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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Well, when we went to bed last night, it looked like we were optimistically confident at a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. That is still in place, but it is certainly shaky, to say the least. As best as I can understand it, Iran sent a lone rocket towards Israel. Israel, of course, intercepted it, thankfully. But then Israel unleashed hell on Iran. And President Trump is not happy. He is headed to the NATO summit. You could tell he, well, I guess you could always understand how angry somebody is when they drop the F-bomb. All the things I've done in my career, I've never had to bleep a president. I mean, this is him intentionally talking to reporters moments ago as he boarded Marine One. But his characterization is perfect. It's pitch perfect. This is what's so hard about the Middle East. They've been fighting so long, and they've been fighting so hard and so blindly, they don't know what they're doing. They don't know up from down. And he's mad about it. He doesn't understand it. Ceasefire was in place. A missile goes from, you know, Iran to Israel. Israel says, okay, here we go. And they unleash hell. And Trump hates it. So much so that he actually used the F word, which of course we will dutifully bleep here on the Mike Gallagher show.
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and the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace?
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Yeah, I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it, too. Are you questioning if Israel is committed to the peace? Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f*** they're doing. Do you understand that?
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Ouch. Holy cow. Never heard him fired up like that. I mean, he gets, he's pretty, you know, for all of the bluster and all of the bravado, he's relatively measured. You know what I mean? He doesn't really, and I don't know that that isn't measured either. He's just saying, you know what? These guys have got to stop messing around. They've got to calm down, he said. And they've got to knock it off. And it sounds to me like he's more frustrated with Israel than he is Iran. Do you get that take? It sounds to me like that's the issue here, that Israel overreacted. And, of course, one wonders, well, what's Iran doing? If there's a ceasefire, then make sure that the ceasefire is in place and you honor the ceasefire. So, you know, let's get your take on all of it. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. We're in the Relief Factor studios. This is a fluid situation. This is a situation that is ever-evolving. This is a situation that is difficult and complicated. Look, I'm going to tell you something. There are going to be people that don't like his use of The F word. And I get it. It's not genteel. It's not, you know, professional. It's not presidential, perhaps. But people are saying to me already, that's what I voted for. This is who I voted for. This is a guy who said, I've had it. I'm mad at both of them. They got to stop it. They got to grow up. honor the ceasefire, and let's achieve peace in a region of the world where peace is very scarce. And I appreciate that sentiment. I really do. I understand that frustration. And he's so right. They have been fighting for so long, they don't know what they're doing. And, all right, so a stupid missile, a stupid rocket... gets headed into Israel, Israel overreacts, and he's mad at both of them. That's what I voted for. And if anybody can untangle this, it's this guy. I think he can. I believe in him. I trust Trump. I trust this guy. But let's see what you think. I don't think you should ever bet against this guy. Because he is pulling off, I saw an article this morning, oh, the stock market just refuses to collapse. The stock market just keeps getting better and better. We don't know why. There's a confidence in his leadership that is never reflected in the mainstream media. And there's a confidence in his ability to sort this out. But maybe not. Maybe not. Look, there's people going at it tooth and nail. Have you seen the battle between Mark Levin and Marjorie Taylor Greene? Holy cow. It's ugly. It's rough. There's a lot of rough stuff going on right now. But during these difficult times, I turn my sights to you. I turn my lonely eyes to you. To quote Mrs. Robinson, 800-655-MIKE. 13 minutes past the hour. One number does it all. You can text us. You can call us. I want to put your voice front and center and get your take on everything that's going through the the whole process right now of this ceasefire. And, of course, last night they were just rooting against America. There was a moment on CNN where Caitlin Collins was bagging on Trump, and then Anderson Cooper had to interrupt her and say, well, we have a ceasefire. And they didn't know what to do. And they all look constipated. It was actually kind of fun to watch CNN last night because they look aggravated at the prospect of a ceasefire. They're rooting for everything to fall apart. And that's all right. Ignore them. Focus on the peacemakers. And focus on the chief peacemaker right now, Donald J. Trump. Let's see if you have the same take as I do. 800-655-6453. PhD weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Well, in a first, perhaps, the President of the United States dropped the F-bomb on the lawn of the White House today. Earlier, he was boarding Marine One, and he had a little media scrum talking about Operation Midnight Hammer and the tenuous, somewhat shaky truce, if you will. There seems to be an effort at peace and a ceasefire between Israel and Iran until, evidently, Iran sent one missile Israel's way. Israel intercepted it, and then they unleashed hell, and President Trump is very unhappy about all of it. He, in fact, got so... He's so angry, he literally used the F word that we will dutifully bleep because of FCC regulations. But first, here's the good part. Well, it's all pretty good. Look, people heard him say what he said about the Middle East, and they instinctively said, that's what I voted for. That's what, not necessarily the curse word, but somebody who's fed up with two sides who have been fighting so hard and for so long, they don't even know which is up and which is down. Here was President Trump praising the pilots who participated in the enormously successful Operation Midnight Hammer, and then he goes on a rant about CNN and MSNBC.
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I think it's been completely demolished. I think the reason we're here is because those pilots, those P-2 pilots did an unbelievable job. And, you know, the fake news, like CNN in particular, they're trying to, you know, they're trying to say, well, I agree that it was destroyed, but maybe not that destroyed. You know what they're doing? They're really hurting great pilots that put their lives on the line. CNN is scum. And so is MSDNC. They're all. And frankly, the networks aren't much better. It's all fake news. But they should not have done that. Those pilots hit their targets, those targets were obliterated, and the pilots should be given credit. They're not after the pilots, they're after me. They want to try and demean me. You don't believe that Iran can rebuild its nuclear program? Iran will never rebuild its nuclear. From there? Absolutely not. That place is under rock. That place is demolished. The B-2 pilots did their job. They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening. It was dark with no moon, and they hit that target with every one of those things, and that place is gone. But when I see CNN all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought. It was demolished. You take a look at the pinpricks, and you see that place is gone. And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B-2s I think that MSNBC ought to apologize. I think these guys really, these networks and these cable networks are real losers.
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Okay, so he's aggravated with CNN and MSNBC, but he's really upset and angry, actually, at Israel and Iran for evidently violating the ceasefire.
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Do you believe that Iran is still committed to peace?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I do. They violated, but Israel violated it, too. Are you questioning if Israel is committing a crime? Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f*** they're doing. Do you understand that?
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Yikes. Ouch. Been fighting so long and so hard. that they do not know what they're doing. And he's mad. I mean, we're close. And believe me, even a shaky ceasefire, even a tenuous, tension-filled ceasefire is better than where we were. And it doesn't help that his critics are on his back actually rooting for America to fail. So that's sort of the latest breaking news on a big breaking news day. There's also a big, big election in New York City. And what New Yorkers are being asked to consider is pretty bleak. Pretty bleak. A radical... Foreign socialist who's only been an American citizen for a few years, a former rap artist who has captivated the likes of AOC and Letitia James and all the rest of the zanies in New York. His name is Mamdani, Zoran Mamdani. And polls are suggesting that he is going to win the New York City, not the mayoral race, but the primary race. for the Democrat side of the aisle. And if that happens, the conventional wisdom is the Democrat is going to win. It's New York. Now, Curtis Lewa is a law and order guy. He's a Republican who has made a lifetime out of fighting the bad guys. And there are a lot of bad guys in New York. I took the subway three times. Ask me how many people I watched jump the turnstile. You know, you've got to pay to ride the subway, like you've got to pay to ride a bus. Oh, no, no, no, but Mamdami wants all public transportation free. Nobody has to pay to take anything in New York, in this guy's world. This guy is such a lunatic, he actually believes that the police should be removed from high-crime neighborhoods of New York City, replaced with social workers. He wants city-run grocery stores because, you know, the government runs things so well, so efficiently. Why not a grocery store? This guy is pro-intifada. I mean, every radical box that you could check, Mamdami favors. And it's, I'll be honest with you, it's really scary to think that this guy could possibly win. That is absolutely terrifying. That is absolutely terrifying. horrifying to think that New York could become London. I've got a friend who lives in London, and he and his wife have to leave because London has become, in their words, a cesspool. And they've got, I guess, a similar kind of mayor in London. I keep telling myself there is no way the voters of New York could be this stupid. And look, they can't really be blamed for having to make a bad choice, because Andrew Cuomo was run out of the governor's office in disgrace, right? A scandal-played governor. But at least he's not... a completely unhinged wolf in sheep's clothing who has captured hearts and minds because he's charismatic and appealing to young people and he smiles a lot and says all free stuff. We're going to give you free stuff. We're going to get rid of the police. We're going to have free bus rides and subway rides. No wonder people are jumping the turnstiles. And every time they do it, four times I saw it in just one short, kind of a long weekend when I was in New York. Four different people, all well-dressed. These weren't homeless people. These were like well-dressed people who could, what is it, guys, to take a subway?
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$2.90.
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And you could say, well, it's $2.90. Well, no, you're stealing. You're robbing the city. You might as well get in a cab, have the taxi driver take you from 8th Avenue over to 10th Avenue, and then get out and not pay for it. Why not? Why not? You're entitled to it. It's New York. Jump the turnstiles. Nobody's going to stop you. And I hate saying this. I posted it earlier this morning. If New Yorkers are gullible enough to vote for this guy... They're going to deserve every bit of the misery they get. And I hate that for them. There's a lot of wonderful people who live in New York. I've lived my whole life wanting to work and live in New York. I got to do it. I love the city in many ways. But I'm embarrassed that this guy's even in contention. Can you believe that that's even a possibility? And I know that they're... liberal i know they're leftists in new york i get it but they can't be this dumb 800-655 mike 17 past the hour in the relief factor studios welcome aboard we got a lot of breaking news today to cover on this tuesday we're glad you're here 800-655-6453 hope you join us people are changing portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Well, we went to bed last night thinking there was a ceasefire. There still is, technically. Evidently, Iran launched a missile towards Israel, which was intercepted or didn't go anywhere. Then Israel responded militarily. President Trump not too happy about all that. He heads off to NATO, the NATO summit, with hopes of keeping this ceasefire intact. The New York Times ran a headline in the middle of the night, both Israel and Iran have confirmed the ceasefire. But, you know, from a practical point of view, it doesn't sound like they're applying it. It's like everything else in the Middle East with military escalation and conflict. It's a mess. They don't know what they're doing, to paraphrase President Trump. In fact, he made a lot of headlines. You better buckle up because you're going to be hearing a lot of bleeps on the evening news. President Trump had a profane way of describing Trump. the way these two sides have been fighting for so long and so hard. But look, a lot of people last night and still today have egg on their face. There's kind of a World War V going on between people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Mark Levin and Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson. We've got prominent people... who are really at each other's throats. At one point, Mark Levin said of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, nice of you to come crawling out from under your rock once in a while. And she's insulting him, and he's insulting her. Look, that's not helpful. I think everybody ought to just calm down a little bit. Trust the president. You know, it's notable to me that the people that are fighting amongst themselves all say they support Donald Trump. So trust him. I don't think he wants this kind of infighting. I don't know. Maybe he does. I know there are bosses who like dissent, and he's been described that way. I've worked for brilliant people who like fighting among the ranks. Because the boss thinks that conflict and agitation brings out the best scenario, the best-cased scenario. It brings out, you know... clarity, and often that's the path to take. And maybe Trump's like that. Maybe he doesn't mind. I mean, I'm reading this back and forth on X between Mark Levin and Marjorie Taylor Greene. It looks like something out of a movie. It's like the War of the Roses. And, you know, Mark is still getting after Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson is claiming he doesn't know who Laura Loomer is. Laura Loomer is on his back. I mean, there's just a lot of drama right now. And here is some drama that I enjoyed. I admit I kind of liked watching CNN last night after the ceasefire was announced because they all looked uncomfortable. They all looked like they were ready to, like, throw up. And Caitlin Collins is here in the United States. Anderson Cooper is over in Israel. Caitlin Collins starts bagging on Trump. Oh, you know, it's not going to work. Doubts about it and all that. There's not going to be any kind of ceasefire. Ceasefire, shmeeshfire. There's no ceasefire. And then Anderson Cooper, I mean, this is embarrassing. You can't make this stuff up. Caitlin Collins had just questioned Trump's ceasefire deal. And mid-sentence, practically, Anderson Cooper cuts in with breaking news. You want to check this out, because this was classic.
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Now, we're hearing incredibly optimistic views coming out of the White House as far as how long this can hold and what this is going to look like. That obviously still remains to be seen on the implementation side of this and waiting to see if the firing does stop and if Iran and Israel do both agree to this. Because, you know, speaking of the fluidity of the situation, it was just 24 hours ago that President Trump himself was suggesting a reelection. regime change in Iran was a possibility. And obviously, right before that, having the United States strike Iran. And so, yes, there have been a lot of phone calls going back and forth. In part, this has to do with Iran's limited response earlier, where they fired on a U.S. base in Qatar. But there were no casualties. We know that they did give a heads up that they were going to be firing on U.S. bases without exactly specifying. specifying which ones. But that is the question here, is if the United States felt that it did not need to respond to the Iranian retaliation, did that create the space for this? That is what we've been hearing from administration officials. And so the question is whether or not this still holds for the next few hours.
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Caitlin, I've just been given word that Iran, according to a diplomat who briefed CNN, Iran has agreed to the ceasefire. So this is significant. I just want to try to learn some more information as soon as we get it about that. But if that is the case, that's incredibly significant because that is we were waiting. We had not heard from Iran. We had not heard from from Israel. All we were going on so far has been the president's social media post, which was some two hours ago. Iran has agreed to this.
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Oops! 9-1-1? I'd like to report a murder. A narrative just got killed in real time. Poor Caitlin Collins looks like she's ready to start crying. She just does look on her face like... I mean, I can almost hear the producer in Anderson Cooper's IFB. I could just hear them in his earpiece. Stop her! Stop her! Cease fire! Cease fire! There's a cease fire! Tell her! Stop her! Oh, that was good. Now, she referenced Trump floating the idea of regime change with the Iranians. He's on the plane heading over to the NATO summit. Thanks to technology, we already get video clips when he holds little impromptu press conferences on board Air Force One, and he was asked about regime change moments ago.
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Do you want to see regime change in Iran? If there was, there was. But no, I don't want it. I'd like to see everything calm down as quickly as possible. Regime change takes chaos. And ideally, we don't want to see so much chaos. So we'll see how it does. You know, the Iranians are very good traders, very good business people. And they got a lot of oil. They should be fine. They should be able to rebuild and do a good job. They're never going to have nuclear, but other than that, they should do a great job.
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Now, he seems a little less angry than he was when he was getting ready to board Marine One this morning. to get over to Air Force One for the flight over to the NATO summit, he let loose. And boy, did he ever. Don't worry, we'll bleep the F-bomb, but he lets loose with an F-bomb, sort of, I think, summarizing his frustration with both Israel and Iran.
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Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the sea?
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Yeah, I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it, too. Okay. Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. Ouch!
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I saw somebody posted already that they want that to be their ringtone. They don't know what the blank they're doing. They don't know what the blank they're doing. That would be the ringtone. I kind of like that ringtone. Might offend people who hear my phone go off. Somebody else posted, this is what I say when I'm trying to potty train two toddlers at the same time. They don't know what the blank they're doing. All right, let me just turn it over to you. 800-655-MIKE. We've got a lot to absorb today. There's a lot of breaking news. Clearly, Trump wants peace in the Middle East. He's working hard to try to achieve that lofty goal. He does not seem to want to disparage Iran too much. We've done the damage. We took out their nuclear ambitions. Israel, it sounds like he thinks Israel overreacted to one missile. And I just want everybody to take a big, deep breath here. I urge my fellow Americans who are on the side of President Trump to stop fighting with each other. There just seems to be so much personal animosity between some of these high-profile people. And look, I'm going to be honest, I like them all. I don't know about you, but I like all of these folks. Levin and Tucker and Laura Loomer and Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Greene. They are going at it like it is a showdown at the OK Corral. And that's not good either. I don't like any of that. But let me just get your take of where you think we are now. Where should we be? You know, and I don't want to rehash the feud between Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene and Mark Levin, but are you with Mark? Are you with her? Do you think we've got no business being in it in any way? There's a poll that came out that says 90% of MAGA, 90% of Trump supporters are with Donald J. Trump. Do you buy that? 800-655-MIKE. 17 past the hour. We're in the Relief Factor studios. Give me a reaction to all of it here on this Breaking News Tuesday. We've got a lot to track down together, don't we? 800, also big primary day in New York City. God help New York if they put that lunatic socialist at the top of the Democrat ticket. If that guy becomes the mayor of New York... You can kiss it goodbye. That place is going to turn into a hellscape. Guarantee it. Guarantee it. But young people who want free stuff, they like the guy. No more fares for buses or subways. Homeless people camping out in the subway stations. Grocery stores run by the city and no police in rough neighborhoods. Oh, yeah, it's going to go great. That'll go real well with a good old Zoran if he gets elected. 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. Call or text. We want to put your voice front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Charlie Kirk just posted something that is so accurate about the educated dummies in New York who are supporting this socialist. And this is he wrote a great book. I think it's called Campus Battlefield. It's a must read about the pitfalls of higher education. And Charlie points out, the Muslim socialist running for New York City mayor, Zorhan Mamdami, is so obviously a con man, the only people dumb enough to support him are college educated. And he cites a poll from Emerson College that shows how college educated New Yorkers are apparently supporting the guy. And Charlie points out, This poll is the single most damning indictment of higher education in America that I've seen. Charlie calls him Mohammed Mao. It's just a great nickname for this guy. And the truth of the matter is that some of the dumbest people in the country are people with college degrees. A lot of the No Kings protesters, they're all white boomers. And I guarantee every one of them has a degree. Maybe from an Ivy League college. They lack complete and total common sense. They're entitled. They're arrogant. They're obnoxious. They think that college degree... gives them some sort of a lease on ultimate knowledge. And they're clowns. Honestly, some of the dumbest people I know are some of the most highly educated. I know it's a bias that I have because of my story. I mean, you know, 17, 18-year-old kid getting a job in radio, and I tried to go to school, tried to go to college. I broke my mother's heart because I'd rather be at the radio station working. And she says, yeah, but you've got to go to physics class. You want to be a broadcaster, you've got to get a college degree. Well, Mom, I am a broadcaster. I'm 19 now. I've got a talk show. I'm working. If I go to school, I won't be at the station to work. So my story, and you know me, I don't think, believe me, there's plenty of smart people who I admire and listen to with a college education. I am not disparaging a college education. But I also, frankly, like people like me who made it by working hard in the field we wanted to work in, and scrapping and fighting and climbing a ladder of our career path. And so it doesn't surprise me, I guess, but Charlie's right. If it's true that college-educated New Yorkers, white college, incidentally, it's white college-educated New Yorkers, black polling and Hispanic, Cuomo's way ahead. But for white college-educated New Yorkers, this is the guy. God help New York. God help New York. I know we make fun. We beat them up. I would just be sick to see what's going to happen. Yes, city-run grocery stores. John Katsimatidis, who owns the Gristiti supermarket chain, flat out said, look, this guy wins, we're out. We will pull all of our Gristiti supermarkets out of New York City. We'll go to Jersey. We'll go to Connecticut. We'll go somewhere else. Ron DeSantis joked this morning that if the guy were to win, that's great for Florida because the housing market will boom in Florida. We'll have condo prices. Look, maybe I'll finally sell my condo. Because somebody in New York is going to say, uh-uh, I'd rather be on the water, put my feet up and, you know, enjoy the sunshine and the freedom of the state of Florida. The exodus from New York City, I think, will be profound. Now, then again, every time people think that happens, it doesn't because, well, it's New York. But maybe it just gets to be too much with this guy. We'll see. I'm praying. And I'm real serious here. I am praying that even New Yorkers are rational enough to reject this level of radicalism. And I hope and pray that even Democrats who are terrified to walk in the streets... of New York City these days understand that a guy who promises to pull police out of high-crime neighborhoods and replace them with social workers is not going to be a good idea. What is a good idea is working with a CPA who can get you a financial plan and a tax savings strategy that works. Many thanks to Dean Owen. We're going to start visiting with Dean regularly. We had so much breaking news. We were going to have him on the show today. We're going to have him on later this week because I want you to meet him. He's a real fascinating guy. First of all, great, strong opinions. He's a patriot. He's a veteran. He loves the Lord. He's a great guy. He's my CPA, and I wish I had met him years ago. I'd have a lot more money in the bank. Accounting Today has ranked M. Dean Owens' CPA as one of the top accountants in America because he's great at helping you reduce your tax burden and building a financial and tax plan aligned with your goals and values. So take control of your financial future. My CPA... can be your CPA, too. Call Dean Owen, 270-554-0720. Call 270-554-0720 or visit owencpa.com. Let someone who shares your faith and values help you secure the future you deserve. owencpa.com. Gary's in Portland, Oregon. Hey, Gary, welcome. Thanks for your patience. How you doing?
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Hey, Mike, good job. Welcome from the greatest, the most beautiful state in the Union. This is a biblical war, and a lot of people are reacting to it in a lot of biblical senses. This is David against the Philistines. It's so Old Testament. that it's really drawn a lot of people's emotions out deeper than they normally are. And I think that's what we're seeing with a lot of these, you know, like Tucker and Cruz. It was wrong for Tucker to laugh at him, but it's bringing a lot of people's deepest beliefs out. because this is God against evil.
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This is what's so important. Gary, I'm so glad you reminded me of the need to completely and consistently remind everyone we are in spiritual warfare right now. This is not just Democrats versus Republicans. When you're seeing people march around with pro-Hamas signs, when people are praising evil, When people want to destroy police departments in cities like... This is evil. This is terrible, terrible. And the good thing is, we know how this ends. We really do, Gary. We've got to remember how the story ends. Let's never forget that good always triumphs over evil. It may take a while, but good will prevail. So pray for New York today. Pray that they get it right. And again, I'm sorry that you've got to pray for Cuomo. But on the other hand... as bad as he is, as bad as his record has been, you can't go with somebody worse like this Mamdani. We'll know tomorrow. Great job to the team. Thank you, Tracy, Eric, Christian, Joey, Roger, everybody. Who did I leave out? Eric, have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America. walk into the studio and people are mad at you. Boy, what have you done?
SPEAKER 07 :
People are fired up. Oh, Lordy. Oh, for being real mellow, for being mellow and all THC'd up. Those are some testy kiddies, man, when you come after their THC.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're not happy with you. Walk in, Mike, you've got to talk Mark off the ledge on this THC issue. He's making a fool of himself. He's going to lose his listeners. Why does he think he's morally superior? I mean, look, don't shoot the messenger.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's not about me. It's not about my morals or my thoughts. Although, guess what? Without making it about me, is it a more moral and better society that doesn't legalize more intoxicants? I'd say yes, it is. Is it a more moral society that prevents babies from being murdered? Do you think I'm being holier than thou or self-righteous when I talk about protecting the unborn? Give me a king-size break. Can I ask you something that's not about taking a side on that? Because I don't know if you want to. I don't really want to. Okay. I know. I know my buddy. I know my buddy. Well, look, there's a bigger issue in Texas. But here's the thing, since this will be a whole lot of the rest of today's show, as Lieutenant Governor Patrick is with us at 835 and Michael Quinn Sullivan, 905. You're fresh back from New York. You're fresh back from New York. I've been a few times. I don't go as often as you, but we've been a few times. And it is just palpable and noticeable how much of the magnificent island of Manhattan now reeks of weed.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's like you're under a constant marijuana cloud on every corner. People smoking it just on the street corners. It smells like pot everywhere you go. And, of course, these cannabis stores are proliferating all over Manhattan. Mm-hmm. And it's happening all over the country. I mean, I'm afraid the ship has sailed. I could be wrong. I don't know if you can put the toothpaste back into the tube. But speaking of New York, there is a major, major epic thing that's happening today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. I wanted to read my mind. The election. The mayor of New York City is a big it's a big job. It's our biggest city. It's who the who the mayor of New York City is kind of matters on a national scale for reasons I know we can examine. But tell everybody the big personalities involved in this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there's only one that we need to be worried about and actually terrified about. His name is Zoran Mondami. He's been an American citizen for only seven years. He's a former rapper who had his rap career funded by his wealthy mama. This is a Muslim, defund the police, far-left activist. Socialist. Actual socialist. a literal socialist who is charming, you know, smiles big, bright smile. He's captivated, you know, young people who love AOC and Bernie. He's a stop the oligarchs kind of a guy. He's also a guy who believes that the police need to be removed from, check this, high crime areas of New York City. That's good. He wants the police taken out of the high crime neighborhoods and replaced with social workers. Mm-hmm. Honest to gosh, that's a true position. He wants to open city-run grocery stores because government does things so well already. You know, you go to the DMV. I mean, you know just how perfect this is going to be. Take a number and get a ribeye over in aisle four run by the city of New York. This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing if there ever was one. The problem is... The choice in New York is just awful because it's either him or Cuomo. Cuomo is back from the dead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Andrew Cuomo, who was governor and that just imploded on him for covid mismanagement and a number of other things. That's the choice. Isn't his name big enough? Aren't our memories short enough? And doesn't he and his whole family name, with his dad Mario Cuomo, brother Chris doing yeoman's work on a cable network that's trying to be semi-even-handed, isn't he a big enough deal that he's going to cruise? Isn't this his race to lose?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's not what the polls are saying. I know, and I'm confused. The polls are saying Mamdami has surged ahead, that he's captive. A lot of young people are voting crazily, and of course they are. You know, why wouldn't they?
SPEAKER 07 :
Are they? Well, we're going to see. Has a basic thing in American life changed? It's an old James Carville quote. It says, yeah, there's a name for a party that depends on the youth vote. Loser. Because the theory was that young people just don't vote with much energy. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Speaking of guys with accents, I'm going to play, I think, the whole 13-minute rant from Dr. Phil about the state of today's Democrat Party. Dr. Phil, of all people, just says, look, today's party is unrecognizable. They are pro-Hamas. They're anti-law enforcement. They're pro-open borders. It's unrecognizable. And Dr. Phil has a moment of sanity. Look, let's just hope New Yorkers have a moment of clarity. I'm not a Cuomo fan for obvious reasons, but I'll tell you something. If this guy somehow winds up as the mayor of New York City, I'm not kidding you, Mark. Kiss it goodbye. It would be awful. This guy, first of all, NBC of all places found what a fake he is. He talks like Middle Eastern. It's unbelievable. What? Yep. Well, he's a Muslim.
SPEAKER 07 :
So he goes into a mosque and all of a sudden, oh, I'm so glad to be here. What? Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. It's like Obama at a black church.
SPEAKER 08 :
absolutely he's got a bunch of fake accents oh my gosh oh no this guy but but more than that i mean it's it's not the muslim thing uh you know and of course his defenders say oh you know the the racist bigots don't like has nothing to do with the fact he's muslim has to do with all of his terrible destructive policies all you gotta know is he wants police removed from high crime neighborhoods all
SPEAKER 07 :
Listen, Bernie could be running for mayor of New York, a white man, and his ideas are just as bad, and we'd be just as upset about that. Last thing on this, because here's another thing that is kind of important around the country, because here's another thing that's catching on, and I wish it would die. Ranked choice voting. I know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that's a Lisa Murkowski trick. It's insane.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's what she got done. For those that don't, usually it's like, for today's election, for the Democrats, of course, you got Cuomo, you got this guy. The independent candidacy will be Eric Adams. Why did he...
SPEAKER 08 :
leave the why did he well they're mad at him because he embraced law and order and the democrat establishment got mad at him and kicked basically kicked him out does he have a is he thus crippled running as an independent or does he have a chance no no i don't think he has a chance at all and and i'm what i'm hopeful about and i'm probably this is wishful thinking curtis lewa on the republican side curtis if new yorkers get are fed up enough with crime and they are I mean, it's it's really bad. I mean, it's I'll tell you this. This just getting back last night by way of Orlando because of, again, a diverted plane because of a storm. And you should have seen that conversation. We landed Orlando. I'm literally in the first row of the plane right by the door.
SPEAKER 07 :
Of course you are.
SPEAKER 08 :
and we have to get diverted to Orlando because there's a thunderstorm over Tampa. And I get that. That's not their fault. All right, we're going to run out of fuel, so we've got to divert to Orlando. I'm thinking, crap, here we go again. So they pull up to the gate, and the flight attendant is talking to the pilot, and the pilot's saying, well, I don't want them to get off here. We're just going to fuel and go. We're going to fuel and go. Well, they pull up to the gate. They open the door. The door is five feet from me. I have my carry-on bag because all I want to do is get off the plane, rent a car, and drive because it's only an hour and ten minute drive. Well, pilot doesn't want to let anybody off.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no, no. And so then this sassy gate agent comes onto the plane.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I love the sassy gate agent.
SPEAKER 08 :
I love this. And the sassy gate agent takes control and says, look, you want to get off? Make sure you get all your bags and get off. And I loved it. I wanted to give the guy a big hug because he overruled the pilot basically and said, yeah, we're going to be here long enough. So you did that? I'm off the plane, rented a car, got to Tampa, was in bed by 1030. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know this is weird because you should be able to get off a plane where you're no longer a terrorist. But aren't airlines, don't airlines just have a horrible bugaboo? About people interrupting their flight, getting off where they're not supposed to get off, getting on where you're not supposed to get off. Anything you do that interrupts the exact letter of your reservation gives the airlines 14 heart attacks. Haven't you found that to be true?
SPEAKER 08 :
Let me give you the airline rule. They can do whatever they really want to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, there you are.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's like when they close the door when they're leaving.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you're late, they can open the door again.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm standing there, but you'll be told they can't. You come up to the gate. You're running late. We've all done this. Can't do it. Can't open the door. They just closed the door. They're still five minutes from backing out, but they just closed the door. You're standing there. That's right. I'm looking at the plane. Here's my ticket. Let me on.
SPEAKER 08 :
They go, nope. They'll tell you that it's like some hermetically sealed thing from Harry Potter, that once the door is closed, you can't break the seal.
SPEAKER 07 :
If they open it back again, the spirits of death will come in and wrap themselves around and kill the passenger.
SPEAKER 08 :
The dormitores or whatever they are that fly around will come down and suck out your soul. Oh, no. They can open the door if they want to. Of course they can. And incidentally, I've watched... And the reason I know it is because I've seen them do it. They'll do it if they want to. So you know what they did yesterday? The Sassy Gate agent had no problem. But now there was a system, I will tell you. You just don't walk off. You've got to go to... He took your driver's license and checked me out of the flight in Orlando. So yeah, you just can't leave. Because you're right. Technically, you're booked all the way to Tampa. You just can't walk away. So anyway... But anyhow, got home, settled in, and just absorbing, praying for New York, and I'm praying for the Middle East. I've never had to dump, use my 10-second dump on a president of the United States before. This morning, President Trump... let it loose he is obviously ticked look dad is dad is home and he's mad that's it uh he daddy's pissed and he is not thrilled with it it sounds like an errant rocket came out of iran didn't go anywhere they intercepted it well that just ticked off israel and so they replied now unloaded They want to unleash holy hell now on Iran, and Trump is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop it, stop it, stop it. We've got to cease fire here. What are you doing? Cut it out, cut it out, cut it out. And you could tell in the comments that you played a few moments ago that President Trump alluded to the fact that it sounds like one errant missile maybe. Look, if Iran is going to break the cease fire, they're not going to have one little dinky missile. I would think that. It's going to be a barrage.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would.
SPEAKER 08 :
So something went wrong somewhere. Something happened. And now Israel is like, oh, no. No, you don't. And here we go. And President Trump, he says it so perfectly because he's right. They have been fighting for so long and for so hard. They don't know what the blank they're doing. And he's right. And it's got to stop. And so, look, this is definitely a shaky ceasefire, I would concede. But it's also arguably Trump's finest hour because, as you so perfectly put it, it's a heck of a lot better than raging all-out war right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
But what's better than a ceasefire?
SPEAKER 08 :
An unconditional surrender.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mark Levin is right. As lovely as a ceasefire is compared to missiles flying back and forth, peace is not what you get when everybody just stops firing off rockets. That's not peace. Peace is what you get when the good guys finally win.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mark Levin has been getting a lot of flack for saying, I hate that phrase, ceasefire. But you're right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't hate it, but it's unfortunate if we look at ceasefire and go, oh, good, we're done here. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're not done. But speaking of Mark Levin, are you seeing the back and forth between him and Marjorie Taylor Greene? Holy moly. They are going at it. I mean, it is brutal. And Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's just all in against him.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, our intervention and... Matt Walsh did not go full Tucker in his post, but overnight he said that Trump is better equipped to handle this than anybody else. It's great that this has gone so... But now I want to pull completely back and just... I'm going to pull out of this completely and just pay attention to America's own problems. Dude, a nuclear Iran is an American problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
problem that full-on interventionism lindsey graham style that's not smart so equally unwise is sticking your head in the sand that's right well axios has a headline trump's swings on iran leave maga with whiplash oh we don't know where to get baloney a poll came out last night 90 of maga supports what trump is doing for full shows live and on demand it's salem news channel
As we mark the third anniversary of the Dobbs decision, the fight for life continues unabated. Senator James Lankford offers a deep dive into the cultural and legal battles following the landmark ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade. The dialogue unpacks how chemical abortions are altering the landscape of reproductive rights in America, while emphasizing the cultural transformations needed to sustain long-term change. Don't miss the insights from experts advocating for human rights and purity of policy in Washington.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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The president secured a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, and despite of the temporary disruption this morning, we believe that will hold. Peace in the Middle East has never been closer within our grasp. And that is something that we should all embrace and applaud.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today. Welcome to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Coming up on this program, New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, a senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, will join us with the latest out of the Middle East. And today marks the third anniversary of the Supreme Court's historic decision overturning Roe v. Wade, though not everyone is celebrating.
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Today marks a grim anniversary in America, three years since the MAGA justices on the Supreme Court eliminated the protections of Roe in the disastrous, horrible, nasty Dobbs decision.
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That was Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York. We'll be joined by Oklahoma Senator James Lankford for a closer look at what still needs to be done in the fight for life. And later, Dr. Albert Moeller, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, will help us assess where the pro-life movement stands three years after Dobbs and where it must go from here. Now, this may surprise you. Maybe not. But since the overturn of Roe v. Wade three years ago, the number of abortions in the U.S. has actually increased. That's right, increased. And one of the major reasons is the widespread availability of the abortion pill, a chemical drug regimen that is both dangerous and deadly. And new research reveals its side effects are impacting more than just the women who take it and their babies. It's actually affecting families and communities as well. John Stemberger, president of Liberty Council Action, is here to walk us through the details. And a quick reminder, your voice and your values matter more now than ever. For over 40 years, Family Research Council has stood strong in our nation's capital, defending faith, family, and freedom. And as we approach the end of our fiscal year, you can help us finish strong. And thanks to a generous matching challenge from supporters, every gift you give this week will be doubled. So to make your gift, give us a call, 800-225-4008. We have team members standing by to take your call. Again, that's 800-225-4008. Stand with us, and together, let's be a voice for truth. Well, the Trump administration says the ceasefire between Iran and Israel is in effect. Earlier this morning, President Trump expressed deep frustration with both sides for violating the agreement he brokered. The Trump administration was scheduled to hold separate classified briefings with members of the Senate and the House today regarding Iran and Israel. However, both briefings were postponed until later in the week. Joining us now is Congressman Chris Smith, senior member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. of New Jersey. Congressman Smith, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always good to see you. Always great to see you too, Tony. Thank you for having me on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I'm going to get your reactions to the ceasefire. The president announced the ceasefire. A little frustrated this morning. It looked like it had been violated, but it appears to be holding.
SPEAKER 11 :
It sure does. You know, I've never known a ceasefire that goes flawlessly day by day. I remember in the war in Yugoslavia, former Yugoslavia, every other day the ceasefire was being abridged. So hopefully this will stick, but there will probably be a few instances where it's not in the future. We need to stay on point and get... to hopefully a diplomatic solution after the tremendous work that President Trump did to take out the nuclear capability. And we think he took out most of it, hopefully all of it, by the Iranians.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, Congressman Smith, you're a senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. You've been there for a long time. You've watched the events in the Middle East. How significant of a moment is this that we're in presently?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it's a watershed moment. If we are able, our administration, working with the Israelis, to take away the nuclear acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran. I mean, they have said repeatedly, death to America, death to Israel. They put it on their ballistic missiles. They mean it. I believe they mean it. And if they had the opportunity, Tel Aviv would be gone. Probably not Jerusalem because of the Dome of the Rock. but they would use them and use them with impunity. So the hope is that now that they have been defanged, and, you know, the whole idea of what Obama did, which really just delayed and enabled the mullahs to acquire these weapons. And everyone forgets, when John Kerry was negotiating this, and it was a very flawed deal, Ballistic missiles was on right there as part of the negotiation. They objected, and he agreed. They took ballistic missiles off the agreement. Are you kidding me? Why are you developing ballistic missiles? To someday mount a nuclear weapon on some, if not many of them, to destroy not just Israel, but they want the ICBM capability to hit America, to hit our European friends, to hit other nations in the Middle East, but to hit us, particularly on the East Coast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Congressman Smith, will this ceasefire allow the Iranian regime to retain power? I mean, they were looking for a diplomatic off ramp from the conflict.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Many are saying that a regime change is necessary to bring about the changes needed. What happens from here?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, my hope is, you know, in the past, when the Iranians have rebelled, as a matter of fact, infamously, our President Obama did nothing when they were calling out for help. You know, there have been times when the Iranian people rose up. But again, the guys with the bayonets and the guns, and all kinds of other instruments of torture and killing remains in the Iranian leadership's hands. Our hope is that this will lead to a gradual, or quick would be even better, change of regime, because again, they are the leading terrorist state in the world. Thankfully, three of their top, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis, have been dealt severe blows by, again, the Israelis and by ourselves. So, you know, the invincibility that this regime tried to portray to the world is anything but. But if they had nuclear weapons, their ability to extreme pain and cruelty, imposed cruelty, would be manifest. And so we've got to make sure that they never get them. I love what President Trump says repeatedly. They can never have or acquire a nuclear weapon, and they can't. They have demonstrated that they would use any means necessary. If they had them today, they would have been used.
SPEAKER 12 :
The briefing, classified briefing, has been postponed until later in the week. Open sources say that Israel was kind of targeting some of those repressive elements of the regime that you mentioned earlier. How much do we know in terms of the fragmentation of the repressive regime and their tentacles that have suppressed the people? Has that been dealt a blow?
SPEAKER 11 :
we it's a great question and you know i have not tomorrow or next day we'll get the the more classified briefing but we know that the israelis especially have taken out so many uh high value targets including the nuclear scientists including the top commanders uh in the revolutionary guard they have been systematic with assets on the ground particularly with mossad to take these killers out. And, you know, we stand, and I love that the president has said this as well, we stand with the Iranian people. They want peace. I know many of the diaspora here in the United States, this is not who they are. This is a radicalized, extreme, cruel group of people, thugs, if you will. So if they do get an agreement. I do think it's a matter of when and not if, that over time they will be replaced. So my hope is this will be one of those moments like we saw in Eastern Europe, when Poland matriculated to a democracy, as well as Romania and a lot of the other Central and European countries. Sadly, the changes that happened in Russia were not long staying. We now have Putin, of course. But my hope is that we will then work to work with them You know, that means trade deals and all of other things to make it so that the good people of Iran and not the thugs emerge. Yeah, I think it's they don't have that nuclear capability. I think we're talking, you know, and so much of their military capability has been degraded by the amazing work. of the Israeli Air Force.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think there's going to be a lot of discussion about what happens next, because I think the American approach in Afghanistan, this nation building idea, those failed. I think this has to come up from the people there themselves. And it doesn't have to require a lot from the United States. I think the sanctions should remain in place and be released as the people take control and we start to see them moving in the right directions. We reward good behavior by, as you said, economic development, welcoming them into the broader community. But I think it's going to take a very disciplined approach and a different approach than what we've taken in the past.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, that's true. And I think the enabling by the Biden administration and Obama before him, you know, historians will look back on that and wonder how could they have been so unbelievably naive? You know, I did multiple speeches and we had hearings on on the flawed nuclear deal as it was. being agreed to and then when it was agreed to and it was like this is nothing but a you know enabling them especially with sanctions relief and then the rest uh to continue as a terrorist state that will be nuclear armed someday and remember the agreement that obama agreed to by 2026 all bets were off so by next year even under that egregiously flawed agreement they could have been building nuclear weapons which is crazy it was absolutely crazy
SPEAKER 12 :
We just have about two and a half minutes left. I want to switch gears a little. Staying in the Middle East, but I want to look to Syria. No one has been more outspoken in the Congress than you when it comes to human rights and in protection of Christians. And over the weekend, an attack in Damascus, Syria, at a church where a gunman not only shot but then blew himself up, killing 25 and injuring another 63. I mean, what do we know about what's unfolding in Syria under the new leader?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the president has already reached out, as we all know, during his Saudi trip. My hope is that, you know, the Christians have suffered so much in the Middle East, including in Syria. The now deposed leader, who was a bloodthirsty tyrant, is gone. And the more we can, you know, promote peace, security for all, especially for the Christians who have suffered so much, the better. We don't want to see, you know, in that whole region, ISIS and all the other radical Islamists reemerge, and I don't think they will. So it was a very, very terrible thing. I saw it too, that news report. So hopefully we can do more to help. And you know, I'm working on a lot of human rights issues, especially as it relates to Azerbaijan and some of these other countries as to what they did to the Armenians. Not way back, that was horrible, but the Turks did way back. But what they're doing right now, they've committed genocide. against those living in Nagorno-Karabakh and multiple hearings on it, raised it over and over again. And I may be the only congressman who met with Aliyev, the president of Baku, of Azerbaijan, twice in country to argue with him about his very, very serious human rights abuses that he commits.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we've seen, of course, you've been very outspoken on Nigeria as well. My concern here in Syria is the government turning a blind eye to these, like in this case, an ISIS affiliated attacker, not doing it themselves, but allowing it. to occur. And so I appreciate you.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're right. And they've got to we've got to put more pressure. I mean, everywhere you look, it's like for the secretary of state, like drinking from a fire hose. There's so many crises, but we do have to pay attention to that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, America's a leader and we've got to speak out because people take note when we when we lead on these issues. Congressman Chris Smith, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you so much. And folks, I mean, that is an area of concern, to pray and to advocate for brothers and sisters, no matter where they're at. All right, don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Today marks the third anniversary of the Supreme Court decision that put the infamous Roe v. Wade ruling into the dustbin of history. The decision in Dobbs v. Jackson's Women's Health Clinic came after decades of efforts by pro-life advocates and is rightfully celebrated as the victory that it is. But many recognize that the fight for the unborn is not over. So what else needs to be done? Well, here to discuss this and more, U.S. Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma. He serves on four Senate committees, including Finance Committee and the Select Committee on Intelligence. Senator Lankford, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 16 :
You bet, Tony. Always good to see you.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, the third anniversary of Dobbs. This is big. I mean, this is something we prayed for, worked for, advocated for for many years. But I think in the three years since, we're realizing there's a lot of work that is left to be done, not just in policy. There's policy that needs to be done, but also the heart change needs to take place in our country as well.
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It is actually. And I try to remind people there's a difference between cultural change and legal changes. Legal changes actually move faster than cultural changes on it. But cultural changes are essential to actually communicate the value of every single child and to be able to pass that on generationally. And I compare this in some ways to our country almost 100 years ago, determining we're going to do prohibition. We're not going to allow the consumption or production of alcohol at all in the country. That constitutional amendment actually moved faster than any other constitutional amendment had ever been done rapidly through all the states. but then was unwound later because behavior didn't change, the culture didn't change, the law changed on it. And so for us, we should take that to heart to remember we still have a lot of work to do on culture on this. So the legal fight continues and we're winning that step by step. What we're losing in different states also shows we still got a lot of cultural work to do.
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Now, the numbers are hard to come by because the reporting is voluntary. But according to Guttmarker, the former policy arm of Planned Parenthood, the number of abortions in the country has actually risen since The Dobbs decision. We're actually seeing more abortions performed in this country, even though we've had like 41 states that have laws to varying degrees that protect the unborn and their mothers. One of the issues behind it is the abortion pill, chemical abortions that are actually being sent into these pro-life states.
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Yep, that is a driving force right now. The abortion industry, they're not gonna go down quietly on it. They make too much money by ending human life and this is their big goal. So we need to be able to be clear about what's happening and what they're doing to be able to promote abortion. As you mentioned, one of the key aspects is chemical abortions. They're mailing drugs into places and giving these to ladies and saying, these are as safe as Tylenol and you can just take these and it will end your pregnancy. And thousands and thousands of ladies are finding out this is not as safe as Tylenol. This has all kinds of side effects. And there's a lot of things that can happen, including dealing with fertility in the future. After this time period, depending on blood type, ectopic pregnancies, all the side effects. We have quite a few women that are in the emergency room with really dramatic hemorrhaging. So this is not Tylenol that's actually going out, but it is a way for the abortion industry to dramatically advance the number of abortions.
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I'm going to talk a little bit more about that later with Dr. Al Mohler. But this was set up and put in place, this universal accessibility to the abortion pills from the Biden administration during COVID. So that the restrictions that had been in place going all the way back to the Clinton administration in 2000, all of that was removed, including the in-person prescription, medical interaction with a doctor or medical provider. That's been removed. And then the the Comstock Act, which prohibited these things from being sent through the mail, that was by a Department of Justice, an opinion removed. But that's still in place. And that goes back to the Biden administration. So we're still operating under Biden era policy.
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Yep, it's an area that I've raised over and over again with HHS and with the leadership there and now with EPA as I'm raising that as well in a whole different issue. But the Comstock Act is the clearest one. You can't mail these chemical drugs across state lines. You can't do that through the United States Postal Service or any other carrier without violating federal law. The Biden administration said, well, you can ignore that because that was done a long time ago. Laws are still the law, no matter what day that they were actually put into place on that. So that is something that could be turned around by this administration. Then as you mentioned, multiple other issues, for instance, you don't have to go see a doctor on it. That was just done by Fiat. That can be turned around as well to be able to say, no, if you have an ectopic pregnancy, taking this chemical abortion pill can actually take your life as well. There is a reason you have to be able to go to a physician to get these drugs. You've got to know what date, how long you've been pregnant. You've got to know if you have an ectopic pregnancy. Testing blood type matters on this because you could deal with future fertility based on your blood type if you actually take this drug. So there's a lot of things that do warrant stopping by to be able to see a physician on. We want to be able to get those things back in place.
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Senator Langford, I want to get a readout from you on the reconciliation bill, the one big beautiful bill. But before I do, I know you made reference to this. We're going to go deeper into this in the next segment with John Stenberger. But you actually have legislation that deals with the issue he's going to bring up, and that is the abortion chemicals getting into our water supply.
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Right. Mifepristone is that abortion chemical that's out there that people take to actually end that pregnancy. But as gross as it sounds, much of our sewage water ends up being filtered and ends up being drinking water downstream. But that process doesn't take out everything. The PFAS, we talk about forever chemicals, that's still in the system. Medications often are still in the system or other chemicals that are in our sewage go straight into our streams and creeks. and it ends up going downstream. We have no idea the environmental impacts of omifepristone because the EPA has never studied that before. What happens when it gets recycled back into our drinking water? Does that affect future fertility? Can that cause miscarriages? We don't know because that's never been studied. So we are simply asking the question, we have a drug that is in our drinking water or heading into our lakes and streams, what environmental impacts does this have?
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. We're going to dig deeper into that, folks, in the next segment with John Stemberger. But, Senator, we've got just less than a minute left. The reconciliation bill, how's it looking?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, we've got a lot of work to do on it. We've got various pieces that have still got to get resolved. It's going to be drama all the way to the end. But the goal of this is we want to be able to prevent the largest tax increase in American history from starting in January. We're all on board with that. We've got to be able to reduce our spending. We have $2 trillion in overspending. We're all on board with that. We've got to be able to increase the spending that we're doing on the border to be able to make sure that what President Trump is doing on the border now stays that way for the future. We're all on board with that. There's some details. We're still working out on it. But our focus is to be able to get this done by July the 4th, and we continue to be able to do the work.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, Senator, it wouldn't be Capitol Hill if there wasn't drama.
SPEAKER 16 :
We have it in spades.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we'll be watching it very closely. Always great to see you, Senator. Thanks for joining us. Thanks, Tony. All right, folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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All right. Earlier today, FRC held its Lift Up Life event. It was an online event. It was a day to mark a day of prayer and fasting for life. We're praying. We're praying to see a change in our policies and a change in the hearts of the American people so that we see abortion becoming truly not just a court decision of the past, but a a behavior of the past and one of the things that needs to happen, and we're going to talk more about that in just a moment, but is the abortion pill that is now being sent across state lines, across state lines into pro-life states. It is nullifying all these pro-life laws. All right? And so we held this event to pray, and we have many, many leaders from different organizations praying. And so if you'd like to be a part of that, you can find it. It's still up on the app, the Stand Firm app. Okay? So go to the Stand Firm app, and you can check that out. You can still pray, even if you don't go and watch it on the app. But be praying. Be praying. Be praying for our president and his administration, that they would make the – The right decisions and sometimes the difficult decisions. And some of them are fearful of this issue. We just need to pray that they would have a greater reverence for life and for God than a fear of man and the polls. And here's another reason they should consider this. According to a new study, this at-home abortion process is contaminating the American water supply. We were just talking about that with Senator Lankford. So how significant, though, is this threat? Well, here to discuss this, John Stemberger, president of Liberty Council Action, which just released this new report. John, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
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Tony, it's great to be with you again.
SPEAKER 12 :
We were just discussing with Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma his inquiry and request for the EPA to study this. What should they be looking at and looking for?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, the problem is they haven't done anything. In the year 2000, when this group called the Population Council proposed it, and the Population Council is a bias group. It's a nonprofit, big money, pro-abortion group. They claimed they did an environmental analysis. Tony, they did nothing. There were no academic studies. There was no scientific study. They just looked at the labeling. They said it's going to have an insubstantial impact. Well, in 2000, nobody was using the chemical abortion pill. It's over 70% of all abortions. This is the vast majority of abortions are done by a woman taking this pill, putting it in her mouth, literally seeing traumatically the baby enter the toilet, her own dead child, and having to interact with that. So the trauma on the woman is exponentially horrible. But this is happening 70,000 times a year. Students for Life has estimated that somewhere between 30 to 40 tons of medical waste, and I hate to use that word because I don't want to devalue the human dignity of that child, but that's human waste. That's biohazard waste, medical waste, going into toilets, going into sewer systems, going into septic tanks, and ultimately going into the water systems that actually process our drinking water. We don't know what the impact of this is. We know that these Wastewater plants are not designed to handle human remains. There's several reports of them finding fetal remains in there. So that's the one problem. The second problem is this mistopristo. This becomes an active metabolite, which means it doesn't dissolve in the woman's body completely. It has a lifespan. It's a lethal drug, which actually attacks progesterone and kills the baby. So if this is still in our drinking water, the question is, is this affecting people? Is it affecting our infertility rate, which seems to be also increasing? There's a correlation here. We don't know if there's causation. Correlation between the infertility rate and the increase in chemical abortions. So there's just so many questions, but the EPA and the FDA both need to study this. We're appealing to them. We're appealing to the president because they're appointed by the president. They serve as the president. We know, Tony, as you know, the president has committed to clean water. He said that over and over again. He's held bottles of water in his hand at rallies. So we want crystal clear, clean water. But he also has a nuanced position with chemical abortion. And we think that when he sees the facts, this is a truth that when you see this, you can't unsee this, Tony. I mean, when you realize this is going into our water system, this is kind of a big deal. But nobody knows the real impact because we haven't done any studies.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, John, as you pointed out, we go back to the year 2000 when the Clinton administration approved mifeprestone as one of the two abortion chemicals. You say in 25 years, there's been no study of the effect upon this of the environment of the water supply.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And Tony, here's the thing. Every time there's a change, like when the gestational age jumps from seven to 10 weeks, they should do another environmental analysis. They haven't done any. There's at least seven different more, at least a half dozen places where they should have did a new environmental analysis. They have not done anything. So we're asking the EPA, we're asking the FDA, we're asking the president of the United States to turn to those secretaries and say, hey, please study this. I mean, they can turn on a switch and study the impact of Mr. Princeton on the water, along with other chemicals that they may be looking at as well. It's very simple, but it's controversial. We need to put pressure on the government.
SPEAKER 12 :
The government studies everything. This is something they should be studying. I mean, a clean water supply is extremely important. And we just have about a minute left. But the point I want to make, I want to make sure people heard what you said. This could be contributing to the infertility rates in the United States. We talk all. You know, there's been all this controversy about IVF because people can't conceive. The problem may be in our water. It's not that, you know, you hear the old joke, well, they're drinking the water and getting pregnant. Well, they're drinking the water and they're not getting pregnant.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, look, the EPA tells you you shouldn't even put baby wipes down the toilet. And we're allowing the abortion industry to instruct women to literally put their own babies in the toilet. And you're talking about, you know, tons and tons of cranial development, placenta, blood tissue. That's very significant. That is not has no place in those. And so this is this is could be this would be a national scandal if it were in your context. You know, But because of this issue, everybody's like hands off.
SPEAKER 12 :
It kind of reminds me of the verse, the wages of sin is death. And all of society pays a price when we violate the truth of God. John Stenberger, great work on this report. And thanks so much for joining us today to share it.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Very good. We'll put that on the website. All right, folks, don't go away. When we come back, Dr. Al Mohler joins me.
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These anti-choice fanatics will stop at nothing. They don't think their work is finished, even after such a horrible and wide-ranging decision as Dobbs. Reproductive freedom is under attack on all sides. Extremists are banning and restricting abortion, criminalizing providers, defunding care, and interfering with lifesaving medicines.
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Well, here's the reality. Despite the historic Dobbs decision, the number of abortions in the U.S. has actually increased. Yes, you heard me right. It's increased. According to the Guttmacher Institute, formerly the research arm of Planned Parenthood, there were an estimated 1,032,100 abortions in the year 2023. Now, that's the most recent year for which data is available. Now, that's a significant rise from the 930,160 abortions in 2021, the year before Roe was overturned. Now, this increase has occurred even though 41 states have laws on the books that offer varying degrees of protection for unborn children and their mothers. So how is this happening? Well, the answer points to the dramatic rise in the chemical abortions, the use of the abortion pill, which now accounts for 63% of all abortions in the U.S. There are solutions. And joining me now to talk about them, Dr. Albert Moeller, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and host of The Briefing. He's also editor of World Opinions and author of several books, including his latest Prophet, Priest, and King. Dr. Moeller, welcome back to Washington Watch. Always great to have you on the program.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, thank you, Tony. It's always great to be with you, and there's always plenty for us to talk about.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's increasing by the moment. We're marking the third anniversary of, frankly, something that I would say was miraculous, the U.S. Supreme Court overturning 50 years of bad law or decisions, Roe v. Wade. Where are we today when you consider that historic case?
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Well, I agree with you that the Dobbs decision three years ago was basically a miracle. We're very thankful for it. But that also points to the fact that Roe v. Wade in 1973 was such an atrocity. It is not only bad constitutional interpretation, it's dishonest and it's deadly. And so the reversal of Roe, I mean, you and I can remember as soon as that was handed down, there was such great hope that it could be reversed. That took a half century. And and so the Dobbs decision is an is a game changer. Return the question of abortion to the states. I mean, I wish the decision had gone further on the abortion question, but it did return the question to the states. And, you know, it's it's created a map. We have a red blue America. We have a pro-life and we have an avidly pro-abortion America. And the pro-abortion, this is what you heard from Senator Schumer, they're never going to be satisfied until every single abortion at every stage of pregnancy is fully legal and frankly paid for by taxpayers. That the culture of death is real clear about the extremity of its plans. But sadly, what we do have is the wake up call that technology is also playing a big part here. And that means medication abortion. So now the vast majority of abortions, we believe, are taking place by pills. They're not in abortion clinics. And this is a game changer. And quite honestly, it removes it from public sight. But, you know, it doesn't remove it from federal regulation. And and that's where we need to be paying a lot of our attention right now.
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Well, you point that out. The Mifeprestone, one of the elements of the chemical abortions, this is not new. It's been around going back to the year 2000 when actually it was the Clinton administration first approving it with very strict guidelines where you had to have an in-person consultation with a health care provider. It was only available up to the seventh week of pregnancy. Fast forward to the Biden administration. They did away with all of those restrictions. No longer did you have to have an in-person consultation. And they even went further during COVID. They got a Department of Justice ruling on the Comstock Act, which prohibited the mailing of abortifacients or anything that would cause an abortion through the mail, saying it doesn't apply in this case. The result has been that this pill is being mailed into all of those states that post-Dobbs or post-Roe have pro-life laws. So, I mean, it's almost, you know, Dr. Mueller, it almost reminds me of the story Jesus was talking about in the New Testament where the house was cleaned, the demonic strongman bound and sent out, and he goes away. And he comes back and he finds the house clean and he brings seven more with him. I mean, it's almost as if the latter is worse than the former here.
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Well, I think you're exactly right. I think of the same kind of New Testament parallel. You know, one demon's cast out and seven demons move in. It's a horrifying thing. And what's really, I think, real clear is that there is a political legal remedy. If there's the conviction in the White House, there's the possibility of undoing this. You mentioned the Justice Department's, I think, absolutely dishonest evaluation of Comstock. The Trump... Justice Department needs to clarify that, correct that right away. And then there's the FDA on the abortion pill, and you mentioned Mifepristone particularly. You know, let me just step back for a moment and say, it's a human pesticide. And when you think about the fact that here you're talking about a pill that is so powerful that it can interrupt the natural process of a pregnancy and thus kill a fetus and expel it from the woman's body in terms of the regimen, that's horrifying. And so how all of a sudden you mentioned rightly all the restrictions that were placed on Mifepristone, even by the Clinton administration, only after Dobbs to have the Biden administration undo it. It really is a horrifying situation.
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And that's policy.
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You're drawing attention to it.
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That's policy. And as you pointed out, it could be changed like this. The current administration could, it would be a start. I mean, I'll be very candid and I think you agree with me. I know you agree with me. I want to see all abortions outlawed in this country. I want to see every single child, regardless of what zip code they're conceived in, welcomed into this world and protected under our laws. I mean, that's ultimately what we want to see. But we understand it's a process of changing hearts, changing minds. But the law is a tutor. And, you know, for years we fought for and we obtained the, as you said, overruling this horrific ruling of Roe v. Wade. So this is where we're at today. Let the states let the states be, you know, examples of others of what happens when you choose life. And I think that's happening. But it's being short circuited by the fact that the FDA still has Biden era policies in place.
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Well, that's right. And, you know, the president sent some mixed signals on this on the campaign trail. But I want to say he's taken some concrete actions in defense of life. Yes. Since he's been in office. Yes. I want him to continue and press that consistently. And by the way, that would not be only a victory for the unborn. That would be a victory for women's health. That's right. Because, again, I think all the corners were cut in the ideological push in the Biden administration to just make those pills available. Well, these pills are dangerous.
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I mean, not only they obviously have to kill the baby, but the mothers are at risk. And we've seen an increase in the number of of effects upon women. In fact, it's interesting going back to the you mentioned the camp, the President Trump, when he was running for president. This was an issue. There were two women in Georgia killed. in 2024 that died, and they blamed the pro-life laws in Georgia when, in fact, these two women both had abortion pills. And it was the complications that arose from those abortion pills that led to their unfortunate deaths. So these are very deadly procedures. Even Clinton recognized that, as we said, it put in place this medical oversight.
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Can I point out something? Yes. Excuse me. I think and I appreciate the fact you're going at the arguments from the left. They're so dishonest. So I think you'll agree that the dishonesty is shown in the fact that they say this. OK, so after Dobbs, a lot of states have taken action. So abortion clinics are closed. Therefore, the the pill should be made available widely to to all people. Then you point out there are medical problems with the pill and they come back and say, oh, well, by the way, since you closed the abortion clinics, that still is necessary for women to be able to have access to an abortion. So in other words, I think they know how dangerous this pill is. I think that just shows you how intent they are upon making abortion as widely available as possible. I think they know the risks.
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The position of the federal government is undermining the states that are protecting the unborn. My home state of Louisiana is a perfect example where you have an abortionist in New York mailing in these abortion pills. And in one case, a mother gave it to her pregnant daughter without her knowledge to bring about the abortion. That's one of the concerns of how this abortion pill is being used.
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Well, I agree with you entirely that, and by the way, I think the Justice Department desperately must revise its advisory on the Comstock Act. I believe the Comstock Act is precisely the legislation that would say these things can't be shared state to state. I think that's established law and that needs to be recognized. If the Justice Department is going to uphold justice, it needs to do that quickly. Let me ask you a question, Dr. Moeller.
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Can you say that you support the right of the states to protect the unborn and have laws on the books that are pro-life and at the same time support mailing abortion pills into those states.
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It's a grotesque inconsistency and it is in some cases just sheer political cowardice. I appreciate you calling it out for what it is. We need to make very clear you're not pro-life if you do not seek to shut down this unconstitutional illegal business of the abortion pill.
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The recent gathering of the Southern Baptist, this was an issue. And in fact, a resolution was passed, if I'm not mistaken, unanimously from the Southern Baptist Convention.
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Absolutely. And you know, this is an issue on which evangelical Christians have been awakened now for generations. And I'm glad to say that even when you look at some of the issues in which there can be, I think, some lost ground among evangelicals, I'll tell you, the Southern Baptist Convention is as clear on this issue as it could possibly be, and I think absolutely right. And we need to put the pressure on our government officials to uphold their responsibility. And frankly, even when it comes just to the FDA and this pill, it's malpractice to make this pill available as they have.
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Dr. Merle, we just have a couple of minutes left. I want to pivot here for just a moment because I think we need to realize that. Laws are important and we're going to advocate to change those laws and those policies. But there is a this is a spiritual battle. We see the grip that the spirit of death has upon our country and that we overturned the law. But we we haven't walked this all the way through. We changed, the court changed its mind, but we have not walked this all the way through to reestablish the freedom that God has given us to be a nation that embraces life. There is a spiritual battle here that has to be waged and it can only be waged by the church.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's absolutely right, Tony. And, you know, the culture of death kills, but on the way to killing it lies. And those lies we just have to expose day after day. And that's what you're doing. I greatly appreciate that. The lies about the pill, the lies about the unborn child, just lies upon lies upon lies on the way to death. And no one said this is going to be easy, but this is the fight we've been called to fight.
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I think it's defining. This to me is one of those defining issues for our nation. America can't be great until it is first good. We're not going to be politically great. We're not going to be militarily great until we're morally good. And that there's nothing more fundamental than embracing human life created in the image of God.
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It's that first order issue, Tony. You know, if we don't get this right, nothing else is going to be right. If we don't know, how in the world do we talk about the principles, for instance, articulated in the Declaration of Independence if we don't even know who a person is? And there's no more basic question. To get this wrong, frankly, nothing else can be right.
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Dr. Al Mohler, always great to talk with you and have a conversation about issues that matter greatly. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 14 :
As always, God bless you, Tony.
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Dr. Al Mohler, just always appreciate the conversations we have. I hope you have as well. Thanks for joining us today. We're out of time, but I encourage you to be praying for our nation and praying for this issue in particular, praying that God would move the heart of our president to embrace life throughout all of our policy in our country. All right. Until next time, just keep standing.
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Join Logan Sekulow as he provides real-time updates on the Middle Eastern ceasefire and its global implications. This episode includes contributions from the ACLJ, highlighting the legal and diplomatic efforts to maintain peace and security. We discuss the strategic military engagements, President Trump's decisive actions, and the role of international diplomacy in an era of tension. Do not miss the insights from callers and our expert team as we unravel the complexities of this geopolitical conflict.
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As more attacks take place overnight in Iran and in Israel, the ceasefire continues on.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow. What an evening, to say the least, since the last 24 hours since we've been on the air. It has been quite a journey. If you are looking at us going, you guys look a little tired. You look a little frazzled. You look a little... You know what? It's been... A lot to cover and a lot to keep up with. We went to bed. I think for a lot of us went to bed. Saw there was still some mild rocket firing, but we knew that the ceasefire was on the way. And then again, President Trump made that big historic announcement saying, the war's over. We ended it. This should be called the 12-day war. Iran and Israel are at peace. And then as we know, just a few hours later, the world changed once again. And when I woke up sometime around five, six o'clock this morning, went to check my phone, the first thing I saw was a news alert. I think this was coming out of the Sky News. It said, if you're just waking up, a lot has happened overnight. And I was like, oh no, and here we are. And President Trump said, hey, look, I think Israel and Iran both have violated this ceasefire already. and I'm going to get on the phone immediately and try to stop this. And that seems to be precisely what he did, was after getting in his helicopter in Marine One, getting on the phone with Bibi Netanyahu, because, of course, they were saying, hey, it just kept escalating. The ceasefire wasn't sticking, and therefore it was violated, so they're going at it. And with a few expletives here and there, President Trump said, it's time that this stops. And what it seems like possibly, as of right now, that that has worked. Will, what do you want to play here?
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I know you just... Yeah, this is actually from that little press gaggle that happened as President Trump was leaving the White House to go to Marine One on his way to Air Force One where he's headed to a NATO summit. And this is where the press gotten up close to him and were able to stop him for a considerable amount of time. But this is where a reporter asked if he believes that both sides violated the ceasefire. Let's roll bite three.
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You urge both sides not to violate the ceasefire, but reports coming from the region suggest that the sides accuse each other for violating the ceasefire. I think they both violated it. I'm not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn't rein people back. I don't like the fact that Israel went out this morning at all, and I'm going to see if I can stop it. So as soon as I get away from you, I'm going to see if I can stop it, okay?
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Hey, I just want to let you know, if you're watching on YouTube right now, I know some of you may or may not be hearing me. We're addressing the issue as we speak right now. So stay tuned. Don't go anywhere. We're going to do our best to get this sound issue fixed. If you're listening on the radio, though, or you're watching on Rumble or some of our other options, I'm not sure exactly, give us a call. I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. It's an important time here in America to stay vigilant, to see what's going on. We hope. We hope we know these Iranian missiles that came in did some did land in Israel. Some did kill citizens. Again, Israel went to go make an attack. We also did not play a clip from President Trump where it was a bit more expletive centered. You may have seen it already. So we thought you probably have already seen this clip where he said, you know, essentially they don't know what they're doing anymore. They've been fighting for so long that they don't know what they're doing. You know, I understand Israel's point of view. I understand that this is not a war that's easy to be settled. But unfortunately, here we are. I think we all went to bed a little happy, a little breathing a sigh of relief. I saw a lot of people who are critical on President Trump's attacks of Iran actually saying, you know what, we were wrong. He was so quickly able to create a peace by doing this. And then chaos erupted once again. Now, what we're hoping is that this ceasefire now sticks. And that we can move forward. But we're going to keep that conversation going. We're also going to talk about some of the work of the ACLJ a little bit later. And we're going to be joined by Jeff Balaban live from ACLJ Jerusalem. Now, obviously, they are dealing with a lot right now in Israel. So that connection, we know, is going to probably be on phone just due to what's going on and for his own safety and security. But you're not going to want to miss that because he's going to be giving you a live update of what's happening on the ground in Israel. Phone lines, like I said, are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. A very fragile military ceasefire. Support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. welcome back to secular i do think we need to reset uh as president trump has called for israel and iran to quote unquote calm down their uh not only their rhetoric calm down the response that again happened overnight but i think we need to lead you through from because i know a lot of you just listen to this show i see a lot of you even on the streets who come up to me and go logan i saw someone in the dentist's office this morning they go i listened to your show You give me what's needed, and then I go along with my day because I don't have the time or the energy to spend watching this 24-7. I know you're going to give me the latest updates from a legal point of view, from a constitutional point of view, and from an honest point of view, maybe most importantly. And look, we were up late last night. It was a chaotic 24 hours. So we went off the air yesterday. Before the ceasefire was announced, before President Trump had made that announcement, it was just seeming like a big moment where there was success. The facilities were taken out and there was no response except for some minor response between Israel and Iran.
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But as we were going off the air, we were getting word that the – American embassy in Qatar was saying to shelter in place if you're an American. And there were reports that- Was that yesterday? That was yesterday. It feels like- Iran had launched some missiles in the direction of the US air base in Qatar in Doha. And what ended up happening after that was that, I believe they said around 13 or 14 ballistic missiles were fired from Iran at the US air base. No one was injured. All of them were intercepted except for one that wasn't on target. And so they let it fly away and it crashed somewhere without having any real issues or injuries. They said some minor damage from shrapnel and things after the interceptions to facilities, but nothing severe. So that happened. Iran did their response.
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We knew this was almost an orchestrated response.
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Then we found out Iran called ahead and said, guess what? Here's what we're doing. Iran felt like they needed to show a response to the United States but didn't want to escalate knowing how severe that could be for them. Then later in the afternoon, President Trump announced that there was a ceasefire agreed to. We now know that that was brokered between the United States and Qatar to bring the Israelis and Iranians to a point of a ceasefire. And there was a timeline of 12 hours here. It was going to take a full day, effectively, to get the full ceasefire in place.
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So many things had been already set in place or already moving. You want to give them time to be able to wrap up so they're not like... Like, hey, ceasefire right now. And by the time it reaches someone, they've already launched a rocket. And unfortunately, that ends your ceasefire. So they said, hey, we're going to give it a few hours. But Iran acknowledged it. Israel acknowledged it. Because first President Trump did it before anybody else. uh acknowledged it the other two countries acknowledged it it seemed like everything was good there was a sigh of relief last night as it felt like uh the world war three scenario that could have been unfolding was put to an end and a lot of people were talking about it again we go to sleep and as we sleep um Chaos breaks out.
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That's right. There was a lot more attacks from both sides. Not a winding down kind of attack, but it seemed to escalate. There are some individuals in Israel were killed as it hit an apartment building. One of the Iranian missiles. Israel obviously struck back very hard against military sites in Iran. And as we woke up to the President of the United States, in one of the most raw moments I think we've ever seen from him, genuinely you could feel the frustration and the language that came out is not typical on TV.
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The disappointment you could tell by him, because I think he thought going to sleep, it was probably going to be a very historic moment. You know, we'd be writing about it in books that is what they would say in the history books, because he said 12 day war kind of started labeling it, saying, you know, we were the great peace broker. Here's how it ended. And then, of course, has to wake up to the fact that neither side really stopped. And if anything, it was escalating to a even further point.
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Now, as the president is on Air Force One, headed to a NATO summit, I believe in Amsterdam, he was talking to reporters as it went. Leaving the White House, he said, I got to go handle this. And now we have this soundbite from Air Force One just now. A little bit prior to us going live today, let's go ahead and roll bite eight. As it appears, he called the Israelis and all reports are saying it was a pretty furious call with Bibi Netanyahu that the bombings escalated instead of winding down. But here is how President Trump is categorizing this ceasefire. Now, let's roll bite eight.
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Breaking news. Everything good. Israel, as you know, turned back. They didn't do that raid this morning, fortunately. That was a big thing. Appreciate it. They had a lot of planes going and they were going to do something and they didn't do it. We're happy about that. Very happy about that. So the ceasefire is very much in effect.
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And I think we're going to keep it there for a long time. I think we're going to keep it there for a long time. Of course, now if President Trump was able to use his negotiation skills and force, to be honest, to have Israel stop this, the question is, does it stop Iran? Who, again, we know President Trump has had a historically very good relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu. So to have a frustrated phone call is not going to necessarily end in some diplomatic war that could come up. Now, that is not the same when you're dealing with a decimated Iran trying to fight back with an Ayatollah who is really the last man standing.
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And I think what we need to be clear about here is that what President Trump wanted to achieve was take out the nuclear sites and not get the U.S. involved in a much broader war or a regime change conflict, which he said in another bite and we can play later that he's not looking for regime change in Iran. The objectives of the Israelis are very different because they can never have peace without with the Iranian regime. The Iranian regime, they have a countdown clock, used to, got taken out by Israel, in the heart of Tehran, that was ticking down to when the Ayatollah said there would be no more Israel in 2040. So they are vehemently against each other and a ceasefire is not going to be a peace deal. But... I think what President Trump's objectives here are to stop the fighting as it is. If there is regime change, that would have to be from the Iranian people, not outside forces forcing that. According to our president, the Israelis know that they have Iran in a very interesting position. Their proxies are decimated. Hezbollah's leadership is dead. Hamas's leadership is dead. The Houthis have been sidelined to some degree because Iran is too busy focusing on their own military engagement instead of supplying the Houthis with the arms they need to continue attacking U.S. and Israeli interests. So they see an opportunity of Iran on the ropes. So now we do see conflicting policy between what President Trump wants and what the Israelis want. And just how that plays out is what we're going to have to keep an eye on.
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Probably that President Trump is realizing that, that negotiating with these two parties, it's not always on the up and up. It doesn't always mean that you're getting what you think you're getting. Like you said, they have different motives. They have different end games. So what does that look like on a worldwide stage? I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. How do you feel waking up to this news? Do you think President Trump has made the right decision still? Some people are asking why we're not playing the infamous clip right now. where President Trump used significant profanity. Well, that is exactly the reason why. As you may not know, we are on terrestrial radio. So there's a lot of people who listen to this show via radio. We cannot play extreme profanity. And also, you've seen it. If you're asking about it, you've seen it. Go find it yourself. We know a lot of people listen with their families in the car and all that. But this is one of those moments where you can feel the frustration coming out of President Trump, knowing what he's dealing with here, which is not just governments that are always... Going to be on the up and up. And then Iran doesn't always say, you know, doesn't always stick by what they say. I'd say historically they haven't. Historically they haven't. Same with what goes on in Gaza and Hamas. You know, how many times do we have a ceasefire? It feels like a dozen at this point. And it doesn't last and it doesn't stick. Something always escalates it. Now you had one that just was historically short. Now, a lot of people are asking about the terms of this ceasefire. I don't think those have been made readily available just yet. Is this a full-time? He keeps saying long-time. What does that mean? Does that mean have they signed for years? Have they signed at all? Is this verbal? What is it? We don't know those details. But hopefully they'll come out over the next few days and we can actually see some peace and stability in the Middle East for at least a moment. Not even the Middle East, because look, we know the war still rages on. But between Iran and Israel, we hope that that can settle down because that is the one that could take us to places we don't necessarily want to go. But if pushed to, America may have to. Phone lines, again, are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I want to go through some of the things the ACLJ is doing on your behalf right now. As we know, Israel and Iran's entered in this very fragile ceasefire. But the world is still focused on what? Condemning Israel. You saw Iranian flags in the streets now. Lawfare, though, is coming. And after the smoke clears, literally and figuratively, the lawfare against Israel will be intense. And the ACLJ is there. That's where we're going to have Jeff Balabot on from ACLJ Jerusalem in a little bit. Jordan, my brother, just returned from the UN in Geneva and is working in Europe to engage and defend Israel. We just sent demand letters to the UN Secretary General and members of the UN Security Council today. We're going to be delivering those letters to the UN Human Rights Council, and we're preparing our next round of legal filings for next week. That's all legal work that we're doing, plus all of the media work that we are doing nonstop. And if you're able to, I'm going to encourage you to become an ACLJ champion, recurring monthly donor. Do that today at ACLJ.org. Again, these were rough nights, late nights for us. If you hear our voices going, if we feel a little disheveled today, just trust us that we are on top of everything that's going on, and we want to make sure you stay informed. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow. Stay tuned. In a little bit, we're heading over to Jerusalem with Jeff Balaban. Welcome back to secular. We are going to take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. And once again, if you're having any issues on a YouTube or any of our streaming platforms, we apologize. We are working on getting that fix you. You just tell, you know, this show is live and we are always, uh, doing this show each and every day, Monday through Friday from noon to 1 PM. Sometimes there's technical issues, but it is what it is. And we're not going to belabor that because I know a lot of you watch later on on the podcast feed, or you listen to a re-air on your local station. Um, But again, we apologize for any technical issues that are going on right now. Of course, we are still discussing what was going on in Iran and Israel. But, Will, there's also some other movements in the world of the ACLJ and also in the world of the Supreme Court. And I think we need to make sure that we address those because it's very easy to get caught up in these big global world affairs and kind of ignore. I mean, remember where we were just a week ago or a week and a half, two weeks ago? We were talking about the riots in L.A. We were talking about what was going on across this country. But things started to change, the news cycle moves, and now we are focused primarily on Israel and Iran and how the US is involved. However, that doesn't mean the work here in the United States stops.
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That's right. And we have a lot of things that we want to get to this week that the ACLJ is doing. Some things we'll be announcing tomorrow on the broadcast as well. But this is an interesting decision that came out of the Supreme Court. And I think a lot of people are looking at this wondering if this is going to foretell at all how the Supreme Court will rule on those universal injunctions issue. Remember, that was before the court just a few weeks back. Jordan was in D.C. with the attorney general of west virginia who we worked with representing them before the court in a brief calling out these district court judges that are issuing these universal injunctions covering the entire country and trying to put a a stop to the president's agenda through uh lawfare effectively But what came out last night from the court was a stay. They had stayed a district court's decision. It was an injunction placed by the lower court, by a district court judge in Boston, someone who had been actually only confirmed very late during the lame duck session after the November presidential election last year. He was confirmed in December. And he was blocking the president and the administration from deporting illegal immigrants to a third-party country instead of back to their own home. Now, why would this matter? Well, when you look at some of the people that are picked up, like over the weekend, 11... uh criminal migrants that were here illegally from iran some former irgc members do you think iran is going to take back their illegal immigrants right now probably not so sometimes if you want to deport them you have agreements with other countries that they could go to instead of to their home country the lower court blocked that and said you can't do it put in all these other stipulations uh to try and stop this but It was appealed up to the Supreme Court by the administration. This is the Department of Homeland Security versus Murphy. And last night, they put out a stay, granting the stay on the injunction. It's almost like in UNO, like if you play a reverse card and then you play another reverse card, so it goes boom, boom, like that. That's what happens.
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Essentially not in the rules. Oh, you can't double reverse? You can't double. There's a lot of conversation around this. So this is the hot topic I'd like to move into today. That's always how I play.
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I thought it was a good analogy, Logan.
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Someone needs to read the book that it comes with because you can't double reverse. You can't reverse a reverse. And you certainly can't, I don't know, go ahead.
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Well, in my way, in my way, we play Uno, you can't. In your family's Uno. So the district court reversed the administration and then the Supreme Court has now reversed that by placing a stay on that injunction. And what they are saying is that this stay will remain in place pending the disposition of the appeal in the United States District Court of Appeals for the First Circuit and the disposition of a petition for writ of cert at the Supreme Court. If cert is denied, so if the Supreme Court doesn't take the full case... The stay goes away and the district court remains in place. If it is granted, the stay shall terminate upon the final judgment of the court. This appears to be a 6-3 decision. It's an unsigned order. However, we can ascertain this from the three that wrote a dissent. That is Sotomayor, Kagan, and Justice Jackson. The three more liberal members of the court dissented, saying this is a terrible thing to issue this stay. But why does it matter broadly one right now the supreme court has said that the trump administration can move forward with deporting individuals to third parties not on hold but also the fact that they put a stay on a broad injunction like that could be telling how they may be ruling in the coming days because by the way supreme court term is coming up it's ending soon we will have a decision in that case within probably the next two weeks yeah they got to go on some
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summer vacation.
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That's right. You know, it is weird that they have a summer vacation. Thinking about it. Right. Why?
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Why do they have a summer vacation?
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I mean, I understand in like the 1800s maybe why.
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Do you? Why?
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They gotta go back to feed them hogs? Well, a lot of D.C. was out. That's why there were recesses.
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Why do we give them recesses?
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It took so long to travel back if you're a representative in Kansas and you were going by Pony Express. Green unsigned orders. well we've got this it's uh we are looking forward for that case that we filed in representing the state of west virginia on whether or not the supreme court will limit these very broad universal injunctions that are being issued by district courts we'll see how that plays out but if this is an indicator and and people are always trying to divine things out of the other issues that the supreme court uh hands down but if this is in the indicator it could seem that they are ripe to put a limit on these universal injunctions people think we're fighting again because of the uno no that was fun no they said having his spats it's because in real life they fight actually not yeah we fight more on this show than we do in real life reverse we've also never played uno together to my knowledge so i play a lot of uno but i don't know that you and i've ever played mainly with the children right i don't think you and i play a lot of games we're like what do you want to do i don't know two-person fancy a game of uno
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All right. We got two minutes left in this first half hour. If you're on hold, I'm going to get to you, Doyle and Doug. I like Doyle and Doug. That's a good morning show there. It's like Unsigned Order. Unsigned Order is the name of my Christian metal band. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We are going to continue discussion, obviously, about the war, lack of war, the more war, the ceasefire, the ceasefire two, the ceasefire three that is happening currently. between Iran, Israel, the United States of America. We're going to make sure we don't miss any of that. You've heard about all the legal work we're doing. Will just gave you a lot of information about what's going on with our case representing West Virginia. But again, that legal work doesn't happen. This show doesn't happen. I can't look in the control room and see a dozen people working on this, working on it all morning, all night. Because again, We know that a lot of you tune in, not just for our coverage of what's going on at ACLJ. We know you tune in a lot to hear about what's going on in the news and to get our expert opinions from some of our incredible team members. None of that happens without you. If you hear an ad on your local station, it's not going to us. That's going to the local station. If you think there's other ways the ACLJ is funded, not even close. Probably less than 0.5% comes through from any other ways other than individual donors. People that give one time a year or give on a monthly basis automatically. It's really easy to do that. It's at ACLJ.org. My goal is to always keep this content outside of a paywall. I think we need to share this content. I think people need to see this. And if we create a paywall, we create an echo chamber. We're not doing that here at the ACLJ. We're not doing that here with this show. Share it with your friends. Go to ACLJ.org. Over 500,001 of you have subscribed.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
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And now your host, Logan Sekula. Welcome back to Sekula. Will Haines joining us in the next segment. Jeff Balaban will be joining us live from ACLJ Jerusalem. Again, that's probably going to be on the phone. We want to make sure we're protecting his safety and also getting a good connection right now, as you can imagine, is easier said than done. So stay tuned for that because he's going to give you an on-the-ground feel on what's happening in Israel because overnight the ceasefire was broken. Now, allegedly, the ceasefire is back. How long it lasts, President Trump thinks it's going to last for a long time, but of course that's what he said last night as well, and it quickly devolved. I want to make sure that we are covering as much as we can and giving you all the latest updates. President Trump has just landed recently, I believe, and the NATO summoner is about to be there. Probably couldn't happen at a more interesting time. as he's going to be meeting with top dignitaries from around the world, including even Zelensky and some of these others he's talked about meeting with. There's a lot of conflicts in the world right now. It's pretty easy to get distracted by one of them and forget that the others are still happening. And also there's a heat wave that has hit the East Coast and the South that has been extreme. So a lot of people are dealing with that. Power outages, air conditioning outages. So there's a lot going on in America as well. The attacks that happened on the streets in Colorado. You had the protests in LA. There's a lot of, I think someone said, it's a lot of once-in-a-lifetime events that seem to all be crescendoing now to this moment. Now, what does that mean? We were all going to bed a little happy, a little bit breathing, a little bit breathing a sigh of relief. It seemed like President Trump had done one of the most unthinkable things, which was to go take out the nuke facilities and create a ceasefire, peace, between Israel and Iran. Did not last very long. However, President Trump means business. Next morning, woke up, said, I'm going to go handle this. And as of right now, as we're doing this live, No guarantees you're listening to this later on, but if you're listening to this between noon and 1 p.m. Eastern time, as of right now, there is some calm. And we have a couple minutes left in this segment before we're going to head over to Israel. And I want you to give us a call and get in line. Again, Doug and Doyle, I'll get to you, but I have a few more lines open, and I really would love to hear from you your thoughts on all of this. We've seen a stronger rhetoric coming from President Trump saying, kind of I'm sick of both sides here. They need to figure this out. And we're not just going to take this as, yeah, sure, these ceasefires don't hold in the Middle East. But precisely that is what happens. How many times have we heard ceasefire in Gaza? How many times we've heard ceasefire in Israel? How many times we've heard it between Russia and Ukraine? It feels like those words are just thrown around these days. But it feels like the Trump administration is not just going to take this as temporary reprieve.
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That's right. And it seems that the president is very serious. He had it sounds like strong words with the prime minister of Israel, Bibi Netanyahu. And we are now seeing relative calm for now. The I do think to some degree, the long lasting ceasefires and long lasting peace. I don't think we can call it peace because there will never be peace between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Israel because the the doctrine of. of the Islamic Republic of Iran is to destroy Israel. So while there may not be hostilities or open bombing campaigns or ballistic missiles fired at civilian centers in Israel by Iran, while that may last, the only true way for peace between Israel and the people of Iran is for new leadership. That is something that President Trump isn't interested in the U.S. pursuing. U.S.-backed regime change. Now, the people of Iran have an opportunity here. Their leadership in the military and the IRGC are decimated. The Ayatollah is in hiding. They have a real opportunity for real change in the country of Iran and bring back the pride of the region that the Persian people had displayed for so long. And we will see what happens, but that window...
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especially with ceasefire and hostilities uh maybe closing for the iranian people if they choose to move forward with that old lines are open for you 1-800-684-3110 and the next step we're going to be heading to jerusalem the aclj jerusalem office with jeff balaban stay tuned for that we'll be right back Like I told you, we're going to head over to Jerusalem. And as I told you, you never know what could go wrong or happen. Right now, we're having some issues connecting with Jeff Balaban, our head of ACLJ Jerusalem. But I want you to understand why it's important that we're there. Because there are moments like this where America is directly involved in what's going on in Israel and, of course, now in Iran. And if you want to hear, you want to make sure your voice is heard in Israel, not only if it's to support Israel, But even if you have a disagreement, look, right now you have a administration, the Netanyahu administration, that may be a little bit more conservative, if you will, a little more right wing in the Israeli point of view. But look, just like America, that changes overnight, it feels like, in Israel. You have a lot of different governments, and the way they even elect a president, very different. Prime ministers and all of the things that get involved in Israel. And that's why it's important we have our office. And we were founding the ACLJ Jerusalem. We have the European Center, where my brother is right now. And the European Center is the European Center for Law and Justice, the ECLJ. And we thought, well, should this be the ICLJ? Should this be an Israeli version where we're trying to get our sort of worldview and values also into the law in Israel? And the idea was to change that and say, no, no, no. What we really need, what we really need is an office representing American values. American Christian values, sure. Judeo-Christian values in Israel. and to make sure that the voice of the American people is heard throughout the country. Whether, again, you had a positive administration or not. So right now, sure, we can't connect with Jeff Balaban. That's not fun. I really wish we could. Hopefully we'll be able to before the end of the show. But you can understand why. There are some issues right now. It's not like it's all easy. It is a very tough time. The Americans were pretty much told to leave, but Jeff remained. As someone who is a dual citizen, I'm sure it's, is he a dual citizen? I believe he is. I'm not sure if he's a dual citizen or not. But as someone who spends a lot of time in Israel, it is part of him as well. It is home as well for a lot of them. So we have the ACLJ Jerusalem. We're going to continue to try to get to Jeff. If we don't get to him, I apologize. We're going to do our best, though.
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And another thing when you talk about even the differences with an ICLJ, if it were the Israeli Center for Law and Justice and the American Center for Law and Justice is also because even as you mentioned, not only is the political system there very different, but even the types of when you consider what's more conservative and more liberal,
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Very different.
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Completely different. So being able to even navigate between what conservatives in Israel, how they can talk with and understand conservatives in America, things of that nature, which are important if you're wanting dialogue between allies of how can we talk so that we understand what each other's goals are and what the meaning there is. And we're also starting to see some very interesting things come out of the conservative right here in the United States. And I put conservative in quotes there, but definitely on the political right. But we're now starting to see some of the people that we criticized earlier in the week about how they were pushing back against President Trump, saying it would be the end of his presidency, the end of his legacy, if he were to bomb Iran. But I'm starting to see statements by some of those same people that are calling back to things that, if you were to ask them, be like, did you believe in and support the Obama administration? Because there was one today that said, maybe we need regime change in Israel. And that's exactly what the ACLJ uncovered that the Obama administration was doing, interfering in elections abroad. The United States was funding the son of Mahmoud Abbas, he's the head of Fatah, of the Palestinian Authority, was funding his son who had a group within Israel trying to get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu. That was the US State Department funding regime change, election interference in an allies election. And yet the Democrats were the ones that cried, Russia, Russia, Russia. They're interfering our elections. This is horrible for democracy. When that is what the Obama administration was doing. And now we're seeing people on the political right in America calling for that same thing. Do they... Are they big fans of Barack Obama? Do they want another Barack Obama presidency? Because that's what we're now starting to see. And that is the sickness that anti-Semitism, anti-Israel policy has seeped in to the conservative right. And we have to speak out against that. That's not something I'm okay with.
SPEAKER 02 :
Let's go ahead and take some phone calls. Let's go to Doyle, who's calling on line three. Doyle, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hello, young man. Yeah, you know, I agree with everything that Trump is doing. He reminds me of Ronald Reagan. When he tells someone he's going to do something, he's going to do it. He's not going to hesitate and wait three years and then be wishy-washy about it. It's going to happen. And, you know, I'm... I think by bombing the nuclear sites in Iran, he protected the West Coast. He protected all the Western civilization by taking out their nuclear sites. People think he just went against Palestinians, but he went out there to help the world.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you so much, Doyle, for calling in. I think a lot of people feel similarly. Of course, it's probably one of the most contentious times, as you said, Will, though, where people aren't falling necessarily in a party line because a lot of people voted for President Trump to not get us involved in wars. You saw what I would even say is that group that came over, whether that was when they considered the Avengers, when they said it was RFK and Tulsi and uh who else was on there uh elon even for that matter or or this whole group of people uh vivek that were sort of outsiders to the traditional republican party a lot of them came over for the point of view saying we don't want to get involved in war now what we hoped last night was that uh yeah you can do strategic military action and then stay out of a global war Last night, it was not feeling that way overnight, but hopefully it's settled down now. Now, a lot of you are asking a lot of the same questions. I'm going to encourage you right now because there's thousands of you watching to give me a call. We have five lines open right now. This is a great time to get your question answered or if you have a statement you want to make. Maybe it's about the ACLJ. Maybe it's the ACLJ Jerusalem. Maybe it is about the topic of the day or maybe the Supreme Court ruling. Whatever it is, I'd love to hear from you right now. It's a great time to call in. We'll take as many calls as we can in the next segment at 1-800-684-3110. Maybe people are going to want to know the guy who created UNO. could call it maybe he's listening yeah because we don't have the rule book on hand no but it would be nice to know because i thought you could reverse reverse what do you guys think in the comments can you reverse a reverse on uno that's the top question of the day uh let's go ahead and take another call and then give me a call at 1-800-684-3110 we're about to have six lines open i need you to call in doug in colorado you're on the air Hi guys. Can you hear me? We've got, we can hear you. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Uh, listen, um, as far as a ceasefire, uh, as far as, you know, the situation, um, then I want to preface it with this. I, I am a whole, I wholeheartedly agree with what Trump and Netanyahu has done, but, uh, There's not going to be any meaningful ceasefire until there's regime change in Iran, but I think that has to come from within Iran. And the Crown Prince has been interviewed many times. He's got some great interviews out there. He's been in exile, of course, 40-plus years. He says he's willing to step in as the interim leader, and he's also willing to step in as a leader if the Iranian people want him to be. The Iranian people have to step up. And I'm wondering, someone like Mariam Rajavi, the resistance leader, or someone of this ilk, if it's possible that the Iranian people are willing to step up because he thinks they are.
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, I think the Iranian people have tried. And I think we've got to remember a lot of what's happened over the last 20 years or so, even 10 years. This isn't the first time where Iran has had the opportunity to rise up. But unfortunately, it seems like it gets pushed back.
SPEAKER 04 :
What I feel like is a little different this time, if the opportunity is there, is that those previous times, the IRGC and the Iranian military and the Ayatollahs were at their strongest almost when these movements started to happen. It was after major crackdowns. when they were even just the when they were arresting people executing them for not wearing their hijab correctly but what is different now is how much of the leadership have been taken out by airstrikes from israel that they are weakened internally if the people can find their voice can take to the streets and can seize that moment and i agree with the caller there will never be meaningful peace with iran while that leadership is in power because they are a theocratic genocidal death cult and they have no real dreams of peace with the world they have dreams of controlling the world by ushering in the 12th imam which is a core tenant of their version of shia islam So they don't want peace. They want world domination. And they think destroying Israel is their way to get there. So ceasefire may be more peaceful, but it is not peace until that regime is gone. And that's what hopefully the Iranian people can bring about.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, phone lines are filling up right now. You answered the call, 1-800-684-3110, but some of these won't make it up, so keep calling. Again, support the work of the ACLJ, but in the next segment, my goal is to take as many calls as I can because I love hearing from you to wrap up this show. We do have one line open still, 1-800-684-3110. And while you wait, go over to ACLJ.org, see the incredible content that's there, and be a part of the team right now. Remember the last segment where I said all the phone lines are full? Guess what? They're not. I don't know what happened. We lost all of them but Edwin. So you know what, Edwin? I'm going to take your call. Feel free to be long-winded. And 1-800-684-3110. Last chance to get on the air. I'd love to hear from you. If you tried to call and it didn't work, call back 1-800-684-3110. Edwin in New York. You know, sometimes there's these just technical difficulty days and this is definitely one of them. Edwin, go ahead. Thank you again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Calling from the East end of Long Island. After listening to your shows, hours of your shows, hundreds of hours and watching Trump rallies. It is really my firm belief that Trump has held to his promise, even in this military action, that I didn't start any new, no new wars, but I will help an ally help finish it, which is for the safety, the security of our country, and even for the world. And that's my statement. Thank you for taking my call. Continue to do your work. God bless you all, and get home safe.
SPEAKER 02 :
Edwin, thank you so much. We appreciate it. I really do appreciate you giving us a call. And look, I think we need to always show, too, that there are supporters of what you do and your beliefs all over the country. So Edwin's calling from Long Island. You may think this is an area that you're not sure how they feel politically, but Edwin is representing a ton of people in all of these states who really do believe that. And I think you're right that this is not the start of a new war. This is certainly not a new war. This is a war that's been going on for millennia. However, maybe new engagement. Now, look, I think you have to start kind of looking at what the differences between those military engagements and a war, but a little bit different. Sure, we helped out an ally, but we also helped out an ally by sending our boys, as Pete Hexen said, our men and women in military to fly over with those B-2 bombers and take care of it. It wasn't just like we've done in Ukraine. It wasn't supplying weapons. it was actually supplying, you know, we'll say boots in the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Boots in the air. I like that term. But also to Edwin's point, yes, I think you're exactly right. I think President Trump is holding true to that promise. And it is ironic at best that so many on the left are now calling for impeachment of President Trump over limited military engagement when everyone has seen the lists now of how many different countries Joe Biden bombed without getting congressional approval, how many different countries Barack Obama bombed without getting congressional approval, including Libya and Syria and all these places, and those weren't considered us getting into a new war by the left. But now they're saying President Trump is dragging us into a new war with Iran and therefore he must be impeached because he didn't seek congressional approval first. Unfortunately for them, they can't have it both ways in what we're seeing here. But I also think that. that is a little bit of the difficulty for those of us that have been studying Iran for a long time, know their ideology, know the conflict between Israel and Iran. They aren't a rational nation. It's not rational leadership. They have a goal of death to America and death to Israel. So, Yes, great decimating their nuclear program and ensuring that they never rebuild that keeps them in check. And I think that is President Trump's goal. Israel has a different goal with Iran. They want the Ayatollah gone. They want the Islamic Republic of Iran to be gone. They want... the Iranian people to be the Republic of Iran or whatever follows from that, where it is no longer a theocratic dictatorship that calls for the destruction of Israel. And we pray that that happens one way or the other.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, let's go to Candy in Georgia. Candy, you are on the air.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hello. Okay, two things. Well, first thing, President Trump, being a new believer, doesn't understand. As best as he's trying, he can't make peace in the world. Only Jesus can do that. But I think he should allow Israel to finish the job that they started because they're in danger if they don't get rid of The Isla Tola and stuff, even though I want to see people saved, there are times when people get so hardened in heart, they won't get saved.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, Candy, I appreciate your comments. I think some people feel that way, that Israel should be able to go in and do what they need to do to end this regime. However, that hasn't been necessarily the policy of the United States of America. It hasn't been the wants of a lot of people in America. They don't want to see us getting involved in such an extreme conflict, because that will up the ante. Iran's got a lot of big friends, and their big friends are ones you don't necessarily want to get into a global conflict with. We're talking about China. We're talking about potentially Russia. You're talking about some major superpowers who do have military, who can take real action. So, Candy, while I understand your point of view, I don't necessarily totally disagree with it. There is strategy involved, and we've got to make sure that we cover that. I also appreciate your call and thank you for calling from Georgia. There are a couple lines open, 1-800-684-3110. We're going to get to some more. Will, there was a YouTube comment saying, From Sherry. That's right. Sherry said, I'm 65, which I think that was helpful because you know what? I give her a little bit more cred. She's been playing this game for a while. Yeah, she knows. She said she has four copies of the UNO rules, which I feel like- A little excessive. That is like, what are you doing with these? Are we hiding the constitution?
SPEAKER 04 :
I lose copies of rules immediately opening the package of a game. She has four.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're probably laminated. Maybe they're on her wall, like a prayer. You put up the prayer of Jabez. She has the rules of UNO. No?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think so.
SPEAKER 02 :
She said, the reverse can be played on the reverse. It's even in the example of play. The only exception of sorts is in a two-player game where the play of a reverse acts only as a skip because you can't go the other way. So you know what? I will admit when I'm wrong. Fake news Logan over here. Some people don't admit when they're wrong. And you know what? I haven't checked your facts. You could be lying to me right now, but I'm going to trust you that you are number one, 65 years old, that you have four copies of this and that you know your thing. You know, but I think everyone's got at home rules, different rules for Uno.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that how you play games? You kind of know.
SPEAKER 02 :
You have rules. Everyone's got their own rules. Like Scrabble. It's like, can you also play words in Spanish? No. Sometimes I do. No. You can't do that. Hola. Logan, you don't know Spanish words. I know a dozen. Okay. I can count to 10 plus hola. Andrew. That's 11. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Here's my thing. I'm looking at the Middle East, which is primarily Islamic. Iraq and Iran are both Islam. True. Okay. In order to get a regime change, you need to change the heart of the people. I can't see that being done. being that Islam has such a hope on the Middle East.
SPEAKER 02 :
Andrew, I'll push back a little bit on that. And that is that the people in Iran have, especially the people historically, we're talking about more than 40 years ago now. If we go back 40 years, we're not this extremist. Yes, they were Muslims. They were Islamic Muslims. But they weren't Islamists in this sense. They weren't necessarily this sort of global terror version of a distorted version of the religion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and Iran itself had a multicultural Jewish community, thriving community. There's a large immigrant community of Iranian Persian Baha'i that live in the Nashville area because they fled the persecution exile. And when the great Persian Empire was known for its multiculturalism and not being a theocratic state, and that is what the Islamic Revolution tore down in many ways. And so we've seen the repercussions of that when, to your point, Andrew, the theocrats that are genocidal and want to destroy Israel took power, and that has been their goal since 1979. And they are continuing to this day.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Thank you so much for supporting this show, listening, watching, and really just engaging with us. We appreciate it each and every day. I know there was technical issues today, but you know what? That just proves that we're live. We're doing this for you regardless. And we can't do it without you. So I'm encouraging right now to go to ACLJ.org, support the work. We'll talk to you tomorrow with more on Sekulow.
Bill Gunderson returns with compelling market insights, examining the surprising rallies amidst geopolitical unrest. As the ceasefire in the Middle East temporarily steadies markets, the spotlight turns to energy sectors. The show dissects the implications of declining oil prices and growing nuclear energy initiatives in North America. Barry Kite adds depth to discussions with predictions on how these shifts could potentially reshape global stock markets. From the adoption of AI to the possibilities unlocked by self-driving technology, this episode provides a futuristic lens through which investors can view evolving trends. Dive into detailed analysis on stocks such as Teladoc and Chewy, as Bill Gunderson evaluates their growth potential and market position. Combining humorous anecdotes with sharp financial acumen, this episode ensures an insightful and entertaining journey through today’s financial landscape.
SPEAKER 01 :
He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Tuesday morning. It is June the 24th. And it is the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. President of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kider, Chartered Financial Analyst and Certified Financial Planner. If you need a little help with planning. Well, we've got a tentative ceasefire which has already been broken. But the market likes the news. Oil doesn't like the news. Gold doesn't like the news. But the Dow is celebrating here today with a rise of 253 points, which puts the Dow at 19,833 as it continues to creep towards 20,000 or 43,000. The NASDAQ is creeping towards 23,000. It's at 19,833. It's up 202 points today. Nvidia having a nice day. It's up 1% right now. Meanwhile, the S&P is up 70 basis points. It's up 42. It's above 6,000 again. It's at 6,067. You know, so much for that March 8th tariff tantrum and everything else that was thrown at the market. It's totally recovered and almost back to its all-time highs. Small caps up 65 basis points today. The bond market's up three basis points. The bond market doesn't react well to peace. It likes, you know, for a flight to safety, it likes danger in the world. It's up to 4.36%. Oil is clear down to 65.51. You're going to see a big drop at the gas pump here. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And, you know, look, when we went home on Friday, Thursday we had a holiday. Friday may have well been a holiday because very few people were participating in the market. And then all heck broke loose over the weekend and extended into yesterday's trading. And towards the end of the day yesterday, all of a sudden I saw the market taking off after a pretty dull day. I figured something's happened over there in the Middle East, and that something was a ceasefire brokered over social media, I guess, through Truth Social and Donald Trump, and that ceasefire's already been broken, but the Dow yesterday scored a 375% gain, the S&P was up 57%, and the NASDAQ was up 184%, and we're adding on again here today as we may have finally peace in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 04 :
The oil markets are acting like the ceasefire is going to hold, right? I mean, we're at 65. I was following the chart of crude oil over the last week. I think we've got over 80, and now we're back to 65.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, that's where I look, really, for an indication of how serious this is, this peace deal. And you see oil just getting clobbered today. And I also hear Trump telling our oil producers to step it up, boys. Get the drilling going. And I also see Europe ordering a bunch of liquid natural gas from us. this time around, instead of Russia. But oil is down to $65 per barrel. You know, it may be time to trim back a little bit on gold. I'm just thinking. That's just the thought in the back of my mind right now. I'm going to watch the chart here. there's a lot of uncertainty that's been taken out of the world. Oh, it's always uncertain. Will it hold? Will it not hold? Where's the next hot spot in the world? But, you know, gold went a long ways. I can remember not that long ago when it was $1,700. Now it's $3,400. It may be time for a little cooling off in the gold market. Silver also cooling off a little bit. It got as high as $3,600. Iran did make an attempt yesterday to strike back at the U.S. There were explosions heard over Qatar. But apparently whatever Iran has to fire at us, we have a pretty easy response for to shoot it down, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it was almost like they were wanting some kind of ceasefire because I saw something where they basically announced that they fired them. In other words, give us a bit of a heads up in terms of maybe it would look like they're doing something, but at the same time, you know,
SPEAKER 03 :
didn't didn't really want them to land well because they don't want uh you know a retaliation yeah and i heard one analyst saying it kind of like to save face you know right they can at least tell the people we who knows well i have to look at the tehran times today it probably says that iran scores big hit on american air base you know who knows what it says but to save face, but oil was down 9% yesterday. I think that was a sucker bet, investing in oil. And I said that as I watched oil break out two weeks ago. I said something's up in the Middle East. It broke out, I think, two weeks ago this Thursday. And I said, you know, I wouldn't get sucked into this. I think it's going to be temporary. And so anybody that was buying these oil stocks up there after the big moves, that was a sucker bet, not a good move. So anyways, it seems that Iran has very little that they can strike back with. We have superior military, superior in the skies, superior weaponry. Iran basically has no air defense whatsoever. And you've got to believe that their nuclear ambitions, which I'm sure were for peaceful purposes, have been...
SPEAKER 04 :
really dashed i mean to start that all up again seems like next time they're going to have to like buy a nuclear weapon from russia or something like that right i mean their whole knowledge base in terms of you know scientists taken out so you're losing not only you know actual uh centrifusion and actual you know assets to create you know the nuclear material you're also losing the knowledge base that creates it.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't know where that bottle or vial or can or whatever it's in of enriched uranium went, but Iran is kind of tight-lipped about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
claiming they still have it somewhere i was talking to my dad yesterday it's like a picture you know some kind of uh you know a superhero movie right with uh you know with yeah the ayatollah with the with the gene a green jar right yes smuggling it out at night or something indiana jones hot on his trail to get it you know
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, anyways, that's one less worry we have. Although Iran did fire a missile. They just can't keep their hand up. Maybe the memo didn't go out. I don't know. But they did fire a missile at northern Israel, and Israel fired one back. So it's already been broken. Trump fired away.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he fired away. I saw a clip this morning. One of the funniest things I heard this morning was that he basically used a little bit of language. He was using a four-letter word to describe it. I heard somebody say he dropped a different type of bomb this morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Those Canadian winds are blowing, and they're blowing inflation right out of the country. The inflation rate is at 1.7% right now in Canada.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
And, you know, the only place we're really seeing inflation picking up seems to be Japan with the issues with their bond market not being used for the carry trade anymore. And that's hurting them. It's causing some inflation. It's causing higher interest rates. But no inflation in Canada. You know, what's up here? I lost 3% in my home. According to Kay Schiller, down. Home prices slipped. Should I put in a sell stop, Barry? Where would you put in a sell stop? Down 10%, down 15%, down 25%, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
Probably the 3% that we're at now. It seems that way, at least around town. It doesn't seem like prices ever go down, but... I did see a big – in terms of talking about inflation, I saw some economists projecting a real drop in shelter costs coming up in future readings, and that's a huge component of inflation, which – That story at least gives the Fed a bit of reason to potentially cut down the road.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and the shelter element is they're just building apartments like mad. This Greystone here in Charleston, they're the biggest builder of apartments in the country. And we now have about five or six kids in our church that are here working for Greystone. I think we had one read into the records on Sunday. And they said he works for Greystone. Or is it Greystar? Greystar. Greystar. Greystar, yeah, yeah, yeah. Greystar. And they've got some impressive headquarters there in downtown Charleston. I guess that's our one publicly traded company here. No, we've got a few others. We've got Blackbaud. Blackbaud. And we have, I think there's one other one out there somewhere. Okay, yeah, your home price slipped. you can call up your realtor and put in this little sell stop. If it goes down 7%, 8%, you're automatically out of it, and you've got to move tomorrow. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, yesterday we were looking at the odds of a rate cut, and the percentage probability was at 16%, which is pretty low. I think you can cut that in half. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is going to testify before Congress today, and in his prepared notes he says, yeah, you know what, we're in no rush to cut rates. Basically, Trump can go pound sand. Trump yesterday said, you know, I may not fire him after all, but we'll see how it goes after his testimony to Congress today about being in no hurry to cut rates, even though inflation is basically gone. I think our rates are too high, and I think the home builders would agree. I think the lenders would agree, and I think those trying to buy a home would would agree also. New York to build, get this, I mean, New York State, Kathy Hochul, governor, is going to approve the building of the first nuclear power plant in a generation. Hochul tells the Wall Street Journal. Well, it's been in my generation where I've seen nuclear go completely out of favor and like never again to all of a sudden they can't get the plans on the drawing table fast enough. And I saw really nice action yesterday in the market in GE Vernova. And this happens to be Constellation Energy here that is involved in this. New York plans to build a large nuclear power facility. I think they're going to tear down Trump Tower and put it right there, downtown New York in Manhattan. In an interview Monday, adding that she has directed the state's public electric utility to add at least one GW. I'm guessing that's a gigawatt.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think it's enough to, what, do a million homes, right? I was trying to do the math, and I'm thinking, like, okay, a million homes, and then, you know, how many people live in it. And so, Mike, how much power is one gigawatt, right? It sounds... Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you have to ask the guy in Back to the Future, the professor. He gigawatts. There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which, by the way, we were talking about plutonium being carried around everywhere. Me and my dad were talking about a Back to the Future reference.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Remember at the beginning of the movie, he's got people chasing him around because he's got the... Yeah, from Iran.
SPEAKER 03 :
They were from Iran, too. That show was definitely prophetic. It was pretty. And also, let's see. So they have an aging fleet of nuclear generators. The project would be the first... major new U.S. nuclear plant undertaken in more than 15 years. And it's an important test of Trump's promise to expedite permitting for such projects. Now, I was reading somewhere here recently that they were going to start up the one that they were building here in South Carolina and then abandoned because of all the regulatory hurdles that they had to cross.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, the whole concrete, I mean, the part that... thing you think about in terms of uh in terms of the whole dome right and i mean that concrete a lot of that was already built um you know so the that hasn't gone anywhere as far as i know no no they're going to start it up again but i wonder if they're going to give us some money back on our power because remember they they said your power bill went up a little bit because a lot of the money they lost in that particular deal we we had to make up for their bad investment that's right
SPEAKER 03 :
Only five new nuclear commercial reactors have come online in the U.S. since 1991. Thirty years. The most notable retirements of reactors was New York's Indian Point nuclear plant 40 miles upriver from Manhattan, which was closed in 2021. Because of environmental concerns and its proximity to so many people down the Hudson River. As a consequence of closing Indian Point, which satisfied 25% of New York City's electricity. So think about that. Think about that downtown skyline. of New York City, the city that never sleeps, New York, New York, 25% of the electricity downtown came from that one power plant. So anyways, Constellation Energy and New York are already working together on a federal grant that could help with early work toward adding one or more reactors at the Nine Mile Point Clean Energy Center in Oswego. So Constellation had a good day. We do own Constellation Energy. Now, wait a minute, more nuclear news. GE Vernova to spend Canadian $70 million to build a service center for small nuclear reactors in Ontario. So there you go. Here come the small nuclear reactors. It's not Smart Modular. It's not the other one. What's the other one? SMR and Oklo. It's Hitachi. GE Renovo Hitachi Nuclear Energy has committed 70 million to build an engineering and service center in Ontario for small modular reactors. As the province... embraces a technology that has been touted as a way to meet surging power demand from artificial intelligence. So what did it take to wake up nukes? artificial intelligence, which is kind of an ironic thing here. The service center will be based in the Durham region, east of Toronto, near the Darlington nuclear site, where the new BWRX-300 reactors will be located. Ontario's electricity needs are set to jump 75% in 2050, and nuclear power will play an important role in boosting generating capacity.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and it goes to show you the need. I mean, the fact that New York is kicking one of these things off, it tells you that the need all around the globe is going to be just not real.
SPEAKER 03 :
All because of artificial intelligence. Is that our number one need? In the world today, forget about hunger, forget about water. We need artificial intelligence, and we need it now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is there something else you could do better with the power? I don't know. That would be interesting.
SPEAKER 03 :
australia's biggest iron ore export hub scores its busiest may on record oh this is good news i saw two two the other one i think was in uh brazil where they make a lot of steel uh out of iron ore and of course australia has a lot of iron ore this is a indicator of the global economy And, you know, all of this business about the global economy going into a deep recession put out by some of our favorite forecasters out there and pundits. Instead, it seems to be going the other way with all of a sudden iron ore, which, you know, it goes into steel. Steel goes into buildings. Steel goes into cars. Steel goes into factories. So that's a pretty good sign to have record deliveries from that Australia plant. Amazon expands their delivery network. You know what? Amazon is just going to be a global juggernaut. Now they want to get into 4,000 smaller cities and towns and be able to offer them overnight delivery. And they're expanding into the U.K., Amazon, and into India. Wow, one of the great stocks of all time, Amazon. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services... Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 06 :
Call out the instigator because there's something in the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, a few charts that stood out to me yesterday. Tesla was the stock of the day. And I saw some news today that the police were monitoring their cars, and a lot of them broke traffic laws. So I guess, you know, the artificial intelligence, you know, patterned after us. They were speeding in certain areas. They weren't coming to full stops at limit lines.
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I saw a video. You never know what's real or not real anymore. But I did see a report of one going, I think, the wrong way down the road.
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Yeah, one of them crossed over on the other side of the street. So just like us on the way to work.
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There's a reason it's the most dangerous thing we do on a daily basis. I mean, if you think about the speed that humans travel just in a car nowadays versus what it would have been at the turn of the century, right?
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And with those big battery cars with those heavy batteries, man, you get run over by one of those. Tesla is down 1.5%. Microsoft had a big day yesterday. It was something about a new language software that they were releasing. That one caught my eye yesterday. Constellation Energy obviously caught my eye yesterday. with the deal with New York. And Amazon's having a pretty good day. They're putting out a lot of news. They want to invest and expand in the UK. They want to invest and expand into underserved areas here in the US. They say everybody wants overnight delivery. That's one of the key drivers for them for growth. Here's your biotech of the day, Nectar. N-K-T-R, psoriasis. Holy cow, it's up 117% on 24,000 times their normal daily volume. Wow. It's traded 13.3 million shares. It's out of San Francisco. Psoriasis is a pretty big deal. I had a football coach. He had psoriasis real bad on his knees and his elbows. Good football coach, but he always had that psoriasis issue. They announced Tuesday that its lead asset, NKTR, Wow, I can't wait for the commercial for this one. It's resbigaldaslucan.
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It may cause diarrhea. It may cause stomach upset. It may cause brain damage, but don't worry. It's safe. Reached its main goal in mid-stage trial for patients with atopic atopy. Dermatitis eczema, which is pretty common, characterized by inflamed, itchy, and dry skin. Shares of the San Francisco, California-based pharma climbed 140% after a brief trading halt. Well, now it's up 122%. And that's your biotech of the day. It was a $100 million company yesterday and now it's a $257 million company. So the venture capitalists, the owners, the shareholders, the top brass, celebrating this one for sure, NKTR. Now, now that San Francisco, of course, I was there watching the Waymos, and I can't wait to get back to that area, which will be soon, and we're going to do a workshop there for the folks, and I saw all those Waymos running around downtown San Francisco right next to the cable cars. It's like, What a change in generations, right? You know, on the one side over here, you've got cables embedded in the street, pulling cars to the top of the hill. And the big guy with the brake, you know, trying to clamp down on that thing to grab that chain, that moving chain. And right next to it is this Waymo that looks like it landed from outer space. onto the streets of San Francisco with no driver. Nobody, no one on that big pulley there or that big winch trying to grab onto the chains under the ground. But Atlanta, Uber and Alphabet's Waymo have begun offering robo-taxi rides to the public in Atlanta, making a further step in their partnership. Available exclusively through the Uber app, this service spans about 65 square miles in the city from downtown to Buckhead. That's a pretty big area to Capitolville. We used to do workshops in Buckhead. I loved going to Buckhead. We used to go there quite often, and then the radio station got sold that we were on in Buckhead in Atlanta, and we've never been able to find another station in Atlanta to have our show on. If anybody knows of a station in Atlanta that needs some good content in the morning on the markets, let us know. Starting today, riders who request an UberX Comfort or Comfort Vehicle could be matched. With a Waymo fully autonomous all-electric Jaguar, well, that's nice, I-PACE vehicle at no additional cost.
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So that's a Waymo in Atlanta?
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Yes. And Uber is the service provider. Google is the builder of the car.
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I hope it knows how to merge. I mean, that's a merging town. So, I mean, I've had to go across six lanes in a pretty short period of time before to get over to the exit. So what do we do? It'll be interesting to throw Waymo in the middle of that.
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Well, there's a new twist in this one. In Atlanta and Austin, the Waymo rides are only available via the Uber app. In contrast, riders in San Francisco and Los Angeles must use the Waymo One app. So I think I'll have a little fun and download a Waymo One app and see how long it would take for one to come here to Charleston and pick me up. The partnership between Waymo and Uber is limited to passenger transport and does not include Uber Eats. Or deliveries. I actually had something delivered to me from Lowe's by Uber Eats. So that is the delivery business.
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You said that they have tentacles everywhere. I mean, I got a message today from Uber, and I thought about what you said yesterday on the show. But it said rent via Uber app, and you can actually rent a car via Uber Rent app. So I'm like, I didn't even know that was a vertical.
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I see that being a big tech platform, Uber. DoorDash broke out yesterday big time to the upside. Amazon Zoox is a future. Like, Amazon's not into enough things. They've got to get into this, too. They're a future competitor to Tesla in the U.S. autonomous driving market. Globally, Baidu, WeRide, and Pony... I think Pony's up 14% today. It can be up 14% one day and down 22% the next and up 23% the next. It's a wild thing, wilder than a Waymo on a steep hill in San Francisco. But what are they going to do? Can you give an autonomous car a ticket? Does Elon Musk have to pay the ticket? They're violating the laws. We'll see. Let's see. We've got Chenier Energy. Daniel, this is another big deal. This liquid natural gas. Europe, not only did Europe realize that they've been depending too much on the U.S. or on Russia for their energy... But Europe also realizes that they should have kept some of their coal-fired power plants and nuclear plants around because now they're behind. And liquid natural gas solves both of those problems, and it sounds like they're going to get a lot of it from the U.S., which Trump has been pitching for years.
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Well, I never understood why. I mean, they needed gas during the Biden administration, too. He never sold them any.
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right which just seemed i don't know he put a moratorium on it well and put them more more where they needed russia more than uh than us i don't know it didn't make sense to me but uh anyways and why europe turned to russia i guess proximity maybe but i mean can you really rely on russia to deliver and give you good service with a smile and green stamps and wash your window and check your wiper. I doubt it. It hasn't turned out too well. So anyways, Chenier is the big one. LNG is the big one. If you're going to play that space. But look, oil prices are getting crushed today. They're down $5 per barrel. Chenier is actually up 2% today. I think they're a major player in all of this and that liquid natural gas. And you know what? That's a cheap stock. It's why it's in our relative value portfolio. The P.E. ratio on Chenier right now is just 17.
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And I would say the blue chip and the LNG. Okay, a few more stocks to talk about when we come back, including some picks from some firms that I find to be a little bit questionable with their picks. We'll be right back.
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On a winter's day. You've got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do with it, whoever you. Go where you want to go and do what you want to do with whoever you want to be.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. And we will be headed to, we've got to get some firm dates. As soon as we get rusted up a little bit, you know, and we're headed for Bloomfield Hills, Michigan next. And that will be our next trip. I'm guessing, you know, four or five weeks out, something like that. And then to California. And then to Minnesota. So I always keep, you know, my radio equipment, Barry, is now stored in a little suitcase.
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Right? I know they always look at you a little funny when you're bringing that stuff through security.
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It always unnerves them to see that radio equipment with headphones, thinking that I'm going to hijack the plane to Cuba or something like that with radio equipment.
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I'm sure there's all kinds of transistors and some other weird stuff in there. I'm sure it looks interesting.
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Yeah, it looks pretty suspicious, blinking lights and stuff.
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But anyways, I carry it on board with me, put it in my overhead storage bin if someone hasn't already taken it from me. Okay, you know, look, I look at other analysts and what they're recommending, and there's a couple here today that caught my eye, and I'm going to look into them. Teladoc. Man, that thing got crushed. We sold it at $210 per share back in 2021. And that thing is now $8 a share after getting as low as $6. From $210 down to $6, headquartered in New York. Citron. which I believe is Andrew left. He's left the short-selling business because it hasn't been very profitable, I don't think. Tough to be a short-seller in a booming, raging stock market that's been, earnings have been going up since 2009. You're really swimming against the currents there trying to find short-sells. Teladoc extends gains. As Citron says, it's a coiled spring. Now, that always catches my eye, a coiled spring. Have you ever pushed down on a spring and let go and that thing, boom, and you never find it again?
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It's got two ways to go. It does that or it breaks.
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Especially in a little sprinkler. You know, it lands in the grass somewhere. The sprinkler's not going to operate without that spring. That's why I'm not a sprinkler repairman. I try. I usually get about 1,000 gallons of water right in the face when I hit the wrong button. or don't do the job correctly, or don't seal up the glue, or whatever. Okay, but he says it's a coiled spring. Now, here's my issue with Teladoc. They have no sales growth whatsoever. Minus 2%, minus 3%, minus 3%. They have totally leveled off. And it would seem that, you know, most like MUSC here in Charleston offers, you know, online. I have an online general practitioner that's online only. So that kind of cuts out Teladoc. I mean, they still do about $2.4, $2.5 billion worth of business a year online, but that's not profitable. They're going to lose $1.15 this year. They're going to lose 89 cents next year. So they have no earnings. When you have no earnings, you have to continue to either sell more stock and dilute what earnings you do have, or you have to raise debt. But Andrew Left is touting it today as a coiled spring, saying that AI will put it over the hump. Now Morgan Stanley... who I just find to be awful. That's just me. I'm sure they think I'm awful. They probably say, that guy's awful. Their top pick, a top pick, is Chewy. Well, I drove by Chewy on the way to Florida. Chewy is an $18 billion company, and it's headquartered there in Plantation, Florida. And Chewy is trading at 41, P.E. ratio of 41. On next year's earnings, it's trading at about 60. And you're looking at a grower, I don't know. Who did they buy a while back? I don't know. But Chewy is a pet product website. Everybody's in that business now. Home Depot's in that business. Walmart's in that business. Costco's in that business. Petco is in that business. I think we spend more money on our pets than we spend on our spouses.
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Well, and Amazon, I mean, you know, a lot of the stuff you can find, you know, short of the, I think, short of the meds for your, you know, prescription meds for your little one, you know, furry one. They've got a lot of choices where to get this stuff nowadays.
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Yeah. They like Chewy. It's on their top pick list. And then I see McDonald's is getting rid of it. They were offering Krispy Kreme donuts. They're ending their partnership because it didn't make any money for either one of them. It was hard to predict demand. You know who goes into McDonald's to get a Krispy Kreme donut? So that's over with, and Krispy Kreme is way down. Novo Nordisk rolls out their weight loss drug in India following Eli Lilly's Mongero launch. It seems like everybody wants in on the Indian market. And last but not least, man, they were throwing things at the management at the Nissan annual meeting. The performance of the stock has just been terrible. That and Stellantis was another one. Stellantis is trading at a P.E. ratio of 5. You say, well, why isn't it in your value portfolio? Because it has no momentum whatsoever. It continues to hit new lows. Now, if they can do something, I think what Stellantis is going to need is something new, an N, and they did get something new. They got a new CEO this week. So I will keep my eye on Stellantis, but, man, it's in such a deep hole, I don't know that it ever can climb out of that hole that it's in. All right, well, that's today's show. We had a rollicking good time. There was a lot of good stories here today. And if you want that four-week trial to, you know, the newsletter, the app, and the live trades for four weeks, Go to GundersenCapital.com. If you'd like to set up an online or telephone appointment with us, you don't have to drive downtown, fight the traffic, look for a parking spot. No, you just pick up the phone. and talk with us and we can do everything you can uh you can pdf files email your statements we'll take a look at them barry can do a plan for you 855-611-BEST 855-611-BEST have a great day everybody
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Join Kim Monson in this captivating episode where freedom, rights, and governance intersect. We begin with a critical examination of individual liberties, where rights do not translate into 'special rights.' This notion sets the stage for discussing the vital role of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers in protecting residents against excessive taxation and legislative overreach, offering listeners tools to make informed decisions. The episode takes a dynamic turn with current affair highlights—from Los Angeles' contentious minimum wage laws affecting hotel owners to the innovative strides made by tech executives entering the U.S. Army Reserve without undergoing traditional training. Kim navigates these developments with precision, aiming to unravel the intricacies of each policy's impact on ordinary citizens. Ending with a thoughtful analysis by Kevin Lundberg, drawing parallels between Gavin Newsom’s current challenges in California and historical precedents set by past political figures, this episode enriches your understanding of how past and present political actions resonate within society. Dive in for a thought-provoking discourse that promises to keep you pondering long after the episode concludes.
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We are an independent voice on an independent station. And we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, childhoods, or lives via force. And force obviously can be a weapon. But it can be policy, unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum's agenda and the globalist elite's agenda, that that's playing out through the United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor. And today I'm going to head out to Elbert County for the county commissioner meeting regarding Xcel Energy and their big land grabs. Imminent Domain, all that is another way to take people's stuff. So stay tuned. I'll let you know what happens with that. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. the KLZ website and the KLZ app. And I want to say thank you to my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayer Board members. We are working on our ratings report, which will be coming out. It's a lot of work, so it's going to take a little bit of time. But this is an all-volunteer group that is watching out for the taxpayer. Who's the taxpayer? Everybody. If you buy anything in Colorado... And pay sales tax, you're a taxpayer. So we watch out for all of you. We're all volunteers, and I want to say thank you to them. Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. When you see these folks out there, say thank you and join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. It's $25 a year, which works out to about $2.08 a month. And it is a great tool to have in your toolbox. During the legislature, when the legislature's meeting, we send out a weekly email on the different bills that we've taken positions on. Out of the 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced this last legislative session, we took positions on 261 of those. And we look at these, really our criteria is how does it affect the taxpayer? Is it an assault upon TABOR, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights? What about property rights? What about school choice, parental rights? So that's a great tool to have in your toolbox. This ratings report is also a great tool to have in your toolbox because you'll be able to see the ratings of all of the different legislators. They may say one thing and they may do another thing. And so that's a really important to know about that. So the guys, Producer Joe and Producer Luke, will be our featured guests in hour number two as we're doing our book report or book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And the word dominion was used in the chapter that we are going to review. So I thought, well, that would be a good word of the day. Dominion. It's D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. Dominion. Number one, it could be control or the exercise of control sovereignty. Number two, a territory or sphere of influence or control a realm. Number three, a self-governing nation under the nominal rule of the British monarch. And your challenge is to use the word dominion correctly. In a sentence today, and I was thinking about that voting system, how that related to this particular definition. But God has, let's say this, the creator, God has dominion over all that is happening here. Even though we look at the headlines and there's things that concern us significantly, we have to rest assured that God's in control. He has dominion over all of this. The quote of the day, I went to C.S. Lewis, and I was trying to find this quote, and I couldn't. Maybe it's in one of the books that I'd read. But basically, it was a quote because he lived through the bombing of London and of Britain during World War II. And he said that people continued to live their lives, though. They continued to get together with friends and marry and have celebrations and have children together. And we're in a time right now with a lot is in flux with taking out these nuclear facilities in Iran. And then yesterday, Iran lobbed some missiles at some of our U.S. bases. Then Trump announces that Israel and Iran have come to a ceasefire. And then I was talking to a good friend of mine saying that, gosh, there could be targets in the U.S. with these sleeper cells that came over Iran. the border, during the Biden-Harris administrations. There's a lot in flux, but we have to remember that God, Christ, has dominion over all of this. So I was looking for C.S. Lewis quotes, and C.S. Lewis was born in 1898. He died in 1963. He was a British writer, a literary scholar, and Anglican lay theologian. He held academic positions in English literature at both Magdalene College, Oxford, and Magdalene College in Cambridge. He's best known as the author of The Chronicles of Narnia, but he is also noted for his other works of fiction, such as The Screwtape Letters and The Space Trilogy, and for his nonfiction Christian apologetics, including Mere Christianity, Miracles, and The Problem of Pain. And he said this, he said, the moment you are disillusioned with the world is the moment you are starting to build a new one. And that is C.S. Lewis. Okay, some of the other headlines. This is... Denver in Los Angeles is a mess. That's all I can say. It's just a mess. And it's because of public policy. But Denver is a mess, too. And it's because of public policy, because this mayor and this governor and many of those in elected positions and the bureaucrats, they all want to be California. But this is from the Wall Street Journal. It says a $30 minimum wage has L.A. hotel owners in revolt. Whenever you have a forced minimum wage, it basically makes people, and it's an unemployment piece of ordinance or legislation. It says hotel owners are open revolt against L.A.' 's new $30 an hour minimum wage, the latest blow to one of the country's poorest performing lodging markets. This was supposed to be a great time to own a hotel in L.A. The area will soon be at the center of the globe's premier sporting events. First is the host city for the eight World Cup soccer games next year, and then the Super Bowl the following year. In 2028, L.A. hosts the Summer Olympics. But a pullback in foreign visitors and other issues have caused the LA hotel business to stumble again this year. Now hotel owners have to contend with what local union leaders say will be the highest minimum wage in the country. The city council voted last month To boost the wage for workers in hotels with 60 rooms or more, hourly pay currently 2032 will increase every year until it reaches $30 in 2028. And the industry is mounting an effort to roll all of that back. Let's see, the next thing, I talked with a colleague of mine yesterday because I was very concerned about this, and I don't quite know what to make of this yet. This is from Benzinga, and it is that Palantir and Meta, OpenAI, and Thinking Machines just had their executives sworn into the U.S. Army Reserve. And I don't quite know what to think about this because I'm so concerned about the surveillance on U.S. citizens. And I really, really want to work on figuring out a way that we own our data instead of big tech. But it goes on to say four top tech, and again, this is from Benzinga, four top tech executives have joined the U.S. Army Reserve as lieutenant colonels, skipping basic training and stepping directly into roles aimed at helping modernize the military. It says the initiative is part of a broader push by the Army to bring in private sector innovation and reshape how the service approaches technology, talent, and modernization. That word modernization is one kind of like sustainability. We have to be a little careful with that particular word. And it says the executives from Palantir, Chief Technology Officer Shikim Sankar, Meta, CTO Andrew Bosworth, OpenAI Chief Product Officer Kevin Wheel, and Advisor of Thinking Machines Lab and former AI Chief Research Officer Bob McGrew will serve in this new unit, called Detachment 201, also known as the Army's Executive Innovation Corps. So I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of that. Not quite sure what to make of it, but we will continue to watch that. Lastly, let's see, I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show because it's all of your support, all of our great sponsors that we are on the air and we really appreciate that. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we talked with Jody Henze yesterday with Mint Financial Strategies. But are you ready for your own financial freedom? As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing. a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. So call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And before we get to Kevin Lundberg, our featured guest today, I did want to give credit on these headlines that I mentioned on the Antarctic ice growth has left glaciologists perplexed. That's from Climate Compass, as well as Climate Compass is how the sun might be more responsible for global warming than we admit. And then Animal Planet published this piece as climate change overestimated. New data reveals oceans are cooling the planet faster than expected. And this whole climate change narrative has been used as the cudgel, the short stick in trying to control every aspect of our lives. our lives. It's our water and our property and our freedom of mobility and our housing and our energy, all of these things. And when there's freedom in those arenas, we're unleashing creativity and innovation to solve the challenges that we have, then everyday people will thrive and prosper. So this whole climate narrative has been used to, I think, reduce and prevent people, everyday people, from thriving and prospering. That's why A Climate Conversation is such an important film. You can find it at climateconversation.com. On the line with me is former state senator and author of The Lumberg Report, Kevin Lumberg. Welcome to the show. Thank you.
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Well, thank you, Kim. It's always great being with you.
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Yes. And the Lundberg Report, I mentioned the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and is really a great tool to have in your toolbox. And then Sue Moore and her group over at Liberty Scorecard, I'd recommend that people watch them. And then the trifecta on this is the Lundberg Report, which you publish every Saturday.
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Yeah, and work on it about every day of the week, too, because it's a collection of, during the legislative session, my main focus is what are the bills and where are they at and what are the good ones, what are the bad ones. But year-round, there are a lot of things going on. So I'm just trying to pick out all the things that I think are important and then deliver a very tight little package of three or four points, maybe two or three if they're big enough ones. that you can consider as it affects Colorado citizens.
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Well, and there's a lot going on out there. I thought one of these things that it was last week that you had highlighted was very interesting regarding Gavin Newsom and the comparisons and similarities to George Wallace over 60 years ago. And so walk us through that just a little bit.
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Well, of course, Newsom was trying to tell the president that the commander-in-chief cannot have any command over the National Guard in California to control the riots that were, you know, there were protests that were developing into full-scale riots. I mean, when you're taking cars and lighting them on fire and... um you know people are getting injured and things that that's that's just completely unwarranted and newsom was uh and the mayor of of uh l.a where they were kind of dragging their feet kind of reminded me of what what the jared polis did back in 2020 when uh you know some I'll just call them hooligans, took over the campus on the state capitol. And he said, oh, just let them do what they do. And so they destroyed the capitol for several weeks. You know, created millions of dollars worth of damage to a very important monument called the Colorado State Capitol. Well, anyway, Newsom is not... taking adequate action to control these issues. Neither is L.A. And so the president very appropriately nationalized at least enough of the National Guard troops in California to get out there and preserve the peace. And as I watch this unfold, I thought to myself, I've seen this happen before. I'm old enough, unfortunately, to remember when Governor George Wallace in Alabama refused to allow desegregation. And so the president, which was John F. Kennedy at the time, called out the National Guard in Alabama. And you see, normally... The governor is in charge of the National Guard in their state, and that way the governor, as far as a chain of command, for all of our military, we have a very unique circumstance where the ultimate commander is not a military leader. It's the executive of that state for the National Guard and the president of the United States for all of the U.S. military. And the National Guard is actually an arm of the U.S. military. It's that unique structure where the governor has local control of the troops. And I saw this while I was in the legislature on the State Affairs Committee, which is technically the State Military and Veteran Affairs Committee. And then when I was on the Joint Budget Committee, The Colorado National Guard is funded by the U.S. government. Very, very little state funding goes in, and that's because ultimately they are in charge. Well, anyway, so we see this thing with Newsom, and he's crying, oh, the governor, the president can't do that without my permission, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, that's exactly what George Wallace said back in the 60s. it was to frustrate what the president knew needed to be done to keep the peace. And I thought to myself, we need to show this comparison. And others picked up on it as well. But to me, it was just so obvious. And it kind of shows the duplicity of political rhetoric, shall we say, because The media didn't want to go there and say, well, he's just like George Wallace in that he insists he's in charge when the president asserts his valid authority. And the courts upheld that, too. I mean, it was kind of obvious to anybody who pays attention to this. So anyway, I wanted people to understand that we've seen this playbook before, and now George Wallace is held in really contempt. for his actions back then. At the time, he had his supporters, but not too many. And I think the same is going to hold with Gavin Newsom, as people look at it and say, he was just playing political games, trying to protect his turf and protect his politics. And Trump very appropriately kept the peace. Oh, and what happened out of it? Well, L.A. riots stopped. And it's not that there was a heavy-handed control. No, the troops were simply used to protect the population, not by any martial law or anything like that, because that's what they were kind of hinting at. No, it's just that it's kind of like what National Guard troops are used for here in Colorado when there was a big tornado. That decimated the town of Windsor, and I represented that area, so I ran right up there. Well, pretty quickly, the guard was up there to ensure that everything was done properly and held in order, and that's what happened here, too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and you had referenced a video by Vivek Ramaswamy, and I thought these three points in it were important. It said George Wallace fought against federal desegregation. Gavin Newsom now fights against federal deportations. George Wallace wanted segregated cities. Gavin Newsom now wants sanctuary cities. George Wallace blocks school doors, and Gavin Newsom blocks ICE vans. What a comparison. Well done on that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, as I say, it's just obvious you just have to be old enough to remember both sides. Or a good historian, maybe I should claim that.
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Claim that, yeah. You had to be just a little kid. That's during the George Wallace thing. We're going to continue the discussion with some other things with Kevin Lundberg. We do all of this because of our sponsors and very grateful for Karen Levine. She was in yesterday. For everything residential real estate, you want her on your side of the table.
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kim would love to talk with you again that's kim kimmonson.com and welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kimmonsonmonson.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice on an independent station Searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is noted as the home of heroes. because there were four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. Drew Dix, one of those Medal of Honor recipients, is a co-founder of the center. And they focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And their Portraits of Valor of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients is a very reverent place. And it's a great thing to take your kids, your grandkids there, and just talk about what it means, what these men did. And what they did is when the situation presented itself, They put their lives on the line to save the lives of others and protect them. And it's very important. So check it out. The website is AmericanValueCenter.org for more information. Again, located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. On the line with me is former state senator. and author of the Lumberg Report, Kevin Lumberg. Kevin, I really recommend that people check out the Lumberg Report every Saturday when it comes out. This is from the Christian Post, and this is regarding the Supreme Court decision which upholds a Tennessee law banning sex change surgeries and puberty blockers for kids. And you are really all over this issue because you are one of the top people at protect kids colorado which will have some ballot questions or it's petition gathering to get some questions on the ballot in 2026 so what's your thoughts about this this supreme court decision and then here in colorado i've seen headlines that those in colorado say that they're going to continue these surgeries and and pharmaceuticals on kids
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. It's really dramatic what occurred with the court and what's happening here in Colorado because the leaders of the state, like our attorney general and our governor, they are very supportive of allowing all this trans ideology to come down hard and fast on the people of Colorado. In Tennessee, here's what they did. And this is actually most states, just barely, but I think it's like 27 states already have addressed the trans ideology in one way or another to say, no, we're not doing that. And the biggest, probably the most obvious bizarre thing form is where they allow surgeries on children to change their physical bodies to be, you know, I'm trying to be gentle, this is a family program here, for a boy to look, act, and physically appear to be a girl, and for a girl to be a boy, which is impossible But it's just surgical destruction of these children's bodies. And we're talking about children here. You know, I saw a picture once, a meme, and it was a little kid dressed up like a pirate. And the little kid said something like, I told everybody I was a pilot, so they dug out my eye and chopped my leg off so I could have an eye patch and a peg leg. you know, and it's that absurd, but it's actually being practiced. And here in Colorado, it's being encouraged.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I found it interesting that the Supreme Court ruling was 6-3. That means that there were three justices that support this mutilation of our children. This is pretty scary.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because remember, What happened is Tennessee passed a law like, as they say, a majority of states have passed. I'm not going to say they're all identical, but very similar in these ideas. And in Tennessee, the law was that you can't do this to children. Now, they addressed both chemical and surgical issues. means, chemical meaning, feed kids hormones that their bodies are not producing to try to stunt their development as a boy or a girl, prevent the process of physical adolescence. And what this does is, for a woman, it causes their voice to lower, and it causes their muscles to grow in different ways. And for a boy, if you feed them estrogen, essentially that's what they're doing, it stunts their development as a man. And this is permanent stuff. Well, the surgeries are immediately permanent as they literally chop off body parts and then try to reconfigure, which doesn't work, by the way. You turn this individual into a lifelong patient for medical intervention. And, I mean, if you go into this in detail, it's just grisly. It's just barbaric. And yet three. Yeah. And Tennessee said, we're not going to do that to kids. And and this was being challenged to say, oh, you must allow this. And yeah, you're right. Three justices actually said, no, we think Tennessee should be prevented from being able to put this law in place. And let me be clear on this one other element here. The Supreme Court was not forcing anything. Actually, the Supreme Court was telling individual states, you can make this decision on your own. That's all they were doing, is saying this is not an issue that the federal government can control and overturn this decision. It's telling each individual state, the United States Constitution does not allow the federal government to step in on this. And so it wasn't forcing anything. It was saying, we don't have the power to stop this. And in essence, it was telling the states, yes, you can do this. You can make this decision that we won't allow these surgeries and these medical procedures in our state.
SPEAKER 17 :
So hence, Colorado, with all of the legislation and the support of transgender mutilation surgery and pharmaceuticals on our children, will become a sanctuary state for that, yes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yes, and I believe it was the Attorney General that suggested that uh pointed that out publicly in a statement after after this came down well you can still do this in colorado and we will defend that you know um okay and this guy wants to run for governor too the attorney general right yeah yeah yeah you know put put that all in your your mix i and then now and we'll get to that in just a minute i'll try to be kind of quick here because So that's the circumstance we have here in Colorado. And the Supreme Court wasn't saying Colorado can't do that. Understand that, too, that the court was taking a very conservative perspective on saying, we will not engage in this. Well, anyway, I'll leave it at that. And here in Colorado, we have a legislature and a governor who insist that we're going to be a a sanctuary state for really butcher doctors, I'll put it that way, because that's what they are, whether they do it chemically or through surgery. And the legislature is blessing this and encouraging this. Well, lay on top of that the fact that we, the people, disagree. And I know that for a fact on my experience with Protect Kids Colorado, as well as polling data and just flat-out common sense that most people know better. And Colorado shouldn't be going down this road of allowing and encouraging such gruesome, you know, I'll put it within quotes, medical procedures, because it's not medicine. No, and... And it's also not the argument they make is, oh, well, these kids will go out and commit suicide if we don't do this. Well, no, that's not true either. If you look at the facts, it's the exact opposite. When you push a child down this path and children don't make these choices on their own. And in Colorado, they allow 12 year olds to make decisions concerning their children. their mental health explicitly and their medical health in the sense that the parent finds a closed door when the doctor wants to talk to the child.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's not okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and it's not okay. So Protect Kids Colorado, we are working on putting an initiative together that will allow the voters of Colorado to override the legislature and the political power structure we have here. And why I think the Tennessee decision was so important is I knew that one of the big arguments that were going to be made against this is, well, we'll take it to court and we'll get this overturned. Well, the Supreme Court has said, no, you won't. No. No, each state has their prerogative to do as they choose in this area. And if the people of Colorado establish a law, now it's true the legislature could change a statutory law, but still we're fairly confident that they'll pay attention if we get this done. And the courts have preemptively approved what we're attempting to accomplish and that's why it's so important because it helps fortify the effort of protect kids colorado because we we are working on this right now um we're in some of the later stages of actually preparing petitions to distribute and i'm so encouraged and excited that in the next several weeks we're going to be ready to roll. We're on the backstretch of this. It's very complicated to put these things together and have that team in place, but we're doing it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, absolutely. And we had Yvonne Paez on yesterday who's heading up all of the petitions. And if you want to have anybody do that, she is the person for that. And more information, go to ProtectKidsColorado.org, ProtectKidsColorado.org. We are going to continue the discussion on a variety of issues with former State Senator Kevin Lundberg. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. If you have been injured, you want to make sure that you reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. As we are coming into Independence Day, Independence Week, a great thing to do to honor all of those that have put their lives on the line. were given their lives for our liberty would be to make a contribution to the USMCMemorialFoundation.org. So check that out. On the line with me is former state senator Kevin Lundberg. He is the author of the Lundberg Report, which you can find at KevinLundberg.com. That's L-U-N-D-B-E-R-G. Kevin Lundberg, another piece that you had highlighted this week In your Lundberg report was corrupt to the core. Colorado's judicial cartel is finally under the microscope. This is a pretty important piece. So let's let's go through that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I think it points out a little bit of what I try to accomplish with the Lundberg report, because I don't try to do all the research. the background research for every story, I try to point people to sources of good information. And this one is published by PJ Media, which they're real bulldogs on digging deep into stories. And this one talks about the court system in Colorado, particularly how it's been handling the election integrity issues. And, of course, right at the top of that is Tina Peters and her circumstance. And I followed that one pretty closely through the years. I mean, Tina is a dear friend of mine that I've worked with in the last several years. We've both gone down this path of trying to figure out how are our elections conducted here in Colorado. Well, a big roadblock that we come up against again and again how the courts handle this, how judges do. And we've seen this across the country, but in Colorado it seems to be more intense. And also, I will tell you that as a state legislator, through the years, I have been just thoroughly disgusted by how our Colorado court system works. I remember back in 2003, the state legislature redistricted as we constitutionally had a responsibility to do it will go into all the details on that but then it was run back through the state courts and the color of the supreme court comes up with a bizarre ruling that the legislature cannot redistrict because the supreme court did it two years earlier uh... because back then the legislature's sort of the way but the court came to this conclusion at that point they said because from time to time has to adjust legislation, and a court does, you know, if a law doesn't make sense, they sometimes have to sort it out. They said, therefore, the Colorado court system is a part of the legislature because the Constitution, the Colorado Constitution says the legislature shall redistrict. Well, since the court did it, the court came to the conclusion, well, we already did it, the legislature's already done it because the court did it. And that flies in the face of the separation of powers, which is another part of the Colorado Constitution. And I had to just shake my head in complete disbelief as how absurd they were in their logic. And I kid you not, that's exactly what they said in their 50-page decision back then. Now, I use that as an example of how bizarre some of our court decisions have become from our judges. And that's what happened with Tina Peters. uh... uh... uh... tried in mason county if you follow that case carefully discovered that that that the judge was just way over the top and uh... and this article points that out and also points out that last year it was the color court system that that said donald jay trump cannot be on the primary ballot And that was thrown into the U.S. Supreme Court, who unanimously said, you guys are crazy. You know, how do you come up to these things? Well, it's been so heavily politicized. And finally, there was an article that pointed these details out. And so I wanted to point everybody to this and say, look at this, read it carefully, because I think they did a very good job of exposing the – But from time to time, I will just use one of my subjects and say, go look at this, what they said here. Because what they're saying is really important stuff that we, the people of Colorado, need to know about. And I have a very low confidence level for the Colorado court system. And I hate to say that, especially in a public forum like this. But people need to know that it's just far too political in this country.
SPEAKER 17 :
state for our state courts system and we see it happening elsewhere but when it's happening here at home it's really important that we the people need to know about it well and kevin this didn't happen just overnight it's important to realize that the courts really the supreme court justices they're appointed by the governor aren't they or how how does that happen so well
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, actually, let me explain that a little bit, because there is a... The way the governor chooses the judges is he's given a choice of, I think it's three judges or possibilities, and then he picks the one that he wants. And that might be a decent system... if you had some balance within the executive branch in Colorado, in other words, the judges selected, and they serve in Colorado until the age of 72, I believe it is, or maybe it's 73, but there's a mandatory retirement at that point. So we do kind of flush things out at the end. But if you've got 50 years of almost all progressive, liberal, Democrat governors, because we only had one time with with the bill owens who served for eight years as a republican but aside from that you know it's it's been one-sided on on who's been selecting the the appointees and and so you end up with this overwhelming left-leaning progressive and and here's how it's spells out for governor are for judges progressive means you don't take the Constitution seriously You don't believe in original intent. You believe it's a, quote, living document. And so it's just anything goes. You know, you are the kings and the queens of the land if you're the judges. And we live in a country, a constitutional republic, where we establish our laws upon not the whims of individuals, but on the specific objective reality of a constitution, both at the federal level and at the state level. And it gets abused when all of your judges are appointed by liberal appointors.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we only have two minutes left, but how do we correct this?
SPEAKER 06 :
You're going to elect. You know, we've got an important election coming up in 2026, and we have— It'll be a new governor. We already pointed out an attorney general who has his hat in the ring on one side. And on the Republican side, there are, I think, over a dozen people running for nomination to be the Republican leader and candidate for governor. And the legislature is equally important because uh you know and that's all been pretty much one-sided for the last 20 years as well and only six years that the republicans controlled one um uh no they're eight years eight years within the last 25 years actually wow so elections really have consequences yeah and i think i didn't quite do my math right there but But pretty close, yeah. And so, yeah, you need to get engaged as far as who you send to the statehouse and who you vote for for governor and who you support. Not just voting, but now it's early enough in the process that people can really get involved. And I see a lot of people doing it. I really am somewhat upbeat for two reasons. One is... More and more people are understanding it within the Republican ranks. And I'm going to be partisan for the next 30 seconds here, because it really boils down to A or Party B. The Democrat Party has proven to be a bad choice here in Colorado for a lot of reasons.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, the Democrat Party has been taken over by radical extremists. Kevin Lundberg, I always appreciate it. We'll talk to you here in a couple of weeks. Thank you for all the great work that you do. And again, that's protectkidscolorado.org for more information. So have a great Independence Week, and we will talk soon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you very much. Great being with you.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And a lot of great information from Kevin Lundberg. Always appreciate him being on the show. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of our great sponsors, all of you, your support of the show, that we are able to bring all this information to you. So thank you so much. And check out our website. That is KimMonsonMonson.com. While you're there, make sure you're signed up for our weekly email newsletter. That goes out on Sundays. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. The text line, and I do want to hear from you, is 720-605-0647. Keep those cards and letters coming. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. That is on all KLZ 560 platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and then you can catch us on Spotify and iTunes as well. Our word of the day is dominion, and it is D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. It's a noun. It could be control or the exercise of control sovereignty. Number two, a territory or sphere of influence or control, a realm. Or number three, a self-governing nation under the nominal rule of the British monarch. So dominion is D-O-M-I-N-I-O-N. And I said that God has dominion over all the world. And thank you, Mark. He sent this over. Genesis 1, 26 said, But it does mean that we must be good stewards. of all of this as well. Now, what we have and what has happened is with these environmental movements is they have upheld the environment, the earth, the creation, they've upheld that as something to worship instead of the Creator. So we are to be good stewards of our earth, but we do have dominion over the earth and ultimately we want to be good stewards of the earth and we want to facilitate human flourishing and prosperity how do you do that that's liberty the responsible exercise of freedom which that is the core foundation of the american idea which of course we will be recognizing, celebrating on July 4, which next year will be our 250th birthday. A lot was happening 200 years ago, 1775, or 250 years ago, 1775. I do believe that we are in the third founding of America. determining what it is that we're going to pass on to the next generation is it going to be liberty responsible exercise of freedom or is it going to be tyranny and those that worship government that think government should be in control of everything that government is the answer the government is the king that is those that did the no more kings protests actually want government to be the king, and they want to be the ones that are in charge there. So that's very important to get the word dominion in the right spot. Our quote of the day is, is from C.S. Lewis, born 1898, died 1963. He was a British writer, literary scholar, Anglican lay theologian, and a Christian apologist. And he said this, the moment you are disillusioned with the world is the moment you are starting to build a new one. And we've got John Bozen on the line. John Bozen with Bozen Law. If you've been injured, you want to reach out to them. Some pretty heavy subjects today, huh, John Bozen? Yeah.
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Yes, and I chose the word dominion and C.S. Lewis today for our quotes. But let's get over to your business. And that is you help people if they've been injured. And sometimes they can be injured by a product or a defective product or pharmaceuticals. So what about that?
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Well, and sometimes it's becoming... kind of more and more all the time, depending on what you do and how many products and pharmaceuticals and things you take. And, yeah, I've been helping folks for 35 years go up against big pharma, big companies that put stuff out there that hurts people. Right now we're pursuing the GLP-1 drugs that help people help. Some people lose weight. Roundup is another product that a lot of folks have used, and it's been shown to be very dangerous for people that are exposed to it to a certain degree and then develop non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. A lot of bad stuff out there, whether it's a product or a pharmaceutical. I just encourage people, please do your research. More so with, I mean, it's easier with, nothing's easy anymore because there's so much misinformation out there. But if your doctor suggests that you go on a certain drug or pharmaceutical product, research, ask lots of questions, do your homework. If you take the time to look into it, you're going to find that a lot of stuff out there that's advertised, to do a certain thing comes with a lot of bad baggage and side effects. And some of these drugs are okay. And what I mean by that is not every drug affects every person. But there's enough folks out there that may have a problem that you just really want to just ask yourself before you take something that you don't necessarily need but it's something suggested. that you don't do it that way. You do it the old-fashioned way. I am referring right now to the GLP-1 products that talk about how easy it is to lose weight. Bad stuff out there, and companies put profit over people on a regular basis. They do that risk-benefit analysis, and that's the sad part. They often, almost always know there's a problem They don't disclose it because they're making money hand over fist. And they take that calculation and they figure they can get away with it for a certain period of time and make X amount of dollars and then deal with the lawsuits and the cost of defending those lawsuits down the road. And I've seen it over and over and over again.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And do you have big dreams for your future, but you're not quite sure how to get there? Well, call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. They know your financial life is unique, and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first. No sales pressure, no one-size-fits-all approach, just thoughtful guidance built around you. Take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And today is Producer Joe, Producer Luke, the young guys. We're doing our book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And we've got Joe behind the board, and we've got Producer Luke on the line. We're going through Chapter 6 today. which is, you know what, yeah, I did. I want to make sure I did the Word of the Day and the Code of the Day, which, and I pulled the Word of the Day from the title here of Chapter 6, of new dominions which have been acquired by one's own arms and powers. So let's start with you, Producer Luke, on this particular chapter from The Prince. What's your thoughts about it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thanks for having me. Always good to be here. Sorry I couldn't be in studio. Got a little hot up this morning, but I figure being here over the phone is just all right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, good to have you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, thanks for having me. Chapter 6, it was interesting. It's been a little while since I've gone through the full book. And we read it, so when we were discussing which chapters to cover, and I was flipping through it, I saw chapter six. It kind of jumped out as a little topical, especially with all the stuff that's kind of coming out of the Middle East for what feels like the 100th time this, you know, decade. Sort of, what is it, conquering new principalities. So I have my physical book with me because I know we talked. What was it? The last time we were on there are some differences between the digital version and the physical version. So I have a physical version. Okay. Conquering new principalities, which are acquired by one's own arms and abilities. And it takes, I think, a pretty ruthless approach when it comes to both conquering and then maintaining power within a nation. And I think this chapter we really see kind of this idea of uh you know the word machiavellian to kind of be on full display here uh where uh one of the things uh you know he talks about a couple times within this chapter is uh almost he doesn't say the word ruthlessness but almost this idea of ruthlessness it's a very like kill or be killed mindset that he kind of takes on. There's a lot, I think, to unpack here. So without getting too verbose, I think it's interesting to try and take a look at some of his ideas and some of sort of the strategies he employs today and seeing how a lot of those are still almost kind of in effect today.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. So Luke, Producer Luke, with the strikes and taking out the nuclear capability facilities for nuclear weapons in Iran, what is your ear to the ground? What is the people that you, the circles that you travel in, what are they saying about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, boy. Well, when it comes to Iran, I think their opinions in this instance mirror mine pretty closely in that I really, deeply do not want to be involved in the Middle East anymore. It is, you know, we as America have been in the Middle East for so long. And it's just... For us, right, for me and my friends in our position, it's not our fight. It's not, you know, I think they need to sort themselves out. And the fact that we keep getting involved is a huge problem. My personal piece from it, too, is we just left the Middle East. And when we left the Middle East, we gave them all of our good stuff. And now we're coming back in, essentially... with this intent to use our own weapons to fight the enemy with our weapons that they stole from our poor exit. It's just, I don't know, it's a mess all around. I don't want to be involved in it anymore.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Okay, Producer Joe, question to you. In the circles that you travel with, what are your friends saying about this taking out the nuclear weapons capability of Iran?
SPEAKER 16 :
My group is saying actually kind of the opposite of Luke, unfortunately. Or, well, I mean, we're all open to our opinions, but... I think the best way I've heard it so far is it's like the bully on the playground, right? If you are off to the side and you're watching this one kid push around all of these other people, at some point or another, you've got to stand up and fight the bully. And that's kind of what we did. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And... I, like you, well, both of you, I don't like the idea of war. I don't like the idea of us being involved in a war. I also don't like the idea, though, of terrorists having nuclear weapons, Luke. And is that a subject that you and your colleagues are talking about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. And I get the sentiment, because in principle and on theory, I agree. Terrorists do not have nuclear weapons. For me, in sort of our group, we've been burned too many times. If I had a dollar for every time we attacked the Middle East under the promise of intercepting or destroying weapons of mass destruction, I'd have enough money to build my own army to double-check that there are weapons of mass destruction. It feels like it's the same excuse. And for me, personally, it makes me question. If we haven't been able to, you know, to stop this for the past, you know, 24 years we've been involved with this, then what are we doing? You know, we've been in the Middle East hunting for weapons of mass destruction since September 11, 2001. It just... I don't know. I'm not... I'm not sure I fully buy it this time. It feels like it's the same excuse.
SPEAKER 17 :
So do you, again, your colleagues, do they feel, because going back to the prints by Niccolo Machiavelli in Chapter 6 of New Dominions, which have been acquired by one's own arms or powers, we just went through these no kings protests. So are those out there saying that Trump authorizing taking out these nuclear weapons facilities, that he's trying to conquer or be a king? Are you hearing that at all?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that a bit. Now, I think you could inform me a bit here, because my knowledge on this subject is a bit more limited than I'd like. A common sort of issue I see brought up here is that, and it's also a little bit of my understanding, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought authorizing a strike on a foreign nation is In essence, right, an accurate confirmation of war. I thought that was Congress who had to approve that. And as far as I'm aware, Congress didn't.
SPEAKER 17 :
That is a very valid point, I think. And so I'm looking at a fact check because, and I can't remember in history, that President Obama ordered strikes as well. I need to actually research that out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I'm aware that Obama had ordered strikes. I remember that. But that was when we were already at war. I think we had pulled out. So that's where I think a lot of the sort of contention comes from. Clearly some of it is from what I've seen. And, you know, speaking on a more personal level, I also feel personally kind of burned by this decision because one of Donald Trump's primary platforms that he was kind of campaigning on, was this idea of no new wars. Famously, he had proclaimed pretty potently that when he took office that the war between Russia and Ukraine would be dealt with in 24 hours, and that is an issue that still persists, but regardless, he had still mentioned pretty vocally no new wars. That was a very huge campaign platform. So to go back on that one rather blatantly feels more like a It's like a fool-me-once kind of situation, right? And I feel like we're quickly approaching the twice-fooled portion of that little saying.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Still, I think the bottom line is, should a terrorist organization country have nuclear weapons? That's the big question, don't you think, Luke?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think it's pretty universal. I think most, if not every person, would agree that terrorists should not own nuclear weapons. I think the thing that's up in the air is, do they actually have nuclear weapons, and is this a genuine threat? Like I said... It feels like it's an excuse they've used before. So while it's not an immediate dismissal, I'm not as gung-ho about it as I may have been 15 years ago. Okay. Because, you know, 15 years ago they said the same thing. They have weapons of mass destruction. We need to go in. We need to stop them from getting weapons of mass destruction. And if we couldn't do that in 15 years, I think it, I don't know, it maybe shows a failure of us or maybe not everything's above board.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Before we go to break, producer Joe, do you want to weigh in on this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. I think the biggest thing that gets me, and you got to consider that Iran is a split nation as well. It's the Ayatollahs who are doing all the craziness, but there's a lot of people who are against them in Iran. And if They speak out, they die, though. That's the unfortunate situation. So it's not like the whole country is trying to compete with us. But when they build these underground nuclear facilities and then say, oh, we're just... We're trying to get nuclear energy, but they were refining it. I think I read it was like up to 70% or something like that refined uranium. You only need about 30% for good nuclear energy. And so there was definitely some questionable things. And I think Trump just... stood up or um was the bigger uh shoe if you would and he he was just trying to stand up for israel however i i am not a fan of getting back into the middle east either but it at some point or another we gotta do something to get this over with and i think that's what he's trying to accomplish
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. The text line, and you all are on it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And on the line with me is producer Luke. Behind the boards is Producer Joe. We're going through Chapter 6 of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli, which is our book review we're doing each month. This title is of new dominions which have been acquired by one's own arms and powers. And Anna, thank you for sending this in because there are those that have said Trump should be impeached because of this, taking out these nuclear weapons facilities in Iran. But Anna was on this, and this is where other presidents have taken action regarding bombing. She said Lyndon Johnson, 1963 to 69, Vietnam, the Dominican Republic. Richard Nixon, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, nothing significant. Ronald Reagan, Libya and Grenada. George H.W. Bush, Iraq and Panama. Bill Clinton, Iraq, Serbia, Sudan, Afghanistan. Let's see, let's get to her next one. Then George Bush, Afghanistan, Iraq. Barack Obama, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. So I think that is important, Producer Luke, to take a look at that from a historical standpoint. I was not aware of all of that. And if I wasn't, you probably weren't either.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no, I was not aware of the extent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, me either. So anything else we want to say on this? Because I found there another component in this chapter that I thought was very interesting, very relevant to Trump and what Trump is trying to do to push back on this big administrative state that we have. So anything else on that, Producer Luke? And then I'll ask you, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. It's a more personal sort of anecdote and position uh machiavelli states later in this chapter and sort of talks on themes of uh like use of force and violence as an integral part of sort of maintaining control um and i don't disagree right so i want to make it clear that i don't uh while i sort of morally and ethically think war is a universal bad, right? The death of the United States soldiers and stuff like that is always going to be a tragedy. However, unfortunately, the world we live in, war and violence are a very natural consequence of different ideas and different forces working against each other. It's necessary. I don't think we should... I think it's a little maybe... too optimistic to say we should never have a war again. It's a nice idea, but it's never going to happen. That being said, when it comes to the Middle East, I don't want to be involved in the Middle East anymore. But if we have to be, then I think what force we do decide to use could be so astronomically overwhelming that we solve the problem as quickly as possible. I don't think the current climate in america can handle another 20-year war in the middle east i agree i think if if there's a problem that you solve that problem very very quickly and you get out of it okay uh then some things coming in on the text line that i want to address any other comments on this producer joe
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm in complete agreeance with Luke, and I think just Donald Trump is the person to do that right now because he is very quick to action and wants to get the job done. He doesn't want to piddle paddle around, and I think that's where it's very important we have the right person for right now.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Next thing coming in on the line from Jenny. She said, I agree with Luke in the sense that the U.S. always has an excuse to go to war for the military-industrial complex. The withdrawal from Afghanistan left enough of our equipment to supply a whole army with weapons of mass destruction. Are these wars part of the Hegelian dialectic? And that will be something that we'll want to address at some point in the future. And let's see here. It says this is from Mark. He said a parallel with Russia and Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine to prevent nuclear weapons from being placed on their border. Quite similar to Trump attacking Iran. And then this came in from Susan. She said when Obama ordered strikes, we were not at war. Only Congress can declare that the president has allowed limited strikes without going to Congress first. And it goes on to say that that with these Democrats being elected, If these Democrats were not elected, none of these wars would be happening. And, Luke, I had had a very well-informed listener that had reached out regarding Iran and said in 1978 – Jimmy Carter actually pulled my colleague's colleague in and said, ask the Shah to resign. At the time when the Shah was in power in Iran, it was prosperous. Women could go to school. They didn't have to wear all the cover-up garb and all that. And when the Ayatollahs came in, they came in and totally oppressed the people. And then under Obama... There were pallets of cash that were sent by plane to Iran, which could be used for terrorism. And then under the Biden-Harris administration, basically kind of stepped aside to let the nuclear capabilities continue to grow. So the Democrats have facilitated, I think, the rise of power of Iran in the Middle East, Luke.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think sort of hearkening back to what one of the first texters had stated, you know, there always seems to be an excuse. And that's, I think, kind of where I'm at intellectually on this topic. It's like, man, it feels awfully convenient that there's always some reason to go to war over there. uh, you know, Donald Trump and the current administration. And this, this definitely begins to edge towards the side of maybe, maybe not. Uh, so grains of salt and all that, obviously, uh, my views on this matter, uh, are very different. Uh, you know, I know, uh, the pieces that I know, but I think, I think it feels like an excuse. I think it feels like, uh, a very good, oops, got to go to war again, uh, because a wartime president, uh, is always almost a little bit more stable because it sort of rallies the troops, both literally and metaphorically. Okay. Yeah, like I said, if we have to do it, right, if we have to be involved, then get it done quickly. Okay. Because, you know, fly some planes with really big bombs and wipe your hands of it. I don't, you know, if we have more American citizens coming home with, you know,
SPEAKER 17 :
lost legs and uh you know ptsd from dirty bombs for another 20 years i think that's going to cripple us yeah that's a very interesting point this came in again susan said regarding iran it said it'd be one thing if iran wasn't busy running around every day saying death to america and talking about all the people they're going to kill if they weren't doing that uh it'd be a different story she's got an excellent point on that producer joe your thoughts
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I'll bring it back to the playground bully analogy. If the playground bully is sitting there saying, I'm going to beat you up at some point or another, you got to take them seriously. And I completely agree that... We don't want war, and you're right, or Luke's right. It's going to cripple us if we have another 20-year war, but Trump does things very decisively and quick, and so I have hope that... It's not going to be elongated out like the last two presidents have done. The two presidents, Obama and Biden, have done to make it last much longer than it probably should have.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Yes, I think being decisive is pretty important on that. So we're going to go to break. When we come back, there is a part in this chapter from The Prince where it says of new dominions which have been acquired by one's own arms and powers. But it talks about rules and regulations and how those have been used to establish positions. And it's probably about in the middle of the chapter. And so I want to get Producer Joe and Producer Luke's comments on that because it looks to me like the PBIs, what they're trying to do to stop the Trump administration as Trump is trying to get this country back together. back to a spot where it really is supposed to be. And so we're going to continue the discussion. These happen because of our sponsors. And he was in studio yesterday, and that's Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And another nonprofit I would really recommend that you support is the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. And they focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. They're nonpolitical. They're nonpartisan. But they are doing amazing work to find out more about them. And all their programs, their K-12 educational programs, their On Values presentations, and, of course, recognizing our Medal of Honor recipients. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with us is Producer Luke. Behind the boards is Producer Joe. We're doing our book review of The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli. And Gammy texted this. She said... It appears that by doing what Trump did, it probably stopped a complete war between Israel and Iran by interjecting a move that he can do because of agreements in the past. And so that Iran is not able to get nuclear capabilities. And she did, again, address what I did, the fact that Obama paid Iran in pallets of cash for And I think several billions of dollars. I think there's a B in that. There are those that say, well, that was their money that was here in the U.S. However, giving money to terrorists I don't think is a good idea. Okay, changing gears here, Producer Luke and Producer Joe, in, let's see, it's in the, I guess it's the second paragraph. The first paragraph's long. A few lines down, it says, "...those who by heroic means, such as these, become princes, obtain their dominions with difficulty, but retain them easily." And the difficulties which they have in acquiring their dominions arise in part from the new rules and regulations that they have to introduce in order to establish their position securely. So I'm thinking, Luke and Joe, about PBIs. They have to get these new rules and regulations in place. It goes on to say, it must be considered that there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle than to initiate a new order of things. Now I'm thinking of Trump and Doge. So for the reformer has enemies and all those who profit by the old order and only lukewarm defenders and all those who would profit by the new order. And this lukewarmness arises partly from the fear of their adversaries who have the laws in their favor and partly from the incredulity of mankind who do not truly believe in anything. So drilling down on this, I'm looking at Trump and Doge and all these rules and regulations that they're trying to impose. get back under control, get rid of those. And there are those that have their feet just really dug in, that they do not want to let anything happen. So what's with Doge and reducing the size and scope of government? What's your thoughts on that, Producer Luke? And then we'll go to you, Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think you see it as a little microcosm of just about anything where power exists. It's kind of interesting to watch it happen on a very large scale that's very visible, because a lot of the same principles can be applied even on the smallest level. A new manager comes into your place of work and in doing so implements a whole bunch of new rules to try and leave their mark or to change things up. And, you know, it makes people angry or, you know, the new head of an HOA is elected and all of a sudden that power immediately goes to their head. and they try and, you know, start enforcing odd rules or making changes. All of it, regardless of scale, from a new manager to a store to the owner of an HOA to PBIs to, you know, those in the highest seats of power in our government, who do these changes benefit? And I think if we can get some eyes on that, I think it'll open a lot of very important doors sort of keep us informed. Nothing happens without reason. And while sort of on principle I think it's easy to agree with Doge, right, this idea of cutting unnecessary government spending, still I want to make sure that we sort of assess everything as thoroughly and logically as possible and figure out, you know, is this benefiting anyone in a way that it maybe shouldn't?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, now I'll interject here. I think that the work that Doge is attempting to do to reduce the size and scope of government, to reduce rules and regulations, it's a monumental job because all of this is so entrenched. But it has got to be done, and when I say it's got to be done, to have government grow and grow and grow to a point where it is the king, and government wants to take everything that you, or most everything that you work for, then we become slaves of government. And so I think that the work that Doge has been doing in reducing government is super important. Your thoughts, Producer Jo?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think there was a word in that paragraph that you just read, the heroic means. That, I think, is very important. We have seen PBIs and everybody in between kind of push against Trump because they want to keep lining their pockets. I mean, you can look at the climate conversation just for that reason. And Trump is... trying to put it back to reality and i think that is a very key point in all of this is he's he's been there's been attempts on his life twice and on top of that he has all these other people kind of fighting back and slandering his name i mean they tried to bring him to court or brought him to court even. He's having to go through all of these hardships. And when you think about Hercules, he had his 10 trials before he became a hero. And I think that is very key to this.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Very good point. Anything else on that, Luke? Because I've got some other text messages regarding Iran on that, but regarding Doge.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I think we'll probably spend the rest of our time getting to those text messages, so I did want to sort of leave off from the text one piece nearer the end of the chapter, which I thought was very interesting. My copy of the text states here in the second-to-last paragraph, if Moses, Cyrus, Thessius, and Romulus had been unarmed, they could not have enforced their constitutions for so long. It then goes on to say a little bit later, therefore, such as these having great difficulties in consummating their enterprise, skipping ahead, yet with the ability to overcome them, and in this overcoming, it says here, and those who have envied them and their success are exterminated, they will have to be respected and they will continue afterwards powerful, secure, honored, and happy. And it's kind of interesting, you know, The Prince by Machiavelli was written in approximately 1513, released some decades later, a little bit later in time there. But it kind of hearkens to the American idea in general in that, you know, in being armed and in overthrowing your oppressors. They were more successful in maintaining their constitution and maintaining power. So to see that idea theorized about a good number of years before America even thought to try it, very interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
Gosh, Luke, I had not... really connected that dot. But as you mentioned it, yes, that has the basis of the Second Amendment, where the Second Amendment is there that people have the right to keep and bear firearms. And the reason is, is to be able to protect ourselves against bad actors. And when we look at liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom in a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, That means that we should be able to have firearms to, again, protect ourselves against bad actors who might want to totally take all power, which we're seeing government is really wanting to get to a point where it takes everything. And I love the Second Amendment, but I really think we can engage in this battle in ideas without picking up arms. I think that we can reclaim our country by having the conversations such as what we're having right now, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the whole thing with having arms, in my opinion, too, is just the ownership of it is a deterrent. So if it's on your hip, generally you're not going to get mugged as much. And I think that's the key point is we don't want to ever come to violence, but we need to be able to say, hey, if you don't stop, it will get violent.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Excellent point. But that's, again, that's why we have deterrence. And that's why the Second Amendment is important. Luke, we've got about a minute left. Good point on this. How do you want to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 09 :
Man, I think there's a lot to take in, and to those who haven't read The Prince by Nicola Machiavelli, it's a worthwhile read. At the very least, to sort of see how a lot of these ideas and principles, which again, to sort of recap very briefly, What Machiavelli did in The Prince is, in essence, sort of reveal or unmask the tactics that those in power have been using for some time. It is framed as an advice piece, but what it really is doing is sort of telling the tell-all tale of how those in power kind of maintain and acquire their power. And even written in 1513 to see how cyclical some of these ideas are, to see those same principles keep returning over and over and over across all of history, I think kind of, you know, maybe if we read ahead, we might have a good idea of what's to come.
SPEAKER 17 :
And that's why the founders were so well-read. They understood this. That's why the American Constitutional Republic is so unique throughout the history of mankind. Producer Joe and Producer Luke, you guys are real sports to do this. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you for having me, Kim. And it's always a pleasure to be here.
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Dr. Bruce Everett of the CO2 Coalition joins John Rush and Andy Peth to expose the costly myths behind “green” energy. From a booming 5,000-well oil and gas project in Wyoming to the untapped reserves crushed by bureaucracy, this episode is a firestorm of facts on energy, subsidies, pipelines, and politics. Everett explains why the U.S. could fuel generations with natural gas—if only the government would step aside. Plus: an unfiltered takedown of ethanol, solar, wind, and the ideological war on fossil fuels. Also featuring lively listener calls, insight on the evolution of auto efficiency, and even a pop-culture detour into masculine representation in movies.
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All right, Hour 2, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie Grimes, our engineer. Dr. Bruce Everett joining us now. He is a board of director from the CO2 Coalition. Dr. Bruce, welcome. We normally have Mr. Wrightstone on with us, but you are filling in, and I am sure you will do a fabulous job.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'm delighted to be here, John and Andy. Greg is a good friend of mine. He's done a great job. He's a great scientist.
SPEAKER 04 :
We always enjoy having him, by the way. Try to on a pretty routine basis. Now, we've got something going on, and our signal goes all the way up into Wyoming, so this will fit in perfectly. I've got in my notes here that Trump is ready to move forward with a 5,000 oil well and gas project in Wyoming, which, by the way, benefits a lot of our listeners that are in that area. But Colorado is, well, actually the whole nation, I should say, Dr. Bruce. It's fantastic. It's fabulous.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the United States, John and Andy, has huge energy resources. And one of the things that we've been fighting in the CO2 coalition is this nonsensical idea that we ought to limit our fossil fuel production because of carbon dioxide. This makes no sense at all. You know, 50 years ago when I started working in the energy industry, U.S. oil production was on the way down, and people thought that would continue. And we didn't realize, first of all, how big our resource base was, and second, how good our technology is. All the government has to do is get out of the way, and the industry will develop all these areas, all these resources, and all the government needs to do is to make sure that the infrastructure is available to move it where it needs to be.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dr. Everett, now that the industry has leaped forward in its technology with all the fracking technologies and so forth, and it can reach in to where oil was previously not as easily, you know, let's face it, not as easily found. Could we be looking at an oil boom? Because you've had, let's face it, bad leadership hold us back, hold us back, hold us back, hold us back. And in the meantime, the industry was developing great technology. drilling tactics, are they ready to just go nuts?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let me put it this way. For the last 150 years where the oil industry has been in existence, every year in the United States, we find more oil than we use. Right. And the reason for that is technology outstrips depletion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, you can't guarantee that that'll always be true, but it's always been true in the past. My personal view is do not bet against technology. Now, let me just tell you this. When I first went to work for Exxon in 1980, our management didn't think that the oil market could be in balance in the year 2000 at a price lower than about $200 a barrel. Really? In 1980?
SPEAKER 04 :
So 20 years later, they were thinking that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, in 1980, they thought that by the year 2000, you'd need $200 a barrel. Wow. By the year 2000, it was much lower than that. Yeah, yeah. And what they got wrong was they didn't understand the power of their own technology.
SPEAKER 04 :
There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sorry to interrupt. This is like Al Gore predicting 20-foot high waves crashing over California.
SPEAKER 04 :
In their defense, to your point, Dr. Everett, we didn't have the technology then that we have today, fracking and the ability to pull oil out of the ground like we have now. And now that we have that, of course, it has changed things immensely. And again, I was not in the oil and gas industry. I'm a car guy, come out of the automotive industry and so on. And I will say in 1980, I didn't know much about that end of things. I had a good friend of my dad's that was a core sample driller that would go around to different areas of the country, taking samples to determine what was down there and what kind of oil can we extract and so on and so forth. And that was about the extent of what I knew, Dr. Everett, when it came to that. But... You had to believe, though, and this is where I struggle a little bit with this, is you had to believe that, wait a minute, technology, even in 1980, was far better than it was in 1970, which is far better than it was in 1960. So why wouldn't you have been led to believe that it would continue to move forward in that area even in 1980?
SPEAKER 03 :
Depends on how big a bet you're willing to make and how conservative you want to be. When I was teaching, gentlemen, I always told my students, don't bet against technology. It's not a good idea. Let me make another point, because we have a very big oil resource base in the United States that we're in the process of developing. But we have an even bigger natural gas resource base.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the difference here is that once you find commercial quantities of oil, you can pretty much move it by ship, by truck, by barge, by rail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Gas requires pipelines.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we've been living in an environment for many years now in which all kinds of constraints are put on our pipeline production. Now, I live in Massachusetts, and the state government here tries to block natural gas from coming in here because they want us to use windmills and solar to power our homes and heat our food and our hot water, and nobody wants it. So we end up paying very high prices for natural gas when it's very cheap on the Gulf or in Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER 04 :
And correct me if I'm wrong, because in your area, too, don't you also still use heating oil in a lot of the homes to heat the homes, whereby gas would be a much better alternative? Or am I wrong in that?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that's absolutely correct. And anybody that's changing out their furnace... who has access to natural gas, will almost always switch from heating oil to natural gas. It's a better fuel, it's cleaner, and it's cheaper. If we unlock this through decent government policies, which we're now starting to see, then the American people are going to have abundant oil and gas at a low cost, not just for our grandchildren, but I believe for our grandchildren's grandchildren. I agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dr. Everett, I mean, you guys are still using heating oil up there. I had no idea. Does your flag have 13 stars? I'm just curious, you know, because we've kind of moved ahead of that. Let me ask you another question because it's going to be incredible what we're opening up in Wyoming. I think there's going to be an oil boom there. What about the president's aspirations in Alaska?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think as long as the president opens these federal areas to exploration, the industry is going to know what to do. And by the way, I have a special spot in my heart for Wyoming because I lived up in northeast Wyoming for two years working in the coal industry. And Wyoming is one of the best places in the United States to get into the resource business. So it's an automatic place to pick. If you want to start developing additional resources, whether it be coal or natural gas or oil or even uranium at some point. So I think the president's got the right attitude. We're not going to stop fossil fuel production in order to stop carbon dioxide emissions, which cost the American people a lot of money and carry no benefit at all. And we're going to open these things up so that you and everybody else has abundant, cheap energy for the foreseeable future. I'm very optimistic about this now because I think the American people's eyes have been opened on this.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was reading, Dr., in fact, my son and I were talking about this just last week before I even booked you to come on and talking about what's going on in Wyoming and so on. I just was doing some research, and this is at current levels, current rate of production. So to your point, we continue to find more. We continue to improve our ways of producing and so on. And currently right now, the United States of America has enough recoverable natural gas to last roughly 86 years, and that's without finding anything new at all. That is a huge amount.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, and people get confused. When we use the term reserves, that usually means the amount that's already been drilled and we know is there. Correct. We use the term resources to mean all the stuff we haven't found yet. So the reserves are kind of like what you have in your pantry. And people kept talking for years, well, if I run out of food in my pantry, I'm going to starve to death. No, you won't.
SPEAKER 04 :
You'll go buy more. That's right. Just a thing called a store. Well, in this case, to your point, Dr. Everett, we find more pockets. We find more deposits. We improve our technology to retrieve those particular pockets and so on. I mean, us in Colorado, if there's anybody that should know how this works or folks that live in Colorado, because we've been using fracking and things along those lines now for quite some time, and it's helped our state. If we'd had the right government here in the state, we'd even be better off –
SPEAKER 03 :
long term fortunately wyoming does and they're going to reap the benefits of that and they're prepared to do it too if you look at the other end of the spectrum gentlemen in new york state for example there's a lot of gas resource in the western part of the state it's forbidden by state law to develop it and why is that because those are largely poor republican areas out in the state and the state is run by the people in manhattan they think this is they don't like this But if you allowed those resources to be developed, the people in the western part of New York would be thrilled. They'd get some economic development, and you'd have more northeast gas to spread around to New England and New York. It's there.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've got one question really quick. Just really quick, jumping back to the pipelines, just to make sure that, and maybe you know this answer, maybe you don't, Dr. Everett, but on average, you know, what does it cost today? Because even the pipeline technology has improved greatly from what it used to be. On like a per foot or per mile basis, what's it cost to put a pipeline in now versus what it used to?
SPEAKER 03 :
It costs probably a million dollars a mile.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Some years ago. Is that all? Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, a thousand miles, that's a billion dollars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Good point.
SPEAKER 03 :
But, you know. But real quick.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, sorry, you recouped that pretty quick. You do. And typically, and just, again, make sure that I'm following correctly. Typically, you're going to, unless you're exporting, you know, liquefied natural gas or doing something along those lines, you're only piping it to where your general uses are. So wherever your big city is or maybe some of the surrounding rural areas and so on, you're not necessarily pumping it from California to Washington, D.C. Am I right in my thought process?
SPEAKER 03 :
You're absolutely correct. Normally, what we have is big trunk lines, which is, say, three feet in diameter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
It can move long distances.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know exactly how those look here in Colorado. Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they go to the city gate, and they're divided into smaller pipelines that reach various neighborhoods. And then the pipes come down your street and into your house. You know, I think there's a funny story that I always tell my students. The father of the American pipeline industry was Nazi Admiral Donitz. Because at the beginning of World War II, we were shipping our oil around the coast in tankers, and he sent his U-boats over to sink them. So we said, we better not tolerate that. So we started to build these big pipelines in the interior of the country. And we now have a very good system, but it needs to be expanded. And you can't allow people in New York to say, okay, you can bring it here, but no farther.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Good point. Great point. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Last question, and it's a moral question, okay? Because you were talking about Western New York and how New York is holding them back. Let's talk about Western United States, more importantly, California. Isn't it immoral for a state – to block off the incredible oil resources off their coast for the rest of the country. I mean, isn't this a federal issue? Isn't this, to me, it should be a federal issue. It should be, because you're actually coming, when you hold back the energy for America, you're making us less safe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you're absolutely correct. And what makes this even worse is California's highways are clogged with automobiles using gasoline. and they don't like refineries, and they don't like oil production. They want someone else to do that for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think that makes your moral point even stronger.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, very good point. Great point. All right, Dr. Everett, thank you. It's always a joy having you guys on. I appreciate it very much, the work that you guys do at the CO2 Coalition. How do folks follow you?
SPEAKER 03 :
If you log on to co2coalition.org, There's a wealth of information there. You'll find all Greg Wrightstone's books. You'll find all the articles written by our 200 members. And there's a learning center for kids. All the information you need about this is there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Awesome. Put that into my notes, as we always do. And, again, we appreciate you guys being a regular guest of ours. I learn so much every time you guys are on, and you're just a wealth of information and really giving the truth in a way that I think everybody can understand, which I appreciate greatly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thanks for having me on the program.
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putting reason into your afternoon drive this is John Rush
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Adding a couple things into what we were just talking to Dr. Bruce Everett about. And I would encourage you to go to the website, check things out, get Greg's book if you would like to. A lot of great information in there. There's some things in there that I don't know that I'm completely bought into that they are in regards to, for example, how old the Earth is and is the Earth actually warming and so on. But bottom line, we're all on the same page with what to do with energy and how to communicate.
SPEAKER 08 :
The resources that are on the earth right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. How to combat some of the knuckleheads that are out there that think we should just shut all this stuff off.
SPEAKER 08 :
Before you run on, quick question. I mean, seriously now. Hypothetically, what if tomorrow America took all the green energy and burned it to the ground?
SPEAKER 04 :
We'd be ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And I mean, windmills. I'm fine with solar for residential use. I'm talking for mass use of solar.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the big solar farms are a joke.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Solar farms, windmills, which I hate, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Me too. They're ugly. I destroy them all. They're so unsightly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And the worst thing of all, ethanol, okay, to me, which is the worst thing created since Adam fell.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. If we were to get rid of those three things and replace them all with oil, gas, coal, and nuclear, what would happen to America's economy?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it would most likely improve, although I will tell you that in some cases, for example, on ethanol, ethanol gets a bad rap for what we actually get out of it, and it shouldn't be sold as an alternative. Is it a nice source of additive to – and some car guys are going to yell at me for saying this, but is it a nice form of additive to raise octane and do some things on the – Fuel formulation, absolutely. But for what we get out of it versus what it takes to produce, it's a waste.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's the big problem, John, with what you have to put into making it. I mean, I got news for people. With your oil and your coal and your nuclear and these things, you don't have to plant these things. You don't have to grow. You don't have to weed, water, plant, grow, harvest, smash, and break them down into your fuel. No. Okay. You don't have to grow your fuel. No. Okay. When you have to go through all those steps to have to grow your fuel, that is the most wasteful process. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's unbelievable. For all the greenies that are out there that, you know, talk about loving the earth and the water and on and on we go, you should be 100% against ethanol.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. And by the way, the amount of water you have to use for solar is crazy. John, for regulating it. John. I believe that if we made that switch, our economy would absolutely boom. Do you have any idea how much we are holding back our economy with all the money and resources and land that we are putting into sustaining these idiotic systems?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. It's flat-out ridiculous.
SPEAKER 08 :
Unleash all that with real energy.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's no proving that we're wrong in the things that we just said in the amount of time, space. I've said it for years. The oil and energy that it even takes to build solar panels and windmills and so on, you are not net ahead. And this whole—I didn't get into this with Dr. Bruce because it doesn't matter, but I will now. There is no such thing as carbon neutral, folks. That is a fallacy. That is something that the left throws around as a saying, and it is impossible to be carbon neutral. There is absolutely no such thing. It's the biggest lie imposed upon mankind ever.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, I once saw it put out, and I didn't see all the facts behind this, but I believe it's probably true, that you could cover Wyoming, top to bottom, two-thirds of the state. with windmills, and you would generate the same amount of energy as one natural gas well that takes about a couple acres. I wouldn't doubt that at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dan in Blackhawk, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
A couple things. I know you grew up in Colorado, right, John?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so remember our brown cloud in the 80s, how bad it was?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes, very much so. And really quick, for all of those that would be a naysayer against Dan, what you're going to say next, let me remind everybody it was half the population then as it is now as well. Let's not forget that, Dan.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so the point I'm making is the cars are more efficient. They're more— They don't produce as much emissions as the cars were back in the 80s.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not even close.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So the people that say that it's bad, it's like the technology on automobiles keeps improving every year. And so I don't say we'd get to zero emissions, but the emissions are going to be less and less as technology advances. And so our brown cloud, I know we do have some bad data. It was in the 80s. You know, I remember you couldn't even see the buildings in downtown Denver some days. It was so bad.
SPEAKER 04 :
I remember as a kid, you know, being up in the West End, you know, Groton Boulder, and looking towards Denver and seeing the brown cloud at that point in time, Dan. It was very, very clear, by the way, that that was there. And until the wind came along and we had some sort of an event to blow that east to Kansas, it was just there, as you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I grew up in the Columbine area down south, and it was the same way. You couldn't see it. So there's that. And then also on the ethanol, the cars don't run as efficient, so you end up burning more fuel. So what's the point?
SPEAKER 04 :
The only reason why, and this is just to make sure everybody's clear, again, as conservatives, I want to make sure we have our facts straight so when you're talking to somebody else, we know what we're talking about. Ethanol does burn cleaner. Its emissions are even way lower because it's alcohol. You're burning alcohol. It's People don't realize this, but the only reason why ethanol, even if you get it in its largest form, E85, for example, the only reason why it's 15% gasoline is so you don't drink it. It's just grain alcohol. It's all it is at the end of the day. You could literally drink ethanol in its purest form because it's essentially booze. It's 100 proof plus booze coming out. That's all it is. And so they add the gas into it to make it E85 just so people don't drink it. But when it comes to... The cleanliness of the fuel and how well it works and so on. There's a lot of people that hate ethanol, and I get that because even the old guys with the carburetors and so on, ethanol alcohol is hard on fuel systems and seals and things like that. So that's why it was really tough on the older cars. We've gotten way past that. All that's gone. New cars can run it no problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
I hate everything it takes to make it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's the biggest issue, Dan, is it's just not efficient to make. But I want to make sure that we're clear. When you talk about ethanol, it's not a bad fuel in and of itself. It's what it takes to get it that's bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's how much production. Like, doesn't it cost more to make than what you get out of it? Typically, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
If we weren't subsidizing it as taxpayers, it wouldn't exist. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's simple. And that's stupid. Just like the windmills... The solar farms, that's all being subsidized by the government, which that needs to go away. It needs to go away. We shouldn't be subsidizing something just to feel good about ourselves. Look what we're doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And even AI, really quick, I typed in, would ethanol exist without subsidies? And this is the AI answer. This is the AI answer, okay? Not anybody's opinion. This is just what AI gathers from around the Internet. It is highly unlikely that the current scale of ethanol production, particularly corn-based ethanol in the United States, would exist without subsidies and mandates. So there you go.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and by the way, you'll hear people say, well, oil companies get subsidies too. It's different. No, it's way different. They're not just getting massive checks given to them for doing this, and they don't have people getting massive checks to buy their product like we do with EVs. No, folks, oil companies are writing off their operating costs up front. They're allowed to do that because they're— Yeah, there are massive costs up front for launching these wells and so forth. But after that, guess what? The oil companies are the ones paying huge taxes that pay for everything else. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
And before anybody comes back and says, well, there's other forms of ethanol. There's the cellulose style where they can use – algae and different plant-based things and so on, you know, way different than what we're doing with corn. And I've had some experience with some of those companies when I had my stores back in the day, Dan. There were some guys that were in that space, you know, really on the cutting edge trying to make all of that work. And reality, Dan, is they don't exist today because while that sounds all great and glorious and wonderful, it just doesn't work.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I remember back in the 80s, I don't remember. know what the show was, but there was a guy in England with methane to run his cars.
SPEAKER 04 :
Methane's a whole different world. That's more like natural gas versus ethanol. And you could do that. We have a lot of methane that comes out of our gas wells. Of course, it comes out of areas where we have had old landfills that are decaying and so on. Methane is very abundant as well. That's just a whole different platform when it comes to the vehicle running it.
SPEAKER 10 :
And how about hydrogen?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's another one where, you know, I know we're kind of off the vehicle end, but this is okay. This is a great topic because hydrogen is another one that's really hard, and I know there's a lot of folks out there that would love to see it work. The problem is the refueling, the infrastructure for it, the way the car itself has to be built, and so on. The reality, Dan, is it's still cheaper to put gasoline in the car and run it off of an ICE engine or a diesel engine than it is to do anything else at the end of the day, and this is where the hybrid technology comes in. It's not close. Yes, and they're not even close. This is where the hybrid technology has really come a long ways because now you can take an electric motor and a battery and the hybrid that's actually charging that battery. You're not plugging in. You're using the gas engine to actually do some charging, and you get regenerative braking and so on. That's why the hybrids have taken off so well because it's sort of that— combo of a plug-in ev versus a gas engine you've got both now working in unison if you would and that's why hybrids have come along so well and and i'll just be straight up honest as a car guy they work extremely well you can't knock them yeah i agree did i lose you no and one last thing somebody's going to say why aren't we just running cars off natural gas because once again the infrastructure how should i say this I watch people. Why should we? Well, really quick. I watch people pump gas at the pump. If they had to go fill up a tank with natural gas, game over. They're not smart enough to do that. It is a whole other level of what you need to do when it comes to filling up a natural gas tank versus a gas tank. Not even close to one and the same.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, but John, also, why should we have to? We have a great product. It is called gasoline. It works incredibly well. Gasoline is one of the most incredible inventions ever. In history.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is, but the only reason why you would want to is, again, on the car side, your longevity of said engine and the components of and so on increases using natural gas, for example. It's why a lot of the larger trash companies and buses and so on, they all run a mixture of natural gas along with the diesel, and they get a lot better lifespan out of their drivetrain, if you would, because of doing so, because of how much cleaner natural gas is versus a petroleum-based fuel, diesel or gas.
SPEAKER 10 :
The thing is the technology, I mean, if we keep developing the technology, and that's the thing, let it happen naturally. Correct. Thank you. And we're going to get the best, I don't want to say alternative fuel, but we're going to come up with the best way for us to supply energy to our country. The government being involved with subsidies is only hindering what can be done with the technology. I mean, we have two schools here in Denver. One's called the Colorado School of Mines, the other one is CU Boulder, and they have phenomenal engineering departments. Let those students learn and build on the knowledge we have, and we're going to end up with a better energy source or energy production than we have in the past. I don't know why these green earthers or whatever don't understand that process.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because they've been, really quick, Dan, and I know Andy can chime in on this, because the answer is they have been brainwashed for so long to not understand some of the basic things that even we just went over in the last five minutes on this program. They have no basic understanding of the things that we just talked about.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, it all comes back to this, John. They believe man is a virus on the planet.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
And therefore, anything that is best for man, that brings greatest lifestyle for man, is thereby evil and must be stopped. And therefore, you've got to look for any kind of problem that comes from it, like smog, for instance. And rather than using, like Dan is saying, these geniuses at these schools... to help lower that and lower that and make it better. Instead, you need to use it as the excuse to get rid of what benefits man.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then direct us toward idiotic things like solar panels.
SPEAKER 04 :
Somebody just texted and said, where's all the protesters out at the windmills protesting the birds and the eagles? They don't care. Where are they at protesting those because of the damage they're doing to wildlife? Yeah, to Andy's point, they don't care. They claim to, but they don't care.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, all those people, they know what those... It's not like they have no idea and they live in ignorance. They know they're killing birds left and right and wrecking flight patterns. Absolutely. Definitely.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're cutting in and out of me.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
And we are back, myself and Andy and John and Cheyenne. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 11 :
Excuse me. A couple of things. On the natural gas vehicles, back when I was working for Brooklyn Union Gas, the city of New York spent a ton of money to build a bus garage to, and we were pumping a bunch of gas, And they were going to convert all the city buses to natural gas. And in theory, it was a good idea. But the time difference to refill all those tanks and what they did was kind of smart. They put the tanks on top of the buses so they were up out of the way. But to fill up those tanks to run those buses would take seven or eight hours that you'd have to have that bus off the road to, you know. You could fast fill, but then when they cool down, you know, you'd lose some of your pressure. You know that, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, really quick here before you go on. Couldn't they just rotate them out?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, like it's really expensive when you do that. Then you got twice as many vehicles.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, but it's not twice as probably 16 hours a day. You know, and they run 24-7.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you'd literally have to double – to do that, to do that method, which – good idea, Andy. But, yeah, you'd double your fleet size, not cost it. Somebody asked a moment ago, you know, we learned years ago that the efficiency of natural gas when it came to an actual engine and the improvements of and so on was great. Why don't we have more of them? John is explaining it as we speak. It's the infrastructure side of it. And, John, and I'm not trying to be mean here, but – Filling up a vehicle with natural gas isn't for the faint of heart. It's a completely different process than putting gas in your car. And I'll just say this, John. I watch enough knuckleheads at the pump as it is. There's no way they're doing natural gas. It ain't happening.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I know that when I were at the field units, they bought the entire fleet. They said, we are a gas company. We're going to run our vehicles on natural gas. But they had to build the infrastructure, and then every night most of the service trucks would come in, and they'd hook them up and have them on a slow fill, and in the morning they would fill up. Well, if somebody forgot and they had a mechanic, that's all he did was go around and connect everything up safely because he was getting paid good money. But if somebody forgot or it didn't get filled, they had a fast fill pump. But you're right. That was a little on the scary side to watch some of these guys do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, great. Again, people are asking, why don't we do more of this even right now? It's simply a matter of the infrastructure end of things. Andy mentioned something during the break that we didn't talk about yet on air, and that is just the entire vehicle, the design of, where the tank is placed. I mean, you're talking about something that, even though gasoline is very volatile and can explode and so on, it is not near what natural gas is as far as what you have to have to transport it around on a portable basis. Way different.
SPEAKER 08 :
Put all the tanks on top, and as soon as you have a hailstorm, they all explode.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, they built the tanks pretty robustly, but even in an accident, John, as you know, yeah, could you theoretically rupture a tank and have that thing just go sky high? Yeah, you could theoretically, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
You could. If you had the spark in the right mixture, sure. But here's the other thing. My wife looked at this years ago when she was looking for a new truck, and Dodge was making dual fuel out of the factory or Ram. But it was like $14,000 more than just a regular ICE engine. And if you do the math, what's the recovery on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not. You'll never get it back. It's not. Yeah, you start doing the math on that. And that's where even for a lot of you that are listening where you look at some of the trash trucks and the bigger companies that are running around that will say, you know, powered by natural gas. Keep in mind, John, and you know what I'm going to say next. All of those companies are getting big rebates from Xcel Energy and us as taxpayers from the feds to be able to do that. Otherwise, again, honestly, it's not cost effective if they didn't have all of those rebates, including even what it takes to build the infrastructure at their own fleet shop to do so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Then they shouldn't have it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm not arguing that.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're correct. Again, subsidies. I'm looking at the wind farm. That's southeast of my house. And one of the things, unintended consequences, you know the coyote population has increased around wind farms?
SPEAKER 04 :
I did not know that, no.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know why? Dead birds? Exactly. They don't have to hunt as hard for food because they have learned that if they go under the windmills, they're going to find a bunch of dead birds almost on a daily basis.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
The other, it was last year, this one happened. If you drive 80 between Cheyenne and Laramie, right as you leave Cheyenne, there's wind farms on both sides of the interstate, north and south. And I'm driving, I drive that stretch of the road to go to work. And like twice, I'm glad I was paying attention that a coyote just shot right across the interstate. And if I wasn't paying attention, I might have hit him. I had to go into the break a little bit, not bad. But you know what I mean, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was something you had to slow down for. And some genius said, well, why didn't you just hit it? I said, because I don't have $3,000 to get my front end fixed if I did. And that's probably if you hit a coyote, it would cost you to get the damage fixed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, wait, was the coyote insured?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know, but he was carrying an acne box. The other thing, first section of the show you were talking about how bad movies have just destroyed the man. Andy, do you give James Gunn and this new DC Superman movie, The Benefit of the Doubt, that it's going to be not destroying men? Because I don't believe he destroyed the men in the Guardians movies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. No, he didn't, although it got worse as it went along. and no i don't i'll be honest i don't give him the benefit of the doubt i'm hopeful i'm hopeful i do like the previews i think it looks very entertaining um but i i really don't know i don't know where he's gonna go with it i really hope that james gunn is learning from what he's seeing in the movie industry right now go woke go broke is i mean it's no more prevalent than in the movies
SPEAKER 11 :
And here's my last question on that. If you look at the Guardians of the Galaxy, they got worse. But what happened between, I think it was the second and the third one. Isn't that when Disney fully took over Marvel?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know the timeline there. I'm not exactly sure of the timing.
SPEAKER 11 :
But I know the last one came out after Disney took over Marvel.
SPEAKER 04 :
But they fired Gunn. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So Charlie says they fired Gunn in between two and three.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. But didn't they bring him back to finish three? Didn't Dunn finish three?
SPEAKER 08 :
Charlie thinks they fired him after one, and that was it. I really don't know. I don't know. I only know this. Look, Guardians of the Galaxy, the first one was a five-star movie. It was a spectacular, spectacular movie. So funny. And by the way, both masculinity and femininity were on full display, and people were just as they are. And that went downhill as those movies went along. And now what we're seeing with Pixar is they're just killing themselves by taking masculinity completely out. You tell me, John, really quick here. If Pixar were to come out, I was asking John this earlier, I'm going to ask you now. If they were to come out and make a movie next summer that celebrates masculinity, you know, not a mean one. I'm talking in a good way, right? You know, and made something that was just not silly and feminized all over the place, but natural. How do you think it would sell?
SPEAKER 11 :
probably sell out. Because remember, and I don't know if this has changed, but it always was, the target audience for movies was 16 to 25-year-old men. Has that changed?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it has not. And, by the way, that age group is voting for Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, it's just something for people to think about.
SPEAKER 11 :
The biggest show that a masculine movie would work over the last five years is Maverick.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, right. Great point.
SPEAKER 11 :
But, And did you see, Andy, that Disney released Snow White in extra theaters and it made, like, so little money that it was unbelievable?
SPEAKER 08 :
There was no one in the theaters. It was awful.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, sometimes it's nice going to a half-empty theater, but not when they're, you know, for a crappy movie. And you had to sit through that mess, didn't you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I did. It was... You know, I didn't hate Snow White as much as some people did. I thought it was okay. But, yeah, you could see the problems with it, and it was not good. And the big problem, of course, is that its lead actress was such a repulsive person offscreen that it hurt the movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
There you go. Well, you guys have a great rest of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
We'll do it. Thank you, John, very much. I appreciate it. Up next, we have Golden Eagle Financial in an interview that Al Smith did. We'll be back right after that.
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SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
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SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
You're welcome.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
We are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. A few text messages coming in, some of you talking about how you even had family members that worked at Vestas, for example, and they were doing great guns while the subsidies were rolling along in the wind end of things, and then it failed and went under, and there's a big wind farm graveyard up in Wyoming and so on. And, yep, there it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, you can't have an industry that's propped up by tax dollars. You can't do it. Every industry needs to compete. It needs to compete for its money. Otherwise, you are just setting us up for bad times. And here's the thing. All liberal ideas need tax dollars. You know, that's not entirely true. I mean, you have liberals who have good ideas. Right. Starbucks. I mean, look at the empire there. That wasn't built with tax dollars.
SPEAKER 04 :
True.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, true. You'll have these liberals in their garage develop new computing systems. And that's great. Right. But by and large, especially when you get into energy, none of their stuff. can work unless you do it with tax dollars. And here's what really angers me about that, John, you are forcing everybody else to finance your activism. That's right.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. Good way of saying it.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, one thing you can say, you and I are activists, right? We are activists in many ways. Do we make the taxpayers, do we make everybody else pay for our activism? No, we don't. And that's the difference between us and the left. And it really angers me.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. Yeah, we don't expect anybody to pay for what we want to see done. We want the free market to do that instead, Andy. Right. Right? Yeah. That's the bottom line. Yeah. We want the free market to do its thing. And I don't need anybody, if it's a great idea... The iPhone is a great example of that. Right. That was a great idea. Nobody subsidized that. In fact, they put their own deal together to where there were some subsidies. But by the way, that was all private. Apple put a deal together with AT&T to where AT&T was a service that came on the iPhone. AT&T knew they would gain all these new subscribers that were probably on other carriers. So it was brilliant on their part to agree to go ahead and do that with Apple. So they did some subsidies to bring the phone price down some if necessary. Because you were going to automatically have AT&T service. And they probably did the math, Andy, and figured, well, we're going to get AT&T customers. They'll probably have a lifespan of X, 5, 7, 10 years, whatever the average age. Somebody stays with a carrier and blah, blah, blah. And they figured out, OK, we can make this work. And guess what, Andy? The free market worked beautifully. Because then after that, once the iPhone came out and it was such a huge success, well, then guess what? Motorola started producing one. And the Android platform came out. And Google produced. Right. And and and it was the best thing ever. And it changed our world. It changed our lives. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Competition made them drive each other.
SPEAKER 04 :
And government didn't do anything to make that happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, not at all. Competition made them drive each other to making your life and my life better. Correct. Let me give one quick example.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead. You've got a minute. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. recycle bins you see in i i live in an hoa you do not you have a good life i have a bad life okay and then we have to have we have a trash can and we have our recycled can that we have Now, I know that that's stupid, but I have to do it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why?
SPEAKER 08 :
It all goes to the same place. Exactly. But the people in our HOA, our HOA is run by Democrats. It's run by liberal wackos. Yep. Which means what? I have to pay for their activism. Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Even though, at the end of the day, it all goes to the same transfer station.
SPEAKER 08 :
Totally. And I resent this.
SPEAKER 04 :
There was an article or a video I watched the other night on, this is California, mind you, and how bad they are about all the recycling and so on. In fact, they have situations out there to where if you don't do it, you're fined. And they literally took pictures of the same trash truck. All of the same things being emptied from every bin in public areas where everybody's supposed to be separating, all going into the same trash truck, Andy, and proving our point consistently that it all goes to the same place. All right. With that, real quick, Cup Creek Heating and Air Conditioning. Up next, if you've got problems at all with your air conditioning system, give Cup Creek a call today. Find them by just going to klzradio.com.
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Thank you. I'm a rich guy.
In this thought-provoking episode, John Rush and Andy Pate explore the challenges faced by major film studios like Pixar as they navigate shifting societal norms and audience expectations. Delving into the perplexing world of cinema, they discuss Pixar's recent box office failures, speculating on whether the company's pivot away from traditional storytelling is contributing to its struggles. Throughout the episode, John and Andy present a compelling argument that audience nostalgia for traditional life depictions may drive future box office successes. They also dive into a larger cultural debate on the portrayal of masculinity in media, suggesting that modern cinema's demonization of white male characters alienates a substantial segment of its potential viewership. This unrestricted dialogue is balanced with lighter moments, including quirky facts about rubber that serve as a cultural metaphor for the layered conversation. In the second segment, Dr. Scott Faulkner is highlighted for his patient-centric approach, positioning his healthcare practice as a beacon of personalized care amidst an impersonal industry. The candid conversation culminates in a discussion of societal dynamics and the desire for authentic storytelling, leaving listeners pondering the media's role in shaping public perception.
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All right. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, of course. And before we get too far into the show today, yeah, be careful out there. There's, you know, wild storms today and so on. I got a couple of text messages and asking if we're all OK. Yeah, we're great. We're doing well.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's sunny and nice here. And yet there are areas around town where they're saying there are tornadoes dipping.
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Yep. And so people are checking on us, but we're good. So thank you for checking in on us. We appreciate that very much. But no, we are good. No problems at the moment where we're at right now. All right. Yesterday's impossible question of the day. What is the natural color of rubber? I learned this from a very, very young age because people don't realize that white wall tires. come from the natural color of white, which is underneath. The black is actually on top of the white.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I knew rubber was of a very light color. I didn't know it was white. I didn't know that the white walls were the natural color. I thought that was painted on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope. It's the opposite of what people thought back in the day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So anyways, I learned that as a young person in the auto world. So it is harvested from rubber trees, processed and shipped worldwide before processing natural rubber exists. The tree in the form of a white, milky latex.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, it actually kind of makes sense, John, because for the longest time, the sole, I mean, the bottoms of tennis shoes were all white.
SPEAKER 16 :
True. Good point. Yeah. Good point. All right. Today's impossible question. Name the mammal that has the longest gestation period. Name the mammal that has the longest gestation period.
SPEAKER 05 :
The angry mother.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that's true.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just saying.
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Because they think it lasts forever.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point, Andy. I mean, the longer, the worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just saying.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, you want to start talking before we get going today about what, Pixar?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. We got a lot to get into today. We got Donald Trump. I am going to be, by the way, making a lot of fun of Tucker Carlson and the Libertarians today. This is a beautiful day, and I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to be dancing on graves. I'm sorry. It's just the way it is. But first, I want to talk about Pixar.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I want you to jump... The movie company, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
So everybody that maybe doesn't know who that is, that's who they are.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're part of Disney, obviously. Pixar, Disney, Marvel, they all work together. And I want you to jump in on this, too, because... um, Elio, their big movie for the summer just came out and it bombed. It had the worst Pixar opening. I think of all time, certainly in the bottom two, absolutely horrible at 21 million for the weekend. And there were no other large kid movies that came out. Now how to train your dragon was out, but it was a week old. You'd think, okay, a ton of people would then go over to the next movie. They did not. Elio bombed. And, The leaders at Pixar, they were asked, and I forget which ones, okay, because they jump around, but they were asked, okay, what's wrong? What do you think? And one guy said, and I think he's the head of Pixar, he said, it's because it's so hard. People don't want to watch new content anymore. You've got to make Toy Story 27, as he put it. Really? I'm just going to give some news to Pixar here. We like original content. We love original content. Kids basically don't care about the content, although they do look forward to seeing Woody and company again. Folks. Your problem is that you have gone the wrong direction. You're not making movies about real people anymore. You're making movies about your agenda as you want to depict it. Like I said about Pixar, Pixar was about a boy, right? But it depicted an entire world where there was absolutely no masculinity present. In fact, toxic masculinity was the villain.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
People don't want to see that. When's the last time Pixar had a guy and a girl falling in love in the movie? Now it happens, but it's very rare now. It used to be all the time, right? Think about cars. A guy and a girl car. They fell in love in the movie. It was really cute. They were flirting. And when's the last time Pixar had a white man as the hero in a movie? Why would they do that, Andy? We're the enemy. Right. We're the enemy. Right. Am I right? absolutely that's the problem right and so what you have and and by the way in elio the only good white man was a guy who was crazy but he was a good white man okay crazy good white man yeah yeah a good white man and so they depicted this world of the military and of nasa and all this with virtually no white men okay it was all people of color and women and so forth now am i against people of color and women and so forth no that's not the point the point is they're against white men And they are against masculinity. And let me tell you something, John, and I want you to comment on this. Pixar, if they were to come out next year with a movie that celebrated masculinity. And had both white and black men, Hispanic, whatever, in the leads. That's fine, okay? But it celebrated masculinity. It was rough and tough. It had guys having to go through, you know, fight their way through whatever kind of thing. You know, like the car in Cars having to fight his way through the race toward the end, right? And having to fight their way, maybe working out, having to fight their way in battle, having to fight their way doing... Do you think... And they also got to make a good movie. Of course, it's funny, fresh, good music. Do you think that would sell? Yes. How big?
SPEAKER 16 :
Big. Huge. Because people would flock to that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. They would go to it. It would be just like Top Gun Maverick. Right. It'd be the same thing, John, because you know what? People want to see... They want to see guys be guys. They want to see girls be girls. They want to see guys and girls falling in love again. And having even if it's younger ones on, you know, in a Pixar movie and they're flirting like, you know, like Buzz and that one girl did. But look at look at the by Toy Story 3. They had Woody turn over his role to a girl. OK, by Cars 3, they had him turn over his role to a girl car. OK, by almost everything, almost everything they do. But look earlier at their movies earlier. Every single one, even going back to ants and toy story. Oh, not ants. I'm sorry. That was a different one. But a bug's life. They had guys and girl bugs, you know, all you love. They had everybody. You had the two genders in love with each other. They had a natural world. And here's what I'm saying. I believe people now when they go to Pixar. or they go to Disney, or when they go to Marvel, they are seeing two things. First of all, they're seeing an unnatural world that's been imposed on them night and day by the media, academia, entertainment, and big tech, and they're sick of it. They're saying, yes, you've made a lot more of our kids gay and trans, but that doesn't mean we're happy about it. We're not comfortable with this. It's an unnatural world that's not fun to watch. We want to watch guys be guys. We want to watch girls be girls, and we want to watch them falling in love again.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And the other thing they see is you guys are taking white male characters and scrubbing them out of role after role. Look what they've done in Marvel. Unbelievable. Or men characters. Look at Black Panther. Of course, they got to make him a girl.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, look at this. I think people are tired of it. I think if they were to reverse course, and I'm not saying go all conservative conservative, and I want to turn it over to you. I want to hear what you think on this. But if they were to reverse course and just go natural, normal, I believe people would go in and they wouldn't feel like they were being transported into an unreal world all the time.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I talked about this some yesterday, Andy, towards the end of the program. Didn't get a lot of time on it, but Charlie had sent me an article last week. I wanted to talk about it, so I did yesterday, and it's out of – D-E-S-E-R-E-T. Deseret.com, whatever that website. Oh, Deseret News. Deseret, never heard of them. Oh, got it. Okay. Did not know that. Anyways, okay. Sorry. I'm not that familiar with that particular... Anyway, what did they say? Silent number of American men... keyword are struggling and I talked this talked about this yesterday how about 36 percent or so in this particular report struggling to understand their place in the community or a broader society well yeah part of that Andy is because of everything you just said about that movie when you've got literally the entire world quote-unquote beating you up telling you that you really don't matter you really don't have a place you know you're you're not worthy let's just say that's what they're right essentially that's what they're saying you're not worthy they're saying you're the problem in a
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
So it's no doubt that there's 36 percent. And by the way, I think that number is low depending upon what community you might be in. Now, I went into some things yesterday to, you know, help hopefully help some men with that particular problem and how you can overcome that and so on. Now, I will also say this, that, you know, watching movies like the one Andy watched on Friday isn't going to help your self-esteem.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
It actually makes it worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. The enemy was toxic masculinity. That was the enemy. You have to strip that off and nurture to become worthwhile. By the way, John, really quick here. Do you ever have a hard time sleeping?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, it depends. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, my brain is always going to gazillion miles an hour.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's my problem. My brain won't shut up. Last few nights I've had a hard time sleeping. So I've been kind of binge watching shows on HBO, whatever. And nowadays they come with ads. And so as a result, I'm seeing ads. I've also been watching Fox News with everything, and they've had ads in the break. And so casually, just once again, because I hadn't done this for a couple of years, I was just kind of watching to see who are the bad and dumb characters in the ads, who are the smart and good characters. Got it. And overwhelmingly... You never had a white man be the smart or good character in an ad that had anybody else as the bad or dumb character. Ever. Ever. Nope. Okay? It always had to go the other direction. So if a white man was a good or smart character, it was because everybody else was good and smart, too. Otherwise, it was white man, bad or dumb. And other people had to be the good or smart ones to guide the bad or dumb white man through it. And, John, it was every single ad I saw. John, I saw dozens of ads. Think about this. So along with the movies and along with what is shoved in our kids' heads in schools, they're being bathed with this in between every show they see.
SPEAKER 16 :
Including the shows themselves in a lot of cases. Right. I mean, sitcoms, things along those lines as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's not just movies. It's a sitcom. That's why I don't watch sitcoms, because of what you're talking about. Right. For years, I didn't. I mean, as much as they were funny and you kind of enjoyed them, you know, married with children and so on, you know, Bundy was a blundering idiot who, by the way, very few men probably really acted like.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. But the interesting thing about married with children is that picked on both sexes.
SPEAKER 16 :
It did, but I don't like the way that it makes him look like a complete dodo head at the end of the day. And so many of them for so many years, Andy, have been that way to where they've literally just ingrained into society that, you know, men in general.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's the all-in-the-family syndrome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. This really began, I mean, it became big with all-in-the-family. That was the show that really put it over the top. And also you saw it in MASH and a number of other shows that absolutely made white men the Antichrist.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and really even started a little bit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or stupid or bad or whatever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Kind of started even with, and people would probably argue with me on this because it was still black and white, but even the Dick Van Dyke show where he comes in and he trips over the landing and acts like, and I get it, it was just stick and so on. But some of that even, Andy, started in Hollywood all the way back then.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was gestating back then. And you know what this all came from? I've talked about this before. Industrial Revolution. It was the first time in human history where men were taken completely out of the 50-50 relationship of raising kids. And they were put in boxes called factories for 14-hour days. That left one gender for several generations to raise children. all of generations in America, America became completely feminized during that time. And now we've gotten to the point where you absolutely have to have that bias in every kind of presentation that you have. Otherwise you're seen as biased.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're right. You're right.
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Anyway, getting back to, I'll close with Pixar. Pixar has gone off into such an extreme with that. They have to have gay characters, trans characters. They never have boys and girls falling in love again, love anymore, or hardly ever, hardly ever. It's very, very rare. Or when it happens, it's a minor character. It is incredibly rare. People go to these movies now and they see a world that doesn't exist. It's not a real world because I got news for you. Even in this crazy world where we have now turned our youngest generations into a far larger percentage of gay and trans than ever before. Okay. Even in that world, John, if you walk out the doors today, 95% of the people out there are men and women who want to get together. Okay. Men who want to impress women with their prowess in business and, you know, working out at the gym, whatever, they want to win and woo the girl. You don't see that anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
I want to go one step further what you just said. Even if it were the norm. The people that still would want to go to the movies don't want to see that. They want to see the traditional end of things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes! You know why, John? And let me ask you this. I believe it's because Americans are looking at the movie theaters and saying, you know, when it comes to me putting down my hard-earned cash, not just for the ticket but all the food and everything. Yes, you've made my world this way, but I don't like the world that you've made for me. And this, by the way, cuts across party lines. I don't think even Democrats all really like the world that we've built today. I think too many Americans now, you know, outside of the hard left, they like those things. I get that. But outside of the hard left, I think the majority of Americans... Look at Hollywood and say, you know what? We really don't like the world that you forced us into through media, academia, entertainment and big tech. We live in it, but we don't like it. And we don't like being reminded of it and shoved back into it in every movie we go to. And if you make another Top Gun Maverick, we're going to go. we're going to go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I think to your point, it was proven today, even though some of the knuckleheads in the House are exactly that, the vote to impeach or start the resolution in regards to Donald Trump and the impeachment side of it, it got handily shut down 344 to 79. So even some of those, Andy, that are on that side of the aisle even look at this and say, you know what, no, we just got out of a potential situation that could have gone really, really bad had we not had a leader willing to do what was necessary to take care of that. Right. Donald Trump – Because, by the way, the last regime wouldn't have handled it that way. No. And I can guarantee you Kamala Harris wouldn't have handled it that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Donald Trump just – what he did – and by the way, he's going to be very popular very quickly right now. You have to understand. He's about to become very popular for this.
SPEAKER 16 :
I said that yesterday, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what he did? He showed all the idiot libertarians out there – and by the way, I agree with libertarians on most issues. You know this. I'm a republican. Right. But he showed them, guys, you must have force now and then because there are bad people who only respond to it. And he made a difference. Most Americans, there's a part of them that think, you know what, that's normal, that's natural, that is the way it really happens. I've had bullies with me at work, at school, everywhere I've been. You can't just accommodate them.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, but before we move along, yes, there was a lot that went on today in regards to the ceasefire. Trump even dropped the F-bomb today, which, you know, you almost have to feel for him because he's like, okay, you bozos. Literally, this is what he's trying to say. What are you knuckleheads? doing we had everything all dialed in last night and and you know really he literally said you guys act like you don't know what the f you're doing and the reality is he's correct they don't know what they're doing and it's just stupid now i will say this after saying that it's all quiet on the home front yeah and you know what john i actually believe that israel did him a huge favor
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And here's why. OK, because, yeah, I disagree with Israel launching that many bombs. Now, even Trump, when he announced the ceasefire, said it's going to be winding down there. They've still got people out on runs and it's going to be a few hours, but they're coming back after that. We've got a ceasefire that's going to be starting. And it was in that time that both sides launched missiles. But Israel launched a lot of missiles and they took out a lot of people and they took out a lot of key targets. They wanted to make sure they finished the job in that time and they did. But this was actually great for Donald Trump. Why? Because Trump is going to be negotiating with a lot of these Middle Eastern countries. And it looks really good for him to be able to call out Israel. and to get mad at Israel in a public forum because he's going to be doing more Abraham Accords. He's going to be doing trade deals. He's going to be doing a lot of things with these countries in the Middle East. They did him a favor by being the bad guy and letting him publicly call them out like that. I thought it was so beautiful I almost wondered if it was preplanned. I don't think it was.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, as angry as he was, no, I don't think so either.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I don't think it was, but I'm just saying that it was so good, it might as well have been. I think it's very beneficial.
SPEAKER 16 :
Use it to our advantage.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. I think it's awesome.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I agree with that. I can't disagree with that at all. And I did say this yesterday. I was sort of via text message and even some folks that called in chided a little bit when I said that by the time 4th of July— is over so independence day which is next friday so a week from this friday and i i went a little far out but i basically said you know by the time independence day is over this is all in the rearview mirror oh yeah you were talking about the news cycle yeah and your guest was thinking was was thinking about well the issue between the two nations like you thought that would blow over immediately no i mean that that that'll take time no but as far as the day-to-day stuff that most people get concerned about oh yeah all done and over in fact pretty probably will be done and over with by this weekend yep but for sure by the time we get to fourth of july you'll get into the independence day weekend people will take thursday off it'll be a long four-day weekend and the reality is this is all in the rearview mirror by then trust me on that john he just brokered a ceasefire between two old enemies
SPEAKER 05 :
And he did it by using force that people like Tucker Carlson said he couldn't do. You know, let's keep in mind now, Tucker Carlson and company, okay, his supporters and the libertarians and the Rand Pauls, these people who are so brilliant and they win every debate and they're so dead on. You know what? They're wrong about everything, John. They insist that this is going to be World War III. This is going to be mission creep. This is going to be escalation, escalation. We were going to get drawn in. And Trump and his people said no. It's not going to happen. And they were completely right. I mean, not only does he look really good in the aftermath, how do they look?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I was going to mention this. I'm glad you brought this up today because, well, you know what? We're at a break. This is perfect timing. Let's get caught up on breaks when we come back. I've got some things that I want to add along those lines when we come back that I think you will feel very well. You'll want to chime in on as well. And I want you all to listen because what I'm going to talk about is there were some comments made yesterday that basically Donald Trump is reneging or is deceiving those core MAGA supporters that got him elected in the first place. I want to comment on that as soon as we come back. Veteran Windows and Doors is up next, 35% off, up to three windows or more, 40% for four or more. Call Dave today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And there's been lots of, you know, comments. I've had phone calls. I've had text messages. I've seen things online and so on. Even, you know, Dodo has. I'm sorry, I've got to call her what she is. You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, Dodo Head. I'm sorry, Dodo Head. You know, some of these people that are basically out for Trump's blood because they think for, you know, they think some odd way, you know, somehow he's deceived, you know, the core part of the MAGA party or the MAGA movement and this, that and the other. And I'll just tell you guys straight up. Number one, he's not doing that. Number two, it's already proven today that he didn't do that. Number two. That proves to me that Marjorie Taylor Greene and a lot of other people like her aren't following a movement per se as much as they're following an individual, and you should never, ever, ever follow an individual. You should follow everything that's going on behind said individual. So those of you that are disappointed in what's happened with Iran and Israel and the war and what Donald Trump did in basically annihilating Israel, uh... their particular enrichment sites and so on if you're one of those that is against all of that your you're not out to set straight up your your in my opinion you're not a true blue maggot conservative that wants to move the country forward you're following a faction of and a belief in Donald Trump about things that, frankly, you shouldn't believe in in the first place, and you're putting far too much stake in a person versus an actual movement. Am I right in saying it that way, Andy?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're absolutely right. Shame on you, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And, you know, a lot of what has happened is MAGA has been rather co-opted by a faction of peacenik hippies. And what this comes from is the fact that Donald Trump is he leans pacifist. OK, he doesn't want any unnecessary wars like me. Donald Trump was not for not in favor of the Iraq war. OK, like me, Donald Trump did not believe that we should be sending all this money and supporting Ukraine. OK, like me, Donald Trump holds some of those views, but also like me. You see, I happen to like him a lot. That's why I'm saying like me, because I got news for you. I take it kind of personally when they attack him, because I happen to hold pretty much all of Donald Trump's foreign policy views.
SPEAKER 16 :
I like the fact that he wants to keep us out of war, not get us into war. And there are those out there that I know are on the mega movement, libertarians, whatever you want to call them. I think it kind of varies across the board. But there's those out there that would say that we should have never done anything like we did with the B-2s, dropping the bombs that we did, annihilating those sites. All we did was create World War III, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. None of which is true, and I've said that all along, that that's not what would happen out of this. I didn't lose an ounce of sleep over any of that and still haven't. And, you know, all of this talk of, you know, the sleeper cells and this and that and on and on we go. I mean, folks, I'm just going to tell you straight up. We have big problems in the United States of America when it comes to crime and things along those lines that, frankly, have nothing to do with any of that. I've shared this with you guys before. I'll share it again. I shared it on the podcast that we did today for Fourth of July, which is up next week because we're going to be off for Fourth of July next week. Right. I explained this to even Bob and Neil this morning that, you know, it's well known. You guys know that I had two cousins that were murdered up in the Thornton area. To this day, they still don't know what happened or they don't know who did it. There's no suspects, nothing along those lines. They were both shot in the head and then they burned the house to the ground to try to cover the tracks and nobody knows who it is. Now, do I think that was done by an Iranian, you know, sleeper cell, Andy? No. No, it was not. So my point is for a lot of you that are worried about, you know, the Iranians and for this and for that and so on, you have other problems out there that you still got to keep your head on a swivel about that have nothing to do with foreign nations.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. Look, there are, thanks to Joe Biden, there are Iranian sleeper cells out there. But here's the thing. If you're so worried about what they'll do now, don't you think that they were going to do something eventually anyway? That's why they're here. That's why they're called the sleeper cells.
SPEAKER 16 :
Regardless, it's going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's going to happen, and hopefully... Homeland Security is hunting them down. By the way, they just busted a few of them. I don't know if you saw that.
SPEAKER 16 :
And my point is, should we worry about any of this? Worry is not the right word. Should we always be on alert and be paying attention to what's going on around us? We talk about that on Ready Radio on Fridays consistently from 2 to 3. If you want to listen in on preparedness and what to do and how to handle all of that, I encourage you to listen to my program from 2 to 3 on Fridays. We get into all of the details of that. All the way down to the nitty-gritty of if you're walking out of the store to the car. I mean, we walk you through the whole process on Fridays from 2 to 3. But the point being, Andy, is nothing's changed in that end of things from last week to today, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. You know what the big problem is, John, with these Tucker types? Serious. The peacenik hippies, as I call them. They believe that those people, the Iranians and so forth, they only become bad if we provoke them.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, Andy, they're bad anyways.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, but that's what they believe. And they're going to become really bad because we provoke them. Once again, Tucker agreed with his guest who said that Europe has only been overrun by Muslims because of America interference in the Middle East driving them there. I mean, this kind of lunacy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Utter nonsense.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And so these people are insisting that World War III was going to happen. We could have averted it. Had we just not helped Israel. And by the way, I was debating with some of them online in the last two days. And inevitably, these libertarians, what they start to spewing hate against Jews. Right. Israel.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm telling you what, a lot of libertarians, a lot.
SPEAKER 16 :
And for all of you listening, you'll see things posted about how the Jews control the banking system, and they do this, and they do that. And they oppress the Palestinians. You can go down the line, and it's just absolute, utter nonsense. And the majority of that, by the way, folks, is very conspiratorial. A lot of it— The majority of it. I'm not sure any of it, by the way, could even be proven with a little sliver of hope. These guys are pulling things out of thin air, trying to prove that X, Y, Z happened. It's sort of, and keep this in mind, folks, it's like flat earthers. They come up with all sorts of evidence to prove that the Earth is flat. The Earth is not flat. The Earth is definitely round. We've proven that over and over and over again. In fact, it was proven long before we went into space to see that it was actually round. Mathematically, it was proven it was round some centuries ago. So the reality is a millennial ago, actually, Andy, and beyond. Have you ever heard of Magellan? Well, and even a lot of the writers for Scripture, this is where flat earthers are all screwed up as well, they'll take Scripture verses completely out of context and make it sound like Scripture talks about a flat earth. Scripture never anywhere in its entirety talks about the earth being flat. People believe that the earth was round all the way back in biblical times. So the reality is this. Can flat earthers go out there and find a few things that might make it look like the earth is flat and then grab onto that and ride that off into the sunset? Sure. And you could do that about a lot of topics. The reality is that doesn't make it true.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, this idea that evil only becomes really dangerous if you provoke it, is that MAGA?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, and one last thing. What is that doing in MAGA? One last thing about Tucker Carlson, which I know I said last week, but I want to emphasize this today because, and I hadn't talked about this, but I might as well talk about it now. Number one, Tucker lost me in his belief of aliens. That, for me, it's like, okay, you're a total nut job. Everything you said, even up to this point, even though you've got a lot of great nuggets and a blind squirrel can find a nut periodically, I get that, Tucker, but I'm not listening to another word you say moving forward because when you go down that path, you're an absolute udder Nut job. So get that out of the way to begin with. Here's one more thing I want to say about Tucker and people like him, Candace Owens and the others. You know, everybody gets mad at the Fox News of the world when they let a Tucker Carlson go like they did. But you know what? Here's how things work inside of business. And I know this because I'm an owner and I have been for the majority of my adult life. Actually, all but one year of my adult life because I started when I was 22. So, well, I guess you could say I was 18. Well, you only recently became an adult.
SPEAKER 05 :
But go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. Here's what a lot of even conservatives don't understand at times. Were we there? Did we know every single thing going on behind the scenes between management at Fox and Tucker Carlson? The answer is no. And in hindsight, who was the wiser on all of this? Fox News or Tucker Carlson?
SPEAKER 05 :
Fox News. And by the way, you remember at the time I defended Tucker. Right. And not so much because defending good Tucker against evil Fox. It wasn't that. It's just that I said, look, this is going to cost them a lot of viewership. And it did, by the way, over the next year. For a little while. Their viewership dropped dramatically across the board.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's come back now, so they're fine.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it came back. It just took quite a while. So did they lose a lot of money in the interim? Yes, they did. But their viewership came back, especially because of Trump's re-ascendancy.
SPEAKER 16 :
And currently right now, if you take a lot of those folks that may have even been his fans, like me, and you look at a lot of the things that he has done, some of the knucklehead moves that he has made, I wouldn't be watching him on Fox News right now if you paid me.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't be watching his show. And here's the thing, John. What you said was so true. Here's what I believe now was going on behind the scenes. Fox saw the rising of a lunatic.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. And they saw... Yep. We've got to distance ourselves from this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, it's not just that he says, you know, there are space aliens, okay? It's that he fixates on it. I know. And it's just like, you know, Tucker, let's even grant there are space aliens. I disagree, but let's grant it, okay? They're not doing anything. They're literally having no impact on anyone's life.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's because they don't exist, but whatever.
SPEAKER 05 :
Obviously. But do you see my point here?
SPEAKER 16 :
I get it, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I understand.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're giving me the what if, and even if they did, they're not doing anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
Space aliens, if they exist, are the most unbelievably casual entities in the universe because they literally have – they've come all this way. They have come millions of miles.
SPEAKER 16 :
To do nothing.
SPEAKER 05 :
With whatever technology they have. to come all the way to Earth to do nothing. And we are supposed to fixate on them like Tucker Carlson. But beyond that, he was having on these rabid, ultra-pacifist, as I call them, peacenik hippies, like General McGregor, lunatic hippies.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I want to add one more thing to what you just said a moment ago, too, about the whole alien thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
And this is my disappointment with Tucker.
SPEAKER 05 :
But X-Files is a great show.
SPEAKER 16 :
By the way, Tucker claims to be born-again Christian. He's seen the light. He has faith. On and on we go. He's one of those, and he makes it pretty well known that that's the case. Now, here's the struggle that I have with anyone that is of faith that believes in aliens, because this is my view, and I could be way out there, although bear with me here for a moment. I do believe that when, and Scripture is clear about a rapture, when is that going to take place? I have no idea. Are we closer today than we were yesterday? Absolutely, because every day that goes by, we get closer. When is it happening? I don't have the foggiest idea, Andy, nor will I ever claim to know when that day will be. But here's what I do think. When that day does come, it will be the excuse of the quote-unquote aliens that took all of these people away, not the second coming of Christ, because that's the way the world will diffuse from the second coming. That's my view. That's possible. Meaning that if you're a Christian buying into the whole alien movement thing, you're buying into the world, is my point.
SPEAKER 05 :
John, when I go up in the rapture, will I meet E.T.? ?
SPEAKER 16 :
E.T. phone home.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is he going to be up there?
SPEAKER 16 :
Do all the dogs go to heaven? I mean, again, we laugh at some of this, but folks, I'm being serious. If you look at what they're doing with the whole alien movement thing and how they're trying to push that, and the reality is I believe that is not of the Christian movement, nor should it be of the Christian movement. Now, we had a guest one time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Were you with me, Andy, when I interviewed the one guy? Let me interrupt.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've got to say one good thing about the alien movement and all the people who believe in aliens. At least none of them are flat earthers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Are you sure about that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, there are no flat earthers who are alien believers. At least I don't think so.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don't know that I'd go that far, Andy. Once a wackadoodle, always a wackadoodle.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know that I go that far. So they come from all these round worlds out there to the flat Earth.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because we're different. The flat Earthers just believe we're different than everybody else.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe they see Earth as a great landing pad. Anyway, you were saying. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, my point is when it comes to that whole aspect of things and that movement and so on, I really feel like – and we interviewed a guy a while back, and this was his explanation. He wrote a book. I don't know whether I believe everything, but his explanation for a lot of the – The UFO, quote-unquote, sightings movement and so on is basically demonic, and that is like the Nephilim of old and so on, and it's that end of things that is doing a lot of these things, and that it really isn't aliens. It's a lot of demonic things that are happening. And, you know, I don't know that I would totally disagree with that. Don't know that I would totally buy into that either. Okay. I don't know. I don't know one way or the other. I'm kind of with Andy. At the end of the day, it's really not. And this is where I kind of go against that particular person on the demonic end of things, because Satan wants to destroy. He seeks to devour and to destroy and do everything he possibly can. And yet all of these aliens, Andy, we don't see anything from.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that doesn't make any sense either.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think one thing that fuels their fire is the simple fact that the Bible never discusses life on other planets for or against. It just doesn't mention it.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's my view. It doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's no need for it, obviously. Correct. But, you know, anyway, getting back to Tucker. I really agree with you, John. I think Fox News saw a lunatic in the making, and they had to get him out the door.
SPEAKER 16 :
They had to figure out a way to separate themselves from him at that time, and they did. And by the way, the same thing has happened with, and I said this yesterday, with the likes of the Candace Owens as well. She's gone off the total deep end. I mean, the reality is, while she at one point liked her, followed her, thought she was very solid, and I'll tell you, in the last 12, 18 months or so, she has just become an absolute loon. When did she turn on the Jews like this? I don't know, but she's a Looney Tune. All credibility gone. She used to be one of the most brilliant young conservatives I had ever heard speak. Yeah, her and Charlie Kirk could work together on almost anything and do just well, you know, do great and move ahead and so on. Those two are polar opposites. Oh, he's left her behind. Good reason to, because she's a Looney Tune. She's a knucklehead.
SPEAKER 05 :
But she was brilliant. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Something got into her. Again, and I talked about this some yesterday, when you get to a point to where your influence is so big and you have all of these followers, and I've tried to explain this as much as I can. I still don't think people really understand how these influencers make money, but it's simple, folks. All these big platforms, Facebook, so Meta, which is Facebook and Instagram. YouTube and TikTok, those are really the four major platforms that these influencers earn money on, and they earn money by people watching them, clicking, liking, sharing, forwarding.
SPEAKER 05 :
So there's value in being on the edge.
SPEAKER 16 :
and being crazy. Absolutely, because the more edgy you are, the more apt you are to have a lot more followers because you are that edgy. And in turn, Andy, your revenue stream just, I'm not saying it goes up a little bit. It is magnified. It goes up substantially because of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I guess if we did more shock jock stuff here.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I'm not that person. I won't do that. No. And that's why I'm not an – somebody asked me on Drive Radio a few weeks ago, why am I, especially in the car world, why am I not an influencer? You just said it, Andy, because I'm not going to be that guy because I'm just going to lay it out factually, and you can figure out for yourself what you think you need to do or not do, but I'm not that guy. I don't want to be that guy.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm not a shock jock. Never have been, never will be.
SPEAKER 05 :
But you know what happens with that guy way too often is that radio stations, TV stations, channels like Fox have to get rid of him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you crash and burn eventually. Because eventually, too, what happens is, and this is the difference between a shock jock like Howard Stern, where he's just a shock jock, and all these other influencers are trying to be a Howard Stern, only they're doing it with a lot of misinformation. In other words, they're not factual in a lot of the things that they're sharing. And that really kills their credibility, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me pose a question for after the break.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, we're fine. We got time. No, we're going to combine.
SPEAKER 05 :
What about somebody who was a shock jock? Because there are shock jocks who then come back to reality. And I want to give an example of Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck has become much more realistic in his outlook on politics. For a while there... He was way out there as well. He was way out there. He was one of those who said Republican Party is no better than Democrat Party. By the way, he did a lot of damage with that. A lot of damage by equating the party. Shame on you, Glenn Beck. What a horrific thing to do. But... He no longer says that he no longer is, you know, backing the all pacifist piece in a kippy type thing. He thinks Trump nailed it with his latest actions. He has really come back to the fold and become much more reasonable. And why is that? How how can somebody when they go way off come way back?
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. All right. That's a great question, and it doesn't happen very often. No. Usually there's some sort of a humbling experience, and what I will tell you happened with Glenn Beck is I do think it was humbling. He about lost it all. He had the whole Blaze Network thing going on. He poured a bunch of money and resources and everything into that. It did really well for a while, and honestly, folks, it darn near went away. He darn near lost it all, and I think for Glenn, this is my take on it. We were sitting here interviewing him. I think he would probably agree with us. That, I think, was his come-to-Jesus meeting. hey, wait a minute, I've got to start being better at what I'm doing, and I can't just be on the rant all the time, and I can't just be throwing things out there hoping it sticks to the wall, because the reality, this stuff is going to catch up to me, and I'm going to lose it all if I don't get better at this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because early on when he was doing all the chalkboard stuff, he was so brilliant and so incredible. with the way he laid out so much of what was being done by the Democrats. Then he started blaming Republicans equally with Democrats. Maybe he was trying to broaden his audience with that. I don't know.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know. I think, Andy, some of these folks, including even from Tucker Carlson to Candace Owen and so on, I think they get... The wrong information from the wrong people, they throw some things out, a few things do stick. They'll have a few videos, or in Candace's case, a few things blow up. They get all sorts of revenue off of that. Where I stopped watching Candace, for all of you listening, by the way, is when she felt like it was her personal mission to go against Macron and his, whatever she said, transgender wife, husband, whatever the thing is, the leader of France. And again, at the end of the day, I don't care who they are. How does that affect us one way or the other, Andy? Yeah, McCrone? Yeah, but she was on a mission to prove that his wife was a dude at one point in time. That was her sole mission. She's got a documentary on it. Candace does.
SPEAKER 05 :
Did Tucker tell him that this came from space?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tell her that? I don't know, Andy. The point is, who cares? You are maximizing on minutiae, and people lose interest.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and for me, again, I stopped following Tucker when he went on the alien thing. I stopped following Candace when she went on this big rant for the leader of France, which, again, at the end of the day, who cares? Right. Whether she's transgender or she could be a monkey for all I care, Andy. At the end of the day, how does that affect us? It doesn't. Literally. She could be an alien. How does it affect us? It doesn't. Thank you. Because we're smart and we'll never move to France. But she went on this big mission to try to discredit him on that. And anyways, that's when I stopped following her was because of all of that as well. So Golden Eagle Financial coming up next, folks. And again, when it comes to your financial future, get with Al. He'll help you get to your destination, financially speaking, and stay there. Don't forget, he's got his own program tomorrow between 2 and 2.30 right here on KLZ. It's Al Smith. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Something I learned, by the way, early on in this particular role, which I've been doing this now for 11 years. And, you know, when you get started, you know, I was a guy from the weekends that came to the daytime. And, yes, I was green. I had a lot to learn. I didn't know as much about politics then as – I mean, I knew enough to get started, but I didn't know it like I do today, Andy, just because – You know, I was a business owner. I was doing other things. I was running a family and a business and all sorts of other things, which I think I always, in the back of my mind, remember that about a lot of the people that are even listening to us, that they're doing the same thing. So I'm trying to bring them as much information, good, credible information as possible that they can then use to decipher what should I do. And it's why, even when back in the day, people would send me articles from Alex Jones, and even then... I was a greenie. Green being totally Andy. But even then, I knew, this guy's a nutjob. I'm not going to talk about anything he says on air. And I never have. Nor will I ever. You were a greenie? In radio, as far as Daily Show is concerned.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, green.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. I was green. New to it. Very new to that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry, you've got to keep in mind, I was raised by environmentalists. Oh, no.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Even when it comes to – when it came to even articles and stuff people would send me back in the day about Alex Jones, I mean, I knew right off the bat, and I wasn't a veteran radio person at all, but I knew at that point in time, this guy's a nut job. I'm not using anything he's – anything he's got, I'm not using on air ever because, I mean, yeah, I know a blind squirrel finds a nut, but that guy's a nut job. Right. It's been proven over and over again he's a nut job.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah, I mean – This is one reason why, as you were saying earlier, folks, we've got to align ourselves with truths and principles. Correct. Not with individuals.
SPEAKER 16 :
And correctness.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Because those individuals can derail.
SPEAKER 16 :
They will fail. Every individual will fail, folks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Everyone fails except one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you cannot. And you can follow him, but don't follow anybody else because it's them. You might follow what they do, what they say. And that includes Trump. Yeah, that includes Trump. I mean, I love the guy dearly, but is he perfect? Absolutely not. There's a lot of things he does that I probably wouldn't do. And that's fine. We can agree to disagree on certain things. That's life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, honestly, John, and I'll finish with this. While Trump has been brilliant throughout this whole affair, it has been the three guys under him, Vance Rubio and Pete Hegseth, who have been knocking it out of the park in interviews.
SPEAKER 16 :
One thing he's done different this term than last is putting much better people around him than what he had the last time. We'll close with that this first hour. Two more hours coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir.
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You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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And we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and Ben from Evergreen. Go ahead, sir. Thanks for hanging on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. You know, I heard you guys comment on federal subsidies. Yes. And I'm like, why did it take a guy with common sense – that used to run garages or car repair, to tell me that. I mean, I thought that way forever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, mechanics know everything, Ben. Good one, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
So he thinks, or so you think. Well, I think you can learn, no matter what you do, You can learn from it. I don't care what it is. You can start out, like, mowing lawn.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
And then you can learn about small engines or graphs and everything. But regardless, you know, I'm not all opposed to big government sponsoring something when it works.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like NASA. They've got a good rate of return on all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
But think about this, Ben. True, and I think they started a lot of that, and it probably would have been really hard to have done without government intervention back in the day. Getting a private company to do what NASA did probably would have been difficult. that it's rolling look at the bigger bang for the buck that we're actually getting out of paying spacex a private company to do what nasa was doing prior the last time i checked and somebody can look this up and text me back if you'd like but the last time i checked spacex is doing our you know our satellite missions and things like that that we're getting now charged for as taxpayers we're doing that for about a fifth, Ben, of what NASA was charging us as taxpayers. In other words, the bill to SpaceX is about a fifth of what it would have been if NASA was doing it.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's fine. You know, transfer all these technologies.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 15 :
When, where, and how appropriate. And with that stuff, I always want to know the basics. What's it going to cost? Who's going to pay? What's the rate of return? And, you know, when you come, say, to roads and bridges, It's probably not all that bad, you know, and just different things.
SPEAKER 13 :
Actually, and really quick, Ben, I'm sorry, I'm way off. I'm way off. I just looked it up. So NASA's Space Launch System, their SLS, is estimated to cost over $2 billion per launch. SpaceX advertises their Falcon 9 launches for $62 million. It's way less than a fifth.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, attention Kmart shoppers. Exactly. Let's get the good deals and keep them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Think of that really quick, Ben, and I agree with you. If we had them in for NASA, we wouldn't have gotten where we are today, and SpaceX wouldn't even be able to do what they're doing. So I'm not saying that that was a bad thing. But, yes, it's definitely a time to make that transition to where you could privatize it, which is exactly what we've done. And look at the dollar difference, $62 million a launch versus $2 billion a launch.
SPEAKER 06 :
But this begs the question, what else would you privatize?
SPEAKER 13 :
Me, personally?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would a lot.
SPEAKER 13 :
Everything I possibly could.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I'm just literally asking both you and Ben, what do you think we should privatize next? Where would you go next?
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I think it's case by case.
SPEAKER 06 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like the post office. They were going to privatize that, I remember, a study, whatever, 20, 30 years ago.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they tried it, and it's like, you know, they tried it with some maintenance things, and it's like, we're better off just doing our own maintenance in-house on this stuff But when and where, again, when I say case by case, you've got to have a business manager. In fact, I checked in at one point with, there was a girl named Brown, down at the Postal Annex, last name, of course. And she was interested in some automation. So they're not totally dense, totally stupid, but would it work? You know, you've got to have solutions that match the problem. And a lot of times, these regulators and congresspeople, they're like, well, our solution is really to maintain power, and we do that with money and regulation and taxes and laws. So I think I'll bet you probably 50% of what the feds do and 50% of what the state does You could probably get by without or reduction somewhere in there.
SPEAKER 13 :
This was a great, you know, what I just gave you as an exercise was a great example. For all of you listening, by the way, I just did the math, Ben, when you were talking. Elon Musk is doing that for 3% of what NASA used to do.
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3%.
SPEAKER 13 :
Not 30.
SPEAKER 1 :
3%.
SPEAKER 15 :
And as much as I like Musk and what he's done, and I've said this before in your show, I'm not a battery operated car guy. Right. I get it. I've done the energy equations on batteries. They're getting 30, 40 miles per gallon. You can do that. Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Ben, that's another one where the public has been totally misled on what an actual EV gets on a per-mile basis. And, number one, most have never done the math. They buy it because at one point in time they thought they were saving the planet by buying them, and nothing could have been farther from the truth. There's a lot of guys like myself even where, you know, the performance and that end of it far exceeds anything else you'll drive. You're definitely not, to your point, Ben, you're not saving any money at the end of the day. You can put a lot of fuel into a regular ICE engine vehicle and still be ahead at the end of the day, despite what those in government will tell you.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're paying a lot of money to lug a lot of... Heavy batteries around. Yeah, they're heavy. Made by windmills that don't work.
SPEAKER 13 :
Really quick, I was going to say this on Drive Radio this weekend, but Ben, let me share this with you. I'll do this before we get to Drive Radio. So I changed the rotate of the tires on my wife's car this last week, and she was like, man, you think I should rotate these tires? I'm like, I don't pay attention. It's her car. I don't really pay much attention to it. She's been driving the Equinox EV, the Chevy Equinox EV, which we have. And I'm like, yeah, we probably should go ahead and rotate tires. It's got like 9,000 miles or something on it. Let's go ahead and do that. And it's the first time I'd even messed with the car as far as any of that goes. So I get it in the back of my shop at home, and I get it all jacked up, and I start changing tires out. And I'm looking at the wheels and the hub mechanism and the rotors and such, and I'm like, this thing's got basically the same equipment that my 1500 Silverado has, full-size truck, in a small SUV because, Ben, of the weight factor you just mentioned.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah, I've got to talk some common sense into you and your girl about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're heavy. And again, I've known that since the beginning, the weight factor. And most people don't realize that a Tesla weighs the same as an F-150.
SPEAKER 15 :
So before we run out of time, I'm sure you brought up Trump in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, we did. We did that in the first hour, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Happily. But I come down on, you know, enough is enough. We'd been beat up by them. You know, there was the Iran hostage thing. There was Nightline. You know, nobody on the media. That's how Nightline got started, was over the Iran hostage thing. And that guy, Ted Koppel, made probably jillions off his show. Not a bad guy for mainstream media. Not all that good either. He was a little too liberal for me.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, he was liberal, but he had a very good delivery, I've got to say. He was smooth. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Leave it. We've been pussyfooting around with them. And it's like a bully in a schoolyard. At a certain point, you go, it's on. Let's go. And finally, tomorrow, are you going to have that woman Kelly?
SPEAKER 13 :
Dr. Kelly and Steve on? Yes, absolutely. Tomorrow I will have them on. Or no, sorry, that's Thursday. Thursday first hour. Thursday first hour, Ben. My bad.
SPEAKER 15 :
If I don't have a chance to call in, you tell her that this pain-in-the-butt guy, Ben... said that he was checking on some stuff about tobacco, which I was using during the pandemic. And it helped my health. And there was another guy just ran into and he's some neural, not neural, but endocrinologist, doctor, PhD, MD. And he was talking about how tobacco patches, lower inflammation, And tobacco is not – and I'm that one guy that will double-check on everything and anything until I get the answers that fit. And I think he's on to something. And if I don't get a chance to call in on Thursday – I just put it in my notes. I did.
SPEAKER 13 :
I just stuck it in my notes, Ben. I will ask for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are you saying I need to start smoking?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I already smoke. I shouldn't, but I do have a cigar.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ben, I have absolutely nothing against smoking at all. It doesn't bother me at all. I just never have.
SPEAKER 15 :
I understand. And I do it to kind of take off the edge a little bit. And I think, you know, it's like I'm not recommending anybody start. I'm not saying it's great for me. Right. But pure nicotine, it's in vegetables, it turns out. A lot of them, not all of them, like... It's not particularly addictive, but some of the tar, you know, I will say this, when I smoke a cigar, I get a nice buzz. I like that. And every now and then, I'll have a drink. And, you know, they say people that drink have lower incidences of cancer and heart disease in moderation.
SPEAKER 06 :
Are these cigars from Columbia?
SPEAKER 15 :
Colombiano, amigos. Okay, there we go. You were just saying you get a buzz. I was wondering. No, most of them are from a region in Nicaragua called Estella. And there's something about, I don't know what it is, their climate, their soils, their techniques. And it just enhances the flavor. And I actually have become a cigar snob. I used to think people would go, oh, it's got a walnut flavor with some oak. And I'd think, you idiot, what is wrong with you? And now... Now you do.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm like... Now I'm like... Now you get it. You're like Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, you get it now. That's funny.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so... But I want her to do the homework if she wants to.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'll ask. No, I will definitely ask, Ben. Absolutely. I will do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if she's listening now...
SPEAKER 13 :
She's not. She's at patients and other things, so she won't be. But I will ask, and we'll get that handled. It's not a problem.
SPEAKER 15 :
And having said that, I think she's a really bright woman, you know, and really knows her stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'd just like to see her broad horizons on tobacco. Okay. And I got another supplement, which shall remain secret until she checks this out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. I will find out, Ben. Good stuff.
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Take care, guys.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I wanted to ask you this earlier and I forgot. Sure. How are you surviving World War III?
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Are you doing all right? Yeah, I don't know. I didn't sleep much last night, Andy, thinking about it. I mean, do you have a bunker? I was struggling last night.
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Now that Trump has put us into World War III, I just want to know, are you getting along? Do you believe in any kind of a future?
SPEAKER 13 :
Unbelievable, Andy. These people. There's one thing. I have not lost an ounce, one ounce of sleep over. Not an ounce, Andy. Not announced.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, you can just see in advance. You and I, we were texting back and forth. We could just see in advance with Tucker going nuts and all of these libertarians going nuts. And once again, we get to talking to a lot of them. A surprising number hate Jews. Okay, that's a whole different thing. And a lot of Tucker's guests do not like Jews. But setting that aside, you could just tell guys, you're going to look so bad if this works out. And it's probably going to work out. He's going to take because you knew full well that Trump was just going to take out some nuke sites and make us safer and that this wasn't going to start a war. Oh, yes, it will, because then they're going to respond with what? Look, my biggest concern is because of Biden letting so many of them in that we that we've got terror cells in here in America. But you know what? They're going to do damage anyway.
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True.
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So I just wanted to ask you how you're holding up. Because I care about you, John. So far, so good. I care about you. I care about your wife, the missus.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I was worried about you. So far, so good. Yeah, I can honestly say, and I did get a lot of questions from listeners early in the show yesterday asking that very subject. Am I changing anything? Am I going to do anything different with coming and going from the station and this, that, and the other? And am I worried about the Iran sleeper cells and this, that, and the other? And I'm like, yeah, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
The only thing I would do, and I did recommend this to my wife. She works downtown. Keep your head on a swivel.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
There are going to be some who are going to be knifing people and doing some of this stuff. That's probably going to happen. Look, they're going to act out.
SPEAKER 13 :
But am I changing any of my patterns or anything I plan on doing for fun? No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. I wonder if AOC is going to go to Iran and, you know, surrender. We give up.
SPEAKER 13 :
You beat us. We have no choice but to surrender. I mean, sorry to go here, but we got to go here.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
If that were my side, I mean, I already criticized Marjorie Taylor Greene. I'll criticize as needed. And she's a knucklehead at times as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, and what's his name, the guy in the house who drives us nuts? Massey.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, Massey.
SPEAKER 06 :
What a— Just be quiet.
SPEAKER 13 :
He was acting like World War III was coming. Just go away. But go ahead. Thomas Massey, go away.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, please.
SPEAKER 13 :
I will say, even with their faults, Massey's and even Marjorie Taylor, MTG, whatever you call her, neither one hold a candle to the poster child of the Democrat Party, that being AOC. Right. Can anybody be any dumber, Andy, than she is?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, what's her name from Texas?
SPEAKER 13 :
That new one? Oh, what starts with a C?
SPEAKER 06 :
Jasmine Crockett.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, she's about as dumb. They're equally dumb.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they're equally dumb.
SPEAKER 13 :
Charlie loves her eyelashes. She has eyelashes that, you know, if she ran fast enough, she'd fly. The funny thing is, all over social media, everybody's making fun of those things. So it's like you just take them off or go small, whatever. I mean, you know, the go big, go home thing. I think she already got that mastered, Andy. But between those two. And AOC being more of a frontrunner because she's been there, I believe this is – isn't she a sixth term? Is AOC four or six terms? I can't remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know. I think it's four.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, four terms. She's way ahead of Crockett. But again, at the end of the day, AOC fighting with Donald Trump, Andy, that is – let me see if I can compare this to something. That's like me from drive radio and all the car experience and everything else that I have. That's like talking to someone that doesn't have a driver's license. Yeah, it is. Is that a good comparison? Yes, it is. Somebody's never driven in their entire life calling in and having an argument with me over something.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, John, you know, totally, I agree. You know what angers me the most about all this? We were talking about this off air a little bit. They never apologize. They never own it. You know, Tucker Carlson, where are you today? Own it. You were wrong. And you were predictably wrong. And by the way, General McGregor, that lunatic, peacenik hippie. Oh, but he was a general in the Gulf War. He's a peacenik hippie. He's an idiot. He's a lunatic. Okay? You guys and Thomas Massey and MTG and AOC and all of you, where are you today? I want apologies. No, forget apologies. I just want you to come out and say, we were wrong. Because let me tell you something, John. If I get it wrong, what do I do? I say I was wrong.
SPEAKER 13 :
We come on air all the time, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we come on air.
SPEAKER 13 :
I blew that one. I mean, I thought, really, this was because last week. Okay. I think I either told you or I told the audience. I can't remember if I told you that I thought if Donald Trump was going to do something with Iran, it would be by Friday. I didn't miss it by much. But I figured by the end of the week, by Friday, it would pretty much be done and over, or he'd wait two, three weeks to see what was going to go on. And I really hoped I was going to be wrong, to be honest with you. Now, as it's turned out, it's all worked out fine. It's perfect. There's been no issues whatsoever. Again, once again, and I said this, said this even on the podcast last week, they have a lot more information. at their fingertips and what they're digesting than Andy, you and I would ever have when it comes to these types of decisions. And so I'm relying on, in this case, the Situation Room, those advisors, the people that are around Trump and so on to advise him on, hey, this is what we've got to get done. Here's our chance. This is probably our best chance right now. Let's not delay. Blah, blah, blah. Here's how we can get it all done. I mean, all these pieces are all coming together. And believe me, Andy, there was a lot of sleepless nights, I'm sure, that went around trying to figure out exactly how does this mission play out when it's all said and done. And how do we accomplish this so that there's the least amount of collateral damage? We can end this thing. It's all done and over with. And guess what? We can go back to running the country like we need to. Right.
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And he did. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he did. And I know I pick on Tucker because he was the biggest voice who was making the biggest stir about it. He was just making a complete, I'm going to say it, ass out of himself. Agreed. And he was getting shredded by the likes of Ben Shapiro, who was spot on with this from the start. Way to go, Ben. Okay. But here's what I want to say. Tucker... Not just you, but anyone who's like you. These crazy, ultra-pacifist, peacenik hippies who are on our side as well. I want you guys to go to all your wacko generals who you have as your guests, these General McGregor types, and tell them, don't ever come on my show again. Because you were wrong. You were wrong. You were massively wrong. You were totally wrong, and Trump was right. And Trump nailed it. He knocked it out of the park. Trump just got peace where there was no peace. I know it's only a tentative peace. But folks, we're talking about two old nations that are going to fight for quite a while. But he just got a ceasefire in 12 days. Why? Because he took out the sites that needed to be taken out. And he brought Iran to their knees. And you can only do that with force. And you've got to use intelligent force. And that doesn't mean you're going to be in a long protracted next to rock.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, in fact, there's some folks now that are on the inside, and I talked about this yesterday. There's some folks that are on the inside of Iran now that are essentially coming out saying, wait a minute, this regime, it is falling. It is struggling. They may not make it. We may have a totally new country when this is all said and done. And for those of you that think we should do nothing and just let a bunch of madmen, Islamic – individuals run a country I'm sorry folks what rock did you just crawl out from under and if you call yourself a Christian and you think that's the way it should work you're an absolute fool the reality is they want somebody else to come in and run that country so they can go back to the Iran you know the Iran of the early 70s where by the way they were one of our biggest allies and it was like going to a first world country not a third world country exactly it was like it was like America exactly yeah
SPEAKER 06 :
And now it isn't.
SPEAKER 13 :
And you guys that are on that side, that are on that, you know, hardcore, you know, we're part of the mega movement that we didn't want any of this. So what you're saying is you don't want an entire country to have the same opportunity you have? Are you going to be that bold, that rude, that mean, that unchristian-like to say, I don't want them to have what we have?
SPEAKER 06 :
right is that what you're saying you see let me let me tell you something if you have any love in your heart then you will look at what donald trump is creating here in america and say my goodness this is so great i want other people to have it yeah so i'm gonna why not have more freedom and happiness and free markets in iran so marty you called yesterday you were all upset about what was going on you thought world war iii was going to happen so i want to know from you marty
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you one of those that doesn't want to see the folks of Iran have what we have in the United States? You don't want them to have the same freedoms, the same luxuries, the same ability to even express themselves, to have the same freedom to worship our God the way we do and so on. You don't want them to have that. You want them to be enslaved by Islam. Is that what you want?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, probably. Personally, I think Marty is not a fan of Israel. I don't care what he says. I'm sure he'll say otherwise, but I don't think he is. How could you not be? Because when you get into talking with these people who are like Marty... and you get to talking to them about Israel, before you know it, they start blaming Israel and Israel's aggression and what Israel's done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Israel's not perfect.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no. No one's saying they are, but comparatively speaking to their enemies, they are perfect compared to their enemies. My goodness. Correct. I mean, look, is Israel proclaiming death to Iran?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is Israel cutting heads off dissidents?
SPEAKER 13 :
Do they say death to America?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Is Israel throwing gay people off buildings? No. Is Israel bombing bus stations around the world?
SPEAKER 13 :
Is Israel doing any of these things? For that matter, folks, and I know it's not the same for all Arab countries, but especially for Iran. Look at how those people live, and then look how the Jews in Israel live. And tell me there's not a vast difference from one to the other.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Does Israel subjugate women?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are different. They're the good guys comparatively in that situation, and it's not even close. By the way, there are a couple libertarian-style hosts on other stations here in Denver. Yes, there are. And they were saying all these same things too. My question to them is... When are you going to apologize? Yeah, when are you going to apologize? One of them, he was a very popular host, and now he just does a weekend show once a week. And he was a very popular host for many years here in Denver. And he was coming on and lambasting Trump for these warrior actions and for dropping those bombs. And it was so funny. He was doing this right before the ceasefire happened. And he was talking about how this is going to take us down a bad place. And I just want to know. Notice I'm not giving his name. I'm not going to do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
When are you going to apologize?
SPEAKER 06 :
When are you going to apologize? Forget apology. When are you going to own it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Retract. Do whatever you need to do. Right. Hey, I screwed up. I was wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Trump did the right thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. He did the right thing by using force because force can be used well.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I want to make sure we're clear on this as well. I get it. Trump does make the final call, makes the phone call and so on. But let's give credit where credit is due. There's a lot of people that are in that situation room that are feeding a lot of things, a lot of facts into Donald Trump so he can make these decisions in a better fashion. So at the end of the day, did Donald Trump make this decision Yes, but not without all of the other great input that those that are around him, those advisors that he has, that they gave him to make that decision, Andy. So I want to make sure that we're very clear that while I appreciate Donald Trump, love the guy, I believe he made the right call. It's not just him that did this. It's him and his team that did this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and a big voice on his team is Marco Rubio, who everybody called this big neocon. No, he isn't. He's just very knowledgeable about foreign relations. He knows what he's doing.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Okay, Andy, let's talk a few movies here while we're at it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, yeah, because I want to look ahead. And what I want to do, because we started this show today, and I said, look, the problem with Pixar, because they were saying, oh, people don't like original programming. Everybody just wants sequels. They want us to make Toy Story 27. And I said, no. The problem is you guys have absolutely thrown out reality. In the real world, boys are boys. Girls are girls. Masculinity is not the enemy. White people are not the enemy. You don't have to show 50 shades of everything. You know what I mean? Right. You can just let people be people. Right. And I want to see all people. Okay, I'm not saying I want to see a bunch of white heterosexual men. No, no, no, no, no. Right. I want to see all people. That's right. But. They have basically been stripping out one kind of person and we're making it the villain. Great point. Right. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So you're going to ask me.
SPEAKER 06 :
I want you to look forward to some of these movies and just tell me, are you looking forward to it? Are you not? And what do you, and do you expect it to make the mistake or do you expect it to get it right? Here we go. Okay. This weekend we got upcoming is F1 with Brad Pitt. What do you think?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm going to try to go see it Thursday night if I can figure it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, cool. By the way, it's over two and a half hours. Very long movie.
SPEAKER 13 :
I heard.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, we have Megan 2 coming out this Friday.
SPEAKER 13 :
I won't watch that one, but that's for different reasons.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's a horror movie. Right. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Okay, the next week, and you're going to be gone, Jurassic World Rebirth.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I want to see that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, do you think they're going to make those mistakes? I do not.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't think so, because they never really... Well, if they do, I'll be surprised, because they never have prior.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think it's going to be a good movie. And they don't really say what the next movie is going to be that week, so I'm just going to move on. July 11th, Superman. Are they going to get it right, or are they going to go politically correct?
SPEAKER 13 :
That one will be woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
I am worried it'll be woke.
SPEAKER 13 :
That'll be woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I don't know that. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong, but I just, I'm not confident.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm leaning more that way. Let's hope that's not the case, Andy, and we're both wrong, but I would be shocked if it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm hoping we're wrong. Okay, a week later, I know what you did last summer. They're doing a remake of the original.
SPEAKER 13 :
Woke. Yeah, they'll probably woke-ify it. I hate to say that because if they're going to use the teens and go all that route and so on, I'm guessing they'll make it woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, this one, I don't know. It's a modern Western Eddington.
SPEAKER 13 :
No idea on that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but you see, they can't just make a Western anymore. They've got to woke-ify it. I'm worried that they will. And this is a movie I'm absolutely dreading, Smurfs. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
How do you woke a Smurf? They will. They'll figure it out. They will woke-ify the Smurfs. They will woke-ify the Smurfs.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, the next weekend on the 25th, and this is, word has it, they're going woke on this one. Fantastic for the first steps.
SPEAKER 13 :
It doesn't shock me.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, maybe they won't. I really don't know, but from what I'm hearing, they will.
SPEAKER 13 :
Fantastic Four is Marvel, right? Yes, it is. Yeah, chances are high.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Unfortunately. I know you and Richard talk about that a lot, but I will be surprised if that one isn't, Andy. But you'd think by now, on Marvel especially, that they would learn and start adjusting those movies, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I would think so.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, how many have been duds in the last, I don't know, four or five years?
SPEAKER 06 :
Fantastic Four, they haven't had a good one. I mean, I actually thought the first one was kind of fun.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm talking Marvel in general. How many duds have they had, Andy? No, it's... Too many, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's been bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's been bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I'm not the movie buff you are, but I'm listening to you when it comes to these enterprises.
SPEAKER 06 :
Marvel movies right now, obviously you had Deadpool and Wolverine, which was a huge hit, but that's because... They went back to the formula and just stuck with it. And even though that has lots of woke stuff in it, they at least let the two main guys be themselves and be fun.
SPEAKER 13 :
The problem is Disney owns it, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's the problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's the whole issue.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, this will be a minor horror movie that's not going to be on the big screens, but Bambi the Reckoning. That I want to see.
SPEAKER 13 :
Like the deer Bambi? Yeah. I just, I'm sorry. Bambi the reckoning.
SPEAKER 06 :
There's a part of me that that would complete my life.
SPEAKER 13 :
So the fawn is now going to tear things up? Hey, man, this time it's personal.
SPEAKER 06 :
This time it's personal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have no idea.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Okay, wait a minute. Is Bambi a he or a she, by the way?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's a he.
SPEAKER 13 :
Bambi's a he. I guess it is because it grows up and has horns, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, unless it's a stripper named Bambi.
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe it's a transgender Bambi.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Tranny Bambi. Now, that could be a new superhero, Tranny Bambi.
SPEAKER 13 :
Is Bambi going to grow up and go against the hunters in this one, the woke hunters? I have no clue. I haven't looked at it. Or Bambi's so woke he goes against the hunters?
SPEAKER 06 :
What happens? I just love the title. it's a horror movie okay uh august 1st the bad guys 2 and by the way that's a remake of a surprisingly good cartoon bad guys 2 yeah okay with the fox and so forth and the remake of no no no no the naked gun oh that's liam neeson right yeah and who knows man maybe that'll be not woke i hope it's not they never were
SPEAKER 13 :
They'll ruin it if they make it woke. Yeah, don't make it woke. Because they were so good before that it's going to be tough to top anyways. So here's the thing. Tough to top, if you go woke, you've really messed it up.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think a lot of the writing for it was done by Seth Green from Family Guy. So who knows? Maybe it'll be good. I don't know this movie, Weapons. It's a horror movie that's coming out on August 8th, but also Freakier Friday.
SPEAKER 13 :
Freakier Friday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so you know Lindsay Lohan?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I bet that that'll be woke and not very good. Okay, now let's get excited. August 15th. Are you ready? Nobody to.
SPEAKER 13 :
That shouldn't be woke. The first one wasn't. It better not be.
SPEAKER 06 :
It shouldn't be. The first movie was so good.
SPEAKER 13 :
I loved it. And that one made the, just for those of you who have never seen Nobody, the first one, it's worth watching because it takes what would be a pretty low-keyed, average, white male dad and turns him into this monstrous, you know, covert expert that can literally defeat anybody he wants to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because he has a history.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and it was really good. And he doesn't look like, you know, he's not...
SPEAKER 13 :
No. Ripped. That one's awesome. Like The Rock. Great movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And then there's several other movies. I don't know which I'll see. Americana, Witch Board, Jimmy and Stiggs. Who knows? Probably Jimmy and Stiggs. Okay. Coming on in the 22nd, Splitsville looks awful. I have no desire to see that. Trust and Honey Don't. Okay. We're getting toward the end of August. I think they're rolling out some that you don't care, but let's finish up August.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
On the 29th, The Toxic Avenger. Now, I'll bet you that's going to be incredibly woke. Okay, that stars... Who is the little person who... He was the one... Ah, from Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, he was on Elf, too?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and he was on Elf, and he is the one who protested against using live Peter Dinklage. Now, he's a fine actor, by the way, a tremendous actor, but he's also a raving, raving liberal. He is. Okay, he helped ruin Snow White. okay because he is the one who spoke out and made it because they were just going to use live little people right and have seven dwarves and he said that that was bad and that started them down the road of ruining a movie anyway mr uh politically correct is going to be the hero in the toxic avenger which will be interesting hopefully that's not going to be all um Woke, but I'll bet it is. Then there are two other movies, The Roses, which is a divorce movie, which actually I think is going to be uninteresting, and a cool movie called Caught Stealing, which looks very interesting. So do you look forward to any of these movies?
SPEAKER 13 :
Maybe two or three of those.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. So for the summer, I think what you're looking forward to is Nobody 2.
SPEAKER 13 :
That'd be fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Weapons is a horror movie. I doubt you'll want to see that. The Naked Gun, you've got to at least be interested.
SPEAKER 13 :
If it's good, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you've got to be interested. Fantastic Four, First Steps, I think you've got to at least be curious. Not interested. I won't go that far, but curious. I can see you at Smurfs. I'm sure you'll be there. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, yeah. You can go instead of me. What about I Know What You Did Last Summer? Any interest?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's not your type. No, but that's actually a movie when I was younger I watched.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, Jurassic World Rebirth.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, that one I would like.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I know you're going to see F1.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and F1 I might even try to see before Friday when we review it.
SPEAKER 06 :
That'll be fun.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, article that I want to finish up with today. And I want to be nice here because I get where people come from and so on and some of the frustrations that happen. But there's an article in Fox 31. The website today and headline reads, I can't stand it anymore. Neighbors prepare for six mile sound wall in Denver. So neighbors near Interstate 70 in Denver say the noise in that area is constant from traffic nearby. Some say the noise keeps them up at night. Yeah, really? And interrupts their work. I can't stand it anymore. I walk. I walk out out there and I go, oh, why did I ever come home here? Says Pam Macias, who lives near the busy highway. OK, I got to stop there for a moment. Neighbors are sick of the noise.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Folks, newsflash. You live near a freeway. Right. Did you not know the free, I mean, I-70 in my lifetime. of living in Colorado has been there. Now, over time, yes, it has grown. It's been widened. It's been raised, lowered. All these different things have happened. I get that. And it's busier now than it probably ever has been. But it doesn't change the fact, Andy, that it's always been there. My beef with people like this always is it's like the guy that moves next to the airport and then complains about airplanes that fly over the top and make noise. It's like you didn't know it was there when you moved in?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I totally agree. I mean, you didn't see this coming. I mean, it was there before you.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I've heard or I've had like I've been on a call. This is their language, not mine, where someone is like blaring on their horn and you can hear it on the meeting. Yeah, you live next to the freeway. Yeah. But relief is on the way. The state, you and I, Andy, will be spending more than $20 million so these neighbors can have some peace and quiet.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we are.
SPEAKER 06 :
I thought that they were building a wall for their neighborhood.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, but you and I are paying for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
We're paying for it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes. I'm so happy that they're doing it, and it's taking them longer because they're on that side, that way up there. So now it's our turn. But it's not just about the noise. Safety is at the top of the mind of neighbors. Some live right by where a semi-trailer came crashing down in November, barely missing a home. The whole house went boom, and I went, oh, my God, what happened? Went running out there, and that's where that great, big, huge truck came in. Okay. Again, I understand the plight. You live next to the freeway. Have you ever thought of moving? Yeah. There's no handcuffs to the front door chaining you there.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I think it's a great idea to build walls. I think building walls along freeways to contain the sound is a great idea, but...
SPEAKER 13 :
But you're complaining about something that's always been there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Putting it all on the taxpayer? Yikes. Well, it's all coming on the taxpayer. Yeah, I don't like that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and my point of this is, and as I read these things, the first thing that comes to my mind just is, while I understand and I'm trying to be sympathetic to your plight here— Did an alien drop you into that house, or did you not buy it and move in or rent it or do whatever it is you do to live there? Right, right. And I get it. Typically speaking, those types of areas, the property values aren't as high, the rents won't be as high, and typically it's a little bit less money for folks to live in those areas. Okay? I get that. Yeah, but that's why. But that's why. So just remember that.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you spent less than John Rush, right? spent on his place or spends annually on his place, you're spending less to live there near a highway.
SPEAKER 13 :
Or anybody else that doesn't live next to him.
SPEAKER 06 :
But now you're making John Rush, who already pays a lot more for his home, help pay for a wall to make your place better. Yeah. Okay, so here's my question. What are you people by the highway going to spend your taxes on to make John Rush's place better?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'd love that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay. Well, they'll get right on that, John. I mean, look, they're there for you, buddy. They're going to come through. They are going to make things better for you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that ain't going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, the taxpayers never do anything.
SPEAKER 13 :
Never going to happen. For those who are paying the taxes. I understand that in some cases there are certain generations even to where maybe this is a second or third generation. They've lived in the home, and maybe I-70 was just four lanes at one time. It wasn't that busy, and you can handle it. There's something to be said there. I understand all of that. It is much bigger. Yeah, and I'm trying to be understanding of all of that. But on the same token, the highway hasn't moved yet. It's not even like an airport, Andy, where DIA comes in, and then some 30 years later, everybody's mad because of the noise. In this particular case, I-70 has run right through the center of town since I was a kid.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and let's face it. Look, it's obviously got more trucks, more cars, more traffic, thereby more noise. However, all the trucks and cars before were noisy, too. So you already had that whipping by all along. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. See, I do like having walls along the side of highways. I think it's much better for the people living there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I just think that those neighborhoods should be at least forking over some of the... At least some. They got to at least help pay for this because this is not benefiting everyone. This is benefiting specifically people who moved there when the highway was already there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Somebody says, I live three-quarters of a mile from C-471 time, and with a north wind, it sounded like I was sitting on the freeway. Yep. I sold the house. Those houses are very high and spiffy Highland Ranch houses. By the way, here's a trick, too, for some of you that may not know this. The road noise will always be louder if you're higher than the road. Well, that makes sense. Noise travels up. So if you're below the freeway, it will always be a lot quieter, not totally quiet, but quieter than if you live like up on a hill. So you see some of those houses on 470 up north, Northwest Parkway, where they're in that Brighton area, and they sit way up on a bluff and see 470s right down below them. I would never own that house. I don't care how nice it is. Because that road noise is going right up to that house. No thanks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry.
SPEAKER 13 :
Don't want that. But these are things that you should be doing your due diligence on. And this person did. They finally moved. Good for you, by the way. But I don't want that road noise. I don't want to live anywhere near a road. I've been there, done that once in my life. I'll never do it again. Any most miserable thing you could ever do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Really?
SPEAKER 13 :
Never live next to a busy road.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've never lived that close to a road.
SPEAKER 13 :
A major road. I made that mistake once, and when I moved into a particular house, it backed up to Sheridan over in Broomfield. And at that time, Sheridan was just a little two-lane road. It wasn't very busy.
SPEAKER 06 :
It wasn't a big deal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, but it got big. Yeah, and as time went by, it got worse and worse and worse, and I couldn't wait to get out of that place. It was so loud you couldn't hang out in the backyard.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, John, I guarantee you the people who moved in and took the homes along there were paying less. It became lower-income housing.
SPEAKER 13 :
And somebody said sound walls won't work. Actually, that's not true. Sound walls do work to a large extent, and it depends on how they're built. If they're constructed properly. Masonry walls actually will bounce the sound back into the highway, but not up and over. But, no, they're not going to cure totally any of that noise with these walls. It will help. But if these people are waiting for total silence from this, yeah, that ain't happening.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don't think they are, John. I think they just want it cut down.
SPEAKER 13 :
We'll see.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, look, people aren't. Okay, some people are complete idiots. Thank you, Andy. I mean, much of the show today has been talking about complete idiots. Thank you. Trump was still wrong. Thank you, Andy. Well, he brought peace in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 13 :
He's wrong. Trust me, some of these people are thinking that this thing's going to be dead silence like the library when they're done. It ain't happening.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, yeah, you'd have to be a moron to believe that. If I were living there, first of all, I would kick in some money to help with the wall. I mean, it's benefiting me.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn't live there is my point.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd be moving. I know. I'm just saying if. Okay. But no, I wouldn't be expecting it to be dead silent. I would just want it quieter. I understand that.
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SPEAKER 04 :
We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, that's going to do it for today.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, John, if you put up a wall on this table, you wouldn't have to hear me.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn't hear you, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wouldn't that be great?
SPEAKER 13 :
I would through the mic. I'm very loud. All right, you guys have a great night. Be safe. Hopefully you didn't have any storm damage. If you did, don't forget to call Roof Savers of Colorado. That's it, though. We'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
Join Angie as she dives deep into the world of artificial intelligence with Salima Lin from IBM Consulting. In this enlightening conversation, they discuss how AI is transforming business landscapes, improving productivity, and what it takes for companies to stay ahead. As Angie's personal anecdotes blend with expert insights, this episode becomes a rich tapestry of tradition, innovation, and human connectivity.
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Welcome to the good news with Angie Austin. Now with the good news, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey there friend, Angie Austin, Dr. Cheryl Lentz. Love that you're coming back so frequently. Dr. Cheryl Lentz.com. My good friend. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it's fantastic. It's been a while that we had together now, a regular basis. I love working with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
So let's do it. It's funny when we take a little break, um, I still have like built up interviews with you that I'll run. So nobody even knows we take a break. And then you and I are still texting each other and keeping up on each other's lives because we've become girlfriends in addition to being, you know, phone, you know, professional friends, radio friends. But you and I were talking about vacations and I know you love to travel and sadly you lost your soulmate heart dog, which I, I have five pets. So I, I just even get scared thinking about, you know, that and Gracie was your Husky that you had for so many years and nurse through so many illnesses. And when you lost her, you said, well, I am going to travel more now because that's kind of a passion for you and I, which we should meet somewhere. You know, I really should just come out to Chicago and visit you for two days and come out for a weekend, you know, seriously.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're welcome. I'll leave the light on for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
we can go kayaking but you only have a one-person kayak don't you oh i'm pretty sure i have a neighbor that's got one i think i can figure that one out i would be so lost trying to keep up with you i would be that lady spinning in a circle and you'd be laughing half a mile in front of me oh i'm pretty sure i haven't drowned yet and nobody else has ever even tipped in there you'll be just fine i'm sure do you
SPEAKER 05 :
lots of places in Chicago that you can go kayaking there's a lot of places I've wanted to go I stick around local because I'm in the suburbs but there's some really good places like by the Lincoln Park Zoo there's a lagoon down there that I've always and that's where the skull racers go there's also some depends on how good your skills are I tend to stay for more of the small confined lakes rather than lake michigan because lake michigan if you have that undertow that's way too much for me so i stay closer and there's so many lakes out here and i just kind of tool around and want to go see some of those things but i like the self-control lakes and i even like those that prefer no motorboats and no sea dudes because that's more like whitewater rafting if you have the guys that aren't paying attention so there's lots of different ways but yeah i'm not good enough for lake michigan that's hardcore and do you ever do rapids I did once. When I was in Albuquerque, I did the lower box in Santa Fe. And I remember the whitewater rafting. We had three and four level rapids. I, again, did the lower box, not the full box in there. I don't think I could walk real well for a week, but it was really cool.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. You know, one of the coolest things I've done was – and this wasn't any effort – but it was an airboat in rapids. And we did it in Oregon. Wow. And, uh, I'd never like, you know, those big airboats that kind of over the water. So you could go through water that was only a couple of inches deep and over the Rapids. And then he would do these three sixties when we got in slightly deeper water, where you'd be completely drenched from the water that would come up. My sister-in-law hated it, but all of my cousins loved it, which That's actually one of the things we were going to talk about is like making the effort, you know, to see people that Harvard happiness study talks about the biggest indicator. The best indicator of happiness is connections, family relationships, and we've had a friendship and we keep saying we're going to meet each other. So. i want to say let's do um you mentioned the lagoon by the lincoln park zoo when i come out which i'm going to try to do in the next six months because i have a new ticket where i can travel a lot more i love it oh you've got the companion ticket i love it i will go in there we'll have to rent them though chances are i'll have to figure that out but it's just so cool to be able to do different places in chicago so yes it's a date i will meet you there let's do the zoo and the um The zoo and the kayaking. That'd be a really fun day because I love zoos.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I have an opportunity in September we've not talked about yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really? It's so funny because I was thinking September when it's not so hot because August is horrible in Chicago. But here's the thing at the zoo.
SPEAKER 05 :
I sit on the University of Illinois Suburban Illini Board of Directors. So it's the Alumni Association for the Suburbs in there. And I just curated an event that's happening the first Saturday in September at the Brookfield Zoo. And it's called Orange and Blue at the Zoo. Okay. um most of the top leadership at brookfield do is from the university of illinois my alma mater and so we have curated with them for an entire day of nothing but orange and blue activities special discounts and everybody to wear their orange and blue for the day at the university of illinois so maybe you need to come for orange and blue day at the zoo oh my gosh that is so you know my son wants to go to um
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, where is Booth School of Business? That's University of Chicago? I think so, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm the one that's weak because we do have a University of Illinois Chicago campus, but what you're talking about is University of Chicago, so there's two different schools.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so orange and blue. Okay. All right, I am writing that down now. Is that by any chance, is that Labor Day weekend?
SPEAKER 05 :
It is. I think the weekend after, let me give you, I will give you the exact. I think it's like September. We had to plan it around football season. because we had to make sure that you have, I had an away game, but it is September 6th. So it's the weekend after labor day. So it's the first Saturday in September and it's September 6th and it's called the Brookfield zoo, orange and blue with the zoo.
SPEAKER 03 :
That sounds wonderful. Okay, so I'm going to write that down and we'll talk about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'm pretty sure we could probably find some kayaking somewhere because there's water all over the place.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, well, that could come out for like two days. You could arrive on a Friday and then leave on Sunday. Oh, that'd be great. OK, so let's that's our that's our goal. So my point to this is that make the effort like, OK, so I can make the effort to go and see Cheryl. Two of my kids will be off at college. Then one will be here. But my husband can hold down the fort. He can take care of the pets because I've got the five, as we know. And so I wanted to talk to Cheryl more today about, you know, making that effort to see people. And who knew that we were going to make the effort to see each other because I was going to tell her about all my cousins today. Because our last big family reunion with everybody from all corners of the country was in 2017. And so we're all the way at 2025 and we're having another one this summer. And it does take a lot of effort to get everyone together. And we started with a reunion and then we're ending up with a wedding. So I kind of figured that was what one cousin kind of planned it around to get us kind of all together and then said, by the way, we're going to get married on the last day. of the reunion. So how fun is that? So.
SPEAKER 05 :
But think about the concept of having to make an effort to plan something that's fun. We're not planning something to go to the dentist for a root canal, but if you don't plan it, it doesn't happen. And you and I have been friends for more than 10 years and we keep talking about this and we just haven't done it. Shame on us. So yay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so what I love about this is I have actually made the effort the last probably two years since Jim Stonewall and I started talking about the Harvard happiness study and I'm, um, I, I saw my best friend from high school in Oregon and, uh, I've seen her twice now in like the last year. And it's just the same. It's like, you can see why you became friends with these people. My girlfriends from NBC in LA that I worked with for 10 years in my twenties into my thirties. Um, I've had two or three trips with them. Now we went to Nashville. We went to, um, uh, We went to Tombstone and to Tucson, and that was such a blast because, you know, we're spread out now so we can go to each other's homes and plan these activities. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's so much fun. You're going to have to believe this, but last night I was a little sister to fraternity when I was in college more than 35 years ago. He drove down to see me yesterday, and we went out for dinner, and I haven't seen him in a couple of years in there, and we just went and just spent three hours together. We had dinner at Olive Garden, and we sat there, and we made the time, and that's the important thing. Is it always convenient? No, but if you don't plan it, it doesn't happen, and we're not asking you to plan something that isn't fun, and we had a great time, but yes, we did that last night, so yay, that's the year we're doing it all.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it it it doesn't it's not that expensive. Like if you and I made an effort to go out and see like Mike Opelka, you know, because I only saw him in an airport and then you saw him. You haven't seen him.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know I haven't met him yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's not somebody who wants to entertain. So we're not going to his beach house. You know, he's not that.
SPEAKER 05 :
that we're going to probably meet him for lunch or some event or something fun you know but we've got to you know plan that with him as well I know he does he he has a job in Florida but he does it from Delaware where he lives and then I know that is so funny and I just got an email from him the other day about some organ thing that he sent me because everybody knows that I have this organ thing he goes Cheryl you need to see this big organ so I think it's hysterical that you all remember little things and every now and then they get these neat little videos and I'm like oh Mike you got my number you know
SPEAKER 03 :
yeah and you know the other thing that with Mike that might be fun to do we're just thinking ways like we want you to start thinking yourself to like what how could you get in touch or meet somebody or you know even I do phone dates with some of my friends my friend in San Diego I do phone dates with that's kind of what you and I do because we talk on the radio but it's kind of a you know a phone get together but another fun thing to do with Mike would be Washington D.C. some of those wonderful museums they have you know I think we should do that I actually met
SPEAKER 05 :
somebody in Philadelphia that I went for an organ concert at a shopping mall because it was one of the largest pipe organs in the country and people were like you flew into Chicago for a one hour concert at noon to hear this it's like yes I did and aren't I glad I did because they're now selling them all and I don't know what's happening at the organ but I went in there for goofier things like that for a date with an organ from 12 to 1 Peter Conte was playing it was fabulous so I think it's cool to do these little tidbit things
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm going to send Mike a note and say that Cheryl and I think we should meet in Washington, D.C., you know, just to, you know, he'll be like, what?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, in the Smithsonian Museum or, you know, some kind of neat little quick. I'd be going, you know, I'd be happy to go in there. And this is the part is you don't have to go for a week or 10 days or three months. You can just go for an overnight. And I'll tell you the satisfaction you get with meeting somebody that you haven't ever met just to have.
SPEAKER 03 :
breakfast or an unusual experience i think it's so well worth it i've been doing a lot of that lately so yay well yeah and when we talked about when gracie passed the only thing that the only thing out of that that you could find it was positive because there was nothing positive about losing your heart dog was well i will travel now and you had said that to me multiple times when she was nursing herself kind of back you know she said um we're going to figure out how to travel again because you had really put that off because of everything that was going on.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it's funny because I did. When I went to graduation this past year for a university that I teach for, and I've never been on the on-ground campus, so I had two students graduating. I went for three days, and I saw two universities, three different sets of people. They all had time with me for a day. It was a hoot to be able to get there, and it was just even though maybe three hours with each person, I got to do four different sets of people in the four days that I was there. And it was a riot. And again, maybe four hours, three hours with each set of people that I was with. But so worth it because they were all in the right thing. And now you get to have that connection. And that is so important because you're not no one died ever wishing they'd work more. Right. It's the how many people can you connect with and make their day? And I still remember we were there. I met Elizabeth for an hour and a half because she's in Providence, Rhode Island, and she didn't happen to be in Arizona. So we worked into the trip. I'm like, I haven't seen her in five years. And it was so worth it. I'm smiling going, make the effort. It is so worth it. So, yes, let's do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love it. I love it. Yeah, we'll see what he says. He's going to be like, what? You know, it'd be funny. Well, OK, so then I'm talking about the effort put into my cousins. They're like the sisters I never had. And so we are all gathering in Northern California. Some people are coming from Maine, some from Oregon, so they can drive some from Northern California. My brother's coming from Arizona, but he is a teacher. You've talked to my brother before. He's a teacher. He takes the entire summer off. and he travels so last year was east coast and then this year with his little two-pound dog frankie they're going all through the west coast area and uh they so he's already going to be there and then i'm bringing my mom which my mom said you know i can stay back and take care of the dogs but he's in her mid-80s now and i kind of feel like this might be her last hurrah for family reunions and She's still with it mentally. She's not a great walker, but you know, I can get her there, especially with the help. One of my daughter's hope is so helpful. And it's so much easier to travel with my mom when I have my kids helping me because I might be able to round up the pets because I'm going to have the pets and six of us. So not all the pets, but some. And so, you know, six people, a mom in a wheelchair and a couple of Pomeranians doesn't make for easy traveling. So my husband rolled his eyes when he heard of all of this. And I said, you know what? You can't veto the pets because you're only there for two days anyway. And then you're leaving for with one of the kids for a basketball tournament. So, you know, don't even worry about it because normally he won't let me bring them. But it's just so much easier. You know, when you've got pets, especially five, it's as expensive as the vacation just to get people to watch them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's why, particularly at the end, I had a funeral to go through and Gracie was in her last nine months with me. And I was trying to make a bargain with God. It's like, please just, how do you make a choice? And so I had someone who stayed with her. It's like, God, please let it happen when I was here. And it happened about six weeks later. But that's still the point. And you have to make priorities. There's no easy choices. And when you have to try and do one there, it's just a matter of doing the best you can with what you have. And I think it's important to make those connections. And I think that's what we learned most about COVID. We didn't do well in isolation. And so now that we are no longer restricted, I think we need to go out, even if it's just, again, a one hour to say hi. It is so worth it. And you'll be talking about that story for years. And so, yep, I'm in. Let's do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Dr. Cheryl Lentz dot com. Always a pleasure. So you make the effort yourself to get together with people you care about. It is such a great indicator of happiness, those relationships. Thank you, friend.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. Take care.
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Hey there, you're just joining us. This is Angie Austin with the good news. Well, we hear so much about AI or artificial intelligence these days, and many of us are really starting to embrace it and understand some of its vast capabilities. Joining us to discuss further is Salima Lin, managing partner with IBM Consulting. Welcome. Thank you. Happy to be here. All right. So I'm fascinated by this. I just recently saw Mark Cuban do an interview and someone said, what would you do if you were young again? And he said, I would really get knowledgeable on AI. I would really embrace it. And my son is doing an internship and he recently did a project with it that is really astounded at what you can do with it. So let's just talk about an overview of AI and how some of the businesses are starting to embrace this technology.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, absolutely. So I would separate it into two camps when it comes to generative AI. And by the way, you can tell Mark Cuban that age has nothing to do with it. He can get educated on AI even now. I'll tell him. So two things. In one camp, it's all about productivity and efficiency, right? And that's probably what we've heard the most about when it comes to AI. And in fact, when we look at the priorities of CEOs today, and as you know, with the Institute for Business Value, which is our thought leadership think tank at IBM, we interview thousands of CEOs every year. And over the last 22 years, we've interviewed 30,000 CEOs. So, you know, we have a little bit of experience in this topic, but, um, They have three main priorities this year, and their second priority is all about productivity and profitability, right? And this is where AI can really help because if you look at some of the use cases that have come to bear, you hear data like 20% to 50% improvement in productivity, which is massive and it's real. But beyond just productivity and profitability, there's value. to generate AI, there's business value and business outcomes. And the third priority actually of CEOs in our study this year was all around product and services innovation, which of course reflects the need to stay competitive. But first and foremost, the top priority this year from CEOs was forecast accuracy. This comes up from number four spot last year, and it was at the bottom of the list in 2023. So forecast accuracy is something where generative AI and AI agents can really help, right? Because CEOs are looking for that crystal ball to help them navigate through a roller coaster of change that we're all experiencing. And what AI tools can do is really help CEOs forecast the future more accurately and more comprehensively and essentially make risk-taking less risky. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 03 :
So with this rapid advancement of this technology, has this really in your research with CEOs influenced CEO's perspective on AI and using it more readily?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. What's interesting here, Angie, is that with many technology cycles and definitely with AI, we see this rush to invest in AI and it's fueled by something we've all heard about, right? And that's FOMO, the fear of missing out. Yes. And in fact, one of these five mind shifts in the study from this year is all about overcoming this fear of missing out, the FOMO, and moving towards delivering real value. And so the question is, what does that really mean? Most organizations or many organizations have developed or deployed hundreds of proof of concepts or POCs over the last couple of years. And Angie, we know that while POCs might showcase potential, potential doesn't always translate into value. And when we look at the data, 61% of CEOs confirm that they're actively adopting AI agents today and they're preparing to implement them at scale. However, only 25% of these initiatives have developed or delivered the expected ROI. And so if you take a step back, the CEOs that are winning out there, the best leaders, we know they don't chase every idea. They support what works and they have the courage to cut what doesn't. And that's what's key.
SPEAKER 03 :
I want to know how businesses can apply AI and, you know, I mean, I know there's uncertainty surrounding this and I just want to give you one example where I feel like it failed greatly because I'm a big fan of it and I use it to help me write blogs and I use it, my son just used it for a business plan that he presented where he's doing an internship and they actually came to him and said, Is this something you think you could implement for us? He's like, you mean like run it, like start it up? And they're like, yeah, we know you're in college, but this is, you know, a really great idea. And I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, I cannot believe the responsibilities that they're giving him. He's like working hand in hand with the president and CEO and the finance guys and going to all their big mucky muck meetings and going to hotels and they let him present. And so anyway, he's used this in some of his projects for them. Okay, here's where I think it failed. So great for my son. We just were looking for a new truck and we went to this dealership and we've been talking to Stephanie. So we get to the dealership and Stephanie set up an appointment with us and we walk in and we ask for Stephanie. And the lady goes, well, I don't know. Hey, Bob, is there a Stephanie? So they're also asking around. There might be a Stephanie, but she's not there. And we're like, well, Stephanie told us to be here at 2.30. And then one of the guys comes in his crumply, wrinkly suit. He goes, oh, it might be an AI because the AI answers a lot of our texts. So like AI got us to drive an hour to this dealership for a truck that wasn't even there for a person. We don't even know if they existed. Like that to me was a huge fail. on how they're using AI at this big car dealership. So we left after like two hours round trip with nothing, completely disgusted with the fact that they weren't overseeing the AI and how it was bringing customers to their establishment. So let's just talk about how it is working and how it can be used and where you're seeing success with companies and with CEOs and from your respondents.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And congratulations to you, Sam, by the way. Thank you. I mean, in our study, like 68% of CEOs are saying that AI changes core aspects of their organization.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And there's this mind in our study, Angie, that is. about embracing AI-fueled destruction, which is really a mouthful, but what it means essentially is that success isn't about doing the same things better, but it's about optimizing what works and clearing out what doesn't so you make room for new growth, right? And this is where AI agents can help because they can give CEOs and business leaders the intelligence that they need to make difficult decisions and make them faster. And this is important because CEOs are rethinking everything, right? From the products and services that they offer to how they're running their businesses. But for creative destruction to be a value, it's important that as companies, we create governance guardrails, right? And these governance guardrails are all about how do humans and technology work together so that they make us better decision makers. And like with any technology, you can't divorce from it the need for human ingenuity, human insight, human decision making. And that coupling is incredibly important so that we minimize situations like your car dealership example.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I like that you are stressing that the human interaction needs to be part of it. I was trying to figure out how, like, you know, I was trying to do a logo. Right. And I wasn't really satisfied with it, with AI. And I did an interview with one of these organizations that you can hire like an artist or you can hire or whatever. And it's like a. big aggregator of all these talented people. And I'm like, well, how are you protecting like their art or how are you instituting them into the AI? And it's so cool. He told me, well, we'll take, let's say Angie Austin does art. We'll take Angie Austin art and then we'll use your style so that AI can integrate your style. So if they hire your package, the AI will only use like the Angie Austin style or the Selina Lynn style. And I was like, how cool is that? That you could still use AI, but it could have your touch of artistry or whatever to it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, what else are you learning from CEOs that's positive about this? Anything that you were surprised by in your research? I mean, how many people get to interview this many CEOs? It's kind of rare.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, right, right. So I'm not sure I would say it's a surprise necessarily, but I think it's something that is really critical, and that is data, right? The only way we can get the most value from AI is if the data that we have is interconnected. Think about like the root of a forest, right? It's really interconnected. And that's what we want from our data. And the more that it's comprehensive, the more that it's integrated, the better that it is. And so think of it, another example I would give is think about reading a novel, right? But you're missing some pages. You'll probably get the gist of the story, but you're missing critical elements that not only provide you with a fuller understanding of what's happening, but it gives you the sense of satisfaction and a sense of trust, right, in what you're seeing. And so for AI to be truly effective, organizations need to ensure their data is accessible, it's integrated, it's high quality. And to be honest, most CEOs acknowledge this, But the issue is that half of them say that their data is not connected. It's disconnected just because of the rapid pace of recent investments in technology.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, when you talk about investing in this technology, you know, obviously me using it, like it's free, right? But then when you talk about a business using it effectively, is this a huge investment for companies to be able to integrate this into their system and put in all the data and personalize it so it actually works well and helps their business, not hinders it like the, you know, buying the truck situation?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so I think most companies have put aside an amount that they want to spend on technology in general, right? And what we're seeing is a shift. in where they're spending their dollars and a movement towards AI because they see the potential for AI. But remember, when companies spend on AI, it's not just about that AI tool or technology. They need to get their data, as I mentioned, in a situation where they can apply AI to it. They need to look at their people and the reskilling of their people. The data tells us that a third of the workforce will need to be re-skilled within three years. A third. That's massive. That requires investment. And so I think it's all about the art of deciding where to invest, how to invest, and which use cases will get the most out of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it's interesting. I love to – I've been doing news and radio and TV for like, I don't know, decades now. And I get to interview a lot of interesting people like you. So I looked into like your background and everything. And I know you've got a master's degree in health policy and administration from Harvard. I mean, everybody's dream education, right? And I used to work at a hospital for like seven years. And so I'm fascinated by how AI can be used with medicine. In fact, we were just talking about AI last night with watching basketball and how horrible some of the refs are, right? and how you could make it so much better with AI. And you think about, like, doctors being across the country or across the world and how their expertise could be used. Like, could you operate from across the world using a computer or whatever? So I'm interested just in how you got into this whole area of expertise because – It's an interesting little niche you're in, and you're kind of on the cutting edge of what the future could be for business people, for the world. I mean, this is influencing so much in our world right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. So, I mean, in IBM Consulting, we're all about helping our clients solve their business challenges. And these business challenges and their needs typically are in one of three areas. They're all about operational efficiency. they're about strategic flexibility, and they're about driving innovation. And what we're seeing is that AI has a big role to play in all three of these buckets. And so it's almost like we need to do it because that's where our clients are going. But I will tell you that we do it to ourselves. And this is really important, right? We often call this client zero, so to speak, because we are applying AI to our business, to our workflows, to our support functions. And in fact, we have saved as a company $3.5 billion in productivity gains as we've simplified experiences that have transformed entire business functions for us, from HR to IT to sales. And because we've removed this complexity, Angie, our employees are free to focus on what really matters, which is time on repetitive tasks and more time on innovation and what we spend with customers.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah. And the customer aspect of that is so important to getting that repeat business. I'm seeing that a lot in my husband's business that they're so good with the customer service aspect. And you can't really, as we can see by the truck example, sometimes AI really can't replace that personal touch of the human that they have that relationship with. Well, this is so interesting, Salima. I've kept you. I've used up all my time. So give us the best place for us to get additional info.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. So if you go to IBM.com forward slash IBV, again, that's IBM.com forward slash IBV, you will be able to read the 2025 CEO study as well as other thought leadership that we have on the topic of AIR.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you. Very interesting topic. I appreciate your time, Salima. Thank you so much, Angie. You bet.
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Thank you for listening. You may notice we don't sell anything. We don't request money. I simply believe that God's in it. He'll pay for it. So our financial needs are his responsibility. My objective is to find those of you that are hungry for spiritual information and hopefully assist you in your Christian life or perhaps help you to become members of God's royal family by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. If you don't attend church, feel free to write to us via our website. We'll try to answer your questions, okay? But a lot of these cities that we're picking up, there's some great pastors in those cities, and we can refer you to those pastors if you'd like. Today's radio show is going to be about anger. Anger. Many individuals have an issue with their temper. I've had an issue with mine in the past as a young man. I played football and had a temper and got in fights a lot of times. Once I got saved, it didn't mean my temper went away, but I had to learn how to control it. Anger is often seen in road rage on the highways where one individual got highly agitated at another driver. They want to fight, get out, stop, try to beat him up. It sometimes occurs at work, even sporting events. Even at family events, sometimes those things can turn to anger too when your least favorite nephew gets around you. So when you get angry, what you're doing is surrendering control of your life to the object of your anger. If you're a Christian, anger is a source of emotional chain sinning, or going from one sin to another sin. So let's see what the Bible has to say about this subject on anger. We'll start with Ephesians chapter four, verse 30 and 31. The Bible says clearly, do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, listen now, let all bitterness, verse 31, Ephesians four, all wrath all anger all clamor and all evil speaking be put away from you along with all malice and then for the old testament we'll go to ecclesiastes 7 verse 9 do not hasten in your spirit to be angry for anger rests in the bosom of a fool so let's start with that ephesian passage and here we have a command from the apostle paul do not grieve the holy spirit of god The original Greek word for grieve is lupio, and this verb in the present tense means not now, not ever. You never are to grieve the Spirit of God if you're a Christian. The active voice of that verb, a present active imperative is what it is in the morphology of the verb, but the active voice says you are the one that's doing this, you do it yourself. And the imperative mood is what we call the mood of command. And this verb means to feel sorry. Obviously, the Holy Spirit is saddened by our sin and our failure. And we know from Ephesians 5, 18, we're commanded to be filled with the Holy Spirit, not drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit. Thus, when we allow our sin nature to take over our thoughts, when we get angry, when our emotions take over, it's disappointing for the Holy Spirit. As a matter of fact, let me ask you a simple question right now before we go one step further. Is it possible that you are not in fellowship this morning? Is it possible that you are harboring anger towards someone and bitterness and implacability? If it is, then you are not filled with the Spirit, you're out of fellowship, you're grieving the Holy Spirit, and you need to confess that sin to God immediately. In this case, in Ephesians, emotions are the culprit. So the question to be asked this morning is, can you control your emotions? Always remember this, that emotions, make sure we get this clear here, always remember that emotions are are the culprit, and the emotions don't think, they just react. That's why we're told to have the mind of Christ in Philippians 2.5, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. So emotions, again, don't think, they react. But if you learn to think, you can respond, so you have a choice. When you get angry, you can react with your emotions, or you can respond by thinking clearly. That's why we're told again to have the mind of Christ, and that's the key to controlling your emotions. It's a mindset of humility, and this is exactly what the passage says in Philippians 2, 5. He humbled himself and made himself of no reputation. When you have the same thinking or the same mindset of the Lord Jesus Christ, then you'll be able to do what he did, and that's use impersonal love with the individual who has made you angry. Maybe you've never heard the term impersonal love if you're a new listener. It's what we call problem-solving device number seven on the flatline of your soul. Again, the flatline is made up of 10 problem-solving devices taught clearly in the scripture. It's not something new I developed. My pastor taught me this a long time ago. If you don't understand these, you need to get in touch with us. Write us through the website. We'll send you the book, Christian Problem Solving. It'll list all 10 of those slot line principles. So if this is the first time you've heard it, order the book, Christian Problem Solving. It's free. It won't cost you a dime. But people and circumstances can make you angry. But it's what you do when you're angry that glorifies God, whether you react or whether you respond. In Romans 12, 19, the Bible says, Beloved, Do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath, for it is written, vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord. So you don't have to worry about getting even with whoever makes you angry. You can let the Lord handle that, and that's a wonderful monkey off your back. Let God handle it. The longer you get bitter and the longer you stay angry, the more you try to handle it, try to get even, try to get revenge, the deeper you go into your sin. In Hebrews 10, 30, the Bible says, for we know him who said, vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord, and again, the Lord will judge his people. Now let's go back to Ephesians 4.31. We find these words after we are warned not to grieve the Holy Spirit, then we find a pattern here of mental attitude sins that lead all the way to terrible destruction. It says, let all bitterness, let all wrath, let all anger, let all clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you along with all malice. This verse demonstrates what typically happens when a person gets angry. Once your emotions take control, you find yourself getting bitter. The word bitter is a Greek word called pikria, P-I-K-R-I-A. That's the Greek word, pikria. And it means something that is accurate or sharp and unpleasant, irritating, referring to some person or some action that's totally repugnant to you. I would often think of drinking spoiled milk. You want to spit it out. In this passage, we're instructed to concentrate, not to concentrate on the bitter taste left in our soul, from the unjust treatment we've experienced. So don't do that. Let all bitterness be gone, it's going to tell us. You're not allowed to be bitter. That's a terrible sin to get bitter. In this totally, in this passage, we have instructions not to concentrate on the bitter taste left in our soul. And then it goes to the next word. Let all bitterness and all wrath, W-R-A-T-H. That's a Greek word called thumos, T-H-U-M-O-S in the Greek. That means boiling up passion or boiling up anger. Emotional control taking over. And so from wrath, then we come to anger. Let all, what does the passage say? Let all wrath. Let all anger, let all clamor and evil speaking be put away from you along with all malice. So we have wrath. That's kind of like the thunderstorm, the thumos, thunderstorm boiling up. And then we move to wrath, anger, wrath. Anger is the word orge, O-R-G-E. And that's the impulse to harm someone, a violent emotion. The next step, once you let the anger take over from the source of wrath because you're bitter about something, see how it follows a pattern. The next step is you start complaining to people. You gotta run your mouth about it. You gotta find somebody to tell what happened to you. You gotta find somebody to tell them how you've been treated unjustly and tell somebody what a jerk that other person is. That word that we're talking about is evil speaking, clamor, clamor. Clamor comes before evil speaking, so let's look at it. Let all bitterness, peccaria, let all wrath, thumos, let all anger, orge, and now clamor. What in the world is clamor? Clamor is the Greek word krauge, K-R-A-U-G-E, and it's a loud outcry. It's what is called in the English an onomatopoeia. An onomatopoeia, my English teacher will be proud of me that I know what that is. An onomatopoeia. That means the word is formed after the sound or what it sounds like. The sound here is the barking of a crow. And that's like you going from constant complaining for all that's happened to you, for everybody to hear. So you just start barking like a crow. You know how a crow does early in the morning. He crawl, crawl, crawl, crawl all morning. If you've ever turkey hunted, you know what it is. Turkeys will gobble to get those crows. So we're to stay away from sounding like a crow, barking, complaining, going to find people that we can bark to, tell them what a raw deal we got. And then we go from that to evil speaking, where Paul said, let what? Let all bitterness, all wrath, all anger, all clamor, and all evil speaking. What is evil speaking? Well, that's the word blasphemia, blasphemia. And that means to slander, to malign an individual, to run them down, criticize them, backbiting. So what I've just read to you is a progressive mental attitude of sins of an individual who is angry. But then it goes on into malice along with all malice. And malice is a desire to harm someone. That's you wanting to get even, to hurt them, beat them up, run them down, put them in jail, whatever you want to do to get even with them. But actually in verse 32, Paul tells us how to deal with those people that we're mad at. What does he say? He says, be ye kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God, for Christ's sake, has forgiven you. You can only do that by using the filling of the Holy Spirit and using impersonal love, which is problem-solving device number six on the flight line of your soul. You might not know what impersonal love is if you're a new listener. That's why I encourage you to get the book, Christian Problem-Solving, But it's you being able to love an individual that's not worth loving. It's the same thing God did for you when it says God so loved the world. You were not worth loving. You were a sinner. You were nasty. You were filthy. You were vile. And yet he loved you. But he didn't love you based on what you are. He loved you based on what he is. And personal love, it gives you the ability to love another person based on who you are, not based on who they are. So be you kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you. That's an amazing concept there. To be tenderhearted towards a person you don't like, to forgive a person that did you wrong, just like God forgave you is what it's saying. So in closing, let's get some principles on anger. One, here's a clear principle. Anger is a sin which motivates honor code violations like gossip, judging, maligning, criticizing, backbiting. Most of these sins result in chain sinning one right after another. If you're angry at someone this morning, you probably have done this. You might have done it today already. Just got up mad about something. Got on the phone, called somebody and complained about something. Number two, anger motivates jealousy and cruelty. Anger motivates jealousy and cruelty. Proverbs 27, four, wrath is cruel and anger is outrageous, but who is able to stand before envy? So a person can't be angry without being cruel and unfair to the person they're angry at and to other people that get in your periphery. Number three, anger is related to stupidity. So it's a good question to ask you, are you being stupid this morning? Ecclesiastes 7 verse 9, do not be hasty to be angry in your mind for anger resides in the bosom of a fool. Anger resides in the bosom of a fool and thinking of a fool. So if you're angry, you're thinking like a fool this morning. And fools usually destroy themselves by a series of bad decisions. So the person you're angry at, you're just angry at, and then you're going to wind up destroying your own self through discipline from God because you won't confess that sin of anger. Four, a person is never smart when he's angry. And that's why many stupid and embarrassing things are said in anger. Like, I hate you. I don't ever want to see you. You know, you probably have said some of that yourself. That's stupid. That's dumb. That's a fool who says that sort of thing. Embarrassing things. Said in anger. Wishing you hadn't said them. And then trying to go back and apologize and say, well, I wish I hadn't said that. I'm sorry. That's what your anger is. I used to have a fishing friend. He had a hot temper and that thing would go off. Man, when that thing went off, he'd explode. But strangely enough, an hour later, he'd be normal again. He couldn't control his anger. Number five, anger is a violation of the royal family honor code, Colossians 3.8. But now you also put them all aside, anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth. Put them aside. Put them away. Don't do that. They all are sins, and they all quench and grieve the Holy Spirit in your life, and they all will bring discipline to your life if you don't confess them as sins. Six, when you're maltreated, never let reaction become sin because if you retaliate, then your reaction becomes anger. When you're maltreated, never let reaction to maltreatment become sin. If you retaliate, then your reaction becomes anger. I know a story that I heard years ago from a headmaster that I knew in a school I was speaking in because he whipped a kid for something the kid did not do wrong. The kid had every right to get mad, to sue him, to fight him, to hit him, but he kept his mouth shut. He took it. And he said, the kid told him, said, I can take it, I can handle it. He didn't go home and complain to his father. He just forgave the headmaster for whipping him for something that he didn't do wrong. Actually, it was because the teacher wanted him to read in class and the kid never learned how to read at another school before he came to this school. So he got a whipping for something that wasn't his fault, he didn't know how to read. So you can't retaliate when you get treated unfairly. Seven, you cannot build your happiness on someone else's unhappiness. And that's exactly what you're doing when you try to retaliate. You try to make them unhappy and try to build your happiness on their unhappiness. You can never, ever, ever be happy by getting revenge. Here's point eight, and it's a pretty good point. Anger will destroy a marriage. Maybe that's happened to you. Maybe you and your spouse have fought and been bitter and angry at each other and don't speak to each other. It'll hinder your prayer life, the Bible says, too. I pray that's not the case. You have no right to get angry with your wife or your husband. You have to learn how to use impersonal love, learn how to use the floodlight in your soul, how to use God's problem-solving devices, and you don't have to get angry at each other. Nine, arrogance motivates emotional sins like jealousy, bitterness, vindictiveness, hatred, implacability, revenge, self-pity. Anger is the other side of the coin with jealousy on the front side. And criminal activity of the criminal is the function of an arrogant, angry person. Anger always adds wrong to wrong or sin to sin. Anger doesn't make anything right, it just makes it worse. So if you have a hot temper and you're a Christian, you have to learn to overcome that arrogant temptation to react rather than respond. React means to let your emotions take over, get bitter, get angry, get full of wrath, get full of malice, get full of hatred, or respond with forgiveness, tenderness, mercy. Same thing God did for you. In 2 Peter 1-2, the Bible says, Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus Christ our Lord. Notice the two things you need to defeat your anger are grace and peace. God graced you out and graced me out by sending his Son, our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, to pay for our sins. We did not deserve it, nor did we earn his forgiveness, and we were given grace. Ephesians 2, 8, 9, For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God and not of works, lest anyone should brag about it. So the two things we need to overcome anger, what are they? Grace and peace. Peace is a wonderful mental attitude provided from the filling of the Holy Spirit. Did you know that? Galatians 5, 22, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, meekness, mercy, faith. So peace comes from the filling of the Holy Spirit. That means your mind doesn't have a storm. Think about an old washing machine like an agitator. And you had a top-loaded washing machine that had an agitator in there and you put your clothes in there and put your soap in there and that thing starts agitating. swishing around. Your mind can get like that sometimes when you get angry. And you can't focus your thoughts. You're just agitated. That's exactly what happens. No peace in your life. You may be without peace this morning because you're angry and bitter and mad about the way someone's church treated you last week or the way one of your family members is treating you this week or the way some politician is acting that you don't like. So you're angry and bitter, vindictive about it. In 2 Thessalonians 3.16, now the Lord of peace, there it is, the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. Thus the Lord be with you all. What a wonderful thought. The Lord of peace give you peace, give you joy. My prayer for you this morning is that you will conquer that temper of yours and enjoy the wonderful peace, what we call a relaxed mental attitude that God can provide for you by learning and applying his word and all the scriptures into your soul. We have a term for it called LAG, L-A-G. LAG simply means learn, apply, and glorify. Learn, apply, and glorify, L-A-G. This formula helps you to grow spiritually by learning and storing scripture in the mentality of your soul. So you can use it later and you can recall it when necessary. But again, your volition still has to decide what you want to do. You want to react or you want to respond. Those scriptures in your soul, if you've learned them, will echo out to you, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. And your sin nature will tell you, oh, go ahead, oh, go ahead, oh, go ahead. Listen to what the word of God says in Exodus 23, 22. But if you indeed obey his voice and do all that I speak, then I will be an enemy to your enemies and an adversary to your adversaries. There's the Lord taking up for you. There's the Lord handling your problems. In Luke 6, 27 through 29, but I say to you who hear this, love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. Bless those who curse you and pray for those who spitefully use you. To him who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. You don't repay evil with evil. You repay evil with good. In Proverbs 24, 17, do not rejoice when your enemy falls and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles. These verses clearly teach us that we are not to delight at our enemy's difficulties or disasters. that we are to stay out of God's business. Stay out of God's business. I'm going to say it again. Stay out of God's business. If the person you're angry with has mistreated you or wronged you, then they will be disciplined by God. If they're believers, he doesn't need our help to straighten them out. Stay out of God's way. That's all you have to do. Let the Lord handle it. So that's my message on anger this morning. Are you listening? You want to get in touch with me, it's easy to do. Just go to the website rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org, and we can be glad to send you any of these books we're talking about, especially Christian Problem Solving, identifying all of those 10 problem-solving devices. and encouraging you to go to the website under Flatline and listen to previous shows. I also remind you of the podcasts that we do, various podcast venues like Apple iPod and Spotify. You can always go there and type in The Flatline and find it. But the main thing I want to encourage you to do this morning I want you to know for sure that if you die today, you'll go to heaven. You don't have a guarantee you're going to be around this afternoon or tomorrow. Maybe you think you will be. Maybe you feel fine. Maybe you feel great. Say, oh, man, I'm okay. I feel just fine. Well, good. I'm glad you feel fine. But if, just if something were to happen, and tonight was the night God called you home, would you go to heaven? Do you have eternal life? Do you know for a fact that you're going to heaven? The Bible says these things are written so that you might know that you have eternal life. He that has the Son has life. He that has not the Son of God has not life. So you can receive Christ as your Savior if you'd like to do that. If you've never done it, I encourage you to do that. I encourage you to pray to God right now and tell him that you believe Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior. You believe he died on the cross for you and you're willing to accept him as your Savior. Because the Bible says, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And that means you and it means me and anyone else that's ever done it. So I hope you enjoyed the show this morning. I hope you learned something. If you need a transcript of it, let us know. You can always call us at 800-831-0718. 800-831-0718. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, host of The Flatline, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline today.
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