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Addiction affects countless lives, often in unexpected ways. In this episode, we’re talking about more than just the well-known substance addictions like drugs and alcohol. We delve into the nuances of addiction to relationships and even the surprising grip of sugar. The real-life experiences shared will help you understand the deep emotional and psychological factors involved in addictions. Whether you’re looking for hope or just insights, this discussion sheds light on the importance of recognizing and addressing these hidden addictions.
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I can't hide myself. I don't expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it's like to be a man.
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Welcome to A Guy's Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
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how's it going today every klz listener again you can reach us at 303-477-5600 again good afternoon every klz 560 am listener again you can reach us at 303-477-5600 we're going to go around the room and Ask these guys how they're doing right now. We'll start right here with Brian.
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Well, I'm doing pretty good today. Excited to be here. Been thinking about the last show and got a lot of advice today.
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Right on. Let's go to Andre. Let's hope it's good advice, Brian. Good afternoon. Part two. I guess we're doing part two of this pretty serious topic, you know. But it's good to be here with you guys. That's right. Reno?
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Yeah, good to be here enjoying the weather.
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It is. It's a beautiful day today. And it's not snowing. Again, we just want to announce some of our sponsors. We have Blueprint Electric for all your electrician needs. You can reach us at 303-218-3555. Again, we have Clearview Windshield Repair. For all your windshield repair needs, you can reach them at 303-229-7442. And Advanced Tech Services, for some more of all your electrical needs, at 720-581-4399. And like Andre had just said, we're going on to part two of addiction. So let's get started, boys. It's... just another fine day here in Colorado and let's see what we can get into. All right. All right. Let's do it. So Brian, Brian, since you got this amazing advice, buddy, let's hear about it.
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Well, I think to start off first, it would be if you are dealing with addiction, your first step might be is to change your circumstance, change your, Bring change into your life. Maybe change a job that would cause you not to want to use any longer.
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So basically change your mindset or just change your life in general.
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Yeah, bring something that changes your circumstance.
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All right. Well, I've got a question, Brian. I mean, have you dealt with, you know, I kind of heard you last time. You dealt with some addictions with not only food, but, I mean, you kind of dealt in some areas that, you know, you and I have... had similar situations, I suppose, right?
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Well, I've never been addicted to something that would cause like alcohol or heroin that would cause you to have relapse in some state or form.
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But the problem with what you just said with addiction, if I get they've got to change their mindset and you've got to kind of start walking down a different path, but I would imagine that if you just up and bailed on your job, you're probably going to be in a worse state than you originally were. You know what I'm talking about?
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And those are one of the signs of addiction. I was actually looking. you know, about that. And actually, I got to make a correction the other day or last week. I said that, you know, I didn't know that I was addicted or whatever the case may be. It's kind of a lie. You know, I was kind of addicted to some prescription opioids. And I remember at one time I actually did have to see an actual therapist to kind of set me straight. And, you know, there's a lot of co-morbid or co-bitten. There's basically two areas where sometimes you have a mental thing and you're also dealing with the addiction i think a lot of people need to know that is that sometimes you know the mental health piece could be like um depression someone that's entered a state of depression i know in the past we've talked about things like that you know and sometimes you know um people will utilize you know a drug prescription or otherwise or over utilize that prescription drug and And, you know, that's one of the reasons why we tend to become addicted to certain things.
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Do you think that people who actually have an addiction, do you think they're in denial that they have one? Do you think they don't realize they have one? I think at first.
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I think they could go both ways. Some people would be in denial and some people would be not realizing how bad the addiction is.
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That's good right there. Like, what do you mean how bad the addiction is?
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Like, someone to say I could stop anytime.
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Gotcha.
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I'm doing this because I like to do it.
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Do you think that person's in denial, though, if they say, oh, I can stop at any moment, but I've been doing it for the last 20 years?
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I don't know if it's denial, delusional, or they might just not realize how in over their head they are.
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Let me, well, so another, because there's hundreds of addictions. Do you think like a relationship could be an addiction? Do you think somebody could be so codependent on somebody that that becomes an addiction also? Yeah.
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I do. Absolutely. There's people that as soon as they get out of one relationship, they hop right into another one. That says a lot. You know, I mean, we're dealing with people that, you know, don't always know or they have to have someone in their life. Yeah, that's a great question.
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That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, because everybody generally thinks about addiction as like cocaine or alcohol or some kind of opioid, some kind of prescription drug, but it makes you wonder if relationships can be an addiction. So, for example, take the gentleman who his whole life's falling apart because his relationship's falling apart. Was he so codependent or so dependent upon that person that now he's... Well, it has to depend on your personality.
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Okay. I think we discussed that last time on the radio. Like, if your personality is always somebody who needs love and is looking for somebody consistently, then...
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Well, that would be all of America, right? It seems like every person is looking for... No, some people can't be alone, though.
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Like, I could go alone for a while.
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But then I'd want somebody down the road. That's good. Explain it. What do you mean by... Let's talk about this, boys.
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Let's dive into this.
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Let me back up. Maybe I didn't.
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It was okay to back up. As long as his mom ain't.
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He's got his mom on his side. He ain't alone. And we would like to, if you're a listener out there and you want to chime in, just remember you can call us at 303-477-5600. We're going to talk about this because this gentleman right here to the right of me just tells me last night, and I hope you don't mind me saying, This guy was like, no, I ain't taking that job because I ain't going to hang out with my mama. And, and back to what we're talking about. Cause this, this, we can go down a rabbit hole right here, but relationships I feel like can be an addiction.
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Yeah. I mean, I can see that. I mean, but, you know, getting back to the addiction, you know, that affects others. That's the other question. You're right, too, because bad relationships or codependent relationships can really affect people, right, in a bad way, in an adverse way. Sometimes we become a mess. We become, you know, so entangled with one another that we aren't our individual selves any longer. That's very good. Yeah, now we've allowed that person to basically, in a certain way, tell us how to be. And we've allowed boundaries or vice versa, or, you know, sometimes together there there is you need to have individuality. And in a relationship, being a mesh too close. overlapping so far where you lose your individuality now all your boundaries are broken down and that can lead to resentments that can be lead to things that create you know havoc in a relationship so you know that you got a good point there so if you because you just mentioned boundaries if you let your boundaries down where do you think that'll end up taking a person if they just throw up their arms and say forget it this relationship's over
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I don't care anymore. This was my be all everything in my life. I'm now going to head down a different path. I'm going to start drinking every day because it happens to people. Let's be real.
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They lose everything and they turn to other things. And sometimes they turn to those other things to numb the boundaries that they've allowed to overlap themselves.
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That's good.
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You know, they don't, they no longer are the autonomous person. They are just, you know, one and one and one and done. And they're trying to find a way to regain who they are, to reclaim their individuality. And sometimes that's hard for people to find the ability to do that. So yeah, they use a coping mechanism. And become dependent on, you know, whether it's a prescription drugs or drugs in general or alcoholism or, you know, other there's other forms eating, et cetera.
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Do you think once, and again, for all of our listeners, you can always chime in, we're giving a guy's perspective. We're talking about things that we have went through as men. There's a lot of soft men nowadays. Let's just be real. that they didn't have boundaries to begin with. They were just limp noodles all the way around. So for guys who are going through some things and they're trying to be good, outstanding, strong men, when your boundaries get torn down, like Andre was saying, you start turning to different things to rebuild yourself up, basically. do you think it's do you think it's a mental thing at that point do you think it's it's in their head that they've got to get past some kind of struggle with inside themselves i would say yeah i say uh too well why do you guys say yeah though because it's what what else would it be well you know it's it's in internal So you think mental health and addictions, they're fighting something inside? Because I believe it. I believe you're fighting something inside of yourself.
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I do. I think sometimes people get in a situational depression, you know, because, you know, we're meant as men, just as human beings to... you know, biblically speaking, glorify God. But with that said, you know, God gave us the authority to be like gods, you know, on this earth per se. I mean, it's in the Bible. And when people start stripping that away from your individuality and when people start attacking, you know, who you are or trying to change you, well, change doesn't come from others. It comes from intrinsically. You know, and sometimes when we see the need to change, usually it's because we don't see it. Sometimes it's because there's something that causes us to change.
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So how big of a change, and we'll go right to Brian, how big of a change should it be initially when somebody sees that, hey, they've got this problem? Does it just have to be little minute changes or is it just something drastic?
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Well, it depends on how far the addiction has gone.
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Okay.
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I mean, how long have you been in this addiction? Yeah. Is it 20 years? And it depends on the kind of withdrawal symptoms you will have after you come off of addiction. Like heroin, if you've been on heroin for a long time and you try to quit, well, the withdrawals are severe. I mean, sweats, in the bed, throwing up, then that would make it twice as hard to quit.
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Because of the withdrawals. Exactly.
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So then people are like, I got to get another fix because they can't handle the withdrawal any longer.
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So he's saying the withdrawal is so strong that even if you wanted to quit, you're not able to quit.
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Yeah, so I've watched episodes of drug use and people that are having withdrawals of heroin.
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Don't tell us some CNN stuff. No, no, no.
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I'm talking live. on the spot people that they're they're recording that with no that are dealing with addiction that you know need need a fix within the 24 hours before which all starts yeah like i need a fix right now so so what do you think their body goes through let me ask you guys that well you know getting well i was reading okay essentially because you know i after last show i kind of
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had, you know, I just decided to, you know, take a look at, you know, my statement was incorrect last time where, you know, my addiction, you know, was being perpetuated by me trying to get off of something that was causing me the withdrawals. Mine was prescription. It wasn't, you know, um, there's opioids and whatnot, but they say that there's a high correlation that just ease the withdrawal symptoms. You just take a little bit more, a little bit more until you start to ease that nausea or not, you know, say arena.
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Well, that could be the case with alcohol. I've known people personally that if they came off the alcohol, their heart wasn't strong enough to handle the DTs.
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So you think they would have seizures and things like that, maybe?
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Well, the doctor told them they would die.
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Oh, wow. Wow. Because he's telling the truth right there. Yeah. When it comes to alcohol... You can destroy your liver so much to where you're not coming back from that.
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I mean, that's, but. And we know, I think all of us, at least I do and you do.
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Yeah.
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We know people, friends that their uncle or aunt passed away. Oh, for sure. Because they just, even after the doctors have told them, look, this is sentencing you to a slow, miserable death. If you don't stop, you can correct this, but they keep on going.
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But that's what, but that's also what Brian said. And we'll go back to, okay, Reno, go.
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I've had friends that died from alcohol. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, because what happens is I don't think people understand that if you're an alcoholic and your liver gets ruined, the doctors aren't just going to put you on a waiting list and give you a new liver.
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But what would you say to somebody who... went to the doctors and they told them they had cirrhosis of the liver. And so you already are going to die from that anyway. So why wouldn't you just continue to drink?
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Because I think what happens, and correct me if I'm wrong, and if our listeners know better than us, please chime in because we'd really like to know. I think your liver can heal itself pretty well. I think. I think you have to get to a point to where it's completely damaged to where it can't.
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I don't know. I've heard that. I've heard that the liver is the only organ that actually can regenerate itself. Um, but the, the overall problem, again, goes to a mental thing when you think about it, because that pull is so strong on them. There has to be a retraining of the brain, a re a chemical change in the brain that, you know, takes those receptors that are looking for that same, you know, fix per se. Right. And without that type of help and, you know, there, sometimes they are stuck, um, And, you know, we're not experts at this, but I'll tell you, we're not. I'll tell you what I did look up. It's called SAMHSA. Sam. Yeah. SAMHSA.
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Yeah.
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And basically it's a substance abuse and mental health service administration, you know, through their government. And basically, they have a pretty simple setup that shows you, you know, how you can gain assistance in any state you're in. Even if you're a mental health expert, you can actually apply to it. But if you're in a crisis, you can actually call or text them 988. That's good. And, again, just text 988 and... They'll give you the resources to help with these areas because the items I was looking at, a few years ago, I wish this was out there. I mean, I would have looked at it. I mean, thank God. I did seek out a mental health expert, and things have changed.
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But I don't think too many people want to go to a rehab center for – you know, weeks at a time. I think that's really hindering people.
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Well, I think what it comes down to, especially when it comes to addiction, you have to find what fits you. There are some people they have to go to a place like a rehab.
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Some people won't survive without a rehab center. Yeah, that's for sure.
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Well, look at this. On the other hand, there's other people out there that they're not going to survive without rehab. looking inward and saying, you know what? I'm going to start going to the gym like we used to. And like you did. And saying, hey, I'm going to pick up some kind of hobby to get my mind off of this.
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Brian, you just ate another for you. What did you do?
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Well, to piggyback from the last show, I got a call from a friend who said, why would you say food's an addiction? Well, if you go look at it, And you look how much sugar is sold in America. If you go do your research and you look how many donuts are being bought every day around the world, I think there's a sugar problem. And if you don't think sugar is an addiction, I don't know what to tell you.
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Well, I don't know. I don't think sugar is an addiction. I think crack is an addiction. No, I do. Sugar is more addicting. When's the last time you've seen somebody on the corner trying to use sugar?
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Listen, sugar is more addicting than heroin. I don't care what anybody tells you.
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And how in the world do y'all figure out? When's the last time you've seen somebody on the corner trying to sell their body for some sugar?
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It's too easy to find, Brock. You can get sugar at your local stores. Harino, chime in. Hey.
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Sugar.
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So all you guys are going to sit here and tell me about sugar.
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No, it's addictive. He's right. It's more addictive than heroin.
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In fact, when I got off of those.
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Hey, you completely be sugar free.
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Yep, absolutely. Well, hold on because, I mean, let me get back to the, you know, these guys are telling the truth because I remember along with our, you know, physical journey of getting out of any type of addictions, you know, at the time, the things I dropped out of my life were caffeine. I started eating protein again. I started just doing anything and everything. I hate veggies, so veggies weren't in my diet. So no carrots? No carrots? No carrots. Unless it was gold. No. But, you know, honestly, honestly, like I know sugar helped me out so much in so many different ways. In fact, now that I'm, you know, not on that diet any longer, sugar has caused me, caused inflammation, all these things that come with age and whatnot.
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I do agree that. I think it is addictive. Well, I do agree that you got to change your diet.
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Nobody thinks that sugar's an addiction because there's not too much withdrawal. I'm with you, Brian.
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I ate a whole lot of Cocoa Pebbles growing up, man.
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No, there are withdrawals to sugar. You stop eating sugar, you'll get headaches.
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That's what happened to me, too. Yep.
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But most people say that's caffeine.
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No. You say sugar.
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Well, that can't be so, because I don't get headaches every day.
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I don't drink coffee. I get headaches every day, and I eat sugar every day. You're nice and rotund, bro. But this...
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I don't see – I mean, I guess I don't really look at sugar as an addiction. I just think it's bad for you.
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I don't know if I can – Sugar is related to cancer.
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Wow.
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No, you're probably telling – that would be deep. There's a lot that I just believe that –
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Brian, can you look that up?
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I believe that they purposely put it in the food system here because if you go to other countries, there's not that sugar content.
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That's right.
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Germany doesn't have it.
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So other countries have outlawed certain things is what we're saying.
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In fact, in Russia, I mean, there's countries without health food stores. Why do we have them here? Why isn't the food already healthy?
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You're asking a good question. Well, that can go to another topic, which is the bureaucracy that our government has. Okay, you're making a point.
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So does our government seem like it's...
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It's poisoning us right out the gate. Well, it's not the government per se, but it is the people that, you know, line the pockets of the FDA and all these other, you know, Hey, you know what? We want to pass this new thing, but there's one thing in here that causes cancer inside of a lab rat. You know, however, if you write it this way, we can pass it through the FDA. The things that are being said, I do believe that Brian is correct. And I do believe that, um, sugar is one of the addictions. especially when it comes to high fructose corn syrup. But natural sugars, natural occurring sugars like in, you know, pineapples, fruits, et cetera, those are a different type of sugars and they break down better.
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Yeah, that's good, yeah.
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Right?
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Well, real quick, can I give a shout-out to my dog, Snicker?
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Oh, Snickers, huh? Listen to this, guys. We're talking about how Sugar's addicted and his dog's named Snickers.
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See, he does have experience.
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Come on, man. My dog's addicted to candy.
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Don't tell me you're giving your dog some candy. Which one of you guys are giving your dog candy?
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No ice cream. My dog's gotten into the candy, but I never gave it to him. I'll tell you what, Brock, you keep, you know, this is one of those topics that we really do want the input of the listener as well. Because you might just say, hey, you guys are full of it, you know, and we might be. But we'd like to hear your opinion on it or your true life testimony. Or if you're in mental health, I have a neighbor who's a mental health professional, and he actually gave us some accolade and said, hey, you know what you guys are doing? Keep it up. He used to be an addictions counselor, and now he's just an LPC. But we want your guys' feedback. And if there's things that we're missing or off the mark on, give us a call.
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But I think we're giving advice because we have dealt with addiction one way or another. But I haven't dealt personally with addiction that had severe withdrawals. And I only feel like there's a few drugs on the market that... that have to have that occur in your life. Just like if you like, you know, you're not going to have withdrawals if you do cocaine. Well, I don't say that I never done.
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Well, I mean, I'm sure you can have withdrawals from pretty much every kind of addiction. Again, like we said, like Andre was saying, Arena was saying, Brian was saying, Heath is not here today, so we want to shout out to one of our people here on the show. Hope he's doing good. He's trying to become an actor as well as a radio person, so let's just tell him hi and Everybody, like Andre was saying, we're not the most experienced in this. We're given our perspective through everything we went through. If you know something we don't know, reach out to us. We would like to hear from you. Absolutely. Reno, I think it was, I think it was an interesting topic that we went on to sugar and relationships and because a lot of people don't understand that those are forms of addictions.
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Yeah. Yeah. And really, you know, I'd like what you had to say to, you know, that codependency, you know, I think it propagates those addictions.
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And I agree with that 100%. I can see that. With that being said, we want to say we are on the radio every Saturday from 2 to 2.30. Again, we're at KLZ 560 AM. You can always reach us at 303-477-5600. Let's go around the room. One other thing, boys, tell us what y'all think was something, a way to get people after addiction. What's one thing you would tell them? If they walked into the room right now, what would you say, Arena?
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I don't know. There's a lot of, what are they addicted to?
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What's an encouraging word you would tell them, though?
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Don't give up.
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Exactly. I would say the same thing, too, and just know you're never alone. There's more people that are fighting an addiction than they realize, you know, and sometimes just knowing that's huge.
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What would you say, Brian?
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I would say first confining somebody that you hold true, your mom, your parents, and you got to just be real with yourself and let people know what's going on instead of keeping it to yourself.
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If you are in a crisis or you need some kind of help, remember, you know, you always want to dial 911 or just text 988. And like we said, we're a bunch of men, homegrown American boys. And we would like to thank our listeners today. Thank America. And God bless all of us. God bless.
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I just hope I can explain What it's like to be a man It's a lonely road And they don't care about what you know It's not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
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In today’s episode, we sit down with William Forstian to explore the grim realities and potential consequences of an EMP attack. From the collapse of utilities to social chaos, we break down how a single event could endanger millions. We also discuss the importance of preparedness and how individuals, communities, and governments can better respond to such crises by drawing insights from Forstian's critically acclaimed literature.
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This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now. Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush.
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All right, and it is Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening. As always, live program today on January the 31st, last day of the month. We've got a very special guest joining us today. He's been with us in the past, by the way. William Forstian joining us now. Bill, welcome back. How are you, sir? Oh, it's always a pleasure to be with you guys. Doing well. It's been too long since we've had you, and I was thinking about you the other day, and then something came into my inbox, and I'm like, perfect timing, let's do this. For those of you listening and maybe haven't heard us talk about, you know, have talked with Bill in the past, if you haven't, he is the author of lots of books, but specifically when it comes to our program here, Ready Radio, one second after, one year after, the final day of And five years after, and yes, I've read all of those. And for those of you listening, they are fabulous books. And Bill, you know my thoughts on those. They're great. You did a great job, and I enjoy it. I've read them more than once just because of how good they are. Oh, my gosh. Thank you for the compliment. They're great. And, again, I mean that sincerely for all of you listening. The style is great. The action in them is great. And, Bill, we'll talk a lot about this today, but I think your insight and a lot of what you did to even write those, which really – Let's start there because there's a lot of folks listening that think, okay, yeah, well, Bill's just an author. Okay, well, that's great. What's this got to do with preparedness and making sure you're ready for those what-ifs of life and or that maybe final catastrophe that might come upon the globe? What gives you the insight into that? Well, and I'll let you answer that because actually a lot of things.
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Okay, where do you want me to start? How about if I define EMP and what I write about? Let's do it. Okay. I've written four books on the issue of EMP. EMP, shorthand for electromagnetic pulse weapon. It's created by detonating a small nuclear warhead, about 40 to 60 kiloton, about four or five times the size of the Hiroshima bomb. You detonate it out in space, about 200 to 250 miles up, It sets up an electrostatic discharge called the Compton effect, cascades down to the Earth's surface, and then from there, all the millions of miles of wiring we have out there become an antenna, feeds that electrostatic discharge into the antennas, and then blows out the power grid. And literally one second after, we start losing the power grid of the United States. Worst case scenario would be somebody like North Korea launching three of these, Eastern, Central, and Western United States. Congressional studies, two of them now, have shown if this was ever done to us, 80 to 90 percent of the population would be dead within a year.
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Yeah. And I think you and I have even talked, and you've mentioned before, and I think you're maybe off a little bit even, a third of the population is gone in 30 days, right? Right. Yes.
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Well, for example, we had that horrible tragedy in D.C. two days ago. 67 people died tragically. Well, there's about 5,000 commercial aircraft over the United States at any time about this time of day. Most of them, when this Compton effect hits them, the electronics on board will start shorting off. And, well... Basically, you're going to have a couple thousand planes that become flying bricks. They go into the ground within the first seconds. 50,000 dead right there to start.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think one of the misconceptions, Bill, is that, well, haven't we hardened all of these things? Don't we have things in place to make sure that if something like that were to happen, and we'll even get into some of the solar flare CME things as well, Bill, but I think a lot of people have this thought or this idea that, well, yeah, we've known about some of these things, so aren't we protected against those things? I wish.
SPEAKER 07 :
This was first realized in 1962 in a test called Starship Prime, where we launched a weapon into space, blew it, and it shorted out the Hawaiian power grid 500 miles away. And there was an oh-my-God moment from that. But have we done much? You know, the average component in our electrical grid, according to DOE, is 30 to 40 years old. We're pumping our electricity on an antiquated grid to start with, It has not been upgraded to try and resist this type of situation.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and for those that – a lot of you that are listening believe everything we're saying and have no problem with this. Some of you maybe that are tuning in the first time haven't heard us before. We talk about all things to be prepared for regardless of what happens in life. We're now talking about those things that might shut down the entire electric grid, which if that happened and we went without electricity, where the majority of people are used to having that on a daily basis to, by the way, live. And we'll get into some of that as well, Bill. Yeah. For those of you listening, just drive around. You know, here in Colorado, we're actually a younger state, if you would, Bill. Now, that doesn't mean that we don't have electricity and all of those things. But my point is we probably have a little bit newer grid and we've got newer sections of town, newer subdivisions and so on. So there's areas of our you know, of our state where things are newer, although. There are areas where when you drive around and look at some of the infrastructure and some of the substations and some of the transformers, you're like, wait a minute, that thing's probably as old as I am.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, people will question, well, what do you mean by 80 to 90 percent are gone? Well, look at it this way. Let's say you're in Denver, correct? Correct. That's right. You lose your electricity instantly. You lose your water pumping capability. Correct. You're without water. Second, command and control. What happens when the bad guys realize the power is off and it's time to have some fun? Anarchy. Third, food. The average community has about 20 to 25 days' worth of food on hand, from what's in the supermarket to what's in your fridge. But you need refrigeration to make sure that food is okay. Right. Medication, etc., etc., etc., and it starts cascading into a major disaster.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And really quick, Bill, along those lines, too, people need to remember that by design, Bill, we have become a just-in-time delivery nation pretty much in every area from not only manufacturing but the food we consume, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, when my father was in a nursing home some years back and fighting at the last months of his life, That was just in time delivery. They called me up one day and said, Bill, you've got to pay another $4,000 for the delivery that's coming in today. Nursing homes and all that, they usually only keep one or two days' work on hand because they don't want the druggies to be knocking them off.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. You know what? Great point. And that's where, again, a lot of – again, we forget about those things. We're so used to – I think, Bill, especially those that don't think about some of these things and, again, not trying to be critical at all. This program is designed to help everyone come along and understand more of what goes on in the world around them. And the reality, Bill, is we get so used to it. And if we're not careful, we can catch ourselves doing this very same thing. But, you know, if you want something, you know, we're so used in this country to just running down to the local whatever. Now, granted, there's some people that live out in rural areas where it's more of a chore and a journey. They've got to go to town, have their list and so on. But most of the people live in the suburbs and in major cities. Bill, if they need something, they run down and buy it. It's on the shelf. They grab it. And oh, by the way, if that store doesn't have it, OK, we'll run down the street a mile or so away and that one will have it. I mean, the reality is everybody's used to picking up something that they need at a moment's notice without even having to worry about stocking it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, I was caught up short myself. I'm just outside of Asheville, North Carolina. I'm ground zero of where the hurricane hit and which only a week ago, 10,000 people were still living in tents and shelters. Right. And I was caught short. And two days later, I'm standing on the line for water, you know. It's called expectation and normalcy. Work yesterday, work today, we'll work tomorrow. Well, in my case, it didn't. I had to go out and hustle for water and such. Now, that was fine because water was being shipped in from other locations. But suppose no water is getting shipped in, then what?
SPEAKER 09 :
And in the situation that we're discussing here, and again, we'll get into some of the other variations of this because it doesn't have to just be a nuclear warhead that causes this, by the way. Bottom line is when you take the entire power grid out. And, Bill, as you know, that affects, I don't think people really think about this, but it affects everything from the heat in our home to the delivery of supplies to being able to pump fuel into your car, which will get into the car end of things because most of those won't run anyways. But we can go down the list. The reality, Bill, is there's so many things that we rely on on a daily basis that, let's face it, because of the great invention of electricity, we have access to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, just one example. I was without power for about 30 days. And without water, I was able to go, how do I flush my toilet? Am I going to take five gallons of water from, you know, the water supply I got, et cetera, et cetera. Now, I did have stockpiled food, but a heck of a lot of other things. At the end of 30 days, the important thing here is it was a crew from Canada that hooked me back up in North Carolina. Crews came in from all over the United States to help us rebuild. and a major major disaster they're not going to come from anywhere else everybody is on their own
SPEAKER 09 :
You are correct in that. And one thing, since we talked last, because one of the conversations you and I had, I believe probably one of the last conversations we had when we last talked, we were talking about water treatment plants and what happens with the sewer and do things back up and so on. And oddly enough, or maybe because of this program and people listening, I actually got a chance to interview an individual that actually works at treatment plants bill and in that particular case you and i are pretty much dead on yes they have some generation there to where they could handle some things for you know a few days but as you know when the delivery system of even that and or are they hardened and if they're not hardened they don't have any capacity to even fire anything up but let's say they're hardened and they have that part of it figured out and that's all dialed in the reality is there's still a limited amount of fuel and so on and the reality of the individual that i talked to is at best at best with the fuel they would have on hand and so on, and that depends on if it's natural gas-driven or if it's diesel-driven, but realistically about 30 days max to even be able to handle the treatment. And that's if everybody hangs around the plant. That's if people don't leave to go take care of their own things, their own families, and so on. So bottom line, Bill, what we were talking about with things backing up, if you are on regular municipality service, You'd probably be thinking about how do I close my main line? Because if you're closest to the plant, it will start backing up from there first and then going, of course, upward. Because, you know, as you know, Bill, crap runs downhill. So bottom line is, yes, you and I were correct. And none of that really gets talked about much when it comes to end of the world scenarios in this relation when the power goes out. Yeah, there is a limited time to how long water down the sewer pipes is even going to run.
SPEAKER 07 :
And beyond that, okay, you lose the power of the water treatment plant that backs up. What do they finally do? They open the valves and let it go into the river. Goes in the streams. Which means most of the rivers within the United States will be a great way for you to catch salmonella or something worse within a matter of days.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you won't be drinking out of those is the point, meaning you better figure out other ways to have, you know, fresh water, drinking water. And, again, these are things that, you know, we have talked about. Back to the books, though, really quick, Bill. You do a great job in the books of talking about a lot of these things and going through these processes and taking individual characters along the route and what happens. And I've said this before to you and in your books and for everybody listening, Bill, you're really kind because I think in a lot of cases, things go haywire probably faster than what you even wrote in the book. And you're very gracious as far as that goes, because I don't have the same faith in humanity you do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's maybe one of the advantages of living in a small town in the mountains in North Carolina. I've got a lot of good neighbors and a good community. And the community in this crisis that started on September 27th did pull together. And I found worked pretty well together. Now, the city of Asheville was completely shut down on water for almost two months.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I'm told it started getting hairy. People stealing each other's water supply. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, in other words, a lot of what you wrote in the book, in a lot of ways, you experienced on that level, not because of the power going out, but because of a natural disaster.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it started getting to me. Every person I ran into was like, hey, Bill, this is just like your book. And it's about a week or two that I was like, shut up. Leave me alone.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm laughing with you, not at you, because, yeah, I can imagine how that would go. People are probably thinking, yeah, way to go, pal. Thanks for writing about all this stuff. And how much food do I have in my basement?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm not going to tell you.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, for all of you listening, you know why we do this program. We've been doing it now several years. We take this time on Fridays from 2 to 3 to really talk about things that you need to do to be prepared, to Bill's point, not just for an end-of-the-world type scenario with an EMP that would strike the country and take the power grid out, but this is even natural disasters in Colorado. We can have everything from floods to snowstorms to tornadoes and things along those lines. And, Bill, again, to your point, you just never know what's coming, so be prepared. Really quick, too, one of the things I was talking to somebody else about this today, another good friend of mine named Bill, we were talking, and I don't know whether I'm more fearful of... a solar flare, which we'll talk about, an EMP, which we just described, or, Bill, even the reality of other foreign entities that really would love to see the United States of America be crippled and the cyber security, the cyber attack end of things, because the reality is we're just as vulnerable there as we are on the EMP side. Am I right or wrong?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, my college, Monterey College, to throw the advertisement in, We have an excellent cybersecurity program. We're working with NSA and others now. We've got about 110 kids in the program. Every once in a while, I'll just go and sit in one of their labs and just watch and ask a couple questions. It's happening all the time. The black hats are hitting us all the time, and occasionally they get through. Yep. Yeah. There's a lot of entities out there that would love to cripple part or all of the United States.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I don't need to remind folks with what we've got going on with different agencies and that right now, Bill, maybe some of these things will actually get fixed and solved. We are still running certain departments in the United States government, and this is not an exaggeration, from hardware and in some cases software that was written and or designed back in the 60s. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Air traffic control is one of them. Unbelievable. Their system is antiquated. Very antiquated. I'm a pilot. And so part of my pilot training at one point was to sit in a couple of control towers and just watch them work. And these guys were saying, yeah, this stuff is 20, 30 years old.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. That I did not know. I knew that there were other departments, IRS, by the way, being one of them, to where they are still using very antiquated tools, if you would, hardware, software to do the things that they do. I did not realize that was true when it came to the air traffic control. It doesn't surprise me because government has a tendency to just keep doing things the same way over and over again, even if there's a better way to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Absolutely, yes. And it was scary. I mean, like I said, I'm a pilot. Now, I flew in uncontrolled airspace, so I had a small plane. I just would fool around. Like hell did I want to ever become a commercial pilot, you know?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's scary to me. I think what we saw happen a few days ago reiterates what you just said, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mm hmm. Yes. Tragically, I'm hoping the well, the current administration is going to be addressing this. I believe you are correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, can you stay with us? I need to take a break. Can you hang around this bill? Absolutely. And the guys will we will be back. And again, if you want to buy any of the books, I recommend read them all. And I mean that sincerely. A lot of insightful information. into the things that we're even talking about right now. I personally have learned a ton in reading those books, and it changed some things that we do, even as a family and that. So I would very much encourage you to go out and Bill and read Bill's books. And by the way, there's a lot more than just, you know, this sort of end of the world scenario. Bill's written a gazillion books. And I don't mean that. And I mean, that don't don't take that lightly. I mean, there's a lot of books that he has written. He's done a lot of great work over the years. But one second after, one year after the final day, and five years after. We'll be right back. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Ready Radio, KLZ 560. Again, don't forget our website, ready-radio.com. William Forstian with us today, and his last name is spelled F-O-R-S-T-C-H-E-N. And Bill, for the books, what's the best place for folks to actually go and buy those? Do you have a single website you like people to go to? Amazon, what's best?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, it's easy to say Amazon. So, you know, better books sold here and go to Amazon or almost any bookstore should have them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. All right. Before we move on, because, again, I think a lot of folks don't understand the fact that, naturally speaking, what we just talked about in regards to, you know, an EMP nuclear, you know, weapon going off, you know, way out in outer space and so on, which you just described as we were opening up the program, there's a natural way that that happens as well, correct? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
coronal mass ejection, CME. The big one happened in 1859 where a solar flare was so intense that it blew out the Victorian internet. Telegraphy stations, the batteries were catching on fire. In fact, railroad ties were smoldering and catching on fire from the electricity feeding through the iron rails wow amazing so dumb question on my part what makes us think we're immune from that again we're not uh we've been lucky uh the a number of times this type of thing happens We don't have any real estimate. The last big one was 1859. There was one that hit Quebec in the late 1980s. It could be another 500 years before there's another one, or it could be tomorrow.
SPEAKER 09 :
And really quick, we saw a lot of that activity this past summer, and there weren't major, major disruptions, but there were things happening that had some things changed ever so slightly in space, we could have had bigger problems.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, the Northern Lights are an indicator of a major CME, and I know last summer we were seeing Northern Lights as far down as North Carolina. That's right. I assume you were seeing them over in Colorado.
SPEAKER 09 :
We were, absolutely, yes. That was kind of where I'm going with this. It's like, guys, yeah, never say never because, you know, we weren't that far from it not that long ago. No, and...
SPEAKER 07 :
We don't know when it's going to happen again. We just simply know it will happen again.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, let's talk transportation for a moment. That's my area of expertise. And for a lot of you listening, and these are things that I have had lengthy discussions, Bill, on. I've got four programs. One, we have a call-in car talk show, and I've had this conversation even on that program. And there is all sorts, literally, of varying opinions on what will run and what won't run. And I personally... And I grew up in that industry and know how many computers anymore on each individual vehicle for the past decade plus. In fact, the majority of vehicles on the road are running on more than one computer, by the way. There's a multitude. It's a CAN bus system, they call it. It's like a little network in your home, if you would, only it's inside of your vehicle. So, by the way, even if the main computer in your car is somehow protected. Trust me, the rest of them are not. And they are all feeding, as Bill talked about, those wires are all going back to the main ECU. So the reality is, Bill, is even if the main computer in the car is somehow shielded and protected, and some of them are because they put them under the engine, you know, they put them in the engine compartment and places like that. But the reality is all of the rest of those quote unquote antennas are still feeding back to it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, government work at its best. It was about 20 years ago, the government decided to take a look at how would EMP or CME affect automobiles. So they got 50 cars, they took them out to a test stand, and they started increasing the amount of electromagnetic pulse disturbances. And so they went until they finally got to the point where two or three of the cars suddenly wouldn't start anymore, at which point they stopped doing the study because they had to return all the cars back to a rental agency.
SPEAKER 09 :
And they couldn't afford all of the repairs and what have you if they kept going.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So we never got a definitive answer. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Meaning for a lot of you that are listening, there's again, there are some that think that this is overblown and that a lot of vehicles will actually run. And I will again, being a car person and growing up in that world and knowing how many different computers and things that are on. vehicles today, and by the way, modern vehicles, I mean, I'm talking vehicles built in the last 10 years, they communicate so much with one another that in some cases, even if the body control module goes out, which in some cases, under the dash, under the seat, it still doesn't run, work, and operate the way that it's supposed to. So bottom line, there are so many other things going on on modern vehicles that I'll just say, good luck. I just don't see those running. I really feel like you've got to go all the way back to non- module vehicles, meaning they're probably going to have to run on points in a condenser in a regular ignition system. Otherwise, I don't see them running. 1960s cars. Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, I was talking a while back with a station, and we talked about what's the probability with cars. I've heard low probability that about 10 to 20 percent of vehicles would be affected in a major CMA. And my host initially was saying, well, you know, that wouldn't be too bad. What? And I said, yeah. what's the major interstate highway going through Denver?
SPEAKER 09 :
We have I-70 and I-25 as a crossroads.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, right there. 10% of the cars short off. What happens to the other 90%?
SPEAKER 09 :
You're stuck because you can't get around those. Right, exactly. And by the way, and I don't know where they're coming up with those numbers because, again, being somebody that's been in that industry literally almost my entire life, from the time I was a little boy, I can remember being around cars and being taught how to work on them and do all the different things, owned auto shops for 30 years. Bill, again, I don't know where that 20% number is coming from because I know how they're built. I know how they work. I know where a lot of these quote-unquote modules are put. There are some out there that think, well, it's a metal vehicle, and there's kind of a Faraday box with it, and it's got rubber tires. Yeah, no, it's really not that well insulated, not that well done, especially in today's world, Bill, where you've got all sorts of other composites even on the vehicle shell itself to where most of them are not even full metal all the way around anymore. Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it's great talking with a host like you because you know what I'm talking about. We don't have to go through 10 minutes, oh, this could happen or that can happen. Anything made after the mid-60s, problematic. Anything made within the last 15 years or so, definite.
SPEAKER 09 :
And don't forget, folks, this includes a lot of other things that we get used to having on a daily basis to live our lives. And I understand, and for the most part, in the studying that I've done, Bill, cell phones are somewhat hardened, but the rest of what they operate off of, the networks, the the GPS system, what's up in space and the satellites and so on. Yeah, it may work, but it'll be a brick. It'll just be a paperweight when it's all done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yet again, we'll harken back to the minor disaster that I went through in North Carolina. Well, the cell phone towers went down as well. No electricity and everything else, and some were actually knocked down in the storm. People really got squirrely after one or two days of no cell phone. Hmm. I can remember when mine clicked back on, I was like, oh, God, the cell phone is working. Yeah. I went out to my car to charge it back up again.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and that's a whole other thing, too. It's like, okay, well, if it works and you've even got the ability to pull some notes or data or different things that you may have saved on it, okay, great. You still need a way to keep that charged up. And just because you have a little solar charger, if you've not protected it – and this is the biggest debate that I've heard, Bill, and one that I don't know that anybody's got any – any direct answers on, and that is even those folks that have solar panels and they've done what it takes to be off-grid with them because solar panels in general, unless you've got a battery backup system, the minute the grid goes out, so does the solar panel system. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, there are several panel manufacturers who claim we are EMP proof. I don't know about that. There's only one way to really test it, and I don't want to go through the testing.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I guess common sense, I'm thinking, okay, how have you made this EMP proof? Unless you've somehow shielded everything or you've got some sort of a device on there that is immediately shunting everything to ground, which I have a hard time believing, honestly, Bill, because of the cost that they've actually gone through. and done that, because my thought process would be every single panel then jumps up in price, and those guys are on a race to the bottom as far as prices go. I'm sorry, I just don't see that.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, it's why, maybe to harken back to something a little bit earlier, it's why when I'm talking with people in groups or radio or whatever, everybody should be prepared at minimum to start to be able to survive for a month or two on your own. Right. Because right there, just even going walking downtown to get more water or milk or whatever. And. Things in downtown might not be all that nice after a day or two, particularly in a large city. Everybody should be prepared for at least a month or two to start.
SPEAKER 09 :
And this will probably, for a lot of you listening and even you, Bill, I'll see if you've got the answer to this, because I didn't. I was... way off now keep in mind this is a great listener by the way sent me a video of a couple of guys over in london they decided to start walking tying themselves for 24 hours straight to see how far they could actually go so keep in mind 24 hours and they've got very light packs on and they're walking in a very undistressed situation meaning they can walk on the street the sidewalks the parks wherever they would like to go how far do you think in 24 hours they were able to walk 15 miles max. That's what I thought, too. I thought 15, 20. These guys actually went almost 50, 46 miles. Now, these are younger guys, lanky, not overweight, able to probably put on some miles because of all of that. Now, they had said, listen, you know, we're not in shape. We don't go to the gym every day and so on. But these are guys in probably their late 20s, early 30s. You could tell from looking at them they're not out of shape. Maybe they're not in the best of shape. But now I will also say this. They did that not sleeping. They were extremely tired. They said everything, every bone in their body hurt by the time they got to the 24-hour mark. They were spent. I guarantee you those guys went home and probably slept for the next two days because they were spent doing that. Point being, if you did a regular pace trying to get someplace, I think, and I had said, you know, between 16 to 20 miles on average is about all somebody's going to do. And that's if you're in really great shape, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, in my first book on this topic, One Second After, one of the characters is the town doctor. And only 24 hours in, he's already overloaded with cases. Right. Heart attacks. Right. A person puts an ax through their leg because they decided to try and split some wood, and they haven't done it in 15 years. All sorts of things. And just to go on something for a couple seconds here, I remember interviewing my pharmacist. Okay. at the end of an hour, she actually broke down crying. She said, Bill, it would be a total disaster. What about cancer patients for medication? What about pancreatic enzyme disorder? Something I had never thought of before. About 1% of the population are on some sort of antipsychotic medication, and about 20 to 25% are on mood-altering drugs. All of that is gone.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. And you wrote about this even in the book. There's also folks that are on insulin that There's a limited supply of that. And then think about also, Bill, you know, just everything from blood pressure medicine to you name it. I mean, you start going down the list of things that people have to take every day to survive. And by the way, those of you listening, if you are somebody that requires some of those things, I think just as a rule of thumb, I would be adding to my inventory any way you can. And I know some things have shelf life, but I've learned also, Bill, through other interviews, even since we talked, I've interviewed some other folks. Most prescriptions... Unless it's like insulin or something along those lines. But most prescriptions, if they are unopened, literally have like a 20-year shelf life. Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the problem, though, is getting authorization for some of them. That's right. Absolutely, yes. And we all do it. I know a couple weeks back I had a medication that I do need. I suddenly realized I only had two or three pills left. Expectation and normalcy. Well, I'll go to the pharmacist tomorrow. Right. And get it refilled.
SPEAKER 09 :
We all do it. Adjust in time delivery again. We do it with our gas tanks. We do it with that. We do it with what's in the fridge. And we're all, myself included, we're all guilty of that. Although my wife makes fun of me because I have this syndrome called fear of running out. And it's real. I love the syndrome. And so I literally am one of those where if we start to get a little bit low on something, I'm asking the question, okay, where's the next one at? Because I hate that. I don't know. I guess, Bill, for me, I just hate that feeling of I'm out of something. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And we have to condition ourselves to be a little bit more aware of that. Because like I said, I mean, it was a medication I do need. Okay, I'm in my 70s. What's my probability of surviving a year of With this, very low. No matter how well-prepared I am. There's just too many parameters there that at the age of 74, I'm not going to be able to cope with.
SPEAKER 09 :
Point being, if this stuff actually ends up happening, which, again, folks, we're not trying to scare anybody. This is simply information, getting people up to speed. These are things that can happen. And I also am one that believes that, you know, the further down this road we get, the more apt we are to have some of these things happen. I'm sorry, Bill. I just especially when it comes to some of the cybersecurity ends of things, as you talked about in our last segment, the reality is there are a lot of countries out there that would love to see us fail.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's why I'm so supportive now of the current administration. They've been talking about the Iron Dome. The Iron Dome is the system Israel has for tactical incoming missiles. But they're talking about Iron Dome for the United States. I pray to heaven Iron Dome means we're going to have to go back to a strategic defense initiative. When it was conceived 40 years ago. The technology wasn't there. The technology is definitely there now to protect the United States.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And we have got to make a – how should I say this, Bill? We have to prioritize correctly the things that we want to do to keep this country safe – And I will tell you right now, and most people know where I stand on this, instead of feeding money into people that have EBT cards and are on the system that shouldn't be, that actually should be working and contributing, we should be doing those things you just mentioned.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. We have to prepare ourselves. And this is several things. One, a robust foreign policy that says North Korea in particular and Iran don't even think it. Because if you think it, we will take you out first. Yep. and then the technology for an anti-missile defense system, and then upgrading our internal structure. Yep. Yep. Okay. The average component, I said, is 30, 40 years old. But to get major components repaired, say brand-new transformers for a substation, takes sometimes two to three years. And guess who makes them?
SPEAKER 09 :
China. You got it. That's our other problem. Those are some of the things that we definitely have got to bring home. We have the ability, as you know, Bill, to manufacture those things here. We've offshored those things simply because of cost or whatever you want to call it. And by the way, now with the advancement of... you know, AI and robotics and things like that, the ability to bring some of those things back here and manufacture them on a level that we can compete with the rest of the world on, I believe firmly we can. I realize that takes time. I know that's not an overnight thing. But, Bill, we've got to start at some point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, the analogy I give on that, let's say it's December the 8th, 1941, President's meeting with Joint Chiefs of Staff. And the head of the Navy says, sir, we've got a problem. All our aircraft carriers are made in Japan. And then the Army says, all our airplanes are made in Germany. That's the problems we are facing today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, great point. It really is. No, it's a great point. And already, for all of you listening, and some of you are watching this and know what I mean, and we have listeners, Bill, from all sides of the spectrum, aisle, age, et cetera. And what I'm going to say here is we've already seen – this was interesting a couple of days ago. I saw an announcement from Volkswagen Porsche Audi. where they're like, hey, we're going to get ahead of some of these proposed tariffs that probably are going to come down the pike at some point. We're going to go ahead and look at building Porsches, for example, which have never been done in this country. We're going to go ahead and look at doing something like that in the United States of America, where we can actually build those vehicles there and avoid what might be some of these tariffs coming in on down the road. Point being, if they're seeing this coming, why can't we?
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Think of the number of jobs in the United States that would come back in the Rust Belt and elsewhere. If we're manufacturing things like electrical components, cars, whatever. Upgraded solar panels that maybe could resist something. better electrical distribution systems that could be upgraded. All these could be American jobs. Correct. For the first time in decades.
SPEAKER 09 :
Correct. And, you know, I've interviewed a lot of other folks on my daily program, too, Bill, when it comes to, you know, the STEM end of things and the education that we are not, by the way, putting into our young people. We're importing a lot of those STEM jobs right now, and that's another one of those trends that we need to reverse because we need our own learning those things, not folks that we're importing in from other countries.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, remember, I'm a college professor. So, yeah, we definitely need our education systems as well. Yeah, because the kids I get in, they're great students, but they don't know Jack when it comes to history like. Who do we fight against in World War II? Who was on our side? Right. You know, which president did what? Kids don't know it because they're not taught it anymore.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, they're not. Unfortunately, they are not. Yeah. And to your point, we've got to get back to the basics, which, again, for all of you listening, that's what we do here every Friday when it comes to some of these, you know, end of the world type, you know, scenarios. And I say end of the world. Well... And I'm not trying to, again, Bill, I'm not trying to scare people, but turn the electricity off. Turn the lights off for an extended period of time. And we're like back in the dark ages. It is a completely different world that we live in.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what got to me the first couple of nights after the disaster hit here? How quiet it all was. Yeah. Except for all the sirens. The sirens were going constantly because hundreds of people were stranded. A couple hundred people died and such. It was so darn quiet. But after a while, it started getting to me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Well, because you're used to the other. And in our world, in our minds, we know what that quiet means. Things aren't working like they should be. That's exactly it. And again, for all of you listening, please do what you can. And I know for everybody out there that's listening today, It's a little different for each person. It's not a one-size-fits-all. It may be a little bit different for your family. Some can go to larger extremes to make things happen. Some of you have the ability to put in a hardened generator into your home and things along those lines. But remember, too, that while you're hooked up to the grid and these things are happening, you may very well have things even inside of your own home that will not work afterwards. You have to be really selective on, okay, am I going to keep a spare X someplace so that if something were to go awry and I fire up my own hardened generator, I'm still able to get back online. For example, Bill, I'm thinking of myself even. So my house is heated with hot water. I've got a hot water heat system. So there's a boiler that heats the water that heats the floors and so on. And There we go. Well, as you know, that's all computerized now because it knows what is being called for. Am I heating water for the faucet or am I heating water to make sure we have heat? The boiler is smart. It knows those things. Well, you and I both know that if what happens, what we're talking about with a solar flare, a CME and or an EMP goes off, that board's no good anymore. It's done. It's gone. It's gone.
SPEAKER 07 :
Again, and I've said it three or four times now on this show today, expectation and normalcy. Worked yesterday, it's going to work tomorrow. Try to think outside the box. Suppose it doesn't work. How do I deal with this? How do I prepare for it? How do I take care of my family?
SPEAKER 09 :
And for all of you listening, there's probably, Bill, a few old furnaces and boilers maybe out there running around. But let's face it, those things have been electronicized, if you would. They've been running electronically with boards and computers and smart systems and so on, high efficiency, you could say. Those things have been converted over for the past probably, I don't think I'm exaggerating, Bill, three-plus decades? More than that, even. By the 60s. It was starting to come in even in the 60s. True. Good point. No, you're right. Good point. Even ovens and things like that were starting to get computerized at that point in time.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, for example, I basically heat my house with wood, but I said, I'm 74. I don't go out and split a couple cord of wood. I have to have somebody do it for me now, and I have to pay it. But they're not going to be there the day after something like this happens.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, and I think one of these things that you write in your books, and I've read other authors do the same thing, and the one thing that you guys are all in agreement on, by the way, is the systems that we have in place for fire, rescue, ambulance, and all of that. While that's great right now and it works well in a lot of cases, not always because you experienced that recently, Bill, but in most cases it works pretty well. But in an event like what we're talking about today, You know, with maybe the rare exception of a single person that has no responsibilities, no family, no whatever, they might stick around and do some things along those lines. But, Bill, the rest of them are jumping ship to go take care of their own family.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I interviewed a lot of people on this book. For example, Chief of Police, who's a friend of mine, back when I wrote the first book, Watch Second After, presented the scenario to him. And I said, OK, Jack, what do you do? He actually started to pick up the phone. And he said, oh, blank. The phone doesn't work. How do I reach my people? You figure it out. The radio doesn't work. Or going to the nursing home. That was a heartbreak of how would a nursing home work? For example, Alzheimer patients, they'll wear a little ankle monitor that will set off an alarm if they try and go outside. Well, during this hurricane, the nursing homes here, half the staff wasn't showing up. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Yeah, and part of that's because they've got their own things to take care of.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Am I going to take care of my kids, or am I going to drive? 20 miles. Right. You take care of your kids.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah. And again, by the way, everything I said a moment ago for all of you listening, you as well, Bill, I'm not faulting any of those emergency responders. The reality is I would be doing the same thing. You're going to take care of you and your family first and everything else will come second. If you can somehow get that done and maybe coincide that with your other job, the one that you used to have, by the way, which probably isn't even going to be there moving forward. And some people will still be in some places of, you know, leadership and authority and things like that. But it will change dramatically to the point that, as you said earlier, even number one, the population side, you know, the population side of things decreases overnight.
SPEAKER 07 :
It decreases radically in very short order. And that's the scary part of this scenario. Example, you know, gastrointestinal disease is All right. Five to seven days. That's going to start kicking in from polluted water and other situations. True. Well, even now, you know, we're used to, OK, get the medication, whatever. What are you going to do when a majority of people or a significant proportion have particular things that start hitting them? They'll start dying. Right. And again, yeah, me at 74, I'd most likely die, you know, from sort of disease within the first couple of months.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. No, you're not wrong, Bill. You really aren't. And these are things that a lot of us have to think through. Again, not in a fearful, morbid type fashion, but just in a, hey, let's be prepared. Whatever we can possibly do, let's make that happen. All right. Before we close out, question for you, given what you just went through back in North Carolina, what would you change moving forward? What would I change?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the big thing is I got a better president, and now he's going to start addressing it. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'll give you that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. That's the big thing. Secondly is a public awareness of the need for Iron Dome, protect the United States, upgrade our electrical grid. Teach people how to deal with this situation. The old line from the Boy Scouts, be prepared. Everybody should be prepared.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you're in an area where I think a lot of people, you know, the perception of the rest of Americans were, wait a minute, these folks are, you know, these are people that live that way on a regular basis. They know how to care for themselves. If there's any part of the country that can do this, it's them. And yet we still saw that devastation.
SPEAKER 07 :
As I mentioned, until Trump arrived here, his very first visit out was here. About 10,000 people were still basically homeless, and that's four months after the storm.
SPEAKER 09 :
Unbelievable. Okay, not to get off on another tangent, but that stuff didn't make the news. We knew it. I talked about some of that here on this program, but that wasn't making national news.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it wasn't because... In contrast, L.A. is a media hub. Right. Over a bunch of million-dollar homes. We're talking about small mountain communities here, people living in double watch. Yeah, made the news for two or three days, and then it was forgotten. And people here really did feel forgotten until Trump showed up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, good for him. And you know my feelings on all of that and where I was long before we got him elected. You know where I was on all of that and where I stood. And, yes, there will be many a change come moving forward, and that includes not only what he's doing but a lot of the folks that he's even – some of the confirmations that are even going on right now, the people that he wants to see alongside him handle these things. It is a big change around from what we've been used to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, there's an old saying that God looks out for drunks, fools in the United States of America. We definitely need some looking out for from God now.
SPEAKER 09 :
Amen. Amen. You know what, Bill? Always a joy when I saw your name come up in my inbox, and I was like, absolutely, got to get you back. It's been far too long, and we'll have to do this again sooner than later because it's always a joy. It's a pleasure.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, yeah, I saw your name come up as well, and it's like, great.
SPEAKER 09 :
I love these guys. All right, awesome. Well, Bill, thank you very much. And you know what? Tell all the rest of the folks that are around you that we are praying for them. We're on their side, and we're happy that, you know, Trump is there now trying to help get some things handled. Thank you, and maybe I'll close with, be prepared. Hey, we will. Thank you, Bill. Appreciate you very much. Again, that is William Forstchen, F-O-R-S-T-C-H-E-N, and I've read all of his books. They are absolutely fabulous. One second after. one year after, the final day, and five years after. And I will tell you that every one of those are fabulous books. I've got the audio books on all of them, and I will periodically re-listen to them because of just how good they are. He is a great writer, does a great job, and he has done a lot of things outside of that, besides the fact that he's an American historian and a professor of history, which you heard him talk about, but he's done a lot of other things with a lot of other great people.
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All right, that is it for Ready Radio. Got about a minute here left today. And again, please, and I'm not saying that just because Bill was on, but they are great books. They really are thought-provoking, getting you to think about, hey, what should I actually have on hand? What should I be looking at for some of these types of events that might come along? And as he was saying, even he, who is an author, who probably was looking more for an end-of-the-world type event to come along, but the hurricane then hit, and he ends up in the same boat as a lot of the things he was actually writing about. So it can happen to any of us at any time. And what I'm saying is his books are a really thought-provoking way of looking at some of those things, and I highly recommend you go buy those. Again, William.com. Again, folks, thank you so much for listening. Ready-radio.com is our website. Go check it out. And our next program is next. Don't go anywhere. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 07 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 18 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 05 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 10 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, welcome. Friday edition Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. You made it. I made it. We made it. Andy's here as well. Charlie Grimes, of course. And for a lot of you listening, you may already be getting ready to head home or you're getting close to. So congratulations. You made another week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, thank goodness.
SPEAKER 03 :
This was a different week, too, by the way, with all the stuff that went on in D.C. and just different things happening and all of that and confirmations and, and, and.
SPEAKER 06 :
Bernie with the onesies.
SPEAKER 03 :
What an idiot.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was hilarious. If there was one funniest moment from all the hearings, it had to be Bernie with the onesie. What a bozo.
SPEAKER 03 :
How does that guy get reelected?
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you support this onesie? I'm just like, are you out of your mind?
SPEAKER 03 :
What a bozo. And still wouldn't answer Kennedy when he said, Bernie, can you tell me how much you've taken from Big Pharma?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's about 1.2 million, I believe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Like 1.7. Oh, he's 1.7? Something like that, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so what's-her-name was 1.2.
SPEAKER 03 :
Big number. Okay. And Bernie would, oh, those are from individual donors. And RFK Jr. is like, yeah, no, it's not. No, it's not. Yeah, no, it's not. No, Bernie, no, it's not. And Bernie's last statement was something to the effect of, well, at least it's not $20 million or some dumb thing. He's like, Bernie, you got caught. You're red-handed, Bernie. Hang it up.
SPEAKER 06 :
All I know is I need to get a Bernie onesie. My life will not be complete until I get a Bernie onesie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy, every one of those people that were firing questions at some of the people this week, not just RFK Jr., but Tulsi and others. solidified my statements on Monday, and then you were here Tuesday as well. All they did was solidify my statements about how dumb politicians are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Literally. They are puppets and dumb as rocks at the same time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you got a lot of dumb ones, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
Literally.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, the thing that really got me, though, and watching both Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard, was the fury of... of the Democrats. And it just reminded me because they churned when they saw one of their own turn on them, right? One of their own go over to Trump, go over to the evil, the dark side.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Tulsi the same.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah. RFK and Tulsi, when they saw that they treated those two much worse than they treated virtually any of the others.
SPEAKER 03 :
Can't argue that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it was really kind of funny to see.
SPEAKER 03 :
Same thing's happening in Colorado with our own GOP.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Rhino Watch. Yeah, same deal. The second Lauren Boebert decided, okay, that's it. I can't take Dave Williams anymore. Dude is nuts. Let's face facts. And they put out that letter and they tear him apart. And you know about all this.
SPEAKER 03 :
I saw it. I read it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Rhino Watch tore into her with the most horrifying, disgusting... We can't read it on air.
SPEAKER 03 :
We can't read it on air. I won't read it on air. No, we can't. These are vile, mentally disturbed... Yes. Chuck and Julie, yes, I'm naming you all. These are mentally disturbed wackos.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are. They're mentally disturbed wackos. And it's just crazy because, like tomorrow, as you know, I'm running for chair in Arapahoe County. Eh, who knows? But the... The thing that gets me is I know that so many who support these people are going to be lining the pews to vote against me. And it's just like, you know, guys, can we just once put the party first?
SPEAKER 03 :
First of all, grow a brain. Think rationally, which is what this show is called, Rush to Reason. So think rationally about what's going on. Put some of those other things aside that you have been so bent over and look at where are we headed, what's next?
SPEAKER 06 :
John, they put out a comparison between the two slates. This is beautiful. They put out a comparison between the two slates and they had gone over hundreds of hours of tape of our show to listen to me to try to pull out of, and they pulled way out of context, pull out of context any quotes that I had that were like not pro-Trump or whatever. And, I mean, they totally lied about it, but what really blew my mind was, John, they had to have a team put together like hundreds of hours of time just to do this.
SPEAKER 03 :
There's nothing better to do?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think they did it with the state party. I don't know that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm just saying. There's nothing better to do, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
I just know that they're joined at the hip.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't have other fights. We don't have other things that we could be working on instead. No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 06 :
We should all be celebrating America first right now. Instead, we're doing this. But forget me. What really blew my mind was Boebert. The way Rhino Watch torn to Boebert reminded me exactly of the Democrats tearing into RFK.
SPEAKER 03 :
You are spot on, Andy. These are, like I said, these are mentally disturbed people. individuals, they are so bent on hate and anger and making sure that they can control power that they can't think straight.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
These are power-hungry, mentally ill wackos. I have no other way to say it. They're just – I don't get it. I really don't get it. I struggle, as you know, Andy, because we talk on Tuesdays as well. I struggle with people like that because it's like, okay, wait a minute, time out. I get everybody can get upset and get emotional. I've been emotional as well. I can get emotional. I get that. I understand that. On the same token, you have to step back at times and say, okay, timeout. Let's put all that aside. And where are we headed here? What are we trying to accomplish in Colorado? We've got several things going on right now down at the Golden Dome, including some very, very bad gun laws and things along those lines that are happening right now to where we ought to be all unified over that. We've got a huge election coming up in 2026 for a senator and a governor. And we've got to win some seats in Colorado to change what's happening right now at the Golden Dome here in Colorado. What's our plan of action to make that happen?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, they don't have one. They say they do, but they don't. They don't have a plan at all, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
But there is one. I haven't seen it.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Their plan is to spend tens and tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees to try to put off votes on the chair rather than simply holding the vote and then giving all that money to candidates. But then again, once again, up on the Hill. I mean, the Democrats tore into everybody, of course, but what they did with RFK, did you hear the anger?
SPEAKER 03 :
Did you hear the rage? Michael Bennett, our own Colorado Senator Michael Bennett, who, by the way, is a total doofus. That guy couldn't argue his way out of a wet paper bag. And he just attacked him with things that, frankly, aren't true. Basically called him a conspiracy theorist. You're nothing but a wacko, basically, is what Michael Bennett said. Michael? First of all, you tried to run for president and didn't even make it as far as RFK Jr.
SPEAKER 01 :
True.
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You had a major failure in that particular area because you can't talk. You can't debate. Unfortunately, because we as a party here can't get our act together, we couldn't beat him. And he was probably one of the most easily beatable senators, in my opinion, in the country. Yes. And we couldn't beat him.
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And by the way, it really blows my mind with him talking about other people being conspiracy theorists. I guarantee you he bought into the Russia hoax. Right. I guarantee you he bought into a lot of the hoaxes that have come out of the FBI that thankfully Kash Patel is going to, you know, let's face it, rip off the bandaid for all of us. These people, they'll buy into all these conspiracy theories and then accuse someone of RFK of it. It blew my mind.
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Well, they're eating their own, which is what our own Colorado GOP here wants to do to a lot of us, myself, Andy included. And the reality is I'm not backing down. I'm not giving up. I have been calling for the removal of Dave Williams for almost two years now, and I am not stopping because I said at that time I was on a mission, and I haven't stopped. I'm still on one.
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Oh, me too. Nothing changes for me tomorrow, win or lose. I'm still going to be right back here on Tuesday.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate, together with John Rush. And John, are you ready for a movie?
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Absolutely.
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All right, John. Well, John, I've always wanted to ask you this. Would you like to program your mate? Oh. I mean, what if you could take your wife, have her stand right there, and you could use one of these little keypads. That'd be weird. And change her any way you wanted. Would you want to do this, John?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
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Better say no, just saying, because you're on the radio.
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Because she's listening, so no.
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Okay, well, let's see if this is a good idea. Sundays, yes. Yeah. Mine actually does it with me, and I'm not sure how.
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I was going to say, in my case, it would be reverse. She would love to.
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You've come in totally changed many times.
SPEAKER 03 :
She would love to do that. Yes, Eddie.
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Okay. Well, let's find out if this is a good idea in the AI horror film, Companion.
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There have been two moments in my life when I was happiest. The first was the day I met Josh.
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I'm Josh.
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I'm Iris. And the second, the day I killed him. Just relax. Remember to smile and act happy.
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Do they know? Iris, wake up.
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Uh, what are you doing? Shut her down already. What is she talking about, Josh? This was not part of the plan. I didn't mean to.
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Did you jailbreak your sexpot?
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow, Josh. The days of you controlling me are over.
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Are you breaking up with me?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's not you. It's me.
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It's not you, it's me. So once again, John, I'm just advising you don't try this with your wife. Weird. Weird. Okay. Well, John, Iris, she has it made. She just met a great guy named Josh in the supermarket. They hit it off and romance blooms. Now she's off to join Josh for some party time at a mansion in the countryside and with some of his friends. Mansion in the countryside, cabin in the woods. That's what it feels like, right? These things all happen way out in the woods. Of course. But this is a mansion. But then Iris, and she's played by Sophie Thatcher, she learns the truth about herself. She's not a real woman. Iris is a sex bot, an AI marvel purchased by Josh. Josh is played by young Jack Quaid. By the way, he's in a lot of stuff. He's very good. Now, she's got memories, though. She remembers their meeting and all this. Well, those were selected from menus by Josh. She has tears. Nope. Those come from reservoirs inside her. Iris is programmed to love whoever imprints on her, and that happens to be Josh. I'm sorry, Jack.
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Okay.
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Jack. Josh. Yes, Josh. Played by Jack Quaid. There we go. Her IQ can even be raised or lowered instantly. I wonder if they could do this on The View. Just wondering. We do that to politicians. Go to The View. Turn on The View and just slide that bar to the right.
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Politicians. I'd like a slide for that.
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A few politicians slide that bar to the right.
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I'm not so sure an AI bot wouldn't actually govern better.
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Would Bernie slide all the way up to triple digits?
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We're being mean. It's not in his program.
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Okay, it's not in his program. Okay, well, worse yet. Jack's ex is at the mansion. Her name is Kat, and Kat resents Iris. Well, I guess that makes sense.
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Is Kat real? Yeah, Kat's real. Okay, so Kat's real.
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And you're seeing Jack with this perfect female, obviously, because she's been designed.
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She's been made, right.
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Yeah, yeah. And also, the mansion is owned by this rich guy named Sergei. And Kat is his mistress. So Sergei is this rich Russian guy who's probably not on the level. And he's married, but he is sleeping with Jack's ex, who is Kat.
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Always a Russian dude, by the way. Yeah, it's got to be a Russian.
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Why is that? They make the best ones.
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Got it.
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You know, I mean, a mobster has to be Italian or Russian, really. Otherwise, it's no fun.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point.
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Well, filling out the group are two gay boyfriends, Patrick and Eli.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, got to get them in there somewhere.
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Got to get them in there. There you go. Well, but things get scary when Iris shows up with blood all over her and a knife. Has the sex bot gone rogue? Hey, we're in a horror thriller, so look out for the body count. It's going to be fun, right? Okay, but who are the biggest threats in this new age of AI? Are they the machines we create or the geniuses creating them? And how about jerks like Jack who select from a menu, right? Who are the real bad guys here? Well, soon Iris is running for her freedom and secrets are revealed about these four house guests. Who is killing whom? What's the motive? And surprises are abounding in Companion. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
It doesn't sound half bad.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it doesn't. Okay, well, what works in Companion? First of all, John, Sophie Thatcher is a gem. She's terrific as Iris, and she should be up for an award. I know you don't get awards for these kinds of movies. She should. You never saw Star Trek The Next Generation, did you? No, I don't. Okay, there's a character on there called Data. He's wonderful, played by Brent Spiner. Well, anyway, Data shows more humanity than the humans around him. Iris is the same way. She actually shows more humanity than the humans around her. And it's really kind of interesting to watch. Jack Quaid, he leads a spot-on group of flawed characters. They grasp the ickiness. They're icky, okay? And Jack Quaid is just terrific in this role. Yeah. Of course, Dennis Quaid's son, right? Most importantly, this film is pretty funny and has good pace. It's only an hour and 37 minutes. Boom. I love that. The plot twists keep coming, which keeps the energy up, keeps it alive. And finally, it shows the selfishness of mankind and how we abuse power the moment we have it. I mean, you give some schlub, some guy, you know, total power over a female. What's he going to act like? It's going to be wonderful because modern millennials are just perfect and, you know, sinless. No! I'm a jerk. A lot of them are going to be a jerk, at least in this movie. Okay, what doesn't work in Companion? It's a pretty woke movie with gay men kissing at some points and some bad straight white guys. Okay? Okay. Could have been funnier. It really could have been. You've got a terrific cast here that could be very funny. They were only occasionally funny. And this might explain the January release. Because I was a little surprised. This movie looked better done than a January film. The dialogue drags at times. It does. These characters are well played and in a good story, but they aren't all that interesting themselves, especially the side characters. I found the side characters to be rather boring for the most part. They just weren't very interesting. Now, Rotten Tomatoes loved this movie. They gave it 95%. And I can understand why, because... For pretty much across the board, this is a movie that it's hard to say no to. It's hard to tell people, Rotten Tomato, don't go to this movie. It's a bad movie. I couldn't do that. It's a good movie. But the question is, how good? All right. Is this a five star movie? No, it isn't. Quality, I'm going to give it three and a half stars. Because if they had had a better pace, right, there are moments where they're partying, they're doing these things, and you're just kind of clicking your fingers going, okay, move it, move it, move it along. You're boring me here. There were times when it was taking too long. But I'll say this. It's a strong three and a half. Okay. It's a strong three and a half star movie. This is a good movie. Companion is worth seeing. Political, I'll knock it down a little. I'll knock it down to two. More religious, knock it down to two. obviously you know what do you expect right uh but do i recommend going to companion yes i do john this is actually one of the better slasher type films that i've seen in a long time this is well made how um it reminds me a lot of uh geez what was that one with that little girl megan Oh, which you really liked, right? Yeah, that was two years ago, and I think I gave that the same grade of three and a half stars. Both of them are fun, interesting, good side characters, some good characters, decently written, good pace horror movies.
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Okay.
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And this is about on the level of Megan.
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Is this a super slasher film, real bloody and all that, or is it pretty decent?
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Not real bloody. I mean, do you have bodies dropping all over the place? No, but you do have several. And, you know, I'll just leave it at that. I'll leave it mysterious.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. All right.
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I do recommend Companion, folks. You're going to enjoy it. This is well acted, well done, and Sophie Thatcher is a real find.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie?
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This one's cartoon, right? Yes, it is. Okay, because I did look up this one a little bit on the front side.
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John, another question you and I have often wanted answered. Can a cop and a cop dog be sewn together into one crime fighter?
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Why not?
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I mean, I've always wondered that, right?
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Sure, why not?
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Well, you bet they can in Dog Man.
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when the streets are held hostage.
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Break the dog! Hit the siren!
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Two of the city's finest must come together and fight as one.
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What if we sew the dog's head onto the man's body? Enough about this Dog Man. It's time to stop this super cop. He's not going to ruin my evil plans to destroy all do-gooders. How evil can one cat be? Pretty evil. Dog Man, listen up. You're the only one that can stop him.
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With all your kung fu skills and your K-942 and whatnot, no time to waste.
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What do you think, John? It looks good, actually. It does look pretty good. You remember Barf from Spaceballs? Oh, yeah. I'm my own best friend. Yeah. Yeah, Mog. So that's kind of this. Okay, well, the setting is OK City. We're Officer Knight and his canine sidekick, Greg, are fighting crime, especially against the evil Petey the Cat, who's played by Pete Davidson, by the way. Okay. All cats are evil. You know that, don't you? Oh, yeah. I have an attitude. Oh, yeah, they do. Well, but a bomb goes off, and so Greg and Knight are seriously damaged. Knight's head can't be saved, and Greg's body can't be saved. So the result is Dogman, a new crime fighter. His police chief, and that's played by Lil Rel Howery. He's a funny guy. He's got a really good voice. He is frustrated. He's jealous of Dog Man's success, and he's in love with the news reporter and frustrated that Dog Man can't focus, no matter what he does. But most importantly, Petey the Cat is on a rampage. The police chief, he tells Dog Man to stop Petey no matter what, even if it takes a montage. Thought that was funny. Throughout the battles, we see some heavy issues, though. Dog Man must deal with feelings of loss over his new life. You know, because he used to be a dog and a man.
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Right.
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And there were connections there, and he no longer has them. Petey tries to clone himself, but in true mini-me form, makes a cute little kitty instead. Then Petey must deal with the lousy dad that he has who made him a villain. Well, along the way, Petey reanimates a dead fish with super psychokinetic powers. Okay, it's getting crazy now, right? The fish is named Flippy. He's played by Ricky Gervais, and he can make whole buildings run rampant through the city. Can Dogman stop Petey? Can anyone stop Flippy? Will little Petey choose good or evil? And what will become of the good citizens of OK City? What do you think? Sounds good. Actually, it's cute. It sounds like good, stupid fun, right? Yeah. All right. Well, what works in Dog Man? First of all, there's a good, quick pace for the first two-thirds of the movie. Lots of humor, mostly non-adult humor. But it's good for the kids. Kids are having fun. And I was chuckling, too. I was enjoying it. And there was a lot of action. I like that, too. Now, you have some terrific vocal performances. And this really carried the movie for me. Pete Davidson is excellent as Petey the Cat. And you heard him there. Pretty evil! I mean, he's just great. Well, Lil Rel and Ricky Gervais, they have a blast with their roles. They were wonderful. I like that you have a good villain. Petey the Cat's a good villain. He's mean, he's funny, but he's vulnerable. And I just enjoyed that. You always have to have a good villain for your hero. DreamWorks, they did a good job with the overall look. It's almost claymation if you take a look at it. But it isn't, right? It isn't claymation. And it reminded me a lot of the Peanuts movie. The look and feel of it, but more corny. There is little to no woke preaching. You know, I love that, right? At least I don't remember any, none that I could notice. And kids gave it a thumbs up. That's the biggest thing, because I asked a number of kids as they were coming out, what'd you think of the movie? And they all liked it, so there you go. Well, what doesn't work in Dog Man? Ugh, here's the problem. This puppy wears out its welcome, John. It really does, big time. Far too sappy toward the end. Easily 15 minutes too long, even though the film was only 90 minutes. You've got too many characters reconciling with their lives and changing. I don't know. I almost thought everybody in the world was going to become good. I thought Joe Biden would become a non-criminal, that it would just happen with almost everybody. Not everybody, but it was sappy. It really was. The action toward the end is ludicrous and scattered over the top, and that just makes it less fun. I like it more focused. Do you remember The Incredibles, the action in there? Totally focused, right? Tons of action, but always focused. Not here. Much of the dialogue is spoken too fast for kids. Now, this was interesting. So you have a lot of the funny little moments, but the characters are speaking just fast. Flying by. And there's no way the kids are going to be keeping up with that. They can't. So that leaves the kids just enjoying a few of the simple jokes and a lot of the fun and action on the scene, on screen. Creating a second villain so the first can soften and connect was not a great idea. And don't get me wrong, Ricky Gervais did a great job as Flippy. But Flippy was just too crazy, too wild, and honestly was really hurting the story toward the end. Petey the Cat was a much better villain. I think they should have just focused on that. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes liked this movie. 77%. I like this movie, but I can't go quite that high because the last third really dragged and got way too sappy. I'm going to give it three stars. Is it worth watching? Yes. In fact, I'm going to give it all threes. Political three, moral religious three. It didn't preach at me. I didn't mind anything it said.
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Okay.
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But did this movie wow me, John? I'll be honest. For a while there through the middle, it was wowing me. Hmm. I was just like, this is really good. I'm loving these characters. I'm loving where this is going. This is great for kids. And adults aren't going to be, you know, in torment watching this thing. Right. But it fell apart. It fell apart. And I think the last third was, for me, it was pure agony. So I know it must have been for the parents. So I'll give it three stars. Do I recommend going to Dogman? Sure. Yeah, Dog Man's a good cartoon. It's definitely worthwhile, and I think your kids are going to have a lot of fun.
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Not super long.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, 90 minutes.
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Which is, at least the agony wasn't.
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Yes, yeah.
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Okay, so really quick, what could they have changed to not make it so agonizing?
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Okay, they should have, I think it's some pretty easy fixes. As much as I like Flippy, they should have made Flippy a sidekick for Petey.
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Okay.
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Okay, because you don't want to take Gervais out of the movie. He's too talented. He's too good. But they could have made Flippy's role smaller and made him a sidekick for Petey, and it would have been incredibly funny. They could have interacted, but they don't. They make them just two totally separate villains. Petey the cat. A lot of his story I would have made less sappy toward the end. You know, cut down on the schmaltz a little bit. You could do it with the little kitten. That was funny. The schmaltz is funny with the little kitten because kittens are ridiculously cute, and they do that here. You know, everything just got too sappy down the stretch. Cut it. Make it more fun. Keep it lighter. Keep it more fluid. And make this thing in about 80 minutes. And most importantly at the end, have the action be much more focused like Incredibles and not just all over the place to where all you're basically seeing is buildings hammering into things and so forth. It's just not focused.
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How, you know, given the type of movie, how they do it and so on, is this a expensive movie to make or not?
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Medium.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously the CGI, I mean, the cartoonistry, we'll call it that. Obviously the cartoonistry was pricey. Just to... You know, get that look. Because on the one hand, you'd look at this and say, well, this is incredibly simple-looking stuff. Yeah, but you see the shading of all the characters. They're bringing so much reality to them. It's actually a lot more difficult than you think. So I think a lot of the cartoon industry is very pricey. And, of course, you've got a number of pretty big names who are putting in some great performances.
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That was my next question.
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They're not cheap.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah, they come with a price.
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Right. So do I think it had a huge price tag? You know, no. No. But do I think it had a pretty good price tag? Yes. Do I think it'll make money? Yeah, I do.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right. Yesterday's impossible question. What is the only country in the world that is transcontinental, is a transcontinental nation spanning Europe and Asia and not considered part of the Middle East? That, of course, would be the old USSR, or we call it Russia. Remember when we were kids growing up?
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Oh, Russia's not part of Asia?
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No.
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Oh, I didn't know that. I always kind of thought. Okay. I thought Asia was bigger.
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Well, not according to the National Geographic.
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Oh, okay.
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Whoever they are. I'm sure they're right. So, okay. Today's impossible question, what programming language? Do they have a Gulf of Russia? No.
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Okay, just checking.
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Go ahead. Well, so theirs is like covered with ice, right?
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Because we have a Gulf of America.
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I mean, I guess theirs isn't always covered in ice. It varies, right? Every time I think of Russia, I think of it being super cold. Yes. It's like a frozen tundra icebox is what I think. Now, I'm sure that's not the case.
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I always think of hunting for Red October.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Thank you. All right. What programming language is today's was created by Guido van Rosum in 1991 and named after a British comedy group? This one I think I would have actually got. I probably would have gotten this one right. I don't get too many questions of the day right, but I think I would have actually gotten this one correct. So answer that on the Facebook page. I should say on our Facebook page and update. And I know we spent a little bit of time on the Colorado GOP as we opened up. Sure. And we'll talk more about some of these things on. Tuesday again, because they do affect us here in Colorado greatly on what we do moving down the path to 2026 when it comes to governor and especially the Senate seat and again, local races and so on. But there was a meeting that was held, virtual meeting that was held last night with the intent of handling a few business things. But the main business agenda last night for the Colorado GOP and Dave and his cronies was to change the bylaws to eliminate certain votes. A lot of votes. A lot of votes. Thank you, Andy. And basically making the pond smaller, moving into the assembly that will take place later in February.
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Right, the reorganization meeting, which is going to be coming up at the beginning of next month. And what that would... I'm sorry. March.
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Right.
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End of February.
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I think it's beginning. I'll have to look.
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It's right there. It's right around March 1st. Well, yeah, the idea, of course, was basically to remove around three dozen, 40 maybe votes, mostly against Dave, almost all against Dave, from the Central Committee to make sure that Dave could retain power.
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Right. And that meeting last night didn't go well. I didn't watch all of it because I'm not privy. I'm not on the SEC or anything like that. There are some clips that have been put out on social media and other places whereby there were – I guess evidently people coming and going from the meeting, black screens, you know, it was a virtual meeting, so held over like Zoom. And so they couldn't really see who was who. So I don't know exactly how this all happened. But at a point in time, somebody suggested and I think most people got on board with the fact that, hey, we need a better way of verifying who's here, who's voting and so on. We want voter ID, basically.
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Because it's difficult to do on Zoom.
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Correct. So we want some sort of voter ID. Well, that basically blew the meeting up. And Dave and his cronies didn't really know how to handle that. And there was some back and forth arguing, some of that even coming from Lauren Boebert, who was actually in on the meeting.
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Did she and Dave argue at all?
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Yes, they did, back and forth.
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Over that or something?
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Oh, okay. Over that.
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Over credentialing.
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Correct.
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Because did Dave want to try to credential it?
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Without that.
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Without that. Correct. But they couldn't do it. I think it's going to be hard for Dave to put together another meeting in time. Before the reorg, I mean, he could pull it off. It'd be difficult, though, very difficult.
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We shall see. But ultimately, that meeting last night to basically change the bylaws, not basically, but to change the bylaws to have less votes when it's all said and done to effectively, in my opinion, keep Dave and or one of his cronies in power. That did not pan out last night, didn't happen. Now, there were a lot of people from his side of the aisle complaining that people like Lauren Boebert overstepped her bounds, that she's not more important than Dave Williams, and they didn't follow proper rules of – Robert's rules of order and blah, blah, blah. And Dave has the ultimate say in what happens in the meeting. And what I will say is this. The little bit that I saw in the meeting – By the way, just reconfirms everything I've been saying for almost the past two years. Dave is not a leader, period. You could tell by the way the meeting was being run. Dave is not a leader. The guy is like a wet noodle. He shouldn't be there. He's in way over his head, period. And those of you that are supporting him, you are absolute knuckleheads. Yes. There is no reason why you are. You can't give me one good reason why you are. Most of you that have tried don't have one. The only thing I can say is you are just walling around in your own little victories that you now have your own little power grab that's gone on, and you're super happy. Laurel Eimer, by the way, and those of you like her, you guys just think that you now have control over the entire world, but you're a bunch of nutjobs.
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Dave was brought in for one reason. to purge Republicans that his followers don't like. That is why he was brought in. He was brought in to punish petition candidates, to purge anyone that they feel is not of their ilk enough. And, you know, to me, it's like, look, I don't even dislike their ilk. I agree with these people on virtually all the issues.
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But the tactics I don't agree with.
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Yeah, it's the tactics I don't agree with.
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It's their strategy, which they have none.
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Right. I mean, for instance, you know, they they are against grooming kids and they are, you know, pro-life. So am I. So am I. Yeah. You know, they they love Donald Trump. So do we. Yeah. They you know, they like a lot of the very same.
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Well, but here's the difference between us and them when it comes to Donald Trump, which, by the way, I think even Donald Trump would say they would say that he's the only guy because I've heard him say it. He's the only guy that can fix America. Donald Trump, I think, would even say that, you know, no, I've got a lot of great people that are around me and I'm going to leave things in great shape when I'm done. And there'll be some other great people that can come in behind me. And no, I'm not the only guy that can fix this.
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Right. Even Trump doesn't worship Trump as much as they do. Correct. It's like, look, guys. Trump loves J.D. Vance. Trump loves Ron DeSantis. Trump loves Marco Rubio nowadays. Trump loves a lot of people. OK, but they if you're not their purest type, they're going to turn on you. What really gets me is this. I think a lot of these people sometimes who get into this mindset have no loyalty to the party. They only have loyalty to their movement, to their emotions, Andy. Well, what I mean is this. They will churn and attack Republicans instantly at the drop of a pen.
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I said this last week.
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I mean, my gosh, Rhino Watch has a whole page just to attack Republicans.
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I said this this past week. These are the same individuals for the most part. I know there's a few that have kind of come on board or come on board since. But these are the same people that literally a decade ago. tried to run a coup against Steve House when he was the GOP chair. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. Those of you that are listening, you know who you are. You know what involvement you had back then. You are some of the same individuals now that are on Dave's side. By the way, mad that what you called was a coup that wasn't, by the way. It was all legitimate in what was going on. And no, I don't believe in your Democrat judge basically being on your side because that's what a Democrat judge would do. So in the end, Dave... Do I feel like all of you that were forming that coup back 10 years ago deserve what you're getting today? Absolutely. Absolutely, I do.
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A lot of these are the same people also who were part of the Cruz Brigade that wouldn't support Trump.
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That's true, too. That's what's so funny. Good point.
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I know because I was online with a lot of these people trying to tell them Trump is not nearly as bad as you think. They were arguing against me. Trump is a liberal. Trump can't be trusted. Trump is terrible.
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He's a charlatan. He's this. He's a Trojan horse. Same thing they said about Elon Musk, by the way.
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And now these very same people are telling me I hate Trump. I'm an anti-Trumper. I had somebody try to call me that last night on our Zoom call in the text. And I'm just like, you guys are all over the map. I haven't changed at all. I'm exactly where I've always been.
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We have explained ourself on all of these issues very well over the past eight plus years. Yes. Very well. And you are correct. In fact, I actually called on this program. I was here with Kim Munson and some others. You weren't here. I actually called prior to Donald Trump winning the primary in 2016. I said, he's going to be your next president. That was long before all of these other guys that are out there calling you and I rhinos, before any of those were even on board with Donald Trump. I was saying he's going to be your next president. Well, you called it. So those of you that are out there that think that we are not for him, again, you're loons. You're crazy. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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We got a few seconds left. I'll just put it to you. Is Donald Trump a great president?
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Absolutely. One of the best ever.
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Are you loving everything that's coming out of his pen?
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Absolutely. Me too. Now, even now, do I wish he would do some things differently at times? Yes. Let me give you an example. Sure. While I also feel like DEI and a lot of the things that are going on in that world had a lot of an effect and maybe partially to blame for what happened with the airplane helicopter crash in D.C. Yes. But given the situation with families and everybody else, would I have mentioned that this week in a speech to the press? No, I would not have.
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You know the problem? Remember the movie Companion I just reviewed? A lot of these people from this group want you to be like the companion, the bot, who they can program. You could never disagree with anything or any method that Trump ever uses, ever.
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And that is an area where I disagree with him on. Right. I wouldn't have done that.
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All right, and that's about it for this first hour. We have another full hour coming your way, of course, and we're going to get into movies, movie rentals, and because of the... I wouldn't call this a bye week. It's just the week between now and the Super Bowl where they give everybody a chance to, I guess... Heal up, practice up, whatever you want to say to get ready for the big game.
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Well, and also milk all the media. Yeah, that's right.
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Exactly. And get all the other things out of this that they possibly can. So there will be no NFL picks today. We'll talk about the Super Bowl, of course, next week. So today it will be movies with dogs. And there's quite a few, actually.
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Right, because a dog man. Man's best friend, movies with man's best friend.
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And here's the rules. It doesn't have to be a movie about dogs. It can just be a movie with a dog in it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Correct?
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay, so there's the rule.
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A lot of the best movies with dogs are just movies that have a dog for a little while.
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Right. It doesn't have to be the entire movie about a dog, is my point. No, it does not. Welcome right back. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, hour two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it greatly. We will take a quick break, come back, of course, and we will be doing movies with dogs. Actually, if Richard's joining us now, I guess we could go ahead. Is that Richard on the phone? Oh, no. Okay, so he's not. So I thought Richard only calls after the break. So we'll take a quick break, come back, do movies with dogs. And I've gotten one text message so far. So you guys can start texting in and we'll add those to our list. 307-282-22. And as I said during the end of the last hour, it doesn't have to be an entire dog movie. No. It can just be a portion. We don't care. We're easy. Oh, yes. I've got several that are kind of like that.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard, are you with us? That I am. Okay.
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Richard, do you like movies with dogs? It depends on the movie, Andy, because, you know, when a dog dies, not a good movie.
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True. I've decided I'm going to blend every movie we do with Cujo. Oh, jeez. So Cujo, Lady and the Tramp.
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Cujo.
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Cujo. What do you think?
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Is it as bad as the Kansas City Chiefs winning?
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Oh, yeah. I think so. By the way, I know I'm looking ahead a week here, but I think Philly is going to win.
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There's already a boycott starting because of the NFL and a lot of what people think in regards to the Chiefs and the officiating and so on. Literally, there's an official, I read it on social media, there's an official boycott going around that people are going to boycott the Super Bowl because of the Chiefs.
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I don't care that much. I just think, personally, the Chiefs are about to run into a defense that is faster than anything they've faced.
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And I'm not probably going to watch the game, but I would disagree. I think the Eagles have their hands full. What do you think, Richard?
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Yeah, Andy, I mean, you and I have been sort of talking about this for a while now, and unfortunately, it just doesn't seem to be coming to fruition, right? Like, they just seem to continue their... And it's rather frustrating. I will say that 1,000%. But they just continue. So I'm going to end up – I'll give everyone an early preview. I'm going to pick the Chiefs next week, even though Andy is in. I think that Phillies are more talented. Kansas City just seems to find a way to win. And, Dad, I will say this. I'm sure a lot of people are. They're going to boycott all the other stuff. The only thing I'll say is people tried to say that about the NFL during COVID and all the other stuff. and they're still raking in the money and doing all the things that they need to do. Mark Cuban is infamous for a few years ago, which is the fat pigs are led to slaughter. In this case, the fat pig keeps getting fatter and fatter, and now he's almost too big to slaughter. They can't get him on the machine to cut him up. The NFL just keeps chugging along, and they just know how to do it. I have no other way to say it. They just know how to keep You know, kind of keep people invigorated. And, again, even with a Super Bowl that is less than desirable, right? Because, Andy, you've got Philly fans. Philly. No one really likes Philly except for Philly fans. I'll just say it, right? It's like no one likes the Sixers, the Flyers. No one likes Philly unless you're from Philly, which is great, right? They're super passionate, all those different things, which I'm all for. But at the same time, you've got everyone rallied against the Chiefs. And so maybe the NFL does love it because maybe they love a good villain story. They want some villain to pop up, and in this case, it's the chief. They're hoping to see it and see it.
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Look, here's why Philly is going to win. First of all, I just think they're going to win. They're the better team. I've been saying this now, as you know, for a couple months, that the NFC simply had the better top teams. Detroit simply had too many injuries on their defense. That's why they were knocked out. But Detroit would have clobbered Kansas City. And I thought the second best team in the NFC was Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia will manhandle KC. But here's why. Because who is president now? Donald Trump, right? Yeah. And what has Donald Trump brought to all of America? Liberty.
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What is Philadelphia?
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It's the city of what, John? liberty baby okay if you think so it is the liberty city and i'm telling you what now this is the year for philadelphia to win the super bowl because that's where liberty is born and donald trump is the man of liberty it's all coming together this is a done deal okay let's get the dogs go for it okay uh this uh this is one that i have to go with first because i know i've played it a lot but we have to it's john wick
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Oh, yeah, it's on my list.
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Yes, the little dog. And here's John Wick with his speech about losing the dog.
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Until that dog arrived on my doorstep. A final gift from my wife. In that moment, I received some semblance of hope. An opportunity to grieve unalone.
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And your son... Stole that from me. Killed that from me. People keep asking if I'm back, and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
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Great. I watched that last weekend. Oh, did you watch it? Good movie.
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It's a great movie. I really enjoy it.
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Don't mess with his dog. Yeah, don't dink around with his dog or his car.
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No, don't do that.
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Richard, what do you think?
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You know, Andy, again, I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but for a lot of men, yeah, don't mess with their dog. You can mess with their – you probably don't mess with their kids either. You can mess with his wife, your girlfriend, brother even, parents even. But you start messing with the dude's kid, dog, or car, you really got a problem on your hands. I'm just saying. Guys are simple creatures. Guys like dogs.
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You're up, Richard.
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All right. So like I said, Andy, I can't go – sad but i'm gonna go sad just because i've got some other lots of other good ones and so my sad one is of course marley and me oh yes that is sad i don't know i don't think i've ever seen that oh yes you have with the lab no i've never watched it for aniston no i've never seen it well i will say this if trump wants to really give people just outlaw movies where the dog dies and we'll all be happy
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Could they combine two and do Old Yeller and Me? Old Yeller? I was just wondering. Go ahead, John.
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Okay, I have one that most people aren't going to think is a dog movie, but Men in Black with the Pug and the Cigar.
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Frank! Frank's great.
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Right?
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Yeah, I love him. That's a good one. Well done. Okay, I've got to go to one of my favorite dog movies, as you know, and here it is, Bolt.
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Oh, a styrofoam. That stuff, it weakens me. Aha. What are you doing? Put that down.
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All right, that's it. I've had it with you. Untie me, pooch. Or I'm going to seriously wound you. I'm going to seriously wound you with this styrofoam. Are you mad? You don't know the power of styrofoam. Oh, you bet I'm mad, baby. And I'm about to unleash it. The power of the styrofoam. Oh, I can't. Okay.
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I've only seen that once.
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Oh, it's so kooky and fun. It's a good movie. I forget the lady who plays the cat there, but she was great. Uh-huh. She was so funny. All right. Richard, you're up.
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All right. I'll go after that. You'll know this one from my childhood, which is Homeward Bound.
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Oh, yeah. Great show.
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Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
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Yeah, that's one of those that, you know, if it's on, you just kind of watch it, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah. You do. I don't know about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Shadow. It's a good movie. It really is. Let's see. I'm trying to think of ones that aren't typically considered dog movies like I Am Legend.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. The dog dies.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know the dog dies. I know, I know. So does Will Smith.
SPEAKER 11 :
The dog's... Oh, I don't care who it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
The dog dies a lot.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because it's Biden's dog.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was a mean dog. Biden's dog was one mean dog. Yeah, he bit everybody. It needed a little Kristi Noem action.
SPEAKER 11 :
It needed a little discipline. Wouldn't you bite people, too, if you had Biden as your owner? I'm just saying. He makes a point, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and it probably wasn't even Biden handling him because he's in another world, so who knows who the actual handler of that dog was.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't even want to think. Okay. Maybe he saw too much with Hunter. It damaged him. Andy. Andy. Look, I'm sorry. Okay, let's go to a clip. Real short. Here we go.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm a mog. Half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm my own best friend. John Candy, obviously from Spaceballs.
SPEAKER 08 :
He was a mog. Yeah, and I guess he was like a dog, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yeah. He's half man, half dog.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. We just did a movie, Dog Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That counts. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. A kid movie here, Andy. Yes. All dogs go to heaven.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Do they? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think so, too. You know, Dad, you're going to jump on someone's parade, and you're going to ruin some kids, probably your grandkids.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think they do. No, I'm being serious. I think they do, actually.
SPEAKER 10 :
Cats go to the other place.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, cats go to hell. Dogs go to heaven. They do.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Cats are the kindling.
SPEAKER 11 :
He doesn't even want cats in hell.
SPEAKER 09 :
Cats are the kindling. I'm just saying. Some cat lover is going to be all over Andy. I know. Okay, you're up. Let's see. How about... Richard doesn't know this one. Where the red fern grows, they die in it, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Jeez, Louise, you're picking a lot of... I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 09 :
Dead Dog Tearjerker.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're fencing a theme here, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
This week on Rush Reason, Dead Dog Meals with John Rush.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, um... Dogs that die.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dogs that die. When they die, do you put it in slow motion so you can really enjoy that scene?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I hated that as a kid.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. I'm just checking. Okay. I've played this before, but I got to again. Benedict Cumberbatch.
SPEAKER 09 :
Benedict Cumberbun?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. As agent classified in Penguins of Madagascar.
SPEAKER 15 :
The North Wind is an elite... An elite undercover interspecies task...
SPEAKER 05 :
Dedicated to help... Help... Dedicated to help... Dedicated to helping animals who can't help themselves. Really? And you are?
SPEAKER 23 :
My name is Classified.
SPEAKER 05 :
Classified, eh? What is that? Dutch? Can't really hear the accent.
SPEAKER 04 :
Excuse me?
SPEAKER 05 :
There's the accent.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, my name isn't Classified. My name is Classified because I am the leader of this strike team. A seal.
SPEAKER 10 :
So is the dog crunching? No, the penguin was crunching these cheese dibbles. And he kept crunching them every time the dog tried to explain.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, it was the dog talking.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that was Benedict Cumberbatch. He's the dog, agent classified. He's the leader of the elite team trying to talk to the penguins.
SPEAKER 09 :
I see. I can't hear you, Richard. Speak up.
SPEAKER 10 :
He said he's a wolf. There you go. No, he was like a wolf-like dog. Well, you know, like when a...
SPEAKER 11 :
a husky dogs came from he was like he looked like a husky you guys just go wolf and he's a husky he's a husky that's what they say about bat people i'm a little husky yeah but you know your wife said you were a wolf in the early days go ahead i look like actually i'm a bear to her i'm you know i've got lots of Oh, that's sweet.
SPEAKER 09 :
So who's up? Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Richard's up. Go ahead. I am up. All right, let me see here. You can do wolf movies.
SPEAKER 09 :
What?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oliver and Company.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay. Has that got dogs in it? What is that movie about?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it's an animated movie. I'd like to get it. There's several dogs.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, just so you know, John, if only for one frame, every single cartoon ever made has a dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Got to have dogs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, this one came from a listener. It's kind of mine. And maybe you guys can help because I don't know the answer to this. Can't remember the actor's name or the movie, but he's a vet and the dog talks.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, Dr. Doolittle.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is that it or is it Pet Detective?
SPEAKER 10 :
I thought it was a different one. No, no, no. Dr. Doolittle.
SPEAKER 11 :
The dogs don't talk in Pet Detective because that's Asian Shura. No, it's Dr. Doolittle because he can talk to animals.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, and he is a vet. Okay, Charlie said he's a vet. Okay, there you go. So we'll take that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
John? No, that'll be mine. I'm just going to throw that in there. That'll be yours.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, this is a longer clip, but I'm sorry. I like it, and it's from Arthur the King, the trailer. Here we go.
SPEAKER 26 :
Team Broadrail has traveled over 200 miles, and they found a companion.
SPEAKER 19 :
Daddy has a dog? What have you done?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think you found a new partner in suffering, Michael. Yeah, he's the king. I think we should call him Arthur. How's he doing? He's been through so much. This dog needs a vet. I don't want you to hurt anyone. He's a fighter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just like you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Famous dog. Looks even worse than the rest of you. Maybe you all deserve each other. Always underestimating, aren't we, buddy?
SPEAKER 05 :
This isn't the route on the map. It's okay. Just follow Arthur.
SPEAKER 11 :
Lead the way, King.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've never seen anything like this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everybody knows about it. Guess what? I'm not a dog person.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great movie, by the way. Yeah. Have you seen it, Richard? What is that? Arthur the King. Oh. With Wahlberg. It's a new movie. It's not that old.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it came out last year.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a great movie. It's fabulous.
SPEAKER 10 :
I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER 09 :
The boys would love it. It's great.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I'll have to watch. All right, let's see here. Oh, my word, Andy, you're making me. Making you work? You are making me work. Oh, Snow Dogs.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. Was that with Cuba Gooding Jr.? Yeah, I think that was Cuba. I like him. He's impossible not to like.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so Snow Dogs. I think that's on my list. Yep, that's on my list. That's a good one, by the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Go ahead, John. Legally Blonde. She's got that little dog always with her. What is that little thing?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, that's true. I have no idea. It's not really a dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
There you go, Charlie. Rude as.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, let's go back to Mark Wahlberg. I mean, because why not? In Daddy's Home. And I played this before. Little dog named Tumor. Here we go. How old is that thing?
SPEAKER 12 :
I guessed him to be around 15. I mean, I found him this morning living in a storm drain. I named him Tumor because of how much he grows on you.
SPEAKER 25 :
Oh, I'm going to leave this one up to Brad.
SPEAKER 14 :
he's looking at me like that he's only looking at me maybe we just get a puppy instead huh a puppy brad what are they gonna learn from a puppy an old dog like tumor here has been out in the world man living free fighting for survival and seeing things we can only dream of we just look at the wisdom in those cloudy eyes besides you know what happens to old dogs at shelters he's gonna have to walk the green mile as soon as he gets there Hey, hey, fine. You can live out his few remaining weeks with us.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yay! Thanks, Brad! I don't hate you anymore.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just love that scene. Tumor. I know. The problem is, it's a funny clip, but man, if you could just see the dog. Oh, I know. He's pathetic. Oh, it's just awful.
SPEAKER 09 :
Found him living in a storm drain.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just white eyes.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, let's see here. Oh, White Fang. Because, Andy, according to you, you think that wolves are dogs. And I guess he's kind of a dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, didn't dogs come from wolves?
SPEAKER 10 :
Agent Classified is not a wolf!
SPEAKER 09 :
Are you sure?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, he's a husky.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's a husky.
SPEAKER 10 :
Look, huskies look like dogs. By the way, wolves are in the dog, you know, kind category.
SPEAKER 09 :
Family.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, hang on. I'm going to look this up. Are wolves dogs?
SPEAKER 10 :
A wolf can mate with a dog. I don't recommend it, especially a small dog, but I'm just saying, you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is a wolf considered a dog? Yes. Wolves are considered a type of dog because they're both part of the Canis lupus species. I win! Dogs are a subspecies of wolves, which is what I said, that were domesticated by hunter-gatherers. This says a long time ago, but yeah, a long time ago.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sean, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're getting weird. You're up. How about Air Bud?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Good one. It was a dog movie. Well, yeah, he's like the dog in the movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, here's a movie where there is no dog, but he's referred to right at the very end. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Here we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
What did you find, Junior? Junior? Dad? Please, what does it always mean? Is this Junior? That's his name. Henry Jones Junior. Like Indiana. We named the dog Indiana. May we go home now, please? The dog? You are named after the dog? I've got a lot of fond memories of that dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
So was there an actual dog in the movie, or were they just talking about the dog?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I'm being creative. They were just talking about the dog, referring to the dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, Andy, that's kind of a stretch.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nope, I'm going to let it go.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's really a stretch.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm changing the rules. That's a real stretch.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, I'm going to do like Dave Williams and make it so you don't have a vote.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, there we go. Gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER 10 :
Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good strategy. All right, here. Let's go with Secret Life of Pets, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
That was good. Yeah, I think that's... Is that on my list?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, it's got to be.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'll add it if it's not. Secret Life of Pets? Yep. I don't know if I've seen that one. Okay. Benji.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's like 500 Benjis, but pick one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you know, they're all the same.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. They pretty much are.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, let's do... I'm just going to play the scene. A little dog is very famous in this movie, but not in this scene. Here we go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Have you seen my dog with the little face? Uh-oh.
SPEAKER 24 :
You have no idea what your work means to me. How do you write women so well?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
SPEAKER 21 :
Shut up, kids!
SPEAKER 18 :
Definitely a package you don't want to open or touch.
SPEAKER 02 :
Pay me a compliment, Melvin. I need one. Quick.
SPEAKER 03 :
You make me want to be a better man.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's maybe the best compliment of my life.
SPEAKER 10 :
From Academy Awards.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a good movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, as good as it gets. With Jack Nicholson, Helen Hunt, and, of course, Greg Kinnear. Wonderful movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
But the dog was the star. Oh, yeah. Let's face it.
SPEAKER 09 :
What was the dog's name? Do you remember?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I don't remember.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't either.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just a scruffy little thing, but he was so cute. When he's jumping across the cracks in the sidewalk to be just like Jack Nicholson. Very cute. Okay, Richard, you are up. Legally Blonde. I said that one already. John did it. I did it once last week.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let me get out of here. All right. Again, I can't believe I'm doing a sad movie, but eight below.
SPEAKER 09 :
Why is that sad?
SPEAKER 11 :
Because the dogs don't like it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Pretty sure one of the dogs dies at the end, if I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think they're all put down. Wasn't Cujo in the herd? I mean, one of them?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and, of course, Richard with us as well. Richard, okay, we were wondering, Charlie's wanting to know through the break, he thinks you killed somebody because you dug a grave and you're now building the casket because that's what we can hear in the background.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, gotcha. No, I'm just trying to do sort of the spring cleaning. And if you've seen my garage, it is not in good shape. And so I was attempting to take a battery out of something and had to get it there.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you dig a grave for your batteries? Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Andy, that is the only proper way to dispose of the lithium.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, we just bury them back in.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, that works.
SPEAKER 10 :
That works, right. I like it. We can mine it later. Good idea.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good idea.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. You're up. Okay. Let's see here. Long, very depressing movie. 101 Old Yellers. What do you think? 101 Old Yellers. Yeah, that would be depressing. Can we do that?
SPEAKER 09 :
For sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. I'll do 101 Dalmatians, which is obviously an all-time classic. Which one? Oh, the cartoon. The cartoon.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's a bunch of them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Cartoon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Great villain. Great movie. No, good movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
All righty. Let's see here. Andy... Cats and Dogs. Did we do that one? We did that. It's an old kid's movie. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's on my list somewhere. I've got to find it. Yep, there it is right here. Okay, I'm going to do a couple from listeners really quick. One was Against a Crooked Sky, which I've never seen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Me either.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then the other one was Dances with Wolves.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh!
SPEAKER 09 :
Well... That one works. Wolves are dogs. Yes, we determined that earlier.
SPEAKER 10 :
We determined that earlier. Richard has to bow to that.
SPEAKER 09 :
So good job, guys.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, here's the scene from There's Something About Mary. Is there a dog in that? Yes, there's a dog in that. And in this scene, the dog had been given, like, cocaine or speed. I think speed. And it was this little dog that's on the other side of the door. It's been given speed. Here we go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mary? Mary? What kind of dog is Puffy?
SPEAKER 17 :
Porter Terrier. Porter Terrier. Like Benji.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 10 :
You have to see him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey. Hey. Are you the little guy making all that big noise? Huh?
SPEAKER 10 :
No. I will not play anymore because you can't see it. Right. The dog's pulling on him and he's leaving claw marks on the floor as he's being pulled. The dog scene where he attacks... is one of the funniest scenes I've ever seen.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Corey cannot watch that scene without going into tears.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is that funny?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Have you seen it? Or something about Mary?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, never seen that movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I thought you had. No, never. Richard, have you seen it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, it's been a while, yes. I mean, I've seen it, but it's been a while. Okay, you're up. Iron Will.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, okay. Good one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, great movie. Um... I have one that I was thinking of a minute ago after Andy played that last clip. And Pink Panther. The scene where, and it's the movie, it's the scene where he says, does your dog bite?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, my dog doesn't bite. Are you sure? So then he goes over there to grab it and he growls at him and bites him. I thought you said your dog didn't bite. He doesn't. That's not my dog.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is classic.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, classic.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. This is a quick clip from Blade Trinity.
SPEAKER 09 :
Blade Trinity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
His name's Pac-Man. We've been porting the vampire genie to other species. Experimenting.
SPEAKER 11 :
You made a vampire Pomeranian? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
A vampire Pomeranian. That would be a mean dog.
SPEAKER 10 :
It was awful. And it was really funny. Anyway, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's see here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Turner and Hooch.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. Good one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Little Tom Hanks. When is the last time we've had a week where we didn't have a Tom Hanks movie? Is that even possible?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know. He's in about everything.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's see here. The art of racing in the rain.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. Kind of new agey. Yeah. All right. Here's from the clip of the truth about cats and dogs. Here we go.
SPEAKER 18 :
But the woman with the voice he loves. Hello? What would you say to having a bath?
SPEAKER 17 :
Don't strike me as the shy type.
SPEAKER 18 :
He's probably jealous.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the face he adores. I have to admit, you're not the same person you were on the phone last night. Is more than one woman. Our turtle's sick. Can you help us out? Ah!
SPEAKER 21 :
He's got pneumonia.
SPEAKER 06 :
All you have to do is grab the turtle's leg and hook him up with your finger. You want me to stick my finger in the turtle's... 20th Century Fox presents... She is all that and a bag of chips.
SPEAKER 23 :
Uma Thurman.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's got this small personal habit that just drives me crazy. What's that? He loves you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Janine Garofalo.
SPEAKER 25 :
You love Abby because she's so beautiful.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, she is, but that's not why I love her.
SPEAKER 25 :
The truth is you would not be so enamored with Abby if she looked like...
SPEAKER 19 :
I love Abby. It doesn't matter what she looks like. And Ben Chaplin.
SPEAKER 10 :
Anyway, The Truth About Cats and Dogs, I know you guys haven't seen it. It's got one phone sex scene. I will always let people know that. But outside of that, it is one of the best little romantic comedies I have ever seen. And Uma Thurman's dumb blonde routine in that is just hilarious. So there you go. The Truth About Cats and Dogs. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, let's see here. Oh, Clifford the Big Red Dog.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah, Clifford counts. Clifford! He's in there. Okay, these are coming from listeners, and I was going to say it anyway. So Shaggy D.A., which I already had on my list, and then The Patriot. I don't remember a dog in The Patriot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Am I forgetting a part of that somewhere?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm sure there was a dog in The Patriot. That's a long movie, so I'd have to go back.
SPEAKER 10 :
Mel loves dogs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm relying on the listeners, so if they say so, there's one there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Am I up? Yep. The DC League of Super Pets. Oh, yeah. A surprisingly good little cartoon about crypto, the super dog for Superman. All right. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Let's see here. Andy did that one. You did that. Oh, Shaggy Dog. I think that's a Tim Allen one, isn't it? It is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Shaggy Dog. Good one. Absolutely. On my list as well. Going back in time, The Adventures of Rin Tin Tin.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. You are really going back in time. Okay. How about Zombie Dogs in Resident Evil?
SPEAKER 09 :
Never saw it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. There you go. It's pretty cool. Okay. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's see here. Did we do a Dog's Purpose? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. No, we did not. That's top of my list. That works. Hachi is mine.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a surprisingly good little movie, by the way. Okay, I'm going to go with Toy Story.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh. Remember? Good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that counts.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wiener Dog. Okay, Richard, you're up. I'm going to stick with one.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll give it to you, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Ernest. The guy who does Ernest played the dog. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, there you go. All right, let's see here. I'm getting really into my list here. Snow Buddies.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have not heard that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think you're combining random words. You are correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. All right, and I got an explanation on the Patriot. There's the part where the general has the two dogs that Mel Gibson takes. He takes the two dogs that belong to the general, so good scene there. Okay, how about Scooby-Doo? How about Scooby-Doo?
SPEAKER 10 :
A great character, of course. I've got to do it now. I've been mentioning it. Old Yeller. There we go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah, that counts.
SPEAKER 10 :
Because somebody besides John has to mention a Kill the Dog movie. Okay, Richard, you're up. Make the boy kill him.
SPEAKER 09 :
You are correct. In Old Yeller, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Got to be strong. Balto. Here, use a bat. So bad. Son. Oh, we are terrible people. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Balto.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
On my list. Okay, this one I might be off on, but I know there's a dog in it, and I think there's also a movie, Jetsons.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Astro.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Astro. You bet.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, here's one more clip, and this is with John Cusack and Diane Lane, a cute little romantic comedy from way back, Must Love Dogs. Here we go.
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Let me do it for you. You were lying to me because you didn't want to hurt my feelings. I get it. I just got shredded. I'm out of the game. Bench me. Bench me. Hey. Badged.
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Why one human being is attracted to another is one of the great mysteries of the world, love.
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I love you too.
SPEAKER 22 :
Hello? I filled your freezer again. There is now enough meat in there to feed every guy who answered your ad and still... Jake did, in fact, answer the ad.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do I get my meat? It's actually not a bad little movie. It drags some, but it's pretty good. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's see here. Is it White Fang? Did we do The Call of the Wild?
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 11 :
We did not.
SPEAKER 09 :
That one works. Call of the Wild. Okay. Okay. Let's see. Make sure you get all the ones from listeners in. You did White Fang already, right? Crossed that one off the list. Yep. The Adventures of Milo and Otis.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, of course. Okay, here's one that nobody who's listening should watch, even though it's very funny, but it's like Team America. I shouldn't admit that I've seen this movie. Starring Will Ferrell and Jamie Foxx, Strays.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you should not watch that movie. You should not watch that movie. But it's very funny. It is hilarious. It's hilarious. Absolutely. It's just disgusting. Yeah, but you should not watch it.
SPEAKER 10 :
No. No, I'm damaged. Are you? Yeah, I'm damaged.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead, Richard. It's hilarious, though.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is. Beethoven. Okay, Beethoven. So bad, Andy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Richard's just listening to us laugh. So bad. Okay. Hold on, Beethoven? Okay, let me get that one off of here. Did you do Snow Dogs? Did somebody?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. I did, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Lady and the Tramp.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. Just a second here. Let me get rid of that. Okay. Because of that great movie, I mean, that great actor, Vin Diesel. Oh, jeez. Riddick. The movie Riddick.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's a dog in there, isn't there?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, there's a dog on another planet.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's where he should have stayed for good.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're so mean.
SPEAKER 09 :
His acting career.
SPEAKER 10 :
He's the greatest actor ever. Okay, go ahead, Richard. Did we do Lady and the Tramp?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I just did. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening last round.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, Richard, I just got a quick question. Enjoying the show?
SPEAKER 11 :
I got batteries to bury, Andy. I got batteries to bury, all right? Oh, my word.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's only your father brought your life. Yeah, no, don't worry about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
No big deal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Don't feel guilty. Yeah. I won't. Fox and the Hound.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Oh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a good one.
SPEAKER 09 :
A Dog's Journey.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. The Peanuts Movie with Snoopy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's see here. Andy, did we do My Dog Shep? Some from you old-timers or something?
SPEAKER 09 :
We did not. My Dog Shep on my list. My Dog Shep. Okay. Lassie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, well, got to go with the classic, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. I watched all those when I was a kid.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I want to get bizarre on this one just for fun. Ghostbusters. Okay, so she's a dog. Remember Sigourney Weaver was turned, and Rick Moranis were both turned into hellhounds.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Which are dogs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you're right. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up. Scooby-Doo.
SPEAKER 09 :
I already said that one. Thanks for listening. Again, once again, thanks for listening. Which one? I said Ruh-Roh Scooby-Doo. Which one? I don't know. There's like 500.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is too good. Exactly. So it's still there. All right. Let's see here. You did Benji. You did that one. Max, did we do? Nope, didn't do Max.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, there you go. That one counts. It counts.
SPEAKER 10 :
Marmaduke. Marmaduke! That was not a good movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it wasn't. You're right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, let's see here. This is a movie that I reviewed just a few weeks ago. Flo.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And it's mainly about the cat, but it's got a dog in it who's very lovable. Flo, I gave four stars, and it was given. And at the Golden Globes, it won Best Animated Feature for 2024. Okay. Richard, you're up. The Grinch.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. Max the dog. Good one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Max. How about A Dog's Way Home?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do you remember when he had to put down Max at the end of that movie?
SPEAKER 09 :
No. Okay. I don't.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm just inserting that into every movie pretty much now. The end of Grinch when he had to put down Max. Very sad. Very sad. Okay. Did we say Iron Will?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Thanks for listening. Well, no. I'm asking. I wasn't sure because I thought we had, but I wasn't sure. Togo with Willem Dafoe. Oh, that's on my list. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
That counts.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 11 :
You did Air Bud. Yep. You did... All right. I have no idea. Let's see here. Oddball.
SPEAKER 10 :
Don't know it, but okay. Oddball?
SPEAKER 11 :
Never heard of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, once again, is simply throwing out random words.
SPEAKER 09 :
Megan Levy.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a good one. That's on my list. And we've been bringing it up but never using it. Cujo.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's on my list, too. Okay. Cujo.
SPEAKER 10 :
Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 09 :
Last round, Richard.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Did we do, oh, Babe.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. Babe. Great movie, by the way. One of my favorites. Love Babe. Well done, little movie. Yeah, awesome movie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Very well done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Against the Wild.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Richard, we'll let you go. Finish burying your body or batteries or whatever you've got going on there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Just so you know, I've got a lithium farm right underneath the house.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, two from listeners up where the red fern grows. You're up, Andy.
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Okay, best in show, The Little Mermaid, Isle of Dogs, and Incredible Journey.
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The Stray Pets, Dog, Life in the Doghouse, Napoleon, Rescue Dogs, and how about Miracle Dogs? Well done, sir. All right, guys, have a great rest of your evening. Don't forget tomorrow morning, Fix It Radio at 9 o'clock, followed up by Drive Radio. Have a fabulous weekend. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you.
HR1 Dr. Kelly & Steve: JFK Jr. Fix Health Care or It Will Die. On the Dole from Big Pharma. 1-30-25 by John Rush
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SPEAKER 04 :
And happy Thursday, everybody. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dr. Kelly Victory with us so far. Steve House will be joining us here in a minute or two. Dr. Kelly, welcome.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks for having me, as always. It's been an interesting week watching these hearings. I've been watching as much of him as I can, particularly the one with Robert Kennedy Jr. So I'm hoping we will get into some of that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
We absolutely will. And of course, for all of you, and I'll get into this a little bit later, I've got a special guest even that's going to join us to talk about the. American Airlines and the Black Hawk helicopter that crashed last night. Our prayers go out to all the family members of because as we know now, Dr. Kelly, no survivors, which if you were watching any of that last night, you could have pretty much figured that one.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, there's some pieces of this puzzle that are clearly missing. I was watching it with great interest last night and reviewed multiple, multiple different angles on that collision. It is inexplicable to me. Clearly, the helicopter did not make any maneuvers of any sort to avoid it, despite the fact that they've been contacted, apparently. about 30 seconds before the collision by the air traffic control. So something doesn't add up here. It is absolutely tragic. All 67 people involved, three on the helicopter and 64 on the CRJ, all perished in this tragic event. But there's a piece of this that's clearly missing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and again, like I said, everybody listening, stay tuned. After we get done with this hour, I've got a special guest that has been in that world in the past and has flown these types of helicopters and so on, a retired lieutenant colonel. So you can imagine some of his experience. We'll talk to him as we move through the rest of the program. Oh, Steve is with us now as well. Steve House, welcome. How are you, sir? Hi. I am doing well. How are you guys? Doing very well. And it has been definitely an interesting week. So, Dr. Kelly, you said a moment ago and that really where I wanted to start anyways was, you know, the confirmation hearings. And I talked a little bit about this yesterday, you know, letting people know that we would get into this in more detail today. And I guess I'll just start this way, Dr. Kelly. And, you know, RFK Jr. better than any of the other two of us, myself and Steve. But with what's gone on and the attacks from his own party, when does he change the D to an R?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think he really has. He has made it very clear that he has left the Democrat Party. He hasn't said that he is officially now considering himself a Republican, but he clearly has said that he's no longer a Democrat. He said in in. He has many words that the party is no longer the party that his father and his uncle supported. He's been a lifelong Democrat, but they have abandoned him. And he went through a litany of reasons why he can no longer, in good conscience, consider himself a Democrat. And he did that back when he decided to withdraw from the presidency, his run for the presidency. So I don't know if he will actually officially declare that he's a Republican, but it's clear where his allegiance lies. He has been very, very loyal to President Trump so far. He's done a spectacular job, I believe, in handling the ridiculous onslaught of assaults and insults that have come from people in the Senate during these hearings. It is clear that they are not interested in hearing his particular answers or position on anything. They are simply interested in hurling pejoratives. and insulting him, calling him everything from a conspiracy theorist to a climate extremist. They don't really want to know where he stands on any particular issue.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, you have all three of us, given your political background and so on, could most likely back me up on this, but his uncle couldn't get elected in the Democrat Party today. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you're not wrong about that at all. The question that we've got to ask pretty soon is, so what's the point of being part of a party? The real answer is it's because you have political resources that go out there and help you get elected, right? And there's processes to get on ballots and other things. But anymore, every day something more happens that pushes us away from needing the party's help because many times the party doesn't support you because you're different than whoever's running the party. So Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump in some respects, You know, they can run their own thing. They don't need the party anymore to do that. And I think we're going to start and see, especially with the way media is, I just don't know how parties are going to exist in the future. What I care about is what do you believe and what are you willing to do? And I frankly believe in Bobby Kennedy's case. I just walked out of a hospital talking to people who are, you know, strong R's in a very Republican area. As far as they're concerned... He needs to save health care. And Bobby said it the other day in this confirmation here. There's very few people, if anyone, who can do what he needs to do or what needs to be done outside of him. I don't care if he's a Democrat, Libertarian, Republican. I want the man to fix health care or it's going to die. And I think that's what matters now.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't argue any of that. Dr. Kelly, before we get into some of what Steve just said a moment ago, because I do want to dig into some of that on how does he go about doing some of these things, but I also find it ironic, and granted, there's been a lot of people that have called this out, not networks, of course, but A lot of the other media that, by the way, the current White House and the press secretary are now inviting in to actually be in some of these press secretary briefings and so on, which I found really refreshing when she said that a couple of days ago. But reality, Dr. Kelly, is there's a lot of folks out in the nontraditional media calling out these folks that are going to these senators that are going after RFK Jr. by basically saying, isn't it ironic you're the ones on the biggest dole from Big Pharma?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, many, many people have called them out. Certainly I have. And you've got people like Nicole Shanahan. uh... need our case that right work choice as vp you're quite okay look we know we're going to call you out we are going to expose you to millions and millions of dollars certainly people like elizabeth warren bernie sanders and many others to millions and millions of dollars from big pharma over the years and they're clearly trying to protect their you know ability to feather their nests and to continue to get this money uh... it's But another thing I was going to point out with regard to your question whether Bobby Kennedy now considers himself to be a Republican, whether he does or doesn't, the reality is we have people weeing from the Democrat Party. They recognize that the Democrat Party has let them down. They have failed to make life better for anybody. You've got not only Bobby Kennedy, but also Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi sat in Congress as a Democrat. She is a lifelong Democrat. She's now being confirmed. These are really, as the head of DNI, these are really important cabinet positions, and the fact that they are going to be occupied by people who had been lifelong Democrats who have now seen the light and said, We want to put our time, our talent, and our resources behind Donald Trump and what he stands for. It does not bode well for the future of the Democrat Party.
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Question for you, Steve, and I do think at the end of the day, and I could be wrong, I think this one's going to come down to the wire just like Pete's confirmation was where you may have J.D. Vance being the tiebreaker when it's all said and done. I do think RFK Jr. will get confirmed, but again, I think it's going to come down to the wire. Your thoughts?
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I do. I mean, you know. I haven't heard – somebody asked me today, what's the status on Murkowski and Collins because they seem to be the ones that always, you know, we're worried about. But if McConnell and Graham have already stated they won't support Kennedy, I mean, I think it's perilous a little bit for him. But at the same time, I don't know what the alternative is. I mean, I just don't think – I kept thinking, who out there other than Bobby Kennedy would do what needs to be done, which is, you know, we've been talking about if you do health right – then health care and hospitals especially are going to suffer during the transition because the money is going to be spent on getting people to be healthier. Right. And not just, you know, you know, fixing them when they're broke. I really believe he's the only guy that can pull this off. I mean, you know, they say, you know, Caroline Kennedy of there's 330 million Americans is the only guy we can choose. Well, quite frankly, it may be. So I don't know if he'll make it, but if he doesn't make it because the Republicans don't allow it, because that's the only way you can't make it here, the Republican would have to stop it. If he doesn't make it, I have a hard time thinking I'm not going to be really, really disappointed in the Republicans and the people like Lindsey Graham who stopped it because it just isn't the thing to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
If that ends up being the case, Dr. Kelly, have you heard through the grapevine what a second choice is or has that even been discussed? Do you know?
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Well, I communicated with Ron Johnson on Tuesday this week, and he acknowledged that he was not certain that they have the votes. But as I said to him, I think there are a number of Democrats who will vote for Bobby Kennedy, people like John Fetterman.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, true. Good point.
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So I think we have the ability to lose some of these rhinos, as despicable as they are, and I find them absolutely abhorrent, people like Lindsey Graham. who are voting because of their self-interest in continuing to get money from Big Pharma. I agree wholeheartedly with Steve. I have come to believe that Bobby Kennedy is the only person who can fix this because of his unique background and his ability to understand not only the science, but more importantly, the way these things work. He has sued these big companies. He knows how to clean the house. He knows how to really fight for safety and fight for the environment. So he's got a great pedigree for this. Anybody who votes against him, I can guarantee you, is not voting on the basis of what is best for this country, for our children. and for the health and welfare of American citizens. They're voting to protect their own interests and their own bank accounts. And they should all be primary.
SPEAKER 03 :
I fully agree. Go ahead, Steve. Hey, John. I mean, I think I'm in the process of writing something about the intersection of health and health care where they're both sustainable in the future and it's, you know, financial and all this. But I would also say that the day they turn him down, if they turn him down, is you're going to see something from me that says the day that health care died. Because unless we embrace health, unless we stop doing what we're doing, over-regulating health care and allowing big pharma to dominate because people are so sick they have to depend on it, it'll be the day that health care died. And we'll have to look at a different strategy going forward. So I think it's that important.
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All right, we are back on this Thursday edition. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Dr. Kelly Victory, Steve House. If you're listening to us for the first time, we have been doing this hour on this day pretty religiously. We've missed a few here and there, but not many over the course of the past four years, literally since 2020. So if you guys want to know more about what we've done during this hour, go back and listen to some of the past episodes, which there's hundreds of them up. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. And you can find a full page dedicated to Dr. Kelly there as well and her background and all that we have been through literally since COVID and all of the things we're talking about today. And, Dr. Kelly, back to you. Literally everything we've been talking about today has a lot to do with what we've been covering over the past four years. And this is where, you know, RFK Jr., for some of his faults, and there are some things he and I do not agree upon, but in general – The things that we have been discussing, he is right there with us across the board and is now literally, I hate to say it this way, but it's almost like he's on trial for the things that we've been discussing the past four years. Am I wrong in the way I'm saying that?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I think that's exactly right. And in fact, you know, it was one of the Republicans, Tom Tillis, I believe it was, who asked Kennedy if he was, quote, a conspiracy theorist. And Robert Kennedy, I think, answered correctly. So no, I've been called that. I've been called that because I said everything from the fact that the shots, quote unquote, vaccines would not stop you from contracting or transmitting COVID, that the masks didn't work, that social distancing was made up. that there was no rationale for the lockdowns. All of the things that we've been saying on this show that Bobby Kennedy was also saying was absolutely pilloried for doing so, was ridiculed and threatened and censored and shut down and called a conspiracy theorist. When it turns out, just like the three of us, we've been proven to be 100 percent correct. There's not a single one of those things that I just rattled off that hasn't been proven and acknowledged, by the way, by people like Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx and Rochelle Walensky and all of the people who have gotten away scot-free. So people like Bobby Kennedy paid a huge price, just as I did, for the five years of the debacle of COVID. He paid a huge price, and he's out there still today defending himself that he's not a conspiracy theorist.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Stephen, during the confirmation hearings, you know, one of the things that he was grilled on to, which I'd like to really just sometimes literally get in the face of some of these senators and literally ask them, you know, you are literally posing questions that. A, will most likely never come up, and B, are the type of questions that literally should go before the Supreme Court to even get answered, because they're really grilling him, Steve, on things like, hey, there's a particular state. They've got a law against abortion. A woman comes in, and she's bleeding. She's in the seventh month of pregnancy, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at the end of the day, is it correct? And would you, in your particular role— you know, require that state and literally, you know, force them to do things that they may not might not otherwise be doing. And Steve, they give these hypotheticals that, frankly, just aren't going to exist, in my opinion. And if they did, these are questions that need to go on up the food chain. And then they then they throw things out to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as to. well, you know, you have the force of law behind you. You know, you can actually, you know, quote, unquote, become the policeman in these situations. And he's coming back with, like, not to my knowledge. And by the way, Steve, not to my knowledge either.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, so a couple of things. There was a lot you said there. Number one, it technically, after the Dobbs decision, if the federal government tried to enforce a specific policy pro-abortion stance on a state, it would be considered unconstitutional. And he said that. Because Dobbs made it, you know, and back to the states, right? Right. So, you know, that's one thing. And the hypotheticals were a bit crazy, but consider this possibility. If I were writing Bobby's speech or response to questions... When they ask him the question, not necessarily about the woman who was dying in ED, because I think that doctors would make the right decisions there regardless, but he talked about suing the federal government over COVID vaccines for six-year-olds. And what I wanted to hear him say was, look, guys, you've all been concerned about making sure the Republicans know that I am pro-choice. But in reality, I am also pro-life. And the pro-life part of me doesn't want a six-year-old to get a vaccine that's going to cause myocarditis or cardiomyopathy or other turbo cancers. So you can consider me pro-life because I'm going to fight like hell to stop that from happening. And I think he probably saved lives by fighting that battle, and they're still trying to bring him down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly, again, some of the things they're throwing at him, I literally just want to get in their face and say, you guys are just a bunch of Evil knuckleheads that are being paid by big pharma. You're afraid you're going to lose your payday. So you're grasping at every straw to try to figure out how to not have this guy be in charge because that will affect your payday. And the questions they're throwing at him, literally, I mean, it's a one in a million chance of these things ever happening, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And some of the questions, for example, about abortion are just preposterous. And I think that the only thing Bobby Kennedy could have done better is to say the legislation has spoken, the Supreme Court has spoken. This is now an issue to the state. I, as the secretary of HHS, will have nothing to do with what decisions are made at the state level about abortion. So next question, please.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And furthermore, the other thing I would have said.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think he did pretty well on talking about, you know, he was pressed on, you know, do you have the authority to enforce basically some of these things? And his answer was, well, not to my knowledge. And of course, the senator, you know, she rolls back. Well, yes, you do. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking, well, first of all, I doubt that's ever been used. And second of all, I would question her on the fact that, you know, does he have policing ability in that role? Because I think he answered that correctly and said, you know, I've got a huge budget and things like that that I'm in control of, but I didn't realize I had a police force at my disposal. Because really, he doesn't, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. And the reality is, as I said at the beginning, these senators were not interested in getting an actual answer to any of this. They are terrified people that he's going to be confirmed for the reasons we said, because they are going to lose their payday, the gravy train that they've been on with big pharma. Elizabeth Warren really played her hand. She tried to get Bobby Kennedy to agree that he would not take money for suing any pharmaceutical companies for a period of four years after is out of his position as secretary of HHS, which is preposterous. First of all, she has no right to ask him to not take money to do work. But on top of that, he rightly pointed out, he said, you are asking me to not sue vaccine manufacturers. And she's out there, you know, foaming at the mouth saying, no, I'm not asking you to do it. Well, yes, you are, because who in their right mind would try to would sue a vaccine manufacturer and not be paid for it? And if he's not working, you know, the behest of the federal government, he has every right to do that. She's terrified that these vaccine manufacturers are going to get shut down. They are all terrified that Bobby Kennedy is going to reverse the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act that has provided blanket liability protection for all of these people. vaccine manufacturers this is terrifying to them likewise and it isn't just about vaccines and big pharma it's big ag it's the fact that we have you know agriculture and the food industry paying these senators for influence the fact that you know how do you get to have your particular product you know in the school lunch program or in the whisk program or the snap program And these senators know that will all go away under a Bobby Kennedy-governed HHS.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, I think the other thing that not only they're worried about, but the big networks are, because, by the way, if he gets confirmed and does what I think he'll do in regards to ads that are now run on TV, it will have a huge impact upon big networks. They're already struggling to have any kind of of, how should I say, influence upon the general public. We saw that even in the last election and what the White House just did, the press secretary just did in allowing a lot of non-traditional networks into the briefings and so on. You know, their days are numbered. And if you pull pharma ads, big pharma ads from the network, Steve, those guys are done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's interesting. I was hoping you'd bring this up because there's another side, as I agree with you, and that's motivation and incentive. I mean, clearly, Elizabeth Warren and the guys that were on that panel, first of all, were childish and foolish and ridiculous because they didn't even let him answer questions. And I wanted to have a serious conversation about it in front of the American public. The other thing is they're getting those questions, and those setups are coming from pharma itself.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I wanted to ask you guys, did you notice? I don't know where you've been, what TV you've watched this week. Have you noticed the PBM commercials for the last week?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I have.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don't watch a lot of TV, so the little bit that I have. Have you ever seen a PBM? Ever seen one before?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, and I was just going to say, Steve, the little bit of TV that I actually watch, network-type TV, for me to notice that, that means they're everywhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, that's right. So they're getting in the game, too, because they know their days are numbered. And, you know, I mean, ultimately, I mean, I don't know how pharma is going to do what they do. But I do know that if it doesn't change, just like we talked about, if it doesn't change, a conspiracy theorist. You know what, John, I already sent your application in for Rush to Reason as an alternative media getting a seat in the White House press briefing room. And I listed you as an alternative conspiracy media just to make sure we had it right.
SPEAKER 04 :
There we go. And, Dr. Kelly, again, Steve's right. And the other thing that he threw into that with the PBMs, the reality is if Robert Kennedy Jr. gets confirmed, it will be, and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say this, it will be the biggest shakeup we have seen in health care probably in my lifetime. Am I correct? Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I think you're absolutely correct. There's no question. And I think that there's synergy. It isn't as a standalone. Yes, he will absolutely shake up every one of the agencies that he oversees, which includes the CDC and the FDA and the NIH. All of those agencies report to him. But there's a synergy with the fact that with, you know, Kash Patel heading up the FBI and Tulsi Gabbard as DNI and, you know, Pete Hegseth at DOD. There's a synergy there that is saying we aren't messing around. There will be not a dime spent on stupid DEI programs. There will not be a dime spent on people who are not willing to work in person, you know, at their desk. whether it's in Washington or Atlanta or wherever they're supposed to be. There will not be a dime spent on wasted, stupid research. It is with all of these agencies working in consort. And so I think that Bobby Kennedy's is critically important because that is such a big part of our national expenditure is health care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Steve, and you're on the political side of this more so than, you know, Dr. Kelly and I are. When you're these senators and you're doing your best to make sure he doesn't get confirmed, and yet you've got RFK Jr.' 's old, you know, VP-elect Nicole Shanahan, who is a billionaire, coming out and saying, guys, you go down this path, I will spend every dime necessary to make sure you are primaried out the next time around. How much weight does that hold, Steve?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I don't think it holds as much as I'd like it to, and the reason why is most of the people that she's threatening are in uncompetitive areas. You know, like Elizabeth Warren's not going to lose in Massachusetts. Bernie's not going to lose in Vermont. White House is not going to lose in Rhode Island. I mean, it's hard. I mean, I wish it were true that she could have an impact, but I'm concerned that their war chests are way too big for her money to be a problem.
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting. And by the way, that's... I was... I was figuring you'd probably say that, but I was hoping you wouldn't because I was hoping that there would be an actual legitimate threat there and it would make these folks wake up a little bit. And Dr. Kelly, unfortunately, as Steve said, you're dealing with old, old, old political money. These folks have become extremely, extremely wealthy doing the things that they're doing. And to your point earlier, Dr. Kelly, they do not want to give that up. This is a big deal to them because of that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Exactly. And so they're going to fight tooth and nail. I am hopeful. The other thing you need to remember is there is going to be hell to pay on the Republican side if you go against Trump on this vote.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. No, thank you, Dr. Kelly, for saying if there's any of them. And Steve, you can chime in after Dr. Kelly. But if there's any of them that you could probably primary out, it definitely would be on the primary side or it would be on the Republican side, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I think that they're the ones who are a real risk. It's the the Lindsey Graham types. And I don't know that he was planning on running again, but it's going to be really unpleasant there in Washington if these guys go up against Trump on this and vote against Bobby Kennedy, who is such a big pick for them. You know, he he folded on Matt Gaetz. That was his one sort of that he was willing to leave behind. But if they vote and do not confirm Bobby Kennedy, God help them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Steve, your thoughts on that? No, I absolutely agree. I mean, do you think that there's some Democrats who could be vulnerable in one respect? And that is that if. If he does get confirmed and the next couple of years go really well from Kash Patel, from, you know, all the people that we've seen, Pete Hegseth, we do see major changes. Then I think that some of the Democrats, maybe not on Elizabeth Warren, but some of them become vulnerable because they kept saying it wouldn't work. He wouldn't do the job. He wasn't right for the job. And it ended up they ended up being wrong. And so at that point, they may be vulnerable, but I agree. I mean, I don't think you can be a Republican. I don't know, Murkowski in Alaska, it's time for her to go anyway. She's not really a Republican. I also think, I mean, Susan Collins has done some good things over time, but God, these people are in their 70s and 80s. I know Trump is too, but there has to be some turnover and leadership at some point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's a little different between being one of them, by the way, that keeps going in perpetuity versus Donald Trump, who will be there, you know, four years. Because, you know, in my opinion, anyways, there's a big difference between those two and their ages and what they're going to be doing along those lines. OK, really quick. I got to switch gears because I got a couple of things I want to ask you guys, especially you, Dr. Kelly, in regards to some health things. And Steve, this was a video that you sent out to both Dr. Kelly and I. And question, I guess, Dr. Kelly, is the Marburg virus, which we're seeing more and more coverage on, I guess would be the best way to say that. Give us your thoughts. I mean, is that the next big thing we need to actually worry about, not in getting sick from, but worrying about it in like a COVID-type situation?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, first of all, I don't think there's any reason for people to be particularly concerned at this point about Marburg. It's been around for many years. It's in the family of viruses like Ebola. It's a hemorrhagic fever. has a relatively high mortality rate, and as a result, doesn't spread very quickly or easily. Whether or not they will use it, I think the question you're asking is the important one. They are constantly looking for the next thing to drive fear into the population, to control and manipulate people's behavior, how they travel, whether they work, what they do. And to be able to foist a new vaccine, a new mRNA product on them, because that is always their motivation. So, you know, my bingo card includes Marburg virus, but it also includes Zika and malaria and RSV and bird flu and half a dozen other of these viruses that they could dust off at any time. I am unaware at this juncture, and I think it's a good thing. It doesn't mean it's not happening, but I am unaware that they are doing gain of function research on Marburg, which would be very problematic. Gain of function is any time you take a pathogen, a virus or a bacterium. manipulated in the laboratory to make it either more virulent or more transmissible or more resistant to treatment or anything of that sort. And if they start doing that, which I'm hoping will be shut down quickly, in this new administration, then we could have a problem. But at this point, I think it's a lot of fear-mongering.
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SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Steve House and Dr. Kelly Victory with us. Dr. Kelly, we'll start with you. Will, the fact that Trump has literally ordered communications cut off between CDC and WHO, what kind of a positive effect will that have on us at the end of the day?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I think it's very important because one of the things that was done under executive order was Trump leaving, withdrawing the United States from the WHO, something I certainly strongly support for reasons we've talked about many times. But you have to remember, there are an awful lot of people currently working at. In agencies like the CDC that do not agree with that, they are, you know, holdovers from the Biden and even the Obama administration. So the last thing we want is during this interim period before Bobby Kennedy or whoever can get in their clean house. at the CDC. You don't want people going ahead and sharing with their colleagues at the WHO things that we've been working on or continuing to have communication, continuing to collaborate on things. So I think it was very important to say, we're withdrawing from the WHO. Oh, and by the way, you are no longer to work with them, whoever you are at the CDC or the NIH or wherever else.
SPEAKER 04 :
Interesting. Steve, your thoughts. And, you know, you get to hear some more of probably the inside admin end of things. And what's the scuttlebutt there?
SPEAKER 03 :
So first of all, laying people off in the federal government or getting rid of them is difficult at the very least. I mean, it's just not a simple thing to do. Right. I think it'll take time. But I want to go back to Marburg for one quick second and say, look, you don't need gain of function for Marburg to be a problem in the United States. What you need is somebody who has the will to infect five people, 10 people, you know, in a small area or even over a broader area. And then you need the TV news to show them what hemorrhagic fever looks like. People will be scared to death. Do I really think there's people inside this government that would do something like that? We got turbo cancers, a COVID vaccine they knew wouldn't work. I'm not sure. So I'm still worried about Marburg.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK. All right. Your thoughts on the CDC and, you know, Trump basically putting a moratorium there to where they are not to communicate with the WHO, which I talked about the other day. I mean, the reality, Steve, is without the U.S., the U.N. and the WHO, either one exists because they can't fund themselves without us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that, and by the way, what do you mean they can't communicate with them? The WHO, everything they do is basically public. They can't do the private communications for sure. I would just as soon shut it down. I agree with Trump. Don't let them communicate. Put that off limits so that we can control our own destiny and our own narrative, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because reality, Dr. Kelly, and I get lots of things that come my way when it comes to the WHO, and I know in some cases it's probably a little out there, and some of it I have to kind of wonder, is this really what's going on? Although, I say all that to say this, one of the most evil organizations on planet Earth, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, no, the WHO is absolutely corrupt. I thought you were talking about the CDC.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, no, WHO.
SPEAKER 13 :
The WHO is the long arm of the Chinese Communist Party. They have nothing to do with health and wellness. They're concerned with world dominance and control. The head of the WHO, Dr. Tedros, was handpicked by the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, to run that. And the WHO is nothing more than their long arm. President Trump, under his first administration, tried to get us out of it. We got reentered under the Biden administration, and it's taken us nowhere good. They are hand in glove with the World Economic Forum. with the world elites like Bill Gates and Soros and other really bad actors, Klaus Schwab. And we've got to disentangle ourselves from it. The idea that we are spending any monies funding the WHO is absolute insanity. They do not have our best interests in mind.
SPEAKER 04 :
Agreed. Steve, back to you talking earlier about the federal workers being really, government workers being really hard to fire. And by the way, you are correct. I believe it's also why Donald Trump put out, if you would, a carrot where, hey, if you guys want to take this buyout, here you go. We'll get rid of you that way. On the same token, you've got somebody like the USDA inspector general that had to get escorted out of her office because she didn't believe, in fact, she could be fired. I mean, all I can think of, Steve, in that particular case is all-out arrogance where you think you can do nothing wrong and stay in your job indefinitely.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, first and foremost, you got to think about this, right? So Trump puts that out there, puts a carrot out there. And one of the U.S. senators in one of the hearings I listened to said, for all of you who have heard this from the president, just say no. Basically telling him, even though it might be in the best interest of the American people to have these jobs cut and the costs reduced, no, don't say yes. I mean, you shouldn't say yes to this. You should keep going and fight for more money from the taxpayers. You know, that's one thing. I just think you're right that the arrogance is so ridiculous at that level. They want constituents, and they also want a bureaucracy that supports them. It's that simple.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, Dr. Kelly, you've been around some of this to know exactly what we're talking about. You've seen, you've met some of these people, talked to some of these people where, to Steve's point a moment ago, literally, it is absolute arrogance. They think that they are literally above everyone, including the people that are actually writing their check, those of us that are taxpayers, by the way. They literally think they're above the law.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And I think people need to really understand just how inefficient our government is. There's a reason why our taxes are insane and we have the kind of debt that we have. And it's because we have this unbelievably bloated government full of arrogant people who do essentially nothing and live off of nothing. The taxpayers, they're living off of the people who are working at Waffle House and working construction jobs and paying their taxes dutifully every year so that some person can live in a paneled office or work in a paneled office in Washington and do nothing. They do think they're above the law. One of the senators asked Bobby Kennedy was aghast. that Bobby Kennedy was talking about cutting out 600 jobs from the CDC. And this, I can't remember who it was, said over and over again, 600 jobs, 600 employees of the CDC who are looking after our health and welfare. And Bobby Kennedy said, 600. Do you know how many people work at the CDC?
SPEAKER 1 :
91,000.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. There are 91,000 jobs. People who work at the CDC, I think we can get rid of 600 of them without feeling any worse for wear.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I know I'm not in that world. I don't know exactly every little thing they do and so on. But, Steve, I've got to believe that out of 91,000, I think that you and I could sit down and probably trim half of them, or am I wrong?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it's like we talked about last week, which agencies... need to exist is dependent upon what you believe they should do. Tulsi Gabbard talked today about the fact that the office of the DNI is 3,000 people. When it was originally conceived as an agency that was a go-between between the other 18 intelligence agencies, it was an agency that needed 25 people, 100 people. How the heck did it get to $3,000?
SPEAKER 04 :
Unreal.
SPEAKER 03 :
It got to $3,000 because they just keep getting more budget and they keep hiring more people.
SPEAKER 04 :
And yet at the end of the day, Dr. Kelly, they're not doing anything for the average person's health in America. Am I correct in saying it that way?
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. Let's look at, okay, you've got 91,000 people who work at the CDC, yet they haven't reviewed one autopsy report yet for somebody who died from a COVID vaccine. Not one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not one.
SPEAKER 13 :
They haven't reviewed the VAERS data. This is their job. You cut 91,000. If you can't run the CDC in this country with 20,000 people, I would cut it down by three-fourths. If you can't do it with 20,000 people, you are doing something very, very wrong.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I cannot. As you guys know, I can't argue that at all. Steve, you know, in the private sector, what government gets by doing, you'd never be able to do in the private sector, even at some of the largest companies out there. Am I right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'd ask a couple of real simple questions. Number one, are you aware of the fact that 90% of the healthcare dollar is spent on chronic disease and mental health issues? Yes. Number two, how have the outcomes in those categories improved since we have 91,000 people who are working on the center or for the Center for Disease Control? If we're controlling disease, how are we doing it with 90% of the largest health care spend in the world by more than double per capita. What are you doing at that agency?
SPEAKER 04 :
Dr. Kelly and Steve, both are to Kelly. I'll let you finish up. Reality is a lot of nothing and or nefarious things against the American public.
SPEAKER 13 :
100%. I think they have not been good stewards of our tax dollars, and they certainly have not come through in their jobs to improve the health and wellness of Americans. Bobby Kennedy pointed out multiple times, just again with COVID, we have 4.2% of the world's population, yet we had 16% of all the deaths from COVID-19. in the wealthiest country in the world. Something's very, very wrong, and the agencies that are being paid for by our tax dollars have failed. They are an absolute failure. They need to clear house.
SPEAKER 04 :
Agreed. Well, we will see, and I'll let you guys go. We'll see how things go as far as the confirmation goes. For all of you listening, please keep praying. We need this to happen. For all the reasons we've just talked about for the past, I don't know, 50-plus minutes or so, Dr. Kelly, I will let you go first. Thank you very much. And I'm sure we will be communicating off air about what happens next.
SPEAKER 13 :
Sounds great.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Dr. Kelly. Steve, you as well. Thank you so much for all of your insight. And yeah, like I just told Dr. Kelly, we'll see what happens next.
SPEAKER 03 :
The war did not end on November 4th or whatever the election day was. The war is not over, guys. You've got to stay in the fight. You've got to let senators and congressmen know we need these people leading. It's time.
SPEAKER 04 :
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening today. Up next, Virginia Allen joining us, Daily Signal. Virginia, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 18 :
I am well. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Always a joy having you, and we were going to talk today and still will about some of the deportation flights that are starting to happen, and we've seen some of the results. But before we get to that, and I didn't get a lot of time in the last hour to discuss and acknowledge the plane crash last night in D.C., American flight 5342, and we all saw what happened, and unfortunately, no survivors, and just a tragic night last night and day today.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's just really surreal, especially for all of us that live here in Washington, D.C., that fly in and out of Reagan Airport quite frequently, that drive across those bridges that were seen in the videos that were posted online daily. So it really feels obviously so bizarre for anything like this to happen at this point in history when we have so much technology and our aircraft are equipped so well in order to avoid this kind of thing. But then especially in Washington, D.C., where regulations over who and what flies over D.C. are so stringent. So I think the American people will be really eager to have answers. And of course, there will be a full investigation. But so much of the country right now is just grieving.
SPEAKER 15 :
These are
SPEAKER 18 :
So many lives, over 60 lives lost in a moment and just nothing you expect.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, not at all. On the same token, I'm not trying to be coy for all of you listening. And yes, it's a very tragic thing. Although life goes on, business has to take place. Things need to keep going. In regards to our conversation about illegal aliens, especially really the first ones are rounding up, as you know, Virginia, are the hardcore criminals. That's what I'm going to call them that have come across the border. And the reality is a lot of them are being rounded up as we speak, in some cases being flown back to their original country of origin, which, by the way, is where they should. On the same token, some of them, and I read today, were Guantanamo is now going to get opened back up, and there's going to be some of those that go there. I don't know, and I have not read. Maybe you know the criteria as to where. They'll go. I'm guessing that some of them that end up in Guantanamo have probably committed crimes here that they need to have restitution for. And I'm guessing that will be the criteria. But I'm not an expert there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah. I mean, Guantanamo, it's really operating as a holding facility when you're trying to do mass deportation like President Trump is trying to do, where we have 10 million people who have entered our country illegally over the past four years. And hundreds of thousands of those individuals are criminals, many of whom very violent criminals. Right. There has to be a process of, okay, we're getting these people on planes, we're taking them, but then you kind of have to process them out of the system, figure out, okay, where is their home country? Because they're not always shocking, but criminal legal aliens are not always honest.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was going to say, they're not really forthright in where their home of origin is, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
Exactly, exactly. So all of that takes time to get that information out. So Guantanamo is set up as a facility in order to, you know, instantly they can take 10,000 of these folks and, you know, you give them a few weeks and they can be prepped to take many, many more thousand. So it's a staging area that then flights would go out. Makes sense.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you. That's some good clarification on my end that I didn't. Quite really, you know, and again, there's so many things going on right now. And I try to read as much as I can. That was one of those areas where I'll just be frank. I did not go through all the details and read exactly what that's going to be used for. So thank you very much for the clarification. And I think what you just said a moment ago is very true as well, because one of the things I was wondering, I'm like, OK, wait a minute. You're a member of a cartel, which in a lot of cases they are, or you're a member of some well-known gang that, by the way, operates on a worldwide basis. What incentive is there for me at that point, if I'm one of these individuals, Virginia, to say where I came from?
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. It's interesting. I remember being down at the southern border, gosh, this was probably almost two years ago now, and just finding ID cards, passports from countries literally all over the world. And that was very, very common. It's a very common practice that illegal aliens would kind of shed that identity because they didn't, for one, they didn't want to have evidence of having passed through multiple countries where they could have stopped to claim asylum. Right. But then also they didn't want their identity to be known often to the U.S. government. So they would throw those documents away just before crossing. And so absolutely, when you're talking about arresting criminals, they're probably not going to be super honest. I watched one video of an arrest and, you know, the gentleman saying, I'm not going to say anything without a lawyer. So, you know, it's. going to present many, many challenges. And I think with Tom Holman at the helm of Sport Bazaar, he's certainly up for the task and has meant no words about saying, hey, the process might be long, it might be hard. At the end of the day, we're going to get this done. But it is a process and it's a tricky one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. And one of those things that I was thinking in the back of my mind, I haven't said much of this on air because I'm thinking, OK, to your point, a lot of these folks end up here. They have shed blood. and or maybe even picked up new identity along the way. I mean, we have to remember these are hardened, in a lot of cases, hardened criminals. We're not talking about, you know, the folks that are doing petty theft and things like that, Virginia. We're talking about those literal hardened criminals. Some of them ended up here in Aurora, Colorado, by the way, and you saw what happened here with the big bust that happened on Sunday morning early. Reality is these are not nice people, let's just say that. And so I've always wondered, okay, I get all of that, but how do you determine who's who? I mean, these guys don't have to tell you the truth as to who they are and their name and where they've come from. I mean, do we have a system of, you know, identification through fingerprints and things along those lines? I mean, do you know, Virginia, how that works?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so it is much easier when we are working with criminal legal aliens who are originally from countries that are friendly with the U.S. Because countries that are friendly with the U.S., some of them will share their criminal databases with us. So we have access to the information that they have. We can run fingerprints through those databases. But not all countries do that. And that's where it gets tricky. And that's where you need that additional intelligence. that it gets much more complicated and takes a lot longer when you're dealing with countries that don't want to share information with the United States or work with us at all, for that matter.
SPEAKER 15 :
Makes total sense. And that's where I think to a lot of people, they think, oh, it's easy. Go round them up and send them back. Yeah, time out. for a moment. This is a bigger chore than what anybody thinks, especially, and I want to make sure I add this in, Virginia, especially given the open border policy we've had under the last administration and the reality of the fact that, I don't know any other way to say it, We've literally given them not only an open door, but then in a lot of ways have literally hidden them, if you would, or given them the ability to just stay under the radar. In fact, gone one step further, here in Colorado, we've had our news media, we've had our governor. We've had officials in the city of Aurora where these particular gangs have hung out. And the reality is we, as conservatives, myself included on this program, have been told, oh, you guys are Looney Tunes. You have no idea what you're talking about. These gangs don't exist. This is just a figment of your imagination. There's nothing nefarious going on there. So literally, you've had an administration and the cronies thereof basically telling the rest of us that, oh, there's nothing to see here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it's unbelievable when we know there's MS-13 gang members active across the United States. Trende Aragua, a prison gang founded in Venezuela, active across the United States, which you all know very well in Colorado. So, I mean, this is a widespread issue, and you're absolutely right. I mean, it's bizarre in some ways to see these states, these cities, who have said, no, we're not going to participate anymore. with the federal government in deporting legal aliens. In the case of California, I mean, they have put together literally a flesh fund of $25 million in order to help provide legal services to criminal legal aliens and illegal aliens in general to avoid deportation. I mean, talk about rolling out the welcome mat to criminal legal aliens to say, Hey, it's okay. You can just come here. I mean, if I lived in one of those cities, I think I would just be so incredibly offended that you're literally welcoming criminals into my city at what cost? At the cost of my safety, my family, my kids? It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER 15 :
I fully agree. Daily Signal, again, for those of you listening, please follow them. In this case, Virginia is the news producer for Daily Signal and host of the Daily Signal podcast and Problematic Women, so I would encourage you to listen to those things. And, again, go to the Daily Signal, subscribe. Actually, if you do that, it shows up in your inbox pretty much every day, Virginia, which we appreciate you doing, by the way.
SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. No, it's our pleasure and joy to keep on reporting on these critical issues. I had the privilege just recently to sit down with Borders R. Tom Holman on the Digital Signal podcast. So if you're looking for somewhere to start and you're fascinated by this issue, start with that conversation because we dig into all the details of his plans and what the priorities will be for these deportations.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Last question I have for you. And this is a little bit off topic, but because Daily Signal and the fact that you're what I consider and I'm sure you would define yourself as an alternative to mass media news source. And given what the White House press secretary just said a couple of days ago about now allowing those of you like that a seat at the table. Question I have is, have you had a seat at the table prior to some of these press conferences inside of the White House? And if not, will you now take advantage of that?
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Absolutely. So we are so excited for these changes and we experienced the day with people. My team experienced firsthand being pushed out of the white house under the Biden administration. My colleague, Fred Lucas had white house press credentials, um, and then lost them under, under Biden. And so now to have an administration that is saying with welcome arms, Hey guys, come on back in. We want these alternative media sources. is really exciting. And here at The Daily Signal, we are going to benefit, but not only us, so many small news agencies and even podcasters. I was excited to hear that, that they're going to be bringing podcasters in so many ways. That's the new source, one of the new sources of news that people are relying on. So it is a new day in the world of media, and it's exciting to see an administration that's really embracing that.
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Well, we appreciate all that you do, and I'm sure we'll be hearing some of those things, you know, straight from the horse's mouth, if you would, in Virginia. I appreciate all you guys are doing, and we'll keep having you back on.
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Absolutely. Thanks so much.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, in our next segment, we've got a lieutenant colonel, retired, that will be coming on. We'll talk a little bit more about the plane crash that happened last night in D.C., Dulles Airport and right outside. And, again, I don't know exactly what he'll have to say or what he'll be able to fill us in on. Most of you know the story. You've seen some of the reports. You've probably seen even some of the videos. And, again, that was American Airlines Flight 5342. And what we know is they were on descent. Everything had been going well, no problems. And there was a Black Hawk helicopter that was doing some training maneuvers. And this is the part that drives me crazy. All of the stupid conspiracy theories that are out there that I've had to read through today, please, for the love of God, until you know exactly what went on, please refrain from being stupid. And I mean that sincerely. Please refrain from being stupid because most of that comes from our side, not others. And I understand that, you know, Black Hawk helicopter is equipped with all sorts of, you know, gear and this, that and the other. But you weren't there. You have no idea what was going on. You don't know what the control tower had told them. There's some reports that about 30 seconds prior to impact, the control tower had asked them to look for an incoming plane. Again, folks, you don't have that exact timeline. You have no idea whether that's accurate or not. You don't know what was going on in the cockpit of the Blackhawk at that time. You don't know if they were using night vision or not. You have no idea what was going on at that given time. You're speculating. And I've read all of the stupid comments on, well, you know, this was a direct hit. This was planned. This was this. This was that. You don't have the foggiest idea. So please don't be stupid and post those things because you don't know. Literally, you do not know. Don't be a moron. And refrain from reposting something else as much as you might want it to be true. Until you know what it is, don't post it. Don't be that person. Don't be a moron. And by the way, today I asked several people that basically fly for a living or have and asking their opinion as to what could have happened. And, you know, we'll hear that from Lieutenant Colonel Allen here in just a few minutes. Allen Campbell is going to join us. But I'm guessing he'll likely have the same type of advice for you all that I have right now is until we know more details on it, refrain from saying things that would be extremely ignorant and stupid at the end of the day. Joe, what's going on?
SPEAKER 03 :
John, as you know, I'm a licensed commercial pilot, and I was able to listen to the exchange between the control tower and the helicopter pilot about an hour ago. And it was in real time. There was no delays or anything. And at one point, so the tower is communicating with the helicopter pilot, and she asks the pilot, the helicopter pilot, do you have the landing aircraft in sight? And the helicopter pilot says, affirmative. And then she replies to him, maintain visual separation. And the helicopter pilot replies, Roger. I then looked at the radar tracks of the two aircraft. The landing aircraft was coming straight in for the runway. He's just on what's called a glide slope coming right straight into the runway. And the helicopter that had been over the Potomac River, which is right parallel to and adjacent to this runway, you watch the radar track of the helicopter. For some reason... And he's flying in the exact opposite direction. The jet's coming in from one direction, let's call it right to left, and the helicopter is going left to right. And had he stayed on his track, they would have just passed each other like two ships in the night. But as he passes beyond the approach end of the runway, the landing run, he turns into the path of the landing jet and T-bones him. So clearly when he said, I have the aircraft in sight, if he did, he had a different aircraft in sight.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. And my gut feeling is, as busy as that is and everything going on, and Joe, I know we don't have these things happen very often for lots of reasons, and you know more about that than even I. There's lots of things that take place, and there's lots of preemptive things that can happen inside of the cockpits and so on. But Joe, at the end of the day, people still make mistakes.
SPEAKER 03 :
They do. And John, I've had some near misses. You know, I've probably flown in and out of Centennial Airport, I don't know, 500 times because it was my home airport. And I've had several near misses. I'll give you an example. I was coming straight in one day and it was a calm day. So normally you take off and land and normally all the traffic goes in the same direction because you always take off and land into the wind. So landing aircraft and departing aircraft normally take off. But on this particular day, it was calm. And one pilot had asked to depart on the same runway that I was coming in, been cleared to land on. So he's taking off at me. So the tower controller cleared the pilot immediate right turn after liftoff. And I'm coming in. I've got wing lights, and they're back and forth, like flashing left, right, left, right, left, right. And I'm coming straight in, and I see this guy, and I'm watching for him. He doesn't make the turn as instructed by the controller. And the controller who has radar can see both of us, even though she may not be looking in our direction. She's got a radar screen that shows, you know, every aircraft in and around the airport. She doesn't notice that this guy has not made the turn. So I have to take evasive action because this guy is coming straight at me. And then I radioed the tower. I said tower just had a near miss. You know, the departing aircraft, you know, did not make the turn. So, yes, that's one of several examples, John, but that's the most. Stark won. It was on a clear day, sunny day, not a cloud in the sky. And he made the mistake of not following the controller's instruction to make an immediate right turn. And she didn't notice on her screen that he didn't make the turn. you know, there's two compounding errors.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we've seen some, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, make light of last night by any means, Joe, because I wouldn't do that. But we've seen in the past several years, lots of near misses that have happened under the watch of the current, you know, FAA control tower folk and so on. And again, you have to wonder, and I think Donald Trump was alluding to this today, even, you know, how much has the the dei hiring thing and i've got my own personal story of somebody that i know very well that didn't go into that field because of the dei thing that had been implemented you know years ago joe when it came to you had to hire this person versus the most qualified and so you have to wonder because of some of those policies of the past is that part of what happened last night and again i don't know right and john on that near miss by the way they uh fox they did run a statistic on that
SPEAKER 03 :
We've been averaging three near misses. These are three reported near misses. Now, I never filled out, like on this one I just gave you, John, that was clearly a near miss in my case, but it never got recorded. But when there are two commercial jets and there's a collision, and there are warning systems that will go off in the tower when there's a near miss, and the tower is required to log those and report those. But there have been we have been averaging three near misses per year for about the past 15 years.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. In other words, unfortunately, it finally happened. And I'm sure from here on out, there will be some most likely. Well, I can already tell you under President Trump, there will be some changes made moving forward. No doubt about that. And I you know, again, we've got a special guest, a lieutenant colonel coming on this from the Air Force and the things that we'll know more of this than than probably possible. you or I do, but when it comes to the Blackhawk, I'm assuming because that's a military aircraft, it may not have all of the same things communicating back to the tower that a commercial airliner would have. Am I wrong in thinking that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you are, John, because, again, he was clearly in communication with the tower, but here's, I think, a mitigating factor. They were doing night vision training where you put the thing down, and then the night vision, even though it's good for seeing things on the ground, In my opinion, if you're looking out the window without those, you're much easier to distinguish between near and far lights. When you're looking through night vision, you see a bright spot, but you don't know if that bright spot is 100 feet away or 1,000 feet away.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think his ability to distinguish which aircraft he was looking at was impeded by the fact that he— had his night vision goggles on.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would agree. And again, I'm not, you know, we'll listen to our next quote-unquote expert because this is something that I'm sure he's very familiar with because that's something, Joe, that's literally, you know, out of my wheelhouse.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and one thing, I know you're going to go, John, I would say that the military should not be conducting night training exercises within five miles of a busy commercial airport.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was my first question, but who am I?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, but, John, it's common sense. Thank you. I mean, it's a high traffic area. You know, sometimes they're like busy, almost like a bee's nest. I've come into Centennial on a Saturday afternoon. John, it's like a swarm of aircraft. Literally, there's, you know, on the right, on the left, above you, below you. And I wouldn't be one of conducting any sort of training exercise within five miles of Boston Logan or Denver International at night. I think that's just stupid.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, our next guest flew 21 1⁄2 years in the United States Air Force with over 3,000 hours and then became a commercial airline pilot after that. So I'm sure he'll have some insight.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. John, what time is it coming on?
SPEAKER 15 :
Next, as soon as we're done with the commercial.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. I'll be listening.
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All right, we are back. Thanks for listening. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Retired Lieutenant Colonel Alan Bullitt Campbell joining us now. And welcome to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you for having me. I'm sorry that it's under circumstances like this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and yeah, thank you so much for joining us, really, on such short notice as well. Author of My Life Above the Clouds. You are, and I said this a moment ago, but for those of you maybe just tuning in here just in the last few minutes here, 21 1⁄2 years, 3,000 hours for the United States Air Force and Florida Air National Guard, and then you also went on to fly commercially for about 37 years. So you know a little bit about what happened last night.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I do. I know about the commercial airplane side of it. I don't know about the Army helicopter side. But that's all going to be uncovered. They're looking into that. They'll start scripting off the obvious things that weren't involved. But then they'll start looking at the specific things that were involved in this. And I just think it's really bad for the commercial airplane because I think they did everything exactly correct as they were supposed to. I think for some reason the Army got in the way, who knows why, altitude or latitude or whatever it was. They will uncover all of that, but it's just a tragedy.
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And this is something where you may know, because I don't. And I was talking to one of my listeners here a moment ago who's also a pilot. So we were having a discussion just before you came on. And I maybe I shouldn't assume, but I'm assuming that the Blackhawk, you know, the Army Blackhawk doesn't have the same type of avoidance systems and so on that a commercial airliner would have and maybe can't even communicate back to the tower in that way. Or am I wrong in thinking that?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I really don't know. I flew military airplanes for the Air Force, but the Army Black Hawk, I really don't know. They were flying VFR, which is visual flight rules. They do that regularly up and down the river there. They were a little bit off the altitude, I think. They were supposed to be down at like 300, 200 feet, and they were up to nearly 400 feet. Who knows why? I've also heard stories that they had the night vision goggles on. I don't know why they would do that with all the lights in the Washington, D.C. area and at that airport. That seems inappropriate, but that will be uncovered in this investigation.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's one where, yeah, I'm glad that you mentioned that because, again, I'm not – I've never been in the military. I've had – Some family members, my son has been. I've never experienced night vision, so I have no idea what that looks like outside of TV and movie shows and so on. But what I've heard and what I understand is actual light shining at you is actually a deterrent when you have your night vision on. Am I correct in thinking that?
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I would assume that. We actually wore them down in Panama, and we would fly in a two-seat airplane. So one guy would have the goggles on. The other guy would not have goggles on, and that way you could pretty much cover everything. We actually went up in formation with a drug-carrying airplane, had all of its lights off. The guy with bare eyes could see absolutely nothing. The guy with the night vision goggles could read the numbers on the side. He saw a guy get up and walk down the aisle. He could see him through the windows. The difference is just stunning.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, amazing, amazing. And like you say, there'll be a lot of things, and I'm always one, and I reminded my listeners of this in the last segment, that I'm always one to not judge. I have no idea what actually happened. I'm also not a conspiracy person. I just don't want to go down those paths. There's not enough information right now. Again, I just – we don't know. I mean, I should say I – We, we as a country and as a world right now, just don't know. We need more information to really determine, you know, what was going on and whose fault, you know, if any. I mean, there's got to be somebody's error here in whose was it. I just don't know at this point.
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yes and i have some suspicions and they brought up the term dei i wouldn't even go there yet they've got to do all this investigation they've got a lot of information and they've got to determine what was an issue and what was not an issue and so i think everybody needs to be patient and unfortunately this is good for two or three days and then it kind of loses its steam right they'll know all about this in a few days they've got the recorders on the commercial airplane they'll have all kinds of information So basically we just need to stay tuned.
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Now, on the commercial side, and this was a question I did want to ask you because this is where you've got a lot of experience. You're flying, you're coming in for the landing, you're doing everything you're supposed to, and then out of nowhere, all of a sudden, this Blackhawk shows up. I am assuming, and again, I've never flown an airplane, something I've always wanted to do but never have, but I'm assuming it's much like being in a car. As you're entering an intersection, somebody runs a light, and all of a sudden, you're there, and there isn't anything you can do. Is this pretty much the similar situation?
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I would say that pretty much tells the story because the commercial pilots are focused on that runway. That's a busy airport. I understand they were supposed to land on the north runway, which would take you right off of the river, but they went to the other runway because there was a delayed takeoff or something like that. That'll all come out. But if they did that, then that put them further to the right, into the middle of the river, further to the north, and that's what
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helped the conflict if they'd landed on the normal runway this would have never happened okay i didn't you know what you just told me something that i had not heard either and that's that's great information and you know the other thing too and i did we did talk about this in the last segment this is something i wanted to get your input on as well and again for all of you listening we're talking to retired lieutenant colonel alan a bullet campbell and has been behind the um How should I say? It's been behind the windshield of an airplane many, many, many hours. And you could probably tell us total how many that is. But from what I'm seeing in my notes, there's a lot of hours there. Let's just say let's just say that. And the question that I've got for you is, you know, we hear of, you know, near misses and a lot of them are reported even in the news. But I'm guessing there is a ton that are not. And I'm not trying to say that, you know, this was. bound to happen because of all the near misses we've had but it sure seems like we've had an awful lot of them especially in the past i don't know decade or so am i wrong in thinking that no i don't think you're wrong there's always going to be some errors and mistakes but
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you have to keep this a little bit in perspective, because when you land at the San Francisco airport, the runways are fairly close, and you can actually have two airplanes on parallel runways, I mean, within like 500 feet of each other. It's almost like you're in formation, but you're totally under control. When you go to an airport like this, it's really different, and then when you put in an Army, a black helicopter at night, it would be very, very difficult for those commercial pilots to even see it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good point, good point. This is great information, and I want to remind all of my listeners, and I'm really big on this. Lieutenant Campbell, I mean, the reality is everybody's reeling in. There's all sorts of speculation. People want to believe something in some cases where that may or may not even be true. They see a post. They want to go ahead and further that on on social media. And my advice to folks is just don't do it. Until you know exactly what's going on, don't be that person that forwards something that may very well be false.
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Well, and don't be afraid of aviation. And you look at commercial aviation, it's probably the safest thing on the planet.
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True.
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You know, driving on the interstate or riding in a taxi or riding a motorcycle are much, much more dangerous than riding in a commercial airplane. When you talk about the numbers of when the last major accident was, they are safe. And so people just need to move on. The story will come out. This was unique beyond belief and should have never happened. And it's rare.
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All right, author of My Life Above the Clouds. Let's not forget about that. For those listening, what are they going to find when they get the book My Life Above the Clouds?
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You know, the whole point of that is my life has been unique, but I want to spread the word to kids. Read this book and see how an ordinary, regular guy that grew up in a small town did all of this in his life, and it just tells you, And one of my expressions is, go for it, because there's incredible things you can do. It doesn't have to be aviation, lots of different choices, but don't get on drugs, don't get arrested, don't make these stupid mistakes, and then focus and go for it.
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You know what? Very well said. Thank you. Man after my own heart. I believe the same way. I mean, I'm like you. I'm a guy that never thought I'd sit in a seat like this. I've been a small business owner, came out of the automotive world, was an auto technician for the majority of my life, and then figured out I needed to learn how to run a shop and not necessarily be the worker in the shop and learn the hard way. And at the end of the day, though, I'm like you. Anybody can do anything they set their mind to. Just decide what you want to do and then go do it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly, and it's the greatest country on the planet. Amen. You can actually do things like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Amen. Lieutenant Colonel Alan Bullitt Campbell, thank you again for your time. I know it was short notice, but I appreciate you being with us today.
SPEAKER 05 :
My pleasure. Thank you.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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Okay, on Tuesday, by the way, when there were a lot of folks down at the Capitol testifying against the basic outlaw of a lot of guns in Colorado, and it's not just assault-type weapons and things along those lines. It's literally a lot of different guns. While that was going on, This is what Democrats do, folks. I don't know how else to say it. in Colorado. It would increase the legal age to purchase to 21, mandate ammo be locked up and only accessible with the assistance of the vendor, and new regulations around shipping ammo to Colorado, most of which directly conflict with existing federal laws. The bill has not yet been scheduled for a public hearing, but it has been assigned to the House Business Affairs and Labor Committee. So, like Democrats do... While something's going on over here with one hand, and everybody's distracted doing that, they're over on the other side doing this. Slime balls. Slime balls. No other word for them. These people have no scruples. They do not care. Their goal is to have an outright ban on guns and ammunition in the state of Colorado, like all lefties want, all Marxists want. It's the only way they can take over is to de-arm us. Trust me when I say that. That is their end goal. And these people will stop at nothing to make that happen. Total, total slimeballs. All the more reason why... We've got to have a better plan of attack in Colorado when it comes to elected officials and how to get them elected. We've got to have somebody at the helm. Yes, I'm talking about the Colorado GOP. We need someone at the helm that will actually have a mission and a plan and the ability to make things happen because we don't have that right now. And despite what anybody else out there would say, and there's people out there trying to counter what I say here on a routine basis, they're doing their best to try to change that narrative of what I have in regards to our current leadership. Good luck. Good luck. You're preaching to your own. You're not even trying to reach those that aren't listening to you, which, by the way, there's a lot that don't. And the reality is your comebacks and your rebuttals to the things that I talk about on a routine basis, A, they're falling on deaf ears. B, they're completely false. They're wrong. They're inaccurate. They're not correct at all. And I will encourage any of you that are listening that are on that side, call in and debate me. More than happy to. I'll even do it when Andy's not here. More than happy to have a debate on any of these things. Because keep in mind, even prior to Andy, I was the one calling for Dave's removal before Andy. Andy got on board after me. So those of you that, by the way, criticize Andy for his stance on things, I was first. I was first. I called for Dave's removal long before anyone else, especially in media, did. Now, most media in Colorado, besides a few podcasters that frankly don't amount to anything, outside of those folks, everybody wants him gone because he's done nothing but tear this party apart, not bring it together, despite... what some of you might think. And in your fallacy of wishes of what you think might actually be true, you're completely wrong. And that includes you, Hope. Hope Scheppelman, the vice chair. You're completely wrong. You're delusional in your thoughts. You're thinking one thing, and it's not true. It's not factual. And the data will show it. And you'll say the data proves your point. No, actually, it's quite the opposite. So we need solid leadership in Colorado that will help defeat some of the things that we're up against. As I just said a moment ago, which I haven't even heard anybody yet talking about this particular ammunition bill that has been submitted and is now going to go to committee. This is the kind of stuff that Democrats do, and we have to be better on our side at defeating these things. But, folks, when we have really no presence at the Capitol, which we don't, I know we've got a few people down there that will do their very best, and I'm very happy they're there, and I'm not trying to beat them up at all. It's hard. This is like that football team where the other team has already scored 50 points and you haven't gotten across the goal line yet. It's a very defeating place to be in, and it's a very hard thing to do, go to the Capitol every day knowing that the other side outweighs you that much. So I admire those that are going down and doing their very best to represent us as conservatives in Colorado. And, yes, I appreciate each and every one of you that do that, and I wish we had more of you. And I wish we had leadership that thought enough of you even to help others like you get elected because we would rather spend money at the Colorado GOP on attorneys and legal fees and dumb stuff like that rather than actually help local candidates get elected and do what we can to coach and instruct and help them with all of those things. We don't. We don't because we don't have anybody that's a true leader. And by the way, this includes those folks that are on that side, even some of the folks I just mentioned that are out there in quasi media roles. They're not leaders either. They're wannabes. They're not leaders. Trust me, they're not leaders. And if you want to know what it takes to be a leader, go read some of the leadership books that are out there, mostly by John Maxwell. And then you tell me if these individuals, Dave himself, are leaders. I will tell you that, no, they don't fit the definition in any way, shape, or form. Not in any way, shape, or form. So I know I hammer on that a lot, but it matters. I talked to a good friend of mine the other day that was asking me, hey, I hear you talk about some of the stuff going on inside of the Colorado GOP, and can you explain to me why you feel the way you do and why it's such a big deal? I know you do a lot of that on air, but just one-on-one, how does this work and why is it such a big deal? So I went through. my thoughts on everything and how we can get some folks elected and how there's times we need to probably not be. And I know some of you on the on the right, the hardcore right are going to have a hard time with what I'm going to say here. But in some cases, you can't be as principled as you are or you're not going to win that election. And we need to win elections. We need to still take somebody that's eight out of 10 and get them in office and not worry about whether they're a 10 out of 10. And yes, that's that's my strategy. That's me talking. And I know that goes against the grain of what some of you out there listening may think. But trust me, I'm right. You're wrong. You will not win and get across the goal line doing it the way you're doing. It's proven. The data shows it. And if you don't believe me, go look at the data for yourself. It's not that hard to figure this out. So, yeah, the conversation I had and I explained everything. And by the way, when I was done explaining things after about, I don't know, 10 minutes or so, it was like, okay, that all makes sense. I get that. Yeah, that's what we should be doing. And I may talk about this a little bit more in the next hour, but the reality is we're not doing those things because we don't have leadership in Colorado at all because, A, they don't know what being a leader really is, and they for sure don't know how to implement things. And this has nothing to do even with the money sides. 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All right, next hour, Stacey Washington's going to join us at the top of the hour. We've had her on before, and she is a ball of fire. We'll talk to her next, so don't go anywhere. By the way, she's host of the nationally syndicated SiriusXM radio show, Stacey on the Right. So we'll talk to her in just a moment. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We'll be right back.
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All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Charlie's doing his best to get a hold of Stacey Washington, but again, with everything that's happened in the last, you know, 18 hours or so, almost 24 now, she may be tied up. So if we get her, we do. If not, we will move right along. The Fed, Federal Reserve, decided yesterday to leave interest rates alone. Yeah, I think it's a knucklehead move. I've said that all along. Everybody knows my feelings on the Fed. Not my favorite, by the way. I think I pretty much am in the same camp as Donald Trump, by the way. Because what he said, Donald Trump, was because Jay Powell and the Fed failed to stop the problem they created with inflation, I will do it, Trump said in a post on his social media platform on Wednesday. Now, Trump has limited powers to do so, although if he keeps doing some of the things that he's done already in regards to the spending end of things, federal government-wise, yeah, you will see some things come out of that. Not right away. It will take a little time for that to work its way through, but you will see some things change. come of that. And frankly, the Fed yesterday should have went ahead and lowered them at least a quarter of a point, if nothing else, just to signal that. But they won't. It's not what the Fed does. And you guys know my feelings on the Fed. And they were way late in raising rates. And now, in my opinion, we talk about this a lot with some of the experts that come on our program, the financial experts, Scott Garlis and so on. I think they've been way too slow in getting them lowered. They've got this target of inflation they want to see happen. And again, what the Fed doesn't understand, and I've talked about it a ton, is they're on Wall Street, we're on Main Street. And what they don't understand is by keeping rates where they're at, they're even on their own creating inflation. And I've explained why that is. And for some odd reason, they don't seem to get that. Although, like I've said, I've even surprised some folks with this. When you look at the Fed board, with the exception of, I believe, two of them, who have worked in institutional banks and some of the trading and stuff on Wall Street, and they've kind of been in that world. Outside of that, the rest of them have been in academia. I'm not exaggerating. The rest of them are in academia. They've worked as professors and they've done things along those lines and so on. None of them, and I'm very clear on this, none of them have ever written a paycheck. I told that somebody the other day, and they laughed. It's true. They haven't. They've never written a paycheck. They have no idea what that's like. In other words, they've never owned a business. They have no idea how some of the basic things work when it comes to the economy. They see the big picture. But they know really nothing about how the everyday mechanics of it works because they've never lived it. Keep in mind, a lot of these folks that are on the Fed board come from very wealthy backgrounds. It's why they get where they're at. They go to Ivy League schools. They learn all of the economy principles in those schools. And then they go into either, in this case, academia, or they may go to work for one of the Wall Street banks. And that's their qualifications for running the Fed. I really hope Donald Trump thinks about that this time around when it comes time to replace Jerome Powell in, I believe, about 18 months or so. I really hope he thinks through that and appoints somebody that has some street smarts rather than just academia smarts. Now, given who he's appointed to a lot of these other things, and we talked with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House in the first hour about those like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., and will they get confirmed or not? Honestly, I don't know. In the case of RFK Jr., we can only lose three Senate votes, but we may very well pick up one with Fetterman, and that would not shock me. I could see Fetterman voting for RFK Jr. And possibly... Another one or two Democrats doing the same. We'll see. The problem, and we've talked about this with Dr. Kelly and Steve House many, many times. The problem is the amount of politicians, senators that are on the dole from Big Pharma. And that doesn't even include the health insurance aspect of things. We're just talking big pharma. Some of them have taken millions of dollars, and I'm not exaggerating, millions of dollars in donations, and very little of that gets talked about. Charlie was asking me at one of our breaks, is it proper, is it legal for somebody like RFK Jr. to, after a question has been asked... Can he ask them one? So in other words, could you ask Bernie Sanders, well, you know, Bernie, I have a question for you. Is it true that you've taken $1.9 million from Big Pharma? I don't think he can do that because I think it can only go one way. But I would, if I were RFK Jr., I would figure out a way to throw that back. at not only Bernie Sanders but Warren Ock, who's taken $1.7 million, and Elizabeth Warren, who's taken $1.2 million, and I can go down the list. Michael Bennett, by the way, who's been strong from Colorado on some of these, he's taken three-quarters of a million dollars. So isn't it interesting that those that are the most opposed to RFK Jr., I mean, it's no shock. Those that are the most opposed are those that have taken the most money from Big Pharma. It just goes right along with what Dr. Kelly Victory and myself and Steve House have been talking about now for several months. When we had a good feeling that Donald Trump would nominate RFK Jr. to be head of HHS, we knew this was coming because we know where the dole is, how much money is going out, and it's huge. So, yeah, it's not ironic that those are the most opposed and slinging the most mud at RFK Jr. are also on the most dole. In fact, we should have a law, in my opinion, we should have a law that in this particular case, where you're going to confirm somebody that will take, most likely take those donations away, you shouldn't be able to even vote. You should be removed from it. You shouldn't even get a say. That's not how our system works. I get that. But those are some of the changes, by the way, that need made in our system. You'd clean up a lot of things if you do something like that. And again, even those of you that are on the left. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And, by the way, appreciate you all listening. Thanks for the text messages. I'll try to answer those as quickly as I can. And a couple of you are asking questions. questions i'll answer those as soon as i can next break as much as i possibly can some of you're asking for some specific things that don't necessarily apply on air so i will answer those as much as i can and uh one of you sent me a nice tweet by the way let me read this one really quick uh that was that was from rfk jr uh calling out bernie sanders to his face Almost all the members of this panel, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests, which thank you, by the way, for sending me that. I had not seen that yet. I don't have time to watch all of the confirmation hearings and so on. So, yeah, when you guys have things like that you want to send me, absolutely. Thank you for doing that. I appreciate that. That makes me feel a lot better because they need called out on that because they're a bunch of stinking hypocrites. Well, they're worse than that, but don't get me started. You've heard me talk most of the week on how incompetent and ignorant most politicians are. Sorry, I have no other way to say it. And when you look at the confirmation hearings and some of the questions that are thrown out and – Most of those, by the way, very, very scripted prior to them even saying it. So they may they may even sound like they're smart. Trust me, their aides and the people around them in big pharma have put together all of these questions that they're now supposed to be asking where it makes them sound smart. Trust me, they're not. If the roles were reversed. much to Charlie's question earlier, if the roles were reversed and they had to sit there and answer the questions that RFK Jr. or any of us would put at them, they would be lost. They would not be able to answer the majority of questions. That I am confident of. Like I've said all week, they're just not that smart. Speaking of somebody that's not very smart, this one probably slipped through the cracks. I was going to talk about this earlier in the week, and I didn't get a chance to, but I can now. Colorado high school coach, and let me finish the story here, and then I'll give you my input on this. But Colorado high school coach suspended after displaying Palestinian flag during a game against a Jewish school. The coach is being accused of anti-Semitic actions during the game. And so you read the whole article. And what's interesting, this is from Nine News, but I've read some of the others that are out there. This was a game, by the way, that took place not that long ago against Denver Academy of Torah, and they are primarily a Jewish school. Supposed to be a routine matchup, but it took an unexpected turn when, according to school leadership, the Lotus School for Excellence and the head coach there brought out a Palestinian flag, which we all know what that means when it's all said and done. And he hung that up, by the way, at the start of the game, something that he had never done in any other game. Brandon, who is with the Jewish Colorado, questioned the timing and setting of the display. Here is someone that's in a position of influence, a role model for students, using this moment simply being near Jewish students to make a geopolitical statement. Actually, it's a hateful statement, in my opinion. That's not what a basketball game is about. And his last name was Radanier, Brandon Radanier. That's who said that. And what's interesting about this, this whole article, by the way, as I read through it, I'm thinking, okay, so who is this guy? Why is this coach's name not being mentioned in this article? Because to me, this is big enough news. Everybody else's name is in here. The athletic director of this particular school is in here. Why isn't the coach in here? Which, by the way, doesn't take much to find. So it wasn't that... 9 News didn't ask or didn't seek it. They just chose not to put it in. And I'm not shocked. This is 9 News, of course. This is Marxist 9 News, who, by the way, would probably fly the flag themselves if they didn't have so much community backlash and it wouldn't hurt their ratings so much. Trust me, they would fly it on their own. That I'm confident of. Because they're Marxist. But what I found interesting was it took me no longer than probably five minutes to find out this coach's name, which I'm going to share with you. Sammy Jabai. Shocker, right? J-A-B-A-I. Which, if you don't know your names, is most likely an Arab name. And I found his picture. He definitely looks like an Arab. Now, am I saying all Arabs are bad and anti-Jewish? No, I'm not saying that. But it was in this case. And my point of this story is, why didn't Nine News share his name? Why didn't other news outlets across the front range share his name? I can tell you why. Because they're protecting him. Because they believe in it like he does. Otherwise, they would have shared his name. So I'm sharing it. I have no qualms about it. I looked it up. I found his name. And by the way, I did a little bit of further looking. And not surprisingly, all of his social media has been taken down. Hmm. Go figure. Now, he's been suspended by this particular school that he was the head basketball coach of. And rightfully so. In fact, the guy should be canned. It'll be interesting to see if he is. And trust me, I'll look. I'll keep watching the website to see if he ends up getting canned or if he keeps his position. And I can understand why he would take all of his social media down, because I can only imagine the backlash that he would hear, which he deserves, by the way. He shouldn't get a pass. That's why I'm not giving him one. I'm giving you his name. Now, not that I'm going to ever say, you know, go after this guy. I'm not going to incite violence or do anything along those lines. But I think it's important for you to know his name. Unlike 9 News, who wants to protect him, I guess. I'm not out to protect the guy. He deserves whatever judgment comes his way. He's a Jew-hater. Which I am not. I am the opposite of. And my feeling is if you're a Jew hater, you need to be exposed. So, Sammy, Jabai, I'm exposing you. He, by the way, went to the University of Colorado Denver not that long ago and then became the head basketball coach. I think he actually went to this particular school from the research I could find. And then ended up being the head basketball coach, meaning he's not that old, by the way. He's definitely not my age. He's probably from looking at it late 20s, early 30s. And I couldn't see exactly how old. I tried to look up information on him. And for some of you that, you know, when you try to do a reverse lookup and so on, you might find some things, you might not find others. And all of his social media has, of course, been taken down. You can't find any of it anymore. I'm sure that happened right away. Anybody that was around him probably told him, get that down ASAP. And you might be wondering, well, how did I find his name? It wasn't hard. All I had to do was go look for the head basketball coach at that particular school and do a little bit of digging, and it came up. Wasn't that hard to find. Again, within five minutes, I found it. Nine News could have found it, even if the school didn't want to give him this particular coach's name, which I don't know why they wouldn't have, other than they're trying to protect him as well. But it didn't take me long to find it. So, first of all, Shame on you, Sammy Jabai. Shame on Nine News for not reporting his name. Not that I'm shocked at that. Shame on the Lotus School for Excellence for having a Jew hater on staff. Now, maybe they didn't know he was a Jew hater, but yeah, you know what? My gut feeling is they probably did. Because when you hate another person or nation or people group, Trust me, folks around there knew his stance on things. They're not that stupid. I'm not giving them a pass. Let me just say that. So you might want to actually send an email. This is something that we all could do. You could send an email to the Lotus School for Excellence. I'd be okay with that. And you also might want to send a nice email and apologize for the knucklehead, and you could send that to the Denver Academy of Torah. and actually tell them that, you know what, you are in good company, and we're in Denver, all of us here are not like this knucklehead, and there are a lot of us here that support you, and we are ashamed of individuals like Sammy Jabai. And by the way, Sammy, if you're listening, which I'm sure you're not, but... Anybody that might know him, you can pass this along for me. I don't care if you ever get another job around here. As far as I'm concerned, you can move far, far, far away. Leave. You're not welcome here, in my opinion. You are not welcome here. Side note, and I would never do this, but I would love to. Every time I see one of these stupid, you know, I'm in support of the Palestinians or you see the Palestinian flag or, you know, free Gaza, blah, blah, blah. I wish I had a huge flat steel bumper on the front of my car and you could just ram those guys from the rear end. That's how I feel. Now, I don't do that and I wouldn't do that. I would never advise doing that. But that's how you feel when you see these bozos. And yes, they're bozos. And at times I even have to wonder, do you really know what you're really even sticking on your car? Do you know what you're even doing? Or are you just following some movement that you've felt caught up in? Because if you really knew what you were actually supporting, you probably wouldn't. You're just that ignorant, and you're caught up in a moment, and you haven't taken a step back to really look at what's going on. In that case, I'll give some of these people a pass, because if you had an opportunity to really sit down and have a one-on-one conversation, you might change their mind. Now, I will also say, there are enough Jew haters out there where they know exactly what they're doing, they know exactly what they're saying, they've done it intentionally, and they're the other group that can move. Bye. See ya. Here's your one-way ticket out of Colorado. Go somewhere else. Go infect some other state, not this one. I can't stand those people, by the way. They just absolutely just make my blood boil. And I'm sure some of you listening feel the same way that I do. I know you can't do anything about it. It is what it is. You just sort of, you know, when I drive by and look at them, I just think, well, there's a knucklehead. There's a bozo. And you know what? That old saying, what goes around comes around. Yeah, they'll get there someday. Not from me, but some way, somehow, it'll come to them, just like it has to Sammy Jabai. And I hope that Sammy Jabai gets fired. And frankly, as I said a moment ago, I hope he never works here in this Denver, Colorado area again. He can leave for all I care. And I know Sammy's not listening, but maybe one of his friends is, and you can pass that along for me. Because here's the thing. Was this just a mistake? Was this something that he didn't think all the way through when he hung the flag up? No, folks. This was premeditated. This was an away game. He had to take his flag with him and then hang it up. This was all thought out on the front side. This wasn't something that he just did on a whim. Trust me when I say that. So, yeah, Sammy, which Nine News won't mention his name, I am. Sammy, you can leave. You can go to another state. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, you can go live in Gaza. How's that sound? In fact, I'll go as far as to say this, because I can back this up. Sammy, if you'd like a one-way ticket there, I'll buy it for you. I'll send you there. More than happy to. So any of Sammy's friends, if you're listening, if you want to tell Sammy that, and if he'd like to go live over there, I'll send him. One-way ticket. Pack your bags, Sammy. You can head that way, and I'll help you out. Be more than happy to. I have no use for people like Sammy, by the way, as you can all tell. So this is a story, again, I wanted to share with you guys earlier in the week. With everything else going on this week, I didn't get a chance to. Some of you may have seen this. It really didn't make, quote-unquote, main news, of course. Because Nine News is who they are. And other news stations, by the way, they weren't the only ones that did this. Others did as well. In fact, I didn't see a single printed article on this story that had Sammy's name in it. Ironically. Imagine that. And again, was I shocked? No, I wasn't shocked. So at any rate, there you are. You now know his name. And those of you listening, if you have any affiliation or the ability to pass that information that I said along to Sammy, be my guest. High five plumbing and electricals coming up next. And they want to help you with not only your plumbing needs, but your electrical needs as well. And water quality, that's a big deal as well, and I haven't talked about that enough. They can help you with your water quality as well. They'll give you a free test and then tell you, hey, what do we need to do to get your water quality up to where it needs to be? Ask them about that when you call 877-WE-HIGH-5.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Should have said this earlier. We have no guests. If you want to call in and there's anything on your mind, you want to add to our last story about Sammy, feel free to do so. Sorry, text line 307-200-8222. Our line here in studio, 303-477-5600. I did get a nice text message from somebody a moment ago that said, yep, you are one of the few people, if not the only people, only person, that I have heard actually give out the name of the individual that did that. And they thanked me for doing so. Thank you, by the way. A, thank you for listening. B, thank you for the support, and I appreciate that. And unfortunately, there's far too many cowards out there that won't mention his name. I'm not sure why. It doesn't bother me any. I am not one bit afraid of anybody on that side of the aisle, including all of these Palestinian nutjobs, because that's what they are. Jew-hating nutjobs. Not afraid of them at all. Bring it on. Bring it on. You're a bunch of knuckleheads. And I'll say it straight up. Nine News won't. Fox won't. CBS won't. NBC won't. I said Fox locally. Fox nationally might. I will. Don't bother me a bit. Total knuckleheads. Speaking of knuckleheads, I haven't talked about this one much this week either. This one has been in the news some. Charlie's probably followed this one a little bit. Mike Johnston, our mayor of Denver. He's being investigated by Congress for our Denver sanctuary city status. It's by the U.S. House Oversight Committee. Now, they have subpoenaed him, and I think he's supposed to be, Charlie, going out next week, I believe. I think it's the first week of February they're asking him to come out. And he's basically telling the news and folks around him that, yeah, I'm not sure I'm going to do that or not. Okay, Mike, more power to you. Yeah, literally. He's sort of, in a way, scoffing at this, kind of laughing at it, and still basically sticking to his guns of, you know, we're here to protect people. Paraphrasing, but, you know, we're here to protect people, and, you know, I may not have time to go out there. Now, what I will say is, Mike, I would pay a little more attention to this if I were you. This current administration, they are not big on sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, Governor Polis. They don't look too highly on that. In fact, here locally, there's been some agencies that the feds have basically said, you're done. If you're a legal for gratis agency that's helping immigrants, whoever they might be, you're done. We're not doing that anymore. We are not helping you. We are not funding you and helping you help them. We're not doing that anymore. We're done. You're done. And in turn, there's no funding for that. There's no money. So they are done. And it is a fact, well-known fact, Denver is, in fact, a sanctuary city. Governor Polis has made Colorado literally a sanctuary state. I talked about that on Monday because Governor Polis came out and basically said, oh, no, no, we're not. We're not that. Yeah, Governor, we are. You're another knucklehead. Yes, we are. And I proved that on Monday. I went through the timeline Monday to prove that. Governor Hickenlooper started it. Governor Polish, Polish, Polish, Polish finished it, literally. So there's a 2019 law, by the way, that makes Denver, in fact, a sanctuary city. The law is called Protect Colorado Residents from Federal Government Overreach. And by the way, Mike needs to answer to these things because he's now the mayor, even though that happened prior to him. He is the mayor. He could change those things if he wanted to. And remember, folks, I'm not even mentioning, which I have in the past, but I'm not even mentioning right now the amount of money, the millions upon millions upon millions of dollars that the city of Denver has used to help and fund and house these illegal immigrants. I haven't talked about that one for a while, but it's a huge amount of money, enough that Denver has had to pull back on other services and do other things to be able to get their budget balanced, to be able to handle that money that has gone out to help these particular individuals. And, yeah, Mike Johnston needs to be accountable for that. Mike Johnston actually just next time around needs to have a nice run from someone else and be gone. Keep in mind, and I don't think I'm wrong in this, although it's probably not going to work out this way because of this, but his initial aspirations, I think, Charlie, was to replace Governor Polis. Am I pretty correct in saying that? Yeah, Charlie says he wouldn't be surprised. I think, and I've heard that from some inside folk, that it's kind of a natural progression in Colorado and a lot of states where you become mayor of the biggest city of the capital, and before long, you've got bigger aspirations politically, and you can do representative or a Senate seat or governor. And I would guess that Mike has bigger aspirations than just being city of Denver's mayor. Now, what I will say, and I think this is even hurting Governor Polis as well for his future aspirations. Mike, if you don't get this immigration thing cleaned up and handled and quit denying the fact that it is a problem because it is, you don't have much of a political future. You're going to be shot down from this point forward. Governor Polis, my advice to you is, A, call off your dogs when it comes to some of the gun laws they're trying to enact, which, by the way, are totally unconstitutional and won't pass muster. They'll be shot down as well. We'll spend a bunch of money as a state trying to defend those things. You're already worried about the budget and trying to figure out how to change things around and either raise taxes or cut programs or do whatever to balance the budget. My advice to you, Governor Polis, is call off your dogs. Stop running bills that are totally unconstitutional. Save the state some money and get your party back in line. Get your radical activist politicians that are at Capitol Hill here in Denver at the Golden Dome. Call your dogs off. and get things handled, and you might actually have a chance of a future political career. But if you keep going down the path that you're on, especially when it comes to immigration and the fact that Colorado is a sanctuary state, you're not going to have one. So that's my advice to Governor Polis. Again, I know he doesn't listen, but these, believe me, the things that I say, because I was watching something earlier where there was a video of a particular conversation that some folks were having, and I can give details, but I could tell from that conversation that they listened to my program. Because the things that they were discussing in rebuttal to some things that I have said. Now, I get it. Some other talk show hosts could be saying similar things. But, yeah, there's just certain things that I say and I say it in a certain way that, you know, when these rebuttals come, they're listening to me. And fine. I'm glad you are. Thank you, by the way. Appreciate it. We're going to disagree, but you can still listen. That's fine. So my point with Governor Polis and even Mike Johnston is, you know, they may not have or they don't listen directly. That I can guarantee you. But others around them do. And they're monitoring things that are being said. So, yeah, this will still get back to them some way, somehow. So. I would advise both of you to change your stance on some of these things or your political career is numbered. And that means you as well, Governor Polis, because if you don't change some things and by the way, you can't just backtrack and say Colorado is not a sanctuary state. Knowing your track record and the things that you have done, you can't be a hypocrite and not have that come back on you. It will come back on you, and it already is. All right, we'll come back. Flesh Laws coming up next. Speaking of legal end of things, if you've got any kind of an issue, civilly speaking, criminally speaking, you've had a traffic accident, you need some representation on either end of that. Either the other party's not paying, or maybe you need some representation on your side. Give Kevin a call today, 303-806-8886.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back, and I appreciate you all listening. Thanks again for all the text messages. One message came in a moment ago that said, wish we had a way to get what we do here daily on Rush to Reason out in front of more young people. And I'm all in. I'm not sure exactly how we do that. And to a lot of young people's credit, there are a lot that actually do listen, more than probably some of you think, which thank you for listening as well. A lot of you that are young that are listening, I do appreciate that greatly. Thank you. And nothing against you older folks, but it means a lot to me when young people listen. Because that's our future. Not that you guys that are older can't do some things and shouldn't be informed and shouldn't know how to stand up and do things and so on. Not saying that we need everybody, but especially young people when we get them to listen. And we have a little bit of an end, by the way, for what I do on the weekends, because once they start driving, drive radio becomes and can be a very integral part of what they have going on, because I can teach them a lot on that program about how to save money, how to drive, you know, all those different things. And we have a little bit of an in with young people because of that, because the motoring community is just that, a community. Doesn't matter what age. I've said this before, but just quickly. It's one of the best things about the car world, and I've said this many times, and I appreciate it. It doesn't matter who you are. In the car world, you can be black, white, Latino, Asian, young, old. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You're part of a community. And we all get along as a community, and nobody cares who you are, skin color-wise and all of that, I mean. You can be highly educated. You cannot. You can still be in high school. I mean, literally, the car community runs the gamut. And I mean that sincerely. It really does. It's why, to me, it's such a great tool and a great thing that really can be used to bring young people along. And cars are great. I'm glad we now have a president that feels that way, by the way, because our last one didn't. Our last president, he just soon shut the car community down and was trying to in a lot of ways. This president will do just the opposite. He will add value to the car community and recognize that it is, in fact, a community and transportation is freedom and we need it. And it doesn't matter which one you like, whether it's gas, diesel, EV, hydrogen, whatever. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, pick your poison. He doesn't care. He just wants us all to have that freedom to travel. So, you know, talking about the young people aspect, we do have that in with our Saturday program, Drive Radio, because it does give us the ability to talk to everyone. Because I don't do much in the way of politics on Saturday. Hardly any. Might add a little blurb here or there just because politics does affect what we drive and how that works and the price of fuel and so on. But I don't normally get into that. We just help people with their problems. Try to teach them how to save money on car repair and how often should you change oil and how can you keep your car running longer and so on and so forth. So, yeah, put a little plug in here for Drive Radio on Saturdays. But it is an end to the young crowd because a lot of young people are into cars. So for those of you that would like to figure out how do we get more young people to listen, you know what? Get them started just on Saturdays, 10 to 1. Honestly, 10 to 1. And most likely they'll enjoy what they hear there. And like a lot of you, we'll follow over here to during the week. As well, which is exactly what happened with Rush to Reason. A lot of folks were listening on the weekends because that's where I was initially. And because of that, started listening during the week. And there's been some back and forth. There's been some daily listeners that also have gone over to Saturdays. But, you know, again, for those young people, remind them that we're here on Saturdays and we don't talk politics. It's all car stuff. And they're welcome to call in and chime in. And we have young people that do. Soren up north does all the time. And I appreciate that greatly. And I love young people. And I guess because I still myself don't feel like I'm old, and I guess I still feel young, at least at heart. And I like communicating with young people on a regular basis. I have a lot of fun with young people. And I want to teach them not only how to do well when it comes to their car and that end of things, but just in life in general. Because the more we pour into them, the better our world gets. So, yeah, I'm all about helping young people any way, shape, or form that I can. So if you guys have other ideas on how we do that and how we reach more young people, I am all ears. Because I have a passion to help young people achieve the goals that they want and help them get there. Because, honestly, there's not a lot of adults that do that. In fact, the whole school system and the majority of that is designed to hold them back and not let them achieve what they want to do. It's actually quite the opposite. So I want to help them get to where they want to go and achieve their dreams, unlike their school system they're most likely in right now. All right. I know I'm running out of time here, but there's an article on The Hill, which, again, The Hill is not conservative. Some of you might think it is, but it is not. Article says, Trump's initial second-term approval rating among the lowest in decades. And so I read through this article, and it's a Gallup poll. And I'm not normally one to poo-poo polls because most of them are fairly accurate. There's no way this one is. No way. The amount of people that I see and talk to and hear from and so on, even some of those that aren't necessarily Trump fans— but they're definitely fans of what he's doing right now policy-wise and what he's doing with immigration and budget and so on. People are sick and tired of federal workers not working, government workers not working. They're tired of having to support people that come here as freeloaders. They're tired of that. And so they like the things that are going on right now in the country. So I don't call BS on too many polls, but I do on this one. I do on this one. I don't think Trump's rating is at 47%. It's higher than that. Sorry. This poll has to be wrong. Again, I talk to far too many people just out in public and other places and so on that enjoy what's going on right now. May not be his biggest fan. but they are of what he's doing. And you're going to see more of that as you start seeing more and more traction on the things that he's doing and implementing right now, what he's done not just in the past week plus, but what he'll keep doing. You're going to see more people jump on that bandwagon. So I'm sorry, Gallup and the Hill. This is a bogus poll. I don't believe it. I don't say that very often when it comes to polling, but in this particular case, I will, because I just don't see that being the case, given all the different people that, again, I run into, talk to, and so on. All right, Golden Eagle Financial, Al Smith. Speaking of future, getting to where you want to go, staying there, achieving your dreams. In a lot of cases, that involves finances, and in a lot of cases, people haven't gotten that dialed in. 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All right, we are back. Got 30 seconds left. So tomorrow on our program, Andy's got two movies to review. In fact, he's watching them probably as we speak. Companion and Dogman. And then because of Dogman, we haven't done this for a while. Tomorrow we're going to do Movie Rental. So Movie Rental hour tomorrow will be movies with dogs. Figure out what your favorite one of those is. You can start sending those in on the text line, 307-200-8222. I'll add those into our list tomorrow. And Fridays are, by the way, always a lot of fun, very little politics. We have fun with movies and things like that. So, guys, have a great night. Be safe. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In this vibrant discussion, host John Rush analyzes the role of international health bodies like the WHO and their influence on global health directives. He also focuses on personal well-being in consumer culture, unraveling the intricacies of the 'No Buy 25' movement and offering pragmatic advice about spending in an age of economic uncertainty. Tune in for sharp insights and valuable tips to help you navigate your path toward a healthier lifestyle and more informed spending habits.
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I have what doctors call a little bit of a weight problem. I used to grab bear claws as a kid, two at a time, and I'd get them lodged right in this region here.
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right, welcome Health and Wellness Wednesday, this first hour on Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, thank you for joining us. I've got Troy Duell that will be joining us at 3.30. We're going to talk about how to avoid some of the cold and flu season that is definitely rolling around right now. I know several folk that have that as we speak, so we'll talk about that later. at the bottom of the hour. Yesterday's impossible question, what is the name of the theoretical particle that carries the force of gravity in quantum physics? That answer is graviton. And then today's impossible question, who wrote the 14th century allegorical poem Piers Plowman? That's the foggiest idea. Most of you probably could have already figured this out. personally am not never have been a big poem guy just not not my forte um you know when you're younger and in school you have to do some of those things and i did but couldn't wait till you know those things were done and over with because and i know some folks some folks just have a collection of and read and it's it's a very you know endearing thing to a lot of individuals I am not one of those, which I'm sure a lot of you are shocked that I'm not. I'm laughing, of course, because I'm joking, of course, because no, none of you are shocked that I'm not into poems. All right. Several things. And one thing that I want to. Talk about as we open up here. First things first. I was going to talk about this yesterday. I didn't get a chance to. And it does have to do with health and wellness. It is news and, you know, President Trump related. But the CDC has been ordered, ordered through an executive order to stop working with communicating with the WHO, World Health Organization, which I don't talk much about during this hour. You know, this health and wellness Wednesday hour. We've talked a lot about. about the World Health Organization and the CDC in the Thursday first hour where we have Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House on on a routine basis. They'll be with us tomorrow and probably talk about this a little bit then as well. But frankly, and I know there's people out there that would argue with me on this, especially folks that are on the hard left. The WHO, the World Health Organization, yeah, I'm not a fan at all. Do they really do anything to help mankind around the world? Highly doubtful. It is, in my opinion, nothing more than a huge money laundering operation for the folks that are involved and also an operation whereby those that are rich and want to have control over the masses can use it in a way to make that happen. And if you don't believe me, just look at what happened through COVID. In fact, I will come right out and say it. Not all of their findings and or recommendations are this way, but a large majority of them are flat out wrong. They're incorrect. They're very politically motivated and based, and I'm fine with that. Frankly, we don't need them. They need us. And without us, these are the types of organizations where if it's not for us and our funding, they don't exist. And my feeling on that is, is if the rich and powerful, the Bill Gates of the world and so on, if they want to see the WHO continue on, fund it yourself. Fund it yourself. And we do not need to be dinking around with it. I'm also one, personally, and we've talked about this on Thursdays as well. We don't need all of the different health organizations that we have in this country. And a lot of them could be run under one roof. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. We don't need all of them separated and all of the costs that are associated with it. And as a side note, and I know this is Health and Wellness Wednesday, but I still want to add this in because it does affect lots of things. Trump, the administration, put out a freeze yesterday, since been rescinded, but put out a freeze yesterday on a lot of government funding of all sorts of different things, local, nationwide, you name it. And there was a lot of confusion over that end of things. And personally, I think that was a move on his part where he knew exactly what was going to happen. He knew that it would do what it did. And he knew that he would rescind it most likely the day or two after. I think that was meant to be a shot across the bow, if you would, a wake-up call to a lot of things that are funded that frankly shouldn't be funded federally. And in my opinion, that was a wake-up call to a lot of organizations that receive federal funding that basically say, you're on notice. You're on notice. Your funding that you're now getting may not be in the future. You may be getting cut off. So you know what? Here's a wake-up call. Here's a wake up call. So you need to determine moving forward how you're going to fund yourself because we're liable to not be doing it any longer. And I know this is Health and Wellness Wednesday. But keep in mind, some of those federal dollars go into supposed and what I would call quasi health type things that at the end of the day aren't. But that money still gets, you know, still is flowing that way and it's still funded in that way. So I think that was a big thing that came out that Donald Trump did. I think that was more, again, of a shot across the bow, a wake up call to those particular entities. And basically to say your funding may not be here for good. All right. I will start with this. I'll go to break, come back and talk a little bit more. But RFK Jr., He is going through confirmation hearings as we speak. I've not watched any of these. I've only just got some little snippets and excerpts, I should say, of them. Keep in mind, he's a Democrat. Let's not forget that. He is a Democrat. And do I agree with RFK Jr. on all things? No, I do not. He is still a Democrat. What's ironic, though, is it's his side attacking him the most. Not surprised at that, of course, but his side attacking him the most. And at some point, you have to wonder, RFK Jr., you know, Bobby, when are you just going to change the D to an R and come over to our side because the loons on your side are literally that, loons? He went through some conversation today, even with our own Senator Michael Bennett, who, by the way, is nothing more than a wet noodle in most cases. You saw him even try to run for president at one time, yes, as a senator of Colorado. And unfortunately, because of the disaster that our own party is here in Colorado, we couldn't figure out a way to beat him. It has to be one of the most spineless, easily beatable senators in the country. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. But he had the gall to actually grill RFK Jr. on all sorts of things, things that he has said, you know, supposedly has said on podcasts and other things along those lines and really came after. rfk jr in a very what and again i i know it's a confirmation hearing and the left is very petty in the things that they do and michael bennett by the way and and no i'm not proud to call him a senator from colorado because the guy is a total doofus in my opinion yes i just said that he is a total doofus he is one of those politicians i talked about yesterday that's not real bright He fits that description of what I was mentioning yesterday and yesterday's program to a tee. Not a real bright guy. Yeah, I know he got elected. I know he's a senator, but not a bright guy. Trust me when I say that. And again, today in this particular hearing, there was lots of protesters and, you know, they're coming down hard on RFK Jr. with his stance on certain. And he was very clear in this today with his response, certain vaccines and things along those lines. And again, we talk about those in depth on Thursdays between three and four o'clock with Dr. Kelly Victory. But Michael Bennett, you know, he had to get his his name in the book, if you would. And came after RFK Jr. on certain things. And it, again, what a moron. He accused RFK Jr. of peddling half-truths, peddling false statements, of course, none of which is true. And he's, again, Michael Bennett's just one of those loony lefties. that in this particular case had to make himself known, had to get his name out there in the quote-unquote papers. I know we don't do papers anymore, but you know what I'm saying there. And at the end of the day, where is this going to go? By the way, I mean... I will say of all of the confirmation hearings, I thought Pete would be the hardest. But I think RFK Jr., because his own party despises him so much, I think this one's actually going to be a little bit harder than actually Pete. Now, one real quick thing as well, because a lot of people ask the question, something we've never discussed, I don't think, even with Dr. Kelly Victory, when it comes to RFK Jr., His voice. And a lot of people wonder what's wrong with his voice. Does he just need to clear his throat? You know, what's going on there? It's actually a neurological condition that he has that he got when he was about 46 years of age. In fact, when it came on, it was pretty sudden. Before that, he had a very loud, booming voice. He talks about that publicly and the fact that all of a sudden it changed and he wasn't sure why. And people that would hear him talk actually would communicate to him and say, you have this particular syndrome. So he finally went, got diagnosed, and in fact, the people that were communicating with him, emailing and so on, were correct. He did, in fact, have that particular syndrome, this neurological problem, and it's something that he cannot control. In fact, he has even said, which I'll give the guy credit for this. He has even said, I feel sorry for the people that have to listen to me talk. I hate my voice that much that literally I feel sorry for people that have to hear me talk, but it is what it is, and I cannot change it. And I will say this, I have renewed respect for him, not that I didn't have any before, because I've got a lot of respect for the man, but I have more respect even now after hearing him say those things and realize that, yeah, I know people probably get annoyed at my voice, and I feel sorry for them having to listen to me, but it's my voice, and it's what I am, and I can't change it, and you'll just have to bear with me when you hear me speak. And that's the explanation of why RFK Jr. talks the way that he does. So... High Five is up next, High Five Plumbing and Electrical. 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All right, here's a story that I thought would fit well into health and wellness on this Wednesday because you read the story and there's different aspects of it, and I'll explain. Americans, there's a movement going around social media as we speak. Americans pledging to buy less or even nothing in 2025 outside of their very bare necessities. So as I read through this story, I'm like, okay, I guess I could see some parts of this and understand why people are doing what they're doing. And for example, they gave some different individuals where they have vowed to use up all of their cosmetics before buying anything else. Or they're going to use up all of their hair care products before they add to the collection or buy anything else. And I could see where if you've got a plethora of those items, sure, why add to your quote-unquote inventory until you deplete what you already have? And I get that. I understand that. On the same token, I think, and this has been, by the way, this is being coined no buy 25. No buy 25. Now, I'm also one where, well, and Charlie knows this, I have Foro, fear of running out. And yes, I do. Ask my wife. And it drives her crazy sometimes because I'm one of those where it's like, okay, you know, we only have one of these left. And she'll be like, yeah, but it's full. I'm like, yeah, but that, yeah, we need another one because that one's almost out. And it does drive her crazy. And yes, I'm very weird. And I understand that. And yes, that's, it is, by the way, that is a very genuine fear of mine. I hate running out of things, especially stuff you use on a regular basis. So while a lot of these people in this trend, I think, is great for some, whereby they may be able to buy less, buy things that they, you know, stop buying things that they don't necessarily need. And at the end of the day, help pay off maybe some credit card debt or other things that they have, you know, other debt they've had to acquire over the past several years under the Biden administration, by the way, because that's what's really happened. So I understand that end of it, although I think people, and this is my advice, I think you also have to be really careful that if it's something that you're using on a very routine basis and all of a sudden you are out and it's needed and you're now scrambling to buy said item, product, whatever it is, in that case you may actually be paying more money for that particular product because you're buying it now kind of on an emergency basis. It's sort of like if you're on vacation and you forget something and you've got to run down to the local whatever to replace that item that you forgot or that maybe didn't show up in your luggage because your luggage might be lost. I mean, you get where I'm going with that. It never fails when you're in those predicaments, you spend more and may not even get the product that you want at the end of the day. So while I think it's very admirable to slow down on spending and try to pay off debt and other things, and I'm not opposed to that, I think you also have to be very calculated in what you're doing along those lines because there may be some items – where if you buy it in bulk or you buy at the right time, you may actually find yourself saving money doing it that way and still, at the end of the day, being able to pay debt and other things. And I get it. You can't go to Sam's or Costco and go overboard on the things that you're buying and expect to save at the end of the day. And that is a problem that happens at big box stores as you leave there with all sorts of things that you didn't intend on buying when you first got there. That's By the way, they're a model. That's how they make money. But I'm one where if it's an item that I'm using, for example, shaving cream, I'm one where when I get down to one can left, I buy a six-pack. And that six-pack, because I have a beard and I only shave certain parts of my face, I don't use as much as somebody else would probably use shaving cream-wise. So I can make it last longer than what it normally would last probably somebody else. So I can buy a six-pack and literally have that last a year. Now, I'm also not just going to go buy one can at a time because I can buy a six-pack cheaper per can than if I just went and bought one can. So I'm a little bit opposite of what this no-buy 25 is because I'm not going to change my habits and either A, run out of something or lose out on some of the deals that may be there from buying more than one if it's a particular item you know you're going to use over and over and over again. And some of us get into, and maybe it's wrong, and I've never talked about this on health and wellness, but when it comes to certain even grooming items, I think you get into your norm, you know what works for you. And whether you're a male or female, you buy that same thing over and over and over again because you know it works. It could be anything from shampoo to the certain soap that you like to whatever. It could be razors even. What kind of razor do you use? And some people have different skin types, and certain things work and certain things don't, and on and on we go. And so, again, I'm one where, A, make sure it is something that you need and you're using. Don't overbuy. But I would also say buy what you know you're going to use. And if you can find it at the right times and catch the sales and buy in bulk, then why would you? But that goes against this, you know, no buy 25. Now, that's on sort of the personal health care, you know, cosmetics and things along those lines. This goes on to talk about how some people are just not buying as many household items. They're not going to decorate the way they once would. They're going to cut back on certain things along those lines. And by the way, fine. Knock your socks off. Fully understand that part of it. If you can save money in those ways, then by all means, do so. I go back to some of your day-to-day things, though, and if you can save money by buying ahead or buying in bulk, then no offense, why wouldn't you? Now, they gave an example. There was a 35-year-old Alicia. She works in the beauty industry in New York. She's got a credit card and loan balance of almost $50,000 from feeling pressure to dress a certain way for work. So she has decided to focus on lowering her debt and not worrying so much about the type of clothes she's wearing and designer this and designer that. Yeah, that one, by the way, first of all, I can't imagine having that much debt from that particular end of things. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. And Charlie had said through the break, and I thought of the same thing, that maybe this No Buy 25 is just a move to hurt Donald Trump and their thought of, you know, let's hurt the economy or let's not help him any more than we have to by doing this. What they don't understand is at the end of the day, even those moves will still help at the end of the day. So, you know, more power to them as far as that goes. Troy Duell joining us now. Troy, welcome back. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 17 :
Good, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
How you been? Very good. Always a joy to talk to you. And for those of you listening, you know, Troy is a health educator, founder of Centurion Labs as well. And we have him on on a periodic basis, a really pretty routine basis anymore, Troy. So let's talk about the cold flu season. It's definitely upon us. I know folks right now that are suffering from that very thing. And what we all need to try to do, of course, is, you know, try to fend that off and guard as much as possible. How do we do that?
SPEAKER 17 :
It definitely is the season. And the number one thing is to do what we were always told growing up. Start washing your hands. Make sure that you're not touching your face, especially if you're out in public. So wash your hands. Keep your hands away from your face until you can wash them if you're out in public. And just be very, very aware of other people around you. So if you're sick or you're coughing, be sure to cover your cough. Be careful. considerate of those others who are out there. If you have a fever, stay home so you're not spreading these things. But the number one thing to do and what every study suggests is just good old-fashioned hygiene is the best way to really keep these germs at bay.
SPEAKER 15 :
You make it sound really simple, and yet, in a lot of ways, it is. And I also have read this of late, Troy, to go along with what you're talking about. A lot of folks, I'm not one of them because I don't like the way it makes my hands feel, but a lot of folks are big on hand sanitizers and things like that. And what I've read of late is... There are certain things, for example, the latest virus that's running around, norovirus that's running around, making people really, really sick as far as sick to their stomach and so on. Hand sanitizer doesn't fight that off at all. So your point of washing your hands becomes even more important.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And norovirus is one of those that you have to be very, very aware of because people, It's something that can stay on countertops. It can actually be transmitted from food. So if you go to a restaurant and somebody is cooking and they have it and they have it on their hands, it can be transmitted from plates, from glasses, from everything. So it is the most highly contagious of all the viral infections going around right now. But thankfully, it's also probably the least dangerous of the viral infections that we can get.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's just miserable having it. I've known some folks of late that have gotten it, Troy. I have, knock on wood, been very fortunate and haven't. But the reality is it's just a miserable thing to go through.
SPEAKER 17 :
It absolutely is. And if you find yourself coming down with norovirus, probably the number one thing you need to do is make sure you're getting plenty of fluids. Because I've actually had a friend who ended up in the hospital because he was throwing up so much that he got dehydrated. actually got to the point where he had a seizure. So be sure you're getting plenty, plenty of fluids so you don't have it turn into something much worse than it already is.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. Okay, talk to us about some of the things we can do to boost our immunity. And I know, I get it. Troy, a lot of what we've talked about even in the past still comes down to your overall health. You still have to be eating well. There's no magic pill you can take that will just automatically keep your immune system up. It's a combination of things. Although, and this is where you guys come in at Centurion Labs, I also know that because of where we're at with our food supply and a lot of things that are out there, we're not getting the nutrition that we once did. So in a lot of cases, we do need a supplement.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And a supplement is just that. It's to supplement, like you said, your health. So obviously the biggest thing we can do is be in the best health possible. So anytime we get a viral infection, our body can handle it the best way possible. Now, that said, there are certain supplements that we recommend you taking in order to get your health to its optimal level and really help support the immune health. So We know that vitamin D levels, something we heard all through COVID and the pandemic, were super important, especially when it came to respiratory infections that came from viruses. So you need to be taking about 2,000 to 4,000 IUs a day, which is roughly about 50 to 100 micrograms a day. The other one that's really big, there are two others that I'll really touch on. We all hear about vitamin C, but zinc is one that you have to be really really mindful of get enough zinc in your diet and it will help fight off those viral infections along with quercetin so quercetin is one that works in tandem with both zinc and vitamin c it comes out of fruits and vegetables uh apples in particular so that old saying an apple a day keeps the doctor away probably had something to do with quercetin so uh that being said make sure you're getting those in your supplement regimen, especially this time of year, and your body will thank you for it because it'll be tuned up and really operating at the most immune efficient ability that it can.
SPEAKER 15 :
And you just said regiment a moment ago, meaning this is one of those things where we really need to get into a habit of doing X, Y, Z, whether it be, you know, you do that on a daily basis, which I think, Troy, you need to. I mean, I don't know that you can really I mean, yeah, I get it. Sometimes you may be in a situation where you skip, but I think it needs to be something where you're very regimented. You just know this is what I'm going to do on a daily basis and figure out what that best time of the day is for you to do so.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And if you're talking about exercising, eating right, but then adding the supplements in, the one thing a lot of people do is they're like, well, it's not really flu seasons. I'm not going to take the supplements now. The problem is we don't know when we're going to come into contact with that viral infection or bacterial infection. So it's always good just to keep your immune system as tuned up as possible. During the flu season, I always say make sure you're taking the max. Maybe when it's not flu season, you can cut it back to one or less a day in order to make sure that you're keeping those nutrients in your body.
SPEAKER 15 :
Same token, Troy. All of us, myself included, have always had that dreadful summer cold. So, you know, that stuff happens all year long.
SPEAKER 17 :
It does. Viruses do not go away, neither do bacteria. So there is less and less of it, mostly because we're outside. The sun kills a lot of infections. So... We have that opportunity during the summer, but it's still out there and you can still get sick.
SPEAKER 15 :
How important is, you know, what we're, you know, again, this time of the year, a little colder, typically you don't, you know, drink as much. And or if you're drinking, in a lot of cases, people are drinking something other than, you know, water there, you know, maybe tea, maybe coffee, maybe some other type of beverages, adult beverages and so on in the water consumption. I'm guessing, Troy, and I'm not I'm not you. I don't study this stuff, but I'm guessing this time of the year, unless you're purposeful, your water consumption probably drops, doesn't it?
SPEAKER 17 :
It certainly can because a lot of us are looking for something hot. And most of the time when we're looking for something hot, it's going to be coffee or tea, which have caffeine, and that can dehydrate us. But the beauty is coffee and tea both are mostly water. So keeping that in mind, you are getting some hydration with it, albeit you're getting some caffeine. But one way that you can battle against that is if you have tea and you're wanting something hot, just keep reusing that tea bag five, six times and eventually you're getting more water than you are caffeine. There are also a lot of caffeine-free alternatives that you can have when it comes to tea or even coffee and you're still getting fluids at that point that's going to help.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I know this is something that, again, has to become a habit, and you'll see a lot of people carry, I do, you carry around a thermos-type container that has, in my case, water, and you won't put ice in it or do whatever you want to do, fine. But for me, Troy, I just make myself do that because that makes me, or I guess I should say forces me to have the amount of liquid each day I should have.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely, because none of us, I guess we could drown and that would be too much water. But for the most part, very few of us could drink more water than we really need at this point because we're not in the habit of doing it. And water is so beneficial to us, whether that's our immune health, whether that's joint health, anything, water is going to help because it helps flush all those toxins out of our bodies.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know we've talked in the past as well, and I've interviewed other experts on this, where a lion's share of our population is A, low on vitamin D, and then also dehydrated.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. And this time of year especially, because we're in the winter months, there's really nowhere in the northern hemisphere in the U.S. where we could get enough sun during the winter and still maintain our vitamin D levels. Maybe Hawaii, maybe parts of Florida. But for the most part, during the winter, you've got to be getting 15 minutes of sun a day in short sleeves and shorts in order to get the amount of vitamin D that our bodies need to keep our immune system as healthy as possible. So there's really no way for the majority of us in the U.S. to get that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great point. Food-wise, different things even get eaten at different times of the year because depending upon the time of the year, Troy, some things become more expensive. They become less expensive. In turn, you may eat certain things at different times of the year, the different seasons that we have, especially here in Colorado, the different seasons. We have all four here. What types of food should we make sure that we're consistent in getting in no matter what?
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, it's always what mom said is very, very true. We should always be getting our fruits and vegetables. Stay away from the processed foods because the more processed foods we have, the bigger issue you're going to have. Our body just doesn't do well with those processed foods. So anytime you can snack on fruits or vegetables, stay away from the sugar. And those are always great ways to get your body healthy. tuned up and in great condition so there are certain fruits and vegetables that may be in season or out of season and if it's in season do the normal thing of just rotating to a new vegetable or a new fruit that may be in season this time of year that you don't normally get and your body will thank you for it because it does like a little bit of diversity when it comes to that
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, let's say that, you know, either ourselves or a family member comes down with an illness, respiratory illness in this particular case. You know, what's their best remedy? And I get that that's hard to do just a flat-out, you know, blanket statement. And if somebody's really ill, yes, we need to be going to the doctor and finding out exactly, you know, much like your friend you were talking about. I mean, yeah, if we need that kind of care, we need to get that. I do think, Troy, that part of the problem we have with our health care system in this country is far too many people run right down to the urgent care or the ER or the doctor's office without trying to do some things on their own. And our bodies are wonderfully made and there's the ability for us to fight some of these things off naturally. So I guess the question is, when do we call it quits on our own remedies and or what should some of those be versus actually going to urgent care or the doctor?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think the number one thing is we've got to listen to our bodies. If we have a headache and we have a mild fever, there really is no need to go to the doctor because all they're going to do is treat those symptoms the same way you would treat them if you're at the house. So if you've got a cough that's keeping you up at night, then find a cough suppressant that's going to help reduce that cough and make sure that you're getting the rest you need because The number one thing I think we need to do when we're not feeling well is be sure that we're getting sleep. Beyond sleep, you need to be well hydrated. And then treat those symptoms as they come up. Now, don't treat the symptoms to the point where you're masking everything and you have no idea if you're really getting worse or not. The body, like you said, is wonderfully made, and it sends warning signs for us. So if you've got a fever that's popping up to 104, 105, and it's maintaining that, that's probably a sign you need to be going down to the urgent care and getting some things done.
SPEAKER 15 :
Makes sense. And again, for most, I think you said, Troy, and you're accurate, we know our bodies. We know ourselves. We typically know what's going on. And I also know that some of us don't like going to any of those places. So you'll do almost everything you possibly can to avoid going to a place like that. That's me, by the way. I just – I don't know. I'm sorry. And it's nothing against, you know, that industry, Troy. But all of that to me just seems like such a waste of time because everything in the medical community moves at a snail's pace. So for me, it's just like, OK, I'm doing everything possible to not go there.
SPEAKER 17 :
I feel the same way because the truth is a lot of times we go to the urgent care and we don't have something that is necessarily going around in the community. But when you go to the urgent care, there's a pretty good chance.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
if you're not washing your hands and being very, very careful, that whatever you didn't have, you have on the way out. Fact.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. All right, Centurion Labs, talk about that for a moment. What can folks find there, and how do they find it?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, so you can go to centurionlabs.com, so that's C-E-N-T-U-R-I-O-N-L-A-B-S dot com, and we've got all kinds of supplements there. We actually have some cough suppressants as well to Help people if this time of the year you're coming down with a cough. Maybe a great opportunity to go on there and find something that may help you and benefit you.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was going to say really quick, and sign up because you guys send out daily newsletters and things along those lines as well.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. We try to educate as much as we can and get the word out and just help people take a little bit more ownership of their health, especially after what we went through with COVID.
SPEAKER 15 :
And just to kind of dovetail into that, I talked about some of the RFK Jr. hearings right before, you know, you were coming on and just, you know, where is that going to go? I don't know. The reality is you're already, Troy, not to get super political here, but you're already starting to see pushback from his own party in regards to him himself, because the reality is there's a lot. I'm sorry. I don't know how to say this, Troy. There's a lot of these senators that are on the dole from Big Pharma that definitely don't want to see any kind of a disruptor come in and change things.
SPEAKER 17 :
Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct. And the pharmaceutical industry and the medical industry as a whole is no longer about preventing. It's really no longer about health, but it's about creating annuity streams. And I think we would do a much better job and be a much healthier nation if we just started working in that old adage that Benjamin Franklin said, which is, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, we would all be much better off when it comes to our health based on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. Troy, as always, it's a joy always having you. I learn something every time you're on, and I appreciate your time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks, John. Always good to be here.
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All right, and as I have said numerous times and actually interviewed somebody last week when it comes to fad diets, be careful. Not saying that they all don't work and not saying there isn't something to probably all of them. But overdone can lead to some consequences you may not want. For example, a Florida man in his mid-40s on a meat, fat, and dairy-heavy diet, i.e. the carnivore diet... arrived at a Tampa hospital with ooze emanating from yellowish nodes on the palms of his hands, elbows, and the sides of his feet. The man told doctors that he had adopted a carnivore diet eight months prior, explaining that his daily intake was made up entirely of sticks of butter, six to nine pounds of cheese, and hamburger cheese. And this guy is now kind of becoming a case study for these things. And his cholesterol was literally through the roof, you can only imagine. And, yeah, not healthy at all. Would never recommend anybody do anything along those lines whatsoever. His cholesterol, by the way, exceeded 1,000, and it's supposed to be down around – it should be under 200. If you're at 200 or above, 240-ish or so, by the way, you're considered high at that point in time. And he was at 1,000. They called this man – they diagnosed him with – xanthelasma, however you say that, a condition caused by high cholesterol levels or other fats in the blood. In cases of this particular condition, excess lipids ooze from the blood vessels and from localized lipid deposits. And all I can say is, yuck. Yuck. So, yeah. Now, I don't think any of my listeners would be dumb enough to do what this particular gentleman did and eat this much of those particular items. And I guess, like we always say, balance is everything. And no matter what you're doing, including a diet, you can definitely overdo it. So, yeah. Anyways, thank you all for listening. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Try to bring as much things to you on this Wednesday edition as we can, because I believe wholeheartedly, and I know a lot of you do as well, we need to be a much healthier country than we are right now. And hopefully RFK Jr. and Donald Trump, hopefully he'll get confirmed and we can take some measures along those lines. So we'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you.
The discussion takes a turn towards modern challenges, scrutinizing the evolving landscape of media and politics. With the introduction of new media policies in the White House, the podcast dissects the impact of this shift. A deep dive into RFK Jr.'s health care initiatives brings to light the profound health crises facing Americans today, pointing towards the need for innovation and accountability in the health sector.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. Richard Battle joining us now. Welcome, Richard. How are you today?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good afternoon, John. We're doing fantastic. Thanks for having us back.
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Not just an insurance company. That's our topic today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and some people know the John Hancock Insurance Company, and others don't. And some people know sign your John Hancock to a piece of paper, and others don't. But we all should.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. So where did that come from? Where did that saying, put your John Hancock on this, come from?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, if you look at the Declaration of Independence, the first and biggest signature on the document says, was John Hancocks, and he was presiding over the Continental Congress. And of course, the British knew that plans were being made because they had spies and each of the colonies were preparing to have governments in their colonies. So they knew things were going on, but they didn't know who and which people were the ones that were causing all this problem. They knew some of them. And Hancock was a leader as a presiding officer. And matter of fact, when Lexington and Concord, he and John Adams were the ones the British were trying to arrest a year earlier. So when they did the Declaration of Independence and voted on it, they realized that when you signed your name to that document, you were basically having a death warrant put on your head. And they were hesitating a little bit. So Hancock signed it first and largest and said, there, I guess King George will be able to see Read this without his spectacles. So he stepped up with great courage and led.
SPEAKER 17 :
And to your point, really what these guys knew was in England's eyes, we're now committing treason, I should say, Richard. And at the end of the day, if this all goes bad, let's just say that we're not going to be in a good place.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and I wanted to talk about Hancock because his birthday was the other day, but all of the people that signed, they pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor. Most of them suffered during the war that lasted seven years after the Declaration, but not one of them broke their trust with the other signers. They all held true to their word, and that to me is so fascinating because It's very difficult to have a group that size in any kind of an endeavor and have everyone follow through on what they say they will do.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. And, again, these were individuals that – and we've talked about this many times in the past, Richard. I've talked about it even with you not being here on this particular program. I've talked about it to other individuals. I mean, there were a lot of those founding fathers that literally knew, okay, I'm going to do this. This could go really bad. I could end up dead penniless. Some of them did, by the way. At the end of the day, Richard, they all knew that were the possibilities. Those were the risks, and yet they still decided to move forward.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, and part of the other reason I like talking about Hancock is we think about the Revolutionary War, and it's easy to think about the soldiers with the muskets fighting British forces. But there were a lot of other people who contributed in various ways, and Hancock was one of them. He was fortunate that he had a small inheritance, and that enabled him to go into public service, which is what it was at that time. And he provided a great deal of financing for the Army. So he didn't fight physically himself, but he helped the way he could help best. And that's what's so important for our country today. We all can't be the same type person, but all of the things we do positively all contribute to the betterment of our country.
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I know this is a little off topic, but maybe not, Richard. Where do you feel like we've lost some of this? In other words, I don't think I'm wrong in saying this. I think there's a lion's share of individuals in this country, including politicians, politicians, where if they had to make some of the same bold statements our founding fathers did and lose everything overtaking that stand, in fact, losing, in some cases, their own life, they'd be the first to back away and not do it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yes. And as I talk about a lot of times, when the fur flies, the weak leaders head for the tall grass. And we see that over and over and over again. And that was one of the great things about all the founders. They put aside their personal ambitions and goals and interests for the team, so to speak, for the country. And that was one of the greatest examples, and I would love it. And I think we've got a great opportunity now to have the greatest, I'll use the word revival, since at least the Civil War, in having the country come back together and have us be successful and celebrate success, celebrate our heroes. celebrate and merit everyone go out and pursue and chase their dreams and be the best we can be.
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And I know there's a lot of folks out there listening right now that are really big fans of Donald Trump. They love him. I also know I've got listeners that are probably sort of in the middle of the road, and I've got others listening that can't stand the man, maybe even voted for him, but definitely don't like him. I will tell you this, though, Richard, like him or not, What I said a moment ago about people around the country and especially politicians, I will say that is one thing you cannot fault Donald Trump for. He realizes what's at risk. He's willing to give it all. He's lost great loads of money doing the things that he's been doing along these lines. And if there's anybody that is very close to the founding fathers in regards to knowing what it takes to make this happen and willing to give it all, it's him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's exactly true, and at least going back to Woodrow Wilson's time, the development of personal or professional politicians and the elevation of salaries so they could live and be professional politicians versus public servants who came and served and sacrificed and then went home has come to fruition, and the professional politicians tell us, hey, we know all this detail, and they try to make it complicated, trying to discourage people from learning and understanding and participating so that we have to look to them. And Donald Trump shows that you do not have to be a professional politician to succeed and to help the country. And it should be the same for all of us citizens where we can go serve in different capacities for different types.
SPEAKER 17 :
Actually, it's better if you're not. And I'll share this with you because you probably weren't listening to me the last couple of days. But I've really rallied hard these last couple of days or railed hard, I guess I should say, Richard, against most politicians because there's a few good ones and there's a few really intelligent, smart politicians. But I, for one, feel that, number one, most politicians aren't very sharp individuals. They're just not the brightest of the bright. And I think, Richard... And I want you to bear with me here, but I think it's by design because the large special interest groups, and you can see it even happening right now with Big Pharma and RFK Jr.' 's confirmation. Reality, Richard, is a lot of the quote-unquote powers that be. don't want super smart people there because if they're super smart, they'll catch on to what's really going on, by the way, like Donald Trump has. And the reality is they won't get what they want if there's really smart people in office. So they back and choose, in my opinion, a lot of people that, yes, they know they can get them elected, but they're also not the sharpest tack in the box.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I agree 100%. And they don't want people who can think independently, right? because those people will stand up and say, this doesn't make sense, we shouldn't do that. And William F. Buckley was so brilliant, and I loved him when he said, I would rather be governed by the first 535 people in the New York City phone book than Congress, because he felt the exact same way.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it hasn't changed. It's gotten worse, actually, Richard. It's worse now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, it's gotten worse, and my hope is this administration – will break the mold of the professional politician as well as some of the media elites. And whether Democrats or Republicans are elected in the future, I hope there's more public servants and statesmen and less professional politicians.
SPEAKER 17 :
Amen. I cannot agree with you any more than that, Richard. Spot on. All right, talk about the website. Folks can find you. I know it sounds like a long way away, but it's not. We'll have spring break, and before you know it, Richard, graduations will be rolling around. You've got some great resources for folks looking for special gifts for those individuals. How do they find those?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, in any gifts for any occasions, including Valentine's Day, But my website is richardbattle.com. All books are signed there. We have them all there. If you'd like something inscribed and personalized, we're happy to do it if you'll email me, richard, at richardbattle.com. We also have everything at Amazon under Richard V. Battle, including Kindle and audio versions.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Some of you may have been following a little bit about what's going on in regards to our new White House press secretary. By the way, I think youngest ever. Am I saying that correctly, Charlie? Yeah, 27 years of age, youngest ever, Caroline, is it Levitt? Am I saying that right? Yeah, Caroline Levitt. And she, I watched this late last night. She made some announcements yesterday that I can guarantee you a lot of the left are cringing at, probably going one step further and saying, crap, now what? And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. And what I mean by that is I'm going to play this, let you listen, and I'll explain why I think some of them are saying that as soon as she's done. Let me make sure, Charlie, the sound is all the way up. Here we go.
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President Trump has held multiple news conferences, gaggled on Air Force One multiple times, and sat down for a two-part interview on Fox News, which aired last week. As Politico summed it up best, Trump is everywhere again. And that's because President Trump has a great story to tell about the legendary American revival that is well underway. And in keeping with this revolutionary media approach that President Trump deployed during the campaign, the Trump White House will speak to all media outlets and personalities, not just the legacy media who are seated in this room. Because according to recent polling from Gallup, Americans' trust in mass media has fallen to a record low. Millions of Americans, especially young people, have turned from traditional television outlets and newspapers to consume their news from podcasts, blogs, social media, and other independent outlets. It's essential to our team that we share President Trump's message everywhere and adapt this White House to the new media landscape in 2025. To do this, I am excited to announce the following changes will be made to this historic James S. Brady briefing room, where Mr. Brady's legacy will endure. This White House believes strongly in the First Amendment, so it's why our team will work diligently to restore the press passes of the 440 journalists whose passes were wrongly revoked by the previous administration. We're also opening up this briefing room to new media voices who produce news-related content and whose outlet is not already represented by one of the seats in this room. We welcome independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, and content creators to apply for credentials to cover this White House. And you can apply now on our new website, whitehouse.gov slash newmedia. Starting today, this seat in the front of the room, which is usually occupied by the press secretary's staff, will be called the new media seat. My team will review the applications and give credentials to new media applicants who meet our criteria and pass United States Secret Service requirements to enter the White House complex. So in light of these announcements, our first questions for today's briefing will go to these new media members whose outlets, despite being some of the most viewed news websites in the country, have not been given seats in this room.
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There you go. awesome and i think with everything she said you probably know why i said earlier that there are some outlets out there and a lot on the left saying oh crap now what you mean a lot of these alternative news sources are going to have firsthand information as to what's going on in press briefings and have access to even be able to speak to Mr. Trump, our president, in some cases on a one-on-one basis, and, and, and, and, and? Yeah. Yeah, that's what it means. So all of you lefties... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now, it's been ending for a while, and I've talked about this and even argued, by the way, with Bob Duco on the National Crawford Roundtable about this very subject, because I have felt like for quite some time that mass media is in a downward spiral and will not be relevant much longer. Bob tends to disagree with me. He thinks they've got a lot of power, and because of big money and so on, they'll be around for a considerable length of time. And frankly, I'm not so convinced. And partly because of what just happened in this particular briefing yesterday that I just played. The alternative media sources, which is where a lot, and by the way, it's not just young people. A lot of you listening to me, by the way, you're my age, and you're not gathering your information from mass media any longer either. You're not even getting it from the local news stations. You're doing the exact same thing I do. You're out there searching for, seeking out, and finding news in way more sources than what, frankly, your local news or national media sources. gives so this is a trend that's been going on in all the White House did yesterday all President Trump did because really a lot of this is coming from him and his team all they did yesterday is give a huge booster shot to it yesterday and I am positive that beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the mass media, the big moguls, CBS, ABC, NBC, and others, PBS and so on, I don't know if you'd throw them in the same category, but they're looking at this saying, oh, oh, man. And by the way, this includes even some of the larger websites where they will have individuals there that are representing that particular website, that outlet, Wall Street Journal and so on. They send folks to these briefings as well. And even they, even though they're not on television, they are considered mass media. A lot of these folks are going to now have to start competing with a lot of these other individuals that give out news on a regular basis. And I can tell you right now, they are not going to like it. This is a huge shakeup. Is it not, Charlie? Big time. And I say that, folks, because, again, remember what she said. Under the Biden administration, roughly 440 individuals had their press passes removed. And we know some of those people. We've interviewed them here on this program before. And they were denied access for whatever reason. Those are going to most likely be restored. On top of that, you're going to have other new news outlets coming in and actually having these briefings right in front of them and, again, have access that they didn't have prior. It's not Sleepy Joe anymore, by the way. It's not our last press secretary that had to have three different binders in front of her tab so she could actually answer a question. That's ending. And I guess what I could say is the good old boys when it comes to the press club at the White House, which let's face it, that's what it's been for years and years and years now. That's pretty much ending. Now, will those particular individuals still go and still observe and do the things that they've been doing and ask questions? Yeah, I'm guessing they will, although they are not going to be front and center like they've been all along. That will definitely change. And by the way, much, much, much needed change in that area. It has been far too stagnant and far too much of the good old boys club up to this point in time. This is a breath of fresh air. When I saw that late last night, I was scrolling through some of the feeds and different things that I get out there, and I actually saw a little excerpt of this come on, and I had to go look it up to get the longer chunk of it so I could listen to the whole two and a half minutes or so. I am just like, this is a game changer. It is a game changer. And I know to a lot of people, you may listen to that and think, OK, big deal. It is a big deal, folks. Trust me. Trust me. Trump and his team will now have access to not just three or four major outlets, maybe half a dozen major outlets, but now literally hundreds of outlets of individuals that are out there spreading the news, reporting on what's going on and sending that out to all of their different listeners and followers. And this is, in my opinion, it's a huge day for the First Amendment. So thank you. By the way, I know that the White House press secretary is not listening, but very, very sharp young lady. who will handle herself very well, already has. There's been lots of things that she's already had thrown at her that she's handled very, very well. So anyways, I thought that was great. I'm excited. I hope you guys are as well. Bruce Simmons, he is up next. He is our reverse mortgage professor. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, welcome.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks for having me, as always.
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Always a joy. Lots going on in D.C., especially on Capitol Hill when it comes to confirmations.
SPEAKER 04 :
Rightfully so. We want to get these nominees in. I would say that is probably one of their number one priorities. And you know how they like to filibuster and prolong these hearings. So it's really nice to see things kind of just taking the next step.
SPEAKER 17 :
I talked about it during Hour 1 a little bit, and that's the confirmation of RFK Jr. and the fact, Sonny, that I'm not surprised. And maybe he will have a change of tune as to what letter is next to his name, although I'm not sure Kennedy could ever change that, although his own party is the ones really coming out in full force against him. And at some point, Sonny, that's got to be a wake-up call even to RFK Jr.,
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I think it absolutely is. And I would even go so far as to say that they that actually woke them up out of the haze to and them, meaning him and his wife, because, of course, she was, you know, an anti-Trumper and she's an actress in Hollywood. Of course, I'm sure she got serious pushback from her, you know, her community and her peers, colleagues, whatnot. But I think, you know, going through the process way back, you know, even even before he was working with Trump and it was official and all of that. I think that was actually probably one of the things that led to his impetus of joining forces with Trump just because his own party was slandering him, smearing him, doing all of the things. And that is clear up to this very day when they simply cannot put their emotions aside to look at facts. And one of the craziest things was them trying to, I think it was Senator Warnock was you know, was sharing a quotation that RFK Jr. had said, you know, claiming that RFK Jr. had compared the CDC to Nazi death camps. And he read the quotation, and nowhere in the quotation was that, you know, was that alluded to. I mean, I think, and then he goes, well, I was talking about the rate of injury in children is that of other incidents in history. And so I think Honestly, R.K. Jr. presented a master class on communication. He speaks so precisely. And I think that is where our I keep saying our nominees because I support them. But the nominees do really well and they're very successful because they are strictly fact based. And that is precisely why, you know, someone like Secretary Hegseth was confirmed because. Because the proof is in the pudding.
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Yeah, absolutely. And for those of you listening, you can go and look at some of the testimony and what was going on in the hearing. But RFK Jr., to Sonny's point, started off with, today, Americans, which, by the way, he's correct in these statements I'm going to read to you, overall health is in grievous condition. Over 70% of adults... and a third of children are overweight or obese. Diabetes is 10 times more prevalent than it was during the 60s. Cancer among young people is rising by 1 or 2 percent a year. Autoimmune diseases, neurodevelopmental disorders. Alzheimer's, asthma, ADHD, depression, addiction, and a host of other physical and mental health conditions are all on the rise, some of them exponentially. The United States has worse health than any other developed nation, yet we spend more on health care, at least double and in some cases triple what other countries spend. Last year, we spent $4.8 trillion, not counting the indirect cost of missed work. works. A healthy person has a thousand dreams. A six person has only one. Today, over half of our countrymen and women are chronically ill. Sonny, there is not a single thing he said there that wasn't factual.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not a single thing. And this is a bipartisan effort. If we don't have healthy children, if we don't have healthy adults, for that matter, we have no future, period.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
This should not if anybody who is I mean, of course, there may be rightful things that you can disagree with him on certain issues and whatnot. But coming straight from his mouth, his goal is to make children healthy again, make America healthy again. Regardless of the pun of that statement, that is when he said, I have dedicated my life, 40 plus years, to holding children. people accountable that have direct impact on our children's health and adults' health in this country. If we don't do something about it, we will not have a future. And to that point, he said, you know, do you think that all that money, the $900 billion that we're sending to Medicaid every year has made Americans healthy? Do we think that that is working for anybody? And it begs the question, because I truly believe that You know, some, you know, I would say this is a socialist style of thinking, a socialist style ideology that throwing money at, you know, oh, yeah, we're going to make people healthy. Let's just throw money at this government program that that somehow equates to the level, the level and quality of that care and an increase in better health for the people who are sick. who are being supported by Medicaid. I mean, that correlation is not there.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it isn't. You bring up some great points. The reality is we've got this system whereby we're just going to throw money at something. Big pharma, big insurance, by the way, they're huge on this. By the way, one of the things that that RFK Jr. talked about today is how much the average American hates Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act because it's not affordable. I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but essentially, Sonny, that's what he said. And the reality is he's correct. The majority of people hate it. Their expenses have gone way up. To your point, we are spending more dollars today than ever, and yet most Americans are less healthy today than they were. And by the way, Sonny, that includes, you know, we're a country where literally there are health clubs all on almost every corner. Maybe exaggerating a little bit, but let's face it, there are a ton of them out there. We have all sorts of diet programs. We have all sorts of things at our fingertips that we can use to, quote-unquote, get healthy. But at the end of the day, Sonny, as a country, we're less healthy today than ever.
SPEAKER 04 :
And some people continue to remain in denial about certain things that have happened in the very recent past that have been completely proven to have been false. And not to mention have had negative impacts on people's lives. Is that a blanket statement? What I'm referring to is the COVID pandemic, of course, the vaccine, and the Medicare and Medicaid. And he made a really good point when he said, I think it was, to Senator Cortez Masto, a Democrat from Nevada, when he said, if we don't solve the problem of the chronic disease epidemic, all of the other disputes we have about who's paying, whether it's insurance companies, providers, HMOs, patients or families, all of those are just moving desk chairs around on the Titanic. Our ship is sinking. 60% increase in Medicaid over the past four years is the biggest budget line now, and it's growing faster than any other nation. No other nation in the world has what we have here. And then he said during COVID, we had 16% of the COVID deaths in a country where we only have 4.2% of the world's population. Why is that? Because the people who were getting COVID, it's not necessarily that they died from COVID, which was proven, even though they were saying, oh, everybody's dying from COVID. It was because they had other – it says the average American who died from COVID had 3.8 chronic diseases. This is an existential threat. And anybody who can truly argue with him on just simply the idea of what he wants to do on that alone, you are standing in the way of a better America. You are standing in the way of protecting a future of freedom in this country and not – allowing the future leaders of this country to flourish and pouring into our children, investing in the future of our children so that they can be alive to see the future.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. No, and Sonny, everything you're saying, especially in regards to this being, and I believe it is, really being a ploy from the Marxist movement, the reality, Sonny, is they don't want you healthy. They don't want you mentally ill. healthy. They don't want you physically healthy. If they can somehow get in your brain and make you think for some odd reason you're the wrong gender, and on and on we go, Sonny. And I'm not exaggerating when I say these things, folks. The Marxist movement, as you know, Sonny, is designed to disrupt from within. If they can do that in any level possible, financially, health, mental health, believe me, they will do that. And Sonny, they have done a really good job of that.
SPEAKER 04 :
They have. This is by design. And let's not even get into the stream of thinking of, you know, a lot of these politicians are making money from insurance companies and providers and whatnot. And if you are so adamantly, you know, trying to protect insurance companies, there's got to be some ulterior motive there. You know, we have the question of why vaccine manufacturers cannot be held liable for They're experimental drugs, and that is because there are side effects. And these people don't want to have to be liable if they're a stakeholder of that company. I mean, follow the money. This is just as simple as could be. And it's just really, really sad and heartbreaking, honestly, that these politicians have the audacity. They should be ashamed of themselves for sitting there slandering him. Yep. to his faith, not even allowing him to answer their own questions that they're asking him, it's disgusting.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is. No, you are right, and you're fired up. I've been fired up. The reality is his own party has literally turned against him. Again, like I said earlier, he really needs to think about, number one, that... Mark, next to his name, and by the way, if he ends up getting confirmed, which I sure hope he does, Sonny, I really mean that. I think there's a lot of things that he could do to help us become a more healthy country. And by the way, turning some of those things around and making people more aware. of what's going on in that particular area saving money by the way at the end of the day remember to all of this sunny takes money out of people's pockets we get people healthy again not only do they think clear not only do they have a better life but at the end of the day by the way they've got more cash
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And yeah, I mean, just to reiterate it, it's just disgusting that these people are not focusing on how to make people healthier, how to get people off of Medicaid, you know, how to be able to support themselves and be able to choose care that they prefer, that is priority for them in their lives and what aligns with their values and their families.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it's just, I really think that this particular nominee, RFK Jr., is just, his him being chosen is so symbolic of the populist movement that President Trump is leading because he's chosen RFK Jr. not because of the letter next to his name, not because of money is exchanged, not because he was, you know, the next person in line and, you know, seniority, we got to give, you know, Mitch McConnell the speakership because he's the next in line and, you know, that kind of, line of thinking. This is truly, you know, they came together, they aligned on their values, they aligned on the mission, which is to bring health back to the priority of our values as a nation. We are the most successful nation in the world, but our children are dying at an astronomic rate. Giving Ozempic to children as young as six years old, you cannot change my mind. You cannot say that that is to better the lives of of children, there isn't even enough data to support that. So anybody who would say that there is, is just flat out lying because the ulterior motive is the money that is made, you get sick, stay sick, and become a client, a customer of big pharma for the rest of your life. And that is how they have stayed in business. The healthcare industry is, I'm pretty sure it's the biggest industry that exists.
SPEAKER 17 :
They have done a really good job of capitalizing on those things. I've talked about it on other days of the program, outside of even on Wednesday Sunny, where I hope one of the first things RFK Jr. does, if confirmed, is get through Congress – This idea that we in New Zealand are the only two countries in the world that allow big pharma ads on network television, all of that needs to end. Reality is, by the way, too, Sonny, if you did that, it would take the wind and a lot of the money out of the sails of a lot of those big networks that, by the way, I think are already on their way down. You do this, it's just a nail in the coffin for some of them. which at the end of the day, by the way, is a good thing because the reality is they do not give you the news. They do not give you honest news. They are very tainted. They are literally controlled by the left. And if we eliminate that, our ability as conservatives down the road to communicate and have fair elections and so on, Sonny, changes immensely. That would be one huge black eye on the Marxist movement.
SPEAKER 04 :
Confirming RFK Jr.?
SPEAKER 17 :
Confirming him and getting rid of Big Pharma ads.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely. I mean, that is number one priority as far as this line of the agenda goes because it's crazy. And I think he makes a really good point. He has such a great stance because two things can be true at the same time. Can Can medication and drugs be effective and innovative and help so many people? Yeah. But are there many side effects? Why are we forcing kids to be put on SSRIs or even promoting it or encouraging it even? You know, they like to say, well, that should be discussed between the patient and their provider. Well, okay, it should be then. Why are we convincing children that they need to be put on antidepressants? So I think there was a really good moment there when the senator, you know, revealed personal story about herself, which, you know, that's very, that's helpful. You know, she said it helped her and he said, well, I'm really glad that the SSRI has helped you, but that doesn't mean that we need to be giving them to kids of all ages. And for what reason, you know, there is just not enough scientific data to, you know, to provide that, that shows, oh, look, this is really effective. In fact, it's almost, there is negative data saying, showing that it correlates to really bad incidents. Like, kids that have just anxiety and compiled with the COVID pandemic and the lack of school and just all of these social media and video games and technology and AI and all of these things, we need to be prioritizing our children in a way that actually helps them and speaks to their needs, not just getting them addicted to SSRIs and to say that these things are not addictive is just, I mean, it's just an absolutely denial of reality. And so, I mean, listen, that's the take. And I think I think getting those ads is very important because, again, he shows we need critical thinking. This isn't about blanket statement, blanket banning, you know, saying drugs are bad or banning all drugs. That's not what this is about. This is really getting back to the root of it, which, you know, I thought Democrats were all in support of, like I just mentioned. So there really shouldn't be pushback on this. But, of course, they're allowing their personal opinion. feelings to get in the way of the future health of America. And that is what rules for radicals, I mean, that's what radicals do. That is their rule. And that's why they're smearing him. That's why they have no evidence to back up their actual reasonings, just saying, oh, are you going to fire people? Are you going to cut funding? And instead of saying, okay, well, if you're going to cut funding, how are you going to better utilize the funding that you do have to make these systems better. He's saying, I'm not cutting just to cut them. I want to make the system better.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, how do folks find you and support you guys?
SPEAKER 04 :
You can find us everywhere. Yas underscore America is our handle on Instagram. Yas.org. We're a 501c3. Definitely support our mission if you can. We create educational resources for kids and all Americans to learn about American values and the principles of the Constitution and share stories of survivors, of socialists and communists. countries. We also just created a TikTok. We're trying to get into that thing. I've been doing some videos over there. Honestly, the comments have been great. People are really fired up and really responding. It's a great conversation over there. If you're somebody who likes to scroll on the top and check us out, same handle, Yas underscore America. We're really grateful for your support and your community. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome, Sunny. Appreciate it very much. Have a great evening. We'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you so much. Have a great one.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we are back. Joe, I've got a couple of minutes. Go ahead, sir. John, if you don't want to take a minute, it's a public service message for any of your listeners who may not be in the country illegally. This is a list from the Babylon Bee, 10 ways to avoid being picked up by ICE. Number one, go back home. Simple but effective. Yeah, there you go. Number two, obey immigration laws. Studies have shown that the best way to avoid being charged with a crime is not to break the law. Three, resist the urge to lead an armed gang to forcibly take over an apartment complex. It may be difficult to resist that urge, but your willpower will pay off. Next, don't rape anyone. This activity may draw too much attention to you. Next, learn English. Making a convincing case to the governing authorities is much easier when you can actually speak a language they understand. Number seven, cut back to less than one murder per week. ICE is targeting violent criminals first, so go easy on the murdering. Number eight, get your MS-13 face tattoos removed. Lazy removal may be pricey, but it will help you be less conspicuous. Number nine, ask Selena Gomez to hide you in one of her many mansions. Yeah, good one. All right. Number 10, I love this one. Find the perfect hiding place, like Venezuela. ICE will never look for you there.
SPEAKER 17 :
All good. Can't argue with any of those, actually.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. And, John, just one more thing. Maybe in the next hour you can ask your question. In New York City last night, Police arrested 10 Chardin de Oroco members.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now the guy's like, we had an Aurora here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, and they seized 34 guns. Now, many of which were illegal in New York State, and some were legal under federal law, like fully automatic pistols. So my question is, how did these guys pass the background check law?
SPEAKER 17 :
Given the fact they're not even citizens? Great question, Joe.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because a non-citizen cannot legally— With very, very few exceptions. They're like, if you come here for a hunting trip, blah, blah, blah. But you can't buy a gun in this country if you're not a citizen. So my question is, how did these 10 Trendier Rego guys acquire 34 guns, several of them illegal? illegal under state and federal law. How does that happen?
SPEAKER 17 :
Great question, Joe. That, by the way, is the million-dollar question.
SPEAKER 1 :
All right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you, man. Appreciate you, Joe. Have a great rest of your night as well. We've got another full hour coming your way, as Joe just said, so don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. A.J. Rice joining us now, author of the White Privilege album, Bringing Racial Harmony to Very Fine People on Both Sides. We've interviewed A.J. plenty in the past, and somebody that most of you don't know, but I talk to on almost, or communicate with, I should say, A.J., on almost a weekly basis, if not a weekly basis.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great to be back. Johnny Boy, big shout-out to the Very Fine People podcast. They delivered in November, and they're going to deliver here with these cabinet picks.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. So let's talk about a few of those. First off, Pete, we got him confirmed. I say we. I mean, I didn't have anything to do with that, but maybe we did. I hope we might have had a little bit of influence there. AJ, that one, by the way, I was really worried about because I wasn't sure whether he was going to make it through or not, but he did.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a game of inches, right? Most of the game takes place between the 40-yard line, but if you're going to score, sometimes you've got to be like the Philadelphia Eagles and do the push-push.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just push right into the end zone over those commanders.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, A.J., some of the stupid – and I really – I mean the stupid questions that came his way, like have you ever performed an audit on this large of an organization and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And my first thought was had any of the other prior defense secretaries done that? No.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not at all. And, I mean, let's be honest. I mean, you and I have talked about this, and my books weigh in on some of this. If Abraham Lincoln was the great emancipator – and Ronald Reagan was the great communicator. Donald Trump is the great disruptor. And he's not alone this time around. No, he's not. He's not rolling in here with Reince Priebus and Kellyanne like he was in 2016. So he has come in with an entire team of disruptors. Because you can't just, you know, the fish rot from the head, yes, but the rest of the fish is rotten as well. And you can't just take the tops off of these departments. You have to send disruptors in, like Scott Besson, like Tulsi Gabbard, like Cash, like RFK Jr., like Pete, like Pam Bondi, and you have to drop a bunker buster on these departments. Ten levels down. You've got to go ten levels down.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really quick, we've talked about some of this in the past. I think that's the biggest difference this time around with Trump than prior is, A, he learned a lot the last time around and was coming in this time literally, A.J., guns a-blazing, knowing exactly what needed to happen. I mean, I don't know in my time, You know, looking back and remembering first, you know, first president voted for was Ronald Reagan. I can't think of any other presidents that did what Donald Trump did inauguration night, signing executive orders the way he did.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's never been done like that. It's never been where we're operating on Trump time now. OK, so 10 years take place in 10 minutes. Right. Yeah. And look, I can tell you, I'm talking to them. I'm talking to the White House on a daily basis. I was talking to the transition team. And, you know, I don't know whether you've connected all the dots, but, I mean, half of the Cabinet are former Publius PR clients.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not just the big names I just rattled off.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But, I mean, we're talking undersecretaries of the Air Force and all kinds of people. And they are all stone-cold anti-wokism warriors. So, you know, we're going to have to go, you know, from department to department and like bloodhounds in the backyard, Johnny boy, and dig this stuff up to get it out of here.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're right. You know, AJ, you are spot on, and I believe, I do, I believe fully, and I know a lot of people maybe are a little bit skeptical, although when you say what you just said and you look at the people that he's bringing in around him, and literally these are people that mean business. They're not going to take no for an answer. You know, he is setting all sorts of precedents, if you would, in regards to Things like, hey, we are not going to hire any more federal employees. There's a freeze on that. Oh, by the way, all you DEI guys, yeah, you're gone as well. And oh, by the way, don't be trying to disguise your DEI department as something else because we're going to still root that out, find you, and still make sure you don't have a job at the end of the day. These are things, AJ, no one else has ever done.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And look, the Democrats are still the gang that can't shoot straight. They can't figure out, you know, how to... stop what is coming.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's stop there for a moment, because what you just said a moment ago, you know, Trump's the great disruptor, which, by the way, I believe that wholeheartedly. These guys that you're talking about, these hardcore Marxist lefties, have never had anybody come along and disrupt them to this level. Now, I do believe that they thought Trump, by the way, would would do some of these things, although not to this degree. And they literally, A.J., have never had anybody come along and push back against them like he is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, let me just tell you. Here's the thing. There is an institute in Washington that was started after the 2020 election called America First Policy Institute. It was an America First version of a Heritage Foundation type place. And there were plans in place. for after the 2020 election to systematically move, you know, like shooting 100 Tomahawk missiles into Syria at the speed of light, at the speed of Trump time. And this stuff was ready. And the Democrats, I guess, didn't realize it was ready. They were too busy following the Project 2025 around to not realize that over at the other American... policy institute right that the roadmap of the blueprint for what was coming was was ready to go this is why he was able to he's able to move as fast as he can great point and look you know that's the thing is there they don't know which which you know car to chase no no they don't know yeah you're you're right they're they're that dog chasing cars and don't know which tire to bite correct correct so and that and that's the main thing here with trump and look um let me just say this too The American people sent him there to disrupt.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
They sent him there for this. And he's, you know, he's basically he doesn't have to run for reelection again. So he's just going to be Trumpzilla. He just, I mean, really?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know? You're right. And he's not going to play games. Look, he tried to play nice with the establishment, the swamp, the uniparty in 2016 with the Mattises and the John Boltons with the mustache and the H.R. McMasters and the Rex Killersons and so on. That got him nowhere. It got him basically impeached twice, indicted four times, went with two assassins on the field. So this is who you're dealing with. And he didn't start out this way. You created this. So now you're going to have to take your medicine.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point. No, A.J., spot on. It's been an exciting week. I'm looking forward to the future. I predicted yesterday that you're going to see him run this end of things like this, executive orders, different things that he's doing. He'll let all of his folks get confirmed. He'll then start to hand some things over to them, and then he'll start working on some of the next big projects and tasks that are out there. He'll start working with Congress and the Senate on, hey, we need to run these bills, get these things changed, get some of these things set in stone so the next guy coming in, whoever that might be and whenever that might be, can't change these things. And by the way, to your point, A.J., that's what the American people sent him there to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct. And for all this talk and all this outrage and the crying Selena Gomez, I just want to remind your audience about one thing. There were two blue walls that came down in November. Yes, the one up in the Rust Belt, but the second blue wall came down, and it runs from basically Brownsville, Texas, to El Paso, Texas. These counties along the Mexican border are not exactly filled with Scandinavians.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they all voted for him. So this idea that we're all crying because the lettuce pickers of America are being vacuumed up, oh, no. They are on the front lines down there, Hispanic Catholics being killed, trafficking, drug trafficking, human trafficking. These are Democrat districts, and they all voted for Trump. So they are on the front lines, and they certainly know more than some Hollywood elite in their mansion in West Hollywood.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, yep. And I talked last hour, too, and I think this is a huge game changer. Somebody just asked me, hey, what were you talking about last hour that you think is going to be a huge game changer when it comes to the White House? And that is now, AJ, the allowance of a lot of other news organizations, podcasters and so on, that are now going to be allowed a seat at the table to be able to sit in these press conferences. is going to be very detrimental to the regular mainstream news media because it's going to give credibility to a lot of folks by the way that firmly deserve it aj but that is in my opinion a huge game changer one that between that and if rfk jr gets confirmed and then can end all pharma ads which by the way we need to end in america because us and new zealand are the only two countries that allow it if that happens uh let's just say this aj that's a death nail for the big networks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And look, I've been here in the swamp for 20 years, and the mainstream media, the legacy media, they have this, we need to break the stranglehold, especially in the White House. You know, the audience, I'm sure, realizes this, but let me just state that, you know, there's this organization here, the White House Correspondents Organization, where every year they throw this party to themselves and pat themselves on the back for being little, good little digital Marxists. That needs to be broken. And, you know, you can break it by bringing podcasters in, influencers in. And I think Caroline Leavitt, who's a star, who's a total freaking rock star, she's going to help break that because, you know, How many people does NBC News speak for? Do they speak for more people than Theo Vaughn does? I don't know. I'm not sure anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I can tell you right now, when you compare their numbers to a Joe Rogan, for example, with about millions upon millions of followers and folks that listen to his podcast, A.J., that one's pretty easy to determine who's got more followers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that's just right. And these people—and I'm here, man— I came up like a puppy here, okay? So I didn't just parachute in here. I built the Publius PR Mountain right in the middle of the Potomac River. And I'm telling you, these people all watch each other. They all congratulate each other. They all date each other. And it's one big circle, Jay, with each other. And they don't really have an audience outside of, you know, New York and L.A. and D.C. They don't. So, you know, the idea that – I thought they wanted the equal distribution of wealth. Well, how about the equal distribution of a chance and a question?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, absolutely. It is a game changer, A.J. A lot of things are going to change moving forward. I don't think the left honestly has any idea what's coming their way because, to your point, their head has been – well, let's just say this, A.J., They have been more worried about trying to figure out whether they're male or female and teaching kids that same thing. They're more worried about transgender bathrooms and things along those lines. At the end of the day, AJ, they have literally gotten so off track that this has got to be catching them by surprise.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it shouldn't. And, you know, as someone that loves watching them lose, I say keep it up. Keep planting your flag with the trans mafia. AOC is getting into a fight with Nancy Mace on Capitol Hill about letting dudes in the women's bathroom. I say keep it up. Don't talk anymore to the UAW. Don't talk to the Plumbers Union in Pennsylvania. Don't talk to the Coal Miners Union in West Virginia. And just keep talking to the 0.8% of people that think they were born in the wrong body.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point. Good point. AJ, always great. I always enjoy not only you, but the folks that you send our way. I'm very appreciative of that. And those of you listening, AJ is very instrumental in a lot of the top dogs you get to hear here on our program on a routine basis. And yeah, AJ, I'm very thankful for that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I appreciate you, brother. You keep fighting out there. And to all you Broncos fans, have no fear. Ben Franklin and the Philadelphia Eagles are going to take it to these Chiefs.
SPEAKER 16 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, it has been an interesting and eventful, I should say, past week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Totally. For a lot of the different reasons than we thought it would be.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And one of the things I wanted to bring up today, which I haven't talked much about, in fact, I was waiting for you today to really get into the whole hoopla earlier in the week about, you know, the whole AI end of things and what happened with Japan or sorry, with China's deep seek and all of that. And I wanted to talk to you about this because when I first saw it, I'm like, OK, wait a minute. And I read through, and by the way, Scott, did a little bit of research and read through the explanation as to how they were supposedly able to do what they did. And while all of it sounded good, I'm thinking to myself, okay, wait a minute, time out. It's all open source, which I get, basically meaning they've probably already used something else as a base and then built on top of that. And I guess in the back of my mind, Scott, the entire time I'm thinking, hey, wait a minute, this is a Chinese company. who, by the way, China's never known to be super truthful about things. They work off of the backs of everybody else. They've never really invented anything, per se, and I mean that sincerely. So how can they do what they claim to be doing, and who's going to fact-check that and make sure that they can back it up?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, so that's the real question. So there are a couple of interesting things here, too. So maybe we should back it up a little bit, too. So Deep Seek, this story has been out there for a while. There have been a number of people that reported on this. I know like Deirdre Bosa over at CNBC did a story in early December. But so what I found interesting as from an investor and a fund manager positioning standpoint is this story came out on Sunday and this week, we're seeing all the major technology companies in the U S report earnings.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the big thing around that is people have questioned, or the guys are, have been shorting these stocks. There's, there's also, there is a record amount of stocks short in big cap technology companies right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the, the big thing that these guys complained about is all these companies are spending too much money and they're never going to recoup their, their investment. Well, Deep Seek is able, according to this article or Deep Seek's claim, they can train these models for $6 million versus the American companies are doing it for anywhere between $100 million and $1 billion. So that's, you know, that would be good.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a significant savings when it's all said and done. And again, like I told you, Scott, my first thought was, says who?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, that's it. So I got skeptical as soon as I saw that as well for a myriad of reasons, some of which you're talking about and then the other stuff, the positioning stuff. So I did some digging as well. And so what's interesting is the guy who backs DeepSeek, I believe his name is Liang Wenfang, he is a hedge fund manager in China. Imagine that. Yeah. Yeah. He may not have any stake in any stocks going into this either. He is a big investor in technology, though. It's a quant hedge fund, and apparently it's done well. He foresaw, he's a big believer in AI, and he realized way back, I think it was like 2020, 2021, that he figured the U.S. was going to start putting curbs on GPUs being sold to China. He started aggressively buying these NVIDIA GPUs, the H800 in particular. Now, from the research I've done, it's tough to nail down a number, but they range between $41,500 and $65,000 per chip. Yeah, $40,000 to $60,000 roughly is what I've understood. And so this guy supposedly acquired 50,000 of these GPUs before... these curves went into place. And so, you know, if we start doing the math on that, let's say they were even, let's just discount it, say that he spent $30,000 per chip because he bought some somehow in the black market in China. They were cheap, and that's $1.5 billion of expense right there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. That's a little bit higher than what they were publicizing on Monday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. So to me, when you start doing a bunch of the back-end math and digging in, It's like, wait a second, it costs $1.5 billion just to get the chips.
SPEAKER 16 :
That doesn't count any of the other technology going into building, quote-unquote, their AI model.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the people and the hours, and this is like the fifth or sixth version of this AI model. So, you know, they spent multiple years, like you said at the start, getting to this point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. Meaning, and this is how I looked at it, Scott, and I was really skeptical to begin with. And I'm like, OK, well, maybe they did this. And I watched some of the explanations that came out. And there's some folks out there that kind of broke it down and talked about how. You know, they have strung some things together and they're not being quite as, quote unquote, accurate as maybe ours is. But it's accurate enough. And I know I'm kind of paraphrasing here, Scott, but I read a lot of different things on this. And I'm like, OK, well, even with all of that. And even if they think it's good enough, and by the way, for some things it might be, but for others it may not be, even with what they said. But on top of that, I'm looking at what you did. I'm like, okay, wait a minute, time out. There's just no way they came along and strung together a bunch of gamer GPUs and made all of this happen at the level that they're claiming. I'm just like, wait a minute, I'm calling BS on this. There's just no way that happened. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't seem believable.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so the tough part, too, again, back to what you said at the beginning, is sort of the track record with a bunch of the companies coming out of China. Remember back in 2022, some of their biggest companies in the country, like I want to say it was like China Life Insurance, a few others. There were five major companies in China that pulled off of the New York Stock Exchange. They delisted because they did not want to comply with U.S. accounting regulations. Right, right. They didn't want to open up their books to show people what's going on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Bottom line, most likely because it wouldn't have matched what they're saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
So when I moved back from New York in like 2007 to Baltimore— I went to work for this small broker-dealer, and we got invited to do a bunch of SPACs. Those are single-purpose acquisition companies for anyone unfamiliar. What they do is they raise a bunch of funds, then they go buy another company. It's basically an IPO with a shell company, and then they buy another company. We got invited to do a bunch, but what these guys were doing was they intended to buy these Chinese companies that were out there. We were a fledgling broker-dealer. We wanted to make money, but We started turning down these deals, and I asked the sales guys and the head of the firm, I'm like, well, just out of curiosity, why are we turning these things down? And they said, well, we looked at the books of these companies they want to buy, and we don't really have a lot of faith in what they're telling us. And so sure enough, you know, within no time, a bunch of these SPACs went under because their books were shady. Hmm. And they were not straight up. And so then I did some more research, too. And there's a Columbia Law School review blog that looked at 17,037 SPACs between 2003 and 2022. And what they found was the ones that performed really badly and didn't do well at all were all SPACs that bought Chinese companies. Hmm. So there is a – unfortunately, like, again, so I know all these things and remember them and – You know, I remember the bad moments, too, with the good moments, unfortunately. But I saw this, and it immediately sets my radar off, knowing that kind of stuff. Oh, okay, so there's a question.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, you're a smart guy. You did the same thing that I did and really probably were thinking the exact same. I should have emailed you and texted you because you're probably thinking the same exact thing I was at that exact same time. Why? I mean, we're just two schmucks, Scott. I mean, you're a lot smarter than I am. But at the end of the day, in comparison to a lot of these big hedge fund managers and folks on Wall Street and so on, we're just a couple of schmucks when it's all said and done. But if we could figure some of these things out, why couldn't all of them? Because they didn't. They sold off all kinds of stuff. Nvidia went way down. Other types of stocks revolving around AI went down. I'm thinking to myself, are you guys just that dumb?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think part of that, too, some of these people, some of this can be programs just reacting to headlines and stuff, which is ridiculous. But the other part is sometimes if this catches people off guard... The first question, the immediate response on Monday was, oh my God, what does this mean for all these models? Does it mean these tech companies are overpaying? Again, you start to sit through, you're like, well, wait a second, this company's been out there for years. Everybody in Silicon Valley knows about it. Clearly, these guys that are investing in big AI companies, models and programs or just an AI in general know about it, yet they're choosing not to invest in that company and the products they're rolling out. And there's a reason why. So there are probably some fund managers that aren't that deep in this, that are invested in like an NVIDIA, Microsoft, more importantly, NVIDIA and Broadcom, and they're worried. So what they do is they shoot first by selling stock and ask questions later. So that way, if the situation is worse, and it winds up being, they have cash to reinvest. Instead of just sitting on it and watching it go down and doing nothing, they'll be like, well, now the really bad news has come out and I'm screwed. So does that make sense?
SPEAKER 16 :
It does, and I think the other thing, and I'm pretty sure of this one, and it's one of the criticisms I've got of a lot of folks that are in Washington making laws and so on, the majority of people, including the traders and folks that you're talking about, And I'm not boasting here, Scott, but have far less understanding of how technology, computers, hardware, all of that works than I do. And yet these are the guys making decisions that literally affect the future of a lot of Americans day to day. And I just shake my head at that. I'm thinking to myself, you guys really aren't this dumb when it comes to technology. But, Scott, unfortunately, they keep proving over and over again to me that they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, this is true. I like to listen to guys. There's this great podcast that I like to listen to, BG2, Boy George 2. It's Brad Gerstner and Bill Gurley. They're two big venture capitalists, two private equity funds. Brad Gerstner started with $3 million in 2008. His fund now manages $17 billion. And those guys, I guarantee you, they loved seeing this pullback and started buying everything.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because they know it's going to come back.
SPEAKER 06 :
And they know this is just part of the process. We're going to spend a lot of money up front to build the primary infrastructure that gets this going, which is what we've seen. But as this technology improves and gets better, the costs are just going to keep going to the floor. It's sort of like I'm sure the first car that was built cost a boatload just going through everything and getting the conveyor belts operating the right way and knowing what to put on which and how to produce it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Always, Scott. I mean, I guarantee you when you look back at even the Model T with Henry Ford, what he produced first versus last, huge difference in cost.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so I think what we're going to see down the road is, you know, as things like this, you know, maybe DeepSeat pushes more people in the U.S. that are working on AI to do it better, faster.
SPEAKER 16 :
Could be, and I appreciate what Donald Trump said, you know, along those lines, because, yes, we have to be better, faster, stronger than everybody else, and if there's ways we can do that. Although, Scott, one of the first things I was thinking of when I read all these things that supposedly – you know, Chinese company had done, I'm thinking, okay, I get where you're saying, and I get that you've cut some corners literally in how you're making the language part of it work and how they're doing their computations and what have you. And I'm like, okay, and there's probably some things that that's probably fine with, although there's probably other things that we need to get AI involved into where, no, that computation needs to be much harder, much longer, much deeper. And at the end of the day, what you're building in China won't do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Yeah, I think that's right. And again, I think to what you're saying early on, a lot of this could have used open source stuff that companies like ChatGPT or what is it?
SPEAKER 16 :
All the open source stuff, basically.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, OpenAI. These guys already spent the money and built it, and then these guys were grabbing it. Correct. And so, yeah, if you're doing that and you're not using all those costs, sure, it's going to be cheaper.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you're building off of what somebody else already built.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, that's exactly right. So my guess would be, yeah, we saw a panic that we probably shouldn't have, and what we're ultimately going to see is this is going to push the conversation. It's a wake-up call for a bunch of people, but we're going to wind up seeing this technology get better and get cheaper, and that's going to push innovation, and it's going to create margin.
SPEAKER 16 :
Agreed. Agreed. Can't argue that. All right. How do folks find you, Scott?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, sure. Go to LinkedIn, Twitter, or Substack. C. Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. In closing, looking to the future, and I know no one has a crystal ball, but what are things folks should be looking at if they're thinking, yeah, I should probably invest in X? What would that be?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, NVIDIA, it was an incredible buying opportunity the other day. Look at SMH, which is a semiconductor holders index, and owns a basket of semiconductors. This conversation is only going to keep growing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Agreed. Scott, appreciate you very much. Talk next week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks so much for having me.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, a couple of minutes left of today's program is all, and Mexico, I guess, has decided also to go ahead and let some of their folks that should be there in the first place come back. A thousand or so, that number will continue to increase. And this is a question you have to ask yourself when it comes to Mexico and their leadership. Of all countries... Mexico should be behind what Donald Trump wants to do and the closing of the border, because all the open border has done under Joe Biden and his regime is make the cartel stronger. It has literally poured, and I'm not exaggerating, billions upon billions of dollars into the cartels in Mexico. And you would think the Mexican government, the head of, Would love nothing more than to have that money now not flowing to the cartels, making them that much richer and more powerful and so on. So you got to ask the question, is that really what Mexico wants or are they so corrupt that And so overrun by the cartels that they just don't care. In fact, they're on the side of the cartel and they're mad because there's now no open borders and that money itself won't be flowing in. I know they've taken these particular individuals back. But because they really don't have much choice at the end of the day, given what Donald Trump has said he will do if they don't. So, again, you got to ask yourself the question, what's really going on with leadership in Mexico? And are they really against all of the crime and things that happen inside the cartels? Or are they just so overrun by them that they don't have any choice at the end of the day but to be on their side? And that's probably a topic for another day, and I'll maybe get some experts on that can talk more about that that know more about it than I. Have a great night, though, folks. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
