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Join hosts Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush as they delve into the current geopolitical tensions between Israel and Iran, exploring how these events are perceived through a biblical lens. The panelists discuss the wider implications of potential U.S. involvement, wrestling with the moral and strategic facets of such a scenario. Gain insights into the complexities of foreign policy decision-making, as the hosts debate the balance of diplomatic versus military approaches.
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And another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush, Denver, Colorado, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, and Neil Boron from Buffalo, New York. Guys, good morning. No secret, we record this on Wednesday mornings. We said that numerous times, so good morning.
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Good morning. Good morning, John.
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And nothing to talk about today, by the way, guys. Nothing at all going on in the world. We have nothing going on here in the U.S. There's just nothing to talk about today.
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Yeah, it's a pretty boring day.
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If only.
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How'd you guys sleep? I got myself a new pair of slippers.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, good, good. We can talk about that for an hour. Good to know, good to know. I don't know about you guys, but my head's spinning regarding national news stories, international, et cetera, added all together. I don't even know. I have no idea how to cover stuff on my regular program, let alone here in a one-hour podcast.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Neil, and let's start with you. There's a lot going on, of course, the war between, you know, Israel and Iran. And, you know, and I said this yesterday in my program, kind of like you, Neil, there's so much going on that, you know, I've got my own thoughts on things and we'll discuss some of those today with you too. But the reality is before anybody becomes, this is one thing I caution folks on, on both sides of the aisle, especially our side, before anybody becomes too judgmental on anything, should we be more involved? Should we be less involved? we don't know everything going on behind the scenes we are not in the situation room we are not hearing all of the facts that are coming in you know to the situation room with donald trump and all the advisors to know exactly what the next move should or shouldn't be personally do i feel like we need to be more involved or less involved i frankly don't want us more involved because i don't know what those repercussions are like but once again neil i will say i don't have all the facts in front of me so i really can't even say that at this point because i don't know
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's probably a good way to start the conversation with a little bit of humility on all of our parts, because we can only comment on what we've been told or what we're seeing in the media. And all of us, I can say across the board, are not fans of the legacy media. So it's what we're able to garner from news reports, podcasts, private conversations with people in the know, whatever. But it's a very uncertain time. And Trying to make legitimate comments about things that we don't fully know about is always a little bit tenuous, but I think it's important that we also look at history, we look at behaviors in the past, we look at tendencies, those kind of things, to be able to say, look, if everything plays out the way that it has in the past, this is what we think is going to happen, and yet we always do it with a measure of humility, hopefully, Lord willing. The only person who's really, really in the know is Bob Duco because, you know, he's got J.D. Vance and the Joint Chiefs calling him on a regular basis, saying, Bob, what is going on here? But, you know, other than that, we'll talk about the stuff today, try to put the biblical perspective on it, not that all of us encompass all truth, but we want to point to Scripture, especially as it deals with Israel. You know, we're going to talk about Israel and Iran today. But, John, I appreciate you bringing that up because I just think that whenever we talk about these kind of issues— our listeners should know that we're in this thing with you. We're all learning what's going on around us and trying to respond accordingly as opposed to, Hey, we got all the answers and you should just listen to everything we have to say.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Well, I appreciate that. And Bob, you know, everything Neil just said, Hey, appreciate him. Saying that, and again, Bob, unless you've got some insight, I don't have. I mean, again, I'm not in the situation room. I don't know what's going on. I mean, I personally would prefer that we be less involved versus more involved backing up Israel. Absolutely, we need to do that. But am I one that says we need to go drop the ultimate bunker buster on Iran? I have mixed emotions about that. Yeah.
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Hold on a second. Hold on, J.D. Okay. The guy keeps bugging me. Do you have other people to get advice from?
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Anyway.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, look. Everything you guys are saying about the qualifiers of our opinions is absolutely true. Okay. So – Do I have opinions on Iran and what I think we should be doing? Yeah, but it's a qualified opinion only based on the limited information that we have. So any opinion that I have is absolutely subject to change if there's information that I learn different. So based on the current information at hand, philosophically, John, I'm with you that less is better, less involvement is better. And it's certainly Trump's philosophy to not get entangled in any kind of war if we can avoid it. But if this is in fact a case where the Fordow nuclear facility, which is buried 260 feet down in a mountain in Iran and cannot be reached by Israeli missiles but can be reached by our bunker-busting missiles, if in fact they are continuing to spin their centrifuges and enrich uranium to nuclear bomb capacity levels – Then we have to ask ourselves, what happens if we do let Iran get a nuclear weapon? Because we can't look at Iran the same way that we look at other countries, right? Because North Korea, Pakistan, China, India, Russia, okay, these nuclear countries are they at least don't want mutually assured destruction. They at least want to live. But in Iran, these mullahs, they practice Shia Islam where they're waiting for this 12th Imam, the Mahdi, to return. And one of the things that would usher his return is Armageddon, if you will. So they actually have a religious zeal to bring about Armageddon. They can't go full scale against Israel without nuclear weapons because they know that Israel's friends like us can turn them into a smoking crater. But if they do get nuclear weapons, I think there is a very real possibility that they say, let's usher in the 12th Imam Mahdi now and go ahead and launch some nuclear weapons at Israel. And then if that happens, it theoretically could turn into a nuclear World War III. So with that said... I tend to lean toward thinking that we ought to go ahead and take out their Fordow facility and do whatever is necessary and give whatever backup is necessary to stop them from being able to develop a nuclear weapon. So that's how I tend to look at it.
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Yeah, and on top of it, does anybody actually believe that if there's, you know, quote, cooperating with sanctions that they're actually not still working towards having nuclear capability? These are people that want to wipe Israel off the map. That's the little Satan. And the U.S., that's the great Satan. And, like, the effort here is to destroy the enemies of Islam in their minds. And, Bob, you described it so well, you know, the religious implications of what's behind the thinking in Iran. And it's a really tenuous and dangerous situation. But I don't believe for a minute that they're like, oh, you know what? We're cooperating with sanctions. Baloney. There's so much clandestine, covert stuff going on that every effort is being made in Iran to make sure they have full nuclear capability. And we need to be aware of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, you're absolutely right. We've got to remember, too, that joke of a nuclear deal that the Obama administration set up with Iran. Remember, that deal specifically said that Iran was allowed to openly create a nuclear weapon in 10 to 15 years. Okay, well, guess what? We're there. And so that was – but it also – It also said that they were allowed – you know, we had to give weapons inspectors. Well, okay. But Iran said we don't want U.S. inspectors and we want a 30-day advance notice and we want to be able to extend it to 60 days beyond the 30. So they really negotiated a way to get 90 days to clean up everything in the meantime. And they were allowed to keep on enriching uranium and spinning their centrifuges. And Fordow was allowed to keep operating. That was a joke of a deal. And I think that's right. Trump was right to tear it up. And I think Trump is right to – to say somehow, some way, we actually cannot let them have a nuclear weapon. And John, I know we got a lot more to talk about regarding this, but I do want to say this podcast is sponsored, folks. We appreciate you folks supporting this podcast. One of our sponsors is Preborn. And you know what Preborn does? They save babies' lives every day. They show ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms in pro-life centers across the country. But you know what? It takes money to do this. And that's where you folks come in. If you've given a pre-born already, thank you. God bless you. Would you consider giving again? Save some more babies' lives. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby's life when that mom sees a picture of her baby. How many babies' lives will you save? take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, that's your forever legacy of the amount of abortions you're stopping. And if you can buy an ultrasound machine, please do it. They're 15 grand a piece, nice tax write-off for you, but you're stopping thousands of abortions year after year. So here's how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on pre-born. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on pre-born. 100% of what you give goes to fund ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. It's all covered by private donors. You can also give over the phone at 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Call now. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And thanks for supporting Preborn. And thanks for supporting SunPower LED. Neil?
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Appreciate you guys talking about them. Great sponsors. And we need them to help us do what we do here to provide a lot of you with information that you may not get any other place. And again, we're trying to even as we talk about the war between Israel and Iran, really trying to bring. different, how should I say this, go back to you, Bob, different ideas on how you should think through this. And right now, yes, currently, Representative Massey, he announced Monday evening he plans to introduce a bipartisan war powers resolution. In other words, he doesn't want us to be involved in the Israel-Iran war at all. I disagree with that, by the way. I think that's a bad move. I think that sends the wrong message. That's not, in my opinion, Bob, something that that I would be for at all. And while I respect some of our representatives, there's times with Robert Mass or Thomas Massey, I should say, where I just shake my head at the guy and say, what in the world are you doing? Because at the end of the day, I mean, I know where he's going with this. And there's a lot of, you know, quote unquote, libertarians and people that think along those lines. Bob, that don't want us involved in this any way, shape, or form. But you said earlier so brilliantly that it may come to the point where we have no choice.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know. Well, look, we got to think of this like chess. I mean, anybody who knows how to play chess knows you never play one move at a time. You play 10 moves at a time. You anticipate what's going to happen next and what are the next steps. Well, we got to play this out with Iran. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, Are they just going to sit on that and not utilize it against Israel? I don't believe that's the case. Iran having a nuclear weapon is not the same thing as any other country having a nuclear weapon. They are completely different because of the religious zeal of the Ayatollah and the Mullahs there. So if they take a nuclear weapon and let's say they manage to ship it to Hamas or Hezbollah because they probably wouldn't shoot it directly from Iran. Because the Golden Dome would have a good chance of shooting it down. However, all they got to do is sneak it to Hamas and Hezbollah somehow, some way, and then have them set off a nuclear weapon right inside of Israel.
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They could also go to container ships with delivery systems that could go to really pretty much anywhere in the world, including the United States of America. Including the U.S., that's right. For all of you clowns out there that don't think this stuff can happen, trust me, it can.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then what happens when a nuclear weapon goes off, okay, and Iran detonated it? It's now a whole new world. That's right. It's now a whole new move. And we have no choice at that point but to completely decimate Iran. I don't think Donald Trump would counter with nuclear weapons. But the bottom line, we now have a nuclear war that's been established. And I think everybody's going to sit around and go – We had a chance to stop them militarily from going nuclear. We had a chance to take out their Fordow facility and we didn't because we wanted to stay out of it. No, I don't want to look back and say we had a chance to stop them from going nuclear and we passed it up.
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Agree. And Neil, one of the things that I do think they're going through in the situation room right now, believe me, this one I can almost guarantee you, I'm not a betting man, but I would bet on this one, that they are literally looking at every single alternative along the lines of what Bob is talking about. How do we stop these guys from doing what they're doing? How do we How do we, you know, how do we crush this facility that they're making, you know, spinning in? I should say that's probably the best way for me to say that. You know, is it something that the Mossad could go in and take care of on their own? Do they need our help to make this happen? I firmly believe that they probably do. Is there a slight chance that the Mossad could go in and actually do something? Maybe, Neil, but at the end of the day... I don't know. And again, these are things that I guarantee are being talked about right now. They're looking at every single option because I firmly believe this goes against what a lot of the anti-Trump folks think. He is not a warmonger. He has proven over and over and over again, Neil, that he wants us out of these situations, not in them. He is probably going to be more, I think I'm safe to say this, Neil, he will be more careful in getting us into some sort of a conflict along these lines than probably any other president past or possibly even in the future, Neil, just because he doesn't want us in one if we can avoid it.
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I agree. And I don't know if what I'm about to say is controversial, but I'm quoting the Wall Street Journal editorial from a day or two ago and said, Iran's leaders are hoping Mr. Trump will come to their rescue with more delaying diplomacy. which proves literally that Donald Trump is not a warmonger, that he is looking for other options, sanctions or whatever, diplomacy to help resolve all of this. But this editorial I'm referring to talked about Joe Biden's presidency and the decline that began when he abandoned Afghanistan to the Taliban and how that led to conflicts in Ukraine and in Gaza, et cetera, and that Donald Trump now has an opportunity to reverse all of that and leave a legacy that says hey this is not what we're going to be about as mr trump has said many times it says in this article iran iran can end the israeli assault by agreeing to roll up its nuclear program dismantle its enrichment capacity under international supervision destroy its centrifuges and allow for unhindered future inspections iran's refusal to do so even as it risks losing much of its non-nuclear military power and top commanders shows that the regime wants a nuclear weapon more than it wants peace. And that plays into what Bob was talking about earlier. This is not your average country. These guys are all about dominance and obliteration. They want to obliterate Israel and the United States of America. They're making no bones about it. This isn't like, hey, we want a nuclear weapon so that we will have deterrence against others who might try to you know, come against us. No, it's we're going to destroy Israel and the United States of America when we get a nuclear weapon. And that's why we have to act now.
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And they don't mind dying in the process. These are suicide bombers.
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Exactly right.
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Islamic jihadists that don't mind blowing themselves up also while blowing up the U.S. and Israel.
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Okay, so Bob, walk us through. Let's say they can't figure out a way for the Mossad to take out Fordow and get that particular problem, which is the biggest problem in front of them right now. That is the elephant in the room that they're trying to figure out how to deal with, in my opinion. That's literally what they're looking at and trying to determine. let's just say that, you know, the next day or two could even happen today. We dump our, you know, our drop, I should say, our 30,000 pound, you know, bunker buster, a couple of those that are, you know, by the way, we're the only country in the world that has that ability to actually make that happen. And no, Donald Trump has even said for all of you listening, no, we just don't loan those things to other countries. We're not going to be free from being involved by just saying, okay, we'll teach your pilots how to fly the B-52 and you guys can go drop this. No, Bob, you and I, I've heard people say that even, Bob, and it's like, That is the most unintelligent thing anybody could ever say, because reality is it's not going to happen. We're not going to give our secrets up to anyone, including Israel, by allowing it to happen. So if that were to happen, we have to be the ones, our pilots, our bombs, our bombers have to be the ones initiating that. So let's say that that actually happens. What's the fallout, Bob?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, obviously, the big concern, I think, for Trump and for the U.S. is how the moderate Middle Eastern nations will respond to this. Because Saudi Arabia is kind of a, quote, unquote, our friend, certainly more friendly with us than Iran. But they do still share the Islamic thing. And so I
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but they're kind of enemies on that end of things as well, if you really want to get down to it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, and they are, and they are. China and Russia would hate this.
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China loses, by the way, really quick for everybody listening, China in the conflict going on right now loses more than any other nation because they're buying 90% of Iran's oil.
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That's right. And by the way, can I tell you something? Vladimir Putin loses large too because Iran is a huge military customer for Russia. That's right. And so right now, Iran is not buying all the products from Russia that they would like to buy too. So Russia and China are both really hurt by this. Now, you know, I think that the fallout ends up being that you get maybe the worst case scenario, you get maybe some UN resolution condemning the United States, or you get some Middle Eastern nations that say, we're not happy with this. You have really, really nasty tweets from Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. But I don't think anybody's going to take us to war for this. I don't think anybody's going to stick their own country's neck out on behalf of Iran. Even German's chancellor said, you know what? Israel really is doing the dirty work for all of us right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, so I believe in really quick if people don't want to if people don't want to believe that, Bob, this is another topic. We could even do probably an entire podcast on this. But if what you if what you and I and Neil are saying right now weren't true, why is it that there's no other Arab nations taking in Palestinian Hamas refugees?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. Proving your point. That is a very fair point. So, no, I think it would be – I think there would be some tension. There would be some saber rattling. But at the end of the day, I think when the dust settles, I think most people around the world are going to go, you know what? The world's a safer place than it was before because a four-dough plant was taken out.
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Yeah, and my advice to people that would be following some of this, if in fact this were to happen, you're going to see some countries like Saudi Arabia condemn – that action and this that and the other and by the way publicly they don't have a choice they have to do those things bob and neil because at the end of the day if they don't you know their fellow countrymen are going to be upset with them so they have they have no choice and by the way they would even tell donald trump that on the front saying hey by the way we're going to make this announcement it's not really the way we look at things but you know we got to do this just to save face but at the end of the day thanks you just took care of our our evil cousin that we didn't want around anyway so at the end of the day we're all better off for it neil what are your thoughts along those lines
SPEAKER 04 :
evil cousin. I'm thinking about cousin Eddie and movie vacation. I'm sorry. Um, This article in the Wall Street Journal, and again, this is the Wall Street Journal. This isn't like a Republican rag. This is not a PR machine for Donald Trump. But it said, the world takes a measure of every new president. In other words, the world is evaluating every new U.S. president. Even one like Mr. Trump, who served before. He campaigned for re-election as a peacemaker. And the U.S. adversaries are looking to see what that means for how Trump will respond tomorrow. to pressure and strategic threats, if the U.S. won't help one of its strongest and most loyal allies, being Israel, won't help them finish the job of eliminating Iran's nuclear threat in uncontested airspace, the message to China will be that there is no chance the U.S. will defend Taiwan, and everyone will see it, including the Kremlin.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you know what? That's such an important point, too, because Trump, everybody knows Trump is going to be the strongest supporter of Israel, of any president there is. And if Trump won't even rise to that occasion, then you're right. It does send a message to China that we're kind of a paper tiger. There's only so far we'll go.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's interesting because I almost got the feeling reading this op-ed, this was written by the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal, that they were almost like not baiting per se, but persuading Trump to say, get involved here. Like, we need you to do something because the world is watching. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
On the flip side too, just as a side note to all the people that are out there that think we spend far too much money on our own military and all of that. And yes, we have a huge budget. It's almost a trillion dollars a year that we spend on our military. But when you look at, and there's a lot of these stats rolling around right now because of everything that's happening over in Israel. But really quick, Bob, if you just look at the differences in what we have as a country in relation to overall firepower, the size of our of our Air Force, the size of our Army. Our Navy, by the way, is the fourth largest Air Force in the world. And that's our Navy. I mean, you start looking at these things, Bob, and we dwarf everybody else out there. And it makes me wonder at times, Other countries that threaten us. Why? Why would you do that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I know because they don't think that we really have the resolve to, you know, we carry a big stick, but they don't think that we'll use it. And they need to know that we will, in fact, use it. Look, Trump has the same peace through strength philosophy that Ronald Reagan had. Trump's desire is to not get into a military conflict with someone. And the best way to not get into a military conflict is to intimidate and scare the daylights out of them and make them afraid to get into that conflict with us.
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Thank you, Neil. And what I would suggest, some of you out there listening are probably thinking, well, okay, there's not much we can do. I guess we just sit back and watch and we'll see how things unfold. And guys, I know you would agree with me on this. No, there is a lot we can actually do. The cabinet, the advisors, Donald Trump himself, even those leaders in Israel, we can pray for them, pray for wisdom that they would make the right decisions at the end of the day. These will have worldwide implications. People will die, of course. That's what happens in war they're dying as we speak and we are a lover of people when it's all said and done guys it's why we you know support pre-born and some of the other things that we do across the crawford network so at the end of the day folks yes there are things you can do pray for them pray for their you know their their guidance for their wherewithal for the long nights where they're spending an entire night in the situation room pray for strength for them and at the end of the day you know what we'll see how it all turns out but that's what you guys as listeners and christians can do. That is the first half of the National Crawford Roundtable.
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, second half, National Crawford Roundtable. Welcome. I'm your host, John Rush. We've got Neil Borum with us today, of course, and Bob Duco out of Detroit, Michigan. Guys, we spent the first half, and if you guys are just, you know, maybe listening to the second half or depending upon how you, you know, break up the podcast itself. We talked in the first half about the war between Israel and Iran and don't have all of the answers. We'll have to just see how things work out there. But one thing that made the news over the weekend. In fact, this was sort of going on while I was on air on Saturday. I didn't have all the details, which made it really difficult. We found out more on Sunday than, of course, on Monday. And that was the Minnesota killer. I hate mentioning killers' names, so I won't. But the Minnesota killer that literally was stalking politicians, killed two of them. I think he had a list. Bob, I'll start with you. He had a list of about... 40 names. And this is, of course, much closer to you than it is me, given that you're right next door in a state next door. But I mean, what possesses somebody to do what this guy did? And by the way, I will say first off as well, there's those out there that would love to put this guy on the conservative side and paint him into our circle, into our corner. I'm not ever claiming this guy, Bob, or anybody like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, absolutely not. First of all, I do – and I said this on my show. I would caution conservatives in social media and even conservatives in the media not to automatically play the game of doing everything possible to put him in the liberal camp either because sometimes –
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with that.
SPEAKER 05 :
People have said, well, he had these no-kings flyers in his car, and he was appointed to two different boards in the state by Democrat governors. And so, therefore, we don't know if he's – Governors traditionally appoint hundreds and hundreds of Republicans and Democrats to those boards. So that's not an indication that he's in lockstep with the liberals. And it looks like the no kings thing was kind of a trolling kind of thing to do because the fact is he was a registered Republican. Everybody that knows him says that he was a Trump supporter. He did vote for Donald Trump. And he was a part-time pastor who went over to the Congo doing missionary work. So we can't sweep that under the rug. It does appear that this guy politically was on the conservative side. Something happened to cause him to snap. I don't know what that is. And people need to be praying for certainly the family relationship. of the former House leader in Minnesota and her husband who died, and certainly the state senator and his wife who were shot and thankfully survived, okay? This is a horrible tragedy. It's wrong. It's evil. And we need to be consistent. What I said on my show was that if this had been some liberal Democrat who gunned down some Republicans, I'd say that guy needs a death penalty. Well, guess what? I said exactly the same thing. This guy needs a death penalty. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yet look at the March for Life in Washington, D.C. every January when you have tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of conservatives there that are Christians. You don't see any police in riot gear because it's not necessary. So this was an anomaly. It was a freakish thing. But we need to be consistent. We need to pray for the victims involved.
SPEAKER 03 :
Neil, and this, I don't know how to say this in a nice way, and I'm going to be very careful in my words and how I say this, but when I saw this particular gentleman and I saw some of his background and I saw some of what he did, and I'm sorry, I have to say this, and I haven't said this on my own program, so this will be the first time that I say this here. Neil, growing up the way I did in a very legalistic, you know, that church setting and so on, I will tell you that I have run into guys like this in the past in my upbringing. And I always had in the back of my mind, this guy is out there. He is an absolute weirdo. Yes, I get it. He's in, you know, the church and he claims to be doing all these things for the Lord and this, that and the other. But there's just somewhere in there a screw loose. And I'm sorry, Neil, when I look at this guy and I look at his eyes, I think the same thing all over again.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And I'm sorry to say that. Well, and you're just a human being speaking what's on your heart. That's what we're supposed to do here on the roundtable is just talk about what we feel. And, you know, I don't know why I'm going to say this, but when I was a student at Boston University, I took a communication 101 course and I was just getting into the School of Communications my junior year, finally had the grades to try to get into that school. And they made me take this course which in many ways was um a statistics course of all things and and i learned about the bell curve and you know a bell curve if you've ever seen it analytically has the outline extremes you know to the left and to the right you've got positive and negative extremes whenever there's a bell curve and the the middle is where the median is or whatever and and You know, on both sides of the equation, you're going to get crazy people that do crazy things. I don't have any idea what would motivate someone to do this. But, you know, he's been referred to in some ways as a pro-life evangelical. Bob, you mentioned he was a pastor, or maybe he was, you know, had some kind of license.
SPEAKER 05 :
He was a missionary working in the Congo and preaching in churches.
SPEAKER 04 :
At his own ministry, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And had a seminary degree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so then we automatically, oh, well, he was a man of the cloth, right? Okay. Well, who knows? But the point is mental illness is real. I think that somewhere along the line, mental illness played into this. I remember many years ago in my own neighborhood, I was walking with a local cop who became a friend, ultimately accepted Christ. I had the joy of baptizing him, but I would walk, you know, four or five miles a day with him and just talk. And he was a wonderful brother in Christ. Well, he ended up being somebody that was intimately involved in going after James Copp who shot an abortionist in Buffalo. James Kopp was supposedly pro-life, and he snuck into our city, came from out of town, set himself outside the house, and then assassinated this abortionist by shooting him through the window of his back of his home. And my buddy that I was walking with was involved in that investigation. I'm sorry, but you're not pro-life if you kill someone. I don't care how pro-life you call yourself, you're not pro-life. And we have to stand up against this. So whatever the ideology, like if... If a liberal killed a liberal, should we be happy that one less liberal exists? No. I mean, we're all created in the image of God. Jesus died for each and every one of us, and I think we need to condemn it no matter where we see that kind of violence. Absolutely unacceptable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Neil, talk to us about SunPowerLED while we're here, and then we can dovetail what you just said with Preborn as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
And Bob, when it comes to the things Neil was talking about earlier in regards to respect for life, yeah, pre-born dovetails right into that.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Really quick before we continue on, I guess there was a tweet that just went out really quick, guys, in regards to our last half-hour topic in regards to Iran and Israel, where a reporter asked Donald Trump, what do you say to the Supreme Leader of Iran after he said they will not surrender? Trump said, I say, good luck. In other words, yeah, he's not going to mess around, let's just say that. But back to this whole situation in Iran. Minnesota. And again, guys, I've read very little on this. These sorts of things just, I don't know, I guess they just bother me to the core to know that there's people out there that would even think the way this guy thought. I mean, this guy had a literally a Bob, a laundry list, if you would, of people that he was going to go after. Why he didn't continue on, you never know. We may never know. I'm with you, though. This guy needs to be punished and gets, you know, he should have the death penalty just like anybody else that would do what this particular person did. At the end of the day, to Neil's point, what causes this? Honestly, Bob, I don't know. Something cracked with this guy, although I will say this. When did it crack? Because you don't do these things on a whim. This guy had this thing all planned out, everything from the uniform to the car to putting lights on the car to on and on we go. The only thing that's weird about this that I do want to throw out there that I just think is odd that no one, by the way, on either side of the aisle is talking about. This guy's supposedly a great Christian, evangelical, has a ministry, family man. Then why is he living in a weirdo apartment with some fat guy next door? Sorry to say it that way, but why?
SPEAKER 05 :
John, I was asking the same question. There's more to the story that... Isn't something is it just make something doesn't add up, Bob? He's got five kids. He's got a wife. He's got whatever. Why in the world is he paying rent to spend some of his nights in some rundown house with some fat guy? And it's not just him. There's other people that were part time roommates as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
What are you doing over there? I mean, no offense, Bob. And I've I've had different businesses and different things to where, you know, I had at one point in time, two different locations. They were 60 miles apart. It was an hour drive each way. I never once spent the night in the city that was an hour away. I got up earlier in the morning and I drove and I drove further home at night. And I did that for six months straight to get this new location up and running back in about 2000. And the reality is I never once spent a night in that other city nor spent a night in the store for that matter. I came home to my family every single night because that's what you do as a dad. None of this makes sense, Bob.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know. There's something weird that's woven into the DNA of the story that I just don't know what it is. But what I do know is, though, that we must condemn what he did, that it's wrong, and that we don't sweep it under the rug. We don't try to make excuses for it. But we also, at the same time, don't allow people to say, well, see, it's right-wing rhetoric, left-wing rhetoric. It's all 50-50. It's not 50-50. When something like this happens, it's a weird, freakish anomaly that goes against the grain of what we're used to seeing. When violence happens on the left, it's just another day in America. I mean, I hate to say it. That's right. It's not 100 percent to zero percent. It doesn't justify or minimize the violence that happens on the right. What I'm saying is I'm not going to let somebody try to paint the picture as 50-50. I won't lie and say it's 100-0. But what I will say is typically left-wing rhetoric produces way more violence in America than this kind of stuff that we saw here, as evil and wrong as it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Neil, really quick, I mean, going back to the whole just some of this stuff doesn't add up. Again, I'm with Bob. I'm not trying to make excuses. This guy could be a solid church-going, hardcore conservative, although I find that hard to believe because if you were, you wouldn't be doing what he did. And I agree with everything Bob just said. On the same token, I do want to bring up these questions as to what's this guy doing? None of it adds up. I want more information. Not that I'm going to give this guy – you know, any kind of a pass, any way, shape, or form. I'm not. He needs to be punished to the full extent of the law no matter what, Neil. But at the end of the day, I want to know more because it just doesn't add up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the Word of God tells us that the heart of man is deceitful above all else. It's desperately wicked. Who can know it? And I think, honestly, in the body of Christ, there is a system by which we're almost encouraged to wear a mask. How many times have you gone to church on Sunday? By the way, you're fighting with your wife on the way to church. One of the kids. Yeah, yeah. And you walk in the door and somebody's like, hey, how are you? Oh, good, good. Praise God. How are you? I'm good. Are you good? Yeah, we're good. OK, so like we're famous for wearing masks.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, I mean, except during COVID, except during a good one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sorry, my bad. My bad. Go ahead. I mean, just recently here in the last week or two, Michael Tate discovered, you know, he stepped down as lead singer of Newsboys, Newsboys, an institution in Christian music, but said, I've been living a double life for years and I need help. And praise God, he's getting help, like get him some help. But it was shocking. People were shocked. Wait a minute. The lead singer of Newsboys is you know, addicted to substances and involved in things he shouldn't have been doing. Okay, right. He was living a double life and he needs to repent. But in some subtle ways, we all do that. So just the fact that this guy's like a pastor, he's quote, an evangelical, quote, pro-life, whatever. I mean, he sees these labels, but is he really who we think he is? And does he even know his own heart? God knows his heart. And I think sometimes the veil gets lifted and things are revealed. And no matter what, I believe mental illness was somewhere involved in this story. But all the reasons that you said, John, you were uncomfortable, and Bob, you had questions too. What in the world? It doesn't make sense. And if our intuition, and I believe sometimes it's the discernment of the Holy Spirit directly, says something's not right with this, then we need to pay attention because something isn't right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and again, and Neil, by the way, thank you. I appreciate all that you said. And yes, definitely has to be a mental illness. You don't take somebody, in my opinion, you don't take somebody else's life without having some sort of a screw loose in the first place. That's my whole theory on things. But yeah, Bob, I mean, it's just, again, the... What this guy was doing, let's just say this for all of you that are on the left that would accuse the whole right of being this way. Number one, no, the whole right and all of conservatives and Christians aren't like this guy. We don't think that way. We don't have any groupthink along those lines. The reality is we will condemn this all day long like the three of us are right now, Bob. But again, you do have to wonder and you do want to get to the bottom of, you know, where was this guy? What was going on in his head? Was he really who he's like? Neil said, was he really who he said he was or was he somebody completely different?
SPEAKER 05 :
And ultimately, only God knows that, and only God really knows his heart. I'm open to the possibility that this guy was a poser and just never really accepted Jesus Christ and was just a guy who was basically playing Christian but really lived in the world. Okay. I'm also open to the possibility that he really accepted Jesus Christ, but he had mental illness. And you know what? Christians can break bones. Christians can get injuries. Christians can also have neurotransmitters in their brain misfiring and have mental illnesses too. I just don't know. Christians can let themselves be filled with hate. Solomon went on to have all the wives that he had as well. Look what David did. A man after God's own heart who had Bathsheba's husband killed so he could take her. I'm open to the possibility that he was really a Christian who just snapped, backslid, went off the rails. That could be the case, too. I don't know his heart. I can't know his heart. God knows his heart. But we need to be certainly praying for the families of those that were injured and killed because it's a horrific tragedy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And I'm always one too. And this is something that I wish our side actually did a better job of, or that, you know, we in the news world did a little bit better job of is, you know what, until you have all the facts, let's not jump to too many conclusions on either side of the aisle, because the reality is all sorts of things could continue to come out. Now, the one thing too, and I'm not a conspiracy guy at all. You guys know that, but then you start wondering, okay, Will we ever really know the truth in all of this or will some things be, you know, covered up to make it look one way or the other? And, you know, Bob, I don't have answers to that. Yeah, I mean, I don't either.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's just we got to remember, though, that there's the reason that this stands out so much is because of the shock value of this. This is not the kind of thing that we see. You know, if I told you guys, hey, guess what? Breaking news. Bill Maher said the F word the other day. You wouldn't think anything of it. But if I said Franklin Graham said the F word the other day, suddenly it becomes big news. And so this is contrary to what is normal. And that's the reason why it gets the attention it does in the media. But also from those of us that are in conservative media because we're willing to talk about these things openly and honestly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, absolutely. Okay, let's go really quick to, I know we got a few minutes left here of the podcast. Last weekend's No Kings protest, I think they're planning another one in July. By the way, has to be, in my opinion, Neil, I'll start with you, one of the dumbest names ever because the No Kings protest actually happens on Independence Day. It's called July 4th because that's ultimately what we did. Back in the day was protesting kings. I just to me, the whole thing is just utter nonsense. I'll always you know, I said this on my program. I'll continue to say it. I will defend everybody's right for a peaceful protest. It's their First Amendment right. I get that. I will always defend that no matter how much of a knucklehead move I think it is now on the same token. And I think I'm going to throw this question to you guys because I posed this yesterday on my program. And it's partly why I don't go to protests, by the way. I don't think I've ever been to one. Don't think I ever will go to one, Neil. Because at the end of the day, do they really accomplish anything?
SPEAKER 04 :
Not much. I don't think so. And I think that there was a, you know, there was an attempt to say, look at, look at the thousands who are turning out in so many cities around the country. They have this no Kings protest, which is just an anti-Trump protest. But that's right. But, uh, the funny story about something that happened here in the Buffalo area. Now, I don't know much about what happened in downtown Buffalo over the weekend. There was, you know, significant number of people that gathered, but in a little town called Williamsville, which is actually where I live, um, I live on the border of Williamsville. The heart of Williamsville, the village of Williamsville is real historic. It's kind of upscale. And it's got a pretty conservative base, probably basically a Democrat, you know, enclave. However, there's some, you know, old fashioned, you know, red, white and blue kind of Americans that live in Williamsville. And so there's this protest with a couple hundred people on both sides of Main Street in Williamsville, New York on Saturday. And I heard a story about a guy. I happen to know the guy who I'm not going to name him. But anyway, he pulls up to a red light during the protest, and they've all got the, you know, no king signs, and they're all chanting things. He starts honking his horn, and he's pumping his fist out the window, and they're like, yeah, this is awesome. This is so great. And as soon as it quiets down, he goes, he honks again, and he goes, yes, make America great again. And all of a sudden, it turned, and it was F-bomb central. It was unbelievable. the hatred, the vitriol. But let me just say this. I'm with you on the idea that, hey, if you don't like our government, you have the right to peacefully protest. So, you know, scream all you want, say whatever you want. I think common sense and truth prevail in the end, and people are going to look back at everything that was going on, you know, over the last weekend, but really over the last 10 years. And they're going to say, what really makes sense here? What do we want for our lives in the future? Well, we want to be able to protest. Go ahead. But if no one's really listening to you, then I think you ought to reevaluate where you're coming from because people want to return to common sense. We want to return to true values that represent the vast majority of Americans, not all of us, but the vast majority. And I just think it was a big waste of time for most people, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bob, and, you know, there are a lot of people frustrated. And, you know, in fact, I would say this as well. A lot of people paid to be at these particular protests. That's a proven fact. I'm not just saying that off the cuff. That's a proven fact that a lot of folks were paid to actually be there. The other thing I found ironic, Bob, is the man on the street, interviews, which no, I did not do, but I watched a lot of them where people were literally asking these people, you know, what are you protesting? And to Neil's point, he's dead on the main theme. And about the only thing anybody could say was I hate Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And by the way, if I can just on a, on a side unrelated note, um, You know, we do record this on Wednesday mornings, and there is breaking news this morning that Tennessee's case where they banned transgender treatments on minors, okay? The Supreme Court ruled six to three that Tennessee is allowed to do that. So John Roberts got up on the right side of the bed. The three liberals, no surprise, supporting body mutilation for children. Wow.
SPEAKER 01 :
Anyway. Good stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what? You're right. This is a I hate Donald Trump rally. This is really a bunch of spoiled brats saying we didn't get our way. Our guy isn't in charge and we don't like it and we're so mad. But this is a problem with Democrats and liberals in general. They can't win a debate, an honest debate on the facts themselves. They have no choice but to make up anything. extra stuff about their opponent. And so therefore they look at Donald Trump and they say, well, he's trying to be a king. Okay. Really? In what way? I would encourage people listening. If you have Democrat voting friends, family, coworkers, or whatever that doesn't like Donald Trump, just ask them a few questions. Can you give me an example of something he's done that is king-like? Because he's been trying to work through Congress to get his bill. He's trying to get... It goes through Congress when he has to go through Congress. What are they going to say? Well, it's executive orders. Name me an executive order that is king-like. So cleaning up waste and fraud?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. Taking care of overspending is a problem?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Make your liberal Democrat friend name specifically one action of his that is king-like and then make them defend it under cross-examination.
SPEAKER 03 :
Neil, talk to us about SunPower LED, if you would, as we get things wrapped up.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
And then Bob talked about pre-born, if you would, as we close out.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Appreciate it. As we get things wrapped up, Bob, 30 seconds. What's another question you would ask a Democrat when it comes to the No Kings protest?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, well, I would ask them, what is it exactly that Donald Trump has done that angers and infuriates you so much? Give me a specific example. I would really I would pin them down to give one specific example. And then I would cross examine that and dissect their answer in that, because I think at the end of the day, it's going to be nothing more than emotionally. I just hate him. OK, well, that's that's not a good logic. I would expose our lack of logic.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, that'll do it, guys. Thank you very much, Neil, Bob, and for all of you listening. We appreciate it very much. Thank you for all of the input you give to us, by the way, on a regular basis. We appreciate that greatly. You can find out all about our sponsors. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. And again, this has been another episode of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush. We've had Bob Duco and Neil Boron. Have a great week. We'll see you next week right here on the National Crawford Roundtable.
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Later, the conversation takes a serious turn as it evaluates the United States' ongoing involvement in the Iran-Israel conflict, examining various viewpoints and ethical considerations. We also touch upon a tragic shooting incident in Minnesota, examining law enforcement's actions with a critical eye. The episode wraps up with a brief advertisement for the Legal Help Center and a preview of upcoming topics in future podcasts, ensuring listeners stay informed with a range of viewpoints and discussions.
SPEAKER 06 :
on yesterday's mark and mike segment we were talking about everybody being 82 biden's 82 harrison ford's 82 barbara sanders martin's course has 82 mccartney 82 not anymore see The great Paul McCartney, one of the iconic songwriters in human history, 83 today. And look, I know what it would be. Hey, Jude, I know. Long and winding road, man. I love the whole Wings era. I love that. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, I know the Beatles are going to swallow up all the oxygen, but as soon as he started making records with Paul and Linda, even weird things like Uncle Albert and Admiral Halsey, Red Rose Speedway, Venus and Mars, absolutely great. All right, let's hop to it. Have you said anything online about what we're about to do?
SPEAKER 03 :
I posted the clip and I said, this is rough. Which triggered me.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know if I saw you first or saw this first. Let's just go right to it. Is it a good idea for Tucker Carlson to invite Ted Cruz? Sure. What could go wrong? This went wrong. I'm just going to shut up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, it went wrong. What do you mean, what could go wrong? It went wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, it did not go well. But who comes off at the bad end of this? Let's just play it. Because I did. I could not restrain myself from posting about it. And then we'll find out if my talk show... Then we'll find out if my talk show buddy agrees. So the subject, of course, the thing that's hanging from every rafter is what should America do with regard to our continuing deepening involvement in the Iran and Israel war? What's the proper thing? Where does conservatism properly lead us? So Ted Cruz sits down with Tucker Carlson and this happens. How many people live in Iran, by the way?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple? How many people live in Iran? 92 million. Okay. How could you not know that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? Why is that relevant?
SPEAKER 04 :
Because if you don't know anything about the country— I didn't say I don't know anything about the country. Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?
SPEAKER 05 :
They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK. You don't know anything about Iran.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, OK, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're the one who claims you don't know anything about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I'm not saying that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad.
SPEAKER 04 :
You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump. Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're carrying out military strikes today. You said Israel was.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. With our help. I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, you're breaking news here because the U.S. government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, we're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them.
SPEAKER 04 :
You just said we were. We are supporting Israel. This is high stakes. You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
My online reaction to this, and I'll just offer it to the public and thus to you, was, what a stupid and sophomoric game being played by Tucker here, to the surprise of no one. Almanac factoids mean nothing if they are not accompanied by policy wisdom. That's a debate that can be had, but not in a bad faith atmosphere like this. Tucker Carlson in this clip is a king-sized a-hole.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why don't you tell us what you really think? I just have. I mean, I hate how you hold back. I really do. You're so restrained. I'm shy. Well, look, let's stipulate you're not a fan of Tucker. You never have been.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm an enormous fan of Tucker. I miss the guy he used to be. I have found occasional moments of weirdness that you have then said that I'm out on him completely, which I'm still not. I think there's wisdom to be found in there. Sure, sure. But there's performative... You talk. It's your turn. Don't tell me I'm not a Tucker fan. I have been and I remain when he doesn't engage in BS like this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, respectfully, I think your audience might disagree with your characterization of being a self-proclaimed Tucker fan. But nonetheless, put that aside. Honestly, I also have to stipulate that. The gotcha style interview is the lowest, cheapest form. I've seen people do it, and I always cringe every time. It's easy to do, by the way. You come up with facts that you think are going to blindside your guest. And you try to make them look stupid. And and incidentally, there was another that was a clip that was released pre-released from the actual full interview that's going to air today on Tucker's platform. There was another clip he released about Israel spying on us. And he challenged Cruz about why we provide all this kind of financial aid to a country that spies on us relentlessly. And, of course, Ted Cruz rightfully said, well, true, they do. We spy on them. They spy on us. Everybody spies on everybody. But then Tucker pushed back on that. It was another form of the gotcha game. Look, I don't dispute at all. It was uncomfortable and unpleasant to watch and to listen. It's not my favorite thing to see. I will express admiration to Senator Cruz. Because he had to know he was going to walk into that lion's den. It's not like Tucker's position on this is a mystery. And Tucker's position, or Marjorie Taylor Greene's position, a lot of MAGA are uncomfortable with the idea of us actively engaging Iran in a war. And we can debate the merits of it. I happen to agree that we ought to drop that bunker-busting bomb and decimate the nuclear facility and end it. We meaning we, meaning us, you, us, as Paul Harvey once said? Yes, we. I believe that. Let me play this out. Let me play this out. Let me play this out. The strategy? I happen to believe that we are right to end the mullahs and end the reign of terror and step up because we're already involved with Iran in this war, whether we like it or not. I don't understand what the problem is to finish it. However, let's not.
SPEAKER 06 :
I will tell you.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Let's not ignore the other faction of MAGA that helped get Trump elected who are very uncomfortable with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
100% correct. And what you've just done, and what we're going to do some more here in a couple of minutes, is very, in good faith, evaluate what folks over here say and what folks over here say. You have so many great points, and there are some pretty great points that can be made in reply. Because you're right, there's just a glowing moral imperative to, oh man, let's take these people out. They've been a thorn in our side and trying to kill us and our president.
SPEAKER 03 :
They want to kill us. Exactly. They want to destroy us. This is not Ukraine. This is a different story.
SPEAKER 06 :
The other side of this that folks like Charlie Kirk have brought is, yeah, we can sit here and glibly talk about regime change, but the chaos, the refugee crises, the additional violence, this regime may be the devil you know that may be... somewhat better than the devil you don't know if we be careful what you wish for with regime change and what you and i are doing right now is sort of presenting not even in disagreeing about this presenting all sides which tucker just to end this i don't need to dwell forever on tucker and cruz had no interest in doing he had no interest in a good faith exchange tucker is a performative clown in this clip i do still value what he brings to the table he absolutely can bring things to the table.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and right now he's bringing to the table, he's bringing a counter narrative to the, look, the neocons are very excited about this. The neocons attack anybody who pushes back. And I don't like that. I don't like the attacking and the attempt to marginalize an opposing point of view. But look, this is all going to come down to President Trump's decision. Sure. That's all. I mean, we can sit around and scream from the sidelines until we're blue in the face. It's not going to matter. And look, it depends kind of on how Trump feels when he wakes up and says whether he's going to do this or not. I mean, I think Trump, though, is very cognizant of the Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Charlie Kirk sort of pushback. A lot of his voters. He sure is. bingo so let's just not let's not attack them the do you see mark levin screeching on fox news last night holy moly do you see any of this i well i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna play some of it later and well let's play a little bit of it now christian hit it let's listen to mark let's let mark hear a little bit of of mark levin who's got the the position that you and i both hold look we stand with israel and if iran gets their hands on a nuke um israel's gone and then we're next So let's not let's not ignore that. But Mark Levin took it up a few notches, as he will do.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we have morons, fools running around the country. This isn't Magna. This isn't MAGA. This isn't what I voted for. Donald Trump is a forever war president. How so? He's going to do what every president before him since Carter didn't have the guts to do. He's going to put an end to this damn thing. And that's what needs to happen. That's not a warmonger. That's a peacemaker. That is a man who's going to make sure this generation and future generations are protected. from nuclear missiles coming out of the Middle East, from barbarian primitives from the seventh century. That's what he wants to do. And then I hear the question.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, he's not wrong, Mark. He's not wrong. And I don't want to put you in bed with Lindsey Graham, so to speak. And the Levin point there is all in favor of some definitive action that has the very noble goal of taking out a regime that has been a scourge to us into that region forever. The point in reply, and I think it's a worthy point in reply, is it may not be that simple. It may not be, hey, if we just do that bunker buster, they'll go away with their tail between their legs. Have you met these people? Who comes in to be the next regime? Does it suddenly turn into a Jeffersonian democracy? No.
SPEAKER 03 :
But there are millions of people in Iran who crave democracy. There sure are. There is a resistance. And why can't we help that resistance? We've done that before with many nations. We have. We can do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not by bombing the existing regime deeper into the Stone Age.
SPEAKER 03 :
We've usually done sort of things within the networks. Eliminating. Wait a minute. You've got to eliminate the regime, Mark. If the people are going to rise up over there and the resistance is going to have a footing, you've got to take out these barbaric mullahs who want to bomb everybody else out of existence. So, you know, look, this is tough. I continue to pray for the president. 100%. Can we do a quick 30 seconds? We haven't covered this. Did you see what they revealed about the Minnesota shooting? How the police showed up at the doorstep of the woman who was murdered? Yep. They got there before the guy got into the house. They saw him on the porch. Did you know this? No. This has been not really covered in the mainstream media, but it's true. They had a hunch that she could be in jeopardy. They go racing over her house. They see this fake... patrol car in the driveway with this fake lights blinking, and they see the guy with the scary latex mask and the cop uniform standing on the front porch. They realize right away this is bogus. This guy's, they get into a shootout with him. And he gets away. No, he gets into the house and then murders the state representative, her husband, and the family dog, a big, beautiful Irish retriever, just breaks my heart, and escapes. Now, wait a minute. The cops are there already before any of that carnage began. I'm pro-police, but my gosh, Mark, you talk about a failure? Some Barney Fife action going here, maybe? There's some Barney Fife action there. I mean, my gosh. You see him at the front, go around to the back. I mean, surround the house, stop him. They're in a shootout. I think these guys ducked for cover. And in the time when they're out in the driveway... He's murdering these poor people.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is it possible, 60s, is it possible that 2020 hindsight and we weren't there.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, I know.
SPEAKER 06 :
They see this guy, suspicious guy. They exchange fire. They didn't hit him. Oops, they should have. And then he's able to go in and ply his evil trade. It may not be as inept as we think. Well, that's what happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, that is what happened. And I'm not trying to say it's nefarious. But if you've got the police, how would you like to be their loved one? And I think about those poor kids. Oh, man. Those children who are now orphaned by this monster. And I wonder, and I just have to put it out there, is the left going to Luigi this guy? They're going to be a GoFundMe for this guy?
SPEAKER 06 :
He'll have love letters from confused women immediately. You know how grateful I am for you, because here comes the Mike Gallagher show and the rest of mine, where we're going to welcome all the views on this very complex field of war. Just thank God for you and your show, because that's what we're here to do. Back at you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Back at you. I love you, too. Have a great one. See you. That is Mike.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's always a great one when he plugs in as soon as we're done.
Dive into mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey where legal expertise meets a light-hearted approach. This episode sheds light on the intricacies of family dynamics in estate planning, explains the legal language used in wills, and the tax implications of varying trust types. Through Michael's engaging storytelling—featuring tales of ducks, turkeys, and even antelopes—listeners receive a comprehensive understanding of how estate planning can be both vital and engaging. Tune in to discover how your choices today impact your legacy tomorrow, with practical tips and plenty of laughs along the way.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey. So we can do something besides just leave your family alone. You're listening to 560 KLZ AM or 100.7 FM, possibly on the KLZ 560 radio app, Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And again, that's 720-394-6887. So here we are to talk about estate planning. It's the most exciting and fun and dynamic topic in the entirety of Denver radio. You know, some people, you know, they listen to classical music, classical music, pretty exciting, pretty fun. I mean, I remember a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where he was listening to the 1812 orchestra or the 1812 overture by Josh Hosky. And, you know, Calvin's like, I don't know, this is kind of boring. His dad's like, no, listen very closely to the percussion section. Calvin's like, wow, that is an interesting percussion section. He's like, well, it's cannons. And Calvin goes, he had cannons in crowded music halls? This is so exciting! Well, I think all of us know that there's not actual cannons shooting people. There are actual canyons in the 1812 Overture, but they weren't like shooting cannonballs or a grape shot or trying to actually kill people in the audience. My son's middle school band performed the 1812 Overture at their end of year concert a couple of months ago. They did not have any cannons, but the kids, the eighth grade kids went and found some fireworks that you could like pull a string and they would pop and be nice and loud. So they had their own indoor cannons and apparently fired off confetti and stuff like that. So as the other kids are trying to play their instruments, there was a cannon fire and confetti raining down. I'm like, okay, this is entertaining for a middle school band concert. Because in middle school band concerts, sometimes you're just trying to avoid... at all being squeaks and incorrect notes and things like that. Anybody who's ever been to a middle school band concert knows what I'm saying, and all of us who have middle school band kids are very proud of them and tell them they did a great job, but it's not quite the same as a professional orchestra performing the 1812 Overture. Now, I've been to the 1812 Overture performed in northern Colorado by professional musicians, and it was an outdoor venue, and they actually had the National Guard brought in some cannons that were quite loud. But, yeah, it's kind of fun. But, you know, estate planning, not as much fun as cannons in classical music. Now there are other radio stations out there, I believe that do sports talk radio. Now sports talk radio can be fun and exciting. I mean, right now, if we're discussing the, the, uh, the teams that are currently playing professional sports here in Colorado, we've got the, uh, Colorado Rockies and the Colorado Rapids, I believe that are currently playing. And the Rapids, they're kind of a middle-of-the-road type of team. The Rockies, I hear they won two games in a row. So they're on a roll. They're doing great. Except for they're still on pace to be the worst team in the history of modern Major League Baseball. They're on pace to win like 31 games now as opposed to 29. That's out of 162 for anybody who doesn't follow sports. And there's only so many times you can talk about um you know the the broncos and how their off-season organized team activities are going and you can talk about um you know the nuggets and you know what they need to do to try to become a better basketball team and the avalanche and you know how they should have done this that or whatever to be become the stanley cup champions unlike the uh you know in place of the florida panthers who won a stanley cup championship last night So, you know, sports talk radio can be exciting right now. It might not be as exciting as estate planning because everybody loves estate planning. It's the most exciting topic ever. Now, I mean, I'm not cool enough to be a popular music person, to be producing popular music. I have some musical abilities, but I don't know that I could put together a hit song or a hit record. It's just not part of what I do. And so, you know, I'm really not competing with music. But there are other... There are other radio stations out there playing music, and they're playing different types of music. So, you know, whether it's popular music or country music or oldies music or kind of soft rock or hard rock or, you know, rap or any number of different genres of music. You know, I don't have a whole lot of genres of music that I play in the estate planning world. But the estate planning world does account for all of those different things and all of those different tastes. And people who have different tastes all are able to be served by because everybody needs an estate plan. What I do is not fun and exciting, but it is important and necessary. And those are kind of different things. And I get that what I do is not fun and exciting. That's fine. We talk about estate planning. I'm like, all right, who's going to get your stuff when you die? Well, okay, that can be exciting. I have a client who she changed her mind on a will, and she wants to give X number of dollars to one of her daughters and not to a different daughter. And the different daughter, I was like, oh, well, I think you might want to – And she's like, well, you know, I don't want to leave her anything. But, you know, the language of, you know, not leaving something to somebody can be really harsh. So what can we do about that? And I was like, well, the language that we use is exactly what the Supreme Court and the state legislature tell us. And I'm sorry if it seems harsh, but that's the language we use because that's the language that's approved by the people who make the laws and tell us what to do. And I realize that I'm not actively trying to hurt anybody's feelings when I write an estate plan. But I'm also trying to make sure that there's no terrible things that are going to go on. Now, this particular client, the child that they're thinking of excluding was one that they haven't had a long relationship with. It was a product of a kind of like a high school romance that turned into an unwed, unwanted pregnancy. And so they gave the child up for adoption. you know, the discussion of, oh, what do we do here? And they're like, well, you know, do they have any claim to the estate? And I said, I can't give you a 100% sure answer. If they are your child, then probably. If they've been fully adopted by somebody else and you don't have any legal responsibility to them, then probably not. But I don't have, I can't just make that determination for you. And, you know, that's not something that I had full enough information to say 100% one way or the other. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And once again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So as you're... As we're talking about fun and exciting stuff, and this particular lady, I don't – she's – and I get it. I'm not trying to actively hurt feelings when I'm doing estate plans. I don't think anybody is. Well, maybe some people are. But they're meaner than I am, and that's hard to do because I'm pretty darn mean. Huh, Luke? Pretty darn mean. That's just – That's what people say about me is he's pretty darn mean. Famously, a tyrant, cruel and cynical and terrible all around. I maintain my story is that I'm a mean, ornery cuss. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. And just because not too many people use the word cuss or cur in everyday language, but it sounds somewhat... Sounds a little bit cowboyish, like, you know, we're on the range driving cattle across the, you know, the open plains. I don't know that there's a lot of open plains to be driving cattle across now. There's usually county roads and there's fences and, you know, sometimes there's freeways and... No one wants to be driving on a freeway when a cow is trying to cross it. It's no good. Actually, I'm sorry. A couple months ago, I was driving home after work, and I was in I-25 in between like 92nd and 104th, and like the whole, it was like 7 o'clock at night, and like everything slowed down, and I was like, what in the world is going on here? And as I was driving by, there was a turkey. The turkey was running across I-25. There was also a cloud of feathers because one of the turkeys had not made it across I-25 and been hit by some sort of car. So I'm like, well, the one turkey made it. He's probably sad he or she lost his turkey friend. But I'm like, that would be a sad thing to be driving along and suddenly there's a turkey in a cloud of feathers that goes poof and explodes. I've never had the occasion to hit a turkey. I didn't even know that turkeys tried to cross I-25. You know, I've seen other animals try to cross I-25, usually a little much smaller. They're, you know, like squirrels or rabbits or something like that. But... Never a turkey. You know, I have been driving in the mountains when a deer or an antelope or something like that will cross the road. I mean, we were down in Walsenburg on Memorial Day. We were driving out to the land that we had purchased out there and there was an antelope that was bouncing across the road and then jumping across our land. And it's unimproved land, so there's not like a house or anything that I was worried about. But I'm like, hey, this is kind of cool that we've got an antelope just kind of bouncing across our land. And we thought it was nice that they were antelope. And as we walked the land, there didn't seem to be any snake holes or anything like that. So we're like, hey, even better. Because since we're going with cowboy theme, you can be home, home on the range where the deer and the antelope play. where seldom is heard, a discouraging word, and the skies are not cloudy all day. Well, the fun part about that is if you mess with the punctuation, where seldom is heard, a discouraging word, seldom may be the discouraging word that you're hearing. So, you know, somebody says seldom, you're like, oh no, I'm discouraged. It can be terrible. But You know, this poor woman today was discouraged by the fact that there was language of someone's intentionally disinherited and, you know, shall not receive anything under the will. I'm like, I'm not entirely sure how to say that nicer. I'm like, well, you know, we know you're there, kiddo, but we've decided it would be better to give money to somebody else. So we're really not going to leave anything for you. And so, you know, you'll get zero, which is unfortunate. We're very sorry about that. But we think it'll work out better to leave our money to other people. Does that work? Sure. I mean, is that, but, you know, it's very simple. It's like, hey, disinherited, intentionally excluded. Cool. Done. You know, and, you know, like I said, I'm not trying to be harsh. Just sometimes it works out that way. And so as we go through, you know, so as we go through and do things, we've got to do it the right way. And so as we try to do things, there's certain language that you do and certain things that we do and we're not trying to have anything of why it doesn't work or why it doesn't go the way that it's supposed to. But the language is set up by the by the way that things happen and by the way that things are supposed to go. And so it's very difficult for, you know, and since I don't make the rules, it's not really going to be the type of thing that I can just say, oh, yes, well, we'll switch the rules up and we'll make it not work for you because we don't want it to work. So there's certain things that as we try to go through, there's variations on things we can do and there are certain people that we can go ahead and do what needs to be done and we can switch things around and there is a lot of variation there. But there are certain words and certain ways of saying and doing things that we need to do so that they work. And just because we would like things to be less harsh or we'd like them to be set up a certain way doesn't mean that we can't do it that way. Now, I've had people who, as I write them wills and trusts, there are certain types of trusts that I write where part of what we do is we're setting up a trust, but it's going to be what's called a grantor-type trust so that assets or income to that trust doesn't get taxed at the trust level, but rather flows through to be taxed at the trust level. the trust maker levels. So if someone creates a trust, and then you still have income with it and things like that, then we say, okay, well, we've got, if we have income, so if we create a trust, you create a trust, let's say you put your investment account inside the trust, and then the investment account pays you $5,000 in dividend income. Well, that $5,000 in dividend income needs to be taxed somewhere. They can be taxed to the trust. It could be taxed to the person who created the trust. Okay. Well, if we want it all to flow through, if it's like a revocable trust and all of the income is going through the trust to the person, that's part of what they're living off of, then it would make sense for it to be taxed at the person who's alive and receiving the incomes level. So we do that. And there are certain types of trusts that are irrevocable trusts where income flows through to the grantor or the trustmaker, the person who creates the trust. And there are certain criteria that you have to meet for that to work. And so I have written trusts like that. People are like, oh, well, you know, is this a grantor type trust? I'm like, yes, it is. They're like, well, why? Well, you know, here's the rules and here's what degree of control they still have so that they can be considered the tax owner and, you know, be able to pay the tax. And I've had people be like, oh, well, you know, you need to make sure you say that in there. And I'm like, well, here's the thing is that it meets all of the criteria. If it meets all the criteria, that's how it's to be set up. And we don't necessarily explicitly need to say, oh, and this is a grantor trust because of this, because it meets the criteria. Now, some people want to have it explicitly stated. I'm like, great, we can have it explicitly stated. That's cool. You know, there's nothing wrong with having something explicitly stated like that of what it needs to be. But other times, we don't necessarily need to explicitly state it because it is, you know, it meets all the criteria. So I think of it as something like this. I'm like, you know, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it flies like a duck and it lands in the water, what do you think it is, Luke? I would venture to guess a duck, probably. Are you sure? Probably. Probably, yeah. If it does all the duck things, then I think my best educated guess would be probably a duck. Right. Do I need to explicitly state that it is a duck if I named all the things that it does that are like a duck? No. No, I think it should be pretty apparent. Should be pretty clear, right? Yeah. Now, it may not be a duck, and there may be some things we need to explicitly state, but But a lot of times when we meet all the criteria, we don't necessarily need to say, oh, well, this is in fact a duck. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey, despite the fact that we're talking about ducks right now, on 560 AM KLZ or on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, 720-394-6887. And I think part of the reason that people want things explicitly stated is because they're unfamiliar with the law or they're unfamiliar with the rules. And so they want everything explicitly stated and set out for them. And I get that too. But sometimes those who are familiar with certain things will do things one way, and they don't necessarily always go through and explicitly state everything. I think something like, so I'm a basketball referee, and maybe you have a person who's driving to the hole, a dribbler who drives to the hole. There's contact in a crash at the end, And someone goes up where they make or miss a shot, and so we call a foul. And sometimes I'm like, okay, well, I have a foul on the defender. And they're like, well, why do you have a foul? And the coach will be like, well, why do you have a foul on the defender? The offense came in and crashed into them. And I say, because the defender never established legal guarding position. And a coach who has an understanding of the rules will understand that legal guarding position is something that a defender must have to be able to have an offensive foul on a crash. Some coaches are like, well, what do you mean legal guarding position? He was there. And I'm like, well, no. Legal guarding position is you have to have both feet on the floor facing a defender while the defender is dribbling or holding the ball. If they never establish that prior to the contact, then I can't have an offensive foul on a crash like that. And, you know, sometimes coaches will be like, oh, well, you know, why did you just say that? I'm like, because that's what legal guarding position means. And, you know, I realize that sometimes, you know, people can get silly and laugh about, you know, what things mean. I think there's a line from... infinity war where um thor is he's like i'm gonna hold it open and the other character is like but that will kill you he says only if i die and the other character responds Yes, that's what killing means. So, you know, I mean, we can understand, yeah, it's going to kill you, but only if I die. Well, yes, that's what killing means. You know, there's not a lot of crazy, you know, what does it mean to be killed? Does it mean that you die? Well, yes, those are kind of interchangeable synonyms. But, oh, right, makes sense. Killing might be a little bit of an intentional inflicting of death on the other person, but still, it does involve dying, so it's not as if it's going to be a big thing. Well, I don't necessarily have things that are inflicted or different like that. They're just kind of a little bit... A little bit different, a little bit strange sometimes, and all those type of things. But it doesn't necessarily mean that the person's... going to you know that somehow um if we you meet all the criteria it's kind of like you know it's like oh is this a will well if it has you know what happens to your stuff when you die who's going to distribute things out and you know um you know as somebody who's in charge of that and the time frame and you know the manner and means in which it's supposed to be done If it doesn't say will at the top of it, it's still a will. We know what's going to happen to it. Even if it doesn't say will, last will and testament at the top of it. Now, to be clear, the documents that I write, if it's a will, it'll say last will and testament. And it'll say financial power of attorney or medical power of attorney or living will or advanced directive. It'll have a title that helps people to know and understand what it is. But especially in like the trusts that I write, I'll have a section that says headings and titles are for reference and in navigating the trust only. We're not saying that it's going to be the most, you know, the heading or the title is going to be definitive on what things mean. I mean, sometimes I have people where I write trusts for them and they're like, oh, well, we don't want it to be the Bailey family trusts because then people will know who it is. You know, it's like you're Michael Bailey or the Bailey family trust is yours. I'm like, okay, great. Like, well, we would want to call it the Deep Blue Sea Smart Shark Trust. Okay, we can call it the Deep Blue Sea Smart Shark Trust if you want. Or you could call it the Jaws Just Big Scary Shark Trust. Okay, we can do that. We could call it the Marine Life Biology Trust. Okay, you know, there's nothing particularly special about the name of the trust, but you want to be able to have it be identified. Now, when I created my trust, I did not call it the Bailey Family Trust. I named it something slightly different just so it was, you know, in fact, our trust and so that we knew what it was going to be. And we knew that it was, you know, what was going to be happening with it so that it was all, you know, in place and, you know, I wasn't trying to be like, ha ha, I'm going to hide and nobody will know that it's the Deep Blue Sea Smart Shark Trust. Nobody will know who that's related to. Well, you know, if you've seen the movie Deep Blue Sea and the smarter sharks, then you know what I'm talking about. And Jaws being just a big scary shark, but not necessarily a smart shark. But it wasn't to be like, oh, I'm hiding. I'm going to have this private trust that nobody can ever know what it is. I'm like, yeah, well, it's just a different name. If I were to be sued, somebody could still come get my trust assets. That's kind of how that goes. But... Once we set up a trust, I just named it something unique so that it would be something that we would know about. And then it would be unique to us. So there's so many different things that go into estate planning. And setting things up in the right words, not necessarily every word has to be dictated and not everything has just one rule. But the more that we can work on getting your trust or your will set up for you to do what you want... using the right words and using the words and the forms and all of the things that the law tells us we should do, all of which helps get your assets where you want them to go. So thanks so much for listening. John Rush and Rush Reasoner up next. Stay tuned, and I'll talk to you next week. Thanks and bye.
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Join Al Smith and Troy Davidson as they explore the buzz-worthy realm of beekeeping and how it can add fulfillment to your post-work life. From misconceptions about honeybees to practical advice on starting your own hive, this episode serves as a guide for anyone interested in keeping bees as a rewarding retirement venture. Tune in for a discussion on how retirement can be more than just relaxation—it's a time to grow, learn, and contribute.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
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Well, thank you for tuning in another program of Retirement Unpacked. I sincerely appreciate you listening. There's other things you could be doing. And if you've listened before, you know, I've talked a lot about how we need to plan so that as we move into retirement, there'll be adequate income. But I've also spoken quite a lot about finding your purpose in retirement and because moving from the workplace to retirement involves an enormous amount of time and I think we all need to think about how should we spend that time? How can we give back? How can we find something that provides us fulfillment and it can also benefit other people? Well, you may have heard him before. It's been a year and a half or two years since I had him on the show. But I am fortunate enough to have Troy Davidson, who is retired and also a master beekeeper. He knows, I've probably forgotten more about bees than, he just knows everything there is. And you have a certification, Troy, what is that?
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Yeah. Well, thanks for inviting me back. I love being on the show. So there's a number of different programs Colorado is offer. I think Colorado State is a great program for master beekeeping. Mine is through the University of Montana. It's a three year course. That you go through, you start as an apprentice, you test out of that and move your way up to journeyman and then finally through the master beekeeping course. And it's about like I said, it's a three year program and then you get your sort of certification through that. That's. Similar to the ones they have in Colorado. It involves a lot of book work, a lot of going out with other beekeepers at different levels and learning all about the bees and all that good stuff.
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So it's about half hands-on and half learning material about what you need to know if you're going to be a beekeeper.
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Absolutely. It's part of a biosciences field, so it gets a little complicated on the book side of things. I have a lot more fun when I'm out in the field talking with other people.
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Well, I can certainly imagine that. What would you say is the greatest misconception that the general public has about honeybees?
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You know, I would say a couple things. One, that they sting you all the time, no matter what. They're just going to find you and sting you. And that part is not true. They're curious. If you're at a barbecue, of course, they're going to be attracted to the foods and stuff. It's generally the... more of the yellow jackets and the wafts that will sting you. Bees will generally leave you alone unless you're threatening their hive. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, and I think the other misconception is honey just shows up on the store shelves, and it's quite a complicated process for that to happen. So I would say that's probably two of the most misconceptions.
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What takes place between the bees making the honey in the hive and you having it? Because you brought me a wonderful sample here of wildflower honey. What happens between the bees making it in the hive and it ending up in the jar? What takes place?
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Yes. And it's... If you YouTube a commercial beekeeping operation, it's a lot different than your smaller, your more local beekeepers. In our case, ours, we keep it as fresh and natural as possible. Our process is we extract the frames from each individual hive.
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The frame is like the network of things that hold the...
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yeah it's a honeycomb shape absolutely okay that's what it is it's the honeycomb on a if you can picture like a picture frame almost it's and you put you slide it into a box which we call a super and you have ten of them in that box and we extract each one when they're full and then you uncap it and there's there's many ways you can uncap it You can, for lack of a better term, a pitchfork type system where you uncap each cell on the frames. Some people use a heated knife, a serrated knife, and they scrape down along that. We use a fairly new system. It's almost, if you can picture, a rolling pen that you would use in baking. And it's got wheels of stainless steel cutters on it, spaced about a quarter inch apart, the distance between the cells. And we run it through that. And it basically just slices a little slice through those cells. And then we spin it in a spinner and it spins the honey out and drops it into the bottom of a barrel. And from there, some beekeepers put it through multiple filtering processes. We do a simple strain. We keep most of everything in there other than, say, the large particles of wax or something that the bees may have brought in and fallen onto the bottom of our extracting process. bees leg or something yeah there's yeah and sometimes the wax the bigger chunks of wax and stuff that people just probably don't want that now the benefit now that spinner um correct me if i'm wrong that's kind of like a centrifuge it is absolutely so it's uh it's a motorized unit some people have hand crank uh ones and it literally does that it just spins the frames you put two or four or eight or twelve however big the machine is and it spins that honey those frames and it takes the honey out of the cell simply by the gravity like a centrifuge
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Well, and let's say if you have one hive and you have several of those sheets that are holding the honey, like the frames, as you call them, how many small jars of honey would that ultimately produce?
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On a smaller, what we call the honey supers, which are about a six-inch deep frame, square box if you can imagine full of say 10 frames you'll get about 30 35 pounds of honey out of that so if you're if you're bottling you know one pound jars do the math 35 bottles um some people do the bigger regular deep supers and you can get about 70 pounds of honey out of each of those Oh, wow. The problem with it, it depends on how you want to do it. Obviously, the heavier, the harder it is to move around and take off those hives.
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Yeah, I can see that. So it's not a labor-free hobby by any stretch of the imagination.
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Very labor-intensive, yeah, very labor-intensive.
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But it's a labor of love. Absolutely. And in your case, I know you, having gotten the certification after three years and everything like that, being a labor of love, it's what you do and what you love. What if someone were mowing lawn in the backyard or something like that and then all of a sudden they realized there's bees flying around because there's a hive. Are some hives in trees or bushes or do some of them, I know wasp nests often end up in the overhang of underneath the roof of a home. Do beehives end up there sometimes also?
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Yeah, so a lot of times we'll get calls and then we direct them to the Colorado State has a great swarm line, a hotline that you can call and they'll send out somebody to extract and take care of those swarms for you for the most part. Unless they're in the attic and stuff, then it becomes a little different, complicated process. But they'll still help you probably find someone who will do that. And a wasp, those are most of the times the little nests you'll see under the eaves and stuff. If you see bees on a branch or clustered around the side of a pillar or something, more than likely that's what we call a swarm. And a swarm is when... A particular hive will decide, for a number of reasons, that it's time to take off and find a new home. So that can be because the queen is no longer really productive. By that, I mean the queen's not laying enough eggs, so the worker bees will all get together and basically make a new queen egg. And that queen and half of the hive will take off. They'll swarm. And they'll find a branch or the side of a house, a pillar or something. And they'll sort of go there and group. And then scout bees will go out and try and find a better house, a hive that they can live in.
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Now, unlike people, the new small swarm, will they still be in a good relationship with the original hive?
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Well, you know, it's funny. It's almost, I liken it to Game of Thrones when it comes to... That's exactly what I was thinking of. If those two queens see each other, if the new queen that those bees have created in the old hive and the other queen were to get together, which does happen, they fight to the death. A lot of times that old queen that is in the hive before they swarm or maybe because they won't swarm because she finds these eggs that the rest of the colony is producing and she'll kill those eggs or she'll kill the bee right when it comes out. So it's a fight.
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That reminds me of these nature shows I've seen where male lions will come into a pride and young, strong male lions chase off the old male and then kill the cubs so that the offspring will carry their own DNA.
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Yeah.
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And I had never even imagined that that would be true in bees also. But that's just part of the natural cycle of things is the strongest, you know, survive. The elk that has, you know, 10 cows has to fight off the other young elks that, you know, they want to reproduce also. And that's kind of like the nature of things. so to speak. What would you say to someone who's thinking, well, gosh, this sounds like fun. I could put on one of those hazmat suits and, you know, grow, not grow, but raise bees and have fresh honey that came from my backyard. Is that something that's easy? Or what would you recommend for someone who would like to become a beekeeper?
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That's a great question, Al. I always tell people, because I get that question quite often, I want to start beekeeping. What do I need to do? And I think the thought process is that I'm going to go out and buy all the equipment, you know, the hazmat suit, the bee suit, and all the equipment, and I'm going to plop it in my backyard, and I'm going to be a beekeeper. I always suggest to people, number one, Maybe find a bee club or a mentor, maybe a neighbor, somebody who's already a beekeeper, and I would say shadow them. Go over there for a weekend, ask them if you can help them or watch them or whatever, and see if it's really for you, because there's a little bit more to it sometimes. And those are great resources. You'll find out really quick whether you want to be a beekeeper or not. And that's to kind of save you before you go out and spend a lot of money on bee equipment. Beekeeping can be an expensive hobby, especially initially. I would say go out, educate yourself, find out if your HOA even allows bees. Is it going to be okay? You don't necessarily want to be a bad neighbor. By that I mean think about it. Where are you going to place the hives? Does your neighbor have a lot of kids and they have the pool or something on your side of the backyard where it's closest to you? You might think, okay, well, maybe I'm going to put it on the other side of the yard. Or just think through what you're going to do. and try and be a good neighbor, first of all. I like to bribe my neighbors with bottles of honey.
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That can really help. And the thing about that is your neighbor may love your hive, especially if he gets a bottle of honey from time to time. But depending on the community where you live, there may be a covenant Nazi neighbor. Years ago where we lived, we had a lawn that sloped in the back, making it very, very easy for a dog to jump over the fence. And so we extended the mesh part of our fence. above the rail to the post. And the covenant read, well, you can have mesh fence up to the top of the fence. It didn't say post or rail. And that was explained clearly to me, and the dog ran away again.
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And HOAs can be tricky. They really can. So like you're suggesting, I would check what the rules are for sure. You're kind of jumping into something that may sound absolutely fabulous to you and interesting, but there's a little bit of research and some education you want to put behind it.
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Well, that sounds really interesting. And correct me if I'm wrong, but there's like a whole network of clubs and that sort of thing where someone could learn about it before they end up investing money and starting their own hive. Or you even provided another word, which you can explain more about that after the break.
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Welcome back. We're blessed to have Troy Davidson, who is a master beekeeper here. And he has an email, info at milehighbees.com, if you'd like to learn more about beekeeping. And also, Troy just really, really loves beekeeping. And if you were involved with a service club or someone like that, he would... you know, love to have you buy him breakfast and he can talk about beekeeping to you. Now, I know there is quite a hierarchy of clubs and everything like that throughout the whole metro area. Is that accurate, Troy?
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There's a lot of really good clubs out there. You know, Wherever you live at, if you were to search online for bee clubs and maybe type in your area, your zip code or something, you'll find them. There's so many good people in the beekeeping business. And if you really want to learn something about bees or just want to find out where to buy some local honey, they're the place to go.
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That sounds awesome. Now, beekeeping, obviously, the end result is honey. Why should people have honey instead of sugar?
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For one, I think it tastes better. Nutrition-wise, honey has all the minerals, has the enzymes, has all the antimicrobials that are so much healthier for you than the refined sugar that most of us eat. Give Honey a try. You'll find it's
Join professional money manager Bill Gundersen as he explores the dynamic world of the stock market amidst a backdrop of global political tensions and economic forecasts. In this episode, Gundersen discusses the latest market turnaround, insights into Federal Reserve decisions, and the profound impacts of international events on oil and gold prices. Dive deep into the mechanisms driving earnings as Gundersen contextualizes current market strategies with historical performance.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday, Wednesday, it's Wednesday, June the 18th, the version of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And we have a turnaround in the market going on right now. It opened down and there must have been some news here in the last 15 minutes. I'll tell you what, you've got to be on your toes with the news feed these days. Right now the Dow is up. 120 points to 42,336. Maybe Powell will cut rates. I doubt it. But we'll see. The S&P is up 19 points, 6,001. The NASDAQ is up 65 points to 19,585. Small caps up. A little bit today. Interest rates down a little bit today. We get the big Fed decision around 2 o'clock, 2.30. I think 2 o'clock, 2.30 is the press conference. And right now that 10-year yield is at 4.36, 4.36. Down a few bips. From where we closed yesterday, crude oil is having a big day. It's up 1.5%. It's clear up to $75.95.
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It's up over $15 per barrel since this whole conflict began. And gold is up 10 basis points right now to $3,411. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with Bill Gunderson, professional money manager. We'll see if Barry joins us here during the show here today. We've been pretty busy down here in the Lakewood Ranch area. We had a fun workshop last night with a very lively, vibrant crowd. Good time was had by all, I hope. And I hope a lot was learned by all on just some of the simple concepts that I have found to be so effective today. uh... not only in looking at the big picture of the markets but also down uh... at the individual stock level and the importance of earnings play earnings earnings earnings uh... in the markets and uh... those of you who are involved in real estate know it's all about location location location and uh... in the markets it's earnings earnings earnings that's what drives the bus now we had a pretty down day yesterday in the market There was a little bit of a flight to safety. There's a little bit of an unknown factor right now as Trump gathered his war cabinet yesterday to discuss options. I don't know that the U.S. wants to get involved, but at the same time... The Ayatollah Khomeini is not backing down, and he refuses to surrender, and he's holding on to that last little bit of that nuclear enrichment deep under the ground, which would take some bunker-busting bombs to get down to that level. So that's what the market is weighing here today. It's really showing up in oil, which is now up above $75 per barrel. And I'm sure that's going to impact the gas pump, probably already is. And he's demanding a surrender by Iran. Give up your nuclear ambitions. And they refuse, absolutely refuse to do that. And that's where everything stands. And of course, today is the Fed rate announcement day. Will they cut to rates or not? Gold is up a little bit here today. It's currently at $3,411. I can remember not that long ago when it was 1700, back in the 08-09 time frame. It's doubled since then. A lot of that has come in the last year with all of the turmoil, not only in the world, but here in America. And that's where we stand. And, of course, those interest rates are pretty low right now on a relative basis, not on an absolute basis. We're at 4.37%, 4.37% as we await the Fed decision today. There seems to be very little inflation. I mean, we're at their target. probably target point in inflation of around 2%. I see Europe's coming in. I saw one country come in at 1.7% today. So it's definitely time for a rate cut, but I think not. I don't think that we're going to see one today. And a lot of people say that we may not see one until the end of the year. Now, in the meantime, Iran's Khomeini, who rejected Trump's surrender call warns of irreparable damage if the U.S. joins the fight. Well, I think the U.S. is already involved in the fight in the background. I don't think Israel would have done what they've done so far to Iran without at least our wink of the eye or whatever it is, and also some help from us with some of the weaponry that they're using. It's the bunker busters. I guess that is the next big question mark. Will we get involved with dropping those bunker busters? I don't know if Israel has the planes to carry those things. Those things are really heavy. It takes a special plane. Maybe that's why the U.S. would have to get involved. And, of course, Trump ran on a platform of, no, I'm not going to get us into any war. So therein lies the conundrum. In the meantime, earnings have been going up since 2009. For the S&P 500, I had a few observers of my chart last night, of those earnings, of my bar chart, and he said, isn't earnings growth accelerating? And yes, absolutely. This year, next year, and the year after that, at least the earnings estimates are. And what would you attribute that to? You know, I would just say more tools at the hands of CEOs these days. Whether it's AI, whether it's customer relationship management, CRM systems, whatever the system may be, they seem to be more nimble and able to read their business and be able to make quick changes, more quick, faster than they ever have before. And, of course, the pace of the new inventions that have been coming along in the markets. I think that has all added to that. But that doesn't mean that Wall Street is on board. I saw the headline on Yahoo Finance today, Wall Street hates this rally. They say Wall Street isn't exactly buying it. You know, if they can find anything negative, it could be the brightest, sunniest day outside. It's 89 degrees with the light breeze, but hot and humid. It's a hot and humid, almost unbearable kind of day. That's the way our media seems to handle it. So do you hate this rally? I guess raise your hand if you hate this rally. If you're in it... And riding this thing since back in March 8th of this year when we hit 4,800 and now we're at 6,000. Do you hate this rally? I suppose if you were wrong and were predicting doom and gloom and a recession and a market crash because of the tariff issues and didn't participate in the rally, I suppose you would hate this rally. But nevertheless, Wall Street hates this rally, according to Yahoo Finance, which does, you know, they take the opposite side of the coin, very much so. Not a supporter of Trump, as is CNBC, not a supporter. Most of the big media firms in Bloomberg, in the financial industry, not supporters. So any kind of... Any kind of bad headline they could put out there, you know, they do it. Euro. Okay, there it is. Euro area. That's the whole euro area. That's the European Central Bank area. Their inflation is 1.9%, down from 2.2%, and dipping below the ECB central target for inflation of under 2% for the first time since 2024. And let's not forget that the euro area has been cutting interest rates. I want to say six or seven straight rate cuts. And guess what? Inflation continues to remain low. You would think Jerome Powell would take a look at that and say, you know, while they've done six or seven cuts, we haven't done any. And their inflation continues to go down, even with the rate cuts, Jerome. But I think he's going to stand firm. He's going to be data-driven. You know, we're data-driven here. We're waiting to see the unemployment lines climb. Well, why not take a preemptive strike here and lower those rates and keep the economy going? It comes down to pride, I think, and ego, things like that may be impacting them. Jobless claims dipped by 5,000 in the last week. That jobless line is not growing, therefore probably won't get that rate cut. We ended the week with 245,000 initial jobless claims, which is a little bit higher than it has been, but still very, very low overall. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Rare earth seems to be the tip of everybody's tongue these days as it becomes really, I mean, China, if they didn't have those rare earth deposits and supposedly 70% of the world's rare earth that has been discovered at least, That has been a big, big bargaining chip for them. And, you know, the world is clamoring to get a steady supply and guarantees of supplies in the future because it's in so many different things. And I was reading here this morning that China's rare earth exports at a five-year low amid magnet export curbs. These are high-powered magnets. which are used in many, many applications. May's export volume of rare earth products fell by 61% from a year earlier. That's because China is holding back. While these negotiations are taking place, the data for last month shows the extent to which export controls and what export controls in place since early April, how they've curbed the shipments before this recent U.S.-China meeting to resolve the restrictions. But, of course, last Wednesday, President Trump said the trade deal with China was done, subject to final approval by him and Xi, and full magnets and any necessary rare earths will be supplied up front. So they can't play games and say, oh, no, you know what, we're holding back. He wants them up front. And that seems to be the agreement right now. And now, in the meantime, the rare earth stocks are, MP Materials is up another 7.4% today. You can look at the chart of that. And they do have sales. I mean, MP Materials has about $220 million in sales per year. A lot of that's lithium. But MP looks to be the most promising rare earth stock here in the U.S., headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada, the rare earth capital of the world. That's hitting $38.17 today, and that's one we own in our emerging growth portfolio. That's where something like that belongs. Viasat joins the list of the salt typhoon cyber attack victims. Now, this is another thing. You know, these are Chinese government-linked hackers out there. And, of course, Viasat is a big satellite company headquartered in Carlsbad, California. Maybe it's in Virginia now, but it had a big plant out there in Carlsbad, not too far from where I live. They say they were breached by the Chinese government-linked hackers Salt Typhoon last year during the U.S. presidential elections. They discovered the attack earlier this year and have been collaborating with the government in the aftermath. The list of salt typhoons attacks are now Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile. Spectrum, Lumen, Digital Realty, Fortinet, Cisco, and others, Consolidated Communications and Windstream, have also been listed as victims of the cyber attacks. so far. And they've even, Chinese hackers targeted data from phones used by Donald Trump and JD Vance during their election campaign trail. So that's another issue with China. And, you know, I suppose we have espionage on them too. But cyber attacks on private companies, that's what's been going on here. Argentina moves closer to energy self-sufficiency as the Vaca Muerta hits record output. Well, I would just compare what they're doing in Argentina with what they've done in Venezuela. I mean, Venezuela's oil fields basically have crumbled, even though they have all of that oil. I mean, they're way behind the times in technology. They can't get the oil out of the ground. The people suffer. That's a lot of money that could be coming into the country. On the other hand, Argentina's got, you know, the Elvis Presley look alike running the country and very much a capitalistic system that he's pursuing and installing. And they're coming close to energy self-efficiency and getting record output from their oil fields while Venezuela's continue to crumble. And Dural and Rheinmetall to build military drones for the European markets. Well, you know, Europe has woken up to the fact that Putin is a big threat. and that the U.S. is not going to pay for and finance their defense as much as we have in the past over at the NATO nations. And Enduro is a U.S. company, kind of a creepy kind of company. They did a special on 60 Minutes on it. They're kind of linked a little bit with Palantir and whatnot. And Dural and Rheinmetall, that's that European defense. There is a European defense ETF that I brought to your attention a couple of times. It's one of the top performing ETFs in the market this year. But they're discovering that military drones are a very important and efficient way of defending yourself. And I'm still a big believer in some of the drone manufacturers of drones. And in that emerging growth portfolio, we got back into aero environment, AVAV, which is the third biggest builder of drones in the world. But that brings up another subject here. Iran is supplying Russia with a big drone supply that Russia is then turning around and using against Ukraine. So there's definitely some loyalty there between Putin and Iran's leader. And, of course, you've got Iran doubling down today saying, no, we're not going to surrender. And now I think that Russia is starting to come forward and starting to warn the U.S., about any involvement in an attack on Iran because there's that link between Russia and Iran there with those all-important drones which are swarming into Ukraine and doing major damage. So that's just something else you've got to think about on the world stage. And I think probably a lot of those ballistic missiles are coming from China, maybe North Korea supplying Iran. So what do you do about that, okay? Do you take the leader of Iran out? He has been a pariah. Most of my life, the Ayatollah Khomeini and the people, he is about a 20% of the people like the guy in Iran, the hardcore folks. And that's the conundrum right now that's going on in the world. And in the meantime, our cybersecurity stocks have been doing very, very well. Needham is out with a list of their favorites a couple of them are my favorites and I don't see how in this world today a 2025 portfolio cannot have some exposure to cyber security stocks what are the best we'll be right back Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half already of today's Best Docs Now show. A couple of charts are jumping off the page at me here. This morning so far, I mentioned MP Materials. Look, it's a very aggressive stock. Yes, they have $120 million in sales annually so far, but they're looking under the ground for rare earth minerals. I haven't really heard. I would have to read through one of their transcripts of a recent article earnings report of just how they're doing as far as finding rare earth minerals, elements actually, in that part of the world. But that one is definitely a nice breakout here today. And another one here that's catching my eye, I really like this concept of relative value. I really do. You know, I mean, it's different. It's a different concept from buying pure value Benjamin Graham type stocks with low PEs and low price to book and low price to sales and all of that. Instead, I'm looking for stocks that are trading at low PE, low price to sales, on a relative basis. They've been trading at much higher ratios in recent years. And when they get down to what I consider to be relatively inexpensive ratios, I swoop in. And I started this thing on April the 1st. I separated out an account that I funded with $100,000. I don't pool the money. Everybody's account is separate, but that account is the model. And that way I'm able to track the performance. I'm able to track the dividends that come into it. I'm able to track every little nuance, the interest earned on the cash that we have sitting there, the interest earned on the money market fund that we have sitting in there, SNOX, S-N-O-X-X, which pays a little over 4% with our idle money. But I have found 23 stocks so far in that portfolio. When it's fully invested, I want to have about 40 stocks in there. Try to make it low volatility because I'm buying them when they're, from my perspective, relatively inexpensive. I'm spreading it out a little bit more. And I would just imagine by the nature of the beast that there's going to be more long-term capital gains in that portfolio, which could really help over the long haul. So I am really – that portfolio is growing. We're getting a lot of new accounts. We're putting money into that strategy. You know, I have found that dividend-paying stocks, there's just not a lot of inefficiency there. Everybody is playing the dividend-paying stocks game, and that makes it a very efficient market. In other words, it's hard for me to find stocks that are relative values or underneath the surface, I would say, because by the time a company starts paying a dividend, it's been around a long time. And so, you know, I rarely find any real new finds. And so we've kind of steered towards the value, relative value area instead of the dividend area. And, you know, to buy a stock just because it pays to qualify for the portfolio, it has to have a dividend yield. It sounds like a good concept, but I would just have to say it's not easy finding inefficiencies in that aisle of the supermarket. Now, Marvell is a good case today of one we picked up recently, Marvell Technologies. I've said many times that in the semiconductor sector, you know I'm also not a fan of ETFs, A person that doesn't really know stocks is going to buy you the semiconductor ETF, which has all the semiconductor stocks in it. But there's some really bad semiconductor companies in there. You know, there's probably 40 or 50 stocks in the semiconductor sector, maybe more, maybe 100. But there's only a handful that are any good. It just makes more logical sense to me to go into the sector and identify the ones that have the performance, the management, the alpha, and the upside potential. And weed out the rest. Why do I want exposure to the duds in there? I would rather cherry-pick an ETF or an index. And I cherry-picked the semiconductor index. Obviously, NVIDIA is the dominant player in the semiconductor index. I'm going to say that Broadcom is probably number two. And then you're going to start to branch out a little bit. And Marvell. I would say Marvell as far as having AI exposure. And AMD. Those are probably the only four. And maybe ASM Lithography out of the Netherlands. Those are pretty much the semiconductor stocks that I think are the cream of the crop. So you can go out and you can buy an ETF that's going to charge you. I don't know what the semiconductor ETF charges. You can look up the expenses on SMH or SOX, probably a half a percent, maybe even 1%. And for that 1% management fee you're paying to the ETF company, they're just going out and buying the index. They're buying all the semiconductor stocks. And it's going to just water down, number one, your performance, in my opinion. by having 90 bad ones and five good ones. Why not just own the five good ones? And why pay them a fee for creating this index for you? It's really not managed. The semiconductor ETF index is not managed. It's an index. They're not picking the best ones and just investing in those, but that's what I do. is I picked the best ones. Marvell is really catching my eye today. It is up 10% today. It got a big upgrade, and they're giving some updates on their AI endeavors, and that's one of the stocks that catches my eye. There's a couple others here that I wanted to mention too. besides Marvell and besides MP Materials, Oscar Health. Okay, Oscar, I got back into that with the relative value fund because I looked at it and I said, you know, this sector is out of favor right now. UnitedHealthcare has just decimated the sector. And I just don't have much interest in the health insurers like Cigna and Humana and UnitedHealthcare. But Oscar is a little bit of a unique animal. It's got good management coming from the former CEO of Aetna, which was bought out by CVS. He came on board Oscar, and it also has ties. Whether you like the family that Trump's daughter is married to, you know who I'm talking about, his son-in-law. It's him and his brother that kind of started this company, Oscar Health. And look at that chart today. On a relative basis, When we bought it, it was trading at 15 times forward earnings. So it qualified for that relative value designation. And the Oscar's up 7.3% today. 7.3% and a very good chart. And one other one I'll mention here is Embraer, which I also own in the relative value fund. Embraer dropped down to 38 there recently during the whole tariff thing. Embraer is headquartered in Brazil. But Embraer builds all of the aircraft that are the commuter aircraft, you know, that if you're going to a city that's underserved, you're not going to get on a big Airbus or a big... 737 Boeing you're going to probably get on an Embraer commuter type of jet ERJ they had a very successful Paris air show it's still trading at a fairly reasonable multiple of 17 18 forward earnings they've been growing recently by you know 17 to 20 percent somewhere in there and Embraer is having a nice breakout today it's up four percent they got a big order That's coming up as I go through my news items here. I think 40 planes or something like that from Frontier Airlines, I want to say. Well, we'll have that in a minute. Now, in the cybersecurity area, I want to mention my favorites there, and then I want to mention a biotech that says if you combine Lilly's drug with their drug, You won't have the loss of muscle mass along with you. You'll have quality weight loss, if there is such a thing, instead of muscle mass weight loss along with your fat weight loss. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. We're headed home later today from the Sarasota Lakewood Ranch area. And next up on the calendar will be Michigan, Detroit, and the out there in the suburbs. I'm trying to think of the name right now. Great area. We really love visiting Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, and the good folks back there. It's always good to hear the state of the auto industry when we're back there. And, of course, the Detroit Red Wings, and they've got a pretty good little baseball team these days. The Tigers under A.J. Hinch. who has a lot of Padre connections, San Diego Padre connections. So we look forward to that trip. We'll have the date probably by early next week, but we're looking sometime mid to late July for our next trip. Okay, now, the cybersecurity stocks, I like CrowdStrike still. Palantir and CrowdStrike are probably, in my opinion, the two dominant players. Needham also likes CyberArk. You know what? I've watched CyberArk. And Varonis, VRNS, I've watched that a little bit. To me, they're second tier. And Zscaler is another one. To me, it's a second tier company. I think the big dominant ones. Palo Alto, a little disappointing lately. I still think that it's a crowd strike. And Palantir are the two biggest and best companies. And you can buy, there's a lot of cybersecurity ETFs. There's BUG, B-U-G, and I don't know, several others out there that cover that. But you're getting all of them, and you're watering down the returns. of the really good ones, in my opinion, by buying an ETF on that sector. Okay, Scholar Rock. I don't know why they named the biotech Scholar Rock, but that's the name of it, S-R-R-K. And it's the one that says they've done tests, they've got some drug that they add to the ZepBound And you get a higher quality weight loss that does not include losing your lean body mass, which has been one of the negatives on both Zepbound and Wagovi. Scholar Rock is up 14.8% today. 14.8% today on that news. Alibaba, we talked about China coming up with another deep-seek-like company called Minimax. If you want exposure to Minimax, you can't get exposure to deep-seek. It's a private company. But Minimax is backed by Alibaba, B-A-B-A. And on a relative basis, I mean, you could definitely make an argument that most of your big Chinese tech companies, Alibaba, for instance, has a PE ratio of 13 right now. It has a forward PE ratio of about 11. And it does have exposure to this mini-max, which is said to be right up there in potency with our AI, open AI, and also with the deep seek, which upset the whole market here earlier this year. The state of the bond market, Under Armour prices $400 million, 7.25%. until 2030 so if you want five years seven and a quarter percent and if Under Armour remains in business and is able to pay back your bond at the end of the term seven and a quarter percent is elevated and that tells you that you know Under Armour is struggling these days as is Nike but that's I look at all these bond offerings. We have some people that they're happy with that, okay? They can own 10 bonds that are yielding in the 5.5 to 6.5 range. They've done really well this year, by the way, those bond funds. That's your safe money, and it's liquid. It's not like you're paying a big commission to get in. There's no commission to buy those. We charge a management fee to manage that bond portfolio. You get the yield, and, of course, if interest rates go down, the value of your bonds goes up. So it's been a pretty good performer as far as our alternative investment in something very, very safe. from our point of view axon scottsdale headquarters boy they're causing a little bit of a feud over there they want to build they have a giant campus axon is the old taser you realize that's a really good stock by the way they never changed their uh yeah they did change their symbol or did that yes they changed the symbol it was taser t-a-s-r And now it's Axon, A-X-O-N, headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona. But they want to add 1,900 apartments to their headquarters. It would be the city's largest ever housing project. Well, they wouldn't have much trouble amongst the tenants. I mean, if they're late on their rent, just tase them, you know. Hey, buddy, you're late on the rent. Pow. Guy's rolling on the floor. I mean, don't tase me, bro. But anyways, they're having a big fight over there. Scottsdale, you know, look, they're anti-growth. They don't want all of a sudden a bunch of apartment buildings coming into a pretty upscale neighborhood. But anyways... That's what Axon is up to over there in the Scottsdale area. And by the way, that's a very good stock. Now, oh, I've got one minute. I won't be able to get to that story. I mentioned Marvell. SkyWest is the company that's buying 60 new Embraer aircraft, E-175s. And that stock is having a good day. There's a couple of companies reporting earnings here today. One that I find encouraging is, Nucor had a pretty good report. That's a steel stock, and that's a bellwether of the U.S. economy. And we have a big presence by Nucor in our neck of the woods in Charleston. We had Vance, J.D. Vance, out there not too long ago visiting. And that's encouraging to see Nucor up 3% today after a pretty good earnings report. Okay, we're out of time. I had someone ask me last night, Bill, if I want to learn about the market and what you do, what books do I read? Well, you know what? I have always said my newsletter, that's 100 pages every Saturday times 52. That probably in my book... is the best education you can get on the stock market because it comes straight from somebody who's in the trenches every single day and has refined their methodology over the years to try to do methods that are better than coming up with Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble and Kimberly-Clark and all of the rest. And also my big macro outlook, which takes a look at the M of the market, the market M. Get the newsletter, four free weeks of everything at GundersenCapital.com. And to have us manage your own money, interview us, 855-611-BEST. Set up an appointment, 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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That's right. And think about this. We're going to be in 4th of July here soon.
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I know. And we're going to be pre-recording those shows. It's going to be a blend, I think, Joe, because we knock ourselves out so that we can take a few days off and sleep in a little bit. But we've got some great shows that we've had from the past. So I think we'll do a blend. We've already got some things on schedule to record, but it's going to be a great week. And you and I are going to, I can't believe, in a way it's coming early for us because the 4th of July, I think it's on a Friday. So it'll be that week before. So that means our 4th of July starts a week from Monday, if you can believe it.
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And it's being used as a cudgel to gain more and more control over our lives. And so your challenge will be to use the word cudgel in a sentence today. And Jody Henzey with Mint Financial Strategies, we normally talk to her on Monday mornings. She's really great at using the word of the day in a sentence. So that will be her challenge today. Jody Henze, the challenge is on. Our quote of the day is from Albert Einstein. And hold on here. I thought I had his short little bio up here. Instead, I put the quote of the day twice on my little outline here. He was born in 1879. He died in 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist who is best known for developing the theory of relativity. And he also made important contributions to quantum mechanics. And he said this. He said, the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. I thought that was very telling. So that is our quote of the day. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. I really appreciate them, and we'll be getting Susan Harris on the show here very, very soon. One of the first headlines is this whole thing going on with Iran and Israel. And this is from the Daily Caller. It says, Trump is mulling an Iran strike ahead of high-stakes Situation Room briefing as he says he knows where the Ayatollah is hiding. Now, I was looking at these headlines last night. I don't know if something has changed on that. I know that we're all on the edge of our seats. We really don't want to get involved in this war. It is a war now. So that's one of the important headlines. I did get a call from someone who's very much in the know. And he said this, he said, you're bound to be talking about Iran on your program sometime in the next few days. He says, one thing that's very important, most people don't even know anymore, up until the summer of 1978, Iran was a very strong ally of the United States. And it was in 1978 that everything changed. And my colleague said that he had a friend that was very involved over there. And he had told my friend personally that he had been called by Jimmy Carter. and to go tell the Shah to resign. And that's when everything changed. And so Jimmy Carter did a number of really terrible things, I think, from a public policy standpoint. And I remember a story about Iran that was one of their sporting teams. I want to say maybe there were soccer team and it was on an international stage and they did not do well and they basically disappeared. And it is a regime that is so heavy handed with their people. And so they not only want to be heavy handed with their people, they want to be heavy handed with the rest of the world and they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. And that's going to be a problem because clearly they do not want to coexist. And we got to figure out ways to be able to work together. Right, Joe?
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You're absolutely right. I think we should take the same idea that we did in World War II. We're not in it until we're brought into it.
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Well, I sure hope that we can get this done without us getting brought into it because war is a terrible thing. And anyone that has been in combat, they know it is something that we would like to avoid at all costs. However, it has to be peace through strength. I did find this really interesting, though, as I was delving into this a bit more because there's so many different headlines out there. This, again, is from the Daily Wire. And you probably know this, Joe, but it says a fake Israeli phone call triggered a meeting of Iranian leaders. Then Israel targeted the meeting location. And so this is the way that they were able to take out many of the top military leaders. So they're probably getting down to the Ayatollah at this particular point in time, right, Joe? I know you're watching this a little closer than I am.
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That's what I heard. I heard that they got a lot of the top brass as well as several nuclear scientists and a nuclear facility.
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That's pretty significant. And Trump had said that we – and the thing with the nuclear facility is they basically haven't been telling the truth. They've been saying that it's for nuclear energy when – It looks like they were, whatever you do with uranium, to get it to a point where it could be a nuclear bomb. And that's not okay to have the crazies like that have a nuclear bomb. So I know we're all on the edge of our seats. Is this World War III? We sure hope not. And boy, I would not like to be facing all the stuff that Donald Trump is right now. So we need to really be praying for him, for wisdom and discernment and for our world. And so that's really important. Next thing. I think that we should all really be concerned, and not that she's going to listen much, but the fact that Colorado Secretary of State has suspended access to the state election tracer site is – and they do this because of the shootings up in Minnesota. I'm not sure how I see that they're really connected, that you take down all of the information, all of the transparency about elections – I don't quite get it. And so I think they need to put that all back up. So that's one thing. And then also Karen Gorday was on the show on Monday. And she has written a very important piece. And it's at the Lakewood Informer. And you may say, well, I don't live in Lakewood, so why does this matter to me? It matters because they want to export this to other municipalities as well. And it's titled... sorry about that, zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. And each of you need to be informed on this. So again, it's a very important piece by Karen Gorday. Check that out at the Lakewood Informer. These discussions are so important so that we look at these from a reasoned standpoint and understand what's going on, talk with our neighbors, persuade them to continue to want to reclaim our liberty, our responsible exercise of freedom. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team understands there are unknowns that can keep you up at night. That is why Roger Mangan can also help with life insurance and health insurance needs to replace lost income. So call Roger Mangan at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan's insurance team is there.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I did want to mention Mint Financial Strategies because you may want more freedom and confidence with your money. And Mint Financial Strategies can help. They're an independent firm with over 25 years of experience. And as an accredited investment fiduciary, they put your best interests first, always. With a strategy-first approach, they'll help you build a plan. that fits your life. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That number is 303-285-3080. Pleased to have on the line with me Dave Evans. He is a listener of the show and he volunteered to join us as a board member the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And I think all of my board members will agree what a gem he is. We are so thrilled to have him join us. And he's on the line. Dave Evans, welcome.
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Well, good morning, Kim, and thank you. I'm flattered with the compliments you're giving me.
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Well, it's been really impressive with you coming on the board. And I do want to give a quick shout out to our fellow board members, Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, you. dave evans uh corey on his org paula beard and ray beard and this is a really amazing group of all volunteers that have spent significant time throughout the legislative session taking a look at bills we had there was 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced just this legislative session and our team took positions on 261 of them And really the things we look at is protecting the taxpayer, protecting TABOR, which is Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, property rights, school choice, elections. We do look at things on elections. So very important. And we'd love to have people join us. It's only $25 a year, $2.08 a month, which is less than a Starbucks coffee, a little bit more than a McDonald's coffee. But you will be informed, and it's a great tool in your toolbox. So Dave Evans, with all that, you had taken a look at some of this legislation that set up patronage boards. So explain what a patronage board is to our listeners.
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Well, that's a term that I use. Patronage is a political system of appointments. And government has expanded so much that it's become a practical necessity that these boards have been set up in order to govern all the various concerns that they have. It would just simply be impractical to have elected persons on these boards. And so in this case, most of these governing boards are appointed either by the governor or in some cases by the various agencies of the state government.
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And they're unelected and they're not accountable to the people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. They're not accountable to the citizens. Plus, most of them are unpaid, which sounds great. And I think most of them have altruistic motivations. But there is still in all a risk of corruption because, you know, each one of these comes from their own specialized area of the economy. And, you know, they're vulnerable to temptations. of that sort of thing. But of the bills that we reviewed, I counted 18 that were about boards, councils, or enterprises. Wow. Yeah. Eleven of these bills set up new boards. All of these were opposed by cut. Three of the bills extended boards that would have otherwise been sunset. Three of the bills expanded boards that were already existing, one of which was extended by, that was supposed to be sunset. One of the boards was a just in case of federal cutbacks act that gives unelected DORA, the Department of Regulations, authority to make rules about health insurance coverage. And one of the bills, H.R. 1027, actually ended a board. and that was the governor's expert emergency epidemic response committee. It actually passed and was signed into law, although unfortunately it does nothing to limit the governor's power in emergencies, which in my opinion was kind of abused.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, okay. Go ahead. No, continue on. This is amazing analysis that you've done on this, Dave.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Estimated budgetary impact of the enacted bills, and this comes from the legislative estimates, $27 million per year with a negative impact to TABOR of $5 million. And by that I mean it would reduce TABOR refunds by $5 million. These numbers rely on $2 million in federal funding. And I have to wonder if that's a good assumption. Many of these bills rely on gifts, grants, and donations. So the costs may actually go higher. Not necessarily in this year because the boards were formed on the basis that the gifts, grants, and donations would be sufficient. But in future years, if those donations dwindle off, The taxpayers are likely going to be on the hook for those. So out of the 18 that we reviewed, 12 of the bills were passed. And I wanted to go over one of them in a little bit more detail. And that's 1198, House Bill 1198, entitled Regional Planning Roundtable Commission. This sets up a 15-member board in the Department of Local Affairs. Its objective is to assist local governments with statutory housing, land use, and other planning requirements. In other words, it helps the local government write rules and it helps them understand the rules that have been imposed from the state. The members in this case are appointed by state agencies. The board members are not compensated, and the board is expected to raise the funding through gifts, grants, and donations to pay for a state employee, plus whatever expenses the board might have. Their objectives, land use planning at local level, emphasizing environment, climate, affordable housing, access to public facilities and services. Cut's view is that this is a state intrusion into local government and private enterprise business and we don't believe that we need to spend $85,000 a year and one new full time equivalent employee to oversee and coordinate things that are under local jurisdiction. Additionally, The bill makes the board subject to, or rather the grants and donations make the board subject to influence. And the board objectives are clearly geared towards pushing things like 15 minutes, cities, public transit, and subsidized housing. And these are all things that we conservatives disagree with. And most of these boards are very much pushing left agenda items.
SPEAKER 13 :
You've really connected an important dot, and that is having this 1198 and the gifts, grants, and donations. What that means is that you've got a governmental entity. Of course, now it's a board, so it's not accountable directly to the people. And then you have special interests that can come in and fund it. What could go wrong with that picture, Dave Evans?
SPEAKER 10 :
yeah that's my worry me too well dave evans your final thought on all this and again you do great analysis and we're so pleased to have you as a member of the colorado union of taxpayers board well thank you very much kim um my final thoughts are um citizens need to be alert to this stuff and uh and uh raise raise issues with this and and um And then after these boards are enacted, keep tabs on what they're doing and make sure that people are aware of that stuff outside of your area of influence.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and that's why being a member of CUT, I think having CUT in your toolbox to be informed is one of the first steps on all that. And again, people can join us, Dave, at coloradotaxpayer.org. That's coloradotaxpayer.org. Dave Evans, thank you so much. And we're going to be working on our ratings report. We're in the process. And that's a lot of time and effort as well. But we are just really pleased to have you on the board. And I thank everyone for all of their hard work.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thanks, and thank you for allowing me on the radio show.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, speaking of electricity, my phone died. We're on now. How are you?
SPEAKER 13 :
That's good. That's good. So first thing, IPAC-EDU.org, which you founded, it was during the whole COVID thing when you founded IPAC-EDU. And it is for people that are intellectually curious. And you offer these great classes with amazing instructors at a reasonable price. So just bring us up to date about IPAC-EDU before we get into this Bethesda declaration.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we teach courses on topics that, you know, for advanced learning for adults may never have a chance to enter college formally. So you can have the learning experience at that level. So you can empower yourself to handle the issues that matter to you today. We choose our courses and our instructors to make sure that the topics that are taught are relevant to issues that matter to us. For instance, you know, we have a workshop this summer on... informed consent, medical rights, and human rights. You know, I was just doing a little bit of research for a project. Under what conditions can the doctor overrule your choice to accept or deny a medical procedure or medicine? And it's scary. There are four or five different ways that a doctor can say that you are not competent. not just because of, you know, mental disability or things like that, but also because, you know, you can't state the benefits and the risks on the doctor's terms and then say that you've made up your mind. Well, you know, people often go to the doctor. They want to make their decision. They want to make their doctor understand. I really don't want all of this aluminum in my child in the first year of life or the first two years of life. Well, that doctor, according to the doctor, according to the doctrine of modern medicine, that's that's perfectly safe in vaccines to have so many doses, so many repeated doses of so much aluminum in vaccines. And yet we know that aluminum is neurotoxic. And so patients that actually engage with the doctor and say, hey, you know what, I'm going to explain to you why. And then he can put in his nose, this patient does not understand current medical consensus. Even though consensus is wrong, even though you might win the argument with your doctor, they might be able to overrule. So we really have to educate each other on these facts and how to act accordingly and which threads to pull on when it comes to medical freedom. But things like genetic testing, all the things that you might imagine, that big medicine might want to do to you about how do you, if you're engaging with genetic testing, what kind of testing is most helpful to you? And I don't mean which brand. I mean, what are they going to do with the information? So we're really looking under the hood of how big medicine and science works. And we're teaching the public on things like how to read and interpret scientific studies, immunology. You know, we just have a wonderful community wonderful collection of courses. And they last anywhere from, you know, eight weeks to 18 weeks. My biology of cancer course runs for, I think, 22 weeks. It's the longest one.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. And what's that website, Dr. Jack?
SPEAKER 11 :
ipac-edu.org.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, IPAC-EDU.org, and that stands for Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. Let's get over here. You've been writing a lot, and people can find you at Substack under Popular Rationalism. But one of these articles that you recently had published back June 9th, was regarding, it says a rebuttal, it says reclaiming science, a rebuttal to the Bethesda Declaration and a defense of reform. And so bring us up to speed on this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. So a collection of anonymous people that say that they're working at the NIH decided to take on the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., And Jay Bhattacharya, who's the director of the NIH, Robert Kennedy Jr. is the secretary of Department of Health and Human Services. They claim that the way that they're approaching running HHS and running NIH is dismantling science. What they really mean is that the revenue streams that they're used to to do what they call science are being disrupted. Now, in terms of downsizing the government, in terms of, you know, taking people out that didn't show up to work, you know, but one day a month didn't do their jobs, really just didn't care because it's very difficult to get anyone removed from the big administrative government. And they were literally parasites on the federal budget. Those people are gone and they're not going to be coming back. The people that are speaking out, I think, are afraid that the games that were played to go along to get along in the NIH, which means don't ask tough questions, take shortcuts on ethics like Fauci and Collins, with Collins being the former NIH director, specifically coming out, for example, and saying that, well, we don't need to have all three phases of studies for the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Let's combine phase two and phase three. And then a week later saying that we're not taking shortcuts. So the fact that they were saying that they're not taking shortcuts means that cutting out the middle step where you actually learn the list of adverse events from the vaccines that are confirmed in the third step was not taking a shortcut. And so imagine that multiplied all across medicine now with this culture of, well, it's good enough for government work. And that's really what's happening here. So they claim that, you know, guys like Bhattacharya, Jay Bhattacharya, who was a Stanford professor. Epidemiology, he created the Great Barrington Declaration that got everybody talking about maybe we shouldn't vaccinate everyone, just the people that are at highest risk. It's called risk stratified vaccination. They're accusing him of injecting politics into science, when in reality, we've been fighting against the politics in science. You know, science is so politicized that people in different countries aisles of you know different allegiances with political party you can predict how they're going to interpret a study i mean this is ridiculous what our job is to depoliticize science and we're going to continue doing that we we're we're taking science out of the realm of politics and vice versa there's a divorce going on and yet you know all of human endeavor there are some philosophers who say all human endeavor is political But science was a formal set of procedures that was established and set up by Western civilization mostly, specifically so that we can learn when we're learning properly and learn when we're fooling ourselves. And it's like to say, okay, well, we're actually going to have a political argument about how you're going to do brain surgery. It's ridiculous to politicize science and it's dangerous to do that. If you start replacing the rules of science with all of the tricks of the trade of politics, then it's like we're all on this huge airplane flying through this high tech age and no one's at the helm. There's no pilot. This article takes down their arguments point by point. That's a lot of what we do with popular rationalism. We state their arguments and we counter them and say no. the evidence does not support their claims about what's actually happening.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and you do. You take it point by point. The first, as you've just talked about, the myth of political interference when politics already captured the science. And so this next one that you have, let's actually go to break and we'll come back and go through the next one. The peer review crisis, a broken process, not a sacred tradition. And very important that we have these discussions. And it happens because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Pleased to have on the line with me scientist Dr. James Lyons-Weiler. He is the founder of IPAC-EDU, which you can find more information about IPAC-EDU.org and their courses. You can find that at their website. And again, great courses for people that are intellectually curious. Dr. Jack, we're talking about your article at popularrationalismatsubstack.com. And we're talking about this Bethesda Declaration, which I first and foremost find it really interesting that it is anonymous. I feel like if you're going to say something, put your name on it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that's perfect. fair fair game there was a group in in cdc during the dark ages when pharma ran the cdc they called themselves spider uh and they they let people know like robert kennedy jr and myself and others that they were there that they were trying to change the system from within but that they actually you know they put their head up from their desk their head would be chopped off okay and and This is how Fauci operated. He could reach anybody at any university. If you're a young assistant professor during Ebola and you write a paper that says, hey, wait a minute, wastewater treatment for Ebola is not going to work because PCR has nonspecific binding, the primers in the PCR, and you're going to overestimate Ebola. Your university, probably the research office, not your department chair, but maybe the dean of your division, you know, if you're the dean of the School of Medicine, might get a phone call from Anthony Fauci himself saying, you got to get this lion's wire creep under control or you're going to lose all your NIH funding. All of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I hadn't thought about it that way. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point. They weaponized it. I mean, when I went on a radio interview, I was no longer with the University of Pittsburgh. I went on a radio interview. in the Pittsburgh area, in the region. I think it was on a Friday with Hank Bauman. He was a great guy, a great radio host. And we were asked some tough questions about the Allegheny County Board of Health and HPV vaccine mandate. A week later, a surprise announcement that Paul Lafitte from Children's Hospital Philadelphia was coming to the University of Pittsburgh and was going to be given an award. So this is what they do. It's all theater. And then he was coming to find out, who is this guy? Is he still affiliated? What can we do about it? Wait a minute. Hang on. You've got the tendrils of pharma not just doing that, but you also have the 17 members of ACIP. If you want to understand what's going on with the 17 members of ACIP that Bobby fired, these dismissed people are analyzed in exquisite detail at popularrationalism.com with all of the conflicts of interest. Every single one of them have conflicts of interest, some of them with four or five, six different vaccine makers. How in the world could they say, turn around now and say that Bobby is doing something other than putting science back into the process of evaluating vaccines if it wasn't science before, right? If it was marketing, if it was literally like a marketing department for vaccine manufacturers, they would rubber stamp the vaccines. They would talk about safety after the vote. to approve it for recommendation. And then they would never question each other or challenge each other's vaccines because, you know, how dare you question my vaccine? I'm going to turn around and have my guy back question yours.
SPEAKER 13 :
Interesting. What does ASIP stand for, Dr. Jack?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. This is the one that's in many states. If you hear that a state has a vaccine mandate for school, many states have passed laws that If ACIP recommends it for children in general, then in a given state, like New York State or California, then it becomes a mandatory vaccine, perhaps without exemptions, to attend school. So when this committee approves of a new vaccine for the childhood schedule, they have the de facto power of writing new law by decree. That's how powerful this committee was.
SPEAKER 13 :
So no wonder they're a little frustrated with what RFK Jr. is doing. So let's go over here to this next point in your article, a rebuttal to the Bethesda Declaration and a defense of reform regarding the peer review crisis.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so listen, when I was a young assistant professor, I created a journal, Cancer Informatics. All of the cancer centers... in the United States and cancer researchers around the world were figuring out at the time how to use all this massive amount of information that more powerful computers could allow us to handle per unit time. And so this field of informatics came about. I helped create the field of bioinformatics as a graduate student. And so, you know, I recognized that there was a value to bring all of these different areas, like pathology informatics and medical, sorry, bioinformatics, cancer informatics, all of it under one umbrella journal, so that if somebody working in radiology informatics found a solution, it could be helpful for somebody, say, in nursing informatics, that they could talk to each other and they could learn, right? And you don't ever see this in medicine. Well, this journal was so successful that the NCI director at the time, Andy von Eschenbach, brought me up on stage at a National Cancer Institute's meeting with all the cancer centers, and basically announced that they should build a statue in front of the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute to me because of this journal. And this pissed off my supervisor, my immediate supervisor so much. He targeted me for the next two years for removal from the University of Pittsburgh. Just spite, just jealous. He's one of these creatures that has too many elbows. Well, anyway, one of the things that I did in that journal was I made sure that the peer review was independent. that if somebody wrote a paper and the journal sent it out for peer review, that the person who was reviewing that paper had conducted no collaborations with the authors of those papers in the last five years. It's truly independent. Well, that's fair enough. There are hundreds and hundreds of people doing cancer research, thousands of people. Surely we can find someone that is expert in the field. Well, it's the same thing in immunology. It's the same thing in internal medicine. Anything like this, we can have independent peer review. The problem with HHS is they, as far as we can tell, conducted zero peer review whatsoever, certainly not independent, on things that were published by the scientists that worked for the government. So they would publish, say, in Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, whatever narrative they wanted to publish. It was basically... opinion backed by data, but that's not science. Science requires independent assessment. You have to be able to challenge the assertions of somebody that says, I'm a scientist, I found this, what do you think? And if you can't challenge it, then I don't even recognize it as science. It falls outside, it's demarcated away. But yeah, peer review is supposed to be a sacred process by which we, you know, harden our steel in the fire right instead it's back scratching cronyism you you give me a good review on your grant i'll give you mine uh let's not worry about reproducibility is this new i only want to look at things that are new because we already have one study in that well we don't need one study we need actually like six or seven or eight studies on something And so people can weaponize all of this. They can say, well, it's not that new. There's already five studies. Knowing that you need eight or nine or 12 for a meta-analysis, for a summary, for a systematic review, and they can kill a paradigm within science by abusing the peer review process. And then, of course, well, that's not how it's done. This argument that, well, we've never done this before in science stops innovation. So peer review is actually backwards. And It's supposed to be a sacred tradition, but it's treated by these people as something that, oh, wait a minute, we don't want anybody else looking at our stuff. We're the cool kids in the club, you know, no girls allowed kind of mentality because we want to do things the way that we always have. And that's over. The good news is because Bobby Kennedy is the director of HHS, because Jay Bhattacharya is the director of the NIH, because – Dr. Macri is the director of the FDA, and Oz is in charge of CMS. The era of narrative enforcement is now over. And one thing I wanted to say to your listeners is you'll also find a stunning announcement by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reported on popular rationalism at Substack that no news article, no mainstream media, no legacy media reported But it really should take the breath away of every patient, every doctor, every administrator, every person involved in medicine in any way, especially across the governments and these agencies. Mr. Kennedy was on Fox News, and he said in response to one of the questions that we have an epidemic of immune dysregulation in the United States of America. That's the sitting secretary of Health and Human Services declaring an epidemic. of immune dysregulation, where our immune systems are broken and not a peep. Can you imagine, you know, if the former HHS director, Becca, came out and declared an epidemic and nobody believed?
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, that is amazing.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a bias entity we have to overcome big time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Hey, Dr. Jack, this has gone way too quickly. We only have a minute left. How do you want to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I hope everybody understands that, you know, we've created these courses for the public. Yeah, who wants to go to school in the summer, right? Nobody ever wanted to go to summer school. But we have a great time. We talk about current issues. You get to hang out with people that are similar-minded, similar interests, similar age group. Come on over to ipac-edu.org, find a course, sign up for it. If it doesn't run right away, it'll run in the fall. We're building this community of really well-educated and empowered American citizens that know how to speak truth to power. They know where they stand on the facts because they've been taught so well. It is recently learned, which is important for people of a certain age. But, yeah, the participants just love it. They love the community. They love the instructors. So come on over and hang out with us. Tim, you have one of our classes, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
I have. I've taken a couple, and it is truly amazing. And, again, that's ipac-edu.org. Dr. Jack, thank you so much. We'll get you scheduled for next month sometime.
SPEAKER 12 :
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We try to stay out of that whole personality-fighting stuff. Our word of the day is cudgel. And it's spelled C-U-D-G-E-L. It could be a short, heavy stick or a club. Number two, it could be a staff used in cudgel play, shorter than a quarter staff and wielded with one hand, hence any heavy stick used as a weapon. Or number three, a fight or a sportive contest with cudgels. And I had used it as I was working on something, kicking this idea around with my neighbors. regarding the climate change narrative has been used as a cudgel to control every aspect of our lives. And this is a good time to mention a climate conversation documentary. You can find that at aclimatconversation.org. You can watch it for free. It's been shown on Newsmax a bunch of times. It is the project of Walt Johnson, geophysicist. He just wanted to have a thoughtful, reasonable conversation about this whole climate change narrative. Hence, he took money out of his own retirement to fund this documentary. And people have said it's one of the best pieces that they've seen regarding this whole conversation. So, again, that's at climateconversation.com. We also have done a number of great podcasts with scientists and experts. And so if you really want to get your brain around that issue, a climate conversation is the place to do it because they've been using this climate change narrative as a cudgel to control everything from our light bulbs to our stoves to our cars to our transportation, all of it. And so that is why it's great to take a look at that. The movie there, the quote of the day is from Albert Einstein, and he was born in 1879. He died in 1955, and he was a German-born theoretical physicist who was best known for developing the theory of relativity. And he also made great contributions to quantum mechanics. And he said this. He said, the world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. And so that is why, first and foremost, we need to be informed about what is going on in our world. We need to – and it can be confusing. There can be a lot of chaos there. what is going on, all of the different headlines out there. But remember, our North Star is this vision of America, that all men are created equal with these, and when we say men, we mean human beings, all of us, all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so that's what we need to protect. The Constitution was put in place to keep government in its proper role. It's way out of its proper role. And I was thinking about all the debt. that we are incurring. We talk about the national debt on a regular basis and getting this national spending, this federal spending under control. Absolutely important. But my friends, we've got to roll up our sleeves on the local county, state level, these special districts. Yesterday when I was talking with Bob Boswell, who is the great sponsor of the show, CEO of Laramie Energy. And they are in the natural gas business out on the Western Slope. And we were talking about in this little town, Colburn, Colorado, they somehow talked themselves into voting to approve a bond for $70 million for a new school for, I think it was 250 students. And that works out to $280,000 per student. And that's not even hiring a teacher, not one teacher. And Laramie Energy, because of the taxes that they pay, the fees, not exactly sure on the accounting on that, contributes significantly to the revenue out there in that little community. However, they still are going to have – and then the state had said they're going to come in and pay for part of that school as well. And that's one of the things that I think people look at. They say, oh, we're going to get this free money – I have that in air quotes – free money over here. So let's go ahead and approve this bond, not thinking about what that would do to their property taxes. And then the other thing, the cudgel of the polis administrative state and what they're doing to try to – shut down or make it more difficult for oil natural gas producers and of course also coal they're trying to make it more difficult for all those producers if those businesses go away who's going to pay the taxes well that's going to come down on the backs of all of the farmers and ranchers and people in that community so we talk about the national debt Okay, that's a problem. But we've got to take a look at local and school district debt. And in last year's Voter's Guide, I took positions on a number of these different school districts and then was hoping that that could be a template for you if I didn't have your particular school district on the Voter's Guide to really understand why we need to be saying no to all of this new debt or extension of debt. And so not only at the national level, but at the local level as well, we are getting ourselves into a position where it will be very difficult. Well, what will happen is because of all these encumbrances that we, the property owners or the people of Colorado, have to pay off, means that we basically will be working, spending a lot of our time working to pay for government. So let's get government back in its own proper role. Two things I wanted to mention is, well, just very quickly, I want to run through the headlines from the first hour. And this whole thing with Iran and Israel certainly has us on the edge of our chairs, hoping that we're not into World War III, would really prefer the U.S. to stay out of it. And so anyway, it says Trump malls. This was from the Daily Caller. The Trump Mall's Iran strike ahead of a high-stakes situation room briefing, as he says he knows where the Ayatollah is hiding. So that is of some concern. We had a friend of mine who's a caller, and he had left a message that he knew personally that 1978 President Jimmy Carter, when I say knew personally, he had a friend who President Jimmy Carter knew. came in and said, hey, ask the Shah to resign. And up until 1978, Iran was much freer. It was much more prosperous. Everyday people were doing much better. Once that happened, the Ayatollahs came in. They became very heavy-handed with the people of Iran. And so Jimmy Carter was a big part of of now what's happening with iran iran is trying to get to a point where they purify purify uranium so that they they're getting into the levels of a nuclear weapons and that's why all of this action is taking part right now in the middle east next thing colorado secretary of state General Griswold and her office has suspended access to the state election site, which we want that information. They should not be taking down any of that information. They said this is in light of the shootings in Minnesota, which is very tragic. However, that doesn't mean because there's shootings in Minnesota that we take down transparency about our elections in Colorado. Connect that dot. Something does not connect with that dot. Then also wanted to mention Karen Gorday's article at the Lakewood Informer zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. Even if you don't live in Lakewood, you need to understand what's going on. And then lastly, I had not mentioned this in the first hour, but there was an AutoZone store that was totally ransacked in L.A. And when you look at the devastation, the job of the mayor and the police force is to protect people and property. They're clearly not doing that. So then the governor should be doing that. He clearly is not doing that. So Trump steps in. I don't like the idea of having federal stuff happening to be on the streets of our American cities. However... People need to be doing their job. Karen Bass needs to be doing her job as mayor of L.A. And Gavin Newsom needs to be doing his job as the governor of California. And when they don't, it gets us into this situation. And I don't like being in this situation. And I'm sure that Trent Luce will have some things to say about this as well. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team can create a personalized insurance plan to cover all your needs, from protection for your cars to your home, condo, boat, motorcycle, business, and don't forget renter's coverage. Contact the Roger Mangan team now at 303-795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan's team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. And wanted to say thank you to the Harris family. for their goal sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice on an independent station. That means we're not coerced by any media, corporate media out there. And I have full editorial control on subjects and guests, and that is because we are independent. On the line with me is sixth-generation farmer and rancher, lives in Nebraska, and that is Trent Luce. Trent, welcome to the show. Hello.
SPEAKER 12 :
And yet you bring me on, even though you're not forced to do so every week. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
That is true. The discussions are always robust, I would say. First thing, I thought I saw something that there was a huge tornado in the sand hills of Nebraska the other day.
SPEAKER 12 :
I am not home. I have not been home since Sunday, but. Kelly told me that there was 77 minutes of severe weather on the ground near Maxwell and in the south of North Platte area, just to give people a better idea. It must have been extremely severe, but I have not been able to monitor how bad the damage was.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. I grew up in Kansas. I have great respect for tornadoes. Of course, the Wizard of Oz. I totally respect all that. Seventy-seven minutes of severe weather does a tremendous amount of damage out on the plains. So next thing I wanted to get into, you sent this over, and that is that Trump is promising farmers that changes are coming to immigration crackdowns. So I know that there's been some real problems with that. So what's your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER 12 :
Since you and I started talking about this probably 30 days ago, the severity of it has just only grown. Last week, ICE went into several places, and I guess they still have a goal of more than 3,000 people a day that they want to round up. But this is rippling through. And the people that are legal, I'm just going to reemphasize something we've talked about. People that are here legally can prove that they're here legally are not showing up to work because they're scared. They are literally scared. And I happen to be in Montana this weekend. It's interesting. I come up here. And literally been here since Sunday, and I'm talking to people with the same exact experiences all over. And you see in that piece that they're going to continue to ramp up raids, like happened in an Omaha packing plant last week, and detained 76 people. And then Stephen Miller, who just within the last two weeks, I'm not sure what his role is in the Trump administration. He's certainly somebody. He had point blank said, and I could go find the exact quote when and where it was, that farmers shouldn't worry about labor problems. We're going to have everything automated and you'll have robots and AI will do it all. That is not going to take place in the agricultural world. We still need human ingenuity and intelligence to take care of the resources and get the job done.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we do. And let's see, he's a senior aide to Donald Trump. This is Stephen Miller and deputy chief of staff and Homeland Security advisor. But there really has been and there's been real pushback on what this is doing. And my understanding is, is they're reassessing this. the workers in the farming and ranching communities, hospitality communities. But we need to get to a point where we have legal immigration. We do want to get rid of, send back, first of all, all of the criminals to where they came from. We don't need to import criminals. We've got enough of our own. And then a guest worker program and was talking with someone the other day on the show regarding the Bracero program, which was after World War II. So we've got to get to a legal remedy to this whole thing, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree 100%. But the way that they're handling it is not going to achieve that, because what we're doing is scaring off people to show it up to work. And this didn't just happen. I think what frustrates me the most about the rhetoric, not only from Trump administration, but everybody who talks about this, they want to blame Biden for everything. Biden was a zero. Well, I like to do that, too. Yeah. But, Kim, there were 12 million illegal people in this country when Donald Trump was president last time. And that didn't happen on his watch. It's been happening for a long period of time. And all of a sudden now it all just happened during this Biden 12 year period or excuse me, four year period that that we went from 12 million to whatever it was. And that was because it was in our face. We were told we're giving them money. We were giving them money. We're paying. They're giving them cell phones. We're creating hotels and we're turning beautiful hotels into warehousing the illegals. All of that is absolutely wrong. But it didn't just start with Biden. It's been a problem for quite some time.
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Well, I agree with that. And the strategy, I think – and again, it's happened under both Republican and Democrat administrations. And I've heard that those previous administrations, that the Chamber of Commerce had put pressure on them and typically – The prevailing opinion, anyway, is that the Chamber of Commerce would lean more Republican, but yet they put pressure on politicians and bureaucrats, and they would be the interested party, to wink-wink the other way on these $12 million that had come in because it was providing cheap labor for businesses. and undercutting the American worker, but then you can take that thread and you can move that to a point where you get that labor has become so expensive in the United States because of maybe union policies, taxes fees out here in colorado we've got the family leave thing the the costs of that and so there's been things that have made labor so expensive so it's it's a it's a web that as i agree it's been woven for a long time but you go from 12 million estimates are 18 30 million after biden another 18 million coming in in four years That changes population, which then could change the makeup of voting for congressional seats. All of it, it's a web that has really been created, and I would say from both sides of the aisle, for a number of years, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
This in no way, shape, or form should change voting because those people are not eligible to vote.
SPEAKER 13 :
But they're using population numbers is the problem.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. They're not. I don't know what that means.
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, so the House of Representatives in Congress, that is apportioned regarding population.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, you can't count illegals in the reapportionment for House districts. But I think they don't. But that's not legal. That's not constitutional to do that.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's not. But I think that it's occurring now.
SPEAKER 12 :
We've been gerrymandering districts for quite some time. But everybody, in my opinion, is trying to make this far too complicated. The fundamental problem is Americans who are legal citizens, too many of them are getting a payment instead of working. We've suddenly become whatever it takes to just get paid. We don't want to show up to work. I've been in three restaurants where I've had this discussion here in Deer Lodge, Montana, this week. In order to get somebody to come in every day that they're on the schedule and work and do their job, they're just pulling their hair out. These three restaurants that I've talked to, just because I've been getting into this conversation, I want to know, they can't get anybody to show up and do the work. Why are they not showing up to do the work? Because somebody is enabling them. If it's their parents... And it all stems back to me, to the federal government is subsidizing too many things in too many ways, which disincentivizes people to show up to work. Consequently, the employers turn to whoever they can find to come in and do the job. And, I mean, the one thing that has come to my attention better than ever is because I've had a fantastic dose of Montana history, which is the history of the United States. We have as... businesses and families that have been employing people since the beginning of time in this country have found a way to exploit labor. You don't need any better example, and nobody will even argue with you, that when the railroad, which the transcontinental railroad was built across this country, particularly through Nebraska, and the Golden Spike was put in Ogden, Utah, and even in this country, this part of Montana, south of Missoula, is just It was built by so many of the Chinese immigrants that came in and worked on that railroad. And nobody says that they were treated well. They weren't treated well. They were treated like subservient slaves. And we've got to find a solution to that. And paying people to do nothing is the problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
It also makes them pets instead of people. Because pets is you take care of everything, but you don't get to choose your dog food if you're a pet. And so we'll leave that out there. I can tell this is going to get more robust with Trent Luce. And so you want to stay tuned on this. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And one of the things out here... One of the things that the founders knew is that in order to have freedom or in order to have liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom, we needed to be able to protect those rights. And so that's why they put the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights. And that's why I'm so pleased that we have the discussions about our Second Amendment with the Second Syndicate.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I threw it out there twice and he didn't take my bait. So I'm just going to have to tell you, Kim, ask me why I'm in Montana.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I should have asked you. Hey, Trent, why are you in Montana?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, two things. Number one tonight, Carter County, Montana, Ekalaka. We're going to have a meeting. The Bureau of Land Management wants to inject CO2 into the ground, one of their flawed systems. So we've got a meeting tonight here in Ekalaka. I'm in Deer Lodge at the moment, and Deer Lodge fits into this discussion in a way that's really kind of canny. 1871, before Montana became a state, the first prison in Montana was built here in Deer Lodge. And a gentleman by the name of Frank Conley, who came from Maryland with his brother to Montana... in the 1860s. And he came here because he wanted to be a surveyor for the development of Yellowstone National Park, which I find interesting. But he ended up being a deputy sheriff in a local county. I'm in Powell County at the moment. And then they created this prison. And in 1871, again, I repeat, before Montana became a state, it was still a territory. And within 30 days of the prison being constructed, it was overpopulated. Can you imagine that in that period of time even? And it was overcrowded. So what Frank Conley did was he said, we're going to change this structure and we're going to bring these prisoners in. We're not just going to stick them in a cell and let them rot. We're going to take them to the community, the ones who have become the trustee status, and we're going to give them jobs. We're going to work them at the lumber mill. One of the remaining lumber mills in Montana is here in Deer Lodge. Sun Mountain logging. And there's a copper mill in Anaconda just down the road. And so these inmates started filling the jobs and contributing to building the economy in the area because everybody was talking about there's a shortage of workers. And so I find this interesting that before we even adopt statehood, we have the same fundamental problems and people saying what they're able to do. And then We had the railroads built, and that's where the Chinese individuals come into play and what happened with that whole scenario. This has been a problem from day one. There's really nothing new in any of this other than this legal and illegal migration into this country. We don't need reform on legal immigration issues. We just need to implement the laws. We need to enforce the laws that are on the books. Well, isn't that what Trump is trying to do, though? Trump is trying to do that in a way that is creating chaos instead of actually doing it. Number one, you shut down your border to make sure you're cramping down on it now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and he's done that. I had Chris Harris on, a retired border agent in the San Diego sector on Monday. And he said that, yes, Trump has really delivered regarding getting the border shut down.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good. I hope so.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Hey, next thing. You mentioned railroads. And I have not had this gentleman on for a long time, Burton Folsom. He is the author of a book called The Myth of the Robber Barons. And he says that it's a new look at the rise of big business in America. And so he goes through this and he talks about entrepreneurs and those that did not take government subsidies. And one of those was James J. Hill. who had built the railroad, whatever the one was, the Northern Railroad, maybe it was, he did not take any subsidies. And he was much more successful than the other railroads. And you're talking about bringing in this Chinese cheap labor to build the railroads. Bear in mind... that those railroads, those other railroads, were receiving significant government subsidies. So government had its hand in it back then as well, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
100%. I can draw every problem we have in today's society to people becoming complacent because government gives handouts. And that has become the lifeline of a government is to create dependency of its citizens instead of we exhibiting our independent liberties. I couldn't agree more.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Next thing, have we finished this? Because I have another thing that I'd like to, well, I actually have several different headlines that I had for you. But tomorrow we are going to have on a woman that lives in Elbert County, Colorado, regarding the transmission line corridors and Xcel Energy, threatening using eminent domain to take people's land. in Albert County, which I'm really concerned about. So we talked about eminent domain. And of course, Trent, with eminent domain, which should be used very, very seldom, but it's being abused, I think, with these transmission corridors and these CO2 pipelines as well. But I was talking with her about, with eminent domain, if the land is taken via eminent domain, that the person is supposed to be compensated, justly compensated for the land. So I think there's two components, and I thought a lot about this when I was on city council, is one, who determines just compensation, but number two, to take land via eminent domain and pay in... cash which is deflation the the value deflates so instead of you having your land which there's only a finite amount your paid cash and then of course government policy with inflation devalues the amount of the cash it does not seem like a fair trade to me your comments on that
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, again, I'm going to talk about history, and I'm guessing the lady you have joining you from Elbert County has a husband named Trent.
SPEAKER 13 :
She may. I don't know that I got that couple. This is Carrie Giblets that's going to be on tomorrow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no, I had the couple on last week. Yes. Excellent. So, again, I'm going to go back to where I'm at and what I've been focused on this week. When the railroad came through, what do you think the largest discussion and consternation was? Labor. The right-of-way taking the land and how are we going to be paid properly because you can't come in here and just take my land.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, nothing, nothing in today's world changes. It's just the dollars change, the people's names change, everything changes. But this... This transmission line thing, to me, is a big deal. And I've been paying more attention to where transmission lines are and how many transmission lines that we actually have. And if you look at what these transmission lines are doing, I now know people who are using the transmission line above them as a means of providing energy to their electric fences for their livestock. Usually, you have to have some sort of a either a solar or electric generated fencer to keep power to that particular electric fence that you use to fence in livestock. I know people who are just running their fence underneath the power line and they're tapping into energy that is spilling off of these transmission lines. If that's the case, what's that doing to the health and well-being of the individual people? And I know this is not addressing what you're what you brought up, because it is a big deal. I mean, the Fifth Amendment is all about public use. Is there a public use? And if there is, then you need to be justly compensated, fair market value. But we are using this eminent domain as a weapon, a weapon. And this is Xcel Energy that we're talking about here coming through the eastern plains of Colorado. I had people from every part of the country get a hold of me after my discussion on Friday about Elbert County and what was going on there, saying Xcel Energy did this to me and our family in Minnesota. I mean, there are cultures of companies that are looking out to be good citizens and good community members, and there are others that just want to come in and bully and say, well, we have the right to take that from you and we're going to do it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and they're using it.
SPEAKER 12 :
People need to stand up.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'll use our word of the day. They use that as a cudgel to do all of this nefarious thing. And big business and big government like each other, the agenda by the Polis administration and Xcel Energy has been more than happy to get in bed with each other on this particular issue. We're going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. All this happens because we have amazing sponsors. And one of those is John Bozen and Bozen Law. Give them a call if you've been injured.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And, in fact, yesterday I was at the memorial service for Battle of World War II, Iwo Jima veteran Don Whipple, an amazing man, an amazing Christian. Just I'm blessed to have gotten to know him in my life. And I got to know him through Paula Sarles and Cooper's Troopers and Grady Birdsong, all of them. And I'm so grateful for that. And that's one of the reasons why I totally support the USMC Memorial Foundation, because we must remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. That website to help them is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And then the Center for American Values located down in Pueblo on the Riverwalk, co-founded by Drew Dix. Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. Amazing. 56-hour battle. And Brad Padula, Emmy Award-winning documentary maker who's actually made a movie about that. Anyway, they founded the Center for American Values. And it's nonpartisan, nonpolitical, to focus on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. I have Sixth Generation Farmer and Rancher. Trent Luce on the line. He lives in Nebraska, but right now he's in Deer Lodge, Montana. And Trent, Gammy is chomping at the bit. She's got a couple of things she wants to say. Gammy, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, kids. How are y'all? Good. Hey, let me say something and then explain it. The narratives that are being used by the media, the newspapers, the television, all forms of media, I should say, are literally being used as cudgels to tamp down our voices. And I'm going to give you two examples, how you like them apples. Good deal. Number one, Lindell trial. Gentleman put a big op-ed in the paper, and he so misrepresented the trial. And it was a long op-ed. You know, they give them You know how it goes. If you're working for the right side, they'll give you lots of room. They didn't tell the truth about the case. They only got him for two issues out of 10. And really, the person that claims he was maligned is full of crap, a liar, a cheat, and a horrible human being who did all kinds of bad things. But they wouldn't allow evidence, just like with Tina Peters' court case. The evidence was suppressed by the judge's These judges made comments afterwards, like, say, to the jury, that should never have been allowed. It makes them all have cases for, you know, appeals. But these op-eds make all this noise, and people think it's the gospel when it's a cudgel, cudgel, cudgel, to just screw with your mind. A second one is the governor's energy policy that the editor's, of the paper put in their assessment of the governor's energy policy, all the good things, the bad, you know, solar, wind, et cetera, and all the future stuff. And what they don't tell is everything that Trent Luce tells us. Week after week after week all over the country. The lies about how dangerous the CO2 pipelines really are and emergency preparedness. People don't even know how to handle a disaster if it comes from that. But the big part is they're framing every op-ed, everything with narratives that support the Green New Deal, that support carbon footprint issues. assessments and needs to reduce the carbon. We're still talking garbage that is not even true based on not science. And so what Trent does, what you do, not only has to continue, Every listener out there needs to start going to their commissioners, their city council, their governing bodies in their communities and bringing, you know, the truth like the climate conversation movie. Everything needs to be put out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Gammy, thank you. And you are so well informed and you are so. fervent in your care for our next generation. And I thank you for your call in on that. We've got Ron on the line as well. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Kim. No one said this, but I watched Newsmax and Carl Hagsby, former Navy SEAL, made a comment about all these shootings, like this assassination, self-Democrat assassination from a Democrat, And all these other shooters were all Democrats. Ninety eight to ninety nine percent of these shootings have been from Democrats. You got the transsexuals. You have you have these school shootings. You have all this other stuff. And and he quoted it's like ninety eight.
SPEAKER 13 :
99 of them have been democrats wow that is and that's an important point because then also ron it is the radical activists that have taken over the democrat party that are putting through legislation that wants to make it more difficult particularly here in colorado for law-abiding citizens to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors. And so that's a great dot that you've connected on that, Ron. Thank you so much. Okay, Trent Luce, let's have you jump in here and get your comments on Gammy. And, oh, excuse me, Ron has one more thought here. Hold on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I try to say this. These people have to, I've listened to other stations, and everybody complains about how Trump's doing this and how Trump's doing that. The thing about it is if it gets hard, everybody seems to lose their sack. They just don't have what it takes. You've got to stay focused, and what the main focus is is to deport all these people, and then you work on the problems. But these people want to solve the problems before taking care of the problems. So people just have to stay on course.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and we've got to stay focused. And this is what the Trump administration says that it's doing, is it wants to focus on the criminals. And I think there's plenty of those to focus on. And it's messy right now. Trent, I know it's not perfect. And I understand that. I understand the challenges for labor, for our farmers and our ranchers and hospitality. First of all, we've got to get back to a work ethic that people will do jobs. I think there's some Americans that have been taught that they are above doing certain jobs. We've got to change that, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I agree 100 percent. And my main problem with Trump is what he is talking about and what his cabinet members are talking about that they're going to do isn't happening on the ground. And I can't speak to the border issue in terms of shutting that down because I haven't been there. But I am living the land use issues, the energy policy every day. And the rhetoric I hear coming out of D.C. does not match what's happening on the ground. That's my number one problem with that whole situation. But there's something else that Gammy brought up that is a big deal. And I've experienced that here in Deer Lodge, Montana, in terms of getting the truth and accurate history portrayed here. We talk about CO2 pipelines, and in the last week I've had so many people reiterate that, well, we've got pipelines all the time. Pipelines are safe. The safest form of transportation of these is not CO2. And finally this week I brought forth Jack Willingham, who is the Emergency Manage Coordinator for Yazoo County, Mississippi. One of the examples that we talk about in a CO2 pipeline rupture that occurred in Satarsha, Mississippi, He was on the scene. He was ground zero. He saw exactly what happened. And as a result of then him having a better understanding that these CO2 pipelines are not like natural gas. They're not like any other thing we've ever had in the ground. We've got to have a different level of training for those first responders. We're putting them out there at risk without giving them different equipment and different knowledge based on what they've had. And I've got to take my hat off to Jack Willingham and what he's doing in Mississippi And he's got now a mobile lab where he goes out and works with first responders because they do not have the information they need to be protected. And that's really what we're talking about. How do we protect the citizens who are trying to make life better for everybody else?
SPEAKER 13 :
OK, Trent, we've got less than a minute, but I'm going to say that, first of all, CO2 is nature's fertilizer and we should not be putting nature's fertilizer into the ground. And one of the ways to stop that is that we would put pressure on this administration to get rid of tax credits, tax incentives, all those kinds of things for CO2 pipelines. And I think the problem would go away. You got just about 20 seconds to respond.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, I just got to say that louder. If all tax credits would go away, most of the challenges that we talk about every day would just dissipate.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that's what we have to work towards. Trent Luce, there's other things I had on my list to talk with you about. So we'll have to try that next week.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will have the chance. Thanks, Kim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And thank you to Gammy and Ron for calling in as well. And Albert Einstein said this. He said, the only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America.
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Dr. Kevin Shuey shares his journey from a jukebox-filled childhood to becoming a renowned oncologist and celebrated author. With a unique blend of science fiction and historical accuracy, 'Bad Love Tigers' delights readers and critics alike. Angie Austin dives into Dr. Shuey's process of balancing his demanding career while pursuing creative endeavors, including his entrepreneurial efforts in skincare and his ongoing legacy in oncology.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey there, it's Angie Austin here with The Good News. And The Good News is Dr. Kevin Shuey is back. He is an entrepreneur. He is an inventor. He is a doctor, a cancer doctor, an oncologist. And also, he is an author. And we are talking about his new book, Bad Love Tigers, part of what he calls the Bad Love Gang. Welcome back, Dr. Shuey.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, Angie. It's so great to be with you today. I'm really excited to visit with you.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I have been going through, I've followed you since I interviewed you a few years back, and you've been all over the world, and you've been traveling all over the world to, interestingly enough, not practice as a doctor, which you do full-time. You've been going all over the world to get awards for your books and your screenplays. It's mind-blowing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so Bad Love Tigers that we're kind of talking about today has won over 400 international awards. I wish I could say that I traveled to 400 different destinations to accept all those, but the reality is I still work full-time as a radiation oncologist here in Indiana. Yeah, I try to go when I can, and otherwise, you know, the awards have just kept coming in. And even Bad Love Strikes, I've rewrote the screenplay to the first book last year, finishing just at the beginning of this year and started putting it on the circuit, and it's now winning awards. So it just won at Cannes. in France for best surprise ending. I mean, come on. I've never won that award before. I'm really excited about how this is working out.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, I just actually read that you won for Best Surprise Ending, and I saw you were in Cannes, and I was like, oh, did he win anything? Did he win anything? Because you do little movies or reels, you know, on your Instagram. And so I don't know at the beginning of the reel, and I'm like, come on, come on. I'm trying to click through faster, but you can't do that on your movies. I had to wait.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's so cool that you follow me on Instagram because I always put music, you know, because the books all have, the books and screenplays have soundtracks and it's all great music from the 60s and 70s. And so that's really fun. I always keep the Instagram folks in suspense for a little bit as it starts so that they don't see what I won right out of the gate. So you actually, yeah, you have to actually watch it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I see you were in my neck of the woods not long ago. I saw what I believed to be the Broadmoor in the background in Colorado Springs in the back of one of your photos and one of your film awards trips.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm so glad you mentioned that. So actually, The Broadmoor is featured in Bad Love Tigers, the screenplay and the book. And I have had a relationship with The Broadmoor for literally almost two decades. And I really hope that when this movie gets put together and on the screen that we actually do some shooting at the Broadmoor. And it's just so historic there. I love it. It's kind of mind blowing to me that people that live out in Colorado maybe haven't even been to the Broadmoor yet. I mean, you can just go and park there and walk around. It's like going to Austria and there you are in Colorado. So but anyway, I just love that place and the history of it. And hopefully that'll be part of the big screen production of this screenplay.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what else I think is really neat about the Broadmoor, on a side note, even though we're talking about your book, that Penrose, I believe, who was the big mucky muck at the Broadmoor, built a zoo up above the hotel. And the fact that it's become the only mountain zoo, I believe, if my understanding is correct, in the world – And that it has improved so much over the last few years. It is one of the best zoos I've ever been to. And a mountain zoo, I mean, you've really got to be in for some hiking because it is not straight terrain by any means. And it is phenomenal. It started as his little fun zoo.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo. And actually, you can pet the giraffes there and feed the giraffes lettuce there. And, you know, one of my if you look back on one of my Instagram posts.
SPEAKER 04 :
You'll see me feeding one of the giraffes over my shoulder, and the giraffe just stuck its nose right over my shoulder and grabbed the lettuce. It was a great pick. It wasn't really planned.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I saw that. It reminded me. I took my kids. They're teenagers now, but when they were toddlers, we used to go feed them. And if they lick your hair, it's quite a hairdo that you get when you're done because if you haven't been licked by a giraffe, I mean – It's definitely, you know, it's like a wet broom. You know, it's a big tongue.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a drenching experience.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. So as we start into you, you know, you bring an author, you mentioned your cancer doctor. Tell people what else you do as well. And then we're going to get into Bad Love Tigers because I think there's some neat things besides you, you know, going to these famous hotels like the Broadmoor. So tell us about you and your background.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, really, I'm a native of St. Louis, Missouri, and grew up in the 60s and early 70s. So the screenplays actually go back and forth from 1974, 1975 to World War II. And my dad served under MacArthur in the Philippines in World War II. And I And so we grew up with a jukebox in our basement. My dad at that time was a jukebox vendor in St. Louis County. And we had all the latest 45 RPMs that came out. I have two older sisters. and they would listen to all that music and dance um dance the night away and i would sit there and watch all that when i was a little boy and i was imprinted with this music brain from growing up that way and my oldest sister kathy she and i were just time travel fanatics we would watch any movie or tv show about time travel growing up and um You know, it was in November of 2018, Kathy was being treated for breast cancer, and I read this story of the Phantom Fortress, which was a B-17 bomber in World War II that landed at a British air base in Kortenberg, Belgium, and there was no one on the plane. I mean, and so I thought to myself, you know, time travelers could this was all documented, by the way, we would we would call it fake news. But, you know, your listeners can Google the Phantom Fortress. It is part of the history books of World War Two. and um and i thought to myself well time travelers could have been on that plane and zap back to the future before it landed and honestly um angie that was the that was the bolt of lightning that struck me and got me writing my first book and so um that's kind of how it all started now um you've got uh
SPEAKER 07 :
an interest in history, time travel, and writing, and then of course a doctor, but you kind of put this all together. I love that you take some, it's fiction, but you have some real history facts within there. In fact, President Roosevelt plays a big part in this book. I'm assuming you did a lot of research on him in addition to other history that's included in the book?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. You know, you talked about me traveling. So I spent some time in Warm Springs, Georgia, at the Little White House, which is where Roosevelt would go to take time out in the springs. You know, he either had Guillain-Barre syndrome or polio, but he didn't have much use of his lower extremities. But when he would go in those those mineral springs in warm springs georgia that was the best he felt and he literally built the little white house uh custom built that in warm springs i encourage all the listeners to to go there sometime because it's just a marvelous national historic um place and so yeah i I really, so I'm a radiation oncologist. I was really good in math and physics growing up and went to medical school and did a rotation in radiation and realized, oh, this is a natural fit for me. And when I started writing the time travel, I really brought my background in physics forward with the writing. And so there's been, there've been some pretty cool things that have happened along the way, specific with Bad Love Tigers, which we're visiting about. I don't know, Angie, if you remember this, but about a year ago, it could be two years ago, there's a decorated Afghanistan Air Force veteran named David Grush, And he worked for the National Reconnaissance Office on Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, otherwise known as UFOs. And he was a whistleblower in Congress that he's seen these crashes and actually has seen, quote unquote, UFO pilots. And so... That, coupled with the Oppenheimer movie coming out about two years ago about the Manhattan Project, just all so totally ties in with the story of Bad Love Tigers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I love it that you put some, you know, facts in there with the fiction. And I had been reading that that whistleblower said the government knows about these alien visitors and had covered it up. You know, there are some light night radio shows that people, you know, listen to. They're fascinated by this topic, but there's so much mystery surrounding it that it isn't something that's. On the main page of the newspaper, you know, it's all kind of covert when people talk about these things. So I love that you had a little bit about the whistleblower background when I was reading about the book. And you – when we talk about Bad Love Tigers, you mentioned your sister. The book is dedicated to your sister. Can you talk about – you know, how she influenced your writing, your story. And I know that you do put real people in your books. You, Kevin Bubblebutt Shuey, that's you. So I know you've got some real characters. Tell us about her influence and is she in any of your books?
SPEAKER 05 :
So actually both sisters. So I dedicated the first book, Bad Love Strikes, to my sister Kathy, who was going through breast cancer treatment at that time. For the listeners, she had actually a virulent form of breast cancer known as triple negative breast cancer, and it was stage three at diagnosis. And being a cancer doctor now for I'm starting my 39th year in the practice of cancer medicine, Angie, on July 1st and for all these years. So I really supervised and handpicked her medical team. And I'm happy to say that it's nearly eight years now and she's cancer free and cured.
SPEAKER 07 :
But hey, Doc, let's take a break and we'll come back because I want to hear more about your sisters and that dedication. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Welcome back to Good News. Continuing our discussion with Dr. Kevin Shuey. He's been on the program before. And if you are just joining us, we are speaking about the latest in his series of books, Bad Love Tigers. And we were talking about your sister, your sister who was being treated for breast cancer and how you oversaw that as you are an oncologist and an author. And you were talking about how each one of the sisters you've dedicated a book to. So go ahead and continue that train of thought.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so Kathy had to go through six months of chemotherapy and had double mastectomy with reconstruction. She was BRCA1 positive, so she was carrying the gene for breast cancer. And anyway, it was triple negative in stage three. But after chemotherapy and mastectomy, they could not find a single viable cancer cell. Thank goodness. Ever since that time and her reconstruction, she's been in remission and just doing great.
SPEAKER 07 :
It helps to have a brother in the oncology business, apparently.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think that it really did come in handy. And so the other sister, Denise, also proved to be BRCA1 positive. And so she had never been treated for breast cancer before. And so she did prophylactic mastectomy and reconstruction. And so both sisters have played a big role in my life. I started out earlier by talking about how they loved music as we were growing up. And so I got imprinted with this music brain of songs from the 60s and 70s, which are really fun. And For those folks out there that read the books, the Bad Love Tiger book, I tell them, tell Alexis to play You're So Vain by Carly Simon, because I call the songs out as they appear in the book, and it makes it a more immersive experience. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I like that you have that link to the song so that it is like a soundtrack to the book, which, of course, puts you in a perfect position to be turning these books into screenplays. And if you didn't hear at the beginning, over 400 awards, was that just for this book or was that for the last one?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that's just for Bad Love Tigers, and so Bad Love Strikes is now out there winning, including the latest one, as you saw, the press release for the Cannes Script Festival with the best twist ending. And, you know... all of the books and the screenplays are full of action. They're really crossing genres, Angie. I mean, they're historic fiction with a twist of science fiction and then action adventure. It's kind of like, you know, I would say Teenage Goonies meets Raiders of the Lost Ark. It would be our, you know... Back to the Future thrown in there as well, and maybe Stand By Me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm really excited for them to be made into movies, and it seems inevitable with all the awards that you're getting. And just on a side note, if you don't mind my mentioning that books aren't the first thing you've written. I understand that every year you write a skit for cancer survivors since you are a doctor and you're treating so many cancer patients that you put on with the other doctors. That's hilarious. Could you tell us a little bit about that? I mean, I know you're not getting awards for that, but I love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it actually, I did that all the way up until COVID, but not since COVID, but I did that for about eight or nine years. And I would write a skit and the answer to the questions that the doctors would pose to each other, playing the roles of, you know, we did Guardians of the Galaxy one year.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so so they would ask the questions and the answers to the question would be clips from songs from the 60s, 70s and 80s. And then we would all dance and make fools of ourselves.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 05 :
In front of a thousand people. And, you know, the patients really love that. They love to see that their doctors are just regular people and, you know, regular flesh and blood and out there having fun. So it really was an amazing run to have done that. But you're right. That was more the genesis of my writing than even my books.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is so funny. I could see that they would love it. And you must work with a great bunch of doctors for them to play along with your shenanigans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. And and, you know, they're they're not going to do it unless they're actually willing to. We can't exactly hog tie them and make them do it. So they have to have a little bit of be a little less than shy, let's say.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, you mentioned your award at Cannes, which is one of the more recent ones. And, you know, we'll give you the info to follow Dr. Shui on social media. But when I looked at all the different places you went, including France, to receive these awards, and I know you haven't gone to every location for the over 400 awards just for this book. How do you balance that with your medical career? And then I know you're quite an entrepreneur, so you're going to tell us about your other businesses as well, but you're pretty busy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you know, it's better than the alternative. Yeah. The alternative would be to be bored. I don't know, Angie. I think that God blessed me with a high energy level, and so I really do stay busy. I mean, I write at night and on weekends, and whenever I get a spare chance, if I'm on a plane, I'm usually writing or jotting down or recording ideas. And So I think it has to do kind of with the way that I'm genetically wired. And my parents both lived into their 90s. And really, my sisters and I, we look back at my parents' lives, and they were really very active until they were 85. And it really was about 85 when they slowed down. And so I just don't really have any plans to slow down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Does your family get to see you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I saw them on some of the trips. Is that beautiful blonde one of your daughters?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah, that's Ashley. She lives out in the Beaver Creek Vale area.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, not far from me.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the other daughter lives in Laguna, California.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's like my dream place to retire.
SPEAKER 05 :
And one of the sisters in Charlotte, Virginia, and the other in Colorado Springs. And so we're scattered about, but we do get together, absolutely. And so life is good.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is good for you. Explain what you do as an entrepreneur. Tell us about your other businesses because it's hard to believe you could do anything else. And again, you've got to follow us on social media. It's fun just to kind of live vicariously through what you're doing now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I did start Elite Therapeutics, which is a skin care company. And I'm a big believer in vitamin E. And so, um, you know, vitamin E is a scavengers, a free radical formation. And so, um, and it has hyaluronic acid, which draws, um, water into the tissues and, um, All the antioxidants. And so I got interested in that being a radiation oncologist for my breast cancer patients. I wanted them to have a good therapeutic vitamin E cream skin care to prevent radiation reactions. And that's how I got involved in that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's super cool. And is there anything else I'm afraid to ask?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, for a while I was involved in a green energy company called Biospace, but we actually closed that company about two years ago because we just couldn't seem to get it to gain enough traction with competing with the oil companies. I can imagine. Yeah. But that doesn't mean I'm not open to something like that in the future. So, yeah, I think with my books and screenplays right now, they really keep me in my full practice of medicine. That all keeps me plenty busy.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. I want to make sure we've got a few more minutes left, but I'm interested in the skin care line. So tell us how to find that and to find your books and your social media.
SPEAKER 05 :
Elite therapeutics dot com is the Web site for the skin care. And for the books, I have a website. And so it's www.kevinschewy.com. And it's spelled K-E-V-I-N-S-C-H-E-W-E. And it's really a fun website because there are – I'm sure you've looked at it. There are – uh, um, the, the clips of, um, each of the, each of the books, uh, has, you know, a little mini movie, um, or a book trailer, if you will. And those are really cool to watch and they're on the front page of the website. So www.kevinshuey.com and then real Kevin Shuey. Um, I'm at real Kevin Shuey on Instagram and on Tik TOK. And so I do my posting on Instagram, as you know, but I do also have a presence on TikTok.
SPEAKER 07 :
Excellent. Yeah, I follow you on Instagram. I haven't done the TikTok, but I know with my kids, it's extremely popular. You're getting up towards 100,000 followers. That's pretty cool. Is most of that through your books? Yes.
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You know, I think it's been organic through the books and the screenplays, you know, because of all the wins all over the world. I do, I have followers from probably just about every continent on the globe right now. And a lot of that has been from 400 international wins from the screenplay, which is just so hard to believe. I mean, I don't know. Sometimes I just have to pinch myself about that.
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Yeah, I mean, and it's not something that you start. I mean, you actually started writing the books, at least more seriously writing, you know, later on-ish in life.
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And you know, Angie, it's not like you know these people, and so therefore they like you and they choose your screenplay to win these awards. I don't know any of these people. I mean, these awards are winning because they really love the screenplay. And that's what keeps me motivated to find the right fit and team in Hollywood to make these movies, because Hollywood Um, that is my ultimate goal is to see these movies either as a Netflix series or to see them on the big screen one way or the other.
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And is that looking pretty promising?
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That will happen. Well, I do have a company that's shopping the screenplays to the studios out in Los Angeles and Hollywood. And, um, I get a lot of traffic on Inktip, which is another way to get your screenplays out to the international community to read them and to see if they're interested. And I even have a profile on IMBD, and that's the the database that Amazon actually started IMBD, and so I get traction there as well.
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Well, I have to tell you, Dr. Kevin Shuey, I just get such a kick out of having you on the show. You're invited back any time, and I love this review as we wrap things up. A mind-blowingly historically correct time travel adventure, and that's about bad love tigers. Thank you, friend. Can't wait to have you back on again, and congratulations on all your success with the book.
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Thanks, Angie. It's been so great visiting with you. Thanks so much. You bet.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
This week on The Flotline, Rick Hughes emphasizes the importance of having a solid spiritual foundation to face life’s trials with courage and faith. Rick explains how trusting God and understanding his divine provisions can transform the way we respond to adversities. With compelling scriptures and personal insights, this episode encourages listeners to see every challenge as an opportunity to deepen their faith and develop spiritual perseverance. Tune in for a transformative session that inspires a new joy in affliction.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm Rick Hughes, the host of the Flatline, heard every Sunday morning here on this local radio station. Thank you for listening. We always have about 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, And we never have any manipulation because we don't solicit money. We're not trying to sell anything. We're not trying to hustle funds. We simply want to give you accurate information. Hopefully that information will verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if I can do that, well, you have the privilege to orient and adjust to the plan. But the Flotline has been airing on these radio stations across the United States for 15 years now. This actually is show number 772. 772 Flotline shows I have produced from my studio here in Alabama. Thank you if you've listened to some of them. It's been my honor to bring them to you. And I pray that God the Holy Spirit has used them to encourage you, to give you information, to point you towards a well-qualified pastor. where you can begin to grow consistently and learn God's word every day of your life. Remember, all of these shows are transcribed and we have them available. I think I've told you before that we have the whole year of 2019 transcribed into three different volumes, and it's available free of charge. So that's quite a lot of reading, 52 radio shows transcribed into three different books. And we transcribe each and every show that we produce. And we have other material from our website, rickhughesministries.org. If you'd like to go there, you can see some of the material we have, especially the books on promises, the promises and principles found in the Word of God. the book called Life's Toughest Years, written mainly for kids as they go from teenage years on up. And we recorded that in a school and took those messages that we recorded in a school, transcribed them, reduced them, and put them into a book with our staff, with our friends that help us. So anyhow, we're here, and thank you for listening today. I want to talk to you today about the different things that the pressures that we come under. from circumstances sometimes beyond our control. You know, a lot of the suffering we go through is self-induced, self-induced misery. I mean, that's very common where we mismanage our money and we mismanage our health or we mismanage our relationships. And it produces a lot of suffering in our life as a result of our mismanagement. But sometimes there are pressures that come into our life from circumstances completely beyond our control. And so there's no doubt that we Americans have been under tremendous adverse circumstances the past few months. And, you know, I'm aware the entire world has faced the same test that we're facing, but I'm only speaking to you that are here in Client Nation USA. It's true, some may hear this message via the podcasts that we offer. We do offer this radio show in various podcast platforms, such as Apple iPod, Spotify, Anchor, Breaker, those different podcast venues. And sometimes people in other countries will hear them. So anyone in their respective countries, if they hear, they can apply the same principles to their circumstances. that I'm talking about us applying to our lives because God's word is indeed for the entire planet. And the principles that I want to point out to you today, I want to point out are true wherever you may be. So let's start off with the first verse of scripture. It may shock you to hear this, but here it goes. Psalm 119, verse 71. Psalm 119, verse 71. The psalmist wrote, it is good for me that I have been afflicted so that I may learn thy statutes. Beg your pardon? It's good for me that I've been afflicted? Good? You're saying this is good? Yes. Why? So that I may learn thy statutes. The Hebrew word for afflicted is the Hebrew verb anah. And it means to be brought down or to made low or to be humbled. And maybe that's been the case in your life in the last few months. You've been humbled, you've been made low, you've been brought down. Why? So that, that's a purpose clause in the Bible. Anytime you see that word that, it's a purpose clause. So that the verb lamed, Hebrew verb lamed, It means so that I may learn. There's the word l'mod, learn. That's what l'mod means, to learn, the verb to learn through these adverse circumstances. So what am I doing? I'm learning through the circumstances. Why? Because my focus is different. All of a sudden, it's not about the gifts. It's more now about me and the giver. So I'm put in a situation through affliction or suffering or humility where now I can learn something that I didn't know before. I may learn something about myself. I may learn something about God. But the affliction is going to cause me to learn something. So let's get some principles. One, God allows unforeseen circumstances to that often bring frustration, so we would search his word for the answers. That's what we should do. We should search the word of God for the answers. And number two, only God can remove the worldwide pandemic we face today. And only his divine provisions can protect you or me during such times as we are in now. My pastor recently taught Psalm 91, a tremendous verse, a passage in Psalm 91. And this is what it says, the first four verses. And you can see in these first four verses, deliverance. and the divine provisions that God can provide for you. In Psalm 91, one through four, he that dwelleth in the secret places of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Do you hear that? He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, he is my refuge. He is my fortress and my God, and in him I will trust. Surely, verse three, Psalm 91, he will deliver me from the snare of the fowler and from the noisome pestilence. Verse 4, he shall cover me with his feathers and under his wings shall I trust. His truth shall be my shield and my buckler. Shield, truth, shield, the shield of faith. Ephesians 6.11 talks about pick up the shield of faith so that you can withstand the evil. enemies attack into your life. The shield of faith, you know it on the flat line as the faith rest drill, standing on the promises of God. That's why we printed that book, Promises and Principles. It's a beautiful book about the size of a telephone book, a small one, not a thick one, but it deals with many of God's promises for your life and many principles delivered from those promises. So his truth or his word or Bible doctrine is our shield as we stand under his wings. And the verse went on to say, let me remind you again, it's good for me that I've been afflicted so that I may learn your statutes. Statutes is a noun, chok, chok. That's the Hebrew word, chok, and it decrees your ordinances or God's laws in general. So one of the reasons that we are oftentimes go through affliction is to learn something, to learn something. Now, you've heard me say where the Lord Jesus Christ said, take my yoke upon you and learn from me. My yoke is easy, my burden is light. You may think what you're going through right now is a heavy burden, but it's really not. And you've heard me say where the Bible says, study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not to be ashamed. Rightly dividing the word of truth. Now is a time for you to learn. This is a time you can focus because you're not looking at other things. You're looking at one thing, the affliction that came into your life. So I got a couple of questions to ask you. Number one, what have you learned about God during your time of testing? Yeah, that's right. What have you learned about God during your time of testing? You should have learned he's faithful, he's protected you, he's watched over you, he's provided for you. But have you used this time to concentrate your studies? Have you used this time to find a well-qualified pastor that you could study under and grow under? Two, what did you learn about yourself as well as what did you learn about God? What did you learn? Three, did God point out a weakness in your own soul through his word or through the scriptures? Or did he point out maybe your lack of application where you got emotional and scared and frustrated and angry and bitter because of some laws that have been passed that you don't like? What did you learn about yourself by God's word? And four, afflictions are what separate the winners from the losers. The losers are those believers that don't stay filled with the Holy Spirit, those believers that don't take time to learn God's word and develop wisdom in their life where they have discernment and insight. Thus, they are losers in life because they compound their bad decisions and wind up self-destructing. So five, how do you handle unfair circumstances in your life? Do you complain? Are you full of self-pity? Or do you have complete confidence based on trusting your Heavenly Father, not just some self-determination, you know, hang in there, we'll make it, this too will pass. I've heard all of those things. Yeah, we'll be okay, let's just hang in there. That's not the place that we trust self-determination. We put our trust in Psalm 91. We dwell in the sacred place of the Most High under his wings. He's our refuge. He is our God. He protects us. He's our shield, our buckler. You know, the Lord Jesus Christ made an amazing statement about afflictions in his lifetime. When he was here on this earth in hypostatic union walking around as God and man, he made this statement to those disciples. In John 16, 33, these things I have spoken unto you that in me you might have peace. In me you might have peace. And remember, problem solving device number 10 is occupation with Christ. In the world you will have tribulation, he said. There we are, afflictions, adversities. But be of good cheer. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. Be of, no, doesn't that say complain and gripe and moan and be full of, no, it says be of good cheer. I overcame the world. And you also can overcome the world in Christ Jesus if you have a flatline in your soul. you can have the same mentality he had how do i know that because the bible says let this mind be in you that was also in christ jesus you can have that same mentality the bible said in romans 12 stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think think in terms of humility as god assigned to each of us a standard of thinking from his word the good cheer is yours and mine The world has been overcome. The Father knew about this in eternity past, what we're facing today across the world in this pandemic. But it's nothing for us to be afraid of. In the book of James, James wrote about our mindset or our attitude when adverse circumstances hit our life. You won't believe what James said about it. He said, consider it all joy. Consider it all joy. Kind of sounds like the Lord Jesus Christ saying, be of good cheer, doesn't it? Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. Well, maybe this is not a bad thing. Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe God's trying to teach me something. The testing of my faith produces endurance. Endurance is the Greek word, hupomone, the noun. Hupomone translated patience or perseverance. So through our adversity, If we are in fact in fellowship with God, that means we're filled with the Holy Spirit, God can teach us something through his word. If we will just be still and trust him and control our thoughts, don't be afraid, don't be frustrated, don't be angry, by using the faithless drill. You see, in the Bible, Your life and my life is equated to a race. We are said to be in a race. If you're gonna run the race, you must run it patiently. Listen to 1 Corinthians 9, 24. Do you not know that those who run in a race run all? But only one will receive the prize, so run in such a way that you may win. Because everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. And they then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable wreath. Now that's an athletic metaphor written by the Apostle Paul using the Olympic Games as an illustration. And you can apply these things into your life. We are in a race, but only one's going to receive the prize. There's the winners and there's the losers. So we're to run in such a way that we can be winners. We must exercise self-control in all things. Self-control, that's in your mind, that's what you think. So there's two ways you can deal with things. You can react to pressure with frustration and bitterness, or you can respond to pressure with faith and trust. How will you do it? How will you deal with? If you study the Jews when they came out of Egypt, you'll see they didn't deal with pressure very well at all. As a matter of fact, at one time, God offered to kill all of them and start over with Moses, and Moses said, don't do that, Lord, please. You see, Moses had gone on the mountain to get the law, had been up there 40 days, and they hadn't heard anything from him, and so they decided to make a golden calf and worship that. That didn't go over too well. There was no self-control. Your life and my life, we must exercise self-control in all things, the Bible says. Why? To get an imperishable wreath at the judgment seat of Christ. Hebrews 12.1 talks about that race again. Therefore... Since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, and that's the invisible angelic host that's watching every day, when you are going through these sort of tests that we're going through in our nation, we're being observed by invisible angels. So the Bible says, let's lay aside every encumbrance And the sin that so easily entangles us, the sin, what sin is it in your life? What one sin do you keep going back to? What one sin keeps capturing you? And you have to rebound that sin over and over and over again. It encumbers you, that sin that overcomes you so easily and entangles us. There's only one way to break that yoke, and that's to stay filled with the Holy Spirit, to use the rebound technique. When you do fail and commit that specific sin and keep growing in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, you will get victory over it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but you will get victory over it. I promise you. So we have a great cloud of witnesses watching today. surrounding, cheering. When you make a good decision, you can hear the angelic host of heaven applauding you. Lay aside the encumbrance and the sin that easily entangles you and run with patience, endurance. Run with patience the race that is set before you. That demands you have to have self-control. You can't get squirrely. You can't get thinking in terms of reactionary sins like fear and anger and bitterness. Listen to Isaiah 40, 31. Those who wait for the Lord, those who wait for the Lord, those who are patient, will gain new strength. They'll be strong. Those who wait for the Lord, patience, will gain new strength. That means they'll be strong. They'll have spiritual confidence in their life. They will mount up with wings like an eagle. That's an illustration, a metaphor for flying. Eagles fly, eagles soar, high above circumstances. This gives them a different perspective on life. An eagle can see a rat in a field from a thousand feet up in the air. When you have spiritual wisdom, When you have divine discernment and insight, you have vision like an eagle. You can mount up with wings of eagle. You can fly above the circumstances in your life, and you can have a new divine perspective on what's going on, the perspective that the world doesn't have. You know, they'll bring people into different talk shows, radio shows, TV shows, and ask them, Their perspective on what's going on and where we're headed is never the same perspective that I have because my perspective is based on the Word of God, and yours should be too. And if they interviewed you, could you at least say, talk well enough do you know enough about the word of god to be able to define your perspective to tell these people what what motivates you and what you see coming so they will mount up with wings like eagles that means they'll be above circumstances with a different divine perspective they will run and not get tired that's another metaphor of a racer a runner And, you know, we live a fast-paced life. The spiritual life is fast-paced, here today, gone tomorrow. And when you are into the word of God with a flat line in your soul, you will never get tired. You will be advancing quickly, quickly in the plan of God in your life. And you will walk and not be weary. Walk is the long walk. It's a long walk. So we have several metaphors there. Flying high above the earth, running fast, walking slow but deliberately, It means all of these things relate to your life as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. This new strength that you get, those who wait for the Lord, those who patiently wait for the Lord, will have strength, fly like an eagle, run like a racer, walk like a hiker, never get tired, never get run over, never get left behind. Here's the principle. Your afflictions are designed to test you and create within you a new confidence and a new joy through spiritual growth your afflictions your testings your adversities the ones that you don't create yourself the ones that are unforeseen that come into your life like what we're facing today in this pandemic pressure from those circumstances those pressures are designed to test you and to create within you a new confidence and a joy A joy through spiritual growth. Yeah, we say joy. How do you get joy? Be of good cheer, Jesus said. There's joy. What did James say? Count it all joy when you encounter various trials. There it is again. This test, this fire that you're going through is refining you. It's purging out the unnecessary emotions that grip you, like panic and insecurity in your life. Listen to Romans 5, 3. Paul wrote it this way. And not only this, but we also glory in our tribulation. We glory in our tribulation because we know that that tribulation brings about perseverance. We relish it. We love it. Because why? It's teaching me patience. It's teaching me to be steadfast, hupomone, perseverance. I gave you this word earlier, patience, hupomone. And that's what this conflict is doing in your life. If you are a mature believer and you're taking in the word of God, you are growing and you are learning and you are developing patience in your life. You're becoming a different person. And that's a wonderful thing. So, are you? Is that happening in your life? Are you developing that perseverance, that hupomone? Because adversity that you face in your life, that adversity is defined as a state of adverse circumstances or a condition of suffering. And there are basically a couple of types of suffering. One of them is suffering for blessing, which we are talking about here now. And that's what we're talking about. And then there's also suffering for discipline. And we're not talking about that one. Suffering for discipline is suffering we create. Suffering for blessing is suffering that we receive. So one of them, we receive it in order to grow. The other one, we receive it in order to be tested or disciplined or taught something. So what suffering are you going through? Are you being disciplined by God for your failure to execute the Christian life? Or are you being suffering for blessing? Are you suffering so that you can grow, you can have patience, you can persevere through this? See, this is what the world needs. This is what your family and your friends need. They need someone like you who can replicate the thinking of Christ in these adverse circumstances and not like everyone else who's living in panic palace, frustrated and ready to jump out the window because they can't do what they wanna do. Many, many believers, just like yourself, I mean, people just like us, they experience stress due to the inability to function under these adverse circumstances. And, you know, I mean, they turn to music, they turn to exercise, they turn to some sort of meditation to try to calm their frayed nerves. But you can avoid this sort of stress by having a floodline in your soul. here's a principle i want you to remember remember i said it don't forget it please write it down somewhere a shallow soul produces a shallow faith a shallow soul produces a shallow faith your soul must have depth to it and that depth is built on the word of god in your soul the more of the word of god you know the more along you are towards spiritual maturity in your life Remember, I've told you there's a difference between being a spiritual Christian and a mature Christian. A spiritual Christian is filled with the Holy Spirit. He's spiritual. A mature Christian is filled with the Holy Spirit and maximum amount of Bible doctrine in his soul. The shallow faith believer is a believer who operates on emotions. The believer who doesn't have any doctrine in his soul. The believer who operates on his feelings. That's a shallow soul. They won't sustain you. So where does all that faith come from I'm talking about? Well, Romans 10, 17, faith comes by hearing, hearing and hearing by the word of God. Who do you hear? Who do you study under? Who's your pastor? Who do you listen to on a daily basis? You know, there's saving faith and there's living faith. Where does faith come from? Saving faith is salvation, for by grace are you saved through faith. And living faith is the shield of faith, the faithless drill. The essence of faith consists of believing and receiving what God's revealed through his word and through the ones who teach it to us. And adversity has the power to create enough stress, enough stress-related sins to destroy us, but faith has enough power to create trust and patience. We can overcome those sins. So the greatest way God can teach you or me patience is to allow adversity to come into our life, to allow adversity to come into our life, something we have no control over, so that we cannot push a button and make it go away. And he's done it, hasn't he? There are four key stress-related sins you've gotta defeat. Worry, fear, anger, and guilt. Worry, fear, anger, and guilt. Matthew 6.25 tells you not to worry. Matthew 14.28 talks about fear. James 1.6 talks about anger and guilt. Well, Satan can use your guilt to disillusion you with yourself. through some unrealistic self-image and unrealistic expectations. That's your own arrogance. Let me ask you a question. Have you ever been disgusted with yourself, maybe? I know I have from time to time, and Satan will use it. Well, I hope you've learned something today about pressure from circumstances. What God has allowed us to go through and what we're seeing is all a divine design to learn so we can learn and grow so that we can replicate Christ and represent him to our friends. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flotline.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Don't do this. Yellowstone National Park, a Florida man was injured when he was gored by a bison. said the National Park Service. A bison, this is the first reported incident of a person injured by a bison in Yellowstone this year. Park ain't even been open for two weeks. And immediately somebody's out there getting gored. And guess why? Do you think it was because he was minding a respectful distance from the bison? No. No, he wanted to get up and close and personal with it. So he got minor injuries, was treated by emergency medical personnel. You're told to keep, in fact, Yellowstone requires that you keep 25 yards away from the animals up there and 100 yards away from bears and wolves. 25 from all large animals, 100 yards from bears and wolves. And bison have injured more people in Yellowstone than any other animal. They're not aggressive. But when people get up in their faces, yeah, nobody likes that. Not even me. I'd gore you too if I had horns. And then in May 2024, a dude kicked a bison in the leg. And guess what? It kicked him back and injured him. And then he got arrested and jailed because he kicked a bison. Just don't be a moron and don't like try to go up and get a selfie with it. And everything's cool, right? It's so simple. I mean, this is not hard. If a kid tells you that there's somebody in their closet, maybe just don't disregard it. Like if you're this kid, a Florida man was arrested because he was hiding in a kid's bedroom closet. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. This Florida man, he ran away from law enforcement, fled into a home and hidden a kid's bedroom closet. Liberty County Sheriff Robert Arnold deputies got a call on Tuesday about a suspicious person. The guy identified as Bobby McKenzie. He took off on a four wheeler and ditched it, ran into a house. And they yeah, they found him hiding in a child's bedroom closet. And the individuals who called it in, they said thank you to them. The guy had a warrant out for aggravated assault. He also had, oh gosh, he hid a bag containing a bunch of meth and all kinds of drug paraphernalia under the kid's bed. Man, oh man, I'm telling you. A Florida man got pulled over and then led police on a foot chase. After they caught him, they laughed and said, you thought you were Usain Bolt. Yeah, well, that's funny. It is. He led cops on a foot chase through Daytona Beach. Xavier McCall. You don't need to have an apostrophe after the X. Okay, there's literally no need because the name is... Okay, I can't even do this story. The name is X-A-V-I-E-R. The apostrophe is there to symbolize the absence of a vowel and yet connect the word. But it's X-A, Xavier, and that's how it's spelled. You don't need an apostrophe to make your cheap broke ass look fancy. Stop it. That's so stupid. Who named you? Your mother ought to be arrested because she's dumb. They could not provide. Who does the name like this? That's like having your name Amber and an apostrophe after the A and between the A and M. Shut up. They could not provide Daytona. Xavier McCall with a apostrophe could not provide Daytona Beach officers with his license. He said he was in his grandma's vehicle. They asked him to get off. He took off and they were able to catch him, cornered him and take him into custody. And he's in the pokey now. So, yeah, they go. You're not supposed to be breathing like that from a short little run, dude. So clearly his cardio was bad. I love the body cam footage when they're chasing him, too. This guy was not getting far. And the cops were like, dude, you're younger than us. You should be faster than us. And one of them said that the dude smoked too much. And that's why he didn't have good blood circulation or cardio.
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He also thought his grandma's car.
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All the way. Can I just keep this footage going? Doesn't it look like the cop running? His arms are just crazy. He's like one of those blow-up dolls outside of a car dealership. His arms just look mad when he's running. Let's see here. Oh, by the way, our Bison story came from Florida Man Keith. Or no, Listener Keith. Our Florida Man Bison story came from Listener Keith. So thank you from that. Let's see. Drunk Florida Man crashes his Tesla. This is a Villages story. It's a Villages story. A villager, Minecraft, crashed his Tesla in a roundabout. Of course he did. And then when police came, he made up a fictional girlfriend and said, no, it's Stacy, my girlfriend Stacy. He literally made up a whole woman. And fabricated a name and told police that Stacy crashed his Tesla and ran away. I know. And so the man, after he crashed the roundabout, he flooded the village of Hawkins. And they found 63-year-old Jeffrey Treadwell and matched descriptions. He began blaming his girlfriend. He said Stacy did it. Stacy ran away after she crashed into the roundabout. And he goes, it's a girl I met in Brownwood. Stacy's her name. And he was drinking. I mean, clearly. And they concluded that Stacy was completely made up. So they booked him in Sumter County Detention Center and he was released on $1,100 bond. Yeah, that's not, can you imagine? Yeah, it was Stacy that did it. Yeah, I'm going to start using that excuse. I didn't do it. Stacy did it. Stacy also crashed that car in that roundabout down there in Florida. Did you hear about that? Did you hear about what Stacy did? That floozy.
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Stacy's mom's got a good one.
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Everybody knows the Yeti people. They make their super expensive coolers. And they got, um... I feel like they turned their back on the people that made them. I feel like they turned their back on hunters and gun owners and all of that because they decided to really get away. They and Under Armour sort of did. I know some people who work in the... who work in the hunting industry uh industry like they you know products things like actual legitimate hunters and um they had sponsorships with under armor and they can't post stuff with guns and things like that it's real weird i'm not going to say who because i don't want to they're dear friends and and there's nothing bad meant about it from their end but they're just like yeah this is what's happening i bring this up because i saw this i or reposted it the other day claire uh booth loose Center for Conservative Women. It's a ladies organization. You know, they also voted for tremendous goodies for the rest of the hour. They were getting ready. It's a Virginia-based organization, and they've done this before. And they order these They're like, they're Yetis, but they're coffee mugs. They're not, which I don't understand, honestly, the point of it. I'm like, I drink coffee too damn fast.
SPEAKER 12 :
Keeps it warmer longer.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay. I don't know. Is it dishwasher safe? Because Dana doesn't buy nothing unless it's dishwasher safe.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think the actual coffee cup ones are.
SPEAKER 01 :
I heard someone scream out there. You said washer. I did. Dishwasher is exactly what the word is. Dishwasher. Tremendous goodies. Dishwasher. So they ordered these personalized, what do they call them? Seafoam green. It's almost like a, it's like next, nearly almost a Tiffany blue. Anyway, so they ordered, you know, companies get these tumblers and they put their company name on them and they send them out and that's, you know, normal. So they were buying... I don't know how many, but they had put in a reorder is what they said. They've done this before. They put in a reorder of these tumblers, this seafoam green tumblers. And they noticed, like I said, they've done it before, same order. So it's a reorder. They didn't order more. So don't think that it wasn't because they couldn't fulfill it because they've done it before. They reordered them. And then all was going well. Until all of a sudden, they heard back from the Yeti people. And the Yeti people told them that they could not do it. They said that their logo includes the phrase, quote unquote, conservative women. And they, after they sent all their cancellation emails, after they paid over $1,600, after all of that, They had the cancellation email from the Yeti people. And it said their order was canceled because the logo includes the phrase conservative women. That to me seems to be a problem here. I mean, I don't know why that's it's it's the clear booth loose. It's like in their group name. And they've had them before because they, you can throw, I know Juan just showed it to you, but the reason they have this mug is because they ordered it before. And they had no problem with it. There was no problem with this. I'm looking at the mug on my screen. There was no problem with it. So what's the issue? See, they had ordered it before. Simple enough, right? Well, they got told, well, it's because they have conservative on it. Now, technically, their their tax structure, they can't actually even be a political group because they that's not how their their tax structure. They're not they're not structured in that in that regard in that way. So they called, someone from the group called Yeti to ask what prompted the cancellation, and they were also told verbatim that it was the phrase conservative women. They said it's on the political side, so the mug could not be made. They don't want to avoid any, they want to avoid any kind of political affiliation, because they're a bunch of pansies. And they said, well, they're, uh, Their policy prevents customizing products aligned with political affiliations or organizations or content that could be considered obscene, vulgar, profane, discriminatory, defamatory, or hateful. They said that earlier transaction, it should not have been made. It was a mistake that it went through. So they can't say it because it says conservative.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, Kane. How is that hateful? How is that defamatory? Did they explain that the word conservative somehow violates their policy that they just outlined?
SPEAKER 01 :
No, they didn't explain it. The last time they did this, Yeti betrayed gun owners. I haven't used Yeti in a long time. I won't put my liquids in a Yeti. They made gun owners mad. This was like 2018. This was like right after Parkland and it was just so stupid that they did it. So Yeti got very... They got political by trying to not be political. You know what I mean? You make drinkware. Are they worried that they're going to get targeted by people who don't buy their products anyway?
SPEAKER 12 :
And why can't you put a little tiny disclaimer? Like if you're printing anything on there, put a little tiny disclaimer on there.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is so stupid. This has nothing to do with you. Everybody knows that if you order a product like that and you have it customized, like a bulk order, that company is not sponsoring you. They're not endorsing your viewpoints. If you purchase a pair of Nike sneakers, That's not Nike endorsing your viewpoint. You're purchasing a product. That's what these people are doing. But the fascistic left doesn't even want you to be able to have that option. So they try to fabricate the stupid claim that, well, if they're working with you, they're validating your existence by working with you. It's just I just don't like Yeti. I get I just it's infuriating that a company would react this way. And they're because that sounds like it's discriminatory against conservative women. And again, I go back to the people who don't would not are not going to purchase these products anyway. They're worried about being targeted by those people. I mean, good heavens. This is a conservative women's organization. That's it. That's it. Just a conservative women's organization. So why are they trying to Bud Light themselves again? I remember they we had a like we have like these community fairs and stuff in our town square and all this stuff in the town where I live in. And after Yeti did that with firearm owners, this was back in 2018, my husband and I were walking around our town square. It was their art fair or whatever. We just, you know, you walk around, you look at stuff, you enjoy the sunshine. It's nice to talk to people. And we walked by a Yeti had a tent there. And they haven't had a tent after this, but they had a tent there, Yeti. It's a little, you know, tent at the fair with all the other booth vendors. And they were walking up to people and asking if they wanted a Yeti sticker, if they were interested in looking at the Yeti products. And they came up to us. We were like, no, thank you. No, thank you. And I don't even remember exactly what I said, but they said, oh, they're like, do you know Yeti? Do you not like them? I'm like, are you seriously going to press this with me right now in the middle of the town square? They had no idea who I was, and I wasn't trying to be that way at all. But at first, I mean, and he was being a persistent sales guy, I guess, but he just wouldn't leave it alone. You know, I'm I'm trying to be the nice person. My husband's like, yeah, you know why? Because you guys screwed over gun owners. So, no, we are not interested in looking at your stuff. We're not interested. And I'm trying to be like, no, thanks. And just leave me the hell alone. Right. Chris was like, no, we're not interested in it because you're a bunch of he didn't go that far. But he's like, no, you guys screwed over gun owners. Why in the hell would we ever be interested in looking at these products? No. He's like, get out of my way. Which I also thought was nice. It wasn't that guy's problem. He didn't set the company policy. But I do think that you've got to be aware of that kind of stuff, especially when you're in one of the most conservative towns in America. It was just funny. But there are other companies that exist out there besides Yeti. There's one based in Texas called Bison Coolers. It's just it's like they're like Yeti, but with all the nonsense. So hopefully they're going to another one of these companies to get their order filled because this is stupid. I don't know why you would you would you know, I love what Michael Jordan said when people were asking him to get political and he's trying to sell sneakers and he's like Republicans wear sneakers, too. That's exactly right. That's the attitude to have. This idea that, well, I have my political beliefs and everything, including my tennis shoe and my orange juice and my shaving cream and my paper clips. I don't even use those anymore. Everything has to affirm. That is the obsession with the left. Everything that they do has got to be affirmed by something. Have you noticed this? It's got to be affirmed by a product. It's got to be affirmed by other people against your will. Everything has to validate their choices. Are you so insecure that you have to have... Your, you know, butter? Affirm you? Or your mouthwash? Have you seen, like, the rainbow mouthwash? Are we past the gay pride month? Where it's all marketing, gay, everything? I think it's coming up. Oh, no. Did I speak too soon? Oh, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it's June. For some reason, I'm thinking.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, really? Why did I ask? Where it's like, I can't even use this mouthwash unless it affirms the way I like to get it on. I can't use this. I mean, it's just so stupid.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it's confirmed. June is widely recognized.
SPEAKER 01 :
Why is it a whole month?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's Pride Month.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
I didn't want to keep this in Florida, man, just because it seems sensitive. A nine year old girl was snorkeling off of the shore of Boca Grande and with her mom and siblings. This is yesterday. Her hand was bitten off by a shark. Off all the way off. It is insane. They said it looked like it was an eight-foot bull shark. It got her right hand and part of her wrist. And she emerged from the water on her own, completely covered in blood. The construction workers nearby, God love them, they saw it and were like, whoa! They called 911 and they created a tourniquet on a beach top with the family to stop the bleeding. She was airlifted 100 miles away, admitted for emergency surgery. They were hoping to reattach it. They said everybody was in shock. They heard her scream. And some people were not aware that they had just witnessed a shark attack. It was a little confusing. But they said they they said her whole hand was only hanging by like an tendon, one tendon. And they said the bones were complete. I mean, wow. So that's oh my gosh. So they had to get arteries from her leg to her hand to get the blood flow back. They had to install pins. So they're trying to reattach it. They said that they were able to get it to where she could move her fingers. But can you believe this? That is insane. I mean, that's you got to be so careful when you're in the water. You got to be really careful. I'm not saying she wasn't at all. It's just sometimes things like that can happen. It's oh, let's see. Apparently singing is good for your brain even if you're bad at it. Really? Really? They said that making music boosts brain and mental health according to a study coming from the behavioral sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. And they were focusing on researching music-based treatments for mental health. And they had said that, yeah, when you sing, apparently releases dopamine and activates the brain's reward system. And that's one of the reasons why karaoke apparently is super popular. And people are, you know, without liquor, people are happy with it. They studied, for instance, 8000 Swedish twins. And the one that played music more than the other was had better emotional awareness. That's crazy. Wow. That's really interesting. That doesn't mean I'm going to start singing regularly. I'm an alto. Like, I'm a hardcore alto, you know? Sometimes I feel like the princess from Spaceballs. Nobody knows the trouble I've seen. I feel like her. over $400,000 worth of cocaine found hidden in shoes at an airport in Toronto. Why do people think they're going to get this stuff through? It blows the mind. But they, so apparently, you know, like somebody had a suitcase that they were going to check and they had different, you know, pairs of shoes in it. And you might be like, oh, okay, they're going for an extended trip. They need, you know, they need options for footwear. But apparently in the souls, they had tons of cocaine in there. And so they ended up, that gets like x-rayed. Like they're going to see that stuff. Men with broken heart syndrome are more likely to die. No, not the men. They have been studying this. They said that it's actually a whole health experience. In 2021, they did this whole study of it and they've continued it. And it's a broken heart syndrome apparently affects men more. That's really sad. I saw this over at Red State. This is funny. Headline, archaeologists find a child sacrifice altar in Guatemala. And CBS really, really spun it in a very special way. So archaeologists excavated this altar that I mean, around modern from a people from modern day Mexico City that showed that they really had traveled deep into Mayan territory. And the altar, apparently they found the remains of three young children. And they said they were not older than four years old. They were found on three sides of the altar. And apparently they were like a child sacrifice type of people. And that was a child sacrifice altar. They said that they were used for sacrifices, especially of children. And CBS, they could have stopped at that story. right at that they could have stopped right there that's enough you got enough from that right from that story you're like wow that's really messed up wow with stuff that people believed in back then right and move on with your life nope nope no not if you're cbs so they had to go and find uh an expert now here's this is how they put it quote Maria Belen Menendez, an archaeologist who was not involved with the project, really has no idea what the hell's happening. There's never been there, doesn't know anything about it. Anyway, she was involved with the project, said the discovery confirms that there had been an interconnection between both cultures and what their relationships with their gods and celestial bodies was like. She said, quote, we see how the issue of sacrifice exists in both cultures. It was a practice. It's not that they were violent. It was their way of connecting with celestial bodies. Kane, is there any way to spin child sacrifices being nonviolent?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't see how. I mean, they didn't succeed.
SPEAKER 01 :
If it has to do with like pushing some sort of left leftist narrative, then yes, it's not. I mean, it's not violent. The violent thing about killing kids on the altar, you know, to appease some gods. Apparently that's not that's not violent. Good night.
SPEAKER 12 :
Freedom of religion.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's this noble savage myth. Can we just disregard the noble savage? That's like a phrase. The ideology that everyone in South America and the United States was perfect until you damn dirty white Europeans came here. You horrible people. So I have half of my ancestry that was totally fine here in the United States as indigenous people. And then my white European people came over and they intermingled and ruined everything. They ruined all of it. They messed up the child sacrifices and everything that we had good going on here, Cain. I'll be damned. But that's the whole thing, right? Like Native Americans, American Indians were completely peaceful people that just were super helpful and never engaged in any kind of warmonger. I mean, forget the fact that they would butcher each other. So I always laugh when Lakota are like, wow, you guys stole Mount Rushmore for us. Who the hell did y'all steal Mount Rushmore for and from? And who did they steal Mount Rushmore from? Every nation exists on the back of the conquered today. There were a people before them and a people before them and a people before them. And only and only if you disregard that, are you an ahistorical, just absolutely a liberal moron. So this idea that they could not just say, wow, that's pretty messed up. They were killing kids on altars and sacrificing four-year-olds. Crazy. How crazy is that? They have to go, no, no, no. They have to go with the noble savage ideology. No, no, no. This mythology that leftists surround themselves with. No, no, no. They weren't violent because it was about connecting with celestial bodies. That's what it was about. So see, how dare you assume the worst of these people killing children on an altar of child sacrifice. It had to do, Cain, with connecting to celestial bodies. If your God requires you to cut up kids, multiple children, and fulfill that at the altar, don't cite Abraham because that was testing Abraham's faith and God intervened and nothing ever happened to his son. So disregard anti-biblical, illiberal snots. But... If your God's like, yeah, go ahead and bring all these babies up here and cut them up on the altar, your God sucks. Sorry, your God sucks. I'm not sorry about it. You just need to be made aware of this because apparently no one in your life loves you enough to tell you this. Then that's weak, right? That's weakness. So this idea that, no, it's all noble and it's all until the Europeans came over. I'm not saying the Europeans did everything great, obviously. But this idea that there is like some perfect group of people that existed and never and were sinless and problemless, even up to the point that now their child sacrifice is just about connecting the celestial entities. That is and that's absolute. That's a historical thing. That's what's not based in science or history or reality. But CBS, they had to go through that. See, when they took kids and they were cutting off their bodies and ripping their hearts out on these slabs of stone, they were just trying to connect to their celestial bodies. And you not understanding that is white privilege. Kane, if you don't understand that, that's your white part. You're being bigoted against yourself.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry to hear that.
SPEAKER 01 :
So mean, right? I mean, they were just trying to connect to their pagan gods. That's like Planned Parenthood today. Planned Parenthood are their modern day stone tablet Mayan Aztec sacrifices. That's exactly what they are.
SPEAKER 12 :
Literally typing that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Planned Parenthood is these buildings that exist in all different cities around the country. Planned Parenthood is nothing more than the modern day child sacrifice altar of ancient Aztec and Mayan peoples. That's exactly what it is today. And people would like it more if... They would actually have less... They would have more of a problem with abortion if it was done with AR-15s than if it was done with people who said that they were there not to hurt, like nurses, physicians, things like that. This is the reality of the life that we live. It's true. You guys know it is. I said it purposely because you guys know it's true. So this... I just think that's how CBS... They couldn't just report that. CBS had to go, oh my gosh, this sounds... Mean. We've got to go figure out a way to make this more acceptable and palatable for our audiences. Let's bring in Randall expert who has no idea about any of this. Well, they were just connecting, as you see, to celestial bodies. I mean, what are the excuses over Planned Parenthood? What celestial bodies are they trying to connect to? See, same altar, just different purpose. Same thing every time. So how dare those Europeans come in and colonize that? Colonize that child sacrifice right the hell out of culture. Just amazing, right? So mean.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Good afternoon and welcome to Sportsman Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us today. What a beautiful day here in the Mile High City. Flag day. I hope everyone's out and being safe as well. And happy Father's Day. A great weekend. And if you listen to the show, over these last few years, April 16th of 2022, my wife Victoria and I were Beside my dad in Dallas when he left this earth. And so I tell you, Father's Day has certainly been a little different for me over these last couple of years. But I'll just challenge you this. If your dad is still with you, make every effort you can to see him. Don't text him. Don't call him. If you can get there, get there. And I promise you, you will never regret the extra effort maybe of taking the time to get to be with your dad and wish him a happy Father's Day. All right. Hey, one quick story I want to touch on real quick. And our good buddy Paul Dowding with Water Pros does a show with us on Water Talk. And make sure you look up these articles, okay? And I'm talking to our folks that like to fish and eat fish that they catch here. Channel 7 just did a story yesterday. on some new state updates from the Colorado guidance area there, and it is the Colorado Department of Public Health. There's going to be new signs in area lakes telling you about being very careful of eating the fish you catch, just to put it quickly to you. check this out you know june 1st there was an article that came out about chatfield where they were telling you to only eat one serving a month of smallmouth bass two servings a month of walleye due to the pfas in the water which uh forever chemicals which raise um we're raising awareness here because of the long-term health risk that can give you human-made chemicals in our water And we break this down on our show. I think Paul's going to be with us on Friday the 20th, this coming Friday at noon. And we'll be breaking this down some more. We just want to make everybody aware. A lot of people will be out fishing. And just want to make you aware. Don't eat the fish, all right? Hey, we all think that's healthy, but I'm telling you, you're taking your health in your own hands. So once again, that article was June 1st, and that was Chatfield. Don't eat but one serving a month of smallmouth bass and two servings a month of walleye. So, wow, our water is in trouble. But, hey, Water Pros can help you. They're number 303-862-5554. All right, a good buddy of mine hit the lottery. We're going to bring him up, Henry Ferguson. going on a moose hunt henry was our past uh chairman and president and uh of the colorado bowhunter association henry how are you scott based on that intro i couldn't be better dude as i told you this morning when i asked you if you had a few minutes you know hey we'll never get to hunt a moose i might as well talk somebody's gonna get to hunt one but oh man i'll tell you i i was starting to feel the same way scott you know and it's it's funny after a
SPEAKER 13 :
i i drew my in my seventh year or 17th year of applying so i mean i was pretty invested into it but i mean i have friends who have been applying since the mid 80s when they first started the moose draw long before preference points wow and so i mean i i i'm really fortunate I know I hit the lottery, and I'm going to treat it accordingly. I'm going to stout my butt off all summer and just enjoy the high country and enjoy hunting a new unit and having a lot of fun and just exploring a new part of the state.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
I can't freaking wait.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, hey, if there's a perfect scouter out there in Colorado, it's you. I mean, you always work hard and do your due diligence every year. I put my time in on it. How's the moose? I mean, you're talking about from mule deer to moose. I mean, vastly different in tactics, different things that you do. I mean, and when you haven't done it before, how are you going about it?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, the funny thing is, I mean, it's still largely a glassing hunt because I plan on hunting that archery. I drew the season choice part, but I do plan on shooting it with bow. And so, I mean, I plan on scouting all summer. And from what I'm understanding, their patterns change dramatically once that velvet comes off. And the velvet is supposed to come off like a day or two before the season starts. So it's going to be real interesting to see what and how they change. But, you know, I mean, as far as like stocking them, I mean, that's, you know, they're not exactly the cagiest animal out there. But, you know, I mean, and part of that just comes from being big, you know, being big and kind of being at the top of the ungulate chain, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I've heard their eyesight is not very good.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's going to work out great for me. I'm looking forward to that. I'm hoping that's accurate. Scott, one of the funniest parts about drawing this tag is some of the not kind names that your friends, and I'm holding up my air quotes there, call you when they find out you drew a moose tag. But I've called other people the same things when they've drawn them, so I get it.
SPEAKER 05 :
But you know what? You were telling me this morning you've been shocked because, hey, it's a big joke about everybody when they draw a tag. Hey, I'm not looking for anybody who's hiding a hole, but can you give me any guidance? But you've actually had some serious folks send you some, hey, this is where I saw it. I've seen some moose.
SPEAKER 13 :
I have had some. legitimate waypoint sent to me one of them was actually titled big a moose so you know hey it the cool thing about this is it is a once-in-a-lifetime hunt so I mean it's not like people you know it's not like me protecting my deer spot because I know that I'm going to have that tag again real soon and You know, so it's kind of funny. It's just a very different, it's a different mindset for people. And I'm just, I've really enjoyed it because I've had so many people reach out and want to be a part of it. Because let's face it, a lot of us view this, I mean, it is a once-in-a-lifetime tag, but it's not a guaranteed once-in-a-lifetime tag. It's a maximum of one. It's not a guarantee that everybody will get one in their lifetime. Right. I've got a lot of people who have reached out to offer help, including my friend Drummond, who said, I will help you glass. I'll help you scout. I love looking at moose, but my help ends there. You know what? That's a smart man because those moose quarters are supposed to be real heavy.
SPEAKER 05 :
No doubt, no doubt. All right. Now, you made the conscious decision to archer hunt. Now, most people would say, dude, you got one chance. You just clearly explained a lifetime deal. Why wouldn't you use a rifle to give you better chances? Because your odds are much better with a gun. So explain your thought process.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And here's my thought process on that. So thanks for asking, Scott, because my thought process is this. I get 26 days at the beginning of the season before the, you know, I get like seven days before muzzleloader portion starts. And then it's 26 days before rifle starts. I just want to have first crack at it. You know, if I'm scouting all summer and I find a bull that I'm really taken with, you know, I want to have the opportunity to go out there and hunt that bull. So, you know, there's no guarantees for a rifle hunter. I mean, that could be that biggest bull in the unit. could already have my arrow in it. You know, it's a whole bunch of things go my way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. And then with the weather, you never know and change of patterns. You've done all this scouting. Then you go back there later in rifle and man, you know, they ain't there. And most importantly, Scott, I just love shooting a bow.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's my thing. I love it. I've always loved it. And I mean, you know, I'm not, I'm not a guy who's putting in for all the once in a lifetime species. I have my son in for all of them, but, um, You know, sheep and goat are, this is not my thing. It's not my jam. But I've always really envisioned being able to bow hunt a big moose. So I'm going to get my crack at it this year, and I'm pretty excited.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Henry Ferguson is with us. Once again, Henry has served the outdoors well here in Colorado, has really put a lot into the Colorado Bowhunter Association, continues to do so as well. And has drawn a moose hunt. So we're going to follow this along as we go and hopefully get Henry back on and let him tell the story of this. You know, when you look at the moose in Colorado, I mean, I've seen some pretty good moose in Colorado, you know, with pictures, I should say, you know, from people and all. I mean, do you have a judgment in your head of passing any legal just to wait for that one that you think?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I want a big one. You know, hey, like I said, I've got one shot at it, and I've got almost a month to make it happen. I'm already explaining to all the people at work that my phone may not be answered that much, and there might be a significant lag time in me responding to emails in the month of September. So I'm going to work hard leading up to it to get as many fires going. put out and prevent it as I possibly can so that when that time comes, I can put the time in to really chasing a big bull.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. You know, I want to mention this, too. You mentioned Father's Day, and I want to spend a minute here because I think this is very important. If there's a guy out there that has... um done it right in my opinion and that's my opinion um with you and the time that you have spent with Kyle uh when I say in the field I don't mean just there because man he's played sports you've been there all that but since we're on a hunting show I want to talk about that time you as a father and him as your son and now that he's he's in college and all what has that meant through the years now in yours and his relationship as a father and it it
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you for that, Scott. It means so much. There are so many amazing memories that can only be made through struggle. And I'm totally convinced of that. And hunting is probably the best example of that out there. You know, you just, you work so hard to accomplish something from scouting and practicing and all those things. And then to see that to see that success and then have the, you know, the, the meat in your pack, weighing you down on a big pack out. Those are lessons that, that life can only teach you in a few different ways, you know, and this is, this is just such a great way to do it. And it just, there's so many great memories that come from it. And I just encourage everybody, I mean, as early in their lives as you possibly can get those kids outside. That's, That's where happiness is, man. There's just so many good things out there. And, you know, and then being able to see them succeed. And, you know, come through and make a shot when the pressure's on. I mean, that's so awesome. I mean, as a parent, there's not many things that I put higher than that, you know, for memories.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I'm sure he would say the same. And, you know, hey, you guys have done some great vacations and all, but you know what? And I'm just making this up as far as a trip to Disney World or being on a mountain with your kid. The memory is the mountain, isn't it?
SPEAKER 13 :
It's huge, man. It's huge. And, again, I think that part of it is because of the struggle. You know, I don't think many things in life that are really worth having are worth, you know, come without a struggle. And hunting is just such a great, great example of that, you know. the harder you work the luckier you get and it's pretty cool yeah absolutely so um are you getting out gonna get out early in the days and then go back in the evenings you're staying out all day when you're when you're scouting i mean what's so in my scouting primarily i'm out there early mornings late evenings and that's always been my way that i've scouted everything and that's Um, you know, and I mean, I went out yesterday morning. That was my first trip out. Cause I, I literally was in, I got the news that I drew on a Tuesday and then the following Sunday I was off for a work trip and in Vietnam through the following Monday. So, so yeah, I just, I just got out from my first trip and saw a bowl right off the bat and just, I mean, man, my blood was pumping seeing that bowl. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is, This is real. I get to do this. So, yeah, it was pretty surreal and pretty cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. You know, Henry, I know you know this guy. I told you I was going to keep you 10 minutes. I'm going to keep you a few more minutes because, man, some just heartbreaking news yesterday from a friend of ours, Chad LaChance. And, Charlie, I'm going to play this on my deal over this. I think this will do. And then I'm going to leave a few minutes for a comment here. But this is Chad LaChance, fishful thinker. Yesterday, this was his post.
SPEAKER 02 :
bit of heavy news for you guys today that I hate to share but I feel like it needs to be done I'm just gonna cut to the chase I haven't been diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer that has spread to other areas of my abdomen subsequently I've been placed on palliative care and my time on earth is coming to a close much shorter than I thought it might but I wanted to say a couple of critical things that's very important I've been the guy that said forever that you never know how long you're going to be here, that we're all going to die of something, all of those things. And if you look back at my birthday posts on January 27th, for many years, I've advised people to live like they were dying, just in case. Well, you never know when you're going to get news like I got. And I'm very glad that I've followed my own advice for all of these years. I don't just say it, I live it. And I've had a life full of adventures, traveled all over the place and done some crazy things, and I'm very grateful for it. At this point, my bucket list is tiny little, and that's a blessing to be in life when you get the news that I just got. So from the Fishful Thinker standpoint, I want to say a big, giant thank you to Sportsman's Warehouse, who stuck with me from day one, and Peterson Toyota, and all the rest of the companies. I'm not going to rattle them all off right now, but especially Berkeley, who allowed me to transcend from promotional staff to product testing and development and lots of other things as well. All of those companies have allowed me to follow my dreams, and most importantly, You guys have allowed me to follow my dreams by tagging along and following all of our content, 390 some TV shows, a bajillion radio shows and everything else that we've done. You guys have allowed that to happen. And and I appreciate that more than I could ever. Let on in any sort of video at any point. So I hate to come to you guys with with horrible news like this. But it is what it is. And I've lived my life accordingly. And I'm okay with it at this point. So my mindset's good. I'm going to choose to live out these next couple of months in my tightest circle of friends. enjoying my time in the outdoors here around the lake or wherever I happen to be and make the most of it, which is how I live the rest of my life. And it seems like the right way to handle it at this point. So thank you guys for everything. It's very, very important to me. You don't realize how much of a labor of love Fishbowl Thinker has been for the last couple of decades. but consider in your life what could go right, not what could go wrong. It's the chances you don't take you regret. And honestly, from this luxurious position of hindsight that I have right now, I can honestly say that that is the right answer. So thank you guys for everything. Thanks for tagging along all of these years. With that, hug your loved ones, spend more time in the outdoors and go catch some fish. So thanks again, guys. Cheers and fish big.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, wow, Henry, like I say, that's just heartbreaking. And I've got a really hard break here in two minutes. I'm going to give you a minute here to your thoughts quickly. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Scott, you know, when we spoke earlier today, you know how I feel about Chad. That is one of the classiest men I've ever met in my life. He's somebody who I value the conversations that, you know, something that a lot of people may not know about Chad. That man is almost as obsessed with mule deer as I am. And I have had so many great conversations with him at the ISC over the years. And I am telling you, I was heartbroken when I saw that. Just gutted. I mean, he's just such a great person. And he is leaving. One of the cool things is he is leaving a legacy behind him that it's going to be hard for anybody else to measure up to. He has done so much good in the outdoor space. And just – that's what good humans do, man. That's a good man right there. And he – I am praying for a miracle because I'm not ready to not have Chad LaChance around anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. I'm just not ready for it. No, I agree. I agree. And, you know, hey, I'm not the big—I'll be very honest with you. I'm not the biggest fishing guy in the world. I'm more of a hunter. And, of course, Kevin Flesch on our show is the— the angler of the show but yeah you know it just um i sent him a text yesterday and i just said look i said you know yeah i've learned a lot from you from just hearing about you talking about fishing but your biggest impact me is just as a man of just you know how he's carried himself person how he's just a class human yeah how he's just conducted his business and he's always come by the booth and said hey man anytime you need anything i'm here you know and just always willing to give us time and and not to be on a radio show and not not to toot his own horn so to speak but just to um you know help out in any way he can and i know there's millions of kids and thousands of kids i guess i should say that have been been fishing and uh things because of him he's given a lot to the youth community as well and so our thoughts and prayers and i know that's a a cliche saying thoughts and prayers but i really hope hey everyone will say a prayer for chad absolutely All right, Henry, I can't talk anymore, Buzz. So, hey, man, I appreciate your time. Best of luck on your moose hunt, and we'll follow up with you, man. Talk to you soon, man. All right, bud. This is Sportsman Colorado. We'll be back after this. Have you noticed a tick or two on your dog after being out on a walk or hike? If so, you're not alone. The medical team at Lone Tree Veterinary Medical Center is seeing a lot more ticks on dogs this year, with some dogs having more than one. Hey, this is Scott Whatley, and tick bites can create a lot of problems for our pets. Not only do they cause skin inflammation and allergic reactions, They transmit harmful diseases such as Lyme disease, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, tularemia, and ehrlichiosis. All of these can make your pet sick and require medical attention or hospitalization. Tick and flea-borne diseases can also be transmitted to humans. You can protect your pet from tick-related problems with a safe and effective flea and tick preventative, and there are many types to choose from. The medical team at Lone Tree Veterinary Medical Center will be happy to help you select the product that best suits your pet's needs and lifestyle. Just give them a call at 303-708-8050. That's 303-708-8050. Lone Tree Veterinary Medical Center, it's the place where my pets go.
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's been a while, I feel like, since we got together last.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know. It is crazy how so much happens in life sometimes. And you look back, maybe it's five weeks, but it seems like three months with everything going on. Hey, let's start there. And we're not going to get into all the weeds of what's going on from the political standpoint. But certainly, man, we have never seen anything in our life what we've experienced this last six months to a year, have we?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it's been a pretty relentless attack on the gun industry, gun owners, and just in general the law-abiding citizens. I mean, a lot of this is, you know, they say is in the name of public safety, but they don't really seem to be doing a whole lot to make – It's safer out in public. What they are doing with a lot of this stuff is restricting our access to firearms. And plenty of regulation on that already on the federal side of things. Everybody who buys a gun has to do a 4473, go through a quote-unquote extensive background check, a federal NICS background check. Colorado is actually a point-of-contact state, so... Not only do they do the NICS check, but they do a state-level check in Colorado. And Colorado has one of the highest denial rates for attempted firearms purchases. In a lot of cases, we do see those denials overturned during the appeal process because a lot of them are... You know, things that basically Colorado, if they see something that could potentially be a flag to deny someone a firearm purchase, they just hit the deny button. So one of the highest denial rates in the country as a point of contact state. Many states just report directly to NICS, which is the federal system. And gun dealers have access directly to a NICS portal. We actually have to submit through the CBI, which is Colorado Bureau of Investigation. And then they submit to and do the next check. And then they also conduct the state level check. So. And gun stores are required loosely to train their staff on things to look for. We have the right to refuse any gun sale, just as a bartender can refuse you a drink if you've been drinking too much. If things are not lining up for us. We can just refuse service. We're trained in identifying straw purchases and things like that. Straw purchases, somebody buying a gun for somebody else for a number of different reasons. They may not be able to purchase a gun legally. They may be a prohibited person or they may be buying the guns for somebody else so they could... make their way into you know gangland or whatever so there's a lot of different reasons why people would do a that's the first question you mentioned the 44 70 that's the first question yes are you yeah are you buying this gun for you or right or somebody else so um and and they've added additional questions regarding straw purchases on there so we're very well trained in all that um So, you know, we are really the last line of defense to keep the guns out of the wrong hands. And we do a really good job about it, and we take it very seriously. So, you know, all these new rules and regulations are – I don't anticipate them accomplishing a whole lot as far as what they say their intentions are to make the public safer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Are most of the people now kind of used to three-day wait, or you still get people that come in and say, what?
SPEAKER 09 :
Most people are pretty in the loop. I mean, we see a lot of repeat buyers and stuff like that. But there's still people trickling in who don't know about the three-day wait. I mean, I had a guy in here yesterday who just wasn't really clear on that. But not that big of a deal, not the end of the world. It, it hasn't really affected sales. I mean, people were like, I'm not buying guns anymore because there's a three day wait now. No, those people are all buying guns. Um, six and a half percent gun tax, you know, excise tax on the sale of the gun. Um, you know, this is a tax directly on the seller. You know, when you're working on fixed profit margins and trying to compete on a, uh, um, a national level with your pricing, you know, and compete with the e-commerce people and everything like that, you know, six and a half percent of your profit being paid as a tax is, is a huge hit. Most stores can't afford it. Most stores are actually, uh, you know, lining out that item and having to charge it to their customer base. Um, that has, that has, I would say affected business a little bit, you know, and it has been a deterrent for a expensive items coming in on transfer. So that is directly affecting local business. Um, if people start just buying their guns online and out of state now there, we can kind of get into some of the nuances with that here in a second, but you know, if, if people are buying their guns out of state, you know, we're, we're not going to stick around to and make a living off of transfer fees. It's just not going to work. Um, You know, we've got – there's five of us now here at Bighorn, and we are looking for a couple of new team members. We can kind of touch on that a little bit later in the show here. But, you know, to support – you're not just supporting the store. You're supporting, you know, four or five guys here who earn a living, you know, working here and working their butts off. It's really just – Yeah, yeah. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, and like I say, we've got to support you guys. And, you know, when it first came out about the tax, everybody, oh, heading to Wyoming, heading to Wyoming. And I'm like – and I wrote everybody I could. I'm like, look, dude, if you own the store, is that what you'd want to read? Heading to Wyoming? No. You know what? You'd want people to support you, you know. You don't want this, you know. I mean, hey, you know. And so hopefully people will do that. But I wanted to ask – People getting guns shipped to you transfer. The tax is still the tax, isn't it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Or how does that work? So out-of-state vendors are required to remit the tax if they have sold $20,000, a minimum of $20,000 in the prior calendar year. Or if they've hit the threshold of $20,000 in sales to Colorado, they're required to remit the tax the following month. But most small-time sellers are not going to be on the radar of the state of Colorado. I don't know how are they going to police that. Big-time sellers like... I don't know, Bud's gun shop, grab a gun. They just went – I think they just went public on the stock market or something like that. So let's say, like, grab a gun. If they ship $20,000 worth of stuff into the state of Colorado, they're required to remit the tax. Okay. a big company like that that's in the public eye, they're likely going to pay the tax. But are they going to charge the tax to their customer base? Probably not. I mean, you think about how much of their customer base is in Colorado. They've got 50 other states they're shipping guns to.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they would have to set up a whole bookkeeping system for that too, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So if they're just eating the tax for one state, and they have 49 other states to support it, they could probably survive taking the hit for the tax. Whereas on a local shop like us or any of the other guys in town, a lot of great shops in town. We're not the only show in town. We are one of the few left in Denver. And I would say we run an operation that's maybe a little bit different than the other ones out there. We just can't support that. We can't compete with that. We can't afford to pay that tax all the time on every sale that it's applied to. It's really sad to see how that transpired. And I think a lot of people were worried. misled into voting for that tax. Yeah, I agree with you. Will it stick around for the long haul? I sure hope not. But it's something that we're all having to deal with now. We happen to be fortunate enough to have a really loyal customer base where our loyal customers understand how we're handling this and that we're all in it together and we're making it work. And it's been really great to see the support from our loyal customers. You know, new customers, new gun buyers. You know, we tend to work with a lot of new gun buyers because we have a reputation of doing a really good job at that. And to them, it's just something like it's just part of the deal. So they don't... tend to look at it the same way as somebody who's been buying guns in the state of Colorado for the last 10, 15 years. I mean, we've been in business for 13 years this July. So, you know, some of our customers we've had since day one and they got to pay this tax now. So for them, it's, I think a little bit harder to stomach than the new gun buyer who's coming in and maybe only buying a $600 Glock, but On a $600 Glock, I mean, people are paying, or $700 Glock, people are paying like 50 bucks straight to the state of Colorado. And I mean, are they being held accountable on where that money's actually going? Probably not likely. It might be something that we kind of make a big deal about and request to see where that stuff is going. Because I believe there's like a... public records thing or something like that where they're required to if we request that information show us how the tax money is being sent but are you actually seeing the real information or whatever they choose to give you so um anyhow it's uh it's a little rough right now. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, we got, you're in it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're in it to win it. As the saying goes, you're in it, you're in it to stay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
We're, we're here. We're going to do everything we can to keep this going. Um, you know, next year we got the, uh, SB zero zero three coming into effect. You're going to need a special license to purchase a, uh, quote unquote assault weapon. So any gas operated, um, rifle or pistol, um, will require you to take a class and have a special license to purchase. So that goes into effect August of 2026. So there is some time, but I imagine there's going to be a big buying rush coming through spring and summer of next year. So no point putting it off. It's a good time, good availability. It's not crazy hectic. You know, start, make a list of the guns that you want to buy before you are required to have a special license to buy them and maybe start checking those off your list. summertime's often a really good time to get some decent deals on guns.
SPEAKER 01 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, things kind of slow down a bit, and if we've got good back stock and stuff, we're willing to haggle a little bit, you know, and see what kind of deal we can work out for you. So, you know, come down and see us, and if it's an overstock item or something like that, you know, we're likely to work with you on prices right now, and you'll see some promos in July as well. That's our anniversary month, and also... the big anniversary Independence Day on July 4th. So if you're not on our newsletter, we get signed up for that. So you can see any promos coming up, promo codes that we may send you out as a VIP, any deals.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then you do that by just going to your website?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, go to the website, bighornfirearms.com, and sign up for the newsletter there, and we'll get you added and make sure you've got those communications coming your way. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
A lot going on. Yeah. But, hey, the main thing is the message here from this first segment is, hey, keep supporting local gun shops. All right? Hey, these guys are doing their best for us. They're here to help you when you need a last-minute maybe rifle worked on or you need some ammo, different things like that. They're going to be here for you, so we need to be there for them. Once again, if you're just joining us, we are coming to you live from Bighorn Firearms, 2175 South Jasmine Street. We've got to hit a quick break. When we come back, we're going to visit with a little bit more with Ryan Resch. And, hey, if you've got some guns you're not using anymore, don't go anywhere. We'll tell you how Bighorn Firearms can help you.
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This is 560-KLZ, your home station.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. If you're just joining us, Ryan Resch is with us. Big Horn Firearms, 2175 South Jasmine. And I said before the break, Ryan, you know, hey, I think we all end up with some guns sometimes we find ourselves not using as much as we thought we would or just maybe we bought some new one and that old one's still there. There's a way you can help with that.
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You can only fit so many guns in your gun safe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
You can only shoot so many, right? If you want to put a new one in there, sometimes you've got to get one out. Not everybody's wife is okay with a pile of guns next to the gun safe. Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
You must know Victoria because sometimes that's happened. Yeah. So how does it work for folks, you know, if they've got a gun or several guns that maybe they want to move?
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Yeah. We've got a few different options. We buy outright, and then we also offer consignment. We're happy to come out to you as well. You know, no need to, like – pack them all up and haul them down here. You can email ryan at bighornfirearms.com. Let me know you're looking to sell some guns. Give me a brief overview of what you got. If you got pictures, include them. That's awesome. I mean, it definitely helps out kind of. expedite the process so you know we're not just two three emails deep before we start you know talking numbers so if you got pictures that's helpful a list a spreadsheet anything like that ahead of time just attach that to that initial email When you make contact, you can also call the store and talk to one of our staff members. But really, email is the best way to get all that information packaged up so we can really kind of get to work. And once we reach out to you, we can kind of already have our ducks in a row. Doing a house visit is pretty easy as long as you're not in like a huge time crunch or something. Just depends on scheduling and that sort of thing. But usually within the week. um or so we can come out and see you and uh look at what you got okay um you know we we there we offer consignment but we kind of been a little bit more picky in particular on the items we do take on consignment um just because of how the numbers shake out really honestly from for us from a business standpoint i mean because you if
SPEAKER 05 :
You tie up money. You don't know if you're going to have a gun six hours or six years. So, yeah, you need to move them.
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Yeah. I mean, we hustle. Hopefully we're not sitting on anything for that long. But, you know, usually we try to get them going as soon as possible. And we utilize websites like Gun Broker and sites like that to get more visibility on items that we are selling. So we're always looking. We like the old stuff, really, when we're buying or consigning. Old stuff is just really interesting, and it definitely tends to do better in those online settings with those wider audience because guys get – reminiscent um of stuff that they used to have or some guys were just born at the wrong time you know and you know they want to live uh they want a little bit of piece of history from you know maybe like the roaring 20s during prohibition or they want something cool from the cowboy days or something like that so like older hunting stuff always does really well we love buying that stuff uh just collectible winchesters colts smith and wessons that stuff is always just a lot of fun for us you know it's uh it's the stuff we can't order through our distributors you know so we we get excited to be able to buy that stuff um but we do buy modern stuff as well and we will consign it um You know, we tend to look for unique and high-end or collectible items for consignment, but if it's a large collection or something like that, sometimes consignment makes the most sense as well. We charge a flat fee. It's 25%, but that includes any costs that we incur for listing guns online. We have a great success rate of selling guns quickly for people on consignment. We often have people go pick up their consignments from other stores and bring them to us because they had a lackluster maybe experience over there. Or we sold a couple guns for them, and then they had some stuff somewhere else that's been over there for a while. But we make the guns visible. Our consignment program – Typically entails an online listing. Now, if we find an item that seems really great that, hey, we can sell this one in the store or something, we can sometimes negotiate that consignment fee and try to sell the items in store. But really, the success that we've had for turning consignments around quickly for people usually involves listing the item on GunBroker. We handle everything. All you do is give us the guns. Yeah. Before you know it, you'll be picking up a check.
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Much easier way, safer way, the right way, legally, in my opinion. You don't want people coming to your house. What are you going to do? Have people come to your house and look at guns that you don't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. I mean, the days of doing that in the Walmart parking lot are kind of behind us. you know, and not that that was like an illegal thing to do. That was a totally legal thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. Dude, I grew up in Texas, and hey, it wasn't anything just to meet a guy and see a shotgun hanging on a gun rack where they used to be in the back of a pickup, you know. Oh, you want to sell that, you know.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've bought and sold lots of guns from guys who, you know, used to go hunting on their lunch break in high school, you know, and that's just not as common as it used to be, so... you know we keep things legal we keep things uh seamless and safe and you don't really have to think about this or that you know there's just quite a bit of um interaction that goes on with selling these guns on gun broker too i mean well one we're taking professional photographs we're writing up a really nice listing um where we'll include a little bit of history of the gun uh we'll we'll really tell a story about the gun that we're selling Um, if, if, and when it's required, you know, sometimes certain guns are pretty straightforward, but we like to tie like a little story in there, some history, um, high, high quality, uh, professional photography of all the items, um, the professional listing. And then we do all the customer service, you know, handling, uh, receiving the payments, handling all the shipping, handling all the questions about the gun. Um, Sometimes there's returns and things like that. People aren't happy with the gun. We handle all that stuff. You don't have to think about any of it. We just kind of give you an idea of what we think the gun should sell for. We agree on a price. There's a little bit of paperwork involved, and then you're just hanging out waiting for checks to start rolling in. Yeah.
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It's a pretty good deal. Yeah. Hey, one thing I want to touch on, you got your intro to pistol class and a great, great class. And, you know, hey, all these last few years, I know there's been a lot of people buy their first firearms. I mean, for sure. So definitely people should look at this class. But I do want to mention this. I don't forget. So for instructors, you mentioned that, hey, you're maybe looking for some qualified, and I want to do air quotes around that, instructors.
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So what does that mean? So per the new state requirements, all instructors are required to get basically a license, a permit from the state of Colorado. Here we go again. Okay. They really love their licensing money. So all instructors must register with their local sheriff and pay for a special permit to instruct the class, and their materials have to be approved by that local sheriff. So we were running our concealed carries in-house. We decided the way that we were doing it, we had an on-site staff member who was teaching the class, Um, with the new requirements, eight hour, it's more of a staffing thing than anything. So we are looking currently to partner with, um, a qualified and certified, uh, Colorado state certified instructor, um, to utilize our classroom. Uh, we have the, we've had great success filling those classes in the past when we were offering them and we would, uh, advertise those classes and, and, and work hard to get those classes full for that instructor. So if anybody's out there who is a certified instructor interested in partnering with Bighorn firearms for their classroom portion of, of the class, we're interested in talking with you. Um, We do still offer the intro to pistol, but that is really an introductory class. That's for the new shooter to get comfortable handling their firearm and ask all the questions that they want to ask. after the initial purchase is made, and we offer that currently twice a month. You can look at our schedule online, contact us directly to sign up for the class here at the store, so either call or email. We're still working on getting our new scheduling system buttoned up to accept the payments and the scheduling online. Be patient with us as we kind of work out the bugs of the new class offerings and that sort of thing. But, you know, in the meantime, if you're looking for a good concealed carry class, we do have some recommendations as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, good deal. Another new partnership for you, U.S. Law Shield.
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Yes. We did just sign on with them. So we will be offering their product here in store. We will have them in store for special events and things of that nature and possibly even bringing in some of their instructors to start teaching those classes. So if you don't have self-defense insurance, it is something to get serious about if you're carrying a gun. Even if you don't carry a gun, it applies to any mode of self-defense, but especially if you're carrying a gun. It is highly recommended to carry a personal defense insurance like that. U.S. Law Shield has revamped their program. They've got some really great products. It's pretty cut and dry. In the past, sometimes some of those offerings are pretty confusing as to what you get at what level. Lost Shield has dumbed that down quite a bit and made it really easy to understand for consumers. So if you have any questions about that or want to be… And you've got all the info here. Yes, yes. Just come in the store and talk to one of our associates at the counter, and we'll get you all squared away.
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Right. Once again, if you're just joining us, Ryan Resch is with us. It's Bighorn Firearms, 2175 South Jasmine Street. And what are your hours?
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Tuesday through Friday, 11 to 6, and Saturdays from 10 to 5 are what we've been running for, oh, I don't know. It's probably been a couple of years now that we've been running that schedule.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't anticipate any changes, but you never know.
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Yeah. And real quick, suppressors, man, still a good time to get those.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And there might be some things on the horizon with that, but we don't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Man, there's just so much going on right now with all this new regulations and legal stuff. Some of it good, some of it bad, and some of the good things could turn out to be bad things. Oh, yeah. And vice versa. Yeah. You know, get online and find a good resource to get your information from and stay on top of it. And don't just rely on one resource, you know. Sure. Make sure you're looking around and you're double-checking, making sure you're getting good information from people. You know, the suppressor times, we're still seeing quite a few. We've seen it 24 to 48 hours. At times, they can take longer. I've got a gentleman right now that's going on 90 days, I believe, and he's a little bit frustrated. But I've seen a lot of smiling faces coming in and picking up silencers in 24 hours. It's 14 months, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've waited multiple times, 12, 14 months.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, availability is still good too, you know, and we've got new stuff coming in all the time. We do rotate through our inventory. We keep a good inventory though. So the nice thing about buying a silencer directly from us, from our inventory is it's here today and we can assign that to you once you create your silencer shop account. and get the paperwork rolling within 48 hours. You buy a silencer from an online seller, you could be waiting up to two to three weeks before it even arrives here in the store because of Form 3 processing and shipping and all of those things. So buying from our inventory gets the paperwork rolling ASAP. So, yeah, it's still a good time, and I don't see anything with – Previous purchases kind of turn around and bite you in the backside on that stuff. But purchases in the future could look very different depending on the way that certain bills maybe play out on a federal level. Yeah.
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A lot going on, but, hey, this is a great store. Super knowledgeable staff, friendly staff. They'll be glad to help you. It's Big Horn Firearms, 2175 South Jasmine Street in Denver. Hey, when you come in, let them know you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado, and we'd appreciate that as well. So, Ryan, we appreciate it, bud. Thanks, Scott. Thanks so much. Thanks for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend, and we'll talk to you next week.
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