single-digit growth.
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And in the middle of the China battle, too, by the way. I mean, in the middle, in the right... smack in the middle of that deal. No matter if they build, you know, they're talking about, of course, moving production to Indian, basically U.S. All their production. iPhone. Well, I think what they said is their iPhones that end up making it to the U.S.
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Oh, that's right. That's right.
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may come from India, but then the remainder elsewhere. But they're still in the middle of whether they're trying to sell to Chinese consumers or whether they're trying to build them there and ship them elsewhere. They're still right in the middle of that.
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And they lost a lot of their market share in China to Huawei, who Jensen Wang says is the most formidable company out there in China, tech company. Because not only have they dominated Apple in the mobile phone market, but now they're nipping at NVIDIA's heels. And I think they might have something that's a serious competitor. We'll see.
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Well, and that's the other thing, right, with Apple is they've been behind on the AI front. I mean, the best way to show you how far behind they are is they're basically going to – it sounds like they're going to really rely on Gemini. Yeah, Gemini from Google. Yeah, that's weird. They're going to really use them, which is weird with the Android store, right, that whole thing on the Google side. It's a weird mix. And so you know if they're going that route, then that tells you that – They're behind.
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Yep, and I don't think there's much innovation there. And their earnings were up 8%. Okay, so we don't own Apple at all. And anybody who transfers to their portfolio, unless they tell me, don't sell my Apple. You know, I sell it. I just don't think it's the best stock now. Even though it is the second, let's see, it's the second biggest market cap company out there. Microsoft took over $3.23 trillion. $3.23 trillion is Microsoft. And Apple is 2.98. So all of a sudden, Microsoft has pulled away. And, of course, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were always competitors with each other. I mean, they still are today, the late Steve Jobs. Apple and Microsoft still duke it out. uh for the top spot in market capitalization i prefer microsoft myself and the time has shown that microsoft is a more dominant or more innovative they're still innovating chat gpt just you know two years ago ignited this whole ai uh business okay now other things uh here to uh talk about here let me get back to my notes here on the on on this week we've got uh apple okay we talked about that coca-cola features prominently at the berkshire hathaway meeting once again the legendary investor uh defended his well-known junk food diet while sitting with two cans of coca-cola and a box of seized chocolates in front of him Now, there's something we have in common with Warren Buffett. I am, personally. I grew up with See's Candies in the house. You know, my mother and father and See's being, I think, in California Company. I don't know if it still is, but it was. Yeah. Look, that junk food diet has been okay to Warren at 94 years of age. I've been able to drink whatever I like to drink. He likes, I think, Cherry Coke, I think. I drink Diet Cherry Coke myself. And if I have these chocolates around, they're the best. There's no question about it. Okay, so he did announce his retirement. Palantir is well-positioned for new federal spending environment. That's Wedbush. They've always been a big fan, a cheerleader. They've been a big fan of Apple, too, of Palantir. Palantir is set to report first quarter earnings after the close of trading. They are helping to lead the AI revolution into the use case phrase as its AIP product moat is unmatched. They're saying that they have a large moat around them as a company that, And even though the Doge is cutting an estimated $165 billion from the federal budget, Palantir is not on the dark side of the cuts, according to Wedbush. Now me, at this level, Palantir, I would not be putting new money into it right now as it is very, very expensive. It's only down 1.3%. The P.E. ratio is 303 right now. There ain't no way Abel, he is not ready and able to add that to the Berkshire portfolio at 300. I think if he did, Buffett would have a heart attack, and that would be it. Rest in peace, Warren Buffett, volunteer.
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303.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Now, did you look at their – I mean, and here's the thing. I mean, their earnings could be blowout earnings. We could look at them and think they're fantastic, and the stock could go down, right? I mean, you look at their – in terms of earnings raises, there's been – over the last 90 days, I saw where there's been 12 analyst earnings upgrades, right, in the name. So that tells you that expectations seem to be pretty high, right? And so we'll see where we end up. I think it will be a good report. It just depends on how good.
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Yes, very interesting today. And it is trading optimistically. I mean, with the NASDAQ being down, it's down just one. Now, look, it got up to 125 here recently. That was the high in mid-February, okay? That's when everything was peaking. And then along came the Canada and Mexico tariff announcement, and it went down to 66 from 125. That shows you how vulnerable this stock is at this level. To go from 125 to 66, that's a 45% drop, okay? 47 somewhere in there. It lost half of its value at that point in time. And then it finally bottomed at that level in early April on that fateful April 8th day when things looked as dark as they could possibly be. And it, too, like the NASDAQ, has recouped everything it lost. Really, Independence Day, I don't look back at Independence Day as the bottom of the market. It was previous to that. It was a few weeks prior to that when he first announced the 20% tariffs on Canada and Mexico. No exceptions. It was banned. And that sent it down. And that Friday is when the market bottomed.
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Yeah, because you had February. I mean, essentially, what, February 17th, 18th, around there was the top. And then, you know, we didn't have Liberation Day until, you know, 4-2, I think, right? April 2nd, somewhere around there. And so, you know, you look at that.
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Well after that.
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It was a month and a half in between, right?
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Okay, so anyways, now, all right. So Palantir tonight, that could be very interesting. Now, okay, when we come back, we're going to talk about NVIDIA because the lawmakers, Congress is trying to pass a bill to keep it out of China's hands. To stop the smuggling, there's smuggling going on of NVIDIA chips, believe it or not. And Congress wants to bring a halt to it. We'll be right back. We'll give you an update on NVIDIA. And then a small hyperscaler, that's the stock that's built.
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You got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do with it forever.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. As I look at Nvidia now, we have the lawmakers trying to... Stop the smuggling. I don't know how you do that. A bill's not going to stop the smuggling. It's going to take something else, figuring out who's smuggling it, which borders it's going through, et cetera. But if you look at the valuation, NVIDIA is trading at 20 times earnings, forward earnings. And Palantir's trading at 164 times forward earnings. Is Palantir really that much better than NVIDIA, 164? Is it growing that much faster than NVIDIA? To me, at this level, the better buy is NVIDIA, but that's just me. NVIDIA is down just a hair here this morning.
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Peg ratio under one. I know Warren would like that in terms of NVIDIA.
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What's the peg ratio on Palantir? It's got to be nosebleed, right? I see it as a 25% grower. That puts it around six, six and a half. Well, the app has it. I can look it up on the app. The PEG ratio is the PE.
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No, I mean, they're forward. Yeah, I mean, it's 34% earnings growth for 2025, 25% for 2026. And so, yeah, you've got a 224 forward PE ratio. Then that's not a fantastic PEG ratio. No, that's a very expensive PEG ratio. And can they grow into the multiple? Certainly, but that's what we've got to see, right? I mean, that's what we're, you know, that's why we're attention to earnings.
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Okay, all right. Now, here's the stock of the day, GPUS. At least it was this morning. Let me check on it right now. GPUS. It's still hyperbolic. Oh, my goodness. It's quadrupled. It's up 313%. It's called Hyper Scale Data. There's some excitement in Las Vegas, Nevada today. They own and manage a data center and provide mission-critical products for for defense and aerospace. Now, it must have some news on it that is driving this gain. Let's try to find the news here. What is it? GBUS, okay, GBUS. Yeah, GBUS. gpus okay that's a good symbol gpus and uh the news on it is man it's quadrupled here so far this morning that's exciting somebody knew something there i want to know okay let's see hyperscale reports a preliminary 25 million dollar revenue for q1 That's the only news there is. That must have really been a lot more than expected. You'd have to go through who the $25 million came from, blah, blah, blah. But it's only an $8 million market cap. $8 million market cap. Okay, so it's not very big. But it's up 300%. Let's see here. Anything else? Tyson Foods has reported earnings. They back full-year guidance. It skips any mention of tariff or economic pressures. They just totally didn't even bring it up. And I'm finding that with a lot of companies. And another one you would think would be impacted by the tariffs, Cummins Engines, CMI, is having a good report. Cummins Engines is up $2.43, almost 1% CMI. They beat earnings by $1.11. That's pretty good for a big industrial stock, and I'm sure it's in the S&P 500. So good report, continues that string of good reports. And last but not least, MicroStrategy, which renamed themselves MicroStrategy, MSTR. Their whole business plan is buying Bitcoin.
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With leverage.
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I've seen several. Yeah, I mean, they're floating bonds to buy Bitcoin. Is that a good foundation? I don't know. Only time will tell. And I've seen other companies adopt that business model. They were failing at what they were doing. Though they said, hey, let's just start accumulating Bitcoin as a company.
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GameStop recently, remember? GameStop was the one that announced that. On hyperscale data at GPUS, here's the thing. As you always mention, stocks follow earnings. So their guidance, they passed the $25 million mark right in revenue. Their guidance for the full year, by the way, went from between now $115 million and $125 million. So I believe they raised the guidance.
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For revenue? For sales? Right.
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That's just for revenue. But eventually, maybe they'll have earnings.
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Well, if this market cap is right, it's trading at a minuscule price-to-sales ratio. I mean, with those kind of sales, you've got to look into this thing, right? There's more to this story than the eye can see. Now, okay, so we are headed to Cleveland now. This is the fifth. Two weeks out, actually, to Warrensville, Ohio. And Edie is taking names. I'm teaching a workshop Tuesday night in Cleveland there in Warrensville at the Marriott. And we're meeting with folks on Tuesday and Wednesday from 6 a.m. till 7 p.m. How about that? No, from 7 p.m. till 6 p.m. I got that wrong. Take no rest for the wicked. And if you would like to make an appointment with us, this is a rare opportunity to meet with us in person and get some advice. Question us. Meet with us. Behind closed doors, we'll talk about your situation. Call Edie at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. And I still offer out my free four-weeks. of the newsletter, the app, access to the app, and everything I do during the day, except eat lunch, just about. You know, all my observations on the market, any purchases, buys or sells, transactions we make in any of the six portfolios that I manage. To get a four-week trial to the newsletter, no obligation. Go to GundersenCapital.com, GundersenCapital.com. and sign up for that four-week trial. The app is on the Apple Store, Best Docs Now. It's in the Android Store. It's got a different name there. I can't remember the name of it because they wouldn't let me use the word best in the name. Google is really something. I mean, that's a whole other story. Anyways, an appointment with us at 855-611-BEST or the free four-week trial at GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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Celebrate National Small Business Week with Angie as she brings to light stories from the entrepreneurial world. With insights from Aaron Stark of ADP Small Business Services, discover the challenges and triumphs of small business owners. Tech trends, from AI to streamlined operations, are changing the landscape for these enterprises. Hear how adapting to new technology and finding the right talent impacts the success of these establishments. Throughout the discussion, listener engagement is sparked by understanding how small businesses are truly the backbone of the economy. Appreciate the crucial role they play and learn how businesses can leverage incentives and manage compliance in a rapidly evolving market. Stay tuned for empowering insights that are sure to inspire current and aspiring entrepreneurs.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Angie Austin here with The Good News along with Jim Stovall. We're speaking about his Winners of Wisdom column. This week it is Listening and Understanding. Welcome back, Jim. Always good to be with you. Okay, so you've been traveling and speaking. How is all of that speaking stuff going?
SPEAKER 04 :
It is going great. I spent my hour on stage yesterday, actually, for a credit union banking convention thing. And it is good to be back out in front of people and doing that. And I didn't realize how much I missed it until the pandemic kind of took over everyone's lives. So it's great to be back out there.
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Yes. One of my friends, Ross Schaefer, is a speaker as well, and he traveled extensively prior to COVID. And boy, talk about an industry being completely shut off, like the water or electricity being turned off. I mean, it wasn't just a drip. It was nothing during COVID. So that's not a very easy work from home kind of thing, public speaking. You can still do Zoom meetings, et cetera, but it's not the same as a full auditorium, I'm sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. I mean, yeah, I did a number of those, but doing them from my conference room or my living room at home certainly leaves a lot to be desired.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Okay, so in listening and understanding, what are you teaching us this week?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we live in a world where it's so easy to... converse with people or communicate with people but we need to realize just because we're talking doesn't mean anybody's listening and even if they're listening it doesn't mean they're understanding and you know and there are So many permutations of that. So many people think a conversation is I'm waiting until you take a breath so I can jump in and say what I want to say. Or, as contentious as the world has gotten, Angie, a lot of people are just waiting for you to say something that they can disagree with and dismiss you from that moment forward. And I have a good friend in Washington. We've worked together for 25 years through the Department of Education. And she knows I'm totally blind. And she sent me a photo. And it's a photo, it's almost 100 years old, of two gentlemen in tuxedos at a formal event. And, you know, it's Albert Einstein. And, you know, and he's there. And, you know, you think of Einstein and all his stuff. And, you know, and then you think of who would he be with. And then here's this iconic figure, Charlie Chaplin. And, you know, it's just, wow, the two universes collide. You don't expect to see Chaplin and Einstein together. But what's amazing is under the photo are a quote from each of them, and Einstein says, you know, the whole world understands you and they can't hear you at all because he was in silent films. And Chaplin's response was, everybody hears you and respects you even though they have no idea what you're talking about. And that's, you know, obviously most of us would relate to Einstein that way. And so, you know, I think we need to, I always go back to my late great friend and colleague, Dr. Stephen Covey, who said, in any encounter, seek first to understand and to be understood. That is such a powerful thing, and it's not easy to do. Covey always said, unless or until I can understand your position and say it back to you in a way that you approve. You agree that I now have articulated your position. I should do all that before I even tell you what my position is. But I have found that in that process, sometimes of just trying to understand What both parties find out is we're not that far apart. We're really not that far apart. And I think particularly in the world we live in now, you should deliberate before you debate, and you should learn how to disagree without being disagreeable.
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Yeah, and I think that's an art that many people aren't interested in learning or practicing in their day-to-day lives. I don't really like dissension, and so I kind of like to figure out a solution or if it's something that's really not that important to kind of, you know, the whole agree to disagree or, you know, kind of just let it go. Especially like in a relationship or family, like your goal really is to raise healthy kids who are well-adjusted, that people want to be around, that they want to employ, they don't get fired for being jerks and being late and being inconsiderate and talking back. So my husband and I have the same goal. And so when we do have disagreements, I'm not really that intent on pursuing it till the death until – Let's duel this one out. I kind of try to work out some amicable solution or whatever. And sometimes he does want to keep it going. And I remember we were trapped in the car going to some tournaments. We were going to be in the car for quite some time. And I said, well, we don't have to beat a dead horse, do we? You know, because I obviously wanted to let it go. And he didn't. It's So he said, I'm not beating a dead horse. I just want to find out why you said that in the first place. And I said, it doesn't really matter because we don't really agree on it. It was about mothers, my mother-in-law and my mother and comparing how we treat them. And we're never going to agree on that. So I said, well, let's just let this one go. But normally he can, but he just couldn't find it himself to let it go. But after I said that, he kind of realized that, oh, my gosh, I'm arguing with myself at this point because she has no interest in this debate.
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Well, and it's impossible to argue with someone that won't participate. Right. You just can't. You know, I think your first goal in any discussion should be, at the end of this, regardless of what we both think at the end of this, the lines of communication should remain open. You know, if you win an argument but the lines of communication are forever shut down, you've lost. There is no winning that. And when we really understand, my first big interview on television, I used to do a political show out of Washington. the Washington Reporter, and the very first guest was Senator Ted Kennedy. And if Senator Kennedy and I ever agreed on anything, it was probably an accident. We got to talking, and I realized he doesn't want to ruin our country. He doesn't want to destroy our children. We just had a different method in how we thought we would get to this same place. In fact, our goals would not have been that far apart. It's just our mission was the same. It's our method that probably is what we disagreed on.
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Yeah, what's interesting about that is you two being so far across the aisle from each other in terms of maybe your political beliefs, I find friends of mine that I'm so similar to that feel like family that I can just go to their house and hang out. One of my girlfriends, we cook together and we pick up each other's kids. She's like a sister to me. And, you know, we walk our dogs together. I mean, really, I mean, if you're cooking together, helping take care of each other's kids and walking dogs together, you are like family, you know, and I go to all of their family parties. Well, one day we started talking politics a little bit. And I found out we were polar opposites. And she started like yelling and crying. And I looked at her husband because my husband and I think, you know, we're on the other side of the fence as well. And they are too. She's a liberal and he's conservative. And so we were all four of us sitting there with these couples that are divided. And I just said, look, here's the deal. You're family to me. And we obviously have the same goals. And how we get there might be different. But you and I care about exactly the same things. And we love each other. And so we just have to drop this. This can't continue. But I think a lot of people get a charge or like adrenaline or like they're like, oh, I can change this person or I can convince them. And what you're doing is just driving a stake in the middle of your relationship and severing it further and further. And like you said, what we have the same goal. So why would you want to do that?
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Yes, and the world becomes a better place, and you become a better friend, relative, and companion when you give up the need to be right. You know, I'm going to convince everybody I'm right and I have to make them wrong. When you give that up and, you know, hey, it's okay if we don't agree on this. It's okay. I mean, you know, I mean, somewhere there's probably somebody that doesn't like chocolate chip ice cream or the Dallas Cowboys. It's hard for me to imagine that, but I'm sure there is.
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Yeah, that's the chocolate chip ice cream. Are you kidding me? Yeah.
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Yeah, but there are all kinds of things, you know. And Crystal, my wife, and I were at a place the other day, and they'd remodeled this wonderful hotel near our home. And we went in, and here's this three acres of carpet in the entry. You know, and she said, this has got to be the ugliest carpet I've ever seen. And I said, what's amazing is somewhere in a room, somewhere in the country, a group got together, looked at samples, and decided that's the best one right there. You know, I mean, obviously that's why, you know, that's what makes a horse race is different opinions and, you know, two extremes and a million in-betweens. And that's what makes it all go around.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is funny. All right. So in terms of Dr. Covey and his seeking to understand and then to be understood, I know you've learned a lot from him. What do you want us to learn from this article?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, every conversation is not a debate. It's not a discussion. There's no reason you have to make other people right or wrong. They're entitled to their opinion. Differences is what makes us all great. And, you know, you hear so much today about diversity and all the things that make us the melting pot, and it's the strength of our... And then we want everybody to agree with us, and we want to disagree with everybody that doesn't already agree with us. And, you know, it's OK. You know, it is really, really OK. And I remember back to 9-11 and people who were on both sides of the aisle, extreme. Well, my my senator, Jim Inhofe, who was selected as the most conservative senator at that time, he is standing on the steps of the House. holding hands with Hillary Clinton, singing God Bless America. And you think, okay, these people have never agreed on anything but on the important issues. When it comes right down to it, they're together. And so I think that's the takeaway here.
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All right. Now, in terms of these people, because you've had so many powerful, influential and well-respected friends, anything else you can think of that when you think about Dr. Covey that you think, wow, I really learned such and such from him?
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Well, you know, Covey was such a powerful guy. I mean, people, if you're not getting the things done you want in your life, I always tell people to read his book, First Things First. I mean, most people, if you've read any of his work, it's Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. But First Things First is just such an amazing book. And I remember he used to do this thing on stage when we worked together. And he would call someone out of the audience, and he had this big glass tank there. And he'd say, put these rocks in there. Put as many as you can put in there. And they'd say, that's completely full, right? And he'd say, yeah. Well, then someone would come up with gravel. Say, now, put as much gravel in it. Well, they could pour a lot of gravel in there. And he'd say, now, that's completely full, right? Yeah. And then here comes a guy and said, now, you come up here and fill it with sand. And they could put more in, and then it'd sand all the way to the top. And he said, so that's completely full. Can't get anything else in there. And then he handed somebody a bucket of water. He said, pour that in there. And you could put gallons of water in there. It'd fit. And, you know, so he uses that as an example of how you should do things in your day. And you've got to do first things first. Because you start by putting the water in there, then the sand and the gravel. You'll never get it all in.
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Ah.
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That's the power of prioritizing our day and taking control of our schedule instead of letting it control us.
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And so first things first, equally as good as seven habits of highly effective people does not as well known?
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Yeah, I think so. I really do. And, you know, of the seven habits, the sharpen the saw is the powerful one. Most people forget, you know, you're trying to saw down a tree and you saw faster and harder and harder, and you think that's the only way to get it done. And sometimes the very best thing you need to do is stop and sharpen your saw and take care of your tools, and then you'll get done faster. And that goes with us. I mean, there's so many people out there burning the candle at both ends. If you want to get more done, stop and get some sleep. I remember reading about a 14th century pope, and he said, before I was pope, I could not get through my day without two hours of prayer and meditation to face all my tasks. Then when I became pope, I got busier, and I had to change that to four hours a day.
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Wow.
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And, you know, that is so counterintuitive, but it's true. I mean, if you do first things first.
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I love that, Sharpen the Saw. I've read that book and I forgot about that one. I need to reread that. JimStoval.com. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you. Be well.
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Cheyenne, Wyoming is tuned to the mighty 670 KLT Denver. Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Well, the good news is National Small Business Week is right now. And as many of us know, small businesses can make a big impact. It's pretty much how our entire family runs. My husband has a business. I have a business. And my Son is a freshman in high school. As you know, I talk about him all the time. He's had a business for seven years, freshman in college, pardon me, since he was 12. So I'm excited to welcome Aaron Stark, general manager and vice president with ADP Small Business Services. Hey, Aaron. Hey, Angie. Thanks for having me. You are welcome. OK, so obviously Small Business Week, you know, you want us all to know about it. Just tell us why it's important.
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Yeah, well, for companies like yours, your husband's, and what an awesome story about your son, the small business community makes up 46% of our workforce and 61 million employees. So you think about the backbone of our economy and having an opportunity to recognize all those tremendous stories and be able to reinvest back into that community, I think this week is just a small token of our gratitude for what that means to our country and our economy.
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Well, you guys are very well known for what you do and not a small business, but you help so many of us. So let's talk about what's top of mind for small business owners right now, because you're in the know.
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Yeah, in no particular order, we see three things consistently in the conversations with our clients. One is technology. Another one is around talent. How do I find the right talent and make sure I keep the right talent? And the last one is compliance. This past year alone, Angie, there was 170 different laws that were either changed or added that a small business owner needs to be aware of. and some of them might be yeah some of them might be headwinds but some of them are actually opportunities that you know again if you're not aware of them there are 5 000 different business incentives that you could be taking advantage of that puts capital back into your business and those are the conversations that we get excited about to introduce those opportunities and help them find them apply for them and put that capital you know to make their businesses that much more successful you know the laws and the rules and regulations
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I am feeling right now my husband's anxiety because he's in a business where he markets for people who are highly regulated. Right. And so just maybe like a month ago, something changed where they had to get information from 300 clients. But I'm not talking like a phone number. I'm talking about detailed, highly sensitive information that you wouldn't just get from somebody over the phone information. And I have been helping him, and I can just feel his pain. It's unbelievable to me that a business that's been in business for well over a decade, very successful, that could really plummet if we didn't follow these rules and regulations that just got thrown upon him. Literally, the business could have gone under just over this one little thing. So I feel the pain of these small business owners. With my business, it's basically just me. But in terms of trends that you're seeing for small business owners, what trends are you seeing emerge now?
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So I'll start with technology. And I'm sure your son is, you know, the emerging generation, you know, AI and Gen AI, you know, these seem to be the buzzwords that we're hearing a lot about. I have a 12-year-old daughter who just put together a presentation to convince my wife and I to buy a dog, which we now have. But the content and the amazing production quality that you could put together with these tools is simply amazing. And you see it a lot in social media campaigns for small businesses. You see a lot of it in website design. And I think those are the flashy ones that we tend to see, but There's also technology that can help streamline the back office for a small business. And a lot of the clients that we have the opportunity to work with, they have so many different applications and so many different data points or data entry points where you have an employee that's clocking in, and then you have to take those hours and earnings, and then you have to key it into payroll, and then you have to go from payroll, and then you have to key that into a general ledger or an accounting software. And then you have a variety of other applications that you also have to operate and use to run your business on a daily basis. But imagine a world, imagine if you're a retail shop, And you had one tablet, one point of sale system that you went to where all those other applications are embedded into that one tool where the data just sings together. And you don't have all those different keystrokes. It's one keystroke that now enables you to go out there and run your business because you're spending less time on things that tend to not add value to your organization. Those are some of the really cool conversations that we're having with companies today. Sheesh.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Yeah, I'm overwhelmed sometimes by the tech stuff myself. So I'm having to adapt. In fact, interestingly enough, today, I'm having to do some changeovers that for, you know, a soccer mom with three teenagers, basically, it is a little bit perplexing to me. So and I can see why people throw in the towel or they don't get a good website or they don't go get an app. You know, there's the expense, but there's also the challenge of like, doing it right or understanding it or getting the proper person to help you. I mean, it's kind of like a sea of questions and figuring things out. I mean, it's challenging and it's good for the brain. But, you know, at my age, I do find it to be like, I even thought today, like, should I keep doing my show? And I've been doing this, Erin. I've been in the TV news business and radio business for over 30 years. And I actually thought today, like, should I keep doing this because I'm overwhelmed by the tech?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. By the way, it's funny, people ask all the time, Angie, how do you find it? And where do you go? And if you were to just go and Google it, it probably has that overwhelming effect, that fire hydrant effect where all of a sudden you're drowning. But if you have the right advisor, consultants, we see a lot of our small business clients lean on their accounting community to stay on top of these trends, to not only help them identify the right fit for their business, but also help to activate it, as you were talking about before, because you could spend the money to acquire it, but if it's not doing anything for your business, that's probably not a great investment. And I'll give you a perfect example of this, Angie. Imagine you're a daycare center in Colorado and you're about to hire your first employee and you didn't know that there is a work opportunity tax credit that by hiring that employee, you could put capital back in your business. but you need the right tools and tech in order to identify if you're eligible and then to go through the application process. Well, we have actually had over 65% of all the different tax credits and business incentives that we apply for on behalf of our clients were referred by the accountant community. So they're the ones that are aware. They then know which partners that you can tap into. So as opposed to going at this alone, Angie, and I'm sure based on your successful businesses between you and your husband and your son, one of the things that we've heard even in our Grit and Wisdom campaign was this is a journey that you shouldn't do by yourself. And having those right advisors and consultants and partners that can help you identify those things and implement those means that it could take some of that burden and stress off of your shoulders.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I agree with you. I mean, I can attest to you guys. My husband's used AVP almost since the beginning, so for over 10 years, and it simplifies things for him because I think in the beginning they tried to do it, I don't know, for their accountant or something. But like you said, when laws change, rules change, you've got, you know, whatever, like a million clients. Right. So you guys are on top of it. But like they're one one person trying to figure out all those laws. So they changed over to you guys pretty quickly. So getting the right tools is obviously extremely important. We also talked about, well, there's a adapting to the changing business environment and then getting the right talent. So let's tackle some of those, you know, because those are in the top three you mentioned at the beginning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you can have all the great tech, but if you don't have the people that operate it, that's probably not going to be too helpful. So we hear the talent conversation all the time, and it's broken down into three different areas. So you have, how do I find the right talent? And not just finding a person, but the right quality person. And we have tools embedded in our application that help a small business identify and find a quality candidate within 24 hours. And then once you find that right individual, how can I keep them with my company? Because it's not cheap to continuously hire new talent for your business. And we actually did a survey recently, Angie, and they said that the employees of the company said 80% of those individuals felt valued when you invest in me in things such as health benefits or a retirement plan. So when you talk about running a small business, it's how do you find them? How do you keep them? And then we talked a lot about the technology before. And because that's not replacing people, but it's changing some of the tasks and functions that they may be responsible for today, how can I cross-skill and up-skill and give them new things that they could be focused on so that way if there's a manual task that potentially technology can help augment, I have now kept that employee both engaged, I'm growing their skill set that can add more value to my company without having to hire somebody new.
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You know, speaking of hiring new people, I know a lot of people have a concern that some of these jobs might be taken away by AI, but I get how it can just be a tool as well for a business and a tool for the employees that they would still need. I'm fascinated because I've started using AI because my three teenagers have kind of taught me about it. In fact, One of my kids, she goes, you know, there's a humanizer, mom. I go, what is that? She goes, well, you do the AI, right? And then you put it through the humanizer. So it seems less AI. I use it for helping me write blogs. And so, you know, I come up with a topic, but then I rewrite it all in my own language, you know, because it just works better for me. And then I add points that maybe it didn't embrace or a topic I might know a little bit more about or have a different take on. But it is fascinating. So and it's so useful. So how do you think that small business owners can embrace new tech like A.I.? ?
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I think what's really cool about what's happening today and similar to the story that you just told is that AI and Gen AI and these new emerging technologies, they're showing up in ways where it's almost behind the scenes. And an example of this is in our payroll application, which is known as Run, we created a search bar. So that way, if you have a question that you want to ask, Most people didn't wake up when they were building their business to be subject matter experts in payroll or HR or benefits. So the way in which they might ask the question may be in their language, not our language in the human capital management industry. So we've now leveraged GenAI to take that question on how the client asks it the way that they normally would ask it and convert it into our language. and then give them back the answer in a way that they can digest it. So almost like codifying the information. So that way now our clients are becoming payroll experts without actually going to school for payroll. Not that there's a school for that, but imagine a world where now the tools and the technology are empowering our clients so they could just move faster and they can get those questions even for their employees answered quicker so they can get back to doing what they do best.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm. Okay. I, um, you know, I'm, I'm fascinated by this because I feel like some businesses, not even that small are embracing this without really understanding it yet. For instance, we were going to buy a truck and it was a big dealership and we got this message through what we thought was the salesperson saying, oh yeah, come in today. It was an hour drive, by the way, for the test drive. So that's two hours round trip. We get there and then a bot had messaged us. So this woman wasn't there. And then we couldn't even figure out, like, was she actually a real salesperson or did they just draw us into this dealership with a bot? And so they were kind of embarrassed. They're like, well, you know, it wasn't really Sally that messaged, you know, it was a. it was a bot but there really isn't sally and then my husband messages back the bot and says they're telling us here that you're not even a real person well sally was a real person but the bot had been messaging for i mean they're they're trying to use technology that's kind of almost messing up their business so i see that they need to maybe take baby steps first because i had no idea a bot could tell me to come in for a test drive when the person wasn't even working that day so I really appreciate your expertise. I love asking people, too, how they get into their area of expertise because there's so many. I've interviewed a lot of interesting people, thousands over the years. So how did you get into this area? We only have like a minute and a half left.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, I started close to 20 years ago. I was actually a sales representative for ADP back then in the small business community. And I will tell you that not much has changed. This area of owning a small business I have great admiration for. put a lot of trust into their service, their product that's going to put food on their table, clothes on their back, a roof over their heads. And there's just so much respect for those that are willing to go out there and take that leap of faith. So anything that we can do here at ADP to help support that community. I talked a lot before about those tax credits and the different business incentives to put the capital back and also the tools that can remove that administrative burden. Those are the things that we get really excited about and how we can support all those entrepreneurs that are out there, especially during Small Business Week. But at the end of the day, this is what ADP has been doing for 75 years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you so much. I learned a lot today. I appreciate all you do for small businesses.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we really appreciate you having us, Angie. Look forward to next year. Excellent. Thank you. Take care.
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Hello, hello, hello, everyone. Happy Monday. Happy Cinco de Mayo today. Is everyone enjoying margaritas and all that good stuff?
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I was going to make it taco night tonight, but I don't know. Is that cultural appropriation? Should we, as white people, be celebrating Cinco de Mayo? I don't know. I don't know, but I do, and it's kind of fun. So anyway, happy Cinco de Mayo today. My name is Karen Murray, and I am the lead instructor at Franktown Firearms. And you guys, do I have some news for you. You've got to come down to Franktown Firearms and check out what's new. That's all there is to it. If you haven't been down in a while, you haven't been. If you've driven past that intersection at Highway 83 and Highway 86, maybe on your way to Elizabeth or Kiowa or you're coming from Castle Rock and you make the turn at Highway 83 to head to Parker or to head to the Springs, you're right there. You're right there. So you have to stop and say hello because you have to check out everything that's new, new inventory, new layout, and new shoot house that you have to experience. And, Luke, I know you don't have a drum roll keyed up for me, but – this would be a good time for a drum roll. So you can just put a drum roll in your mind right now, and the date that you've all been waiting for, the first class offered by Colorado CQB, Defensive Shoot House Pistol 1 will be on May 15th. You got that, everyone? May 15th. So if you are interested in taking part in this inaugural dynamic series launch, Mention you heard about the class on shooting the breeze, and you can get $100 off your course fee. All you have to do to grab that discount is to send an email to support at cocqb.com and put Mama Glock in the subject line, and you'll get your $100 off. So prepare to encounter the most comprehensive and immersive and at the same time the safest environment in which to train that this state has to offer that's open to the public anyway. If you're not a member of Franktown Firearms, you should be. Members are going to get additional perks that non-members do not, class discounts and so on. So Give the shop a call at 720-770-7777, and someone will be happy to take your questions if you have any information you want to get regarding the range membership or the shoot house classes or concealed carry classes or whatever the case may be. I have a concealed carry class coming up this Saturday, May 17th, from 1 to 5. Only a few spots are left, so if you want to get on with that, go to franktownfirearms.com and click on the calendar. Look for the date, May 17th, and sign up through Sign Up Genius. I got a big show lined up for you today. I missed you all last week, so I have a lot of catching up to do and a lot of information I want to share with you. It was kind of one of those mornings that I didn't even know. There's so much that I didn't even know what to talk about. So you know me. I'm just going to kind of dive into some things, and I'm going to cover them in a way that only Mama Glock seems to be able to cover them. So if you want to talk about anything today, you can give me a call at 303-477-5600. and Luke, this amazing producer, will patch you through. Luke, how are you today?
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I'm doing all right, doing all right. All things considered, a bit tired, but, you know, waking up, it's a Monday.
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Did you have a big weekend?
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Yeah, a lot going on. Long end of the week, too. Thursday and Friday were pretty jam-packed, and I didn't get enough sleep over the weekend to make up for it.
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Well, we'll sleep when we're dead, right?
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Yeah, isn't that something, huh?
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So as you may have heard, the former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, Michael Jeffries, was arrested on charges of sex trafficking. So this is just one of many. You know that. You guys have heard lots of CEOs stepping down, presidents of companies. Congress people, you know, politicians here and there stepping down in their roles. And, you know, I think there's a reason for that. But Jeffries left Abercrombie in 2014 after more than two decades in charge of that company. Prosecutors of this case say he and his romantic partner, Of course, he has a romantic partner, which I think is a man, if we're being honest here. And a third man used the promise of modeling jobs to lure men to drug-fueled sex parties in New York City, the Hamptons, and other locations. I don't know if you've actually seen this man before, Michael Jeffries, but he kind of looks like a demon, in my opinion. Did you guys ever see the movie Poltergeist? He kind of looks like that creepy guy that's standing outside in the rain in the movie Poltergeist with the black hat on and just the creepy old. That's kind of what he looks like, in my opinion. If the eyes are the window to the soul, his eyes are like portals to someplace that I don't ever want to see. So now this arrest happened in October. And while we're just kind of talking about it now, I can't even begin to speculate that But he's currently out of jail on a $10 million bond. Michael Jeffrey's lawyer sought the ruling last month, writing in a letter filed in a New York federal court that the 80-year-old requires around-the-clock care because he has Alzheimer's disease, Lewy body dementia, and the residual effects of a traumatic brain injury. And that's a quote from his lawyer. So yeah, hopefully he sustained that injury from an angry father, you know, kicking him in the head or something. I don't know. I don't know how he got the traumatic brain injury, but that's not in the case. So I don't know. But his lawyers are saying that he's unfit to stand trial. And I'm guessing we're going to probably see a lot of this. Like if Joe Biden were to go up on trial, they're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, right? Because Oh, he's not sick. He's fine. He's sharp. He's sharp as a tack. He's there. He's up on his feet, whatever, whatever. So whatever. This is going to happen a lot. But I'm guessing many of these horrific cave-dwelling cretins will claim incompetence to stand trial as they're all being exposed for the monsters that they actually are. This will get much more exposure going forward, which brings me to the case of Virginia Giuffre. I don't know if I'm saying that name right. I hope I am. I don't know. But she reportedly committed suicide. And if you don't know who Virginia Giuffre is or was, whatever, she was a witness in the Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case, claiming that she was sex trafficked to Prince Andrew when she was 17. Yeah, Virginia Giuffre, she was kind of a tortured soul, yes. She had been on her own since she was 12. She suffered sexual abuse at a young age. She was likely selling herself as a result of that. So Delaine Maxwell preyed on those vulnerabilities and brought her into Epstein's inner circle. So by the time she got to Epstein, I think she was pretty well-versed in the whole scene there. But when I first heard about her suicide, my first thought was, nope, nope. She didn't unalive herself. And then I started seeing posts where the family confirmed that she took her own life. And I immediately started thinking, okay, yeah, right. It was kind of like a Clinton thing where, you know, something happened and then it's all suicide. You know, even the guy that got shot in the chest twice and hung in a tree or something was suicide. I think I talked about that a couple of years ago, but yeah. First of all, remember she got into this terrible bus accident and was posting on social media that she was in renal failure and probably wouldn't make it. Do you guys remember that? Well, she did make it, and she was on the road to recovery. Side note, that bus accident is suspicious to me as well, just because of, you know, who she's testifying against. But then I started seeing an ex-post from her verified account And this ex-post reads, quote, I am making it publicly known that in no way, shape, or form am I suicidal. I have made this known to my therapist and GP, general practitioner, I'm assuming that's what that means. If something happens to me, for the sake of my family, do not let this go away and help me protect them. Too many evil people want to see me quieted. So she writes that. But investigators say that they found a suicide note in the area where she allegedly committed suicide. It's not very legible. There's part of it that's kind of flocked out or whatever, so I don't know what I saw. I saw the written note, but I don't know if it was like a photocopy and something was obscuring some of the text at the top. But it says in part, we are not going away. Mothers, fathers, sisters, and brothers need to show the battle lines are drawn, and we stand together to fight for the victims or the future of victims. Is protesting the answer? I don't know, but we've got to start somewhere. So here's a woman. She's got three kids. She's living in Australia. According to her family, she was estranged from her husband. She's 41 years old, so she's got a lot of life ahead of her. She's in the According to her, I think it was her brother, she was, her husband, former estranged husband or whatever, had a restraining order against her, which she violated. But then she gets in this bus accident. She survives this horrific crash, which in itself is odd. When doctors told her she had four days to live, And she posts on X that she's not suicidal. She's very outspoken about what she experienced on Epstein Island. She's a fighter. She's a victim's advocate. And she leaves a suicide note talking about this fight. So doesn't this whole thing just kind of reek of corruption and a cover-up? Or is it just me? Is it my tinfoil hat is on a little bit too tight? Is that what's going on? So here are my two trains of thought. And yes, I have two, sometimes three. I have more than one train on the track at any given time. So either the bad guys who were involved with the insane amount of human trafficking around the world, including the Clintons, got her to shut up, as in the bus accident didn't finish her, so they tried again and succeeded, or the good guys have helped her to stage this so they could place her in protective custody and her family is aware of this. But, you know, the initial report that said her family confirmed it was suicide. So I don't know. But there's a lot of sense to be made in this story. Not a lot. I don't know. I think many people will be scratching their heads as more of this kind of stuff comes out. On a brighter note. I have an assignment for all of you. We're going to get to more doom and gloom here in just a minute, but I want to talk to you guys about this incredible ministry that I found on TikTok, believe it or not, of all places. You've heard me talk about TikTok a lot, and I think there's a lot of great accounts and a lot of great information to be found on TikTok. But I've been following this woman. Her name is Kayla Marie Gabbard and her ministry for about a year now. To say that she's on fire for Jesus would be an understatement. She's genuine and loving and compassionate and caring and just sweet and soft-spoken, and she's just an amazing person. And she travels around the country doing revivals and performing baptisms with her small team of amazing, Jesus-loving men and women. And she lives in Waco, Kentucky. And the mission statement on their website for KaylaGabbardMinistry.com reads, At Kayla Gabbard Ministry, we believe in the importance of getting back to biblical standards, to turn away from the world and traditions of men and toward Jesus. We offer daily Bible lessons across all social media platforms to advance your knowledge of Scripture, along with taking revival and biblical baptism across the nation. To date, Kayla Gabbard and her team have baptized more than 6,800 people and have set them free from their bondage of this world and released demons and healed people and all kinds of stuff. It's truly amazing. This account, if you ever get a chance to, and she's not just on TikTok, she also has a Facebook page. If you just go on and we'll give you that information in just a second. But I just wanted to say that they've actually been to Colorado. and they baptized 74 people here. I don't know where they were around, because I think they were here long before I found her account. And 74 is kind of a small number by comparison to some of the other states that they've been to and baptized people. And if she ever comes back to this state, which probably needs Jesus more than any other state in the Union right now, I'm going to this revival. I've been baptized. I was baptized as a baby in the Lutheran faith, but I will get in that water, and I will do it again. In one of her videos after a revival in Alabama, Kayla describes a woman who sold everything she owned to purchase a Greyhound bus ticket so she could attend this revival. And there's another video where Kayla baptized a woman who had just lost her three-year-old daughter just weeks before. And to watch Kayla not only baptize, but to truly engage and hands-on and pray over every single person that comes into that water with her is just It gives me chills every time I think about it. I've watched videos on her page where she's baptizing someone, and you can just feel demons leaving these people. It's amazing to watch. I can't make it through one of her baptism videos without crying. She is a remarkable young woman who just wants everyone to know the power of Christ and delivers his message in such a beautiful way. So I think everyone needs a good, healthy dose of Kayla Gabbard. So I'm going to encourage you to find her online. If you go to Facebook, you can just search her name, Kayla Gabbard. Her last name is G-A-B-B-A-R-D. You can also find her accounts on TikTok. Obviously, she has two of them, and she delivers scripture on kind of her personal account. Very profound, very impactful, and that's Kayla Marie Gabbard, no spaces. It's just her full name, all one word. Her revival page is on TikTok as KG underscore ministry. And again, the website is KaylaGabbardMinistry.com. So go check her out. You will not be sorry. If you just want a good dose of Jesus today, go watch her stuff. It's fabulous. So I have a few more gloom and doom stories to share with you today, as well as a little steamed beans and some grinding gears. I'm going to start with our impending financial crisis. And according to several authorities on the subject, if you're not familiar with Catherine Austin Fitz's She's an American investment banker and former public official who served as managing director of Dillon Reed and Company. And during the presidency of George H.W. Bush as United States Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, she has widely written and commented on the subject of public spending and has alleged several large-scale instances of government fraud. So I'm sure she's been having a field day with this USAID thing. She was being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, and if you haven't seen the interview, you should go watch it on Tucker's YouTube account. She has a lot to say with regard to the housing bubble and the housing market crash in 2008, and has even more to say about what's going on now with our economy and how bad it actually is. And I'm not in any way whatsoever an economic wizard, by far. In fact, much of what we're about to play for you is gibberish to me. But the urgency is obvious. So maybe some of you listening who are well-versed in economics, business, finance, all of that good stuff can research this and act accordingly. But the piece that we're going to play for you is from Tim Kramer on TikTok. This is pretty long, but I want you to listen to it. It's really important. He's stitching a video from a financial expert named Tiffany Cianci or Cianci. You'll understand why I say when you'll hear this. Pay attention to what this woman says because it's rather frightening. This audio is about eight and a half minutes. You'll want to listen to all of it. Check this out.
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Last night, I started off by researching Hooters getting bankrupted by private equity and ended up uncovering the next 2008 level economic collapse. And they're hiding the bubble inside a private equity black box that makes it almost impossible to see what they're doing. Almost. This time, they're not going to collapse the banks and make it too big to fail. They're going to bankrupt the entire American pension system. I'm almost too afraid to make this video, but it has to be done. So let's get into it. In 2008, investors and bankers were able to crash the world's economy by engaging in risky, unethical bets and investments, and they did it right out in the open. They've learned, and this time they're doing it again. Bigger investments, bigger risks, same playbook, but they're doing it behind the smokescreen of private equity in bigger numbers. They're creating a bigger bubble than before, and it's not somewhere down the road. It's here, and it's about to pop. You see, for the last month, I've been trying to figure out why these companies that private equity had acquired were failing even though they were still succeeding. Joanne's, 97% of their stores are still profitable, and yet they're still bankrupt. But they weren't bankrupt a year ago, and they still had the debt that private equity had stacked on them a year ago. So I wanted to know what changed. The same thing with Hooters. The same thing with... Now in 2024, private equity bankrupted 110 businesses and that was almost double their previous record. There had been huge increases in the amount of bankruptcies each year over the past three years. But I didn't know what had changed because private equity had held many of these businesses for several years and they were still succeeding. Until I got my hands on an economic report and an article and found a term that nobody could explain to me. The term was back floating rate loans. I didn't know what that meant and no article would explain it to me. So I had to go and do research in the financial prospectuses of a bunch of financial investment firms. Guys, in the last few years, private equity has taken out $3.8 trillion in adjustable rate loans. These are adjustable rate loans. These private equity firms took out adjustable rate loans. And so for the last three years, as our interest rates have gone up every 30 to 60 days, the money due on the loans they stacked on top of these companies has gone up every 30 to 60 days. That's why these successful companies that private equity had acquired are suddenly bankrupt, even though they're still making money. They're bankrupt because they're paying adjustable rate loans. But it doesn't stop there, it gets so much worse because my next question is why are the banks willing to give these risky loans to these private equity firms knowing it's gonna cause them to fail? And the answer is because the banks aren't gonna keep them on their books. The banks are immediately repackaging these adjustable rate loans as something called CLOs, right? Which are then packaged and sold off to our pension funds as really great debt. And they tell them that it's a diversified portfolio. Are you hearing the big short in real time? Literally, all of these companies are getting bankrupted in greater and greater numbers. And all of this debt is adjustable rate. And all of the bankruptcies are skyrocketing in this direction. And the... Now, if you look at this graph, you can see that aside from 2020, which is obviously an anomaly, right now, private equity, that's the yellow section, has double the highest number of bankruptcies they'd ever had prior to last year. And that number is climbing this year, $3.8 trillion. $3.8 trillion in this debt, okay? I want you to look back to 2008. Do you want to know how many risky adjustable rate mortgages there were? $1.1 trillion. Do you want to know how many subprime but not quite as bad loans there were? $1.3 trillion. That was just in housing. In the $3.8 trillion held by private equity, they own the largest shares of the home ownership market in the United States. But they also own the daycares. They own the veterinary clinics. They own the pet stores. They own the nursing homes. They own the emergency rooms. They own the doctor's offices, the orthodontists. They own the builders. They own the HVAC companies. This isn't just housing, it's gonna touch every single industry around us. And that is why, if this were a free market and private equity had not exploitatively gotten involved, if we had a free market and we could see what they were doing, these companies would be succeeding. If this were actually a free market, these companies would be succeeding. Joann's has 97% of their stores profitable. That is an astronomical number. 97% of a retail store is profitable and they are failing and they are closing every store and it is further consolidating an already consolidated environment. And now there are thousands and thousands of employees that will not have jobs. And there are thousands of other businesses that are going through the exact same thing right now. And why? Because they know we will never allow the banks to be bailed out again. We would literally riot in the streets. but we're definitely going to allow them to bail out the pensions because that's our grandparents, that's our parents, that's the working class. They know that this will get bailed out and because there's no regulatory authority, there are no laws stopping private equity from doing whatever they want, they know they can get away with it and we can't do anything to stop them. The most important thing you need to understand is this wasn't done by accident. This was done by blatant, intentional greed. The private equity firms wanted the cheapest debt they could get, and they believed arrogantly that the debt would stay cheap forever. They had 0% interest rate loans for ages. And so they took on these adjustable rate notes thinking, what, they could keep refinancing forever out of it. It was arrogant, but it also meant that they got to collect bigger fees because they were taking risky debt that cost less. The bankers were happy to give them because they got higher fees on offering bad debt. They were gonna get paid no matter what. At the same time, the private equity firms mandated in their contracts with these companies they acquired that they were advisors and that they were a management company. So they also get paid that way. And then they sold the land out from under these companies and all their assets and made themselves whole before any of this even began. They're already cash positive. the banks knew they wouldn't be held accountable because they were going to bundle it up and pass it off to the pensions. And even the pensions were reckless because they're buying these mechanisms because when you purchase into private equity, when you purchase private equity debt as a pension, you get to put on your books, especially if you have an underfunded pension, the projected gains for 10 years, which means for 10 years, it looks like that pension is more shored up than it is. And at the end of that 10 years, when it's time for that to close out suddenly then all of the bad debt comes crashing down on the pension but at that point there's a new leader on the pension fund and they kick the can down the road so even they were reckless but at the bottom of all of this is the bankrupting of the fabric of our society we are losing our businesses we are losing our doctors we are losing our orthodontists we are losing our nursing homes we are losing our funeral homes And one by one, they're going to fall under the weight of this really horrible adjustable rate debt. And nobody, nobody is talking about it. I could only find two articles in very obscure financial magazines that even talk about these back-floating rate loans. I have never been more terrified. And I talk about private equity a lot. I have a lot to say. But right now, all I want to do is get someone to pay attention that can make a difference in this because we have a problem. We're not without any hope at all. Right now, private equity is only allowed to be this exploitative because they exist under something called the carried interest loophole, something that multiple congresses have tried to close, but private equity continues to bribe politicians to fail to actually achieve. Trump, three weeks ago, said he wanted to close the carried interest loophole. I thought he was doing it as a fundraising maneuver. I thought he was doing it as a fundraising maneuver, but he's doubled down on it repeatedly. If we can make enough noise about this, maybe we can get him to actually see it through and end private equity's stranglehold on our population. There's so much more that we have to go through, so this is going to be a multi-part series. But if you're new here, my name is Tiffany. We work together to fight private equity and save small businesses in our community. And it's going to take every single one of us to do so. So do all the things and stick around.
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Okay, so take that for whatever you will. Like I said, a lot of the terms that she's using, they're just these heavy financial terms that I'm not familiar with. But I'm sure many of you have knowledge about all this stuff, and maybe you can make more sense of it, but it sounded very urgent. And I know I've seen from many different sources about this impending financial crisis that we're about to experience. So I don't know. You can find her if you go to TikTok. Once again, she's at Tiffany Cianci. I can't remember how to – let's see. Let's see if I can find her name again. It's C-I-A-N-C-I. It's how you spell her last name. So take that for what it is. You know, I'll admit – As a nation, I don't know, we're too many ignorant people. It's probably all the fact that I don't know anything about this stuff is part of the reason why we are where we are. People not paying attention to what the big banks and the gigantic hedge fund managers and all that stuff are doing with our money and the bribery and the kickbacks and the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's just the way it is. We're going to take a short break, and then when we come back, I'm going to dive into some pretty dark stuff. But, you know, that's why you guys love me, right? We'll be right back.
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And we are back.
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Yes, go to franktownfirearms.com. Go to www.coloradocqb.com, C-O-C-Q-B.com, and check out those classes. You guys, there's a cool video to watch on there now. You just have to check it out. So I'd like to read something for you that I received from a good friend of ours, Dawn. Hello, Dawn, if you're listening right now, and tell Angela I said hello as well. He sent me a piece from Jeremy Locke called Protection. And it says, in order to engineer a culture and pervert the free thinking of men, evil must create an enemy. It is not important to tyrants who the enemy is. Tyrants offer protection from these enemies in exchange for obedience. Think COVID, right? Take careful note that they offer protection, but obedience is mandatory. Whether or not you wish to have the authority over you, you will obey or they will revert to violence. The enemies are only created to ease the burden of obedience from the minds of people. Cultural enemies are an illusion. Benjamin Franklin taught that those who give up liberty to gain security will soon have neither. This is not an idle observation. The pattern of tyranny clearly shows that the entire purpose of presenting you with the need for security is to convince you to yield your liberty. That is everything authority wants. The demand for security is raised by those who seek power over you. This is how they create enemies. Make no mistake, it isn't the enemy that tyrants are after. They are after you. The illusion of cultural enemies is designed to restrict the thinking of people. It is designed to convince people that the real enemy is not the evil that rules over them, but some imaginary demon that would do them harm. This is the lie of tyranny. It requires your obedience in order to save you. Tyranny is disguised as culture and law. So who is the enemy right now? Sooner or later, we have to understand that our enemy is them. It's not us against each other. It's them. It's the elites, the Illuminati, the powerful, the rich, the government, the deep state, the cabal, whatever you want to call them. They are responsible for all the atrocities that we are seeing in our society right now and in our world. They are responsible for the race wars, the physical wars, the information wars, the war for our minds. In Colorado, things are a complete mess as a result of failed leadership, as you know. Our Democratic majority in the legislature is beyond despicable, and the bills they are passing go against every decent, moral and constitutional tenant that there is our government is a complete tyrant or our governor is a complete tyrant he and has done nothing to help this state and has only driven it into the ground in every way possible but he sits up there with a smile on his face and and, you know, receives accolades from his loyal lemmings that clap every time he comes out. And our sanctuary policies have led to this hundred illegals being arrested in this underground nightclub where authorities found drugs and money and weapons. And we had military people there protecting them. But at the same time, they passed laws making it harder for us to obtain the same weapons that they likely found in this nightclub. They make it harder for us to get our concealed carry permits that they require for us to exercise our Second Amendment rights. This list could go on and on and on of the stupid, un-American bills that this legislature in Colorado has passed. So to begin this next segment where I'm going to complain about Colorado's egregious politics, here's a fun little tongue-in-cheek piece that might make you laugh or make you cry. I'm not sure, but I'm calling it Welcome to Denver. I'm not sure, but everything she says is true. Check this out.
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Denver, the mile-high city. Come for the mountains, stay because someone stole your catalytic converter and now you can't leave. Ever want to watch a city collapse in real time? Downtown Denver's got you covered. Take in the sights. There's a naked man fist fighting a lamppost and a woman aggressively breastfeeding a pigeon. Don't forget the man selling authentic artisan copper wiring that just so happens to match the power outage on your block. It's vibrant, diverse, and it's definitely not safe. But don't just take in the sights. Take in the stench of a city in ruins. The sidewalk? Repurposed into permanent housing. The bus stops? Those are now living rooms. Need to walk literally anywhere? Good luck dodging tents, human feces, and used needles. And we don't just have homelessness. We have a government-approved humanitarian crisis. 9,000 people living on the streets. And our government's response? Counting them. Once a year. And then ignoring it. Encampments pop up overnight. Just little pop-up shops. Except instead of selling scented candles, they're selling your stolen bicycle. And we don't just have drugs. We hand them out. Last year, Denver distributed over 500,000 free needles. Because when faced with a deadly fentanyl crisis, the city's response wasn't treatment, detox, or intervention. It was making sure everyone had the proper tools to keep using. Fentanyl overdoses here are up 800% in the past five years. Over a thousand people died last year alone. That's three people a day. But don't worry, the governor has a plan. More Narcan stations and free fentanyl testing strips. Because when people are dropping dead in record numbers, the best course of action is to make sure they can measure their poison before taking it. And if they overdose, no problem. Paramedics will revive them, hand them a fresh dose of Narcan, and send them on the streets to do it all over again. It's like playing whack-a-mole with human despair. Denver won't fight the crisis, but they will use your tax dollars to fund another bike lane. Because what the city really needed wasn't fewer deaths or safer streets. It was more space for people to swerve around bodies while riding e-bikes. So come on down and experience the Mile High City, where the crime is lawless, the leadership is clueless, and the only guaranteed trip is a drug-induced coma at Denver Health. Welcome home.
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So anything there untrue in what she's saying? So in addition to that little satire, well, it's not really satire, it's truth, but she says the whole thing with a big smile on her face, and it's kind of, she's funny about it, but none of this is funny. Something very real is a proposed rebrand of Civic Center that will cost the taxpayers millions. It hasn't been approved yet, but the town council, at the behest of Chris Hines, made a proclamation that Civic Center Station should be rebranded and named after Wade Blaine, who was an accessibility advocate in the 70s. So this will be very expensive. New signage, likely some new modern art, some new letterhead, whatever, who knows. Pay no mind to the hordes of junkies and homeless people who call Civic Center Park their home. Forget the needles and the panhandlers and the crime. Let's rebrand, shall we? Let's rebrand and put up some new signs and all that's going to go away, right? So I spoke earlier about the wars that we're fighting. And one of the wars being fought right now is the war on our children. And you've heard me talk about this topic over and over and over, this trans agenda. And you might say, oh, God, here she goes again, railing against LGBT. OK, and maybe I am. But because this affects kids. And the public school system is a breeding ground for this propaganda, and our public universities push it even more. I feel that it all bears repeating. I'm going to start out by talking about Colorado's House Bill 1312, which you guys probably are already very familiar with. It's all about trans kids and gender-affirming care. I get so sick of that term, and I just want to scream talking about this whole thing. But here is a detailed breakdown of HB 1312. Focus on Education. The bill aims to make school policies more inclusive of transgender students, including policies related to chosen names and dress codes. Family Law. The bill originally included provisions about how judges could consider dead naming and misgendering in child custody cases, which sparked considerable debate and was ultimately removed. Public Accommodation. The bill addresses how public entities should handle names on forms, requiring them to include both legal and chosen names and use the chosen name on subsequent forms, according to Colorado General Assembly, which, you know, you know how I feel about them. Gender affirming health care. This bill aims to protect access to gender affirming health care, particularly for minors, by codifying existing rules about gender affirming care coverage and and prohibiting denial or limitation of medically necessary care. Whatever that is. Remove the controversial provisions. Following a lengthy debate and testimonies, the bill's most controversial provisions, including the ones related to child custody, were removed. Okay. The fact that they refer to this as gender-affirming care is disgusting to me. If you search through social media, you will find hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of videos of trans people who consider themselves detransitioning, who regret everything about what they've done to their bodies. Doctors who perform these surgeries hold a special place in hell, in my opinion. The entire trans ecosystem goes against every biblical principle, and sadly, over the last 10 years, it's grown. You know that it's grown. We didn't hear about this stuff. Yeah, we used to call them cross-dressers and we ignored them. Yeah, whatever. This isn't by accident. If you look through TikTok about this subject, you'll find a lot of mental illness. And they'll tell you that they're mentally ill. I saw one video where a biological man got Medicaid to pay for his bottom surgery and So in case you don't know what that means, I'm not going to explain bottom surgery, but what that means is you paid for his bottom surgery. Kids going through puberty who were feeling that awkward phase that we all went through that are being affirmed by the adults in their lives, their parents, their teachers, their doctors, all edging them toward the possibility that they were born in the wrong body. I want you to listen to this piece from Detrans Awareness on TikTok. There are hundreds of videos like this. This is a practice that should be made illegal and practitioners should be arrested for wrecking the lives of these kids. Check this out.
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At 16, the very first medical intervention I ever had was a double mastectomy. A few months later, I was then put on cross-sex hormones. I am now 21. I live with constant joint pain, to the point that it's so bad that I have not been able to get out of bed to go to class some days. My vocal cords ache, my breasts are gone, and I will never know if I will be able to carry a child, because there's a good possibility I'm sterile. You call this care. I could not consent to this due to both my age and my mental health conditions. Yet you call this care. My parents were baited with the idea that I would commit suicide if this was not given to me. They were told, would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son? These are not the words of a doctor. They are the words of a politically motivated activist. Kids deserve a chance to grow up whole. They deserve a chance at life.
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So can you hear the anger that In this girl's voice. And yes, this is a biological female, obviously. She had a double mastectomy. She's a biological female. This young woman was led through this process by her parents. And now she's a shell of her former self, likely unable to bear children. She's mutilated. Now, and even if she does, you know, they find a way to enable this girl to have children, she will never be able to naturally feed her children, right? Because those are gone. Now, I understand that there are people out there who are truly gender dysphoric, and I do believe that it is a mental illness, and they would probably tell you the same thing, that it's a mental illness, right? And to all those people, I say... To say that you were born in the wrong body is to suggest that God made a mistake with you. God doesn't make mistakes. There are people who were born with both male and female, right? I can't remember the names for those people, but they exist. And there are people who were born with neither. And these are the people who need the most guidance and the most compassion and you know, the most care, trying to, you know, see where they fit in in society and kind of helping them along their way. However, most of all, these people need to go see Kayla Gabbard to be given a Bible so they can come to know Jesus and ask him for help as well before the knives come out. But to begin interventions like hormone therapy on kids as young as nine is criminal. Again, I'll say this. It's all by design. I mean, what better way to reduce the world's population than to convince our kids that they're born in the wrong body and to surgically mutilate them to where they can't reproduce? That's a pretty effective way to reduce the childbirth numbers, right? I want you to listen to one more piece I have for you. If you have a child that you are affirming, especially a child under the age of, well, with a boy, doesn't the frontal lobe, doesn't that not develop completely until 25 or 28 or something like that? But if you have a young child and you're affirming this child in a different gender or whatever, you need to hear this. Check this out.
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What you may not have thought of is that there's a lot of people who can't move on on this because that's the people who've transitioned their own children. So those people are going to be like the Japanese soldiers who were on Pacific Islands and didn't know the war was over. They've got to fight forever. This is another reason why this is the worst, worst, worst social contagion that we'll ever have experienced. A lot of people have done the worst thing that you could do, which is to harm their children irrevocably because of it. Those people will have to believe that they did the right thing for the rest of their lives, for their own sanity and for their own self-respect. So they'll still be fighting. And each one of those people destroys entire organizations and entire friendship groups. And now you can't talk truth in front of that person. And you know you can't because what you're saying is you as a parent have done a truly like human rights abuse, an awful thing to your child that cannot be fixed. There are specific individuals who are really actively against women's rights here, and it's not known why they are. But I happen to know through the back channels that it's because they've trans their child. And so those people will do anything for the entire rest of their lives to destroy me and people like me because people like me are a standing reproach to them. I don't want to be. I'm not talking directly to them. I don't spend my time bitching about them. But the fact is that just simply by saying we will never accept natal males in women's spaces, well, it's their son that we're talking about. And they've told their son that he can get himself sterilized and destroy his sexual function and women will accept him as a woman. And if we don't, There's no way back for them and their child. They've sold their child a bill of goods that they can't deliver on. And I'm the one who has to be bullied to try to force me to deliver on it. So those people are going to be the people who will keep this bloody movement going, I'm sorry to say.
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So she is not wrong. And, you know, this is something that I'm, you know, I talk about a lot. I'm kind of passionate about it. I'm not an activist for it by any means, but this is just so wrong. And I know that this is an inescapable truth of this social engineering experiment that they have going. There's a reason for this. There's a reason they've promoted it. They're irrevocably harming these kids. And they, I don't even, the coercion and the propaganda that they use to get to these parents that are obviously very vulnerable and very impressionable, lives are being destroyed. And there's no coming back from it, especially once those knives come out. There is no coming back from it. And the amount of regret that I saw, even just researching this segment that I'm doing right now, it's enough to make you cry. There was one video, or that girl, the first one that I played, where she was saying that the doctors were telling her parents that she was likely to commit suicide if they didn't help her transition or whatever. And that's such a lie. I've told the story many times before about our daughter. When she was three, four, five years old, she loved Spider-Man, and she thought she was the Incredible Hulk, and she would go back in the head-rearing and the hands, you know, the whole thing. She had Hulk hands, those big, huge Hulk hands, you know. She watched Bob the Builder, and she wanted to be called Ace. And she was, you know, she loved dirt, and just she was a little tomboy. I never for a split second considered her to be anything but a girl. She was a kid. She was a child. She was being a child. She was exploring and latching on to stuff that she enjoyed. And then she would move on to something else, the next big thing or whatever. She was learning and growing. And now she's married with a baby on the way. Thank God that we're the ones that raised her and she had, you know, her parents had some sense about them. Oh, my goodness. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy for continuing to talk about this, but because I go down so many rabbit holes and I understand how manufactured this all is, it just sickens me. And the fact that, you know, a lot of these teachers, especially the inner city kind of teachers and stuff and how they've got their flags flying and the trans flag and the pride flag and all this stuff. And they're just promoting it so much that it impresses, impresses upon a child who, who's kind of, you know, coming into their own anyway. And then they have to call their teacher like G or some weird crap. And she's got, you know, purple hair and, And the kids start asking questions like, why am I calling her this? She's a she. Why do I have to call her she? And then it adds, you know, confusion. And then they're starting to question things. And it's just this crazy cycle that I can't I can't even start to think about. It just drives me insane. So thank you for letting me vent about that. I was hoping that I would have time to tell you guys about this cool audio book that I have been enjoying, and it's from Mike Adams. You heard me talk about Mike Adams a lot, and he's the health ranger, and his audio book is called The Contagious Mind. And it is a fascinating look into the knowledge that we have available to us through what he calls the cosmos. through our ancestry and through our history. And one of the first points that he makes that got me really thinking, and I want you guys to think about this too, is about spiders. Now, I'm not a fan of spiders, okay? And just talking about spiders kind of gives me that chill up my spine. Spiders and crickets gross me out. I don't know if you guys know that about me or not, but I have an irrational fear of crickets. I'm probably more afraid of crickets than I am spiders. I always say that I don't trust anything that you touch as the leg falls off, okay? but I do find spiders fascinating in what they do, like spinning their webs and all the intricate stuff that they do with their webs and catching prey and all that. So the thing that's interesting to me about this whole contagious mind thing is, now thinking about entomology, I don't even know what the phrase would be, but how do spiders learn to do what they do? How do they know to cast a web and let the wind catch it and, you know, latch on to a tree that's, you know, 20 feet away or 10 feet away or whatever, and then go about their way of creating this intricate pattern of this spider web? And like black widows, you know, they make the webs that look like cones and And so they make these webs and they work and they spin and they do their stuff. And spider webs are beautiful. I'm not going to lie. They are. The sun catches them with the dew on them and they're gorgeous. And it's just, it's amazing to me that spiders can do this. These little tiny insects. So how do they learn? How do they know how to do this? If something, like if they cast a web and, you know, it's in perfect mint condition and something disturbs maybe a connection point on a tree and something rips it off or an animal walks past it and rips it off or whatever, they know where the problem is and they go down and they reattach it. Or if there's a section of their web that got destroyed by something, by wind, by a bird, whatever, they know how to fix it. They go and they spin more and they perfect the web once again. And if the whole thing is destroyed... then they know how to start over and do the same thing over again. But you think about, like, outdoors in a, like, let's take spiders in Wyoming, for example, okay? So, you know, it's very windy in Wyoming. So how does a spider know which direction to cast the line, the web, out of his abdomen to latch onto a tree in the right area? And then think about, you know, the time that it takes in this wind to, you know, maneuver his way around and to create this web and then sit in the middle of it to catch his prey, to catch the flies or whatever other bugs that they eat. And it's fascinating. So fascinating. It's just a concept that I think opens your mind a lot. And he goes on in this concept about how we, as human beings, can learn from one another, even from somebody that's across the globe. He talks a little bit about this particular sweetener, this crystal form that they were doing some experiments on or whatever, and it used to crystallize at a certain temperature, And then once this, they did some other things to this atomic structure. And then when this atomic experiment was done, the temperature changed on these crystals and what temperature was required to crystallize these crystals or this sweetener stuff. And then from that point on, they could never recreate the first one. Like the crystals, they have a new starting point now. And that's just weird. Like they could never recreate that first experiment that they did with this sweetener and these crystals. So it's just, to me, it's an absolute fascinating look into how we're all kind of connected in this quantum field. And it's very woo-woo, I guess you'd call it. But I think it's absolutely fascinating. So that's going to be it for me today. Thank you, guys. so much for tuning in to Shooting the Breeze and spending the last 58 minutes with me in the fastest hour in broadcasting. You guys, you heard me talk about it before, but this new shoot house class, you have to go to support at C-O-C-Q-B dot com. Put Mama Glock in the subject line and send it off and you will get a hundred dollars off your course. This course is going to be a three hour course. It's going to be $250. We're going to knock a hundred bucks off for you. So it's only going to be $150. You are not going to regret it. 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Join Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he unpacks the theme of scar tissue in the soul in this not-to-miss episode. With a strong emphasis on biblical teachings from Ephesians, Hughes provides clarity on how worldly distractions can cloud our spiritual journey. The episode unveils the unseen struggle between pursuing God's truth over the enticing yet empty promises of the cosmic system. Listeners will gain insights into how self-deception and societal arrogance influence personal choices, further alienating individuals from their spiritual purpose. Hughes also addresses the sanctity of divine institutions like marriage, highlighting personal and impersonal love as essential elements in resolving conflicts and maintaining spiritual harmony. As the episode unfolds, Hughes encourages a balanced approach to spirituality, explaining the importance of the rebound technique in maintaining a relationship with God. This enlightening discussion aims to equip believers with knowledge and wisdom to counteract life’s adversities while fostering a deeper understanding of their faith journey.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning, and welcome to The Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, inviting you to stick around for just a few minutes. We'd like to give you some information. No manipulation, no conning you, not trying to hustle money, not trying to get you to join anything, just offering solid, sound information that would help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life, if you're interested. And if you're interested, you can orient and adjust to the plan. You have your own free will, your own volition. You can choose for or against the plan of God at any time in your life. But my job is to give you that information so it'll help you decide what you want to do because God gave you two ends. That's right, two ends, one to sit with, one to think with. And success in your life is going to depend on which one of those that you use. Heads, you'll win. Tails, you'll lose. So the purpose of the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, is to teach you God's wonderful problem-solving devices, 10 unique problem-solving devices that act as a main line of resistance, and that keeps the outside sources of adversity from ever becoming the inside source of stress. So we remind you of biblical truths. We introduce you to an in-depth way of studying and learning the Word of God. And as I said, no manipulation, no solicitation, just education, okay? Wherever you may be listening today across this great country of ours, thank you for listening. Thank you for giving me a few minutes of your time. It's always interesting every Sunday morning as we broadcast this show to see the opposition that we run into And so far as stations that sometimes fail to play the show, execute the agreement that we have. So we have people listening, people that let us know if the show doesn't play in their area. And if it doesn't play in your area, then let us know. Please always let us know. We want to continue our study today that we started last week. It was called A Soul in Chaos. And what happened is we went through a verse in Ephesians, and we talked about building the scar tissue in the soul and what happens when you build scar tissue in the soul. And I'm going to go both through that verse again and then continue on. This is Ephesians 4, 17 through 21. Scar tissue in the soul. You may be asking yourself, what is scar tissue in the soul? Well, listen as I read and I'll explain it. Paul said, this I say therefore, or I solemnly testify in the Lord. That's the source of the information, in the Lord. that you do not live your lives like Gentiles live in the vanity of their mind. That's the vacuum of their thinking, that there's nothing there. The vanity is a vacuum. The Greek word metaiotes, it's the word vanity, and it means an emptiness or a vacuum. They have their understanding darkened, blacked out, skotizo, the Greek word skotizo, blacked out, which means they can't see or understand what they're doing. And it goes on to say they're alienated from the life of God because of ignorance, that's a lack of knowledge, ignorance that is in them because of the blindness of their heart. Blindness of their heart is the scar tissue. The word blindness is not the word blind. It's the Greek word porosis, P-O-R-O-S-I-S, and it's a hardness, a hardness of the heart. It's a callousness of the heart. It's the scar tissue over the heart. And when you put things into your life that don't belong there, they scar you up. And what happens? Who being past feelings, verse 19. When you get to the point where there's no guilt, no shame, no embarrassment, Once the scar tissue has become so embedded in your life, you will self-destruct. And then the Bible goes on to say, they give themselves into lasciviousness, that's a lifestyle of lasciviousness, to work all sorts of uncleanliness with greed. Can't get enough of it, in other words. But he goes on to say, you did not learn this from Christ. This is not the lifestyle that the Lord Jesus Christ talked about. So last week we studied how scar tissue is accumulated on the soul of the believer. and the passage that i just gave you it's living like the unbelievers live which is simply rejecting the knowledge found in the word of god without knowledge there is no wisdom and without wisdom there is no discernment and no insight if there's one thing that satan would seek to do more than anything else is to keep you from having any knowledge of the word of God. Therefore, you don't know your choices. If you don't know your choices, then there's only one road to go down. But if you know your choices, then you can choose right or left. So if knowledge is accepted, it can become wisdom in the soul of a believer, a Christian, And then that knowledge translates into insight and discernment. Wisdom does that. But there's a handicapped life. I know you don't have a handicapped life. Maybe you do. Maybe you aren't handicapped in a way that you have a handicapped sticker on your car. But what I'm talking about is the lifestyle that's lived from within the cosmic system. The cosmic system or the evil perpetuated by Satan. The cosmic system is an illusion. It's a mirage. since Satan cannot provide the peace and the happiness which a believer acquires from the mind of Christ. So at best, a handicapped believer, or even a non-believer, can only hope to secure some sort of temporal happiness from the details of life. The cosmic system is Satan's strategy as the ruler of this world to control people. It's his policy for the rulership of the world. And it deals in two areas. He exploits believers through their own arrogance and then the propaganda and the indoctrination to promote antagonism towards anything related to God. So the cosmic system emphasizes arrogance and abnormal preoccupation with self, as well as antagonism and intolerance towards the plan, the purpose, and the will of God, and towards all Christians who want to execute it. I noticed recently that an NFL football player encouraged people to take a Bible to school, and I think it was some sort of Read Your Bible Day, and he got into it. All sorts of criticism because he said, take a Bible, read your Bible. The world can't stand it. The world can't stand the Word of God. The cosmic system is completely opposed to the Word of God. The cosmic system is evil, fueled by the demonology of Satan, and it's always necessary for Satan to rule. He's got to produce this cosmic system. He's got to get people to act in regards to arrogance in their own life and divorce them from the reality of God's plan. And that starts through antagonism towards the Word of God. If he can get you to do that, then he's got you. And there is more antagonism towards the Word of God today in America than you care to appreciate. I mean, it's horrible. if you stand up in the public arena for the lord jesus christ or if you are a public figure and you quote the bible or you believe the bible you are instantly maligned and criticized as a weirdo so it's terrible temporal happiness in the cosmic system is all that it offers it can't offer the peace and the happiness that god offers The Bible says in Luke 11, 27 and 28, happiness belongs to those people who hear my father's word and keep it. So God has designed a lifestyle of happiness for you, not a lifestyle of misery from a series of bad decisions that eventually leave you feeling hopeless and empty and lonely until eventually so many people actually take their own lives because they see no way out. So at best, a handicapped believer or even a non-believer, at best, they can only hope to secure some sort of temporal happiness from the details of life. Now, God set up a system called the divine institutions. And within the divine institutions, one of the things that God ordains is marriage. It's a divine institution, and it's designed for the bearing and raising of children. And marriage is God-inspired, yes. But without problem-solving devices, marriage at best becomes a battleground for control of finances or a struggle between two individuals who have a fondness and affection for one another, but they don't have the capacity to love each other when things get crossways. They don't have virtue love. They don't understand impersonal love. And so the Bible clearly says in Ephesians 5, 25, husbands love your wives just like or just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. It's kind of hard for a non-believer to love his wife as Christ loved the church. But if you are a believer in Jesus Christ, this is a mandate from the Word of God. This is virtue love. This is you loving your wife with impersonal love when the time comes, or her loving you with an impersonal love. So without the knowledge of impersonal love, which is a problem-solving device, it's one of our problem-solving devices, number seven, Without the knowledge of that, then many marriages find themselves locked in daily conflict. Personal love for God, problem-solving device number six, is your motivational virtue to obey him. That's why the Bible says in 1 John 5, if you love me, you will obey me. That's personal love for God. But impersonal love is a different type of love. It's a love based on your character, not theirs. So you can love the unlovable person just like God loved you when you were unlovable. Remember where it says God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son? Remember that? You were unlovable at that time. You were not a believer. And he still loved you and still sent his son to die for you and provide your substitute so that you can have salvation. Therefore, the Bible says, if any man's in Christ, he's a new creation. Old things are passed away. And the Bible says, he that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the righteousness of God through him. So God's personal love is, God's impersonal love, excuse me, It's demonstrated on the cross, and your personal love for God is demonstrated by being obedient. But if you don't understand impersonal love as a problem-solving device, then a marriage finds itself locked in a daily conflict, the conflict of wills. Let's face it. Come on. Men are self-centered, and by most standards, they do what they want to do when they want to do it. But women, on the other hand, normally are responders. When there's nothing to respond to, then trouble and conflict is always brewing for sure. Now, since God instituted marriage in the Garden of Eden by creating Eve and bringing her to Adam, then that is something that Satan will naturally attack. He will attack the institution of marriage in order to thwart God's divine design. Satan does not endorse marriage. He endorses no marriage. He endorses, I don't know how to put this, but he endorses marriages that are not recognized in the Bible, such as men to men and women to women. And the Bible recognizes one man, one woman in a marriage. That's the way God created it. So this is one area that Satan seeks to destroy, marriage. And he seeks to destroy it by infidelity and mistrust till eventually the couple gets a divorce and can't live together. And some people, by the time they're 30, have already been married and divorced a couple of times. Well, scar tissue, building scar tissue in your soul, that destroys your ability to feel any remorse or to feel any shame or any guilt since the violator of that is past feelings. So if you have scar tissue, as the Bible said, you're past feelings. I'll read it to you one more time. Because of the blindness of their heart, who being past feelings have given themselves over to lasciviousness to work it with greed. So I tell you what, it's a tough situation. So since God instituted marriage, That's his divine design. Satan seeks to destroy marriage. And scar tissue destroys the one area that destroys your ability to feel remorse or shame. Past feelings, having a hard heart, are having no guilt or no shame. Once a person gets here, and this is the soul in chaos, once shame is gone, once guilt is gone, once the ability to recognize the failure of arrogance is gone, then the person that has that will destroy their lives eventually and maybe even destroy the lives of others who love them and care about them. So I'm going to ask you a question this morning. Is it possible that you could lie on your tax form and not feel guilty about it? Do you claim that you have a right to not disclose what you earn since the government is stealing from you? Have you ever had that thought? Have you ever done that? See Romans 13 one says, let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore, whoever resists the authority resists the ordinances of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. Now, this is where people say, preacher, you've quit teaching and you've gone to meddling. I'm not meddling. I'm telling you what the Bible says. Can you cheat on your taxes and not feel guilty about it? If so, you are arrogantly, subjectively rationalizing why it's okay to do that. And that's the first stage of arrogance, self-justification. A person in arrogance will always justify why it's okay to do whatever they want to. And then from self-justification, you move into self-deception, and from self-deception, self-absorption, and eventually self-destruction. So you cheat on your taxes and get caught, you're gonna be in trouble. And you say, well, I hadn't got caught yet. Well, listen, God knows. He knows exactly what you're doing. You might not have been called by the government, but God knows every time you make a negative decision. And do you know that's a sin? Christians sin when they cheat on their taxes. So in Matthew 22, 21, I'm just using this as an example now. I'm not getting on taxes, but in Matthew 22, 21, our Lord echoed these thoughts when he said, render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render to God the things that are God's. So if a believer or a non-believer can lie, steal, deceive, cheat, or feel no guilt or no shame when they do that, then they have scar tissue. Have you ever been in line at the store, maybe at the Walmart or the Target or the Sam's or wherever you might shop, and the cashier gives you back the wrong change, not enough, you would say, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I gave you a 20 and you didn't give me enough change back. But what if you gave them a 20 and they gave you change for a 50? Would you then say, hey, wait a minute, you made a mistake. You gave me too much money. Or would you say, oh, it's my lucky day. And would you trot out the store feeling lucky because you got away with something? that's an indication that you have scar tissue. Scar tissue or hardness of the heart means you don't feel guilt, you don't feel shame, you don't feel remorse. And so you go down the road thinking you got away with something. The heavier the scar tissue in your life, the deeper you will go into eventually criminal arrogance. That is until you get caught. And then when you get caught and when you get sentenced to prison, then you feel remorse and you feel grief and you feel whatever you feel unless you're so arrogantly self-induced misery that you want to blame the whole world and blame society that caused you to do what you did. And it's not that way at all. You are not a victim of your society that you grew up in. You're not. You're not a victim of the circumstances that you faced as a child. You are a victim of your decisions, and bad decisions limit future options. That's why when we believe in Lord Jesus Christ and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior, We have a whole new room of decisions, a whole new boundary in our life, a whole new plan for our life, a whole new way of living. And so we don't have to live like we used to live. We live a new life in Christ and we learn to control the flesh. So no one's perfect. We all have a sin nature. We all have the opportunity, excuse me, to take control of our sin nature. if we receive the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior and we become the new man the Bible talks about. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 5, 17, if anyone is in Christ, I quoted it already, he's a new creation. Old things pass away and all things become new. This means that you now have a soul and a spirit and a body. Prior to believing in Christ, you had a body and a soul, but no spirit. You were spiritually dead. But once you believed in Christ, God the Holy Spirit came to indwell your human spirit, and you're made spiritually alive. So now you have a body, a soul, and a spirit, and that's what makes you a new creation. Spiritually alive, you were spiritually dead. Now you're spiritually alive. So the old things pass away, all things become new. That does not mean that you're never going to sin again. But what it does mean is that you have a new weapon now to use against the slavery to the sin nature. What is the weapon? It's God's Holy Spirit and the living Word of God in your soul. Prior to being a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you did not have these two assets. They are invisible assets, and you have them. Prior to that, you were a slave to the sins of the flesh, the desires of the flesh. You had no way to break free from that. Now you do have a way to break free. Galatians 5, 16, this I say, walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh wars against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh. So sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you feel like two different people. It depends on which one is controlling your life. If you allow your sin nature to gain control, then you'll be out of fellowship with God and you need to use problem-solving device number one, which is the rebound technique where it says if we confess our sin, God's faithful and just to forgive us. But if you fail to rebound as a Christian, as a believer, then you go back to allowing your sin nature to regain control and to be fed by the thoughts of Satan and the cosmic system. And there are many believers, many believers who have trusted Jesus Christ and accepted him as their savior who are now living miserable lives because they do not understand the spiritual life. They got back under control of the flesh. They still live under control of the flesh. They have not broken the control of the flesh. And they're subject to the desires of the flesh. So you don't have to live that way. There's a better way to live. In Galatians 5, 16, walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. This means when you sin, you stop and confess your sin. When you know you've committed a sin, you rebound. Not when you go to bed at night, you rebound instantly. The minute you know you've committed a sin, go to God then and tell him, and I can hear you right now. Well, what about the ones I don't remember? The Bible says he's faithful and just to forgive us of all unrighteousness, even the ones you don't remember. And you say, well, that sounds too easy. Well, it is easy because Christ provided everything necessary to satisfy the justice of God on the cross. Yes, it's easy. But what's not easy is growing in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. There are two different words I want to introduce you to. One of them is spirituality and the other one is maturity. It is easy to be a spiritual believer. You just are filled with the Spirit. But it is not easy to become a mature believer because that's where the Bible says you must grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You must study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. rightly dividing the word of truth. It is not easy to have a mature spiritual life because it requires sacrifice on your part to study God's word, learn God's word, and apply God's word into your life on a daily basis. It is easy to rebound. It is easy to name your sin to God and get back in fellowship. The whole reason for being in fellowship is so that you can advance spiritually in the plan of God. You see, once we accept Christ as our Savior, God's Holy Spirit indwells us. Ephesians 1.13, having believed, you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. And the weapon that the Holy Spirit uses is the Scripture. The scripture is the knowledge of God's mind. It is the knowledge of the word of God converted into wisdom that gives you the advantage to have discernment and insight in regards to the traps of Satan and the lure of the flesh. Listen again. It's the knowledge of the word of God. When you learn it, the knowledge of the word of God that you convert into wisdom, that means you apply it, And that gives you the advantage to have discernment and insight in regards to the traps of Satan and the traps of the flesh. Satan has a strategy towards you. He knows your weaknesses. And the Bible says you're to put on the armor of God and stand against the strategy of Satan in Ephesians chapter 6. We must know his strategy. Paul talks about that as well. We must know the strategy of Satan. I can tell you what it is. It's to work on your area of weakness. Whatever your area of weakness is in the flesh, it may be lust for money, lust for power, lust for attention, lust for drugs, lust for alcohol, lust for sex, lust for a lot of different things. And this is where he'll hit you the hardest. And so you have to understand how to overcome that, how to recognize that. If you don't have discernment and insight, you will not even know when you're being tricked. You won't even be aware of how Satan will trick you. James talks about this. So every decision that you make in your life must be based on information. Your volition acts on that information. And here's the trick to this thing. The cosmic system offers false information. The cosmic system offers information that's not true. And the scriptures, the Bible, offers God's information. One is designed to provide a wonderful life, and one is designed to enslave you and ultimately destroy you. What is God designed for you? Jeremiah 29, 11, For I know the thoughts that I have towards you, says the Lord. thoughts of peace and not of evil, and to give you a future and a hope. Well, what does Satan have in mind for you? Well, listen to the words of the Lord Jesus Christ. Satan was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. He's a liar and the father of it. If you fall for his cosmic system influence, you fall for the lie. He's a liar. He can't provide you what he says he can. He can't provide you the happiness and the peace and the longevity of life that God can. But until you get in fellowship and until you grow spiritually and become the man or the woman that God intended for you to be, you're never going to know that and you're never going to understand that. You have to make a choice. Do I want to grow up and be the person God wanted me to be? Or am I happy just tooling along in life, getting by? Are you a conventional Christian that just shows up on church on Sunday and goes home and thinks, okay, I did my chore. I went to church Sunday, and you got nothing. You weren't fed. You weren't encouraged. You heard a little music. You gave the offering. You heard about the Sunday school attendance, and that was it, a 15-minute sermon, and you're out of there until next Sunday. that says we call that the nod to God crowd. That's not the spiritual life. That is not it at all. If you've listened to me long enough, you know what it is. You know what I'm encouraging you to do, to begin a daily routine of studying God's Word on a consistent basis, even if it has to be in your own home. Please, listen to me. Be the man, the woman God designed you to be, and stop being sucked into the lies of the cosmic system. I hope next week you'll come back. I hope you'll continue to listen. Contact me if you have any questions. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this lively episode of Drive Radio, join us as we dive into all things automotive with a special focus on listener experiences and questions. We explore cherished memories and adventures listeners have had with their favorite vehicles, revealing the joy and nostalgia cars bring into our lives. It's a trip down memory lane for some and an exploration of automotive love for others, all while starting our engines and getting ready to hit the roads. Special guest Burke Payne joins us to discuss the ins and outs of diminished value and what it means for you if you've recently been in an accident. Whether you're interested in recalling memorable drives or curious about recent vehicle recalls, this episode brings you up to speed on what's happening in the automotive world. With engaging host discussions and expert insights, we ensure you are well-equipped to tackle all automotive challenges.
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All right, we are here. Drive Radio. I was going to say we're back because we do Fix It Radio right before this. But Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service with us today. Larry Unger, of course, with us today also answering phones. And Charlie Grimes. And yes, we are a live program today. I was on vacation the last couple of weeks. We were trying to get a fill-in crew last week that just didn't quite... pan out so we appreciate all of you listening to the couple of replays we had but we're live today may the 3rd so if you're listening to a replay you know what today is if you're listening on sunday as well thank you very much for that also we appreciate you guys listening to the replay shows but how steve this morning
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Good. Very good.
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Beautiful day today.
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Isn't it great? This is the best time of year. One of the best times of year.
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No, it really is. Between now and fall, I mean, between this time of the year and the fall season, great times. The thing I like about this time even a little better than fall is winter's not coming. Yeah. Summer is, but winter's not. In fact, we're getting a little longer daylight each day. Yes, that'll start to go away in, I don't know, what, June? The latter part of June. Yeah, June 20th. So we've got still another good month and a half plus left of really – well, even longer than that because it just goes the other direction. But I do look forward to this time of year and those days getting longer. Right now, you get up in the mornings, it's light at 545 to – six now and the birds are chirping yeah they're already up and chirping away and my problem this time of the year not to get off on some non-car related things but my problem this time of the year is because of the longer days in the early mornings i don't sleep as much yeah i'm i'm doing other things because i like being outside and the sunshine and
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I'm missing something. Yeah, exactly.
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So I don't sleep as much this time of year as I would other times. It just is what it is. But I do love this time of the year. And those of you that are listening, you may be out doing some things today, running errands. Maybe you got some car things you're doing and so on. So question of the day that I have for today. And we've got a guest joining us at 11. Burke Payne will be joining us again. He was with us in Fix It Radio. We're going to talk about diminished value. So those of you that may have any kind of an accident, and you want to know exactly how to handle that, be listening at 11 o'clock. Burke will be calling us, and we'll chat. By the way, lines are open. If you want to call in with a question, please do so. 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. Question of the day. And this kind of goes with some of the questions we've had of late, but I kind of dovetailed in a little different direction here. Because this could be a car that you maybe never owned, may have just had access to, driven, maybe you rented it, even as far as that goes. But what's a car you drove that provided you the most enjoyment? Now, it could be something from way in the past, kind of going down memory lane. It could be something you own now. Again, it could be something that you rented. It could be any number of things, and it could even just be an experience you had. Maybe it was a vacation and a rental, and it was the things you did, and it made it extremely enjoyable. So it doesn't have to be a car you owned, just a car that you drove. that provided you the most enjoyment. And I've got an example of this. Now, this is a car that I didn't actually drive. And I would love to own one of these cars, but they're getting so expensive, I'm not sure that I'll ever own one. And part of that is because finding one even that's all done correctly, they're super expensive. But I had the opportunity when I was 16, and I was driving, but I had a friend that had a friend. It's a friend of a friend. And it was one Sunday evening after church. This was back when you went to church on Sunday morning and Sunday night. And it was this time of the year where it was light, late, and so on. And this friend of the friend had a red Chevelle 70 LS6. four-speed chevelle which at that time was one of the fastest cars probably on the road that you could drive on a regular basis that wasn't an exotic or anything along those lines and i had the opportunity along with this friend of mine and we went out and And did a little bit of driving around and nothing crazy. We didn't get in trouble or have any tickets or anything like that. But we were able to go out on a road that was basically not open yet was closed. We went around the barriers, which, no, we weren't supposed to do. But this was back when the Boulder area was a lot smaller than it is now. And we were able to do some things that you by no means could get by with today. But I was able to ride in. and really see the power of a 70 chevelle ls6 four-speed and back then that was literally probably one of the fastest cars i was outside of a race car that was one of the fastest street cars i was ever able to ride and the fun we had that night doing that and just even the short time we were only riding around for maybe hour hour and a half something like that but the enjoyment of that and that experience with those friends at that time and doing what we did is one of those memories that you'll never forget. So that's kind of my question of the day is, you know, give me an example of something along those lines, something that you either were a part of, drove, whatever, that just gave you some enjoyment. And that's our question of the day. Jerry and Greeley, you're first today. Go ahead, sir.
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I guess my memory lane story would just be four-wheeling with the Red Rock four-wheelers out in southeast Utah on the Jeep Safari and the Labor Day weekend trips. Some of the stuff those guys drive over, it's just unbelievable until you see it. I remember the first time I went out with the club, some of the obstacles I thought, I can't possibly get over that, but they'd spot me and help me and And anyway, it was a lot of fun.
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That's a good story. Those are the things I'm asking. So that's perfect, Jerry. Very, very perfect.
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I got a recall notice for my 2017 F-150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost saying that there's fluid leakage between the master cylinder and the brake booster. And they say they don't have the parts to fix it yet, so they'll let me know when it's time to actually do the repairs. And I have noticed slightly more fluid loss in the reservoir than I would have expected. So I'm assuming some of the brake fluid is migrating into the booster. And as I try to follow the vacuum line from the manifold to the booster, there's a bunch of other stuff in the way that I don't even know what it all does. I think it's somehow related to the turbocharging system. There's this cluster of devices and hoses that I haven't deciphered yet. But I'm wondering if then the fluid could go beyond the booster into some of that stuff, you know, go further, I guess, upstream towards the vacuum source, if there's something else I might ought to be worried about.
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Yeah, well... It could. It could get in there. It could start smoking. It could start burning. It's been a long time since I've seen that kind of a problem, to be honest with you. We'd have cars actually starting to smoke out of the tailpipe because the brake fluid would run like the oil. But it's been a long time since I've seen something like that. When you're saying that, I find it amazing that they're having this problem. I mean, it's a safety issue for one. And the other is, I mean, it's been designed so nicely for so long. How could they have this problem? To me, that's the part that bothers me the most. I think that just beyond the smoking, I don't think there would be much that you could cause it well. I suppose it's even possible you could start damaging cattle converters and things like that if you're getting a lot of oil in there. So there's some things in there that could happen. Well, they're a little far-fetched, but it's possible.
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I mean, anything's possible. It's a matter of, you know, what if and will it happen and so on. I mean, Jerry, would I lose any sleep over any of this? No. The bigger question is going to be how long it's going to take them to get the recall done. That's probably the bigger question I would have. Did they give you any kind of timeline at all?
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No.
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Interesting. Because, unfortunately, it could be a year. Yeah. I'm not exaggerating. It could be a year. I mean, some of these, I mean, you look back to the Takata airbags and even some of the other things that they've gone through, some of these manufacturers, and even GM now is going to talk about this, so it's a good segue, the 600,000 6.2 liter engines that are being recalled on the GM side. That is going to take a long time to get through that many vehicles, Jerry.
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Yeah. Well, I guess I'll just keep an eye on that fluid level in the master cylinder reservoir.
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I agree. That's what I would do.
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Okay. Yep.
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All righty. Well, I appreciate the advice. Jerry, as always, appreciate you very much. Thanks for the phone call. Eva, how are you today? Hey, how are you? I'm great. Good to hear from you.
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Oh, thank you so much. Hey, it still is my vehicle to drive, and I don't drive it that often because I have another one that gets better gas mileage. But my 97 Toyota RAV4... It has a standard shift.
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Oh, yeah.
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Oh, God. I wish I had waited to see if I could order the newer car with a standard shift. I love driving a standard shift.
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You and I both, Eva. I do as well. And as you know, there are now very few cars made with a manual transmission. Very few.
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Oh, that bothers me, yes.
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And to your point, Eva, you being of your age and me and Steve in our age, us being able to drive manual transmissions and so on, and yet these next generations, there's few of them now, not just one, but these next generations that, frankly, if it's got a stick shift transmission, a manual transmission, they don't know how to drive it. They don't know what to do. They don't know the first thing to do.
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I know, and I don't know where she found it, but I have a friend of my grandson. Actually, I think it's a half-sister. But anyway, she needed a vehicle, and she was able to buy, oh, a Subaru, I think it was, with a stick shift for $3,000. And I said, oh, I want, please let me teach you how to drive it. And she hasn't taken me up on it. She has a boyfriend that's been driving it for her. And I would, oh, God. I tried to teach my grandson to drive one of those. And I had to put in a new clutch.
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Oh, no. Again, not trying to belittle the next generation. That's not what I'm doing at all, Eve. It's just because they haven't been exposed to them, they don't know how. Where all of us back in the day, it was very, I mean, a lot of cars in my world growing up, and that was just in the 70s, a lot of cars had a manual transmission. Most trucks had manual transmission. So if you didn't know how to drive one, you weren't going anywhere.
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Oh, it's so gas efficient. I mean, the vehicle itself isn't, but having, being able to just, keeps shifting up and down. Oh, I love it.
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It was much easier in the snow.
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You could control things so much better. Again, this is just the nature of the world, in our country especially, Eva, and again, this is not to bash anybody, but the softer we become as a country and the more conveniences we want, That's why we don't have as many manual transmissions, because the reality is it's still cheaper for the manufacturer to build a manual transmission as opposed to an automatic transmission. But the reality is the market doesn't want that. They want the convenience of an automatic.
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You know, one thing, John, I would not be able to drive any of these new things that are self-driving anymore. What the heck? What's the point?
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Well, I feel the same way as you do. It's like I want to drive. I don't need you to drive for me. I want to drive. I think we don't drive anymore. We just steer. We steer. That's true, too. Good point.
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I see the day where we won't have keys.
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Oh, you're right on that, Steve. A kid won't know what a key is. Yeah, that's true. You won't know what a key is. Well, it's getting to that point now where you have a fob and a button.
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They're missing out. I agree. It's so much fun. I love it.
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Well, Eva, we appreciate you very much.
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I always listen to you. Well, thank you. I always learn stuff. Thank you.
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Thank you, Eva. We appreciate you greatly as well. Joe, hang tight. We'll take a break. Come back. Two lines open, 303-477-5600.
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John, I know you're kind of new to this whole automotive thing, and you don't know a whole bunch about engines, but my Bible, Consumer Reports, tells me I'm wasting my money buying premium gas for my car. So you know anybody who could opine on what Consumer Reports is saying about you're wasting your money buying premium gas?
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And what Joe is referring to, and I appreciate you sending me the article, Joe, because Joe sent me an article where Consumer Reports recently did a test between the two different grades of fuel. In this particular case, in our world, we have three different grades, and their claim is there's no difference at all between one grade and the other. But, Joe, the test they did was so – under i don't know i don't know what if i'm using the right words underrated or underdone in other words wasn't conclusive at all they they did basically a couple of tanks of fuel around a track if you would no real world driving conditions no scoping of the engine prior to see what kind of carbon buildup was there versus what was after i mean in my opinion a very lame test at best to then come out and tell everybody there's no difference because there is
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Well, I think they said like a 1% to 2%, and they said for the amount you're paying. You know, the premium you're paying for the premium fuel to save, you know, 1% or 2% better gas mileage. By the way, in my car, I finally get almost 10% better gas mileage on my car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and, Joe, it's interesting you say that because years ago, I mean, this is a couple of decades ago, we had some Dorsey from Arvada West, who you don't hear much from anymore. But, you know, Arvada West is still a great sponsor of ours and still a great shop. And Dorsey himself, Joe, did a test at that time. He had a minivan. and nothing fancy, just a regular Chrysler minivan back in the day. And they had a station, so he was selling fuel at the time, and it was easy for him to take the different grades of fuel. They were an Amoco station back in the day. And he literally did an over-a-course-of-a-year test on mileage, like what you're talking about, Joe, and proved that on that particular car, because it does vary from car to car, his best mileage came from mid-grade.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it really does vary from car to car, but for consumer reports to come out and say there's no difference is a blatant lie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, again, so, too, I think they grossly underestimated the improvement in fuel efficiency. And, too, as you said, they didn't do a long enough test to look at the carbon buildup. I know, for instance, you talk about the BNG, and I'm a firm believer I do the BNG every oil change. But, you know, if you're going to foul up your rings, unfortunately, you know, I talked to my mechanic. He says only about 10% of the cars, although he promotes it, only about 10% of the people come in and actually opt for the B&G oil treatment. So, you know, if you're going to be buying low-grade fuel... And you're not going to be doing the BNG. What's going to happen to the carbon fouling on your rings after 50, 60,000 miles? And what's that going to do to your fuel efficiency?
SPEAKER 09 :
Great point. And, Joe, that is something that most people, most technicians even, aren't informing their customers of and doing a good enough job of informing their customers of because everything you just said – is spot on. Yeah, you might be able to save a little bit of money on fuel, and Consumer Reports is telling me that I'm not really doing that much difference when it comes to my engine and the performance of and so on by using the higher-grade fuel, so why bother? It's that old, I hate to use the old commercial, you can pay me now or pay me later, but that really is what it comes down to, Joe. I'm going to make more money with them telling them that, honestly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Steve's happy about that, Joe. Actually, no, it's more of a pain in the neck.
SPEAKER 07 :
And on my fuel test, John, the reason I was able to do it, you know, I normally put premium in the car. But one time I was taking a trip to visit my mother up in Rhode Island. I'm on the Connecticut Turnpike, which is flat, no hills. And I pulled into one of these, you know, highway rest stop service stations. And the gas pumps were a mob scene. And the first pump open was the only pump I could get was regular. So I filled up with regular. And I normally average on my Telluride, you know, on highway driving, I normally average around 25.5, 26%. And I put this regular gas in my car and got back on the highway and drove another 150 miles to my mother's house. And, John, instead of 25.5, 26, I was getting 23, 23.1. And then on the way home, I went back to premium, and I was right back up to 25.5. There you go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great example. Well, the only thing, too, that they didn't explain in this report for all of you listening, they didn't get into is your car a high-compression engine car, which a lot of vehicles are, yours included, Joe. Do you have a turbocharger or a supercharger on your car? They didn't get into any of that at all, Joe. Again, very, very weak, if not lame. I'm going to call it a lame report from Consumer Reports. It was absolutely ridiculous. I wouldn't have publicized that. I mean, my feeling on that is whoever the editor was is a moron.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, actually, they called it not a report. They called it a study, John. It was not a study.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not in my terms at all, Joe.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. But for other listeners who may get that magazine and may have read that, I just thought you might want to throw that out there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not to belabor this, Joe, but that is my biggest problem with the whole Consumer Reports end of things. And, Joe, it's like anything else. When you're off that much in this study, well, then how can I believe when you tell me that this is the best car you recommend to buy? I can't, Joe. Or stove or whatever, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
The one thing that got right, because I think car and driver, is when they rated the Telluride as the best mid-range SUV of the year. I thought, or maybe even three years in a row, I think they got the Telluride right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and a great car. I mean, I've had family members that have owned that car. Joe, you own that car. I've got several listeners that own that car. So, yeah, spot on. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. 75,000 miles on a dime. It's the best SUV I've ever owned. Yeah. And, you know, I drove... I drove nothing but Durangos for 20-plus years. I had like five of them. I get a new one every four years. Yeah, that's right. I knew that. Yeah, that's right. Now, don't make me – Durango is a great car, but I was pulling horse trailers in Colorado. I don't need to pull a horse trailer in New Jersey, so I didn't need that big V8, that big Hemi. So in terms of fuel efficiency and reliability, John, that tells you I'm the best car I've ever driven. Yeah. So, anyway, speak – anyway.
SPEAKER 09 :
Joe, I appreciate – no, that was a great point, and I appreciate that very much. And this will be a little bit longer question and answer. So, Mark, hang tight. I want to give you plenty of time here. We're up against the bottom of the hour here, so let's take a quick break. We'll come back. Mark's got a question on how to sell a car. Good question, by the way, and a lot of people out there listening – this will benefit. So hang tight. We'll come back and do that. We have lines open 303-477-5600. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. And we got two lines open, 303-477-5600. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's with us. Mark, you're up next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
How are you gentlemen doing today?
SPEAKER 09 :
We are great. Good, good.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sad day today. My wife's making me sell the 03 Tahoe. Oh, you're selling that? Pretty soon I'm going to be in a homeless shelter. That's the next step for me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, why are you selling the 03?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because we've got five cars with two people.
SPEAKER 09 :
And your Volvo show up yet?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, and it got a clean bill of health. It really had 63,000 miles on it. And it went through it. I spent six grand on that car going through every single detail, everything. Got a clean bill of health, and then next week was the new top. She said, we don't need five cars.
SPEAKER 09 :
And your Tahoe has barn doors, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, and here's the other issue, too. I had a guy look at it last night. I want $12,000, and I'm not budging an inch. And he offered me $9,000, and I said, have a nice day. Apparently, that book you show people with all service records from day one being original order doesn't count.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's somebody like me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I know, but you're a different kind of character than some people, a lot different. So I ask you a question. How do you phrase a sign? when you put it in a window? I mean, do you put all your personal information? How do you do that?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, in fact, I mean, for me, it's a little different because of what I do and so on. For all of you listening, I would not give anybody on any sign my regular cell number. I would get some sort of a, you know, all of these cell phones today, Mark, iPhone, Google, whatever. You can get what they call a burner number through an app. You In most cases, you don't even have to pay for it. You can literally get a burner number that will still ring your phone. At the end of the day, I would use a burner number and never give my cell phone out.
SPEAKER 08 :
A burner number. Well, that's good. You said that's just an app I look up on.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you can go. I think it's an app called Burner.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, I'm going to check that out.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I would not give anybody my real cell phone number. I would use a burner number only for lots of reasons. Now, real quick, before we go any further, and my wife's going to shoot me, text me afterwards, and maybe I'll just buy it, Mark.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, there you go. No, no, no. Well, actually, that would be good because if we go to a good home, But I know I've talked to your wife several times. You know what she wants from me? My 911. I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know. That's exactly what she wants. I know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
That woman is 100% 911.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, she wants that. No, you are 100% correct, Mark. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
You have deprived her for many years. I think you need to step up to the plate.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, one of these days. I got to quit buying other stuff, I guess, before I do, you know. And I need to quit buying other stuff and then do that is what I really need to do. You're correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm not talking to the right person. Quit buying stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I'm serious. Because I may do a little bit of changing around with some of the vehicles that I've got, and I have wanted one of those just to honestly have, keep, hang out with, you know, that kind of a thing. Mark, it's not something I'd buy and flip or anything. It'd just be something I'd keep and own for a while.
SPEAKER 08 :
This car, you know, besides the pain. Oh, I know the history.
SPEAKER 09 :
You don't have to tell me anything about that car. I know all about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
How many miles are on the new motor?
SPEAKER 1 :
29.
SPEAKER 08 :
29. 29, which is good. It's broken.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I just put $1,400 in it last month for a new air conditioner and $1,400 this month for a new alternator.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
The heavy-duty GM one. I only put GM parts on this car. That's it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's why, I mean, not too many of those I would personally buy except that one. Only because I know all the history of it, because we've talked about it ever since you've owned it.
SPEAKER 08 :
My wife's come home from walking the dogs, so let's have a moment of silence.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good one, Mark. I'm serious. Reach out to me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, you know what? Hang on. Excuse me, Jane. There you go. Okay, she's gone. Thank God.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's too good. Well, really quick, Mark. I'm glad the Volvo turned out well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's fine. I'm just using a product right now. I highly recommend it. Actually, two products. A product called Dr. Color Chip. It's a three-stage process to fill scratches, and it's a VIN number verification on the paint. And it's out of floor. The second product is Malco Leather Conditioner and Cleaner. These seats are sucking up about the fourth quote of the conditioner.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Malco is good stuff. That I know of very well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and so these seats are just sucking it up left and right. And then the new top will be on next week, and then we're done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is it black? I don't remember the Tahoe.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's maybe blue. No, my Tahoe is red fire metallic with tan leather and serious and LT, Bilstein shocks, the whole deal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, yeah. You know how to get a hold of me.
SPEAKER 08 :
I do. So let me ask a question since maybe the public's listening to this too. So the burner phone is good. What else would you list on that sign?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's it. I would not put it. I mean, they're going to see the vehicle anyways. There's not much else you need to put down. I mean, they can't see mileage, so you're going to have to put mileage on there. But I would put mileage, price. They can tell by looking at the vehicle how clean it is. I don't think there's much else you need to list on there. There's no sense in giving a full printout of anything. That's one of those to where I want them to call and less info is better.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, I got nothing to hide. I mean, it's, it is what it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
And well, and again, they're going to see it. So there, I know, I know you, I know the vehicle. You don't really have to do much in telling them what it is. Cause it's there. I mean, whoever came to buy it last night at nine K is just trying to steal it. Well, I told him have a nice day. And I would have said the same. Yeah. And by the way, your, your, your value is your 12 K is not high price. You're fine there. That that's a good price.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, it's got some roof that works and barn doors. And, uh, Got the Bluetooth radio like you had me or Dodge?
SPEAKER 09 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I know you don't like Craigslist, but what other lists do you like?
SPEAKER 09 :
I wouldn't use Craigslist. Facebook Marketplace is what I would do.
SPEAKER 08 :
I guess that would be John Rush, Facebook Marketbook.
SPEAKER 09 :
Facebook Marketplace.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, I'm kind of in shock, John. I'm pleased somebody like you is interested in it. I guess I'll find you one way or the other. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let me know. You know how to find me.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll find you.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Mark. Sounds like a plan.
SPEAKER 08 :
Be grudgingly.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I know, because that's not something that you typically want to get rid of.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's history in your life. I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I hear it.
SPEAKER 08 :
But you always said one thing a long time ago. I said, you've got to know when it's time to cut loose.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. No, and I've got a few of my own I'm doing the same thing with, so I hear you.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, I'll get a hold of you next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sounds great, Mark. Appreciate you very much. Yep, no, thank you very much. And, yeah, I mean, there's not too many vehicles that I would care to own other than I know the history of that vehicle. And that's one of those vehicles that, you know, for the money and for what you could do with that vehicle and the longevity that's still there in it and so on and how long you could keep and drive that vehicle, that's pretty tough to beat. And the transmission is probably done. He's already done it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was going to ask about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's an 03 Tahoe that's really had most everything redone on it. And I know Mark, and he's a very particular individual like myself. So that's, again, one of the few vehicles. And for those of you listening, when you've got a special vehicle like that and you're trying to do something as a sale, yeah, don't cave in on price. You don't have to. You can get top dollar for those vehicles. There's no reason not to do that. And in Mark's case, I know him, and I know the vehicle that – the vehicles, plural, that he owns. And he's got another – for those of you listening, he's got another newer Tahoe is probably why he's looking at doing something with the older one because he's got a new one that he's already bought several years ago to replace that one with. So he's in fine shape, Mark. Mark, you'll be in good shape when it's all said and done. And, yes, those are kind of pieces of history, if you would, when we turn those things over. All right, question of the day. What's a car you drove that provided you the most enjoyment? Give us an answer. We've got plenty of lines open now, 303-477-5600. You can also text us a question, 307-282-22. Okay, before we go to break, I wanted to give you guys a little bit of insurance update because it kind of coincides a little bit with Mark on the buying and selling of cars and so on. So something you need to think about on the insurance side of things. Number one. If you let someone borrow your car, your insurance company, you, are still covering that car no matter what happens. I had a situation here of late with a client of mine whereby somebody drove the car non-family member. So somebody outside the family and the car in front stopped too fast. This car was, of course, behind and there was a front end collision and it totaled the car. Now the car is getting repaired, but it totaled the car. My point is, in this particular case, they were thinking, well, his insurance will cover him driving my car. No, it doesn't. Your insurance and what you have on the vehicle is all that's covering the car. The driver of the car, even though they may have their own insurance, is not going to cover that accident in your car. So anytime you have those conversations where you're thinking about, you know, somebody's going to, you know, borrow that car and they're claiming, well, my insurance will cover it. No, it won't. Whatever you have as insurance is what's going to cover the car, meaning don't let people borrow your car. I mean, that's the bottom line. I'm being very serious about that. Don't let people borrow your car. And I know that's hard sometimes because family members can come to town and things along those lines, and you want to be nice and loan them a car and so on. You're better off in the end, and I mean this in all sincerity, you're better off renting them a car and putting them in that than you are loaning them your car. And I mean that with all sincerity. Do not loan your car to anyone outside of your own immediate family that you have listed as insured drivers on your policy. Outside of that, do not let anybody borrow your car because at the end of the day, if there is some sort of an accident, you're going to be responsible when it's all said and done. It's going to go against you as a claim even. In whatever it happened to be, in this case, it was the fault of that driver, meaning that's going on your policy for those future records on down the road, period. There's nothing you can do about it. Next thing I need to cover really quick is when you buy a car. And everybody thinks, when I buy a car, I'm insured automatically for the first 30 days. Well, you are. But remember, you're only insured off of whatever you have on your other car. So let's say, for example, you own a car now and you have liability only on it. and you go buy another car that is a lot more expensive and you want full coverage on it, you won't have full coverage until you call the insurance company and tell them you want full coverage because otherwise it's going off of whatever your other policy says on the other car you own. And if that's liability only and you go out and buy another car, pay cash for it, it's liability only as well. You don't have full coverage. There's a lot of misconceptions on that where people think, well, I'm just covered. Or if I'm driving Steve's car, me, John, if I go borrow Steve's car, my insurance is covering it. No, it's not. Steve's insurance is covering it. I might have full coverage. Steve might have liability only. At the end of the day, I go wreck Steve's car. Guess what? Steve's out of car. Sure. Because he has liability only. I'm now at fault. I was driving it, meaning Steve was driving it. It's no different. And if the car's wrecked with liability only, you're done. You don't have a car. So you can ruin friendships, by the way, with some of these things, whereby you'd have been better off to begin with in just renting a car at the end of the day versus loaning that car out. I can talk more about that if you've got questions, but it gets really dicey, and insurance companies continually tighten the belt in some of these areas. So really be aware of those things by all means, and don't just assume things before you ask and know exactly what's going on. We'll be right back. Drive Radio. Again, call us. We've got lines open, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are Back Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath, Geno's Auto Service with us. We're going to have Burke Payne join us from BP Appraisals at 11 o'clock. By the way, we're going to talk about some of the things along the insurance lines of what I was mentioning with not just coverages and things like that, but the diminished value end of things where if you have an accident, not even a total. But just an accident, what's that doing to the value of the car? How do you prove that to the insurance company and get your fair value? How do you get made whole again after all of that? We'll talk to Burke here at the top of the hour and go through some of those things with him. Robin Centennial, though, you're next.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's going to be a while before I call you soon. I've got my summer job coming up, and I'll be busy on the weekends.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, well, thank you for listening, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you know me. You can't get rid of me that easily.
SPEAKER 09 :
We would never.
SPEAKER 06 :
Anyway, the most fun car I've ever driven is the one I've had a chance to drive a lot. That's my mother's 5.7 Hemi Charger with the all-wheel drive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Good car, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, I was taking that thing from the springs back to Littleton, and I kept running the pumps on the traffic, so I passed them on the sea pills.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just gun that thing and, wow. Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
When I say good car, really I mean that. They get a bad rap from a lot of different folk and such out there, Rob, and the reality is they're not a bad car at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
It charges a brute. It handles really well. It's got a lovely interior. I love the lines of it. The engine just roars. I have a little bit of guilt when I talk about it, though, because you think you're going to drive it one more time as the winter comes in. So I didn't put any stabilizer in the tank. I think I might put a bottle of Vitekron in it when I start running.
SPEAKER 09 :
Or just put some BG Supercharge in it. One of the two will be fine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hard to find that stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Supercharge, they don't have it at BG where you're at?
SPEAKER 06 :
The Napa, I don't think they have the supercharge. They carry the other stuff like the 44K and such.
SPEAKER 09 :
They should have supercharge on the shelf. It's a great stabilizer.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you can add that to old gas?
SPEAKER 09 :
You can. It's not necessarily a rejuvenator, but it will stop any type of degrade that's already been going on. But I'll tell you this, Rob, on a new car, and I hate to say this, but I will. On a new car, the way they are not vented any longer, that Charger, for example, you could put fuel in that at the beginning of winter, not drive it all winter long, pull it out now, and never know anything is any different.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's good to hear.
SPEAKER 09 :
Trust me, I do it. Most of my newer modern vehicles, I... Because of memory, whatever, I rarely treat those cars through the winter months. I can fire them up in the spring and go drive them with no problem because when they're not vented, that fuel doesn't hit the air, and it's just not degrading like it would in an older vehicle.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is valuable information. Thank you, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so I wouldn't worry about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And ask for your aid. I was cutting up dead branches from the big storm we had last March, the second wet one. And I have a little McCulloch Eager Beaver, the saw that will not die. It's a real fossil. It's an original McCulloch. It's not the Chinese ripoff when they stole the brand name. And it's running weird. It's running kind of powerfully more, and it's killing on the throttle. So I'm going, what's going on with this? And I look down, and it's really howling, and I turn it off because I can't figure out why it would suddenly speed up like that. And I look down, and there's a little black thing lying on the ground. So I pick it up, scream in agony, and put it back down again. The exhaust had fallen off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's fallen right off.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's that old. I mean, how many times do you think I should take off the chain brake, remove the cover, and tighten down the muffler? It's not something you think about. No, it isn't. I never had it off for any other purpose.
SPEAKER 09 :
It isn't. You're right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I take the muffler, you have to take off the outer reed with its Allen wrench, and then you can screw the lower reed back on the body. I can't get the thing to thread. I think it might thread now because it's still in cold cool. It was still pretty hot when I was trying to put it back together the first time. Do you think I should try to tap it out?
SPEAKER 09 :
I would probably run a thread chaser down it. You're not going to hurt anything doing that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Where do you get a thread chaser?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you know, a tap. If you've got a tap that's that same size, just run a tap down it. That's what I meant to say.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, thank you. Anyway, it was a horrible experience, but it's just the thing you don't anticipate that causes the most trouble.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, let me give you a little cheat on that, too, though, really quick, Rob, before I forget. The other thing you could do is squirt a little WD-40 down the hole. Before you run the bolt in, take a hacksaw and just cut a couple of grooves at the very tip of the bolt in four places, and then run the bolt in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Interesting. I've never heard of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's kind of your poor man's thread chaser.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you very much. So it's in the end of the bolt. So I cut across. I cut a little bit across.
SPEAKER 09 :
Cut with the bolt at the very tip. Go down about, I don't know, an eighth of an inch because that bolt's not very big. If it's a bigger bolt, you can go further. But on that one, you just need to take just to put a little groove at the very end where the threads are and put just four, you know, going with the bolt itself. So just put four little grooves around the tip of the bolt, and it kind of acts as a thread chaser that way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Interesting. Thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, and that way you're not having to run around finding a tap and die and all that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Am I going side by side across the bolt, or am I doing an X?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you're doing a straight with the bolt up and down. So if you put the bolt head in the vice, you're going to go right across the threads up and down, about an eighth of an inch down.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm glad I kept asking questions. Sometimes I go off on the wrong track. No, you're fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're fine. Not a problem.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the... The thing is, you have to be able to roll with whatever you've got to. If the motor doesn't sound right, be alert, because something freaky is going on. They do not just go bad on their own. And if there's one piece of equipment you should take good care of and have a lot of respect for, it's the chainsaw. You got it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Those things, you know, Rob, I don't know, maybe just from being young and hearing horror stories and so on, I have the utmost respect for chainsaws.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's why you have all your limbs. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good point, Rob.
SPEAKER 06 :
You have a lovely day, and if I don't talk to you for three months, it's not because I'm angry.
SPEAKER 09 :
I appreciate you, Rob. Thank you very much, man. I mean that sincerely, and I will. I'm not being exaggerationist at all when I talk about chainsaws. I have the utmost respect for those. I hear so many different stories of people that they're using it, and something happens, and it kicks back, and now there's – you know a gash in their knee or their leg or they lose a limb or they die i mean i've heard all sorts of stories over the years and man i have literally the utmost respect for chainsaws and one of those things where i'll use it when i have to but is it my favorite thing to go out and use and i used one even as a kid we used to split wood and go up in the mountains and cut wood beetle kill etc my dad had a wood stove i mean i cut enough wood when i was a kid to last me a lifetime And even then, and there's a lot less safety devices then than there is now, and I used that chainsaw back then with the utmost of respect. Only have long pants on, boots, gloves, eye shield, the whole nine yards. The last thing I ever wanted, to Rob's point, was to lose a limb or anything over having a chainsaw. And a dull blade, by the way. Dull blades are the worst thing you could ever have because they make it even worse. I think more things happen on a lot of saws in general, hacksaws and so on, from having a dull blade versus a sharp blade. You'd think, well, it's dull. How can it be any worse? Because that's when the accidents happen because the thing isn't operating like it should be. Funny how that works. Keeping that maintenance up, even in that area, makes things work where not doing it, the alternative is not so good because you end up with things happening that you really don't want. And again, folks, last thing we want is to see anybody injured or have any problems at all. And I literally have heard stories of people literally dying. from a chainsaw injury because they're off so far away that you you just can't get to where you need to get quickly enough to get whatever's you know damaged handled and that is not a good situation so all right burke payne joining us here in just a few minutes as soon as we come back here at the 11 o'clock hour we're going to talk about diminished value the appraisal process how that works and so on and what he can do to help you if you've had any kind of an accident or anything along those lines where you're trying to be made whole from the insurance company. We'll do that here as soon as we come back. Don't go anywhere. Myself, Steve Horvath, Geno's Auto Service. This is Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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In the latest Drive Radio episode, listeners are given an exclusive insight into the world of car repairs and appraisals. A series of expert guests discuss topics ranging from the challenges faced when finding a reliable service center for a Ford Escape, to understanding the nuances of diminished value after an accident. This is essential listening for car owners looking to safeguard their interests and make informed decisions regarding automotive maintenance and insurance claims.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back again. Burke Payne is with us. I'm going to slip a call in really quick so we give Burke plenty of time to talk about diminished value and all of that. So Mike in Highlands Ranch, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, John. Hey, Mike. Always good to chat with you. My question involves a 2015 Ford Escape SE. Okay. 77,211 miles. It's down in, it belongs to a dear friend of mine in West Palm Beach who manages a condo down there. And I, you know, after chatting with her about some of the things she was concerned about, I thought I found, I think I found a shop down there that is reliable and ASE, Napa Place, but it's hard to tell from up here, you know? I don't have you guys.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, I agree. I hear you.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 09 :
I hear you.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I got, we, she ended up having, the rear brake pads were gone. Front rotors were worn down, and they only had 20% left. I told her to replace those. She did. And I got a description from them. I asked them to do a vehicle check, you know, like you would with a car you're buying.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, and I said, you know, what's it going to cost her? They said $150 or something. $200. I said, well, that's reasonable. I get it. And so I have a readout that they sent me. I tried to talk to them on the phone. I have talked to them on the phone. And I've got various computer codes that they said, here's a PO-171. It's too lean. Here's a PO-18C, fuel pressure circuit B. ABSU 3000-48. What I would like to do, I don't know if Larry's there or still there, I'd like to take this into one of your shops and say, tell me what this means. Because I've listened to you enough that you can plug it in, but if you don't have the right, how do I put this, John? If you don't have the right factory code reader, and I'll get this wrong, so help me out here, just plugging in a code reader doesn't do you much good. You could get 15 codes, and then you've got to sort through those 15 different codes to figure out which one works. Sure. And that's my understanding.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I'm more than happy to talk to you on Monday or something like that because it sounds like there's quite a few I'd have to do some research on. But I'm more than happy to sit down and talk to you about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Larry, is this you?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, this is Steve. This is Steve.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, hi, Steve. Hi. Yeah, no, I'll try to get over there with this readout because I'd like to try to help her. She's an old dear friend.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I need to understand what they're saying.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER 10 :
um and so i can't help her very much unless i get oh you're correct on that no you can't until you know a little more what you do you get a little well what's that old saying mike knowledge is everything to get a little bit more knowledge on it it's hard to you know it's hard to help well we all love data the better the more you got the better all right well listen thank you you bet ph uh Mr. Horvath, and you've done great work for me, so I will stop by there on Monday. and ask your folks to take a look at it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And ask for me. I'll just bring you back in the office, and we'll look it up together. You and I will figure it out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're the man, Mike. Appreciate you very much. Bye-bye. All right, take care. All right, let's do this. I'm going to give Burke plenty of time. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back, give him a long segment that way. We'll talk about diminished value. So, guys, hang tight. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Burt Payne joining us now from BP Appraisals. Burt, welcome back. I know you're on with us at Fix It Radio, but I wanted to do this on Drive Radio because we've got a lot of listeners in the car end of things talking about diminished value and things along those lines. So before we get started, for all of you listening, Burt's a certified appraiser. And, Burke, really quick, talk about that. Again, we've had you on Fix-It Radio many, many times in the past. We've had you on here once or twice in the past as well, but never probably done it quite this way in this time slot. So people that are listening that maybe aren't familiar with you, explain what you do, who you are, and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I'm the owner of BP Appraisals. I'm a member of the American Society of Appraisers and, in particular, the Automotive Specialty Group. Which means I go through continuing education throughout the year to stay up to date on what's current in the market, what's current with appraisals, that kind of thing. In fact, we're headed out to D.C. next week for our annual conference. But all of our appraisals, we write our appraisals so that the IRS will accept them. And they're written under what's called the Uniform Standard of Professional Appraisal Practice. And you know as well as I do, if the IRS will accept the document, that it's pretty legit.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Agree. OK, so all that being said, for those of you listening, Burke can appraise not only gun collections. He does that. We've talked about that on Fix It Radio as well. But on the car sides of things, really, guys, he can help you. And I think a lot of people, Burke, have this misconception that I don't have an old car. I don't need Burke. Well, if you've had an accident, you may very well need you. Or if you're looking at even buying a car, being a classic or something along those lines, they still need you. So let's talk about diminished value.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. So the quick example of diminished value is if you have car A that has zero accidents and you have car B that has one accident, and everything else is exactly the same, the average person is going to pay more, the value of car A is going to be higher, then carby with the accident, and that's called diminished value.
SPEAKER 09 :
For everybody listening, really quick, I've been watching a few videos on this, and I know our phone listens, Burke, because I've had videos that have cropped up after just you and I being texting and doing some things back and forth, so I know it tracks what we're doing because it's ironic that I get... some videos on this after you and I start discussing you being on. Anyways, long story short, I watched a few videos here of late. And for those of you listening, especially on some of the higher end vehicles, it's true with all vehicles. It's just a difference in percentage. But I was watching a video, Burke, the other day where I think it was a Mercedes dealership and there was somebody looking to trade a particular vehicle in. And the Carfax report showed that it actually had had a some damage done to it and kind of listed what the damage was and so on. In this particular case, because it was a higher-end vehicle, they were hitting this used car trade value at 10K off of what it normally would have been because they knew what that accident would do, proving the point of what you're talking about.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And you also have to look at what parts were used. Were OEM parts used? Were aftermarket parts used? Particularly, like you said, these higher-end vehicles, the Mercedes, the BMWs and that, a lot of the insurance companies will try to put aftermarket parts on the aftermarket fender and that. And it's not the same quality as an OEM part.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it is not. And really quick, I'm glad you said that, too, because you just reminded me of something. Those of you listening, please read your policy. Depending upon the age of your vehicle, your policy may very well even inside of it say, if your vehicle is five years or more old, we have the option of using used and or aftermarket parts. And your policy might actually even say that, Burke.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. It definitely can. You can also purchase a rider that keeps the OEM parts on the older cars.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
But that's an additional expense.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct. And, again, we're talking about things, Burke, that, frankly, until somebody's in an accident, they probably know nothing about any of this because it's not something that you normally would go into your policy, dig into, and see exactly what it says. But I know from experience, helping people through the show and so on, that that's exactly how it works. There are certain situations where you get a 10-year-old vehicle, for example. Chances of you getting OEM parts on a 10-year-old vehicle from the insurance company, good luck.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. It's definitely difficult. And, you know, the insurance companies, you know, they're obviously out there to make money. And, you know, as much as your agent, you may think your agent's your friend, you really got to look at those numbers.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. Okay. So we talk about diminished value. How do we then get made whole from, in some cases, it might be our own insurance company because we were at fault, could be the other party's insurance company because they were at fault. Either way, how do we get made whole?
SPEAKER 11 :
So basically what happens is you hire BP appraisals. We come in and we determine how much actual loss has occurred. Not, you know, the insurance company, let's assume the insurance company is going to take you to a body shop. They're going to make it whole. They're going to use OEM parts, all that. There's still that diminished value. When you go to trade it in to sell it down the road, you're going to get less because that vehicle has been in an accident. And you are entitled to be made whole, and that's where the diminished value comes in.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right. And that's where you can come into play and help them, quote-unquote, be made whole, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And we over-document stuff. My diminished value, my car appraisals, they're all probably 50 to 60 pages long, and I over-document things. Because I want, when the independent appraiser from the insurance company sees my report, I want them to go, I don't have anywhere to fight this at. Let's just go with this number. And, you know, I'm having some really great success. I've got, you know, the insurance company's appraisers calling me up saying, what's your number? Okay, we're good with it. We see it. Let's go. Let's write the check today.
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you feel, and I know you mentioned this during Fix It Radio, but what do you feel on average? And I know it was a big spread because we can go all the way to that higher-end car. There could be a 10, 15, 20K diminished value, by the way, for some of you listening. Exotics, and you know this, Burke, some of the exotics, and I'm not exaggerating, some exotics could be 50 to 100K in diminished value depending upon how it was wrecked, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Because, you know, the guy that's buying that exotic doesn't want to wreck the one.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. So my question back to you, on a normal, everyday-type basis with most people driving and so on, on average, what do you feel you're able to return to people on the diminished value end of things once you're involved?
SPEAKER 11 :
I would say anywhere between $25,000 and $3,000 on the diminished value side of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a lot. Yeah, and for those of you listening, folks, that's worth a phone call to you, Burke.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely, and that's the one thing. Diminished value, total loss, even your average day, your classic vehicle. I'm going to give you a free look at the numbers. You send me the information that the insurance company is offering you, and I'll run it through my system real quick and see what kind of numbers we're talking about. You know, on total losses, you know, I mean, we're averaging right now about $4,000 extra for each client on the total loss. And that's quite a bit when you look at trying to buy another car to replace your car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. To your point, and this is true because some of you listening are thinking, well, I'm not going to sell the car anytime soon. I'm just going to keep it and drive it. So what difference does it make? You still are going to be at a loss. When you sell that car, unless you literally, Burke, just wear it out and get it to the point where it's an average car like everything else, which, by the way, very, very, very, very few people do, so you're going to have diminished value when you go to get rid of that car, even if it's three to five years from now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And the thing is that you're owed that diminished value. That's part of your insurance policy is bringing you back home. And, you know, even if you're keeping it, you know, it's still worth at least looking at it. and seeing what the numbers look like. And the thing is that my clients really don't do any of the fighting once they hire me. I take care of everything. I deal with the insurance company's appraiser. My clients get a phone call from me saying, hey, this is what the insurance company is now offering. I think we can push it up higher, or hey, this is a good number, let's take it. I give you that information. I won't make a deal until I've got my client saying, yeah, I'm good with that number.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe I'm speaking out of turn, Burke, but I am guessing that more often than not, you're going to be able to come in and say, yep, I see what they're offering you. I see what we could be getting if we had a little bit of documentation to back up where our diminished value is. Let's go after that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely, and that's where that free consultation comes in, because I look at the numbers, and I'm not going to take, you know, I've got enough work on my plate. I'm not going to take, you know, a claim that if I can't get you more, at least more, well, significantly more than my fee, I'm not taking the case. I'm going to say, hey, you know, they're $1,000 off. Here's what you need to tell them, you know, and I'll give you some pointers to deal with the insurance company. Now, if we're talking two or three grand, I'm going to say, hey, you know, this is one where we can get you some money out of this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Question for you. And I think I may already know the answer just because I know how the insurance company ends of things are working. Question for you. Are they getting harder to deal with?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes and no. And I know that's a trick question. But some insurance companies, particularly... the at-fault driver's insurance company have been balking at the appraisal clause. So one of the things when you're in an accident and you don't agree with the amount that the insurance company is offering, there's an appraisal clause in almost all insurance companies. Now there are some, I don't want to call them fly-by-night, but maybe some lesser established insurance companies who are fighting that appraisal clause and saying that you're not that the not-at-fault driver is not able to invoke the appraisal clause. But that's not a deal breaker because then we just go back to our own insurance company and file it as an underinsured motorist claim and go about it that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Again, for all of you listening, what we're really trying to get to here is make sure you're made whole after these things are done. And, Burke, I've been told by even some great friends of mine that, well, I just don't want to go through the hassle and I don't want to make waves with the insurance company. I don't want to be a trouble to them and this, that, and the other. And I'm thinking to myself, Why? This is money owed to you. Why would you not go after it? This is like, you know, buying an expensive refrigerator that quits the next day and not wanting to take it back to get it replaced.
SPEAKER 11 :
A hundred percent. You know, and I tell people this all the time. We pay our insurance companies to do to to make us whole. And that's their job. You know, that's why we all pay our monthly, you know, monthly fee or six every six months, whatever it is. That's why we pay it, because we want to make be made whole. And, you know, one of the big things right now is the insurance companies are using what's called the CCC1 evaluation. So if you're in an accident, your insurance company is going to send you what they call a true value estimate of your vehicle. And I can guarantee if it says CCC1 evaluation, you dang well better pick up that phone and call me because they're leaving money on the table.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, good to know. Again, thank you, Burke. I know, as you know, a lot about these things just because of what I do on a regular basis plus what I do here and so on. That's something I did not know, so thank you for that. And everybody listening, please make sure you paid attention. Make sure you say that one more time, Burke.
SPEAKER 11 :
The CC1 evaluation is notoriously low in value. I mean, I'm looking at my numbers just from this last quarter, and we had one client we got an extra $4,199 for, another one $4,800 extra, another one $9,000 over what the insurance company initially offered. And the thing is that, like I said, my clients, once they hire me, Let me do the work. I take care of it. The insurance company and I, we deal with it. And I'm getting these checks. By the time I get the other, the insurance company's independent appraiser,
SPEAKER 09 :
report these things are closed out in 72 hours usually so in a lot of ways you're you're really like and i hope i i hope i'm saying this correctly burke in a lot of ways as i've talked about i've talked about uh you know public adjusters on the house end of things a lot on fix it radio over the years in a lot of ways you're sort of filling in on the car end of things like a public adjuster would on the house end of things
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, absolutely. Just keeping everybody honest, I guess, is the best way to look at it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Great way to say it. Well, Burke, number one, thank you again. I appreciate you taking time twice today. You joined us on Fix It Radio this morning, joining us now. And for those of you listening, too, this applies. Burke can do all sorts of things from those of you that may be inheriting things like gun collections. And by the way, I say collection. It could be two or three different types of pieces that maybe you look at and think, wow, this looks like it's got some – history to it and so on. Again, Burke, this is one of those things where they could click a few pictures and send it to you and you can make a determination pretty quickly as to, yeah, let's do an appraisal or let's not. That thing's really not worth the iron that it's using to make the gun with and things along those lines. I mean, the reality is you could tell people exactly what they need to do just off a few pictures, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And like I said, I'm not going to charge someone for something that isn't worth their time and my time.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. All right. Well, again, thank you very much. I appreciate, number one, what you've done for us, our listeners, all of that. I mean, I get comments from folks that I send to you on an ongoing basis. I know what you do. I know the value that you bring. And you do a great job, and I appreciate it. For those of you listening, Burke's number, 720-295-0108, 720-295-0108. If you're driving, you forget that. Go to our website, drive-radio.com. You'll see Burke, BP Appraisers listed there as well. You can call him and get through to him by using that as well. But, Burke, again, I appreciate it. And for those of you listening, if you have an accident now or you need, you hopefully don't have any in the future, but things happen, Burke. That's why they're called accidents, because we don't plan on them. Now, one last question before I let you go. Is there a time frame? Let's say somebody had an accident, I don't know, two months ago. Things have kind of been settled. Can they go back and do diminished value, or is there a time period where they can't?
SPEAKER 11 :
usually we can't do a diminished value once they've signed the check and said, okay, I'm accepting this as the final payment.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Unless it's a third-party accident where we need to go back and actually either sue the at-fault driver or sue the at-fault insurance company. Okay, gotcha. But we've also handled cases, you know, we recently did an accident that occurred in October of 2024. Wow. And... Yeah, this lady, the insurance company was stonewalling her, not wanting to give her what her vehicle was worth. And in fact, we got her over $9,500 more than what the insurance company's initial offer was. And the thing is that she hired us. And I don't remember the exact date, but it was the 1st of April, and we had it done by the 15th of April.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nice. Nice.
SPEAKER 11 :
And after October of 24, that was a long time ago. And she'd been fighting. She'd been trying to do it on her own. And it's tough. We're all trying to run our lives and everything else. And you can't follow up with the insurance company all the time. And a lot of times we don't know what to say. to the insurance company. We don't know about the appraisal clause, and that's why, like you said, if you've been in an accident, give me a call. At least let me look at the numbers for you. I'll do it free of charge. If I can get you more, then we'll make a deal and we'll go from there. But if not, I'm going to steer you in the right direction.
SPEAKER 09 :
Again, Burke, thank you. You're awesome. Appreciate all you've done for our listeners. We'll keep sending you folks.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Sounds great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, man. Appreciate you very much. Have a great rest of your day. Jeff in Montana, hang tight. We'll come right back to you. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath, Geno's Auto Service, and Jeff from Montana. What's going on, sir?
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, I wanted to ask a question, but I wondered if there was a difference between insurance companies. I've been with USAA for decades. I know some insurance companies are better than others at giving people a good value. And also another question is whether he is. just works in Colorado or for other states as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we talked about that during Fix It Radio, and for all of you listening, if you've got friends, family, anyone like that that's out of state when it comes to diminished value things, he by all means can help do those things out of state. When it comes to appraising the classic cars and so on, he wants to put his eyes and fingers and so on on that car, so that's something where you'd have to have the car available. But the diminished value end of it, Jeff, yeah, he can do that nationwide, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And I sent you a text about what you were talking on Fix-It Radio about insurance, third-party driving your vehicle. And I asked you a question whether it applied in Colorado or nationwide. And you said, yes, it does. And I didn't understand the answer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nationwide. Yeah, that's one of those things where on the insurance company end of things, unless there is a state that I don't know of, the policy goes with the car, not with the driver. And I don't think that changes from state to state that I know of, Jeff. Now, maybe I'm wrong. I know in Canada it's a little bit different. Somebody is listening up there. I know you're going to say, well, no, up here it goes by the driver. Well, that's not the case down here. As far as I know, Jeff, you're insuring the car. There are in some cases even some, you know. This is where it gets into, you know, teen drivers and things like that where you better make sure you've got your ducks in a row because there can be even exclusions to where if, for example, and this is for all of you listening, by the way, for example, you've got a family member that has a blow and go. So, you know, one of the DUI devices. And you've got a family member that has a blow and go. If that person gets in your car and drives, number one, they're illegal driving it. They're not allowed to. But second of all, you may actually not be insured with them driving the car because of the fact they're supposed to have a blow-and-go. They'll look to get out of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, that's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
That insurance company will look to everything they can to get out of that claim. My point with all that, Jeff, is a lot of people just think willy-nilly, oh yeah, go drive my car, it's insured, it's no problem. Well, yeah, the car is, but who is that driver? Do they have a valid driver's license? What's their age? On and on we go. I think far too many people just think, oh, I'm insured, go drive my car. It's not that simple.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that would have been good to know, because I was driving my car for several months, and she had her insurance. I didn't realize that she was... My insurance was really covering her as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, well, in that case, your insurance is only covering her. That's the misconception. A lot of people think, well, I've got insurance. I'm the driver. I'll be good. Yeah, unless you've bought something very specific that would insure you in that particular case, that's generally not the case.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, well, I appreciate it again, gents.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're very welcome, Jeff. Great questions, by the way. And I think there's a lot of folks out there that have either misconceptions on insurance or something's been passed down through the years from maybe even generation to generation, and they just think that, well, that's the way it used to be, so it's the way it is today. And Steve knows this as well as I. This is nothing against insurance companies. They're there. They serve a purpose. They're trying to make money. A lot of the insurance companies are in the Fortune 500 or even Fortune 100 in the country, meaning they're making a boatload of money. They do their very best to keep claims minimized. Trust me in this. I will tell you straight up, if they can find the way out of a claim, Believe you me, they will find their way out. And I'm not talking bad about insurance companies, folks. This is just the way it is. It's business. Exactly. So if they've got a way out, you, for example, have a policy and there are certain people in your family that aren't allowed to drive that vehicle, but all of a sudden they do, be very careful because they're liable to just tell you you're not insured.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. I think it's actually a good idea. If you're going to loan a car to somebody or you're going to let somebody borrow it, let your insurance company know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Put them on your insurance? I would at least make a phone call and say, hey, I've got a family member coming to town. I was thinking of loaning them my vehicle. Am I going to be okay in doing so? Are they covered? You know, so on and so forth. You know, call your agent. Ask a few questions. You're better off doing that on the front side than you are trying to figure out things if there's an accident on the back side. And that's why we use... you know insurance agents that we have relationships with not online back again yeah back to that again yeah back to paul and folks like that you know you you want to call somebody on the phone and say hey this is where i'm at this is what potentially is going to be happening am i going to be okay you know we as owners you know steve i and others you guys that are business owners we do this all the time there will be things that come up where we're like okay If we do X, Y, Z, are we going to be covered in doing it? And by the way, sometimes we've encountered this. Sometimes what the insurance company will do is they'll come back and say, well, technically, yes, but if it were me, I wouldn't do that. Now, what that tells me is, I guess if I wanted to push hard enough, I can get that claim covered. But what they're really telling me is that's not a great idea. I probably would do something different. If your agent is telling you, I would do something different, I would do something different.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, it reminded me when you said this stuff. The first thing I do when I hire somebody is send my insurance company their driver's license.
SPEAKER 09 :
Run their record. That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, run their record. Can they be insured? Because there's times they'll come back and they'll say, no, you can't have them driving customers' cars. And, you know, there's a reason for that, obviously. Right. You're exposed now.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. Question came in. We can answer this really quick, too. Does BGMOA sort of give regular motor oil high mileage oil properties like seal conditioners and so on? Not really. What MOA is doing is it's adding some additional additives and things to the existing oil, making it last longer longer. I could get into all of the details, which would bore a lot of you, but the reality is it's an ad pack on top of what you already got with the oil you're putting in. Is there maybe a little bit of seal conditioner and so on in it? Potentially, but is it going to fix an oil leak? No. No, not that I've ever experienced. I've never poured a can of MOA into anything and had it seal up an oil leak. Have you? No, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe the RF7 might help, but I don't know. That's a different product. Yeah, that's a different product within PG.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, to me, I've... Now, what I will say is using MOA on a regular basis will keep those seals from getting hard and brittle and so on, and that's one of the reasons why you'd want to use it. So that's the plus side to that. But no, the MOA doesn't technically change, nor will they advertise that it's taking your current oil and making it some sort of a high-mileage oil, things along those lines. If you're on a 4,000-mile oil interval and you're using MOA, you're still changing oil at 4,000 miles. You're not able to up that to 5,000, 6,000, 7,000 miles. That's not the idea behind MOA. I just want to make sure that I'm clear on that. Mark and Wiggins, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, good morning. I just heard you guys talking about drivers as far as letting somebody drive your vehicle, and that brought up a question. Is there a way without like calling law enforcement to verify a driver's license?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not following you. Say that again, Mark.
SPEAKER 12 :
So say you have a family member that says, hey, can I borrow a vehicle? And you're like, oh, yeah, you're my brother or whatever, but you don't know that maybe their license is suspended.
SPEAKER 09 :
Your agent could tell you. You could take their license, take a copy of it, send it in to your agent. They'll send it through their system and tell you whether or not that is a good license or not. There's no other way to do it besides that. Oh, I had no idea you could do that. Absolutely they will.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's awesome. I'm so glad I called.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you know what? That's a great question. I don't think we've ever covered that before, Mark. These types of questions, I don't think we've ever covered. So that's a great question. A lot of folks don't realize that, yes, you can call your insurance company and say, listen, I want you to run a DMV report. You know, I want you to run a check. On this particular driver, I've got a neighbor, for example, that would like to borrow my truck to go get a load of lumber from, you know, Home Depot or whatever the case may be. Are they okay to drive my truck? Here's their license and so on. I would verify. If you're even thinking about doing something along those lines, I would verify that.
SPEAKER 12 :
I have never heard of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
We do it in the business world, Mark, constantly.
SPEAKER 12 :
I really don't let people drive my cars at all. Like me, my wife, that's it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Well, and again, it's one of those things, Mark, and this is where, you know, we're just trying to help people because it's always that, well, I really wasn't thinking about it. We just let them drive it, and it was, you know, kind of this on a whim thing, and nobody really thought through it. It's the unplanned things that always come back to bite you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. Yeah, I know people that don't always think about liability, and that can bite you in a big way. You know, I'm glad I listened to the show because years ago, I didn't even know what an umbrella policy was. And then you guys started talking about that, and I was like, oh, what's that? I should get one. Okay. And so now I have that umbrella policy, which is like a million dollars in case I do something goofy above and beyond the regular insurance, but I'm covered, and it's cheap. I think it was like $30, $40. It's not that expensive.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's well worth it. It's very well worth it. I've had many people I've known that have used that umbrella policy. It's saved them a lot.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not only just heartache and everything. And you know what's funny? Most of the time when you've got one, you rarely ever use it because you have it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's why it's called an umbrella policy.
SPEAKER 12 :
When we lived in Greeley years ago, I had this hunch. God was telling me, you need to get some flood insurance. I'm like, why would we need it? We've never had a flood. We've lived here for years. I watch the weather. I pay attention. It's never been an issue. But I felt like the Lord was saying, you need to this year get flood insurance. And so I called. I got insurance through the FEMA process, and there's a cooling period, which was like 60 or 90 days or something like that. No kidding, that spring is when we had those massive floods, and it came within a half a mile of our house.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, you called that one right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I didn't need it. And I was like, I'm so glad I didn't need that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Great idea. Good story, Mark. Good story.
SPEAKER 12 :
Two stories. One is about the question of the day, which which I want to stay for the last part. But yesterday I called in about cell phone. Yes. Being able to text on, you know, to be able to get text messages through Android.
SPEAKER 09 :
If your phone is damaged, how do you handle things? Was our question yesterday on Ready Radio.
SPEAKER 12 :
So my screen had broke. My dog had decided it was a chew toy. And, you know, you could still kind of see the screen, but you couldn't answer any calls. Like if the phone rang, you couldn't answer it. You couldn't swipe to text or anything. So it was kind of inoperative. And it was really frustrating. And I thought, well, okay, well, I need to check banks and do some banking. Well, I couldn't do any two-step verification because you have to be able to answer the phone or receive a text message. So that made me feel really vulnerable. So yesterday, after talking to you, I figured it out. So on Android, if you have an Android and you go into Settings, And what made me think about this is when you brought up the IME code.
SPEAKER 09 :
IME, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I never thought to maybe jot that down in my journal. So I thought, let's go find that. Well, in the process of doing that, I found the answer. So in Settings, there's a tab called Connections.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
Under Connections... I scrolled all the way to the very bottom, and it's not like a normal tab. It almost looks like it says, are you looking for something else? And it says Samsung Cloud, secure Wi-Fi, and then it says link to Windows. And I was like, oh, what's that? So I just started going through these things, and I clicked on link to Windows. And so then it puts you through a prompt that you need to link an account to your phone. And it prompted me to go to, I want to say it was like Microsoft. And I didn't have, I don't have a Hotmail account. So I thought, well, I will try my Gmail and see if it'll work. And then, you know, if it asks for my password, we'll go through that. Well, I punched in my Gmail and instead of asking for a password, it sent a code to my Gmail saying, that you punch in, and you verify that process through that code. And then it says, okay, now you can link your computer. Add computer under link to Windows. So it says link account. I had my email, so I clicked on that. Then it says, okay, add computer. And then you kind of do – it's almost like a seven – you know, seven step process, but then, you know, you can do that process by, by linking the computer and then a window pops up, you know, it said, go to, Oh, I remember it said, go to a specific website. And then that website gave me another code to do another verification. And once I did that, then a window popped open that basically had, it was almost like a user interface of my phone. Nice. Where it had email.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nice. Good job, Mark.
SPEAKER 12 :
It even said, like, you know, my battery level, whether my Wi-Fi was connected. And I'm like, no way. I figured it out. Like, I've gone through YouTube. I've been looking for months how to figure this out since then because this has happened twice. This is not new. And I thought, well, I'm going to send John a text through my computer. And so I did, you know, last night, which I think you got later. But that's how I did it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Awesome. Mark, I've got to run to break, but good story. No, thank you for that. And you might want to remind us of that on Ready Radio again this coming Friday so we can chat about that again.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, well, I had one more comment. Okay, hang on.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let me put you on hold then because we're running out of time here really quick. Let me put you back on hold. We'll come back here in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 12 :
A comment about the question of the day. The most enjoyment I've had in a vehicle. So there's two of those. One would have been a WRX STI. And I am not going to tell you what the top speed I got on that thing is because I just don't want to get myself in trouble, which probably isn't going to happen. But the second one was when I was in high school, I had a friend who lived in Glenwood Springs. And his dad had brought him a, I think it was a 1976 or 1978 Datsun 280Z silver with a manual transmission, and it was cherry. I mean, clean. Mm-hmm. You know, paint was pristine. And I didn't even realize that they had fuel injection back then, but this thing did. And it ran good, but he was not a mechanically inclined person at all. I mean, he didn't even know how to check oil in his own vehicles, which was kind of embarrassing. You know, like, hey, man, you got to be able to check the oil. But anyway, I digress on that. So I said, hey, how about in exchange... I helped fix this vehicle up because I think we had to work on the brakes. And it was a hydraulic clutch system for the, was it like a slave cylinder? And so we got all that fixed up and running great. And he was like, you know, at the time, I had a 79 GMC short bed, which unfortunately I crashed in a snowstorm going through Climax Mine. I was visiting my sister with bald tires, and I learned my lesson. I got a job at Big O in Napa, and I learned about tires and parts anyway. So I got this little Geo Metro, and I am a big guy. and this car is, like, tiny. So I got made fun of a lot. Like, what are you doing, you know, a huge guy driving this tiny car? And I said, well, the thing gets, like, $50 a gallon, and with gas at $0.80, you know, I could go forever, you know, with some change out of the couch. But anyway, so he wanted to take a trip out to visit some colleges, I think in, like, Oklahoma or something. So he said, can I borrow your GeoMetro? in exchange for driving the 280Z. And I said, yeah, of course I would. And so I got to power that thing through Glenwood Springs and then take it peak to peak highway. And I was like, man, if there's a sports car to have, it's one of those. And I got on forums later in life and found that guys were actually ripping the six-cylinder out and throwing Chevy 350s in these things. And they said it like as if it was made to go in there, like hardly an adapter needed.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was a common thing back then, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
So that was my comment. It was a really good ride.
SPEAKER 09 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 12 :
Really good ride.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Mark, I appreciate you. Have a great rest of your day. Let's do this. We'll go to the top of the hour break. Howard and Bob will give you plenty of time when we come back. We have one line open, 303-477-5600. Don't forget, you can send us a text message as well, 307-282-22307. Again, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service with me today. Larry Unger answering phones. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer. We'll be right back, guys. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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