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In this insightful episode of 'Rush to Reason', John Rush hosts John Hart, CEO of Open the Books, for an enlightening discussion on the pervasive issue of government waste. Together, they explore the historic opportunity to dismantle the longstanding administrative state, emphasizing the importance of transparency and legislative action. Hart sheds light on his organization's role in identifying waste, urging citizens and Congress to take decisive action.
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All right, we are back. Hour 2, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Of course, Charlie is our engineer. John Hart joining us, CEO of Open the Books. Like I said earlier, John, welcome. How are you? I'm great. Thanks for having me. Always a joy. And first thing I ask most guests right now, especially those that are on our side of the aisle, is how much have you enjoyed the past week?
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I really think this is a 1989 moment for the United States. It's a chance to tear down the bureaucratic wall that has separated we the people from their government. So we've had this 100-year growth of the administrative state, and there's a historic opportunity. to reverse it. So I'm very hopeful. There's a lot of ways you can go off the rails, but there's a lot of things that can go right. And I have great confidence in we the people's wisdom to push things in the right direction.
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And again, for those of you listening, we interview open the books, you know, John, you and others from your organization on a pretty routine basis. And you guys have done just a A how should I say just over the years, you guys have done just phenomenal work when it comes to finding, you know, government waste. A lot of the things that I know this administration is going to be looking at, you guys have already done. So I guess really quick before we get into some of the things that your thoughts are when it comes to Doge and so on. How much or has this administration reached out to you guys to even align with some of the facts that you guys have found when it comes to government waste over the years?
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Yeah, well, look, I don't want to – I'm always hesitant to be too specific about when people reach out to us, but I'll tell you that we've been a very close contact.
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We want recordings.
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With decision makers, right? Exactly. Speaking of – yeah, I would say visibility does not mean voyeurism. There's no surveillance.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and I also know, John, that with what you guys put out, the fact that you've got not only a website, but you do these sorts of interviews and different things as well, and you'll pull out different papers on things that you recently find on certain things. I mean, that stuff is public. I mean, any of these folks could have read those things over the years, and I've got to believe they have.
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Yeah, I'll say, just a couple of tidbits I'm comfortable sharing. I mean, yes, the administration's reached out to us. We've got great contacts over there. But I'm also encouraged by how much initiative Congress is taking. So there's a Doge caucus in the House and Senate. They've already used a lot of our material. There's an open line of communication. And that's encouraging because really, for these changes to go into effect, they have to be made permanent through legislative action. So I'm a fan of a lot of the executive orders, particularly the ones on DEI and affirmative action and energy. Those are really helpful and necessary. But you've got to lock these savings in through legislation. Absolutely. And that's what we hope to see happen. And I worked on the Hill for years. I was the late Senator Coburn's longtime comms director. He was a legendary fiscal conservative, proved that you really can cut waste if you focus on it and do the hard work. We got rid of earmarks for a decade and helped write the legislation that actually enabled Open the Books to exist. So we created USA Spending. which put all federal spending online, that has empowered citizens to hold their government accountable. Because, again, it's this belief that the elites in our country, they're not in Washington. They're people driving right now, listening, who care about the future of the country and want to be involved and just want the information that they need to make good decisions. And so we have a tremendous... faith and confidence in the collective wisdom of the crowd.
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John, how has it changed the narrative and, shall we say, the political lay of the land for you to have, for the first time ever, the head honcho at X basically broadcasting all government waste? So for the first time ever, you've got Elon Musk telling everybody how right John Hart has been. Well, it is extraordinary. I hear he has posters of you all over his home.
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I doubt that. No, but it is thrilling, and I cannot tell you how gratifying it is. And it's gratifying because, again, we were in the trenches doing the dirty job of identifying waste 20 years ago. So my old boss, Coburn, offered the amendment to defund the bridge to nowhere back in 2005. We lost that 82 to 15, but that really, that was a key moment in the tea party era that, and, and we did, again, we got rid of earmarks for a decade. We cut spending year to year for the first time since the end of the Korean war back in 2012 and 13. But imagine what we could have done. We had, we had an Elon Musk in our corner back then. And so it makes a huge difference. You know, it, it takes the bully pulpit and turns it up to 11 and, and it's really an unprecedented opportunity.
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Really quick, there was news that came out today, of course, you know, Trump basically, not basically, Trump put a pause right now on, you know, federal grant programs reviewing whether they align or not. And I realize that's dicey. There'll, of course, be lawsuits coming out right off the bat because in some cases those were already discussed. you know, earmarked by Congress, although I don't disapprove of what Trump's doing because what he's really doing is putting a lot of people on notice where, hey, if you are not legit and you're just on the dole, we are coming after you.
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Yeah, look, to be honest with you, I think the pause idea, you know, I have mixed feelings on it because it feels like a bit of an unforced error when they don't need to do that. The executive orders were written really well. And the Constitution gives the president all kinds of tools to play hardball with Congress. He doesn't have the authority to really pause spending, but he does have the authority to veto bills. And so I hope it just, at a minimum, puts Congress on notice to say, he's not messing around here.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think he and his staff around him know what you just said, but I think, again, this is just a signal. This is that flare that just went up that said, hey, guys, we aren't dinking around here.
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No, I mean, a lot of it, John, just seems like Trump does this to put the wind in the sails of Doge. We're putting you on notice. Yeah, put everybody on notice and just keep the heat on and say, hey, this isn't going away. This is mounting.
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Go ahead, John. Right, right. No, I absolutely hope that's the case. I think when you're in these titanic fights over spending, you've got to pick the poster child of waste really carefully. And so that's what we did with the bridge to nowhere and, you know, shrimp on a treadmill back in the day. And last week, the focus was on the very woke, you know, LA fire department. And that's where you want the focus to stay. You don't want to have situations where what if someone accidentally doesn't get their Medicaid payment? Or what if some police department is inadvertently defunded, you know, through the pause? Then you really put yourself behind the eight ball. And that's why it's just a tactical difference that I wouldn't have done the pause quite in that way. And I would have.
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really just push for the permanent cuts and spending because that's really what people want they don't want these things paused they want them done that's right they want them out budget john do you favor doing just one big thing like the bridge to nowhere and having that be the one that you you know like you just said that everybody focuses on or would you like to roll one out every single week or will people become numb to it then No, it's really a both-and.
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The image that I think of a lot is that as transparency can cut through government like water cuts through stone, when it finds cracks, it can wash away mighty walls of opposition. So you want to keep that steady flow going, and even if these examples seem trivial or redundant or repetitive... All of that drip, drip, drip, drip, drip really makes a difference over the long haul. And then you have an issue with DEI that's blatantly... DEI itself is unconstitutional. It's a violation of the Civil Rights Act to discriminate on the basis of race. And then people realize, wow, that's really nutty that the government has been funding this, and they've been funding misinformation censorship through the federal government. Those cracks in the edifice of the administrative state are big openings, but you've got to keep that. So it's really both and. It's not an either or. You've got to have the crazy examples, but you have to just relentlessly put out information.
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Realistically, and I know this is hard, you don't have a crystal ball, I don't either, and we don't know what the future holds, but realistically, in the next 12 months, let's say, what do you really feel this administration, along with, of course, Congress, and you've got the Senate involved in this as well, but when it's all said and done, how much wasteful spending do you really think they can tackle and take out of the budget?
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Well, it depends on their level of courage. If they have a maximum level of courage, then they really could cut out about $2 trillion.
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Is that $2 trillion over how many years?
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Like a third of the budget, like per year. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, because we spent $3 trillion on assistance in 2024.
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The overall budget is, I think, 7.6. The number that I use a lot is, in the 1980s, the Grace Commission found that one out of every three tax dollars is wasted. If you extrapolate that to the base numbers, you get it. But it is true, you can't do that unless you're really willing to, what I would call, save Social Security and Medicare. The big myth in Washington is that when politicians say, we're not going to touch Social Security and Medicare, That's code for them saying, we're going to let Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt because we don't have the courage to address reform. And we really can make sure that those programs exist and are fully funded for middle and lower income people. But you've got to means test it. You've got to do some things to tweak it to make sure that it really is going to be there in the future. And if they're willing to think big in that scope, then you really can get to that big number. Otherwise, you're looking at more in the $500 or $600 billion range.
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Which, by the way, is a lot of money, but nothing compared to what you said a moment ago.
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Right, right.
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It's a quarter of what you were talking about.
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But the one thing that's really important to think about in terms of the scope is that there's this fallacy of the fixed pie. Like, socialists think about money as a fixed pie. Like, it's all about redistributing the size of a pie. But in a dynamic growing economy... The pie is always growing, because you have investment and you have new wealth created. A lot of the junk in the federal budget is really focused on stopping new innovation from happening, particularly in energy. In other words, if you cut EPA by 50%, you may have a four-fold increase in energy innovation. just by getting the stupid regulations out of the way. So then you really create economic growth, and you can't really deal with our debt and deficits unless we have a very dynamic, vibrant, growing economy. And the administration gets that. That's why he's focusing on AI. He's focusing on energy. So these things really work in tandem. Gotcha.
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Gotcha. Good stuff. John, I always appreciate it very much. Open the Books, and those of you listening, openthebooks.com. And, John, you guys have got stuff there literally on an ongoing basis. Folks just need to click and follow. Thank you so much. You betcha, John. Appreciate you very much. Have a great night. Again, John Hart, CEO of Open the Books, veteran windows and doors, 35% off windows, 45% off doors. Call Dave today. Free labor with that as well. Find him at klzradio.com.
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putting reason into your afternoon drive this is john rush all right we are back rush to reason denver's afternoon rush klz 560 thank you all for joining us we appreciate it very much and one thing that i was gonna if i could have kept john on a little longer i would have but he's busy and has all sorts of things to do and does different interviews throughout the day as well i try to honor those guys this time when they're on and he already spent probably five more minutes with us than what had actually been planned but one thing i would ask i think andy you had the same question is how many u.s worker how many federal u.s federal workers may just quit given that trump's their new boss and he's requiring them to come back into the office and they may just say you know what i'm done there's about he's anti-dei that's right so there's roughly not counting the post office There's about 2.5 million federal workers. Think about that number for a moment. 2.5 million federal workers.
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And you're talking outside the post office?
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Yeah, there's 600,000 roughly in the post office, and there's about 3 million, 3.1 million federal workers. So think about this for a moment, folks. We've got roughly, roughly 350 million people in the U.S. That counts old people that aren't working anymore, young people that can't work, babies, and so on. So think about this. There is literally, literally, if you include the post office in this, which they're a federal worker, if you think about this, there is one for ten as far as how many workers in the federal government versus people. Folks, far too many. My gosh. I don't care if you're a federal worker listening to me and you don't agree with me. Far too many workers in the federal government if there's a one for ten ratio.
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Well, I don't know if you noticed, I almost passed out from sheer joy.
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Sorry, I'm off on that too. He'd be 30, for 10% you'd need 30 million, so 1%. Yeah, whatever. Still, one in 100.
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It's still crazy.
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Still too many.
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I almost passed out from pure joy just at John's suggestion of cutting the EPA in half.
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I'm okay with just getting rid of it.
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I despise the EPA.
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Because, frankly, and for those of you listening that would say, well, John, how are you going to keep the rivers clean? You have states. We have states' rights. They all have their own health departments, by the way. It is so much different. dual things going on with so many different things in this country it's just layer upon layer upon layer of government by the way from everything that's local because i got a story for you that goes along with this so we are talking from local all the way to federal the amount of additional layers that are there on in some cases people literally doing the same job over and over again it's nonsense
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Right. Duplication. It happens all over the place. There's so much redundancy. And also, hey, without the EPA's help, California managed to destroy their water supply. OK, like you said, states can make good or bad decisions and then reap what they sow. We don't need the EPA to tell us what to do in what we need. Our officials right there in each state who have to respond to who the voters every couple of years and basically go back to the voters and say, OK, I managed the environment well enough, but I didn't wreck your life. How is the balance? Do you want to reelect me?
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Yeah. In other words, Andy, instead of these positions, because it happens in Colorado, it happens on a national basis. The heads of these departments, again, federally or locally, they are not elected folks. They are appointed. Which means they can't be unelected. One of my biggest beefs. They actually, in most cases, and this is not an exaggeration, have more power over you and your business than those elected officials do. Yeah. These appointees end up with far more power. You look at Colorado and the Department of Health, and these folks are appointed, by the way, to the Department of Health. The reality is that Department of Health, in a lot of cases, has more power than your local city council, your local mayor, your local county commissioners do.
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John, I mean, look national. Yes, absolutely. You're totally right. Look national for a second. You only have 50 governors. You only have 100 senators. Okay, that's only 150 people. That's an incredibly small, incredibly powerful group, correct?
SPEAKER 14 :
All elected, though.
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And yet, ask any one of them to override the EPA.
SPEAKER 14 :
They can't. They can't. No, they can try to pass law.
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They wouldn't have a chance.
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They can try to get together and put some bills together to where they could pass something that would control, quote unquote, the EPA. But at the end of the day, yeah, they don't hold a candle to the power that EPA officials, ATF officials, on down the line we go, Andy. Which means our lives are being run by people we can't vote out.
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And this is something that conservatives have to start realizing. Conservatives, if you're listening right now, you probably know a lot of young people. And young people, by and large, don't like the right. Look at them and say, you know, one thing about our side is this. We don't want your life controlled by people you can't vote out. Right now, your life is being controlled by an awful lot of people you cannot vote out. You can't vote them out. You have no control over those who are controlling you. We think you deserve that control.
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The only thing you can try to do in the case of, for example, your Department of Health and your state agencies is if you vote out your governor and make a change there, you might get some different people appointed to those positions that more align with you. But even that sometimes can be a crapshoot because depending upon the power that those in that department have and yield, by the way, They can become very difficult to replace, Andy. Right. And it happens constantly. Point being, a lot of these departments, and I mean a lot of these departments, three-letter agencies, I should say, federally speaking, And I guess really what needs to happen is, okay, do we believe as a country in states' rights? If we do, which I do, if we believe in states' rights, then some of these federal agencies, EPA being one of them, no longer need to exist. You know, you might have a board, by the way. Don't call it the EPA and don't have the thousands of workers, which if I looked it up, there's probably tens of thousands of workers that work for the EPA, Andy. You could literally do what the EPA does as an overarching board to watch over what states are doing with 10 people.
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By the way, if I may, are you pretty excited about Donald Trump's idea of over 80,000 IRS slash border agents? That's a great example, by the way. I love it. Okay, so somebody comes into power and they can actually move this people.
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By the way, I wasn't too far off. There's 18,700 EPA workers.
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Right.
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By the way, that's 18,690 more than they need. Yes. In my opinion. Look, they don't need them.
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But here's a great example. Once again, young people or anyone who knows a young person, listen for a moment. Donald Trump comes in, gets rid of the EV mandate. What does that mean? People look and say, oh, he doesn't care about the planet. Okay, let me ask you something, young person. Do you want to help pay for somebody else's car?
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Yeah, I own one. My car.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
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You want to help pay for my car?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you want to help pay for John Rush's car?
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Literally, that's what you're doing.
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Well, they should because John Rush is a great guy. Thank you. I think John Rush deserves to have these poor young kids who are trying to get enough money to go to college and are working at McDonald's. They should also pay for John Rush's car because you're a great guy, John. you know and you care literally that that explanation is what's happening andy you do you guys want to help pay for john rush's car i don't think so no look by the way i don't want you right guys the evs if they're such a great idea they'll sell on their own and here's the thing evs right now are a toy for the rich if you take away subsidies they're a toy for the rich does that mean i'm against them no i think they're a great toy for the rich i think it's great i've said it many times and And you're a car guy. You're going to have every kind of car because you're— Well, and part of that is because I wanted to learn— You're an imbalanced person. You really like cars.
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And I wanted to, on the weekend show, be able to explain how they work and the good, the bad, the ugly of all of that. I wanted to be able to do that during the day as well, which, by the way, we have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but seriously, folks, you've got to understand. John, we'll go down the elevator after the show. He's still talking cars.
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Well, and the reality is— It's a religion. We have literally interviewed so many quote-unquote experts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
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On EVs, Andy, you've been with me when we've done this, and you get them on air, and I'm not trying to exaggerate because it's not. I literally know more about them than they do, and they're supposedly the quote-unquote experts. That's because, Andy, when you own one and you deal with all the factions of, the good, the bad, and otherwise, you start learning more. All of the idiosyncrasies of that particular product. And by the way, Andy's right. Those that can afford one, great. Go buy one on your own. And those that maybe still want one but can't afford one, well, guess what? Wait around about two or three years and those new ones will become used ones. Yeah. And you can go buy one of those, by the way. Sure. And off you go.
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See, another thing I always ask young people, John, along this line, do you want to pay for other people's activism? No. Okay. Because you can't be into all forms of activism. You're going to have a few that are mainly your thing, right? You want to save, I don't know, the spotted owl. You want to... I don't even know what those look like. But you want to save the whale. You want to save some fish in California. You want to save whatever. Okay. You know, recycling. Okay. You're into recycling. These are all stupid, by the way. But... Whoever puts those things through, they are all free to pay for that activism on their own. They put these things through government to force you to help pay for their activism. Shouldn't you be able to choose what issues are important to you? Shouldn't you be able to choose your own activism and fund it on your own?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Absolutely, Andy. Great explanation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why is this a hard sales pitch for kids? I don't think it is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because they've never been taught what you just said. They've never been taught that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Shouldn't you be able to choose your own activism?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Shouldn't you be able to choose your own car?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. But see, they've never been taught that, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they haven't.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right. I talked in the last hour and really towards the end, some of you listening may or may not have heard that. So today, this particular time slot, I should say, would be a good time to recap what we were talking about during that hour because we didn't get a chance to really cover everything. And I wanted to get Andy's input on a few things. And that is, I asked the question. who really is running the Colorado GOP. And before some of you supporters of Dave Williams just, you know, are shouting at the radio saying, well, Dave is, Dave is. Yeah, no, he's not. Sorry, guys, you're not going to convince me.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, he's not. Look, like I said, I consider Dave to be more competent than those who work for him.
SPEAKER 14 :
A little.
SPEAKER 04 :
So I think Dave is part of a team that, of those who are running that group. I do believe it's though it's being led by Oltman. It's being led by Chuck and Julie. It's being led. And I do believe that Dave is on that team. I think it's being led by Matt Arnold. I think it's being led by, um, a few others, you know, the Imers, uh, Charlie had mentioned, I think he's right there, you know, I think that basically you've got a very hardcore activist group. They know that they are tied in all over the state with the Liberty groups and Tea Party groups, and they can turn out a tremendous number of people for meetings. They cannot compete in primaries or general elections at all, but you don't have to do that to seize power.
SPEAKER 14 :
You don't. Not in this case.
SPEAKER 04 :
And for Dave, all he wants is $200,000 a year.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, in his next position, whatever that happens to be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, if Dave thinks he's going to run for governor, I mean, unless he's thinking of soaking his campaign for a bunch of money, which he might, okay, if he thinks he can possibly even come within 20 points for the governorship, and he can't, it won't even be 30, within 30, okay, if he thinks that, then he has literally lost his mind. Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Or didn't have much to start with.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're so mean. You see, for me, it's never been personal. You hate the guy. I got nothing personal against Dave Williams. I just look at the things he's done, and I'm just like, please don't do these things.
SPEAKER 14 :
I just dislike the guy because of what he's done, politically speaking, to our party in this state.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and you're a Colorado native. I am not, and that's why it's more personal for you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think he's a weasel. I think Dave's out for Dave only, despite what anybody out there might say. His actions prove that I'm correct in that. And by the way, no one's been able to come on this program yet. There's only been two people that have tried. No one's been able to come on this program yet and disprove me. No. Not one person?
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
And even those of you that have tried via text message and emails and things like that, I typically come back at you with just a few answers. Then they run. Yeah, and even you can't defend beyond that. And I've said it all along. I said it from the very get-go, literally not quite two years ago. Pretty close to two years ago, a little less than two years ago, I came out and said, this guy is trouble. He is looking out for his own best interests. He doesn't care anything about the state of Colorado and or the party in Colorado. He is here for the 200K and whatever that next position happens to be out of it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. And what I've really noticed is none of his defenders can defend him. That's the thing that keeps coming up over and over and over. As you know, I was on a Zoom call with some people who are running to lead the party in Arapahoe County, the chair. By the way, after the Zoom call, I decided to run for chair.
SPEAKER 14 :
Fine. Good job.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, if there are too many Dave supporters, I won't have a chance, but who knows? Whatever. I've been the vice chair, so at least I know what I'm doing.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what it entails.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, anyway, but I asked a couple questions. Some people said I was too harsh, which maybe.
SPEAKER 14 :
Too harsh for asking questions?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah, because what I wanted was this. I said, look, I said, in these positions, you will be voting on state party leadership. So we need to talk about your support because they had already said they are fully, absolutely in support of Dave Williams and everything he has done. I said, OK, if that's the case, do you think that the state party should be attacking Republican candidates in primaries? They did this. Do you think the state party should put paid for by the Colorado Republican Committee on mailers and newspapers that they send out that advocate for the state chair's campaign and attack? other republican candidates do you think they should be doing these things and they just said well we don't think we don't think that was happening i said that's fact that's actually history that happened yes well we don't we that's your opinion that's not my opinion that actually happened can absolutely no ability to defend against any of it okay it just blows my mind john
SPEAKER 14 :
That goes back to my whole point with asking this question as to who's really running the party is because of the things that you're saying, and I'll add another layer onto that. Given the fact that Dave himself... Literally, I mean, he's been on a couple of different programs. And by the way, the people that he was talking to ate his lunch. So the reality is he won't go on any program where he feels that he's got a disadvantage in that particular conversation. In other words, if the other person is smarter than him and can defend their positions better than he can, he just won't go on and talk to them at all. This is my reasoning for coming up with who's really running the party. Because if Dave was this smart... as it seems in regards to some of these political maneuvers he's making in getting the power of the party in his hands, trust me, he would be on air. He would be debating me. He'd be debating Andy online. He would be doing all sorts of things in the public square to defend himself. The reality is he can't. He won't. Therefore, proving my point, he's not the guy pulling the strings for the party. Others are. Yeah, he's the front man. That's all he is.
SPEAKER 04 :
What really scares me, John, is their entire power play is this. We can't win any debates anywhere. So what we're going to do is simply rally numbers. And we're going to rally numbers around the state from the crowd that doesn't care about winning debates. They simply know, look, we hate the open primaries and we must get rid of them no matter what. We hate petition candidates. There are those rich folk who don't go to assembly and caucus. We got to get rid of them no matter what. They can't defend any of it. So all they do is rally numbers. And honestly, John, is it going to work this year? I think probably.
SPEAKER 14 :
My prediction is this meeting they're having Thursday night, unless a lot of you listening change your ways, and some of you core people understand what I'm saying in reality of who's actually running the party, unless some of you change your ways and your thoughts and your votes as to what's going to happen on Thursday, Dave seizes more power at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's what's going to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And at that point, folks, I hate to say this, it's almost like this last election with Trump and Kamala. If Kamala would have won, you stick a fork in the United States, it's done. If Dave Williams gets his way Thursday, stick a fork in Colorado politics on our side of the aisle, it's done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. But let me ask you, put it out two years then. Obviously, look, if Dave and his people stay in control of the Colorado Republican Party, which I think is very possible. Mm-hmm. We're done. Because they'll opt out of the open primary. And I have listed for people in detail the consequences of that. They're going to be devastating. And they're going to punish petition candidates, which means they're going to get the worst candidates. And they're going to put through. If they had gotten their way, we would have lost the House for Donald Trump. We've looked at the candidates. That's not an if, maybe, or might. We've done the math. We've done the math. It isn't close. Had the state party gotten their way, we would have lost the House for Donald Trump. Okay. If they're in charge for the next two years, they're going to run the party into the ditch with that kind of power. What happens then? Do people finally say that's enough? Or will they have amassed so much power that they are in power in perpetuity?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, because of the changes in the bylaws and what they're trying to get done right now, it will become extremely difficult to change the tide of that on down the road two, four, six, eight years. Not saying that it couldn't ever be changed and or be changed back to where power changes back to the people, which, by the way, it's ironic that Dave will tell you that that's what he's doing right now in relation to these rule changes is he's trying to get more power back to the people. No, Dave, you're doing just the opposite. You're taking it away from people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anyone who knows anything about numbers understands you're trying to shrink the pool so you're a bigger fish.
SPEAKER 14 :
Shrinking the pot. Come on. Shrinking the pot. That's all you're doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
At the end of the day, you're not doing anything other than that. Right, Andy?
SPEAKER 04 :
John, I'm sorry, but I got no other wording for it. You have to be really dumb to buy that line. I mean, you've got to be hurting, okay? And I know that sounds mean. I know it sounds mean, but my goodness. I'm sorry. The numbers are what they are, John. He's looking at a group that overwhelmingly votes against him at the state central committee, and he's trying to shrink that group by over 80%, by about 90%, okay? There is no other conclusion to that. Mm-mm. It's a power grab.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Somebody asked the question, do Democrats in Colorado have an open primary?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. Yeah, both parties have an open primary. Really quick for those who don't know, unaffiliated vote. What this means is unaffiliated voters can choose which primary they wish to vote in. So they can vote in the Republican primary or the Democrat primary. Usually the Republican primary is going to be a lot juicier.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. There's more going on on our side.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because the party's dominated by the left. Yeah. The state is dominated by the left.
SPEAKER 04 :
The state's dominated by the left, which means what? They got a ton of incumbents who I would run against them. So they're going to participate in our side.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, they rescued us from our state party's endorsements.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
They gave us Jeff Crank.
SPEAKER 14 :
They gave us... They weren't super smart to... in how they handled things this last election, because when it was all said and done, what they did came back to bite them.
SPEAKER 04 :
The unaffiliated?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, the Democrats. What they tried to do with us and our party and getting some of our hardcore folks elected, it didn't work out that way for them, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. For those who have forgotten, the Democrats poured money in to try to get Jeff Hurd to not be our candidate. They tried to help Ron Hanks. Right. And Jeff Hurd still beat him by like 14 points or something like that. I mean, they tried, though. They really tried. They did. And this is what blows my mind, John. We'll end with this and then go to break. These people who say we've got to opt out of the primary, they say that the Democrats who infiltrate amongst the unaffiliated and vote in our primary are trying to give us these milquetoast moderate candidates. When all of the money we see spent by Democrats in our primaries all goes to their kind of candidates.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's the opposite, actually.
SPEAKER 04 :
Basically, the Democrats looked at the list of candidates endorsed by the state party. Mm-hmm. And that's who they supported.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, really quick to close with this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ultimately, it's because they have a better understanding of what candidates can win in Colorado versus what our hardcore right does here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it does. And I think that's true of the hardcore of either party. The hardcore left doesn't know what wins. The hardcore right just doesn't know what wins. And I'm hardcore right. I hate to say that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Somebody else said that you know that all the other talk shows in Denver, AM Radio, have called on Dave to come on their programs too. They've also welcomed the supporters to call in. Regardless, that doesn't happen not just on this program but others as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, they won't debate. They can't debate.
SPEAKER 14 :
There is a couple of stations because I've seen some of the posts and so on. So those of you that are listening that may not know this, there are a couple of what I call small players. in this arena that dave will come on occasionally and have a conversation with problem is it's it's such a minor you know there's such minor players there's there's no effect of that whatsoever well it's very minor players where he will go and speak only to his base correct right yep exactly all right geno's auto service up next and if you've got any problems with your car geno's is there to take care of you and it's geno's auto service.com don't forget geno starts with a j
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SPEAKER 14 :
Back to Rush to Reason. All right, really quick. Costco has been put on notice, by the way, by a lot of politicians that if they don't change their DEI practices, it will not end well. We'll see how that fight goes because Costco is pretty hardcore left.
SPEAKER 04 :
They are very hardcore left, and the question is, does bigotry sell anymore? It has for quite a while. But over the last few years, it's been going down.
SPEAKER 14 :
I agree. All right. In other news, we were talking earlier. Andy asked this question. And ironically, Richard sent me this article just a few minutes ago. And this just came out late this afternoon. President Donald Trump's administration. is set to offer every single federal worker the chance to take a deferred resignation with a severance package of roughly eight months of pay and benefits. A senior administration official told NBC that they expect 5% to 10% of the federal workforce to quit. They estimate that could lead to around $100 billion in savings. So that's your answer to your question earlier, Andy. Okay. Which I didn't know was going to come out in the news.
SPEAKER 04 :
Eight months is a pretty good payout. Yeah. I've seen a year plus, but eight months, I've also seen well under eight months, so that's not bad.
SPEAKER 14 :
So some of these people that just don't like this administration, knowing that over the course of the next four years, how much more difficult will this job get? Will I even have this job? Will they figure out other ways to cut this job? I think their percentage, Andy, is probably not far off, because if you're in that position thinking, hmm, hmm, do I really need to be here? Can I take eight months pay and leave? Yeah, I think some of them will take that.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Big question for you, though, John. We're talking about a lot of liberals who work in government and have for many years. How many of them are confident they can work outside of government? Because eight months, that'll evaporate.
SPEAKER 14 :
These will be people that are one of two things, is my opinion. Older? Either you're older and you know that you're on that path anyways. Okay. You might even have some pension that's already laid up. And that eight months, by the way, might even put you to the place where, hey, I'm just going to call it quits. Or you've only been there two or three years and you realize that, man, this is going to be a long road to hoe to get my pension in the next 20 to 25 years. And I don't think I can do this. So I'm gone.
SPEAKER 04 :
I wonder how long the offer is going to be there. What if they decide six months from now? I don't think the offer will be there.
SPEAKER 14 :
The offer is set to go out to the federal workforce through a new system that Trump's administration is setting up that gives officials the ability to email all federal employees at once. In the email will be a draft resignation letter for them to review. If a person wishes to resign, they will be able to reply with the word resign. The resignation period will begin Tuesday and go through February 6th, to answer your question, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Elon Musk had said earlier this year that there would be a pretty generous package offered to people to leave. So, you know, this has been in the works for a while.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, in other words, this is going to go out Tuesday, and they've got a week to decide. Right. Roughly. Actually, not even a week, because Tuesday will be the 4th, so they're not even going to have—they've got three days to decide, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, this is really interesting, John, because between places like CNN, right? Yeah. Okay, follow me here. Between them and all these federal workers, it's going to be the Libby's, the liberals who are going to leave. A lot of liberals are suddenly going to be pouring into— The workplace.
SPEAKER 14 :
Looking for jobs. Yeah, no offense. It's not going to end well.
SPEAKER 04 :
You don't think so?
SPEAKER 14 :
No. And do you want to know why? Why? I'll tell you next hour. Okay. As an employer, I will tell you next hour. Because it's not going to end well for them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Would you as an employer want somebody who just ran from the government?
SPEAKER 14 :
That will be the major question. We have one guest, by the way, at the top of the hour. Then I'll answer Andy's question after that. Aiden Grogan is going to join us. And actually, we're going to talk about the fact that there is a huge and we've talked about this before on this program many, many times, especially through covid. Is there a huge depopulation agenda that is headed up by all sorts of different private and government entities? We'll talk about that next. We'll be right back. Myself, Andy Pate, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Aidan Grogan joining us now, writer, history PhD at Liberty University and a Young Voices contributor. Aidan, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
Doing great. Glad to be here.
SPEAKER 16 :
Always a joy having you. All right. This is something, by the way, that we've talked about on this program many times, especially during COVID. Frankly, I've been talking about it even long before COVID, and that is this belief, and I believe in this, that there is a depopulation agenda out there, and it's not just governments. There are a lot of private citizens and philanthropy organizations and so on that believe in that as well. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 14 :
You are absolutely correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
So this is a topic that you have just written about recently. Give us your thoughts and your findings on this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I wrote a piece for the Daily Wire advocating for the Trump administration to cut funding to the United Nations Population Fund, which was founded in 1969 and was really part of this post-war global effort to limit population growth based on these Neo-Malthusian ideas that the world is overpopulated and population growth will eventually outpace food production and lead to widespread ecological catastrophes, famines, wars, etc.? ?
SPEAKER 16 :
And the reality is, and I remember reading some of those back in the day, Aidan, because I'm old, and I remember just reading those thinking, okay, wait a minute, time out. I live in Colorado. I'm a native. And those folks that are around here know exactly what I'm going to say next, and that is as you leave Denver, Aidan, and you head, by the way, any direction, north, east, south, west, Literally, Aiden, it is literally mile after mile after mile after mile, hundreds of miles of literally nothing, open, farmland, things along those lines. And as a young person, because when some of these things came out, that's about where I was at age-wise, I'm thinking to myself, Aiden, hang on, time out. These guys think the earth is going to be overpopulated, and yet I can drive literally for a day straight until I hit Kansas City.
SPEAKER 14 :
Certainly, yes. The Earth can handle far more humans than we presently have. And, you know, in the past, few decades, resource supply has only increased with greater human population. And the reason for that is when you have more people, there's more productivity, more innovation, more brain power, thus producing more abundance. And the prices of commodities actually go down. The population control establishment thought the opposite would happen. They thought that due to resource scarcity from overpopulation, the prices of commodities would skyrocket. That was really the claim of the biologists who don't understand economics, whereas economists like Julian Simon said that, no, this is going to pan out just fine in the long run. We'll be able to adapt and overcome any population problems we might face. and ultimately will benefit everyone through increased abundance because the ultimate resource in the end is people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Aidan, I got two quick points. First of all, I have to disagree with you that more population brings more innovation and intellect. California. Okay, so just so you know. So Andy disagrees. Just so you know, there's a little roadblock there to your thinking. And number two, I got a big question here. When they get together and have these depopulation consortiums and they talk about lowering the population of the earth, how many of them volunteer to go first?
SPEAKER 14 :
Two points. First, I want to address your first point. Okay. To produce the resource abundance, which thankfully has been produced in recent decades, requires economic and personal freedom. California does not do very well in that regard. You got me. Oh, you got me. They do not.
SPEAKER 16 :
You are correct, Aiden.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. As for the population control establishment, they tend to think of themselves as above the rest.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I see. So they should be the ones who are left on the lifeboat.
SPEAKER 16 :
They're the controllers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because, I mean, if the lifeboat is overloaded and we're all sinking, shouldn't they jump off first? I mean, to help humanity. No, they're in charge of the rudder.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, Aiden? I mean, I'm saying that laughingly, but honestly, I'm not too wrong. They're in charge of the rudder. They're going to steer the thing, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
That's what they believe. I think that this is ultimately metaphysical in many ways. They sort of view themselves as these supreme adjudicators. They view themselves as appointed by... whatever, to make these decisions. And this whole idea that there has to be this appointed priest class managing human population dates all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia. In the Atreus' epic, the gods are concerned about humans reproducing too quickly, and all the noise that humans make keeps the god Enlil awake at night, and so he decides to destroy humanity except for one noble person, similar to the story of Noah's Ark. But then after this great flood, he appoints this priest class to limit population growth. Plato and Aristotle also wrote about the need to control population. So this idea is very ancient. It's been with us for millennia. And the brilliance of human minds, of innovation, of creativity has consistently proved it wrong.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Really quick, I read a book years ago, Aidan, and when this was all going on, I can't remember even the name of the book now and the lady that wrote it, but I just remember reading different parts of that book, and one of the things that she said was, hey, all of this nonsense, literally, about overpopulation and so on and so forth, as we as a nation get wealthier and we spread that wealth worldwide... Population will automatically start to go down because as nations get richer, they stop having as many kids and they automatically depopulize on their own. So this whole idea of we need to depopulize is actually opposite. As countries get more wealthy, you need to figure out how to keep the birth rate up. Otherwise, they'll die.
SPEAKER 14 :
That is certainly true. In the least developed countries, people aren't really thinking long-term. They're thinking about how are they going to get food on the plate to feed their families. So they're not really making reproductive decisions about what's coming down the road 10 or 20 years from now. So as countries do... become more prosperous through free markets, they tend to make decisions about the long run because they're not just concerned about what's going to happen today or if they can even survive another week.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. And so, and by the way, everything that that particular lady wrote, has pretty much come true because there's even stats out now, Aiden, as you know, that just naturally, if we keep on the path that we're on worldwide, you're going to see the population of the world peak and then start to, at that point, continue to go downhill, not uphill.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, and it's not just going to be a gradual decline. No. It is going to be a precipitous decline.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because if every woman in one generation says, we're just going to have one kid, and then every woman in that next generation says, we're also going to have one kid, well, then you only have 25% as many grandchildren as grandparents. So that's how quickly population can decrease. So while the human population will continue to go up for another couple decades, It's then going to plateau and by the middle of this century, maybe 2050, 60, we're going to see populations start to go down very rapidly. So young people especially need to take that into account when they plan for their future. how they save their money, because the world is going to look a lot different in five or six decades when there's a significantly larger retirement age population than working age population. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Aidan, you kind of get to a point I was thinking. It's really funny because a lot of the same people who want to depopulate are also – very much against ever raising the age of retirement for Social Security, Medicare, and so forth. Do they ever look at things called numbers?
SPEAKER 14 :
Apparently not, because the hard economic data shows that their theory about overpopulation is wrong. I would point people toward the great work of... Cato Institute's Marion Toopy, who has shown from 1980 to 2017, the resource abundance has increased by 380%. And for every 1% increase in population, there's been about a 1% reduction in the prices of commodities. So the population controllers are often biologists or environmentalists. So they don't work as much with numbers as economists do. Economists tend to understand human nature and our capacity to adapt and overcome problems much better than than biologists.
SPEAKER 07 :
Aidan, do you think and I know I'm getting a little current here, but do you think some of these people also factored in in, say, California? And I'm not saying so much that they wanted fires to come through and burn people. I'm not saying that. But what I mean is they didn't care about lowering the amount of water that was held and kept for people to use. Instead, they only cared about fish and other things. It just seems to me they don't have people very high on their priority list.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it really came back to hurt them. Go ahead. Yes. Well, the heart of this Malthusian agenda is quite anti-human. It denies that people have intrinsic dignity. It views certain people as a burden on others or as a burden on Mother Earth. So it doesn't really place the dignity and well-being of human beings at the top of the value hierarchy.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. You're 100% correct. Aidan, how do folks find you and your work?
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You can follow me on X at Aidan Grogan. That's A-I-D-A-N-G-R-O-G-A-N. Also, you can visit AIER.org. That's the American Institute for Economic Research. And I have several articles published there, and I will be publishing more in the near future.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay. The vote that's coming up Thursday, I don't know what time of the day, when it comes to the bylaw changes that Dave Williams has put out there. And we were talking off air about, you know, how will that vote go? What will be the outcome? What does it mean? And so on. And here's my take on things. If, by God's grace... that gets defeated and those changes don't get made, there is hope for the Colorado GOP in Colorado, even going into the gubernatorial race in 2026 and a Senate race, by the way. I always want to say Governor Hickenlooper, but Senator Hickenlooper.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
There is a slight glimmer of hope if, in fact, we can defeat that moving forward, because most likely that means we could end up with some different leadership and be more prepared for those particular races and so on. If, on the other hand... Those bylaws changes do go into effect. We're done. Yeah. I'm sorry to say, folks, all hope is lost.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
I have no idea how in this state moving forward, outside of there being some sort of movement independently of the GOP, Colorado leadership, I don't know how that would even work. I don't know if legally that's even possible. I have no idea how you would run anything outside of them to bypass them to try and still get some things done in Colorado because they will literally hold the purse and the cards on everything that happens moving forward, and good luck.
SPEAKER 07 :
They will have consolidated so much power.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, we have to keep in mind, John, what if their endorsements in the last election had gone through? What if their endorsements had not been shut down?
SPEAKER 16 :
Trump would not have the ability today to even do things, legislatively speaking, moving forward that he has right now to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and we would have lost several other elections as well throughout the state. Look, John, I got nothing. If these people remain in control—
SPEAKER 16 :
We're done.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're done. People don't understand. Also, they say, well, we turned around our fundraising. Folks, their top two sources of funds that came were, number one, they squeezed presidential candidates for $40,000 each. Okay. And then, by the way, endorsed against them and refused to give back their money, which is wow. But also the House Fund gave them a bunch of money. Had you not been in a presidential— That's Kevin McCarthy who gave them a bunch of money.
SPEAKER 16 :
Had you not been in a presidential election cycle, the day you happened to be in charge of, you wouldn't have seen any upticks whatsoever. The only reason there were any upticks is because of the fact it was a presidential cycle into what Andy said a moment ago as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and also, if it had not been a massive nationwide red wave, we would have gotten slaughtered. Because, as I've said many times, Trump increased his margin nationally by 6.2%, only 2.5% in Colorado, one of the worst in the country. Which means, I mean, we lost almost 60% of the red wave. What if we hadn't had the red wave? I mean... John, I don't even understand. I don't understand. They're not going to be able to bring anywhere near the money over the next two years, regardless of who's in charge. They frittered it away. They launched a bunch of lawsuits when people wanted to hold a vote. On whether or not to keep Dave and his people in power. You know, and this is what really blows my mind. All they had to do, because they say, well, you know, we want people, they want to sue people like Eli Bremer to try to get that money back. And it's just like, guys, you didn't have to launch all these lawsuits.
SPEAKER 16 :
You didn't have to do anything.
SPEAKER 07 :
To save his butt. No, you didn't. All you had to do was hold the meeting. Say, fine, okay, guys, if you don't think that there's enough support for it, if you don't think there's, you know, a quorum, fine. Hold the vote. Dave will win easily and then move on.
SPEAKER 16 :
And those of you that maybe haven't looked and you should because it's really not that hard to do, go look at the Colorado GOP's FEC report, federal election, you know, report. You have looked over this all the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Way in detail.
SPEAKER 16 :
Continue to look at it. Go look at that, though, and look at where some of their expenditures are. For example, there's one recent expenditure, which I haven't seen anybody write about. And this one I'm just really wondering about because I don't know this particular attorney. Seems like a one-man band. It's Melito. I think I'm saying that right. Melito Law. They've written checks so far. to him of $12,000 and $16,000, meaning he has collected about $28,000. And what he does is, this is his tagline on his website, when experience matters, civil and criminal racketeering attorney. Now, why would the Colorado GOP need a civil and criminal racketeering attorney that they've actually paid some sort of a retainer to? Why would they need that, Andy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Any thoughts?
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, virtually all... Would you agree with this? Virtually all the legal money that they have spent has all gone toward one purpose. To save Dave Williams' job. Right. Okay? They are spending an enormous amount of money on legal fees just to keep Dave in his job. Now, they were able to do it finally because a Democrat judge who wanted Dave kept in his job... Yeah, and by the way, they've been putting it all over the place that the judge ruled that the people who led the coup were against the law, were illegal, that they held an illegal meeting. That's not what the judge ruled at all. The judge ruled, hey, you need this percentage of all the members of the SEC, not just the quorum that you had at your meeting.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct. He didn't say it was an illegal meeting. No! He just said you didn't have enough.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So they're lying flat out. But, John, they've spent all this money on lawyers and lawsuits for one purpose, to save Dave Williams' ass.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and to further this Melito law along, and I don't know this person. I have nothing against this person, by the way. I don't even know the person, so I can't say one thing. good or bad about this particular attorney. But again, some of his taglines or boxes you can click, I guess I should say, to find out what he will do for you is complex white collar and organized crime. That's one thing he'll represent you for, Andy. Criminal defense, which again, Kevin Flesch does, so nothing against criminal defense lawyers. Business clientele and complex civil litigation. So I'm wondering, which one of those three do we as a party in Colorado need? None. Thank you. So why have we paid this guy $28,000 as a party then?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, obviously he's connected. He's probably a donor. Okay. Probably some of the money goes right back to Dave.
SPEAKER 16 :
I didn't go through all of that to determine that. I'm just looking at this saying, okay, wait a minute. From the outside looking in. Why would you need to pay this individual, whether it's a retainer? I don't know what it is. There's no notes. That's the other problem I have right now with the way the accounting is done at the Colorado GOP is it's very vague in what you're paying for at times. Our state party right now needs a complete audit. on what's going on, so we can backtrack some of these things and find out exactly what have we paid for.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the only lawsuits that I know of that they have tried to push out of the state party are lawsuits to save Dave's job and to go after open primaries. Really, that's it. I can't remember any other lawsuits they did. Can you?
SPEAKER 16 :
No. And once again, I look at the type of attorneys that they're hiring. This one in particular, I really don't have any idea why you would need somebody that specializes in organized crime or white-collar crime defending you. Why do you need this particular type of an attorney on your side?
SPEAKER 07 :
They probably know them. It's probably connected. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Still, again, and this is my other issue, Andy, though, is we know a lot of people that are connected in the party. And, you know, we hear of different names and so on and so forth. I've never heard this particular attorney's name ever in any circle in anything I've ever done. Nor have I. So I'm thinking, no, this is an actual hire of an attorney that is going to have to represent something or defend something going on inside of the Colorado GOP right now. This is not a friend of a friend or anything along those lines. They have purposely gone out and found this person to put them on retainer to protect them at some point in time for something they've done. That's how I see this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Could be. I don't know. I really don't. All I know is they're spending an awful. Look. KBB didn't spend all this money on legal fees.
SPEAKER 16 :
This is crazy. A lot of you that are supporters, how many of our candidates in a lot of the smaller races around the state could have even just taken a fraction of that $28,000 and helped them in their particular race and possibly have won?
SPEAKER 07 :
One of the biggest complaints that a lot of candidates have is they didn't help us.
SPEAKER 16 :
$28,000. They didn't help us at all. To a criminal defense attorney that specializes in white-collar crime and mafia-driven things. Sorry, I don't know how else to say it. Okay. $28,000, and that's just what I looked at. We may have written more checks, because remember, this report's always about a month behind, so I don't know what we've written in January. Could be another $12,000 or $15,000.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're talking $28,000 over what period of time?
SPEAKER 16 :
Two months.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, gosh. How much has it been over the two years Dave has been in place?
SPEAKER 16 :
As far as all legal stuff goes? Yeah. Over $100,000?
SPEAKER 07 :
Over $100,000 that they have spent on legal fees largely to keep him in his job. And it's like all he had to do was just say, hey. Hold the vote.
SPEAKER 16 :
And this last one, again, these particular checks that were written to Melito Law, I believe, I didn't put this in my notes. I'm going back on my recollection. But I believe this was October, November disbursements because I don't think December is done yet, Andy. I don't think it's quite that up to date. So you could have had another check even in December to this particular law firm.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is amazing, John. This is amazing seeing this much money spent on legal fees. Then they blame all their critics. Well, it's because all our critics are coming in. We're having to defend ourselves. It's like, why?
SPEAKER 16 :
Why are you having to defend yourself? This is for all of you supporters of Dave out there. If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you defending?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. What are you defending? Look, if you want to say, because they keep saying that their critics don't have a quorum, they don't have a majority, they don't have the numbers, and maybe they're right, right? But if that's true, why not just hold the vote? This all goes back to June. You could have just held the vote then. and not spent any of this money, that money, John, could have gone to candidates. Could have just held the vote. If you guys are so sure you would have won it, and by the way, maybe they would have. I don't know. It's really close. The SEC, I think, kind of tilts their way a little bit. Maybe they would have won, whatever.
SPEAKER 16 :
Depends on who shows up that day.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I'm telling you what, if I were the chair of the Colorado Republican Party, And a group of people, a large group of people, you know, large enough, came and said, we want to hold a vote on whether or not to retain you.
SPEAKER 16 :
We're challenging your leadership. We want to know if you're still fit to do this. We're going to hold a vote to find out whether. I've said this publicly, Andy. I, if I'd have been the leader at that time, I would have said, bring it on. Yeah. Let's do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so would I. And I would just say, look, guys. There is no way I'm going to waste our donors' money fighting you. Hold the vote. I'm going to make my case to the people. You hold the vote. And if they want to remove me, that's fine. That's what's best for the party.
SPEAKER 16 :
So the question I'm asking Dave and his supporters is this. What are you guys afraid of? I'm being very straight up honest. Dave, what are you afraid of? John, everything they do is to hold on to power.
SPEAKER 07 :
Everything.
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thank you all for listening today. I appreciate it very much. And, again, I know there's times where we focus a lot on our state party and what's going on, and I do get a lot of thank you comments from a lot of you that maybe didn't even know a lot of this stuff was going on. You've kind of, you know, heard some of this stuff. As of late and why it's so important to me is because not only did we just go through a really solid election with Donald Trump and a lot of the things that happened there. And in spite of our Colorado GOP, we got some really great representatives elected that are now going to help Donald Trump in his mission to get some things righted in the country. But on top of all of that. In just two years, which I know for a lot seem like it's a long way away, but trust me, time flies. And we need to be preparing right now for the upcoming election in 2026 where we're going to elect a new governor for the state of Colorado. Of course, a lot of other little offices when it comes to things that happen inside of Colorado, senators, representatives, and so on.
SPEAKER 07 :
A new senator.
SPEAKER 16 :
And then on top of that, another senator, because Hickenlooper is up for reelection as well. So we've got a senator election, a senate election, I should say, and a governor election. And I will tell you right now, we are ill-prepared for both. I agree. I don't think we have any preparations, by the way, for either one of those.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we certainly don't have money. We're spending it all on legal fees.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's a problem.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it is. John, we should be right now putting together a war chest to help these people.
SPEAKER 16 :
And as a side note, and I know the Democrats are really well and they've got a machine and they will figure some of these things out. But right now, keep in mind, there's sort of an internal battle going on, even in their own party, for who's going to run on their side for governor. You've got Phil Weiser, who's our attorney general, who, by the way, has never even tried a case in court. I don't know how he ever got to be attorney general, but that's a whole other conversation. Right. You've got him that threw his hat in the ring to run for governor of Colorado. And then just recently, and no, she hasn't formally announced it, but she will, Jenna Griswold is also going to throw her hat into the ring because there's already been some internal things going on with her that pretty much prove she's going to throw her hat in the ring. So you've got these two now, which... By the way, it doesn't typically happen on the Democrat side. Normally, they're a little bit more lockstep, especially in those two positions where they work pretty closely with one another, Andy. Right. Normally, they're not going to be that closely related, quote unquote, air quotes, and then both throw their hat in the ring. So the Democrats have some issues as well. My point is, given that fact, we should be more organized on our side and we're not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, because for once, the Democrats are going to be tearing into each other for a few months.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's good. And we don't have a clue what we're doing on our side.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
Honestly, we do not have a clue.
SPEAKER 07 :
We have no plan.
SPEAKER 16 :
Our leadership here, they're more worried about paying legal fees for our chairman, which is literally what they're doing, than they are helping candidates get elected.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and endorsing candidates that lose by 30 points in the primaries.
SPEAKER 16 :
What's funny is when I get on these topics and I bring up some of the money and the spending and so on, occasionally some of Dave's supporters will actually text me and have some sort of a comeback to that. In this case, Andy, crickets, they don't say anything.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, because it all comes back to the same thing we've been saying. All you had to do was hold the meeting in June. You hold a meeting in June. all of this goes away All of it.
SPEAKER 16 :
I've never gotten an email or a text message defending the things that I'm talking about today in regards to our party leadership. And it'll be interesting to see if anybody even comes out and defends what I was saying and Andy was saying about who's really pulling the strings. Because I think a lot of Dave's supporters think he is. And a lot of you that are, you really need to take a close look at the things that I gave you examples of today as to why I can prove... that he is not the leader. He is the puppet doing things that other people's beckoning. But at the end of the day, no, he is not your leader.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the interesting thing is, John, for Dave. Williams is the first time he represents the first time that the hardcore activists in the Republican Party have seized control of the Republican Party of Colorado. Now, don't get me wrong. We've had Tea Party and Liberty oriented chairs before we did. But this is the first time you've had an all-in, hardcore, opt-out-of-the-open primaries, no matter what the consequences, do whatever it takes, endorse in primaries, all this kind of crazy stuff. This is the first time that they have taken over the party. And what I'm saying is this. They don't want to give up that power because those people are probably thinking, if we lose power—
SPEAKER 16 :
We won't get it again.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're not going to get it back.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, no, they're hanging on for dear life.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because people are not going to want us back after this.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, Andy, absolutely. They are hanging on for dear life. They are going to do every single thing they possibly can. And I'm sorry, I'm going to say it this way. They will cheat. They will lie. They will do whatever they can from this point forward to make sure they retain power. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. They have absolutely no conscience. There's no scruples with these people at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
None. Zero. They have no conscience whatsoever holding them back. They have no internal lines saying, I won't cross that. Nothing.
SPEAKER 16 :
There is none of that, Andy. These people are all out. They have grasped, to your point, the power. They do not want to give that power up because, and you're 100% correct, they know that if they do, they're never getting it again. Not in my lifetime. Because everybody's going to remember what's happening. And really quick, some of you don't know this backstory, but I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there. You guys might as well know the truth. The reality is, we did have a really solid, liberty-minded candidate at one time that did a pretty good job while he could in running the party. That was Steve House, good friend of mine. Until... Some of those liberty-minded people that we're now talking about that, by the way, are in charge right now, tried to throw a coup and have Steve thrown out of office. Right, but their coup was okay. Those knuckleheads are the ones now that are in charge.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they are.
SPEAKER 16 :
Literally, those same knuckleheads that tried to do that back then that, by the way, are mad at guys like Eli claiming that that's what he was doing when, in fact, that's not at all what he was doing. No. Eli was just doing what I've been trying to get done now for almost two years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Eli wanted no power. Remember, he only wanted to be the chair through the election and then turn it over. He wanted literally no power going forward.
SPEAKER 16 :
The very people right now that are in charge that tried to throw the coup back when Steve House had first become GOP chair, I'd have to go back and look and see exactly what year that was. I was very involved in a lot of what was going on at that time in a lot of things that I will not repeat and say because you guys just don't need to know the gory details. But the reality—and by the way, I was made fun of. I was called stupid, and I didn't know what I was doing, and I didn't know my— My ass from a hole in the ground and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Couldn't find my ass if it was in front of me. I mean, these are the sorts of things that openly were said about me back in the day. And those same people are now in charge of the party. And they're utter morons. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
And those people will look at Steve House. They call him a rhino. Steve House is a Trump supporter.
SPEAKER 16 :
You hear him every Thursday here talking about the very things Andy and I talk about every day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Steve House is the ultimate Fauci opponent. Correct. Exactly. Steve House loves all of Trump's appointees. Steve House is on your side and you hate him. You know why? Because Steve House doesn't run on rage. He runs on intellect.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and there are things that, and I love Steve dearly. He and I go way back. But there are things, literally, and Andy was right, there are things that even Steve is behind at times where I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I'm quite as far right on that as you are, Steve. But hey, go ahead. I still love you. We can kind of maybe agree to disagree. And by the way, not very many things that I feel that way about. We are pretty much on the same path on almost everything. But Steve on certain things is farther right than I am. Proving your point, Andy. He is not a rhino, not any stretch of the imagination.
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I think these people at times only respect rage.
SPEAKER 16 :
They are whacked. They are crazy in the head. They are loons. And unfortunately, they are in charge of the party.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they are.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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By the way, thank you all for the very kind text messages that you have sent in. Some of you thanking us for giving you all a lot of education and background on things that have happened inside of the party and really laying things out in a way that you guys can understand what's going on. Somebody else says, man, we've got to get some of the young people to really listen and understand how all this works as well. And Andy and I are up for anything when it comes to reaching young people. Others of you have have asked, why won't the national GOP step in and handle things? And by the way, I'll tell you why. Because Dave has them snowed. Dave has this particular administration, which, again, I think eventually they'll figure this out. But he's got the Trump administration snowed big time, thinking that everything here in Colorado is hunky dory. And the Trump administration itself has no idea how gory things really are here.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, bottom line is Dave backed the right horse.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Dave persuaded, he campaigned to have the Colorado State Party endorse Donald Trump in the primary. Right. Donald Trump then became president, and now, you know.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good luck.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, good luck getting the state national party to go after him.
SPEAKER 16 :
If we were to somehow contact somebody nationally and explain what's going on, we would be looked at as just a bunch of whiners. Everything in Colorado is great. Look at all the representatives that won. And, again, because Dave is taking – publicly, Dave and his cronies are taking credit for the Gabe Evans and the Cranks of the world. Who they didn't help one bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
They campaigned against them.
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But they're taking full credit for those guys being elected, and that's exactly how the Trump organization is looking at things, because that's what Dave is telling them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think a lot of it is this, and for those who think, well, Andy, are you going to attack Trump on this? No, I'm not.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's not his fault.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, Donald Trump has a state chair who endorsed him, which, by the way, shouldn't have endorsed in primary. It wasn't necessary. Trump would have won anyway. It was so stupid.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
All you did was insult all the supporters.
SPEAKER 16 :
That was a big brown nose move on the part of Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 07 :
Totally, because Dave Williams wants power.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so Dave Williams did that. And guess what? It worked. If you're Donald Trump. Look, Donald Trump is somebody who has been opening up tons of allegiances that are not traditional. Kennedy, right? Tulsi Gabbard. Elon Musk. He has been broadening his base dramatically, and look at what it did. We won a landslide because of it. Hey, I can't fault the guy. So when he looks at somebody like Dave Williams, who was loyal to him and helped deliver Colorado for him, okay? Yeah. I know, I know. He would have won Colorado anyway. Right. But who got the state party to endorse him, he's not going to turn this. And remember, the other thing. Donald Trump is a very loyal man. He's very loyal.
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The other feather that's in Dave's cap for all of that is the lawsuit that was going on where there were a lot of folks, including some true rhinos that wanted to take Trump off the ballot. Yes, our state GOP and a lot of others, ourselves included, really campaigned against all of that. That ended up backfiring. Trump was still on the ballot. But again, Dave is taking credit. Even where credit isn't due, he's taking credit for a lot of things that to Donald Trump looks favorable. And it's sort of like, Andy, how should I say it?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's like... They're taking credit for Donald Trump staying on the ballot as if he was going to be taken.
SPEAKER 16 :
But really quick, it's like... siblings, where you've got mom and dad. And one sibling is always honest and in a lot of cases may even get in trouble because he or she is very honest and always owns up to the things that they do. In some cases, mom and dad might even look down on them just ever so slightly because they are very honest and they're probably the one that's in trouble more than the other one then you've got the other sibling who's a big brown noser right who knows exactly when to say what to mom and dad at just the right moment knows how to schmooze and woos and do all the things necessary to make sure mom and dad love them the most even though when it's all said and done they're the dirty rotten scoundrel not the other sibling yeah that's the that's the sibling that gets the most recognition from mom and dad am i explaining that correctly you are
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, the Bible asks the question, the Psalms asks the question, why do the wicked prosper? The reason that question was asked is because the wicked do prosper. Because they do. Okay, these people will say, well, if they were such bad guys, it would all fall apart.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not necessarily.
SPEAKER 07 :
Where have you been? The wicked prosper in this world. These things work. The very same things are being done by people ganging up on good employees at every company. Right. Okay. And getting positions they shouldn't get.
SPEAKER 16 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
This works everywhere.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's no different in this particular situation. So those supporters out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they got the CEO liking them.
SPEAKER 16 :
But these supporters that are out there rallying around Dave. Guys, and I know some of you listen. you're being hoodwinked. You're being blinded. You literally are being schmoozed, just like Donald Trump, when at the end of the day, all Dave and his cronies that are really in his tight little circle, because again, I don't think Dave's actually running things, all they care about is themselves and their power. Well, that's what Dave and his cronies care about.
SPEAKER 07 :
The people who support Dave, really, the biggest reason, John, is this. They're very angry over what's been taken from them, and they see Dave as somebody who will fight even when it's irrational.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's the revenge factor.
SPEAKER 07 :
So they see him as a mini-Trump in that way. He's not, but that's how they see him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I know. Andy, not even close. But yeah, no, you are correct. That's exactly how his supporters see him. So again, those of you listening, those of you that are close supporters, some of you that are on the committee that are going to have a vote on Thursday, I really, I cannot impress upon you enough. Really take a step back. Listen to some of the things that we have explained today and really analyze what's this vote going to do. And at the end of the day, does it really help the party or does it hurt the party in ways, by the way, that we'll never get back moving forward? So I'll leave you with that. Guys, have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In a riveting discourse, John Rush walks listeners through the recent DEA raids in Colorado and ties this event to broader themes of Marxism and open border policies. Listeners are treated to a thought-provoking discussion about the unseen hand of Marxist ideologies shaping current events, with a special focus on the economic and societal impacts of drug trafficking and the empowerment of cartels. Don't miss the engaging listener calls that conclude this episode, providing a grassroots perspective to the ongoing societal challenges.
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All right, happy Monday. Start to the week, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us, as I know a lot of you do on a daily and even weekend basis. Real quick question of the day from Friday. What was the primary purpose of the Rosetta Stone, and why was its discovery so significant? The Rosetta Stone was inscribed to honor an Egyptian king and helped decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics due to its trilingual inscription. So there's your answer on the primary purpose of the Rosetta Stone. Today's impossible question. What year did the Byzantine Empire fall, marking the end of the Middle Ages in Europe? So that is the question of the day today. All right, today also... Marx, 80—and I haven't heard many people talk about this. In fact, I had to go look for a couple of news stories on this, but it's been 80 years since the Auschwitz liberation. So 80 years today, and if you go look, you will find a few stories along these lines and different folks that can recount from, you know, family and so on, some of what happened at that particular time. There are some amazing stories along those lines, and If you've ever been to any of the Holocaust museums, you'll know what I mean by that. They're literally a life-changing experience. And if you haven't been to one, I would highly encourage you to go to one. They really are just very... It's a very learning-slash-solemn experience, and at least for me, you just shake your head the entire time you're in there. So that's my take on those museums. I've been to one, both of them, one here and one in Israel as well, and they're great. Okay, in other news, and most of you probably already saw this, the DEA-slash-ICE raid that happened here yesterday. In Colorado, over the weekend in Aurora, there were federal agents that had evidently – shows you that some of these people aren't real smart – This particular gang, and that's the same gang that's been in Aurora causing all the havoc. The gang, of course, that Governor Polis and other news organizations and even a lot of the city officials in Aurora would tell you don't exist. It's just a figment of the conservative imagination. That's basically what they all said. But these federal agents actually – and they didn't stumble across it. I think they were looking on purpose, but they somehow – got word through social media that there was a makeshift nightclub in North Denver. And it was an invitation only sort of a thing. And come to find out, it was a nightclub that had been set up by this gang. So they sweep in early Sunday morning around 5 a.m., and they end up arresting about 50 undocumented immigrants. A lot of them, in fact, I think by and large, the majority of them were affiliated with that particular organization. gang that we've talked about many times on this program again aurora officials and state officials and even those in the police world would say that we're all crazy this didn't really exist now though some of them changed their tune after the last go around where the gang members kidnapped individuals stabbed them and so on things changed a little bit at that point in time but our own governor i don't know if he's ever admitted to the fact that this stuff has gone on but you know Kudos to Trump and his, you know, new appointees and what's going on when it comes to immigration and the deportation of individuals, especially these types of individuals. And I believe they also found a particular form of cocaine at this particular party and other things and weapons and other things as well. So, you know, 50 less thugs, scum of the earth, I'll call it what it is, roaming the United States of America soil. So I don't know where these folks are going to go to. I don't know how that's actually going to work, whether they'll be prosecuted here, whether they're going to be sent back where they came from. You also saw over the weekend where Donald Trump had immigration. They decided, ICE, that they were going to ship some of these individuals back to their home country, Colombia being one of them. Columbia says, yeah, no, you can't do that. And Trump says, OK, well, if you're going to play that way, then we're going to do X, Y, Z when it comes to tariffs and support for you and and and. And it wasn't but literally an hour later where, you know, the head of Columbia comes back and says, OK, I guess you can go ahead and drop them off personally. OK. And I know this wouldn't work because you'd get too much kickback on it, but I would say in the future, if they don't want you landing there and they're not willing to support a military landing and take those people and do what's needed, send them out with parachutes. Literally. All right, here you go, boys. You know when to pull the cord. If not, that's on you. Count to 10 and pull. If you don't know how to count to 10, that's on you. That's what I do. And I know that sounds really harsh, but you know what? Some of these, because right now, keep in mind, all these people that are being deported, these are not your average migrants and illegal aliens that came to America. This is the worst of the worst. Keep that in mind. These are the scum of the earth that, frankly, in my opinion, don't deserve to be anywhere nonetheless here. Just like these 50 gang members that we rounded up here in Colorado over the weekend. Yeah, these folks, in my opinion, they don't, I'll just be straight up honest, they don't deserve to live. I'm sorry, they don't deserve to live. Knowing what this particular gang has done, not only in Aurora, but, you know, in other countries, other states. Yeah, scum of the earth. Scum of the earth. As far as I care, you can push them out of the airplane without a parachute. I could care less. That's how I view this type of individual that has come to America to wreak havoc. And by the way, that Joe Biden and his cronies allow to just walk in freely. And then to further that, we have the city of Aurora, like I said earlier, the governor, certain news organizations, Kyle Clark, I hope you're listening, and others that basically said, yeah, that's a lot to do about nothing out there in Aurora. You guys are crazy. That building owner, they're crazy. That's not going on. There's no gang members there. There's no issues going on there. I can't tell you how many times the news organizations here in Colorado, the governor and Aurora officials said, yeah, nothing to see there. Just look the other way. There's nothing going on there until finally now. Maybe now they're going to pay attention. So this is what all I can say is this is what the left does. I had a great conversation with some good friends and neighbors of mine up in the mountains yesterday where we had this conversation and really asking, why is this happening? And the answer is, it's happening because this is part of the core of Marxism and how you change a country is through open borders, the chaos, the crime, the things that come in with it. This is part of Marxism, folks. And if you don't believe me, go look it up. And you'll find that that's at its core. And it's one of the great disruptors of a country. And I've got other stories today that I'll share with you regarding other countries, by the way, that have allowed some of this to happen in the past. But bottom line is they want the left wants this. This is by design. This wasn't just willy nilly. We're going to open the borders. And by the way, it's not just willy nilly. We're going to open the borders so we can get more Democrat voters. That's what a lot of folks on our side even think. We can just get more Democrat voters. No, that's not the reason for an open, porous border. It's one of, and it's a byproduct of, but it's not the core reason. Trust me when I say that. And to top that off, Don't forget how much money has been pouring into the cartels literally since the time Joe and his cronies agreed to go ahead and let the border be open and porous. I can't tell you, and I'm not sure anybody can, how many billions, literally billions of dollars have funneled into Mexican cartels and others, but especially Mexican cartels. And I would really love, it'd be nice if Donald Trump would allocate somebody to go say, okay, let's at least get a round estimate as to how much money we have funneled into the cartels through the allowance of drugs, cocaine, marijuana, fentanyl, others. All the coyotes. Thank you, Charlie. The sex trafficking, which is, by the way, the inventory level on that is even different than drugs because it's constant. On and on we go. I'd really like to know what that number is and how much money the Biden administration and his leftist cronies, his Marxist cronies, funneled into the cartels and made them rich. Not that they weren't already, but you wonder why Mexico has such a hard time keeping things intact, and yet we as a country, did nothing but provide more ammunition and power to the cartels over the past four years, it's no wonder Mexico itself as a country has no control over them. And by the way, what I just said is very true. They have no control over them. Zero. They pay lip service to it, and they'll do some raids here and there, and they'll try to do some different things to apprehend some cartel members. But the reality is, and anybody that's been to Mexico knows what I'm talking about, the reality is the cartels run the country. The president and her cabinet and the people that she has around her, which it's a female president now in Mexico, she has literally zero control. The cartel runs the country. Now, I will tell you right now that the cartel, I guarantee you, is not happy about what's going on at the border because Donald Trump just cut into their wallet. Now, did he take all their money away? No, as long as there's a... As long as there is a want for the product in the U.S., you're not going to stop everything that they do. But I will tell you that it's going to be much harder for them to make the kind of money that they were making prior, given what Donald Trump has done at the border. even sending troops to the border. The cartel, I guarantee you, is not happy. So my prediction on that, and I don't have a crystal ball, but I don't think I'll be wrong in this prediction, they will lash out some way, somehow. So be on your guard. especially those of you that know some of you that listen, have family or friends or yourself, maybe down around some of the border areas and so on. Be really careful. Be mindful of what's going on, because I guarantee you the cartel is not happy right now. And especially when you read what happened here in Colorado with these 50 gang members now being rounded up, and that's going to happen in other parts of the country. Yeah, they're not going to be happy. All I can say is go Trump. This stuff wouldn't have happened two weeks ago. But within a week, within a week, literally, because it's a week today that Donald Trump became president, was inaugurated. This stuff happened within seven days, literally six days, if you would, of him becoming president of the United States. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Ben and Evergreen, go ahead, Ben.
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Yeah, you know, by the way, what you said about these people being run off, I agree. In fact, if I were doing your show today, you know, where you are, you stole my thunder. I just said all that stuff. In fact, the difference is the really bad guys, I'd give them a fair trial. And I'd tell, first of all, these guys, I'd run them off. And I'd tell them, if you come back and you commit a felony here, today you get a parachute. When you've been convicted of a capital crime, we're taking you back to Venezuela. We're dumping you in the middle of Caracas with no parachutes. And also all these ice guys, you know, that's kind of tough work. It's risky, unsafe work. I agree. You've got to thank them and all the marshals, whoever helped out. Because, you know, some of these guys are not playing fair. No, I agree. They're not morally – there's something wrong with them.
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These are depraved individuals, Ben, and it's interesting what you said just a moment ago, too. I got a couple of text messages in on this, and I had not heard this, but a couple of people messaged in and said, listen, there are reports out there that DEA and others had been – and other agencies had been working on this particular gang here in Colorado for quite some time. I think in a lot of cases, Ben, these guys are just waiting for the right time with the right administration that would back them up on doing what's necessary, point being – This has been known about for a long time, even though the governor, Aurora officials, our local news and so on would never admit that these things actually existed.
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And you've got to thank the feds for doing this. You know, where there's a will, there's a way. Absolutely. And I'm glad to see it happening the way it is. And then, you know, I'm thinking about all these drugs coming from Mexico. And, you know... I think it's kind of a first world problem. I mean, what is it about Americans that we've got to be sniffing cocaine, popping pills, smoking, whatever it is? I mean, is life a first of all, is it that bad here? And you have that much money left... No, actually, really quick, Ben.
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Honestly, I believe it's quite the opposite. Because it's so good, and people have so much time on their hand, and in a lot of cases have extra cash and so on, it's because of that that they do these things.
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You know, I saw a video a few years ago, and this guy was in, like, Kurdistan, and there was this field of pot. And he said to this girl... Would you think anybody would mind if I smoked some of this pot? And she said, probably not. But if you lived here, you'd spend so much time working. and paying your bills, you wouldn't have time for that. That's my point. Maybe it is a first world problem. I don't know, man.
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Well, and trust me, I would never say, Ben, that these sorts of things don't happen in other countries. But I think to answer your main question, why does that happen here as much as it does? Well, because of what we just discussed. I mean, the reality is our people have a lot more time and resources on their hand to do so, in my opinion.
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Well, let me ask you, I just was thinking.
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And really quick, let me add something else I want to add to that, too, Ben. I also think that, and this might be eye-opening to some, but I also think that's part of the Marxist movement as well, Ben.
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Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I've seen those communist manifesto things years ago, back in, like, 1990s. And I would tell people, hey, this is coming along. And they're like, yeah, right. You know, was there a black helicopter? And I'm thinking, well, now that it's really happening, do you believe me now? And you've got guys like Jared Polis who's helping bring it about. And, by the way, it disgusts me that Polis behaves that way because probably the municipal cops – would have handled that if you took the gloves off. And the federal government I never thought I'd be thanking them for doing our dirty work, because I usually don't like big government, but by God, it's working.
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And this is, again, not trying to, you know, anybody that's working for Aurora Police and so on, and there's a lot of great men and women, I'm sure, that are there, Ben, that probably felt very frustrated that they couldn't do things about this and probably realized that there was a real problem there, but their hands were tied because of you know, city government and so on. That's the problem, by the way. When you get outside of the sheriff's department, by the way, which sheriff is elected and becomes the, you know, the supreme law of the land, if you would, that, you know, as you know, the sheriffs are elected and they are number one when it comes to these things. The reality, though, Ben, every other local agency, including Aurora PD, keep in mind that everybody in the hierarchy there is subject to city hall and so on. And that's the problem with a lot of police departments, if you ask me.
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I couldn't agree more. I say, really, in Colorado, it's time for us to take out the trash in terms of these leaders. Absolutely. It really is. And a lot of people would say, oh, it'll never happen here. Wait a minute. Yeah, just a couple of months ago, I heard Trump would never get elected. Yeah, don't hold your breath. And California, oh, it's done for. Well, you know, I think that, you know, when you look at their state and ours, pretty soon... Everybody's going to have enough. You've got to reach this critical mass where instead of figuring out this was dumb a few years ago, electing and signing on with these people, then it's like, hey, wait a minute. We're done with this. We've figured out it doesn't work out. And I don't know, honestly, why more people haven't figured that out, these con artists.
SPEAKER 09 :
They might be, Ben. In fact, I will tell you, I've got some things. We've got a guest here at 3.30, and I'm going to come back and talk about some of the things that Polis has said regarding us not being a sanctuary state. And, of course, Governor Polis, he's always vying for – in my opinion, he's vying for the presidency. He does everything he can to sort of – move in that direction although i will tell you some of the things that he has done of late including this particular statement is not going to bode well for him going down the road because the reality is uh you can call him out on a lot of these things and show his hypocrisy
SPEAKER 03 :
Just show the facts. You know, it's time for a new governor. And all the women out there and people that think that this is a good idea, is this really what you want for your kids, your family, your economy, and your community? You know, I'm not all in with different big business and things that go on in America. But this is doubling down. Some of these trends are stupid.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. Can't argue that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll let you go. Thanks, Ben.
SPEAKER 09 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And yes, I've got a full timeline, by the way, of events here in Colorado that disprove what Governor Polis has said recently about Colorado not being a sanctuary state. So I'll get into that here once we're done and we come back after our next guest who we've got with us right now. Cheryl Chumley joining us. Cheryl, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm doing great. Thank you for having me.
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Author of God Given or Bust, Defeating Marxism and Saving America with Biblical Truths. I got done in the last segment, literally opened up. We've had all sorts of things going on regarding immigration and different things along those lines, Cheryl. And over the weekend, we had a big bust here. in Colorado where 50 gang members were arrested, and I'm not sure exactly where they're going to go from here, but my point was that open borders, which create all sorts of chaos and havoc in America, are also one of the foundations of Marxism.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. And look, this is great news. You know, if your listeners are like me, my head's been spinning at how fast Trump is undoing all the damage from the previous administration. But, and this is why I wrote the book, God Given or Bust. Sooner or later, Trump is going to leave office, right? Sooner or later, there's going to be a Democrat in the White House, and we're going to be having to go through the same exhausting battles all over again. So while we're winning right now, and while we have a little bit of breather in the politics and culture, You know, I say we look ahead to the bigger fight for freedom in America, and it's to get our political leaders to realize and abide the concept of American exceptionalism, that is, that our rights come from a creator. And they're only there as humble public servants to protect those birthrights.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And I look at it, Cheryl, as it's good versus evil, not saying that every single person that is not a Marxist is good, but literally the battle is good versus evil. And Cheryl, the other thing – and I'm glad you said what you said because not only do we have to worry about when the next presidency changes, but the reality is behind the scenes – and this is for everybody listening – Yes, Donald Trump's doing some fabulous things. Yes, a lot of the folks that he appoints will do some fabulous things as well. And the reality is that the tide will be changed to a certain degree, Cheryl. But don't think for one second that behind the scenes all of these Marxists have given up because they haven't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, just look at the media, right? I mean, look at how the media is trying to already poke holes in Donald Trump's successes. So, you know, give it a couple more months and the media will be in full stride. The behind-scenes, deep-state, nefarious forces that really came out swinging at Donald Trump the first time around, they're regrouping. They're re-strategizing, and they're going to come out with something else soon. It's not going to be Russia collusion, but it'll be something else.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely, yeah. I want to remind everybody, and you know this, Cheryl, the Marxist movement isn't going to stop. It may get delayed ever so slightly. We may be able to, you know. Again, this is a great war. We may be able to win some battles, push some things back here or there. Eventually, we want to win overall. But as you know, this is a continual battle that, in my opinion, will continue on until the second coming.
SPEAKER 05 :
It will. And these are all really, look at it, all these fights that we engage in on the political and cultural fronts and even economical fronts. They're all kind of whack-a-mole battles, right? They're smaller ones. You put one out and then another one pops up. But if you keep in mind that the actual war is in line with the battle of principalities, as you described, good versus evil, right? It's the fight for individualism versus collectivism. God-given rights versus government-granted rights. That's what the ultimate war is in America, to make sure that we have individual liberties and rights for the long term.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's absolutely right. And so many people, well, because we don't teach what you just said anymore, Cheryl, that's not taught in our school systems any longer. By the way, that's part of Marxism as well. That's on purpose. They don't want people knowing and realizing and being taught from an early age what you just said.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they don't. And as a matter of fact, and I've covered this in a couple of past books I've written, for years now, the Democrat Socialists of America, the DSA, has been actively recruiting members to go into the school systems, into the public school systems, and become teachers and administrators in order to train the next generation of American leaders in the socialist way to go, which includes booting truthful history and, God forbid, civics lessons.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And Cheryl, what you're talking about, and I've said this over and over and over again, the Marxists and that whole movement, they're playing the long game. They've been playing it for 60, maybe even 70 plus years now, Cheryl, here in the United States of America. The reality is they play the long game. Well, I hate to say this. Our side plays the short game.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and that's the problem, and that's really why I wrote this book, because I want to sort of tweak our fight to look at the long game here, right? And what happens is, it sort of clarifies the battle, right? Because then it becomes all about fighting for the God-given, and if you win that, everything else falls into place. But there's also the added benefit in that it energizes you. Because think how exhausting it is to fight this battle. You get a win and then move on to that battle. You get a lose, right? It's one step forward, ten steps back. But if you keep in mind the larger war here, suddenly it just becomes one war, not a million battles.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that's where, Cheryl, again, not trying to boost the other side or give them kudos of any kind, but the reality is they do very well at what you just said. And by the way, they're really good at also – and by the way, not all. I'm talking about those that are – the ringleaders behind all of this. I'm not talking about the minions, the worker bees, if you would. I'm talking about those that are really behind the scenes trying to push all this stuff through, Cheryl. They understand there's going to be some losses. They also know there's going to be wins. They're really good at, by the way, how should I say this, celebrating their wins, not getting too down and out about the losses and continuing on with their fight. We need to take some of that on our side and do the exact same thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because mostly all they have is this world, right? Right. If you look at the left, they're largely filled with secularists, humanists, atheists, right? So they think this is it. When they die, whatever they leave behind in terms of their political wins, that's their legacy. They have no concept or belief in a higher power, an afterlife, a second life. And so that's why they can afford to dig in and give all to this life, because that's all they think.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and by the way, I'm not saying that our side is wrong in how we look at things because we look at differently. We know that there's a different end. We look at things, to your point, about how they see things. We are completely the opposite, but on the same token, Cheryl, We do live here. We are present now. There are certain God-given things that we should and have to be doing to continue to fight against the evil that's out there. It's very much what God told us to do since the fall of man. I mean, the reality is we are to be fighting with every single thing we possibly can. And I'm afraid at times, Cheryl, some of us just think, oh, you know, it's going to be what it's going to be, and I know where I'm going in the end, so who cares?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I live in this world, but not of this world. Jesus commands me to obey our elected leaders because they're appointed.
SPEAKER 09 :
And by the way, that is not even scriptural for the government we have today, but that's a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's true, because that— We don't live in a kingdom.
SPEAKER 09 :
We live in a constitutional republic where we personally are the kings, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. And, you know, that whole line that Jesus would be a socialist if he were here today. No, he wouldn't. Yeah. You know, read your Bible. Read your Bible properly. And the reason that we are facing dark times in America right now, well, we were up until the inauguration, was because Christians, those who supposedly know better about Judeo-Christian rights because they understand the Judeo-Christian principles in the Bible, sat too long on the sidelines, didn't want to get involved. Right. And this is how evil takes root. That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's exactly right. No, you are spot on. As you can tell, we very much think alike. I'm glad you wrote the book, because I am not an author. And those of you listening, God Given or Bust, Defeating Marxism and Saving America with Biblical Truth. And really what we're saying, Cheryl, is, you know, saving America the way it's supposed to be. In other words, having a real revival, if you would, getting people back to the core of not only how this country was founded, but how our faith was founded as well. And the reality is we've gotten far too away from some of those things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness endowed by our Creator. That's the concept we're going for.
SPEAKER 09 :
Cheryl, thank you for being with us. I appreciate it very much, and thank you for the book. And one last thing, too. Where do people get it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Amazon, anywhere books are available. Thank you for that.
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All right. In response to a few, whether it be text messages, posts on different forums and things like that, Charlie and I were just talking a moment ago that there's folks out there now that, of course, on the left typically will now come in and say, well, you know, this big raid that happened in Denver in the 50 that were arrested, you know, that really that was happening a couple of months prior. And, you know, that's actually you know, that's really not Donald Trump. You can't credit that to him. But. When was the election? Two plus months ago? How many things started to change immediately after the election, including even some of the things that Biden and some of those folks were even doing? And yeah, I won't tell you that the people that did the raid were probably those still working in Washington. the Biden regime, if you would, or under the past administration. I mean, let's face it, those are probably the same folks that were out there now that have been doing these things for quite some time. Although I will tell you, and I haven't interviewed any of them, so I can't talk to them and I can't say this for sure, but I'm guessing that they feel a freedom now to to do some things that they probably felt a little bit handcuffed to do prior to now, and you got to believe that they have just felt unleashed to do the things that they've been wanting to do in these areas for quite some time, and they now can, and by the way, did. Now— I also had somebody that said, you know, don't be too hard on, you know, Aurora PD and so on, because, you know, in a lot of cases, they're probably just not equipped to even handle these things the way that, you know, in this particular case, the feds and ICE and so on would be able to do. And I can't disagree with that. In fact, I've talked about some of this stuff. And by the way, it's why I and I've had a lot of kickback on this from not a lot of you, but there are a few listeners that really give me fits over this particular statement. It's why I don't like the weaponization, militarily speaking, of local PDs. I don't want them having armored vehicles and tanks and things like that. And some would come back and say, well, if they did, they could go in and handle these sorts of things like this gang that took over an apartment complex in Aurora. Well, and that's where I draw the line and say, well, you know, at that particular point in time where it's because of a administration that allowed open borders and these folks flooded in and this gang then took over that particular building, that's not the local PD's responsibility to fix. That is a situation where the Fed should come in and fix it. We didn't open the border. Aurora PD did not open the border. Whether some of them on that police department agree with it or not, the reality is they were not key and instrumental in having the border open. So the reality is, because of the border being open, is why we had that apartment complex and this gang running amok all over Aurora, by the way. And it's not just Aurora. They were doing things even in downtown Denver and so on. But yet we had city officials, Johnston, a governor... et cetera, that basically said, yeah, this isn't going on. Just look the other way. My point is, I agree that the Aurora PD is probably not equipped to go in and handle 50 gang members like this and handle this particular situation. And I would add to that, nor do I want them to. I don't want that out of a local police department. It's like I've said many times. It's why I don't want local police departments, sheriffs, and other type agencies owning ex-military vehicles and the like. It's not their responsibility to do these things. And I don't want them armed that way. And I know I might be even a little bit unique on the conservative front to even say those things, but I don't want a local PD and a local police force becoming the feds. I don't want a federal police force either. I don't want local police agencies being weaponized in that way. Now, should they be able to have AR-15s and things along those lines, and should they have a SWAT department and so on, a bomb squad? Yeah, some of those probably are okay in certain circumstances and so on, and I'm not against SWAT or bomb squads or anything along those lines, but I am against... having armored vehicles inside of police agencies, local police agencies. I just don't feel like that's the proper role of government. And I know some would argue with me and some I've had long debates via email back and forth from certain individuals when it comes to this. And some people, frankly, probably don't even listen to me any longer because of my stance in that particular area. But I'm not backing down. I think it gives the wrong perception to the citizens in that particular town, city, whatever it is, when that police department becomes that. And I think it sends the wrong signal and the wrong message. That's my opinion, and I know others may have differences of opinions on that, and that's fine. We can, in some cases, agree to disagree. We don't always agree, and that's fine. But in that particular case, in this case, I should say, yeah, I don't think it was the Aurora PD's responsibility to round these 50 gang members up. I do think this is a situation where ICE and others, DEA, et cetera, should come in and help round these individuals up. They're equipped for this. That's what they've been trained to do. Fine. Come in and do your job. Now, I also will tell you that despite what some might say, that this isn't under Donald Trump's watch, that this really happened. This was prior to him. I would argue that and say, yeah, maybe the investigative part of it was before Trump was inaugurated. But the reality is this arrest didn't happen two weeks ago. This arrest didn't happen a few days before Trump was inaugurated. It happened within a week of him being inaugurated, mainly because the mandate now coming out of Holman is we are going to send these bad guys home. We are not putting up with this any longer. There is a mandate to get rid of these individuals that have flooded our country, especially the bad actors, and they're not going to do this any longer. And by the way, that's the way it should have been from day one. But it hasn't been because we've had an administration that literally put in open borders on purpose because of what I've talked about already up to this point. It's the Marxist way of doing things. It creates chaos. It disrupts. It even gets focused in some areas. where you're focused here and they're doing something else over there. Yeah, that's the way the Marxists want, and that was part of the movement. And frankly, at least at this point in time, back to our guest we had a moment ago, Cheryl, at least it's been stopped for now. Will it be stopped forever? That depends on how people vote. I do think right now there's been a huge wake-up call to a lot of Americans to where they're looking at this now and saying, wow, this guy means business. We're not dinking around as a country. We're actually flying these people back to where they came from because we're not going to let these bad actors hang around. which you've got to look at the rest of the population. And I know there's a lot of folks on the left, and they're running around talking about a revolt and things along those lines. Keep in mind, these are a bunch of wussy lefties that, frankly, I'm not sure even know which end of the gun to shoot. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. They act all tough, but they're a bunch of wussies. They're all talk, all bark. Reality is most of them don't even know what gender they are, and they're going to have some sort of a revolution. I'm sorry. No, you're not. Go figure out what you're going to do next as far as the color of your hair or the gender that you want to be and everything else, and if you're going to shave your head or not, because that's another big thing that a lot of those folks have done of late in protest to Donald Trump. They can't even figure out what they're doing as far as that goes, and they're going to lead a revolution? Yeah, I think not. Sorry. Not going to happen. And I don't say that lightly, by the way, because there are those on that side. I've seen them. Some have even been arrested of late for trying to organize some of these things. So I'm not saying that this isn't going on because it is. What I'm saying is good luck. You know, good luck. I don't think that that side really wants to see how that ends if they follow through with some of these things. I've said that for years. The left doesn't understand the right at all. And we're nice. We like to get along. You know, we're the type that, you know, wave and shake hands and do all sorts of things along those lines. And, oh, by the way, also probably have, you know, several different firearms that we own. And, you know, the stats show that, by and large, we own the majority. They don't. Now, of late, because of crime and so on, a lot of folks on the left have gone out and bought firearms and done things along those lines. But by and large, that's not typically the gun-toting American citizen. Most gun-toting American citizens are on the right or on the conservative side, or at least down the middle. And what I'm saying is those that are on the left that are trying to create and start this quote-unquote revolution, it's not going to end well, folks. If you're a lefty listening to me and you're one of those, you know, have fun. More power to you. But it's not going to end well. I don't need a crystal ball for it. I can just tell you the math isn't in your favor. You're heading down a street or the old Top Gun saying, you know, you're doing something, you know, writing a check that your body can't cash. That's the reality of it. You're doing something that you really don't have the ability to do nor should be doing in the first place. And when it goes wrong, you're going to wish you'd never started down that path. I know you're all upset because Donald Trump won. Well, suck it up, buttercup. Don't know what to tell you. It is what it is. Overwhelmingly, Donald Trump won the last election. Overwhelmingly. Meaning the majority of voters in this country, not even the electorate, just voters in general, are tired of the direction the country was headed. They want a change. And I've said it a number of times. It's not even so much Donald Trump that they voted for. It's that they voted for somebody that would come in and put a stop to the nonsense. Literally, put a stop to the nonsense. And a lot of young men especially are tired of being put down, tired of being told they don't matter, tired of literally just being told you don't amount to anything. And they came up and voted and voted for the guy in charge right now. So those of you that are out there trying to start some revolution, which most of you are young white females, by the way. Amazingly enough, most of them that I have seen that want to do this revelation aren't young white males or young black males or young Asian males or young Hispanic males. 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All right, we are back. About a minute left here of this particular hour. We've got two more hours coming your way. Of course, I didn't get a chance to go through the timeline proving that Governor Polis is 100% wrong when he says that Colorado is not a sanctuary state. That was, by the way, a statement he made back to a sheriff that had said that basically we are. We are. I mean, I've been on air here for, gosh, the past decade plus. And yes, from the point Governor Polis got elected until now, he's done everything possible to make sure he assists all the different towns and so on that want to go that route and be a sanctuary city. He has very much been behind them, and there's all sorts of bills in this state that have been passed that he has signed. that would tell you otherwise as far as what he's saying. In other words, he's dead wrong. He's a liar, which we know he is. He's a hypocrite, which we know he is. And I'll go through some of that timeline here as soon as we come back here, top of the hour. So don't go anywhere. Hour two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. And yes, Polis, Governor Polis, has said publicly, I was going to play the clip, but I'm talking too much and we're tighter on time today than what I would like, so I'm not going to take time to play. You can go look it up for yourself. I'll put the link in our show notes. Not a sanctuary state. That's what Governor Polis says. And this is after Jeff Crank and some others have called for a change to our immigration policies in Colorado. By the way, wasn't Jeff Crank one of the folks elected in spite of the Colorado GOP? That's for tomorrow. Andy and I can maybe talk about some of that tomorrow. But let's go through some of the timeline towards a sanctuary state. Now, I'd have to go back in memory and remember when Polis actually came into office. So he is on the second year... or sorry, the second half of his term. So let's see, Charlie, going back in time, he was elected in 2022, meaning that he was elected the first time in 2018. Am I thinking correctly? Yes, that would be right, 2018. So as we go through this timeline, think of where 2018 lies in what I'm going to be mentioning here as we go through this timeline. So first, 2013, HB 13-1258, which repealed SB 90, which was a bill back in 06 signed by Bill Owens, which banned sanctuary cities in Colorado at that time. The 2013 bill prevented local law enforcement from cooperating with immigration officials, making sanctuary cities once again possible in Colorado. So that would have been under Hickenlooper. I'm thinking, is that correct, Charlie? Because he was before Polis, right? So that was a Democrat, is my point. That was Hickenlooper. Which, remember, he'll be running again for his Senate seat in two years. So just remember some of these things, because that was Hickenlooper that signed that one. 2013, Colorado allowed driver's licenses for illegal aliens, and they increased the scope of that in 2019. Again, now Governor Polis is governor to include ID cards. 2013, the state allowed in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, again, under Hickenlooper. 2019, so now from this point forward, everything else I'm going to say is under polis, okay? So 2019, HB 19-11-24 was signed, preventing local law enforcement cooperation with ICE. This bill included probation in the law, which keeps probation from notifying ICE when a criminal alien is released back into the community. OK, so we have a law in Colorado right now on the books. They cannot communicate. 2020 SB 83 keeps ice out of all courthouses and makes it illegal for ice agents to enter courthouses to arrest illegal aliens. Governor Polis signed that one. 2021, SB 21-199 provides state benefits to illegal aliens. The state estimates 162,000 illegal aliens at that time. It made available state benefits including dental care, mental health counseling, family services. It also expanded eligibility for property tax, rent, and utility subsidies. Did any of you get that, by the way, listening? I didn't. Charlie, did you? No, neither one of us got that. Okay, again, 2021. SB 21-1054 was signed and passed to allow illegal aliens to get housing assistance. So not only can they get everything I mentioned a moment ago, but then we can assist them with housing on top of that. Your tax dollars, by the way, because government has no money. Always remember that. Government has no money other than what they confiscate from you, the taxpayer. And I use confiscate purposely because that's what happens. SB 21077, also in 2021, allowed professional credentialing for illegal aliens. In other words, you can be a hairdresser, a massage therapist, tattoo artist, etc., get credentialing under DORA in Colorado, and not be here legally. 2021 established a defense fund with state money called the... Funny, state money. No, with our money is what this should say. It's called the Immigrant Legal Defense Fund. Now, it's actually the illegal alien defense fund that we as taxpayers are paying for. Governor Polis signed that again in 2021. 2023, just a year ago. HB 231100 law was signed which stopped immigration detention in county jails. But yet Governor Polis has the gall to come out publicly and say we are not a sanctuary state. I guess I'd like to know what his definition of a sanctuary state is. Every single thing that I've read to you that's happened since about 2013 would give any illegal alien out there plenty of reasons to come to Colorado and hang out. Plenty. And by the way, this is a slap in the face to all of those individual immigrants that came here illegally and went through the proper channels. It's a slap in the face to all of them. And there are some of them listening, I know, because I have friends that fit that description. But yeah, Governor Polis, he's trying to convince everybody right now. And this is his chameleon liar approach to things. He likes to go with whatever the actual narrative is at that time. That's Governor Polis. He definitely doesn't have any backbone other than he's a true Marxist. Other than that, he'll go with whatever the tide, however that's flowing at that time, that's what he's going to go with. That'll be his narrative. Right now, it's in his best interest to say that Colorado is not a sanctuary state, but it is. And Governor Polis, you've made it that way. You have assisted in that. Because guess what? You could have vetoed any of these things. You could have given marching orders to your party to say, we're not going down this path. Governor Hickenlooper, who you know and who's your pal, could have done the same thing, but he didn't. He opened the door. He actually started it. You finished it. And as a side note, Coloradans, it's time for a new governor, not just in the way of polis. I mean, we need a Republican governor in Colorado. It's high time. A change needs to be made. Those of you that are transplants moving in, we need a change. Don't bring your crappy laws and your crappy politics that you came from California or wherever else from, don't bring them here. I mean that sincerely. If you're a transplant from one of those other states that's very blue, please, stop bringing your crap here. We're tired of it. At least I am. I'm a native of this state. I'm tired of your politics. I'm tired of the way you're ruining Colorado. You're not helping. You're making it worse. But back to Polis. The guy's a scumbag. I have no other way to say it. I have no respect for the man whatsoever. He's a scumbag. He's a user. Let's just say it that way. He is a user. Probably a better way for me to say it. He knows how to use people and things to get what he wants when it's all said and done. And by the way, it's been that way for him even when he was in the private sector. Even when he was in charge of his family's business, which is how he got his start, by the way. You can go back and look at his history. And I know a lot about his family history because, again, I'm a Colorado native. And my family actually used to deal with his family in the car business. Decades ago. So, yes, I have some personal history here that most in the state don't have. And I will tell you straight up, Governor Polis is a user. Go back and see when did he change his name and look at the events surrounding that, by the way, because Polis isn't his original name. That's his mom's maiden name. So go back and if you don't believe anything I'm saying, even those of you on the left, if you don't believe what I'm saying, go back and look it up. I'm not lying about anything. I'm not telling you anything that's not true that you can't go find and fact check on me. He's a user. It's what he does. And he's used Colorado and the citizenry to get where he wants to go. Now, he comes across as, you know, Mr. Nice Guy, and he can speak Spanish, and he's going to talk to the immigrants and this, that, and the other, and he'll do that in his press conferences. He is the biggest fake there is. Fake as a $3 bill. The guy is a user to the max. And it's high time we started calling him out on this stuff. And that's what he did this weekend. He's a user. He's trying to tell everybody we're not a sanctuary state. I didn't have anything to do with this. I didn't create this. But he did. And his party for sure did. And he's a part of the party, believe me, through and through. He'll come at you with, you know, oh, I'm more libertarian minded and, you know, I believe in that end of things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Again, he's a user. He does what he needs to do to get where he wants to go at the end of the day. He's a user. And those of you that are on the left, I would hope you'd start seeing that by now. He's not even for you. He's for him. Governor Polis, like Dave Williams, by the way, only does what works for Governor Polis. He didn't care about anybody else. He is on a mission to the presidency and he's going to do every single thing he possibly can. That's why he said this weekend Colorado is not a sanctuary state. He is vying for the presidency. Unfortunately, when somebody like me goes through and says everything that I just said and you go through the timeline, he can't back that up. 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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Real quick before I move on with some things going on here locally in Colorado, and a lot of you texting in about Governor Polis and agreeing with everything I said. Thank you, by the way. I appreciate the vote of confidence, and I think most of you, at least on our side of the aisle, know exactly who Governor Polis is and what he tries to get done. who he's in it for, by the way. But don't forget, tomorrow, Stop the Gun Ban Rally will be at the Capitol, 1.30 on tomorrow. So it starts at 1.30 and then goes on. It's in relation to Senate Bill 25-003. If you want more info, just go to WeTheSecond.com. WeTheSecond.com, and that is for tomorrow. Joe, what's going on?
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John, just a contrast between Trump's deportations and Biden. By the way, If you return somebody to their home country, isn't that a repatriation, not a deportation?
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Yeah, that would make more sense. Because you can just deport them out, period, and then go wherever they want to. In that case, yes, you're right.
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No, no, but we're setting them back to their home. When Hamas releases Israeli citizens back to Israel, they are repatriating those Israeli hostages, those people being detained.
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They're not just deporting them.
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They're right. They're not being deported. So we're just repatriating them. But I wanted to point out a difference. In the last year, the Biden administration, do you know how many deportations per day were taking place under Biden?
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I haven't looked, Joe. No idea.
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Well, it was 271,000 for the year, which is 750 a day. Now, granted, most of them were right at the border. They would apprehend these people, bone process them, fingerprint them, and they'd put them right back over. But Biden... Biden administration was was shipping people back by air back to home countries. I guess the difference is they did it very low key. And, you know, I guess they didn't want to advertise the fact that we're sending people home. But but nobody protested when Biden did it because they didn't advertise the fact.
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Right. Good point.
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But, yeah, Biden was doing 750 deportations per day now.
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At the same time, they were letting – so, yeah, they were – Deporting some but allowing thousands more in each day.
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Yeah, they were deporting 270,000 a year but letting 2 million a year come in. So a net increase of 1.75 million. By the way, interesting thing happened. Within a week of Biden – of Trump being inaugurated, the number of southern border and what they call an encounter has fallen by half. Half. Half. And I guess that's because people are figuring out if we get across, we're going to be sent right back over. So it's already having, you know, call it the Trump effect, if you will.
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Right.
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But the number of daily encounters is down by half in seven days.
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That's amazing. That's a ton, Joe. Wow.
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That's a ton. Only stats I got for you today, John.
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You're awesome, Joe. As always, I appreciate you, sir, very much. One other thing, too, before we continue on, and that is what I was going to say is outside of Colorado, Trump and student loans. He has actually, Donald Trump has, his administration has, has asked the Supreme Court to freeze the deadlines in some of the legal cases that are out there going against Biden's executive orders when it comes to forgiving student loans and so on. In other words... What they're saying is we're most likely going to end this in other ways. There's no sense in you, the Supreme Court, wasting any more time on this. In other words, let's table this for now. We're not going to continue to run these cases forward. Our legal – system, you know, that we're in charge of, we're not going to do this moving forward. So the reality is table these for now, because we're most likely going to fix this in another way. So point being, and you guys know my feelings on student loans and how that works. I, as a taxpayer, should not be responsible for paying back your student loans. You did that on your own. Nobody forced you to do it. Now, I know some would say, well, yeah, but there is some coercion and this, that, and the other. Okay, maybe. But at the end of the day, you signed on the dotted line. You're supposed to read those things before you sign. Nobody's coming along paying my bills. offering to pay things that I've signed for over the years. Never once has anyone ever come along and offered to do that. So reality is we shouldn't be responsible for you either. That's on you. You signed up for it. It's your responsibility to now pay them back. And I get it. A lot of people got a crappy education and spent a lot of money on student loans to get it. Again, not my problem. That's like somebody buying a bad car. Am I responsible for paying their car payment because they bought a bad car or didn't buy the right car? And really, let me explain it that way. I didn't even say that right. It's not that somebody buys a bad car and then falls on them. We've got lemon laws and things like that in most cases. Really what happens in a lot of cases is the person buys the wrong car, and then they're mad. And they want something done because they bought the wrong car. I look at student loans as very much the same thing. They bought the wrong education. that either A, should have went into the trades, B, not gone at all, C, studied the right things that actually now provide a good income when you're done, and dropped the goofy degree that they got instead. On top of that, the other thing that I know about student loans that doesn't get advertised much, most people don't talk about this, keep in mind a lot of these loans wasn't just for tuition. A lot of student loans go towards supporting that student while they're in school. In other words, they can pay for their apartment. They can pay room and board at the university that they're at. They can pay for food and whatever else they decide to pay for. Sort of a blanket check. Yes, it covers tuition, but they've got money on top of that. When you hear of people having huge student loans, $100,000 plus, trust me, that wasn't all tuition. Not in most cases. So again, why should we as taxpayers be paying that back for people? We shouldn't be. And Donald Trump at this point is going to put a stop to that because basically what he's telling the Supreme Court is, yeah, you can kind of shove that one off to the side right now because we're not pursuing that. We're going to head a different direction and change things when it comes to student loans anyways. Now, I also will say this, and I've said this for years. Part of the reason some of these folks got in this predicament in the first place is because the government got in the student loan business. At one point in time, and Joe and I have talked about this many times, you couldn't borrow money on student loans like they can today. You had to have a STEM degree or you weren't going to get a student loan. And then you had to even prove what you were doing and, in some cases, the grades that you were receiving and, and, and. So we've loosened that greatly when the government got in the student loan business, which, frankly, one of the things I would love to see Donald Trump do is get us out of that. Get us out of the student loan business. Put it back in the private hands. And then when you put it back in the private hands, universities should be on the hook for a certain amount of that tuition. In other words, if that loan doesn't get paid, so it's $100,000, we'll use that number, and it doesn't get repaid somehow, I think 20% of that should be on the university. Period. There's incentive that way for the university to make sure the kids get a good education. And by the way, being placed and having a job when they're done. And you get where I'm going with that. So so many things you could revamp in that whole end of things. And by the way, that's coming from somebody that never went to college. So you might be talking to the wrong person, although I think I could fix this. and never being because I still know how it all works. All right, we'll be back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Golden Eagle Financial, speaking of finances, that is next. Al will help you figure out a way to get to retirement and stay there. All you have to do is call him today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. My son Richard joining us now. Richard, are you there? I am. All right. Okay, so unless you are an Eagles fan or a dreaded Kansas City fan, you probably weren't super happy yesterday.
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Yeah, unless... Yeah, I mean, a very small section of the country and then a large section of said country is going to be Eagles fans, right? Because we around here especially don't like... the Chiefs winning, right? I mean, honestly, if a meteor could strike and prevent us from doing anything, then we'll just call it a win overall. But I don't think we're going to quite get that lucky. But, yeah, an un... Man, just a terrible weekend, I'll say it. It was just not a fun weekend.
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Yeah, and again, I know that a lot of people are mad at all sorts of things in both games, but especially the Kansas City game. But I am to the point where I really could care anything about what goes on with the Super Bowl, and I'm not normally that way. But I despise the Chiefs so much that I'm not sure I'll even watch it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I think a lot of people feel that way. It's a rematch from two years ago. It feels like, and I'm sure Andy and I will talk about it this weekend, next, it feels like a foregone conclusion that the Chiefs are going to win it. It just seems that way. I don't know how else to say that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Really quick, and I'll let you and Andy discuss this, but I remember Andy specifically saying there's not an AFC team out there that's good enough to beat an NFC team when it comes to the Finals.
SPEAKER 16 :
He did, and I'll be serious.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did he not say that?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, he did, and he's been adamant about his Lions. He would shoot me for saying that. About the Lions, and then he was adamant about the Eagles, with how they look. Dad, we've come to know here in Bronco land, as John Elway would say, I don't feel like the Chiefs are going to lose at this point, and I'm just sort of setting myself up for that. And maybe this is how the Patriots fans and the Jets fans and all of those fans felt that over all the years, right? Or not the Patriots fans, the Jets fans, the Dolphins fans, the Bills fans even, felt when Brady and the Patriots were winning all that time. It's just like nothing you do can stop this guy. And I'm not saying that Mahomes is the greatest. I think the dude's well on his way. I mean, this is the guy's seventh full season playing. The lowest level he's gotten to is losing in overtime in the AFC Championship game. This will be his fifth Super Bowl. he's gone to, he's only lost one, and he has a chance to three-peat, which has never been done before in the entire history of the National Football League. Now, it went before the National Football League. I think there was a team that three-peated, but that doesn't count. And so in the modern, it's never been done. And as much as it pains me to say, I just don't foresee it. So, yeah, to answer your original question, this was just a lousy sports weekend. I hate it. I just am in this. apathy sense that you know it's one thing that you know when we look back and you we look at michael jordan's bulls teams right or even the lakers but michael jordan right mid 90s they win three in a row then he takes a year off then they win another three in a row like i'm sure the entirety of the basketball world was probably tired of the chicago bulls at that point in time And that's, I feel, but maybe they weren't. I don't know. Maybe Jordan had a different aura about him. I don't know. You were more into that.
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It was different. And let me tell you what the difference was. I think people listening could probably relate to that. While a lot of people got tired of him winning, I think you also looked at Michael Jordan in a different way. And, of course, basketball is a little bit different than football. And, yes, there's always questionable calls in basketball online. Although of late and when you and I get it, you know, people can, you know, throw all sorts of different things out when it comes to memes and so on. But when you've got the majority of the country asking if the NFL is rigged, even famous people like Dave Portnoy, who, you know, who, by the way, I don't know that I. care for the guy or dislike the guy at all either way. I mean, he just is who he is. He's a guy that can rub people really the wrong way, although I think sometimes he's pretty spot on in some of the things that he comes out with, you know, barstool sports. And the reality, Richards, when you've got guys even like him calling, okay, NFL, Goodell, are you guys really fair in what you're doing or is this thing rigged? And any time that gets asked, the NFL needs to take a step back and say, okay, wait a minute, we have a problem here.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I agree with you. And here's the deal. I will say this first off, and Kansas City fans, I do not think that any one call yesterday, or even a multitude of calls, took the game away from the Bills and gave it to the Chiefs. I think that there were some iffy calls, some questionable calls, right? That fourth down call was a little bit questionable, I think. I think the catch, you know, where Mahomes just threw it up and his guy caught it on the goal line, basically, was iffy. But here's the deal. I don't think that the league has it out for them. In fact, I think it's actually better for the league if more teams win, right? Because if you as a fan base feel like your team has a chance you were more bought in to that season and that thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
For example, my comment a moment ago about how the Super Bowl is not even exciting, why should I watch? And I know I'm not the only person because I've seen social media. I'm not the only person saying that. If the NFL is not careful, they end up with a situation where nobody wants to watch these big, huge games that, by the way, they make a lot of money off of.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I will be curious and we'll be able to talk, you know, basically two weeks from today to see what ends up happening. And, Dad, if anything has sort of come, well, we'll just see the ratings, right? At that point in time, we will know what the ratings are and what they're going to be. Not all of all time, but lowest in the last number of years. And you're going to see that. You will see some Chiefs fatigue. You saw the same stuff with the Patriots. There was some Patriots fatigue. And again, right, wrong, or otherwise, it's just a fact. Now, Chiefs fans, I will say this. Take advantage of it, right? If your team's this good, you'll eat it up. It won't last forever, though. What's that?
SPEAKER 07 :
It won't last forever.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's where I had Dr. Chiefs in today, and he was saying the same thing, which is, you know, I know it's not. And, you know, they suffered through one in 15 seasons and terrible coaches and all that. And it's just, you know, sometimes there's just luck. And there is luck in sports, Dad, right? There is. You lucked into a coach like Andy Reid, who was fired by the Eagles, and he learned a lot in his time. They did get lucky in drafting Patrick Mahomes because he wasn't the first quarterback taken. He sort of fell to them. Yeah, they traded up and got him. a lot of things went right for the Chiefs in order for them to take advantage of this. Now, they're taking advantage of it, and, Dad, you know, Mahomes has still got a ways to go, but if he keeps it up, he will be arguably, it's a name that was synonymous with John Elway for all those years, right, which was Clutch, and even Brady. If Mahomes keeps this up, he is going to be 1,000% I'll just say it. He will be the most clutch player, Captain Clutch, whatever you want to say, Captain Mahomes of all time. Just the track that he is on is just incredible.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so, again, all of that to say... If he's got the ball at the end of the game and there's a chance of them scoring to win, he will.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, he's going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's just that simple. And Elway was a lot that way, to your point, although probably not even to the same degree that Mahomes is. And to Mahomes' credit, or maybe to John Elway's credit, it was probably more on him than the rest of the team in the case of Mahomes. He's got a lot of things going in his direction, including, which I can't stand the guy, but Kelsey, because I can't stand Taylor Swift and all of that nonsense. You know, that whole thing just drives me absolutely crazy. And whether you're a Swifty fan or not, I could really care less. The whole thing just drives me nuts. It's like, wait a minute, what's the game about her or the game itself? I could care less anything about her. Yes, I get it. She's brought some fans and things to the NFL and all that, but I just can't stand the guy. I'm sorry. And I know I shouldn't. He's probably a really great guy, but I can't stand the guy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you know, I'll say it's kind of like Barack Obama, right? He's probably a guy where you can sit down and have a beer with him. You really have a good time, and you really enjoy it. And same with Patrick Mahomes. But it doesn't mean you've got to like the guy, right? For a variety of reasons, and I'm with you. And honestly, Dad, it pains me to think, because again, we've talked about this a little bit. Even Kelsey, as much as his wife-to-be or whatever, wouldn't want to agree. I think he probably leans right. I think that Mahomes does. You've seen some of the stuff that his wife posts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Definitely does. I'm giving credit there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I think Mahomes actually thinks... God last night, if I'm not mistaken, from what some people were saying. I didn't watch the interview, so I'd have to go back and see. So there's some things there. But you know what? I just, as a Bronco fan, just can't do it. And so this weekend was painful. But you know what? It goes on, and as I have to tell my oldest, and you'll find this funny, Dad, you know, it is just a game. As much as I have to remind myself of that at times, and you had to remind me of that growing up, it is just a game. But again, we talked about this today, Dads. It brings everyone together. We've talked about sports on this program for a long time, and the benefit that sports can bring, even with everything going on, I will say this. The benefit is, I'm not sure many of us, I know this is a sacrilegious on a Crawford station, I'm not sure many of us would be pulling for the Eagles. I mean, these are the fans, Dad, that booed Santa Claus right through snowballs at Santa Claus. And so for all of us to come together and become Eagles fans, unless you live in the Kansas City or Kansas metropolitan region, it's saying something. So, hey, kudos to the Chiefs for bringing us all together under one umbrella.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We've got a couple of car reviews to do. Richard, you lately, and this is a car that's pretty popular among a lot of individuals, 2024 Lexus GX 550 Overtrain. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, sorry, I missed it. 550 Overtrail.
SPEAKER 07 :
Overtrail, Overtrail. Sorry, that was my bad. I knew that, too. Overtrail.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you're good, yeah. So 2024 Lexus GX550, this is the all-new, maybe one of the hottest cars on the market right now, Dad, right? It is a, well, I'll just say it's a hot item in that it is, Lexus has redesigned the GX. It was getting stale, I'll just say it. They've sort of redesigned it a few times. I think they've hit the mark on this vehicle. I've got several compliments on this car, Dad. Several people commented on it, and it's one that we've been wanting to get in for a while now. So we'll jump right into it. Different trim levels, right? There's all sorts of things you can do. The Overtrail is the one that we had more gear towards the off-road. It's got a few different off-road pieces on it as far as... You can read a little bit more about that yourself, depending on how you want to equip it. There's a luxury version that's actually got a third row, which kind of fits into that larger SUV sort of market. But we didn't get a chance to do that. We just had your typical kind of, I guess, it's technically a five-passenger vehicle. I will say this, Dad. It's a new 3.4-liter twin-turbo V6. It's fantastic. And they have solved some of their problems. power problems that they had over the years that you'll talk about here in a second that were well known, right? They did a phenomenal job on it. I think it works well. It drives really well. It drives smooth. It feels smaller than it is, Dad, right? And that you get in this car and you don't feel like you're driving a large boat because sometimes some of the large cars... out there, they have that effect where it feels like you're driving a larger vehicle than you actually are. And that's something that it just can take away from the total value of the car as far as that goes. Its body on frame, as you know, obviously has a lot of the off-road, you know, that gives it some of the off-road capabilities. But you've seen these, you haven't driven it yet, but from what I was describing to you, they made a lot of improvements from the previous generation to this iteration.
SPEAKER 07 :
um i like i've not driven this car but i like the look of this vehicle i think they've done a really good job on it and i've been up and close i've sat in it all of that i mean that part of it richard i really enjoy and i think uh lexus did a really great job or you know toyota that's the owner of lexus they did a really good job on this vehicle one thing though about this particular vehicle that you and i were commenting on because i was driving a vehicle you were driving that vehicle and we were commenting on just everything from road noise and power and different things. But this particular vehicle, because of the roof rack, you didn't care for so much, did you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Dad, I had several people get in it. They are Lexus fanatics. That's all they basically own. And they love everything about this car except for the roof rack. And I'll just say it, Lexus. We had a similar vehicle. I think we had a Toyota, no, a Sequoia that had the similar roof. There's just something about the design of it that causes excess road noise or wind noise above about 50, 55 miles per hour.
SPEAKER 07 :
That would drive me crazy, by the way.
SPEAKER 16 :
And here's the deal, Dad. On an otherwise quiet vehicle on the inside... And like I said, smooth, got a cool, you know, nice cooler box, pun intended. On the inside, you've got really easy to use controls, which I got several compliments on. It takes away from the vehicle. Now, I think you can remove it. And so I'm not going to knock the vehicle for it, right? I think if you got the luxury trim that offers that third row seating, I think you could get away from it. I just would love – because I know the reason they put it on there on the Overtrail is so that you can put some accessories and you can do some things like that with it that you couldn't do maybe standard, right? Or you don't have to buy an aftermarket accessory. I just would love it if they would engineer it better to not have that. Outside of that, Dad, one of my most favorite cars that I've driven over the past number of years – This vehicle, and don't fall out of your chairs, folks, $8,4575, which some of you are going to say, oh, my goodness, folks, for a large SUV that's in the luxury market, which is what this vehicle is, that's right in line, Dad, and some could argue it's even a little bit less cheaper than some of its competitors out there. So I love it. The fuel economy, just for folks, if you care, with the V6, It's got the twin turbo. It doesn't have a hybrid option yet, but I guess we'll see what's coming. I'll be honest. I didn't look too much into that. It's a 15 and 21 for an average of 17. I already gave the price point. I would really highly encourage folks to hear the deal that if you want one of these things, you've almost got to get on a waiting list. That's how much they are in demand right now. So we encourage you, if they have one, maybe they'll let you test drive it at an Alexis dealer. If they don't, still go in, check it out. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, going kind of the other direction from this last review, because this is more of kind of a staple car that most anybody can own and operate if they're in that market for this particular size of vehicle. That's a 2025 Hyundai Tucson XRT.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. So this is, again, a little bit different car, Dad, but very competitive. We've driven Tucson's in the past. It's updated for 2025. There's new infotainment system, new controls. It looks different. It looks a little bit more aggressive, which I really like. They redesigned it back in 2022. So this is kind of like a mid-cycle refresh, I guess you could say that. It gives you roomy interior. Plenty of room to get, and I know you and I talked about this, which you don't care about as much, but that's the car seat factor, right? You can get two booster seats in the back of this car. You can get however you want to apportion it. You can do that. As we know with Hyundai, Dad, and how they've apportioned these cars, they've made them really easy, right? They come very well apportioned for the value. And this car, just so folks know, as it sits, 36,240, Dad. Not bad. So right there in the mid-30s. all-wheel drive vehicle. It's got a, let me see here, two-and-a-half-liter, four-cylinder engine, the eight-speed automatic transmission. Dad, this thing isn't going to be a burner, but it's not meant to be.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's not. This is a car that you can get into. Great, everyday, reliable, you know, transportation. And to your point, if you go look at this compared to other vehicles in its class, this one will have better interior creature comforts than what most of its competitors have.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, they will. And you even get some features that other cars don't have. For example, and I know some people may not think it's a big deal, wireless CarPlay and Android Auto. Wireless device charging. You've got Hyundai Digital Key, which for folks who don't know, basically you put the key on your phone. You don't even need... a key anymore for a lot of these cars, Dad. And so for the price point, really hard to beat. In terms of fuel economy, Dad, $24,000 and $30,000 for an average of $26,000, which is great. Again, especially for what this car is around town. In the mid-30s, Dad, which I think that $36,000 price point is right around, maybe even less than what the average new car costs now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, and then they're in the 50s, so you're well under that, absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, so if you're a younger family looking for reliable transportation, something that sits up a little bit higher, but it's not a large SUV by any stretch of the imagination, but it's got all-wheel drive here in Colorado for all the snow. Some of the snow we get, and even off-road, some of that sort of stuff. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And really quick to this one, as you were saying earlier, this is a vehicle also in its class. You won't find another vehicles becomes it comes standard with a bunch of the safety features like, you know, lane keep assist, you know, lane departure warning, blind spot monitoring, a lot of those different things that in a lot of its competitors you're paying extra for. You're not here.
SPEAKER 16 :
you are correct. And again, there's one thing about Hyundai, I don't think they don't have a ton of, you know, if you pick a trim, you don't add a bunch, but they just kind of have different trim levels, right? Just depends on which direction that you want to go. You can go everywhere from their, you know, low-end SE for just over $30,000 to their high-end limited hybrid, which is about $43,000. And so I can say this middle-of-the-road XRT, it works phenomenal. That's was really impressed with it. And, again, from a kid's standpoint, taking kids to and from school, some of that capability was really nice. They were able to easily access the in and out of the car easy, close the door easy, all those sorts of things. So I encourage folks, especially if you're in your young family, kind of looking for maybe a newer vehicle, whatever it might be. And the last thing I will say is this, Dad, we talk about this from time to time. Hyundai, five-year, 60,000-mile new vehicle warranty, 10-year, 100,000-mile powertrain warranty, seven-year, unlimited-mile anti-perforation warranty, and there's actually also a five-year unlimited roadside assistance warranty. So they've got a lot of warranties that, again, for maybe a young family, dad, whatever it is, may be the car that you're looking for because you don't have to buy all that extra stuff on top of it. So if you're interested, text your local Hyundai dealer. Let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 07 :
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. It is time for our Monday Mortgage Minute, Affordable Interest Mortgage. Kurt Rogers. Kurt, welcome. How are you today? I am doing just fine, John. How about you? I am very well. Talk to us about first-time homebuyers.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right now, there seems to be a surge of those buying homes. And I think some of the reasons are that there's some pretty good pricing out there for you. And there's some, you know, even with rates where they are, there's some first-time homebuyer programs that will allow them to get into a home and have payments lower for the, you know, $500, $600, $700 a month for the first year or two.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
So we're seeing a lot more activity in that. 35% of all homes sold in December were the first-time homebuyers, which is a high number.
SPEAKER 18 :
Are there still incentives, i.e., you know, first-time down payment assistance, things along those lines? And if so, how does that work?
SPEAKER 17 :
There's actually quite a few of those down payment assistance programs. Some of them you put as little as $1,000 or $2,000 down. Others you put maybe 3% down. But they have special rates. and they have either a waiver of or very low mortgage insurance because you're not putting the normal 20%. And rents are still up there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So in other words, now is the time. If you've been waiting and you're thinking, hey, I'm going to wait for things to change, like we've talked about before, just you and I, the problem is the longer you wait, you could run the risk of then we come back into a situation If you would, a seller's market. Right now it's a buyer's market, and if it turns to a seller's market, what you thought you were going to save, you may not be.
SPEAKER 17 :
And that's a key thing I think they're starting to understand, because if the rates come down any more, there's going to be more people wanting to buy the inventory, and then the prices are going to go up, and it's going to make it tougher.
SPEAKER 18 :
So at the end of the day, you may not really be saving when it's all said and done by waiting. And again, you and I have talked about this before, too. If you're thinking that, well, I'm just going to wait until rates come down. Well, you know what? If you can get the right home right now and get in and get going, the reality is if they do come down, okay, fine, redo it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, especially with the programs out there, you can do that pretty inexpensively.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what's the rules along those lines?
SPEAKER 17 :
You have to keep the loan that you initially started with for seven months. After that, you can refinance it.
SPEAKER 18 :
So right now, if you're thinking rates may not be down until the latter part of the year anyways, okay, well, there you go. There's your answer, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
So you get the better rate now.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
The better price.
SPEAKER 18 :
Get the better home now is what I'm getting at.
SPEAKER 1 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
Absolutely. All right. Haystack Help Radio, you take that over on Tuesdays from noon to 1. What's up tomorrow?
SPEAKER 17 :
We're going to have your friend and mine, Dave Hart, on there. He's going to be talking about how to save money on your roof.
SPEAKER 18 :
Awesome. As always, Kurt, appreciate you very much. Thanks, John. All right, man, have a great night. And again, Kurt Rogers, Affordable Interest Mortgage, 720-895-0500.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Raj Tolshan joining us now from Lone Mantra. Raj, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Good. Thanks, John. Thank you for having me on your show.
SPEAKER 18 :
I appreciate it. And as a small business owner myself, I think one of the things that most of us talking about me are looking at is, OK, with Trump, new administration, all of that, what kind of impact is he going to have on small business when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 05 :
So, John, look, we are very excited. I mean, truly speaking, right now, last week was inauguration, and as you know, inauguration is a time of celebration. That's right. And look, the first 100 days is essentially going to be very essential for any presidential administration, especially given that there's a lot of noise in the media, there's internal adjustments, as you know, a lot of confirmations are coming through. So having said that, We'll see how the new administration fulfills its promises made on the campaign trail and how this is going to impact small businesses going forward. I know there's the whole belief that the federal government is going to come in and is looking to grow and expand in the United States. It could mean good things, especially in the manufacturing sector. Look, it's been sluggish for decades. I mean, the priorities are ripe for a national business expansion. I agree. So it'll be interesting to see how this whole thing pays out.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're right, Raj, and I can't disagree with anything you just said. I think, personally speaking, this is one of the things that I think the The Fed, by the way, gets wrong. The guys that are in charge there, Jerome Powell himself, is they forget that when it comes to small and medium-sized businesses, the higher they keep the rates, in other words, the borrowing costs of those particular businesses and those sectors, what the Fed doesn't realize is We, as owners, we always pass costs along, Raj, no matter what anybody says or thinks. We have to pass those costs along. And if our borrowing costs, lines of credit, and so on are higher, then those costs get passed on, therefore, by the way, driving up inflation versus the opposite. And I at times wonder, does the Fed understand that, Raj?
SPEAKER 1 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, I can't speak for the Fed, right? I always say that no matter who's there, right, they're far superior to me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, maybe not. I might argue with you on that one. And the only reason I say that, Raj, is I did a deep dive the other day, and all the guys that are sitting on the Fed board right now, and the reality is there's a couple of them that have been in the private sector as far as, you know, VCs and big banks and things like that. But I hate to say this, not a one of them has ever written a paycheck.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Okay. Well, look, in true honesty, I think you're 100% right, right? As rates go down, capital will become cheaper and easier to access. Correct. So we believe that interest rates will continue to go down in 2025. I mean, we've lived through one of the highest... rate cycle in decades.
SPEAKER 18 :
And really quick, Raj, to the point where, and I think you guys watch and track this, I mean, to the point where it does slow down the money flow, the lending, if you would. And part of that, and I don't want to get into all the details, but when banks are hanging on to even bonds that are at a lower rate where they can't get those off their books, they can't free that money up to loan to folks like myself and others that are that are small business, medium-sized business owners, Raj, at the end of the day, that affects how much money is in the marketplace, does it not?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, absolutely. And that's the reason we... Look, in all honesty, I genuinely believe that this year we'll see some serious interest rate cuts. Last year, we got our one point shaved. And I believe that this year we'll see about, if not, I believe there'll be four cuts, 25 basis points each, and maybe another 25 do appease great expectations. So I... Personally speaking, if rates come down even close to where we were in May of 2019 or so, I think it will be good for small businesses. And look, anytime, it's in the business. You're a small business owner. I am a small business owner. It's in our DNA, right? We have extra cash in the business. We are going to invest that in the business. We're going to invest in technology. We're going to buy machinery. And overall, it's going to help the economy. So I can't see a reason to keep the rates where they are.
SPEAKER 18 :
You and I are, I mean, we think very much alike. One thing, too, that I'm anxious to see what the Trump administration does is the beneficial ownership registration nonsense that was kind of going on and off, on and off, all through the end of the year. At this point, it's still off, and I really hope this administration just takes it off the table altogether. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, in full disclosure, right, so you're talking about FinCEN, right, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, which is essentially a government agency, and they've been tasked to monitor to prevent financial crimes such as money laundering and terrorism finance. So look, I built Lone Mantra based on the values that financial, on everything about financial security and data privacy. However, in full disclosure, I registered my company on the FinCEN website. And honestly speaking, John, it was super easy. It is. My take on it was, look, help wherever you can. There are certain fights you fight. Truly speaking, if we are worried about our personal information, I guarantee you, Amazon has more information on my business than, for instance.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think for a lot of us, it's more, me included, Raj, it's more of a principal thing than it is anything. I get it. It's a 10-minute deal. It doesn't take a long time to register. My point, though, is for the majority – how should I say this? For the majority of honest business owners, they've registered with their secretary of state, running them down, figuring out who actually is owner of that company is not a big deal. And the reality, Raj, is this is trying to go after the folks that launder money and do things that, by the way, I'm not even sure how all that works because my mind doesn't think like a thief, so I don't think that way. So my point, though, at the end of the day is if there's a way to get around stuff, no offense, Raj, it's not you and I that they need to go after anyways. Those are the guys that are going to figure out a way around it anyways.
SPEAKER 05 :
I hope not. Look, we do a lot of paperwork, and I hope this paperwork, this should be it. I think they did their share, we do our share, and hopefully money laundering and terrorism financing is a huge deal in any country in the world. So I'm hoping and praying that this would be the last of it.
SPEAKER 18 :
I hope you're good. Okay, really quick, talk to us a little bit about Loan Mantra. What do you guys do? What's your target customer? What can you do to help some of those business owners that are out there listening right now?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, absolutely. Look, Loan Mantra is a financial technology company. I started the company back in 2013. We help small business connect to capital. I mean, people, look, as a small business owner, we just talked about, hey, access to capital being one of the toughest things. We help. What somebody can do is they can go on loanmantra.com. There's a resource page. There's a lot of information that will give, you know, tell them, no, Jesus. tell small business owners which way to go, and then they can complete an application. Most of the times, business owners cannot connect with the lending institution because they do not speak the same language. What we have done is we have basically made that process simple. We've built and used technology, AI, to complete the whole application. And make it simpler to go to a lending institution and be like, this is what I do. This is what my business says. Give me a loan that I deserve.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know what? And I coach other businesses, Raj, and I will tell you everything you just said. And those listening that are business owners know exactly what you just said. I cannot disagree with anything that you're saying. It is one of the biggest challenges for a lot of small business owners is not only finding who out there that would even be somebody to talk to when it comes to capital, but then filling out all of the, you know, I hate to call it red tape, but all the forms, all the things necessary to make that happen, Raj, that can become, depending upon who you are and your financial wherewithal, that can be very burdensome. You guys basically are taking that out of the loop.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we basically, honestly simplified the equation. I'll give you a great example. We just put in some AI tools in there. Worst day to talk about AI, by the way, given everything that's going in the market. But we literally, we added an AI tool with an individual, a business owner. Business owners are phenomenal at what they do. Sometimes getting that thought across is one of the toughest things they do. So what we did was we created, hey, go and put in a couple of lines of work and let AI rewrite that sentence for you. Then, you know what? Certain times I do not know when my documents will be ready. I don't have the time to get my documents done right now. Guess what? That's where we have come and helped. We have said, hey, you know what, John? Go complete the application at your time. Put your kids to bed. Do all your work, everything, and then go put the application on Loan Mantra. And as you're completing the application, the system guides you through it. At the end of the day, it gives you a template of documents. It's all the questions that you've completed. It completes a credit memo for you. And it essentially creates a conversation between the small business owner and the small business lending institution because the communication is the toughest thing. And we've tried to make the entire process easier.
SPEAKER 18 :
Very good. I appreciate that. I will send customers your way, of course, because with what I do, I've got folks that are needing that on a routine basis, Raj. So I will definitely send folks your way. And those of you listening, it's loanmantra.com. Raj, I'm excited also for this year. I'm hopeful that things will change and really help small business owners. I believe, well, I know, we are the lifeblood of America, and all the help you can give small business does nothing more than help the economy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, God, absolutely. You're 100% right. Look, you're in Colorado, right? Yes. 99.5% of the businesses are small and medium-sized businesses in Colorado. I mean, overall, our economy, both nationally and locally, are made of incredibly resilient entrepreneurs. I deal with entrepreneurs. I can tell you some of the phenomenal stories. The guy who started with one small gas station working at a gas station and today owns multiple, or somebody who worked at a hotel, a bodega, and has been very successful. Mm-hmm. So I have 100% faith in small business owners, right? Small business owners know how to operate when inflation is high or even in a global pandemic. We know how to thrive. Look, at the end of it, I can speak for myself. We know that small business owners roll with the punches.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
All right, no guests for the rest of this show, so if you've got something on your mind you want to chat about, please give me a call, 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600, and we'd be happy to take your call, have a chat, which, by the way, could have been with anything we've talked about throughout the day. There is a bill that... Great intentions. Problem is with the environment we have down at our state capitol, I'm not sure this one's going to go anywhere. I get it. It raises awareness, and I'm not saying that we shouldn't be running this bill, but they're going to run a bill to repeal the cage-free egg law in Colorado. It's going to committee today, or went to committee today, I should say. This is from Barbara Kirkmeyer and Ryan Gonzalez. And again, I'm not against this. I'm not sure with the current climate – make sure I use the right words here – that we have down in our state capitol, this is going to go very far because we've got a bunch of knuckleheads down there on the Democrat side that frankly have no idea how our local state and our economy and things like that actually work. Keep in mind in our current law, all eggs sold in Colorado – must come from a cage-free facility. And all egg producers in Colorado housing more than 3,000 egg-laying hens will need to comply with the cage-free requirements. One of the requirements is to give each chicken 144 square inches. Now, I learned a lot about... chickens and the processing of and the egg laying and all of that from several good friends of mine, some of them in the farming world or the ranching world, I guess you could say. And reality is, even in facilities whereby they leave the doors open so the chickens have freedom to roam inside the building and even have a door to go outside, reality is most don't. The chickens don't. If they're being fed and they're warm and all of their quote-unquote friends are inside, they typically don't leave anyways. Now, I'm not saying that we should be cruel to any kind of animals, and I'm all for making sure that we're not, and that's on any level, by the way, no matter what we're eating as far as food goes. But I also know that in a lot of cases— Especially hens that lay eggs, they don't go a long way anyways. Even some of you that have chickens that you raise at home and you have your own eggs, which a lot of people do nowadays, which is an option. By the way, if you want cheaper eggs, then raise your own chickens and get your eggs that way. And a lot of people do. But even then, most of them don't go very far. You know, it's like any other type of domestic animal. They know where they're fed. They know where they're cared for. They're not dumb. They know all that end of things, and they just don't go super far anyways. So the bill to repeal the law points out several statistics. The Colorado Egg Producers Association estimates that the cost of producing cage-free eggs is roughly 16% to 18% higher than then the cost of production in a caged environment due to the amount of labor, the cost of reconstructing hen houses and so on, and, by the way, the potential spread of illness in the larger environment. They can actually control things better in a smaller environment than they can the larger environment. The Bureau of Labor Statistics show egg prices increased 39%, so basically 40%, between September of 23 and September of 24. That's the largest increase of any food tract. Almost 50% higher. Almost. That's a lot, by the way. And you see all sorts of complaints, I do at least, all over social media about the price of eggs and how costly they are. In fact, there are even restaurants and people that use a lot of eggs that will go to Costco or other places and buy flats of eggs, cases of eggs at a time, trying to stay ahead of this. Since July of 2022, the average national cost of a dozen eggs rose 75% from $1.92 to to 337 in October of 24 with a peak of 482 in January of 23. So as of December 2024, a dozen large white eggs at a grocery store is $5.49. Despite the stat provided by the Colorado Egg Producers Association on the cost of going cage-free, Bill Skibbe, the executive director of the organization that's against the proposed bill, he wanted to make it clear that high price of eggs is tied to bird flu. That's not totally true, by the way, because we saw prices going up long before any of this bird flu, you know, quote-unquote scare came along. So, bottom line... This is something that I would be in favor of repealing this bill. But I will tell you that I will be shocked if this thing even makes it out of committee. Joe, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, one other thing about the transmission of bird flu. You rarely see it in caged bird. Right. Because bird flu is transmitted by the droppings of wild birds. So when your chickens are out in a caged enclosure and the wild birds sit on top of the wire. and they poop and it falls down, that's how your captive chickens get infected from the wild birds. So if they're kept in a barn and no wild birds can fly into your barn, they're not going to get bird flu.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good point. In terms of cruelty to animals, when you do, you know, you wind up killing 100,000 chickens.
SPEAKER 18 :
When you have something like the bird flu come through, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. If you even get, you know, one infected chicken... you wind up killing 100,000 chickens over the next three days. So which is more humane, to have birds a little bit more confined in an enclosed egg-length facility or to wind up killing 100,000 birds over the next three days? Which is more humane?
SPEAKER 18 :
Which in those cases, too, Joe, if I'm not mistaken, nothing can be done with – they're just destroyed. There's nothing they can do with those chickens, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they're not processed.
SPEAKER 18 :
They're done, right? You can't process them. You can't eat them. They're not going to market. They're just destroyed, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Just absolutely correct, John. And by the way, the egg-laying life of a chicken is about three years. And after three years, it becomes an oven roaster after three years.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. And again, there's so much controversy over this, Joe, that you try to take this and just take a rational approach. And I understand there's a lot of folks out there that love growing their own chickens, having their own eggs and so on. And some people have the ability to do so. And you know what? More power to them. Knock your socks off if that's what you want to do. Fine. I personally, Joe... do not have time to mess around with, you know, chickens and coops and getting the eggs and dinking around with getting them in and out at night. And yes, I know there's automated doors and so on, but at the end of the day, Joe, I'm one of those where, you know, until the day comes where I have to do it, and if I did, I would, but I'm not, and I won't at this point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And you and me both, and John, my grandmother, when I used to work in my grandpa's cattle ranch in the summers, they had chickens, and they had a little little 8x8 block house with a little tiny opening about the size of a dog door, but there was no flap run. It was just open, and that's where the chickens would go at night to roost. During the day, John, they were free to come and go. Most of the time, they were inside the little— They didn't.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Unless it's super hot or something, Joe, they just don't, do they?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You'd look for the chickens. Where were they? Well, you'd open the door to this little—it was a little cinder block, maybe 8x8 with a sloped tar paper roof on it, They were free to come and go. Occasionally, it seemed that they'd come out in the morning and whatnot, but they were generally in that little eight-by-eight cinder block house.
SPEAKER 18 :
By the way, Joe, I've watched some of this with my own two eyes at certain either family members' homes that had chicken coops or on farms and things along those lines. And no, I wasn't raised on a farm, although I was raised in the country and around a lot of the things that we're talking about right now, as I know you were as well, Joe. And the reality is... Furthermore, I don't want to get off on a tangent here, Joe, but the majority of people don't even understand the difference between one versus the other, to the point, Joe, where most people don't even know where colored eggs come from. And I'm not exaggerating, am I?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're not, John. You're not.
SPEAKER 18 :
So we've yet got those same individuals making decisions on how the rest of us are going to eat.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and the same thing, John, it applies to so many things in the state legislature. You've got people who know nothing about chickens making laws about chickens. You've got people who know nothing about guns making laws about guns. By the way, if you get a chance, I sent you a copy of a Colorado editorial about if you want people to stop buying guns.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yeah. And sorry, I try to read those, but if you don't have a subscription and if I read too many of them, then they don't let me. But I got the gist of it. I mean, I read enough of it and the preliminary stuff where I got the gist of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And for those who haven't seen it, I forget which Colorado newspaper it's from, and by the way, two of the biggest groups that are buying guns these days are African Americans and single women. And the editorial goes on, and he cites reliable statistics, and he says, why do you think African Americans and single women are buying guns are the biggest, showing the biggest increase? It's because crime is getting out of control. So if you want people to stop buying guns, That's where he goes on to say, so if you want people to stop buying so many guns, do something about the things that are making them fearful, which is that they now believe that you can't keep them safe. So you know what?
SPEAKER 18 :
If you want to cut back on that, make them at least feel safe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Make them feel safe, and maybe single women and African Americans won't be buying so many guns. And he goes on to say, and by the way, the proposed ban on semi-automatic pistols, which would leave you only with revolvers, by the way, wouldn't affect people like you and me who already own them. It would affect people who, disadvantaged groups, who think they need one or want one, because if that law banning semi-automatic pistols goes into effect, I think the proposed effective date would be July. After July, if you're a single woman or an African American who wants to buy a gun for self-protection, you wouldn't be able to buy a semi-automatic pistol in the state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep, yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wouldn't bother you, wouldn't bother me.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and the downside, Joe, is to your point a moment ago, that it penalizes the people that need it the most, is what I should say.
SPEAKER 07 :
That need it the most. Always does, John.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, because, again, you and I, I mean, I don't want it to pass because at the end of the day, I want people to have their freedoms. I also don't want it to pass because there'll be a huge fight over it because it's unconstitutional what they're doing. And Colorado, in the end, will lose. And all we will do as taxpayers is spend a gob of taxpayer money trying to defend something that, frankly, is unconstitutional in the first place. But that doesn't keep the left from doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and, John, I'm grateful. I actually did a little analysis yesterday. You know, when I first moved to New Jersey, you couldn't get a concealed carry permit, and then the Bruin decision came out of the Supreme Court that told the states, hey, cut it out, you have to issue concealed carry permits. Well, I added up all the hoops I had to jump through to get a concealed carry permit. You know what it cost me to get a concealed carry permit in New Jersey?
SPEAKER 18 :
I can't remember what you told me, but it's not cheap.
SPEAKER 1 :
$600.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, not cheap. Including, by the way— Which, by the way, for a lot of people, that's above the price of entry.
SPEAKER 07 :
And not only that, and if you don't own a car, John, and here's a catch-22. Well, first of all, you have to go to these out of the – you don't get fingerprinted at the police station. You have to go to some third-party fingerprint thing. And then you have to go to a designated authorized shooting range. And if you don't own a car, you can't take your gun. There's a shooting proficiency test you have to take. Well, but if you don't own a car – You can't take your gun on public transportation in New Jersey, so it's a catch-22.
SPEAKER 18 :
So in other words, again, those that need it most can't.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Because they're penalized. So let's assume you scrape together the $300 or $400 to buy the gun. Well, now you're going to need another $600 to pay for the fingerprinting and the background checks and then the shooting proficiency test, which is $150. But then how do you get to the shooting range that might be 40, 50, 60 miles away from your house – If you don't have a car and you can't take your gun on public transportation, how do you get there?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can't.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, you can't. So you're not going to have one.
SPEAKER 07 :
So it's basically in the state of New Jersey, we don't want poor people to own guns.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and ultimately, and as you know, Joe, it's always a progression. That's why they're called progressives because they start there and their end goal is something completely different, which, by the way, is to take yours away.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. It's the camel's nose under the flap of the tent. Let's get started. The whole camel's in the tent. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 18 :
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Back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. John and Cheyenne, you're next. Go ahead, sir.
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Well, I hope those... The egg law passes to get rid of it, and the gun law fails. But from a Wyoming resident, I hope the reverse, because then that'll be just more things that people will be coming to Wyoming to buy. Guns.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're not wrong. No, no, you're not wrong, John. And that's, I mean, the whole thing is just, you're right, it forces people to do things out of state.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I drive through, you know, we've got two Walmarts in Cheyenne, and the There's a lot of Colorado plates in there if you pull in there. A lot more than you would expect.
SPEAKER 18 :
Not surprising. There's probably, truth be told, John, and I don't know this to be a fact, but it wouldn't shock me. There's probably a black market on eggs from people that drive up there, then come back and sell to their neighbors and make a profit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I think the last time I bought eggs two weeks ago or something, I got 18 large eggs for $4.99. That's pretty cheap. Whatever that was. Yeah, that was at the Walmart.
SPEAKER 18 :
And that's back to old prices of the high twos for a dozen, because you bought a dozen and a half. So, yeah, I mean, you're about $3 or so a dozen, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, $3 and something like that. Yeah, $3 and some change, roughly.
SPEAKER 18 :
By the way, I far cry from $7, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you guys are paying, what, $7?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, somebody texted in a minute ago, it's like $7.98 a dozen or so.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I saw pictures on X. of people down around the Denver area, Westminster, where there's no eggs.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, thank you. You took the words out of my mouth. There's other places where if you don't get there at the right time, you may not have any, period. There is none to buy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, and the egg safe. But it's other things, too. I mean, you know, you ran Magpul out of Colorado, and they've been here now 10 years. Driving. And they just put it. Yeah, they put out a news release that it's the best thing we ever did for our company to move because we don't have income tax on businesses either.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so they're happy. That was a great move on their part.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and from what I understand, I don't know if it's true, this is on the rumor mill, that he told all his employees when they moved, you have to move to Wyoming because I will not pay you. any state taxes to colorado after we're done i had heard the same thing i don't think that's i don't think you're far off on that john i think that was kind of the mandate you know if you if you want to stay fine you know don't feel obligated you don't have to go with us but if you do you are yeah because he yeah he he was saying that you know if you live in colorado and work in wyoming he still has to withhold colorado state income tax and he didn't want nothing to do with your state right i can't blame him that's that's That's a shame, though, because it's such a beautiful state. I mean, other than the Boulder to Denver corridor, and even that's kind of pretty. I was up at Steamboat two weeks ago. Gosh, what a beautiful place to just go and enjoy.
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I know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yet, you know, we were staying in a condo, and we made sure we brought our eggs and everything with us so we didn't have to go to the grocery store there.
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for things that we were going to need just for like breakfast and stuff before we headed out i mean i mean think about anything that's something we haven't even talked about nor has it probably been talked about down at the capitol but you take some of those towns that are literally you know you take burlington versus goodland so you go to buy eggs in burlington they're going to be three times higher than that across the line over in goodland kansas i mean john how stupid
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, you can look at it. Yeah, from Fort Collins to Cheyenne is a 45-minute drive.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. Well, Goodland, Kansas, I mean, you're talking, what, 20 minutes or so, one to the other?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and what about on the other side?
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What is it, Grand Junction to the next town in Utah? Yeah, I mean, you can go to all of the different, you know, outer border areas of the state and find similar situations.
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Oh, yeah, that's why I'm saying that. I mean, you guys... allowing the people to pass these laws because they think it's good, and then it hurts them. And then that idiot in CD6... you know who I'm talking about, comes out and says, why isn't Trump doing something about the price of eggs in Colorado?
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What an idiot.
SPEAKER 08 :
Did you see that post?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I mean, again, what an idiot. I mean, why? He's going to change our, you know, we like state rights. Last I checked, we still believe in state rights. Are you going to have Trump come in with some sort of a federal mandate and overrule your cage-free law? No, that's not going to happen. You guys did that.
SPEAKER 08 :
He wouldn't. Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, he wouldn't anyway. It's just to teach a lesson. He's not going to do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. He's going to say you passed laws. And then that other idiot, Tlaib, from Michigan, she was yelling about the same thing because Michigan passed the same law you guys did.
SPEAKER 18 :
She is one of those, John, that honestly doesn't have the brains God gave an ant.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, she's probably not as stupid as we think, but she's just so stuck in her ways and so brainwashed that she can't think outside the box.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, which in my opinion means she's not very bright. If you can't think for yourself and you can't think out of the box and you're so brainwashed that you only think one way, you're a small brain person, John. I'm sorry. I don't know any other way to say it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, I agree. She's just, that whole group of clueless, they're just clueless.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's why you call them the squad, because they're all dumb as rocks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Between all of them, I don't think their IQ adds up to 100.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, unfortunately, and I don't want to get off on a tangent, because I know we're getting tight on time here to the break, John, but the reality is most politicians, you guys have heard me talk about this, and I mean this sincerely, this includes both sides of the aisle, most politicians aren't real bright.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and the ones that are are the ones that are attacked the most.
SPEAKER 18 :
Because they actually do things because they have a brain to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, you have a good right to man.
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Appreciate you, John, very much. And I know I know I sound hard on politicians at times, but folks, again, remember that I have a unique opportunity to not only rub elbows with some of these individuals, but ask hard questions at hard times about different things they may be doing during their campaign or even after when they're trying to pass a bill or do different things along those lines and so on. So I have a unique opportunity to talk to some of these people and in a way that, frankly, most people don't get the opportunity to talk about. And even some of you that are listening, when you call your representative or your congressman or whatever, you're likely to get a staff or you're likely not to talk to them. And if you do, it's going to be very limited in time and talking about a particular subject, not a broad spectrum of subjects. So trust me when I say this. The majority, and I mean the majority. There are a few exceptions, and I've named some of those in the past. But the majority of politicians, local, state, national, are literally not very bright. They knew how to get elected. They knew the right people. They knew maybe how to fundraise or had the right people around them to even do so. In some cases, they were sort of thrown in even to the race by who knows who. And by God's grace, got elected. But frankly, at the end of the day, not bright by any means. And it pains me to say that because the folks that are running things should be the best and the brightest. Unfortunately, politics doesn't typically generate that. It really does generate a lot of lemmings that know the right speak, that know the right things to say, maybe even know the right things to do according to what they're doing for their office. But they're definitely not the brightest. And I'm sorry, I've met a lot of these people, like I say, out in public, you get to interview them and so on. And I even have conversations after the interview is over one on one. And I'll just tell you straight up, they're not that bright. That's the sad part of all of this. In this particular law we have in Colorado about the cage free nonsense with eggs is definitely case in point. Veteran windows and doors, 35% off windows, 45% off doors, free labor to install. Talk to Dave today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, that's it for today. I did not get to all of my topics today, so I'll put some of those into tomorrow. Andy, of course, will be with me. We've got a lot of things to discuss, a couple of interviews as well. But most of all, guys, enjoy your night. Stay safe. Stay up on all the things that we're talking about. And, again, most of all, if you've got time tomorrow to go down and help, potentially defeat one of the current gun bills. It literally is a way of taking away a lot of guns here in Colorado. Please do so. And that's it for tonight, guys. Have a great evening. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So I'm trying to understand. So this is an NBC2 local affiliate out there in Florida. Cape Coral man was arrested after he claimed that his house was poisoned and attempted to break into another house. How do you poison a house? The victim was seen trying to open a lock sliding door on the back of the home. The victim said he confronted the guy, told him that he was armed. And that's when the intruder ran away from the scene before officers arrived. The guy, Antonio Cruz Aparicio, he was attempting to gain entry into a home. He was yelling for help, saying his house was poisoned. They actually had a tase to get him under control. And they found his wallet at a separate residence. So He got charged a couple charges, burglary, resisting with violence. Yeah, that's that's kind of freaky. Just I didn't even I mean, obviously, they probably did a mental health check on him. This let's see. Oh, I got a couple of other ones. This is a Florida woman was arrested after she accidentally texted a sheriff's department instead of her drug dealer. That can happen, I'm sure, to people like Octavia Wells, 41 years old. She sent a text message trying to get fentanyl before leaving town. Apparently, though, she accidentally texted a narcotics investigator within the sheriff's office. And oh, boy, the investigator adeptly engaged her in conversation masquerading as her drug dealer arranged to meet with her. She went to the gas station thinking she was meeting her drug dealer, and instead she was met with a team of investigators, and she was taken into custody because they charged with a whole bunch of stuff. And I don't know if buying with the intent to distribute was part of it, but I don't know. This, let's see, there's a Lee County man that got in trouble for slashing tires following a road rage incident. 37-year-old Matthew Tobler. He was slashing tires of a vehicle, according to Lee County Sheriff's Office. And he was making obscene gestures, hand gestures at nearby motorists. And when a victim said that he... Why would you approach the vehicle? There was an incident. A victim approached Tobler's vehicle. He got out of the car, began threatening him with a knife, and then started slashing his tires before leaving the scene. So they were able to take... I mean, what the hell is wrong with... What is... I'm going to tell you what people can't drive. That is for sure. I've got some stories. I actually have a story that happened to me over Christmas that I'll share when I'm able to share it. But yeah, people cannot drive. And let's see. And Saudi Arabia is pressing a Floridian. Well, a man in Florida to give up his U.S. citizenship over critical tweets. It's a Florida retiree. He made social media posts critical of the crown prince. And apparently Saudi Arabia doesn't have the same kind of, you know, speech. Interesting. Our partners are bringing you the program. It's our friends over at Caltech. If you have not checked out the new five seven that they came out with, you got to. It's the latest and greatest from Caltech. And they've changed concealed carry in 95. Now they've got the PR57 rotary barrel pistol. It's chambered in 5.7. They're just redefining the game. It's the lightest, literally the lightest 5.7 I've ever held in my ever-loving life. It's 40% lighter than the next lightest 5.7. It has a top-loading design, so it replaces traditional magazines with literal stripper clips. That gives it a slimmer carry profile, and you've also got a 20-plus-1 capacity. It's kind of insane and awesome. all at the same time. It's built to perform when it matters, and it's engineered for simplicity and reliability. Quickest and easiest field strip that you can get. And MSRP is legit $399. It's only $399. That's insane. I mean, yeah, you can get it. Go get it. It's the PR57, the new one from Kel-Tec. Kel-Tecweapons.com. That's where you can go to learn more. K-E-L-T-E-C-weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you. So the Oscars, they're in a bit of a pickle. As it were, Cain, have you heard? I don't know why I have to use that accent, but it makes it better. So there's a Spanish language film I haven't watched called Amelia Perez. And the actor who stars in it is a dude. Carla Sofia Gascon. It's ma'am. And Gascon, the movie has gotten 13 nominations. And this guy got nominated for an Oscar. Oh, he did. He did. Mr. Carla got nominated for an Oscar. Oh, but there's a catch. Mr. Carla got nominated for Best Actress Oscar. She sounds hideous.
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Well, she's a guy, so... Yeah.
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Best... Actress Oscar. Yeah. And that was after the 2020 change in policy when the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences, they wanted inclusion and all this stuff. And you have to have Academy inclusion standards and things like that. So Amelia Perez has 13 nominations. And one of those is a dude who's up for best actress. And GLAAD was not happy. They said that it is a step backwards for trans representation. They're mad because they said that the representations in Emilio Perez, I'm reading their statement, are considered tropes in the portrayal of the trans community. But if you're trans, you're already playing to a trope. You're a living trope. I mean, I'm not... If you want to do what you want to do on your own time, that's fine. But don't gaslight me. You're a trope. You are patterning your identity after stereotypical characteristics. And in most cases, they are greatly exaggerated to a caricature effect. That's a trope. You embody trope in order to be trans. And so... So GLAAD was saying that they were upset with it. The alphabet... So one of the memes that's going around... Was it the Simpsons? I can't remember if it was the Simpsons. So they have, there's this gif where everybody puts their hands in a circle, you know, and then somebody has a peg in the center and somebody else's hand scoots the stick away. So it's all, that's the LGB hands and then the T comes in there and all the LGBs brush the T away. That's the, that's the, there's a reason for that because they're livid. So the Academy is like patting itself on the back for this. And now you got a dude who is up for best actress. I kind of hope he wins just because they all deserve it. I hope the women deserve to be robbed for even going along with us. So that's fine. Now, here's the other thing. And Kane noted this. That Mr. Carla milkshake ducked himself, didn't he? because Mr. Carla, I'm pulling this up, got really mad at the people in the gay and trans community that were criticizing his either performance in the film or his nomination for best actress. And the man known as Mr. Carla went off and I can't even read the statement. uh yeah it was basically go do something unflattering to yourself you unflattering unflatterer that's yeah that's that's the extent of it and apparently used they got mad because he used slurs what can you if you're trans can you get in trouble for using a trans slur like if you're trans can you say tranny If you're a mechanic, can you say tranny? You know, talking about the same. So this, I want to see this just, I hope this explodes. I would watch the Oscars for that. Just to watch them all fight over that little gold statue, the golden calf, as it were. I'd watch the Oscars for that. Would you? Just to watch them melt down over clearly a dude. That dude looks like that chick on TikTok who runs down Republican women's appearances. Looks just like her. face frozen baboon ass lips. I mean, it just boom right there. Anyway, you're right. I hate everything. So just saying, I want to see them completely devolve into a slap fight at that. Achieving vibrant, youthful skin doesn't have to be complicated. With the power of Native Path Collagen, you can nourish your body from within and enhance not just your skin, but also your hair, your nails. By incorporating Native Path Collagen into your daily routine, you can promote a plump, radiant complexion, reduce signs of aging, and boost your overall vitality, all without any unnecessary fillers or additives. Native Path collagen has only type one and three collagen, the most important types, making up 90% of your body's collagen. No artificial sweeteners, just pure third-party tested goodness. It's completely flavorless, so you can just add it to about anything, your coffee, your smoothies, oatmeal, or whatever you want. And the best part is that Native Path's peptides formula makes it more bioavailable so it means your body will absorb it easily start your journey to healthier skin today get native path.com slash dana and stock up on native path collagen and save up to an incredible 45 off plus free shipping every order includes a 365 day money back guarantee don't miss out head to get native path.com slash dana and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five Oh, let's see here. All right. First up, this intoxicated patron. who is outside of an adult gentleman's place, really gentleman, bit a police officer's thumb, got super in trouble. He doesn't look sad about it. He's from Pennsylvania. Intoxicated man charged with felony assault. He like bit the whole thumb off. How do you, what kind of jaws and teeth do you have that you can just chomp like that? That's actually kind of terrifying. Think about it.
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Did it happen when he got tased?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
That would make sense.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, they were trying to get him in a cruiser. He placed his head through the sliding plexiglass partition and began shouting. And then he bit the officer's thumb, leaned all his body weight into the back rear seat, causing more pain. Yeah, they had to taser him a ton, apparently, to get him to release. And then he had to go to the hospital and get part of it reattached. That's terrifying. Hey, let's see. This, ooh, the ultimate selfie has claimed 480 lives. I don't know why people do it. Let them do it. It's like self-cleaning ovens. I'm not kidding. The small Japanese city of Otaru, they're hiring security guards to manage tourists because tourists are like falling off bridges and being stupid. But there's also the Grand Canyon. Apparently that's the world's deadliest selfie spot. People literally fall off the rocks into the canyon all the damn time. I did not know it was so prevalent. They said that apparently between 2008 and 2021 alone, almost 400 people And selfie accidents have fallen like to their deaths. Really.
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Somebody's campaign coffers really are struggling right now. So she going to keep saying trans, trans, trans so that people will feel threatened. And child, listen, I want y'all to tell me whether or not. Do not call me a child.
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I am no child.
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Don't even start.
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I'm a grown woman. I'm 47 years old.
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I have broken more glass ceilings than you have. I am reclaiming my time. You will not do that. I am not a child. I am reclaiming my time.
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If you want to take it outside.
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Mr. Chairman, it could mean.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, look, I'm not necessarily, I would say, a fangirl of Nancy Mays. But I'm not going to lie. First off, don't sit here and slay Mace for that. Every single time somebody is acting a fool, every single time we got videos, somebody being a fool, and one of these here in the chamber like this, Jasmine Crockett, who's from Dallas, is always one of them. Always one of them. Every damn time. It is always her. And that's who it was. It was Jasmine Crockett, and it was Nancy Mace. Welcome back to the program. Bottom of this third hour. And she's like, child, you know, whatever. And then she has the audacity. She's the victim, don't you know? Jasmine, I was pulling up this tweet. What did she say? Oh, she goes, if you want to see the difference between House stems and House GFA, watch this. Today, I introduced an amendment to reinstate the Oversight Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties. Oh, wait, sidebar. Oh, now you want oversight? And then she goes, my Republican colleague threatened to physically fight me about that. Oh, my gosh. Well, first off, you you were condescending to her. And if because Jasmine Crockett behaved like a condescending brat is why. And when you were speaking to her, she thinks that this makes her look good. And I just feel like, you know, people are tired of it. They just I think it's like Mace and others were just tired of it. Somebody said we can take it outside. Now, she didn't say she's going to fight her. She just said we can, you know, like talk about it outside, maybe, you Or it was cash me outside, how about now? I mean, maybe, you know, was, could be. But I don't know. I've got questions. Namely, why is all of her hair on one side of her head? But that's number one. But number two, why does she always do this? They always instigate. And then when they get it back, they act like victims. Now, some people are saying, well, this is... You know, so unbecoming of these representatives, so unbecoming of them. Wait, this is where I it is not unbecoming. If you if you put some noise to bed, that's not unbecoming to finally just I get aggravated about that because sometimes I stay real quiet, even in the face of, you know, unrelenting nonsense. And then finally, when I do strike back because I'm always harsh. Then the people, oh, that's so mean. Well, you should have been saying something when these people were trying to instigate. So I don't know. I don't really think Mace is in the wrong here, do you, Cain? No. I don't think she's in the wrong at all. Why are some of them right clutching their pearls? I mean, for some of the stuff, like when she wore the letter A on her sweater, I was like, jeez, did you wear that because it's tight? Come on. On this, she's not in the wrong. No. I particularly love the giant cross earrings. I felt like they added some pizzazz to the whole scene. You know what I'm saying? I got some too, but they would get caught in my turtleneck today, which I'm going to wear in perpetuity right now until it stops being freezing.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can't fight in those earrings.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, you can. You take them out.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't recommend. Oh, well, there it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
Son, you take them out. Don't you call me son. I'm a grown man. Do you want to just take this outside? Oh, my gosh. Child. I would have. I don't know if I would have said what May said. I would have been like, OK, listen up, fetus. I don't maybe just like throwing it back in that way. I don't know if I would have been like, let's go outside. That was like her first response. Oh, yeah. Let's go outside. Man, her and Crockett just Crockett never stops ever. She's from Dallas. I forget who she replaced. Somebody worthless. I can't remember. So that was, I saw that. I'm like, yeah, she's really, Mesa really isn't in the wrong here. Not really.
SPEAKER 02 :
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. DLash on Twitter, on X, DanaLashRadio as well. If you want to stay connected to her, that's one of the best ways to do it. All right, let me play this first, especially since in the intro there, Dana, as she's great at doing, talks about the ridiculousness of our taxes and how much theft happens all the time. And this deep dive into U.S. aid. It's incredible. But before we go there, let's play some audio. Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, telling us exactly what Trump wants to do with your taxes. Reduce them. Reduce the crap out of them. And the way they do that is they get rid of excess government spending. But here it is.
SPEAKER 27 :
So these are the tax priorities of the Trump administration that the president has laid out for members in that meeting today. Bring it! No tax on tips, which is obviously a very public campaign promise that the president made. No tax on seniors' social security.
SPEAKER 23 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 27 :
No tax on overtime pay. Awesome. Renewing President Trump's 2017 middle class tax cuts. Again, these are the president's priorities. Adjusting the salt cap. Eliminate all the special tax breaks for billionaire sports team owners. Close the carried interest tax deduction loophole. Tax cuts for Made in America products. Rock on.
SPEAKER 23 :
Especially the Made in America products thing. We're trying to create more things here, which would be good for us. And if tariffs ever became a reality in a lot of places and not just a negotiating threat, then darn it, it would be even better if we were creating a lot of things right here at home. But a lot of those priorities should be deeply popular with the American people. There should not be a lot of reason to think that people wouldn't love a lot of that happening. And yet the way in which so many in media or elsewhere talk about Trump is like he's reckless and crazy and everything's about to be horrible for us for some reason. Let's move on to more of what's so fascinating about the, you know, public campaigns against Trump, even just nominees. So Russell Voight was reelected to a position he held before the director of OMB. So that's the Office of Management and Budget. He was in this role from July of 2020 until January of 21, even though media would act as though this is the first time he's even grasping at this sort of power and he's going to abuse it and be horrible. My favorite version of this was probably the random Democrats just getting up and yelling during the vote on whether or not they would confirm Russell Voight as OMB. A couple pieces of audio. It's quiet audio. uh... in the background because they're not supposed to be yelling stuff out but you can hear democrats trying to argue instead of just vote yes or no which is what they were doing yesterday and i don't know what the president's a real twelfth debate is permitted during a vote the senator will suspend that mister kelly pursuant to a twelve no debate is permitted during a vote the senator will suspend you need to just vanity
SPEAKER 08 :
Mr. Kim.
SPEAKER 22 :
Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted during... They just kept going.
SPEAKER 23 :
Actually, Pocahontas got into this too. Elizabeth Warren.
SPEAKER 22 :
Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote. The senator will suspend.
SPEAKER 23 :
Just vote yes or no. You can say no if you want. We don't need the rest of this. How great would it be if in an argument with someone that you don't want to be in, where it's okay if you disagree, my opinion and yours are never going to match, but the other person doesn't understand that? And a lot of people in our society... seem not to understand that we're allowed to not agree on stuff. If you could just throw out pursuant to this rule, we're going to have to stop talking.
SPEAKER 22 :
Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote. The senator will suspend.
SPEAKER 23 :
I might try this the next time I'm in an argument with the loved one, maybe the missus, and see how that goes. And I imagine I'll be in a lot of trouble. Pursuant to Rule 12, no more arguing. We've reached the point where we're just going to agree to disagree. Now, who is Russ Voigt, by the way, is a question you might be asking yourself. As I said, he's someone who's already had the job that he's going to have again. Media describes him as the co-author of Project 2025, because they want to scare the crap out of Democrats, or at least Democratic voters, who seem way too easy to scare. I know they've probably always seemed that way, but now more than ever, the amount of fear taking over some individuals seems to be nuts. on almost any issue. You could barely say anything. Maybe just say the name Elon Musk and people will go crazy, it seems. But here is something that Russ Voigt said back when he sat down with Tucker Carlson, before he was actually re-put into the position he's now in again. And he was asked a simple question. If you do what you actually want to do, which is disrupt all of the egregious, ridiculous things conspiratorial spending uh whatever you want to call it going on the the um horrible things that happen within our government and people are shouted down how dare you say that because you can't possibly be true even though what we're learning about us aid spending demonstrates so much of this is true so many of the conspiracies that people thought wind up being facts But here's what he said he would actually do, especially if confronted with a resistance from that machine that doesn't want him to take away all their sweet, sweet cash, their sweet money. Here's how Russ Voigt will respond.
SPEAKER 14 :
But that's going to cause a lot of turmoil within these bureaucracies, and you've got to fight through it. And then they're going to overlay the aspect of, oh, my gosh, you guys are racist. And, you know, you don't care about us as people. You know, you're going to have to deal with that, too. Right. They are, you know, one of the arguments that they're using in the press against me right now, as they say, he he called for trauma within the bureaucracies. Yeah, I called for trauma within the bureaucracy. The bureaucracies hate the American people. Yes. They want to put a 77 year old and did a 77 year old Navy veteran in jail for 18 months for building four ponds on his ranch to fight wildfires. That's not the Department of Justice. That's the EPA.
SPEAKER 23 :
That's evil. That's horrible. And that's the point. And yes, cause trauma to the bureaucracies. And this is what's funny to me, I guess, at least a little bit. Most Americans agree with this part. They care about who tells them that something is broken or something is corrupted or something is wastefully spending our money at the very best. At the worst, it's doing much worse than just accidentally spending it wrong. But at the best, that's what's happening in a lot of these government places. And I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. Many Americans believe that's true. But when Elon Musk sets a certain set of people on U.S. aid to dive into all the ways that that money is getting reallocated and moved and spent in just horrible ways, all of a sudden people are flat out rejecting this idea, screaming about it. Probably the best case of this, although granted wasn't screaming, was Brandon Gill, a rising Republican out of Texas, talking to CNN's Pamela Brown. During the interview, and I cut out at least one of these, but there were three or four of these, after mentioning that the U.S. aid corruption goes very, very deep and dollars are being spent on ridiculous things in a bunch of other countries, including transgender programs well beyond the United States, CNN wanted to make sure that Brandon Gill knew, we're going to fact check you, buddy. How dare you? And so here's at least one of those mentions. But as I said, there were several of them. doing a fact check on what you said my producer is doing that right now but i i want to ask you something because i know i want to know and i want to see uh by the way brandon went on to say uh we're not sure if we're going to believe said fact check because you guys don't exactly have a great track record with that but the interview goes on several more minutes several more mentions of we're going to make sure you're telling the truth buddy and then eventually she admits the thing he said was accurate when the producers can't find a way to debunk it
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, what's unprecedented is spending our taxpayer dollars on left-wing partisan political projects all over the globe. That's what the American people are focused on. Yes. This is a result of this election. This is a result of President Trump getting a very clear mandate from the American people to get rid of this kind of nonsense from our federal government. And we're doing it more efficiently than it's ever been done before. And again, the fury that we're seeing from the other side of the aisle isn't about this waste. It's not about paying for left-wing activism on the other side of the globe. It's that it's being exposed finally. And that's what the American people want.
SPEAKER 23 :
By the way, absolutely yes. I want the receipts. I've always wanted the receipts. I hate the conversation. I'm going to play her admitting that she fact-checked and he was telling the truth in just a second. But I want to just say this. I have always told all of my friends who might look at me like I'm a little bit naive, not by telling them they're wrong, because if someone throws out a plausible conspiracy... You don't have to look at them and be like, no, that's not true. And the reason it's not true is because what? But you can ask them to prove the thing they just said with an amount of information that typically will probably be kept from us, hidden from us. So it became an impossible discussion. You can say, I believe this is happening. I have every logical reason to see all the different ways in which this corruption is happening over here. But I just can't prove it to you because, of course, the people in power refuse to give us those receipts. That's now changed. That was the most exciting thing, at least in my opinion, of Trump getting back into office a second time. And I would say this to people who hated Trump, who loved Trump, regardless of any of the reasons that you might at least say out loud, well, that wasn't the perfect way to do this. That wasn't the perfect way to handle that, whatever it might be. I would say that this version of Donald Trump, this version of President Trump is more motivated than ever to cut through all the crap, to put people in positions of power that will actually affect change and to out the corruption within the government more so than than eight years ago, more so than, you know, at any other time before a bullet was shot at his head. So it's incredible to see it actually happening. By the way, here is the fact check admission.
SPEAKER 03 :
Certainly want more transparency about everything. Right. About how taxpayer dollars are being spent and about what is happening within their federal government. I do want to note that that they have done gender activism in South Africa, gender based violence and promote women's empowerment. It's not possible, though, to verify the millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars being spent. But USAID would say I love that, too.
SPEAKER 23 :
We gave them a lot of money. We can't verify the exact amount they spent on this and the amount they spent on other stuff. By the way, Ukraine is even saying they've lost a bunch of the money we've sent them, which doesn't seem good. But they did do it. And honestly, we'll just move on. But she spent the entire interview assuming he had lied. Because that's the other thing. When you don't like the messenger, you reject the message and assume it's a lie. And when you find out it's true... Your brain still can't seem to handle that, as what happened on CNN with Pam Brown as she was interviewing a rising star in the Republican Party, as he's often described, Brandon Gill out of Texas. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 25 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 23 :
That's right. It's time for a quick five. My name is Craig Collins filling in for Dana. You can find her at D Lash or Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter. Let's fire some of these off. America is abandoning DEI. Actually, also, you saw the NCAA finally change its rule on transgender participation in women's sports. Meaning you're not allowed to participate if you're not biologically a woman. There seems to be some issues there, as obviously we've talked about for quite some time. What I think is really interesting about these headlines or these, you know, actual things happening, and some are because of executive action. Actually, both of these are probably mostly because of executive action. But it does seem that the companies, the organizations are accepting the idea that when Trump won the popular vote, there's a lot of Americans who don't agree with the craziness that's been going on for a certain number of years and the insane stuff being said. So that certainly has value. Actually, the NFL, one of the only holdouts. You are likely to see some DEI things during the NFL, you know, big Sunday Super Bowl that we have coming up. And that's just their own decision. But it'll be something that they resist. One of the most buzzed about, talked about commercials that you're going to see during Sunday is the Seal commercial where the singer actually looks like the animal, which is weird, and then sings a song that he's famous for singing with some of the lyrics changed. That's one of the more bizarre moments. And even some, I think, sharks that pop up at one point and Seal seems to be afraid he's going to be eaten. A weird commercial, but that'll be something you'll see during the Super Bowl Sunday events. Also, just other quick stories out there. There's a chocolate recall that has a high risk level, according to the FDA, for certain amounts of consumption could cause all kinds of harm, including death. Chocolate death is something that was trending on X on Twitter. I think People Magazine, People.com, which is what I'm probably supposed to call it now, were the ones to put this out there. The FDA warned that consumption could cause death, which is great. Yee Farms dark chocolate walnuts is one of the items that's out there to be careful about. So very helpful in that world for us. And then one last one for Quick Five. A fake dental assistant in Middletown is facing 36 months in prison because you're not allowed to do that kind of stuff if you're not actually licensed to do it. Shocked. when she found that out. No, I'm kidding. The woman in Pennsylvania is luckily going to be thrown behind bars for just impersonating dental assistants and performing functions without a license. I wonder if she did a good job or not. That's one thing I was curious about because I'd go back and probably have a lawsuit if she harmed me. But if she did okay as a dental assistant, I wonder if I'd care. I assume most people will care, but who knows? All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 23 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. DLash, DanaLashRadio on X on Twitter. How to stay connected. Secretary of State Marco Rubio deemed that only 294 U.S. aid staffers are actually necessary to run that world, to run that agency. How many do we have?
SPEAKER 1 :
14,000.
SPEAKER 23 :
So we would like to remove almost all of the people that are doing this job. 13,700 and change six and just have 294. That would be amazing. All of these things that you talk about doing, reducing taxes to the degree that maybe they don't exist at all, if tariffs are something that could actually fulfill that role, a part of it is just weeding out all the excess spending. So mainstream media's response... to groundbreaking story after groundbreaking story or just, you know, world-shaking admission of corruption over here, corruption over there from USAID, is to complain about the people that Elon Musk had look into this, including one guy that has a hilarious name, mostly because CNN had to say it on TV. Here we go.
SPEAKER 26 :
Yes. So this is a 19 year old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. He is now working at.
SPEAKER 23 :
I don't know what he's talking about, by the way. It might be a basket base. There might be all kinds of things that's in reference there.
SPEAKER 26 :
The Hest inside Doge. And we looked into his background. And so we found. You know, several notable things, Aaron.
SPEAKER 23 :
Please, CNN, out this guy who's one of the tech wizards that's figuring out how all the worms are hidden within USAID and the way that they fund over here, over there. Tell us how evil and terrible this person is.
SPEAKER 26 :
Which? is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name, Tesla.Sexy LLC, which he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old. Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, it controls web domains. It's horrible. And it's apparently a fan name for Tesla. The guy now works for Elon Musk. And again, even though he's 19, apparently he's really good at technology. So let's crap all over him. And then also mainstream media will remind you again and again and again that USA does some good stuff. They don't just do good things, as we're finding out, but some of the things they do are, in fact, good. And I love how mainstream media or legacy media or whatever you want to call it refuses to admit that we could still do good stuff and not all the rest of the things that are terrible. Joe Rogan. Brilliant interview with Brett Weinstein. They talked about several of these issues. At one point, Rogan ran through some of the excess spending, and this was just a pull-up on the internet of a short list, and deeper dives will be necessary. But here's some of the things that he mentions at the beginning of this interview that we're actually paying for via taxpayer dollars through USAID, and what legacy media would tell you is just the good that's happening around the world and nothing else.
SPEAKER 24 :
USAID, $20 million for Iraqi Sesame Street, $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes, $11 million to tell Vietnam to stop burning trash. By the way, $2 million for pottery classes? Those better be amazing classes. $27 million to give gift bags to illegals. $27 million. $330 million to help Afghanis grow crops. Crops. I wonder what those crops are. What's their biggest crop, Brett? It's going to be the poppy seeds for bagels, I'm thinking. Opium! There it is.
SPEAKER 23 :
three hundred million dollar two hundred million dollars uh on an unused afghani dam 250 million dollars on an unused afghani road how do you just throw away 250 million dollars by the way i'm aware of what you're thinking that it's all just corruption none of this money goes to the places it's said to go to and it all gets you know cleaned and filtered and sent back into government uh bank accounts and i'm not disagreeing with you on the likelihood of that But right now, even just the outing of the excuse spending, the no, we spent this over here, or we spent that, we wasted this $250 million to try to create something that inevitably failed. This is, at best again, wasteful spending. And at worst, something very different. And people like this young 19-year-old coder are diving in and finding where all these rabbit holes go and making mainstream media and the politicians think, very very mad there was one more moment with rogan and this was exceptional as far as identifying how things move into certain areas uh there's actually money going to george soros from our government he gives money back to them but there's uh you know a line item that mentions this they gave 27 million dollars to the george soros prosecutor fund
SPEAKER 24 :
So our own government is funding this left-wing lunatic who is hiring the most insane prosecutors who are letting people out of jail who commit violent crimes.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's exactly how this racket worked, is that the ability to tax the American public and then effectively get us to pay for being propagandized, for being surveilled,
SPEAKER 23 :
We're just being screwed. I don't know if there's an easier way to say it. I think that would be it. We're just getting hand and fist screwed on a daily basis from the federal government. And they know it. By the way, since George Soros gives a whole lot of money back to politicians, I don't even know why you write this check other than so that he can immediately hand it off to someone else. And again, I'll mention this other thing. And this will probably matter more and more as we get more of this information, because no matter what you think of Elon Musk, I don't even have to talk about President Trump, to be honest, because media is obsessed with Elon Musk. And no matter what you think of him, the desire to give transparency to how your money is being spent is not controversial. It's not crazy. It's a good thing. And the only way for them to reject it is to crap all over the messenger and then not talk about the message. But this is happening again and again and again. And all I keep thinking to myself is how many people want this? And it's got to be most of us. It should be all of us. I can't imagine I'd have an honest conversation with anyone in this country and say, hey, would you like to know how these dollars are being spent? And then look at me and say, no, I don't want to know. I trust them. They can do what they want with that. That would be like just giving tons of money to someone that you know has made tremendous amounts of mistakes and hoping that it goes better this time. Like, it'll be okay. I have definitive proof that you've made horrible decision after horrible decision, but let's just give you a bunch more and hope that things go better. And I don't want any information about how it actually occurs. I don't want to check in at all with how you're using those dollars. By the way, As all of this is going on, as Democrats and mainstream media are trying to push the freak out button and get people to just go crazy and complain, you also have Maxine Waters just yelling at a federal employee outside the Department of Education because she wasn't allowed in. Here's this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look them in the eye. Come on, hold your face up. Look at them. Let them see you. This is him. Look at him. What's your name? Tell us your name. Give me that ID again.
SPEAKER 12 :
I showed you the ID.
SPEAKER 07 :
Say what?
SPEAKER 12 :
I showed you the ID.
SPEAKER 07 :
You do what?
SPEAKER 12 :
I showed you the ID.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, I gotta be honest. If you're going to shoot a video as the crazy politician who is willing to fight whoever it is, at least verbally, that you're trying to expose, and you're Maxine Waters, it's not a great look when you can't hear. So it takes three shots for him to say, I've showed you my ID. You asked for it when you walked up to me. You weren't on camera then. Your whoever, probably a young person that works for you, then pulled out the cell phone and is trying to shoot a version of this on video. But I've already proven to you who I am. So legally, we're in a good spot. I don't have to do anything else. And you're just demanding my ID so people can come after me online for your craziness.
SPEAKER 07 :
Continue. Let me see the ID again. Let me see it. Huh? No? Well, someone else asked him for the ID. Will you ask him for it? He won't let me see it again.
SPEAKER 23 :
I love that all the people with her are like, I haven't seen it. Somebody show me the ID. I need to see it because we need to attack you, sir. Someone who is literally just doing their job of preventing people from going into a building that's currently, you know, not one they can access. There's so much of that in the world. Honestly, here's what I think happens. This is my genuine belief. People wake up, especially politicians, but a lot of individuals in our society wake up right now, and the first thought they have is, who am I going to fight today? Not why am I going to fight, which would be a much better thought to have. Why do this? You know, what is at stake? Those kind of things are not the question. The question is, who's going to take my anger? Where am I going to send it? Because it's getting sent regardless of if it's deserved. And I'm finding someone that's that's needed to be slapped in the face verbally or otherwise. And then they go out in the world and they do this and they think they did a good job, by the way. Maxine Waters is probably very proud of herself for yelling at a dude in front of a door today and putting that online and trying to get his name out there for people to attack him on social media. People who really don't have an interest in doing anything other than being loud and not actually being active. One last thing I need to play before we take a break, too. Gavin Newsom did a CNN interview, of course, the governor in California, supposed to be an heir apparent in the Democratic Party, although haircut doesn't really seem like someone that's well-liked even in California, which says a lot, by the way. If you're supposed to be a Democratic power player and you have a negative reputation in a state like California, you got to assume things aren't going to go well. I think the biggest reason people don't like him is the fact that everything he says seems to be bullcrap. It seems like he's very proud of the lying he does. But let's do this. He basically said during an interview on CNN that California will prevent people from building certain homes in the Pacific Palisades because science and climate reality mean they're not allowed to do it. Even if an American decided to build a home somewhere, understanding the risk, attempting to get insurance for said risk, even if that's getting harder in a lot of places, including California, the state will jump in and be like, you know what? No, we can't have this happen here. And these are the reasons why this is the beginnings of infringing on freedom. These are the things that people are afraid of. This is the line in the sand that you're saying, I can't let you cross government because once you cross it, things get worse for both of us. And it's happening. And it's been happening for quite some time. I'm sure people are yelling at the radios how COVID did that again and again. But here we go.
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You previously mentioned the timeline for rebuilding would be six to nine months. Is that going to happen? And should people rebuild in some parts of California, given how high the fire risk is?
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You can't rebuild the same. So we have to rebuild with science. We have to build with climate reality in mind. We have to look at infrastructure, redundancy systems, ingress, egress as it relates to emergency management and planning, materials, all of that.
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We have to say no. We have to tell you you're not allowed. And then he actually goes on to say how debris needs to be cleaned up in all of the horrible parts of California that had the wildfires. You know what's fascinating about that? And I'm sure I'll get yelled at by somebody, not here, not within the radio world in which I live, but some listener out there will be irate in this. When you talk about cleaning up, Trump, our current president, often says that the crazy amount of debris in the forests in California or anywhere else is part of the reason that these fires go crazy. And now the Democratic narrative is that they have to clean up the debris from these wildfires so that they don't have more fire. So essentially admitting... That if you have a bunch of kindling, a bunch of just tinderbox of stuff sitting around ready to catch fire in the off chance that there's another bad thing that happens, that it makes it worse. They're admitting the thing that they've denied for a long time and made fun of because they know that it's actually a reality. It's actually true. Fascinating to hear them do that. But if Americans aren't allowed to rebuild somewhere because California says no, even understanding the risk, that is a dangerous thing for us to continue to allow over here, over there and everywhere else. And they know it and they know how Americans will respond to that. And what's really interesting is in a lot of these parts of California, it's their base of voters. It's the Hollywood elite. It's people who campaign for the Democratic Party. They might be told they're not allowed to rebuild their house. I wonder how they'll take that. A quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. DLash or DanaLashRadio, two great ways to stay connected to her on X, on Twitter, all the time, putting stuff up there. I saw a breaking story of a reporter getting burned by a little kid. So a reporter in Oregon at a television station, KDRV, which, by the way, I had to do a double check when I saw those call letters, because there's a fantastic affiliate for the Dana show, KURV, which is out of McAllen, Texas, and just crushes it. Sergio Sanchez crushes it, too, every day. And they'd never make a mistake like this. They'd never air a bad word. They're professionals. But KDRV out of Oregon, a television station, KURV. Not exactly so great, although I guess you wouldn't expect a little kid doing an interview about power outages and fires to go a certain road language-wise. His parents are probably not thrilled today. By the way, my favorite part of this video, again, KDRV out of Oregon, not fantastic radio affiliate KURV out of McAllen, Texas. My favorite is when the kid says the bad word, the professional reporter seems unfazed, does nothing. Just continues going like, yeah, well, that makes sense that that would be the word you use. But the two little kids standing next to the little boy being interviewed, including a young girl, give huge smiles like, oh, we're all in trouble. All of us have done something wrong, although maybe authentically that's how they reacted. I can't get over the nonchalantness of this, though. I imagine dad is in trouble right now. Because maybe some language has been used. Maybe one of the two parents, for some reason I assume, a dad has been the one using it. And maybe mom has been upset about it.
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One more time, though.
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, man. By the way, I also know the amount of media that kids absorb now has terrible, terrible words in it. Maybe that's why you should pay attention to more radio things and not all the horrible stuff that's on YouTube and the Internet, because kids are learning bad stuff daily. This would be one of them. But great interview, by the way, and terrible, terrible journalism from KDRV in Oregon. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana show. My name is Craig Collins filling in thrilled to be with you. A D lash a Dana lash radio on X on Twitter to stay connected. This is hilarious. Kamala Harris showed up at the Laker game the other night. She was expecting people to be overjoyed to see her and it went viral when no one really cared. Very, very few people even clapped and I have the audio. I promise I didn't manipulate this to make it sound worse than it is. There's no need to do that. This is awful. That's my own clapping. That's the amount of people in the audience you're seeing like, yeah, you're here. We're thrilled to see you. And it's very, very few. And this is, again, in California. This is in L.A. during a Laker game. The talk of the town probably was not her, but Luka Doncic or anyone else that's become a brand new Laker. I just thought that was hilarious. She's walking in. She's waving. She's acting like she's a big deal. Nobody cares. By the way, and I'm sure you've probably heard audio of this by now, but some of the more amazing things that have been outed between Harris and her sit-down with 60 Minutes include this moment. And it's kind of cool. You get two things at once. First, you get an inside look at how TV is created and even news television, if you're not aware of it. There's a moment where they need to take a reshoot with Harris still sitting there of a question that was asked to her, a question that she did not really answer and didn't make the show in general, at least the edited version that wound up on 60 Minutes. But what I like even more than that, and the reason I've kept the question in, is after a long pause for them to turn the cameras off after they got what they needed to create the heavily edited thing that we eventually saw, he actually asks the question for real, and Harris can't answer it. And it's a pretty easy question. But again, by this point, the cameras were off, so why even try, I guess? But here we go. Here first is the question that gets asked. And again, this is the TV crew asking for this to be repeated so they have a clean shot of it.
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You hear me talking? Yes, sir. Well, we were talking about how we're going to pay for it. And I mean, I truly do mean it. You know, your plans are logical, make logical sense. Do they? The way Washington works is not logical. So how are you going to convince a divided Congress... that what you say, your plans, are something that they should all agree to and provide to the American people. And they've shown no inclination to do that.
SPEAKER 23 :
Yeah, yeah. They're not going to be able to pay for all of it, much less not going to be willing to agree to pay for all of it, which is his slanted version of a question. But yeah, not a bad question to be asked. Again, they were just doing this for production purposes. So after about a 30-second, 40-second delay where she's not even attempting to answer it because she knows she doesn't have to, he says this right after he's told the cameras are off. How will you?
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It's going to be taxes. It's going to be literally if the economists, I mean, they're each spectrum.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I hear what you're saying about the economists. This is true.
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But the mercy that comes out of people to immediately say, you know what, I'm just going to go ahead and interrupt you as you're struggling even off air. to answer a very simple question for me how are you going to spend and and fund the ridiculous amount of uh... programs that you intend to place even if i support them we know congress won't we know we don't have the money for that and harris did say taxes which you know would be a deeply unpopular answer to give on television even if it's the honest truth hiking those taxes up, baby, raising them for all Americans, especially since people with very good tax professionals, these would be people that are well off, are probably going to be able to avoid more of those taxes than the rest of us. So truthfully, the taxes go up on the middle class, on anyone that could potentially vote Democratic, believing it's going to be better for them and not worse, and it goes exactly the wrong way. But that was the best answer she gave. Taxes and, you know, other stuff. I can't fund it. The truth is you can't do it. And you're making wild promise after wild promise to a group of people that think you're helping them when in reality you're probably just going to embezzle and hide all that money anyway if you actually get funding at all. By the way, As I mentioned that, I do want to keep talking about USAID and all the different ways that media and some of these representatives are trying to reposition what's going on. If USAID goes away because it can't be fixed, there's too many broken pieces to it and it needs to be mothballed, it doesn't mean the United States wouldn't still be a philanthropic country. It's actually insane for people to pretend this is true. And there are scenarios where if we knew our money was actually going to something that would benefit the world in some way that the American people would support, I'm sure there would be a very easy vote on exactly this money going for exactly this cause with appropriate checks and balances to make sure it's not misused, wasted, or just straight up stolen. But that doesn't matter. The UN did a press conference the other day in which they essentially said Elon Musk is going to kill 6.3 million people. They didn't say it exactly that way, but that's what they want you to take away from this statement, regardless of how true or completely made up it is.
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We have 5,000 public health worker contracts that are funded by US assistance, and all of these in all regions of Ethiopia have been terminated. And 10,000 data clerks, very important in Ethiopia, so that we continue monitoring and ensuring that people are on treatment.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay. The data clerks being important to make sure that someone who's been prescribed medicine takes their medicine costing millions of dollars does sound insane. I'm just being honest. I'm sure a lot of people would believe that. And I doubt the data clerks are just doing that work if they're even being paid at all.
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So as UNAIDS, we estimate that if PEPFAR wasn't reauthorized between 2025 and 2029 and other resources were not found for the HIV response, there would be a 400% increase in AIDS death. That's 6.3 million people.
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We're going to assume this. We're going to project this, that if we don't get millions of dollars for us to put into IT, at least that's what we're claiming, 6.3 million people die. And again, the thing that's most interesting to me, I don't want to call it my favorite part. I'd often say it's my favorite part of the audio, but nothing's my favorite about discussions like this, to be honest. But the part of the audio where she lets you know that there's obviously a way to circumvent this horrific thing that she's projecting happening being a reality is to make direct funding promises for certain programs that actually do help people throughout the world. I understand America first. I believe in America first. But I hate the argument that's often made by Democrats that you're just bad people. How dare you? How dare you want this to happen over there or that to happen in this country? And how dare you won't use any of the resources of the American people to help with that stuff? And that's simply not true. However, an honest conversation would have to happen and a necessary amount of checks and balances would have to exist for the American people to truly entertain what we do other places. And I think we need to stop forgetting the amount of need we have here in this country in order to do that. If there's something wrong going on at home. Yes, many Americans, I assume almost all Americans, would support us making sure that we can fix that problem here in the United States before we look elsewhere. And that's where, again, all of these corruption, you know, worms, as Elon Musk called them, things are just happening. And I know it's sort of a semantic argument to even make it, but I just think it's so stupid when the need to vilify the side that's trying to clean up wasteful spending is out there. They need to vilify Elon Musk. They need to accuse him of being willing to kill 6 million people in order to convince others that he's doing a bad thing, even if he's taking millions and millions of dollars out of the pockets of the corrupt. It doesn't matter. One last thing, and I do just want to play part of this audio, too. It's kind of crazy. There was a, I think, three-minute rant by a Democratic politician out of Texas complaining about Elon Musk and all the horrible things he's going to do. But again, when you shape it a certain way, when you shape the narrative a certain way, when you know you're being actively dishonest, which politicians do every day, every hour, maybe every minute. I just wonder how they walk away from the podium being like, I did a good thing right there. I did a great thing right there. And you assume the only way they do that is if there's a giant wad of cash in their pocket, which is the selfish reason they'd say this stuff. But here's some of the latest crapping on of Elon from another Democrat popping up on television.
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Can't agree. That your elected representatives should be representing you. Your government shouldn't be run as a corrupt grift mill for a billionaire.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, wait a minute.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which billionaire? This is a national emergency. In the aftermath of the election, many Democrats needed time to soul search, to grieve, to think. But that time has ended.
SPEAKER 23 :
We need to barrel right back into the mistakes we made that made Americans not vote for us in the first place.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that time ended when Elon Musk took control of our country's financial nuclear codes.
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, I gotta stop. I love, I hate. But I also love, because of the ridiculousness of it, the need to mention nuclear codes. You remember that with Trump in the whole first term in office, that they were terrified that he was going to nuke another country. And like, how dare we give access to the nuclear codes to Donald Trump? And now they're saying the financial nuclear codes about Elon Musk. Because they have to fearmonger in the most insane way possible. And this Democrat... This representative Cesar actually, I think, hopes that someone misunderstands him and says Elon Musk has access to the nuclear codes, not his comparison of saying that Elon has access to our financial information in a way that would hurt all of us. So they immediately grandize whatever they're talking about. because it's affecting them. And they pretend it's affecting you, and it's not. And actually, if what happens does occur as well as you hope it is supposed to occur over the next four years, it's going to make things better for you. But they don't want you to believe that. They don't want you to think that. They want people to walk away from this and being like, Elon Musk might nuke another country. And that's what you'll see on social media. And there's no foundation of truth whatsoever there. And they don't care. But again, the only way I think you walk away from some of these press conferences is if you pat your pocket or hit, you know, something in your coat and you see essentially a gold bar, Bob Menendez style, just right there for you. Because thank you, sir. I did my part. Now give me my money. A quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. Let's fire off a quick five. My name is Craig Collins, filling in on the Dana Show, DLash, Dana Lash Radio. Great ways to stay connected to her. Radio Craig Z, if you want to find me on any platform out there, Facebook, Twitter, whatever. But DLash, DLash Radio on X is the best way to stay connected to Dana, let's do this. More Americans will be pulling for the Eagles on Sunday. Of course they will. The Kansas City Chiefs are essentially an evil empire at this point. I love how this surprises people that 48 to 50 percent of Americans would like to see the Eagles win and then a whole bunch of other people don't care who wins. That seems about normal. The longer the evil empire lasts in any kind of sport, the more detractors you have, the more people that would like to see it go away. Not just the fact that the refs seem to love Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs and seem to cheat for him actively at times. I'm mostly kidding, but kind of not kidding. Roger Goodell, by the way, rejected that recently. But just every part of this, I think you'd like to see, even the Eagles who won a Super Bowl recently, defeat a team that is going for history again. trying to have a three-peat in the world of football, something we have not seen before. 2% of people watch the Super Bowl for the announcer commentary. I thought that was great, and I can't imagine that's a lot of people that I know that are like, you know what, I don't care about the game. I don't care about the commercials. I want to hear what Tom Brady has to say, even though this will be Tommy's first shot at this, and I'm not expecting great things, which is crazy. Tom Brady is the ideal color commentary guy in the world of a Super Bowl, and yet he's not very good at this job, which might be something that he is unwilling to admit, even more complicated by the fact that he's an owner of an NFL team, but just not great. So I'm not looking forward to the announcer commentary at all, and yet apparently 2% of Americans are. I found that hilarious. I'd like to know more about them. One last thing in the world of football. after Travis Kelsey, Mr. Pfizer, according to some people out there, said it would be a great honor to have President Trump attend the Super Bowl. A whole bunch of Taylor Swift fans are now turning on Travis Kelsey because they're mad. They're very mad because T-Swift, I know I hate that I even mentioned her. I'm sure that you do too, but I can't help it. T-Swift herself hates the current president. So, of course, so do her fans. And apparently now they're very mad that Kelsey would say it would be an honor to have a sitting president attend a game as important as the Super Bowl, I just find that amazing. You can't say anything. It's not like Kelsey said that he loves the guy or voted for him or any of that. Not that I would personally think that that's a bad thing. I'm sure the Swifties would. But just the fact that you'd say you'd be honored to have someone filling the role of president of the country sitting in the stands watching you play football and that people would be up in arms about that, that's kind of ridiculous. By the way, in news beyond the United States and beyond football, I guess, I found this hilarious. The Ecological Transition Agency, the EPA in France, recently said that you should wear your shirt five times before you wash it. Doesn't matter how much you sweat. It doesn't matter how bad the reputation is or the, you know, whatever you want to call it, stereotype of certain countries for not smelling as great as other places. France wants you to wear that shirt five times, baby. That's horrible advice. for me and horrible advice for a lot of people. But they said that this would be good for the world in which we live. Wear your shirt five times and then go ahead and wash it. A bra seven times for some reason. Workout clothes three times and pajamas, wear them for an entire week. Jeans, you can actually go a full month, according to this organization, before washing them. So essentially, a whole lot of us would smell and just look terribly dirty. But if we all do it together, maybe then it becomes less of a thing. That or you just like douse yourself in Axe like you're an eighth grader going to a dance and then maybe everything will be fine there. And yes, I mean the body spray, which I have not used since I was 13. And I'm admitting I did use when I was 13 and it wasn't a good move. By the way, my Axe scent of choice. This is a weird thing to just admit on the radio, but darn it, we're here. I'm going to do it. Phoenix. And that was the one I remember using as a kid. Don't know if it holds up. I assume it didn't hold up even then. So I doubt it does now. But I assume France is just going to have a boatload of those shipped to them in the near future if they follow these rules. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about out there in the world. DLash, DanaLashRadio. Great ways to stay connected to her on X on Twitter. And RadioCraigC, if you want to follow me for some reason. Not as good as Dana. I do love this. Even though a Russell vote was confirmed as the director of OMB the other day, a whole bunch of Democrats needed to do everything they could to yell out and scream out how terrible he is, even during the voting process when you're just supposed to say yes or no. So a lot of these individuals were told to shut up. Although told to shut up in kind of an amazing political way. And I wonder if next time you're in an argument with someone who refuses to accept that your opinion and their opinion are allowed to be different. You're allowed to walk away saying we don't agree. That's totally fine. If you could go ahead and do this to them.
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Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote. The senator will suspend. Shut up, Mr. Kelly. Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote. The senator will suspend.
SPEAKER 23 :
Please shut up. Mr. Kennedy. Please. Mr. Kim. Oh, good. They know how to do this.
SPEAKER 22 :
Pursuant to Rule 12, no debate is permitted. Just try that out.
SPEAKER 23 :
Next time you're in an argument with someone outside of, I'd say, the missus, try to do pursuant to Rule 12. We have to move on from the yelling that's happening. You do that with the missus, you're going to be sleeping outside in the doghouse, like literally. So I wouldn't go that road. At least I haven't tried it yet. And I doubt I will. But this happened. By the way, while they were actually debating if Russ' vote should be in charge of OMB, a job he's had before, and a job he would be, I think, uniquely good at, and I'll play some audio in a bit demonstrating that, but you had several senators saying how dangerously out of touch he is with reality, and here's some of the reasons they claim that.
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He has stated that he believes the 2020 election was, quote, rigged. Horrible person. That's not just out of touch with America. That is dangerously out of touch with reality. Uh-huh. He has said he wants to traumatize our federal workers. That means all the people who work really hard to help in our communities, whether they're inspecting food or reviewing the safety of drugs or keeping our travel safe.
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Or just accepting a paycheck and not doing anything. since Marco Rubio said that we need about 250 people to work at USAID, and instead we have 14,000 people working in that department that seems to be just throwing money in places it shouldn't be thrown. These are the things that they want to complain about. What does the man himself say? About what he would do and how it would go if and now he's been confirmed. So he is once again, the director of the Office of Management and Budget. Here's what he told Tucker Carlson a couple months ago.
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But you're going to that's going to cause a lot of turmoil within these bureaucracies and you got to fight through it. And then they're going to overlay the aspect of, oh my gosh, you guys are racist, and you guys don't care about us as people. You're going to have to deal with that too, right? One of the arguments that they're using in the press against me right now is they say, he called for trauma within the bureaucracies. Yeah, I called for trauma within the bureaucracies. Yeah, I did. Bureaucracies hate the American people. They want to put a 77-year-old, and did, a 77-year-old Navy veteran in jail for 18 months for building four ponds on his ranch to fight wildfires. That's not the Department of Justice. That's the EPA. You go to every agency, and it's not just big government. It's weaponized against the country.
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And against the American people. and weaponized against the Republican Party, of course, as well. But that is a real story. If you want to look it up, the veteran's name is Robertson. He died at the age of 80, but he was being charged with multiple felonies back in 2016. Just insane. Horrible, horrible story, and one of many. And we as the American people would like this stuff to stop. I want to go back to something else a second ago that Senator Murray said. That was the female voice I was playing complaining about a Russ vote when she said that he believes that the 2020 election was fraudulent or corrupt or rigged. And how dare he say that? I think the biggest avenue toward a different conversation about that than we were having a couple of years ago, than even people like me who were not saying that I believed to the degree that it was being shared other places, that what happened was, you know, full on changing of votes and ballot harvesting and all that stuff. Although that did happen. But actually like allowing for someone to defend the position that the 2020 election wasn't a weird anomaly because you couldn't prove some of the things you were saying. And then in 2024, the lack of people that showed up to vote on the Democratic side of the aisle, losing millions and millions of votes and having a tremendously similar turnout to say 2016 or any previous election in recent memory and not the ridiculous, you know, inflated turnout of 2020. Well, darn it. That adds some credibility to saying that something was rigged. Something was at least created in a way that might have technically been legal, but certainly seemed to benefit one party, not the other. And on purpose, you know, cheating occurred. That's not as deranged as they want you to believe it is. And even more so, as I said, after what you've seen over the last couple of years and the fact that Trump could win the popular vote in twenty twenty four. After fighting to root out some of the ways that some of those voting things could be corrupted or at least, you know, inflated in a where promised that was legal kind of way. It's just amazing. And so I guess the rhetoric or the discussion points here, they're all going to morph. They're all going to evolve. And a lot of people are still going to reject them at their core because they never want to be proven wrong. They never want to accept that. You know, I said that I said, how dare you even reference that? That this could be corrupted when you don't have the proof to do it, even though maybe you are saying that you want more of those receipts to come out. And then you see more potential proof of these things actually occurring. And your reaction is shut up and go into your corner. I think that's the most important part of most of these discussions in society right now is trying to take a step back. which is hard for many people to do. I'm not pretending it's easy on whatever the issue might be and hear the latest argument and then decide if that's false or true. It doesn't mean you have to believe it's true, but at least be willing to hear the new argument before you reject it. Because I've heard that before in some other way or with, you know, this limitation or that limitation. And so I refuse to accept it now. I mean, honestly, the turnout in 2024 compared to the turnout in 2020 is a uniquely interesting thing. And anyone that's on a certain side of that discussion would tell you that the reason for that is people just lost faith in voting for anybody. A whole lot of people just didn't show up, just didn't turn out at all. And that could be true. But it certainly adds to the credibility that, you know, and I'm using air quotes you can't see on the radio, legally rigged could have also happened a few years ago. It is uniquely damaging for Trump to have won the popular vote to a lot of people who say that that's fully a conspiracy and no version of it should be accepted whatsoever. And I thought that was interesting. Maxine Waters. accosted a federal employee, basically, just yelled at him outside of the Department of Education. I don't know what she thinks she successfully did. This dude has got the glasses up on the forehead. He's bald. I don't know if that's from the stress of having to deal with people like Maxine Waters. I'm going to guess it is. He's got his hands crossed, and he's hoping that she goes away soon. But someone on the staff has whipped out the camera. And they're trying to record this guy and get information from him, I guess, so people can attack him on social media. I'm not really sure. But here's how this went down. Because she wants access into the Department of Education. So Maxine can do I don't know what inside there. Probably nothing good or even really valuable at all, I imagine. Here we go. them in the eye come on hold your face up look at him let him see you this is him look at it what's your name tell us your name give me that idea again so what i showed you the idea you do what what i showed you the could you let me see okay that's uniquely bad as far as the look goes you need that repeated three times and i love that she saw the id doesn't remember the name at all uh you pull out the phone you do the recording you want to see it again
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I love this, actually, if I'm going to be honest, because the point going into this moment, Maxine and her team, we're going to create a scene.
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We're going to do something that shows how horrible all the stuff that we're telling you to be afraid of actually is. We're going to prove to you that you need to be, you know, worried when you go to sleep tonight. And then the core disagreement is on forgetting the fact that she saw the idea already and knows the name. So she's asking other people around her to ask for this dude's information. That's what the fight's about. Now it's something tremendously stupid and not whatever it was supposed to be, which is probably also tremendously stupid, darn it. I just love this. And by the way, there are now a whole bunch of memes popping up of this individual standing in front of the federal, the Department of Education or anywhere else being stressed out about all kinds of stuff. It's amazing. All right. One last thing. And I can't. I can't help this. And it aired on CNN. It aired within the context of a discussion that makes it OK for it to air. But they were very, very upset about a 16 year old, now 19 year old tech person who's been part of Elon Musk's team looking into all of the terrible waste and abuse of funds with U.S. aid. And they're obsessed with him because of some things he put up on social media and also some social media names he had. He's been fired, by the way, I think, from Doge. So well done. Success here in getting this guy to be kicked out of a operation in which he's really just trying to uncover abuse and misuse of our money, of our funds, and maybe give it back to us. And that'd be great. I don't think they're talking about that, but I'd like a refund. I want my money back. But here we go. They're obsessed with this dude, and you'll be able to tell why very quickly.
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Yes, so this is a 19-year-old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online. So that would be one way that we could refer to him. He's now working at Musk's Behest inside Doge. And we looked into his background, and so we found... You know, several notable things, Aaron, one of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name, Tesla dot sexy LLC, which he established in 2021.
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I love the fear mongering attempt here. I'm really afraid of Tesla dot sexy LLC being in some way, shape or form connected to Doge. That seems bad for all of us. Again, he's a tech kid. who seems to be very good at finding where the rabbit hole goes. And that's probably why he was one of a team of people being used by Elon Musk. He was joking with anything he put up on social media, as you can tell, even by the name of the individual on social media. And yet, in order for you to be afraid, they need to have the most serious reaction to what could be an absolutely ridiculous discussion and then tell you how it's dangerous and horrible. And again, that's just because the piggy bank is getting closed up. It's tightening. The amount of dollars are escaping pockets or not continuing to line them. And so all of a sudden, that media thing, that tentacle that exists there is going to tell you more and more how dangerous and horrible this is for you when, I'm just going to be honest, my life hasn't changed at all. Anything they've done so far not impacted me a little bit. I'm sure a lot of people are the same way. And I think you should actually do that. Before I take a break, I'll say this one last thing. The next time you see something, anyone listening to the show, where media tells you American families are being harmed by this, just reflect for a moment first before you do anything else on if you're being harmed. Just sit down and be like, am I being hurt? Is my family being hurt? If the answer's no, then maybe don't pretend you know for a fact that that information is true. You can start searching for other people who say they're being hurt, and I'm sure there might be some out there, and that might be a better way to go about it. But I love the amount of people that immediately accept that narrative, where their own life is screaming at them that that's not true, at least not for them, and you wonder why they're then so passionate about a topic that has no impact on their life. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man. This is Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio. Great ways to stay connected to her on X. I have three of them. First, a Florida man was, quote, barking like a dog at an advanced auto parts for over an hour before police actually arrived to the scene. At some point, the guy is actually from Georgia, by the way, but he's a Florida man. True and true. Or at least I think he was in Georgia, but he's from Florida when he did this. Excuse me. But he's barking like a dog at the advanced auto parts. Police show up. They ask him what he's doing. My favorite, the 29-year-old goes, I don't think anything's wrong here. I have no idea I'm causing any issues because you're barking at a store. They bring him into the store. They eventually search him. They find a bunch of meth on him, which is unsurprising. And eventually it comes out that the dude is from Florida, which even better, I guess, as far as the story goes. But yeah, you can disrupt people if you just stand outside and advance auto parts you didn't even go into in the first place and bark like a dog for no reason. That eventually won't go your way as this guy's found out. Another guy who was busted by an undercover cop in Jacksonville during a drug deal. His name is Jordan. He's 25 years old. He tried to outrun the cops on a horse. I don't know why he had a horse. I don't know why he had access to the horse. But there was a somewhat dangerous chase that occurred because the guy tried to get away on a horse and, well, failed. That's not going to work out. Cops actually on a horseback took him down even better. I imagine that part of it. There are videos that show the pursuit, all kinds of things. One video of an officer, Casey Hare, went viral because the galloping action scene of one guy trying to run away and horses apprehending him is just kind of amazing and hilarious, but not really a good move to try to outrun cops and try to get away from them, especially if they're going to take you down Old West style. Finally, one last story that was pretty interesting. And granted, this guy might have had an actual health thing happen. I don't think we know why this occurred, so I feel bad that it falls in the Florida man stories, but darn it, it's Florida, and this seems to fit. A dude driving a boat passed out for some reason. He's expected to make a full recovery, but the way he passed out in the boat by himself... Caused it to just do circles. Just, you know, kind of be spinning around in the water. And it was, quote, out of control. So the sheriff's office decided to rescue the guy. The video went viral of a helicopter coming in and getting the guy out of the boat. As I said, again, he's expected to be fully fine. We don't really know what happened to him. If it was, you know, because of a decision he made or just a health crisis. But it is interesting to see a video of a boat just doing donuts near the shore. uh, for no reason whatsoever. And a dude laying, uh, toward the, you know, control the boat with, it seems like his arm up in the air. I'm not asking for help. Uh, I think he was still holding on to something that was making it turn, uh, turn and go the direction it was going. Uh, so again, I feel bad that this is in the Florida man story, even though it absolutely occurred over the weekend, uh, just because of the, the look of it and the Florida location of it. Uh, but who knows what was going on with the guy? I am glad to know that he's going to make a full recovery, uh, I don't know if that's true of all Florida men, but it's true of him. And that's pretty good. A quick break. A lot more coming up. Greg Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio, two great ways to stay connected to her on X, on Twitter, or just listening to her every day here or via her podcast. Great decision as well. First, let's play audio of the White House press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, telling you all the horrible, terrible things Trump is going to do. I'm being sarcastic, of course, because media, any version of it, and a whole lot of politicians want to convince you that Trump's plans are bad. But if you listen in the world of, say, taxes and cost savings for Americans, none of this sounds all that bad. A lot of it sounds pretty good, in fact.
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So these are the tax priorities of the Trump administration that the president has laid out for members in that meeting today. No tax on tips, which is obviously a very public campaign promise that the president made no tax on seniors, social security, no tax on overtime pay.
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Great so far.
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Renewing President Trump's 2017 middle class tax cuts.
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Thank you.
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Again, these are the president's priorities. Adjusting the SALT cap. Eliminate all the special tax breaks for billionaire sports team owners. Close the carried interest tax deduction loophole. Amazing. Tax cuts for Made in America products.
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Great. Across the board, wonderful. Even some eliminating of special tax breaks for billionaire sports team owners should be popular with the Democrats who scream and yell all the time about how the rich need to pay their fair share. Probably the biggest reason for that one specifically is how woke a lot of sports have become because those owners know they need to keep being nice to the side that's giving them a bunch of free cash, a bunch of free money. But this is just crazy. Made in America products too are getting a tax cut. It incentivizes us to create more things here, to become a country that can stand on its own without reliance on anybody, which is something we're more than capable of being again. America first in that way can't possibly be thought of as bad because it creates more jobs. If warehouses open back up, if people create more things here and tariffs can be used more impactfully against other countries and maybe even eliminate, say, the need to pay taxes, which is a real thing that's been talked about in some way, shape or form. uh... by the current president and actually was the way that our government made money uh... years and years ago i that wouldn't be so bad that would be widely popular if it actually occurs or not of course is another thing i've been on the last as uh... mainstream media legacy media or democrats are screaming to you how horrible and terrible and bad people are connected to trump or trump himself is uh... the tax cut plan that's being laid out there can't be seen as anything other than good about most americans And this is just amusing. As you're talking about that, Kamala Harris showed up at a Laker game the other night. I think the talk of, say, all the fans in the stands is how ridiculous it was that they got a 25-year-old incredible player and Luka Doncic to be a part of that team now for a trade that still makes no sense to most people who watch basketball even a little bit and not the fact that Harris was there waving and no one cared about her at all. That is the real reception in the section she's in. This is a person standing two rows behind her as she's walking into the arena and waving and coming up the stairs and sitting down right in front of this person. No one gives a crap. There's no applause. There's not really much of anything. Maybe a couple people waving. And she's acting like she's being embraced by millions of people. She's smiling. She's waving. And her own team is shooting a video of her and probably adding in some claps and things later. Hilarious. And that's in LA. That's in a place where you'd think she at least would still potentially be popular because of her years being a person that was in politics in California. But there's a no there. And I love so much of this, too, for a different reason. Recently, a lot of people have been saying no one elected Elon Musk as one of the attacks on him and Doge and all the ways they're trying to demonstrate that corruption is real. And the best part about Doge real quick is they're adding receipts to the things they're saying. They're showing you the proof. They're not just saying something that gets rejected because the proof is still being hidden. If you've ever had a conversation with anyone, I'll get back to my other point in a second. But if you've ever had a conversation with anyone where you get to that wall, where you say, I know just from what I'm looking at that corruption exists here and there, and they say, yeah, but can you prove it? That's usually a frustrating point in a conversation, but I've actually erred on the side of if we can't prove it, we can accept the idea that maybe it's not true. I'm not saying I actually believe that. But I can at least accept that this is a you think your thing, I think my thing moment in the discussion. We agree to disagree. Our opinions are what they are. But Doge is actually giving us the facts, the receipts themselves, proving to us what's going on. That seems like that should matter. And yet a lot of people are ignoring and still rejecting this discussion. Case in point is probably this interview on CNN where Pamela Brown is talking to an up-and-coming person within the Republican Party in Brandon Gill out of Texas, a representative out of Texas, just simply matter-of-fact stating some of the things that have already been released about USAID by Doge, by Elon Musk and his team. And CNN doesn't believe it. So they mentioned multiple times in this interview they're going to fact-check him in real time after the things he's saying and eventually begrudgingly admit that what he said was in fact true that we are spending money on crazy programs transgender programs in other countries a one of many examples used during this interview well what's unprecedented is spending our taxpayer dollars on left-wing partisan political projects all over the globe that's what the american people are focused on uh... this is a result
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of this election. This is a result of President Trump getting a very clear mandate from the American people to get rid of this kind of nonsense from our federal government. And we're doing it more efficiently than it's ever been done before. And again, the fury that we're seeing from the other side of the aisle isn't about this waste. It's not about paying for left-wing activism on the other side of the globe. It's that it's being exposed finally. And that's what the American people want.
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Yes, absolutely. You should want that. I imagine most of us do want that. It's our money. It's our dollars being spent on things that make no sense. Millions and millions of dollars of them in ways that should immediately be refunded to us, but of course won't be. And as I said during this interview, as he's naming some of these things that are being spent on, like transgender-related funding in other countries and programs of the like, CNN and Pamela Brown are telling him, we're going to check you, sir. We're going to make sure what you're saying is true.
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Certainly want more transparency about everything, right? About how taxpayer dollars are being spent and about what is happening within their federal government. I do want to note that they have done gender activism. in South Africa through gender-based violence and promote women's empowerment. It's not possible, though, to verify the millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars being spent. But USAID would say it's not doing left-wing activism. It's helping vulnerable populations. I take your point, though.
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I love the way that that went. I love every part of that. Because again, and I could play them for you, there's just several mentions as he's saying things of, well, we're going to check on that. We're going to dive into that. And then she uses the ridiculous out of, we don't know how many of the millions are going toward that, but it is true that there is money being spent in other places on things that make no sense and seem like left-wing ideology and not at all like what matters most. And especially when you start to look at things happening within our country, people who are impacted by a recent hurricane, whether that's in Florida, Texas, two places I've lived recently, actually, and the amount of funding that is limited there and wondering how we could possibly spend $250 million for a failed dam in a foreign country. That's a real thing. Look it up yourself if you want to and not be spending money on people here back at home instead. It simply makes no sense. There's even, I think, spending for a Sesame Street show in a foreign country that makes no sense to us. These are just a few of the things that have come out recently. And actually, Joe Rogan, one of the people talking about them a lot, he talked to a guest about this recently. And I just thought it was such an amazing interview. Brett Weinstein is the other individual's name, someone who's become a target of a lot of left and left-leaning media. And they're simply stating facts. as they're discussing this, facts we know about because of Elon Musk and Doge, and facts that were being kept from us before, because it validates the side of the argument that's been saying this terrible stuff's been going on.
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They gave $27 million to the George Soros prosecutor fund. So our own government is funding this left-wing lunatic who is hiring the most insane prosecutors who are letting people out of jail who commit violent crimes.
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And that's exactly how this racket worked, is that the ability to tax the American public and then effectively get us to
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pay for being propagandized for being surveilled that that's the game that's the whole game baby all right there you know i'll say one other thing and i want to say this uh without whatever level uh that people think is in here of of bias or you know partisan one-sidedness even though i can't help what my opinions are the thing that's amazing to me as this all plays out, as Elon's attacked or Joe Rogan interviews whoever he interviews and inevitably gets attacked for all of this, is that at the end of the day, all that's being looked for is truth, is accountability, is understanding of the bad things that are happening behind closed doors, things that most Americans believe occur. I don't know many people who don't think that there's corruption in Washington, who wouldn't tell you that as long as the messenger is one that they don't want to vilify, that, yeah, okay, that's probably true, that terrible thing they just said. It all comes down to just vilifying the individual. or the side of the aisle that's bringing this to the forefront of our minds and proving to us that this thing we've believed for a while is actually, in fact, true. It is incredible. This is the moment where the receipts are becoming available over the last few days and hopefully next few months and years. And this is the moment where people finally out themselves for being unwilling to talk about those things or show us those things, which most of mainstream media is ignoring these stories right now and only talking about the emotional component that they're telling you matters more. Without USAID, this is going to go bad or this is going to go bad. And I'll simply state this without it sounding like as big of advocacy as it might sound like it is for excess spending beyond our country, is if there is something that simply makes sense, That is, you know, human in nature and that most Americans would support because, of course, we want to be a philanthropic country or nation or, you know, just a people. Then pass just funding for that thing with a tremendous amount of checks and balances and see if people approve it or not. But the government doesn't want to do that. The side of the aisle that wants to use your emotion against you and hide all of their stealing and spending and corruption and embezzling within those those umbrellas wants to pass these giant, huge spending bills and giant, huge initiatives. They claim are for certain things and then they can move those dollars around how they want. If we have specific spending, nothing prevents our government from going ahead and passing those laws, those bills, no matter how much they tell you. If funding goes away here, it can never come back. Of course it can, just with way better transparency, which is what we should all want. Quick break, a lot more. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right, Dana's Quick Five, DLash, DanaLashRadio, on X, on Twitter, to stay connected to The Dana Show and DanaLash. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Today is Work Naked Day, or Working Naked Day. It is not a real national holiday, and if you don't work from home, it's probably a crime, however it is you're going. And if you do work from home, it's not something I really want you to be proud of doing, but apparently people out there are proud of the fact that they might be celebrating Working Naked Day. Another story... The Pepsi Challenge is going to be back this year for the Super Bowl. This is something that you've probably heard of before, I imagine, unless you're a young'un and then I can't tolerate you at times. That sounded amazing. I'm 39, and I used the word young'un a second ago. But here is an old version of a Pepsi Challenge commercial just to bring up those nostalgic feels for any of us that remember this the first go-round. all across this country people took the pepsi challenge and pepsi won because i don't know if they'll win again i imagine they might uh but yes and i don't even know if they really won the first time but the pepsi challenge is back and it seems wonderful Canadian officials are warning Canadians not to boo American peewee hockey players at an upcoming event that's going to happen. The mayor of Quebec actually begged people not to boo children from America in response to whatever's been going on between that country and President Trump. So how great it is you have to warn parents and adults not to boo little kids playing hockey because they're mad about stuff. Two other Valentine's Day related stories that I thought were interesting. The Memphis Zoo will name an elephant turd after an X if you want them to in honor of Valentine's Day this year. So if you feel very upset about something and you want to name a turd after a turd, that's their campaign. You can go ahead and do it. And if you then post that on social media, all of your friends will tell you you're still hung up on someone you need to get over. But that's your move. Do it however you want. It will be a byproduct of how people feel about you. And then the other one that I saw, a guy is offering to harass your date on a Valentine's Day date. This is in Malaysia. I wouldn't exactly work in our country. So you can be the hero that saves them. So they harass your date and you come in at the last second and save the day. I don't know if it's the same people who attacked Jesse Smollett. We don't know. But someone out there is doing this and apparently charging a fee for it between 25 and 40 bucks. to harass your date during Valentine's Day so you can seem like a wonderful person that you're definitely not. It's a weird move. Back to the Future did this back in the day. We all learned the lesson from that. It doesn't work out the way you think it does. So please don't do this. But I guess it won't be a problem here unless Jussie Smollett gives you the information for his guys. Then maybe it will be. Quick break. A lot more. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you at DLash, Dana Lash Radio to stay connected to her on X, on Twitter, or wherever you want to find her. Podcasting all over the place at Radio Craig C if you want to find me for some reason. And thanks for anyone that's doing that. I'm not as active or as cool as Dana on some of those platforms. All right, there's a headline out there from the Associated Press and a bunch of other places. President Trump did say that one of the reasons for the horrible plane crash with the Black Hawk helicopter in the D.C. area the other day was because of obsolete equipment that's being used by air traffic controllers. He, of course, in a press conference right after the event, also talked about DEI. Then you had J.D. Vance, Vice President Vance, go out there and have discussions about DEI as well, in which a lot of mainstream media said that they were backtracking. The reason I want to bring this up is I find it so important and so interesting and And especially at a time when we're also going to have forced leave for U.S. aid employees, a whole lot of people are not going to be allowed to work right now for an organization that Elon Musk is identifying through Doge as deeply corrupt. And finding that corruption and weeding it out or having to start all over again is something that Americans should actually think is a good thing. And seeing the actions match the words is something the government is not actually used to. But here's the truth in the world of DEI and air traffic controllers. And please feel free to look it up. And it might be silly to do a deep dive on this, but I can't help myself as story after story has the same basic narrative that Trump is making things up, that President Trump is lying and, you know, using what is politically valuable positions on things and not actually, you know, hard facts. So during the Obama presidency, yes, this is where we have to start, there was an edict put out to change the way that several different government organizations hire people. And the FAA, and specifically air traffic controllers, embraced those changes. And those changes were based on race. They were based on disability. They were based on a lot of things that had nothing to do with if you were actually good at the job or not. This occurred. And actually, it occurred to such a significant degree that there was a lawsuit about it. An individual and then a class action lawsuit was filed, still in the process of being worked out. The FAA has denied these things. But where an applicant by the name of Andrew... was sent an email saying that the FAA had implemented changes to improve and streamline its hiring process. And because of that, his application was impacted. Andrew, of course, is a white dude, if you were curious about that part. And they also changed what schools they would even look for applicants from in order to place these positions. So what occurred when they did all that? years ago, up to now, up to a lawsuit in 2018, and a bunch of the still unresolved aspects of it. Unsurprisingly, we wound up with a shortage of people that could do that job. Unsurprisingly, when you limit the amount of applicants for a position, you wind up with staffing issues. And then what happened over the last couple weeks and the discussion about it and how terrible that accident was in the first place is partly because there was only one person working when there should have been two. And the reason there's only one person working is because they have limited staff to begin with. And at that time, earlier than normal, you send a person home, even though it's still busy enough, because you want them to work certain other hours and not go on overtime, et cetera, et cetera. So could you make the claim? I know that was a deep dive. I know I asked you to pay attention to several of those aspects of that story, though, that DEI impacted what eventually happened in that crash. Absolutely, you can. You can say that hiring practices and changes that had nothing to do with merit and ability have caused us to be in a place where air traffic controllers are now a deeply struggling organization or industry or have staffing and hiring issues. that they're trying to fix over the last couple years, and it's going to take a while to do it. You can absolutely make that claim. I love that mainstream media claims that that is backtracking from saying that DEI played a part in everything that happened, though, because any of those... And I don't care what it is. By the way, if it's DEI specifically... You have to be a racist if you don't believe in it or something else. I guess if it's disability-related things, then you're a horrible, terrible person. I think an ableist is what they call you in those worlds. But what if all you actually do care about, honestly and truthfully, is that people who deserve jobs have an opportunity to get them regardless of what they look like? I mean, I saw Jon Stewart, I'm not even going to play the audio, take this on on Monday on the show he now does once a week and make the claim that a bunch of conservatives, a bunch of politicians and media people just want to reinforce that a white guy is the only credible guy to do a job. More or less, that's what he says. I'm paraphrasing. And that's an insane version of trying to, I think, incite more anger and more just craziness than actually get to the heart of what's being said. Because a meritocracy has nothing to do with what you look like. And absolutely, people who don't look like me, a white dude that's almost 40, can do great things. There's a bunch of examples of people doing great things that look nothing like me. But do not prevent people that deserve jobs from getting them because they do look like me. Don't tell them, I'm sorry, we can't have people like you in this position. And the reason I did a deep dive into this, and I've mentioned this story a bunch of times before, It was early on in my career in media. I was at a certain place working where a bunch of people who had a role that I had were white dudes. And I remember going into an all staff meeting and the boss in charge, who was actually the second in command of the place I was working, said out loud to a room. Now, granted, this was in a city that was overwhelmingly left leaning politically. that the next person who hired for the job, who applied, excuse me, for the job that I had, if they were a white guy, they weren't going to get it. And it was a joke. And a lot of the room laughed. And I remember looking around at the other people in the position I was in and being like, are we bad somehow? Did he just say that I'm not good at my job or I don't deserve my job because of who I am? And it was such an odd thing to be stated. And this is years ago before a lot of these discussions are going on. And so now as they're all coming out, and I remember even walking out of that meeting, like saying how weird it was to hear that. And depending on who I said that to, there were people that seemed to agree with me and people who didn't. And all of it seemed based on race, sex, what have you, and not on actual capability. But the one thing that also didn't happen is no one told me I was bad at my job. Because I wasn't and I shouldn't be just because of my race. And it's amazing that those are the conversations we have now more than anything else. And they exist within air traffic controllers, within any. And it will exist within the USAID discussion. Because again, a whole bunch of people are going to be put on some sort of forced leave. And you hope a whole bunch of people inevitably don't continue to have jobs if those jobs are unnecessary. You save a bunch of money for taxpayers by not having egregious wasteful spending in the world of government. It seems stupid to say this or silly or obvious. And I think a lot of you will feel that way. But the comfortability that government has with wasting our money, not just actively like stealing it and embezzling it, but the wasting part of it and how little we're supposed to care and how effective the narrative can be to vilify anyone who tries to remove waste. is amazing to watch when they're actually being called on the things they've done. When finally a lot of these receipts and information is going to be made available to the public and you're going to be seeing how egregious all of these decisions were. It's amazing to watch them squirm but also seem to still be fairly arrogant and confident that what's going to occur is they're going to convince you that somehow what they were doing was right all along. Because most people know, I think almost everyone in our country knows, that at the very least, the government is tremendously bad at spending your money and wastes a lot of it, if not actually just actively, as I said, steals it, which a lot of us also believe they do. But it's just amazing to watch. as that plays out and as those individuals try to claim that what's actually occurring is somehow bad for you and me. And the other thing that will be very important, and I'm sure will happen for a lot of us, is none of that stuff that they say is bad for us will actually hurt us, which makes a whole lot of people believe them even less. I think even AOC was out there saying how the government can't be trusted recently, which is sort of, or excuse me, media can't be trusted. Of course, you wouldn't say that about her sweet, delicious government. And it's just kind of amazing to see These individuals feel like they're part of the correct side of these stories when they're so evidently part of the other side. But I have some of that audio. I can play AOC for us for a second. Here we go.
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If you did not listen to a single Trump rally, if you weren't listening to how they were talking to people this time around, you would miss that the Trump campaign was talking to people very differently this time around than they did the first time around.
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Or then media told you they were talking to them. And I love what she's trying to say is you don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes. You don't know how bad it was when the reality was it was a very effective and winning message. It's sort of amazing. To me, to have anybody out there in the world of politics criticize the side of the aisle or the campaign itself that won and won the popular vote for the first time in a long time for conservatives and doesn't actually hear the criticism for them. You probably know people in your everyday life who criticism toward them is impossible. No matter what you say, no matter how you say it, the reaction will be, no, not possible, can't be right, you're wrong. How dare I have to be open-minded to hear this thing? And Democrats are the craziest of them right now, at least the politicians are, because you'd think a resounding butt-kicking would cause you to actually go back to the drawing room table and be like, you know, we need to change some stuff. We need to do things differently. We need to hear the message that actually was put out there and also maybe explain how 20 million or so people just vanished as far as voting from 2020 to 2024. If that's true, Which, of course, a lot of people would be suspicious about that sort of thing. But let's take the argument of Democrats that it's true. That would be an indictment of everything you've been saying over the last few years and the horrible track record of the administration that was in charge in that time. And they're not hearing that. They're not hearing that a ton of people decided they didn't even need to vote this time around because you did that poorly. And that would be, again, accepting all this information is simply true. and not stuff we probably need to look into more. But I bet you Doge will get to that at some point, or someone else in government will get to that at some point, and any information that's been hidden will be released there too, which should be unilaterally thought of as a good thing. All right, rant done. explanation done, all that stuff done. We'll take one last break. We'll come back and we'll talk about the favorite wings you have for the Super Bowl, the favorite dips, and other stuff, because darn it, we have to have fun too. We'll be talking about stuff that's serious. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dana is back on Monday. A couple quick things. I saw out there that a woman was trying to sound more masculine in an email to coworkers. This is something that many women are doing. One of them wrote to one of those Dear Abby places saying that this is an attempt they're making to see if things go better. And the experts are saying this is going to be more harmful than helpful. for you. I don't even know what that really means to sound more like a dude than a woman in an email. I don't know if I sound like a dude in my emails. I am a dude and I've never thought about it before in my life. Apparently they're even using AI. So someone will write something in to some sort of work email and then copy and paste it into an AI thing like chat GPT and go and man this up for me, baby. And then seeing if that works. One individual on TikTok specifically claims it helped him get a promotion. I'm not sure if that means the company had no idea you were a lady the whole time. I don't know what it is. I don't know what's going on there, but it's a trend. It's a claim. It's a thing going on. So good luck to anyone trying. Again, the experts are saying this is probably not a good idea, especially since most people who are doing this equate just being aggressive with being a dude, even in email form, something I'm not sure is exactly accurate and not always going to help you out, regardless of who it is doing it. Another story just quickly to touch on that I saw out there, a crazed passenger, a woman on a Singapore flight locked herself in the bathroom for two hours and yelled stuff at people. Eventually, you're escorted off that flight. And I think this happened like very late in the evening, delaying the flight until like 1.15 a.m. A whole bunch of people on that flight are no fan of you. I would play the audio, but it's definitely not in English, and I have no idea if any of the words being screamed are bad. But the reason I love the audio so much is a bunch of the people on the plane are heard just laughing. They're just laughing at the craziness of the woman who's locked herself in the bathroom and claims she's not getting off that flight, who eventually loses that battle and is escorted off the flight. Because you're never going to win in that world if you try it. And then there's a follow-up video probably taken by one of the people on the flight who's enjoying it of the woman being taken into custody after the flight has landed. So just an insane set of things happen. The flight attendants probably deserve sweet, sweet raises for how they handled it. But I just love the fact that a whole bunch of people laughed their way through it because what else are you going to do? Although, honestly, if it delays the flight until 1.15, I feel like there's a lot of other ideas I have and other people have as to what you do, and it's not just laugh through it. It's maybe help them chuck this person off the flight. One last thing, and I do like this, too. They dove into, they being the Internet people, the most popular Google searches just ahead of the Super Bowl, including what type of wing flavor is. is most popular, at least searched most, for people in certain countries, or in certain states, excuse me. I thought it was really interesting, two of the results. In Oklahoma, crack dip was what we found. I don't know why that's happening. I don't even know if that's a thing in Oklahoma specifically, although the internet is claiming it is. But it seems bad if it's, you know, drug-related, although I guess it's not. In Vermont, vegan buffalo cauliflower dip was the option of choice. That sounds horrible. Most states just want Buffalo chicken dip, seven-layer dip, jalapeno poppers, those kind of things. The top appetizer that people Googled was a Philly cheesesteak or a Philly cheesesteak slider, which seems like a great call. Hawaiian roll sliders and pigs in a blanket. Also something I've never heard of before landed on this list of other appetizers beyond wings, a cowboy caviar. which apparently is something that is very popular. It's a fancy version of just regular dip. It's got a potluck version of stuff in it, including corn, beans, all kinds of things, and then your typical tomatoes and whatnot for dip. But they call that cowboy caviar. No caviar, in fact, in there, thank God. Potato Skins also made the list of very popular appetizers. And then finally, in the world of alcohol, just in time for the Super Bowl, apparently we are searching for recipes for jungle juice, old-fashioned margaritas, espresso martinis, and all kinds of other things. Cognac, specifically, because of the Super Bowl happening in New Orleans and people wanting to New Orleans up their celebration of said game. One last thing I'll say, I am also cheering for the Eagles to win because... Well, a lot of reasons to dislike the Chiefs, even if they would create something that's never happened in the world of football again or ever if they win a three-peat. But beyond that, just be quiet during the actual football game, at least as much as you can be. Some people show up at these parties to watch the football. I know it sounds crazy, but they do. I'm out of here. Greg Collins filling in on the Dana Show. She's back Monday.
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Dive into the depths of the media’s influence within the political sphere as Reggie Rocco and John Fabricatore lift the curtain on hidden alliances. Through passionate discourse, they explore voting machines' controversial connections, bringing forth startling revelations about political strategy and control. This episode is a journey through the American identity, addressing cultural impacts at home, and questioning the balance of power that underlies the nation’s political and social fabric.
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Woo, 560-KLZ, I'm your nighters, Reggie Rocco. Of course, I got my boy, Lukey Luke. A lot of things going on. And you know what, Luke? Let's skip the first round of advertisements and commercials. How about that? You know what I'm saying? We got a lot of stuff on the line. A lot of things are happening. And already on the phone, we got one of the biggest, one of my favorite people that I had the pleasure of meeting recently. And he's just fabulous. And I'm sure you guys know who you are. John, you there? Yeah, I'm here, Reggie. How are you? What's up, buddy? So, hey, man, you know how much I respect you. We've been talking, and you've been keeping me up to date with everything, and I know the power positions that are going on and what you're doing. Why don't you tell the audience what's happening, what you think is going on, the yays and the nays, and just let them know what you're doing.
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Yeah, so this is John Fabricatore, and that's how you pronounce my last name with the E at the end. A lot of people like to say Fabricator, and that is not it. It is Fabricatore. So yeah, I retired from ICE 23 years, 30 years total with the government. Working for the Heritage Foundation now, doing some work and writing some op-eds for them and doing some other things. I just started up Safe Colorado to keep people safe here in Colorado. We're doing some advocacy work, trying to get rid of sanctuary status laws that do not keep American citizens safe. All they're keeping are illegal alien criminals safe, so we're trying to get rid of those. And, you know, just moving along and trying to get things done, watching what's happening with, you know, the men and women of ice who, you know, I used to work with and, seeing what they're doing every day and you know, uh, just trying to follow along Reggie.
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So what's your opinion on how Trump is doing? You know, I know it's, it's self explanatory cause he's, he's just killing it to me. He's just doing great. But are you surprised by these protests are coming on and things are starting to get a little rough out there for ice and you know, everything. Uh, what do you feel about that?
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Reggie? I'm not surprised because when I was the director for ice here in Denver, during the first Trump administration. I had protests at our facilities all the time. We had abolished ICE protesting. This is what the left does. They mobilize, take to the streets. But the thing is, they're misinformed. They're uneducated on this matter. So, you know, Trump is going in, he's going after criminal illegal aliens first, trying to keep the community safe. Of course, some undocumented collaterals will get picked up, but you're in the country illegally. Right. I was downtown just a couple of days ago when the protest was going on down there, and most of the signs down there kept saying, Immigrants keep America safe. Immigrants create jobs. No, they're not immigrants, though. That's not what President Trump is going after. President Trump is going after illegal immigration. And we've got to do something about it sometime soon. We just can't keep ignoring the problem.
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So how is it that they believe that they have rights when they come here illegally? Explain that to me. Do they have rights? Do they have constitutional rights even though they're illegal aliens?
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Yeah, so anyone that comes into the United States actually has constitutional rights. I mean, that is the good thing about our Constitution. But with that being said, that does not make them United States citizens. Just because our Constitution may cover you in most aspects, it doesn't cover them under the Second Amendment. There's a separate provision that aliens cannot possess firearms. But, you know, and things like First Amendment rights and Fourth Amendment and Fifth Amendment rights, they are covered. But they're not United States citizens. They are not, you know, sovereign to this nation. They did not come in lawfully. They are not naturalized citizens. They are not permanent residents. And the issues that most people have with illegal immigration is, you know, this last administration let in millions of lightly to unvetted people into this country. We don't know who they are. Some of them are committing crimes. We've had an uptick in gang membership and Tren de Aragua coming in, South American theft groups coming in and robbing people blind when, you know, we've had football players' homes raided and things stolen from their homes. You know, this is the issue that most people have. And look, when you go out and you make an arrest for deportation, you put that person in front of an immigration judge. Many people are misinformed and think that, you know, these agents go out on the street, they pick someone up, and they kick them right over the border right away. That's not what happens. They get an opportunity to go in front of an immigration judge and argue their case. That's the only way we're going to clean this up, Reggie. We've got to get people in front of an immigration judge. If you get ordered deported, you leave. Maybe you come back at a later date. But we've got to clean up immigration.
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Now, before I let you go, because I know you are a busy man, what really gets me, it's a lot of things, but this really gets me that you're going to be in this country illegally, protest, talk crap about the United States. You're flying Mexican or Venezuela, Cuba flags, and you're burning our flag. But if you like it so much, go. Get out of here. That's the whole thing. Why are you here? It's like these people are insane to me.
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Well, Reggie, you really got to listen to some of the messaging from the people that are protesting. They don't believe that they're here illegally. A lot of the La Raza movement believes that they are on stolen Mexican land and they have a right to it. There's so many people that come over the border that really don't want to assimilate to become a United States citizen. They have their own thoughts and processes into what they believe the United States should be and how it should look. And that is not the case. We're the United States of America. This is a sovereign nation. You should obey its immigration laws. And if you want to be here, you assimilate, you become a United States citizen, and you serve our cause.
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Well, you know, I appreciate you calling in 100%. You know my nickname for you is Fabulous. I love it, Reggie. I love it. So I'll call you in a couple days and update you and everything like we've been doing. And keep up the good work, big dog. I really appreciate it. We all do. Stay safe. Thank you. Have a great day. You too. Hey, man. I am so tired. of the hypocrisy. Now for the longest, you know I've been telling you about the industry, behind the scenes, all the stuff Trump done for and still does for people, black people, all this is true. Now I told you the puppies, all this is coming to light. And really what this is, like Luke, we've said it, follow the money, the money and the power. That's all you gotta do. And Trump's team, when Trump was talking about draining the swamp, we had no idea. I didn't even have any idea how deep this was. So even in all this evidence is coming out about the voting machines, the dossier, the FBI, Mark Zuckerberg, who I hope Trump don't deal with him. I hope he's playing this dude because that dude's evil. uh all these things against our country all these things against what we stand for and they just lie they lie and lie and they can get away with it because you know what you got to understand i'm street smart and i'm academically smart so when when i look at this i can see it coming from a mile away i'm like this is mob stuff This is mob mentality. This is connections under the table. This is what we're dealing with. So there's a on my thread. Somebody sent it through my page like I always do. And it came up. There's this interview with this guy. I want you guys. So if you're listening, you need to sit back. Turn up your radio and listen to this guy here because he connects the dots like you will not believe. Go ahead, Luke, do that.
SPEAKER 11 :
The governor of Michigan used to work for George Soros. Who's the governor of Michigan? Think about it. California Governor Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi's nephew. Just just bear me out. Keep coming with me. Adam Schiff's sister is married to one of George Soros' sons. Who George Soros? He hates the United States. He wants to turn the United States on its head. He put all of these progressives in office. He votes strictly Democrat. He supports strictly the Democratic Party. And he hates the United States. He said it. He hates us. John Kerry, we know who he is. Forget that guy. His daughter is married to a mullah's son in Iran. His daughter is married to a mullah's son in Iran. Understand the connection that I'm making here. These are all facts. I'm not making this up. ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama's former national security advisor. You want to see the deep state? You want to see the mafia? You want to see how this all pulls together? You want to understand why certain things have happened in this country over the past several years? Keep listening. CBS president David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's deputy national security advisor for strategic communications. So ABC News and CBS News both have people at the high level that were connected to Obama and the Democratic Party. ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to Jay Carney, who is the former Obama White House press secretary. Look at the connection. Look at the mainstream media. Look at the deep state that we're talking about. This is mafia. This is all about control. Got to give them credit. They've done it right. ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, who is Obama's former former deputy press secretary. Look at the connection here. Look at how it's all coming together. ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Elizabeth Sherwood, Obama's former special advisor. Who do you think's calling the shots here? You know darn well Biden wasn't calling the shots. You know darn well Kamala Harris isn't calling the shots. You know what I heard today? Somebody said it's okay. We hate Trump so much we don't want him to be president. And we know Kamala Harris is incompetent. And we know she's not in control. This was a Democrat saying this. But it's okay because she'll send representatives. Obama's really pulling his strings. They'll fix it. If they have to go meet with Putin or they have to go meet with China or Iran, they'll send somebody in her place. They're admitting she's a puppet. And they're admitting that they know it, but they hate Trump so much, a guy that's capable, that they'll vote for her anyway. These are the people that we have. Understand, CBS, ABC, all in the pocket of the Democrats and George Soros. CNN, Vice President Virginia Mosley is married to Tom Nides, former Hillary Clinton's Deputy Secretary. Why are they hiring all Democrats? Why are they hiring all people that are related to the Democrats and none to the Republicans? Think about it. Mafia? You bet. all about power and control. They've been installing these people. They've been controlling the media. This is what it's all about. Let's keep going. This is what you call a stacked deck. If you had a hunch the news media was somehow rigged and you couldn't put your finger on it, this might help you solve the puzzle. Now you know why no one is investigated. They all have their hands in the cookie jar. You might remember James Comey, remember, head of the FBI, who investigated the Clinton email scandal and the Clinton Foundation and made the final decision to not recommend prosecution by the DOJ. Well, listen to this. It turns out that Clinton Foundation was audited by the law firm DLA Piper. One of the executives there was in charge of the Clinton Foundation audit. Who was it? Peter Comey, James Comey's brother. Why wasn't she investigated to the full? Why wasn't she indicted? She should have been indicted. She obstructed justice. We know that. We know that there was bribes coming into the Clinton Foundation. But James Comey's brother was in charge of the investigation. This is mafia, people. Take my word for it. And it only gets worse. It gets worse. This family tree will make your head spin. The swamp is deep. And yeah, I wrote this all out. The swamp is very deep. And this was sent to me. And I just re-edited some of the things so that I can make it simpler for you to understand. But this is what you got here. This is the real mafia. It's why I wrote the book. I saw this years ago, people. You got to give the Democrats smart. They did the right thing. They weren't as underhanded as Republicans. And I'm not saying Republicans are lily white. I'm not saying they're perfect, but they don't match up with the Democrat strategy because they're underhanded. They'll stop at nothing. They don't care about violating the law. They installed all of their people in the right place. We used to do that, too, in a mob. Put our people in the right place in the union so that we can control them. Get our people close to government officials so we can control them. This is exactly a mafia democracy. This is what I'm talking about. Listen to this. Dominion. Remember Dominion? There was controversy about them. They're the voting machine provider. They serve 40 percent of the U.S. market. It's in 30 states. The state of Texas rejected the machines and they did that for a reason. Admiral Peter Neffinger is on Biden's transition team. Neffinger was president of the board of Smartmatic. Watch the succession here. Smartmatic, another voting machine supplier, entered into an agreement with Dominion in 2009. Peter Neffinger, he was on Biden's transition team. He's part of Smartmatic. And now Smartmatic enters into an agreement with Dominion in 2009. Smartmatic counted votes in Venezuela. Smartmatic is connected to the Philippine voter fraud. Remember that whole incident? Voter fraud in the Philippines. Dominion. Smartmatic. Smartmatic is run by Lord Mark Malik Brown, who works for George Soros. Here we have Soros again, pulling the strings in the background, putting things into place. This is mafia stuff, without a doubt. He and Brown are lifelong friends. George Soros and the guy who operates Smartmatic, Mark Malik Brown, are lifelong friends. Brown chairs the board of a number of nonprofit board foundations, including the Open Society Foundation. Brown chairs the Center for Global Development. Open Society, of course, is owned by who? George Soros. Look at the connection here. Look at the connection with the media. Look at the connection now with these voting machines where we had controversy. Remember Trump complaining, people complaining in Arizona that the Dominion, there was something wrong there. Who controls this? Listen closely. Smartmatic partnered with DLA Piper Global. Douglas C. Emhoff, who is that? the husband of Kamala Harris, works at DLA Piper Global. So now you got a connection to Kamala Harris with the voting machines. Douglas C.M. off, of course, Kamala Harris's husband. Guess who owns Dominion? Blum Capital Partners. Guess who is on the board for the company? Richard Blum. Guess who Richard Blum is? Dianne Feinstein's husband. Do you see how this all ties together to the Democrats, all the progressives? You have people in government in the Democratic Party that were controlling the outcome of Hillary Clinton and other things. And now you have the voting machines dominion that surfaces. Forty percent of the country is all tied up with the Democrats. And we have we have controversy about all of these things. Richard Blum is Dianne Feinstein's husband. Nancy Pelosi's husband is also a major investor in the company. Nancy Pelosi, she despises Donald Trump, despises him. Her husband is on the board controlling Dominion. An aide to Nancy Pelosi, Nadeem al-Shami, was hired by Dominion Voting Systems. Well, it was an aide to Nancy Pelosi. They're not hiring Republicans. They're not hiring people close to Trump. They're hiring all Democrats. This is mafia stuff. It's all about control. And look at the control that they are having now. And it goes on and on. Dominion Voting System is listed on the Clinton Foundation website. Dominion Voting is listed as a $25,000 to $50,000 donor to the Clinton Foundation in 2014 by the Washington Post. I mean, it goes on and on and on. You must remember the Feinstein, Kavanaugh, Soros connections to understand this next information. Deborah Katz, who is Christine Ford's lawyer. Remember, she was the one that made the allegations against Kaufman. Remember that she worked for George Soros at the Open Society Foundation. Her lawyer, Christine Ford's lawyer, the one that made the whole stink and falsely accused Kavanaugh, okay, her lawyer worked for George Soros. Kamala Harris, listen to this, did not prosecute One West Bank for their fraud when she had the authority to do so, and Soros owned One West Bank. Do you see how this is all tying together? I can go on and on and on. But now you know why a woman who placed seventh, she placed seventh in her own state when running for vice president is now the vice president and now the Democrats nominee for president after overthrowing Joe Biden. But these same people who are all corrupt will tell you Trump is the problem. He's the liar. He's the felon and that he's a threat to democracy.
SPEAKER 17 :
Woo-wee, boy. That's the best breakdown and connection. And Luke, we're going to simplify it because all we've been saying is mafia, follow the money, the power. It's all mixed in. Everybody is mixed in. And they do this. And now when Trump's draining the swamp and he got his people, all this is coming to light. And I just hope there's a... an end game in reference to prosecution. I just can't sit here. I can't even sleep knowing that all this stuff is going on. And I've been saying it. It's been so easy for me to see just being in the political game for the eight years I've been in this, but behind the scenes mixing everything I know about the industry, about Trump, and all the stuff that I've learned and people that I know. I know some powerful people. And, you know, i basically do what they say and they and they come when they contact me or whatever and i i get the message to you guys because i already know i already know and i just want to get these people arrested that's my main thing oh here who's online johnny you on the line yeah okay you see how they're coming out the month okay then must get these these young guys to help
SPEAKER 07 :
Now they say they can't go after Musk as good. So let's see what these other people are about. And so Musk had one guy that he didn't like, which is kind of stupid of Musk. And I guess this guy wrote a post that I'm the most racist. If you put up the name racist, my picture will pop up. Yeah. And it's almost like, come on, Musk. The way we're going, vet your people that you're bringing in. Because now they're pointing like, oh, he made that mistake. How many other mistakes is he going to make? So I'm just saying he can't be giving them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, yeah, because what you're basically saying is the Republicans have no room for any type of mistakes or controversy. But you know what I say to that? I really don't. I don't care because nobody's 100 percent perfect. And if some people will listen to me, Johnny, and they don't know me, they swear I'm a racist. You know what I'm saying? They have no idea who I am, what I've done for people of all ethnicities, cultures, race, everything. But I'm a guy that's going to keep it real. You know what I'm saying? Me and Luke talk about it all the time. I love racial jokes. I love the whole thing. But when you talk about going down the business, I don't even see color, yo. I love cultures, I love different cultures and everything. Like I told you, my favorite food is Mexican food. But that don't mean that you're gonna come across the border and quite frankly, I'm done living in Venezuela because that's what I feel. Everywhere I go, I hear this carnival music, All loud, every time, everybody's talking in Spanish. I'm just like, wow, I don't even need to go visit Cuba or Venezuela or Mexico. It's all here. And so where's the American culture? That's what I love. That's what I like. And all these people are here. And then you look at them and say, wow. The okey-doke is really taking place. They're here literally stealing our money, shopping all day with our money, while our vets and homeless and American citizens are struggling. Nah, man, no, no, we can't have that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I can't wait for it is when they get to the point, because, okay, maybe not all of those protesters were paid, but I bet the leaders of those protesters, they were in charge of going online, getting these people into the Facebook group, Facebook group and then directing them. And I'm waiting for them to finally find out where they're going to do the same thing that that that money, which I know is part of one of those things that they're covering up. They're saying we're sending money over here for crabs. on a treadmill, but once it gets to that location, they just take the money and throw it somewhere else.
SPEAKER 17 :
Did you hear what he said? He said the Democrats are so ruthless because they don't care about America. They don't like America. Their whole thing is a con game. And they're funded. The Republican side, if we had funding, like if I had the funding that I really need to really get the word out and to do this like several times a day and all the other things that I do in reference to getting there, because I got an email from someone that was like, hey, man, you've been right on point. everything you saying is like 100 like how do you know this and some people have different superpowers you know I seen this from in 2016 I said I'll hold up man are y'all really that freaking blind are you really that you know put put away mentally are you mentally disturbed to that level that you cannot see you know it's third eye
SPEAKER 07 :
It was another radio station. They went down there and they started just asking simple questions down there in the crowd. And they asked this one lady, so you believe in open borders, so do you lock your doors? And I don't know if she was lying or not, but she says, no, I don't lock my doors. But it's like, you know, maybe she was giving a stupid question, stupid answer. But if you talk to some of those people, some of those people, I'm just down here because I support my friend who happens to be illegal, whatever. When I talk about your friend, we're talking about actual criminals.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm not, though, Johnny. I'm not talking about actual criminals. I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about I am sick and tired of being the crap underneath somebody's shoe in reference to my race. Because I've been carrying myself the right way it's supposed to be. I've never... Never said, oh, I'm 100% perfect because nobody is. Those with who, ye who's without sin cast the first stone. That's not the point. My point is the same energy level. So what applies to me has to apply to you. And if it doesn't work that way, then I got to sit back and see why don't it. And there's a whole bunch of factors into that. But the main reason is that the power and the corruptness from the liberals and Democrats They let all these people here because they wanted to secure the votes. They didn't care about you or me. I mean, is there some type of slush fund for me? You know, I don't have my car vandalized four times and others stolen. You know what I'm saying? Now I just have the other car I just bought. You know, somebody came and tried to break into that. You know, all the money I've spent on Trump, all the money I've spent on the radio, all the stuff that I'm doing, my time, talent, connections, where's the slush fund for me? Who's gonna pay for that? So, you know, no, I don't give a damn, honestly. I'm telling you, I need the fair, you know, we got Crawford Broadcasting putting in, we got, you know, Mike Nim, Luke, everybody's on the team, you know, making this happen. And we have to keep delivering the message. And I know you see there's so many black people now that's coming out. You know, Chicago, you know, other people in California. And is it what it is here, too? It's like it's all this time, but we still have to be pushing. We can't we can't underestimate. And that's just the part where the Republican Party, we got to get funding. We got to get funding because you got to be prepared. We got to be, you know, proactive. We gotta be proactive because it's not over. Already they're trying to, we know it's coming. Impeach Trump. Like you said about Elon Musk. Man, I could care less. I'm not gonna be responsible. Luke, do you wanna be responsible for me? Not at all, right? You're like, oh, good guy.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've heard what you've been getting up to. I don't want to be responsible.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. So, I mean, like, at some point, you have to be responsible for yourself. So whoever this dude is, whatever he's saying, maybe he's having a bad day. Maybe he is a racist. I don't know. I don't even care. Because there's one party that doesn't have anything to say and shouldn't have nothing to say, and that's the Democratic Party. From 100 years ago all the way to today, It's been savage. But they're going crazy now because Trump is putting that serious pressure. But how can you be against anybody that is for you and for your country? And already people are like, man, the streets feel better. I have a different feel, a different energy. And we're just beginning. I just hope Trump doesn't slack off because I know it's chess. Trump is saying the most violent and all this now. He's just putting that out in the – in the air but really he's telling people behind the scenes we getting all these motherfuckers we getting them all and that's exactly what needs to take place lateral damage you know it's like if you're there if the person is hanging out in your house and you happen to be there let me check your ID too
SPEAKER 07 :
And you're legal here, too. Yeah. And do you see what happened when they went down there and then somebody informed them? And this girl with her loudspeaker letting people know, I think they should have arrested her for obstruction.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, they need to. You got lawyers and people that's saying stuff and that's, you know, do this if they come to you. Don't open your door on this. I mean, like, nah, man. You know, I want Trump even more. See, me, why these protests? Like, let another protest happen and just send like a thousand people. people down there to grab them all. And we'll sort it out later. We're going to grab you all down here because I see all these, you're tearing up the city, you're dirtying it up, you're burning the American flag, you're here illegally, you're obstructing justice, you're hiding illegals. There's so many crimes that's taking place in that mob. Take them all. Sort it out later. And that's how you have to do on the street side of the justice side. Now, when you go to USAID, all those things that Elon Musk is uncovering, it's incredible. You have a nonprofit. I had a nonprofit feeding $36,000 a year out of my own pocket. Out of my own pocket. Let me make it clear. I don't need anyone. to do what I do. I invest in myself. I have my own money. I have my own accomplishments. I have my own direction and my own smarts and my own vision. People come to me. They want to be a part of what I do. And that right there is the key. You let some in, some you don't. But the bottom line is none of these people are on my level. That's the bottom line. And I'm just telling you. Fab is off the chain. I love this dude. I love this dude. And so that's the people I surround myself with is those type of people that are actually have done something and doing something and everybody play their role. But we all agree. You too, Johnny. You've said, hey, we got to keep getting the word out. We can't relax. We have to push harder. We have to push harder, yo, so we can get Trump safe. and make these changes. But we're getting ready to go to break. This is 560 KLZ. I'm your nighter, nighter, nighter.
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SPEAKER 17 :
we listen to 560 kls i'm united of course we are on it like we always are hey luke uh but i we gotta play this other clip but i'm gonna introduce this okay so johnny check this out another uh file that was sent to me and this is a black guy and he is was a lifetime democrat you know he's not an old guy he's not a young guy he's like middle-aged and he is just so hurt But he's so strong. He is. He has came over to our side because the when you put when you turn on the lights, the roaches will scatter. Anybody know men in the hood, they know what I'm talking about. The light is shining on the Democratic Party and they're going crazy. They're running and doing everything. But listen to this guy. He's outside. So we're going to hopefully the audio is pretty good. He's outside. Listen to what he has to say.
SPEAKER 16 :
The Democratic Party have lied to us about everything. They've lied about being the party of the middle class. They've lied about being the party of peace. They've lied about being the party that wants to help poor people. What the last several weeks have proven to us all is that this is a cadre of criminals and losers and spoiled children of affluent parents who were more concerned about looking good than actually doing good. These are people who were more concerned about looking like they were doing something for the American people than actually doing things for the American people. And that's why I'm so angry. Because this party lied to me while stealing my tax dollars. The Democratic Party lied to us all while they brought in millions of illegal immigrants for their own political purposes for the last four years. 20 to 30 million illegal aliens brought in And now we come to USAID being probably the largest money laundering operation in American history. Congratulations, Dems. You've outdone even Bernie Madoff. Disgusted beyond words. Disgusted with the waste of money. Disgusted with the fraud. with the way that you people put, the way that you people use color legitimacy and the way you use black people as mules to get us to push whatever agenda you wanted to. The amount of division you use black people to sow upon the American people, you use us for that. And I will never ever forgive this political party that I've gone through personally Y'all were supposed to be the party of free speech, the party of women's rights. You have immolated all of those things. And then, as if enough weren't enough, you then decide that you're going to die on the hill of USAID, a government audit. You're trying to prevent a government audit because some of you really are trying to stay out of prison. We see the game now. Y'all been out here telling us that the game was rigged against certain people. Well now we found out who the people that were rigging the game were. Congratulations. Y'all are never going to win another political race ever again. Not if I can help it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Woo, Black Lives Matter, baby. This is how we waking up. And it feels good to be one of the people involved with this on several levels to get the word out. It's a lot of sacrifice, a lot of suffering, but it's... It's mandatory. We have to do it. But Republicans understand what's coming here. They filed impeachment, and they're calling people, telling them what to say, what not to do. They're obstructing justice in all kind of ways. They want violence. See, what they have to do now is create violence. And so I want Trump to be ready. And I'm sure he is, because I just couldn't imagine it anyway. But when they start doing the violence in these parades and all that stuff, turn up the notch even higher. Because some people don't get it. You can't talk to some people. Some people you got to smack in the face. That's the bottom line. Because when they smack you, you're going to have to smack back and harder. So they can be like, oh, F around and find out. You know, that's the mentality the Republicans need to have all the way through these four years and the next and everything. We got to make sure Trump is good. I think it was very good when he came and was talking about Gaza. You know, look at that. Look at the strip. It's like the year 2000, you know, 900 B.C., some bull crap. And he's saying he's going to come in there and rebuild it. Great. And he said, I'm going to get jobs and housing and all this, and we're going to make this. How could you be against that? He said the Palestinians, they can stay, they can move away or go out, but when they were done, they can come back. However, how can you hate a guy that talks like that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Some of those backward people, they're not going to take those shots because they're so backwards and they're so, I don't know, ignorant. that they won't probably have a lot of jobs because Israel, they gave them jobs, and what they were doing was mapping out where these people were, where those people were, and then they made their attack. So I don't know how many of those people are going to be working in these places because their mindset is kill Israel people.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. So, hey, man, I'm done with the propaganda. It's like, I'm serious. It's tore down. Do what you say you're going to do. Trump, go ahead and do what you do. Deal with Kennedy. Trump is the father of the United States, and he's the leader of the world. That's just what it is. When this man talks, everybody listens. He's better than EF Hutton. So I'm telling you, whatever way he wants to do it, and anybody that's against that, that has anything negative to say about this man, I'm just going to tell him, like, you know, F around and find out. Because the bottom line is, this dude is really our only hope. He's our only hope. The corruption is so deep. The evil... The whole attitude of this party is they think they're untouchable, and they operate because they got billionaires pumping money into their agenda. When USAID, you see $21 million for Sesame Street, 60 million condoms, a transgender party here, a parade, surgery for such and such. All this stuff is pushing their gay... agenda that's all this is and they keep their power and of course they're gonna run they're running because they are hopefully gonna go to jail that this part i just what i don't get and another thing we need to do like i'm still doing and i've just created another just great video is we have to keep that buying thing along see y'all don't know but he just got a a contract in the entertainment industry and from one of the agencies that I have a, he's technically not my agent, but he knows me and he knows the people I work with and he sign on and I send him some stuff and we talk, we email from CAA. I'm telling you right now, he's over there and he's living the life. He just stole 27, 21 million, whatever the number is, I don't care. He had all those fake shell companies, and he did a preemptive pardon for 14 years, because they're criminals. Now, what do we need to do if we can't prosecute him because of the pardon, We should be able to do something statewide. We should be able to come after these people. And at the very least, Elon, somebody put up a budget. Put up a budget of $10 million to just smear this dude's name everywhere we can. Keep it in the front. Keep it in the forelight. Because that's what needs to happen. If we can't put him in jail because of quote-unquote politics, same way. We can't just sit back and just, oh, glance over like it's nothing. Even on Fox, you know, which is the best... news outlet that we have in reference to the actual media. But every day, you should be attacking that issue right there. USAID is just something that's with it. But we need to be attacking what Biden, Hunter, and his family has done. And it needs to be in the forefront. It needs to be on everybody's mind. Because believe me, there's a lot of people that don't know. because the media is being controlled that's why social media is so important that's why you have to understand that you have to put it out there what do they do they'll block it they'll take it down they'll do that i don't know what's going to happen with tick tock but you know i've been saying johnny for the longest i don't care about tick tock i got so many accounts on instagram tick tock and all that they're all shell accounts so i can get the word out get the word out to the the public that's the whole thing you're not, you're not going to make any money. You're not going to be, I don't been in that position. I don't been in a position of, you know, the limelight and all that other kind of stuff. And I have very good record, very good relationships with people in those industries. And I'm telling you, the only way it's going to happen is that we need to be investing on the media side to getting the word out and keeping that pressure on the the on obama on hillary on like like the the gentleman that was talking about the mafia he's straight on point that it should be the bible and then it should be what this dude interview because he explains it all if you can't get it after that you i don't i ain't got no hope for you and i'm going on to the nepotism nepotism in this it sounds like it's just what it used to be back in a good old in the in the old days where uh this cousin hired this cousin that cousin hired a cousin
SPEAKER 07 :
And the Democrats are still doing that thing. Same thing. History's repeating itself.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I can tell you, and I'm not, you know, I keep it real. If I'm in a position and I control a budget, I'm going to find the person that I want that has the skills to blah, blah, blah, blah. But the first place I'm going to look is to my friend. I'm going to say, hey, Luke, what's up, man? What you doing? I'm going to talk to the people I know that got the skills and keep it real. That's not a yes, man. They do their job. and they're intellectual and they have great opinions and logic and they have the ability, the skill to do what's happening, what you need. I'm not gonna hire Luke to be an airplane pilot and then me get on it. Are you serious? I don't care if he's my brother married to my sister. I don't care what it is. He's not going to have that position. And so I believe everybody should be, everything should be merit-based, you know, number one. Then you go to the personality. You got to go to the personality and work after that. But the merits have to come first. I don't even see where race or gender even plays a part on that list would be almost at the bottom. Like, who cares about that? What we care about is you have all these planes in the air, And you know how I hate to fly, Luke. So, you know, that's the worst nightmare. I think about that and I'm just like, wow, that plane in Philadelphia, it looked like a missile. And just being having the horror that took place on that plane. Nah, man. And then now it's like these other planes are colliding and crashing and stuff is happening right now. I think something in Alaska just happened. I'm not for sure. I just got a bling. But I'm telling you, big dog, America is on its way back, but we have to be prepared. Knowledge is power. And those who control how information and power is distributed, that's a superpower. So we're going to break. We'll be back. 560 KLZ. I'm a uniter.
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560 KLZ, I mean, it's Reggie Rocco, Lukey Luke, and we have Johnny on the line. Johnny, I think you wanted to say something about the Diddy Kanye situation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I heard that Kanye West is asking Trump to, I don't know, intervene in some way. And I don't know what's up with that. I know, you know, They were into a lot of interesting things, and then he made that sort of like that Jesus album, and I don't know what happened to that. Maybe, you know, anything to get the music out there. But I don't know if Trump should even go that direction until maybe there's a conviction or something like that. But I guess they're keeping him in a very insanitary type of place, which they keep the— The J6 in the same kind of area of abuse in the jail.
SPEAKER 17 :
So are you hinting to me that Kanye West is trying to ask Trump to help get Diddy out of jail?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Can I say the... I can't say that unless I, heck no. Listen to me, man. Heck no. Kanye West is an idiot, yo. He's crazy. That dude is off his rocker. You have to be to marry Kim Kardashian and have kids. That tells me all I need to know about that, where your mentality is and what you do. That dude's off his rocker, dude. Even though he's a conservative, You can't never trust, that's somebody you don't want in your circle around because you never know which way he's going to go, what he's going to do. He's somebody that I look, I don't have any personal information or even business relationship with him or meeting him or anything because one, I never wanted to. But I'm just telling you, yeah, that dude is off his rocker. And Diddy, no, Diddy needs to fry more. Excuse me, did he need some fries? I know, hit the button. What he's done is horrific. I've been telling you about all the stuff he been into way before it was even come to light in any kind of way, years and years and years ago. He's finally caught up. It's caught up to him and he's where he needs to be. Now, will he stay there? I don't know. I don't know if he has political power on the Democrat side. I don't know what that whole situation is. I know he has a lot of information on a lot of people and stars and stuff. So who knows? He might die of pneumonia or be found in the jail saying he hung himself. Who knows? Or some other powerful people are going to be running and they're going to get busted. I don't know how that's going to turn out. But there's one thing Trump needs to not ever do is go down that path. Ever. Don't even entertain that situation. There's so many other people that are deserving that we have to do and get out of jail and help. I'm going to tell you guys a little quick story. So I've been really, really busy. Right. And I just came from a meeting and then I was going to an IHOP and out there freezing cold. There was this this this white guy, middle aged, and he had a ukulele in his hand and he was strumming the ukulele and he wasn't. It was the same chord, just boom, boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, he come when people walk by, he's like, can you spare a dollar or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. So me being a musician, producer, writer, publisher, I said, OK, look, this is an American out here. He's got this thing. Who knows? Maybe at one time he was like something you never know. So I said, OK, I'm going to give him. you know, a donation, but I didn't want them to know that it was me. So I went in and I had the lady come out, one of the waitresses, and instead of giving him the money, she ordered a meal. And I said, she bring me change back. I'm like, what is this? Oh, I thought you wanted to, you know, the homeless guy that's out there. I said, yeah. I said, you know, sometimes people don't need food. They need money. They need money. You should be giving them food. I said, take that order. Give me my money back. So the Hispanic. manager was trying to tell the waitress that she couldn't refund my money. And I said, Oh yeah, you can. I have several companies, several people. I know what the hell's up. So I say, Hey, refund this money right now. You ain't even made the meal yet. Refund me my money. Give me this money. And then you go take it out. As a matter of fact, when they were funding, I said, I'll go out there. So I go out there to hand this guy just 20 bucks and And he said, oh my God, thank you. And I said, are you hungry? He said, yes. His eyes lit up, man. I'm like, wow, it's really me in touch. I said, hey, let's go. So I walk him through. They wouldn't let him in. I walk him through, have him come sit at my table. Everybody's looking at him, a bunch of Hispanics, there's other white people in there, other black people, just a culture. And everybody has seen this guy, like 60 people done seen this guy, because they're all in the restaurant, and they had to pass him going and coming, because he's right at the front door sitting down. on the concrete in the cold. So I had him come in, sit across from me. He got the 20 and I ordered his food. So after he got his food, he was like, I'm gonna go to the restroom. I said, yeah, go to the restroom. So go in the restroom so he can do his thing. He can clean up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he was kind of handicapped, you know, not with like where he needed the cane. But, you know, you could just tell life has been really hard. So he sits across from me. I have my computer set up at my phone set up and I'm working and I'm drinking coffee while he's eating the meal. i looked up different people were looking at me i'm not paying them no attention all that he ate his food so quick and then he said he said thank you i i gotta go find my girlfriend and i know what that is because he he got a little money in his pocket so he wants to go take care of her to make sure she's okay wherever she's at so i said you you're great i said have a um he said thank you so god bless us this is in the name of my mother jackie carr I said, this is not me. You have to thank me. This is her. This is how she raised me. This is her spirit. This is what's up. So he gets up. He goes, man, I'm working. When it's time for me, I say, check. Kazza just called and Rapstar. He just called. And I said, OK, let me get off the phone. The lady said, oh, I'm sorry. I'm going to tell you that somebody paid for your meal and the whole thing. I said, what? What? I'm sitting here, G'd up, dressed up nice, all this kind of stuff. And I'm taking care of this guy. And then somebody sees this stuff and somebody went behind my back and paid for the whole tab. See, that's what that's God right there. That's God right there. That's not just paying it forward. But that's how we have to do. Even if you're a multimillionaire or you don't have nothing, you have to still do. give you still have to give you still have to help and I was like wow and the waitress well so I gave her a tip and they were just the the staff and everybody was just talking just like man I excited that whole restaurant and I made I improved the point without even proving a point Because you got a black man sitting with a white dude that was sitting in front of the restaurant that you guys wanted to get away, wouldn't let him in to use the bathroom, let him do nothing. And everybody went coming and going. But he had to take somebody to take the first step. And then when you show that type of love, ethics, morals, and courage, it's going to come back to you in some form or fashion. Yeah. That was just a great situation. I'm just like, wow, they just did it and left. So I just wanted to let you guys know the world I live in. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because I'm just thinking, like, I mean, you know, the people that, you know, messed up and caused managers to do that. But then you can't say everybody's like that. And so this is proof that, you know, this is a person. You're tucking my face by you. And he wasn't like the ones that messed it up for everybody else.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. And you know what? And guess what, Johnny? As you know, man, we are out of time. It goes so quick. So we're going to count it down. You know how we count it down, man. And we got some special stuff going on next week as well. But let's go, man. Let's count it down. Three, two, one. We out.
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Yeah. All right, y'all. It's that time. We out of here. But you've been listening to KLC 560 AM. I'm a Unite to Reggie Rocko. Yeah, it's fun. We will tackle the issues. We will unite the country every week, every Friday morning from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. It's about love, y'all. Have a wonderful morning and a great day.
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Tune in to hear Mike and Mark tackle some of the most contentious issues in politics today. From the controversial USAID expenditures linked to Trump’s impeachment to the fiery debates surrounding government slush funds, the duo offers insights on accountability and how it challenges established power dynamics. The dialogue transitions seamlessly into the cultural impacts witnessed during the Super Bowl, revealing the layers of political influence even in beloved American pastimes.
SPEAKER 03 :
mike gallagher every day mike visits with mark davis morning host on 6 60 a.m the answer in dallas here's today's eminem experience all right well let's let's dive in to i i want you to your your when you get your little voice box out that i gave you as a gift a few years ago and you play bubba and you and but but this isn't a bubba thing this is a different kind of a play when someone when someone calls you No, I want you to be a progressive. I want you to seriously be a leftist. And I want you to tell me why you object to the Trump administration discovering wasteful spending. What is it exactly that you're enraged about? What precisely is it that you're mad about? What is it that they're flipping out about, Mark? Look, you mentioned the policy things about birthright citizenship. I get that. Look, we can have a fight about that. I get the policy issues of even the payout, the buyout for the CIA and the justice. OK, let's let's have that. Let's have that. But how can we be arguing about uncovering billions and billions of dollars of fraud, of money that they've taken from us to do, you know, transgender operas in Paraguay? Why in the world is the left angry about what we've found with USAID and the federal government's slush fund can you give me all right it's pressure on the fly go to the phones mike and ask for uh and ask for uh biff from manhattan biff from manhattan from the upper west side of course he's got to be on the upper west side go biff you're on upper west side manhattan you're on with mike and mark i really love what you do every day but you know and i have to tell you
SPEAKER 05 :
what Trump is doing I mean all this USAID stuff and trying to stop it's democracy is dying Mike before our very eyes and I don't know why you're so blind to it I mean democracy is dying on the vine the guy is Hitler and why can't you see this and he hates black people and he hates women he absolutely hates women Mike can you give me one thing that Trump has done this week that's like good for women I dare you
SPEAKER 03 :
See, as a matter of fact, I can think of one that he did for women. But, Mark, that's true. That's their answer. They don't have any. What could their— It's diversion.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's all diversion. By the way, I borrowed from Jasmine Crockett there, who I just need to stop talking about. There is great wisdom in knowing whom to ignore, and she's just about on that list. And so because of, you know, not letting trans women play and it's so insane. It is the whole thing, of course, with the women.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's garbage. She's garbage. She's trash. She's a trashy, trashy woman.
SPEAKER 04 :
All the noise, all the protests. They're not talking about all the Elon's the devil. Really? Why? Why?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's real accountability. They're terrified of it. All right, but let me try. I'm trying to play devil's advocate here to understand what it is they're objecting to. Okay, they don't like a civilian with his whiz kids having access to government files. Okay, all right, well, all right. But if what they found... is is is completely unacceptable waste of our money why aren't you on board with that you notice all the complaining and they and they are howling at the moon they're screaming they're never saying that they're not talking about the merits of what elon is finding they're not saying well yeah there's a millions of they're they're not denying in other words
SPEAKER 04 :
He's unelected or he's the real president now or whatever. He's under the direction of the president. No, we didn't elect Elon, but we didn't elect any of the scoundrels that Biden tasked with doing various untoward things.
SPEAKER 03 :
But they have to have some ostensible reason for it, Mark. No, they don't. Do they want government waste? Yes. Is that what they do?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know the answers to this. Why do they whine about the Lake and Riley Act? Why do they whine about anything that gets tough on the borders? Because they won't. want unfettered illegal immigration so these folks can be normalized, legalized, naturalized.
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SPEAKER 03 :
And then energized for loyal Democrat votes for decades. They want these things. But now do that with wasteful government spending. They want wasteful government spending? Yes. Why?
SPEAKER 04 :
Why? A huge expansionist collectivist government means power for the Democratic Party, and money equals power. Look at all the things that you so skillfully outlined that USAID was doing. All of that is money and power and influence and jobs for people who share their worldview. A huge government is power and money, two of the biggest aphrodisiacs in the world.
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And the reason it's such a huge scandal, as reporter Michael Schellenberger has unveiled, the CIA and USAID money was behind one of the Trump impeachments, the 2019 Trump impeachment. I mean, this is a gigantic scandal of epic proportion. They were using funds to stop Trump and the funding to Politico. Mm-hmm. Oh, their big defense was, well, it wasn't really funding. It was for $75,000 subscriptions. Oh, really? So, of course, if the government is spending millions with Politico, Politico doesn't write any bad pieces about the Biden administration. This is election interference. It's horrific. And meanwhile, speaking of horrific, Super Bowl weekend. Have you ever heard of Mike Freeman at USA Today? I have not. Okay. Me either. Saw a picture of him. Nice looking black guy for USA Today. Headline, Donald Trump is going to the Super Bowl and ruining one of America's best days. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. He writes, you were supposed to put aside politics. The fact that Trump will be at the Super Bowl, he soils everything. He's doing this to the biggest game. He already had a negative impact, writes activist. And I found out he is an activist. Shocker. Columnist. He writes that Trump, there's evidence he's already had a negative impact on the game. You know what the negative impact is? The Athletic first reported that for the first time since February of 2021, the signage and racism won't be included as a message in the back of the Super Bowl end zone.
SPEAKER 04 :
We will still have it takes all of us and something else.
SPEAKER 03 :
And choose love.
SPEAKER 04 :
Choose love, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, that's awful. Yep. Oh, what a negative impact.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's have choose love. Matt Walsh the other day said, how will we know not to end? Surely everyone will now become racist again because end racism is not in the end zone anymore. I think it's great. Did you believe that's the first president to ever go to a Super Bowl? I think that's right. There's never been a sitting president who's thrilled that he's there. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey.
SPEAKER 03 :
who said, Travis, this is an honor to have him there. Well, it's a sitting U.S. president, and here's this pipsqueak columnist complaining that we're going to replace the sign and racism with choose love, and it takes all of us. Well, that's a terrible message to be told. Boy, that's a real negative impact. Choose love is negative. But these are what the race hustlers and the jazz groups.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm all in for the cheats. are America's team until the Cowboys can sniff it within something that resembles quality again. The Chiefs are America's team. I love Andy Reid. I love Patrick Mahomes. I love it. Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs. Three-peat.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you know why I'm with the Chiefs? I think they're MAGA. I really do. I think Mahomes is definitely his wife.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let's have Harrison Butker, totally MAGA, kick a game-winning field goal, which I think is going to be a good game. I think it's going to be close, and it might come down to a Harrison Butker field goal, and that would be awesome.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't think the Eagles are MAGA. I don't know. No, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no. They are about booing Santa Claus and throwing snowballs at people with batteries inside of them. No, yeah, I'm all Chiefs, too. Let's go, Chiefs. We'll see you Monday. We'll find out. I love you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Have a great weekend. Mike is ready. He is ready to roll for you at 10 o'clock as soon as we're done on 660 AM.
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