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In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush dives into a heated discussion with Jim Paff of the conservative caucus. They dissect Donald Trump's recent speech, the ongoing conflict with Democratic strategies, and the essence of federal spending, emphasizing the theme of taxation being tantamount to theft. Rush and Paff weave through a range of topics from the impact of Elon Musk's business practices to a critique of Marxist influences within the Democratic Party. They further explore the implications of governmental efficiency—or lack thereof—contrasting it with private sector practices and the persistent challenge of inflation.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening to us. Jim Paff joining us now, conservative caucus. Jim, how are you this week? I'm doing well. How are you doing, John? You're doing very well. What did you think of Donald Trump the other night?
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought it was fantastic. I mean, what really pleases me about Donald Trump's speech is, first of all, the fact that he's really on his game. And that is really important to see. I mean, he's always been pretty excellent in what he's done in politics. But he's got it all fine-tuned, zoned in. And on top of that, it's probably the greatest two months in a presidential term in history. It's so fantastic to watch what's going on and a lot of hope for the future. And I think he showed that. Then Democrats looked stupid. And that was an interesting contrast to observe.
SPEAKER 18 :
They did. And, you know, there are those that would say that he was maybe a little too harsh on them. I'm not one of those, by the way. at all, Jim, because I feel like they need to be put in their place. And I think Donald Trump did a really good job of that. And I know people would tell me that, no, John, you're thinking incorrectly. We're not going to do well in the midterms if we go about it that way and so on. And my feeling is the midterms are so far away, no one's going to think about that at that point in time. So that's irrelevant right now. The Democrats right now, given everything that's happened to this country of late, they need to put in their place.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, listen, these people have been seeking to destroy every liberty that we have as Americans. They have no respect for the Constitution. They have no thought of the Constitution. They don't even care about the people. Listen, I've been posting many times on my X profile, day whatever, of Democrats for the bureaucrats. The Democrats are in tears today. for the jobs of bureaucrats. And by the way, I mean, there are definitely some federal employees who do a fantastic job, and they're beneficial in the job that they have. But the reality is this. This thing has gone so far that we've got to turn it back. And no American sits back and says, I hope federal employees are doing good today. It's crazy. And that's where they're at. And Democrats stand for three things. This is what's going to kill them in the midterms unless they can get it changed. They stand for allowing men to go into girls' restrooms and locker rooms. They stand for the federal bureaucrats, as I mentioned, but they also are working hard to keep criminal illegals in the United States, as we just saw with this hearing this week.
SPEAKER 18 :
And let's add one more thing to it as well, which I think is a big factor too, Jim, when it comes to these things. So I would add even a fourth leg to this, and that is the fact that the signs that said Musk steals, number one, I think the average American knows there is waste, fraud, and abuse in federal government. Elon Musk is not stealing anything. He's actually trying to give back to the people that have really put their hard-earned money into the country in the first place in the form of taxes. And he knows that. They know that. And the Democrats can't figure that out. By the way, I hope they don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, they're insane by saying things like Elon Musk steals. And keep in mind, it partly comes from their opposition to him heading up the whole Doge effort. But it also comes from their Marxist ideology, and they literally are Marxist. I mean, we have to admit the fact that elected Democrats in Washington are Marxist, and they think that any wealthy person is stealing from everyone else, which is an absurdity.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, the reality is, as always, Jim, and I'm with you every single day I come on here talking about the left being Marxists. I don't call them Democrats anymore. They are all out Marxists through and through. Their end goal is to replace God in everything, take over, be the powerful over the powerless. I mean, that's the end goal when it's all said and done. And to your point a moment ago, the reality is that that is their whole goal. They are out to do that. They have done a really good job of that, by the way. Until now, the tides are starting to turn a little bit. And the reality is they're always hypocrites. They're always pointing at somebody else as to what they're doing. In other words, they're telling everybody that Musk steals. The reality is, Jim, you know this as well as I, they steal.
SPEAKER 06 :
We work, every one of us Americans, nearly half the year before we start earning income for ourselves. And we take it in during the year, but they grab up all of our income. They talk about, we need billionaires to pay their fair share. Listen, what about all of us that are spending 40 to 50 percent of our year paying our taxes? They're the thieves. You know, the old libertarian meme, which I agree with, taxation is theft. It is. Even the taxation we agree on. to undertake for the from government purposes that are far restrained you know in the limited government system if we were as limited a government system as we were at our founding that's still theft now it's voluntary theft if we agree to do it but this is and we have agreed But this has gone so much further.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you know, I'm going to jump in for a minute. Yeah, we kind of agree, and we have tax code along those lines. But, Jim, there are times where, I mean, I think people would say that, yes, it's volunteer, and yes, we agree. But on the same token, if you decide you don't agree and you don't want to be a volunteer anymore, you're going to jail.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, this is what I was getting to. So we had this progressive project begin at the beginning of the 20th century that started with the Teddy Roosevelt administration but came in earnest through the Wilson administration where we had the imposition of the Federal Reserve and the imposition of the income tax, which they said was just going to be for the wealthy people. Don't ever believe this. tax the wealthy thing. It always comes back to you. But at that time, government went haywire. We were beginning to go off the gold standard. The Federal Reserve began to jack up the money. And we pay taxes in inflation. I mean, this whole inflation thing that we're going through right now, you can tell me, blame Donald Trump all you want to, Democrats. And by the way, how can you after two months? But we just went through the biggest... time of expanded government spending and massive printing from the Federal Reserve. And what in the world else do you think you're going to get? You're going to get massive inflation. And these people, that's how they steal from us. Government steals. It does not create. It doesn't innovate. It steals.
SPEAKER 18 :
Jim, it's It's incomprehensible. They don't know how. They can't. The system isn't set up to do that. And, yeah, I agree with you on all fronts. They are set up to literally become thieves for us. And it's why I'm one where I've said this over and over again on this program of recent weeks. I've been saying it for a long time, but especially lately with Doge. 2.4 million federal workers. And, Jim, I would have a hard time being convinced that you couldn't run it on about a third of them.
SPEAKER 06 :
I totally agree with you. And FYI, we got a kind of a mini example of this. That's a thing called X. You know, Twitter had he got rid of 8000 employees and X is doing just fine. Right. And they're beginning to get their legs financially. In fact, they have for some time. This happens in the private sector. We come to a place. in the private sector work where if you don't make enough profit, you can't continue to operate. This is just basic economics. And the government is not restricted to the ideas of the market.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, because they can print money where the private sector can't, Jim.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we don't follow the limits of the Constitution. So I've been saying, for example, the waste and fraud money that some of these courts are trying to stop doge, you know, the Donald Trump's administration from pulling back. There is no authorization in the Constitution for Congress to spend money on fraud. And it is the duty of a president of the United States, when you have government programs where money is going out, but without discussing the validity of those programs, if you have a government program that Congress initiated and there's fraud in it, he's duty-bound as president to stop that. So there's no authorization for fraud anywhere in the Constitution. And we're seeing more and more of it through what Doge is revealing. We've got a long way to go, but this is showing how bad things really are.
SPEAKER 18 :
Jim, and I think guys like us, we've known for a long time how bad it was. And I, by the way, I've not been shocked at anything because you and I, through the years, you've sat in my chair. I've interviewed enough people over the years to talk about some of these things. Folks that dig into this on a routine basis, open the books, organizations like that. The reality is there have been people out there looking at this for quite some time. It hasn't become, up until now, it hasn't become very public as far as a lot of that. In fact, there are a lot of people that would want that information to get out, but it just didn't make it out there. It's out there now, and yes, I do think we're at a point in time where guys like us aren't shocked, but a lot of others are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, there's no doubt about it. And we have a long way to go. Like, the weak link... And everything that we're observing in the early days of Trump's second term is that that weak link is Republicans in Congress. So one big example of it that isn't being talked about but is very significant, when the Senate was working its bill to meet this March 14th spending deadline, Rand Paul offered an amendment on the floor to cut $1.5 trillion from the federal budget, and 29 Republican senators voted against it. Now, why is that? We are in the uptake of an election result. that resoundingly endorsed Donald Trump's plan for the United States, in contrast to the frustration everyone was going through in the last four years, and the very positive reaction to the entire Doge effort in cutting government spending, and 29 Republican senators could not find it in them to cut $1.5 trillion for the budget. When you consider, in 2019, we had about $4.5 trillion of spending, one, And two, we increased spending in discretionary terms. This is not mandatory spending like Social Security and stuff. We added $2-plus trillion in 2020 to our spending, and we've never gone down below that. And we've got to cut the spending. Even if we gave inflation, even Biden's inflation, to the $4.5 trillion, and we went to 2019 levels, we'd spend $5.39 trillion. And we would balance the budget immediately and then hopefully be on track to cut spending even further if Donald Trump and Congress would just take action on that.
SPEAKER 18 :
I agree. And to your point, we have a long way to go. I do think that we're going to see some significant strides in that. It really, I think, Jim, is probably more of a question of, you know, do we have the kahunas to keep that going? Will the American public continue to get behind it even when it starts to hurt a little bit? Because to your point earlier, yeah, you know, there's going to be some federal workers that are probably out there on the – on the old job line trying to figure out how they're going to replace their income because that job no longer exists. As a private sector employer myself, what I will tell you, Jim, is while I always feel bad for somebody that loses their job, it's a part of how the economy works. It's life.
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There's no doubt about it, and government employees are never – in any significant way until now, exposed to that. And they believe that they're entitled to these jobs. And keep in mind, a good portion of these government employees here in the District of Columbia metro area who average somewhere in the six-figure income range, on average, these people have no concept of reality. Their job is something that we give to them. Six of the ten wealthiest counties in this country surround the Washington, D.C. metro area. Now, think about that for a minute. Six of the ten wealthiest counties in this country. That is not because... of economic growth and inputs in the economy that are positive, that is every one of our tax dollars rolling into Washington, D.C., going out to these people, and the only economy that exists is restaurants and other services that they consume, because they happen to be in this geographic area, all of which would go away, or most of which would go away, If they ever left and that would be bad for this particular area, but it would be really good for Americans because we need to stop having to spend so much money here. Three percent of it in Woodrow Wilson's administration going into it, three percent of gross domestic product was federal spending. Now it's well over 20 percent. And now our debt, we're in 120 percent roughly. range maybe 130 percent debt to gdp ratio and gdp by the way the gdp number in part is government spending so it's really much more than 130 when you compare it to the real life economy this is absurd we are living as slaves to our federal government and we need to be released from that agree agree all right tell folks about the conservative caucus how do they find you jim Everyone needs to go to theconservativecaucus.org. That's T-H-E, theconservativecaucus.org. Or follow me, Jim Paff, on X. Jim, as always, I appreciate you, sir.
SPEAKER 18 :
Great to talk to you, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
You betcha.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I had something in my notes for today and actually was texting somebody during the hour we had with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House where we started talking about hospitals and charges and insurance companies and so on and how all that works. And so somebody sent me an article talking about how it's illegal – for insurance companies to do discriminatory-type pricing, which we weren't really talking about during that hour. We were talking about the deals that hospitals make with insurance companies and so on, and then there can be cash discounts and things along those lines. And somebody sent me the Robinson-Patman Act, And I read through it, and I've known about this, by the way, in the past. And what the Robinson-Patman Act is, it's a federal law passed in 1936 to outlaw price discrimination. Now, that sounds good. And yes, there's been some Supreme Court cases where they have enforced this and so on. But I will tell you that price discrimination happens every single solid day. It is happening as we speak. I would say good luck on stopping it. And I didn't want to bring this part of it into the topic today because what I was going to talk about actually is opposite of that because this is a growing trend. There's an article that came out here. Oh, I don't know. There's been several of these that have come out of late, and it's very interesting any time you see these, and that is that different companies are always looking at adaptive pricing models. or discriminatory pricing. In other words, what customer A pays is different than what customer B pays versus customer C. And the way companies can do that is based upon profiles of each customer. And, again, it happens all the time. It's happening as we speak. People can say all day long that, you know, it can't happen, it's illegal, it shouldn't happen. Okay, well, then start suing everybody that does it because it happens a lot. So, for example, and by the way, I think the way some of these companies get by with this is through their quote-unquote loyalty program. So you may find yourself as, say, customer A is a gold customer with said company, and they may get X discount, meaning their price is different. You might have the next customer B, which is a silver customer based upon their spending profile habits and so on. And they will get a different price than what the gold customer got. And then let's say you have the bronze customer. That's number C or that's letter C. And, again, for obvious reasons, they're going to get charged a different price as well. Now, companies can get really discriminatory on how that is priced based upon who you are. And, of course, we have laws in this country that protect against racism and things like that. In other words, the color of your skin shouldn't dictate the price you pay, although I will tell you it happens. And it's not so much the color of the skin as it is to who are you as a customer. How well do you treat said establishment? I mean, I go down the list, folks, of the reasons why there's discriminatory pricing. And I'll just be straight up honest. There always will be. I don't care what laws you put in play. You're always going to have discriminatory pricing. And the example that this particular act uses is if you're a TV manufacturer and Target wants to buy a TV and Walmart wants to buy a TV, that same model of TV has to be sold to them at the same price. And I will tell you right now, that is not how it works. I will tell you right now that depending upon the quantity... And by the way, the way a lot of these TV manufacturers will get around the law so they don't get sued is they will give Walmart their own particular model number at X price and they will give Target their own model number at X price. And no, they are not going to be equal when it comes to pricing. And they can get around this act by doing that because they're not, quote unquote, the exact same TV, although they are. And again, where I'm going with this is you're going to see, I think with AI especially, a lot more of what I would call discriminatory pricing based upon your profile as a customer. And I'll just be straight up honest, I'm okay with that. That doesn't bother me. And I know some of you are going to think, well, John, geez, how can you say that? That means that not all customers are going to be equal? No. And I'll just tell you straight up, as somebody that's been in business my entire life, all customers aren't equal. Some suck. I'll just be straight up honest. Some are awful. Some customers, you want to charge so much, too, you don't ever want to see them again. And others, you want to give the best deal possible because they're great customers. So it happens already, folks. And by the way, it's happening in every segment of the economy, period, like it or not. And all of these companies have ways to work around this particular act in ways that I just stated. They can, for example, package up something for customer A that's a little different package than customer B that's a little bit of a different package than customer C. And at the end of the day, they're each paying a different price, although they're getting the exact same service. There's ways around this, and it's happening constantly. And again, if you think it's not, you haven't been around business very long, and you haven't been on the buying side of business very long to even understand how the suppliers do things. And then, of course, lastly, the way that the general population is charged changes as well. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, which is the most notorious thing uh business that charges different prices for everything in the airlines yes thank you i mean prime example i can go online today and buy a ticket for say to la say for 100 bucks right and you can go on next week in that same seat or the one right next to me it'll be 150 bucks it all depends on load how many fannies they got in a seat are they trying to you know fill it up correct and if if you can wait i've told i've told this to a lot of people you can wait until seven days prior they drop the prices will go up now and then seven days prior they'll drop them again Because all they want to do is put somebody on that seat. Correct. Like, you know, so that's one of the things.
SPEAKER 18 :
By the way, and again, I wasn't know we were going to go this direction. That's just the way things went. But I had a text message come in a moment ago that said, to your point, I've heard from a dental assistant who said there are dentists out there who won't take a new customer until they Zillow their house to get an idea of what they can charge. You call and they get all of your information and they do their Zillow search and then determine whether you get an appointment or not. Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now that I hadn't heard from, but I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. Not at all.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, let me give you another example, John. I know for a fact, because I've watched some videos on this of late, to where certain plastic surgeons may charge more for one procedure for one person than the other based upon your initial visit and what you're wearing and bringing in. In other words, John, are you wearing some super fancy outfit with your Rolex watch and your five-carat diamond ring? You may get one price versus the other person that walks in, which is plain clothes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. And, you know, it's the same thing. Another prime example, which everybody in the younger generation uses, is Uber.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, Uber, 10 minutes after a game at Coors Field lets out, Uber's going to charge you, say, $60 to go to the tech center, where if you wait an hour, it'll be $30.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct. That's surge pricing, they call it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and that's good business. I'm sorry. If you can make a little more money because there's a higher demand, why wouldn't you?
SPEAKER 18 :
I agree. Anyways, it's interesting because it's been a good conversation. It's been good banter back and forth with this particular person that texted in in the first place. And while I admire them and I get where they're coming from to the letter of the law, what we're talking about is illegal according to this act. The reality is, John, it happens every day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Every day in how many businesses? Every business.
SPEAKER 18 :
Every business.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know?
SPEAKER 18 :
Every business.
SPEAKER 05 :
Everything's illegal until you either get it approved by the government or you get a permit.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And here's another prime example. How about Excel being encouraged by the state of Colorado to do time of use rates?
SPEAKER 18 :
Good example.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is a perfect example. Can I jump back to what you and Dr. Kelly were talking about? Yes, go ahead, John. No, I grew up a kid of a New York City cop. New York City cops made no money, but a lot of people went on the job, fire department, sanitation, stuff like that, transit authority, because there was a benefit package to entice them. In my opinion, it all changed in the 80s. when everybody started having HMOs, remember the big HMO push? That's right. That's when it started changing because, you know, before that, my wife, her father was in sales. They didn't have insurance growing up except for catastrophic. And, you know, you went to the doctor, $25, $30, $40, whatever it was, and you paid them. And doctors, you know, but there was a doctor here kind of like Dr. Scott when Obamacare first came out. And he just said, you know what? I'm done. I don't take any insurance. I'll give you a receipt. You can file with your own insurance. He cut his office staff because he didn't need three people to do insurance documentation.
SPEAKER 18 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, so and his prices were reasonable. And he just said, I'm not going to pay. I'm not going to do it because it cost me. And Dr. Scott would probably say the same thing. Absolutely. Cost of doing all the paperwork for insurance is insane. Absolutely. I had to have another skin cancer surgery and they call and they said, well, we'll get the preauthorization from your insurance right out of the box. Pre-authorization to do the surgery from my insurance. If they said no, I would have said, okay, what are you going to charge me? Because you can't have cancer and not get it removed, you know? Right. Great point. Because the mild kind turns into the bad kind if you ignore it.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
But, you know, so it's the insurance business, and it goes together with what we're talking about now with the pricing things. You walk into the hospital, I don't have insurance. I'm going to pay you cash. I'm going to write you a check. Okay, it's $700. Like Dr. Kelly said, $3,000. Or was it Steve? $3,000 for the same procedure under insurance. I mean, that's insane. But we've gotten too far along where I don't think people will go back to having major medical.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm afraid unless there's some huge shift to encourage people to do that, I'm afraid you're correct, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the main reason why is you can't do it because of the Affordable Care Act. That got pushed through. Right. And, you know, like, I don't know if you're a business that's required to provide health insurance. I work for a company big enough where they're required.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, so you're required to provide health insurance.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that, you know, yeah, I'll pay. Can you have somebody opt out at your business? Sure. I, for years, I opted out. at my company because my wife's insurance was better and we didn't need dual and then after after after american went through their bankruptcy 10 years ago whatever it was hers was more expensive than mine so we switched to the one i have but you know i was getting when i was opting out they were giving me 20 extra paychecks so every i get paid every other week so 26 times a year they were giving me an extra 20 bucks because i wasn't taking the company insurance I mean, that's not even a drop in the bucket. Whereas my wife opts out and they don't give her anything. They just say, oh, sorry. So that's the other thing. Big companies like Dr. Kelly said should incentivize to get people to opt out or maybe take a higher cost plan. And it's the same thing. The insurance I have, I have to go once a year. They do a wellness check. It doesn't cost anything. Part of the wellness check is a nicotine test. And if you're a smoker, you pay more.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep, absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that's, I don't know, is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? I don't know. It's what it is. I think it is because I smoked one time, haven't had a cigarette in 30 years. But when I smoked, that was the hardest habit I ever had a break.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yes, definitely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Anybody who ever smoked and quit will tell you. You can quit a lot of other things. Smoking is very hard because of the nicotine addiction. John, have a great day.
SPEAKER 18 :
You too, man. Appreciate you very much. Joe, hang tight. I'm going to take a quick break. Come back, give you plenty of time. Golden Eagle Financial is next. Al Smith, let's look forward to your financial future. Get some help from Al Smith. Talk to him today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, you're next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Go ahead, sir. John, if price discrimination was illegal, every car dealership owner and general manager would be in jail.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, if you and your next-door neighbor went into a car dealership on two different days to buy the identical car, you think you're both going to save it for the same price?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, I'll get a better deal, Joe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Of course. You and I will both get a better deal.
SPEAKER 18 :
Not bragging. I just know the industry, know the business, know how that works.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I've bought enough cars, and my next-door neighbor worked for one of the largest car dealerships in the state. You see his ads on TV all the time, and I know the ins and outs. I'll give you another one. your credit rating affects the quote you get on your insurance.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
When you go to buy life insurance, two people the same age, one's 50 pounds heavier than the other.
SPEAKER 18 :
One smokes, one doesn't.
SPEAKER 07 :
One smokes, you get different quotes.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, let's go back to your industry, the HVAC and the things that you were in for a very long time. Does every company that gets a quote on a chiller or an AC unit or whatever get the exact same price?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's, you know, you look at the circumstance, how critical... And there's two different markets. One's a commercial industrial where you don't know how critical is this, where speed is more. The question in commercial industrial is rarely how much. It's usually how fast.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, and I'm also guessing, Joe, that if you're looking at some sort of a new install and there's 12 chillers going in versus one chiller, the guy buying 12 gets a better deal, does he not?
SPEAKER 07 :
Sure. Thank you. And then you get to residential. If one person is looking for a five-ton replacement unit, And they're living in a $1.2 million house. And the other person, you know, is looking to replace a 20-year-old unit. And they're in a $400,000 house, I guarantee you. the person living in the $1.2 million house is going to get a higher quote than the person living in the $400,000 house.
SPEAKER 18 :
You are correct. And while I understand there are, quote-unquote, laws against this, I mean, essentially that's what the Robinson-Pittman Act is defined as, and it even says in the article I was reading a little bit ago that really since the 90s it hasn't been enforced.
SPEAKER 07 :
And even within the Robinson-Patman Act, there's something in most businesses, and even particularly in all federal government contracts, there's something called the Most Favored Nations Clause that says the price, and this is particularly where the government gives you a no-bid contract. I'm going to say the government, federal, state, city, county, and I've done hundreds of contracts with this when I was doing commercial HVAC. All of their purchase orders say that the price you're quoting us will be no higher than the best price you quote to other customers for similar quantities, similar products of similar quality and quantity. So if they're buying one and somebody else bought six, I don't have to quote Denver County the same price twice. though I quoted Douglas County, if Douglas County bought six at once.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Makes sense.
SPEAKER 18 :
And, Joe, I mean, I was in the retail end of things for years and years and years and still buy a lot of products in my current business, and I can tell you that as the quote-unquote middleman where I was buying from suppliers, warehouses, what have you, and between the two stores I had, At that time in Colorado and, frankly, probably west of the Mississippi until you got to California, I was buying as much product as anybody in my industry was. I'm not bragging. That's just the way it was. I did that much volume. I can tell you right now my pricing that I was receiving from warehouses was 10% to 20% less than anybody else was getting at that same time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And in those cases where they can't, either because of an arrangement with the manufacturer or whatever, where they can't, discount the price, they do rebate programs. Correct. So like with their commercial industrial buyers. So like you, so let's say that, and by the way, there are some companies that say, I'm going to make up a name. Let's say Ryobi. Ryobi may say, you can't sell this tool for less. You can't advertise this tool for less than this price. I'm not saying it's right, but there are companies that will, you know, set a market price. But, and that's very true. And with, I know with Carrier, you know, they had, you know, bottom price, but at the same time, The distributors would say a quarterly rebate, if you sell between X and Y in quarter one, you'll get a 2% rebate. If you sell between T and V, that'll be a 4% rebate, et cetera, et cetera. So even though the invoice may say the same price, the two different, a big dealer and a little dealer, the big dealer is going to get a quarterly rebate check.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly how the car companies do it, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So even though the invoice price may be the same, the big buyer is going to be getting a discount. once a quarter or twice a year, that makes his purchase price less than the invoice price at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, the same thing happens with airlines buying fuel from the same supplier and on and on and on we go, depending upon their quantity or how many jets they might have at that particular location. Again, you're in the airplane end of things. You know exactly what I just said. There's always other discounts and things and availability, and no, it is not exactly the same from person to person.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll give you two more, John. I pay less for my Sirius XM radio and my trash collection than my neighbors do because every year when I get the increase, I call up and threaten to cancel. And every year they give me the special promotional rate for another year. And that's Sirius XM radio. I think I went from like $213 to $112 on Sirius XM. And my trash collection, I went from $135 a quarter to $85 because I know there's a competing trash company that you know, is in town, and they've got some of my neighbors, and my big-name trash company is trying to hang on to their customers, and all I have to do is, well, I got this offer from, you know, XYZ Company, and I was thinking about, well, let me talk, and they refer you over to one of their customer retention Customer retention experts. And the first thing they do is they'll knock 20% off your price.
SPEAKER 18 :
Correct. And I'm reading right here, the law came about to combat unfair trade practices that allowed chain stores to purchase goods at lower prices than other retailers. It was the first legislation to attempt to prevent price discrimination. It required that the seller offer the same price terms to customers at a given level of trade. And, Joe, you and I both know that while that's there, I will just tell you straight up, does anybody abide by it, Joe? No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, John, you just said the key words, given level of trade. So if store A buys 20 units a year and store B buys 2,000 units a year, that's a different level of trade.
SPEAKER 18 :
True.
SPEAKER 07 :
Those are keywords. Keywords. Same level of trade.
SPEAKER 18 :
Good point. Good point. Well, and like I said earlier, the other way around this from certain types of companies and the way they could do this is you put different quote-unquote packages together or SKU numbers together from one particular buyer to another. And, yeah, you could keep your prices the same on that SKU number, but not every person is buying the same SKU.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And by the way, the SKU number can be something as simple as this. Usually when you buy a TV, you get a remote, and normally there's two batteries in the package with the remote.
SPEAKER 18 :
Maybe it has no batteries.
SPEAKER 07 :
The other one has no batteries. Or four. Same TV. But the fact that one has two AA batteries and the other one doesn't, it's a different SKU number. Correct. It doesn't have to be the same price.
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly. I mean, Joe, there's so many ways around this that while it's probably great on face, it doesn't really hold water when it's all said and done.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. So anyway, in reality, John, it's one of those things. You know, great intentions, but in practice, you know, it really has no practical value other than, but again, if you can find where, again, the key words of similar trade.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you can find where, you know, they were, in fact, giving favored nation status to one customer. In fact, if a, let's say if a company, big company, you know, cut a purchase order, to buy something and they had a most favored nations provision in their purchase contract, which most do. And it turned out that they weren't getting that most favored nation status. They in fact could sue for damages and they could collect damages from their supplier for not honoring that most favored nation's provision. And I've seen that happen once or twice in 40 years, John, but it's rare.
SPEAKER 18 :
Joe, thank you. Great examples. I always appreciate you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're welcome, John. Take care.
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We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We have a lot of fun during commercial breaks, Charlie and I do. If only you guys could see or hear some of what we talk about. Never bad. Actually, a lot of what we talk about, literally everything we talk about on break, we could probably put on air because we talk about things that are completely off the wall that have nothing to do with even the topics in a lot of cases of what we're covering at the time. We just get into different subjects and things along those lines but we have a lot of fun and i appreciate all you're listening i've had a lot of text messages that have come in not only today but even earlier today before i came on air and i appreciate those as well don't forget the text line you can always text a question 307 200 8222, again, 307-200-8222. But we have another full hour coming your way. We have a special guest joining us here at 5 o'clock. Troy Anderson's going to join us. We're going to talk about Zelensky and the fact that he wants to reconvene with Trump, which, by the way, we saw Trump even announce during his speech Tuesday night. So we'll be right back. Hour number three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Hour three, Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us, by the way. Troy Anderson joining us now. Welcome back, Troy. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi, John. It's great to be back on your show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always appreciate it. Zelinsky, we saw what happened last Friday. We also saw or heard, I should say, heard and saw Donald Trump Tuesday night talk about the fact that he wants to come back to the table and reconvene. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, that was quite a thing to see, that Zelensky and Trump meet at the Oval Office, that big brouhaha we saw, and what appeared to be a big falling out. But I think we need to remember that Trump is the author of the art of the deal, a master negotiator. And so, I mean, I think it's very telling that as soon as he turned off the spigot of money to Ukraine, all of a sudden Zelensky wanted to make a deal. And so hopefully President Trump and Zelensky and Putin can all
SPEAKER 08 :
bringing into this this very tragic war that's that's unfolded over there troy is also author of the trump code exploring time travel nikolai tesla and the trump lineage and kate we've talked about this before too and it's been a little bit since we've been together troy given all that has happened the election the win the inauguration where we're at today a lot of the things that trump has even done in the first you know four weeks of being in office a lot of the cuts and things that have happened how does this fit into your book
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so the Trump Code largely explores these curious 19th century novels by Ingersoll Lockwood. He wrote these books called the Barron Trump Collection, and the drawing on the cover, this is the 1890s, the drawing on the cover of the book shows this little boy named Barron, and it looks strikingly like President Trump's son, Barron Trump, and he lives in Castle Trump on Fifth Avenue in New York City, where Trump Tower now stands 130 years later. And there's been stories in Newsweek and Politico about this. And, you know, it could be sort of prophetic in nature, like George Orwell's 1984. And what really caught people's attention is the final book was called The Last President. And it says this populist president is elected and the anarchists and the socialists converge on Castle Trump, shouting death to the rich man and chaos unfolds and so on. With Trump's, you know, re-election, this historic comeback re-election, it seems prophetic in nature. And so the Trump ghost sort of unpacks this whole thing, how it fits in the unfolding Bible prophecy and that kind of thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, I get it. None of us have a crystal ball, and you and I have talked before, and no, you don't either. I mean, I wish I did, Troy, and I wish you did. I mean, I would love to know. I think everybody would love to know what's going to happen tomorrow. The reality is we don't. We continue to live the life that we need to and be the best examples we possibly can, followers of Christ and so on. At the end of the day, we don't know what tomorrow holds. But with all that said, there still are, and Scripture even talks about it, Troy, there are signs and things that we can look at to know what's coming.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I spent four decades studying Bible prophecy, and I've read probably thousands of books on this topic and interviewed hundreds of highly credible people. And what Bible scholars tell me is about 2,000 of the Bible's 2,500 prophecies have come true in exacting detail, and so it stands to reason the rest of them will at some point come true. Could it be that we're in this end-time period the Bible talks about, only God knows the day and hour? But I think the important thing, the important message in all my books, and why I wrote these, is to help wake up to the world to the fact of what's really going on. We're seeing these things the Bible predicted perhaps unfolding, but now we've seen this miraculous intervention with God helping Trump get re-elected, and now he's working, he and his team, to turn things around. We're seeing pockets of revival break out across the country. I just saw a report come out saying that young people are reading the Bible again and getting baptized, and so I think there's signs of hope even amid all the crazy things we've seen happening in the world today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I've been watching the same things, by the way, and I appreciate you saying that and bringing that to light. And by the way, I do think those are some positives. In a very negative world at times, those are some of the positives. And I'm also one, Troy, and I think last time you and I talked, I'm still one that believes that If we do the right things and we change course, and I know God's all-knowing. He knows exactly what's going to happen and so on, and that's a bigger, deeper discussion probably for another day that we could have you on. But the reality is I am one that believes that, yes, we have free will, and, yes, we can still do things according to our will that also align with him and change the course of history in doing so.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I agree completely. I did this interview with Billy Graham back in 2013, and he said when God sent the prophet Jonah to Nineveh to warn in judgment, the king and the people repented. He believed the same thing could happen again this time in America. I was so inspired by that. We called for a National Day of Repentance. It actually happened. It was on the National Mall. Forty-two million people watched it. President Trump flew over Marine One. It's your proclamation for a day of prayer and return. First president to do this since Abraham Lincoln. And then right before this election— I wrote a story for Charisma. It's just our minimum moment, our chance to turn back to God. We called for 40 days of prayer, fasting, and repentance. Millions of people, probably many of them have never even heard of me, you know, were praying, fasting, and repenting before this election. We saw Trump's re-election, and then we called for 37 days to take back America, keep praying, fasting, and repenting. People kept on doing it. And then we live here in Orange County, and we go to different churches. We went to Saddleback Church, you know, Rick Horn's famous church. and they were calling for prayer, fasting, and repentance there. In fact, they had the return gathering, the Sacred Psalm Assembly here a few weeks ago at the church, and they have impact over the global church. So I think the Holy Spirit is doing something amazing, and I just encourage people to join in what God is doing to help turn things around here.
SPEAKER 08 :
I appreciate you saying all of that, and yes, by all means, because I do keep talking about this on a daily basis, Troy, and I believe this wholeheartedly. I've been talking about this for the past decade plus. This literally is a battle between good versus evil, and I don't care. Anybody wants to sum it up, the Marxist movement is evil, and we have to fight against it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think maybe that's why we had this administration. God allowed President Biden to be in there so we could see how evil and corrupt everything is. I mean, think about what's coming out now. Hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud, waste, abuse, trillions of dollars missing. I mean, probably most likely our 30-plus trillion national debt probably equals everything that's been robbed from us by everybody that could line their pockets over the last few decades. And so... It's a gigantic mountain to overcome, but thank God President Trump got back in there and they're now working to try to right this ship.
SPEAKER 08 :
When you've talked to all these different individuals and you've looked at things that we've already gone through and to a point, Troy, again, you, like anybody else, have to kind of be looking at the future and there are signs out there and so on. I mean, is there anything that you can look at today and say, you know, I can see this on the horizon or are you like me where you just go one day at a time?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, I just talked to one of my co-authors today, Pastor Paul Bagley. He's got a big YouTube show, like 200 or 300 million views or something like that. We wrote a book called Revelation 9-11 that came out about a year ago. And he has an interesting guy on the show from time to time called a codename Mike from around the world. And so apparently he just said on the show the other day that the government and the elite around the world are aware of something very significant that might occur in 2027, maybe involving the astronomical phenomena. And apparently the the elite are building bunkers around the world. So I don't know. It's not confirmed. It's just something said on the show. But that's just something I just talked to Pastor Bailey about today that's rather interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very interesting. All right. How do folks buy the book?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so the Trump Code is available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. It's been a number one bestseller multiple times. Or you can go to my website. It's TroyAnderson.us. We have a bunch of great newsletters people can sign up for also.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, Troy, again, that's S-O-N, by the way, for all of you that are going to type that in and go there. Troy, I appreciate it. It's always a joy having you, and I appreciate your time today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thank you so much.
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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. No other guests the rest of the hour. If you'd like to call in, feel free to do so. 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. Something that I wanted to talk about last hour. And I'll go ahead and just put it in now because I was watching this yesterday. I don't normally sit in regular boulevard traffic. I'm typically on the highway. I'm fortunate to where I pick up the highway to come down here, and I don't have to come super far down Parker Road once I'm off of the highway to actually get to the station. So I don't have to sit on quote-unquote boulevard traffic very much. But I had a meeting yesterday where I actually had to go down Havana in this case. And in the process of and my wife has told me about this and I've really never really experienced it. Maybe Charlie has and a lot of you maybe have, but I haven't. But there's an article right now on Fox 31 talking about drivers frustrated with aggressive window washers. And no, these are not the window washers that come built in on your car. These are those window washers that are most likely illegals that have found their way here that are hanging around the street corners. And by the way, it's not just window washers. They sell flowers. They have cardboard signs begging. They have everything. And I experienced that yesterday about, oh, I don't know, half a mile from the station here. And I will be quite honest with you. I was a little shocked. My wife has told me about this and not saying I didn't believe her, but I've never experienced it for myself. And as I'm sitting there and I'm looking at how this is going on, first I'm thinking these people are going to get run over. I mean, they're out in the middle of traffic and I'm not exaggerating. I'm thinking to myself, you're a knucklehead. You're liable to not make it by the end of the shift. And then the second thought I have is you're actually disrupting traffic because when the light turns green and they're still dinking around with cars and people don't want to run over them, I'm thinking to myself, now, get out of the way. Traffic's moving. And then lastly, of course, I look at this and think, personally, don't touch my car. Yeah, I'm that guy. You already know who I am as far as that goes. Don't touch my car, period, at all. Nada. You're not getting next to it. I don't want your ugly mug in my windshield. Nonetheless, you running your squeegee and your dirty clothed body and everything else up against my car. Sorry, I don't want that. Stay away. Fortunately, I was far enough back in line where I didn't have to deal with anybody because I'm not sure exactly how that would go. Because from what I understand, you can wave them off, tell them no, and they keep at it. They will spray the window. They will get the squeegee out. And it's interesting that in this article, it talks about how the service stations, the gas stations, the C-stores, there's no more gas stations, but you know what I mean, the C-stores, that are around have to replace their squeegees several times a week because these folks steal them. So they can go out on the corner and Wash your window, which, again, why are they doing this? They're looking for a tip at the end. They're hoping they're going to get a little money out of this, a buck or two or whatever it is for washing your window, which in this day and age is the other thing I'm always curious of. We live in a day and age where less and less people carry cash. Do these people not know that? I mean, literally, we live in a day and age where very, very few people actually carry cash in their pocket. So are they Venmoing these people? I mean, how are they actually a cash app? I mean, what are they actually doing to, they swipe on your credit card? I mean, what are these guys actually doing at the corner to get paid? Because I'm guessing probably half of the people, and Charlie, I might be off on that, but I'm guessing half the people have no cash. So are they working for free? Bottom line, they're becoming a nuisance. In my opinion, they're already a nuisance, not becoming one. They already are one. The cities, and this is, of course, Aurora, they need to do something about this because eventually something's going to erupt. That's my prediction. Something's going to erupt. Somebody's going to get run over. Somebody's not going to be happy. Somebody's going to open a door into one of them. I mean, something's going to happen, and it's not going to end well. And the cities are going to come back and basically take no responsibility because they don't ever want to take any responsibility, but they need to now. Oh, Charlie says, turn on your windshield wipers when they come at you. Well, see, I'm that also. You guys already know I'm weird. I talk about it all the time. I'm not turning my wipers on because then it'll leave a streak and it wipes the dust off and that can scratch the glass. And yeah, I'm not going to spray it either because now it messed up the car that is now clean. And yeah, I'm not doing that. Charlie's laughing at me. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm that guy. I rarely ever use the squirters because that messes up a clean car. If it's bad out and I need to see out, yes, I'll use the squirters. But outside of that, I'm not one of those guys who just turns them on to turn them on. No, that's going to mess up the clean car. And, yes, I rarely drive a dirty car. Let me say it that way. I think I could say it more accurately that way than how often I drive a clean car. I mean, I drive a clean car all the time, and it's rare for me to not have it clean. And no, I do not want to turn the wipers on when it's clean because now I'm messing up my clean car. That's why I also don't roll the windows down. I'm not doing that either. I know. People that ride with me think I'm crazy because of the things that I will not do. But it's just me. Anyways, drivers are frustrated. And... This whole article is talking about what I'm talking about now and people trying to figure out what are we going to do about this because the reality is, and somebody's even quoted in here saying, I feel like there's a line crossed. Yeah, there is. They're touching something that doesn't belong to them without permission. Because in a lot of cases, they're very aggressive. They just pop up, spray your windshield and start squeegeeing. And in some cases, you may have been looking down for just a split second and all of a sudden they're there. And yes, I saw that yesterday. And then, again, on top of that, you've got the homeless person with the cardboard sign that's now walking around blocking traffic. And every time I see one of those, and yes, my heart goes out to folks that are homeless, and there's a reason they're there. Unfortunately, though, when you give them anything, you're enabling them to stay there. A dollar, a sandwich, a whatever, you're not helping folks. I'm sorry to say, you are not helping those individuals at the corner. You're making it worse. And I know this for a fact. There are plenty of shelters and places around where they could easily get off the streets, get a meal, clean themselves up, start looking for a job. Yeah, looking for a job. Key words there. And find their way off the street. Now, I also believe that there are X amount of those that want to be on the street because it's easier than having a job. And yes, I've known some of those people as well. I've interviewed some of them, by the way, on this program. They've called in, believe it or not, because yes, they have a cell phone. Actually, in a lot of cases, some of those homeless people on the streets are doing better than those of you that are listening, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Think about the tax-free money. Just do the math really quick. If they stand out there for just eight hours, four hours in the morning, four hours in the afternoon, just eight hours, and let's say they can somehow collect, oh, and I don't think I'm exaggerating, let's say they can collect 50 bucks in an hour. And again, I don't think I'm too far off on that. I watch what people do at these corners and I watch the cash go out the window. Drives me crazy. But they do. So let's say they can collect 50 bucks an hour. Well, that's 200 bucks a shift. That's 400 bucks a day. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. Tax free. And let's say they just do that five days a week. Well, they made two grand that week. Add that up over 50 weeks in a year, and they're making $100,000 of cash money. Charlie says he's leaving. He's going to go get his cardboard sign. Yeah, because it's not a bad living. And I'm not exaggerating. And if you don't believe me, I've told you guys the stories of where I've been out working. This has been years ago, but it's probably worse now than it was then. I've been out working on – this particular case was a Saturday – And I was doing some parking lot maintenance and was on a parking lot all by myself. This has been, you know, 15 years ago. And I'm working away, and I'm doing my thing, and I'm looking around, and this was a situation where we had told the property owner we were going to be there doing some maintenance and so on, make sure all the cars are not there, it's empty and so on, it makes our job easier, blah, blah, blah. And that was the case, except for one really nice new Tacoma pickup, red. I can still picture it in my mind. And I thought, that's weird. Everybody else is gone. Why is this thing here? And I didn't really think much about it. And I figured, well, you know, we'll see how it goes. And I'll get all the rest of the stuff done that I need to do. And we'll just kind of watch it. And if it gets to the point where I need to call somebody to have it towed or moved, I'll do that. But for now, I'll just work around it. Well, I'm working away. And I started pretty early in the morning. And I'm working away. And lo and behold, about noon-ish or so, noon or one, I see somebody walking across the parking lot. And I had seen this individual prior as I was pulling in because they were out on the corner of a fairly busy area. And this particular property was just off of the corner of this busy intersection in Boulder is Boulder, by the way, not not some other town, but Boulder. And I recognized that person because they were holding the cardboard sign out at the corner. So I noticed someone there walking across the parking lot. I'm thinking, okay, well, I guess they're done. Maybe they're going to go take a break or take a rest or whatever. And I really wasn't paying a lot of attention until I saw the cardboard sign get tossed into the back of the nice new red Toyota pickup. And I watch them get the keys out of their pocket, and I watch them open it. Because I'm thinking, well, maybe they're vandalizing it. Maybe they're stealing it. Oh, no. I watched them get their keys out of the pocket, hop in, turn the ignition, start it up, and drive off. And all the while thinking, oh, my word, the rest of those people that gave this guy money are suckers. He's laughing all the way to the bank. And that was a valuable lesson for me that day because I learned that the majority of those people standing at corners are there to collect cash. They'd rather do that than work. It's free money. And by the way, these are people that probably because they have no record of working are getting Section 8 housing and all sorts of other help along the way, food stamps and so on. You get where I'm going with this. All the while making up to $100,000 a year or more cash. While you guys that are the suckers giving it to them, not you, my listeners, but people out there are giving them money and they're laughing all the way to the bank. And I'm not exaggerating in the least. So that's my story along those lines. And yes, these corners are getting worse and worse around town. Some of you may very well have noticed that. And, you know, I don't know. My advice, I guess, is Charlie says turn your windshield wipers on if they start to approach you. I'm not sure what I would do. I fortunately haven't been in that situation yet. Hope I never am. I'm one of those that's liable to say something, and whether they'll understand English or not, I don't know, but I don't want my car touched. I guess I need to learn that in a foreign language, I guess Spanish. I need to learn, don't touch car. What is that, Charlie? You have to look that up for me. Don't touch-o-me-car-o? 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Okay, Charlie, tell me one more time what I should tell them. No gracias. No gracias. And I think that would work, so thank you for that, Charlie. I will try to remember that. There also has been stories Charlie was telling me a moment ago about some people that have some really nice Cars whereby they say something along those lines and they get upset and kick the car or something along those. I just look at this whole thing as nothing but one big traffic hazard that needs to be disbanded. And why? I mean, I get it. Police have a lot of things going on. I'm fully aware of that. I get it. On the same token, you would think they would want to prioritize some of these things so that you have less issues on down the road at any rate. Yeah, I was very glad yesterday. I was far enough back that I didn't have anything wrong. you know, I didn't have anything to do with them and I was far enough away. Somebody texted in, if I were John Rush, I sure wouldn't drive anything good to the station because we're still in Aurora. Even the tech center isn't great these days. And I mean, I drive my truck, so I feel fairly okay in driving that. And I'm very careful with, you know, where I park and Watch what I do and all those sorts of things. But, no, you are correct in that, by the way. When you come down this area, it is a little dicey at times, especially, you know, depending upon where you're actually at and where you're parking and so on. And the other thing that's happening in most parking lots today, it's not even, you know, the environment that you're in. It's the parking lots themselves. They've got the stinking. you know, parking spaces down so far that, yeah, any of us that drive a pickup truck, it's getting harder and harder to find a place to park because they think everybody drives a compact car. They would like you all to drive a compact car. And no, I do not drive a compact car. Occasionally when I've got a press car, you know, maybe something smaller and so on, and that makes things a little bit easier. But no, normally when I'm driving, I'll drive my And, you know, I drive other things occasionally as well. But, yeah, no, I get that. And that is something that, believe me, I'm very careful as to what I drag down this way because of some of the, you know, quote, unquote, riffraff that's floating around. So, yes, I definitely do watch that. Dennis, you're next. Go ahead.
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Hey, John. Hey. A thought occurred to me. Doesn't ICE vehicles need their windows washed?
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Yeah, that would help, wouldn't it?
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It certainly would. And they're not hard to find.
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True. Hey, but really quick, by the way, did you see, you made me think about something. I was watching or reading some stories last night, and one of the things that we're now struggling with at the border is the cartels now have cloned border vehicles, and they're trying to drive through and look like they're actually a border vehicle when they are not.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, I read that last night. I actually saw a picture of one, and it is a spitting image, Dennis. You wouldn't hardly know the difference.
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Well, and you know, I used to have a career, and we pulled up to DIA one day, and they wanted to go through the fire truck. And I asked them why, and they said because people have been pulling up to the access gates to Oh, yeah. Okay.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yep, that makes sense.
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That does not shock me at all. Well, point being, Dennis, they're doing it at the border now.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And I don't know if they, at least in this article, didn't get into the details of how other border agents know these are counterfeit vehicles that I didn't get into, but I did see a picture of one of them, and I'm going to tell you what, they have got the graphics down. It's a twin. Yes.
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I don't think that would be hard to do, but you could tell probably from the interior.
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I would think so. And probably the person driving. Although, Dennis, they're probably pretty good at even putting a person in uniform and masking that. Keep in mind, the cartels aren't dumb.
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Well, and I watch a lot of... Oh, true-to-life shows. And it's amazing how many ICE and border agents are Hispanic.
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A lot. A lot. And by the way, Dennis, I think in some part because they find people that can speak the language, that can actually relate to those individuals and so on, I think at the end of the day there's actually an advantage there. But, yeah, no, you're spot on. I watch the same thing. You're 100% correct.
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Yeah, so, you know, just looking at a phony Border Patrol vehicle with a Hispanic driver.
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Doesn't mean anything.
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You wouldn't be able to tell.
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No, you would not. You're 100% correct. Absolutely.
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Give me a call. I'd be happy to help. Thanks, John. All right, Dennis, have a good day, and I appreciate you calling in. And, yeah, it's not a bad idea. Just, you know, roll an ICE vehicle through there, and they most likely won't be around much longer. No, the story I just told about the border vehicles, they literally, a cartel is cloning those vehicles to where you literally – You can't tell, and I'm not exaggerating. Go look that story up, and Dennis just reminded me of that. All right, another article. And this one I was going to talk about yesterday. I just didn't get a chance to get to it, so I put it in today's notes. Why are so many Denver restaurants going belly up or moving out of the city? Now, before I even get into the article, I can tell you why. Part of what I just got done talking about. is part of that reason why. Parking already stinks. Tons of homeless running around. People don't want to go downtown unless they absolutely have to, unless they're forced to, to be honest with you. If they've got the option to go somewhere else, and frankly they do, they will. So in turn, if you're a restaurant that's in that area that is being affected by all the things that I just said, well, of course you're not going to make it. I mean, yeah, this is an article, and I get that people are talking about this, but I'm a little bit confused as to why anybody would be shocked that this is happening after the things that I've talked about on this program for the past couple of years or more. Really, since COVID. According to the Denver Department of Excise and Licenses, EXL, records show a drop of about 24% in overall food licenses associated with restaurants since 2023. So a 24% drop in two years. To better understand the trends, Denver 7 is taking a 360-degree look at the struggling industry and what owners are doing to stay afloat. And again, by the way, I'm not even going to read this entire article off of Denver 7 because I can already tell you as a businessman myself what the answers are. And I can also tell you that as a consumer because prior to COVID – My wife and I, we would go downtown and we would do some things even through COVID. We would do some things along those lines. You would actually try to find some restaurants that were even having some outdoor seating that you could help, you know, help out because we wanted to make sure those restaurants stayed alive and so on and so forth. And I will tell you that we would do some of those things. At one point in time, it was a destined or you are a destination to go to 16th Street Mall. Not anymore. Not anymore. I will tell you that there is one restaurant that my wife and I will sometimes frequent that are on the outskirts of downtown. And we do that just because we like this particular restaurant. But if it wasn't for that particular restaurant, we wouldn't even go there. So for us, this is pretty much a no-brainer. We don't go. There's not a single restaurant outside of the one I just mentioned that we will take any time to go visit. And it's all because of what I explained to you earlier in regards to the homelessness, the homeliness of the city itself and how it looks, by the way, the filth that's around. I mean, I just go down the list. Anytime you have that much homelessness, it gets filthy. And It's worse. I mean, I can remember it being bad when I was a kid. You know, we would go down to the convention. At that time, it was the Corrigan Hall, the convention center we had. And there was car shows and different things you would go to and so on. And my dad would take my brother and I and my sister, and we'd go. And, you know, there was at that time, even there were still some homeless people and bums. My dad would call them here and there. You can't call them bums anymore. I guess that's not the right word, is it, Charlie? You can't call them bums. They're homeless. Oh, unhoused. Yeah, thank you. I'm not even using the right term when I say homeless. It's unhoused. I will tell you, though, it is by far worse today than it was even when I was a kid. I get it. The city is much larger than it was. I mean, our population has doubled since I was a kid, but there really isn't anything. And again, I'm not going to read the rest of this article because it doesn't matter. I can already tell you why these restaurants are leaving. If I were an owner, I would be leaving. Even if my... Customer base was still there and was still rolling in. I don't know that I could handle all of the other nonsense that goes along with doing business in the downtown area. And by the way, the cost of doing business in the downtown area continues to skyrocket as well. I'm sure that's another factor in all of this. But at the end of the day, yeah, I am not shocked that there is a 24% decrease in that area. In fact, I would tell you that it's going to get worse before it gets better because we have a mayor that's totally clueless. You can see that on Capitol Hill. This guy is absolutely clueless, doesn't have any idea what he's doing. So we'll come back. Don't go anywhere. Do you want to do group insurance analysts next, Charlie? Let's do that. So e-gia.com.
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We are back. Walt, you are up next. Go ahead, Walt. How are you, John? I'm good, sir.
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Good. So, hey, have you driven East Colfax lately from Broadway South or Broadway East?
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It's been a little while, but I'm guessing, is it all tore up under construction yet? Yeah.
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It's all bike lanes now.
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Well, they're changing that around, too. You know, the huge project is they're going to put bus lanes down the middle.
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Yep, exactly. And then with the bike lanes as well.
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Yep.
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I was down there the other day trying to have lunch. I had to literally walk two and a half blocks, almost two blocks, just to get to the establishment trying to get something to eat. And it's just a holy mess down there. And I think it's just... You know, to me, and I even talked to one of the individuals that was running the establishment. She said, yeah, I'm losing business. On the average of 60% to 65% of my businesses, there's nowhere to park. Wow.
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That's big. They're not going to make it if that's the case. No, she's struggling. Yeah, they won't make it.
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She's struggling big time. And I felt so bad for her. And I wish there was something we could do, but... Unfortunately, we can't because it's all, you know, it's all done through, you know.
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That was a big project. I talked about that. Oh, gosh. Six months or more ago, I was talking about that before things got geared up and how ridiculous that entire plan was. And the fact that I predict that when it's all said and done, Walt, they will realize that's just a big boondoggle. And in a decade, it'll be back the other way. It's a waste of taxpayer money. It's a total waste of taxpayer dollars, Walt. Total. And harming those businesses along the way at the same time. Well, it is. And that's what they want. Yeah, that is what they want. Charlie was just telling me through the break that Denver, you know, they're going to now, once 16th Street Mall is redone because they're going through and redoing all of it, they're then going to spend a million bucks or more to have live bands and people there so that they can try to lure some people back. And, Walt, until they clean up some of the things I just mentioned earlier, it ain't going to matter. I agree. No one's coming back. I totally agree.
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Nope, unfortunately. But, you know, unless something happens in the next five years, I'm speculating. Because right now the capital is dominated by it. House and Senate Democrats. There's no balance there.
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No, there's not. You're right. Zero. No balance. You're right. Thanks, John. Walt, I appreciate it very much. He's just solidifying what I was saying. I got a text message a moment ago and I can I will second this message. I'm going to paraphrase. But basically, this message says, because Denver is such a rat hole. That there is no reason to go down there for anything, shopping, 16th Street Mall, whatever. Maybe you want to go to a particular store there, etc. It is such a rat hole that this particular texter said it is easier to fly to a place like Phoenix and actually shop and do what you want to do there and fly home. than it is to actually dink around with going to downtown Denver. And yeah, I'm living proof of that. I will do the same thing. Now, I will combine that with seeing relatives because we've got relatives there and so on. So we'll combine that. But yeah, my wife and I will do the exact same thing. We do not shop in downtown Denver at all. In fact, we don't shop. in even some of the suburb areas much because some of those aren't much different, to be honest with you. There are some better places than others, but first of all, I'm not a brick-and-mortar guy anyways. I will typically, if there's something I want, Charlie knows this, I'm more of the online, Amazon, whatever, and I will pretty much find what I need and go that route because, frankly, I can do that faster, cheaper, and a better tax rate, sales tax rate, because of where I live and having it delivered to the house, I could actually save money doing that than I can running around trying to find what you need at brick-and-mortar stores. The only exception to that might be some of the home improvement like Lowe's or Home Depot or something that you need right away. But outside of that, yeah, I do not shop personally. I do not shop much at brick-and-mortar stores. Speaking of, this is news that my son Richard sent me just a moment ago. Walgreens, which you all know, I think this is a good thing, by the way. They just put enough money together, $10 billion, they're taking it private. It will no longer be a public company, which, by the way, will help Walgreens. Because part of their problem of late, I think, is total mismanagement, wokeness, and a bunch of nonsense from the folks that have been running it as a public company. And I know a little bit about even some of the maintenance things they do outside of what you'll even read in the news and so on. And I will tell you that it has been a screwed-up mess for a while. And I hope taking it private will cure a lot of that and revive them, because the last thing you want to do is see thousands of Walgreens close up across the country. So hopefully this will be a fix for them. All right. Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, if you've got a yearning to help young kids learn how to read, which I believe all of us do, our literacy rate in the United States of America is at an all-time low, you can help that by buying either your own family, neighbors, kids that you might know at work, whatever the case might be, Jimmy and Andrew. It is the American Stonehenge by Mike Goldstein. We interview Mike all the time. He's got a real burden to help kids learn how to read. Just go to jimmyandandrew.com.
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In this episode of 'Rush to Reason,' host John Rush engages with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House to delve into the pressing challenges faced by RFK Jr. upon his appointment to a significant cabinet position. Diving into the intricacies of the agencies under his purview, such as the NIH, FDA, and CDC, the discussion explores the barriers that hinder efficient reform and strategic planning, including media scrutiny and crisis management.
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And it's Thursday. Welcome Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory joining me today as well as Steve House. Dr. Kelly, we'll start with you. Ladies first. How are you?
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I'm doing great. Glad to be back together. So much has happened since we were last on as a group. Certainly lots happening in Washington and lots of appointments to talk about, lots of things happening at HHS, and lots of things happening around the country.
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Awesome. We will get into all of that as well. And, yes, it's been too long. Steve, welcome. You as well. Appreciate you joining us. Always good to be here, guys. It has been a while. It has. And for those of you listening, maybe for the first time, you can find a full page of Dr. Kelly that we dedicate to her on the website. Go to RushToReason.com. You can get all of her background, the things that we have discussed for literally the past, oh, almost five years now. It's been a long time and we've covered a lot of ground and I'm very thankful myself to be here and I know our listeners are as well to listen to the great information you both bring on a regular basis. Dr. Kelly, let's start with you and talk to us again. You mentioned a moment ago HHS, RFK Jr. He was confirmed and he has got a lot on his plate.
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Boy, does he. To be clear, that cabinet position, all of them, oversees a tremendous number of agencies. He oversees the NIH, CMS, FDA, CDC. These all answer in a bubble up under HHS. And there's a lot going on. He also has people, forces trying very, very hard to take him down to make sure that he fails. And I believe that that is largely why he is being sidelined, constantly being distracted by the next crisis right now with measles outbreaks or bird flu or whatever it is. So he hasn't really been able to get to the vast amount of work, the vast number of projects that I know he wants to handle because he's been in full-time crisis mode since he got in there.
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Steve, if you were RFK Jr., and I'll get Dr. Kelly's opinion on this as well, how would you – given what Dr. Kelly just said a moment ago, and she's 100% correct, how would you, if you were him, literally decipher and strategize and start, if you would, your checklist of things you need to go through and do your best to minimize the things that she just said?
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Well, first of all, he needs a full staff, and I don't think he's there yet, so it would help to have a full staff. Based on just the conversations I've had this week, my thought process is, Bobby has two areas of focus, even though he has like 18 agencies or something that Kelly was talking about. The two areas of focus are the FDA, CDC, NIH kind of areas where you're talking about drug safety, new drugs in the market, making sure you do no harm, even as the head of HHS on drugs. you know, how we roll out drugs. And obviously that's a big issue with what happened with COVID and some of the other stuff that's, you know, come along and going to come along in the near future. And the other thing is getting through the, how do we make people healthy by changing the substance of what they eat, the quality of the food and the things like that. I don't think Bobby Kennedy should spend any time working on hospitals. or doctors. I mean, he's got to have to leave that to Mehmet Oz and to some other people while he focuses on those areas. That's my opinion, and since you asked, that's what I wanted to tell you.
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All right. By the way, I don't know that I can disagree with that. Dr. Kelly, your thoughts?
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no i agree with steve 100 on where um robert kennedy jr should set his focus um and as you said he doesn't have a full staff in place i've been in contact with him in very very recently with regard to this issue and the fact that i think they are sorely lacking for someone in a communication role who can articulate to Americans what the priorities are. As I said, he keeps getting sidelined with things like measles or whatever else. The cabinet meeting that happened last Wednesday, he was asked a singular question about measles and then was lambasted in the press up one side and down the other for his answer. While it might not have been delivered quite as eloquently as Bobby Kennedy is capable, he was foundationally correct in what he said, which was, we have measles outbreaks every year. We've had four this year. We had 16 last year. And a single child has died. He failed, unfortunately, to give the obligatory condolences about a child dying and talking about how sad that is and how tragic it is, all of which is true. But he is correct in saying this is not a big deal. We have 30,000 to 50,000 people who die every year from influenza. When you add together the deaths from diabetes, heart disease, obesity, and alcohol, that comes to more than a million deaths worldwide. per year. And you don't hear people absolutely, you know, running around with their hair on fire as a result of it. So I think these are diversion tactics. I think it's an attempt to keep Bobby Kennedy from actually getting to the people's business, which are those things that Steve just enumerated, including addressing food additives and the things that are driving the disease burden in America.
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Real quick before we move on to Steve on that, Dr. Kelly, I had read something today, and I always am careful to not repeat anything until I double-check, and I figure you would be more of an expert on this than anyone I could check with. And I had read today that that one case where that one child did die from measles, that it was caught while in the hospital with other things they were in the hospital for. Am I correct?
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It's my understanding, and again, I have not reviewed the medical records. It's my understanding that the child presented with respiratory syncytial virus, RSV, and pneumonia and was actually given an MMR vaccine while in the hospital. So they gave a live attenuated vaccine to a child who was in ill health. The child then subsequently, quote, tested positive for measles, which is expected given that the child had just received a live vaccine. vaccine that has a live virus in it. So it is unclear, although the child, quote, tested positive for measles, it is very unclear what actually caused the child to die. Was it measles? Was it RSV? Was it pneumonia? Was it improper treatment? I simply don't know. And again, I am not minimizing measles. Any death, let alone the death of a child. I'm simply saying that I do believe that these things are being politicized and used to the effect of keeping Robert Kennedy and his team, insofar as it's been put in place, from actually getting on to bigger issues.
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Makes total sense, and thank you for that clarification. And, Steve, yeah, by the way, everything you said about having the right staff and getting things in gear, and this is a monumental task that he has in front of him. And I want to get your opinion on this, but I'm pretty confident that he's got the ability to get those things handled and make things happen. And I guess the— The bigger question I've got for you, and then I'll ask Dr. Kelly again, is when it comes to handling the press and getting things on track in the areas that really need to be dealt with first, do you, Steve, hire, I mean, almost like a White House press secretary to handle a lot of those things that are coming in so you can concentrate on what's needed? Or do you yourself as head of HHS have to answer all those questions?
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You absolutely have to hire a communications director like the White House would do. I mean, think about how the White House works, right? Carolyn Leavitt is pretty good at 27 years of age, but the man himself, you know, Donald Trump stepping in front of a mic always brings some additional clarity and a little bit more intensity. I mean, when Bobby needs to talk about something, he can always step in and do that. But, you know, Kelly's right. He can't get distracted by that kind of stuff. I mean, he's fighting what we were talking about earlier, 10,000 kids being tested with a COVID vaccine in a safety group. I think that's completely ridiculous. How many kids died from COVID vaccines versus one person dying from measles? It's all about numbers, but yeah, he needs communications help for sure. He looked horribly tired to me the other night. in the quasi-stated union as well.
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No liberal media bias here. This is Rush to Reason. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House with us. Steve, I'm going to throw this at you because we were texting early this morning and talking about the show today and so on. And one of the things that you have been working on of late is data, trying to figure out how to lower the cost and improve American health care. And I'm guessing that is something that is probably front and center for Robert Kennedy Jr. as well. Well, let me ask you this. Is it as monumental as I think, or are there some pretty easy things we can do to help that right off the bat?
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I mean, there's some easy things, but everything about health care is complicated, John. I mean, in thinking about the discussions this week, right, so first and foremost, I mean, as a general rule, and I'd challenge Kelly to tell me I'm wrong about this because I could be, I don't think you can find an HHS secretary in the past, I don't know, maybe a couple of decades that's made a substantial difference in how health care operates in this country. And if you're the guy that's in charge or you're the lady that's in charge, I mean, you know, I've been talking to Tommy Thompson and his team. He's a former HHS secretary. I think Tommy did some fairly significant things in the job. But it's a really complicated job, and very few people have done much. I mean, the change toward EHRs or EMRs, probably cost us more money and time than it helped us. So I don't know, John. I think it's a tough question. I certainly would ask Kelly to jump in and contradict that. Absolutely.
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Go ahead, Dr. Kelly.
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You're up.
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No, I agree with Steve. I can't remember any HHS secretary getting much accomplished. And I think this is because they all fall into the trap of trying to do too many things simultaneously and then therefore end up doing nothing. I don't think Robert Kennedy's focus is on, quote, revamping health care. I think he has a very good list. of priorities that include things like addressing the food system, specifically foods that we feed to our children that we know are associated with increased disease burdens, things like obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and those sorts of things. He certainly is looking at safety issues with regard to drugs and therapeutics, including but not limited to vaccines. I believe that he wants to make some significant changes like eliminating pharmaceutical advertising on television because that will help to return integrity to the media in terms of their reporting. And I know that he wants to disarticulate the relationship between Big Pharma and the medical journals and our medical schools. If you were able to do, you know, those four things I just rattled off would be monumental, you know, without trying to sort of revamp everything else. He has Mehmet Oz overseeing CMS, which is Medicare and Medicaid. Menedos can handle looking into the fraud and corruption that are rampant in those programs. And he's got people at the FDA and the CDC who likewise can look at fraud, corruption, and lack of transparency there. I know that Jay Bhattacharya has vowed that he would do that. So I think that if Bobby can rely on the people who are heading these different agencies and then let them do their thing, get out of the way, while he addresses a handful of other things that could be impactful, I think we'll be doing well.
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Steve, you also were talking about the waste and abuse when we were texting back and forth earlier today. And a question that I have is we know it's not only wasteful at times, not only is there fraud, it's abused greatly. In fact, unfortunately, it's typically abused by those that are the least healthy of the population. In some cases, you wrote 300-plus ER visits in a year, meaning they're darn near there every day. I mean, how would you curb that?
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You know, it's interesting, and I'll make one comment on what Kelly said. I actually think that I made this suggestion this week. I said, you know, write down the answer to this question. In four years... it will be different because and then you know list the things right there'll be no tv commercials for drugs you know whatever it is just make it simple and tell people what you really think you can accomplish in four years in terms of your question you know looking at data we go back to covid right and one of the original conversations we had john was we have health information exchanges in the state of colorado and you know made a suggestion to the governor at that time um that was a period i was running for congress and said look you got hies go into the hies and look at people's health status and the ones who are the greatest at risk for covid isolate those folks. Give them a heads up that says, hey, you know what, you're 80 years old, you got COPD, you got, you know, diabetes to go with it. Those chronic diseases are not going to be, you know, in your favor clearly if you get COVID. We never use the data. You know, on one hand, you have to be able to be aware, right? I mean, I'm sure if, you know, Kelly was in an ER and doing trauma work and she saw the same person show up five days in a row, six days in a row, at some point she's going to go, Why is that guy here every day? And, you know, what is it with this guy? And it turns out that particular guy, he was one of a bunch. When you get the $3 billion of the Medicaid cost in a single county, you know, people were taking the ambulance into the hospital because they didn't have any other way to get there. You know, they didn't want to walk in the cold. They didn't want to take the ambulance. I can tell you an ambulance, and Kelly can tell you how much an air ambulance is, those costs are ridiculously high. Someone has to pay attention. They have to have the data. They have to pay attention to it. And they have to not run afoul of the law in doing what's necessary to incentivize those folks to get healthy a different way than showing up at the ED every day.
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Dr. Kelly, and again, I don't think that we want to get to a system whereby there are grades of individuals and they get care based upon said grade. On the same token, I've always wondered, just as a side note to what Steve said a moment ago, why is an ambulance ride – in the first place and is that an area where we don't want different grades of care but when it comes to ambulance rides where you've got some that are paying full price and others that are getting a freebie is that an area where we could have tiered service
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Well, that's the issue. An ambulance ride is so expensive because one out of 10 people actually pay for it. Nine people get it for free, and one person pays. So that one guy's paying for it. Correct. And that's what happens in the ER because we give away so much free care, and that's certainly to people who are not in this country legally, but also people who don't pay taxes and don't have insurance and don't pay anything. So it's, you know, one out of 10 people is actually paying for the care. I think that we also something that clearly needs to happen is we need to revamp our concept of, quote, insurance when it comes to health care insurance. Health care insurance is the only form of, quote, insurance that handles everything from soup to nuts. You can't get it. You know, you can't drive a car in this country without liability insurance. But when you go to get gas, you don't expect your car insurance to pay for the gas in the car or getting your tires rotated. You can't get a mortgage without having homeowners insurance. But when you go to mow the lawn or clean the gutters or paint the house, you don't expect State Farm, your homeowners, to pay for those things. You pay cash. And likewise, it should be that way with health care. Instead, people say, I have insurance, and they expect everything from their annual physical to their flu shot to their child's antibiotics for an ear infection to be covered by that insurance. And the cost of insurance, if you handle it that way, is going to be astronomical, which is exactly where we find ourselves.
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Yep. Steve, you do a lot of work in this particular area, and you and I, with Dr. Kelly and without over the years, have talked about this particular subject. And there are fixes for this. I guess the question is, do we as a country, and I think there's people like Robert Kennedy Jr. that are willing to drive some of these things forward, but do we as a country have the fortitude, I guess you would say, to make some of the changes necessary, like Dr. Kelly just said a moment ago? Because she's 100% correct.
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You know, it's really a generational segmentation thing I think you have to do where you say, look, I've got to, first of all, do some education. I mean, guys who show up at the ED every day or for 300 days out of 365, it could be abuse, it could be fraud, it could be drug-seeking, it could be a lot of things, but it also could be a complete lack of education on how they should take care of themselves or solve their own problems. uh... so it's a mix of that but i think the way that kennedy has to approach it on the health side is you know you have to start teaching people your personal get the stuff out of the system that's bad for us the dives the high fructose corn syrup you know using beef tallow to to do fries with instead of oils right is a little thing but it's still an important thing so so teach the youngest generation how to eat better. You know, in the meantime, of course, I don't know if you realize this, but there's something called toddler milk, which I ran into this week, right? So after you have formula or breast milk for a year, then you can jump into this toddler milk, which is horrible. It's sugar and salt. It tastes phenomenal. And kids drink it for three years and they put on weight. I mean, it just, all those things need to be dealt with. You need to do it by generation. Unfortunately, John, you and I are probably at an age level where our generation is not going to get much help out of Make America Healthy. We're probably going to get what we put into it and what we've always put into it, but two generations younger than us, and kids will. So start there, work your way there, change the system over time, but it's going to be a couple of generations before we get there.
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Dr. Kelly, is there a way, as you talked earlier about, The three of us have talked about this literally in the past a gazillion times because the ads that are run by the big pharma, by big drugs, really, and it gives them all sorts of power over all sorts of things, which really is a huge thing. And I really feel that Robert Kennedy will do whatever he can to try to get that part of it solved. But the question I've got is could you sell – to even the American public and to Congress, if you would, that, hey, we want to pass a law that eliminates drug ads. In fact, what we want to do, though, is maybe not a one-for-one, but maybe it's a 50% ratio to where instead of running drug ads, we're going to run PSAs, and we're going to require networks to actually run said PSAs if they want to have their FCC licensing and so on, and we're going to run some PSAs on how to make America healthy again.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it's a great idea. I think that we've got to start educating Americans about the basics. We've been led to believe, and this is largely because of the pharmaceutical companies, we've been led to believe that we can either vaccinate or medicate our way to good health. Mm-hmm. There's a drug, a pill, an injection, a treatment for everything rather than the basics. You're led to believe that you need a vaccine for every single infectious disease. Ozempic is better than diet and exercise for obesity. There's a medication for everything. Instead, we should be educating Americans about the basics, adequate nutrition, regular exercise, sleep, stress mitigation, exposure to sunlight. All the things that our parents and grandparents used to do naturally. Now we have an entire society that is sedentary, sits on the sofa with a, you know, an iPad or an iPhone, doesn't walk anywhere. And it really, you know, it has trickled down, but it's being fed largely by the pharmaceutical industry that benefits from this ill health. They benefit. The hospitals benefit. Insurance companies benefit. Everybody benefits but the people.
SPEAKER 14 :
This text message just came in, and Steve, I'm going to throw this at you because I think I know the answer, although I want to be sure of it. And this texter says, I think more people would pay cash if they were charged for and pay for what would be the same that the insurance company pays for the price differences astronomical. I was under the impression, Steve, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought insurance companies in most cases pay more than what I would get as a cash deal, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you're not wrong. It is that way exactly because of the rebate networking structure. I mean, oftentimes the cash pay patient will get a cheaper price. I mean, it's still not cheap in most cases, but it is cheaper.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, and I had thought that because typically those are all negotiated on the front side. So in other words, if you see a situation where the insurance company is actually paying less, well, that's probably an isolated case where an insurance company made some sort of a deal on that. But typically speaking, insurance pays more than cash.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, I just had this happen. I had a CT scan last year, and at the time I had it, I asked the question, what's my cash price? Because they asked me for insurance. I said, what's my cash price? They gave me a number of like $653 for a CT scan with contrast. And then I gave them my insurance. When the bill came, it was $3,000-something. Now, there's a bunch of write-offs that goes into that, but it still did not equal $600-and-some by the time it was paid.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dr. Kelly, being a doctor, you've got great familiarity with this. Again, am I thinking correctly in that answer I gave just a few minutes ago?
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And I'll tell you, I personally, because I have a high deductible plan, which is intended for, you know, catastrophic events, I commonly pay cash. I commonly say, I haven't met my deductible, which I think is $10,000. If I need to get an x-ray or a CAT scan or an MRI, I ask for the cash price. As Steve said, it will generally be a few hundred dollars, where the insurance, if they bill it through insurance, it'll be $3,000. And since I haven't met my deductible, I would have to pay $3,000. I say, forget it. Don't put it through. I'll pay the $300 and pay it in cash. It is insanity. This is absolutely a racket. And, you know, more people understood it. I think we could really push back on the insurance companies. But they know that most people don't understand how it works. They don't understand that they have the ability to pay the cash price if they so choose. And if more people did that, we really could get prices back in line.
SPEAKER 14 :
Steve, when it comes to this particular topic, which is all sorts of things that factor into cost, and somebody texted a moment ago and said Obamacare really pushed up the cost of all of this, and I will not disagree with that at all. It did. I guess the question, because for some it might be so long ago that they've even forgotten what it was like before Obamacare, why did Obamacare push it up so much?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it was this theory that You know, he was trying to be benevolent, a benevolent dictator, as it turns out. But essentially what he was saying is, look, if you happen to have, you know, type 1 diabetes, if you have other genetic issues, if you grew up in an environment that was a food desert and you have type 2 diabetes and other chronic diseases, that your insurance costs... should not be materially higher than someone who is healthy, fit, absent of genetic problems. So it used to be we would underwrite policies based on actuarial data that said, you know, Kelly Victory's probably going to live longer than John and Steve because she's fitter and does all this other stuff, so give her a lower price. They took that away. They only made it smoking status and age, essentially. So that meant that everyone's price went up. And then... You know, they had to cover everything. So you and I are personally both insured for breast cancer. Kelly is insured for prostate cancer. It just became this racket. Now, why the heck the insurance company would think it's okay, even though they know she's a female and we're men, to give us that kind of coverage? That stuff was nonsensical. It was unethical and immoral, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 14 :
Can't disagree with any of that. Dr. Kelly, do you want to add any of that before we go to break?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, 100% correct. And it was this idea of covering that everybody was obligated to have coverage for everything. So as Steve said, I have pediatric dental insurance, despite the fact that I have no children and I'm well beyond childbearing age. But I still if you know, every insurance policy has to cover these things. We should go back to what we had when I was growing up, which was we called major medical or catastrophic, meaning that's right. You know, you'll pay for everything out of pocket. My parents paid for my, you know, well, child visits. My parents paid if we needed an X-ray in the ER or you needed a shot of penicillin for strep throat. And then if, God forbid, you had a car accident or a major event, you had catastrophic coverage to cover that unexpected thing. That's what insurance is intended to do, cover the unexpected, not cover routine things.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House with us. Okay, a couple of text messages that came in. Let me start, Steve, with you. There's a law that has been challenged by medical providers since 1970, and it is the... Robinson-Patman Act. It's a U.S. federal law that prohibits price discrimination and other anti-competitive practices. It was passed in 1936 to protect small businesses from being undercut by larger competitors. So health care providers have challenged this. The question is, why are there no state attorneys or state or sorry, attorney generals or the Department of Justice challenging this particular pricing by health care providers? Is it a money issue? And this question is just coming off the text line, Steve.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's an interesting question. I would probably want to ask them a question and say, you know, what are you referring to? Because, frankly, hospitals and doctors can charge whatever they want. I mean, if you have an agreement with a health insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield, for example, there's going to be an allowable amount. that you have to pay, but a hospital can charge whatever it wants for the CT scan that they do for me. And therefore, it's all about cost shifting, right? So if I absolutely pay and someone else can't pay, they want to get enough from me to help cover that. But there is no price transparency to come out. The president actually... We did another executive order to try to emphasize price transparency. But price controls have never really existed in health care because the pharmaceutical – not the pharmaceutical, the insurance companies and the providers can charge what they want. Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Our next question came in for you, Dr. Kelly. Say they like your idea about going back to major medical. I do as well. And, by the way, there are plans today where you kind of can get that if you would – but how do we get the employers out of the mix? And I think I've actually, as an employer, I think I have an answer to that, but I want to hear what you have to say, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, employers getting in the mix happened as a result of wage freezes happening after World War II when employers were trying to get some additional money in the pockets of their employees and weren't allowed to raise wages, so they gave them the benefit of having health insurance. So it was out of really the goodness of the hearts of employers, but it's now gotten out of control because it fundamentally ties people to their job. People end up getting stuck, not being able to move, to change jobs, to relocate because for fear of giving up their health insurance. So for many people, it ends up being an anchor. It's the, you know, the concept that albatross around your neck. So I think really what people should be allowed to do is say to their employer that I don't want to actually have that as a benefit and take some cash amount instead. Say it might not be equal. Your benefits may come to be, say, $20,000 from your employer, and you should be able, I think, to say to your employer, I don't want the $20,000 for the benefits. I would prefer to take $7,000 or $8,000 of increased salary instead and buy my own. And that's something that you can certainly ask your employer, but I think it should become a mainstream solution.
SPEAKER 14 :
Steve, I want to get your opinion on this because I've got one other thing I want to dovetail into what Dr. Kelly said because as an employer, and maybe I'm wrong in my thought process here, but I thought that one of the reasons why employers, to Dr. Kelly's point, started offering health care not only was it to retain employees and to be able to offer them more and there was wage issues and so on, but if I'm not mistaken, Steve, a lot of that also came from the fact that for private companies, enterprises to compete with government, they had to start offering some of those things. Because at one point in time, somebody would go to work for government for a little less pay, but they had all these extra benefits, including health coverage and so on. And so the private sector came along and started doing the same thing. So my answer as to how do you get employers out of this, we'll get government out of it first.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit of both because Kelly was right that the original health insurance, I believe, came when a guy named Kaiser was trying to help people who were building ships. and and california and they couldn't get the workers uh... they they they wanted to give them something more to keep them versus their competition so it it was really it was you know like kelly fed trying to give them something other than wages could they couldn't give them wages they do more months strike uh... but then did then what happened to come benefits packages became more competitive So when you go to work for somebody, you interview them, you'll oftentimes see people say, well, we have the greatest benefit package, and some of them have really special benefit packages. And they do it that way as well. So, I mean, there's still rules on HSAs. I mean, if you want to do this right, major medical or catastrophic with a really, really unlimited HSA, for you to use to take care of your own health benefits. We'd all be better off to go that way. That's why Kelly and I worked on some of the Singapore model and other things when I was running for Congress and she was on the health care team in 2020. I mean, there's all kinds of better ways to do this. Whether the company's involved or not, I mean, this lawsuit I teed up to you guys from Johnson & Johnson and Wells Fargo and the employees suing the companies because drug pricing coming through the PBMs the company has is too high. It's marked up too much. I mean, all of those things are distorting the market. So anytime you have a three-party system, you're distorting the market. When you negotiate with somebody who needs a brand-new carburetor in their car, you negotiate face-to-face with the person buying. It's not that way in healthcare, and that distortion makes this whole thing... open to fraud, waste, and abuse.
SPEAKER 14 :
What it really is doing, Steve, and Dr. Kelly, you can comment on this as well, is you've taken the free market out of health care because there's so much insurance slash government regulation that, yeah, you can be a concierge doctor like Dr. Faulkner, who's one of our sponsors here. Problem is there's not near enough of those nor enough people even realizing those exist. And on top of that, because of Obamacare, still have to have some sort of other policy that they have in place just because they're forced to do so. Am I correct, Steve?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and I clearly think that you're right about concierge docs. I mean, the reality of it is as time goes on and the baby boomers get older and, you know, the need for health care in a system that's going to have lower and lower access because of what's happening, you know, those people will become like gold. You know, Kelly and her family probably can charge, you know, more than a couple of chickens for a visit because people won't be able to get into a doctor. And so it's going to become a commodity that goes up in value and price as people get older. So it's distorted, John. You're right. There's no free market. There's plenty of it. There's not enough information in the market, and there's too many players in a market when you have more than two people face-to-face making something happen.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dr. Kelly, this goes back to what we were talking about earlier when it comes to education, and I get it. You could run a lot of TV ads and still not really educate everybody properly, but you've got to start someplace when it comes to educating the public on, A, how some of the things that we're talking about work, B, how to stay healthier, because frankly, the system that we implemented, gosh, Dr. Kelly, when... I was a kid. I think the food pyramid and all of that started and we started to go about things backwards and it's gotten worse and worse and worse. And you talk all the time on this program here as to how unhealthy America actually is. And we are. The reality is we are not as healthy as we should be. And we've got all the technology, all the ability, all the communication and so on. To me, this is a matter of choice.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And part of the problem is that we have not incentivized the right behaviors. I spent over a decade of my life working with self-insured companies. That means companies that make enough money that they don't buy commercial insurance. They just plan to pay for the health care for their employees out of their own profits. Those companies, the great thing about that is that they do incentivize the right behaviors. They're in a position to say, for example, you take a Sprint or Scott's Miracle-Gro or Nissan Automotives. They can say to their employees, look, if you go to the gym, to the fitness center that we've built for you right here at the office, at the factory, if you go on average 10 times a month, that's three days a week, you will only pay $40 a month for your insurance versus $80. If you participate in the smoking cessation program that Dr. Victory is running, you can take $30 a month off of your health care premium if you do X, Y, or Z. And that is what we should be doing, incentivizing the behaviors that we want rather than just saying, you know, you have insurance, therefore you have an entitlement. Everything is paid for. You have no personal obligation to take care of yourself. There's no accountability. You can be as overweight, as sedentary as you want. Use, you know, drugs. smoke, whatever it is, we have got to start returning the idea of personal responsibility and accountability and making and incentivizing those behaviors that we want people to do. You can start first and foremost by returning physical education to the public schools. When I was growing up, PE was a class we had four days a week. It doesn't exist anymore. That's right. Not anymore.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know about you, Steve, but to Dr. Kelly's point, I don't know about you, but when I was of that age and all the way up until I graduated high school, we had to run the mile four times a year, and you had to run it under a certain amount of time or you didn't pass.
SPEAKER 16 :
Six and a half minutes was what I remember in terms of the time, and I was in that category as well. I was going to mention on commercials. The one thing you've never seen a commercial is you never see a commercial where someone's telling you the food that, you know, this particular food is bad. Right. You know, people will talk about how, you know, their food is fortified and healthy and this and that, but, you know, no one ever comes down to the commercial. Maybe Bobby Kennedy will get it to this point and says, you know, look, don't eat this. You know, I mean, M&Ms are bad for you. I don't care. I mean, so, you know, the Mars candy company is going to be upset about it, but at some point, You know, the best education is, you know what, this is not good. But nobody ever tells you what's not good.
SPEAKER 14 :
And really quick, I know we're getting tight on time, but Dr. Kelly, as somebody that, you know, you guys travel around the world, I do as well. I don't stay in the United States the entire time. And I will tell you, when you leave the U.S., even going south of the border, what they have on the shelf to buy and the ingredients of are way different than what we have here. And yet that's a second world country. And I just think to myself, you know, That happens there, but we can't get this done at home. Why?
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly, because Americans are addicted to convenience and to inexpensive items. We have allowed our big ag to put these food additives in because it makes it cheaper for them. High fructose corn syrup is inexpensive. Some of the fats that are being used have longer shelf lives, even though they're wildly unhealthy. So if you look at a box of Kellogg's Froot Loops that is sold in the United States, I think it has 32 ingredients in that. A box of Kellogg's Fruit Loops, same company, same presumably product. If you look at that box sold in England, it has five ingredients. Right. Okay? Because they do not allow in the U.K., they don't allow the artificial coloring, the artificial preservatives, the artificial flavorings, all of this stuff with words so long you can't even pronounce them, let alone know what the heck they are. And this is a problem. And so Robert Kennedy Jr., although I don't agree with everything he has said over the years, the reality is he is darn right that we are feeding our population and certainly our children foods that contain things that are leading to poor health. And this is particularly problematic when you're talking about people who are in food subsidies, food stamps, or other sort of federal food programs, because we are also, with rare exception, paying for the health care for those same people. So we are making them unhealthy, and then we're on the hook to pay for their diabetes. their obesity, and their heart disease.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's pure insanity.
SPEAKER 14 :
Real quick, Steve, you might know this answer. I think we've got a minute and we're going to have to do this quickly, but it worked for a very large company. For a short while during COVID, they deducted from our checks a surcharge for not being vaccinated, just like for tobacco users. Are there any lawsuits out there regarding getting that money back and with damages?
SPEAKER 16 :
I haven't seen one, but there sure should be because that just makes zero sense. I mean, you know, at the time it was, I mean, you probably can't win that lawsuit, John, because the public health department was essentially mandating it for people. So the companies were trying to eliminate their own liability, and they were using that money to help offset the potential liability for people getting it in the workplace and having someone die or get really sick from it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, guys, I'll let you go. As always, look forward to next week. Thank you so much for all that you do. Dr. Kelly, I'll let you go first. You're always a wealth of information. I learn every week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. Always great to be with you guys.
SPEAKER 14 :
Appreciate you very much, Steve, as well. Thanks for putting this up, or putting this together, I should say, about five years ago. It's been a joy the entire time, and I've learned a ton.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I agree. I love being on here. We should someday do a show for a couple of hours of what we all do to be extra healthy. Let's get our secrets on the table, John.
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All right, and we are back. One minute left. And as always, I want to say a special thanks again to Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House. And we may very well do exactly what Steve said and what are some of your secrets even when it comes to staying healthy. And I hope that we see out of this particular administration, I believe we will, some things along those lines, some PSAs and things that we can get back even into schools and education and how do we get people healthy again because the reality is we have gotten completely away from that. And it's a mindset change that we actually have to have in this country. Yes, I know government can do a lot in that regard, but really this starts from the ground up, getting families to do this and have everybody on board at the same time. And, yes, I know there's a lot of great companies out there that do a really good job with their own employees of this, but we have got to spread that around and make that more congruent across the board from coast to coast in every segment that we have going. out there so we'll do our very best to put that together with steve and i appreciate his suggestions on that that's it for hour one hour two is coming up don't go anywhere rush to reason denver's afternoon rush klz 560.
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And in studio today, we have Dr. Jill Vecchio, and she will be here for both hours, and she'll be speaking about the money and health care, and that will be in the second hour. Good morning, Jill. Good morning, Yvonne. It's great. I seldom come into the studio, so this is kind of fun. And it's great to be here together. So I'd like to remind you that the website... is kimmonson.com. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter. You'll get the first look at all her upcoming guests, as well as the most recent essays. And the email is kim at kimmonson.com. Thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. And thank you to Hooters Restaurant for their sponsorship. There are five locations in Loveland, Aurora, Longtree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs with great lunch specials Monday through Friday or dine-in or to-go. Wednesdays are wings days. Buy 20 wings and get an additional 10 for free. And they have offers for to go and dine in. And Hooters restaurants is the great place to get together with friends to watch your favorite teams. Today's word of the day is mediocrity. And it's spelled M-E-D-I-O-C-R-I-T-Y. It's a noun that means the quality of being average, ordinary, or not very good at something. Its Latin parts together literally mean halfway up the mountain. In other words, a failure to excel. And I remember when I was young, my dad used to always say, don't be mediocre. Strive to be good and never, ever be mediocre. And the Spanish lesson for the day is if you know the word mediocre in English, it is spelled exactly the same way in Spanish. So this is a Latin derived root. So you can say mediocre or you can say mediocre. Okay. All right. So the reason that was the word for the day is it's actually going to come up later since today is Medal of Honor Friday. So we are going to honor a Medal of Honor recipient with his Medal of Honor citation. And this is for Patrick H. Brady of the United States Army, born in 1936 for actions on January 6, 1968.
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I'll read the Medal of Honor citation, or I'll get started on it. For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty, Major Bradley distinguished himself while serving in the Republic of Vietnam commanding a UH-1H ambulance helicopter. volunteered to rescue wounded men from a site in enemy-held territory, which was reported to be heavily defended and to be blanketed by fog. To reach the site, he descended through heavy fog and smoke and hovered slowly along a valley trail, turning his ship sideward to blow away the fog with the backwash from his rotor blades. Despite the unchallenged close-range enemy fire, he found the dangerously small site where he successfully landed and evacuated two badly wounded South Vietnamese soldiers. He was then called to another area completely covered by dense fog where American casualties lay only 50 meters from the enemy. Two aircraft had previously been shot down and others had made unsuccessful attempts to reach the site earlier in the day. With unmatched skill and extraordinary courage, Major Brady made four flights to this embattled landing zone and successfully rescued all of the wounded. On his third mission of the day, Major Brady once again landed at a site surrounded by the enemy.
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The friendly ground force, pinned down by enemy fire, had been unable to reach and secure the landing zone. Although his aircraft had been badly damaged and his controls partially shot away during his initial entry into this area, he returned minutes later and rescued the remaining injured. Shortly thereafter, obtaining a replacement aircraft, Major Brady was requested to land in an enemy minefield where a platoon of American soldiers was trapped. A mine detonated near his helicopter, wounding two crew members and damaging his ship. In spite of this, he managed to fly six severely injured patients to medical aid. Throughout that day, Major Brady utilized three helicopters to evacuate a total of 51 seriously wounded men, many of whom would have perished without prompt medical treatment. Major Brady's bravery was in the highest traditions of the military service and reflects great credit upon himself and the U.S. Army. And the quote, those were the times, those were the times. Does that not just amaze you? 51 people, and he flew in how many more times?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think he did. Did he fly four missions that day? Four missions that day?
SPEAKER 04 :
Three helicopters to evacuate 51 wounded men.
SPEAKER 11 :
A line, I mean... It's incredible. It really is incredible. And that movie, Hacksaw Ridge, this reminds me of that movie. It's just, you just kept going and going. And you really wonder, you know, God's providential hand being on a situation, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
And we definitely stand on the shoulders of great men. Yeah, yeah. So the quote of the day comes directly out of the quote book that you can get at the Center of American Values because that is where they have all the Medal of Honor pictures of the people who were recipients of that. And it is actually the quote of Major Brady. Okay. And it goes, mediocrity and failure result from choice, not chance. Success is born of courage alone. And God has made this marvelous gift infinitely available to all who ask for it. And this is from Patrick H. Brady, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient. And I had the chance to visit the Center for American Values last year, and it is really phenomenal in Puebla, right on the Riverwalk. And they even have, if you like a particular picture and quote of a Medal of Honor recipient, you can ask the staff to see the video that tells you more about that person. And so it's a really incredible place to go. Please make a point of going there and take your children so that they can see the amazing feats of courage and bravery of our armed forces personnel. So our headlines today, let's cover a few of them. First one would be that Colorado taxpayers are now paying more than $340,000 for losses caused by wolves. And that's just in a certain area. So that'll be the tip of the iceberg. So people can decide whether that was a good thing or not. But I don't think stressing out our flocks and our cattle across Colorado and having flocks decimated is a good idea. But we'll get back to that. So the second headline would be that, oh, of course, everybody saw this one. D.C. Democrats behave like heartless, spoiled brats at the president's congressional address. And after that, we have another one, which is presidential hopeful California Gavin Newsom changes his stripes, stating he is profoundly sickened by the unfairness of men playing in women's sports. Since when does he have that attitude towards it? And how long will it last? Vice President Vance, Tulsi Gabbard, and Pete Hagseth go to the border. And if we thought that this border invasion could not be stopped, all it took was a new president. So my feeling is that those who say it can't be done need to get out of the way of those who are doing it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, constitutionally, it's the president's job. It is. To prevent invasion of our country. That is specifically in the Constitution. One of his specifically authorized duties is to prevent this country from being invaded.
SPEAKER 04 :
So as a former military member where we are supposed to be all about protecting the nation and our borders and things like that, it always amazed me how the previous administration just let that happen. And when asked about it, they were like, oh, well, nothing can be done. And I knew better. Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
In fact, by not doing anything, you could argue that it's kind of treasonous to just open the borders and let potential enemies to our country in and then harbor them and give them comfort, which is specifically the definition of treason.
SPEAKER 04 :
And comforts above and beyond that which is offered to American citizens. Any comfort.
SPEAKER 11 :
They could have given them a pup tent, and that could have been considered treason, to be honest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So I guess the bottom line is there's ways to do things and ways not to do things. We need to secure our border for our own national security and sovereignty, and we need to have an immigration system that actually works. And we could tweak our... and make it some better, but the answer isn't just ignoring it and letting everything happen the way it was happening. Absolutely. Sue, I would like to also say that the show comes to you because of really great sponsors like Roger Mangan of State Farm Insurance Team.
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And welcome back and happy Friday. I am Yvonne Pius. Kim is traveling today. Kim's website is KimMonson.com. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter and you'll get the first look at her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. Her email is Kim at KimMonson.com. And thank you for contributing to support Kim's independent voice and exercise our right to freedom of speech. Through all of Kim's work with the veterans, she is honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all they are doing to raise the money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado, at 6th and Colfax. Paula Sarles is the president of the foundation, and she is a Marine veteran and a Gold Star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. You can help by donating at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And Paula Sarles will celebrate her 76th birthday this month by climbing 426 stairs at Red Rocks on March 15th. Please consider a donation to the USMC Memorial Foundation. And now I would like to welcome our next guest, who is Lori Gimmelstein of Colorado Parent Advocacy Network. And you have a big upcoming event. Please tell us about it. Good morning, Yvonne. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's great to join you this morning. Good morning. Yes, so the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network and Colorado Principled Physicians are co-hosting the second part of our Rocky Mountain Summit on Safeguarding Children from Gender Affirming Treatment coming up on Sunday, April 6th at the Inverness Hilton in Englewood. We're bringing together two powerful panels. We have a medical, legal, and policy perspectives panel And we're thrilled. We have leading experts from across the nation coming to this event. We're bringing in Deputy Counsel Candace Jackson, many of who know is on the Trump's administration. She's general counsel for the U.S. Department of Education. We're bringing in Dr. Lear Sapir. He is a fellow with the Manhattan Institute and is a data analyst. And we also have a Colorado pediatrician, Dr. Michelle Stanford, joining this panel to bring her perspective on the harms of gender-affirming treatment. And we are thrilled to be bringing in renowned psychiatrist, Dr. Miriam Grossman, who's also a best-selling author of the book, Lost in Transnation. And then we will be hosting our family impact panel after that panel presents. And many of your listeners know the story of Erin Lee's daughter. And Erin and her daughter Chloe will be joining this panel. Chloe will be speaking for the first time about her experience. And we're also thrilled to have Florida parent, January Littlejohn, who your listeners probably saw in President Trump's State of the Union address the other evening, where she was honored for the work she is doing as a parents' rights advocate to protect children from this transgender ideology. And we also will be having Matt and Judith Ray, and they will be bringing kind of a spousal perspective on the harm of these treatments and gender-affirming treatments. And we hope that your listeners will join us. Tickets are on sale now. We're very excited to announce that we've just been approved for continuing medical education units for physicians. So the event is accredited for 1.25 AMA PRA Category 1 credits, which is wonderful. And we hope people get tickets on our website, coloradoparents.org.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow, that's quite the lineup. That's going to be quite the event. So great that you're doing something like that to bring awareness to a very serious situation.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, absolutely. I think, you know, when I think of what has happened, excuse me, in the last year, we hosted our first part of this summit last year. We had Chloe Cole, who many people know is a very well-known young adult who has detransitioned and is suing her medical providers. And we also had Dr. Travis Morrell, who is the founder of Colorado Principals physicians who's now co-hosting the event this year, speaking out on, you know, somebody as a physician, he had actually participated as a doctor. And when he learned of the harms of what was happening, he had to put a stop to it. And so we're just so thrilled that over the last year, we're seeing the culture shift here in Colorado. And I do have to say, it's very alarming with all of the evidence, all of the people that are detransitioning and speaking out against the harm, there's still such a push for these treatments here in the state of Colorado. And people need to really be curious as to why is this? The Truth Center and Kaiser Permanente are two clinics that offer gender-affirming treatment to minors. So children as young as eight years old are receiving puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones. And when President Trump put down the executive order to stop federal funding to any hospital clinic physician that was providing these medical treatments, back in early February, the True Center actually stopped. But now they have resumed treatment. And we need to call attention. We need people to come to this summit to learn the truth and to dig into what is happening in regards to the scientific, ethical, legal concerns around these treatments. And we need to come together to stand up for what is right and what is true and protect children.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right, and I actually have had the opportunity to see Dr. Murrell on a couple occasions, and it is just amazing the information he has as to the damage that can occur. So I wholeheartedly invite people that are skeptical, that don't know how to feel about the situation, to go and listen to the actual facts of of surrounding the whole situation. This is not an emotional thing. This is an actual, factual, medical thing. And if harms are being done, people should know that before they engage in either performing that harm or subjecting themselves to that harm. What do you think, Dr. Jill?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I remember when I was in medical school a long time ago, in the 80s, late 80s, we actually had as part of our classroom, we had a couple of transitioned, transsexual, surgically altered patients. men who had gone to women, and they gave a lecture to us, and basically they said, we wouldn't recommend this for anybody. We felt as though we were in the wrong body, but after all of this treatment and all of this surgery, we were more depressed than ever, and the fact that we had permanently kind of mutilated our bodies and changed our hormones and everything did not help. So, I mean, it... We've known that was decades ago. And they had to go through a lot of treatment and psychoanalysis before they were allowed to have this surgery. Now it just seems like all they have to do is question, like a tomboy is thrown into this program.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, and I think Dr. Murrell really helps by giving that informed consent kind of thing, that informed what can happen all the way through that people aren't receiving before they get these things. And back to you, Lori, how would you like to close your statement on this and your invitation, again, reinforce where it's going to be and when?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, so it's time to start asking these questions. We have to stand up for these permanent consequences that are happening to children, the bone loss, chronic pain, infertility, sexual dysfunction, and irreversible surgeries, just like Dr. Jill was just saying, that fail to bring these promised happiness. So I invite your listeners to go online to our website today at coloradoparents.org and get tickets to our upcoming summit on April 6th.
SPEAKER 04 :
We look forward to seeing everybody there. Fantastic. And can you give the website one more time? Absolutely. coloradoparents.org. Okay. Any last thing you'd like to add on the subject?
SPEAKER 21 :
I would just be thrilled for more people to engage in this conversation. We saw earlier this week that The House Democrats in the House Health and Labor Committee voted down a parent's right to give consent to their child's health care treatment, medical and mental health care treatment. Every single Democrat voted against it. And I encourage people to call their representatives and ask why that they believe that the government knows better than the parents. that we need to work together, come together, and stand up for what is right and what is true to protect Colorado's children.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you. And, you know, there's nothing more important than protecting our children, both from mental and from physical harm. And I can see. And like I said, I've heard Dr. Morrell speak. And I know the details, which I won't share here because there's a lot of families going to and from schools at this point. But there are some some serious damage. There is some serious damage that can happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, and also, doesn't it kind of amaze you, Lori, that whenever you see interviews of these kids with a gender dysphoria or uncertainty, they always want to excitedly rattle off at least three psychiatric diagnoses that they have. I have PTSD. I have anxiety disorder. I'm bipolar. And then I also have this gender dysphoria. And to me, it's kind of like then... Why aren't we talking about the gender dysphoria being among your psychiatric diagnoses rather than saying, oh, you're so confused. You know, you have all these psychiatric illnesses, issues. Yet you're completely justified in your gender identification. You know what I mean? It just seems like we're separating out this one social entity from what should be a psychiatric entity.
SPEAKER 04 :
And why wouldn't we go first to the softer side of things? Right. Which is that before you go into any type of medical practice, surgery, possibly irreversible situation. So yes, if nothing else, why wouldn't we start there? I mean, it seems like the reasonable thing to do. And well, we really appreciate you, Lori. Thank you so much for being with us this morning. And this show comes to you because of great sponsors like La Vaca Meat.
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And welcome back on this fabulous Friday. I'm Yvonne Paez filling in for Kim Monson. And Kim's website is kimmonson.com. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter and you'll get the first look at her upcoming guests as well as most of her essays. And her email is kim at kimmonson.com. Thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom of speech. And now I would like to welcome our next guest, General Joe Arbuckle, U.S. Army retired. Welcome, General.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks, Yvonne. It's very nice to speak with you. And thanks for calling in for Kim. I'm sure she's happy you're there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning. Yes, well-deserved vacation for her.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, I'm sure. Well, what do you want to talk about this morning?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'd love to see what is on your radar first, General, and then I'll have a couple questions of my own. But what is on your radar today?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I continue to spend most of my time as a volunteer with STARS that stand together against racism and radicalism in the services. And the website is STARS, S-T-A-R-R-S dot U-S. We've had, Kim, for about the past four years, two strategic goals. One is to get rid of the mandatory COVID vaccination in the military. We worked hard to do that and played, I think, a pretty key role in making that happen. So that's been accomplished. But still, there's some remedies that we're seeking to put into effect. for those service members who are harmed by the vaccine. So that's one goal. The other is to get rid of DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, out of our military. And that has been, thanks to President Trump, largely accomplished, but we still have some follow-on actions we're working today. And you probably recall that President Trump campaigned hard on one of his mandates, and that was to remove CRT, critical race theory, and DEI from the military. and the other was to rebuild our military into a lethal fighting force. And he's, true to his word, just the day he was in our grade, the day after, he's put out about five different executive orders to accomplish those two things. But they're not complete. There's still some follow-ons that need to be done. And that's what we're working right now within STARS. And to do that, our group has written 12 different position papers. Ten of those deal with getting rid of CRT and DEI from the military. One of them is the COVID vaccine remedies. And then one calls for a major study to look at our defense posture for the 21st century and reorient everything pretty much in the Department of Defense roles and missions and that sort of thing. On top of that, of course, Pete Pegseff, as the new Secretary of Defense, has hit the ground running. And to augment the executive orders that the President has issued, the ones I just mentioned, Pete has put out memorandums to the entire Department of Defense to provide implemented instructions, and he's doing a great job there. One thing that's of interest I'm looking at right now, on his personal stationery, about the day after he was He was approved by the Senate to be the Secretary of Defense. He wrote in handwriting, DOD does not equal DEI. And under that, he said, there's no exceptions, no name changes. In other words, don't change the name of DEI to try to hide it or delays. Those who do not comply will no longer work here. Signed, Pete Hicks, Secretary of Defense. So that's what we're up to right now. And I can dive into that a little bit deeper if you like.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's pretty straightforward. And like you said, I mean, I was also part of the Armed Forces. I was in the Army as well, General. And, you know, we have one mission, and that is lethality. I mean, we have one mission. If we are put to use, then there is one thing we have to do. And hopefully you and I know that we would like to avert any war as possible because you win every war that you don't fight. But in the event that we do have to fight, there is one thing that we are supposed to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly. To tie into that, and thanks a lot for your service. I know you won an ROTC scholarship and served five years and got out as a captain, so that's great. Thank you. Pete Hicks has, on your point there, four things that he's focusing on. Lethality, as you mentioned. The other, which is really, really important, is meritocracy. And we know that for decades in peace and war, our military has been driven by two things. One is equal opportunity for everybody, and the other is meritocracy. By that, of course, we mean personnel actions are based upon how people perform, their merit, their meritocracy, not based upon artificial goals and quotas based upon race, sex, or ethnicity. And that's what DEI has been pushing in our military recently. And so As that's removed, we're rightfully getting back to equality, meritocracy, or fighting readiness, as you just commented on. And Pete's absolutely right. Pete Hicks said to focus on accountability. That has been a bedrock, as you know, of our military forever, and it's important to hold people accountable for what they do and what they don't do. Correct. And that just has not been done recently, and so he's putting emphasis on that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Excellent. And that's exactly it. I mean, it was always, at least when I was in, about equal opportunity and meritocracy. Because if we have equal rights and opportunity for everybody, then that's final. But if we have special rights for some people, then we don't have equal rights for everybody. And that should be easy for people to understand. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. And when a group of people based upon skin color or sex, for example, which is what's behind DEI, are given special privileges, in other words, standards are lowered for them for things like admission to our service academies, which has been going on and is still going on, but it's being stopped. Special consideration for promotions, special considerations on command selection boards and key assignments. That's wrong. That creates all kinds of morale problems within the services because of those special privileges. So this is great. I sense that the morale within the force is coming up and returning with the advent of President Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hague said, because they're getting back to why we exist, and that's to be prepared, as you said, to fight and win our nation's wars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, and to elevate people into a position that they're not ready for or can't do based on other factors is a setup, and it's a setup for failure, and it endangers them, the people around them, and the mission.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly, and so when you have the special privileges, not based on meritocracy, to do that, you have to lower standards. Correct. Such as physical fitness, and that's exactly what's happened. Just so we can say, well, for example, the first... female graduated from Ranger School many years ago. There was a big issue about that and the physical standards being lowered to do that. General Brown, who was recently retired as the Joint Chief of Staff when he was the four-star in charge of the Air Force, wanted to lower the number of white pilots just to give others a chance to be pilots. Well, when you lower the standards to be a pilot, You're increasing risk because the best are not being selected in terms of meritocracy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And I can say as a woman's service member, yes, they were slightly different standards on the APFT, Army Physical Fitness Test or whatever for women than for men. But they were based on their biological body differences. And they were considered equal when you compensated those differences. And anything that they would have taken down from there, I do not stand by at all. And as a matter of fact, I think they kind of messed up because the men were always struggling with the sit-ups because they're lifting their center of gravity, whereas we're sitting on ours and we didn't. So I think we should have had to do more sit-ups than the men. Wow. But anyway, so Dr. Jill Vecchio, did you want to add anything?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Hi, General Arbuckle. This is Dr. Jill Vecchio. I'm filling in for Kim along with Yvonne today. And thank you so much for everything you're doing. And thank you for your service. I'm curious from your standpoint, because so many higher up in the military will not speak to this. turning indoctrinated kind of emasculated people into warriors and it's getting more and more it has to be getting more and more difficult I know at the Air Force Academy they're not allowed to do just even mild hazing like calling the first years by some certain term they're not allowed to use that term anymore because they can't say maggots anymore yeah it may it may trigger people or something I mean it it's got to be hard to create warriors when
SPEAKER 06 :
considering what you have to start with where they come from out of high school these days what they're taught there and throughout their education and then to try and you know turn them into hardened Warriors can you comment on that sure well it has been hard with uh Dr Jill right yes it's been hard with uh with the wokeness that's been going on because of the lowering of standards and and the softening of the force as you just said however with that changing the type of person that wants to come into the military wants to be challenged.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wants to be challenged and pushed hard. And that's going to turn around, I think, pretty quickly, and we already see some of that happening. But there's a bigger issue here, and that's the demographic of the people that come into the military from society. As you know, for about the past, oh, 10, 15 years, only around 23% of those eligible to come into the military, age group 18 to about 24, can even pass the basic standards to come in. And one of those that's the hardest is physical, obesity. That's a huge problem. And so of the 23% that can pass the basic requirements to come in with no criminal activity and a high school GED, for example, only about 9% of that 23% is interested in coming into the military. So that is a challenge. So we're working really on that 9% within the 23%. come in and once they go through basic training and see what it's all about you know what you're talking about turns around and Marine Corps among all the services always has done that the best because they've always said we're tough and if you want to come join the Marines you better be ready and they get and they meet the recording goals because of that that's what the rest of services are doing right now trying to turn that around
SPEAKER 04 :
Excellent. And I believe there is some good news on the recruiting numbers. Do you know anything about that, General?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. In the case of the Army, Yvonne, for the first time just last year, the Army met its goals, I think it was the first time in 15 years. But, you know, the bigger picture is we went to an all-voluntary military in 1973 after Vietnam. We've gone through, the military has, the greatest recruiting crisis since 1973 for the reasons I just outlined, basically the demographics. And then add to that, here's another huge factor, the wokeness. About 70% of all those who come into the military come in because they have either a family member or a friend who is in the military or has been. So there's a direct linkage between military service in the past, current, and then those people that come in. Correct. That tie was broken to a large degree because of wokeness. Parents and friends started telling their kids and their relatives, you know, I wouldn't really go into the military today because it's woke. It's not what it used to be. We suffered because of that in the recruiting area. Again, that's being turned around.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Well, thank you, General. And is there any thought you'd like to wrap up with today?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, we're definitely getting our military turned around. We're headed in the right direction. But it is going to take some time to flesh out the mentality, the ideology that this wokeness has brought with us. But that's going to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Well, we will be back in the next segment with General Arbuckle. But this show comes to you because of great sponsors like Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back. I'm Yvonne Paez. Kim is traveling today, and I'd like to remind all listeners that Kim's website is KimMonson.com. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter, and you'll get first look at her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. Her email is kim at kimmonson.com. And thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom of speech. We are speaking with General Joe Arbuckle, U.S. Army retired. Welcome back, General.
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Thanks a lot, Yvonne. It's a pleasure to be with you.
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Thank you. So I would love to hear about other thoughts that you have about what's been changing since the new administration kicked in and since Pete Hegseth has taken the helm.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, of course, all the directives and so forth I mentioned earlier, but also there's been some changes of leadership at the very top, as you probably noticed earlier. General Brown, past chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has retired. And in addition to that, the Vice Chief of Staff for the Air Force, the four-star in charge of the Navy, a female admiral, has been asked to be retired. And frankly, in that case, that was an example of diversity, equity, inclusion. When the selection process was underway for the CNO of the Navy, there was a male who was a warfighter throughout his entire career in the Pacific primarily and competing against the female admiral. And Secretary of Defense Austin, to his credit, said, we need to pick this warfighter guy to be in charge of the Navy. Well, President Biden overruled that and selected the female admiral. just to be able to say I think that for the first time a female is in charge of the entire United States Navy. And so she, under the new administration, has been asked to retire, and they're looking for a replacement right now. In addition, all the senior lawyers in all three services have been asked to retire and be replaced because primarily, I believe, they tended to be too woke. That's an issue within our JAG Corps, within the military. It has been for some time. So that's happening. The changes of leadership send a signal throughout the ranks that we're serious about getting rid of this DEI.
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Right. People that get promoted need to be promoted for the right reasons, and it has to be on merit. And let the chips fall where they may. And I, again, as a woman service member, I am not... I don't feel slighted that somebody is being taken out because – and it is a woman because I don't know the circumstances of her promotions. But understanding the climate we were in, I can – think that maybe there might have been some issues. So as somebody who's not involved in those decisions, I can stand by and watch knowing that we do need to have the best people at the top leading our military. You cannot teach what you do not know. You cannot lead where you do not go. And so there's just no way we need to be popping people in there because of sideline circumstances. And Dr. Jill, comments?
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And General Arbuckle, my brother's a retired lieutenant colonel, also Army, so we're in a big Army club here, but also Army, and he made a comment years ago that by the time Any military general reaches that level of the multiple stars. They seem to turn into more of a politician than a warrior. And frequently they kind of they let the warrior part slide and focus more on. continuing their advancement politically.
SPEAKER 04 :
And being a two-star general, yeah, I'm sure you can comment to that and what you've seen.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Could you comment on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Dr. Joe, unfortunately, there's truth in that. And I don't think my opinion is that's not done for the sake of getting promoted higher. I think it's an indoctrination that comes from the infusion of political correctness in the military coming from the political side. And so it becomes more and more apparent to how you go, that politics are playing into the major decisions within the military, again, coming from the political appointees and even from the president. So there is, I think, that tendency that you just commented on. But again, I'll reiterate, I don't think it's to get promoted. I think it's just the culture, the climate.
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I see. And do you think that Secretary Hegseth has any kind of a plan for, do you think, well, number one, do you think that that needs to be kind of remedied? And if so, do you think that there will be some kind of a program to remedy that?
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Yes, exactly. And that's with his emphasis on warfighting and lethality and getting rid of political correctness. And DEI was all about political correctness. And so, yes, indeed, that's his focus. He wants leaders to be warfighters. And basically, he said, if you can't do that, then get out. There's no place for you in the Department of Defense.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
That seems reasonable.
SPEAKER 11 :
That seems quite reasonable. Promising, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, exactly. I don't know how much time you have, but if you want to talk about the COVID vaccine and remedies, that's it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure, we can go to that. We have a few more minutes.
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Okay. All right. Well, as I mentioned earlier, in Starz, we played, I think, an important role to get rid of that illegal COVID vaccine. And by the way, I've taken all the shots in the world, and you have too. The issue is not vaccination. The issue is not requiring our service members to take an experimental vaccine, and that's what COVID was. It was issued under emergency use authorization, which is a special category within vaccines. So it was declared to be illegal. It stopped, but now people, men and women in the uniform and out, have been harmed by the vaccine. And President Trump and one of his EOs, executive orders, said that anyone who was kicked out of the military for refusing to take the vaccine based on religious or other grounds may come back in with their rank restored, their pay restored, back pay restored, and all the other compensation. Well, the problem with that, that doesn't go far enough. There's only about 8,100 within the Department of Defense that were kicked out for refusing the vaccine, and it only addresses that small group. Now, what are the other groups? There are those that left voluntarily. They just got fed up. They didn't want to take the vaccine. They didn't like the climate, so they got out voluntarily. In many cases, they got less than honorable discharges, and that's a slap in the face. That should not happen. And those discharges need to be upgraded along with their DD-214s that go with that, as well as any negative personnel actions that might be in their file or simply refusing an illegal vaccination. A third category is those that stayed on active duty but still refused to take it, and they were being processed when the thing was stopped, the mandatory vaccine was stopped. Well, they were harmed because they weren't, in many cases, considered for promotion or key assignments or any other positive personnel action while they were being basically investigated for not taking the vaccine. All those negative personnel actions that are in their files need to be taken out, and any other harm that was done to them from a personnel management standpoint. Finally, those were physically harmed with myocarditis, strokes, and that sort of thing that are tied to the vaccine. Need to be taken care of under the VA and there's something called a pact at PACT Act and that includes toxic burn exposure from the Mideast. Also Agent Orange. Well, the vaccine is toxic, so one of the things we're pushing from stars is to get any veteran that's been harmed with those kind of conditions from the vaccine included in that act and then they will get care from the VA for the harm that's being done to them physically. So that's the entire gamut of the way this terrible thing called the mandatory vaccine was injected on our service members and the harm that was done. And oh, by the way, there are about 37,000 applications for religious exemptions to not take the vaccine. Guess how many were approved? 400 out of 37,000. There was no intent from the beginning to approve anyone. to get out, to be exempt from the vaccine because of religious beliefs.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, General, I just don't understand. Because if there was any risk with an emergency use only type of vaccine to the health of our armed forces personnel, and that's what we need them to be, is healthy to fight. So why would we... I can bat as it was in the civilian sector. I cannot believe that our military gambled with that, knowing that we always, you know, need more people and the recruiting numbers. And why would we adversely affect or harm perfectly healthy service members? I mean, did we not learn anything from the anthrax vaccine?
SPEAKER 06 :
Precisely the same thing happened there. You're right. That was declared illegal. That's a good question. That's what's bothered many of us. And, of course, the excuse was the vaccines needed for readiness purposes, but that's absolutely not true. In fact, it did more harm than good. The DOD's numbers over a period of a year and a half said that 95 soldiers over that year and a half period had died, and the cause was attributed to attributed to not caused by the vaccine during that same period of time. Only within one year, that same period of time, we had 585 military members commit suicide.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my goodness. Well, with that, we're going to have to close. But, you know, it should not be that our military members are going on to commit suicide because of these things. Thank you so much, General, for being with us today. And the quote for the end of the show is today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to books. And the quote for the end of the show is, it comes directly, I'm sorry, it comes directly from the first part of the show where it's from the Medal of Honor quote book because it's Medal of Honor Friday. and it is mediocrity and failure result from choice, not chance. Success is born of courage alone, and God has made this marvelous gift infinitely available to all who ask for it. Patrick Brady, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient.
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Young like a new moon rising fierce Through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don't want no one to cry But tell them if I don't survive
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I don't think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can't understand that.
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And it's not fair just because you're a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn't.
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And welcome to The Kim Monson Show on a fabulous Friday. I am Yvonne Paez, and I am thrilled to host the show as Kim is traveling today. Let's have a conversation. And thank you for listening. Each of you are valued and treasured. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of heart, soul, mind, and body. And thank you to Producer Joe for your good work. Oh, it's my pleasure again, Yvonne. And Kim's website is KimMonson.com, and that's M-O-N-S-O-N. And you can sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter, and you'll get first look at her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. And you can email Kim at KimMonson.com. Thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom and speech. And thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. Reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil and gas and oil and gas derivatives fuel the hopes, dreams, and prosperity of everyday Americans. Today's word of the day is mediocrity, and that's M-E-D-I-O-C-R-I-T-Y. It's a noun that means the quality of being average, ordinary, or not very good at something. And its Latin parts together literally mean halfway up the mountain. In other words, a failure to succeed or excel. And I remember when I was young, my dad would always say, whatever you do or do not be mediocre. And the Spanish lesson for the day, the word mediocre is spelled exactly the same in Spanish. And it's mediocre. So there's a word you didn't know you already know in Spanish. And the quote of the day is from our Medal of Honor recipient, Patrick H. Brady, U.S. Army. And that whole citation was done in the first hour. So if you want to hear his entire citation, you can refer to it when the show replays. And... Here it is. Mediocrity and failure result from choice, not chance. Success is born of courage alone, and God has made this marvelous gift infinitely available to all who work for it. Sue, on the headlines today, I did see that Colorado taxpayers are paying more than $340,000 for losses caused by wolves. And that includes the kills. And, of course, anybody who really understands livestock and how things work when cattle and livestock are stressed. They tend to not be able to get pregnant or sometimes they will abort their babies because just the stress causes an involuntary abortion. So it just, it's not good. So we pay for, we're gonna be paying for the kills as well as all the lower births based to the stress in the cattle. And we also have in studio today Dr. Jill Vacchio and she will be talking with us a little later. And the other headline I'd like to highlight is that the D.C. Democrats have behaved like spoiled brats at the president's congressional address. So what do you think about that, Dr. Jill?
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Well, you know, and I come from Iowa and we still have farmland in Iowa. And we until a couple of years ago, we had cattle as well. We didn't have wolves. And from what I understand, they're actually not. Are they really being reintroduced or just introduced? Is I think one of the questions people bring up. The other one is they can run a cow to death. A dog can run a cow to death. And, you know, sure, cows can kick, but a lot of times they'll just take off running. Every time you lose a cow, and that's not even if it's a breeding animal, but for slaughter, that's like $2,000. Right. Right out of your pocket.
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And the worst part is there's so many people who cling to care about animals. And they think that the ranchers and the people who... who actually have them and care for them, don't care for them well, and they're always trying to micromanage that from some city position. And if you care about animals, why would you put a predator in their midst to stress them out and kill them? Keep the predators where there's appropriate prey. There was a reason that they were eradicated from here. And the ones that were reintroduced were not re-anything. They were introduced because they're not the type of wolf we originally had here. And they were living happily in the forests of Canada before they plucked them out of it. Some of them don't survive on the transfer. So there's no reason for this. Yeah. So... And at this point, I would like to welcome our guest, Jim May Cattleman with Lavaca Meat Company. I bet he understands a little bit about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, good morning, Yvonne. And it's Dr. Jill there, too, right? Howdy, howdy. Hey, guys. Good morning. It's Joe this morning. I've been listening for the last hour. And just this topic about the wolves, yeah, it's real. It's real. And you're right. Now the next cows are going to be more like 3,000 to 4,000, and bulls are starting to bring 6,000 and 7,000 and 10,000.
SPEAKER 04 :
Supply and demand.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. So you're totally right about the wolves. Our ranches are in the kind of the black forest area there between Castle Rock and Kiowa, or a little east of Kiowa, actually. And then— My son spent seven or eight years up in Canada where, you're right, there's plenty of wildlife up there for a wolf. But there's places where wolves can be and there's places they shouldn't be. And certainly they shouldn't be in the middle of our food supply. You're right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct. Yeah. And where there are cattle being raised, there are also animals, pets, families. Yeah. Exactly. And horses, things like that, too, that's a problem to have a wolf around. Correct.
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Absolutely right. You know, as I've grown up in the feedlot industry, and we've done it all our lives, ranching, and now we have lots of feed yards, but a stray dog, you know, is fair game to us. I mean, we will not let an animal like that into our operation. If so, you know, we've got a gun to shoot them, and we feel entitled to do so because, you're right, they can not only... kill cattle they can knock down corrals they can do all kinds of things with and and you're right there's horses there's everything else to think about and there's people on those horses and and so it's very very important to protect your animals and the people who are working for you trying to care for those animals yeah and i'm glad you guys are hitting some of these things i think i've talked a lot about labaka meat of course um i think I've been on the show for a little over a year now every Friday, and I mean what I say. But there are a lot of these other things connected to our industry. I mean, there's an element out there that's just anti-beef or, frankly, anti-eating any kind of an animal or anything like that. And there's a lot of things going on here that we need to be made aware of, and we need to watch what the left is doing, and we need to be careful about – getting swept away by some of these dumb ideas like free-range chickens, for instance, the problem we're having with eggs now. And not only that, they killed a ton of chickens in this bird flu deal that I'm not sure that was really warranted. But there's a reason for why those prices are so high. Certainly, I want to hit some of those topics going forward. But I do want to say a couple quick things about Lavaca meat. First off, Our store is a store that handles only the best premium beef that's aged and handled right. And we've done it all our lives, and we feel like we're more concerned about trying to do the best at it than even it being a super, it's not a super profit center for what we do, but it's important to us that people have the opportunity to have really good stuff. If you want to check it out, I want to put a shout out to the Grand Cafe down there in Littleton where they have a burger on our menu and a good steak, a little breakfast steak and a nice little... Filet and different things on that menu that are ours, and I really want to push that. If anybody wants to try our meat sometime, just let them cook it the way you want and try it. We have everything, nothing to hide behind. We just do the best job we can in everything that we do.
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And it is delicious. I stopped by and picked some up, and we had Lavaca States last week with the grandmothers at home, and they swore it was the best steak they'd ever had.
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Well, that's great for you to hear. I mean, I look forward to meeting you in person one of these days, but if it's possible, are you from here in Colorado?
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I am, actually. I came to Colorado to go to Colorado State University and got my degree in animal science. Oh, wow. That's one of us. I'm a friendly, yes.
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The Gable family are probably some of the best people that I know, and we've been in business. Kate is the president of our Nebraska feed yard, Herd Co., and You know, this guy, his dad got run over by a bull. It's been 30, 40 years ago now. And so he's kind of a paraplegic, but he still is just like he was a livestock judge, and he just pushes on and works as hard as anybody I've ever seen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, when I was out on that feedlot for other reasons, and he was just right there working along the rest of them.
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He is super. I mean, Case, you just... Can't say enough about Case and Christie. This is how good they are with cattle. Case had the grand champion spirit at the Colorado State Fair. But the crazy thing about that, that's really an accomplishment. That's the best animal in the state. And a year later, Christie had the same thing, his sister. And now his son, Stetson, has had the state champion at the Colorado State Fair. So they really know, you know, Steve was a livestock judge. or training livestock judging teams. And his intellect, his intelligence on that thing is so good and the way he can transfer it to people. But obviously, we know cattle through them, and we're very proud of that family and what they stand for and what they do.
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They're great. So thanks for giving them a shout-out. And do you have a cowboy poem for us today?
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I'm going to do one. Have I got a few minutes? I mean, I want to explain a couple of things here. My brother, Dan... And through your show, we helped vote for him, and he was... Steve Gable's actually a member of the Cattle Feeders Hall of Fame. There's only like 30, 35 of those people now that's been going on for about 15 years, and they put two people in every year. But my brother Dan was elected this year, and through Kim Monson and the show, we put a lot of votes out, we think. But he won hands away, and he deserves every bit of it. But I want to... My birthday was last Monday.
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Happy birthday.
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And Dan's birthday is this Monday. So we're a week apart. I was born March 30th, born March 10th. Uh, my next brother, Tom was born February 19th and Steve was born in June. You see a pattern here.
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I do. There was a time and season for things in your family.
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We got four brothers in this business. 4M Feeders is one of our other companies here in Colorado. And, uh, So the first time I ever wrote a poem, and I spent a lot of time, last week I talked about our trips. Dan and I would drive a 280Z way out to Nevada to our ranches out there when we were first getting started. At the very first, it was just looking to buy cattle, and then later on we bought a little ranch out there. So I got to know some of them. I spent some time in Elko and listened to the cowboy poetry and got to know Baxter Black and a few of those people, and that's all I wanted to do was listen to it. and this was the poem I'm going to give you today was my first poem that I ever wrote, and I really had no intention of ever being a cowboy poet at all, and I'm not sure I'm that great.
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Oh, we love you.
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But anyway, I wrote this poem in the year 2000 for my brother's 40th birthday, and my brother Dan was a really good athlete when he was By two or three years old, he's always kind of standing on his head and doing some crazy things, and then we'd find him standing on his head when we're buying shoes at a mall or in the doctor's waiting room. He's always just kind of standing on his head. That's part of this poem. I just told you we're all a year apart. But early on, Dan's the kind of guy, and I think we all are very competitive, and it's like we always pushed the envelope. We bought every cap that we could buy that the bank would let us buy, and we just kept on... trying to keep the yards full and kept building pins. And so in the early days, every once in a while there were more cattle that came in than we really even had room to take care of. But that just becomes part of what you do. So this poem is about... I was asked to do some stand-up, kind of, you know, get the party going for Dan's 40th birthday party. There it is, cul-de-sac there on Dry Creek. And there were about 100-some people there. And so I... I was looking for something to say or joke or something, and then the day before the party, these five or six loads, four or five loads of cattle, I don't know, came in, and everybody forgot to tell me they were coming, and we were completely full. So I had to really hustle and get them put away and get them into a little grass paddock there. And then I sat down at my computer and wrote this poem just because I was still too fired up to go back to sleep. It was 4 o'clock in the morning, and I wrote this in about 30 minutes.
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called Dan Sporting. The birthday poem I wrote for my brother Dan when he's 40 years old. Tell a young man he's been a buyer of cattle like you've never seen. And from 7 to 12 every day, he's a great machine. But last night, the phone rang at a quarter to 4. And I heard a Mexican voice say, there's four more trucks at the door, and all the pens are full in both yards, you see. I guess this is Dad's birthday present to me. Because I can still remember when he was real little. Got down on his knees and put his head in the middle. And raised his feet in the air as I watched from the bed. And he said, look at me. I can stand on my head. From that moment on, he used every chance to display to the world this upside-down face. Looking back now, I've often wondered and said, do you think maybe he might have spent too much time on his head? No, but don't sweat the small stuff like you're there turning grades. This here's a... Oh, that was great, Demay.
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Thank you for your cowboy poem this Friday.
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Hey, I tell you what, I'm going down the jump road here, and I hope you came across okay. It's great to meet you. I hope everybody has a great weekend, and I'll see you next time.
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Thank you, and happy trails. Thank you, Jim May Cattlemen with Lavaca Meat Company. And the show comes to you because of great sponsors like Roger Mangan.
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It's Friday!
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Welcome back, and I'm Yvonne Pius, and I'm pleased to host the show today, Kim is Traveling. Kim's website is KimMonson.com, and that's M-O-N-S-O-N. Sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter, and you'll get first look at all her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. And her email is Kim at KimMonson.com. Thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom of speech. Through all of Kim's work with veterans, she is honored to highlight the USMC Memorial Foundation and all the work that they are doing to raise the money to remodel the official USMC Memorial, which is located right here in Golden, Colorado, at 6th and Colfax. Paula Sarles is the president of the foundation and she is a Marine veteran and a gold star wife. Paula and her team are working diligently to make the remodel a reality. And you can help by donating at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I'd like to welcome our guest, Dr. Jill Vacchio. Welcome.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me, and I'm hanging out here in the studio with you. It's really nice. I haven't been there for a long time.
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Yes, it's great to have you in the studio today.
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So I'll just introduce myself, if that's okay. That would be great, and then let us know what's on your radar. Yeah, I've been on the show many times, and Kim always introduces me beautifully, but sometimes it's just easy to do it myself. I am a relatively newly retired physician specializing in radiology with a subspecialty in breast cancer and women's imaging for 30 years. And I got involved in health care policy when I read the Obamacare law. It's called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. I think that's a misnomer. I think in my research I found out it was more like the Patient Exposure and Unaffordable Care Act, so I like to call it PUCA. Right. So I started doing a bunch of talks and so forth and really educated myself on health care, how the whole health care system works. And I've been very surprised at a lot of things over the years. And it's an ongoing learning process. So, yeah, I wanted to talk about Kim and I have kind of been doing a bit of a series. On health care, you know, I mean, it was a big deal before Obamacare passed. And then when we thought maybe it could be overturned in 2017, it was a big deal again. And I was very active. And then when it wasn't repealed. which was unfortunate. But when it wasn't repealed, then everybody kind of forgot about it. Nobody talked about it. And I'm kind of like, wow, come on, guys, you know, engage. And they didn't. So I've just been kind of waiting on the sidelines. And I'm hoping that this administration is certainly in a position to really address health care reform. And there are so many things that they can do. So Kim and I have been kind of talking about that. Excellent. So one of the things I wanted to start with, because today we're going to kind of talk about money and financing in health care for the entire country. And it's amazing to me how much the government controls. They do control all of health care. And I wanted to read the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. I'm going to start with the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, and this is in the Bill of Rights. So the Tenth Amendment says, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people. And that's a part that people forget. It's to the people. So Health care is not one of the enumerated powers granted to the federal government in our Constitution. Here's a newsflash, folks. Health care is not the government's job. They have taken it on since they started Medicare and Medicaid, and we're going to talk a lot about Medicare and Medicaid here. Now, the Ninth Amendment says the enumeration of the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. In other words, healthcare is supposed to be in the hands of the states and the people. So when we look at government in healthcare, it's important to recognized that health care prior to the end of World War II was really private hospitals, private individuals, private doctors, communities, churches, all working together to take care of people. Doctors could give free care. Now they really can't give free care at all unless they are completely independent of government resources. services or they have their own practice. And what's interesting is before Obamacare passed, 90% of physicians were in private practice and they were employers and self-employed, not employees. Now, since Obamacare took effect, it's now 90% of physicians, their practices are owned by large corporations or large groups or governments. Wow, this is not sucked in? Pardon? I'm saying, wow, they just got sucked in then. Well, right, because Obamacare had so many regulations and so many restrictions and penalties on doctors' practices, and with electronic health records, it was too expensive and too much of a hassle. The overhead was crazy complying with government regulations and billing and coding, so doctors just gave up and sold their practices. So now they don't have control over their own decisions and think about that with COVID. So COVID couldn't have happened the way it did if doctors' practices and physicians themselves were forced to comply, relatively forced, right? You know, they could have quit, they could have rebelled, but they chose not to. But they were absolutely coerced into complying with whatever these big hospital groups and so forth said. And I'm going to explain to everybody how Medicare is the actual core of that control. So after World War II, there was a relative shortage of working-age males, working-age people working. So employers had to compete to get these employees, so they started offering things like health care benefits. Well, that started the whole problem with now the person providing the care, and this is an absolutely key concept that everybody needs to understand. Our problem today stems from the person giving the care, the health care provider like me, and the person receiving the care, the patients, are bureaucratically separated by the person paying for the care. In other words, insurance companies, third-party payers, and the government. Medicare and Medicaid started in 1965. Medicare is for roughly the easy way to understand it. Medicare is people over 65. Medicaid is for indigent people under 65, and that was vastly expanded during the Obamacare stuff, but now you've got government controlling so much of health care through Medicare and Medicaid. Medicare actually has immense power and control that a lot of doctors don't even understand. So even going back to medical schools, medical schools and residency and fellowship programs, so you go to medical school, you choose your, like if you're going to be a surgeon or a primary care doctor, then you have to do a residency, a certain number of years of training in that residency. Maybe you do a fellowship, and those are all at teaching hospitals or community hospitals that have slots, available positions for training these medical students and graduates. Well, Medicare pays a ton of money for that training. They pay something like $23 billion a year in 2024. $23 billion a year is paid for this medical education. So they control that. They control the number of medical students that are admitted to medical schools. They control the number of residency and fellowship positions that are available. And what those positions are. So they will limit the number of radiology resident positions. They'll limit the number of like ENT or surgery or ophthalmology, psychiatry. primary care, and they want more people in primary care. So a lot of times they'll restrict the number of specialties, subspecialties. So that's how they can control your ability, your access to positions just through that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, that's a lot of control.
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It's amazing. And then we talk about reimbursement. So all All of the reimbursement, all of the insurance companies, government programs, through Medicare, they determine how much some service or like lab tests or something like that, how much Medicare will pay for that. Now, Medicare reimburses more for some things, less for some things. Overall, Medicare is kind of a break-even for providers, hospitals, doctors, and so forth. So it's a break-even. So you're not making any money. You can't stay in business if all you see is Medicare. Now, when you talk about Medicaid, you always lose money on Medicaid patients. If a Medicaid patient walks into a doctor's office, that doctor is literally paying Medicaid. money out of their pocket and their practice to see that patient. Wow. And yet, so it's kind of amazing. Yeah, it's kind of amazing that they agree to do that, right?
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Yeah, it's definitely not beneficial to the doctor. Well, I think we will pick up on the other side of this with that one. And at this time, I just want to remind everybody that the show comes to us because of great sponsors like Karen Levine.
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And welcome back. I'm Yvonne Pius. Kim is taking the day off. The website is KimMonson.com, and that's M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Be sure to sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter, and you'll get the first look at all her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. Email Kim at KimMonson.com. And thank you for contributing to support our independent voice and the exercise of our right to freedom of speech. And something that should be on your bucket list is to visit the Center for American Values located in the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. The Center for American Values was co-founded by Medal of Honor recipient Drew Dix and Emmy Award-winning documentary maker Brad Padula. The Center is focused on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients and teaching and upholding the principles of America, honor, integrity, and patriotism. For more information, check out their website at AmericanValuesCenter.org. And we are speaking with Dr. Jill Vacchio. Welcome back, Dr. Vacchio. Thank you. And where did we leave off?
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We were talking about...
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Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement and how much health care is really completely controlled by our government at this point. So Medicare reimbursement, we said, it's about a wash. It ends up being 50, you know, just like break even for providers and it's hospitals and physicians. And Then we have Medicaid where they lose money. So anybody who says Medicare for all, I mean the Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warrens, whatever, Medicare for all is a solution, blah, blah, it's not. In fact, it's either they're completely ignorant of how the system works or they're lying, neither one of which is the right answer, right? So if you had Medicare for all, not a single healthcare facility could stay afloat. let alone make any money to pay their employees. I mean, it barely covers costs. And Medicaid, they lose money. So overall, they're losing money on these government programs to practice. So when the private insurance has to step in, and when we contract with private insurance, because I've been in these contract negotiations, and they'll say, well, for an MRI of the knee or something, we'll pay 1.4 times what Medicare will pay. So they always have to pay more than what Medicare would have to pay as a private third-party payer like Blue Cross Blue Shield or Cigna or something. They always have to pay more to the provider in order for the provider to just stay in business and keep the doors open. Wow. Right. So it's kind of like, no, you have to have our system, the way it's set up, and it needs to change drastically. It's completely broken. But the way it's set up, anybody who has private insurance is automatically subsidizing all the government programs. So that's, I mean, you'd want to talk about what's fair and what's not fair. No, it's not really fair. So, but that's the way the system is set up. So every single service that's provided has to have a negotiation about how much more than what Medicare reimburses the provider will get. And so the prices are different all over the place. It's like buying an airplane ticket. You know, there's not just a single price that everybody is paying for an MRI. So it's important for people to understand how much Medicare controls that process as well. So, you know, the third-party peers are absolutely necessary partners. in our current system now i have lots of ideas for healthcare reform where that doesn't need to be the case but we'll just keep going from there now when whenever a provider accepts money from medicaid or medicare which is like virtually every provider sees some medicare and medicaid patients so every provider is now obligated according to the federal government's regulations that are act like the rule of law they are obligated to abide by whatever regulations and rules and restrictions the government places on them like how you do how you do your reports like with covid every single facility that took any medicaid or medicare money from the government for any patients had to comply with wearing masks DISTANCING IN THEIR FACILITY, TAKING THE TEMPERATURE WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR, THEY HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TEMPERATURE, THEY HAVE TO WRITE IT DOWN. YOU HAVE TO BE VACCINATED. ALL OF THIS STUFF, ALL OF THESE RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS WERE PUT IF YOU TOOK A SINGLE DOLLAR OF GOVERNMENT MONEY, WHICH MEANT EVERYBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO COMPLY WITH THIS STUFF. which made it really heinous when a physician, now if a physician had their own office and they only took private health care or the direct primary care offices that don't work with government health care, they could do what they wanted, and they did. So that's the last bastion of freedom at this point in health care decision-making by physicians.
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Okay, so they just instituted all those protocols. They instituted all those protocols and made them follow it all.
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Right, right. Just because Anthony Fauci, and let's face it, with corporate healthcare, because the corporations now owned all these practices or big, huge physician practices owned the physicians. they could say, yeah, whatever Anthony Fauci says, that's what we're going to do. We're not going to buck the system. If they bucked the system, it would have fallen apart, but they didn't. All it took was these big corporate healthcare giants passing down a mandate that came direct from Anthony Fauci, and nobody could even resist it without losing your credentials. And a lot of doctors lost their credentials, had their license threatened. I mean, that's, you know, you're talking about I graduated from the 29th grade, 29 years of education. Down the tubes just because somebody points a finger and says, you're refusing to wear a mask at work.
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Or you're refusing to be vaccinated. And it happens. And absolutely threatening their livelihood in that manner. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So, yeah, the heavy hand of government control of health care. And when government controls health care, they control the people. And doctors were encouraged to punish patients or not see patients or something or treat patients who weren't vaccinated, didn't have the COVID vaccine. They were allowed to and free to and encouraged to punish them, like refuse to do a kidney transplant, right? Because they didn't have a vaccine. I remember that. Evil people, right? I remember that. Yeah, that was in Colorado. So, yeah, that's the spider web that has been woven over decades since the 1960s. And it just keeps getting worse and worse. Now, also, you think about it, all the medical research, man, look at it with a really critical eye. Because think about who's paying for that medical research. Government programs. Anthony Fauci is in charge of a lot of grant money going out. A lot of people that are kind of being exposed now for corruption and all this, they're going to We're going to find out that a lot of the medical research that was done, the money was given to achieve a certain goal, not necessarily to find truth, but to find a truth that they wanted found. So pharmaceutical companies, medical device companies, all of them do it. They pay researchers and academicians who have to have that grant money in order to keep their positions, publish or perish, right? Right. That grant money, they'll choose who they're going to pick, and they're not going to pick somebody who is interested in doing research that may prove that their pharmaceutical drug is dangerous. Right. or their vaccine is dangerous or that some medical device didn't work the way it was or it wasn't efficacious. They're going to pick and they're going to decide how they want the research conducted in order to get the results that they want. And that includes the government grants for research. So keep that in mind. This is not the pure system that we have been led to believe that it is. And starting in medical school, I bought into all of it. All this vitamins and health supplements and natural treatments, oh, that's garbage. You must abide by pharmaceuticals because that's what we were taught. And I bought into that. And now I look back.
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And that's how they made money.
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I'm like, wow. Yeah. And that's how they made money. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. And you had to have grant money. You had to have research grant money in order to supplement your income as an academician and to keep you relevant so you could keep your job. You had to be published. So everybody was playing this game. Now, is there anything else you need we should talk about with this? Or do you have any questions?
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well i it's just amazing i'm sitting here listening in amazement as as you spell it out and i mean i guess we all maybe thought that was working that way but i i witnessed that takeover where even my doctor had his own practice and then it mutated to them falling under this big umbrella under covid and i thought it was just a few practices i had no idea that it went from 90% private practice to 90% being sucked under the bigger medical organizations. Right, right.
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And I think a lot of people didn't notice that. But a lot of people, you talk to almost anybody, it's like, yeah, my doctor's practice changed. I didn't understand what it was, but all of a sudden it was somewhere else or it went away or he retired or something like that. And it's like, yeah, this is what's happening, folks. This is what they've done to us. We have fewer choices. So, you know, now another thing when we talk about money in health care, how much time do we have left, by the way? We've got a couple minutes before break. Go ahead. Okay. So we talk about big corporations, money, and campaign financing, lobbying. I mean, if you – I think we've shown that government has created – the monster that is the dysfunctional monster of health care as it stands in our country today. So if government created it, what will be the incentives for them to dismantle it or completely recreate it? Like hit a reset button on this thing. And if you're bringing them the money. Right. Right. So if big pharma, like the biggest campaign donors in health care are private insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, these massive corporate health care companies like HCA here, we have Trinity and Banner Health that are these monstrous multi-state companies. conglomerates of corporate health care, the hospital associations and the trial lawyers associations. Those are the big campaign finance donors and the lobbyists.
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So we will pick up with that on the other side of the break then, Dr. Vacchio. And I just want to remind people that the show comes to us because of great sponsors like Bolson Law.
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And welcome back. I'm Yvonne Pius and I'm pleased to host the show. Kim is traveling. And Kim's website is KimMonson.com. And that's M-O-N-S-O-N. And you can sign up for Kim's weekly email newsletter so you can get first look at all her upcoming guests as well as the most recent essays. Her email is Kim at KimMonson.com. And we have Leanne Thompson on the line. Hi, Leanne.
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Hi, Yvonne. Thank you for letting me be on the line to make a brief announcement. The Jefferson County Republican women are holding a grassroots activism workshop on taking back our communities and making a real impact with our keynote speaker, Kathleen Chandler, from the Independence Institute. You'll learn how to find, apply, and be appointed to a local board and commission. And the event will be tomorrow, Saturday, March 8th, from 9.30 to 10. We have a mix and mingle time with brunch items to share. And then 10 to 11 is the presentation. It will be held at the Jefferson County Republican Headquarters, which is by Colorado Mills, 13952 Denver West Parkway, Suite 450 in Lakewood. And the event's open to anyone, including men, from any county, and it's free to attend. And if you need more information, you could go to our website, jcrw.club.
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Well, thank you, Leanne. That is so important. We really need to get the right people on all of our boards and commissions because sometimes leadership in our states and communities begins with us.
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That's really true. And in this case, you know, it's like you can't run for office a lot or you can't, you know, be elected as a representative. This way you can be a millennial, a retiree, and you could take and be participating in our local government. There's over 4,000 boards and commissions that we could apply to, things like historical society, beer, water, anything you're interested in, there's a board for it. And they usually will meet like only one or two times a month. Sometimes you get paid. There's usually refreshments. And yeah, it's really exciting to be involved at the board and commission.
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Oh, that's great. And I believe it's Kathleen Chandler, right, that's doing the training, is she?
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That's right. Kathleen Chandler, and she's from the Independence Institute, and she's also a leadership program of the Rockies member, and she does an excellent job. She does a number of programs on different things. This one is, you know, focusing on our grassroots activism and getting involved with our local government.
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Well, that's excellent. And I have seen her before, and she is fantastic. So please, I hope everybody that's even remotely interested in finding out how to be on a border commission will show up and learn something about how we can do this. So thank you for making that announcement, Leanne.
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And now we will continue our conversation with Dr. Jill Vacchio. All right. You're back. Thank you. I am. Where did we leave off, please?
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Well, we were just getting started talking about the difficulty we're going to have with getting rid of government control over our entire health care system when we have politicians whose campaigns are financed by government. like big pharma, big insurance companies, corporate health care, hospital associations, trial lawyers. It's going to be really hard to get government legislators to fix a problem that they created to begin with over time because of these influences. And the biggest lobbying groups are the same people. Most of the legislation is written not by the legislators. It's written by these lobbying groups. So that's a whole other can of worms that we could talk about at another time. But when you have all of the money flowing in, and McCain-Feingold, with the creation of these super PACs, I mean, that really accelerated the amount of money pouring into congressional and state and such campaigns. So that's going to be, I think that's going to be the biggest hurdle is how do we handle that so that we can get legislators to do the right thing and really try to fix healthcare. These deep-pocketed, big corporate beasts are essentially creating the healthcare industry decision-making rather than the people or the states, and it used to be the states, but Obamacare killed that. Obamacare, by making it a federal law and openly violating the Constitution, then it took all of the control of healthcare decision-making to the worst possible, the highest possible level rather than the potentially lowest possible level of being at the state's individually, where it used to be where it was for decades. So that was a huge change with Obamacare, putting it at the federal level where there can be all of this outside influence that is not, in my opinion, is rarely, if ever, in the best interest of the patient or the person paying for the insurance policies. Right, right. How much time do we have?
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What a mess to get into.
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You know me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we've got like a couple minutes left. So, yes, how would you like to wrap this up, Dr. Vecchio?
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Well, let's end on a note because a lot of people are going to go, well, what would you do? What would you do? What would you do? Well, I'll tell you what I would do. I can't go through. I mean, I've gone through it with Kim before, and you can look back on prior podcasts and stuff, and we'll keep going through it again and again. But the biggest thing is get government out of health care. It's not their job. It's a violation of the Constitution. It's a violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. It doesn't. Health care is not among the enumerated powers granted to the federal government. Obamacare was an overt violation of that. The Supreme Court shows not to address that part of some of the lawsuits. So we still don't have an answer to it. If you want to revive health care, think about automobile insurance. OK, just plant that in your head. Think about auto insurance. You don't pay for getting new tires or having your oil changed or your windshield replaced, maybe covered a little bit. You may pay a little bit into having your windshield replaced, especially in Colorado. But you're paying for all of the basic maintenance on your vehicle. You're paying for little hiccup things that go wrong. If you're in a car accident, some major collision happens. Then your insurance kicks in. It kicks in for catastrophic things. And we can do that with health insurance. People are paying $30,000 a year for health insurance that they're not even using because the deductibles are so high. We've talked about that. What if you had that $30,000 and you were just paying maybe, I don't know, what would it be? Maybe some of the catastrophic policies are maybe $50 or $100 a month. Right. You're talking about, you know, so you could have $28,000 to pay for health care.
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Right. And that's an excellent analogy. Yeah, that's an excellent analogy, Dr. Vacchio. I think if we just thought of it as we don't really need it for the everyday stuff. We just need it for the catastrophic stuff. I think that would be a great way to save money. So with that, thank you so much for all of the information you provided to us today. And we hope to have you back really soon. But, wow, that was a whirlwind of information for us to digest. Thanks again. And I would. OK, thank you. And I would like to mention that the quote for the end of the show comes from the Medal of Honor recipient, Patrick H. Brady, U.S. Army. And it says mediocrity and failure result from choice, not chance. Success is born of courage alone. And God has made this marvelous gift infinitely available to all who ask for it. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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I hate it when there's a story about somebody else's misery and I enjoy it. I feel so guilty when I saw this headline. Broke Hunter Biden asks judge to throw out the laptop lawsuit because he's millions in debt and he lost his home in the L.A. wildfires. I shouldn't take any satisfaction from that. But I admit, I do. Guy got a preemptive pardon from his dad after Joe Biden shamelessly promised he would never do so. Hunter Biden, I believe, is a broken, troubled man with all kinds of nefarious intentions. He asked a federal judge yesterday to drop the laptop hacking lawsuit that he slapped against a former Trump White House aide because he's millions of dollars in debt. He said his dwindling sales from his artwork and memoir has him in significant debt, keeping him from litigating this case against Garrett Ziegler. Now, you understand, he sued him. So he's suing the guy, and now he wants the judge to throw it out because he's broke and he can't afford the lawsuit. I mean, why am I enjoying this so much? It's like seeing the meme of Nancy Pelosi from the president's speech the other night. I told you about the picture on the left which showed her, the video of her ripping up Trump's State of the Union speech. One of the most tawdry, classless, grotesque acts I've ever seen in major political life. Ever. Ever. Is there anything worse, really? Well, they got pretty bad this week, didn't they? With their stupid paddles and their booing and their hissing, carrying on, the goofy guy with the cane waving that around. But the meme showed how it started. And how it's going. I love those how it started, how it's going memes, don't you? And how it started was Nancy on the left ripping up Trump's State of the Union speech. How it's going? Did you see her in her seat at the speech Tuesday night? leaning on a cane. I swear, it looked like she was sipping whiskey out of the cane. I don't know if she was drinking something out of it or if she was chewing on it. She's all hunched over. And I know she suffered a broken hip. She fell down the steps a couple months ago. And at her age, that's not good. And I take a lot of... satisfaction from that. And that's wrong. I know it's wrong. I know it's sinful to enjoy somebody else's misery. Look, it could be any one of us. We've all been through rough times. There are highs and lows in everybody's life. But watching Hunter Biden and Nancy Pelosi, two of the most odious figures of our lifetime, crash and burn this way, I just feel a sense of satisfaction. Am I wrong? 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Welcome aboard. We've got a lot to cover. We're going to check in with our buddy Joey Hudson. I'm going to try something today. Because I'm in a good mood. We hit a benchmark in our Food for the Poor campaign. And I'm excited about this. But I've got big news with Joey Hudson. Because it's no secret that Chris DeGaulle, who has heard on a number of stations around the country in the Salem family before me, he drew on his Philadelphia base to take him over his food for the poor goal of $40,000 today, which is great. Now, he's kicking my butt. And it dawned on me, I'm good for Chris, and he's a great guy, and I'm so happy for him and proud of him. The Food for the Poor campaign is something we do to feed the starving. It's a beautiful Christian ministry that means so much to all of us. It means a lot to me personally. They built a house for me, for my family, I should say, in honor of my late wife, Denise. There's a Denise Gallagher house in Jamaica that a family is proudly living in right now that Food for the Poor donated in my wife's memory. That's the kind of relationship I have with Food for the Poor. I've always been the donor king at Salem. everybody's just having a fun time pointing out that Chris is ahead of me pretty considerably. He went over his goal today of $40,000. He's at like $43,000. We're around $31,000. And I was looking through the list of donors because I'm a little bit of a jerk that way. I do like competing, although I'm not really mean about it. Hugh Hewitt is typically mean about it. He spikes the football, and he likes to do his Ohio State analogies and everything. And Chris is such a good guy, you can't get annoyed. I'm just thrilled for him. But this audience has always led the pack. It's not about me. It's about you. this family of listeners and viewers to this show. And as I was looking through Chris DeGaulle's donor list for the Food for the Poor campaign, he drew on a whole bunch of Philadelphia donations because Chris has been a local host in Philadelphia for years. And he's got a loyal following. Because he's brand new nationally. Well, I got to thinking about this today. What's really my home base? You know, I live in Florida, spend a lot of time in Florida, spend a little bit of time in New York. But my real home is the upstate of South Carolina. Ratings came out yesterday for News Talk 98.9 WORD. My goodness, Tara and Bill and Charlie, and yes, yours truly, huge ratings today. Our show is number one in its time slot in the whole market. I'm so proud of that. I love that place. And Joey Hudson, my dearest friend in the world, he's going to join us at the bottom of the hour. We're going to talk about a couple of – obviously, we're going to talk about some breaking news. We're going to talk about, you know, the headlines that are being made and what to make of it all. But I also want to – if Chris can draw on his Philadelphia – base, I'll bet Mike Gallagher and Joey Hudson can draw on our upstate South Carolina base. So Joey's going to join us at the bottom of the hour. And of course, we love Joey. He's going to be filling in for me Monday because I'm going to be off on jury duty. Oh, brother. I can't believe it. I got that dreaded notice in the mail. And people get real annoyed at me. Oh, you should do your duty. I don't want to miss the show for jury duty. Some dispute about somebody's tree that's hanging over somebody else's yard or somebody suing somebody for an auto accident. I don't want to be on that jury. With my luck, I'll get stuck on like an OJ jury that takes 19 months. I'll have some quadruple murder case. I just cannot believe I got roped. I didn't get roped into it. I mean, I do have to do my duty, and I got to show up Monday, so Joey will be filling in while I'm at jury duty. And, of course, Joey is a familiar face and voice to you nationally and a big, big part of the upstate South Carolina community as well, where he is a native son. Pride and joy of the upstate. Joey will join us in a few minutes. Here's Rick in Pennsylvania. A little bit about, I mean, Rick, when Nancy Pelosi ripped up the State of the Union speech, I remember almost getting physically sick to my stomach. I was so angry. I flew into a rage. Now I see her all hunched over, leaning on her cane, chomping on her dentures, looking broken. Am I wrong to take some satisfaction out of that image, Rick?
SPEAKER 08 :
You're definitely not wrong, and I agree, and you shouldn't feel bad one bit. I mean, to take pleasure and enjoyment of watching Xi and Hunter Biden, and I can think of four or five other people that I'd love to see the same demise. I know. But, I mean, why, you know, do they not investigate these people? Just like the guy with the cane. I mean, he has to have... something against our country or he's doing something that's just not, you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, Rick, you just nailed it. They seem to hate our country, don't they?
SPEAKER 08 :
They hate our country.
SPEAKER 11 :
They hate Americans. They hate you and me. They have to deal with the fact that the vast majority of Americans are totally on board with what Trump is doing. And they hate it. And that means they hate us. They do. You're right. Well, I feel bad about it. I appreciate your support and your kind words, but I feel awful. I don't like seeing Nancy Pelosi look like this broken, wretched, you know, shell of a woman. I don't like Hunter Biden. you know, crying about being broke and he lost his home in the wildfires. I mean, you know, he's loved by people. She's loved by people. She's a wife and a mother and a grandmother. But it's hard not to be hateful when you know how much they've directed their hatefulness towards the United States. Is it wrong to say they appear to hate America and hate you and me? Donald Trump Jr. said that on the plane. I want to play the clip for you and see what you think of what he said about their shameful behavior at the president's speech the other night. Welcome in. It's a Thursday. We've got a lot to do here in the Relief Factor studios. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. 17 past the hour. 800-655-6453. Look, maybe Hunter Biden can, if he's so broke, he can start a GoFundMe campaign. I mean, it worked for Luigi. There's a lot of kooks and crackpots out there that seem to want to support, you know, an alleged monster, a cold-blooded cowardly killer like Luigi Mangione. That guy's raised hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, maybe Hunter can go that route, huh? 800-655-6453. Call or text. Join us here on the Mike Gallagher Show. I just got the daily report for our Food for the Poor campaign. Look, if the new kid on the block, Chris DeGaulle, beats us in the campaign, I'm in big trouble. I'm giving up. You can't let that happen. If you like what we do... Because we're all doing this together, this Food for the Poor campaign. I'm going to give you the phone number that I didn't give you a moment ago. I just need 400 people to pop in 100 bucks. Let's get 100 people today to donate $100. Food for the Poor. This is what we do. We do this a few times a year. And here's the phone number that I left out before. If you want to make a phone call, have your credit card standing by and call Food for the Poor. 844-860-HOPE. That's 844-860-4673. Or you can go to mikeonline.com, click on that banner at the top of the page, or just text the keyword food to 800-655-MIKE, and we'll send you back the link. And thank you, thank you, thank you for supporting our Food for the Poor campaign. Come on, let's get there. Come on, 400 people. Wouldn't it be amazing? How astounding would it be if I could touch the hearts of 400 people, maybe even you, Ed, in Naples? Instead of being grumpy at me, feed starving children. Clothe the naked. Feed the hungry. Partner with the Christian ministry. All I need is 400 people to donate 100 bucks, and we're there. We've got our goal. Maybe we could do it today. Go to mikeonline.com, click on the banner, or call 844-860-HOPE. call 844-860-4673. However you reach out, I do hope you'll join me as folks just like you all over America step up to help our friends at the Christian nonprofit international relief organization, Food for the Poor. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Mike Gallagher. Donald Trump Jr. said something about his dad's speech this week that really resonated with me. And I've been thinking a lot about this narrative that Democrats really do hate the American people. And a lot of people hear that and they roll their eyes and they think, oh, that's just rhetoric. That's hyperbole. Stop being so melodramatic. But listen to what Don Jr. said about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Guys. Amazing State of the Union on Trump Force One heading back to Florida. Just so we're clear, so you understand just how deranged the Democrats are, though, they couldn't stand up for a 13-year-old kid with cancer who has made an honorary agent of the Secret Service. Think about that for a second. Democrats couldn't stand up when tonight in breaking news, they announced that they captured the mastermind of the Abbey Gate terror that took the lives of 13 US Marines in a disastrous Afghan withdrawal. Perhaps one of the most embarrassing moments in American history. They couldn't stand for those things, let alone about a thousand other things that make total sense and benefit Americans. That's where the Democrat Party is today. They hate you. They hate our country. And they're imbeciles. Remember that in midterms, guys. Don't forget the energy. Don't lose any of that. Vote them out.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I truly believe and hope that we continue this energy through the midterms. Who knows if that's sustainable, because right now we're flying pretty high. Republicans are hitting all the right notes. You saw the poll numbers after Trump's speech, 76 percent of speech watchers. In the CBS poll, approved of Trump's speech, 76%. You know that means there's a lot of Democrats that like what he said. His poll numbers right now are through the roof for the speech. And the poll numbers for the Democrats and all their shenanigans with their stupid paddles and their signs and their booing and their hissing and their Al Green, they carry on as if they hate Americans. They carry on as if they hate this country. Do they? Do they? Let me ask Crystal in Atlanta. Crystal, do these Democrats hate you and me?
SPEAKER 13 :
Hold on a second. Crystal. Oh, hey.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey. You are on the way. We got you out of a... What were you doing there? Were you ordering some food or something?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I was given some bags to a Goodwill place.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, good for you. You're doing the Lord's work. Look at that. Making donations to Goodwill. I love it. All right. Well, we've got 60 seconds. Do they hate Americans?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. For a long time, I couldn't figure out why Democrats hated Americans. But then after the Doge came out and they showed us how much money has been stolen from the Treasury Department. Right. I mean, trillions of dollars. And we have no concept except, you know, with the Doge thing, it shows you a little line how much a trillion dollars is. It's incredible. But anyway, it finally came to me, especially when they also said that USAID had given, I might have the figure wrong, $150, $250 billion to Soros. And I thought he was always using his own money. No, he's not using his own money. He's using our money.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't really know if it matters that Al Green just got censured in the House of Representatives. I mean, what happens with a censure? Nothing. They make a statement, oh, bad, bad congressman, bad congressman. The Democrats tried to delay the formal proceedings today in the well of the House by standing there like a bunch of dummies singing. singing spirituals. There were 10 Democrats, though, who voted to censure Greene. You might want to know who they are. Probably, you know, not a bad idea. Congressman Ami Barra from California, Ed Case from Hawaii, Jim Costa from California, Laura Gillen from New York, Jim Himes from Connecticut, Chrissy Houlihan from Pennsylvania, Marcy Kaptour. Remember her? We played her clip this week. Looks like she got her comeuppance when she got a lot of flack. for all the nonsense that she was spouting from a press conference earlier in the week. But she voted to censure Al Green, Jared Moskowitz from Florida, Marie Glusenkamp-Perez from Washington, and Tom Swozy from New York. Am I saying that right? I always wondered. Swozy. Yeah, Tom Swozy, Democrat from New York. Those are the 10 Democrats who went along with the Republicans. Did all the Republicans vote to censor, or did Thomas Massey vote not to censor? You know, you can always count on him to go rogue. But I don't know that it matters. I mean, look, their shocking behavior this week speaks volumes. This is who they are. And... The bottom line is they're stubborn. They're defiant. Here's Al Green himself. This is the guy. And I love the cane. Always love when he waves the cane around like Thor's hammer. You know, he's like Luke Skywalker with his lightsaber. Only his is this gold-plated cane. Got to be gold, you know. You don't want to have a silver-plated cane. You got to have a gold handle on that. I've never seen him lean on the cane. I don't even think he uses the cane to help him walk. He just waves it around. And he very clearly made it very obvious he would do it all over again.
SPEAKER 02 :
But I will tell you, I appreciate you. No anger. The officers who escorted me out, they were kind to me. I don't blame the speaker for anything. Friends, I would do it again. I have to be candid with you. I'm not trying to in some way insult you. This is a matter of principle. This is a matter of conscience.
SPEAKER 11 :
You think it's principled to interrupt the president of the United States who is giving an address to the joint session of Congress? You think standing there screeching, you have no mandate, is principled? Here's a Democrat from Massachusetts melting down over Republicans... proceeding with censure efforts against Al Green.
SPEAKER 10 :
They sprint to the floor to censure Al Green because he hurt Trump's feelings. It is pathetic, Mr. Speaker. Now look, we know what this is all about. Republicans don't work for America. They don't work for you. They don't work for veterans. They don't work for the teachers or the nurses or the firefighters or the factory workers or the waitresses or the farmers. They work for Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
So the Democrats are going to Democrat. They're going to melt down. They're going to sing We Shall Overcome. They're going to pretend that somehow Al Green is a victim of some sort. But I think we ought to focus on policy. I think we ought to focus on policies that the American people are rejecting. The censuring of Al Green means absolutely, virtually nothing. You heard him say, I'd do it all over again. So I guess every time the President of the United States is going to speak before the American people and Congress for the next four years, Al Green's going to make a fool out of himself. I mean, at one point, at some point, you've got to say, should you arrest somebody? Should you impeach them? Al Green is the guy who is once again for the 97th time preparing articles of impeachment against Donald Trump. Shouldn't Green be impeached? That kind of stuff matters. Remove the guy from office. Hit him where it hurts. Censuring doesn't mean anything. And let's talk a little bit about policy. Let's start with the sanctuary city policies that the Democrats favor. To my dying day, I'll remember the mayor of Philadelphia doing his happy dance when a judge ruled in favor of Philadelphia becoming a sanctuary city. Can you imagine celebrating that? Dancing? What's his name? Jim, is it Keene? And he was out there. Do we have the happy dance of that Philadelphia mayor? I will never forget this. I don't know why that image sticks in my brain. I mean, it seems to me that if you're a sanctuary city, if you say to illegals, come here, we won't prosecute you. Come here. You can take our health care services for free. We'll give you free health care. We'll give you free education. We'll give you free cell phones. We'll give you food stamps. Come here. And you want to celebrate that? I would think a normal response would be, well, look, we have an obligation to our neighbors to the south. We have an obligation to trend the Aragua and the gang members to give them a safe place to, you know, rape and pillage and maim. We want to make them happy, but we've got to do it with a heavy heart. We've got to do it with passion. We've got to do it because we care. But you wouldn't celebrate it, would you? If you're watching right now on Salem News Channel, again, this is the mayor of Philadelphia. It was the sanctuary city crap. was being litigated in the courts, and some goofy leftist progressive judge came along and allowed Philadelphia to be a sanctuary city, and when the mayor found out, this is what he did. We are a sanctuary city, yeah! I can't believe, I mean, he was dancing. We are a sanctuary city, and he gives a high five. And to see an old man like that bounce on his toes and dance like that, I mean, super awkward, super cringy. But these mayors of these blue cities somehow think it's virtuous to be a sanctuary city. It's not a necessity. It's not just out of a labor. It's not a labor of love. It's something they crave. Listen to the Boston mayor yesterday on Capitol Hill, Michelle Wu.
SPEAKER 01 :
You belong here. This is your home. This is our city. We are the safest major city in the nation because we are safe for everyone.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, really? Really? That's going to be news to Lake and Riley's family. That's going to be news to any of the families who have lost a loved one to an illegal benefiting from sanctuary city policies. These guys are... crazily out of touch with the American people. Here's Brandon Johnson. Now, this kook, this guy, I never thought anybody could make Lori Lightfoot look like Maggie Thatcher. But this guy, wow, what a piece of work Brandon Johnson is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Our efforts to improve public safety by building trust with and investing in our communities are working. Violent crime is down in Chicago. The city ended 2024 with its lowest homicide rate in five years. The city is also safer because of our welcoming city ordinance. That law makes sure that the city's police resources are focused on our local priorities.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, there's a part of me that wants them to keep doing this. Keep going. You keep doing this because you'll never win another election. I got to believe there's plenty of Democrats who are sitting around saying, no, no, no, that's a bridge too far. Where do you hear Jim Jordan? I'm going to give you, if you're frustrated at Michelle Wu and Brandon Johnson, wait till you hear Congressman Jim Jordan with the mayor of Denver. You're not going to want to miss it. Welcome aboard. It's Thursday. We've got a lot of things to celebrate. We're in the middle of our Food for the Poor campaign, and we're getting closer and closer to hitting our goal of $40,000 to feed starving children all over the world. I'll give you an update on that. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow. Make it a MyPillow Thursday. And make it a point to call us at 800-655-MIKE. Let's talk about these sanctuary city policies and get ready for something that will be music to your ears. Jim Jordan taking on the sanctuary city of Denver's mayor. That and more coming up here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Individual that was released from the county jail on Friday in the city and county of Denver. That's all you know about him?
SPEAKER 04 :
I do know that he was facing charges that the... Venezuelan gang member arrested by Border Patrol on September 20th, 2023, released into the country by the Biden administration. A few months later, he's arrested in your city, charged with aggravated assault. On March 11th, 2024, he's charged with motor vehicle theft. stole a car, and then on March 20th, 2024, Mr. Gonzalez is charged with felony menacing. Six days after that last charge, I send you a detainer, which includes an administrative warrant. Basically, it says if you're going to release this bad guy, this gang member who allegedly stole a car, menaced people, and assaulted people, give us a 48-hour heads up. Is that right? Did that refresh your memory?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do know about the detainer request. I do know that we provided a notification of release.
SPEAKER 04 :
What kind of notice did you give ICE when you released him?
SPEAKER 05 :
We gave him notification. I'm not sure how long in advance it was.
SPEAKER 04 :
I do know that there was one hour notice, and you released him five days ago, right? Why not give them more heads up? Actually, let's put the slide up. Let's see what it says here. Let's put the slide up. This is what the Denver Sheriff's Department, it's kind of hard to see, so I'll read it. It says, Denver Sheriff's Department ICE notification being released to the streets. ICE simply said, just release him to us. You release him to the streets. Why not release him to ICE?
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. What we've done, and we do this regularly, we've done 1,226 of these, is we notify us.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm asking about one. I'm not asking about the 1,200. I'm asking about Mr. Abraham Gonzalez, who's a gang member from Venezuela, stole a car, assaulted someone. You had him in your custody for how long? I know that we released him. 345 days you had him in custody. And I said, hey, can you give us 48 hours heads up? I don't know. You gave him one hour notice.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mr. Congressman, we notified them of release. There were six ICE agents present when he was released, so they had enough time to respond and to be present. Respond where? To the jail where we released him from. So we released him to, we notified them of the release time. When we notified them of release, they come to the jail facility to pick them up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why didn't you say, that's not what you said. You said you released him to the streets.
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you release him to the streets or release him to ICE? What we do, sir, is we release him from our county jail and we coordinate with ICE on that release time and release date so that ICE can come and pick them up from that location. Pick them up where? In the parking lot? Yes, sir. They're on the facility property. Guess what happened in the parking lot? I know, sir. I've reviewed the video. So I looked at it. I've talked to the sheriff last night. One of the ICE officers got assaulted, didn't he? I reviewed the video, sir. They had to tase the guy, didn't they? Would you like my answer, sir? No, I'd like the answer. Did they tase him? I know that there were six officers that had multiple tasers. I saw the video. If you keep him in the facility and they come in the facility and get him, does it take six officers? Probably takes two, doesn't it? So we've been doing these, as I mentioned, 1,224 times, 1,226 times. This is the first time I've been made aware of there's been an incident like this. So I reached out to ICE after I saw the video. I've coordinated with their team and offered to sit down and see if there are procedures we can change.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a simple question. Make sure this works smoothly. It's a simple question. You can release him in the parking lot, give ICE one hour notice, and they've got to send six officers to arrest this guy. Or you can say, hey, what? Here's what we're going to do. We're going to hold him. You come in and bring two officers in, and you turn him over there. Why not do it that way? We have a city ordinance.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know why you don't do it that way? We have a city ordinance that governs. Because you're a sanctuary city. This is the whole point. No, sir, I disagree with you. Because I'll tell you why. If you talk about sanctuary as a definition of shielding people from law enforcement, we do not do that. What we do do is provide services. In this context, what we did is we coordinated the release.
SPEAKER 04 :
An officer got assaulted because of your policy, which says we're going to release him to, in your words, not mine, to the streets. They have to arrest him in the parking lot. They bring six officers. When they could have had one or two just come in your facility in the jail and take the guy there. But you won't do it that way. I've seen the video. I've reached out to ICE.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've offered to sit down and coordinate on strategies. If we need to make adjustments to what we do on releases, we'll do that. This is the first time in the 1,226 releases I've heard an answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
I read your written testimony last night. I read your written testimony last night. Four and a half pages. And you used the words safe, safer, or safety 13 times. Talking about my job is to protect this business, safety of the people in Denver. We're prioritizing making sure everyone in our community is safe. That's a lie. Because it was not safer for the ICE agents who are part of your community. No way was it safer. The safest thing to do is to say, ICE, we got him in custody. Come here. We're releasing. We held him 345 days. We can't hold him a second longer. We can't wait for you to come inside the building. We got to let him go. So you have to arrest him in the parking lot. That is how stupid sanctuary policies are and what they mean to the community that you put at risk and to the ICE officers, the ICE officer who was assaulted. And they had to use a taser on him. It's not good. Mr. Chairman.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's the way it's done. Congressman Jim Jordan with a sanctuary city mayor of Denver.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
We have a Supremes birthday, Mike. Was four-year-old Mike grooving to some Supremes 1964? I like him now. No? Yeah, but not back in the day. It is not Diana Ross. It is not Florence Ballard. It is Mary Wilson's birthday. She would have been 81, passed away back in 21. You know, everybody, 1964, you think about the Beatles. But here in America, just 1964, this was their very, very first hit. And then after this, this is where did our love go. Then you had Baby Love. Come see about me. Stop in the name of love. Back in my arms again. All in 1964. Wow. That's a library. That's a library. That's what you could call a series of successes, Mike. An amazing series of successes. An amazing parade of good things happening to them. Does this parallel to anything that might be happening in our lives, in our politics, in our country?
SPEAKER 11 :
I see what you did there. I got it. I see where you're going with this. You know, I am really glad to see the real, real epic pushback, not only on the Democrats who wouldn't stand for the little cancer survivor, but the media folks. Rachel Maddow. calling the awarding of the Secret Service honorary membership to Little DJ disgusting. Yeah. Nicole Wallace saying, I hope the little boy doesn't wind up committing suicide someday as a cop. Because of Trump supporters. You know, an apology would go such a long way. Would it? Well, it would.
SPEAKER 12 :
But that implies self-awareness. That implies a sense of embarrassment. That implies a conscience. I know. All of which is destroyed in the hearts of the twisted hearts and minds of these people. They have to be so dark.
SPEAKER 11 :
They have to be so... I mean, look, I keep thinking about what aboutism. If our side did that to them, we ought to call our side out, too. I mean, this is a little boy who's lived with cancer for six years of his life. He already has been bullied for wearing the little cop uniform because they've made him an honorary police officer. His father told the New York Post of Rachel Maddow, she needs to shut her mouth if she has nothing nice to say. This lady didn't even serve time in the military, he continued. I was on the USS Kitty Hawk. She doesn't need to put her bad energy on us. I don't know. I mean, I think – I kept thinking they ought to just – the right thing to do would be to apologize at this point, apologize.
SPEAKER 12 :
Of course it would. I mean, well, the right. You know, guess what? The as is true with many apologies. The really right. There's no time machine available for this. But the really right thing to do is to not do such wretched in the first place, not say such horrible things. And, you know, it's like a pendulum. And I was talking in the first segment that. Not so many years ago, conservatives would say and do conservative things. The left and its media machine would rise up to smear it, and it would kind of work. We'd kind of have us on the ropes. We'd kind of be like, oh, wow, what do we do? It's a total new day. They're crazy attacks, as horrible and perverse as they are. The good news is they don't land. They are punches that don't land. They are met with instant derision, even from some inside Democrat land. Right. And so that leads me thinking, let me ask you the question I've kind of broadly put out there in the universe. Have we ever, I don't want to say had it so good, although it's tempting to phrase it that way, but in terms of the strength of the conservative message, the strength of a Republican president and the intellectual vacuousness and the flat out insanity of the left, we've never been better positioned. And I just, I'm enjoying it, but I also want to direct its energy toward really doing what we can in this amazing moment to make the most of it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we have to sustain it. And I think you're completely correct that to me the real glaring difference between Trump 2.0 and the first round is the Democrats were more organized and were more focused on trying to thwart his agenda. You know, at least they had – now, we look back at it, it was all nefarious, the Russian collusion hoax. That handcuffed him for practically his entire presidency. Now we've got the courts and even the Supreme Court that can be the obstacle to getting the Trump agenda done. Did you see the video of Trump shaking hands with the Supreme Court justices during the address and the look on Amy Comey Barrett's face?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, no, no.
SPEAKER 11 :
She does. She looks at him like he is just dumb.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, are we projecting? No, I don't know.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you look at the video, you can see the look on her. I mean, I'm fascinated by the psychology of this. First of all, I'm intrigued... That the justices are even there. Because it has to be all kinds of awkward for them. Because if you remember during the speech, he called them out at one point and thanked them for some ruling that went his way. And I'm thinking, they can't like sitting there, having a president kind of prop them up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, they also really don't like having a president insult them, as Obama did, where Alito at one point went, not true, not true. Correct. He didn't go full Joe Wilson. You lie! He didn't do that. But you're right, it is weird, this supposedly apolitical, robed gathering of people there at this most political event.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I don't know what has happened to Amy Coney Barrett. There's something... And I watched a clip this morning of Megyn Kelly when I was getting the show put together and wanted to come up with some things for you for our segment. And incidentally, part of my routine used to be going to the Drudge Report. No more. What happened to Drudge, Mark?
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't think it's him anymore. I think it's his name. I think it's been farmed out to somebody because I did too. That used to be – it's funny. It's like talk show nostalgia. We kind of all went from – having big stacks of newspapers. Remember newspapers? Did you ever own an exacto knife? Where you would literally go, hence the term clippings. Because we'd have the Rush Limbaugh stack of stuff. It wasn't off his printer. It was stuff off a newspaper, at least in the early days. But then in the early Internet days, in the stone knives and bearskins era of the Internet, it was the Drudge Report, this compilation of all kinds of things, usually with kind of a conservative bent. Not anymore.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I can remember seeing the early TV images of Rush in his studio, and he always had the Drudge Report up on his computer screen. You know, I mean, I think Matt Drudge and Rush were friends. And look, let's think about it. You know Rush would be all in for the Trump agenda. You know Limbaugh would be cheering him on.
SPEAKER 12 :
I hear his smile. I feel his smile from heaven every day.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do, too. So I don't know what happened. Something broke. And the last time we talked about this, you had said that. And then I got a bunch of texts and emails saying, no, no, no. He's still running things over there. He did not divest himself of the operation.
SPEAKER 12 :
Listen, maybe he's one of those folks who liked Rush, liked Reagan. But did Trump break Drudge? Because he was referred to as Trumpski, right? Which is just a Russia, Russia, Russia smear on the Drudge report itself just a few days ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, no. Every day is anti-Trump. Look at it today. You look at the headlines today. It's anti-Trump headline after anti-Trump headline. There's nothing positive. Drudge aggregates all these articles that are negative about the Trump administration and the agenda. I don't know what happened. But anyway, so I was going through all this this morning, and I found a clip of Megyn Kelly from her podcast. And she makes a great observation. She says, what's with the so-called conservative women justices? They're always squishy. Sandra Day O'Connor was ostensibly a conservative. She often voted with the liberal side. And look, Alito is stunned at this latest ruling. The court caved to the left on U.S. aid disbursements, usurped Trump's constitutional executive authority. They're letting a district judge tell Trump that he can't rightfully suspend $1.9 billion in foreign aid payments. Well, John Roberts, who's the perennial disappointment to us. Shocker. And Amy Coney Barrett sided with the liberal justices. Alito couldn't believe it. I mean, he was furious in his dissent. He said, does a single district court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the government of the United States to pay out and probably lose forever $2 billion taxpayer dollars? Thank you. The answer to that question should be an emphatic no.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the arguments made on the other side, which I actually... It's a good thing to do. Read some stuff every once in a while. The arguments made before the court about maintaining these payments and freeing up these payments was the kind of argument that you usually get that appeal to the leftist judiciary, that the payments are good. The payments are nice. People like the payments. The payments do good things for people, none of which has anything to do with the way the constitutional borders are drawn for this court.
SPEAKER 11 :
And see, you know, there's a lot of theories about Amy Coney Barrett in particular. Here's a text message right away from Todd in Denton. She was a deep state plant. Trump got bad advice on selecting her by nefarious people in the old cabinet. Now, the reason I think there's some merit in what Todd said... You know, I've talked to Seb Gorka about this. There were some bad people in Trump 1.0.
SPEAKER 12 :
Funny you mention that because two minutes ago you were talking about Trump 2.0 and just how smoothly things are going. Actually, your quote was that there were people, most of the folks on the left, folks in the media, that there were folks who were trying to impede his agenda. Some of the folks who were trying to impede his agenda back in the first term were in the actual White House. He had saboteurs around him.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And he doesn't anymore. And the difference is an amazing thing to see.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's night and day. Just absolute night and day. My theory about her is that she was thoroughly spooked by the protesters who got very close to her house and her kids. And look, these are humans. Who wouldn't be? You're right. You've got people showing up at their house with these awful, threatening protests. And she's described as a soccer mom. She had the minivan before she became a justice of the Supreme Court. And she just does not want to tick off the angry, rabid left. And they are rabid. Did you see any of the testimony of the sanctuary city mayors yesterday?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yes, I did. Tell everyone about that, Mike.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I give you Michelle Wu. Can I play a little clip for you? By all means. This one is classic.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mayor of Boston.
SPEAKER 11 :
The Boston mayor. And you saw Jim Jordan go after the mayor of Denver, which was classic. We're going to play that whole five-minute epic rant. But the mayor of Boston. I just have a little 15-second clip. Sometimes all you have to do is play the Democrats in their own words and then sit back. We don't even have to give it a lot of analysis. Here I give you. The proud Sanctuary City Mayor, Progressive Michelle Wu of Boston, Massachusetts.
SPEAKER 01 :
You belong here. This is your home. This is our city. We are the safest major city in the nation because we are safe for everyone.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ah, that's their... Everyone. Everyone? Really? Everyone? That's their... Brandon, that goofy Brandon Johnson in Chicago tried that approach. We're safer because of illegals.
SPEAKER 12 :
Ask Lake and Riley how safe it is when you're not paying attention to immigrants.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ask the family of Jocelyn Nguyen. I mean, these people are out of their minds. And I have to tell you that the sanctuary city hill that they're dying on really confounds me.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they are dying on it because I know you'll play it and I will too. These mayors said these things. We're safe for everybody. You know, we want to – just being unresponsive as question after question after question, including from our own North Texas star, Brandon Gill. Do you believe in this? Do you believe in this? And they – answered by not answering. They were, these mayors were absolutely eaten alive by Republican questioning, which again, didn't always happen back in the past. These people would sit down and sometimes Republican questioning was a little clumsy and not real skilled and wasn't quite pointed enough. Not anymore. Didn't mean to interrupt. Just,
SPEAKER 11 :
buried. They were just buried. It was extraordinary. And finally, yesterday I had a chance to visit with our buddy Seb Gorka, who's now involved in counterterrorism efforts in the White House. He was on the tarmac and got on the plane at Dulles when they got the mastermind behind the Abbey Gate bombing who arrived in the United States. What an extraordinary moment that was. And Seb, I mean, he even joked about it. He said a few years ago, Jesse Waters called me the scariest guy on television or radio. And he is a little imposing, I have to admit. But you know what? He is absolutely ecstatic over the success. And look, it just took a few weeks into the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who wouldn't be happy? And the picture I have burned in my brain of Seb yesterday, he posted it, him with the biggest smile you could possibly have welcoming a guest to the White House. DJ Daniel.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right, DJ.
SPEAKER 12 :
Just kneeling down and putting his arm around this young man and loving on him and showing him just basic human decency, something Nicole Wallace has no concept of.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the moment of the Abbey Gate announcement that President Trump made, they couldn't even stand for that. They didn't stand for that, Mark. They had their stupid little paddles. I mean, the cringe factor is getting worse and worse. I just saw a video of like five women of Congress, including that insufferable Jasmine Crockett. Choose your fighter. And they're like dancing up and down and bopping up and down. They got nothing. Keep it up, ladies. Keep it up. You're right. This is as good as it gets right now. And I love it. I'm loving every minute of it. Happy Thursday. By the way, Quick programming note, I got jury duty Monday. Okay. I am so enraged at this. I'm walking in there.
SPEAKER 12 :
You're going to throw down the talk show card?
SPEAKER 11 :
No. I'm going to say, hang them high. I want them all executed. Exactly right. I think traffic, you run through a red light, you need to be executed. I'm going to tell them I'm a conservative talk show host, and I believe in the death penalty for any infraction against the state. I'm going to, I mean, look.
SPEAKER 12 :
But it's a Florida jury. They may name you foreman.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh. I'll be on like the OJ trial for 87 weeks. I'll see you. I can't believe it. Exactly. See you for the J.D.
SPEAKER 12 :
Vance inauguration.
SPEAKER 11 :
What happened last time you've been called for the J.D.?
SPEAKER 12 :
I've had it a couple of times. Exact same thing. I'm in there for 30 minutes.
SPEAKER 11 :
And they dismiss you, right? I'm gone. Yeah. Well, I hope they dismiss me because I want to be – I'm going to start babbling. I'm going to show up like in a hefty bag. I'll wear like a garbage bag. No. I'll put a tinfoil hat on, and I'll start babbling. I'll start babbling. He has a plan. I'll be singing show tunes. Saw Book of Mormon last night in St. Leon Broadway. It still holds up, but very blasphemous.
SPEAKER 12 :
Trey Parker, Matt Stone, love those guys.
SPEAKER 11 :
Funny stuff. All right, happy Thursday, my friend.
SPEAKER 12 :
Happy Thursday. Mike Gallagher here for you soon as we are done. 10 o'clock, 660 AM, The Answer.
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In this episode of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, we bring you the foretold thrills and oddities of daily life. From humorous misadventures in Florida to scrutinizing the polished veneer of celebrity cooking shows, we uncover truths hidden beneath absurdities. We also delve into financial strategies with a word from our sponsors on gold investment, discuss Hunter Biden's financial woes, and reflect on current events that provoke laughs and contemplation alike. So sit back, relax and enjoy a podcast experience that takes you on a wild ride through the comedic and critical facets of today's news.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay, I don't even know... This is the headline. A Florida man swallowed $769,000. At first, I thought it was $769. No, no, no. $769,000 stolen diamond earrings from Tiffany. And he asked cops if he'll, quote, be charged for what's in his stomach. He's clearly an amateur jewel thief. And he, Jathan Gilder, He pretended to be a representative for an Orlando Magic player to gain access. And this is WFLA. The thief apparently ran out of the store with two sets of earrings, one 4.8-carat set worth $160,000, another 8-carat set worth half a million dollars, according to the outlet. He was stopped by the Orlando Police Department on the highway. They got him for resisting arrest, but they could not find the earrings. So they were trying to charge him for theft. He spontaneously asked staff once he got into prison, once he got into jail, if he was going to be charged with, quote, what's in my stomach. And then they they're like, OK, so they had to undergo a body scan. And that's when they saw that they had he got some earrings in his belly. Oh, my gosh. So they literally have to pass through his system. So do you get a discount on them is what I'm curious about. Like, how clean can you get them? And is there a discount? I asked last night, I asked the internet because I had some rare time to sit down and I was going to watch something. And I went to look and I'm like, I don't have anything on my list. I don't have anything to watch. I have no idea what to watch. The one thing that I was watching was 1923, but I mean, it's like barely cranking out an episode a week and I can't stand that drip drip. And I wanted all of them. I want to binge when I can binge. So I'm like, oh my gosh, what do I? And I've been watching, you guys know since lockdown, my kids got me into anime because everything was horrid. And it was non-woke. And don't stop. Don't roll your eyes. It's not a cartoon. It's like more sophisticated than just like a cartoon. And very non-woke. And it's just really elaborately done. Things you can't do in meat space. Anyway, I was asking for stuff because what popped up when I went and looked on Netflix, you know what show popped up? it wasn't recommended for me. It just said new because they know better than to recommend this. It was at suitcase girl show, the Megan Markle show, her show where she pretends to be a chef. And I wanted to hate watch it because I don't like her. I think she's incredibly disingenuous and I just, there's a whole thing, but I, you know, I don't get into it. I do think that They're wrecks. This show, oh my gosh. I maybe looked at, I couldn't make it through like two minutes, guys. she's not a very good actor. She's a very bad actor. And people have these tells that they give off when you know that they're full of it or that they're not being their authentic selves. And it's just weird. Like this stuff that she says, nobody talks about it. And she, everything that she, I know I'm in a cream colored sweater. Shut up. I'll be back to black later. But everything that she wears is like Nordstrom beige and, And it's like she tries to be stealth wealth, but really doesn't want to be stealthy about it. I mean, she's doing this show. It's supposed to be a cooking show, but she doesn't actually cook. Like the other people cook, and then she just puts her hands all over everything and rearranges it. I watched where she took a bag of pretzels and then dumped it into another plastic bag so that it was prettier and then tied it up and was like, ta-da, chef. You know what? I did this for you because we're friends. Audio sound by 26. I just need you to understand how much I endure for you. Go ahead and do this. Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't think anyone in the world knows that Meghan Markle has eaten Jack in the Box and loves it.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I'm Sussex now. You have kids and you go, no, I share my name with my children. Yes. And that feels so, I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me, but it just means so much to go, this is our family name.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay, gosh, please let it pause for a minute. Pause, pause, pause. I can't. Wait a minute. Come back to it. Come back to it. Pause. Sorry, Juan. Juan's going to murder me. First off she's going to chop her damn fingers off With the vegetables I can't But how many beige things Can you wear all at once All of the beige I say this in a cream colored sweater I'm in jeans don't judge me This is the only thing I have that's not black Stop it But do you have to wear all of the sweaters? Number one. Number two, that was a... Bitch, you know my name is Sussex. You know that that's what that meant. She was like, it's so funny that you keep saying that. Your name isn't actually Sussex. Isn't it Mountbatten-Windsor? How do I know this? I don't know. Isn't that what the family's name is? Because isn't that when Elizabeth and Philip got married and Philip was mad that he couldn't give his name to his kids and they ended up being Mountbatten Windsor later. That's like actually their last name. County Sussex is the county that she's only been to like one time in her life and they don't even like them. And they they took that as the title. Your title is actually not your last name. But I don't that I can't. OK, go ahead. The cutting of the vegetables makes me nervous.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that feels so, I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me, but it just means so much to go, this is our family name. Husband and three dogs.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh my gosh, your fingers. What are you doing? I'm like worried about how she's cutting this stuff. It's endlessly variable. And it's got a lot of magic in it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I feel like you're watching me fall in love.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's very, very awkward. I'm so sorry I'm blushing. Megan, I want to ask about your look. My who? Your look. Your look, Megan. Oh, my look. Your look. Did I not say it right? I don't know. I'm way cooler than I am. I don't know what you're talking. My look. My look. She likes my look. Your look. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 01 :
Is this the banter from the show? So that was obviously set up. She's wearing a Louis Vuitton denim shirt. That's what the little V is there. And I'm like, seriously, that's like so not stealth wealth. That's like obnoxious. Anyway, what is where's the they like they made kids party bags and they put in a manuka honey stick, some seeds and like a little garden trowel. Like what kid wants that? No kid wants that. You know what kids want? They want garbage pail kids. They want sour patch candy. That's what they want. They want fun stuff. They want like something they can throw at their siblings. That's what they want. And then there was one moment where she said, it's such a delight to be a present parent. and acting like she's so busy. I was rolling my eyes so hard. A friend of mine texted me and said, oh my gosh, I tried to stomach this and I couldn't do it. What is a present parent? You're raising kids. You know how many other people before you have birth children, although some people ask, birth children, raise them or adopt children, raise them. They're present in their children's lives. They're there. I'm a present parent. And then she did this thing where she arranged fruit in a rainbow on the board. Who the hell has time for that? Who has time? I'm going to cut up my fruit. If you love your children as much as I do, you're going to poorly cut the fruit. Maybe put some fingers in there. Poorly cut the fruit and arrange it into a rainbow on a platter. And then she was saying, well, you can just use a large plate. This is like basic bee stuff. I don't know. What the aim of this program was, but it is one of the most cringe things because she is unaware of how horribly she comes off. She thinks the problem is everybody else. It's just so that's not even her house. They rented someone else's house. That's not even her house. She rented this couple's house in Montecito and that's where they filmed it. And so this is not even hers. It's just so terribly inauthentic. And everyone was saying, you're ripping off Pam Anderson because Pam Anderson apparently had a cooking thing. She was ripping off what Flamingo Estate, which is this like small business that's in Los Angeles and they do candles and all this stuff. So she launched these products. She's got a crepe mix and probably some other mass produced, you know, high process stuff. And of course, her jams, her jellies that they had to keep changing the trademark for a million times. I mean, I just, it's just so, this is not relatable. I mean, you can tell that she's not. I think she wants to be seen as being like a lifestyle guru, but you can literally see from her cooking skills in the kitchen that she's not. And it's okay to say that you have people that do this for you. Just be honest about it. Don't try to act to everybody else like this is stuff that you do day in and day out. Because nobody, ladies, can I get an amen? First off, you're not going to have your hair extensions all the way down in the fruit that you're cutting, number one. Number two, ain't nobody wearing white doing tomato sauce. No self-respecting cook is going to wear white and make tomato sauce. This is not happening, especially without an apron. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Like I watched it, watched enough to where I didn't choke to death. And then I just I did this because you guys were tight. Right. And I do this stuff for you as a favor. Don't subject yourself to this. Just scroll on past. It is one of the most inauthentic things I've ever watched in my life. You're not even interested in this stuff, Cain. I just don't know. Like, it wasn't even a proper. Oh, my gosh. So Juan has this. You can't see it, but I can see it in the monitor of her cutting. It's on a loop, her cutting things. And every time I look up, she gets like right there by her fingers. There's so many different parts of the show where she's trying to cut. She was cutting a strawberry. And I legit thought she was about ready to slice her finger off. I just couldn't even watch anymore. I'm like, this is horrible. It's just so inauthentic. And I, oh, look at it. Oh my gosh. What in the world? What is she cutting? Onions. Oh my gosh. And you can see that she's just not even, I don't know. It doesn't look authentic. You're not going to watch this and you like foodie stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
I am uninterested 100% in this.
SPEAKER 01 :
I would much rather watch the chef that she has make her family's food when the cameras aren't there. I would rather watch them do it. And then she can stand on the side and like wear her, you know, Laura Piana, like $2,000 culottes if she wants to. But oh my gosh, I can't even deal.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mindy Kaling, I'm a fan of hers.
SPEAKER 01 :
Are you? She's funny, yeah. She seems obnoxious.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, like in a woke way.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, I hate that. But I don't get that about her.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think she said interviews and stuff before. And it's just made me not want to watch anything she's in. I'm like, I can't stand people who get off camera and whine. Like you're literally in probably a $1,000 denim shirt. Shut up. Like I'm just not even hearing you. All right. I watched some of it, so you didn't have to. I'm not going to watch all of it. I'm not going to do a whole. I know everybody's doing this big hate watch viewing thing. I can't. I mean, I love you, but not that much. Partners, people who will bring you the program. It's Gold Co. We love gold. Although the URL is DanaLikesGold.com. I'm like, like isn't strong enough. It's my best friend. We're going to go get portraits at JCPenney. Do they still have those? You can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today. It could qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, maybe even more. Gold and silver have stood the test of time. And right now, remember Trump's first term, gold surged 53%, silver was 51%. So what does that look like 2025 and beyond now that he's back in office? Protect your wealth with gold and silver today. You can request their free 2025 gold and silver kit today. Learn how to diversify and safeguard your savings with time-tested safe haven assets. Experience matters when protecting your wealth, and GoldCo is the company that I trust. They've secured their financial future with gold and silver. They've helped so many people do this, and they've been with this program since the beginning. They know what they're doing. Visit DanaLikesGold.com. Join the thousands of people who have called GoldCo the number one rated gold company. And you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and also qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 01 :
So, this is ew. A woman was stung by a scorpion in Boston. Boston Logan Airport. She straight up got stung. My youngest son had a pet scorpion. What was it? An emperor scorpion or something like that? Called it Sherman. Because it looked like a tank. It was a black scorpion. They're weird. He wanted a tarantula. I was like, okay. I don't want things that are hairy with lots of legs. Let's not do that. So, we got a scorpion. Anyway. Oh, this is going to be chills. She totally she got stung. She was collecting her bags. They have no idea where it came from. They they wouldn't say if it was captured or killed or if it's like still crawling around the terminal. They have no idea where it is. I mean, they're not. OK, this is going to be a dumb question. And if my son heard it, he would probably literally make fun of me and turn me into a meme. They're not like bees, right? They don't like, you know, ripped our butt out with our stinger and we're dead. OK, thanks. So they they're they're trying to find it. They have like some experts come out, but they're like, oh, we're not too we're not too worried about it. I mean, I guess if you're OK and it's just mildly discomforting, that's OK. I mean, I can live with that, but it's still gross. What in the world? Why is this a story? They've been studying this. A percentage of people who pee in the shower has now been leaked in a new study. That's the headline. OK, I don't. A quarter of Americans do it on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 02 :
Really?
SPEAKER 01 :
They have indoor plumbing, right?
SPEAKER 02 :
I'd be lying if I said I never did it.
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't need to know this about you.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm just saying. I don't know how common it is. 25% seems like a lot.
SPEAKER 01 :
That seems like a lot. But they said in the course of an average year, they said 30% of men do it regularly. 20% of women, according to this survey, this is the New York Post, a quarter of millennials say it's a daily practice. Thankfully, Gen Xers are like 13%. That's and in total, 45 percent of Americans relieve themselves in the shower throughout the course of the. I'm sorry, but wasn't there another story that talked about men and do they actually wash their legs and feet or do they let the soap drip down? So I've got like a million. This does not like it. Maybe that's how you shower. Then maybe definitely use the toilet. You know what I'm saying? Like, why is this? Let's not let's not evolve backwards. Let's not do that. A man is suing his brother-in-law after he filled his belly button with super glue. The man says he's filed a legal claim against his brother-in-law. It was a prank. He poured super glue into his belly button while he slept. And the man says that he and his wife and family are furious. They took him to small claims court. He felt like he had no choice. They were at a family barbecue. He had a few too many beers. Fell asleep without a shirt on. His brother-in-law thought it would be hilarious. And he said it partially dried and it was stuck. They adhered to the skin. It was horrible. $1,000 copay for emergency room visit, $2,200 medical bill. He asked the brother-in-law to cover the cost. The brother-in-law refused. I got to feel like the brother-in-law is in the wrong here. Sorry. You need to help pay up, dude. Because that's lame. And also, don't get drunk and fall asleep in a hammock around family like that. What is the matter with you? Trust no one. You know, even at a family event, at a family barbecue. Because, you know, I feel like maybe you've probably done something like this before. I am not reading this last story, Cain. Thank heavens. Attorney General Kim Paxton is coming in to save the day because I'm not going to tell you about this Missouri man who tried to have a romantic evening with a train seat. Not making it up. Stick with us. Having help. Our friends at Caltech. The PR-57, it's a 5.7. And this is a really ingenious gun. I always say that George Kellgren is kind of like a mad scientist. So the PR-57 is the smallest, it's the thinnest, lightest 5.7 that you can get. It's actually 40% lighter than the next super light 5.7 that's on the market. And the cool thing with Kel-Tec, with this firearm particularly, and this is the one that came out of their new Wyoming plant, I think. I think this one did, the PR-57. It's the way that, well, they incorporate actual stripper clips instead of magazines. I know. Now the left, when they talk about firearms and they try to use clips and magazines interchangeably. Well, guess what? You can actually be right with us. It has a very unique top loading design. So it replaces the traditional mags. You got the clips in there. It's for a slimmer profile, 20 plus one capacity, low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. And it has this innovative rotary barrel. That's what helps all make it the lightest 5.7 on the market. MSRP is only $399. Super affordable. And it's the first of its kind. It's the Kel-Tec PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol Chambered in 5.7. Kel-TecWeapons.com is where you can go to learn more. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec. K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you. You know, the Biden's got issues. Did you hear the story to Hunter Biden saying that he's absolutely broke? He asked a judge to drop the laptop lawsuit. He says he's millions in debt, that it's been worsened by the L.A. wildfires. I don't know how it's worsened. He was only renting the house that he was in. Wasn't the house. that the Secret Service was in, I think that one burned down and the wildfires, the one that they had leased right next door. So he can't. Nobody wants to buy his paintings, I guess, anymore. That was in Politico. They said Hunter Biden broke a pardon from his dad, spared him from prison, but he remains saddled with debt. He was forced out of the home he was renting by the fire in the Pacific Palisades. He said he's got a grim financial situation that came out of a court filing that saying that he struggled to sell his paintings in recent months, moving only one in the past 14 months. In the prior two to three years, he moved 27 paintings. He sold 27 paintings. He reported significant debt. Wait, sorry. How many of it was that one wannabe Big Lebowski guy who was his lawyer and pot buddy? Yeah, how many? Didn't he buy most of them? He bought a lot. Yeah. He reported significant debts, lackluster sales of his memoirs, I sold a hell of a lot more books than Hunter Biden. He sold only 4,200 copies in a year. Wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
And those are just bookstore orders. That doesn't mean that the bookstore actually sold them.
SPEAKER 01 :
Wow. So, I mean, it's so shocking that Biden's art career ended the day that his dad left office. How crazy is that? I mean, I am marveling at the sheer coincidence of it all, Cain. Truly coincidental that now, because Biden isn't in office anymore, he's no longer president of the United States. Suddenly, Hunter Biden's spit paintings are no longer, guys, valuable. Nobody wants to buy them. So he's begging. He's saying he's broke. You know what? Maybe living in... Let me look at this. Let me look at the... Maybe living in the Pacific Palisades, renting the home that he was. You realize he was paying... Goodness. Oh, man. I mean, he was paying $15,000 a month. Oh, sorry. $16,000 a month. He was paying $16,000 a month. And... Apparently, I guess that house was burned down and then the house that was right next door to it, which was also about $15,000 to $16,000 a month, we taxpayers had to pay that bill for Secret Service to live next door to him. Why did he think? He didn't need to even live out there. He didn't need to live out there to work or for any other reason. Why did he think that he could swing a $15,800 a month home, rent it, when his income is entirely predicated upon his dad's influence as president. I mean, he didn't even prepare. He was still in that house as his dad was like, you could watch him lose the reelection. He didn't even have the foresight to plan adequately for what life after his dad not in office anymore, for what that life would look like. That's the other. He is one of the most irresponsible males I have ever seen in my life. Talk about a failure to launch. It's him. Oh, my gosh. He's 50 something years old. He's in his mid 50s. His mid 50s. He can get like the Denny's early bird thing, right? And he still can't stand on his own? He's got to have daddy, merch out daddy, so he can make his money? This man did not need to live in a $15,800 a month rental. Talk about having champagne taste and a beer budget. He could have been living in a decent sized home, paying a regular mortgage or a regular rent on a house back where his family is in Delaware. But he didn't want to do that. He was trying to live it up. They think that they're this great dynasty. And that's is that not just a Democrat for you now? He's like, oh, I got to have I can't suffer the consequences of my illegal actions. So I'm just I can we just throw these cases out? Can you imagine going to the judge? I didn't manage my money responsibly. And so now I'm broke. Can we can we throw the case out? Can you imagine going and saying that? Just shocking. Absolutely shocking.
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Friends, I would do it again. I have to be candid with you. I'm not trying to in some way insult you. This is a matter of principle. This is a matter of conscience. There are people suffering in this country because they don't have healthcare. I'll close with this. On some issues that are matters of conscience It is better to stand alone than not stand at all.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, you didn't stand at all. You had a tantrum. You had a tantrum on the floor of the House. And I read yesterday that he's already looking into, and I don't understand this, drafting articles of impeachment for some reason. Now, I want you to consider this. So he was removed from the House floor by who? by Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson. And Speaker Johnson did what? He called for the sergeant at arms, asked the sergeant of arms to remove Al Green, and Al Green's response is, that damn Trump. He's a meme at this point. He's just a walking, talking meme. And I'm still trying to kind of understand why they think that this is helpful especially after you had POTUS who just gave this address right had this address and Their response isn't, wow, you know, when he told us, looked right at us and said maybe we should focus on tax cuts and all of this stuff. You know what? Let's instead of doing that, let's focus on impeaching him because you know if that – first off, it's not going to go through the House again even though Republicans have such – an unbelievably narrow majority. It's just not, it's just never, it's just not going to happen. There aren't enough Democrats this go around to make this work. There's just not enough Democrats, number one. Number two, I think that even some of the leftiest Democrats among them are going to run from something like that for the simple fact of optics, of optics. Because what have we been talking about on the program for God knows how long? How they are not normal anymore. You have the party of freaks. The party of men and women's bathrooms. The party of high taxes. The party of what inflation. The party of let's keep giving our money to Ukraine. And then you watch everything burn down in Maui and in the Carolinas and even in California. Because of all of that. And all they have to do, again, oh my gosh, why is this so hard? All they got to do is just be normal for the love of all things. Holy my gosh. They can't even do that. They can't even just, you know, not do this stuff again. It didn't work out for you last time. Why are you trying it again? And if anything, they're just going to make the voters angrier and angrier and angrier and angrier. That's what's going to happen. So they can sit here and they can do all this stuff. That's all well and good. But in the end, it's not going to get them a single thing except voter rage. Voters are going to be upset because they're not getting what they asked for. Voters are going to be mad because they are going to look at Democrats. Oh, here are Democrats playing around again. You know, they're just playing around, not doing anything serious. I'm so tired of this stuff. And I swear to you, if I have to deal with another flippant impeachment case, oh, my God, I can't deal with another one. I can't deal with it anymore. It was stupid the first time around. It's going to be dumber still now, especially because, I mean, we're going to talk about this. The video here coming up that they, oh, you didn't see it because you have a life. Sorry. You got a life and you do productive things. You didn't see it. Well, Democrats made a video for you. We got to talk about it because they I don't know. It's just help us all. I can't even. So welcome to the show. Top of this first hour. Dana Lash with you. And like I said, a lot of stuff to touch on because these. We've got a lot. We've got Ukraine. We've got all the latest with Ukraine. We've got this. He's signing a bunch of executive orders today, too. I think it's at one o'clock. Isn't that right? Well, sorry. two Eastern, one Central, I believe. And we'll take any remarks that he gives about that. We'll make sure that you will air some of those because I'm curious as to what he, what, you know, I like his commentary when they hand him the little things to sign because he comments on all of it. So we're going to have that for you as well. Get into all of that. We're also going to touch on the latest again with all the Democrats. And I got a warning for you on 2028. A big warning for you in 2020, not enough people are paying attention to this, and they should. And so we're going to discuss all of that. So in the meantime, POTUS today, executive orders coming in, and the Department of Education, this is the stuff that you need to do right off the bat. Before all the midterms start, because he's ordering the he's ordering Linda McMahon to start dissolving the Department of Education. This is per the Hill. So the EO on this is for her to take the necessary steps to shut it down. This was something that he put through earlier this week. It's signing. He's signing this this afternoon. It's going to direct her to begin dissolving. the Department of Education. Maybe everything can just go to the state. Now, the interesting thing, and this is per the Post in the Wall Street Journal, The executive order was one of the things that he was immediately focusing on during the transition. So as it pertains to the Department of Education. So this was something that he was looking at like way before he even got into office. And it it recognizes in the EO that they don't have the authority to abolish the department and that, you know, they're there. It would likely take 60 votes in the Senate. Republicans only have 53 seats, so it's not going to happen. unless Republicans only have to pick off a couple of Democrats for it. But they're asking her to take all the necessary steps to facilitate this closure. So they're starting it. So you're going to hear a lot more weeping and gnashing of the teeth from Democrats on this. Because they're looking at it like, oh, he's going to dissolve the Department of Education. Look, he's going to do this to the Department of Education. He's going to dissolve it. What have we gotten for it? I mean, I think that the results speak for itself. What have parents gotten from taking the administration of their children's education literally out of their hands and consolidating it all the way in Washington, D.C.? You can't say that it turned into a strength for us. That's not something anybody can say. So... I mean, I think that this is this is one of those moves that's going to go right into the getting right into the heart of what the coalition is on the right. So all the independents and moderates for them, this is their issue. They're a big issue. Education to be able to have this and serve this as fast, even if it's an EO that recognizes that they don't have the authority unless it goes through the Senate still. That's going to be a really good optic for people who are – they need a little something after all of their efforts post-November, right, leading up to and after. And I think this is a great way for that to happen. He's using these executive orders in a very interesting way, too, because it's not just – him trying to get ahead of Congress, get something set, and then demanding that Congress immediately go behind him and do it, which he is. But it's also challenging. I think it's very much outboxing Democrats. And it's really putting the onus on them. It's really challenging them. I mean, you saw the act that all of them... I mean, they couldn't get one Democrat to support the protection, the women's and sports bill. You couldn't even get a Democrat to stand up and support. It was insane. So... It's making it... It does. It makes him look like he's doing a lot of stuff, which he is with the EOs. But at some point, that balance is going to get a little off balance. And it's going to start looking bad if Republicans don't make it permanent, which we've talked about ad nauseum. And we're going to continue talking about it because we got Carol Roth on later to talk about some of the tariffs, the tariff plan. And I really... Again, I really feel like they need... POTUS should do like a rally that focuses specifically on economics. He should do a rally that specifically focuses on that. And he can get out there and he can have it like a World War II vibe, right? But without like doing, you know. Have, you know, like Victory Guard, something like that. Like that whole aesthetic. He should do an economic rally where he's explaining this, you know, to people. Have the OJs. Are the OJs all alive? Kane? Did you think I would be asking you, hey, Cain, will you Google for me while we're on it? Can you Google for me? Are the OJs living? Not the Simpsons, but, you know, they could have them play, you know, money, money, money. Just he could have them play.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it doesn't appear.
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, maybe a cover band. Just saying there's a lot of stuff that could happen. I really I mean, am I I know I'm like, OK, rallies are us. But I really think that one of these would be super beneficial to people. Right. Because it's going to get tough. And he needs to come out and say, follow me. Follow me into this. And I'm going to bring you out on the other side. I cannot stress to you how much more important that is than the taint bros and all of the other stuff that's out there just serving as a distraction. This is so incredibly important. Because I am really watching. I'm telling you, I'm hearing from... I had a lot of friends and family. Because you guys know I was raised by Democrats. I had a lot of people that I'm related to who... voted for Trump this last time around for that reason. A lot of them, the sports thing was a little lower on the list of priorities, but every single one of them, they really wanted action here. they believed that Trump is the one to handle the economy. And they still believe it. But I don't want that faith to get rocked because there's a storm coming in 28 and in 26. We're going to talk about that here coming up. We've got headlines on the way. It's our friends over. It's the non-firearm firearm. It's the Berna gun. The Berna gun is, well, it doesn't care about gun-free zone signs. It doesn't care about any of that stuff. The Berna gun is a great way to diversify what you have already for your weapon. for your weapons. I have friends, and when I first heard about it, I had a friend who lives in D.C., and they have their license. It's really difficult to get one of those carry licenses in D.C., but my friend has it. And unfortunately, they're not able to carry it like in 90 percent of the places because the municipal and private property and all that stuff. But because of the nature of their work, they have to walk to their car late at night sometimes. And that's pretty dangerous, especially in a high crime city. So they went and they got a burner gun. They got specifically the SD. It's their best selling model. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. When you compare it to average stun guns, stun guns are what, one or two rounds. Brenna SD offers five. And there are different models. This is the most popular one. You have instant readiness. There's no recoil. And again, five round capacity. This is a great way to diversify. I mean, you carry knives, you carry blades. So this makes sense, especially in those kind of difficult areas. Again, doesn't care about gun-free zone signs, no waiting period, no background check. It ships right to your door. Right now, you can get 10% off of your purchase, but the only way to do that is to go through Byrna.com slash Dana and see everything that they have. Byrna.com slash Dana for 10% off.
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So 538, as soon as, of course, they get rid of Nate Silver, 538 just goes to hell. So it gets the axe. ABC News slashes jobs in a major shakeup. Insert joke about learning to code. Just saying. Just saying. So they got a major... Because you know what? You're going to see this more and more. Okay, here's my... Try not to be on the conspiracy theory bus. And I hit my mic because I talk with my hands to an insufferably annoying degree. Is it... You could be because people are tired of legacy media and the digital consumption is now fully kicking off. And so the way that people are consuming news is changing. Or... They lost all that USAID funding, the USAID funding, and they got to cut jobs. I'm just saying, it's, you know, I'm not saying sane, but I'm speculating. It's probably still not a great idea to vacation in Mexico. We had friends who invited us. I've never been to a tequila tasting, and I'm like... I really don't want to go and get my hands chopped off and be found on the side of the road in a bag. Although I'm sure there's still some there's some psycho stalker killers out there who would like that. Nine students disappeared on a holiday. They were tragically found dismembered by the side of the road, along with a literal bag of their hands. It was in southern Mexico. There were Mexican nationals, but they were on their way. uh to you know basically across the country uh for a beach vacation initial assessments showed bullet wounds signs of torture uh it was the four women five men ages 19 to 30 they were all in the trunk of an abandoned car with their hands in a bag uh and they were all nine students and they were reported missing uh and uh they were just horrific i'm just saying kane i'm just you know Yeah. Apparently they say swearing is linked with increased pain tolerance and strength. Just saying I don't have any vices but that one. That is definitely advice that I have. And I'm not going to lie. Trying to, you know, new year, new me, you know, trying to stop. It doesn't make you nervous. Stop it. So ridiculous. But they said that it's it's not a near obviously near universal feature of language. It's still considered not societal, not socially correct. But they said that there is they've noted in psychology that there's something like those outbursts like that do something for the human psyche. And they think it's related to pain reduction. Is that why you would have weightlifters make those noises? I'm thinking there's something with it. I think they're right. Dysentery, which always killed me in the Oregon Trail. Dysentery. It's on the rise in Oregon of all places. Yes, it's the diarrhea inducing dysentery is making a stomach turning comeback. They said it's a hyper contagious bacterial disease. It surged in a couple of different counties. There was one where 40 cases were reported alone. They said they're trying to get a handle on it. But just, you know, maybe. don't be dirty I don't know like I don't I don't really have any idea of how do you not do like don't play with feces I mean I like really what I don't understand how people get it are you drinking puddle water like stop it We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. The folks over at My Family Pharmacy, this website has saved me more times than I can count. I mean, my health, my actual literal health. I was sick over a holiday. It was like Thanksgiving. I had a host. I was getting strep throat. The urgent care was like a crazy. I couldn't even get into my ENT. All Family Pharmacy helped me out. I got my azithromycin. Actually, I got it overnighted. And it immediately started helping, obviously, with my symptoms and sickness, helping with the super sore throat, all of that. They have over 200 different medications. All of the antibiotics that they have, it's all made in the USA. I don't know anywhere else where you can say that, but you don't have to worry about quality and safety with All Family Pharmacy. You can always be prepared. It's simple, fast and affordable. No insurance, no problem. They got straightforward pricing and their shipping is just two to four days overnight. Also in a pinch. Your health is always within reach. So order from the comfort of home as well. I mean, they can deliver right to your door. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana 10 for 10% off of your entire order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off, but you got to use promo code Dana10 to unlock that discount. Dana10, allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana.
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Sir, who do you think the leader of the Democratic Party is right now?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think the voting public right now is what I would say. No, they're not. And I keep telling that. We're not going to have a charismatic leader ride in here and save us from this.
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, I don't know how high he has to be in order to believe that. But, you know, Tim Walz, I bet he was smelling burning tire with his wife, Gwen. Burning tires. And I don't know, maybe the chemicals. Actually looking straight at the camera and going, yeah, the voting public is the leader of the party. Remember the voting public that we actually didn't really allow to vote on our candidate? Yeah, that's them. That's them right there. Okay, a warning about 2028. Now, I already see it happening. 26 is going to determine a lot of this. And I know everybody's already like, golly, Dana, stop talking to me about elections. Guys, somebody's got to because Democrats already are. The smart ones are already planning. The dumb ones, and we'll talk about that in a moment, they're making videos for TikTok. But I saw that Gavin Newsom gave an interview where, and it was brilliant the way he did it. And I don't like saying these nice things about him. They're not nice about him. I'm just simply remarking on his strategy because I'm not a fan, obviously. But I think that people underestimate him. And that is very dangerous, right? He is, so this is going to be a weird observation. He is the type of guy who strategizes like a woman does. Does that make sense? Kane, does that make sense to you? He doesn't approach issues like a man does. Men approach issues typically more head on, right? They just confront them. They deal with it. Women are different. We employ subterfuge. We use misdirection. There is definitely more, it's a little bit more performative. And we just have a very different, more, women are more underhanded and we have a more underhanded approach. And the most dangerous people in politics are the men who operate in that same way. They're dangerous. So he has that quality. Imagine if like Claire McCaskill was a dude. Right. And had a little bit more success in elected office. Very similar. He is a he's a good strategist. And I know we make fun of it. You know, we make fun of him for going to French laundry and we make fun of him for probably using too much hair product. And the braille to nowhere. He's got all this stuff in his back and his baggage. He's got all this. But he's all he also knows how to read the room. And he's doing that now. We laughed at him a year ago when he tried stepping up to DeSantis and doing, oh, well, you're the Florida blueprint, we're the California blueprint. He did that very purposefully. And I think DeSantis moving out and doing it the way he did was kind of a way to thwart Newsom, right? To thwart him. So the... whole thing with newsome and the way he's approaching this he does this interview and he's been talking to a couple of different media outlets and doing some podcast stuff and he's got his own doesn't he's got his own podcast now he launched his own podcast And he is acting like he's moving to the center on the trans issues. He was saying that he thinks it's deeply unfair, is how he said it, for women to have to deal with men competing in women's sports. Now, he's only just saying this after you're well past the election. He's saying this well past the election. You know, he's fundraising, filing things like that. And well before midterms, he's he's trying to this is what they do. They run to the middle. He is making a deliberate play for independents and moderates. The people who looked at Democrats and were like, oh, my gosh, these people are freaks. I'm going to the other side and vote it. And I know I talk about this a lot, but I'm trying to drive it home how unbelievably important this is. This is their strategy. It has to be. This is the only thing that they can do. They're so far left. There's nowhere else to go. When Tim Walz says that the voting public is that those are the people that lead the party, he's so wrong. The establishment freaks leave the party and they let it away from the voters. Remember the saying this was back. I think it became popular to say when Reagan became a Republican and was it Reagan who said I didn't leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me or something to that effect. There are a lot of people who feel like that right now. And those are the people who went and voted for Trump. They voted and they became part of the coalition. They're not necessarily like party animals, but they went and they voted for for Trump and voted for the right. But that doesn't mean that that claim is forever, right? You might have them one election cycle. If Republicans don't mess it up, you may have them two. And that's what Republicans need to be focused on, which is another reason why I'm so mad they're not moving these spending cuts in fast enough. So to my point, enter Newsom. Newsom sees this clearly. He's been trying to make a play for this for some time. He's tried other strategies. He's recognized they didn't work. And so now he's he's maneuvering into a new presentation. Oh, yes, it's bad, the trans stuff. Well, that's something that you can even get hardcore lefties in California to agree with you on. It's something that you can get hardcore righties to agree with you on. It's something that you can get the independents and the moderates to agree with you on. You are right there on the sweet spot of the issue, and he's making that his big thing. You know, his podcast, he comes out with his first thing. That's his big thing. That's his big issue change. He's making himself more palatable to a general audience. He's going to continue doing this slowly, but surely, until he has reinvented himself. So then he'll watch midterms and see how midterms happen. If Democrats, or not Democrats, because Democrats aren't the problem here, Republicans are. If Republicans can't even bring these bills up, if they can't even sponsor these bills that implement the cuts that we voted for, those people that Newsom is now soft targeting, he's going to start coming in with moderate economic proposals. It'll be soft on it, but it'll be just enough where it'll hook their interest. And then he'll reel them in with these other issues. You watch him go soft on the border, at least for a Democrat, he's going to start talking about more border security and the importance of it. He's going to make it look like he wants to free his party of the radical establishment, and he's going to act like he wants to bring back some moderation and bring the party more back to center. He'll talk about to represent the real Americans. He might even use the phrase the classical liberals. And he's going to bring all of this out in the media because they don't have anyone else. Who else do they have? Andrew Cuomo is still too far away to be considered liberal. prime for rehabilitation. He's thinking about running for mayor. He's very slowly trying to work his way back. He's not ready yet. May never be. You've got Klobuchar, right? You've got Bashir in Kentucky, who's going to be Newsom's biggest competitor. Bashir is a Democrat in a red state, and he's been able to kind of mansion it. He sort of, he knows how to toe the line. He knows how to balance on both sides. Newsom also has a formidable war chest. And he's got all of the biggest donors in the Democrat Party. They're like either his family or lifelong friends. He knows all the people who make all the ads, everything. Do not underestimate him. He is the biggest threat as a candidate to Republicans for 2028. He's got the name recognition. He picks his fights smart. And he's already moderating. And people think that they're getting him for an interview. He's getting you for an interview. He's using you to help build up his new retconned history. Now, don't think that he's going to hold these positions. I mean, heaven forbid, if he gets elected, guess where he's going? Right back. Right back. But not all the way back. He'll walk it back just a little bit to try to rope in those radicals who are going to see him as, yes, he's not radical enough, but he's the only one we have. Moderates and independents will see him as, well, we don't know what we're going to get after Trump and we don't want crazy. So we don't know. Maybe maybe we'll reconsider. It is going to be the perfect time for them to say, consider coming back. Come back home. That's going to be their whole slogan. Because after Trump, who is it? It's not certain. Nobody knows. And if it is anybody that. Can't do that is not going to be able to deliver or doesn't have a record of delivering these independents and moderates. They're going to very easily float that all the way back. So Republicans need to figure out how they're going to deal with us. They they they need to start now. They can't do what they did in 2012 and not pay attention to all the warning signs and all these troubled districts and stick their heads in the sand. And then, oh, Election Day, maybe we should do something. They got to get ahead of it. So I'm telling you, he's super. There's several. There are several politicians that are coming up. Lorraine accurately notes Westmore in Maryland, too. He's another one to watch. You got Bashir. You got more. There's maybe like four with Newsom included to kind of keep an eye on. But they're very slowly and very quietly rebuilding their bench. And they're going to reinvent themselves and they're going to do it with bells and whistles that you would expect from a party that has close ties to Hollywood. Are Republicans in 28 going to be ready? And I know that it seems like it's so far away. It's not even four years away now. And then what happens if Republicans can't get it together right now and you lose midterms and you're going to be operating from a hugely disadvantaged position? You have to be two elections ahead of these people every single time. Everything that is happening right now is going to determine that. This right now is the test period for this coalition. It wasn't able to stay together after Reagan. I hope everybody realizes that. It fell apart after Reagan. There was a kind of a micro one in the 90s with Gingrich and his contract with America. And then there was a little bit of one that came together again in the Tea Party days in 2008. But it fell apart after that. So how is the right going to maintain it? I don't actually have the answer to that. But I cannot warn people enough about this. Cannot warn people enough about Audio soundbite, too, real quick. This is what Tim Walz was saying about these town halls, that the town halls, by the way, are absolutely astroturfed. But I want you to listen to how he's leveraging them.
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There is going to be an organic uprising, which we're seeing out of folks, and many of those are independents at these Republican town halls.
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They're making the play now. I don't think Tim Walz is going to be any kind of character in any sort of future administration. But right now he's a dispatch. They're dispatching him for messaging. Telling you, this is a very interesting thing to watch. We've got a lot coming up because we got to talk about the move. Now, there was a lot of discussion about Trump and Ukrainian refugees, etc., etc., A little bit different from what actually apparently is being looked at. So we're going to talk about that as well coming up. We're also going to get into the BlackRock at Panama Canal and tariffs with Carol Roth. We're going to be talking with her. And then later, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton will be joining us. So pretty big show. We've got a lot planned for you today as we move. Our partners that help bring you this program, GoldCo. You guys know I love gold and silver. It's tangible. And during the president's first term, gold surged 53 percent, silver 51. Precious metals could potentially break new records in 2025. So protect your wealth with gold and silver today. They stand the test of time. At DanaLikesGold.com, you can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, maybe even more. Safeguard your savings with this free 2025 gold and silver kit. Visit danalikesgold.com, join the thousands who've already called GoldCo the number one rated gold company, and you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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public education from defunding it from a federal level. And then all set up that is going, that is ongoing. It's a recipe to make education unavailable to black people. And where does that then leave us? It puts us back to when America was great and we were picking cotton and all of it, we're doing the productivity that they are putting the my Latino brothers and sisters who migrate here to do that work because we are not suited intellectually to do it anymore. And but they would have us back confined to doing that kind of work. So we got to watch out for where we are headed.
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And it's the people that will I feel did we accidentally just get super drunk? What did I just hear? That's Hank Johnson. He is now in his defense. He also thought that Guam would tip over.
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I'm not sure that's a defense.
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Yeah. I mean, I really... Yeah. So, wait, hold up. No one spliced that together? That sounds insane. It's like he caught himself and he just kept falling, right? Just tumbling, just grabbing onto these branches, you know, just tumbling, just falling down a hill. He's trying so hard to, you know, he's and, you know, because we're not, you know, capable of doing it. You know, we're not. Oh, he realized how bad does that sound? I got to put myself down now. We're not smart enough and all that. Like, why does that where why do Democrats go there? I mean, it was almost like he was saying, well, we have to. I mean, is he saying you got to replace slave labor? Is that what he's saying? Yes. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Who is the guy, the younger guy in the little box above him who is laughing, who is smiling really big? Because I could tell he's trying not to laugh.
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I don't know who that is.
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There's a couple of points.
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There should be a name on there. It's too blurry to see.
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Yeah, it's too blurry to see. And the other women are just staring at him like, who leaked that? Someone on that call had to leak that. They had to think this man is crazy. We've got to keep that. We got it. No, he's crazy. That is a really it's weird. What he's saying is is insane. I mean, good night. That's where Democrats always go every single time. Like what we got. I don't know. We have time to play it, but we'll come up with it. There's they I mean, we've got audio. They say this all the time. They go back on, well, if we're talking about immigration, who's going to do these jobs here? Do you realize how racist these people are? Is there no self-awareness? Oh my gosh. Who's going to plunge our toilets? That cut makes me so, I was cringing. I was like wadding myself up into a ball while he's saying it. It just was so painful. Oh my gosh. I just, all right, coming up in our second hour. They're now saying that it was a slur, what Trump said to Elizabeth Warren at the joint address. Yeah, they are. So we must discuss this. We're also we've got Carol Roth is going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour as well. The latest with Ukraine. We're watching for these executive orders about the Department of Education. Megan Markle's new horrifying show. That is so much more. Stick with us. Our partners over at Tax Network USA. This is an organization, a great entity that's going to help you with your tax burden because they're firing people at the IRS, but not fast enough yet. And well, you know, deadlines are coming up. IRS, the largest collection agency in the world, and they just operate knowing that they just don't like you. Getting ahead of anything, if any of this is a smart move, but never, ever, ever contact the IRS alone. Oh, and never turn it over to the team at Tax Network USA. because all they do is sleep and then eat and then fight with the IRS. That's all they do. That's all they do in life, those three things. Don't wait. Schedule a complimentary consultation. Talk with a Tax Network USA strategist, 1-800-958-1000 or tnusa.com slash Dana. They have proven resolution strategies. It doesn't matter if it's $10,000 that you owe, $10 million. They have tailored strategies designed to settle your issues in your favor. They have a team of attorneys and negotiators. They've resolved a billion dollars in tax debt already. They deliver for their clients with risk-free solutions. And these people know how to navigate the system. They know who to call and who to avoid. So talk with them today. Schedule a complimentary consultation by calling 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com slash Dana. Don't let the IRS's aggressive tactics control your future. TNUSA.com slash Dana.
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Our next question is from Aaron Gregg with the Washington Post.
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Hi, everyone.
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Thanks for doing this. So my question relates to Elon Musk has said that he made the offer to bring you guys back earlier and that it was denied. My first question is, is that true? And if so, what would that have looked like? Was he offering to make another flight, push seats on another flight? Could you give us some background there?
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I can only say that Mr. Musk, what he says is absolutely factual. We have no information on that, though, whatsoever. What was offered, what was not offered, who it was offered to, how that process went. That's information that we simply don't have. So I believe him. I don't know all those details, and I don't think any of us really can give you the answer that maybe that you would be hoping for.
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Dang. So these are the two... This story fascinates me. These are the two... astronauts that were supposed to be up in at the iss for what eight days and it's been a year uh yeah it's been a while and they've it's because the uh the vessel that they were going to come back back on they had what i think it was the thrusters there were a couple of there were some malfunctions and they needed a needed to fix it and they I think it was the Crew Dragon capsule that SpaceX launched. That was like last fall. They were going to try to get it to get them last fall. And they docked it apparently at the space station. And then apparently NASA looks like they stall the return. I'm curious. This is just a crazy story. Welcome back. Top of the second hour. Dana Lesh with you. The chat's at Rumble. And, of course, we're on Channel 347, DirecTV, all kinds of good stuff. I think this is very interesting. Now it's a space drama because the Biden's being accused of stalling this out for political reasons. I can't even imagine deciding to keep astronauts out there because of it. And they're stranded. I mean, that's you know, they've been up there for forever. God love them. Sunita Williams and Barry Wilmore. They call him Butch. They've been up there. They're Boeing Starliner. That's the capsule that they were on. That's the one that malfunctioned. And they've been stuck up there. And so that was the claim that Musk had made is that that Biden stalled out their rescue for political reasons. Wilmore, he you know, he had denied in an earlier question, you know, that he about whether politics had anything to do. But then when the reporter got more pointed with it, then he said, you know, well, I can only say that what he says is factual. That's great. I'm trying to think like what. What would the political payoff be? for Biden to keep them stranded. I would think that that would be a win for him, right? Bringing home astronauts stranded on the ISS. So why would you not do that? I'm trying to figure out what the payoff would be. Because you don't want Musk having that victory? Is that the only thing I can think of?
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He didn't want to partner with Musk. I think it might simply be that. Really? I mean, the only other thing I could think of is that they were so confident that it would fail that they didn't want that failure in their administration. I mean, literally, those are the only two explanations that make any sense at all.
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That is so petty. That is so petty. So petty. They just didn't want to have Musk having them. I don't know. You know, Biden's got issues. Did you hear the story, too? Hunter Biden saying that he's absolutely broke. He asked a judge to drop the laptop lawsuit. He says he's millions in debt, that it's been worsened by the L.A. wildfires. I don't know how it's worsened. He was only renting the house that he was in. Wasn't the house... that the Secret Service was in, I think that one burned down and the wildfires, the one that they had leased right next door. So he can't. Nobody wants to buy his paintings, I guess, anymore. That was in Politico. They said Hunter Biden broke a pardon from his dad, spared him from prison, but he remains saddled with debt. He was forced out of the home he was renting by the fire in the Pacific Palisades. He said he's got a grim financial situation that came out of a court filing that saying that he struggled to sell his paintings in recent months, moving only one in the past 14 months. In the prior two to three years, he moved 27 paintings. He sold 27 paintings. He reported significant debt. Wait, sorry. How many of it was that one wannabe Big Lebowski guy who was his lawyer and pot buddy? Yeah, how many? Didn't he buy most of them? He bought a lot. Yeah. He reported significant debts, lackluster sales of his memoirs, I sold a hell of a lot more books than Hunter Biden. He sold only 4,200 copies in a year. Wow.
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And those are just bookstore orders. That doesn't mean that the bookstore actually sold them.
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Wow. So, I mean, it's so shocking that Biden's art career ended the day that his dad left office. How crazy is that? I mean, I am marveling at the sheer coincidence of it all, Cain. Truly coincidental that now, because Biden isn't in office anymore, he's no longer president of the United States. Suddenly, Hunter Biden's spit paintings are no longer, guys, valuable. Nobody wants to buy them. So he's begging. He's saying he's broke. You know what? Maybe living in... Let me look at this. Let me look at the... Maybe living in the Pacific Palisades, renting the home that he was. You realize he was paying... Goodness. Oh, man. I mean, he was paying $15,000 a month. Oh, sorry. $16,000 a month. He was paying $16,000 a month. And... Apparently, I guess that house was burned down and then the house that was right next door to it, which was also about $15,000 to $16,000 a month, we taxpayers had to pay that bill for Secret Service to live next door to him. Why did he think? He didn't need to even live out there. He didn't need to live out there to work or for any other reason. Why did he think that he could swing a $15,800 a month home, rent it, when his income is entirely predicated upon his dad's influence as president. I mean, he didn't even prepare. He was still in that house as his dad was like, you could watch him lose the reelection. He didn't even have the foresight to plan adequately for what life after his dad not in office anymore, for what that life would look like. That's the other. He is one of the most irresponsible males I have ever seen in my life. Talk about a failure to launch. It's him. Oh, my gosh. He's 50 something years old. He's in his mid 50s. His mid 50s. He can get like the Denny's early bird thing, right? And he still can't stand on his own? He's got to have daddy, merch out daddy, so he can make his money? This man did not need to live in a $15,800 a month rental. Talk about having champagne taste and a beer budget. He could have been living in a decent sized home, paying a regular mortgage or a regular rent on a house back where his family is in Delaware. But he didn't want to do that. He was trying to live it up. They think that they're this great dynasty. And that's is that not just a Democrat for you now? He's like, oh, I got to have I can't suffer the consequences of my illegal actions. So I'm just I can we just throw these cases out? Can you imagine going to the judge? I didn't manage my money responsibly. And so now I'm broke. Can we can we throw the case out? Can you imagine going and saying that? Just shocking. Absolutely shocking. Where's this video? I want to show you guys. This is what Democrats, I'm sorry to do this to you. So they decided to make a cutie little TikTok video. The Democrats did. Specifically, some that I don't know and who else? AOC, Jasmine Crockett. I guess they're trying to be Mortal Kombat fans. Can you just... I'm sorry. Can you play it? I hate this. It's so bad. It's so... Has their little descriptions in the bottom. Now, I have a question. She hates... What? Not into hair dye. Okay, that's great. That's so awkward. Oh, gosh. So awkward. Why does this one have two sprained fingers? That's literally what it says at the bottom. Why does she have two sprints? This is so awkward. Someone said that AOC was in a room that looked like a Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper. And I thought, that is so unbelievably accurate. I can't even. It's like, oh, what was the other? Was it John Hardy? Whatever. That designer and then Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper. Like, that is so perfect. I can't even deal with it. These people clearly do not know how to bounce. Jasmine Crockett was the only one who did it right. And the one chick who's throwing, she's going to break her wrist off. You know why she's got two sprained fingers? Because she throws a punch like a girl. That's why. I mean, none of these people did this right. None of them did. It's so awkward. Why are they so awkward? Just that, well, she almost fell on her face. So bad. This is all they got. You know, I'm going to tell you, the Democrat Party, here's the hurdle. And I know I talked about their machinations for 28, but we talked about that last hour. This is the base of the party that's never going to give it up. You so when they say pick your fighter, they're really saying pick who you want to fight to try to take over the Democrat Party, because that's those are the hardcore progressive freaks that you got to fight through. And some people elect them bizarrely. So that's those are the people that you got to fight. You got to fight through those people. I don't I don't know. That seems they're never going to relinquish control of that party. They've got it. And Democrats are going to have to figure out how to deal with them. I don't know. So a couple of other things that we're going to be getting into as well. If you sign up over at chapter and verse, there's a lot of really good stuff up there. Obviously, Lorraine's got a very timely piece on the activist judges. This one. This is Judge Amir Ali, and we'll talk about him more here coming up. This is the guy who's trying to argue that POTUS doesn't have authority to basically control the Treasury, even though it's under his purview. And he believes that he can order the federal government to spend taxpayer dollars on whatever. Right. All of the waste, fraud and abuse from USAID. And it actually spurred in their dissent. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Thomas and Alito, they said that in this quote, does a single district court judge who lacks who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the government of the United States to pay out and probably lose forever two billion taxpayer dollars? The answer to that question should be an emphatic no. But a majority of this court apparently thinks otherwise. I am stunned. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So Florida's Attorney General has opened a criminal probe into the Taint Brothers. The Tater. Sorry. Tater. Tainter. Right. They were charged with human trafficking in Romania. Aren't there like charges that are actually still like open? Like an investigation still open in the UK? There's a lot here. Anyway, the guy who describes himself as a misogynist and... I think in his dreams, a professional kickboxer, they brag about pimping out women, like all on video. And there's I can't even discuss half of what is because it's so nasty. But anyway, they they're leaving. I guess they're going back to Romania. So they're also leaving. But anyway, that was announced yesterday or the day before. L.A. Times AI tool lasts just one day, one whole day before it generated a sympathetic view of the triple K. right oh my gosh so uh this they said it they had it it said it was called insights and it it had would like have op-eds and give you alternative viewpoints and then literally one day like barely a full 24 hours they had to withdraw it because it started writing defenses of the triple k right uh and they said that yeah well we're gonna have to You're going to have to go back to the drawing board with this one. That's so bad. That's so stupid. Oh, my gosh. An ancient skeleton found in a remote cave could rewrite human history. It's estimated to be 20,000. How many years old? 29. 29,000 years old. That's insane. It's considered the oldest human skeleton ever found. It was in Thailand. And I really hate the Daily Star because the pop-up ads make me want to murder everybody there.
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They say it's like a kid or child or a baby or something.
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Yeah, but it's an old skeleton. I mean, they found it... I don't know how it's going to rewrite human history, though. I mean, it's an old skeleton. It's just, oh, it's real old. There you go. I mean, but it's still a human skeleton. You know, I don't know. McDonald's is giving its restaurants. Oh, everything is AI. An AI makeover. They're using AI to target order accuracy. Can they use AI to fix their stupid ice cream machines? That would be great.
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They can't do that.
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I mean, McFlurry, sometimes you need it. And I'm like, maybe AI could deal with it. But they're giving them a tech makeover. So they want to have internet-connected kitchen equipment, AI-enabled drive-thrus, and AI-powered tools. for managers to improve customer experience and workers who have to deal with like wrong orders and all kinds of stuff. So they're trying to make it, you know, they're trying to streamline their business. I get it. And we talked about Hunter Biden being broke and he's begging people to, I know, to drop his legal issues. And then we also have California. They're considering letting hunting dogs attack bears. I don't know if I would want my dog to fight a bear. But now they said that they want to make it legal for hunters to sick train hounds on bears, revising a state law that prohibits the hounding, the practice of using them, like black bear particularly. Just be careful with the pups. We've got Carol Roth coming up next. Stick with us. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money? A bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor supports your body's response to inflammation. And it doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps to reduce or even eliminate it. and it's safe to take daily. In fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective it is. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Feel better every day, and you'll live better every day. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for only $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this second hour. And you can listen coast to coast, terrestrially, Channel 347, DirecTV and X and Rumble and everywhere else. Welcome back. So we've talked about this, the BlackRock thing. We talked with James Fishback yesterday about the... Don't know if I entirely agree with him while I understand his thought process, the Doge dividend. And then a huge win for one of our friends who regularly appears on the show. This was such a big win. And I honestly don't think that people would really be talking about this had she not. been sounding the alarm on it so much. It's that Corporate Transparency Act, the thing that was forcing small businesses to have to register. And you guys know my good friend Carol Roth. It's Carol J.S. Roth on X and her book, Terrifying, You Will Own Nothing, Your War with a New Financial World Order and How to Fight Back. The recovering investment banker, Haver of Good Hair, joins me now via Skype. Carol, always so good to see you. I just have to say major kudos to you for for this CTA getting the word out about this because I had no idea about this until you started tweeting about it and talking about it. And I'm looking at it like, how did I not even know that this was a thing? I mean, we have accountants. I don't know. I mean, like, how do I even this? I mean, it's scary, but you helped beat it. I give a lot of credit to that to you. So congratulations. Tell people what that means now for business owners. They don't have to file with like the criminal division in the treasury now, right? Yeah.
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Yes, well, first of all, I want to thank you because you are one of the people who've lent a huge voice and platform to this consistently and early. And we've been talking about this for a very long time. This is not something that just sort of happened at the 11th hour, like some of the people trying to take credit for this are saying. The reality is that this has been going on and there are a lot of people in the fight. But basically the treasury has a division called FinCEN which is their financial crimes enforcement network. They go after terrorists and money launderers and cartels and to prevent all that activity. They had the great idea along with Congress that small businesses should just register all the information for everybody who's an owner of their business or who makes a big business decision. Now, of course, financial services companies are exempt and big businesses are exempt because if you're trying to fight money laundering, you would wanna have the mom and pop cupcake shop down the street do that and not like a big business. But the good news is we've been beating the drum, you've been helping on this and Treasury, about a week ago, the 27th of February, came out and said, okay, we're not gonna enforce penalties, because that was the other side. The penalties were jail time and almost $600 a day and increasing. We're not gonna enforce penalties against US citizens, and we're gonna try and narrow the scope on this. And then that Sunday, March 2nd, they came out and said, okay, officially, if you are a US citizen or a US reporting company, that it's off the table, you do not have to do this. If you're foreign owned, too bad, but for US citizens and US businesses that we are not enforcing, you don't have to register, you're not gonna have any penalties and we're narrowing the scope on this, which is great except for the fact that it's not codified because this was something that was passed by Congress. So we wanna celebrate, we wanna get the big win. We wanna thank everybody who's been a part of raising their voice. I mean, I literally wrote a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury and went in front of Congress and all these things. But if Congress doesn't codify this, then the next time we get the next Biden, Kamala, Pete Buttigieg, whoever administration, they're just gonna turn this right back on. So it's very good so far. We do have another step. So you still need to pester your Congress people. And the other thing I've been asking some folks who are liaising with Treasury right now is to purge all the data from the small businesses who went ahead and registered anyway. because that data is subject to hacking or misappropriation or whatever. So we still have a couple little tweaks, but this is really a huge victory for Main Street. And I think it's very consistent with both what President Trump and Treasury Secretary Besant have said. They want to be champions of Main Street and they wanna be champions of deregulation. So checkboxes wins on both of those for Main Street. Thank you for common sense returning. Thanks to everybody again to you, Dana, for the platform. Great news. You don't have to do this now, but let's get this put to bed. Let's kill all the cockroaches in the nest. and not let them come out again in the future.
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Got to make it permanent. Talking with our friend Carol Roth. Okay. I got to ask you about, and I'm going to get into some of this other, we'll talk about the tariffs and then I just need to ask you about the Panama Canal and BlackRock. I had a piece up. I wrote about this at Substack and I literally cited you because you've written about this so many times and you talked about it in your book because they were, I mean, Did something change? This is what I'm trying to understand. Either BlackRock was like the only company that could be prevailed upon by the U.S. government to go in and do this because the national security concern was so great or we like them again. I don't know. I don't know what to think. But I thought, I mean, are they better than the CCP? Are they the CCP? What do you weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 16 :
this is tough so blackrock which is the largest asset manager in the world and has massive scope sometime last year bought a company that invests in infrastructure and through this subsidiary company they saw infrastructure as the next big play I think they saw the writing on the wall that their push for ESG was kind of coming to an end. And they were looking at where the dollars were flowing to. And if you remember, we had that infrastructure pushed by the Biden administration. So hey, we're gonna align ourselves with where the dollars are. And they bought this company that that's what they do. So this was part of a purchase where they purchased not only ports in the Panama Canal, but in a whole bunch of other places. as part of this kind of infrastructure company. So it sounds, cuz we were pushing on this like this was, the government sold them the Panama Canal or something. But it's not that, it's really an infrastructure deal that they were doing independently. And is that better for us? Probably on margin, yes. But it brings into question when you're talking about antitrust, when you're talking about too big to fail, when you're talking about having too much influence. why there's never kind of a focus on the Black Rocks of the world and why they're allowed to have their hands in so many things. So it's definitely something that was eyebrow raising. I saw the headlines that, it was a victory for Trump and just like you Dana and you're writing the eyebrow and I'm like, is that a victory? Yeah, it's probably on margin better, but again, I'm sure a little questionable if they decide to go into some other next generation greenwashing infrastructure, whatever it is that they have up their sleeves. So let's not forget their history, shall we?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, let's not forget the BlackRock background. Talking with our friend Carol Roth. All right. Because I know you've been so busy. This is like headline season for you because the tariff discussion. And I know they're on one day, they're paused the next day. I understand the idea from some of our friends that argue this is just leverage. He's using it as leverage. And I understand that. However... We're trying to get out of being overtaxed. We're trying to get a handle on inflation. This is going to make it difficult. And I felt like during the joint address to Congress that the president could have maybe made that point. You've got to explain it to Americans because it's not that they don't understand it. Some of it gets into the weeds. Some of it, you know, I have to read you to understand. And we just don't want to have to pay higher taxes on stuff when we already are paying higher prices on it because of inflation. And I worry about what this is going to do to midterm chances.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think these are all very valid points. My concern is that what people voted for, like you said, was price stability and general economic stability. And I also understand tariffs when they are surgical. So now we've come in here in a very chaotic manner. The other thing that you and I've talked about before is that there are all of these trip wires in the economy that the Biden administration has kind of left behind because that's such a mess. And so we require this very perfect choreography. We require what I'm calling Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers to neatly dance around this very difficult situation. And I feel like what we've gotten is a bull in a china shop. So, it's a bit of a head scratcher. I understand the first time that he did the tariff threats, totally got it. And we actually made strides, right? We've had the border encounters have fallen off a cliff to the lowest level in years. We can declare a victory and we can move on and we can kind of strengthen our relationships with our closest allies who happen to be our neighbors here to the north and south while we're trying to deal with the China problem. And so the idea now that we're picking these fights on something that frankly really isn't that important to put it in perspective, think about our debt. We have $36.5 trillion in debt and growing. We have spending of $7 trillion, $2 trillion of that is deficit. So that's a wartime deficit, 6 to 7% ish of GDP. And we have all of this going on, our GDP is 29 trillion. And of that, trade to canada our exports are like 350 billion so why are we creating this disruption and all of the you know kind of headaches and chaos and uncertainty at a time when we really should be focused on these other big dogs now the only thing and this may get a little wonky but i'll walk you guys through it yes the only thing i will say is in terms of these trip wires Two of the things that we were looking at that were really an issue at the beginning of the year were the yield on the 10 year treasury was getting into danger zone territory and the dollar index, which is the dollar versus a basket of currencies. We know the dollar is not real strong against a bag of groceries, but against other currencies around the world, it was getting really strong and these were creating issues. for the administration in terms of being able to affect some of the policy changes they needed to and get our deficit down and whatnot. Well, what's happened since that point in time is that the dollar index has fallen pretty substantially. And we've gotten, as of today, probably 50 basis points down on the 10-year treasury as well. So they bought themselves some breathing room But again, going back to the choreography, this is a very careful dance because if all of this tariff talk trips us into a worse financial position, if it brings down the stock market, if it, God forbid, accelerates a recessionary type environment, we're going to take in less. The government's going to take in less, quote unquote, revenue. And even with the Doge spending cuts, that means we could have an equal or bigger deficit to deal with. And so it becomes a no good deed, becomes a punished scenario. And if the tariffs do stick, even though the dollars come down, tariffs do tend to raise the dollar versus other currencies. So it is this just kind of everything tied together, really difficult scenario. And most of the people I know, very serious economic thinkers, understood the first phase, but are not understanding this right now. And we want to be surgical. We want to do things for national defense and things where we're really at risk. But this kind of blanket on everything is very worrisome. And by the way, speaking of that, Small businesses today, Alignable had a survey, 41% of small businesses are worried that they're going to lose revenue because of the tariffs. And that's almost half the economy. So again, not sure about the 4D chess on this one, just saying.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I think I would have at least before even entering. And this is what I didn't understand about the timing or the order of what they were doing. Like, why wouldn't they do tax cuts first and give give America like give Americans like a steroid shot for the lack of a better way to put it? Yes. And then maybe talk about tariffs. I don't I don't know why the timing wasn't better with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you and I are the same page, make the tax cut permanent, do some of the deregulation, juice that side of the economy before we start dealing with these other things. And if you're going to deal with them, do them surgically and focus on China and maybe some of these other places first. and leave our friends over that are next door alone. We have a lot of things that we can do with them. When you think about China, remember that in moving away from China, we've had a lot of people and companies move their manufacturing to Mexico to be in North America and to benefit us we're talking about everything from medical device manufacturers to consumer products manufacturers and of course you know the some of the crowd's going to say well yeah we should move them to the us okay but we can't do that right now and produce at a dollar value that anyone's going to buy them so this is a good interim step this is going to take a while to turn this battleship around we shouldn't be creating chaos For everybody who's made those investments, we should be focused on the other stuff. And then that could be, you know, kind of at the tail end of, you know, once we have things a little bit more settled and we have more of a manufacturing base growing up and all those things, this stuff doesn't happen overnight. So I'm with you. Choreography is just, you know, a little bit chaotic at this point.
SPEAKER 20 :
A little bit. Carol Roth for Treasury Secretary. That's all I'm saying. That's all. Yeah, Secretary Roth. That sounds so nice, doesn't it? Carol Roth, the book is You Will Own Nothing, Your War with the New Financial World Order and How to Fight Back. Find her at carolroth.com slash news. And go there. That's where you can get her free newsletter. It's carolroth.com slash news. Get her free newsletter. Learn some things. Learn math. It's great. Carol, always a pleasure. So appreciate you. Thank you for all you do and making economic illiteracy go away. We appreciate you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Back at you. Thanks so much, Dana.
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There are people who are charged with trying to find savings. So yes, it's an attack on government, but it's also an attack on this government. What I mean by that is it's an attack on this government that used to be headed by a black man. It's an attack on this government that almost elected a black woman to the highest office in the land. It's an attack on a government that has been more welcoming and more supportive of people who have come to this country and search for a better life.
SPEAKER 20 :
OK, so trying to save taxpayer money, according to checks notes, Columbia professor Basil Smickel is racist. That's what he said. Does he know that that Americans of various backgrounds all pay taxes? You know, black Americans also pay taxes. Black Americans also have their tax dollars wasted and abused and involved in fraud. So this argument that saving taxpayer money is racist is actually kind of racist when you think about it. Why is that always the last retreat of these Marxist fools? Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. Coming up, we'll have Attorney General Ken Paxton, the great Republican Texas, joining us. I asked last night, I asked the Internet because I had some rare time to sit down and I was going to watch something. And I went to look and I'm like, I don't have anything on my list. I don't have anything to watch. I have no idea what to watch. The one thing that I was watching was 1923, but I mean, it's like barely cranking out an episode a week and I can't stand that drip drip. And I wanted all of them. I want to binge when I can binge. So I'm like, oh my gosh, what do I? And I've been watching, you guys know since lockdown, my kids got me into anime because everything was horrid. And it was non-woke. And don't stop. Don't roll your eyes. It's not a cartoon. It's like more sophisticated than just like a cartoon. And very non-woke. And it's just really elaborately done. Things you can't do in meat space. Anyway, I was asking for stuff because what popped up when I went and looked on Netflix, you know what show popped up? it wasn't recommended for me. It just said new because they know better than to recommend this. It was at suitcase girl show, the Megan Markle show, her show where she pretends to be a chef. And I wanted to hate watch it because I don't like her. I think she's incredibly disingenuous and I just, there's a whole thing, but I, you know, I don't get into it. I do think that They're wrecks. This show, oh my gosh. I maybe looked at, I couldn't make it through like two minutes, guys. she's not a very good actor. She's a very bad actor. And people have these tells that they give off when you know that they're full of it or that they're not being their authentic selves. And it's just weird. Like this stuff that she says, nobody talks about it. And she, everything that she, I know I'm in a cream colored sweater. Shut up. I'll be back to black later. But everything that she wears is like Nordstrom beige and, And it's like she tries to be stealth wealth, but really doesn't want to be stealthy about it. I mean, she's doing this show. It's supposed to be a cooking show, but she doesn't actually cook. Like the other people cook, and then she just puts her hands all over everything and rearranges it. I watched where she took a bag of pretzels and then dumped it into another plastic bag so that it was prettier and then tied it up and was like, ta-da, chef. You know what? I did this for you because we're friends. Audio sound by 26. I just need you to understand how much I endure for you. Go ahead and do this. Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think anyone in the world knows that Meghan Markle has eaten Jack in the Box and loves it. It's so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know I'm Sussex now. You have kids and you go, no, I share my name with my children. Yes. And that feels so, I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me, but it just means so much to go, this is our family name.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, gosh, please let it pause for a minute. Pause, pause, pause. I can't. Wait a minute. Come back to it. Come back to it. Pause. Sorry, Juan. Juan's going to murder me. First off, she's going to chop her damn fingers off with the vegetables. I can't. But how many beige things can you wear all at once? All of the beige. I say this in a cream-colored sweater. I'm in jeans. Don't judge me. This is the only thing I have that's not black. Stop it. But do you have to wear all of the sweaters? Number one. Number two, that was a... Bitch, you know my name is Sussex. You know that that's what that meant. She was like, it's so funny that you keep saying that. Your name isn't actually Sussex. Isn't it Mountbatten-Windsor? How do I know this? I don't know. Isn't that what the family's name is? Because isn't that when Elizabeth and Philip got married and Philip was mad that he couldn't give his name to his kids and they ended up being Mountbatten Windsor later. That's like actually their last name. County Sussex is the county that she's only been to like one time in her life and they don't even like them. And they they took that as the title. Your title is actually not your last name. But I don't that I can't. OK, go ahead. The cutting of the vegetables makes me nervous.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and that feels so I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me But it it just means so much to go. This is our family name husband and Three dogs. It's not oh my gosh your fingers. What are you doing my bacon?
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm like worried about how she's cutting this stuff to the Variable and it's got a lot of magic in it. Oh
SPEAKER 06 :
I feel like you're watching me fall in love.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's very, very awkward. I'm so sorry I'm blushing. Megan, I want to ask about your look. My who? Your look. Your look, Megan. Oh, my look. Your look. Did I not say it right? I don't know. I'm way cooler than I am. I don't know what you're talking. My look. My look. She likes my look. Your look. Oh, my gosh. Is this the banter from the show?
SPEAKER 20 :
So that was obviously set up. She's wearing a Louis Vuitton denim shirt. That's what the little V is there. And I'm like, seriously, that's like so not stealth wealth. That's like obnoxious. Anyway, what is where's the they like they made kids party bags and they put in a manuka honey stick, some seeds and like a little garden trowel. Like what kid wants that? No kid wants that. You know what kids want? They want garbage pail kids. They want sour patch candy. That's what they want. They want fun stuff. They want like something they can throw at their siblings. That's what they want. And then there was one moment where she said, it's such a delight to be a present parent. and acting like she's so busy. I was rolling my eyes so hard. A friend of mine texted me and said, oh my gosh, I tried to stomach this and I couldn't do it. What is a present parent? You're raising kids. You know how many other people before you have birth children, although some people ask, birth children, raise them or adopt children, raise them. They're present in their children's lives. They're there. I'm a present parent. And then she did this thing where she arranged fruit in a rainbow on the board. Who the hell has time for that? Who has time? I'm going to cut up my fruit. If you love your children as much as I do, you're going to poorly cut the fruit. Maybe put some fingers in there. Poorly cut the fruit and arrange it into a rainbow on a platter. And then she was saying, well, you can just use a large plate. This is like basic bee stuff. I don't know. What the aim of this program was, but it is one of the most cringe things because she is unaware of how horribly she comes off. She thinks the problem is everybody else. It's just so that's not even her house. They rented someone else's house. That's not even her house. She rented this couple's house in Montecito and that's where they filmed it. And so this is not even hers. It's just so terribly inauthentic. And everyone was saying, you're ripping off Pam Anderson because Pam Anderson apparently had a cooking thing. She was ripping off what Flamingo Estate, which is this like small business that's in Los Angeles and they do candles and all this stuff. So she launched these products. She's got a crepe mix and probably some other mass produced, you know, high process stuff. And of course, her jams, her jellies that they had to keep changing the trademark for a million times. I mean, I just, it's just so, this is not relatable. I mean, you can tell that she's not. I think she wants to be seen as being like a lifestyle guru, but you can literally see from her cooking skills in the kitchen that she's not. And it's okay to say that you have people that do this for you. Just be honest about it. Don't try to act to everybody else like this is stuff that you do day in and day out. Because nobody, ladies, can I get an amen? First off, you're not going to have your hair extensions all the way down in the fruit that you're cutting, number one. Number two, ain't nobody wearing white doing tomato sauce. No self-respecting cook is going to wear white and make tomato sauce. This is not happening, especially without an apron. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Like I watched it, watched enough to where I didn't choke to death. And then I just I did this because you guys were tight. Right. And I do this stuff for you as a favor. Don't subject yourself to this. Just scroll on past. It is one of the most inauthentic things I've ever watched in my life. You're not even interested in this stuff, Cain. I just don't know. Like, it wasn't even a proper. Oh, my gosh. So Juan has this. You can't see it, but I can see it in the monitor of her cutting. It's on a loop, her cutting things. And every time I look up, she gets like right there by her fingers. There's so many different parts of the show where she's trying to cut. She was cutting a strawberry. And I legit thought she was about ready to slice her finger off. I just couldn't even watch anymore. I'm like, this is horrible. It's just so inauthentic. And I, oh, look at it. Oh my gosh. What in the world? What is she cutting? Onions. Oh my gosh. And you can see that she's just not even, I don't know. It doesn't look authentic. You're not going to watch this and you like foodie stuff.
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I am uninterested 100% in this.
SPEAKER 20 :
I would much rather watch the chef that she has make her family's food when the cameras aren't there. I would rather watch them do it. And then she can stand on the side and like wear her, you know, Laura Piana, like $2,000 culottes if she wants to. But oh my gosh, I can't even deal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Mindy Kaling, I'm a fan of hers. Are you? She's funny, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
She seems obnoxious.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I like that.
SPEAKER 20 :
No, like in a woke way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, I hate that. But I don't get that about her.
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I think she said interviews and stuff before. And it's just made me not want to watch anything she's in. I'm like, I can't stand people who get off camera and whine. Like you're literally in probably a $1,000 denim shirt. Shut up. Like I'm just not even hearing you. All right. I watched some of it, so you didn't have to. I'm not going to watch all of it. I'm not going to do a whole. I know everybody's doing this big hate watch viewing thing. I can't. I mean, I love you, but not that much. I can't. All right. We got more to hit. We have headlines on the way. And AG Ken Paxton is going to be joining us. Native Path Collagen delivers the two most essential collagen types that your body needs to support strong bones and flexible joints, whether it's for a post-workout recovery or simply supporting your overall health. Native Path Collagen should be your go-to. With type 1 and 3 collagen without unnecessary fillers, you'll enjoy smoother movement, resilient skin, and the confidence that comes with looking and feeling your best. Native Path Collagen will help keep your joints feeling strong and your skin looking smooth. And best of all, Native Path offers incredible bundle deals that let you stock up and save big. You can grab a 3-pack and or even a six pack at a fraction of the price compared to other collagen brands. It's just the perfect way to stay consistent with your daily collagen routine while keeping more money in your pocket. Visit get native path.com slash Dana today and stock up on native path collagen for an incredible 45% off plus free shipping. Every order comes with a 365 day money back guarantee. So you can try it risk-free today.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So, this is ew. A woman was stung by a scorpion in Boston. Boston Logan Airport. She straight up got stung. My youngest son had a pet scorpion. What was it? An emperor scorpion or something like that? Called it Sherman. Because it looked like a tank. It was a black scorpion. They're weird. He wanted a tarantula. I was like, okay, I don't want things that are hairy with lots of legs. Let's not do that. So, we got a scorpion. Anyway. Oh, oh, this is gonna be chills. She totally she got stung. She was collecting her bags. They have no idea where it came from. They they wouldn't say if it was captured or killed or if it's like still crawling around the terminal. They have no idea where it is. I mean, they're not. Okay, this is gonna be a dumb question. And if my son heard it, he would probably literally make fun of me and turn me into a meme. They're not like bees, right? They don't rip our butt out with our stinger and we're dead. No, I don't think so. Okay, thanks. So they're trying to find it. They had some experts come out, but they're like, we're not too worried about it. I mean, I guess if you're OK and it's just mildly discomforting, that's OK. I mean, I can live with that, but it's still gross. What in the world? Why is this a story? They've been studying this. A percentage of people who pee in the shower has now been leaked in a new study. That's the headline. OK, I don't. A quarter of Americans do it on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really?
SPEAKER 20 :
They have indoor plumbing, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'd be lying if I said I never did it.
SPEAKER 20 :
I don't need to know this about you.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm just saying. I don't know how common it is. 25% seems like a lot.
SPEAKER 20 :
That seems like a lot. But they said in the course of an average year, they said 30% of men do it regularly. 20% of women, according to this survey, this is the New York Post, a quarter of millennials say it's a daily practice. Thankfully, Gen Xers are like 13%. That's and in total, 45 percent of Americans relieve themselves in the shower throughout the course of the. I'm sorry, but wasn't there another story that talked about men and do they actually wash their legs and feet or do they let the soap drip down? So I've got like a million. This does not like it. Maybe that's how you shower. Then maybe definitely use the toilet. You know what I'm saying? Like, why is this? Let's not let's not evolve backwards. Let's not do that. A man is suing his brother-in-law after he filled his belly button with super glue. The man says he's filed a legal claim against his brother-in-law. It was a prank. He poured super glue into his belly button while he slept. And the man says that he and his wife and family are furious. They took him to small claims court. He felt like he had no choice. They were at a family barbecue, ate a few too many beers, fell asleep without a shirt on, blah, blah, blah. His brother-in-law thought it would be hilarious. And he said it partially dried and it was stuck. They adhered to the skin. It was horrible. $1,000 copay for emergency room visit, $2,200 medical bill. He asked the brother-in-law to cover the cost. The brother-in-law refused. I got to feel like the brother-in-law is in the wrong here. Sorry. You need to help pay up, dude. Because that's lame. And also, don't get drunk and fall asleep in a hammock around family like that. What is the matter with you? Trust no one. You know, even at a family event, at a family barbecue. Because, you know, I feel like maybe you've probably done something like this before. I am not reading this last story, Cain. Thank heavens. Attorney General Kim Paxton is coming in to save the day because I'm not going to tell you about this Missouri man who tried to have a romantic evening with a train seat. Not making it up. Stick with us. Heaven help. Our partners that help bring you this program, Gold Co. You guys know I love gold and silver. It's tangible. And during the president's first term, gold surged 53 percent, silver 51. Precious metals could potentially break new records in 2025. So protect your wealth with gold and silver today. They stand the test of time. At DanaLikesGold.com, you can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, maybe even more. Safeguard your savings with this free 2025 gold and silver kit. Visit danalikesgold.com, join the thousands who've already called GoldCo the number one rated gold company, and you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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SPEAKER 18 :
That's been true up until this point, but we're seeing such a rapid retreat in these first 45 days. Like I said, it's an abomination. I'm hard-pressed to think of a worse 45 days self-inflicted by any administration in this country's history.
SPEAKER 20 :
So that's Representative Vindman. If you wanted the opinion of someone that's pretty much mostly irrelevant outside of their district, then that's who you would ask. You would ask. He says it's the worst 45 days in American history. I don't know. I feel pretty great about it. I feel I feel like these are really good days right now. So. I can't share that sentiment. You know who else I know thinks that these are really good days? He was just at the border with the VP. It is our Attorney General Ken Paxton from the Great Republic of Texas. Now, I got to tell you, the general is so easygoing. He's like, yeah, I'm having lunch. Oh, I got to do this interview. Let me just pop over here and, you know, talk to my friend Dana because, you know, we're almost best friends. Let's go ahead and talk. And he's just so easygoing. General, it's good to see you. Appreciate you joining.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good to see. How did you know? How did you read my mind and know that I thought it was a great 45 days?
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, I could I could tell I'm feeling that energy. It's just it's different. It feels I feel like people are in a happier mood. They can exhale, you know, because there is nothing so bad as having lived through four years of Biden or whoever Biden was being run by.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, just knowing that everything's bad. I mean, whether you look at the border, whether you look at the disaster that happened overseas with Afghanistan and our relationships with China and Iran and all the war in Ukraine, and of course, inflation, runaway spending. I mean, I can't, I try, I try to find good in everything. Hard to find any good in the Biden administration from what I can tell you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. You were just at the border with SecDef, DNI and also the governor and the vice president of the United States to talk about the ongoing efforts to get the border secured because Texas is really led here. What was the reaction of the new cabinet when you when you all were meeting down there? What was their reaction?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it was it was pretty amazing. First of all, I thank the vice president for actually showing up. We've been waiting a long time for a vice president to show up on the border and we were glad to have him. So I told him that. And I think it's just remarkable that all they've done is enforce existing law. Everybody talks about, you know, Biden would say, well, I can't do anything because I don't have I don't have the right laws in place. Well, you know that when Trump was there before, he enforced existing law. was successful in maintaining a secure border, we know that the same laws applied to Biden, and he somehow couldn't manage those laws and actually ignore those laws and help the cartels do everything they wanted. And then here we are 45 days later. Yesterday was 44 when they showed up. And we're down to like 8,000-something crossings a day versus 140,000 last year in the same month.
SPEAKER 20 :
That is insane. Down to 8000. I mean, that's I mean, it's still I know like reasonable people are like that's still a high number. But compared to what we've seen previously, it's like a drop in the bucket compared to what it was. What did you make of POTUS going after the cartels with his CEO saying these are the cartels that we're going to treat as, you know, essentially terrorists? And then Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, seemingly coming out and really wanting to defend the cartels against what was being said. That was wild. What do you make of that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first of all, the president is targeting the right group. And Biden targeted the right group. When he came into office, he didn't wait a month or two months. First day, he told the world. And of course, he was announcing this to the cartels. We're not going to deport anybody. Why would you announce that unless you wanted the cartels to bring people to the board? And that's exactly what was going on. He enabled the cartels. He enriched the cartels. He made them stronger. because they made billions while he was in office. Now the president of the United States, Donald Trump, he recognizes this. He's targeting them as terrorist organizations, which they are. And of course, the cartels have made so much money. They're so influential in the Mexican government. That is an issue that we're going to be dealing with because an ongoing problem, largely because the Biden administration powered the cartels and made them stronger.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I'm really I'm very excited to see the difference in there. Maybe maybe I don't know. Maybe it's just going to in addition to the decreased crossings. I don't know. Maybe we're actually going to get a handle on the fentanyl coming across the border and the human trafficking. I feel like finally, for the first time in ages, we're in a good position to do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, this is the reason that he's implementing these tariffs because the Mexican government has not only aided and abetted cartels in getting people here and not stopping it, they've also aided and abetted the cartels moving fentanyl and killing thousands of our kids every year. So that's a really bad thing that the Biden administration encouraged with their actions openly. And it's a really bad thing that the Mexican government is doing. And I'm grateful to the president for looking at the lives of our children
SPEAKER 20 :
Amen to that. We're talking with Attorney General Ken Paxton of the Great Republic of Texas. General, you also spoke out and you were very much behind Dr. Ethan Haim. And this is the Texas Children's Hospital. This is the craziest story. I mean, you have a whistleblower who's, you know, letting everybody know what is happening at Texas Children's Hospital with regard to this. It's experimentation. I mean, the transitioning, it's just experimentation on minors. And now with with the executive orders coming in from the administration, obviously we're on new footing. Tell me about this, because you've you really helped fight this and you tweeted about it. You, I think, used everything that you had in your bag to throw at this. How do you feel about it now? I mean, obviously, you know, he's in the right and he's been proven so.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. They basically federal government now it's turned and come to a reasonable position, which think about it. We don't let kids, we don't let minors under 18 sign contracts. We don't let them go into the military. We don't let them get married. We don't let them do all kinds of things. We don't let them use tobacco. We don't let them drink alcohol. And yet somehow we can give them permission and you know, 14 or 15 or 16 to change their bodies in a way that's irreparable and dramatically infect affects their future. Well, we know that their brain development isn't giving them the capability to make the best decisions that they're going to need to make their whole lives. So, I mean, this is ridiculous that this is even something that the federal government was engaged in. Harming a guy that was exposing basically people that were doing bad things in Texas under our laws are wrong. So I'm very encouraged by the fact that we have an administration that has some common sense and that actually cares again about children as opposed to, you know, these doctors making a lot of money.
SPEAKER 20 :
I it feels like it just was some of the weirdest thing reading about this doctor being persecuted and prosecuted by the federal government for doing no harm, for doing no harm. I mean, that's, you know, part of the oath that they take. So I'm so glad that, you know, and of course, you were right there fighting the whole time, which brings me to this question. So when are you running for Senate?
SPEAKER 05 :
So I'm actually, I've done some polling. It's outstanding. I'm looking right now to getting some commitments on the fundraising side, make sure I have enough money. You know, we all know that John Cornyn has been there for 23 years and hasn't done the things that Texas wanted to do, as opposed to doing things that we don't want to do, like restricting guns, which Joe Biden congratulated on and Donald Trump criticized him on. And he's not been supportive of building a wall, although he's plenty supportive of giving Ukraine billions of dollars and helping their security. So I am definitely looking at this. I'm just trying to get all my ducks in a row and make sure that I've got the resources I need to go out and take on a guy that's going to have a lot of money in Washington, D.C. and what we call the swamp.
SPEAKER 20 :
So like summer, maybe like late spring, summer. That's when you're probably going to announce then. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what we're looking at right now.
SPEAKER 20 :
He is not. He's like, no, I'm not even dealing with this. I have one more question before I let you go. We're talking with we're talking with the attorney general, maybe senator. I tried. You know, I was trying. He's not going to give me an inch on that. That's all right. That's all right. We'll talk again soon. I wanted to ask you, we talked about Texas Children's Hospital. So that's. tch and then now there's the thc a bill that's working its way up it's i think it's sb3 and it's talking about uh the way that i understand that the criminalization of thc that's already is it it's already legal i mean obviously it's already legal in texas i think that chemical compound and i don't i don't ask this as someone who's like a marijuana person I just I you know how I am with big government and after everything with COVID and the quote unquote vaccines, I get real nervous about stuff. Where do you stand on this bill? Because I have I we have a lot of people in the audience that are veterans. And I know that a lot of them rely on this as like a non psychotropic thing. I just what are your thoughts on this? And what's the understanding behind it?
SPEAKER 05 :
So I don't know the details of this bill. 5,000 bills going through the House and Senate. It's hard to keep up with every one unless it relates to something I'm working on, which we have many of those issues. But generally supportive of things that can help people that are not addictive and that don't do harm. So, you know, this is a bill that helps our veterans deal with health issues in a way that's not detrimental to their health. I'm all for it.
SPEAKER 20 :
So you're not like against the THC stuff. And I know different states are grappling with that issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm against things that hurt. I don't like to see things that are allowed that our kids get addicted to and end up being long-term harm. But we're talking about medical use for something that does something good for these veterans that are maybe in pain. I've been in pain before, and when you're in that situation, you may be pretty desperate to resolve that pain. And if there's something that can do that, I want people to really get help.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and that's definitely – and I think people are – I think they pay way more attention to these types of issues now, especially after everything that we saw under the Biden administration with the vaccine mandates and everything. They're just – people get a little – I think they start asking questions now when the government gets involved with consumption of different things. And then it becomes like I think it's separate from like the deregulation of marijuana as a whole, I guess, because of how it's delivered. I that that's a that's a discussion for another time. But I'm glad to hear you say that if it's helpful and if it helps with veterans and that's something that you're that you're in favor of. General Paxton. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I would say absolutely. We've got to take care of our veterans. They've given so much to our country. If they're in pain, we've got to figure out how to help them.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. We'd love to have you back, especially as you get closer to making a decision on that Senate race, General.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. How about this? I'll come talk to you first.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, you heard it. I'm going to hold you to that. That is a promise made. We're going to play it relentlessly. That is a promise made. Attorney General Kim Paxton, always a pleasure. Thank you, sir. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Go have lunch. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
This is why I love the crew on our program because we're talking about different things. And I'm like, yeah, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy running for governor in Ohio came up and I had read something. Don't laugh at me, dear heavens. I read something about like a football guy who might, who's, you know, also considering a gubernatorial run in 2026. And I was trying to remember his name and Google it. And I'm talking to Kane and Steve and I was like, yeah, he's a football guy. I think he's a player. I don't know. He's a football guy. And I Googled it, and then I was like, oh, it's Jim Trestle. And they both exploded like, oh, Jim Trestle. Like, he's their dad. You know, they both were, Kane and Steve were like, yeah, Jim Trestle. Like, yeah, he was just over the other night. Like, that level of, like, knowledge and almost excitement.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we had cigars.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, and then you guys were telling me about Ohio State being super popular even outside of Ohio because apparently Trestle was the former football coach there. So judging by your guys' reaction, he's a very popular gentleman.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's hard to think that Vivek would win if Trestle's in there and running for governor against Vivek. I would have a hard time believing that Vivek would win that.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's fascinating to me. So see the confluence of football and politics. But yeah, I mean, I guess if you've been in that role and everybody's loved you and you've delivered for them, in some ways it sort of is, yeah, I guess it's a little bit like politics in a way. And then you take that favorability over to a gubernatorial run. Golly, the earned media on that is insane. Exactly. That is great. You almost become unbeatable. That's going to be very interesting if he gets in. Because I think he's, they keep, there was like one day ago, NBC4, they were speculating about his potential success. Jim Trestle's potential run so far. He hasn't said anything when they never say anything. Like when we had Paxson on, we're like, you're going to run for Senate. You do. He's running. Come on. God love. He's, he knows. And he's going to come on and tell him on the show, but you know, he's like, um, it's a formality at this point for him saying, well, we're going to wait and, uh, you know, next sport. That's going to be a fascinating primary. The primary will be the general in that regard. Uh, but Trestle, he was appointed, uh, Mike DeWine, blah, blah, blah. He's, um, He said previously he was too busy to contemplate a run for governor. But now, I don't know. He's just seems like it's something that he may consider, but he's being very tight, very tight lipped about it. Do you think he would be a good governor, Jim Trussell? I mean, if he's loved as a coach, that must mean he did something right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly. I mean, you're looking like you pretty much headed off a nice team effort there, right? And when you're in Congress, you want to be able to play along with your team and those against you in a way that's strategic for your constituents.
SPEAKER 20 :
So, Steve, for your age demo, how do you compare Ramaswamy to Trestle?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I was a little before. It was a little early 2000s. Trestle was around because he left and Urban Meyer showed up and Urban Meyer was really successful too. But for a lot of those NFL guys, Urban Meyer was their guy. I mean, sorry, Jim Trestle was their guy. He was one of the best coaches of all time. So we'll see.
SPEAKER 20 :
Interesting. So that would be a very interesting primary too, wouldn't it? I wonder if that's why he's getting in it or almost why he's getting in it so early. Kind of stake out your claim because that's kind of what you do at least in the state level. Very interesting indeed. So tomorrow... We've got we got we got some fun stuff planned. So John Burke, who is a commentator and he's involved. I just find this fascinating, this whole thing of veterans with PTSD and then trying to have like more holistic approaches. And he's involved in a lot of the I keep wanting to say TCH. There's a lot of letters there. The THC that I'm turning into my mother, the pot chemical. Anyway, he's been pretty outspoken about that. We're going to talk with him. And, of course, we're following up with all these EOs because POTUS is expected to sign some more EOs today, particularly as it pertains to the Department of Education. So we're going to have all of that for you as well. Today in stupidity, Cain.
SPEAKER 21 :
all right it looks like uh columbia professor basil smickel is it smith what a name i know basil smickel basil smickel well this is you have to be a professor he's convinced this is the issue listen there are people who are charged with trying to find savings so yes it's an attack on government but it's also an attack on this government what i mean by that is it's an attack on this government that used to be headed by a black man It's an attack on this government that almost elected a black woman to the highest office in the land.
SPEAKER 11 :
Holy cow, talk about the yoga stretch to inject race into the argument.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Major chaos erupts on the House floor. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Seculo.
SPEAKER 05 :
Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. We do have some breaking news, though, Will. We'll play the clip. This happens, obviously, on the heels of President Trump's speech. And you had Al Green. who kind of made his statement, who caused chaos and ruckus early on in the speech. It actually felt like it was going to set the tone for the speech where you eventually had to have Mike Johnson kick him out, officially get someone to take him out. Now, There are consequences with this. This is not uncommon. Cause I even asked those questions myself said, Hey, well what happens in this situation? Typically what happened when the guy yelled you lie and you said this was the same thing, but the difference is, is the way the Democrats are acting, unlike the way Republicans are acting, which is just to take your consequence, which is barely anything for that matter, barely anything, but in deal with it. Instead you had a politically motivated show that happened on the floor.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. So there are three punishments the House of Representatives has for their members when they have bad behavior, in their opinion, expulsion, which is what happened to Congressman George Santos, kicked out of the Congress. You have censure and then you have reprimand. This was a censure vote. It is where there is a resolution passed that basically shames you for your behavior. And then afterwards, if it passes, you stand in the well and the Speaker reads it publicly into the record with you standing there. When you say the well. That's the upfront part of the House of Representatives floor. Making sure people know. But I think we should play it here. What happened after it passed when Speaker Johnson was about to read the censure resolution?
SPEAKER 01 :
On this vote, the yeas are 224, the nays are 198, with two answering present. The resolution is adopted. Without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. The House will come to order, the House will come to order. Will Representative Green present himself to the will? By its adoption of House Resolution 189, the House has resolved that Representative Al Green be censured, that Representative Al Green forthwith present himself in the well of the House of Representatives for the pronouncement of censure, and that Representative Al Green be censured with public reading of this resolution by the Speaker.
SPEAKER 05 :
Stinging there. And of course, Will, you put in that the vote was 224 to 198 to Cintra Al Green. Again, this is sort of the standard. You may say, hey, freedom of speech, you can do what you want. And look, there are moments where I also think you've got to play politics. And was this the best move politically? I'm not sure for the Republicans. Maybe move on. But I get that this is sort of industry standard. This is the practice that they do. It is a very minimal amount of scrutiny, if you will. And of course, they turned it into a moment. And that is something you always have to be thinking about when you also are working in the media and you're working with something. It's become the number one story now on television. It's become the number one story that we're talking about today. Was that the best move or was the best move to show the successes that were happening from President Trump, show the successes that were happening around the world or even what's going on? I want to hear from you. What do you think about this moment? 1-800-684-3110. Again, 1-800-684-3110. We're also going to continue our conversation and our rollout of our Choice Begins Here campaign because we have uncovered also a similar program happening now in the state of California. And speaking of California, coming up next, our friend Rick Grinnell, great special envoy, former director of national intelligence, former ambassador to Germany. And of course, a member of the Sekulow broadcast team for a number of years now. He's going to be joining us as well. So feel free to put in your questions or comments for him. But support the work of the ACLJ. We are in the middle of our Life and Liberty Drive. Actually, just the very beginning of our Life and Liberty Drive. And you can be a part of that. Of course, our focus is life right now as we roll out our new campaign in the state of Massachusetts. And now it looks like we maybe need to take it to California. We can do that with your help. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines, as I said, are open at 1-800-684-3110. Rick Grinnell's joining us, of course, member of the ACLJ broadcast team, part of Sekulow here. Rick, I just wanted to get your thoughts on this. We just had a bit of chaos breakout, which seems to be now becoming more common and common. And of course, this was over the censoring of Al Green after the outburst and the removal of him during President Trump's speech. We just played the clip. People just saw it. Just wanted to get your thoughts.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, I think what we're recognizing here is that the Democrats have no plan. They don't know how to respond. They're actually making it easy for Republicans right now because their messaging feels old. It feels ineffective. And I think, you know, the attacks on Elon, the attacks on President Trump publicly at the State of the Union, all of these things are really making the Democrats just look like whiners and people who are being forced to defend massive waste at USAID or massive waste in the federal government. And I think They're rudderless at this point. They've got to figure out what their message is. There are certain Democrats that are beginning to try, whether it's James Carville or Seth Moulton. People are getting frustrated with the Democratic leadership. Remember, too, though, that they just picked new leaders a couple of weeks ago for the Democratic Party. And the reality is, is they picked people who are in that same woke cancel culture mode. So they haven't learned their lesson yet that America looks at Washington and says, we want progress. We want you to cut the budget. We want more power to the people. And the Democrats are left to kind of, you know, do videos about kickboxing. And it's truly, I think, ineffective.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and Rick, what we said yesterday was that the Democrats, my entire life, kind of had a corner on the market of being the cool party. They had Hollywood behind them, celebrities, and they would go to the Met Gala and make a splash. And so they, for a while, were kind of the cool party for decades. but the Republicans were the ones that had good policy and that were wanting to move the country in the right direction. But it seems like they've lost even that. The one thing that maybe they had a corner in the market on, because you saw the behavior at the joint address before Congress, and then even the way that they disrupted the proceedings of the Congress today. which would have been called an insurrectionist move, I believe, if it were Republicans that tried to stop the business of the House in that manner. But you look at this group and you can't help but think it's like they've lost any of the swagger that they may have been able to have. President Obama, when he was able to be a celebrity president to some degree because he He appealed to people. He was a good speaker. He had that kind of you wanted to hang out with him sort of vibe. They don't have any of that left. And it really brings the question, how would they even be able to rebuild from this?
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, I think when you look at the representatives in Congress for the Democrats or in the Senate, they are having a problem in that there's a lot of long-term older representatives that have not been able to keep up with the hip brand that the Democrats had in the past. It's not the party of Bill Clinton anymore. I don't think Bill Clinton could actually get the nomination for the Democratic Party. But you do have senators like John Ossoff, for instance, who is young, who is trying to be hip. But when you look at his voting record, he has voted with the far left. every single time. He hasn't been able to step away from the Chuck Schumer demands of voting far left. And I think that's their problem. Look, someone like Seth Moulton from Massachusetts has tried. He's tried to step out and say, you know, I don't think that we're going down the right road. Rahm Emanuel has said the same thing. There are people trying, but they're not the power base of the Democratic Party in Congress. The power base of the Democratic Party is Al Green. It's people who are... doubling down on the cancel culture and the ineffectiveness. And so there needs to be a reckoning of the Democratic Party leadership. They need to figure out what their message is. They need to figure out who the messengers are. But one thing, you know, I'm old enough to know that we went through this as Republicans a couple of times after Mitt Romney's loss to Obama. We had a real come to Jesus about who we are and who's going to be the messengers. And one of the problems that the Democrats face is that the media doesn't demand that they do this. The media was demanding every day that the Republican Party needs to change or it's going to go away. They pounded us. They talked about how dodgy and old and ineffective we were. The media are not doing that to the Democrats. You watch MSNBC, you look at the New York Times, and they are protecting this ineffective Democratic machine. Again, I go back to what I said in the beginning. It's helpful to Republicans. When we see this ineffective messenger and message from the left, I'm not... too mad about it. I think it's one of those things that's really helping Republicans and helping Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
You'd think, though, that the consumer, honestly, if you want to count the voter as the consumer, would eventually drive this, but we've seen it even in Hollywood where we know that the consumer is saying, this is not what we want, but there are people entrenched who are just making the decisions that are deciding we are going to cite weirdly as big corporations, we are going to side with ideology or pushing something over what our base wants. I mean, we've seen it with family entertainment. specifically you'd think that would kind of play back into politics as well now you have people trying to shake that up and change it because they see eventually their bottom line uh getting lower and lower and lower you'd think that would happen in washington dc too we're sure maybe the people that are making the most noise uh the people that were part of the squad all of those names sure they may be your uh people you put up on the media side but when everyone has to fall in and agree with some of the more radical nature of this, you're going to lose people. And at some point, do you not have to just go, this is not what our voter wants, therefore we should not be doing this?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think, look, the Republicans figured that out. They figured out that Washington, D.C. is the problem, and they're running against Washington, D.C., and they're running for the rest of America. And the Democrats haven't done that. The leaders of the Democratic Party are all Washington experts. You don't have a lot of the governors in the Democratic Party rising up. There's not individual mayors or people outside of Washington saying, you know, we want Washington to be smaller. Remember, the Democratic Party message is Washington, D.C. is the best, the biggest and the brightest, and it should control your life. Republicans are the ones that are saying, let's make Washington smaller. Let's let people decide their own future. and their own lives. And that's more popular outside of D.C.
SPEAKER 05 :
We were having this conversation yesterday. I was talking with Will and some other members of our team here. And it just feels like that weight that a lot of these elected officials or even some of the appointed positions, it feels like a lot of that weight has changed. And I mean that in a good way, in the sense of no longer are everyone who is in Washington, D.C. held up as heroes or icons or as above us, superheroes, if you will. Now we're actually able to see a bit behind the curtain. And I think it's good for the American people to do that. Maybe it also encourages more people to get involved because you go, oh, if they can do it, then certainly I could try.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think there's no question that what's happening in Washington, D.C., what happened at the State of the Union, is proving to the American people that Washington, D.C. is out of touch and not what they want. Remember, people want a budget that is small. People want to make sure that politicians aren't supporting waste, fraud, and abuse. It feels like the Democrats are defending waste, fraud, and abuse right now. They're talking about trans mice.
SPEAKER 05 :
and whether or not that that's a good program the rest of america just thinks that's a waste and they can't believe someone's defending it rick thanks so much obviously for joining us again we always appreciate your analysis and thoughts and i wanted to take another moment as we head into a break to encourage you to support the work of the aclj because in the next segment you're going to hear about our new campaign that we're running in massachusetts and hey with rick yeah we're they're all seeing similar efforts happen in california we're going to break that down as well We ran or running an ad campaign right now in the state of Massachusetts that you help fund, but we only have the budget to run it for a few months and we are fighting against their campaign. The state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts state, their aggressive multimillion dollar smear campaign against pregnancy resource centers. We are also seeing how AI is playing into that. We'll get into that as well. And how AI is telling you to avoid these, what they call anti-abortion centers, pro-life pregnancy centers, crisis pregnancy centers, whatever you want to call it. But that's why we launched our choices. Our choice begins here campaign. Because it's going to spread hope and provide resources for women in need. It's going to save lives. And we think it's already done that because we can see the traffic going to that website from the state of Massachusetts and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have. And that's amazing. That's not a website you go to to make a donation. That's a website you go to to get information if you are in need. And I'm glad we were able to provide that. And hopefully we'll continue to grow that across the country. But right now we need your financial support and all donations are doubled. So go to ACLJ.org. Again, ACLJ.org and have your gifts doubled during our Life and Liberty Drive. Again, we are battling this with a first in the nation event. approach we are taking it very different than we've ever done before and we can't do it without you so right now help join us in the fight go to aclj.org we'll be right back Welcome back to Secular. We are going to continue our discussion also on the current moment that happened right now as you saw Al Green be censured and the protest against it that happened. We have a phone call on that. I want to take that real quick and then we're going to move on and talk a little bit about our pro-life campaign. If you want to call in and talk about any of these topics, 1-800-684-3110. We're also going to talk about the ultimatum. that President Trump laid out to Hamas could not have been stronger. Pretty amazing moment if you have been a supporter of the state of Israel. But Joel, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, how y'all doing? I appreciate what you're all doing too, man. Thank you for your hard work. I think I heard a comment earlier that you're not sure if it was a good look to go after Al Green or reprimand him or whatever that they do as far as a protocol. I think it is. I think it's definitely something that you should pay some sort of penalty for, whatever was in the realm of their rules, because only so often it seems like people would do things and nothing would happen to them and get away with it, which involves them to even do more. You know, and I challenge people. I said, tell me one thing, positive. That the Democrats have accomplished. Just give me one and we'll have a conversation. And that's kind of where the conversation stops.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. I don't disagree with you. I was posing the question to me. I look at everything from the media point of view and I look at everything from if you want to say a marketing point of view. And is that the story that you wanted out there today? Is that the number one story? Because the Democrats, as Will said, though they have come off as sort of the, I don't want to say this, the nerds in the room, they've come off a little bit more lame than they used to. And we have the biggest names in podcasting, it seems like, on our side here. And you have people who are maybe the biggest influencers, like a Joe Rogan, or you have the Paul brothers, or whoever it may be, that actually are influencing a younger generation for the first time in a long time. What I more say is, do you really want... I think that the censoring is... Standard practice. It should happen. But the show that went on because of it is the detriment because you're giving another clip. You're creating another clip for them to use and honestly paint it as a racial moment. Painting it when you start saying we shall overcome and you start having these moments. It starts to create the narrative that it's just another easy thing for them to point to. And that's my concern with it. I have nothing to do with the actual procedure. I think the procedure should happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's more thinking five steps ahead. Well, and I think, and this is where you and I, I agree with your analysis, but I agree with Joel as well, that I think it was the right thing to do. 10 Democrats also believed it was the right thing to do because they voted with the Republicans on the censure. I think that there are people within that party that realize it wasn't a good look. That is the first time a member of Congress has been removed from a joint session like that. And that it doesn't need to become the norm. And so you do need to show the repercussions that when you take that now, I also think there should be a censure vote for every one of those that tried to disrupt the proceeding that that got up there and stood around him and sang loudly so that they couldn't move on with the people's business. But, you know, you're also seeing that there were people like David Axelrod who was saying what Al Green did was deplorable or despicable, that he should not have done that. And then you see John Fetterman. He's tweeting out a sad cavalcade of self-owns and unhinged petulance. It only makes Trump look more presidential and restrained. We're becoming the metaphorical car alarm that nobody pays attention to, and it may not be the winning message. That was responding to the behavior of the entire House Democratic caucus, the way they behaved during the speech. And so while I understand your concerns about giving them a media moment again, I also think there's a large portion of America When we talked about 76% in that CBS poll that approved of President Trump during that message, it's also going to be a reminder of how poorly the Democrats came across, and then they doubled down on that bad behavior two days later. So I think there's also that angle you could look at that they're not doing themselves any favors trying to make it be like they are the righteous warriors standing up because protesting during a speech like that and not honoring the decorum, that's them rejecting the democratic norms that our country is founded upon. Yeah. Maybe we need a little bit of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe we need a little bit of shaking it up. Maybe we need to actually make this a bit more of a spectacle. I sat there and when that moment happened, it made me nervous, especially coming off of two assassinations attempts to President Trump. When there starts being chaos erupting, that got to me and I felt uncomfortable watching it. but i'm also okay with our elected officials actually going in there representing their people and doing what needs to get done and sometimes that's getting everyone a little worked up sometimes that's rabble rousing a little bit sometimes we may be a little take a little cue from our friends of the united kingdom where things get a little crazier uh in the parliament i'm not saying that's a good thing but i saw a lot of you cheering that on when there was the whole uh speaker of the house situation when that all went down a few years ago with mccarthy And of course there was Matt Gaetz and all of them causing a stink. And I'm like, I don't think this is very nice. And a lot of people said to me, we don't want nice anymore. So you know what? Pick your poison here. Which one are we going to do? Are we going to get into the point where this is old school America? where you're like, you know, when I mean old school, I mean like hundreds of years ago now, where, you know, we're just- 1700s. We're going to write some real, real mean papers that we're going to release. And we'll send, you know, someone will have a different pin name, but we'll all know it was you, Hamilton.
SPEAKER 03 :
We'll know it was you.
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benjamin franklin oh man like when we need to get back to that give me a call i want to know 1-800-684-3110 we were supposed to talk about choice begins here campaign i'm gonna bump that to the next segment that feels a little inappropriate to move from here to there uh but i do want to hear from you there are thousands of you watching right now and when i know when i see thousands that means there's a lot of people that have never seen me before hello welcome to secular will haynes is joining me he's our executive producer we had rick grinnell on earlier We're gonna have one of our senior attorneys. That's right, we also have an entire legal side to this. It's not just a show. We actually take care of business. We actually get stuff done. So if you're new here, I'm going to ask you to hit that subscribe button. We've got 467,000 plus on YouTube alone. Some of you are watching on Rumble. Some of you are watching on the Salem News Channel. We do this show each and every day from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern time. You work your way back from where you are. And of course, you can watch it later on archived on the ACLJ app, on ACLJ.org, on YouTube, on Rumble, on any of the platforms you get podcasts. You can find us there. But I'm going to encourage you right now. Three lines just filled up. We've got three lines still open. Some people think this is a rerun. This is not a rerun today. They think it may be. This is where it gets confusing because we're talking about the censure of Al Green. Right. Which is based on what happened a few days ago at that not State of the Union address. Okay. Even Rick said it was the State of the Union.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think we should just get away with it not being the State of the Union. Let's just, anytime you enjoy a session of Congress and the President speaks, just call it the State of the Union. It's so much less complicated.
SPEAKER 05 :
S-O-T-U. So too. So too. Man, this is going to be a fun second half hour coming up. I want you to join us, but I also want you to support the work of the ACLJ while you're at it. If you like this show, if you like what we do here, maybe you've been around for a while. You know the incredible work that our team does, our legal team, our media team. Or maybe you just like this show. That's okay, too. Maybe you just like us showing up in your Instagram feed. That's great. But you know what? We're not funded by major sponsors here. We're not funded by a bunch of, you know, fat cat billionaires who make humongous donations. If you are one of those fat cat billionaires, please send me an email. We'd be happy to talk about it. But we are funded by individual donations in ACLJ Champions. Those are people that give $25, $45, $75, and allow you to give on a monthly basis. And I encourage you to do that right now. Scan the QR code on your screen, donate during our life on Liberty Drive. Even if you become an ACLJ Champion, that's a monthly recurring donor, your first donation is doubled. And not you, you don't get charged double. Someone out there, another ACLJ supporter or champion, has pledged to match that donation. So that's how that works. Again, that's at ACLJ.org. We have a second half hour of the broadcast coming up. We're going to talk about Israel. We're going to talk about life and continue this discussion as well. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 04 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is Logan Sekulow. Welcome to the second half hour of Sekulow. For today, Will Haines joining me in studio. CeCe Heil will be joining us later on. Rick Grinnell already was on, so you can go back and watch that later on. He did a great analysis of what's going on in Washington, D.C. I did want to take a minute here as we kick off this show to tell you about Our campaign, Choice Begins Here, is our new pro-life campaign inspired by my trip to Massachusetts where I saw these ads running specifically against pro-life pregnancy resource centers, or as they call them, anti-abortion centers. They're running these ad campaigns saying, you can't trust, don't go in there, avoid them, they'll mislead you. And of course, when I looked at it closely, I realized it was coming from taxpayer money. It was coming from a mass.gov website. It was shocking and disturbing. And I immediately got our team into action. We filed lawsuits. We're in court over it. But I said, that's not enough. We got to take this to the streets just like they did. So we have an ad campaign. It has rolled out over the last week and we have seen hundreds and hundreds of people go. And again, this isn't to go after the state of Massachusetts. This is to also target the mothers in need, the future mothers in need with no shame. It's as it says in the ads, no shame or no pressure. And we're encouraging people to go to these pro-life pregnancy resource centers instead of going to abortion clinics because they give you the real choice. And They provide a lot of options, including food, including diapers, clothes. We had a caller yesterday who said they paid for their child's first birthday. A lot of these are volunteer run by the sweetest people you've ever met. And of course, this smear campaign by the state has really taken its toll on them. They have seen a 30% decline in people coming in through their doors and a 30% rise in abortions throughout the state. So I want to play you our brand new ad. I've been rolling out an ad each and every day. So let's see today's Choice Begins Here ad. Again, these are running throughout the state right now.
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My baby boy, I want you to know that I love you. Because I love you, I made the hardest choice I could ever imagine. You'll always be in my heart, I promise. I just want you to have every opportunity in the world. I'll always wonder where you are, what you're doing. I know you'll be really smart, I can tell. I'm already so proud of you. And no matter what, you'll be carrying a piece of my heart. Hug your mom and dad for me every day. Love you forever, Mama. I owe my birth mom everything. And because of her, I have a life. I love you, mom.
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To find a pregnancy resource center near you, go to choicebeginshere.org.
SPEAKER 05 :
ad campaign and of course that is not running to you as the consumer that is running to people who are in need people who are pregnant are trying to make that important decision but we can't fund that ad campaign it's not like it's a marketing campaign that we have a return like you know we're putting out a product and therefore people go get to the product and we make some sort of financial revenue from that that's not how this one works this is purely just a counter campaign to counter what the state is doing And that is all funded by you, the ACLJ supporter. So I'm going to encourage you right now, be a part of this Choice Begins Here campaign. Make a donation during this Life and Liberty Drive. And we get to do these Life and Liberty Drives a couple times a year, and we're really able to show whether this is an issue you still care about. We know the overturning of Roe, the win in the Dobbs case, made a lot of people just go, we won. Finally, it's over. But we know that's not the case. It was sent back to the states and some of your more liberal states or those who are, those are even just controlled by liberals or far leftists. We know what they're doing. And we also found out that this is happening in the state of California. And Will, maybe you can go over briefly before we get to break what that is.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And we've been talking about how we expected to see this other places. Our launch point was Massachusetts, but the Department of Justice of California has put out a consumer alert campaign about pregnancy, warning, pregnancy centers do not provide comprehensive reproductive healthcare. They often advertise full range, but they do not provide abortion, and it goes on and on. That's not from the Health Department of California. It's from the Attorney General of the state of California. We also have found out that Google, through AI, if you ask, just Google crisis pregnancy centers, It is all biased. Say that they peddle in misinformation and false advertising. So we have a big fight ahead, folks. It's not just Massachusetts. It begins there. But we're going to keep going. Donate today. ACLJ.org slash Life and Liberty.
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Welcome back to Secular. We are going to take your calls coming up in the next segment. So 1-800-684-3110. We may take them in this segment, too. You never know. CeCe Hiles joining us, senior attorney here at the ACLJ. We do have an update in the fight for Israel. Of course, this is in Gaza and Hamas has been going on now for millennia. But maybe it's also been going on specifically for the last couple of years after the October 7th attack. President Trump has made a pretty declarative statement. This came out last night. I'm just going to read it to you because it's pretty hardcore. But you know what? It's the verbiage that we all have been thinking and we've all been hopeful for. And finally, you have a president willing to say it. Now, again, I'm going to hope this means the end of the war. but we will see. This is the statement again, something that only president Trump could post on social media. It says Shalom Hamas, which means hello and goodbye. You can choose release all the hostages now, not later and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is over for you. Only sick and twisted people keep bodies and you are sick and twisted. I'm sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job. Not a single Hamas member will be safe. If you don't do, as I say, And that is from Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. Now again, a pretty intense statement, but clearly it is time for this kind of rhetoric.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And that is what people voted for when they voted for President Trump, a strong leader who will make statements like this and mean business. And it has gone on for far too long. And when we see more and more come out about how aid is misused in Gaza or the way that they have treated the hostages the mind games they've played with the world when they release prisoners bodies instead of living hostages and then to add insult to injury, they don't return the mother of the children and then quickly do it 24 hours later. It's all psychological warfare that they are perpetuating on the Jewish people and the people of Israel. And Cece, I think the American people have had enough. I know the Israeli people have had enough, but seeing statements like this from President Trump is very refreshing to see when you're talking about a terrorist organization.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it's very encouraging to me because, you know, working and defending Israel for as long as we have, you're very aware of Hamas and the PA and the PLO and all of their tactics. And the fact that, you know, you're renegotiating a second phase yet again, it's because they do negotiations and Israel does them in good faith and Hamas always always reneges on what they agree to so we see that here again and um you know it's believed that there are 24 hostages that are still alive that hamas has and i would uh reiterate that we actually have we actually represent two of those hostages um ziv and gali berman they're twins and back in february for the very first time we actually the family did get notification from some of the hostages that were released that they were alive they were not being held together but they were as you can imagine in mortal danger so you know i would just request that prayers just keep coming in for the hostages that they do remain alive that we can have nobody else dies in captivity um while they're being held by hamas and we're still going to be fighting for them and and praying for them and it's it's Very refreshing, like you said, that our president, President Trump, would make such a bold statement because that's what needs to be done. Hamas needs to be told, you're not going to get by with this anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
And clearly he met again with some of the hostages that were flown in to Washington, D.C. He was able to actually see it firsthand. And I think for a lot of people, not unlike just visiting Israel, in general, that it changes the way you see the whole war, changes the way you see biblical history, changes your life. And I feel like that's probably a moment that happened. And like President Trump seems to do, he's not going to let those emotions just get swept under the rug. You actually have a moment where he's like, you know what, enough is enough. Now, again, we have to see what that really means because Hamas is already saying, yeah, we'll kind of brush it off.
SPEAKER 03 :
We'll see what happens. Well, and this was supposed to be a time because phase one of the ceasefire ended that they were negotiating during that for a phase two. And that has not happened. Obviously, there were violations by Hamas during the ceasefire with those mind games they played. So I don't know that we will see Hamas coming to the negotiating table. But if they don't... either come to the table and just give the hostages back. I think that President Trump typically means what he says in these types of statements. But CeCe, also, you were in D.C. yesterday meeting. You handle so much of our international work here at the ACLJ. And we talked yesterday with Jeff Balaban about the work he was doing in Israel yesterday. yesterday, and you were in Washington working on some of the work we do for Israel. You will be going in just a week or so to Geneva at the UN and then to Israel with more of that work. Can you tell our audience a little bit about it and what they are supporting when they support the ACLJ, the great work you do?
SPEAKER 02 :
Sure. So yesterday we met in D.C. with the Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs. And basically they are a global embassy for national security and applied diplomacy for Israel. And so just being able to work with these groups and strategize, you know, again, you said I was going to the U.N. and I am the Human Rights Council, the 58th session. I'll be going mid-March. And we'll be doing oral submissions on behalf of Israel, supporting Israel, defending their right, really for existence, for being able to defend themselves and to exist peacefully, as we always do. And then after our trip to Geneva, then we will go on to Israel and be attending an anti-Semitism conference there. And so, again, working with, you know, like organizations and other Israeli officials, to see how we can best just, again, defend Israel and support its right to live peacefully within its defensible borders.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think this is a really important time. You need to support the work that we are doing there, because as you saw, Sisi is headed to take care of business here at the ACLJ, make sure things are still going to get done and we can still support these hostages. I mean, when you have Hamas, I mean, I saw one of the articles that just came out. It's like, well, Israel has stopped. Sending their humanitarian aid. This is the third day that they've stopped. Well, yeah, no kidding. I mean, in what other world are you expected to send humanitarian aid into a country that is holding your people hostage? And the thing is, Israel has been doing it. Yes. They've been doing it because as I've said, they value human life and even value the human life of the people that want them dead. That is the craziest part about this. But of course, that has to be the negative is Hamas says, you know, they're not even sending us any more food anymore. It's like, no kidding. Why would they? Take care of your own people if you can. But of course, in this moment, that's going to be held against Israel. They haven't done it. When we know what happened with, I mean, again, the tragedy of the Bibas family and we saw all of that play out, how can you just expect? And that's been the problem. Look, it's somewhat the problem with America. It is somewhat the problem with Israel. When you have people with compassion who are actually running a country, who actually can see humanitarian issues and try to take care of it, even when... even when things are against you, even when those people want you dead, you tell me who the good guy is in that situation. But now when they actually have a few cards, which is humanitarian aid, that's one of the cards they have is sending food and things into Gaza saying, no, we're not going to do that anymore until you free the remaining hostages. But then somehow, of course, the media will spin it that they're the bad guys.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's exactly what we talked about yesterday. It was the whole thing of, and I'll be very quick, is that Israel goes above and beyond what any other nation would do, even including the United States. You're exactly right. They're providing food. They're providing provisions for literally their enemy. While their enemy is holding their own citizens captive, even when they are defending themselves, they will literally give, they will send leaflets and tell the area where they're going to be attacking when they're defending themselves. No other country does that. No other country gives the enemy an update of, hey, we're going to be attacking you. So any civilians get out of there. No country does that. Israel goes above and beyond and they're always painted as the enemy. And we are here at the ACLJ to stop that and change that narrative.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And you can be a part of that change as well. So I encourage you, we are just kicking off our life on Liberty Drive. We've had a great first week, but we need more support. You've heard about our Choice Begins Here campaign. You now heard about what we're doing in Israel. Of course, what we do on this broadcast each and every day. None of this is free. All of it, it's all free for you. But it is not free for those of us that work on it every day. So I encourage you right now to make that donation because all donations are doubled. You're going to hear about it a lot this month. And you know what? That's just what it is. Because right now, it's a really crucial time because only a few times a year are we able to unlock those double donations. Unlock those matching donations. But right now is the time. ACLJ.org to do it or scan the QR code on your screen. We're going to take phone calls coming up in the next segment. And phone lines are completely jammed right now. They will probably open up. So do that today again. Go to ACLJ.org. You can give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. If it's busy, keep calling. And we will get to as many calls as we can. Because we've heard from incredible lawyers like CeCe Heil. We've heard from Rick Grinnell, former director of national intelligence and a special envoy right now. You heard from Will Haines, our executive producer. And of course, you've heard from me. But now we get to hear from the most important voice in the room, you. Because you help dictate what we do as an organization and where we take things. So right now, give us a call. We'll be right back with your calls and comments. Welcome back to Seculo. It's time to hear from you. We got a couple lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Again, stay on hold because it's going to take a minute to get through everybody. Let's go ahead and kick it off with Michael, who's calling from the state of Florida, great state of Florida, what they call the free state of Florida. You're on, watching from YouTube. Michael, go ahead.
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Gentlemen, I just wanted to call and say that it's unfortunate that we're dealing with crazy things. And crazy continues to double down. And, you know, what's really bad about it is the fact that they're not voting in a different point of view of what's best for America. They're simply voting against Trump to try and either stop or slow his agenda. And so I think what we need to do is we need to continue to expose how these people are voting. actually even on both sides, and continue to amplify what's happening during the primaries and during the midterms.
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Michael, we saw yesterday, I mean, look, think about the response from MSNBC to maybe the, you could at least say a unifying moment that happened during that not State of the Union. When a little boy, a 13 year old boy wanted to be deputized because he has brain cancer and they've been getting him deputized throughout the country, honorary deputizes because he wants to be a police officer. And they, of course, they showed President Trump said, guess what? We're going to make you a member of the Secret Service. Beautiful moment. Everyone cheered and applauded. Not everyone. Only about half the room. Some of them quietly clapped, didn't stand. Couple stood on the other side of the room. And then you had Nicole Wallace go on air and go, I hope he doesn't become one of those police officers that eventually will have to protect himself against President Trump. And, you know, hopefully he doesn't commit suicide because of it. This is what you're dealing with here. And you're right. It is only because it's President Trump. That is what's happening. But Michael, I think you're right. They can keep doing this and keep doing this. The media can keep doing it, but the American people aren't taking it. Thanks for calling, Michael. Let's go to Whitney, who is an ACLJ champion. Of course, champions. She's been on hold the least, but because she's an ACLJ champion, she gets bumped to the front of the line. Whitney, you're on the air.
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I appreciate it, Logan. Thank you. I totally support the censure. In fact, I'm glad to see it. Like Will and other callers have said, bad behavior without consequence leads to more bad behavior. But I also think that the Republicans, whether they are the minority or the majority, have a tradition of self-censure. When one of their members misbehaves, they do censure them. And when the Democrats are in the majority, they never discipline their members. Antisemitism and all kinds of terrible things and lack of decorums have gone unchecked. And so I think this is Mike Johnson's way of sort of showing his bipartisan even handedness to say, hey, you misbehave, you're going to be censured, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. This just happened to be a Democrat.
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Yeah, I agree with you, Whitney. And, you know, to the detriment of the majority, the Republicans expelled George Santos. They were the ones that led that effort and had him removed from the Congress. It wasn't the Democrats that were in control and moved that forward. It was Republicans. But you are correct. We've seen so much misbehavior, bad behavior by people of the left. that if it continues to go unchecked, it will continue to grow. And to also bring that back up as well, I think it's still going to grow even with the punishments because they are trying to make it seem as though they are a martyr for the cause. This is the first time a member of Congress has been removed from a State of the Union or Joint Address. And it's going to continue to grow, one, because we know that members of Congress love to be on television. And when they can be the one that gets a little bit extra bookings on CNN, on MSNBC, and they get to tell their sad story about how they stood in the gap to defend democracy, instead of respecting the traditions and the institutions, they're going to keep doing it. And that's a problem.
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Absolutely. Let's continue on and take some more calls. Let's go to Doug, who's watching on YouTube in North Carolina. Doug, go ahead.
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Hello. Yes. You can hear me?
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I can hear you.
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Thank you. I was thinking about how Democrats and Republicans traditionally have voted, that you see in the country that that usually you have more Republicans and in the cities you have more Democrats. And you can picture this by a guy on a farm. He goes outside the door and he looks and there's a board falling off the barn. And he's got to take care of it. He doesn't depend on the government to. But a person in the city, he walks out the door and there's a crack in the sidewalk. And who's going to fix that? Well, it's going to be the government probably. So traditionally... The cities, you have big government.
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In most states, there are blue spots and red states even. And a lot of times those are, of course, your major cities.
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To point out is what traditionally used to be the difference between Democrats and Republicans. But the only thing that makes sense right now is that the Democrats have gone to be globalists, Marxist globalists. And when you look at what they do, that's the only thing that makes sense. And so we've got two parties. They're not Republican and Democrat anymore. We've got globalists, Marxists, and Americans.
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I think that to your point, I mean, that's why we have seen a shift in the people that have joined the Republican Party, people that were traditionally Democrats like Bobby Kennedy or Tulsi Gabbard that saw how ridiculous that party had become. And I agree when you look at the opposition to cutting government, they are making each line item seem like. It is life or death if we don't spend this money or don't have this control over it, even when it is the most nuanced, but still millions and millions of dollars, but project in a foreign country through USAID. They are trying to pinpoint that as though it is life and death and that America has to be there no matter what. And that does seem more like a globalist Marxist point of view than an American big government, small government argument.
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Hey, I want to quickly get this last call. You've been on hold for a while. We only got about a minute and a half till this show ends. So you got about 20 or 30 seconds. I'm sorry. But Scott in Nevada, you're on the line.
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Hi, I'd just like to say that I think that we should call out the Democrats for their antics, but I can see the ad in next year's primaries where. They show all the antics that the Democrats are doing right now, and then they cut to President Trump, J.D. Vance, Kristi Noem with their speeches and agreements going on and just ask the public, which do you prefer?
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Yeah, and I think that that's an interesting point of view, too. Can we flip it on them in that sense and actually use these moments of chaos that they're causing to be a rallying cry for conservative values, for Christian values? It's a good thought, Scott. As we wrap up today's show, I did want to give you one last opportunity to support the work of the ACLJ and scan the QR codes about to pop up on your screen. There it is. There it is. During our life and liberty drive. We're also going to talk maybe tomorrow a bit about the astronauts. I would like to do that because it's been a whole debate whether whether they are stranded or not stranded, whether Elon Musk tried to send a earlier ship to get them to bring them back home and whether it was politically motivated to not as it seems as if the astronauts themselves think that's what maybe what happened. And guess who was there to watch them take off? You would never guess it. But me, I was there. I watched that ship take off, and I turned to my son and said, they're going to be returning home in six days, seven days. Isn't that going to be cool? Here we are. We'll talk about that tomorrow. I thought that was a fun fact. You can put that in there, Wikipedia entry. Support the work of the ACLJ. Do it right now. This is it. Ten seconds left, and in this ten seconds, scan that QR code right now. Go to ACLJ.org. Support us during the Life and Liberty Drive. All donations are doubled.
In this insightful episode of Washington Watch, Tony Perkins delves into the critical issues defining the future of the Middle East from the heart of Jerusalem. Key discussions revolve around the concept of a two-state solution as proposed by international figures like Antonio Guterres, and the complexities posed by different parties towards peace in the region. Through interviews with significant Israeli leaders such as David Mincer and legal expert Professor Eugene Kantorovich, the episode scrutinizes the geopolitical and ideological shifts and evaluates their impacts on Israel's policy and strategy.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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The only path to lasting peace is one where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace and security, in line with international law and relevant UN resolutions, with Jerusalem as the capital of both states.
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That was Antonio Guterres, Secretary General of the United Nations, earlier this week, as he missed what happened on October the 7th, 2023. Welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. We're broadcasting from the studios of CBN in Jerusalem, where I've been meeting with Israeli leaders over this past week. In just a moment, we'll be joined by my friend David Mincer, Israeli government spokesman. Well, in the mix of issues that will define the future of the Middle East is Judea and Samaria, the geographical and historical heartland of Israel. We'll be joined by a member of Knesset to talk about the effort to declare Israeli sovereignty over what has been called the West Bank. Pastor Eugene, Professor rather, Eugene Kantorovich, will also join us to explore the legal aspects of what is being proposed by President Trump for Gaza and the deep state. It's here in Israel, just as strong as it is in the United States. We'll explore that later on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, yesterday, President Trump issued a last warning to Hamas, calling on the terrorist group to release all the hostages they are holding or, quote, it is over for you. President's statement, which was posted on his Truth Social platform, came after he met in the Oval Office with eight freed hostages who shared their heartbreaking stories and stressed to him the urgency of returning the remaining captives from Gaza. Now, with President Trump's clear commitment to helping Israel finish the job, Will Hamas realize it's fighting a war it cannot win? With me now in studio to talk about this more is David Mincer, Israeli government spokesman for the National Public Diplomacy Directorate in the office of the Israeli prime minister. David, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Good to be with you, Tony, and thank you for joining us yourself. Well, it's good to be here in Jerusalem. It's almost like home away from home. Let's talk about this. Yesterday, the president, before I get into the president's comments, I want to go back, really to set the stage, because you heard that quote this week. from the Secretary General of the United Nations saying, the only way for peace in the Middle East is a two-state solution with a divided Jerusalem as the government of both, as a capital city for both nations.
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I mean, isn't that what we tried, what was tried in Gaza? Well, to all of us here in Israel, Tony, the United Nations, which should be a force for good in the world, is actually the opposite. Everyone here in Israel knows that. And I think enlightened people around the world recognize that as well, because Antonio Guterres has never failed to miss the opportunity to call out the villains for who they are. And that is Hamas, the genocidal, murderous organization. Look, a Palestinian state which seeks to replace Israel, as almost every single Palestinian leader says openly, is simply no answer whatsoever.
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Now, I'm going to talk later about the... There's a moving or a growing movement, I should say, here in Israel to declare sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. I know there's a number of issues. Talked with the prime minister about that this week. But... When you look at Gaza, Judea and Samaria, which is in the center of the country as opposed to a small strip down in the southern part on the Mediterranean, is 24 times the size of Gaza. If Gaza didn't work out with self-government from the Palestinians, how are Israelis expected to believe it will work if Judea and Samaria is turned over to the Palestinian Arab state?
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Absolutely, Tony. You know, in 2005, this was an experiment. We pulled all of our people, every single Jew out of Gaza. And the idea was, let's see what the Gazans can do with it. Let's see what the Palestinians can do with it. They turned it into a large organization. operating base of terrorism from which we have just suffered the worst day of Jew killing since the Holocaust and certainly in this country's history. We've seen the mistake that was made. We understand that Palestinians given self-rule very often turn to terrorism. So that can be no resolution whatsoever in this part of the world. After October the 7th, we're on our guard. We were taken by surprise on October the 7th. We will not be taken by surprise again.
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President Trump, after meeting with freed hostages, made very clear hostages need to be released from Gaza. They need to be home. And this is it. Time is out. We're moving forward. Now, I want to go back a month ago before the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, met with the president, the president's first head of state visit. In fact, we met the night before. I'm told that the president viewed prior to that meeting the video footage that came out of Israel based upon cell phone footage and security cameras. I watched that video myself. It is beyond words in terms of the brutality. I can only describe it as demonic, what took place on that day, October the 3rd. That appeared to have moved the president into a very bold position last month. It would appear to me that his meeting with the hostage to hear firsthand what happened to them has moved it maybe further.
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Look, our health ministry released yesterday that up to 40% of our hostages' body weight has been taken off. They've lost 40% of their body mass. They've lived in starvation conditions. They've lost teeth. Their eyesight has been ruined. And we also know that psychological condition will obviously take a lot longer to heal. Tony, this is a death cult. It's a death cult. The president recognizes that. There is no peace with a death cult. A death cult needs to be destroyed. Our culture teaches us to love life, to prolong life. Their culture teaches death. They yearn for death. That is why there is no cooperation, no coexistence with the Hamas terrorist organization. End of.
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And I said October the 3rd, but October the 7th. You mentioned mistakes were made. And I've met with a number of Israeli leaders over the last year and a half and discussed that. In part, you just talked about the ideology. There's no peace with a death cult. Prior to October the 7th, there was a sense that it was an issue of economic prosperity and well-being that was the motivation for Gazans and Hamas. That clearly is not right. It is an ideology that is driving them, and you have to deal with the ideology. It sounds as if, based upon my conversation, that Israel's come to that understanding.
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There's no education-like experience, and we've lived it. There have been catastrophic mistakes made in this country. The idea that we can coexist with this terrorist organization right on our borders. You know, this is not a land far away. You've seen it for yourself. It's right over our fence. It's a matter of meters away from where our people live. It's a death cult. It must be destroyed, which is why the key war aims of this war, of this government, of our prime minister, has been to destroy Hamas's military and its governing capability, and to ensure that Hamas can never coexist again in Gaza. We won't be threatened again by Gaza. You know, we were taken by surprise. There have been catastrophic errors made. This country is learning those errors the hard way, but living next to a death cult is simply not an answer. We will be victorious by destroying this organization.
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Let's talk about that, David Minter, about the path forward, the stated goals of this war effort, bring the hostages home and to eliminate Hamas, not contain it, but eliminate it. There is at current a pause. We're in a period, kind of an in-between period of phase one and phase two. Where do we stand on phase two of the ceasefire hostage negotiations?
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The Prime Minister has made clear that we've had no greater friend than President Trump in the White House. And his envoy, Mr. Witkoff, has made a proposition, and it's very, very clear. And it says, release the hostages for the ceasefire to continue. It's as simple as that. You let our people go. You know, we're approaching Passover now. That phrase, let our people go, resonates with us as it does with you. You let our people go, you leave Gaza, you escape with your lives. That's what the government is telling very, very clearly to Hamas. If you wish to stay, if you do not wish to release our hostages, Israel reserves the right to return to battle. And you can be sure that with the United States behind us, with our greatest ally in the world, shoulder to shoulder with us in a way that no one else has ever seen in the history of the relationship between our two great countries, you can be sure that we will be victorious.
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Along those lines, David, this week here in Israel, there was a change in the chief of staff of the IDF, new leadership coming in. And what I'm hearing on the ground here is it is kind of a sea change of orientation from a standpoint of a more aggressive approach.
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Tony, our new chief of staff yesterday, and I'm sure all of us wish him well, said these two words. He said, total victory. That's what the prime minister has said, and that's what our chief of staff is committed to. And I know, and I know, because I know this from firsthand, with the bravery of our soldiers, with the commitment of our people, with the determination and our faith in the good Lord above, we will be victorious. Hamas's days are numbered. We will not live next to this death cult no more.
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I've also heard repeatedly, David, that we have to go for the, and this is the phrase used, the head of the snake. It's clear that Iran continues to play in this region, not only as using Hamas as a proxy. We're at Syria. There's still concerns there. But even in Judea and Samaria, you know, I'm told that massive smuggling efforts of advanced weapons now coming into Judea and Samaria into Turkey. Iran still is on the list.
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You know, in a few days time, we here in Israel are celebrating the festival of Purim. Right. And that commemorates a victory over another Persian tyrant, Haman. Right. And his king, Ahasuerus. So we've seen down these Persian tyrants in the past. We know that Iran is trying to ignite the region. We know that they failed with all their promises. in Lebanon, with Hamas, with the Houthis, with the Shia in Iraq. They failed in every way, but they're trying to ignite the Judea and Samaria. Our eyes are wide open, Tony. We know what they're up to, and they will not succeed.
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We found out yesterday that the Trump administration has had some direct communications with Hamas, telling them to let the hostages go now. I think reinforcing the messages that President Trump has been sending. Have any Israeli officials had any further contact with Hamas?
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Our Prime Minister's office yesterday made clear that we know these discussions are going ahead. We're well aware. But from Israel's point of view, there is nothing to discuss. We are discussing with our U.S. partners. That's who we're discussing the future of this region with. anything for their people. They don't, of course, they hate their own people. They want to kill as many of them as they possibly can, but they would lay down their arms, release our hostages and move out of Gaza. If they don't, Israel will be victorious.
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David, we just have 30 seconds left. What is the main thing evangelicals and American can be praying for, for Israel?
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Look, the famous phrase says that at the end of this war, we won't remember what we said about us. We'll remember the silence of our friends. Evangelicals have not been silent. They've kept their voices up high. They're heard in the White House. They're heard in the Oval Office. And we hear their prayers as well. And they have an effect. Keep doing it. Keep going forward. And together, we will be successful.
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David Minter, thank you so much. Folks, stick with us. We're coming back with more Washington Watch right after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us as we broadcast from Jerusalem here at the CBN studios. And it's been a great week here. And we once again appreciate CBN for hosting us here in their studios. Well, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu leads his country in the efforts against the terrorist group Hamas, he's also fighting another battle in the courts and has been doing so for more than five years. And what he's facing is just the tip of the iceberg that many don't know about. It's called the deep state in Israel. And with me now in studio to discuss this and more, Israeli Knesset member, Amit Halivi. Amit, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Great honor to be here with you, Tommy. Well, we had an opportunity to visit during our time here in Israel, and America's not alone in a deep state trying to undermine really conservative, constitutional-based activity.
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Definitely. Actually, the first meaning in Israel, when you say two states, you know, we talked about two states. This is the state and the deep state in Israel, because it's a huge problem in Israel. And it's not about conservative. By the way, it's about democracy. I mean, our democracy is under attack actually for decades. 30 years since the former chief, the former head of the Supreme Court, Aharon Barak, that's his name, actually made this, as he called it, the Judiciary Revolution. And it was indeed a revolution because since then, And across the road over those 30 years, the real decision maker is not the people. I mean, it's not our people. It's all the Supreme Court, all the, you know, those officials and high-ranking officers. I can give you one example, maybe two examples, very, very strong and serious because it's relevant to our security status in Israel. Take the fact that the IDF as actually the Attorney General, the IDF Attorney General, together with Israeli Attorney General, actually prevented from IDF to make those targeted elimination to those people that actually took part in the massacre. Yes, there were thousands of terrorists that actually get in our . So they had a veto over the IDF and the prime minister? Indeed. And we're talking about those people that hidden up the Bibas family. Yes. And murder them. Yes. We know these people. We have the list. But the attorney general for some, you know, a very extreme interpretation of international law, which is incorrect, definitely incorrect. But that's it's her opinion. And she decides she's not elected. And she is not elected. And the same thing, I can tell you, two years ago in the Knesset, we passed a legislation that actually said that every terrorist that made a terror attack will revoke his citizenship and he will be part of the Palestinian authorities. Yes. Since then, for more than two years, the officials do not transfer the information that is needed in order to apply, in order to implement this legislation. So the Minister of Interior, the Interior Minister, his name is Moshe Arbel, needs actually to do this, to revoke the citizenship, to take them out. from Israel, and he can't do it because they need the information. It's a very, very specific information. Who of those terrorists gets sponsorship from the Palestinian Authority? Everyone gets. But to take the list, you know, the table, the Excel file, and this Excel file exists. in the high-ranking officers in the army. And the high-ranking officers in the army, together with those legal advisors, they just don't bring it to the minister. And that's the way they prevent this legislation to be applied.
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very similar to what Donald Trump experienced in his first term. MK Halevi, let's also talk about how American foreign aid, which has come through USAID, has actually been used here in Israel under the previous administration to join with leftist organizations to fuel that deep state.
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Well, you know, in Obama's term, in Obama's second term, I think, there was some family in the United States that asks the information, who actually got into the White House? You know, in order to get into the White House, you need to have formal approval. And they found out that Michael Sfarad, it's one of the famous lawyers here of the extreme left-wing movements, he was the... highest, the Israeli that actually got in the major times into the White House. And this connection, this global connection between the recent government in the US and the extreme leftist here is not surprised anyone here i mean those are global movements as you know funny global movements that actually had a progressive goal and doing everything also undermining democratic regime like in israel in order to promote their progressive goals so we were not surprised we do we were do surprised from the you know amounts of money i mean we're talking Generally speaking, billions of dollars that the USA actually was given to all over the world for the international goals. It's actually the same neo-Marxist school of thoughts that they are not dealing, never dealt in the, you know, in the local area, also in the Soviet Union, in the Soviet regime. It was about international revolution. So that's why this connection is part of the international revolution that tried to promote.
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M.K. Halevi, we just have about a minute left, but that's fine. You know, some would say that's fine in times of peace when there's no threat, but this has proven to put Israel at risk.
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No doubt about it. I mean, Israel is the, after October 7th, that we are under, you know, it was not even a regular war. It was a massacre, Holocaust day. And in these times that there is such, the US government, the former US government actually was involved here in our local issues. Yes, I want to remind you that Chuck Schumer this statement that he thinks there should be elections in Israel. So that was the formal words. And behind the scenes, they not only said it in the media, they also made these activities. They put their money where their mouth was. Put their money exactly where their mouth was.
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Unfortunately, it was our money. It was taxpayers' money that they used to unsettle and create instability in the Israeli government.
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Definitely. And I like there are, you know, formal words like they want stability and they want the security of Israel. In fact, the last government, Antony Blinken, I was witness, by the way, to the cruel pressure. And I think that if your audience would know what I'm talking about, he would shock. He would shock because he came here not one time and made cruel pressure on our vital interests. MK Halimi, thank you for joining us. Thank you, Tony.
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All right, folks, stick with us.
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We're back with more after this.
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For amber waves of grace. At the 2025 National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance, hundreds gathered with Christian and government leaders at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC to pray for the nation and ask God to forgive us of our sins.
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We gather here not to appeal to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. We are appealing to heaven. Today we make our appeal not in the authority of a political party or in the name of a denomination. We come in the name and the authority of Jesus Christ. who has been given all authority in heaven and on earth, and we have been commissioned to operate in that authority.
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Father, we pray in Jesus' name for our complacency, our greed, our pride, our gluttony, our sloth, and tolerance of sin.
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Lord, your word is the food that can make America healthy again. May your word be exalted and believed in our nation again. Lord, we ask that you allow us to become that shining city on the hill once more for your love, your grace, and your mercy.
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thank you for your love and your grace and your mercy for the opportunity that you have provided us to heal our land we ask you to do it lord we ask you for the wisdom discernment and stamina to do the thing that you have called each one of us all of us here to do may we be found faithful we trust it pray it believe it all in jesus name amen
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us as we broadcast from Jerusalem. We're in the CBN studios here in Jerusalem. Our appreciation to them for hosting us. Well, during his joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on February the 4th, President Trump said, quote, we will be making an announcement on that very specific topic in the next four weeks. Now, he was speaking about the issue of Judea and Samaria and sovereignty over that issue. Now, those that are here in Israel who are eagerly awaiting a statement from the new administration on the future of Judea and Samaria. Well, in the meantime, legislation has been introduced here in the Israeli Knesset to declare sovereignty over the biblical heartland of Israel. With me now to discuss this is Israeli Knesset member, Ohad Tal, who introduced that legislation. MK Tal, welcome to Washington Watcher. I should say, welcome back. Thanks for joining us.
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Thank you very much, Tony. It's always a pleasure to be with you, and welcome to Jerusalem.
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It's great to be here. We've had some very productive meetings this week and some visits throughout Judea and Samaria, which, you know, we cannot say this enough for our audience in the United States. Judea and Samaria is both the heartland geographically of Israel, but it's also the heartland historically of the Jewish people and of the nation. And it's always baffled me. Why is this even in question as to who has sovereignty over this area?
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That's a wonderful question. But by the way, I want to use this important platform of yours to say to all our friends in America, to invite them, to invite them to come to Judea and Samaria, to come to Israel, but especially to come to Judea and Samaria and see for your own eyes what is this place, to feel, to smell, to get the sense of what is even happening. Because You know, I believe many people, they hear about Judea and Samaria only through media. And in the media, they present it in a very, very specific way. And I think it's important for people to come to feel and to see with their own eyes what is actually happening in the land. And yes, Judea and Samaria, that is, as you've said, the biblical heartland of Israel. This is where all the stories of the Bible, this is where they took place. This is where the patriarchs and matriarchs have walked and are buried. This is where all the stories of the Bible happened. And the time has come to acknowledge that and to really to apply full Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria.
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And of course, when those on the ideological left talk about Judea and Samaria, they say West Bank, which incorporates all the way, I mean, some of the most historic and significant sites. Like this week, I was at Joshua's altar, the first place where the children of Israel, when they came in, really became a nation as they set up the altar and recounted the cursing and the blessing from Deuteronomy. That's one of the spots, Shiloh, where the tabernacle stood for 369 years. And even the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, that is considered the West Bank. How can that be?
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you're right this is part of the of the lie who tried to to take away uh the jewish narrative and to to sell another false narrative uh you know it's called the west bank simply because the jordanians took over that area uh uh after the 1948 the independence war of israel they took over uh of that of those places and they call it the west bank of the jordan valley but You know, that story actually gives us the whole issue because, you know, for 19 years, since 1948 until 1967, for 19 years, the Arabs had this whole area for themselves. Jews were allowed to get into the West Bank, into Judea and Samaria. Why didn't they establish a Palestinian state in those areas if this is really what they want? But that only reveals the lie, the false of these claims, because they don't really want to have a state of their own in Judea and Samaria or in the West Bank, as they call it. They only want to use the two-state solution as their way forward of destroying the Jewish state. This is what they want, and this lie just exposed that. And we have to stop lying to ourselves, stop fooling ourselves and realizing the truth. And the truth is that Judea and Samaria should be part of the modern state of Israel.
SPEAKER 04 :
Two years ago, there would be those that would say that's just hyperbole. You're just inciting division. But in the wake of October the 7th and what happened in Gaza, a piece of land that represents, I mean, Judea and Samaria is 24 times larger than Gaza. You can see just from that experiment that this two-state solution is not a solution at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're right. You're right. Because in 2005, we actually withdrew from the Gaza Strip. We expelled 8,000 of our people out of Gaza. We took even people out of their graves. And we gave it all to the Palestinians. We effectively gave them a state of their own. And that experiment has miserably failed. On October 7th, we all discovered that dividing God's land, giving pieces of that to the Arabs does not help promote peace or bring stability and prosperity to the region. It only does the opposite of that. And the time has come, again, to realize this truth and to change the course of history.
SPEAKER 04 :
MK Tao, we just have about 40 seconds left, but as you've introduced this legislation, I've seen there is a change in the mindset here in Israel that now is the time to declare that sovereignty over this historically, biblically destined land.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're right. You know, we are very hopeful and we are praying God. We are certain, again, that with what is happening here in Israel and with the leadership of President Trump, we will see a change in the right direction. And the people of Israel will recognize our sovereignty. And I hope the nations will also recognize the Jewish sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. That is the right way forward. It will only bring more peace, stability and prosperity to everybody.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead, Tal. Thanks for being with us, folks. Stick with us. We're back with more from Israel after this.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. So many people have criticized it from the perspective of international law, because part of the plan involves resettling the current population of Gaza. And what people need to understand is that the people in Gaza now, the Arabs in Gaza, are actually being held prisoner there. They're not allowed to leave. They're not allowed to leave by Hamas on the inside and Egypt on the outside. The entire area is one big human shield. Isn't that against international law? Absolutely. First of all, Hamas is coercing people to stay. And Egypt has an obligation under refugee law to take people who are fleeing. The problem is President Biden treated.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why? I mean, the question is, why did given the fact that Egypt is a large recipient, second largest recipient of foreign aid for the United States, why were they not leaned on?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. Because President Biden treated the border of Gaza and Egypt like he should have treated the U.S. southern border. Nobody can go through. And the U.S. southern border, like he should have treated the Gaza border, guys seek refuge because they see for the Biden administration and the Obama administration, a Palestinian state is not just a policy idea. It's almost like an ideology, a mission. And they don't want anything that could undermine a Palestinian state, even if they have to keep the Palestinians prisoner to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
So let me make sure I'm clear on what you're saying, Eugene, that this could unravel the entire two-state propaganda that we've been hearing since 1947, that it in fact is not workable. It's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And that's why they're not being allowed to leave. In surveys before the war, before the war, something like 40 percent of people in Gaza said they want to leave. Right now, it's going to be much more. But of course, that removes one of the big impetuses for forcing Israel to allow the creation of a Palestinian state. And that's why the world has created basically a North Korea situation. in Gaza, an iron curtain. And President Trump is saying, I'm going to lift the iron curtain. I'm going to let people in Gaza go. That is a victory for international law. That is a humanitarian policy. What are the next steps? So the next step, I think we already touched on. People in Gaza are not leaving because, first of all, Hamas keeps them inside. So Israel has to be completely allowed to defeat Hamas, has to destroy every aspect of Hamas power so they can't coerce their own people, so that they can't threaten Israel. Egypt gets $3 billion a year from the United States, which is a huge thing for them, big part of their military economy. Why are they pointing their tanks at the fence to shoot Gazans who would want to leave, who would want to escape? Those tanks are being paid for by U.S. dollars. We should not be paying them to keep Gazans in prison. We should tell them they have, you know, this $3 billion is going to disappear if they don't let the people in Gaza leave.
SPEAKER 04 :
Professor, is there another side of this for just a moment? Let me ask you this. And I've spent a little bit of time in Egypt. I've met with LCC, President LCC. I would say he has a very fragile government. It's one of the most chaotic places I've ever visited. Is this not an admission that they don't want the problems that have been created by Hamas in the radicalization of the Gazans?
SPEAKER 05 :
yeah and i think it certainly is and i think it teaches us something so much about this two-state solution that every supposed middle east expert said was the solution no arab country wants to admit the people of gaza as refugees in any number right but yet israel was supposed to allow the creation of a country sandwiching israel from both sides with eight miles in between uh which no arab state would uh certainly would allow But nobody is suggesting that they have to stay in Egypt. They probably don't want to stay in Egypt. Egypt is just the first place that they would be able to leave through. But they could presumably resettle throughout Europe, throughout Turkey, which is a big fan of the Palestinian cause. They don't all have to stay in Egypt. And I think that's something that we should be very sympathetic to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Your suggestion is, if I recall correctly, is in our conversation, is that they should be free to go. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
For example- They make the choice where they want to go. Millions of people fled the Syrian conflict. Millions of people fled the Ukrainian conflict, Afghanistan. There was no international plan for where they're going to go. Some went to one country, some went to another. That's the normal way these things work. The key is to allow them to leave. And I don't think most of them want to be in Egypt because they understand the Egyptians are not going to treat them well. So they will find their ways to countries that will treat them better, where they could make a better life. And what President Trump has suggested is there can even be financial support for this from the other countries of the Middle East. So instead of us paying the Egyptians to pay to keep the Gazans trapped, we'll pay to let them free.
SPEAKER 04 :
But here's the downside for the United Nations and others who have used the Palestinians as props for the last half a century. How do they rob Israel of its land?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. You said it exactly right, the way I put it in my Wall Street Journal article. The Palestinians have been treated as serfs by the international community. They're not allowed to ever leave, and they have a hereditary status as refugees, even if they've never fled anywhere, even if they've been in the same place for generations. Serfdom is not something that we really recognize these days. And I think President Trump has a plan that really would be called progressive if it didn't have the feature of happening to help Israel be safe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. At the beginning of the program, I had David Minter on spokesman for the Israeli government spokesman. And I played a clip from the Secretary General of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres, this week making the comment that the only way forward for peace in the Middle East is a two-state solution with a divided Jerusalem as the capital for both of those states. I mean, who believes that? After October the 7th, who believes that?
SPEAKER 05 :
So, I think we have to understand, and as people of faith, it's important to understand that there's faith that comes in all sorts of costumes. And the secular cosmopolitan ideology that they have has all of the aspects of faith. That is to say, this has become a religion for them. They have made an idol out of this two-state solution. And they're not going to lose faith in it easily. It is a kind of fundamental commitment. But how do they see it coming about?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, we pray, but we also work to see those prayers come to reality.
SPEAKER 05 :
How do they- They don't take President Trump seriously enough yet. They think they can wait him out. They think he's- As they have many other Republican floating out, but there's never been a Republican administration like this one. They think he's floating trial balloons. So they think if you create some kind of, you know, if you stick to your guns, it will be the same. But the most interesting thing that they still say, the two-state solution, regardless of what happens in the world, their prescription is the same. That is to say, it is not responsive to changes in circumstances, to new evidence, to new developments. In that way, it's...
SPEAKER 04 :
But the situation here in the Middle East is so volatile right now that just trying to wait out President Trump, I think, is just waiting for another explosion to occur when you have Iran about ready to break out with a nuclear weapon. You've got them flooding Judea and Samaria with advanced weaponry through Jordan. It's just a matter of time.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a ticking time bomb here. So President Trump understands that we need to end the conflict here. That what you see here, for as long as we've been talking about the two-state solution, we have had cycles of mass terror and full-scale war every couple years. So the two-state solution is not leading us to a path towards peace. declaring the conflict over, recognizing Israel's legitimate rights in a way that discourages and disincentivizes attacks on Israel. That is the way to peace and stability. But the U.N. doesn't really care about that. We have to, of course, UNRWA, the United Nations agency heavily in Gaza and Judea and Samaria, was essentially seamlessly merged with Hamas.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they've been fueling ideologically the divide in their educational system. Exactly. And I've seen the material. It is inciting violence and hatred toward the Jewish people, in fact, refusing to even show the state of Israel on their maps.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I think we still quote the U.N. Secretary General as a diplomat. But I think one thing up to October 7th has at least revealed to the people of Israel is that the U.N. is really just terrorists in suits. That is to say, they knew about it. They didn't do anything about it. And they're still covering up for it and trying to prevent punishment of those people involved.
SPEAKER 04 :
Professor, I've not been able to validate, verify this. I'm just seeing news that there are some reports that the Trump administration, considering the same concept that he has stated for Gaza as being a way forward in Judea and Samaria.
SPEAKER 05 :
So obviously the situation in Judea and Samaria is quite different. And I think the situation of the Arab residents there is far from as desperate because there's not been a war there. But part of that plan that President Trump seems to be considering is a recognition of Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria.
SPEAKER 04 :
That would be really the first part. Which allows then more of a security presence to disarm and to... to basically eliminate the threat, the terrorist threat.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it disincentivizes, exactly that. And it also disincentivizes the terrorist threat. The reason the terrorists think they have a chance is because the international community keeps saying Central Israel is still up for grabs.
SPEAKER 04 :
To that point, I was talking earlier with a member of the Knesset, Ohad Tal, the term West Bank that's been used since 1947, 1948, that term incites rather than brings peace to this region, because it does suggest what you said, that somehow this land has been taken and that if there's just enough opposition, it'll be taken back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. And we see, President Trump has a blueprint for how to make this work. He said that Jerusalem is the sovereign capital of the Jewish nation for a few reasons. A, because he said it's true and I want to live in the universe of reality. B, pretending it's not true only encourages the Arabs to have unrealistic demands and unrealistic expectations about the future of Jerusalem. Take it off the table. And we took it off the table, and what happened? We got the Abraham Accords. That is to say, making the expectations realistic is actually going to bring peace to the region.
SPEAKER 04 :
Also, when you look at the situation in Judea and Samaria, How do you see where you have the Arab communities, and there are clearly, as we talked about, Iran sending in, smuggling in weapons to basically support terrorist activity there. The declaration of sovereignty over that area, would that not also be a major setback to Iran?
SPEAKER 05 :
It would mean Iran has, as a result of the wars it started on October 7th, lost basically all of its pieces on the border.
SPEAKER 04 :
And one of the most important things when it comes to the Middle East is power and land. Absolutely. And of course, from a biblical standpoint, the covenant with Abraham dealt with people, land, and a promise. And by recognizing that this is in fact the land of the Jewish people historically, biblically, that I would think would be a major disincentive to terrorists to undertake things like what happened on October the 7th.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely, it would have the advantage of both strengthening Israel in a security perspective, but also strengthening it morally. There's a reason that the places where the Jewish presence is most criticized are those places that are most fundamental to Jewish biblical identity. Almost everything. Jerusalem, Hebron, Nablus, Shem. These are the central places because they understand that if you can make the Jews concede the places that are fundamental. That's their identity. That's the identity of the Jewish people. And after that, Tel Aviv becomes very hard to maintain if it's not really just an auxiliary to the claim on Jerusalem. Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Fascinating times. Appreciate your insight and clarity on these issues and look forward to talking to you further. Absolutely. Great. And folks, I wanna thank you for joining us as well. And I do wanna encourage you once again to be praying for the situation, very volatile, but there's also light at the end of the tunnel here as the world fueled in large part by believers understand what is happening here and the clarity of President Trump. I think there is a way for a managed peace in the days ahead, but it's gonna take bold leadership covered by significant prayer. So I encourage you to be praying. All right, folks, that's all we have time for today. Thank you for joining us as we have been broadcasting here from the CBN studios in Jerusalem. Till next time, just keep standing.
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